Acrobat and Flash (was: Release Date for ...)
Yves, You wrote: >I tried to take a look at this example, but I got an error message saying: > >"Requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or >inaccurate." ;-( Did you click the [SWF] link at the bottom right corner in http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultiMedia_Acro6.pdf? It points to the following file: http://www.turbodemo.com/demos/PalmDemo.swf and I have just double-checked that it is accessible, both from within the PDF as well as directly. (as I mentioned, some of the other web links may not be accessible) You may try and add a Flash file available locally to a PDF using Acrobat Professional 6 or 7 (link or embed). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
figure titles in webworks
Hi Lilah, On 5/18/06, Lilah Johnson wrote: > Hi Bodvar- > Actually, this is the code generated by WebWorks, and it is supposed to be > simple > HTML. I was afraid sol > I did not personally write the HTML. I am sure I could tweak the HTML as you > suggested (and thanks so much for the careful analysis!), but I wanted to > change the WebWorks configuration so that it does not do this every time I > generate help. I want to be able to use WebWorks without having to change all > the HTML code if possible. Does anyone have a suggestion for why WebWorks is > structuring my HTML in this way? I am guessing the problem arises because the > figure is autonumbered, and WebWorks seems to be using different settings for > the figure title and the figure number (as you explained below). I would > assume that WebWorks would be smart enough to apply the same settings to the > figure title and figure number? Is it possible that WW is picking up some > setting from Frame? > Any help would be MUCH appreciated! > Thanks! > Well, as I said before, I am not into WW yet, but there must be someone on the list that can help. :-) BTW, thanks to Sean for his reply here to me. From his reply I am fairly optimistic that redundancy in coding can be made using a proper set of rules. And now as the Eurovision Song Contest semifinals are starting in less than three hours: Go go, Silvia Night! (http://www.esctoday.com/, http://www.eurovision.tv/english/index.htm, http://www.silvianight.com) Bodvar.
Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see "technical" writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply "don't like it" or "it doesn't look right". And then justifying their whole scale design changes on their limited exposure to one limited field of techwriting and techwriters. Anyone who will redesign a document or glibly dismiss existing standards or traditions simply for what "looks better" without researching the issue and reasons for the style or getting solid evidence the current usage either hinders production or user understanding without providing benefits to at least a subset of users doesn't really deserve the title of "technical" IMO. While technical documents need not forgo good design, they should not forgo function for the sake of design. Reluctantly submitting to the style guide and complaining it's only "because the engineers want it that way" is little better. As technical writers, we owe it to our audiences to understand their needs and requirements as well as the technical information we are trying to convey. Sometimes too, it requires the humility to understand that the system/layout you don't like may have no logical or relevant reason behind it, but not liking it is just as baseless a decision. In the event of conflicting arbitrary decisions, continuing with the current standard for consistency is usually the way to go. So, if you want to make a change, you need not prove the previous method wrong, but prove the new method superior. Daniel Emory wrote on 05/17/2006 10:36:11 PM: > Even relatively simple on-line help docs should have > some sort of numbering scheme. Typically, users who > can't figure out something from the on-line help will > resort to a customer help line or in-house expert. If > the user can give the help specialist the number of > the particular on-line help content where the user is > stuck, ambiguity is eliminated, a successful > resolution of the problem is more likely, and the time > to arrive at the correct solution is likely to be > minimized. Too true. If the numbers wouldn't describe structure, even a random number (the internal help topic number?) that could be made visible would make referencing, commenting, and updating the system much simpler. Or, in my experience, the user may be able to stop travelling a circular path of references a little sooner if the organisational structure of the help file was more apparent. Perhaps the numbering may even avoid confusion between two similar yet subtly different topics. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou prot?g?s et est destin? ? l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les pr?sentes avis?e qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez re?u par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et d?truire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilis?e afin d'assurer la s?curit? de nos systems d'information et qu'elle fur?tera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ (See attached file: C.htm) -- next part ------ An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: C.htm Url: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20060518/c40fe88f/attachment.ksh
Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am using. That, I can agree wholeheartedly, sucks. As a self-taught FM user, it takes hours, literally hours to figure out some new operation or feature in Framemaker. Operations/features, I might add, that were pretty much intuitive in Pagemaker or Quark. If you're going to have a user-hostile interface, at least have some decent documentation. Most of the hours I spend trying to figure things out are spent searching forums on the Web. However, doing decent documentation costs money. Adobe obviously has saved a lot of money here. I feel as if, if I'm ever going to reach any level of proficiency with this program, it's going to mean going to a training class. Now, that's great for independent trainers, not so great for me, since I'll have to pay for something that IMHO shouldn't be needed. You should perhaps need training to be a "power user" ... not to just figure out how to perform common operations. ljk ___ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. Daniel Emory Sent by: framers-bounces+laura_j_kirk=bd.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/18/2006 02:16 PM To Framers List cc Subject RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals --- Anne Robotti wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the sender. My default email setup only identifies the sender in the From line, thus, when I hit reply, only the sender's name appears in the To line. Since the thread originated on the Framers list, I presumptively added the list name on the cc line in my reply. I usually check first to see if that is proper, but this time I failed to do so. I'll be more careful in the future. My bad. Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more discussion on the list. And by the way, I do not apologize for describing most on-line help as shovelware. If that is offensive to some, so be it. The FrameMaker on-line help in versions 4 and earlier was far superior to the shovelware that replaced it in later versions. That, coupled with the much less complete printed manual, makes life more difficult for newbies. Many of the FrameMaker issues which come up over and over again on this list should be answered by declaring RTFM. Unfortuantely, that recommendation no longer applies in many cases. The same goes for the Acrobat manual. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Laura_J_Kirk at bd.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/laura_j_kirk%40bd.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR RECIPIENTS IN THE U.S.A: This message may constitute an advertisement of BD group's products or services or a solicitation of interest in them. If this is such a message and you would like to opt out of receiving future advertisements or solicitations from this BD group, please forward this e-mail to the optoutbygroup at bd.com. ** This message (which includes any attachments) is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to attorney-client privilege or other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, use, copy or distribute this message. If you received this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank You ** Corporate Headquarters Mailing Address: BD (Becton, Dickinson and Company) 1 Becton Drive Franklin Lakes, NJ 07417 U.S.A.
