RE: [Declude.JunkMail] [IMail Forum] odd behavior

2005-02-24 Thread David Barker
As AUTOWHITELIST   ON is in your global.cfg is it possible that
ameripride.org is in an address book ?

David B
www.declude.com





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Anderson
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] [IMail Forum] odd behavior


That's the thing, I have one white list file (hate whitelists) and
ameripride is not in it
Did anything change in declude junkmail lately in reguards to whitelists (I
just upgrade 2 nights ago)? 
All I have for references to whitelist are :
 
$default.junkmail 
WHITELISTFILE D:\Imail\Declude\AWHITELST.txt
#note AWhitelst.txt does not include ameripride.org
 
Global.cfg
CODE
LOGFILE d:\declude\logfiles\dec.log
LOGLEVELLOW
HOP 0
HIDETESTS CATCHALLMAILS IPNOTINMX NOLEGITCONTENT
XINHEADER X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail
(www.declude.com) for spam.
XINHEADER X-Spam-Tests-Failed: %TESTSFAILED% [%WEIGHT%]
XINHEADER X-Country-Chain: %COUNTRYCHAIN%
XOUTHEADER X-Note: E-mail scanned by Declude-JunkMail for spam by CRC.
XSENDER  ON
XSPOOLNAME ON
XINHEADER X-Note: This E-mail was sent from %REVDNS% ([%REMOTEIP%]).
PREWHITELIST ON
AUTOWHITELIST   ON
WHITELIST AUTH
.
.
WHITELIST IP 192.168.0.182
WHITELIST IP 192.168.0.85
WHITELIST IP 192.168.0.86
#Servers on local network (not exposed to public) that send emails (status
reports)
 

- Original Message - 
From: E. Shanbrom (Ipswitch) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] odd behavior

Says ameripride.org is on the whitelist (decludes not IMail's)
 
Eric S

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Anderson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] odd behavior

Trying to figure out why it's white listed. 
 
02:22 07:40 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [192.168.0.135] connect
221.127.179.32 port 1194
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [221.127.179.32] HELO
67.130.17.126
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [221.127.179.32] MAIL
FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [221.127.179.32] RCPT
TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [221.127.179.32] RCPT
TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [221.127.179.32] RCPT
TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [221.127.179.32]
d:\IMail\spool\D3664039604421990.SMD 201
02:22 07:41 SMTP-(3664039604421990) processing
d:\IMail\spool\Q3664039604421990.SMD
02:22 07:41 SMTPD(3664039604421990) [ameripride.org] in
white list
02/22/2005 07:41:11 Q3664039604421990 Scanned: Virus Free 
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 L1 Message OK
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 Tests failed
[weight=25]: BADHEADERS=WARN CMDSPACE=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE
NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE REVDNS=WARN TLD=WARN COUNTRY=WARN WEIGHT10PLUS=SUBJECT
CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE 
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 L2 Message OK
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 Tests failed
[weight=25]: BADHEADERS=WARN CMDSPACE=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE
NOLEGITCONTENT=IGNORE REVDNS=WARN TLD=WARN COUNTRY=WARN WEIGHT10PLUS=SUBJECT
CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE 
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 Skipping4 E-mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; whitelisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 Skipping4 E-mail from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; whitelisted [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 L3 Message OK
02/22/2005 07:41:14 Q3664039604421990 Tests failed
[weight=0]: CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE 
02:22 07:41 SMTP-(3664039604421990) ldeliver
mail.ameripride.org maria.snyder-main (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972
02:22 07:41 SMTP-(3664039604421990) ldeliver
mail.ameripride.org reggie.licari-main (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972
02:22 07:41 SMTP-(3664039604421990) ldeliver
mail.ameripride.org richard.boudreau-main (1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
972
02:22 07:41 SMTP-(3664039604421990) finished
d:\IMail\spool\Q3664039604421990.SMD status=1


- Original Message - 
From: Travis Rabe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] odd behavior


What 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Body filter adding extra 10 points

2005-02-25 Thread David Barker
Goran,

1. Do you have a copy of the actual email header ?
2. Is this Qbca31d68008ed51d the only test that failed ?

David B
www.declude.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:44 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Body filter adding extra 10 points

Hi,

I am seeing very strange behaviour with one of my body filters.

These are the only three entries with STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL:

BODY2   CONTAINSSTRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
BODY20  CONTAINSSTRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL  URGENT
BODY20  CONTAINSSTRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS
PROPOSAL

From the Declude Log:

02/16/2005 16:36:04 Qbca31d68008ed51d Triggered BODY CONTAINS filter
FILTER-NIGERIAN-SCAM on STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL [weight-12; strictly
confidential to you a].

And the actual message text which is a plain text message:

I would appreciate your keeping the fact of this meeting strictly
confidential to you alone.

So the question is how did an extra 10 points get added to this?

Declude 1.82 on IMail. 

Thanx 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Body filter adding extra 10 points

2005-02-25 Thread David Barker
Can you post the line in your global.cfg file FILTER-NIGERIAN-SCAM I am
guessing you may have an extra 10 point being added there that should not
be. Lets have a look.

Thanks
David
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Body filter adding extra 10 points

David,

4 e-mails with the same text failed.

This is what came back to me as part of the SpamAttach.eml file. Do you need
anything else?

Subject:RE: Governance Working Group Call 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   16 Feb 2005 at 17:25:07
Tests Failed:   IPNOTINMX [0], REVDNS [4], SIZE-S [0],
FILTER-NIGERIAN-SCAM [12], FILTER-PORN [12]
Weight: 23
Spool File: Dc8371a990086d99d.SMD

To view the E-mail, just click the attachment.

Headers:
Received: from xxx.xxx.ca [xxx.xxx.xxx.xx] by mail1.gonetworks.net with
ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.13) id A8381A990086; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:24:56 -0500
Received: by TQSEMAIL with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
id XVPK2RLX; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:28:57 -0500
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Michel J. Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Douglas Barrett' [EMAIL PROTECTED], + another dozen TOs
Cc: to 2 CC
Subject: RE: Governance Working Group Call
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:28:46 -0500
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary=_=_NextPart_000_01C51476.DB426E2C






 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:59 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Body filter adding extra 10 points
 
 Goran,
 
 1. Do you have a copy of the actual email header ?
 2. Is this Qbca31d68008ed51d the only test that failed ?
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
Jovanovic
 Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:44 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Body filter adding extra 10 points
 
 Hi,
 
 I am seeing very strange behaviour with one of my body filters.
 
 These are the only three entries with STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL:
 
 BODY  2   CONTAINSSTRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
 BODY  20  CONTAINSSTRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL  URGENT
 BODY  20  CONTAINSSTRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS
 PROPOSAL
 
 From the Declude Log:
 
 02/16/2005 16:36:04 Qbca31d68008ed51d Triggered BODY CONTAINS filter 
 FILTER-NIGERIAN-SCAM on STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL [weight-12; strictly 
 confidential to you a].
 
 And the actual message text which is a plain text message:
 
 I would appreciate your keeping the fact of this meeting strictly 
 confidential to you alone.
 
 So the question is how did an extra 10 points get added to this?
 
 Declude 1.82 on IMail.
 
 Thanx
 
 
  Goran Jovanovic
  The LAN Shoppe
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Errors in virus log

2005-02-25 Thread David Barker



1. In the delcude folder if you are not running 
Hijackrename the file hijack.cfg to hijack.bak
2. Open your global.cfg comment out the line CONSOLE 
ON

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff 
FrantzSent: Friday, February 25, 2005 11:09 AMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Errors in 
virus log


Im using Declude v2.05 on Imail 
8.15. I see the below error for each message in the virus 
log.

02/25/2005 11:05:26 
Q4cb81c81018c9f59 Couldn't find console; starting... 
(2).
02/25/2005 11:05:26 
Q4cb81c81018c9f59 Error starting deccon.exe: 2
02/25/2005 11:05:28 
Q4cb81c81018c9f59 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 1 
3353]
02/25/2005 11:05:40 
Q4ccd1c84018c9f5b Couldn't find console; starting... 
(2).
02/25/2005 11:05:40 
Q4ccd1c84018c9f5b Error starting deccon.exe: 2
02/25/2005 11:05:40 
Q4ccd1c84018c9f5b MIME file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=1139 
Checksum=93723]
02/25/2005 11:05:41 
Q4ccd1c84018c9f5b Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 
1708]
02/25/2005 11:05:52 
Q4ca001d002309f4d Couldn't find console; starting... 
(2).
02/25/2005 11:05:52 
Q4ca001d002309f4d Error starting deccon.exe: 2
02/25/2005 11:05:52 
Q4ca001d002309f4d MIME file: [text/HTML][*DEFAULT*; Length=26995 
Checksum=2039562]
02/25/2005 11:05:52 
Q4ca001d002309f4d MIME file: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [base64; Length=26139 
Checksum=3515058]
02/25/2005 11:05:53 
Q4ca001d002309f4d Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 3 
57993]
02/25/2005 11:06:57 
Q4d21207b018a9f70 Couldn't find console; starting... 
(2).
02/25/2005 11:06:57 
Q4d21207b018a9f70 Error starting deccon.exe: 2
02/25/2005 11:06:57 
Q4d21207b018a9f70 MIME file: [message/disposition-notification][7bit; Length=174 
Checksum=18255]
02/25/2005 11:06:58 
Q4d21207b018a9f70 Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2 531]

What do the messages Couldnt find 
console and Error starting deccon.exe mean? I was seeing the same 
errors with Declude v1.82 so I upgraded to v2.05 this morning to see if they 
would go away.

Thanks!
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] casino spam

2005-02-25 Thread David Barker



Kyle,

When willyou stop signing up for those 
gambling sites, you know you can't win? :)

No reported increase on our side.

David B
www.declude.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kyle Fisher 

  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 5:40 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] casino 
  spam
  
  
  Has anyone noticed in the past 
  week an increase in casino, or party poker, etc.. 
  spam?
  
  Kyle


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] casino spam

2005-02-25 Thread David Barker



Which can under certain circumstances be correct. 
If you had signed up with the websitethen declude is correct in 
identifying them as legitimate email. It is possible we could set up some 
additional filters to help with a specific type of Spam.

David B
www.declude.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kyle Fisher 

  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:00 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] casino 
  spam
  
  
  What’s funny is I did 
  sign up for an account a couple of weeks ago and I still haven’t won. I 
  did it for the free set of poker chips.
  
  That’s what I 
  figured. It’s strange everything will be going fine for a few weeks then 
  for some reason we get a small flood of something. Like 
  casino.
  
  What I hate is that 
  these messages getting through fail sniffer but that’s it no other 
  tests.
  
  Kyle
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of David 
  BarkerSent: Friday, February 
  25, 2005 4:51 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] casino 
  spam
  
  
  Kyle,
  
  
  
  When willyou stop signing up 
  for those gambling sites, you know you can't win? 
  :)
  
  
  
  No reported increase on our 
  side.
  
  
  
  David 
  B
  
  www.declude.com
  

- Original Message - 


From: Kyle Fisher 


To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 


Sent: Friday, 
February 25, 2005 5:40 PM

Subject: 
[Declude.JunkMail] casino spam


Has anyone noticed in the past 
week an increase in casino, or party poker, etc.. 
spam?

Kyle


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax

2005-03-01 Thread David Barker
Kyle,
 
From the system documentation written by Scott  Perry.
 
IGNORE   This action does not do anything (aside from log that the E-mail
failed the test).  Same as the LOG action.
LOG  This action does not do anything (aside from log that the E-mail
failed the test).  Same as the IGNORE action.

David B
www.declude.com




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyle Fisher
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail Syntax



In the Junkmail file you have DELETE, HOLD, WARN, IGNORE. 

 

What does IGNORE actually do?

 

Kyle



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is declude.com down?

2005-03-03 Thread David Barker
Yes Declude is down. We are aware of the problem and working to resolve
this. We will be back up asap.

David B
www.declude.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hirthe, Alexander
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:45 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is declude.com down?

yes for me.

63.246.13.88
 

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:24 PM
 To: Declude Email List
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is declude.com down?
 
 anyone?
 
 Che Vilnonis
 Application Developer
 Advertising Systems Incorporated
 8470C Remington Avenue
 Pennsauken, NJ 08110
 p: 856.488.2211
 f: 856.488.1990
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clock Time on Declude Support

2005-03-04 Thread David Barker



Thank you for your feedback. Ihave fixed 
it.Friday night 10:30 pm. What we do too please our customers ;) As for 
the website it is my responsibility and not that of our programmers, so you can 
be confident that this does not reflect our programmers skills.

David B
www.declude.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave Doherty 
  
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:53 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clock 
  Time on Declude Support
  
  Actually, it shows -4 hours. 
  
  
  GMTas I write thisis 01:46 
  The code they use on the pagesubtracts five hours, which results in a 
  value of -4 for the hours. They need to add a line to add 24 if the result is 
  negative. I'm sure it looks fine 19 
  hours a day, though...
  
  And no, it does not giveme a lot 
  of confidence, either, but now that we've aired the problem and the cure, 
  let's see how long it takes to fix...
  
  -d
  
  
  
  
  
  SCRIPTfunction tick() 
  {var hours, minutes, seconds, ap;var intHours, intMinutes, 
  intSeconds;var today;today = new Date();intHours = 
  today.getUTCHours()-5;intMinutes = 
  today.getUTCMinutes();intSeconds = today.getUTCSeconds();
  
  //add 
  this:
  if (intHours  
  0) {
  intHours += 
  24
  }
  
  if (intHours == 0) {
  
  hours = "12:";
  
  ap = "EST Midnight";} else if 
  (intHours  12) {hours = intHours+":";ap = " AM EST is the current 
  time for Declude Support Personnel";} else if (intHours == 12) {hours 
  = "12:";ap = "EST Noon";} else {intHours = intHours - 12hours 
  = intHours + ":";ap = "PM EST is the current time for Declude Support 
  Personnel";}if (intMinutes  10) {minutes = 
  "0"+intMinutes+":";} else {minutes = intMinutes+":";}if 
  (intSeconds  10) {seconds = "0"+intSeconds+" ";} else {seconds 
  = intSeconds+" ";}timeString = 
  hours+minutes+seconds+ap;Clock.innerHTML = 
  timeString;window.setTimeout("tick();", 100);}window.>/SCRIPT
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  From: "Erik" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:25 
  PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clock 
  Time on Declude Support
  Is just my browser, or is Declude's clock 
  on:https://www.declude.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5Off? In CET (Central European Time) of 
  2:15AM, their clock shows 4:15AM ESTwhen it should be showing 9:15PM 
  EST..hope this doesn't reflect in their 2.0 programming 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clock Time on Declude Support

2005-03-04 Thread David Barker



Darin,

Check now - is that better? I noticed the flicker 
seemed to only occur in FireFox not IE.

David B
www.declude.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Darin Cox 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clock 
  Time on Declude Support
  
  FYI...your clock script flickers 
  needlessly... Instead of refreshing every 1/10 of a second, you might 
  want to change the following line in your clock script
  
  window.setTimeout("tick();", 100);
  
  Torefresh every second...
  
  window.setTimeout("tick();", 1000);
  
  or even strip off the seconds and just display 
  minutes.
  
  Many web developers put this in for the "cool" 
  factor, or because they can, butseconds provide little value in this 
  case.
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Barker 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 10:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Clock Time on Declude 
  Support
  
  Thank you for your feedback. Ihave fixed 
  it.Friday night 10:30 pm. What we do too please our customers ;) As for 
  the website it is my responsibility and not that of our programmers, so you 
  can be confident that this does not reflect our programmers 
  skills.
  
  David B
  www.declude.com
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dave Doherty 

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:53 
PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: 
Clock Time on Declude Support

Actually, it shows -4 hours. 


GMTas I write thisis 
01:46 The code they use on the pagesubtracts five hours, which results 
in a value of -4 for the hours. They need to add a line to add 24 if the 
result is negative. I'm sure it 
looks fine 19 hours a day, though...

And no, it does not giveme a 
lot of confidence, either, but now that we've aired the problem and the 
cure, let's see how long it takes to fix...

-d





SCRIPTfunction tick() 
{var hours, minutes, seconds, ap;var intHours, intMinutes, 
intSeconds;var today;today = new Date();intHours = 
today.getUTCHours()-5;intMinutes = 
today.getUTCMinutes();intSeconds = today.getUTCSeconds();

//add 
this:
if (intHours 
 0) {
intHours += 
24
}

if (intHours == 0) {

hours = "12:";

ap = "EST Midnight";} else if 
(intHours  12) {hours = intHours+":";ap = " AM EST is the 
current time for Declude Support Personnel";} else if (intHours == 12) 
{hours = "12:";ap = "EST Noon";} else {intHours = intHours - 
12hours = intHours + ":";ap = "PM EST is the current time for 
Declude Support Personnel";}if (intMinutes  10) {minutes = 
"0"+intMinutes+":";} else {minutes = intMinutes+":";}if 
(intSeconds  10) {seconds = "0"+intSeconds+" ";} else 
{seconds = intSeconds+" ";}timeString = 
hours+minutes+seconds+ap;Clock.innerHTML = 
timeString;window.setTimeout("tick();", 100);}window.>/SCRIPT








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Is just my browser, or is Declude's clock 
on:https://www.declude.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=5Off? In CET (Central European Time) of 
2:15AM, their clock shows 4:15AM ESTwhen it should be showing 9:15PM 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?

2005-03-16 Thread David Barker
Maybe you missed the post that was made a few days ago.
 
There have been a number of posts on the JunkMail list regarding the DELETE
issue and a fix is currently being tested both internally and externally.
Subject to receiving a green light from our external testers and no new
issues arising we anticipate delivering a release (2.0.6) shortly.

The changes to 2.0.5 are still currently being tested. 

We want to ensure clear communication with our customers.

Do you have specific questions to which we have not responded?

David B
www.declude.com



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:29 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?


