BTW. If he has any pride left he had better keep it in a little jar in his closet. Because going out there and sucking 4 times a day is not a self-esteem builder.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]>wrote: > Except that he'd have to be: > > a. really hurt > b. willing to play along with the ruse > > I can't imagine a guy with his pride being willing to take a DL stint if he > weren't really hurt. > > -- Matt > > --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Trade Papi > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 10:06 AM > > > I'm sure that a nice stint on the disabled list will also serve the purpose > of freeing up Papi's spot. > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley > <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> Is Ortiz a 10/5 guy? That would make any trade talk moot. They're >> pretty stuck with him until he snaps out of it or they release him. >> >> -- Matt >> >> --- On *Tue, 6/2/09, Tom Salemi >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Tom Salemi >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: Re: Trade Papi >> To: >> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 9:45 AM >> >> >> And spare me the chatter about Arroyo's hometown discount. I think he's >> been overpaid. >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Tom Salemi >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >>> Interesting fact about newly signed free agents. Can't trade them until >>> June 15, according to the CBA. (at least that's what i think i heard the >>> other day.) >>> >>> Penny would be traded before Smoltz. THey're not trading smoltz. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Steve Ouellette >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not giving up either. He's been too good for too long to completely >>>> lose it overnight. I think. >>>> >>>> Though he is looking painfully like Tony Clark that one year ... without >>>> the good defense. >>>> >>>> Steve O >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Lobosco, Angelo < >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think it’s too early to completely throw in the towel on Ortiz. >>>>> How about bringing Ron Jackson back, just to work with Ortiz? Send the >>>>> two >>>>> of them off somewhere for a few weeks and see what happens... >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* >>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>[mailto: >>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>] >>>>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Ouellette >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:23 AM >>>>> *To:* >>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: Trade Papi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ray, get back to the realm of possibility. There is a zero percent >>>>> chance that Smoltz will be traded before he gets to the majors and shows >>>>> he >>>>> can still pitch. And if he's successful, there's a zero percent chance >>>>> he's >>>>> used as a sweetener to take Papi off our hands. >>>>> >>>>> If Papi can't shake this, there's a chance that the Sox will eat his >>>>> contract, but they're not going to pay another team for the privilege. >>>>> >>>>> Steve O >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> I wouldn't put too much weight behind "class" as a trade demotivator. >>>>> >>>>> Remember Arroyo's hometown discount and subsequent trade. Now THAT >>>>> was classless. >>>>> >>>>> As for Smoltz, who cares if he wanted to be a trade chit. As they >>>>> told Crash Davis, "You get to come to the ballpark each day and get paid >>>>> for >>>>> doing it." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> There's no way they're going to up and trade Smoltz before he throws a >>>>> pitch for them, coming off of shoulder surgery. 1) because he doesn't have >>>>> much value until he shows he can pitch and 2) it's a classless way of >>>>> handling him -- he didn't agree to come to Boston as a trade chit. >>>>> >>>>> Steve O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> If he means to retire then he should do it, and decrease the surplus >>>>> population. -- Scrooge Salemi. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Larry Rupp >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> yes but doesn't Papi have a clause to stop a trade? Anyway, if the >>>>> news has any baring Papi wants to stay put and would rather retire >>>>> then be traded. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Why do you say that? I can see him retiring because nobody wants >>>>> him, but I >>>>> > if a trade offer became available I think the org would jump on it. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Larry Rupp >>>>> > <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> More likely Papi will retire here before the org would trade him. I >>>>> see >>>>> >> the FO giving him till the All Star game before putting any real >>>>> changes >>>>> >> into place. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Sent from Larry's iPhone >>>>> >> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> And they'll be trading their >>>>> >> >>>>> worst-hitter-in-the-majors-who-can't-play-defense-and-makes-$14-million-next-year >>>>> >> to who exactly? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Steve O >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ray Salemi >>>>> >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc01g.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Now that Smolz is coming back it's time to package him up with Papi >>>>> and >>>>> >>> send them on his way. 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