"Intuitive software" WAS: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Hi, Laura: At 3:08 PM -0400 5/18/06, Laura_J_Kirk at bd.com wrote: >I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am >using. That, I can agree wholeheartedly, sucks. > >As a self-taught FM user, it takes hours, literally hours to figure out >some new operation or feature in Framemaker. Operations/features, I might >add, that were pretty much intuitive in Pagemaker or Quark. If you're >going to have a user-hostile interface, at least have some decent >documentation. Most of the hours I spend trying to figure things out are >spent searching forums on the Web. I've been an independent FrameMaker trainer and user since FrameMaker 2.x. If you mean by "intuitive," "everything I used to know falls into place in new environments," then there's no surprise that you're disappointed in finding that your PageMaker and QuarkXPress skills and experience don't fit right into FrameMaker. I've found that usually "intuitive" means "familiar." Yes, FrameMaker's interface is different from other tools. However, if you cruise the InDesign forums, and probably Apple's Pages forums, and perhaps MS's Publisher's, and Ventura Publisher's, you'd probably find the same new-user frustrations voiced by those who are having "culture clash" when they first encounter the new tools. FrameMaker's features and operations are highly consistent, so what you do learn in one area usually helps you pick up speed as you enter new areas. If you total the number of hours you've spent independently searching for solutions and multiply them by your average hourly pay, you'll have something concrete to help you compare to the cost of training you might have taken. >However, doing decent documentation costs money. Adobe obviously has saved >a lot of money here. I feel as if, if I'm ever going to reach any level of >proficiency with this program, it's going to mean going to a training >class. Now, that's great for independent trainers, not so great for me, >since I'll have to pay for something that IMHO shouldn't be needed. You >should perhaps need training to be a "power user" ... not to just figure >out how to perform common operations. One of the key misunderstandings about FrameMaker and other publishing tools in its class (yes there are a few), is that they combine the skill sets that used to be performed by as many as six or seven separate professionals into the one job description of "technical author." If you list all the tasks that you've faced as a technical author so far, and those that you expect to face, you'll probably see that nearly everything on the long list is within FrameMaker's capabilities. In my view, the job is what's hard and not necessarily intuitive; FrameMaker is just the tool that you use to do the job. In addition to Adobe's FrameMaker documentation, the Classroom In A Book is a useful learning tool (though there are some errors that can "throw" you off), and FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference, are among supplementary learning resources you can use on your own. You'll find a bunch in a Google search or two. >ljk >___ >Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. This is how I usually feel about criticisms of something for being "non-intuitive," when it's really "not familiar." Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Adobe Certified Expert FrameMaker - Acrobat - InDesign
printing framemaker documents
Automatically rotating pages is set in Acrobat Distiller. Settings>Job Options, General tab. You specify rotation individually or collectively by file. //Paul
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see "technical" writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply "don't like it" or "it doesn't look right". And then justifying their whole scale design changes on their limited exposure to one limited field of techwriting and techwriters. Anyone who will redesign a document or glibly dismiss existing standards or traditions simply for what "looks better" without researching the issue and reasons for the style or getting solid evidence the current usage either hinders production or user understanding without providing benefits to at least a subset of users doesn't really deserve the title of "technical" IMO. While technical documents need not forgo good design, they should not forgo function for the sake of design. Reluctantly submitting to the style guide and complaining it's only "because the engineers want it that way" is little better. As technical writers, we owe it to our audiences to understand their needs and requirements as well as the technical information we are trying to convey. Sometimes too, it requires the humility to understand that the system/layout you don't like may have no logical or relevant reason behind it, but not liking it is just as baseless a decision. In the event of conflicting arbitrary decisions, continuing with the current standard for consistency is usually the way to go. So, if you want to make a change, you need not prove the previous method wrong, but prove the new method superior. Daniel Emory wrote on 05/17/2006 10:36:11 PM: > Even relatively simple on-line help docs should have > some sort of numbering scheme. Typically, users who > can't figure out something from the on-line help will > resort to a customer help line or in-house expert. If > the user can give the help specialist the number of > the particular on-line help content where the user is > stuck, ambiguity is eliminated, a successful > resolution of the problem is more likely, and the time > to arrive at the correct solution is likely to be > minimized. Too true. If the numbers wouldn't describe structure, even a random number (the internal help topic number?) that could be made visible would make referencing, commenting, and updating the system much simpler. Or, in my experience, the user may be able to stop travelling a circular path of references a little sooner if the organisational structure of the help file was more apparent. Perhaps the numbering may even avoid confusion between two similar yet subtly different topics. Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ (See attached file: C.htm) Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see "technical" writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply "don't like it" or "it doesn't look right". And then justifying their whole scale design changes on their limited exposure to one limited field of techwriting and techwriters. Anyone who will redesign a document or glibly dismiss existing standards or traditions simply for what "looks better" without researching the issue and reasons for the style or getting solid evidence the current usage either hinders production or user understanding without
"Intuitive software" WAS: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Hi, Laura: At 3:08 PM -0400 5/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am using. That, I can agree wholeheartedly, sucks. As a self-taught FM user, it takes hours, literally hours to figure out some new operation or feature in Framemaker. Operations/features, I might add, that were pretty much intuitive in Pagemaker or Quark. If you're going to have a user-hostile interface, at least have some decent documentation. Most of the hours I spend trying to figure things out are spent searching forums on the Web. I've been an independent FrameMaker trainer and user since FrameMaker 2.x. If you mean by "intuitive," "everything I used to know falls into place in new environments," then there's no surprise that you're disappointed in finding that your PageMaker and QuarkXPress skills and experience don't fit right into FrameMaker. I've found that usually "intuitive" means "familiar." Yes, FrameMaker's interface is different from other tools. However, if you cruise the InDesign forums, and probably Apple's Pages forums, and perhaps MS's Publisher's, and Ventura Publisher's, you'd probably find the same new-user frustrations voiced by those who are having "culture clash" when they first encounter the new tools. FrameMaker's features and operations are highly consistent, so what you do learn in one area usually helps you pick up speed as you enter new areas. If you total the number of hours you've spent independently searching for solutions and multiply them by your average hourly pay, you'll have something concrete to help you compare to the cost of training you might have taken. However, doing decent documentation costs money. Adobe obviously has saved a lot of money here. I feel as if, if I'm ever going to reach any level of proficiency with this program, it's going to mean going to a training class. Now, that's great for independent trainers, not so great for me, since I'll have to pay for something that IMHO shouldn't be needed. You should perhaps need training to be a "power user" ... not to just figure out how to perform common operations. One of the key misunderstandings about FrameMaker and other publishing tools in its class (yes there are a few), is that they combine the skill sets that used to be performed by as many as six or seven separate professionals into the one job description of "technical author." If you list all the tasks that you've faced as a technical author so far, and those that you expect to face, you'll probably see that nearly everything on the long list is within FrameMaker's capabilities. In my view, the job is what's hard and not necessarily intuitive; FrameMaker is just the tool that you use to do the job. In addition to Adobe's FrameMaker documentation, the Classroom In A Book is a useful learning tool (though there are some errors that can "throw" you off), and FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference, are among supplementary learning resources you can use on your own. You'll find a bunch in a Google search or two. ljk ___ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. This is how I usually feel about criticisms of something for being "non-intuitive," when it's really "not familiar." Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices Adobe Certified Expert FrameMaker - Acrobat - InDesign ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 7.2 and WebWorks
You'll need to install the version of WWP SE that came with FM 7.2. An older version of WWP does not work with a newer version of FM, generally. (Hard to predict the next version for compatability...) There's an upgrade path for templates in WWP Pro/WWeP Pro but I do not have first-hand knowledge of whether there is one for WWP SE. On 5/18/06, Steve Gillespie wrote: > Greetings: > > I just upgraded to Frame 7.2 on Win2000, and discovered that my 'old" > WWP-SE7 projects will not work ... > > Do I have to install the new WWP-SE8? - and will it 'recognize' my old WWP7 > projects, or do I have to import them or something? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com
Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Is this a private email from Linda that you posted to the list? How completely rude. *That* is surely a netiquette violation, I've never been on an email list or newsgroup where it was tolerated. Anne > -Original Message- > From: > framers-bounces+arobotti=journalregister.com at lists.frameusers. > com > [mailto:framers-bounces+arobotti=journalregister.com at lists.fra meusers.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:31 AM > To: lindag at techcomplus.com > Cc: Framers List > Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals > > --- "Linda G. Gallagher" > wrote: > > I don't think it was necessary to single out my response > and call what > > I said laughable. The information contained in or attached to this e-mail contains confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail is PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail immediately. Thank you.