It's starting to look like things are going downhill since Scott left.  I
don't remember ever having to wait this 
long for a issue to be resolved.  I don't feel comfortable with v2.xx until
these issues are addressed.  I hope 
they get things togetherthis was always a very responsive company in the
past. 

Gary


At 11:06 AM 3/16/2005, you wrote:


Me either Declude has been pretty silent with a lack of
communication in all areas.


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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Darin Cox

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:17 PM

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?


I haven't heard anything in the past couple of weeks about
the fixes to 2.05 that were being worked on...still waiting to see the fixes
before upgrading from 1.82.


Darin.


  

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?

2005-03-17 Thread David Barker
Target release date for 2.0.6 - 28 March 04

List of known issues which have been addressed

ACTIONS Incorrectly run against the copyall account
Overflow system for SmarterMail as in IMail
COPYFILE action issue with SmarterMail
Delete action clarified and enhanced

We are currently working on all outstanding high priority issues. If there
are any other known issue's please let us know.

List of enhancements

Enhanced Logging on actions
Enhanced option for Hold Action
High Level Declude Settings File declude.cfg added
Several new directives
New tools for tech support to help with trouble shooting

When we release 2.0.6 there will be release notes explaining these in more
detail.

We will be posting information to a new Development forum which we have
setup at http://www.declude.com/forum where we will communicate ongoing
development activity in particular development cycle.

David B
www.declude.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?

Didn't miss it...it's just been a while since that was posted.

Is there a target date for 2.06?

I've asked for a list of known issues with 2.05 previously, with no answer.
Also wanted to know if all known issues were being addressed in 2.06.

Darin.


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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?


Maybe you missed the post that was made a few days ago.

There have been a number of posts on the JunkMail list regarding the DELETE
issue and a fix is currently being tested both internally and externally.
Subject to receiving a green light from our external testers and no new
issues arising we anticipate delivering a release (2.0.6) shortly.

The changes to 2.0.5 are still currently being tested.

We want to ensure clear communication with our customers.

Do you have specific questions to which we have not responded?

David B
www.declude.com



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Brumm
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:29 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?


It's starting to look like things are going downhill since Scott left.  I
don't remember ever having to wait this
long for a issue to be resolved.  I don't feel comfortable with v2.xx until
these issues are addressed.  I hope
they get things togetherthis was always a very responsive company in the
past.

Gary


At 11:06 AM 3/16/2005, you wrote:


Me either Declude has been pretty silent with a lack of
communication in all areas.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Darin Cox

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:17 PM

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?


I haven't heard anything in the past couple of weeks about
the fixes to 2.05 that were being worked on...still waiting to see the fixes
before upgrading from 1.82.


Darin.






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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?

2005-03-17 Thread David Barker
Yes I did mean 28 March 05 but considering most people need things yesterday
I guess you could say that was appropriate :) 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:07 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Any word on the 2.06 release?

 Target release date for 2.0.6 - 28 March 04

 David B
 www.declude.com

I take it you mean 28 March 05?

;)

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Off Topic.

2005-03-18 Thread David Barker
Fred,

There are quite a few out there I have heard that
http://www.hostingaccelerator.com/ is pretty good.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:24 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Off Topic.

I am looking for recommendations of software that allows users to manage
there own web domain. We host websites for many people and we are looking to
give them more control. Some sort of Portal/Control Panel. We are a windows
shop.

Thanks.

Fred Samarelli


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files

2005-03-21 Thread David Barker
Joe here is a very basic filter but hopefully will help get you started:
 
SKIPIFWEIGHT 16
 
MINWEIGHTTOFAIL  3
MAXWEIGHT   12
 
#Subject
SUBJECT 3 CONTAINS Online Pharmacy
 
#Words
BODY 5 CONTAINS Meds
BODY 2 CONTAINS cheap Perscriptions
BODY 2 CONTAINS No prescription required
BODY 2 CONTAINS No Doctor Visits
 
#Medication
BODY 2 CONTAINS codiene
BODY 2 CONTAINS Codeine
BODY 2 CONTAINS vicodin
BODY 2 CONTAINS viagra
BODY 2 CONTAINS Cialis
 
#URBL
BODY 12 CONTAINS fopq.org
BODY 12 CONTAINS awayhowbad.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS royalmeds.info
BODY 12 CONTAINS uncompromisingmind.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS simply-meds.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS ritheworldofall.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS medberthgood.com
 
#Spam Indicators
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cia|is
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cialls

Here are some good links too:

http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/
http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

David B
www.declude.com



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Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 3:44 PM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files



I am currently thinking about using a filter file to filter out some
unwanted messages.  Does anyone have some sample filter files that I could
use as a starting point?  I sure would appreciate some help getting started
on this.

 

Joe



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files

2005-03-22 Thread David Barker
Joe,

Sniffer well definitely add a lot of value to scanning content.

David B
www.declude.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Raykiewicz
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 8:54 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] filter files

Thanks to both of you.  I am looking to get mostly obscene stuff, but the
medical stuff would be very good to catch also.  I will start with this and
then adventure out on my own:D On a side note has anyone used Message
Sniffer, and would it help with this type of stuff or am i looking in the
wrong direction?

Thanks again,

Joe


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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:04:55 -0500

Joe here is a very basic filter but hopefully will help get you started:
 
SKIPIFWEIGHT 16
 
MINWEIGHTTOFAIL  3
MAXWEIGHT   12
 
#Subject
SUBJECT 3 CONTAINS Online Pharmacy
 
#Words
BODY 5 CONTAINS Meds
BODY 2 CONTAINS cheap Perscriptions
BODY 2 CONTAINS No prescription required BODY 2 CONTAINS No Doctor 
Visits
 
#Medication
BODY 2 CONTAINS codiene
BODY 2 CONTAINS Codeine
BODY 2 CONTAINS vicodin
BODY 2 CONTAINS viagra
BODY 2 CONTAINS Cialis
 
#URBL
BODY 12 CONTAINS fopq.org
BODY 12 CONTAINS awayhowbad.com
BODY 12 CONTAINS royalmeds.info
BODY 12 CONTAINS uncompromisingmind.com BODY 12 CONTAINS 
simply-meds.com BODY 12 CONTAINS ritheworldofall.com BODY 12 CONTAINS 
medberthgood.com
 
#Spam Indicators
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cia|is
BODY 12 CONTAINS Cialls

Here are some good links too:

http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/
http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=100

David B
www.declude.com



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I am currently thinking about using a filter file to filter out some 
unwanted messages.  Does anyone have some sample filter files that I 
could use as a starting point?  I sure would appreciate some help 
getting started on this.

 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

2005-04-04 Thread David Barker
It depends on the reason for using WHITELIST AUTH if it is because outgoing
mail is being marked as spam or held you can look at the settings and
ACTIONS in global.cfg also you could try adding the following line to your
global.cfg

WHITELIST FROM @yourdomain.com

Where yourdomain is actually the name of your domain

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:03 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain

Oops.. not that I know of.  I believe it wasn't until V8 that IMail passed
the info to Junkmail.  Your best bet may be IP whitelists (negative
weighting, really) using the ipfile test.

Darin.


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Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelisting our Domain


I'm using IMail 7.14 and I noticted that in the Declude help page that
WHITELIST AUTH only works with V8 and above?

Is there any way to do this with V7.14?


 Yes.

 If all users send through your server, then use SMTP AUTH on all clients
 and
 configure Junkmail to whitelist AUTHing users.  If not, but all mail comes
 in from static IPs, you could use an IP whitelist to bypass for those IPs.

 Darin.


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 Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:25 AM
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 If we whitelist our domain will Spam that spoofs our email addresses and
 domain also be whitelisted? If so, how can I circumvent it?

 Thanks,

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailbox stats

2005-04-08 Thread David Barker

You could look at DLAnalyzer which provides an easy way to generate
comprehensive reports on Declude Virus and Junkmail. 

http://www.invariantsystems.com/dlanalyzer/ 

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:10 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailbox stats

Does anyone have any simple software to analyze the imail logs and for a
domain give stats one number of mails in and out and a list of where mails
are coming from and going to?.  I have a customer asking for these kind of
stats and I suspect there is something out there.

Would rather not spend a lot of time and effort to achieve it however.

Thanks

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test

2005-04-12 Thread David Barker
Any feedback on these tests and performance will be appreciated here is some
info on these tests.

BCC bcc 10  x   5   0
This test type, checks to see if there are more than X known BCC:'s for this
E-mail (where X is the first test-type-specific piece of information set to
10 in this example). It simply goes through each recipient, and checks to
see if the E-mail contains the E-mail address of the recipient. The first
piece of test-type-specific information is the minimum number of BCC:'s
required in order for the E-mail to fail the test.
 
DYNHELO dynhelo x   x   5   0
This test type, attempts to detect dynamic IPs in HELO/EHLO hostnames. This
test should be quite effective, since mailservers on IPs that have
dynamic-like reverse DNS entries will *not* normally send an HELO/EHLO that
looks dynamic.

David B
www.declude.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:12 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test

Is anyone using the DYNHELO test in Declude - if so do you have any
information on it?  What specifically is it looking for?  False positive 
rate?I found it in the new global.cfg file, but did not see any 
references to it in the manual. 

Also, for the BCC test any thoughts on what the sweet spot tends to be - by
default it comes at 10.  Has anyone tweaked this? 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] MS-Exchange, Store and Forward and Declude

2005-04-12 Thread David Barker
If you are forwarding mail to another server in other words using Declude
for OUTBOUND scanning the Actions are defined in the global.cfg also
consider it will be using the xoutheaders in your global.cfg.

David B
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Alright, I've run a few tests, and much of it seems to be working. 
However, when I look at the headers, it says X-Note: This E-mail was
scanned by Declude JunkMail for spam. but I'm not seeing
X-Spam-Tests-Failed or any of the other headers.  I do have a directory
set up in the declude directory with a $default$.junkmail file, but I'm
fairly certain that Declude is not using that file at all, and is likely
defaulting to the global.cfg settings.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test

2005-04-12 Thread David Barker
Yes, I agree, I thought I would post it anyway as he had said he could not
find any info of these tests in the manual.

David B
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On 12 Apr 2005 at 13:16, David Barker wrote:
Hi David,

 BCC   bcc 10  x   5   0
 This test type, checks to see if there are more than X known BCC:'s
I think Darrell's question was related to optimum setting  rather than
functionality. 

-Nick

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test

2005-04-12 Thread David Barker
That is correct, these two tests were among several tests added to the 
global.cfg file, as they were documented by Scott, however they are not 
available in the current declude.exe as we move forward with adding 
additional tests these will very likely be activated in future releases.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test


From my own experimentation, I'd say that as of today in v2.0.6
DYNHELO is definitely working.
IPURL and ENCODEDURL are definitely not working.
The two URL based tests only show up in Debug mode as *not* being
triggered.
Andrew 8)
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test
Is it available now?  Is it working in 2.0.6?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DYNHELO Test
Probably meant not available (at the time).
Best Regards
Andy Schmidt
Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

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Why is IPURL listed as Currently N/A ?  Not Applicable?  To what?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Something new with v 2.0.6

2005-04-13 Thread David Barker
Title: Message



Fredrick,

But with these there are no spaces in the x line: but with 
this one X-Spam-Tests-Failed-Weight: 
there is a space.
David B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick 
SamarelliSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:28 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Something 
new with v 2.0.6

Good Thought but I have these others without 
problem. Thanks.

XINHEADER X-Note: Total spam weight of 
this E-mail is %WEIGHT%.XINHEADERX-RBL-Warning: Total 
weight: %WEIGHT%XINHEADERX-Note: This E-mail was scanned  
filtered by TCB [%VERSION%] for SPAM  
virus.XINHEADERX-Note: Sent from: 
%MAILFROM%XINHEADERX-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS: %REVDNS% 
([%REMOTEIP%])XINHEADERX-Note: Recipient(s): 
%REALRECIPS%- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Andy Schmidt 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 4:02 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Something 
  new with v 2.0.6
  
  Hi 
  Frederick:
  
  I 
  don't know if this has been asked/suggested already and I don't have time to 
  go back to the RFCs to see if embedded spaces are permitted in the header 
  name. But have you ever tried eliminating that space:
  
  
  XINHEADERX-Spam-Tests-Failed Weight: 
  %TESTSFAILEDWITHWEIGHTS%
  
   replace with:
  
  
  XINHEADERX-Spam-Tests-Failed-Weight: 
  %TESTSFAILEDWITHWEIGHTS%
  
  May 
  be the problem is that there is a CR/LF followed by a line that contains no 
  header name(due to the embedded space) following by another CR/LF. 
  May be those two CR/LF without valid header information inbetween are 
  interpreted as "start of message body" by some 
  entities?
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 
  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick 
SamarelliSent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 03:42 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] 
Something new with v 2.0.6
Mike/Matt (thanks for your help) You 
should be able to duplicated by just forwarding an email to an outside 
account using the problem line at the bottom.

As not to confuse things I simplified 
the process.

Send an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]= [EMAIL PROTECTED](forwarded to) 
= [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This run through only one server on my 
network.


Header from My AOL 
account.
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: 
from rly-xm04.mx.aol.com (rly-xm04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.105]) by 
air-xm03.mail.aol.com (v105.26) with ESMTP id MAILINXM31-606425d743d132; 
Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:34:25 -0400Received: from bks.tcbinc.com 
(bks.tcbinc.com [64.124.117.196]) by rly-xm04.mx.aol.com (v105.26) with 
ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXM42-606425d743d132; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:34:21 
-0400Received: from SMTP32-FWD by bks.tcbinc.com (SMTP32) id 
A741100040470EC67; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:33:42 Received: from 
web51806.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.237] by bks.tcbinc.com 
(SMTPD32-8.15) id A41140470; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:33:37 -0400Received: 
(qmail 50369 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 2005 19:34:12 -Comment: 
DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeysDomainKey-Signature: 
a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; 
b=M12dWrk8x99pS4FhLTVJbfbgIc60YrjkjS/Vi2yiCoare5X2fk5F+zDzAA2XuOKAyAuKoj3EEGBHc6gPlwybZ/TMSShXoJtIypUpKUZZrm7SoU0rx30hedmPe9IecDArBynamRJFf8HjmCsGFKGIwJhKUjwV4wNnw1wLdarF7SE= 
;Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Received: 
from [64.124.117.139] by web51806.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 
12:34:12 PDTDate: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:34:12 -0700 (PDT)From: 
Frederick Samarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
test10To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]MIME-Version: 
1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-asciiX-RBL-Warning: 
SNIFFERZERO: Message failed SNIFFERZERO: 0.X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[206.190.38.237]X-Declude-Spoolname: D741100040470EC67.SMDX-Note: 
Total spam weight of this E-mail is 0.X-RBL-Warning: Total weight: 
0X-Note: This E-mail was scanned  filtered by TCB [2.0.6] for SPAM 
 virus.X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SNIFFERZERO
Message Body (should only be the word test10)
X-Spam-Tests-Failed Weight: SNIFFERZERO 
[0]X-Spam-Time:15:33:42X-Weight: 0X-Mailfrom: 
samarelli.yahoo.comX-Note: Sent from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Note: 
Sent from Reverse DNS: web51806.mail.yahoo.com 
([206.190.38.237])X-Hello: web51806.mail.yahoo.comX-Note: 
Recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED]X-Country-Chain: UNITED 
STATES-destinationX-AOL-IP: 
64.124.117.196X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE:0:0:0:X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT:0test10

Culprit:
XINHEADERX-Spam-Tests-Failed 
Weight: 
%TESTSFAILEDWITHWEIGHTS%__ 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Could not move spam to hold! error since 2.0.6?

2005-04-18 Thread David Barker
In your $default$.junkmail where you have a HOLD as an Action try putting a
%DATE% after eg:

WEIGHT20HOLD %DATE%

David B
www.declude.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Ryan
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:57 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Could not move spam to hold! error since
2.0.6?

Hi all,

Running Declude Junkmail Pro 2.0.6 on Imail 8.15.  I upgraded Declude to
2.0.6 from 2.0.5 on 4/15 and have gotten a few of these seemingly randoml
log errors every day since.  Nothing else on the server changed but Declude.

04/15/2005 11:19:37 QDB810281006E1D24 ERROR: Could not move spam to hold!
Code: [123] Error String: [The filename, directory name, or volume label
syntax is incorrect.] [D:\IMAIL\SPOOL\DDB810281006E1D24.SMD] [X-RBL-Warning:
%TESTNAME%: 
%WARNING%\DDB810281006E1D24.SMD]

04/15/2005 20:48:06 Q60C2026A01442C0A ERROR: Could not move spam to hold!
Code: [3] Error String: [The system cannot find the path specified.]
[D:\IMAIL\SPOOL\D60C2026A01442C0A.SMD]
[D:\IMAIL\SPOOL\spam\[JUNKMAIL] \D60C2026A01442C0A.SMD]

I didn't see anything in the archives but I'm not the best searcher.  So
forgive me if it's been covered.  It appears to be happening with messages
addressed to multiple users and some are configured to WARN and others
configured to HOLD.  Is anyone else seeing these?  Is this a known issue?

Thanks!

--Todd.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

2005-04-20 Thread David Barker
Will,

Just to make sure, your Imail is passing on mail to another server and
therefore acting as a gateway that is why you are using OUTBOUND actions
correct?

David B
www.declude.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] PERCENT test confusion

I'm trying to understand why my mail server is sending so many messages to
the quarantine folders instead of just marking the headers.  In fact, the
vast majority of my SPAM is going to the spool/spam folder since updating
all the declude rules.

The only test I have set to HOLD is the PERCENT test and when I look at the
messages being quarantined, none of them have a percent symbol in the To:
line.  Since there are so many messages failing this test, I am concerned
that there is legitimate content I am missing, though I have yet to find one
from the hundred thousand messages it caught just yesterday.

