Alan Lavine, I hadn 't been eating carbs, at least not very often, since I read Grant's book.
I am a bit over 5 11, and lost some weight when I first ditched the carbs, but was still running at about 180. Not awful, but fatter than I probably should be. I only learned about the fasting thing in January. Now I'm down to 167. If you already don't eat carbs, it is no big deal to move to fasting. The only obstacles are mental. Up until two months ago, I thought that being hungry was a physiological need. That is, I thought that if I didn't eat for a day, I'd keel over or something. But that doesn't happen. Hunger is psychological. If you just wait a few minutes or do something else, your hunger will go away. Besides the notable weight-loss, there are other health benefits which I believe to exist, but which I am not sophisticated enough to type about intelligently There's a 1-hour program on Amazon Prime called "The Science of Fasting" that discusses them. The key term is autophagy. It appears that fasting might fight cancer. Jason Fung, the author of the book I referenced above is a kidney doctor in Toronto, who is using fasting to cure type-2 diabetes. It's funny - fasting is the opposite of much I'd ever heard about dieting - for example, eat 5 or 6 small meals a day. Ever heard that one? I think fasting is unpopular because there is no one to lobby for it. The food industry would oppose it. So would the pharmaceutical industry. Even most doctors wouldn't recommend it - imagine the advice, "Don't come and see me, don't take any drugs. Just stop eating for a day or two every week. You'll feel better." That's not a money maker for anybody. I'd say fasting may be a good thing once or twice a week, even if you have no weight to lose. It's just good to rest your disgestive system and other systems will kick in. Also, never eating carbs is kind of a bummer. But if you're a faster, on your feast days, have some cake and ice cream! Also, fasting does lead to mental clarity - "hungry like the wolf." Re the cholesterol, I'm not even sure if high cholesterol, even the LDL kind, is even a health problem. This is yet another contentious health issue. But I'm sure fasting can't hurt. I think in the Jason Fung book references this issue. Final point: If you mention fasting in public, it is highly polarizing. You might as well say you voted for Trump. So I'd say keep it to yourself if you try it. On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 7:22:07 AM UTC-5, alan lavine wrote: > > Hello All, > Interesting thread! I've been convinced about the benefits of low carbs > for awhile now, even though compliance is spotty. > I'm very interested in the fasting aspect, and am reading the book > mentioned in another post about it. I would love to hear more about > fasting from real people doing it: how often, what regimen, how to fit it > into social and family meals, etc. > > I'm not diabetic or overweight. My personal interest is to lower my > elevated LDL cholesterol. I'm currently on 2 meds (not statins-can't > tolerate) and really not having any side effects from them, but would love > to eliminate them if possible. > > Thanks, > Alan NYC-trying to skip breakfast today > > On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 10:52:17 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: >> >> Hi everybody on both sides of the fence and sitting on it, too-- >> I wrote the book but am not trying to push it here. I wrote it because I >> don't LIKE to talk about diet stuff, so it was sort of my one-shot. I'm >> piping up here (violating "one shot"), but it won't be my usual long post. >> To keep it short means being direct, which doesn't always come off well, >> but I'll try for "short and soft," which doesn't sound all that good, >> either. >> >> EBDJ synthesizes a lot of stuff in a few short, to-the-point chapters. >> >> The introduction is long, and in it I tell my own history with >> diet/exercise--which is bound to be different than yours in some ways, but >> if you're a typical somewhat ageing cyclist who is adding pounds over the >> years despite riding a fair among, you'll be able to relate. >> >> The average "chapter" is about 300 words, and most adults read close to >> that per minute. If you aren't up to the whole book, read at least these >> five numbered entries,which total fewer than 1,700 words and will take you >> about 8 minutes if you dwell some: >> >> 83: It's about the architecture of digestive systems in the animal world >> (excludes the internationally known Venus fly trap!) >> 84: Specifically about human guts >> 85: What your guts are good and bad at. >> 91: Diabetes primer. How Type 2 diabetes creeps up on you. This may help >> your family accept a shift in diet. >> 92: kind of the ABC's of blood sugar testing...a good way to keep an eye >> on diabetes as it creeps up on you >> >> Whether it's "paleo" or "keto" or "primal" or whatever, the shift is away >> from foods that jack up your blood sugar and make you fatter, >> diabetes-prone, and hungry all at the same time. The mainstream media, in >> addressing this while at the same time trying not to bum out its audience, >> tends to take a softer-core stance on carbs than I do (surprise!): Where >> they say, "try to cut back on refined carbohydrates and overly processed >> junk foods and sugary sodas," I have chapters titled, "All corn is candy >> corn," and "The Fruit Ruse," and "The Whole Grain Ruse." >> >> Those titles alone will turn off many, but the message in them all is the >> same. It is to see past a food's commercial image, and see it in terms of >> its sugar load. >> >> At Rivendell, every birthday gets celebrated with the person's choice of >> restaurants, and we take out for all. The most popular one is Indian. I eat >> the red chicken, I pluck the cauliflower out of the (sp?) alu gobi, and I >> slurry it around in some of the thick lentil mush, which I love. I don't >> eat the nan. Others eat it all, some avoid the chicken. It's not as easy >> when the cook is unaware of your sugarphobia, but if you aren't already >> diabetic, or "pre-diabetic," a slice of cake won't kill you. Two might, but >> not one. Not right there at the table, at least. Ha! >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