QUESTION: Word xrefs into FM
A few details on the process you're using to convert would be helpful Art On 5/18/06, Grant Hogarth wrote: > I've got to convert a MS Word (2003) doc to FM, however, the xrefs (& > also index markers) do not seem to be coming across. The morning coffee > is not working today, as I'm trying to remember if this is unavoidable, > or if there is a way to have them sucessfully transfer. > > Grant -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am using. That, I can agree wholeheartedly, sucks. As a self-taught FM user, it takes hours, literally hours to figure out some new operation or feature in Framemaker. Operations/features, I might add, that were pretty much intuitive in Pagemaker or Quark. If you're going to have a user-hostile interface, at least have some decent documentation. Most of the hours I spend trying to figure things out are spent searching forums on the Web. However, doing decent documentation costs money. Adobe obviously has saved a lot of money here. I feel as if, if I'm ever going to reach any level of proficiency with this program, it's going to mean going to a training class. Now, that's great for independent trainers, not so great for me, since I'll have to pay for something that IMHO shouldn't be needed. You should perhaps need training to be a "power user" ... not to just figure out how to perform common operations. ljk ___ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. Daniel Emory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/2006 02:16 PM To Framers List cc Subject RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals --- Anne Robotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the sender. My default email setup only identifies the sender in the From line, thus, when I hit reply, only the sender's name appears in the To line. Since the thread originated on the Framers list, I presumptively added the list name on the cc line in my reply. I usually check first to see if that is proper, but this time I failed to do so. I'll be more careful in the future. My bad. Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more discussion on the list. And by the way, I do not apologize for describing most on-line help as shovelware. If that is offensive to some, so be it. The FrameMaker on-line help in versions 4 and earlier was far superior to the shovelware that replaced it in later versions. That, coupled with the much less complete printed manual, makes life more difficult for newbies. Many of the FrameMaker issues which come up over and over again on this list should be answered by declaring RTFM. Unfortuantely, that recommendation no longer applies in many cases. The same goes for the Acrobat manual. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/laura_j_kirk%40bd.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR RECIPIENTS IN THE U.S.A: This message may constitute an advertisement of BD group's products or services or a solicitation of interest in them. If this is such a message and you would like to opt out of receiving future advertisements or solicitations from this BD group, please forward this e-mail to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This message (which includes any attachments) is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to attorney-client privilege or other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, use, copy or distribute this message. If you received this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank You ** Corporate Headquarters Mailing Address: BD (Becton, Dickinson and Company) 1 Becton Drive Franklin Lakes, NJ 07417 U.S.A. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
printing framemaker documents
Automatically rotating pages is set in Acrobat Distiller. Settings>Job Options, General tab. You specify rotation individually or collectively by file. //Paul ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
--- Anne Robotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the sender. My default email setup only identifies the sender in the From line, thus, when I hit reply, only the sender's name appears in the To line. Since the thread originated on the Framers list, I presumptively added the list name on the cc line in my reply. I usually check first to see if that is proper, but this time I failed to do so. I'll be more careful in the future. My bad. Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more discussion on the list. And by the way, I do not apologize for describing most on-line help as shovelware. If that is offensive to some, so be it. The FrameMaker on-line help in versions 4 and earlier was far superior to the shovelware that replaced it in later versions. That, coupled with the much less complete printed manual, makes life more difficult for newbies. Many of the FrameMaker issues which come up over and over again on this list should be answered by declaring RTFM. Unfortuantely, that recommendation no longer applies in many cases. The same goes for the Acrobat manual. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 7.2 and WebWorks
Greetings: I just upgraded to Frame 7.2 on Win2000, and discovered that my 'old" WWP-SE7 projects will not work ... Do I have to install the new WWP-SE8? - and will it 'recognize' my old WWP7 projects, or do I have to import them or something? Apprec any help. Thanks! Steve Gillespie, PMP FedEx Express, HR Measurement & Support 3670 Hacks Cross Rd., Bldg. G, 2nd Floor Memphis, TN 38125 901.434.9982 The information in this message is proprietary and confidential and is intended only for the recipient(s) listed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee, or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of the information in this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the original message.
Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
--- Anne Robotti wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the sender. My default email setup only identifies the sender in the From line, thus, when I hit reply, only the sender's name appears in the To line. Since the thread originated on the Framers list, I presumptively added the list name on the cc line in my reply. I usually check first to see if that is proper, but this time I failed to do so. I'll be more careful in the future. My bad. Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more discussion on the list. And by the way, I do not apologize for describing most on-line help as shovelware. If that is offensive to some, so be it. The FrameMaker on-line help in versions 4 and earlier was far superior to the shovelware that replaced it in later versions. That, coupled with the much less complete printed manual, makes life more difficult for newbies. Many of the FrameMaker issues which come up over and over again on this list should be answered by declaring RTFM. Unfortuantely, that recommendation no longer applies in many cases. The same goes for the Acrobat manual. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing
Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive
Thanks Fred. I have learned that sometimes the path of least resistance is the best solution. Don't ask why, do what works! Nandini -Original Message- From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:59 AM To: nandini at resonate.com Subject: RE: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive Use your local drive when making screen shots, since that method seems to work OK. Copy the screen shot files from your local drive to the network drive using Windows. Insert the graphics into your FrameMaker docs using the copies that you place on the network drive. >From: "Nandini Garud" >To: >CC: websupport at adobe.com >Subject: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive >Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:16:32 -0700 > >Using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows 2000 on the network drive (F), importing >screenshots saved using SnagIt 8.01. Want avoid gray boxes. > >Problems: > >1. When I saved screenshots to the F (network drive) drive, some >screenshots >saved as 1K files (too small a size compared to others), when tried to open >them, received format not recognized message. >2. When imported a .png image captured using SnagIt, by reference, in Frame >7.2, the FrameMaker book with 12 open files crashed, recover files >generated >for every file. Newly typed information not saved. >3. When saved .tif files of screenshots with SnagIt on the network drive, >some .TIF files appeared normal, while some with 1K, non-displayable >format. >These small files don't have anything to import. Message displayed: Frame >cannot recognize this file format, choose format to convert the file. >4. Copied Graphics folder and Book folder from F drive and put them on the >same level In C, the book still looks to the F folder for images. >Redirected >to C, but doesn't budge. > >Troubleshooting: > >1. When saved .TIF files to the local C folder, images appear normal, with >healthy 1 to 2 Meg file size. >2. Saved the images in the C folder to the Graphics folder on F, copied >from >there by reference. > >Thanks. Any suggestions very welcome. > >Nandini
RE: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive
Thanks Fred. I have learned that sometimes the path of least resistance is the best solution. Don't ask why, do what works! Nandini -Original Message- From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive Use your local drive when making screen shots, since that method seems to work OK. Copy the screen shot files from your local drive to the network drive using Windows. Insert the graphics into your FrameMaker docs using the copies that you place on the network drive. >From: "Nandini Garud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive >Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:16:32 -0700 > >Using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows 2000 on the network drive (F), importing >screenshots saved using SnagIt 8.01. Want avoid gray boxes. > >Problems: > >1. When I saved screenshots to the F (network drive) drive, some >screenshots >saved as 1K files (too small a size compared to others), when tried to open >them, received format not recognized message. >2. When imported a .png image captured using SnagIt, by reference, in Frame >7.2, the FrameMaker book with 12 open files crashed, recover files >generated >for every file. Newly typed information not saved. >3. When saved .tif files of screenshots with SnagIt on the network drive, >some .TIF files appeared normal, while some with 1K, non-displayable >format. >These small files don't have anything to import. Message displayed: Frame >cannot recognize this file format, choose format to convert the file. >4. Copied Graphics folder and Book folder from F drive and put them on the >same level In C, the book still looks to the F folder for images. >Redirected >to C, but doesn't budge. > >Troubleshooting: > >1. When saved .TIF files to the local C folder, images appear normal, with >healthy 1 to 2 Meg file size. >2. Saved the images in the C folder to the Graphics folder on F, copied >from >there by reference. > >Thanks. Any suggestions very welcome. > >Nandini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Auto-creating tables
At 15:33 -0500 17/5/06, Doug wrote: >Is there a way to automatically create a table when you apply a >specific paragraph format? Afaik only in structured Frame, through the use of an 'Automatically insert child' directive in the EDD. -- Steve
Career advice--which application to focus on: FM or Word?
At 16:15 -0400 17/5/06, Ron Miller wrote: >If I experiment with style changes, Word creates a new style like Body + blue >font + 6 pt line spacing. It handles numbered lists very poorly and it is >quirky and seems to lack any coherent use model. Frame on the other, while not >perfect (what software is) and certainly less intuitive at least does what you >want it to do and doesn't try to do so many things you wish it wouldn't. I think the key difference can be summed up by saying that Word takes a lifetime to master to the degree at which it can be used to produce results comparable to those that can be produced quite easily with Frame. It can be done, but is it worth it? -- Steve
problem with PDF batch processing (cudspan batch + watched folder)
Jeremy, thanks for your answer. See comments further down. Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > I wrote: > [...] > >What could the problem be, and how can I solve this? > > There seems to be an intermittent problem in Frame itself. > When we added the ability to make PDF to our runfm.exe tool, > we ran into this. We wound up having to set the property > explicitly from the FDK immediately before printing to the > PDF printer. After that, the trouble went away. Good to know I'm not the only one :-) In the meantime I did the following which seems to work in order to work around the problem: I printed each of the files in question manually to postscript. After this, the trouble went away. > You can use runfm to do this job, and you don't even need > to buy Mif2Go to do it. You do need to download and > install our demo version (at least the plugin parts): > http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm The runfm batch tool does look really interesting for what I need to do. In particular it would allow me to integrate it into our ant-based work flow. I'll have a look into it for the next project I'll be working on. -- cheers, Jakob.
Auto-creating tables
Hello, You are thinking in the right direction. Put a graphic frame on the reference page (name it), in there a text frame and create in the text frame a table. Call the graphic frame via the frame below paragraph function on the advanced tab of the paragraph designer as you saying below. Greetings, Belinda .-===x=x=x== ===-. You wrote: Is there a way to automatically create a table when you apply a specific paragraph format? One of my paragraph formats is a heading that introduces a table. I'd like the table to display automatically when I finish creating the table's heading. I was hoping to place the table on a reference page and call it via the Frame Below Paragraph function on the Advanced tab of the Paragraph Designer, but it won't let me put a table on the reference page. What's the Best Practice for this purpose? Thanks! --Doug
ADMIN Netiquette
OK, folks, settle down. There are currently no specific posting rules on Framers, but the rules of netiquette always apply to any list or forum. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming for information. I have seen multiple instances in at least three threads in the past two days that are starting to push the boundaries, and I expect this behavior to stop. Direct any comments about this message to me offlist, not to the list. Lisa B. Framers Administrator
figure titles in webworks