Should I be concerned and does anyone have good insight about how the
PERCENT test works?  It seems too good to be true that such a simple test
would catch so much SPAM.

I'm running Imail 8.15 on 2003.  Below is a copy of my declude test
actions:

#  RBL IP4R TESTS OUTBOUND


BLITZEDALL  WARN
CBL WARN
DSBLWARN
ORDBWARN
MXRATE-ALLOWWARN
MXRATE-BLOCKWARN
MXRATE-SUSPICIOUS   WARN
SBL WARN
SORBS-HTTP  WARN
SORBS-SOCKS WARN
SORBS-MISC  WARN
SORBS-SMTP  WARN
SORBS-SPAM  WARN
SORBS-WEB   WARN
SORBS-BLOCK WARN
SORBS-ZOMBIEWARN
SORBS-DUHL  WARN
SPAMCOP WARN
BONDEDSENDERWARN

#  ADDITIONAL RBL IP4R TESTS OUTBOUND


#MTLDB  WARN
CSMA-SBLWARN
INTERSILWARN
SPAMBAG WARN
FIVETENSRC  WARN
JAMMDNSBL   WARN

#  RHBSL  TESTS OUTBOUND


DSN WARN
NOABUSE WARN
NOPOSTMASTERWARN

MAILPOLICE-BULK WARN
MAILPOLICE-PORN WARN
MAILPOLICE-FRAUDWARN

# OTHER  TESTS OUTBOUND


BADHEADERS  WARN
BASE64  WARN
BCC WARN
CMDSPACEWARN
COMMENTSWARN
DYNHELO WARN
ENCODEDURL  WARN
HELOBOGUS   WARN
IPURL   WARN
MAILFROMWARN
PERCENT HOLD
REVDNS  WARN
ROUTING WARN
SPAMHEADERS WARN
SPFFAIL WARN
SPFPASS WARN
SUBJECTSPACES   WARN
SUBJECTCHARSWARN

#NONENGLISH WARN

#  FILTERS OUTBOUND


#SUBJECTWARN
#WORD   WARN

#  3RD PARTY OUTBOUND


#SNIFFERWARN
#SPAMCHKWARN
#INV-URIBL  WARN

#   TRIGGERS OUTBOUND


WEIGHT10WARN
WEIGHT14WARN
WEIGHT20WARN

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Forwarding

2005-05-06 Thread David Barker
It depends a few factors:

1. If you have the PRO version you have the ability to do outbound scanning
2. If you are using WHITELIST   AUTH or Whitelisting your domains or
Whitelisting your IP anything originating from your domain will not be
stopped.
3. Declude can be configured to catch spam on your outbound mail.

David B
www.declude.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Clausen
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:39 PM
To: Declude JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Forwarding

This is probably a fairly stupid question, but I was wondering whether or
not if you forwarded a local user to another external address (ie. 
Yahoo or AOL) would Declude still catch spam via the accounts's junkmail
file?

--
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Custom Filter Diagnosis Help

2005-05-13 Thread David Barker
It can be a good idea to take into account the IPNOTINMX and NOLEGITCONTENT
which can bring down the weight under the threshold because this is a total
of -8 I set the SKIPIFWEIGHT 8 points higher. Eg. I mark on WEIGHT15
SUBJECT so I use SKIPIFWEIGHT   23

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:11 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Custom Filter Diagnosis Help

Kim, 

Keep in mind SKIPIFWEIGHT is a very good thing as it saves resources by
not processing the filter file if the weight is at or above the line.  I
would leave it, but just set it at a weight where you know the message is
SPAM and do not want to expend the resources on the filter file. 

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Kim Premuda writes: 

Are you using anything like SKIPIFWEIGHT options in the filter or ENDS

clauses. 
  
 
 Yes, this particular custom filter has the following two lines at the
beginning of the filter definition: 
 
  TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS BYPASS 
 
  SKIPIFWEIGHT 16 
 
 BYPASS never shows up in the line of filter tests, so SKIPIFWEIGHT may be
the culprit. I'll comment out the SKIPIFWEIGHT line and see what happens
(most likely, my misunderstanding of how SKIPIFWEIGHT works). 
 
 Thanks for the help! 
 
 
 --
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 FastWave Internet Services
 San Diego, CA 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SO OT its' almost embarrasing: How to get in touch with Yahoo?

2005-05-13 Thread David Barker
Title: SO OT its' almost embarrasing: How to get in touch with Yahoo?



Sharyn,

I do not think there is anything they will do to change the 
search engine rankings. The only way I would think you could resolve this is to 
ensure your website ranks higher using legitimate SEO 
techniques.

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn 
SchmidtSent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:09 PMTo: 
IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.comCc: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] SO OT its' 
almost embarrasing: How to get in touch with Yahoo?

Hi, 
When one does a search on yahoo for Todhunter 
International, a company and their URL that is not affiliated with us is being 
returned.
My CEO wants me to ensure the reference to this 
company is removed when doing a yahoo search for Todhunter 
International.
I don't know know where to begin. 
I have been all over yahoo's site, but any "contact 
us" or help link, is just an automated help engine, with no link to a real 
person.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SO OT its' almost embarrasing: How to get in touch with Yahoo?

2005-05-13 Thread David Barker
Title: Message



Can you give the URL so we can see what site you are 
talking about. Also there is NO way Yahoo is going to reallytell you why 
they are listed, search engine listings are a highly guarded 
secret.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn 
SchmidtSent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:31 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SO OT 
its' almost embarrasing: How to get in touch with Yahoo?



  I do not think there is anything they will do to change 
  the search engine rankings. The only way I would think you could resolve this 
  is to ensure your website ranks higher using legitimate SEO 
  techniques.
  
  
  
  I would settle for just 
  speaking to someone to find out WHY it's coming up on a search. This company 
  does not use our name, there is no reference to it on their website, no reason 
  for it to appear on a search for Todhunter International. Matter of fact, the 
  words that are highlighted in the summary blurb dont mention Todhunter at all 
  
  
  
  "todhunter international 
  Interstate Sales of New Jersey, LLC. is a consortium of 
  food industry professionals with over 120 years of diversified experience. ... 
  economic restraint are necessary. Interstate Sales of New Jersey can bring ... 
  Copyright  2002 INTERSTATE SALES OF NEW JERSEY ...
  
  Why would that 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Tests for only one domain

2005-06-15 Thread David Barker
Try adding the following line to the filter (which basically says do not run
this filter if the recipients domain is not listed)

ALLRECIPS   END NOTCONTAINS @domain.com

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heimir Eidskrem
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:55 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Tests for only one domain

Hey,

I have a customer that wants to filter on certain words.
I did create the filter and it works but my question is this:
Since I now have a new test in the global.cfg file, the test is ran for
every email and every domain.
That seems to be a waste of resources.

Any way I can run this test ONLY for the domain?

Also, they want to block all free mail providers like hotmail,yahoo, etc.
I assume I just make another filter for that but again I will be running
filters on emails that does not need to be filtered.

Would it be better just to add a Imail rule to block the domains?
Does the Imail rules allows this: @hotmail.com?

H.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Un-Obfuscating Subjects

2005-07-08 Thread David Barker
 Dan,

You can use a base64 decoder
http://www.opinionatedgeek.com/dotnet/tools/Base64Decode/Default.aspx

=?iso-8859-1?B?SG9ybnkgcGlsbHMgLSA3NSUgT0ZG?=  is Horny pills - 75% OFF

Trim the string down to SG9ybnkgcGlsbHMgLSA3NSUgT0ZG

David B
www.declude.com

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Un-Obfuscating Subjects

Hello, All,
When reviewing caught spam I usually have a handful of messages with
subjects that are obfuscated.  I know they aren't really obfuscated but
instead are using a different encoding.

Does anyone have a web site or tool where I could go and drop in the text,
e.g...

 =?iso-8859-1?B?SG9ybnkgcGlsbHMgLSA3NSUgT0ZG?=

so I can see exactly what the user would be seeing if the e-mail actually
made it all the way to the e-mail client?

Thanks In Advance,
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering

2005-07-25 Thread David Barker




Kevin,Please email me a copy of your global.cfg with the filter you 
are using as well as the email body and header of the email that did not trigger 
the test and I will have a look at it. dbarker @ 
declude.comThanksDavid Bwww.declude.com

  From: Kevin Bilbee 


  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:16 
AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter 
  not triggering
  
  Well 
  that would explain why many of my filters are not as effective as they used to 
  be. Has Declude announced when the fix will be 
  available
  
  
  
  Kevin Bilbee
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of John 
CarterSent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:05 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: 
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering
I have reported to Declude a problem with the 
"CONTAINS" statement. Prior to 2.0.6 (or somewhere around 
there)it worked oncharacter match, but after an upgrade to 
Declude it only works on a word match. (In other words you could not longer 
match on a string of characters within a word.) This would affect your 
situation.

I believe the fix is caught up in the wait for the 
newest version (the one they are testing now.)

John


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin 
BilbeeSent: Monday, July 25, 2005 9:10 AMTo: JunkMail 
DecludeSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not 
triggering

The attached email is not getting trapped by my 
STOCKFILTER??? Here are the log lines. They do not indicate any issues with 
the STOCKFILTER. In the STOCKFILTER this line should be hitting

BODY 10CONTAINS (OTC:
Any idea why this email is not triggering this 
line and assigning 10 points Could declude not be decoding the 
BASE64 This also seems to be an intermittent issue!


07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter 
HELOFILTER: Not skipping E-mail due to current weight of 2.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter VIRUSTRAP: Not skipping E-mail due to 
current weight of 2.07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter 
REVDNSFILTER: Not skipping E-mail due to current weight of 2.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 19.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 13.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 14.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 5.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter STOCKFILTER: Not skipping E-mail due to 
current weight of 2.07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set 
max weight to 15.07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter 
BODYFILTER: Not skipping E-mail due to current weight of 2.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 NOABUSE:2 . Total weight = 2.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Using [incoming] CFG file 
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.07/24/2005 19:57:36 
Q551E097C0333 Redirecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to file 
D:\Imail\declude\junkmailfiles\standardabrasives.com.junkmail.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed NOABUSE ("Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]"). Action="">07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary encoded text or HTML 
section was found in this E-mail.). Action="">07/24/2005 19:57:36 
Q551E097C0333 L1 Message OK07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 
Subject: Stocks in Play07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 200.182.78.150 ID: M2005072419564304108

07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Tests 
failed [weight=2]: NOABUSE=WARN BASE64=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE 07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Action(s) taken for [copyall_account] = IGNORE 
WARN [LAST ACTION="">07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Using 
[incoming] CFG file D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Redirecting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
to file 
D:\Imail\declude\junkmailfiles\standardabrasives.com.junkmail.07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed NOABUSE ("Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]"). Action="">07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary encoded text or HTML 
section was found in this E-mail.). Action="">07/24/2005 19:57:36 
Q551E097C0333 L2 Message OK07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 
Subject: Stocks in Play07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
IP: 200.182.78.150 ID: M2005072419564304108

07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Tests 
failed [weight=2]: NOABUSE=WARN BASE64=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE 07/24/2005 
19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Action(s) taken for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] = IGNORE WARN [LAST 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering

2005-07-26 Thread David Barker
Kevin,
 
After reviewing your files you had sent me this is the problem you are
having:
 
1. The email you received was encoded in BASE64 (Msg failed BASE64)
 
2. In your global.cfg you have the following directive:
 
DECODE  OFF
 
Therefore your STOCKFILTER did not trigger - as nowhere in the encoded text
of the email is the following phrase (OTC:
 
In order for your filters to work on encoded messages I would suggest
commenting out #DECODE  OFF
 
David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:10 AM
To: JunkMail Declude
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering


The attached email is not getting trapped by my STOCKFILTER??? Here are the
log lines. They do not indicate any issues with the STOCKFILTER. In the
STOCKFILTER this line should be hitting
 
BODY 10 CONTAINS (OTC:

Any idea why this email is not triggering this line and assigning 10
points Could declude not be decoding the BASE64 This also seems to
be an intermittent issue!
 
 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter HELOFILTER: Not skipping E-mail
due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter VIRUSTRAP: Not skipping E-mail
due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter REVDNSFILTER: Not skipping
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 19.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 13.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 14.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 5.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter STOCKFILTER: Not skipping
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 15.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter BODYFILTER: Not skipping E-mail
due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 NOABUSE:2 .  Total weight = 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Using [incoming] CFG file
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Redirecting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to file
D:\Imail\declude\junkmailfiles\standardabrasives.com.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary encoded
text or HTML section was found in this E-mail.). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 L1 Message OK
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Subject: Stocks in Play
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 200.182.78.150 ID:
M2005072419564304108
 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Tests failed [weight=2]: NOABUSE=WARN
BASE64=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Action(s) taken for [copyall_account]
= IGNORE WARN  [LAST ACTION=WARN]
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Using [incoming] CFG file
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Redirecting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to file
D:\Imail\declude\junkmailfiles\standardabrasives.com.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed NOABUSE (Not supporting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary encoded
text or HTML section was found in this E-mail.). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 L2 Message OK
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Subject: Stocks in Play
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP: 200.182.78.150 ID: M2005072419564304108
 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Tests failed [weight=2]: NOABUSE=WARN
BASE64=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Action(s) taken for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] = IGNORE WARN  [LAST ACTION=WARN]
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Cumulative action(s) taken on this
email = IGNORE WARN  [LAST ACTION=WARN]

 
 
Kevin Bilbee

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering

2005-07-26 Thread David Barker
Nick,

I am not aware of any bugs with the CONTAINS filter statement.

However there are some items on our wish list, currently CONTAINS  searches
for a string eg. ABC

So this will trigger XXXABCXXX

Currently there is not a way to use CONTAINS with SPACEABC as the config
file does not see the space as in

BODY10  CONTAINSSPACEABC

Because we allow for spaces between CONTAINS and the text. We are looking
into providing a way where you can include spaces such as:

BODY10  CONTAINS ABC

*Please note SPACE is not syntax it is just there so you can see the space
I am talking about :)

David B
www.declude.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:19 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering

Hi David,

Are you aware of any bugs with the CONTAINS filter statement?

Thanks!

-Nick


David Barker wrote:

Kevin,
 
After reviewing your files you had sent me this is the problem you are
having:
 
1. The email you received was encoded in BASE64 (Msg failed BASE64)
 
2. In your global.cfg you have the following directive:
 
DECODE  OFF
 
Therefore your STOCKFILTER did not trigger - as nowhere in the encoded 
text of the email is the following phrase (OTC:
 
In order for your filters to work on encoded messages I would suggest 
commenting out #DECODE  OFF
 
David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:10 AM
To: JunkMail Declude
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter not triggering


The attached email is not getting trapped by my STOCKFILTER??? Here are 
the log lines. They do not indicate any issues with the STOCKFILTER. In 
the STOCKFILTER this line should be hitting
 
BODY 10 CONTAINS (OTC:

Any idea why this email is not triggering this line and assigning 10 
points Could declude not be decoding the BASE64 This also seems 
to be an intermittent issue!
 
 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter HELOFILTER: Not skipping 
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter VIRUSTRAP: Not skipping 
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter REVDNSFILTER: Not skipping 
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 19.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 13.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 14.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 5.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter STOCKFILTER: Not skipping 
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter: Set max weight to 15.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Filter BODYFILTER: Not skipping 
E-mail due to current weight of 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 NOABUSE:2 .  Total weight = 2.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Using [incoming] CFG file 
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Redirecting 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to file 
D:\Imail\declude\junkmailfiles\standardabrasives.com.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed NOABUSE (Not 
supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary 
encoded text or HTML section was found in this E-mail.). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 L1 Message OK
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Subject: Stocks in Play
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 200.182.78.150 ID:
M2005072419564304108
 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Tests failed [weight=2]: 
NOABUSE=WARN BASE64=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Action(s) taken for 
[copyall_account] = IGNORE WARN  [LAST ACTION=WARN]
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Using [incoming] CFG file 
D:\IMAIL\Declude\$default$.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Redirecting 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to file 
D:\Imail\declude\junkmailfiles\standardabrasives.com.junkmail.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed NOABUSE (Not 
supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Msg failed BASE64 (A binary 
encoded text or HTML section was found in this E-mail.). Action=WARN.
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 L2 Message OK
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Subject: Stocks in Play
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP: 200.182.78.150 ID: M2005072419564304108
 
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Tests failed [weight=2]: 
NOABUSE=WARN BASE64=WARN IPNOTINMX=IGNORE
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Action(s) taken for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] = IGNORE WARN  [LAST ACTION=WARN]
07/24/2005 19:57:36 Q551E097C0333 Cumulative action(s

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...

2005-07-26 Thread David Barker
Chuck,

Send me your global.cfg and $default$.junkmail that I can have a look to see
if there are additional tests that we can use, to help increase scoring on
spam.

David B
dbarker @ declude.com 
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:57 PM
To: Declude. JunkMail
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...

In the last several months we have seen large quantity of spam coming from
IP blocks that never seem to get listed on any RBL.  Spamcop is about the
only one that picks some of them up and once in awhile spamhaus.  There was
a block last night that sent several hundred and sendbase.org showed they
had detected no email from that block.

The reason I bring this up is because when we first started blocking spam I
would say the blacklists would catch almost 90% so we relied heavily on the
blacklist.  With the blacklists not being as effective we need to rely on
other tests like sniffer but that misses alot also.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
(303)-421-5140
www.warp8.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Fix/Update Above 2.0.6 ?

2005-07-26 Thread David Barker
We have identified compatibility issues with Imail version 8.20 and all
versions of Declude. A new release of Declude is in the works and we are
currently entering into volume testing. This release is our highest
priority.

David B
www.declude.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Avolve Support
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:51 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Fix/Update Above 2.0.6 ?

Any word on the fix to stop the errors that have been cropping up with 2.0.6
and beta .16 with the latest Imail versions ? 





Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net


 
   
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RE: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...

2005-07-27 Thread David Barker
Hi David,

If possible you should use the IPBYPASS rather than the HOP

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:27 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...

That's a question for Declude.
Throw the test in with no weight and a WARN action and see what happens is
what I would do.
- Original Message -
From: David Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:09 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...



 SF The new Declude test
 SF HELO-DYNAMIC  dynhelo  x x 50 0

 Any issues with this test if Declude is behind a Postfix gateway with 
 HOP set to 1?

 --
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 Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...

2005-07-27 Thread David Barker
David,

Either configuration in your case should work. However from Scott's Perry
comments regarding the HOP and IPBYPASS.

Normally, you will leave the HOP setting at HOP 0, and use an IPBYPASS
line for each gateway or backup mail server.
6.2 Skipping your backup mail server or gateways

Just thought I would mention it. As it was suggested to test HELO-DYNAMIC
using the WARN action.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Sullivan
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 1:45 PM
To: David Barker
Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] RBL's becoming worthless...



DB If possible you should use the IPBYPASS rather than the HOP

Any particular reason? ALL mail passes through the PF gateways first.
Imail/Declude can't be touched from any outside network. The only port
25 allowed into their LAN segment is from the segment that the PF gateways
are on.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail]

2005-08-26 Thread David Barker
 Ping.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed up

2005-08-30 Thread David Barker
Thanks for the feedback.

I have posted decludeproc.exe 3.0.12 which should take care of the issue of
decludeproc stopping on its own.

Also remember you can increase the number of THREADS in your declude.cfg,
the default is 5 you should be able to move this up to 25 quite easily or
even double it to 50 if you have a dual CPU etc. Remember you will need to
stop/start the decludeproc.exe service if you make a change to your
declude.cfg

David B
www.declude.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:23 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed up

OK, I sent a message to the list this morning, went into an hourlong meeting
and came back out to find that the message hadn't posted to the list yet.
Also people were complaining about their email not working.
I found that the Decludeproc service had stopped on its own.  The event log
shows event 7031: The Decludeproc service terminated unexpectedly.
It has done this 1 time(s).

I restarted the service and took a look in the proc folder.  There were 4500
objects in the folder.  I kept watch for about 15 minutes on those objects,
but Declude couldn't make headway on it with the new mail coming in.  It
would go down by 1 or 2 then back up by 1 or 2 but always stayed around the
same number of messages.  I have currently reverted back to 1.82, and have
left the Decludeproc service running so that it can clear out those
messages.  It is going VERY slowly, though.  I mean like 25 messages per
minute slow, if that.  Declude 1.82 goes through messages much faster, in my
experience monitoring (for instance) the overflow directory.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed up

2005-08-30 Thread David Barker
The version number is derived from the decludeproc.exe

All functionality that existed in 2.0.6.16 should be in Declude 3.0 the main
diffence is that fact that we have a decludeproc.exe which now runs as a
service.

I am not sure exactly what you are asking, could you be more specific as to
your question regarding 2.0.6.16 ?

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed
up

David -

Would you kindly confirm exactly what version of Declude this 3.0 beta is
derived from? Is it  2.0.6.16  ?

Thanks

-Nick


David Barker wrote:

Thanks for the feedback.

I have posted decludeproc.exe 3.0.12 which should take care of the 
issue of decludeproc stopping on its own.

Also remember you can increase the number of THREADS in your 
declude.cfg, the default is 5 you should be able to move this up to 25 
quite easily or even double it to 50 if you have a dual CPU etc. 
Remember you will need to stop/start the decludeproc.exe service if you 
make a change to your declude.cfg

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:23 AM
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files 
backed up

OK, I sent a message to the list this morning, went into an hourlong 
meeting and came back out to find that the message hadn't posted to the
list yet.
Also people were complaining about their email not working.
I found that the Decludeproc service had stopped on its own.  The event 
log shows event 7031: The Decludeproc service terminated unexpectedly.
It has done this 1 time(s).

I restarted the service and took a look in the proc folder.  There were 
4500 objects in the folder.  I kept watch for about 15 minutes on those 
objects, but Declude couldn't make headway on it with the new mail 
coming in.  It would go down by 1 or 2 then back up by 1 or 2 but 
always stayed around the same number of messages.  I have currently 
reverted back to 1.82, and have left the Decludeproc service running so 
that it can clear out those messages.  It is going VERY slowly, though.  
I mean like 25 messages per minute slow, if that.  Declude 1.82 goes 
through messages much faster, in my experience monitoring (for instance)
the overflow directory.

Dan Horne
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed up

2005-08-30 Thread David Barker
Just as a note, sometimes the decludeproc.exe can take a while to shut down
as it has to clear out all the threads and wait on messages it is still
processing - perhaps waiting for a virus scan to finish etc. 

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:13 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed
up

David Barker  wrote on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:42 AM:

 Thanks for the feedback.
 
 I have posted decludeproc.exe 3.0.12 which should take care of the 
 issue of decludeproc stopping on its own.
 
 Also remember you can increase the number of THREADS in your 
 declude.cfg, the default is 5 you should be able to move this up to
 25 quite easily or even double it to 50 if you have a dual CPU etc.
 Remember you will need to stop/start the decludeproc.exe service if
 you make a change to your declude.cfg

It has now been an hour and the decludeproc service has only processed
around 1000 objects, which I believe corresponds to 500 messages.  I created
the declude.cfg and put in THREADS 25.  I also dl'ed the newer
decludeproc.exe, but when I went to stop the service so I could replace it,
the service would not stop.  I had to set it to manual startup and reboot
the server (@#$#%* Windows).  We'll see if this improves the speed any.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed up

2005-08-30 Thread David Barker
Nick,

1. I am not aware of any functionality that is in 2.0.6.16 that does not
work in Declude Beta 3.0 

2. All the functionality that was in 2.0.6.16 is included in Declude 3.0
Beta

3. All the functionality that was in 2.0.6.16 should work in Declude 3.0
Beta, but this is the reason for a Beta - to identify any possible issues
that may come up because of different operating environments.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed
up

should is my question. I was just looking for a confirmation as to what I
would be changing to.
-Nick

David Barker wrote:

All functionality that existed in 2.0.6.16 should be in Declude 3.0 
Beta the main difference is that fact that we have a decludeproc.exe 
which now runs as a service.

David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:31 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files 
backed up


Hi David -

David Barker wrote: 

   I am not sure exactly what you are asking, could you be more
specific 
as to
   your question regarding 2.0.6.16 ?
 

well the release ver is I believe 2.0.6 and the interim is 2.0.6.16. My 
question was does the 3.0 beta have the 2.0.6.16 interim features included.

Thanks -

-Nick


   David B
   www.declude.com
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
   Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:48 AM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own,
files 
backed
   up
   
   David -
   
   Would you kindly confirm exactly what version of Declude this 3.0
beta 
is
   derived from? Is it  2.0.6.16  ?
   
   Thanks
   
   -Nick
   
   
   David Barker wrote:
   
 

   Thanks for the feedback.
   
   I have posted decludeproc.exe 3.0.12 which should take care
of the
   issue of decludeproc stopping on its own.
   
   Also remember you can increase the number of THREADS in your

   declude.cfg, the default is 5 you should be able to move
this up to 
25
   quite easily or even double it to 50 if you have a dual CPU
etc.
   Remember you will need to stop/start the decludeproc.exe
service if 
you
   make a change to your declude.cfg
   
   David B
   www.declude.com
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Horne
   Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:23 AM
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own,
files
   backed up
   
   OK, I sent a message to the list this morning, went into an
hourlong
   meeting and came back out to find that the message hadn't
posted to 
the
   

   list yet.
 

   Also people were complaining about their email not
working.
   I found that the Decludeproc service had stopped on its own.
The event 
   log shows event 7031: The Decludeproc service terminated 
unexpectedly.
   It has done this 1 time(s).
   
   I restarted the service and took a look in the proc folder.
There were 
   4500 objects in the folder.  I kept watch for about 15
minutes on 
those
   objects, but Declude couldn't make headway on it with the
new mail
   coming in.  It would go down by 1 or 2 then back up by 1 or
2 but 
   always stayed around the same number of messages.  I have
currently
   reverted back to 1.82, and have left the Decludeproc service
running 
so
   that it can clear out those messages.  It is going VERY
slowly, 
though.
   I mean like 25 messages per minute slow, if that.  Declude
1.82 goes 
   through messages much faster, in my experience monitoring
(for 
instance)
   

   the overflow directory.
 

   Dan Horne
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed up

2005-08-30 Thread David Barker
I will be posting a new decludeproc.exe Beta 3.0.21 before the end of today.

The new one should:

* take care of the orphaned files in the proc directory
* improve on performance 
* deal with the sm$ files

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 1:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] D3: Service stopped on its own, files backed
up

Nick Hayer  wrote on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:57 AM:

 Dan,
 
 Do you believe  the slowness you are experiencing is for sure related 
 to this decludeproc.exe [will this work on any declude ver?] or maybe 
 other causes unrelated like dns issue or a traffic spike?
 
 -Nick
 
No definitely not dns or traffic spike.  I just actually went through my
config last week and cleaned it up by disabling a bunch of tests that
weren't catching anything.  I also made sure that all the dnsbl's were
responding.  I just checked again and they are all doing fine.  My DNS
server is responding well.  I was having some problems with sniffer a couple
weeks ago but that is taken care of.  No as of last Tuesday I was extremely
happy with the speed of my Declude config.  My tests today don't show
anything abnormal like dns failures or abnormal traffic levels.  

Anyway I went away to lunch and came back and found that it is pretty much
cleared up.  However there are now 27 orphaned D files in the proc
directory. 5 of them have extension sm$ and the rest are smd.  What can I do
about these?

Also on another issue, Hijack caught around 40 something messages to Declude
all saying something like Installed on mail.taisweb.net.  They were all
from IP address 127.0.0.1.  I did an allowip for that in order to let them
go, but what is up with the massive amount of emails, Declude guys?  And why
is your own software blocking it?

Dan Horne
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] General Filter

2005-08-31 Thread David Barker
You could try adding the following or something similar at the beginning of
your filter

BODYEND CONTAINSContent-Transfer-Encoding: base64

Or instead of END a -10 depending n the values in your filter.

David B
www.declude.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Wells
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:11 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] General Filter

I am having a problem with a client whose email to other members of her
domain is getting trapped by the GeneralFilter (words or phrases we have
added because they seem to mostly appear in spam).  In this particular case
the triggering word seems to be P*O*R*N* without the stars.

I suspect what is happening is that the encoded attached word document just
happens to have this set of letters in sequence in the encrypted data that
is attached to the email file in imail.  It does not appear in the word
document itself.  But when I look at the raw file on the server I can see
this.

I take it from this that Declude when it scans the body of the message also
scans any attachment that is sitting there in the encrypted mode.  If so is
there a way around this?  Can I tell it not to scan the encrypted
attachments or to expand them first?  If this sort of thing is in the latest
Declude Junkmail manual, someone just tell me to read TFM.







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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Why did this fail reverse DNS

2005-09-07 Thread David Barker
Sharyn,
 
1. What is the test you have defined for 10-REVDNS ?
2. Do you have WHITELIST  AUTH enabled in your global.cfg ?
 
David B
www.declude.com



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Why did this fail reverse DNS



Good afternoon, 

Something really odd is going on here. 

All of a sudden, my own users are failing tests that they were passing last
month. 

Here is the spam attachment that Declude adds to our emails, if the weight
is 10. 

You **MAY** have spam! 

Subject:RE: Shakka  Applebees --  Beverage Optimization Initiative 
-District Test **URGENT MESSAGE** 
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Tests Failed:   10-REVDNS, CMDSPACE, SUBJECTSPACES, SUBJECTCHARS, 
WEIGHT10-D02010098024AB4E6.SMD 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is one of MY users. 

Why in the world did this fail revdns? 

According to DNS report: 

Your 1 MX record is:
10 mail.cruzaninc.com. [TTL=3600] IP=24.73.160.163 [TTL=3600] [US]

163.160.73.24.in-addr.arpa mail.cruzaninc.com.
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=24.73.160.163  
Thanks, 
Sharyn 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with imail 8.21???

2005-09-07 Thread David Barker
Declude Beta 3.0 is available which works with Imail 8.20+ if you have a
valid service agreement this can be downloaded from our website from the My
Account Home Page when you log in.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:36 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with imail
8.21???

I really don't want to downgrade imail, but spam and viruses are getting
through. Any hope for having declude working with imail 8.21 any time soon?

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Server Running at 100%

2005-09-08 Thread David Barker
In your virus.cfg file:
 
AVAFTERJM ON
 
Also ensure that you have the directive:
 
PRESCANON
 
David B
www.declude.com



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:56 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Server Running at 100%
Importance: High


I was told to see if using AVAFTERJM would help on resources on my
server...right now I almost dead in the water..my server is cralling to send
mailhow do I use this command...exactly how does it go into the config..

Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet


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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:21 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spam box

Is there a box I can put in front of my Imail server that will help
take some of the load off of the spam filtering that Declude is doing

Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with imail8.21???

2005-09-08 Thread David Barker



Dan,

What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have 
not seen the behavior you are referring to.
David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan 
HorneSent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there 
any hope running Declude with imail8.21???

Yes, we justtoday reverted back to 1.82 because our 
single-processor machine backed up. At the worst there was an hour delay 
in delivery. I specifically denoted it was a single-processor machine just 
to indicate that our problems would not be related to the multi-processor sleep 
problems. It just doesn't seem able to handle the load that 1.82 
does. And yes, we have increased our THREADS to 25. 


Also, they claim to have fixed a problem with leftover 
files, but after swapping out the Declude executable with 1.82 and leaving the 
Decludeproc service running, 24 files are still stranded in the 
"spool\proc\work" directory and there are 9 *.vir directories still in there 
(they are truly stranded, even the 24 files comprise 12 paired q and d files 
they are not being delivered for several hours with the Decludeproc service 
still running. I am going to have to move them back into the spool 
directory manually). The Decludeproc service has NOT stopped running at 
all in theseveral days it has been running, so I don't know why the files 
are stranded. I just tried restarting it to see if I could "wake it up", 
but it didn't give me any love. Looking at the dates, I see one q/d pair 
from Sep 2, several from Sep 7 and the2 pairfrom today. Each 
one of these represents a "lost" email. I opened afew and didn't 
find any of them to be spam. The one thing I can't abide is "lost" email, 
so I had to stop our beta test.






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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
MattSent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:11 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there 
any hope running Declude with imail8.21???
IMail 8.20+ is only compatible with Declude 3+, but that software is 
still in early beta and I wouldn't recommend it. This combination can 
work, but it appears that the higher the volume you have, the more likely you 
are to experience serious issues with E-mail backing up. I have been using 
IMail 8.15 HF2 for many months without any new issues, and it works very well 
with Declude 2.0.6.16 (the most recent interim release) which also doesn't have 
any new issues. The newer Declude 3.0 that is in beta is basically the 
same in terms of functionality, but it is changed to act as a service in order 
to resolve issues with the changes in IMail 8.20+ and also increase performance 
slightly. This is a big change for Declude, and building a service to 
handle E-mail reliably isn't a small feat so I would suggest being patient in 
the mean time.MattTimothy Bohen wrote: 
Oh ouch, thats embarrising, you could have sent this off list!!! :) I KNOW I didnt change that path, is there any chance upgrading to 8.21 somehow changed it? 

So anyway, now that I downgraded already, should I go to 8.21 again or are there problems with declude? I'm not crazy about running a beta version of declude.

Thanks



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Date:  Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:28:41 -0400

  
  
I gave up and downgraded to 8.15 now I'm getting:
09:07 15:08 SMTPD(CP) error 3 executing "c:\imail\Declude.exe" 
  "D:\IMAIL\spool\Q3ab90041008c0e76.SMD"

It looks like you set up Declude to run in C:\IMail, but you run IMail 
on D:\IMail.  :)
  -Scott
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with imail8.21???

2005-09-08 Thread David Barker
Dan,
 
1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of earlier
versions of Declude.
2. We have never seen an long delay in the processing of email and no one
else has reported this.
3. As mentioned on the Beta page there are still issues with orphan files
due to Hijack, but this is because the hijack is moving the email to the
HOLD2 folder and leaving files behind, these email should not be legitimate.
4. The only other reasons we are aware of for orphan files is - if the files
already exist in the location (eg Spam folder) then the files cannot be
moved from the \work directory to that location.
5. In order to find the cause please send us your log files / copy of an
orphaned email / config files for us to look at the situation ?
6. In addition to the lists, in future it would be a good idea to email us
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with issues you are experiencing so we can deal with
them promptly.

Thanks
David B
www.declude.com
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???


3.0.3.  Mail has backed up repeatedly since installing this version.  We
originally installed 3.0 when it was released, but quickly backed off that
when the service stopped on its own, leaving multiple files in the proc
directory.  After waiting a while, we got an email about 3.0.3 being
released which seemed to specifically target the problems we had, so we
again immediately installed that version (on Sep 2).  The results were OK
until the weekend when mail piled up for an unknown reason.  We just waited
that one out, and the next one which occurred Monday afternoon.  The one
from yesterday though caused an hour-long delay in email delivery.  Today
the decision was made to cease the beta test and revert back to 1.82.  The
change was made this morning at around 9:00 AM EST, and the files I noted
are still in the work directory now, 5 hours later.
 
I just want to note that the same server never backs up running 1.82.  I
notice that there is now a version 3.0.3.4, but we of course haven't tried
that version.  FWIW, we are using all three Declude products including
Hijack.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:04 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???


Dan,
 
What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have not seen the
behavior you are referring to.

David B
www.declude.com



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???


Yes, we just today reverted back to 1.82 because our single-processor
machine backed up.  At the worst there was an hour delay in delivery.  I
specifically denoted it was a single-processor machine just to indicate that
our problems would not be related to the multi-processor sleep problems.  It
just doesn't seem able to handle the load that 1.82 does.  And yes, we have
increased our THREADS to 25.  
 
