Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?

David Lang Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:22:13 -0800

Rsyslog has been on git for a long time, creating additional repos on github isthe only new thing.

what is it about github that makes it especially collaborative compared to'just' git? everything I see is just exposing the capabilities fo git and a repoon github is not special in any way from any technical point of view, it's justvisible on the github website with the fork button rather than someone having totype git clone manually.

The Linux kernel is very collabrative, but it doesn't use github (and in factpulls from github are frowned upon, at least at the upper levels due to trustconcerns)


David Lang

 On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 12:16:51 -0500
From: Otis Gospodnetic <[email protected]>
Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?

Rome was not built in a day and 6 months is not a ton of time for things
like this :).  I've seen projects take 12 months to "warm up".  Some recent
examples:
* http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-drill-dev/
* http://search-hadoop.com/Kafka +
http://search-hadoop.com/?q=&fc_project=Kafka&fc_type=mail+_hash_+dev
* ...

This is completely normal.  I wouldn't give up after 6 months.

Also, is Rsyslog on Github or just switched to git?  I found
http://git.adiscon.com/?p=rsyslog.git;a=summary after googling, but not the
Github repo.... https://www.google.com/search?q=rsyslog+github ?
Git if fine, but I think Github's collaborative model is what is great
about it, not that it uses git, though git is what partially makes such
collaboration possible.

Otis
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Rainer Gerhards
<[email protected]>wrote:

Just a tiny note due to overload ;)

On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Radu Gheorghe <[email protected]

wrote:

Hi,

I'll leave it to Otis to give more details, because he's an Apache
committer, but I believe there's a misunderstanding here.

An Apache project can still be backed up by a commercial company. Lots of
projects are, like Solr, Flume (another logging product!) and so on. The
main advantage I see is that it's easier for the community to contribute
and drive the project forward. It's a model that seems to work for
open-source software, and lots of projects who got in there are doing

very

well - very active, growing, lots of people offering
consulting&support&professional services, building more complex products

on

top of them, packaging them in various ways, etc

I think this is an idea that would help drive more contributions and
hopefully solve the 24 hours/day problem that keeps popping up lately,

more

and more as rsyslog gets more attention. To prove the "attention" theory,
let's look at some trends for rsyslog and some other products that came

up

in discussions lately:

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=rsyslog%2C%20logstash%2C%20syslog-ng&cmpt=q


And the mailing list traffic:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.rsyslog

Maybe going to Apache would be a crazy idea in the sense that it requires
following that procedure. And people already have too little time. Maybe

less crazy idea is just to put it on GitHub or somewhere similar where it
would be easy to just send pull requests.



Well... done so 6 month ago ;) This is the initial blog post with some
progress:

http://blog.gerhards.net/2013/05/moving-to-github.html

Was announced at several places. Overall feedback is "not bad, but no real
difference".

Rainer

This will not only make code
patches easier, but I'm thinking at documentation, tests, issues, all in
one place.

Not only contributions would be easier, but it would make things would be
more visible. Your github profile counts for many as some sort of CV. The
more&better you contribute, the more awesome you are (think job
opportunities and such). For the project, it would make it easier to see
how it evolves: contributions, issues, wiki - again, all in one place.

That

is familiar to many.

Apache takes this idea to a higher level, as far as I understand, so

crazy

could be crazy-good. *Could be* - I don't know, really, I'm lacking
knowledge about how Adiscon and Apache works, although I have some idea
about both. Otis, maybe you can say some more about the advantages (and
disadvantages)?

And I'm obviously curious about what the Adiscon guys have to say about
this.

Best regards,
Radu

2013/12/11 Boylan, James <[email protected]>

I agree with David. As a business who developsand supports a product, I
can't see any reason for Adiscon to do so unless they decide to no

longer

support and develop the software.

-- James
-- Sent from my mobile --

----- Reply message -----
From: "David Lang" <[email protected]>
To: "rsyslog-users" <[email protected]>
Subject: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?
Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2013 3:09 PM

not being an adiscon person, my first question is why they would want

to

do

that?

David Lang

On Wed, 11 Dec 2013, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 16:05:11 -0500
From: Otis Gospodnetic <[email protected]>
Reply-To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
To: rsyslog-users <[email protected]>
Subject: [rsyslog] Rsyslog => Apache?

Hi,

Maybe this is a completely crazy question, but has Adiscon ever

considered

moving Rsyslog to Apache?

Thanks,
Otis
--
Performance Monitoring * Log Analytics * Search Analytics
Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/
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