I am not [yet] into WebWorks and I don't know whether the code example you give is an automatic conversion by the application or whether this is something you decide (in your rules). But I have a BIG general question here (to the list): Why use Microsoft arbitrary code instead of the generic HTML standards? Is your code only made for Internet Exploiter version X? The general rule today is to avoid proprietary code, because it will get you some day. There is nothing as unreliable as a Microsoft application, because they do all sorts of arbitrary changes between versions that will only learn about the hard way. Instead use as much as possible pure HTML or XHTML (to the standard of the World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org) and CSS. For example, the tag can easily be handled by CSS using e.g. , and so will the setting of the behaviour of elements, like "sometext -- much like in FrameMaker's own EDD. Also there is absolutely no need for the tag. It is redundant. Set the fonts within the CSS. The tag is really a stone-age tag that seems to endlessly fill the codes of bad webpages made with -- you guessed it -- M$ FrontPage. Your sample shows a table consisting of one row consisting of three cells. The sets the vertical alignment (which, again, would be better handled in the CSS). The first cell is empty but has the width set to 48 pixels (once more: better handled in the CSS unless this is a loner). The second cell has a different width and then a which includes the proprietary which again holds a locator anchor (which is repeated in the last cell, giving the browser a hard time deciding which one to choose). There is nothing to tell me what font attributes are inherited in the second cell. I am guessing some other than "2", which would explain the forcing of the font in the 3rd cell down a bit (since the cells' vertical alignment is set to "top"). Also you see the specific setting of the font name in the 3rd cell. Either get rid of that within the font tag or delete the font tag (both sides) or have the same settings for the 2nd cell. And try to have this set in the CSS rather than arbitrarily set with the element. Always check your HTML code to 3-4 different browsers (IE, FireFox, Opera, etc.) and have them also checked on other O/Ss unless it is ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY intended for use with M$ IE. And finally: Someone tell me that this is not WebWork's fault, default behaviour or something unavoidable, please. Bodvar On 5/17/06, Lilah Johnson wrote: > Hi- > I have a webworks related question. When I generate help from Frame files, > WebWorks seems to create two separate anchors for figure number and figure > text. But it appears to be using different fonts, the results of which are > that it looks like the figure number is a half line above the figure text. Is > there a way to fix this using the Style Designer? > > Here is the source code from the page: > > > > > > > > > > > Figure 1?1 > > > > > > Sample End User IronPort Spam Quarantine > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >
Re: FM 7.2 and WebWorks
You'll need to install the version of WWP SE that came with FM 7.2. An older version of WWP does not work with a newer version of FM, generally. (Hard to predict the next version for compatability...) There's an upgrade path for templates in WWP Pro/WWeP Pro but I do not have first-hand knowledge of whether there is one for WWP SE. On 5/18/06, Steve Gillespie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings: I just upgraded to Frame 7.2 on Win2000, and discovered that my 'old" WWP-SE7 projects will not work ... Do I have to install the new WWP-SE8? - and will it 'recognize' my old WWP7 projects, or do I have to import them or something? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 7.2 and WebWorks
Greetings: I just upgraded to Frame 7.2 on Win2000, and discovered that my 'old" WWP-SE7 projects will not work ... Do I have to install the new WWP-SE8? - and will it 'recognize' my old WWP7 projects, or do I have to import them or something? Apprec any help. Thanks! Steve Gillespie, PMP FedEx Express, HR Measurement & Support 3670 Hacks Cross Rd., Bldg. G, 2nd Floor Memphis, TN 38125 901.434.9982 The information in this message is proprietary and confidential and is intended only for the recipient(s) listed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee, or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of the information in this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the original message. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
Is this a private email from Linda that you posted to the list? How completely rude. *That* is surely a netiquette violation, I've never been on an email list or newsgroup where it was tolerated. Anne > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] meusers.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Framers List > Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals > > --- "Linda G. Gallagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I don't think it was necessary to single out my response > and call what > > I said laughable. The information contained in or attached to this e-mail contains confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this e-mail is PROHIBITED. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail immediately. Thank you. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: figure titles in webworks
Hi Lilah, On 5/18/06, Lilah Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Bodvar- Actually, this is the code generated by WebWorks, and it is supposed to be simple HTML. I was afraid sol I did not personally write the HTML. I am sure I could tweak the HTML as you suggested (and thanks so much for the careful analysis!), but I wanted to change the WebWorks configuration so that it does not do this every time I generate help. I want to be able to use WebWorks without having to change all the HTML code if possible. Does anyone have a suggestion for why WebWorks is structuring my HTML in this way? I am guessing the problem arises because the figure is autonumbered, and WebWorks seems to be using different settings for the figure title and the figure number (as you explained below). I would assume that WebWorks would be smart enough to apply the same settings to the figure title and figure number? Is it possible that WW is picking up some setting from Frame? Any help would be MUCH appreciated! Thanks! Well, as I said before, I am not into WW yet, but there must be someone on the list that can help. :-) BTW, thanks to Sean for his reply here to me. From his reply I am fairly optimistic that redundancy in coding can be made using a proper set of rules. And now as the Eurovision Song Contest semifinals are starting in less than three hours: Go go, Silvia Night! (http://www.esctoday.com/, http://www.eurovision.tv/english/index.htm, http://www.silvianight.com) Bodvar. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: QUESTION: Word xrefs into FM
A few details on the process you're using to convert would be helpful Art On 5/18/06, Grant Hogarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got to convert a MS Word (2003) doc to FM, however, the xrefs (& also index markers) do not seem to be coming across. The morning coffee is not working today, as I'm trying to remember if this is unavoidable, or if there is a way to have them sucessfully transfer. Grant -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Career advice--which application to focus on: FM or Word?
Word has its place, but if you want to have a structured/disciplined approach to document creation, Frame wins hands down. There really is no comparison. I tried using WWP for Word, but I was so frustrated trying to set up the Word document for WWP that I gave up and went back to Frame. And I might add, I've been doing this for 18 years, and have been using Word since version 2.0, and there are still so many things I just don't get about it. Ron Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 16:15 -0400 17/5/06, Ron Miller wrote: > >> If I experiment with style changes, Word creates a new style like Body + >> blue font + 6 pt line spacing. It handles numbered lists very poorly and it >> is quirky and seems to lack any coherent use model. Frame on the other, >> while not perfect (what software is) and certainly less intuitive at least >> does what you want it to do and doesn't try to do so many things you wish it >> wouldn't. > > I think the key difference can be summed up by saying that Word takes a > lifetime to master to the degree at which it can be used to produce results > comparable to those that can be produced quite easily with Frame. It can be > done, but is it worth it?
Automate Outline Object
In this project I am opening an XML file using an application with XSLT and r/w rules. Is it possible to specify a border around a graphic object in the EDD, or would this be a read/write rule? Or is it just not possible? I've been snooping around the Structured Dev Guide but haven't found anything yet. Thanks, Don. Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch Donald.M.Rinderknecht at noaa.gov ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: > All, > > Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object. > (Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.) > I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette > but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify. > > If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic to put a border on > them. > > Thanks, > Don. >
QUESTION: Word xrefs into FM
I've got to convert a MS Word (2003) doc to FM, however, the xrefs (& also index markers) do not seem to be coming across. The morning coffee is not working today, as I'm trying to remember if this is unavoidable, or if there is a way to have them sucessfully transfer. Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Equis International - A Reuters Company ghogarth at Equis.com / Grant.Hogarth at Reuters.com Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: 801.265.3999 URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT -7)
Acrobat and Flash (was: Release Date for ...)