Also, they claim to have fixed a problem with leftover files, but after
swapping out the Declude executable with 1.82 and leaving the Decludeproc
service running, 24 files are still stranded in the spool\proc\work
directory and there are 9 *.vir directories still in there (they are truly
stranded, even the 24 files comprise 12 paired q and d files they are not
being delivered for several hours with the Decludeproc service still
running.  I am going to have to move them back into the spool directory
manually).  The Decludeproc service has NOT stopped running at all in the
several days it has been running, so I don't know why the files are
stranded.  I just tried restarting it to see if I could wake it up, but it
didn't give me any love.  Looking at the dates, I see one q/d pair from Sep
2, several from Sep 7 and the 2 pair from today.  Each one of these
represents a lost email.  I opened a few and didn't find any of them to be
spam.  The one thing I can't abide is lost email, so I had to stop our
beta test.
 
 
 
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:11 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???


IMail 8.20+ is only compatible with Declude 3+, but that software is still
in early beta and I wouldn't recommend it.  This combination can work, but
it appears that the higher the volume you have, the more likely you are to
experience serious issues with E-mail backing up.  I have been using IMail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with imail8.21???

2005-09-08 Thread David Barker
Andrew,

Thanks for the suggestion. I have passed it on to our developers to look
into.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:03 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???

DB 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of
earlier versions of Declude.

Dave, at the top of my suggested list for new code in declude.exe has been
to do robust MIME decoding so that Declude PRO text filters no longer grind
the raw layer of attachments for spammy text.  That alone would make Declude
orders of magnitude faster, more accurate, and lighter on RAM.

Meanwhile, Matt's SizeOf.vbs and Scott's compiled version have been a great
stopgap for me.  If anybody out there is wondering what the heck I'm talking
about, check the archive for my posting of my SKIPATTACH test.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:54 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???
 
 Dan,
  
 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of 
 earlier versions of Declude.
 
 2. We have never seen an long delay in the processing of email and no 
 one else has reported this.
 
 3. As mentioned on the Beta page there are still issues with orphan 
 files due to Hijack, but this is because the hijack is moving the 
 email to the HOLD2 folder and leaving files behind, these email should 
 not be legitimate.
 
 4. The only other reasons we are aware of for orphan files is
 - if the files already exist in the location (eg Spam folder) then the 
 files cannot be moved from the \work directory to that location.
 
 5. In order to find the cause please send us your log files / copy of 
 an orphaned email / config files for us to look at the situation ?
 
 6. In addition to the lists, in future it would be a good idea to 
 email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with issues you are experiencing so we 
 can deal with them promptly.
 
 Thanks
 David B
 www.declude.com
  
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???
 
 
 3.0.3.  Mail has backed up repeatedly since installing this version.  
 We originally installed 3.0 when it was released, but quickly backed 
 off that when the service stopped on its own, leaving multiple files 
 in the proc directory.  After waiting a while, we got an email about 
 3.0.3 being released which seemed to specifically target the problems 
 we had, so we again immediately installed that version (on Sep 2).  
 The results were OK until the weekend when mail piled up for an 
 unknown reason.  We just waited that one out, and the next one which 
 occurred Monday afternoon.  The one from yesterday though caused an 
 hour-long delay in email delivery.  Today the decision was made to 
 cease the beta test and revert back to 1.82.  The change was made this 
 morning at around 9:00 AM EST, and the files I noted are still in the 
 work directory now, 5 hours later.
  
 I just want to note that the same server never backs up running 1.82.  
 I notice that there is now a version 3.0.3.4, but we of course haven't 
 tried that version.  FWIW, we are using all three Declude products 
 including Hijack.
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:04 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???
 
 
 Dan,
  
 What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have not seen 
 the behavior you are referring to.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???
 
 
 Yes, we just today reverted back to 1.82 because our single-processor 
 machine backed up.  At the worst there was an hour delay in delivery.  
 I specifically denoted it was a single-processor machine just to 
 indicate that our problems would not be related to the multi-processor 
 sleep problems.
 It just doesn't seem able to handle the load that 1.82 does.  
 And yes, we have increased our THREADS to 25.  
  
 Also, they claim to have fixed a problem with leftover files, but 
 after swapping out the Declude executable with 1.82 and leaving the 
 Decludeproc service running, 24 files are still

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with imail8.21???

2005-09-08 Thread David Barker
Scott,

We are very happy with the suggestions Declude users have made regarding
tests and improvements of Declude, as soon as we are done with the Declude
3.0 release the focus will be on these additions wrt to functionality.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:20 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???

Yeah, throw us Pro users a couple of bones!

- Original Message -
From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with
imail8.21???


DB 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of
earlier versions of Declude.

Dave, at the top of my suggested list for new code in declude.exe has been
to do robust MIME decoding so that Declude PRO text filters no longer grind
the raw layer of attachments for spammy text.  That alone would make Declude
orders of magnitude faster, more accurate, and lighter on RAM.

Meanwhile, Matt's SizeOf.vbs and Scott's compiled version have been a great
stopgap for me.  If anybody out there is wondering what the heck I'm talking
about, check the archive for my posting of my SKIPATTACH test.

Andrew 8)


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:54 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???

 Dan,

 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of 
 earlier versions of Declude.

 2. We have never seen an long delay in the processing of email and no 
 one else has reported this.

 3. As mentioned on the Beta page there are still issues with orphan 
 files due to Hijack, but this is because the hijack is moving the 
 email to the HOLD2 folder and leaving files behind, these email should 
 not be legitimate.

 4. The only other reasons we are aware of for orphan files is
 - if the files already exist in the location (eg Spam folder) then the 
 files cannot be moved from the \work directory to that location.

 5. In order to find the cause please send us your log files / copy of 
 an orphaned email / config files for us to look at the situation ?

 6. In addition to the lists, in future it would be a good idea to 
 email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with issues you are experiencing so we 
 can deal with them promptly.

 Thanks
 David B
 www.declude.com

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???


 3.0.3.  Mail has backed up repeatedly since installing this version.  
 We originally installed 3.0 when it was released, but quickly backed 
 off that when the service stopped on its own, leaving multiple files 
 in the proc directory.  After waiting a while, we got an email about 
 3.0.3 being released which seemed to specifically target the problems 
 we had, so we again immediately installed that version (on Sep 2).  
 The results were OK until the weekend when mail piled up for an 
 unknown reason.  We just waited that one out, and the next one which 
 occurred Monday afternoon.  The one from yesterday though caused an 
 hour-long delay in email delivery.  Today the decision was made to 
 cease the beta test and revert back to 1.82.  The change was made this 
 morning at around 9:00 AM EST, and the files I noted are still in the 
 work directory now, 5 hours later.

 I just want to note that the same server never backs up running 1.82.  
 I notice that there is now a version 3.0.3.4, but we of course haven't 
 tried that version.  FWIW, we are using all three Declude products 
 including Hijack.

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:04 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???


 Dan,

 What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have not seen 
 the behavior you are referring to.

 David B
 www.declude.com

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running Declude with 
 imail8.21???


 Yes, we just today reverted back to 1.82 because our single-processor 
 machine backed up.  At the worst there was an hour delay in delivery.  
 I specifically denoted it was a single-processor machine just to 
 indicate

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Major problem with External tests and Beta 3.0.3.4

2005-09-13 Thread David Barker
Hi John,

1. The only Beta that should currently be running is 3.0.3.7 you should not
be reverting to a previous version of the Beta at this point.

2. If you have to revert the best options would be 1.82 for Imail and
2.0.6.16 For SmarterMail

3. We have fixed the issue reported to us by Darrell regarding the external
test Message Sniffer incorrectly reporting the exit code as the weight when
timing out.

4. Your concern of the external tests working incorrectly is currently being
looked at and should have a response hopefully today.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:07 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Major problem with External tests and Beta
3.0.3.4
Importance: High

An update: There is a known problem with external tests and Declude 3.0.3.x.
They are aware of it and are working on it.

It is recommended if you are using an external program, you should revert to
a pre 3.x version for now.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
 Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:19 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Major problem with External tests and 
 Beta
3.0.3.4
 
 All tests finished within seconds.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell 
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:06 AM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Major problem with External tests 
  and
Beta
 3.0.3.4
 
  John,
 
  One of the other bugs I have seen is if a process takes more than 5
 minutes
  to complete and is configured as a weight test and Declude 
  terminates
it
  they use the OS result code of 259 as the returned weight instead 
  of defaulting to zero.
 
  Darrell
 
 
  John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes:
 
   FYI to all running the Beta, I have reviewed and verified a 
   problem
 brought
   to my attention by Kami.
  
   It appears that some times, even though the external test is 
   reporting
 an
   exit code of 0, DecludeJM is treating it as a fail and adding the
 configured
   weight.
  
   This goes for both positive weights like Sniffer and invURIBL and
 negative
   weights like AutoWhite for Declude.
  
   Declude support and beta have been notified.
  
   John T
   eServices For You
  
  
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  Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude 
  And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI 
  integration,
 MRTG
  Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.3.8 Available

2005-09-14 Thread David Barker
If you are running the Declude Beta please upgrade to 3.0.3.8 and send
feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
David B
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

2005-09-18 Thread David Barker

If Declude is reading this... To help comfort those who think we are not
paying attention. We read all posts and take notice of everything that is
said.

I will look at adding this to the Knowledge Base next week.

David Barker
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 12:11 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES

If Declude is reading this, maybe they could add these values to their
Knowledge Base.

http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=6KBSearchID=10
12

I also found a country code list that included some of the codes Scott
mentioned at the bottom of this page:

http://it.farmprogress.com/declude/declude.htm


  Original Message 
 From: Scott Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 4:15 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES
 
 Yes COUNTRIES 0 CONTAINS *A is correct.  The Asterick is a literal.
 
 codes I know of:
 *1 Multi-Regional
 *2 Europe
 *3 North America
 *4 Central/South America
 *5 Pacific Rim
 *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa)
 *B Public Data Network
 *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East)
 *I Private IP
 *L Loopback
 *M Multicast
 *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific)
 *R IANA Reserved
 *U Unknown
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:06 PM
 Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES
 
 
 I guess it depends on exactly what text it is searching for.  In looking
at 
 my log files (set to Debug), I see that when it is checking the COUNTRIES 
 filter I created, it displays a message like Checking countries:  *A .
Is 
 it actually looking for an asterisk followed by an A?  Here are some 
 non-countries and the corresponding text displayed in the log file:
 
 [ARIN Unlisted] *A
 [RIPE Unlisted] *E
 [IANA Reserved] *R
 [Unknown] *U
 
 Does this mean we should be using a line like
 
 COUNTRIES0CONTAINS*A
 
 Is that asterisk a literal or will it act as a wildcard?  Is anyone using 
 this in a country filter?
 
 
 
   Original Message 
  From: Nick Hayer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:36 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ROUTING and COUNTRIES
 
  Help from the guru's please...
 
  Wouldn't [shouldn't] this email fail the ROUTING test?
 
  X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-[IANA Reserved]-UNITED 
  STATES-destination
  X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: [No Reverse DNS]] [RemoteHostDomain:
  lgvsoft.at] [RemoteIP: 58.142.35.136] [SenderHost: lgvsoft.at]
  X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: IP4R.SORBS.DYNAMIC [0],
  EXTERNAL.CIP.OnlyIp [2], TEST.DYNHELO [5], TEST.REVDNS [0], FILTER.DYNA
  [5], FILTER.COMBO.DYNHELO.CIP [3]
 
  Also - is there a way to determine that this email came from/through a
  foreign [to the US] source?
  This email did not trigger on a foreign filter file that contains:
  COUNTRIES0CONTAINSIANA Reserved
 
  Same file has these than never trigger it seems either
  COUNTRIES0CONTAINSARIN Unlisted
  COUNTRIES0CONTAINSRIPE Unlisted
 
  Thanks!
 
  -Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread David Barker
Scott,

I agree, unfortunately I do not have that information at present, I have
requested this information from the engineers and will post it a soon as
this is available. 

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

I don't have the order... But I believe filters are done last after External
comments.

If David's monitoring the list,
I think a list of what order the tests run in would be a great addition to
the Junkmail manual.
- Original Message -
From: Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


We've been monitoring the MN-COMBO test (multiple tests failed) for the past
2 months.

Most are failing INV-URIBL and SNIFFER; but some only failing one of them
(either SNIFFER or INV-URIBL) but will fail DSBL/CBL/ROUTING/MXRATE.  We've
noticed that all the emails that we've monitored with the MN-COMBO that are
spam; have multiple country hops.  This is what we want to catch.  Deleting
based just on MN-COMBO will delete some false positives.  But detecting our
MN-COMBO test and then filtering the country hops will eliminate the false
positives as they all originate outside of USA and/or start in USA then
bounce to another country, then back to USA.

Does anyone know (Darrell); if the %COUNTRYCHAIN% can be passed to an
external program?  I've thought of developing an EXE that does this final
scan after MN-COMBO is tested.

TIA,
Erik


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 2:31 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


Just to second this - I have seen a large amount of customers also farm out
filtering to companies like big fish which scan the mail in oversea's
countries.

Darrell
 
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG

Integration, and Log Parsers.


Scott Fisher writes:

 I think this would do it in two filters:
 filter 1:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 COUNTRIES   100  NOTCONTAINS US

 filter 2:
 SKIPIFWEIGHT 100
 TESTSFAILED END NOTCONTAINS MN-COMBO
 TESTSFAILED END CONTAINS filter1
 COUNTRIES END STARTSWITH US
 COUNTRIES 100 CONTAINS US

 I'd be careful. Lots of US subsidaries are owned by a foreign company 
 and have their mail server overseas.
 Also watch out for these special country codes: (which can belong to 
 valid

 servers):
 #
 #  Special Codes
 #
 *1 Multi-Regional
 *2 Europe
 *3 North America
 *4 Central/South America
 *5 Pacific Rim
 *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South Africa) *B Public Data Network 
 *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, Middle East) *I Private IP *L 
 Loopback *M Multicast *P APNIC Unlisted (Asia Pacific) *R IANA 
 Reserved *U Unknown


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 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:45 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter


 Could someone help me in creating a filter?

 I need something to this effect.  Can this be done in one filter?



 If WEIGHT = 100 or Higher then END

 If TESTFAILED CONTAINS MN-COMBO Then
   If CountryChain NOTCONTAINS UNITED STATES Then
  Then DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

   If CountryChain CONTAINS UNITED STATES-destination Then
  'Email is probably good (return zero)
 Else
  DELETE (triggers the filter - return 100 as weight)
 End If

 End If

 Thanks!
 Erik

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

2005-09-19 Thread David Barker
Erik,

I have also asked the engineers to look into this for us, ie. A directive to
force tests to run in a specific order.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help in creating a Filter

It would be nice if there was a directive that forced the tests to run as
they are in the order of which the appear in the CONFIG file.  I know this
may/would be a performance decrease but it would give end users control of
external tests.

Erik


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Erik wrote:

If Declude could confirm the order of how/which tests are run, it would 
be nice to know.
  

I agree.

The archives may help but as I recall Scott [former of Declude] was nebulous
in what the order is. The only thing for sure was filters ran last in the
order listed in global.cfg listing - generally  :)

Running in debug mode does confirm this.

-Nick
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest ALL_LIST.DAT

2005-09-19 Thread David Barker
At this point the latest ALL_LIST.DAT (Monday, April 11, 2005) is currently
located here:

http://www.declude.com/version/release/all_list.dat

There will be a new ALL_LIST.DAT with the release of Declude 3.0

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest ALL_LIST.DAT

I think the ALL_LIST.DAT file is some sort of compressed list and not
accessible via an editor... right???

Anyway, I found have a link where I got it some time back.

http://www.declude.com/release/178/all_list.dat

I haven't updated our server with it yet, so I have no idea how recent it
is. Does anyone know if it's been updated recently?

~Joe

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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest ALL_LIST.DAT


I guess this would be the best source for current country codes:

http://www.iso.ch/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-lists/list
-en1.html

ARIN's list lets you break it down by region:

http://www.arin.net/community/countries.html



  Original Message 
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 Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:50 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest ALL_LIST.DAT

 Dan,

 This would make sense since ARIN just completed another round of 
 assignment
 of the BOGON's.

  
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
 Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
 MRTG
 Integration, and Log Parsers.


 Dan Geiser writes:

  Hello, All,
  I think it's possible that my ALL_LIST.DAT needs to be updated because 
  I'm
  starting to receive legit e-mails from Yahoo IPs that come up as ARIN
  Unlisted.  My current ALL_LIST.DAT is dated 4/08/2005.  Is there a newer
  copy that we can download somewhere?
 
  Thanks, Much!
  Dan Geiser
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-20 Thread David Barker
Travis not sure what you are asking with how to use a remove :)

1. To remove the external test just # comment out the test in your
global.cfg
2. To use spamassassin I would suggest using this plugin SPAMC32

http://www.imprimia.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release
/

David B
www.declude.com

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

I can't find documentation with regards to how to use a remove spamassassin
server as an external test in declude v 1.81.  Any  help will be much
appreciated.

Thanks!
Travis 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT

2005-09-22 Thread David Barker
John,

I have tried the Beta on NT4 it seemed to run ok the service etc worked. I
did not see any inherent problems, but then again this was not a detailed
test but rather I just wanted to see if it would run and it did.

David B
www.declude.com




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Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:55 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT

The Declude staff let me know that v3 won't work on WinNT, so I think I
can't delay the inevitable any longer. 

