cliveb;346030 Wrote: 
> Since the monitoring signal was OK, we can discount Pat's suggestion of
> cartridge mistracking. More likely is that you're getting clipping on
> the input to the M-Audio soundcard, in which case you'll need to
> attenuate the signal before it gets to the soundcard.

Yes, apart from the fact that I was listening to the music play as I
recorded it, and heard no distortion, it was not at all the kind of
distortion I would expect to hear from a cartridge mistracking or from
over-cooking the input level on peaks.  It was generally at a steady
level regardless of how quiet or loud the passage was.  It was a kind
of hiss, but not an "analogue" hiss.  It was spitty and electronic
sounding - very nasty.  Strangely it would gradually fade in and out. 
Some tracks were fine, others heavily over-laid with this sound.

> Can I ask: how are you feeding the signal to the soundcard? Are you
> using the Naim 72's tape output, or the main preamp outputs? The reason
> I ask is that I have very extensive experience of using some remarkably
> similar gear to you. In my case, it's an LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Karma, Naim
> 42.5, and M-Audio 2496. What I can say is that the tape output from the
> 42.5 is at quite a low level - there's little to no chance of it driving
> the M-Audio into clipping. In fact it's so low that I use the main
> preamp outputs, and here you do need to be careful not to overcook the
> signal levels.

The Linn nerd in me compels me to tell you that my turntable is LP12
(with Trampolinn and Cirkus updates), Lingo, Ekos and AT-OC9 cartridge
- which tracks beautifully.  The only input to the 72 is the turntable.
There is a 5 pin SNAIC to the hi-cap.

I actually took *your* very helpful advice from an earlier thread and
took the output from the hi-cap that normally would go to the power amp
and using a modified SNAIC with phono sockets into the M-Audio.  This
allows me to set the recording level using the pre-amp volume control.

I take the phono out from the 2496 back in to a tape socket on the 72
and monitor using the other tape socket into a Headline headphone amp.

> I'm not familiar with Spin-It-Again, but unless it has good metering,
> you might be being misled as to what levels you're getting. Much better
> would be to use the metering in the M-Audio Delta Control Panel, which
> is known to be accurate.

I use the M-Audio Delta Control Panel to monitor levels.  I usually
play safe and rarely get anywhere near overloading the input.

Spin-it-again is a basic, one task, LP recording program primarily
designed to put LPs onto CD. It records the whole LP to a single WAV
file with the sampling setup of your choice (eg 24bit/88.2kHz).  It
then has various clever tools to split the WAV into individual tracks
each titled with appropriate meta-data taken from the usual on-line
databases.  These tracks can either be burnt straight to CD or saved as
WAV or MP3 files (not FLAC unfortunately).

With my 24/88.2 test run I never got as far as splitting into tracks as
listening to the initial WAV file showed up the heavy distortion (I also
used dbPoweramp converter to FLAC the main WAV file to check compression
efficiency).

However, I have just discovered that SIA *always* converts the main WAV
file into 16/44.1 CD compatible WAV tracks, regardless of the initial
recording settings. Apart from that it is a brilliantly simple program
to use. The use of on-line CD metadata systems to title the tracks was
a masterstroke. So it is a disappointment that it is so limited in its
output options.

It is getting a bit left behind by the movement away from CD as a
listening medium and needs to increase its output options.  However,
the software company probably does not think it is worth updating such
a niche product.


-- 
TheLastMan

Matt

SB Duet, Synology Diskstation 107+ with FW 2.0-0600
SqueezeCenter 7.2 and SSODS 3 beta 15.
Naim 42/110 amp, B&W CM2 speakers.
LPs ripped using Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap, M-Audio 2496.
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