Hello Schlomo, I tried to take a look at this example, but I got an error message saying: "Requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or inaccurate." ;-( Best regards Yves On 5/17/06, Shlomo Perets wrote: > > David Creamer wrote: > > >Acrobat 8 is supposed to be out by the end of the year. I would imagine > it > >will support importing/imbedding of Flash files. > > Integration may be improved, but Flash can be linked (web/local) or > embedded in Acrobat, starting with Acrobat Professional 6. > > See a sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultiMedia_Acro6.pdf > (96K) with a link to a tutorial (web-based SWF) at the bottom-right corner > of page 1. > [Some of the other web-based files linked in this sample PDF are currently > not accessible.] > > > Shlomo Perets > > MicroType, http://www.microtype.com > Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor U&I Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com
RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
--- "Linda G. Gallagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it was necessary to single out my > response and call what I > said laughable. Your unqualified statement that the only people left who use such numbering schemes are engineers communicating with other engineers is what made it laughable, because your statement itself was insulting to the many technical disciplines where such numbering schemes are considered essential. Clearly, many types of technical documentation other than engineer-to-engineer documents are enhanced by using a rational numbering scheme, and I cited many examples in my initial reply. One could infer that your conclusion derives from the fact that your millieu is restricted to on-line help--the realm where shovelware reigns supreme. In general, that regime only works when the product being supported is some relatively simple piece of software, and on-line help is only useful to beginners, who would probably be better off if they could print a complete manual that actually looks like a technical manual when it is printed. The general assumption of on-line help developers seems to be that links are a substitute for a rational numbering scheme. You may be surprised to learn that there are vast realms in which selected technical manual content must be printed out in order to successfully carry out tasks, and thus links no longer work. in those cases, a rational numbering scheme in the printed portion replaces links as the method for finding (and printing) referenced content. That's an unnecessary insult. == Your statement itself insulted those who produce technical content that is far superior to the typical on-line help shovelware. == > As for this particular issue, I know of few writers > and companies who advocate using numbered sections as you suggest. == How many companies or writers do you know who work outside the realm of on-line help shovelware? Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals
--- "Linda G. Gallagher" wrote: > I don't think it was necessary to single out my > response and call what I > said laughable. Your unqualified statement that the only people left who use such numbering schemes are engineers communicating with other engineers is what made it laughable, because your statement itself was insulting to the many technical disciplines where such numbering schemes are considered essential. Clearly, many types of technical documentation other than engineer-to-engineer documents are enhanced by using a rational numbering scheme, and I cited many examples in my initial reply. One could infer that your conclusion derives from the fact that your millieu is restricted to on-line help--the realm where shovelware reigns supreme. In general, that regime only works when the product being supported is some relatively simple piece of software, and on-line help is only useful to beginners, who would probably be better off if they could print a complete manual that actually looks like a technical manual when it is printed. The general assumption of on-line help developers seems to be that links are a substitute for a rational numbering scheme. You may be surprised to learn that there are vast realms in which selected technical manual content must be printed out in order to successfully carry out tasks, and thus links no longer work. in those cases, a rational numbering scheme in the printed portion replaces links as the method for finding (and printing) referenced content. That's an unnecessary insult. == Your statement itself insulted those who produce technical content that is far superior to the typical on-line help shovelware. == > As for this particular issue, I know of few writers > and companies who advocate using numbered sections as you suggest. == How many companies or writers do you know who work outside the realm of on-line help shovelware? Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing
ADMIN Netiquette
OK, folks, settle down. There are currently no specific posting rules on Framers, but the rules of netiquette always apply to any list or forum. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming for information. I have seen multiple instances in at least three threads in the past two days that are starting to push the boundaries, and I expect this behavior to stop. Direct any comments about this message to me offlist, not to the list. Lisa B. Framers Administrator ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
QUESTION: Word xrefs into FM
I've got to convert a MS Word (2003) doc to FM, however, the xrefs (& also index markers) do not seem to be coming across. The morning coffee is not working today, as I'm trying to remember if this is unavoidable, or if there is a way to have them sucessfully transfer. Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Equis International - A Reuters Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: 801.265.3999 URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT -7) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
figure titles in webworks
Hi Bodvar- Actually, this is the code generated by WebWorks, and it is supposed to be simple HTML. I did not personally write the HTML. I am sure I could tweak the HTML as you suggested (and thanks so much for the careful analysis!), but I wanted to change the WebWorks configuration so that it does not do this every time I generate help. I want to be able to use WebWorks without having to change all the HTML code if possible. Does anyone have a suggestion for why WebWorks is structuring my HTML in this way? I am guessing the problem arises because the figure is autonumbered, and WebWorks seems to be using different settings for the figure title and the figure number (as you explained below). I would assume that WebWorks would be smart enough to apply the same settings to the figure title and figure number? Is it possible that WW is picking up some setting from Frame? Any help would be MUCH appreciated! Thanks! -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:54 AM To: Lilah Johnson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: figure titles in webworks I am not [yet] into WebWorks and I don't know whether the code example you give is an automatic conversion by the application or whether this is something you decide (in your rules). But I have a BIG general question here (to the list): Why use Microsoft arbitrary code instead of the generic HTML standards? Is your code only made for Internet Exploiter version X? The general rule today is to avoid proprietary code, because it will get you some day. There is nothing as unreliable as a Microsoft application, because they do all sorts of arbitrary changes between versions that will only learn about the hard way. Instead use as much as possible pure HTML or XHTML (to the standard of the World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org) and CSS. For example, the tag can easily be handled by CSS using e.g. , and so will the setting of the behaviour of elements, like "sometext -- much like in FrameMaker's own EDD. Also there is absolutely no need for the tag. It is redundant. Set the fonts within the CSS. The tag is really a stone-age tag that seems to endlessly fill the codes of bad webpages made with -- you guessed it -- M$ FrontPage. Your sample shows a table consisting of one row consisting of three cells. The sets the vertical alignment (which, again, would be better handled in the CSS). The first cell is empty but has the width set to 48 pixels (once more: better handled in the CSS unless this is a loner). The second cell has a different width and then a which includes the proprietary which again holds a locator anchor (which is repeated in the last cell, giving the browser a hard time deciding which one to choose). There is nothing to tell me what font attributes are inherited in the second cell. I am guessing some other than "2", which would explain the forcing of the font in the 3rd cell down a bit (since the cells' vertical alignment is set to "top"). Also you see the specific setting of the font name in the 3rd cell. Either get rid of that within the font tag or delete the font tag (both sides) or have the same settings for the 2nd cell. And try to have this set in the CSS rather than arbitrarily set with the element. Always check your HTML code to 3-4 different browsers (IE, FireFox, Opera, etc.) and have them also checked on other O/Ss unless it is ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY intended for use with M$ IE. And finally: Someone tell me that this is not WebWork's fault, default behaviour or something unavoidable, please. Bodvar On 5/17/06, Lilah Johnson wrote: > Hi- > I have a webworks related question. When I generate help from Frame files, > WebWorks seems to create two separate anchors for figure number and figure > text. But it appears to be using different fonts, the results of which are > that it looks like the figure number is a half line above the figure text. Is > there a way to fix this using the Style Designer? > > Here is the source code from the page: > > > > > > > > > > > Figure 1?1 > > > > > > Sample End User IronPort Spam Quarantine > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > >
RE: figure titles in webworks
