Rsyslog is already moving to the ASL license, so that is no difference.
Rsyslog already has github repos (and people could clone the existing adiscon
repos to github) so that is no difference and not required by a move to Apache
in any case.
Rsyslog doesn't need legal services or financial services that Apache would
provide.
there is already a community that is providing some patches (just not enough)
just changing ownership to the apache project doesn't always result in more
contributers (see Apache Open Office vs LibreOffice as an example)
how would contributions be easier if rsyslog was an Apache project? right now
contributions can be sent in and are generally accepted very promptly.
In spite of the 'that would rock' messages when the github repos were discussed,
that hasn't resulted in any additional contributions that I am aware of.
on the downside, there would be more administrative work that would need to be
done, and it would distract the people doing the most work, resulting in less
development for a while while the transition was made.
David Lang
On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Radu Gheorghe wrote:
Hi,
I'll leave it to Otis to give more details, because he's an Apache
committer, but I believe there's a misunderstanding here.
An Apache project can still be backed up by a commercial company. Lots of
projects are, like Solr, Flume (another logging product!) and so on. The
main advantage I see is that it's easier for the community to contribute
and drive the project forward. It's a model that seems to work for
open-source software, and lots of projects who got in there are doing very
well - very active, growing, lots of people offering
consulting&support&professional services, building more complex products on
top of them, packaging them in various ways, etc
I think this is an idea that would help drive more contributions and
hopefully solve the 24 hours/day problem that keeps popping up lately, more
and more as rsyslog gets more attention. To prove the "attention" theory,
let's look at some trends for rsyslog and some other products that came up
in discussions lately:
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=rsyslog%2C%20logstash%2C%20syslog-ng&cmpt=q
And the mailing list traffic:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.rsyslog
Maybe going to Apache would be a crazy idea in the sense that it requires
following that procedure. And people already have too little time. Maybe a
less crazy idea is just to put it on GitHub or somewhere similar where it
would be easy to just send pull requests. This will not only make code
patches easier, but I'm thinking at documentation, tests, issues, all in
one place.
Not only contributions would be easier, but it would make things would be
more visible. Your github profile counts for many as some sort of CV. The
more&better you contribute, the more awesome you are (think job
opportunities and such). For the project, it would make it easier to see
how it evolves: contributions, issues, wiki - again, all in one place. That
is familiar to many.
Apache takes this idea to a higher level, as far as I understand, so crazy
could be crazy-good. *Could be* - I don't know, really, I'm lacking
knowledge about how Adiscon and Apache works, although I have some idea
about both. Otis, maybe you can say some more about the advantages (and
disadvantages)?
And I'm obviously curious about what the Adiscon guys have to say about
this.
Best regards,
Radu
2013/12/11 Boylan, James <[email protected]>
I agree with David. As a business who developsand supports a product, I
can't see any reason for Adiscon to do so unless they decide to no longer
support and develop the software.
-- James
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----- Reply message -----
From: "David Lang" <[email protected]>
To: "rsyslog-users" <[email protected]>
Subject: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:09 PM
not being an adiscon person, my first question is why they would want to do
that?
David Lang
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:05:11 -0500
From: Otis Gospodnetic <[email protected]>
Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
Subject: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
Hi,
Maybe this is a completely crazy question, but has Adiscon ever
considered
moving Rsyslog to Apache?
Thanks,
Otis
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