Hi Charles,
You seem to forget the Apple Intel announcement came at a very bad
time for RS, since they had to put all their resources in their total
rewrite of the IDE. It's only now the new IDE (2005/2006) starts to
be usable and there's still a lot of work on it as this thread has
demonstrated. So you could cut the RS employees some slack as far as
Intel compatibility is concerned, even if this doesn't make (y)our
bread...
The new IDE is a far better concept than the previous one as far as
I'm concerned, and I'm eager to see it further debugged, optimized,
and support universal binaries. In fact I can't wait to buy it, only
it isn't totally ready yet. Bad timing again.
I watched RB from the time it was called CrossBasic. I initially
bought 5.0 and then 5.5 as soon as it came out to show my support.
This isn't a good idea however. For the future I've decided to only
spend the money when I'm satisfied with the release. That's the best
and most objective feedback I can give to RS. My money is ready for
RB2006, but RB2006 isn't ready for my money yet.
Marc
PS: I whish this thread went away from the NUG and I hadn't contributed to it.
Let's pretend RB only has sold 10,000 copies. Would you let the 20
or 50 complainers set your entire focus?
To some degree it depends who they are... If they are long time users
who were previosuly satisfied, I would listen.
I bought in to RB 3.0 in 2001. During 2003, I actually received a
note from RS CEO indicating that perhaps the product was NOT for
just any computer user!
Many long-time users asked why features that made the product what
it is had been removed in 2005. The attitude was RS knew what was
good for us, eat the dog food and like it.
A few have said they continue using v5.5, though they've spent the
money to upgrade and support RS for 2005, hoping it will get
better.
I'm in this camp. I do not use RB2005 or RB2006, and keep hoping
what i build with RB5.5 doesn't break. I'm out of business until I
can deliver a Univeral Binary build of my work, anyway. I recently
received a nice note from a person in Canada stating my work with
Corona was potentially a Quicken killer. Unfortunately, because I
have to wait for REAL Software to deliver capability, I can't
deliver my "killer app" natively to the Mac platform.
The Apple/Intel announcement was made almost one year ago. Apple
told all developers to get on the schtick and learn how to compile
for it. Apple Developer provides them with what they need all
along. Apple releases the first Intel Macs six months early, within
thirty days, there's 700 applications that are Universal Binary,
none of them REAL Software.
We upgrade our licenses every year, some pay for additional support,
with the trust that REAL Software is keeping pace with
developments.
This company has removed good features from their product, told us
what they believe is good for us, and has only made indirect
announcements about continued support of the Mac platform, where it
all started. Now they're really late to the gate.
These guys have had as much time to deliver Universal Binary
capability as any other developer house. I would have expected a
beta by now when so many others have released final products that
are UB. RB, and anything built with it, are second-class citizens
on the Mac platform. People will be looking at Universal Binary
apps first, even if they're running PPC, because those are the apps
that will run native on the new Apple they buy a year from now.
We can't deliver current native builds for new Apples until RS
delivers it to us first. While 700 apps for the Mac OS are
Universal Binary, we are waiting months longer while these other
companies make sales.
The people you see at REAL World may not be the average guy who is
just trying to use the product itself. I'm amazed how many on this
news list use plug-ins, declares, and whatever else to make up for
deficiencies in the basic RS product.
Frankly, I expect a demo of a Universal Binary version of this
software at this REAL World. If that doesn't happen, this company
has proven to me they are not keeping pace. I'm not interested in
seeing a bunch of clowns show off the toys they built with
REALbasic. If that's what REAL World is all about, that's REAL
stupid.
Expecting a developer to keep pace and look ahead for us is not a
disservice. This is what we are paying for, and why we invested in
this type of product to begin with.
Yours truly
R Charles Flickinger
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