I think SandPoint went out of business, which is too bad because the unit I
have controls the heat and monitors pH. But check out the Medusa Chill And
Heat Control (Item #: 524376) $199.00
Or (Item #: 524389) $165.00
at the Pet Warehouse http://www.petwarehouse.com/ I think mine cost me $175
many years ago
also check out http://www.sealifesupply.com/medusa.htm as there are 2
precision models as well
The difference between them is the cheaper one controls a heater or a
chiller, the other will control both.
Guy
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Ziggy
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Please Help!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the info guy it helped.How much was the digital controller from
sandpoint?If you don't mind me asking.I think I'll go that way also too be
double safe.I think I'm going to get the titanium nonbrealagle heaters.I
also added a ground probe yesterday dumby me.Thanks Ken.God Bless America!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Molinari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: Please Help!!!!!!!!
> Ken,
> I did not mean to say EBO was no good, just that any of them can fail.
> That is why I use a SandPoint digital controller with my heaters.
> It may be that your heater stuck on and then exploded after getting
> overheated.
> A controller would have prevented the meltdown if that is the case.
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ziggy
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Please Help!!!!!!!!
>
>
> If you don't Like ebo then what brand do you suggest???Thanks Ken.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guy Molinari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Please Help!!!!!!!!
>
>
> > EBO is not the answer, I had one stick on and cook my reef while I was
> > backpacking in the Sierra's. I lost it all, clams, corals, the
> works-except
> > a Maroon strip clown and a tiger cowrie, can't explain why they lived.
I
> > have resorted to changing my heaters every year, cheap insurance. I
write
> > the install date with a permanent marker on the cord.
> > I also use a digital controller with the heater which has a separate
temp
> > probe which I put in a different part of the tank.
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Clutter
> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:02 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Please Help!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > Had the EXACT same thing happen to me - get rid of that brand of heater!
> > Ebo is the type to get (also get ground probe in there if you don't
> already
> > have one...)
> >
> > Also make sure that the heater is secure - if it's bouncing around n the
> > sump you're asking for trouble.
> >
> > (sorry to hear about your loss - nice fish!)
> >
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Ziggy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 12:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Please Help!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > When I left this morning for work I have a habit of checking the temp
and
> > the sump water level every morning.The water level was exaxtly were I
have
> > it set for my top-off system and the temp was 79 degrees and the heater
> was
> > on.I went to work at 6 a.m. My wife called me at 9 a.m. at work and
sayed
> > something was wrong with the tank it smelled and still smells like
> > electrical burning.You should see the heater both ends were blown out
.The
> > top of the heater were the control knob is was burned to a crisp.The
metal
> > wrapping under the glass were you read the temp was burned and charred
> like
> > a metal can in a burn barrel.I think that is what what poisoned the
> > tank,lots of metal deposits from the burnt coils and metal covering????I
> > wish I had enough saltwater mixed up to do the whole tank.The goby just
> > died.Thats all my fish gone because of a faulty heater.I will post the
> brand
> > name later.I lost a beautiful sailfin Tang,watchman goby.diamondback
> sleeper
> > gobie,cleaner wrasse,flame hawkfish,purple bicolor blennie,green spotted
> > mandarin and cleaner shrimp.The only upbeat note is that my corals about
> 15
> > of them are showing signs of opening a little.I have done a 10 gallon
> water
> > change and I am waiting for 5 more gallons of ro/di water to get
> > done.Depressing.I just got done hardplumbing my tank with an iwaki 40
rlxt
> > and I was going to get my refugium going this weekend and now this.I
just
> > can't explain how bad my tank water smells now like electrical burn.The
> > heater itself smelled so bad I had to put it in a ziplock bag.I thought
> > Visa-therm was a good quality heater?Does anyone suggest a good fully
> > submersible heater? Thanks for the info and I'll keep ya informed on my
> > progress.Ken.----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: Please Help!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > > Ken,
> > >
> > > Did the temperature in your tank go up? I am wondering if the heater
> > > stuck on and overheated the water before it broke, or if it just
> > > shattered.
> > Please
> > > dont blame yourself, you had a faulty piece of equipment. We cant
> > > blame ourselves for things that are out of our control.
> > >
> > > Now, for the immediate need. Good idea on the poly filters and carbon.
> > > I would continue to run those. You can use your salt mix as soon as it
> > mixes,
> > > but I would give it 15 - 20 minutes of solid heavy mixing. If you can
> > throw
> > > extra powerheads in their to really mix it, do so.
> > >
> > > I am hesitant to say it was chemicals in the heater that caused your
> > fishes
> > > to die, but it is possible. Check your temp, please.
> > >
> > > I know this sucks, I have had similar situations. Just do what you can
> > > to fix it, and move on.
> > >
> > > Let us know temp and progress.
> > >
> > > Shane C.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ken Ziggy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:09 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Please Help!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > My Heater in my sump actually exploded and burned.It was a brand new
> > > > one
> > I
> > > > just bought.I forget the name.I'm really bummed out.All my fish
> > > > exept my watchman goby died and he isn't doing very well.I emptied
> > > > the sump and cleaned all the broken glass out and changed the water
> > > > in the sump.I put three layers of polyfilters in and activated
> > > > carbon.I only had a 5
> > gallon
> > > > bucket of fresh saltwater to do a water change on my 75 gallon
> > > > reeftank.I'm mixing as much as I can as fast as my ro/di unit can
> > > > kep up with.How long really do I have to wait before I can use the
> > > > new mix.I
> > know
> > > > they say 24 hours but this is an emergency.The bag actually says
> > > > emediately.Can I do this in this situation.My skimmer is on full
> > > > tilk also.I have lots of corals and 150 pounds of live rock I need
> > > > to save.Anyone with any suggestion's please help me.I don't know if
> > > > I
> > should
> > > > get any other chemical filter like chemi-pure or not?Dumby me I
> > > > didn't have a ground probe on the tank either.But I'm running out to
> > > > get one now.I feel like I just let my tank down.I feel bad enough
> > > > whats going on with what happened in new york and the pentegon.Now I
> > > > feel down right deppressed.If anyone can help please respond
> asap.Thanks
> > Ken.My email is
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> if you need it.
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