Hi Bodvar- Actually, this is the code generated by WebWorks, and it is supposed to be simple HTML. I did not personally write the HTML. I am sure I could tweak the HTML as you suggested (and thanks so much for the careful analysis!), but I wanted to change the WebWorks configuration so that it does not do this every time I generate help. I want to be able to use WebWorks without having to change all the HTML code if possible. Does anyone have a suggestion for why WebWorks is structuring my HTML in this way? I am guessing the problem arises because the figure is autonumbered, and WebWorks seems to be using different settings for the figure title and the figure number (as you explained below). I would assume that WebWorks would be smart enough to apply the same settings to the figure title and figure number? Is it possible that WW is picking up some setting from Frame? Any help would be MUCH appreciated! Thanks! -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:54 AM To: Lilah Johnson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: figure titles in webworks I am not [yet] into WebWorks and I don't know whether the code example you give is an automatic conversion by the application or whether this is something you decide (in your rules). But I have a BIG general question here (to the list): Why use Microsoft arbitrary code instead of the generic HTML standards? Is your code only made for Internet Exploiter version X? The general rule today is to avoid proprietary code, because it will get you some day. There is nothing as unreliable as a Microsoft application, because they do all sorts of arbitrary changes between versions that will only learn about the hard way. Instead use as much as possible pure HTML or XHTML (to the standard of the World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org) and CSS. For example, the tag can easily be handled by CSS using e.g. , and so will the setting of the behaviour of elements, like "sometext -- much like in FrameMaker's own EDD. Also there is absolutely no need for the tag. It is redundant. Set the fonts within the CSS. The tag is really a stone-age tag that seems to endlessly fill the codes of bad webpages made with -- you guessed it -- M$ FrontPage. Your sample shows a table consisting of one row consisting of three cells. The sets the vertical alignment (which, again, would be better handled in the CSS). The first cell is empty but has the width set to 48 pixels (once more: better handled in the CSS unless this is a loner). The second cell has a different width and then a which includes the proprietary which again holds a locator anchor (which is repeated in the last cell, giving the browser a hard time deciding which one to choose). There is nothing to tell me what font attributes are inherited in the second cell. I am guessing some other than "2", which would explain the forcing of the font in the 3rd cell down a bit (since the cells' vertical alignment is set to "top"). Also you see the specific setting of the font name in the 3rd cell. Either get rid of that within the font tag or delete the font tag (both sides) or have the same settings for the 2nd cell. And try to have this set in the CSS rather than arbitrarily set with the element. Always check your HTML code to 3-4 different browsers (IE, FireFox, Opera, etc.) and have them also checked on other O/Ss unless it is ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY intended for use with M$ IE. And finally: Someone tell me that this is not WebWork's fault, default behaviour or something unavoidable, please. Bodvar On 5/17/06, Lilah Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi- > I have a webworks related question. When I generate help from Frame files, > WebWorks seems to create two separate anchors for figure number and figure > text. But it appears to be using different fonts, the results of which are > that it looks like the figure number is a half line above the figure text. Is > there a way to fix this using the Style Designer? > > Here is the source code from the page: > > > > > > > > > > > Figure 1‑1 > > > > > > Sample End User IronPort Spam Quarantine > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EM
Re: Automate Outline Object
At 07:04 AM 5/18/2006, Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: Is it possible to specify a border around a graphic object in the EDD, or would this be a read/write rule? Or is it just not possible? Don, Neither a EDD nor r/w rules can set this property. A simple FDK client could do so as part of the process of opening the XML document, or FrameScript could after the document is opened. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Automate Outline Object
At 07:04 AM 5/18/2006, Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: >Is it possible to specify a border around a graphic object in the EDD, or >would this be a read/write rule? >Or is it just not possible? Don, Neither a EDD nor r/w rules can set this property. A simple FDK client could do so as part of the process of opening the XML document, or FrameScript could after the document is opened. --Lynne Lynne A. Price Text Structure Consulting, Inc. Specializing in structured FrameMaker consulting, application development, and training lprice at txstruct.comhttp://www.txstruct.com voice/fax: (510) 583-1505 cell phone: (510) 421-2284
Re: Automate Outline Object
In this project I am opening an XML file using an application with XSLT and r/w rules. Is it possible to specify a border around a graphic object in the EDD, or would this be a read/write rule? Or is it just not possible? I've been snooping around the Structured Dev Guide but haven't found anything yet. Thanks, Don. Don Rinderknecht -- KD5MVV Meteorologist Instructor/Developer ~ Warning Decision Training Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://wdtb.noaa.gov Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: All, Is there a way to automate putting an outline on a graphic object. (Other than using FrameScript which I don't have.) I can do this manually by selecting the object then the Tools Palette but I've got about 1200 graphic objects to modify. If not, I'll look at modifying the actual graphic to put a border on them. Thanks, Don. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat and Flash (was: Release Date for ...)
Yves, You wrote: I tried to take a look at this example, but I got an error message saying: "Requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or inaccurate." ;-( Did you click the [SWF] link at the bottom right corner in http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultiMedia_Acro6.pdf? It points to the following file: http://www.turbodemo.com/demos/PalmDemo.swf and I have just double-checked that it is accessible, both from within the PDF as well as directly. (as I mentioned, some of the other web links may not be accessible) You may try and add a Flash file available locally to a PDF using Acrobat Professional 6 or 7 (link or embed). Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat and Flash (was: Release Date for ...)
>> Acrobat 8 is supposed to be out by the end of the year. I would imagine it >> will support importing/imbedding of Flash files. > > Integration may be improved, but Flash can be linked (web/local) or > embedded in Acrobat, starting with Acrobat Professional 6. > > See a sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultiMedia_Acro6.pdf > (96K) with a link to a tutorial (web-based SWF) at the bottom-right corner > of page 1. Yes, I was referring to better integration and fixing the bugs between Acrobat 7 and Flash 8. Very annoying. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified (since 1995) for ALL Print and Web Publishing-related software Authorized Quark Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified Apple Certified Consultant (since 1990) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat and Flash (was: Release Date for ...)
>> Acrobat 8 is supposed to be out by the end of the year. I would imagine it >> will support importing/imbedding of Flash files. > > Integration may be improved, but Flash can be linked (web/local) or > embedded in Acrobat, starting with Acrobat Professional 6. > > See a sample PDF at http://www.microtype.com/showcase/MultiMedia_Acro6.pdf > (96K) with a link to a tutorial (web-based SWF) at the bottom-right corner > of page 1. Yes, I was referring to better integration and fixing the bugs between Acrobat 7 and Flash 8. Very annoying. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified (since 1995) for ALL Print and Web Publishing-related software Authorized Quark Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified Apple Certified Consultant (since 1990)
Re: figure titles in webworks
Hi Bodvar, Am not sure what you are asking vis-a-vis WebWorks. 1) Writing HTML in a text editor using the W3C standards is by far the cleanest way to go. WebWorks, and for that matter, few, if any, others will be as clean. Certainly, WWP's use of CSS is less efficient than yours might be by hand coding, and remember WWP is not a Website design tool. However, WebWorks, and the rest, are about efficiency in authoring. 2) WebWorks has several output types you can choose, including Microsoft-only CHMs and a cross-platform and cross-browser online help format, called WebWorks Help. This format services a finite list of Browsers, but it is certainly not restricted to I.E. Cheers, Sean - Original Message From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lilah Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:53:58 AM Subject: Re: figure titles in webworks I am not [yet] into WebWorks and I don't know whether the code example you give is an automatic conversion by the application or whether this is something you decide (in your rules). But I have a BIG general question here (to the list): And finally: Someone tell me that this is not WebWork's fault, default behaviour or something unavoidable, please. Bodvar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
figure titles in webworks
Hi Bodvar, Am not sure what you are asking vis-a-vis WebWorks. 1) Writing HTML in a text editor using the W3C standards is by far the cleanest way to go. WebWorks, and for that matter, few, if any, others will be as clean. Certainly, WWP's use of CSS is less efficient than yours might be by hand coding, and remember WWP is not a Website design tool. However, WebWorks, and the rest, are about efficiency in authoring. 2) WebWorks has several output types you can choose, including Microsoft-only CHMs and a cross-platform and cross-browser online help format, called WebWorks Help. This format services a finite list of Browsers, but it is certainly not restricted to I.E. Cheers, Sean - Original Message From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson To: Lilah Johnson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:53:58 AM Subject: Re: figure titles in webworks I am not [yet] into WebWorks and I don't know whether the code example you give is an automatic conversion by the application or whether this is something you decide (in your rules). But I have a BIG general question here (to the list): And finally: Someone tell me that this is not WebWork's fault, default behaviour or something unavoidable, please. Bodvar
Re: Career advice--which application to focus on: FM or Word?