Just for fun, has anyone tried the v3 beta with IMail6 on WinNT? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
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Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:48 AM
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FYI, it appears the Beta may be wrapping up soon. So if you can, maybe wait
a week or two for version 3.x.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:20 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT
 
 Kevin,
 
 The version that is compatible with 8.2x is going to be Declude 
 version
3.0
 which is still in beta testing.  Although others have ran the 2.0.6 
 train with no issues under 8.2x - however others have not been so
fortunate.
 Upgrading to the 2.0.6 install is fairly easy.  Just run a manual 
 install and copy over the new declude.exe to the imail directory.  You 
 might also want to go through the global.cfg for 2.0.6 and add any of 
 the tests to
your
 global.cfg that are missing.  The installation for 3.0 is a little 
 more involved.  If you wanted to go that route you would need to sign 
 up for
the
 beta program.  However, from reading your post it sounds like you 
 might
not
 be interested in the beta program.
 
 Let us know if you need anymore help,
 Darrell
  -
 DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus.
 http://www.invariantsystems.com
 
 Kevin Shimwell writes:
 
  Declude Teammates
 
  Well after several month of not wanting to upgrade. Here goes.
 
  Current Imail version  8.21. running 1 month inluding beta.
  Colaberation Suite IM running also. ( only the IM service portion)
 
 
  Currrent declude version Declude 1.79 (C) Copyright 2000-2004
Computerized
  Horizons.
 
  I also have Processor issues but have been manageable.
 
  I have a current service agreement with declude and want to upgrade 
  to
the
  most current declude.exe version.
  What should  my procedure be? and what to look out for.
  Any helpful links or documentation including wise declude 
  professional opinions welcome.
 
  I'm running window 2000 server latest patches and I wan to upgrade 
  my declude.
  I'm running version:
  E:\IMaildeclude -diag
  Declude 1.79 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons.
  Diagnostics ON (Declude v1.79).
  Declude JunkMail:  Config file found (E:\IMail\Declude\global.CFG).
  Declude Virus: Config file found (E:\IMail\Declude\Virus.CFG).
  Declude Hijack:Not installed (no E:\IMail\Declude\Hijack.CFG file).
  Declude Confirm:   Not installed (no E:\IMail\Declude\Confirm.CFG file).
  50 spam tests defined: AHBL BLITZEDALL CBL DSBL ORDB SBL SORBS-HTTP 
  SORBS-SOCKS SORBS-MISC SORBS-SMTP SORBS-SPAM SORBS-WEB SORBS-BLOCK 
  SORBS-
 ZOMBIE
  SORBS-DUHL S
  PAMCOP DSN NOABUSE NOPOSTMASTER BONDEDSENDER BADHEADERS BASE64
 CMDSPACE
  COMMENTS
   HELOBOGUS IPNOTINMX MAILFROM NOLEGITCONTENT PERCENT REVDNS
 ROUTING
  SPAMHEADERS
  IPLINKED IPLINKED2 MYFILTER KILLFROM SUBJECTFILTER BODYFILTER 
  GIBBERISH ANTI-GIB BERISH SNIFFER WEIGHT10 WEIGHT20 WEIGHT1-10 
  WEIGHT11-20 WEIGHT21-34
  WEIGHT35-45
  WEIGHT46-200 CATCHALLMAILS WHITLIST
 
  IMail reports Official Host Name as: scooby.linkbrokers.com.
  IMail's SendName registry seems OK:  E:\IMail\declude.exe.
  DNS Server: 66.153.205.8
 
  Declude JunkMail Status: PRO version registered.
  Declude Virus Status:Pro Version Registered.
  Declude Hijack Status:   NOT REGISTERED: No activation code.
 
 
  Kevin Shimwell
  Link Brokers Group, LLC  ( Support ) 1600 Hwy 17 South North Myrtle 
  Beach, SC 29582
  Phone: 843-663-1004
  Fax: 843-663-1007
  Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  24/7 Help : http://www.linkbrokers.com/help_ticket.cfm
  http://www.linkbrokers.com/help_ticket.cfm
  Support Forum:
  http://www.linkbrokers.com/chatboard/index.cfm?CFB=1
  Support M-F  1-888-546-5631
 
  This message is intended only for the use of the individual or 
  entity towhich it is addressed and may contain information that is 
  privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable 
  law. If the
reader
  of this message is not the intended recipient or 

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread David Barker
2 new Directives

WAITFORTHREADS  1500
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds
this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.  

WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another
thread.

David B
www.declude.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread David Barker
WAITFORTHREADS  1500
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1

Are the suggested defaults

David B
www.declude.com

PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some
feedback from developers.
 
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

Are these the suggested defaults? 

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2 new Directives

WAITFORTHREADS  1500
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds
this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.  

WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another
thread.

David B
www.declude.com

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread David Barker
Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings.  

In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization.

1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded 

You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS.

2. FAST server 
Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization.

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that
the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. 

The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests,
other processes, etc.  If the system is spiking but coming down quickly
that's good.

David B
www.declude.com
 

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it
gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of
all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other
processes, etc.  It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's
good.

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([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David, 

Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would

be in tweaking those values?  For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS

to 1 second it will help by . 

Darrell 

David Barker writes: 

 2 new Directives 
 
 WAITFORTHREADS  1500
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5
seconds
 this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
 specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.
   
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
 The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process
another
 thread. 
 
 David B
 www.declude.com 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread David Barker
John,

It has always been THREADS

From the Beta page:

Performance

   1. Create a file in your Declude folder called declude.cfg
   2. Add the following directive THREADS   5
   3. The default is 5 threads
   4. This value can be adjusted to allow more threads to run

David Barker
www.declude.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(Lists)
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:34 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David, too clarify, is that THREAD or THREADS? Originally it was THREAD.

John T
eServices For You


 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:00 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 WAITFORTHREADS  1500
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1
 
 Are the suggested defaults
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some
 feedback from developers.
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Grosshandler
 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 Are these the suggested defaults?
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
 
 2 new Directives
 
 WAITFORTHREADS  1500
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5
seconds
 this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
 specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.
 
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
 The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process
another
 thread.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread David Barker
Am I to assume that the identifiers SLOW server and FAST server are
completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization?  For instance, I have
a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU
utilization, especially in spikes.  So is the trick here really just the CPU
load?

Correct

CPU Load is the key but one should also take into account the CPU speed.
e.g.. A SLOW server could be 800 Mhz with 256 MB ram. In which case you do
not want to be using a high thread count and you want to give the CPU
sufficient time between threads to do other things.

It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded
server.

If that is your preference yes. We have not yet discovered the optimal
numbers as it does have to do a lot with the environment, server traffic,
load etc. So by adding these directives gives those who would like to tweak
the system the ability to do so.

David Barker
www.declude.com






From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:01 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David,

Am I to assume that the identifiers SLOW server and FAST server are
completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization?  For instance, I have
a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU
utilization, especially in spikes.  So is the trick here really just the CPU
load?

Another question along these lines...High CPU utilization can happen on any
server because of the burstiness of the traffic, and it is these high CPU
utilization periods that really matter to people like myself as I could
pretty much care less  about a 1 second delay on normal E-mail in comparison
to processing a huge backlog of messages.  It would seem wise to then just
leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server.

One alternative to manually specifying settings that are tied to notoriously
bursty traffic would be to let the program manage this for us.  I believe
that Sniffer does this for instance and maybe Pete will chime in, or maybe
he has already in private.  It would seem that Declude could adjust things
based on it's own spool of messages to process as these would be indicative
of the traffic and the ability of a machine to handle that traffic.

Matt




David Barker wrote: 
Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings.  

In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization.

1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded 

You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS.

2. FAST server 
Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization.

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that
the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. 

The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests,
other processes, etc.  If the system is spiking but coming down quickly
that's good.

David B
www.declude.com
 

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it
gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of
all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other
processes, etc.  It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's
good.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David, 

Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would

be in tweaking those values?  For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS

to 1 second it will help by . 

Darrell 

David Barker writes: 

  
2 new Directives 

WAITFORTHREADS  1500
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5

seconds
  
this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.  

WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process

another
  
thread. 

David B
www.declude.com 

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RE: Re[10]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

2005-09-23 Thread David Barker
Thank you Randy, your post is very much appreciated. :)

David Barker 
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Webmaster
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 6:03 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: Re[10]: [Declude.JunkMail] declude / spamassassin

I just wanted to personally thank David Barker for all of his help last
night with server queue issues we had...


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net

Global Web Solutions is a registered trademark of Global Web Solutions,
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support

2005-09-27 Thread David Barker
Hi Gary,

Currently the we have the ticket response system temporarily disabled. As
far as I am aware we have received all your messages. 

The way to open a ticket is to send an email to support @ declude.com you
can also submit a ticket using
http://support.declude.com/Customer/SubmitTicket.aspx

Under general circumstances, support emails are answered within 24 hours on
business days. Which are Mon - Fri. If you feel that support is taking too
long to respond please feel free to email me directly dbarker @ declude.com

As for your support tickets,

1. SmarterMail picking up on RBL's that Declude is not is currently under
review and as soon as we have an answer to this I will let you know

2. The header in the body is badly formed emails due to broken mail clients.
This is not a bug in declude but we are currently looking into a way to
bette handle these exceptions.

3. AVAFTERJMON
This is the way to have Declude EVA (Virus) run after Declude JunkMail,tthis
directive is located in your virus.cfg file.

What specific issues are you refering to with 2.x ? I will follow up on this
and respond.

David B
www.declude.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:01 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support

It used to be that when I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would get
an automatic reply like the following:

Thank you for submitting a ticket to support. Your ticket number is
[xxx--].

Please keep this ticket number for your records and include it in the
subject (including brackets) of all future emails regarding this issue.

Thank You.

Declude Technical Support

That doesn't happen anymore.  If I do get a reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
it is usually from a specific support person like David Barker.  Other
messages I have sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] received no response, and for
all I know ended up in the bit bucket.

How does one open a ticket with Declude support?  Is the email method no
longer viable?  Should I be using the web site at
http://support.declude.com/Customer/SubmitTicket.aspx ?

I would love to download the 3.x upgrade, but I don't want to take on 3.x
until I see resolution of the issues with 2.x.  Or at least a statement from
Declude saying that all the problems I've been having with 2.x are fixed in
3.x.


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support

2005-09-27 Thread David Barker
Gary,

Are your timings in your SmarterMail (command line time out)  and (command
timeout) set to 300 or have you lowered the time?

David Barker
www.declude.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support

What made you think I was on IMail?  I'm using SmarterMail 2.6.

The Declude version I'm running is 2.0.6 (I purchased the product in July
2005).

AUTOWHITELIST is definitely not ON.

Here's a little snippet from the log file:

09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 Msg failed WEIGHT30 (Weight of 31 reaches or
exceeds the limit of 30.). Action=HOLD.
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] actionsdata[ i ] = [26 Sep 2005]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] ACTION_HOLD - holddir
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] ACTION_HOLD - datafile
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EML]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] ACTION_HOLD - recipfile
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.HDR]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] ACTION_HOLD - datahold
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep 2005\39819112.EML]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] ACTION_HOLD - reciphold
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep 2005\39819112.HDR]
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- $1.56 per dose 
pmonkz
qdvfg ouo
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  IP: 219.13.84.45 ID: A3FF561BF4
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 Tests failed [weight=31]: CATCHALLMAILS=IGNORE
NOLEGITCONTENT=WARN IPNOTINMX=WARN CBL=WARN MXRATE-BLOCK=WARN
SORBS-DUHL=WARN SPAMBAG=WARN FIVETENSRC=WARN ROUTING=WARN WEIGHT6=WARN
WEIGHT10=HOLD WEIGHT14=HOLD WEIGHT20=HOLD WEIGHT30=HOLD
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 Action(s) taken for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] = IGNORE WARN HOLD  [LAST ACTION=HOLD]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Done Looping
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] RecipFile(
C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.HDR );
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] QUEUEFILE_SAVEFILE = newhdrfile =
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.HDR]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] QUEUEFILE_SAVEFILE = newemlfile =
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EML]
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 Cumulative action(s) taken on this email =
IGNORE WARN HOLD  [LAST ACTION=HOLD]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] AlterMessage
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Subject = []
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Warning = [X-RBL-Warning:
NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail detected.
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX: 
X-RBL-Warning: CBL: Blocked - see
http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=219.13.84.45;
X-RBL-Warning: MXRATE-BLOCK:
http://www.mxrate.com/lookup/refused.asp?ipaddress=219.13.84.45;
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUHL: Dynamic IP Addresses See:
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?219.13.84.45;
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMBAG: 45.84.13.219.blacklist.spambag.org.
X-RBL-Warning: FIVETENSRC: 45.84.13.219.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.
X-RBL-Warning: ROUTING: This E-mail was routed in a poor manner consistent
with spam [210f].
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT6: Weight of 31 reaches or exceeds the limit of 6.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [219.13.84.45]
X-Declude-Spoolname: 39819112.EML
X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 2.0.6 (http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm)
for spam.
X-Declude-Scan: Score [31] at 01:25:17 on 26 Sep 2005
X-Declude-Tests: NOLEGITCONTENT, IPNOTINMX, CBL, MXRATE-BLOCK, SORBS-DUHL,
SPAMBAG, F
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Header = []
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Footer = [--- [This E-mail scanned
for viruses by Declude Virus] ]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] MoveFile in AlterMessage - datafile
= [C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EML] TempFile =
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EM$]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] CreateHoldFolder parameter
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep 2005\39819112.EML]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Hold directory is
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep 2005]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Moving file to spam hold directory
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EML][C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep
2005\39819112.EML]
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 ERROR: Could not move spam to hold!  Code: [2]
Error String: [The system cannot find the file specified.]
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EML] [C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep
2005\39819112.EML]
09/26/2005 01:25:17.022 39819112 [2408] Moving file to spam hold directory
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.HDR][C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep
2005\39819112.HDR]
09/26/2005 01:25:17 39819112 ERROR: Could not move spam to hold!  Code: [2]
Error String: [The system cannot find the file specified.]
[C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\proc\39819112.EML] [C:\SMARTERMAIL\SPOOL\spam\26 Sep
2005\39819112.EML]



  Original Message 
 From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Test Very odd Results

2005-09-27 Thread David Barker
Hey Guys,

I just uploaded a new http://www.declude.com/version/release/all_list.dat
see if this solves the problems that you have been seeing.

David Barker
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:11 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Test Very odd Results

Dave, 

I pulled that version down and compared the two (file sizes) and they were
the same.  I put that one in just in case. 

Darrell 

Dave Doherty writes: 

 Hi Darrell--
 
 This might have nothing at all to do with it, but maybe you need to 
 update ALL_LIST.DAT...
 
 http://www.declude.com/version/release/all_list.dat
 
 There was a thread on this recently. Apparently, ARIN recently 
 reassigned some blocks.
 
 -Dave Doherty
 Skywaves, Inc. 
 
  
 
 - Original Message - From: Darrell 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 4:14 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Test Very odd Results
 
 
 Anyone want to take a stab at this one I would appreciate it.
 216.55.166.147 - IPWHOIS Says its being used in San Diego CA Declude 
 via Countries Test Reports
 09/27/2005 14:58:39.015 q96320ffe0578da59.smd Msg failed COUNTRY 
 (Message failed COUNTRY test (line 15, weight 5)). Action=WARN.
 Line 15: is the country AR
 The message was directly send from 216.55.166.147 so there were no 
 other hops in the message in case it caught it in the country chain.
 It's just really weird as I am getting all kinds of messages that are 
 legit seemingly get triggered on the country and mailfrom test..
 Any thoughts?
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support

2005-09-27 Thread David Barker
It looks like SmarterMail may be grabbing the message before Declude can
move it or make the changes needed, which seems to be a lot of the type
problems you are facing. I would suggest trying the 3.0 release, if this
solves your problem great if not it is always easy to revert to 2.0.6.16 by
stopping  the decludeproc service and renaming the declude.exe.

If you are going to do an upgrade be sure to read the instructions.

David Barker
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:06 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support

David,

As per our past off-the-list discussion, I had re-lowered the times to 120,
but when this sudden increase of spam occurred yesterday, I raised them back
up to 300.  It doesn't seem to have had any effect.

Gary


  Original Message 
 From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 6:01 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] opening a ticket with Declude support
 
 Gary,
 
 Are your timings in your SmarterMail (command line time out)  and 
 (command
 timeout) set to 300 or have you lowered the time?
 
 David Barker
 www.declude.com
 
 
 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] PROCESSES VS THREADS settings

2005-09-28 Thread David Barker
PROCESSES is only relevant to Declude 2.0.6 
ADJUSTFORLOAD is only relevant to Declude 2.0.6 

THREADS is only relevant to Declude 3.0

David Barker
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:35 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] PROCESSES VS THREADS settings

Does setting PROCESSES (in the 2.0.6 notes) contradict with THREADS (in the
3.0 notes)?



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc did not install

2005-09-28 Thread David Barker
Fred,

Goto you're the command prompt and to your \Imail directory and type the
following:

decludeproc -i

This should install the service.

David Barker
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Samarelli
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:27 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc did not install

It looks like Declude should have installed a Service called  decludeproc
service.

It did not.

What next.

Fred 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc did not install

2005-09-28 Thread David Barker
decludeproc -vversion
decludeproc -i  install
decludeproc -uuninstall

David Barker
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:55 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc did not install

How would you de-install the service if you wanted to?

 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:26 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc did not install
 
 Fred,
 
 Goto you're the command prompt and to your \Imail directory and type
the
 following:
 
 decludeproc -i
 
 This should install the service.
 
 David Barker
 www.declude.com
 
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 Samarelli
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:27 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc did not install
 
 It looks like Declude should have installed a Service called
decludeproc
 service.
 
 It did not.
 
 What next.
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

2005-10-03 Thread David Barker
We have received the ticket and are currently looking into the issues
regarding MAILFROM and COUNTRY
 
David B
www.declude.com




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing


No reply bad

- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])  
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

Scott,
 
I posted about this earlier this week to the forum - it caused
massive amounts of false positives on my system.  I simply had to disable
the test.  Also, check out the MAILFROM test if you are using it.  Something
does not seem right on that one either.I submitted tickets on both of
these issues this week and still have not received a reply.
 
