Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
aNYTHING LIKE pRED SHOULD BE TAPERED OFF. dOESN'T HURT . Amani Oakley wrote: > It was my vet who told me this, once when I mentioned that I was tapering my > cat off prednisone and how important that was (which I knew to be the case in > humans). She said it really didn’t effect cats that way, and there was no > need to worry excessively about tapering off or putting them on prednisone > gradually. With the Winstrol, which is not a corticosteroid, it doesn’t have > the depressive effect on the immune system typical of prednisone, so long > term use has other potential side effects associated with it, but that isn’t > one of them. Nonetheless, where possible, I usually will still taper off the > prednisone. I am not so concerned anymore about increasing the dose gradually. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: June-08-16 4:48 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... > > I know you feel that way. I still can’t help but worry about long term use > with something that suppresses the immune system when they are so susceptible > to other infections and cancers as it is. If there is no other option besides > long term use then it is what it is. I just hope Bob’s kitty doesn’t need it > long term or at least can take the least amount possible to control it, and I > hope there is something else he can use to help control it better so he needs > less. I gave Tucker prednisone right up until the end so we could spend > every moment possible together. Without it I wouldn’t have gotten that extra > month and a half with him. I wish it could have kept him going forever. > > From: Felvtalk > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] > On Behalf Of Amani Oakley > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:11 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... > > Actually Rachel, with cats, who have a very different metabolism than we do > (or dogs for that matter) they seem to do very very well on steroids and do > not suffer the kinds of side effects one sees in humans on long term > prednisone use, etc. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Rachel Dagner > Sent: June-08-16 11:43 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... > > What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, > taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does > turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that > is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that > works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at > least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a > company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal > glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he > uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their > products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them > up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. > I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he > told you to do a diminishing dose. > > From: Felvtalk > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] > On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... > > Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note > more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet > expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one > prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye > 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing > dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I > am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol > ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know > if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is > discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. > From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only > remits > Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
Wondering what the vet’s reason for not wanting to prescribe Winstrol? Ardy From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 10:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis
- Original Message - From: "Jane Gannon" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Hi Bob, I have had uveitis in two of my positive cats. One we gave metacam (many vets will not use this anymore as it can cause kidney disease) and neo poly dex opthalmic ointment. It did clear it up. The other one we gave the same ointment and a shot of depo medrol and this also cleared it up. This is an inflammation of the eye and must be treated with something to treat inflammation such as prednisone or metacam along with the ointment. Doing nothing is not the answer. Sometimes vets do have different opinions but you should pick the one you think is right. Or get a third opinionI feel very bad for your kitty as this is very painful. Jane - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! Amani Oakley wrote: Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats. Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case..?? Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard" Bob Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
Really really interesting Margo. I had no idea but that was my experience with cats as well. They seem to have a weird metabolism that just thrives on steroids and, as far as I can tell so far anyway, they don’t seem to have a lot of downside effects either. Good to know my instincts all these years were something more than just conjecture. Thank you for that information. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Margo Sent: June-08-16 5:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Old Vet saying when confronted with unknown unresponsive conditions in cats; "never let a cat die without benefit of steroids" In a last ditch effort, steroids "the silver bullet" can sometimes pull a dying cat back, and in most cases no-one really understands why. I have one here now. So I'm with Amani. They're often worth a shot. But they do need to be tapered off. Margo -Original Message- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Jun 8, 2016 4:11 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Actually Rachel, with cats, who have a very different metabolism than we do (or dogs for that matter) they seem to do very very well on steroids and do not suffer the kinds of side effects one sees in humans on long term prednisone use, etc. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: June-08-16 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
Old Vet saying when confronted with unknown unresponsive conditions in cats; "never let a cat die without benefit of steroids"In a last ditch effort, steroids "the silver bullet" can sometimes pull a dying cat back, and in most cases no-one really understands why. I have one here now. So I'm with Amani. They're often worth a shot. But they do need to be tapered off.Margo-Original Message- From: Amani Oakley Sent: Jun 8, 2016 4:11 PM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Actually Rachel, with cats, who have a very different metabolism than we do (or dogs for that matter) they seem to do very very well on steroids and do not suffer the kinds of side effects one sees in humans on long term prednisone use, etc. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: June-08-16 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
