On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Marc Perkel wrote: > Thanks. I don't know if it's the government or just someone making a > mistake. On scenereo is someone comes home from vacation and finds 1500 > emails waiting of which 90% is spam. As they delete and flag it as spam > the accidently hit the EFF newsletter in the middle of a group of 100 > other messages.
I would never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Throwing around the term "Censorship" is also questionable; if my company's management decides to block the EFF's mail and website, it's not censorship. Now, if Dick Cheney is in a secure, undisclosed location, reporting the EFF newsletters and quietly chuckling to himself, that's censorship. > My purpose - trying to depersonalize this - is to address the idea that > there may be a better solution or improvments that can be made to > prevent or at least greatly reduce the ability for this to occur. Agreed. Certainly if Razor continues to mature (which I expect it will) it will need to find a way to better cross-check. The suggestion a number of people have made already, using Razor score as only a part of the spamtrap system, is a good one but it is out of your control. Here is what you, Mark, can do, though: Tell the people receiving the EFF newsletter what happened and encourage them, if they are using Razor or Spamnet, to revoke the messages. > > I admit that EFF's verification system for new users is less than ideal > in that someone could subscribe someone else without their approval. What? For heaven's sake, fix this. It is broken and unacceptable, especially in today's world. It may have even been what caused this problem to start with. > I > would also point out that those who can block EFFs newsletter, or any > other newsletter, are totally annonymous and unaccountable. If we are > going to hold those who own lists to some high standard, should we not > also hold those who report spam to a high standard also? Should we? Any intelligent razor installation will either use cross-checking or manual review to verify what gets caught. People who see too many false positives will either stop using the system or whitelist the EFF. Now people who set up unintelligent systems may not receive your mail - but the same could be said of people who don't know how to set up sendmail or MS Exchange properly. The interesting part is that it's *their* network and what happens on it is *their* problem, not yours. -- sc ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