Darrell
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- Original Message - 
From: Scott Fisher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:38 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

I just installed 3.05.5 and the COUNTRY variable and the
Coutnry chain are not working correctly:
 
Before with 2.0.6.16:
Received: from web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.231]
by imail.Farmprogress.com
  (SMTPD-8.21) id A3C7032C; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:05:27 -0500
X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-0POINT: Message failed COUNTRY-0POINT
test (line 13, weight 0)
X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination
 
Country-0point triggered on:
COUNTRY  0 IS US
 
This was processed correctly.
 


==
 
After with 3.0.5.5:
Received: from web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.231]
by imail.Farmprogress.com
  (SMTPD-8.21) id A70202F4; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:19:14 -0500
X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-ABLANK: Message failed COUNTRY-ABLANK
test (line 8, weight 0)
X-Country-Chain: -CHINA-destination
 
Country-ablank triggered on:
COUNTRY  0 ISBLANK

 
So with Declude 3.05.5:
The COUNTRY variable is not getting populated since it
triggered as blank
The country chain is incorrect. It lists China, it should be
UNITED STATES-destination
 
 
These were both run with the same all_list.dat file dated
9/27/05


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How to requeue a message with Declude 3.x

2005-10-03 Thread David Barker



Scott,

I think what you have done is correct. Anything that is in 
the spool is up to IMail to deliver.
David Barker
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott 
FisherSent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:30 AMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] How to 
requeue a message with Declude 3.x

Can anyone share how to requeue a held message with 
Declude 3.x?

I've dropped it from \spool\spam to \spool and I 
haven't seen it come in yet.


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

2005-10-03 Thread David Barker
Thanks Nick. Also know that you can always email me directly too.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:28 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

David,

I just want you to know I really appreciate your participation in this list.
I find it very helpful and reassuring!

Thanks!!

-Nick

David Barker wrote:

We have received the ticket and are currently looking into the issues 
regarding MAILFROM and COUNTRY
 
David B
www.declude.com




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:09 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing


No reply bad

   - Original Message - 
   From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
   Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:53 PM
   Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

   Scott,

   I posted about this earlier this week to the forum - it caused
massive 
amounts of false positives on my system.  I simply had to disable the 
test.  Also, check out the MAILFROM test if you are using it.  Something
does not seem right on that one either.I submitted tickets on both of
these issues this week and still have not received a reply.

   Darrell
   ---
   Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude 
And Imail.  IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

   - Original Message - 
   From: Scott Fisher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
   Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:38 PM
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

   I just installed 3.05.5 and the COUNTRY variable and the
Coutnry 
chain are not working correctly:

   Before with 2.0.6.16:
   Received: from web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.231]
by 
imail.Farmprogress.com
 (SMTPD-8.21) id A3C7032C; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:05:27 -0500
   X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-0POINT: Message failed COUNTRY-0POINT
test 
(line 13, weight 0)
   X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination

   Country-0point triggered on:
   COUNTRY  0 IS US

   This was processed correctly.

   
===
=
==

   After with 3.0.5.5:
   Received: from web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.231]
by 
imail.Farmprogress.com
 (SMTPD-8.21) id A70202F4; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:19:14 -0500
   X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-ABLANK: Message failed COUNTRY-ABLANK
test 
(line 8, weight 0)
   X-Country-Chain: -CHINA-destination

   Country-ablank triggered on:
   COUNTRY  0 ISBLANK
   

   So with Declude 3.05.5:
   The COUNTRY variable is not getting populated since it
triggered as 
blank
   The country chain is incorrect. It lists China, it should be
UNITED 
STATES-destination


   These were both run with the same all_list.dat file dated
9/27/05


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 issues

2005-10-04 Thread David Barker



Harrymake sure you are 
running message Sniffer in persistent mode.

David


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
VanderzandSent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:27 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 
issues

thank you

I was under the understanding given me by David from 
Declude that it was appropriate given the amount of power my hardware 
has.

What would you recommend for my 
hardware?

Thanks John, I always appreciate your active involvement in 
the list

Harry Vanderzand inTown Internet  Computer Services 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2519-741-1222


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T 
  (Lists)Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:11 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 
  issues
  
  
  Your threads is way 
  too high, and I suspect that there are time outs occurring and not all 
  scanning is being done.
  
  
  John 
  T
  eServices For 
  You
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Harry 
  VanderzandSent: 
  Tuesday, October 04, 
  2005 6:17 
  AMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 
  issues
  
  
  I find that since 
  being on the new version that more spam is slipping through. We have 
  imail v8.05, declude and sniffer on win 2000 server dual xeon 3.4Ghz with 2Gb 
  ram. Threads are set to 50 with no other setting in 
  declude.cfg
  
  
  
  Any advice you can 
  give me to tighten it to where we had it before? I have had several 
  clients complaining
  
  
  
  Other than changing 
  from V2.06.16 to 3.05 nothing else has changed on the 
  server
  
  
  
  thank 
  you
  
  
  Harry Vanderzand 
  inTown Internet  Computer Services 11 
  Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2519-741-1222
  
  


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

2005-10-05 Thread David Barker
Thank you Scott, I will pass this information onto the engineers.

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:26 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

I don't know if this will help. But here's an Excel spreadsheet showing the
mailfrom test oddities.
Mostly misfires on non-autheniticated email from my own domain.

- Original Message -
From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing


 We have received the ticket and are currently looking into the issues
 regarding MAILFROM and COUNTRY

 David B
 www.declude.com


 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:09 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing


 No reply bad

 - Original Message - 
 From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

 Scott,

 I posted about this earlier this week to the forum - it caused
 massive amounts of false positives on my system.  I simply had to disable
 the test.  Also, check out the MAILFROM test if you are using it. 
 Something
 does not seem right on that one either.I submitted tickets on both of
 these issues this week and still have not received a reply.

 Darrell
 ---
 Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude
 And Imail.  IMail Queue Monitoring, Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring,
 SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Scott Fisher mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:38 PM
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Country testing

 I just installed 3.05.5 and the COUNTRY variable and the
 Coutnry chain are not working correctly:

 Before with 2.0.6.16:
 Received: from web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.231]
 by imail.Farmprogress.com
   (SMTPD-8.21) id A3C7032C; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:05:27 -0500
 X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-0POINT: Message failed COUNTRY-0POINT
 test (line 13, weight 0)
 X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES-destination

 Country-0point triggered on:
 COUNTRY  0 IS US

 This was processed correctly.




 ==

 After with 3.0.5.5:
 Received: from web32604.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.231]
 by imail.Farmprogress.com
   (SMTPD-8.21) id A70202F4; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:19:14 -0500
 X-RBL-Warning: COUNTRY-ABLANK: Message failed COUNTRY-ABLANK
 test (line 8, weight 0)
 X-Country-Chain: -CHINA-destination

 Country-ablank triggered on:
 COUNTRY  0 ISBLANK


 So with Declude 3.05.5:
 The COUNTRY variable is not getting populated since it
 triggered as blank
 The country chain is incorrect. It lists China, it should be
 UNITED STATES-destination


 These were both run with the same all_list.dat file dated
 9/27/05


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Orphan files in work directory

2005-10-07 Thread David Barker
What is the content of the D file? Eg, is it spam, legit, list request ?

David B
www.declude.com 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:48 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Orphan files in work directory

Hi, just noticed I have orphan D files in the proc/work directory. Why would
this be? Shouldn't they at least be moved back into \spool ?

Regards,
Lyndon Eaton
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Ok, what did I do wrong?

2005-10-07 Thread David Barker
Looks like you did not rename the old declude.exe before doing the upgrade.

Look in the Imail folder if the declude.exe is not 32k in size you are
running the old declude.exe

Download the new declude.exe here (this is a temp link and for Imail only)
http://www.declude.com/declude.exe 

Once this is done you should see messages being moved to your \proc
directory. I would also suggest you start on about 20 threads.

To check the version of declude, at your command prompt for Imail type

Declude -v

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:57 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Ok, what did I do wrong?

Imail 8.21
Was/is Declude 2.0.6.16

I just attempted the upgrade to 3.0.5.5 by doing the following:

Downloaded current 3.0.5.5
Stopped SMTP
Stopped Queuemgr
Created \proc under \spool
Ran the 3.0.5.5 upgrade
Created declude.cfg under c:\imail\declude\ and entered THREADS 5 Made sure
decludeproc service was running - wasn't, but started it.
Started SMTP
Started Queuemgr

Mail is flowing.
Declude -diag shows I am still running 2.0.6.16 Seeing nothing happening in
\proc folder (I guess because 2.0.6.16 is still
there.)

Is there a 3.0.5.5 version of declude.exe ??  Where do you get it?

Thanks for any help
John C

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Ok, what did I do wrong?

2005-10-09 Thread David Barker
Thanks guys, yes you were right, just checking to see if you were taking
note ;) you passed the test.

David Barker
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:41 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Ok, what did I do wrong?

Yes you are right, I missed it.

decludeproc -v.  Maybe between David, you, and me, we'll get that part
right. :-) 

John 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:26 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Ok, what did I do wrong?

You di dnot remove the declude exe from the imail folder as per the
instructions. You do not have the proper stub program running.

Also to get the declude version you run

decludeproc -diag. Althoug mine is not currently working.


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Carter
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:57 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Ok, what did I do wrong?


 Imail 8.21
 Was/is Declude 2.0.6.16

 I just attempted the upgrade to 3.0.5.5 by doing the following:

 Downloaded current 3.0.5.5
 Stopped SMTP
 Stopped Queuemgr
 Created \proc under \spool
 Ran the 3.0.5.5 upgrade
 Created declude.cfg under c:\imail\declude\ and entered THREADS 5 Made 
 sure decludeproc service was running - wasn't, but started it.
 Started SMTP
 Started Queuemgr

 Mail is flowing.
 Declude -diag shows I am still running 2.0.6.16 Seeing nothing 
 happening in \proc folder (I guess because
 2.0.6.16 is still
 there.)

 Is there a 3.0.5.5 version of declude.exe ??  Where do you get it?

 Thanks for any help
 John C

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 TempLog/Concatanate Log issues

2005-10-10 Thread David Barker



Mark,

I am following up with Bill and will post as soon as I have 
an answer.
David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
SmithSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 2:43 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] 3.05.5 
TempLog/Concatanate Log issues

Any 
word from Declude on the issue in 3.05.5 that fills up the /templogs 
folder?

To 
recap, if Concatenate logs is turned on AND the decludeproc service crashes, 
declude "forgets" about the temp. logs. (Concatenate Log Threshold is reset to 
0).
This 
results in the /templog eventually growing and, when the folder reaches 10,000+ 
messages slows down declude. The problem snowballs until the server 
crashes.




RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question

2005-10-12 Thread David Barker
Stop/restart the decludeproc service

David B
www.declude.com 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:53 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack question

Dave,

You need to stop/start deccon.exe  That wil reset the counter so to speak.

Question to Declude support -

How does this work with Declude 3x?

Thanks!

-Nick



Dave Doherty wrote:

 Hi all,

 Running Declude version 1.82 with Hijack...

 One of my customers go caught by Hijack a couple of days ago as a 
 result of some activity with mailing list software he was trying out.
 Needless to say, he now has a thorough understanding of our UCE 
 policy.  But ever since, everything he sends - even just a single 
 message at a time - gets caught by Hijack and placed in Hold2. I 
 recall that there was a second step after renaming the messages and 
 putting them back into the queue, but it has been so long since I had 
 an outgoing spam problem that I forget what that was. There doesn't 
 seem to be a mention of it on the Declude website. Any help would be 
 appreciated.

 DaveDoherty
 Skywaves, Inc.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Switched to SmarterMail

2005-10-17 Thread David Barker








Evans,



The feature should be available in SM. If
you have in your global.cfg



AUTOWHITELIST ON



This will allow any address in your
address book to be whitelisted.



David B

www.declude.com













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans Martin
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005
11:54 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]
Switched to SmarterMail





Well, we finally bit the bullet and
switched to SmarterMail. Everything seems to be working great and my
customers love the new interface. However, they are missing the auto
whitelisting of their address books. Is this feature an IMail only
feature? Is there any way to duplicate this functionality in SmarterMail?

Thanks,
Evans Martin








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x

2005-10-19 Thread David Barker
Planning to post 3.0.5.9 tomorrow. 

Fixes include COUNTRY and MAILFROM, improved installer, autoreview directory
option, error directory for files not able to be moved, smartermail forward
issue resolved etc.

In general we have been pleased with the results - of the outstanding issues
these seem to be isolated to a specific customer environments, and we are
currently working to try replicate these.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x

I appreciate the others sharing their experiences, but I was also hoping
that someone from Declude could comment on the current state, any known
issues, and what the plans are related to bugs and/or tweaks to the newly
introduced code.

Thanks,

Matt



Matt wrote:

 Since things have been quite for some time, I just wanted to check up 
 on what is happening with 3.x.  The last that I heard, there were 
 several people having issues with multi-processor systems.  The thread 
 settings also concern me in the way that they are being implemented.
 It appears from reports that these can greatly affect the performance 
 of a system (and therefore it's stability/ability), and knowing how 
 variable E-mail can be, I'm not sure that this is something that I 
 would want to have hard coded on my system.  I would hope that there 
 would be another way to go about this.

 Right now I'm on 2.0.6.16 and have been for some time, but as bugs 
 arise, and bug fixes are released, I would like to have the peace of 
 mind to upgrade to the latest code, but I'm not sure that I have that 
 yet.

 I know that the folks at Declude have been working long and hard at 
 this for sometime now, and I don't want to disrespect that hard work, 
 but I would appreciate an update on where things are, and where they 
 are going as far as the service issues go.

 Thanks,

 Matt
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x

2005-10-20 Thread David Barker
Yes the only change is the decludeproc.exe although in the full install now
it has all the new configs and both SM and IM versions.

I will put the links on the upgrade page for just the decludeproc.exe for SM
and IM 

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:30 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x

Will there be an update version or just a full install?

The file looks to be 6 MB, and I bet the only change is the decludeproc.exe?

- Original Message -
From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x


 Planning to post 3.0.5.9 tomorrow.

 Fixes include COUNTRY and MAILFROM, improved installer, autoreview 
 directory
 option, error directory for files not able to be moved, smartermail 
 forward
 issue resolved etc.

 In general we have been pleased with the results - of the outstanding 
 issues
 these seem to be isolated to a specific customer environments, and we are
 currently working to try replicate these.

 David B
 www.declude.com

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:25 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wondering about Declude 3.x

 I appreciate the others sharing their experiences, but I was also hoping
 that someone from Declude could comment on the current state, any known
 issues, and what the plans are related to bugs and/or tweaks to the newly
 introduced code.

 Thanks,

 Matt



 Matt wrote:

 Since things have been quite for some time, I just wanted to check up
 on what is happening with 3.x.  The last that I heard, there were
 several people having issues with multi-processor systems.  The thread
 settings also concern me in the way that they are being implemented.
 It appears from reports that these can greatly affect the performance
 of a system (and therefore it's stability/ability), and knowing how
 variable E-mail can be, I'm not sure that this is something that I
 would want to have hard coded on my system.  I would hope that there
 would be another way to go about this.

 Right now I'm on 2.0.6.16 and have been for some time, but as bugs
 arise, and bug fixes are released, I would like to have the peace of
 mind to upgrade to the latest code, but I'm not sure that I have that
 yet.

 I know that the folks at Declude have been working long and hard at
 this for sometime now, and I don't want to disrespect that hard work,
 but I would appreciate an update on where things are, and where they
 are going as far as the service issues go.

 Thanks,

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc getting caught in Data Execution Prevention

2005-10-20 Thread David Barker



Yes, I have seen this happen, make sure that you disable 
the DEP on declude.exe and decludeproc.exe you can do this by right clicking on 
the executable.

David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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SmithSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:41 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Decludeproc 
getting caught in Data Execution Prevention

Has 
anyone seen this before?



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude as a service and global.cfg

2005-10-24 Thread David Barker
No, the only time the decludeproc service needs to be restarted is with
changes made to the declude.cfg.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Now that the declude engine runs as a service, do you need to restart the
decludeproc service when making changes to global.cfg?


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude as a service and global.cfg

2005-10-24 Thread David Barker
We can certainly look at this .. What would you like to see ? I can then
take this request to our development wishlist.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Ugh. That's brutal. That means I potentially could have messages floating
through my mail server unchecked for 30, 60, or even 90 seconds. Are there
plans to make a change to that feature?


Doug 

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Currently yes. To reset hijack stop/restart decludeproc

David B
www.declude.com 

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David,

After installing Declude 3.0 the HiJack service appears to be wrapped into
decludeproc so when a server is flagged for HOLD2 the only way to release
that hold is to restart decludeproc. Is that true?

Doug 

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No, the only time the decludeproc service needs to be restarted is with
changes made to the declude.cfg.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Now that the declude engine runs as a service, do you need to restart the
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-24 Thread David Barker
Harry, try commenting out

#waitforthreads 1500
#waitbetweenthreads 100

David B
www.declude.com 

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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
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Cc: 'Technical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl

The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs

It appears that processing has changed

If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 

Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?

It currently is

threads 20
waitformail 500
waitforthreads 1500
waitbetweenthreads 100

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

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 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
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 Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any 
 previous version -- proc and work are quickly cleared.  
 
 What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or 
 the anti-virus
 scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, 
 RAM, declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
 
 John
 
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up 
 considerably and mail gets processed much slower and starts 
 to backlog.
 
 I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
 
 Harry Vanderzand
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-24 Thread David Barker
Yes, again the ideal is that the CPU usage bounces, So you could start at
150 then if it pegged at 100% CPU try 125 etc.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Someone correct me, but with 3.4GHz couldn't you try THREADS 150 and back
down from there if needed?  Wouldn't that help some?

