At 9:21 PM -0500 1/25/00, Leonard Bergson wrote
>Regarding the Yamaha 6416 CD-RW - I also have one of these. And, yes, I'm
>having troubles as well. I can see that it is revision number 1.0c. The
>question is: do I get a new CD-RW or is a real fix imminent?

Good question. I'm considering asking APS for an exchange or a 
refund. I've messed up at least 13 blanks and endless hours of time 
trying to make it work before Eric tipped me off as to what is wrong.

What finally does the job is to disconnect all SCSI devices, which is 
useless because an external SCSI hd is one of the things to be backed 
up, and all unnecessary extensions, which include AppleShare and 
FileSharing, which is also useless because another thing to be backed 
up is my PB to the burner attached to my beige G3/300 desktop.

It's also impractical to do that because it's so much trouble that 
human nature kicks in -- anything which is that big a bother will be 
neglected. Sounds like somebody's law, doesn't it ;-)

>Leonard Bergson
>225 Varick Street
>New York, NY 10014
>Tel.212 647-9000
>>  From: Matthew Tevenan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:06:18 -0800
>>  To: retro-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  Subject: Re: QUERY: CD-RW Yamaha S6416 mechanism problems??
>>  Greg,
>>  Dantz has verified that there is a bug in the firmware of the Yamaha 6416
>>  CD-RW drive. While we have notified Yamaha of this bug, until we are
>>  apprised of a solution to this problem, we can no longer officially support
>>  backup to the Yamaha 6416 CD-RW drive with Retrospect or Retrospect Express.
>>  The bug will cause the drive to intermittently return error 100 (illegal
>>  command) when used with Retrospect on slower Macintosh and PC models. We
>>  have some suggestions to try to work around this problem: use a faster
>>  backup computer if there is one available, or try to increase the data rate
>>  by disabling software compression and minimizing external activity during
>>  backup. In Windows, you can also try disabling auto-insert notification.
>>  Though Retrospect will recognize and load a driver for this device, you may
>>  see the error when backing up to this drive on your computer. The only
>>  computers I have not seen this error occur on are Power Mac G3s and G4s or
>>  very fast Pentiums, though even these fast machines are not guaranteed to
>  > work correctly with the drive.

Matthew, you're exactly right. My G3/300 beige is certainly not a 
slow machine. Last desperate attempt to make it work properly will be 
to hook the burner to my Wallstreet 300 and see if it will work that 
way. Although this is NOT the way I wanted to do it!

Have you all heard any response from Yamaha about the problem? 
Perhaps if enough of us started demanding replacements or refunds 
from the places we bought them, that would get their attention?

Jane White, a disgusted 6416 Yamaha owner

>  > Please call us directly if you have any further questions.
>>  Regards,
>>  Matthew Tevenan
>>  Technical Support Specialist
>>  Dantz Development Corporation
>>  925.253.3050
>>>  From: "Greg Jewett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  Reply-To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 06:42:06 -0800
>>>  To: "retro-talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>  Subject: QUERY: CD-RW Yamaha S6416 mechanism problems??
>>>  Can anyone let me know why Yamaha S6416 mechanism would not be recommended?
>>>  I just purchased recently a Yamaha S6416 drive for my Macintosh.  To
>>>  date, I have no problems with the drive, with the exception of a
>>>  ISO9660 burn that failed to verify, but burned just fine.
>>>  What problems has the list heard about that drive, or experienced?  I
>>>  would be very interested!  :/
>>>  ...Greg
>>>>>  Be very careful.  I have an APS drive that doesn't work well with
>>>>  Retrospect
>>>>>  at all.  Avoid Yamaha S6416 mechanisms, which APS has used in 
>>>>>the past.  Be
>  >>>> sure to check the list of qualified drive mechanisms on the 
>Dantz web site.
>>>>>  Phil Geller
>>>>>  WorkingMacs
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