On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 11:39:28AM -0800, Marc Perkel said:
> 
> You are assuming that is the cause of the problem - that EFF doesn't 
> verify. I rather doubt it is because the form to subscribe requires name 
> and address information and will not add if the zip code doesn't match 
> the city and state. The - upon subscribing the system immediately send 
> out and email with information about how to change your account with a 
> password so that a user can immediately unsubscribe. So - although it 
> can be done - it's not easy to do.

That's not opt-in, that's opt-out.  So the EFF newsletter is spam, by
definition, if somebody else subscribes you.  There's your problem.  It
needn't even be malicious; a simple typographic error results in
somebody getting unsolicited mail.  They'd be foolish to use the opt-out
link, because many spammers use those for harvesting addresses.  So,
they report it as spam, because it is.

> But - getting to the point - we don't know why EFF was listed. I would 
> like to fix this. I therefore request information as to how this 
> occurred so that if it's my fault I can fix the problem. Who do I go to 
> to get assistence to determine what happened?

Fix your opt-in problem first and you'll find anti-spam folks more
likely to help you.  Now that I know the EFF spams, I'm setting my
distributed.net "send my winnings to" setting to SPI instead.  I'll keep
it in mind when my next bonus check comes in and I'm considering who
gets a donation this year, too.


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