From http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=167
Performance can vary due to server configuration, CPU load, available
memory, email traffic, the suggested THREADS is 25 per 1 GHZ CPU. To find
peak performance increase your threads so that your CPU usage bounces to the
100% mark and down again. If your CPU is pegged at 100% try reduce the
threads by increments of 5 each time till you see the desired result.

John 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

It works better but also changes the behaviour somewhat.

The way I had it, it continuously kept the proc directory empty because once
threads were available it brought mail into the work directory

Now it does start more threads as they are available.

I like the behaviour the way it was

Can this be achieved again?

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

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 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:55 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Harry, try commenting out
 
 #waitforthreads 1500
 #waitbetweenthreads 100
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
 Vanderzand
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Cc: 'Technical Support'
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl
 
 The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 
 3.05.11 this occurs
 
 It appears that processing has changed
 
 If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 
 
 Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?
 
 It currently is
 
 threads   20
 waitformail 500
 waitforthreads 1500
 waitbetweenthreads 100
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services
 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
 519-741-1222
 
  
 
  -Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
  Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
  
  Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any
 previous version
  -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
  
  What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the 
  anti-virus
  scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, RAM, 
  declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
  
  John
  
  
  
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  Vanderzand
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  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
  
  When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably 
  and mail gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
  
  I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
  
  Harry Vanderzand
  inTown Internet  Computer Services
  11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
  519-741-1222
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Randy try changing

WAITFORMAIL 1500

To

WAITFORMAIL 500

See if that changes the delay.

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
Webmaster
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 - 
but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them
to the work folder.  Do not see any problems so far except for the second or
two delay in this...

We have in our declude.cfg:
THREADS 50
WAITFORMAIL 1500
WAITFORTHREADS  1000
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl

The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs

It appears that processing has changed

If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 

Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?

It currently is

threads 20
waitformail 500
waitforthreads 1500
waitbetweenthreads 100

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any 
 previous version -- proc and work are quickly cleared.  
 
 What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or 
 the anti-virus
 scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, 
 RAM, declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
 
 John
 
 
 
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 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up 
 considerably and mail gets processed much slower and starts 
 to backlog.
 
 I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
 
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 inTown Internet  Computer Services
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
In every instance that we have observed so far the headers in the body are
caused by broken mail clients. This is not only an issue for Declude but for
mail servers as well. To illustrates the difficulty coming up with a single
algorithm that will detect all instances of these broken emails to prevent
headers from appearing at the end of a message or within the body of a
message.
 
RFC dictates all lines must end with a CR/LF sequence, with a double
sequence CR/LF/CR/LF separating the headers from the body. Technically, that
would be a 0D 0A 0D 0A sequence.
 
In the byte sequence below, the sixth line contains:
 
22 0A 20 0D 0A 49 20 73-74 61 72 74 65 64 20 68
 
where a single 0A is followed by a space and then the required 0D 0A
sequence. When this problem was first reported, changes were made in the
source to detect a simple 0A as a line terminator, followed by another line
terminator sequence. 

However, this example would not get detected because they inserted a space,
which is invisible, between the two line termination sequences. They could
have inserted a tab (09) also, so checking only for a space would not have
caught all possibilities. 

In addition, checking only for spaces at the beginning of a line would not
solve the problem because certain header lines can be continued on the next
line, which requires spaces and then non-blank characters prior to the next
line termination sequence.
 
30 38 3A 35 37 3A 31 33-20 2D 30 35 30 30 0D 0A
4D 49 4D 45 2D 56 65 72-73 69 6F 6E 3A 20 31 2E
30 0D 0A 43 6F 6E 74 65-6E 74 2D 54 79 70 65 3A
20 74 65 78 74 2F 70 6C-61 69 6E 3B 0D 0A 09 63
68 61 72 73 65 74 3D 22-75 73 2D 61 73 63 69 69
22 0A 20 0D 0A 49 20 73-74 61 72 74 65 64 20 68
61 76 69 6E 67 20 61 6E-20 61 66 66 61 69 72 20
77 69 74 68 20 61 20 79-6F 75 6E 67 65 72 2C 20
 
Often from the outset these issues look extremely simple. However, because
all eventualities that have to be covered it becomes quite complex. I am
providing this example because things are rarely as simple as they may at
first appear.
 
With all that said we are looking into providing a solution for this
problem.

David B
www.declude.com

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:07 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

This looks like Declude was expecting to see an occurrence of Blank Folding,
but it is making the mistake of detecting headers in the MIME segments or
the body as a continuation of the real headers, either that or they changed
the code that detects where to throw in the Declude generated headers in
order to handle Blank Folding.  IMO, Declude should just throw the headers
just before the location of the first CRLFCRLF or possibly following a
mistaken LFLF.

I haven't seen any Declude headers in the body using 2.0.6.16 and earlier.

Matt



Robert Grosshandler wrote:

This has been a problem for awhile (happened with the move to the new 
architecture, but Declude says it's not connected.)

The headers are bad when they make it to Declude, and Declude doesn't 
handle them right.

Fortunately, in our setup, they all still get treated as very heavily 
weighted spam, so they never make it to users.

Rob

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:17 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Headers showing up in the body on 3.05.10

Ever since I went to 3.05.10 (now on 3.05.11) I've been receiving 
hundreds of complaints of spam making it to my users.
After inspection, Declude is subject line marking the messages but it's 
moving the SMTP headers to the body of the email. This results in 
user's Outlook rules not firing on the subject line keywords.

Here's an example of the ACTUAL MESSAGE BODY.

Anyone else seeing this?

-0-


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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 6:06 AM
To: Smith, Mark E.
Subject: Re: Hello.

You've seen it on 60 Minutes and read the BBC News report -- now find 
out just what everyone is talking about.
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WARNING-SPAM]:[333]:
X-RBL-Warning: CATCHALLMAILS:
X-RBL-Warning: FIVETEN-SPAM: 225.72.226.221.blackholes.five-ten-sg.com.
X-RBL-Warning: NOABUSE: Not supporting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUL: Dynamic IP Addresses See:
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?221.226.72.225;
X-RBL-Warning: IPNOTINMX:
X-RBL-Warning: NOLEGITCONTENT: No content unique to legitimate E-mail 
detected.
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 
221.226.72.225 with no reverse DNS entry.
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Randy,

Can you confirm for me the processes that are increasing the CPU ?

David B
www.declude.com 

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Allow me to make a correction - under normal daytime loads, we are seeing an
increase in CPU - steady at 80-90%.  Under 3.0.5.5 we saw an average of 40%


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net

 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50
messages before it'll dump them to the work folder.  Do not see any problems
so far except for the second or two delay in this...

We have in our declude.cfg:
THREADS 50
WAITFORMAIL 1500
WAITFORTHREADS  1000
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net



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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl

The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs

It appears that processing has changed

If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 

Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?

It currently is

threads 20
waitformail 500
waitforthreads 1500
waitbetweenthreads 100

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

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 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any previous version
 -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
 
 What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the 
 anti-virus
 scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, RAM, 
 declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
 
 John
 
 
 
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably 
 and mail gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
 
 I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services
 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
 519-741-1222
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Keith,

WAITFORMAIL3
Defined in milliseconds eg. 3 = 30 seconds this can be changed to set
the wait time that decludeproc will wait before checking the \proc directory
once empty for new messages.
 
WAITFORTHREADS   1500
Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that
when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before
checking to launch more threads.
 
WAITBETWEENTHREADS   1
Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between
spawning one thread and starting to process another thread.

David B
www.declude.com 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:01 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

David,
Do you have an exhaustive explanation of what exactly each of the
new commands does?  I have seen a tremendous amount of emails to alter this
and alter that, however, what does it actually do and how does one affect
the other?  Thanks for the aid.

Keith

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem


Randy try changing

WAITFORMAIL 1500

To

WAITFORMAIL 500

See if that changes the delay.

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50
messages before it'll dump them to the work folder.  Do not see any problems
so far except for the second or two delay in this...

We have in our declude.cfg:
THREADS 50
WAITFORMAIL 1500
WAITFORTHREADS  1000
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl

The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs

It appears that processing has changed

If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 

Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?

It currently is

threads 20
waitformail 500
waitforthreads 1500
waitbetweenthreads 100

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

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 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any previous version 
 -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
 
 What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the 
 anti-virus
 scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, RAM, 
 declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
 
 John
 
 
 
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 Vanderzand
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably 
 and mail gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
 
 I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services
 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
 519-741-1222
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude.cfg defaults

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
John,

Default Values: (But my opinion is to use the WAITFORMAIL and change it to
5000 for single or 500 for dual proc)

WAITFORMAIL3
WAITFORTHREADS   1500
WAITBETWEENTHREADS   1

David B
www.declude.com

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude.cfg defaults

David

If one doesn't have the following in the declude.cfg, what are the default
values used by Declude?

WAITFORMAIL
WAITFORTHREADS
WAITBETWEENTHREADS

Thanks,
John

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
This is correct behavior, remember once the \proc hits zero the WAITFORMAIL
kicks in, sometimes because this often happens quicker than what we can see.
You could even drop the WAITFORMAIL lower if you like.

David B
www.declude.com

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

I've changed WAITFORMAIL to 500 and this seemed to help a bit more.  I am
still seeing a collection of about 50 messages before proc engages and
processes them to the work folder...


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net
 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about avg 50%.   I'll try
WAITFORMAIL in just a bit.

I also noticed in my spool folder I have a new folder called s that
appeared with the time stamp of the new proc install.  There is nothing in
it; just a blank folder. I deleted it.


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net


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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Randy try changing

WAITFORMAIL 1500

To

WAITFORMAIL 500

See if that changes the delay.

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50
messages before it'll dump them to the work folder.  Do not see any problems
so far except for the second or two delay in this...

We have in our declude.cfg:
THREADS 50
WAITFORMAIL 1500
WAITFORTHREADS  1000
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl

The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs

It appears that processing has changed

If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 

Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?

It currently is

threads 20
waitformail 500
waitforthreads 1500
waitbetweenthreads 100

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any previous version
 -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
 
 What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the 
 anti-virus
 scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, RAM, 
 declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
 
 John
 
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
 Vanderzand
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably 
 and mail gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
 
 I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
 
 Harry Vanderzand
 inTown Internet  Computer Services
 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
 519-741-1222
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Andy, don't be scared I can hold you hand :)

 How do I explain the apparent inconsistency where users report that the
CPU consumption is considerable higher than in the prior version? 

First we need to confirm that it is decludeproc that has increased in CPU
usage. So far I have not seen any real statistics for this other than what
has been posted on the boards. But I am certainly trying to validate this
information.

 How can the various process settings make any difference - at worst it
should spike quickly and then be idle?

Why do you think it should spike and then become idle ?

 What is spending all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for
directory content?

Perhaps an incorrect assumption, Declude actually uses less CPU, between 3%
and 20% on average.

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:33 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly scared of
upgrading Declude.

I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU consumption and why
certain process parameters are suspected to have detrimental effects.


Please verify my thinking:

A machine that needs to process a given amount of mail will require a
certain number of instructions, which are reflected in the total CPU usage.
If several messages come in almost simultaneously, then I can either process
them right away using parallel processes, causing a short spike in CPU use -
or I can process them one by one, using up the same CPU time over time and
causing a few seconds delay in mail delivery.

Either way, the overall CPU consumption should be the same - just
distributed differently.


So - if the above is true, how do I explain the apparent inconsistency where
users report that the CPU consumption is considerable higher than in the
prior version? How can the various process settings make any difference -
at worst it should spike quickly and then be idle?

If the old Declude handled the amount of mail with moderate CPU use and
without causing noticeable delays in mail delivery to the users - then I
can't see how the same outcome suddenly should require x times the CPU
resources, no matter how inefficient the process settings are? What is
spending all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for directory content?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about avg 50%.   I'll try
WAITFORMAIL in just a bit.

I also noticed in my spool folder I have a new folder called s that
appeared with the time stamp of the new proc install.  There is nothing in
it; just a blank folder. I deleted it.


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net


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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Randy try changing

WAITFORMAIL 1500

To

WAITFORMAIL 500

See if that changes the delay.

David B
www.declude.com

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Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50
messages before it'll dump them to the work folder.  Do not see any problems
so far except for the second or two delay in this...

We have in our declude.cfg:
THREADS 50
WAITFORMAIL 1500
WAITFORTHREADS  1000
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical Support'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl

The issue is that without changing anything other than going to 3.05.11 this
occurs

It appears that processing has changed

If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 

Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?

It currently is

threads 20
waitformail 500
waitforthreads 1500
waitbetweenthreads 100

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Erik,

1. Because Imail 8.2x made changes to their product making Declude
incompatible with Imail.

2. There's been more and more incremental releases are you asking for less
incremental releases ?

3. Declude 3.0 has made many problems that were not noticble with prior
versions of Declude visible. This means that certain elements that worked
incorrectly before because of the single application process were not
discovered, the new proccess has helped identify some of these and we are
correcting them. All in all the move to the service application is better
product.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:53 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

I'm surely with you about this Andy.  Already enough time spent dealing with
adjusting filters to control spam and it seems by this list; more time is
spent being a directory monitor and a bug reporter.  I'm not sure why
Declude went to a service application when it was processing emails fine;
or it should be an option of running as a service or not.  The way I see
this since the final release came out on 3.0x... There's been more and
more incremental releases even on correcting things that were working
before.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:33 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem


Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly scared of
upgrading Declude.

I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU consumption and why
certain process parameters are suspected to have detrimental effects.


Please verify my thinking:

A machine that needs to process a given amount of mail will require a
certain number of instructions, which are reflected in the total CPU usage.
If several messages come in almost simultaneously, then I can either process
them right away using parallel processes, causing a short spike in CPU use -
or I can process them one by one, using up the same CPU time over time and
causing a few seconds delay in mail delivery.

Either way, the overall CPU consumption should be the same - just
distributed differently.


So - if the above is true, how do I explain the apparent inconsistency where
users report that the CPU consumption is considerable higher than in the
prior version? How can the various process settings make any difference -
at worst it should spike quickly and then be idle?

If the old Declude handled the amount of mail with moderate CPU use and
without causing noticeable delays in mail delivery to the users - then I
can't see how the same outcome suddenly should require x times the CPU
resources, no matter how inefficient the process settings are? What is
spending all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for directory content?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
Webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about avg 50%.   I'll try
WAITFORMAIL in just a bit.

I also noticed in my spool folder I have a new folder called s that
appeared with the time stamp of the new proc install.  There is nothing in
it; just a blank folder. I deleted it.


Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net


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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

Randy try changing

WAITFORMAIL 1500

To

WAITFORMAIL 500

See if that changes the delay.

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GlobalWeb.net
Webmaster
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in that it's way
down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will accumulate approx 35-50
messages before it'll dump them to the work folder.  Do not see any problems
so far except for the second or two delay in this...

We have in our declude.cfg:
THREADS 50
WAITFORMAIL 1500
WAITFORTHREADS  1000
WAITBETWEENTHREADS  1




Sincerely,

Randy Armbrecht
Global Web Solutions, Inc.
804-346-5300 x112
877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
http://globalweb.net



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: 'Technical

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

2005-10-25 Thread David Barker
Nothing except what I had posted earlier in the code has changed. And the
changes should not have effected the CPU in anyway. 

Unless we can replicate the issue it becomes very difficult to resolve. If
you can send me any data that shows what you are seeing, we can then try
replicate the problem.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Vanderzand
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem

It seems to me that something changed in the code

If all I do is change from V9 to V11 and I see a noticeable difference, then
it has to be caused by a change in the code from V9 to V11.  No other
hardware or software was changed!!!

I have gotten direction to change settings, however that in no way addresses
the point I am making.

I have not seen that addressed.

Harry Vanderzand
inTown Internet  Computer Services
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:33 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly 
 scared of upgrading Declude.
 
 I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU 
 consumption and why certain process parameters are suspected 
 to have detrimental effects.
 
 
 Please verify my thinking:
 
 A machine that needs to process a given amount of mail will 
 require a certain number of instructions, which are reflected 
 in the total CPU usage.
 If several messages come in almost simultaneously, then I can 
 either process them right away using parallel processes, 
 causing a short spike in CPU use - or I can process them one 
 by one, using up the same CPU time over time and causing a 
 few seconds delay in mail delivery.
 
 Either way, the overall CPU consumption should be the same - 
 just distributed differently.
 
 
 So - if the above is true, how do I explain the apparent 
 inconsistency where users report that the CPU consumption is 
 considerable higher than in the prior version? How can the 
 various process settings make any difference - at worst it 
 should spike quickly and then be idle?
 
 If the old Declude handled the amount of mail with moderate 
 CPU use and without causing noticeable delays in mail 
 delivery to the users - then I can't see how the same outcome 
 suddenly should require x times the CPU resources, no matter 
 how inefficient the process settings are? What is spending 
 all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for directory content?
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about avg 
 50%.   I'll try
 WAITFORMAIL in just a bit.
 
 I also noticed in my spool folder I have a new folder called 
 s that appeared with the time stamp of the new proc 
 install.  There is nothing in it; just a blank folder. I deleted it.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Randy Armbrecht
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-346-5300 x112
 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
 http://globalweb.net
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Randy try changing
 
 WAITFORMAIL   1500
 
 To
 
 WAITFORMAIL   500
 
 See if that changes the delay.
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in 
 that it's way down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will 
 accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them to 
 the work folder.  Do not see any problems so far except for 
 the second or two delay in this...
 
 We have in our declude.cfg:
 THREADS   50
 WAITFORMAIL   1500
 WAITFORTHREADS  1000
 WAITBETWEENTHREADS1
 
 
 
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Randy Armbrecht
 Global Web Solutions, Inc.
 804-346-5300 x112
 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
 http://globalweb.net
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Harry Vanderzand
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Cc: 'Technical Support'
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
 
 Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer  invurbl
 
 The issue

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