I know you feel that way. I still can’t help but worry about long term use with something that suppresses the immune system when they are so susceptible to other infections and cancers as it is. If there is no other option besides long term use then it is what it is. I just hope Bob’s kitty doesn’t need it long term or at least can take the least amount possible to control it, and I hope there is something else he can use to help control it better so he needs less. I gave Tucker prednisone right up until the end so we could spend every moment possible together. Without it I wouldn’t have gotten that extra month and a half with him. I wish it could have kept him going forever. *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Amani Oakley *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:11 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Actually Rachel, with cats, who have a very different metabolism than we do (or dogs for that matter) they seem to do very very well on steroids and do not suffer the kinds of side effects one sees in humans on long term prednisone use, etc. Amani *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org ] *On Behalf Of *Rachel Dagner *Sent:* June-08-16 11:43 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *ROBERT CHAPEL *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
Actually Rachel, with cats, who have a very different metabolism than we do (or dogs for that matter) they seem to do very very well on steroids and do not suffer the kinds of side effects one sees in humans on long term prednisone use, etc. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Rachel Dagner Sent: June-08-16 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
You can buy Standard Process on Amazon or eBay, or just get an order form from someone else who uses their product. My Mom ordered all the time, and sent me order blanks often. They also have on their websites how to find a Vet that will connect you (or order for you for a fee).Margo-Original Message- From: Rachel Dagner Sent: Jun 8, 2016 11:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPELSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remitsAgainthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Robert, If you need someone to get the Standard Process formulas for you - there is a chiropracter just over the NJ border (in Sussex) that carries them. His name is Dr Wm Preston 973-875-8700. You can tell him Kat recommended him. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 at 11:43 AM From: "Rachel Dagner" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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What a relief it is helping, I am so glad! I pray that it is not chronic, taking steroids for long periods especially for life is not good. If it does turn out to be chronic maybe you could ask a holistic vet what they use that is more natural and easier on the system for long term use, and see if that works so you can try to wean off the prednisone, it would be worth a try at least, I searched uveitis in my handy Marty Goldstein book, and it says a company called Eli Lilly invested millions of dollars in researching animal glandulars, they used cow eye protein for uveitis, one of the companies he uses for his glandulars is called Standard Process you can’t buy their products unless you are a qualified health care professional ( I looked them up) but maybe your vet can help you get something like that to try if needed. I have read that you should never stop prednisone suddenly so I am glad he told you to do a diminishing dose. *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *ROBERT CHAPEL *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:09 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis... Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis...
Thank you all for your suggestions re: Uveitis. As I wrote the original note more than a week ago much has happened since I went back to see the Vet expecting to get Winstrol and got a different vet instead. THIS one prescribed Prednisolone Opthalmic Ointment 3-4X qd for the badly affected eye 2x for the less affected... Oral Prednisolone for two weeks ( diminishing dose) and Buprenorphine for pain.. My guy is improving quite a bit and I am so happy. BUT... this vet is not on board with prescribing Winstrol ... Won't go into my impressions as to why at this time. Anyone know if improvement lasts for any length of time once the cortisone is discontinued or must it be continued ( at a lower dose) indefinitely. From Everything I have read this is a generally chronic condition that only remits Againthank you all for your input and suggestions It is a BIG help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Bob, I have had uveitis in two of my positive cats. One we gave metacam (many vets will not use this anymore as it can cause kidney disease) and neo poly dex opthalmic ointment. It did clear it up. The other one we gave the same ointment and a shot of depo medrol and this also cleared it up. This is an inflammation of the eye and must be treated with something to treat inflammation such as prednisone or metacam along with the ointment. Doing nothing is not the answer. Sometimes vets do have different opinions but you should pick the one you think is right. Or get a third opinionI feel very bad for your kitty as this is very painful. Jane - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! Amani Oakley wrote: Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats. Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case..?? Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard" Bob Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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A beautiful story! I had a miniture poodle who lost her sight to cataracts. We had gotten 2 new cats. One day, we discovered that the cats were bring mice for her to "hunt" and when they got out of her sight, they would pat them and run them back into her line of sight. They also kept her out of the road by bumping into her and guiding her back into the yard. Animals are so wonderful. These 2 cats who never knew Pia before, were looking after her as though she was part of their family. Pia lived to 19 good years, all we had to do is never change the furniture or placement of food and water bowls and she never seemed to notice the change in her life. Ardy Robertson wrote: > On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to see kitty > be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed away, and she lived to > be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two years of her life -- completely > blind. But for some reason it did not hinder her. She adapted. We did not > really even notice anything other than she went up and down the steps on the > far right side, so she nearly touched the wall as she went. Then she mostly > stayed near the outside wall of the room. I would put her kitty beds touching > the wall where she felt comfortable. She found her dishes because they were > where they always were. She continued to interact with us as if nothing had > happened. She came when we called her and would lay on our laps and purr etc. > As long as she was not in pain, we just let her be. We had another cat (that > we still have - Peekers) and she was young at that time, and they interacted > as if nothing was wrong. Then one day in 2005 she just went to sleep > peacefully. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is > caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. > Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough > while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone > and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > > Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. > I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX > with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet > counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers > Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the > Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is > getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so > important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my > guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the > first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called > " normal " cats.Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in > this case..?? > > Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes > a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up > but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do > further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it > nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO > hard" > > Bob > Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to see kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed away, and she lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two years of her life -- completely blind. But for some reason it did not hinder her. She adapted. We did not really even notice anything other than she went up and down the steps on the far right side, so she nearly touched the wall as she went. Then she mostly stayed near the outside wall of the room. I would put her kitty beds touching the wall where she felt comfortable. She found her dishes because they were where they always were. She continued to interact with us as if nothing had happened. She came when we called her and would lay on our laps and purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let her be. We had another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was young at that time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then one day in 2005 she just went to sleep peacefully. -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is > caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. > Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough > while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone > and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > > Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. > I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX > with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet > counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers > Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the > Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is > getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so > important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my > guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the > first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called > " normal " cats.Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in > this case..?? > > Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes > a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up > but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do > further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it > nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO > hard" > > Bob > Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Actually, I am glad for so many knowledgeable people in this group who seem to know more than most vets around the country. Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is > caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. > Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough > while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone > and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > > Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. > I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX > with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet > counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers > Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the > Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is > getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so > important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my > guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the > first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called > " normal " cats.Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in > this case..?? > > Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes > a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up > but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do > further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it > nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO > hard" > > Bob > Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! Amani Oakley wrote: > Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is > caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. > Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough > while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone > and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > > Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. > I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX > with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet > counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers > Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the > Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is > getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so > important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my > guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the > first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called > " normal " cats.Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in > this case..?? > > Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes > a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up > but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do > further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it > nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO > hard" > > Bob > Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I wish I had more to offer. I found this;http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/feline-uveitis-review-its-causes-diagnosis-and-treatment?id=&pageID=1&sk=&date=and more specific to treatment, this;http://veterinarymedicine.dvm360.com/nonspecific-therapy-uveitisI would read and take to whichever Vet seems more amenable to what you think might be the best course, considering wat you already know about your cat.Sorry I don't have better answers.Margo-Original Message- From: ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: May 27, 2016 11:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats. Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case..??Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard"Bob Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Bob, I’d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won’t be enough while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats.Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case..?? Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard" Bob Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats. I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect the other vet counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye. It is getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so important I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my guy go blind. The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the first line treatment but this is for the disease as it affects so called " normal " cats. Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone Tx in this case..?? Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking up but. He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to do further testing. Again it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO hard" Bob Warwick NY ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks. Yeah the vet feels like it is systemic rather than the injury itself since that has healed. Poor baby. She pulls away some when I give her the eye meds but not as bad as when she's getting the liquid antibiotics shoved down her throat. She acts like I'm killing her then. So I don't think her eye is extremely painful just judging by her reaction to the eye meds. Haven't seen her pawing at the eye or anything either. I hope she doesn't lose the eye. He talked about sending her to a vet opthamologist (sp?) if it's not better when he re-checks her in 10 days. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:14:42 -0700 From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Oh yes..but in the rescues or just neutered, any type of stress would lower the inmune system so oportunistic infections like eye infections occur. Uveitis is more serious, it is a symptom not a disease. And it is very, very painful. The eye is reddened as irritated and it is swollen, might or no have a discharge. Last FeLV+ I had got uveitis in her last days when she was very ill, I put her down shortly after because she was in so much pain and had gone blind, so as for her I didn't do anything. I had a FIV+ that had uveitis on and off in his last month, he had other infections so was treated for that and with Interpheron to bring down the swelling. My cat that had glaucoma also developed uveitis and had to have surgery. Like I said it is a very painful condition, I suppose Interferon can do something, abx would only act against infections, which she'd be prone to if she has FeLV..all the best to your lil' girlie Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Aw! Poor kitty! I hate to hear of this! I've actually had it myself. In my personal experience, it was painful and I was very sensitive to light. I had steroid drops but don't recall the name of the RX. It sounds like you have enough meds to hopefully improve the redness and irritation to her eye. I wish I could tell you more because you are always so helpful to me. Keep me posted ~ Best wishes too!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org t Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm not getting doubles. Of course I don't read every single post anymore but it doesn't look like I get doubles from the same person. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:27:15 -0400 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Has anyone noticed that we get “double” mailings? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis I have had a kitten with a severely scratched cornea. After treatment for a week the eye continued to not heal and ultimately the eye was surgically removed. After that it healed well. Her eye was in really bad shape though. Corneal abrasions generally heal quickly, but with felv it may hinder the healing. I would recommend vitamin c (mega c can be order via internet and works well) as well as colloidal silver (mesosilver is a good quality colloidal silver) and finally tonic (a herbal mixture of four herbs that promote healing and support the immune system - a great group for advice on this is group 2053 - I can give you the email address if you're interested). Oh wait one more thing - standard process has an immune support supplement that you could add as well as a whole body support supplement if you're interested. There are a host of choices - personally I'd start with mega c and silver as the vitamin c helps with wound healing and silver both helps with wound healing and is a great antimicrobial. Good luck. Jenny On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Maureen Olvey wrote:Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks Lynda. The flurbiprofen is a human drug and the vet said it was for inflammation so I wonder if that is what you had. He didn't say whether it was a steroid or not though. What caused your uveitis? Has it ever returned? “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:09:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Aw! Poor kitty! I hate to hear of this! I've actually had it myself. In my personal experience, it was painful and I was very sensitive to light. I had steroid drops but don't recall the name of the RX. It sounds like you have enough meds to hopefully improve the redness and irritation to her eye. I wish I could tell you more because you are always so helpful to me. Keep me posted ~ Best wishes too!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Has anyone noticed that we get "double" mailings? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis I have had a kitten with a severely scratched cornea. After treatment for a week the eye continued to not heal and ultimately the eye was surgically removed. After that it healed well. Her eye was in really bad shape though. Corneal abrasions generally heal quickly, but with felv it may hinder the healing. I would recommend vitamin c (mega c can be order via internet and works well) as well as colloidal silver (mesosilver is a good quality colloidal silver) and finally tonic (a herbal mixture of four herbs that promote healing and support the immune system - a great group for advice on this is group 2053 - I can give you the email address if you're interested). Oh wait one more thing - standard process has an immune support supplement that you could add as well as a whole body support supplement if you're interested. There are a host of choices - personally I'd start with mega c and silver as the vitamin c helps with wound healing and silver both helps with wound healing and is a great antimicrobial. Good luck. Jenny On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Maureen Olvey wrote: Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh yes..but in the rescues or just neutered, any type of stress would lower the inmune system so oportunistic infections like eye infections occur. Uveitis is more serious, it is a symptom not a disease. And it is very, very painful. The eye is reddened as irritated and it is swollen, might or no have a discharge. Last FeLV+ I had got uveitis in her last days when she was very ill, I put her down shortly after because she was in so much pain and had gone blind, so as for her I didn't do anything. I had a FIV+ that had uveitis on and off in his last month, he had other infections so was treated for that and with Interpheron to bring down the swelling. My cat that had glaucoma also developed uveitis and had to have surgery. Like I said it is a very painful condition, I suppose Interferon can do something, abx would only act against infections, which she'd be prone to if she has FeLV..all the best to your lil' girlie Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ From: Lynda Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Aw! Poor kitty! I hate to hear of this! I've actually had it myself. In my personal experience, it was painful and I was very sensitive to light. I had steroid drops but don't recall the name of the RX. It sounds like you have enough meds to hopefully improve the redness and irritation to her eye. I wish I could tell you more because you are always so helpful to me. Keep me posted ~ Best wishes too!! Lynda - Original Message - >From: Maureen Olvey >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org t >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:13 AM >Subject: [Felvtalk] Uveitis > > >Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a >scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really >red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and >redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon >Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. > > >“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are >profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon >unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me >sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis
Actually after one week of treatment with terramycin and clavamox and flurbiprofen the vet did an eye stain and the scratches had healed. It wasn't actually a corneal abrasion I don't think, just some minor scratches. Not all eye injuries affect the cornea right? That was my understanding anyway but I could be wrong since I don't completely understand the anatomy of the eye. But he said it's all healed. Actually I read that just having FeLV can cause uveitis so that's why the vet is assuming it is still irritated. We're using the interferon alpha to boost her immune system. Since the eye has healed should I bother with Vitamin C and silver? Also I'm giving her lysine even though this isn't herpes related. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:43:21 -0500 From: jb...@tds.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis I have had a kitten with a severely scratched cornea. After treatment for a week the eye continued to not heal and ultimately the eye was surgically removed. After that it healed well. Her eye was in really bad shape though. Corneal abrasions generally heal quickly, but with felv it may hinder the healing. I would recommend vitamin c (mega c can be order via internet and works well) as well as colloidal silver (mesosilver is a good quality colloidal silver) and finally tonic (a herbal mixture of four herbs that promote healing and support the immune system - a great group for advice on this is group 2053 - I can give you the email address if you're interested). Oh wait one more thing - standard process has an immune support supplement that you could add as well as a whole body support supplement if you're interested. There are a host of choices - personally I'd start with mega c and silver as the vitamin c helps with wound healing and silver both helps with wound healing and is a great antimicrobial. Good luck. Jenny On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Maureen Olvey wrote: Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis
I have had a kitten with a severely scratched cornea. After treatment for a week the eye continued to not heal and ultimately the eye was surgically removed. After that it healed well. Her eye was in really bad shape though. Corneal abrasions generally heal quickly, but with felv it may hinder the healing. I would recommend vitamin c (mega c can be order via internet and works well) as well as colloidal silver (mesosilver is a good quality colloidal silver) and finally tonic (a herbal mixture of four herbs that promote healing and support the immune system - a great group for advice on this is group 2053 - I can give you the email address if you're interested). Oh wait one more thing - standard process has an immune support supplement that you could add as well as a whole body support supplement if you're interested. There are a host of choices - personally I'd start with mega c and silver as the vitamin c helps with wound healing and silver both helps with wound healing and is a great antimicrobial. Good luck. Jenny On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Maureen Olvey wrote: > Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a > scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still > really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the > irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and > Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment > in the eye. > > > *“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that > are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts > upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to > me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark > Twain* > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis
Yes, rescued/trapped stray cats often have it, and they seem to forever have some kind of eye problems.not serious, but watery, goopy, etc. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Uveitis
Aw! Poor kitty! I hate to hear of this! I've actually had it myself. In my personal experience, it was painful and I was very sensitive to light. I had steroid drops but don't recall the name of the RX. It sounds like you have enough meds to hopefully improve the redness and irritation to her eye. I wish I could tell you more because you are always so helpful to me. Keep me posted ~ Best wishes too!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Uveitis Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Uveitis
Anyone ever dealt with Uveitis (eye inflammation)? My FeLV kitten had a scratch or something in her eye but that is healed but her eye is still really red and irritated. The vet suspects her FeLV is causing the irritation and redness to continue. Right now she's taking Baytril and Clavamox, Interferon Alpha, and Flurobiprofen drops and Terramycin ointment in the eye. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org