Word has its place, but if you want to have a structured/disciplined approach to document creation, Frame wins hands down. There really is no comparison. I tried using WWP for Word, but I was so frustrated trying to set up the Word document for WWP that I gave up and went back to Frame. And I might add, I've been doing this for 18 years, and have been using Word since version 2.0, and there are still so many things I just don't get about it. Ron Steve Rickaby wrote: At 16:15 -0400 17/5/06, Ron Miller wrote: If I experiment with style changes, Word creates a new style like Body + blue font + 6 pt line spacing. It handles numbered lists very poorly and it is quirky and seems to lack any coherent use model. Frame on the other, while not perfect (what software is) and certainly less intuitive at least does what you want it to do and doesn't try to do so many things you wish it wouldn't. I think the key difference can be summed up by saying that Word takes a lifetime to master to the degree at which it can be used to produce results comparable to those that can be produced quite easily with Frame. It can be done, but is it worth it? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Auto-creating tables
Hello, You are thinking in the right direction. Put a graphic frame on the reference page (name it), in there a text frame and create in the text frame a table. Call the graphic frame via the frame below paragraph function on the advanced tab of the paragraph designer as you saying below. Greetings, Belinda .-===x=x=x== ===-. You wrote: Is there a way to automatically create a table when you apply a specific paragraph format? One of my paragraph formats is a heading that introduces a table. I'd like the table to display automatically when I finish creating the table's heading. I was hoping to place the table on a reference page and call it via the Frame Below Paragraph function on the Advanced tab of the Paragraph Designer, but it won't let me put a table on the reference page. What's the Best Practice for this purpose? Thanks! --Doug ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: figure titles in webworks
I am not [yet] into WebWorks and I don't know whether the code example you give is an automatic conversion by the application or whether this is something you decide (in your rules). But I have a BIG general question here (to the list): Why use Microsoft arbitrary code instead of the generic HTML standards? Is your code only made for Internet Exploiter version X? The general rule today is to avoid proprietary code, because it will get you some day. There is nothing as unreliable as a Microsoft application, because they do all sorts of arbitrary changes between versions that will only learn about the hard way. Instead use as much as possible pure HTML or XHTML (to the standard of the World Wide Web Consortium http://www.w3.org) and CSS. For example, the tag can easily be handled by CSS using e.g. , and so will the setting of the behaviour of elements, like "sometext -- much like in FrameMaker's own EDD. Also there is absolutely no need for the tag. It is redundant. Set the fonts within the CSS. The tag is really a stone-age tag that seems to endlessly fill the codes of bad webpages made with -- you guessed it -- M$ FrontPage. Your sample shows a table consisting of one row consisting of three cells. The sets the vertical alignment (which, again, would be better handled in the CSS). The first cell is empty but has the width set to 48 pixels (once more: better handled in the CSS unless this is a loner). The second cell has a different width and then a which includes the proprietary which again holds a locator anchor (which is repeated in the last cell, giving the browser a hard time deciding which one to choose). There is nothing to tell me what font attributes are inherited in the second cell. I am guessing some other than "2", which would explain the forcing of the font in the 3rd cell down a bit (since the cells' vertical alignment is set to "top"). Also you see the specific setting of the font name in the 3rd cell. Either get rid of that within the font tag or delete the font tag (both sides) or have the same settings for the 2nd cell. And try to have this set in the CSS rather than arbitrarily set with the element. Always check your HTML code to 3-4 different browsers (IE, FireFox, Opera, etc.) and have them also checked on other O/Ss unless it is ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY intended for use with M$ IE. And finally: Someone tell me that this is not WebWork's fault, default behaviour or something unavoidable, please. Bodvar On 5/17/06, Lilah Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi- I have a webworks related question. When I generate help from Frame files, WebWorks seems to create two separate anchors for figure number and figure text. But it appears to be using different fonts, the results of which are that it looks like the figure number is a half line above the figure text. Is there a way to fix this using the Style Designer? Here is the source code from the page: Figure 1‑1 Sample End User IronPort Spam Quarantine Thanks! ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Career advice--which application to focus on: FM or Word?
At 16:15 -0400 17/5/06, Ron Miller wrote: >If I experiment with style changes, Word creates a new style like Body + blue >font + 6 pt line spacing. It handles numbered lists very poorly and it is >quirky and seems to lack any coherent use model. Frame on the other, while not >perfect (what software is) and certainly less intuitive at least does what you >want it to do and doesn't try to do so many things you wish it wouldn't. I think the key difference can be summed up by saying that Word takes a lifetime to master to the degree at which it can be used to produce results comparable to those that can be produced quite easily with Frame. It can be done, but is it worth it? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Auto-creating tables
At 15:33 -0500 17/5/06, Doug wrote: >Is there a way to automatically create a table when you apply a >specific paragraph format? Afaik only in structured Frame, through the use of an 'Automatically insert child' directive in the EDD. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Using XSLT in FM7.2 (was: XSLT and DocType declaration)
Under http://www.microtype.com/FrameMakerFAQ.html#Structure there are links to a few FM7.2 Structure-specific technical papers, including a new "Using XSLT in FM7.2" paper. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
Re: problem with PDF batch processing (cudspan batch + watched folder)
Jeremy, thanks for your answer. See comments further down. Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: I wrote: [...] >What could the problem be, and how can I solve this? There seems to be an intermittent problem in Frame itself. When we added the ability to make PDF to our runfm.exe tool, we ran into this. We wound up having to set the property explicitly from the FDK immediately before printing to the PDF printer. After that, the trouble went away. Good to know I'm not the only one :-) In the meantime I did the following which seems to work in order to work around the problem: I printed each of the files in question manually to postscript. After this, the trouble went away. You can use runfm to do this job, and you don't even need to buy Mif2Go to do it. You do need to download and install our demo version (at least the plugin parts): http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm The runfm batch tool does look really interesting for what I need to do. In particular it would allow me to integrate it into our ant-based work flow. I'll have a look into it for the next project I'll be working on. -- cheers, Jakob. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.