Re: touch id

[Robert Doc Wright]

your home button

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rebecca Ilniski 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:21 PM
  Subject: touch id


  Hey all. Could someone tell me how touch ID works?  I set up the fingerprint 
but am wondering where to to place my finger to unlock the screen and use the 
fingerprint? Thanks. 




  Rebecca and Zeb
  email: rilni...@gmail.com
  twitter: zebs_mom
  Sent from my IPhone





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If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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Re: Amazon Fire TV

[Jeff Samco]

I purchased the Amazon Fire TV media device. It is not at all 
accessible nor useable. I bought it for my wife and it's a great 
media box for those who can navigate by seeing the TV screen for 
menus. But, nothing is spoken so there's no way of selecting 
functions, selecting from among search  results, etc.

HTH,
Jeff



At 11:50 AM 8/11/2014, you wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I received an advertisement for the Amazon Fire TV this morning. According
to the info I read, voice recognition will be built into the remote. My
understanding is user's will be able to use the voice recognition feature to
find movies and other content available through the remote. Has anyone
purchased this yet? What do you think?

Thank you,

Lynda

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Google sheetz need help

[Lori Dent]

Hi all,

I have google sheetz on my iPhone 5. Does anyone use this app and if so,can 
someone  please help me  with it?

I want to set up a spread  sheet  for  my Lions club to keep track of members 
dues  and attendance with all club members names ect and if they were at the 
meeting or not and to keep track of   members  dues with name of members, date 
they paid their dues half a year or a full year.

So how do I set up my spread sheet? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Lori and the Gipper

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Re: NFL Mobile

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Hope no one minds me chiming in as I took the plunge tonight and purchased 
the pass via the in app purchase.  Now my question is do I need to log in 
somewhere as it didn't ask me at any point to create any user name password 
or the like it did confirm that my purchase was successful and returned me 
to the initial screen of the app.

thanks for enlightening a first time user.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Cheryl Homiak

Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

Hey all, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings and I hope this isn't 
happening to everybody. I just discovered that even though I was able to 
sign in to my audiopass acount the other day by reinstalling the app, it now 
doesn't apparently acknowledge me as signed in and only provides a purchase 
button and not a log in option. I tried going both through settings and 
through schedules and this was the result both ways. It did show me as 
signed in the other day after I reinstalled and logged in. Of course I will 
be contacting support about this issue. I have no intention of buying my 
pass a second time.


--
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

All right, but you don't have to wait until a game is on to subscribe. 
There is also a path to do this through settings. In fact, that was the 
problem many of us were having; in settings there was a purchase button 
but not a sign-in button until we reinstalled.


And yes, you definitely can subscribe on the Mac as well as the PC or an 
i-device; I wouldn't know about other devices so I am not going to add to 
the confusion by stating my uninformed opinion. I have been subscribing to 
and listening to games for years on my Mac.


--
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 11, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
wrote:


I subscribed to NFL AudioPass on my PC, but I'm pretty sure you can also 
subscribe to it through an in app purchase on the NFL Mobile App.


1) If you bring up the NFL Mobile App, you can double tap on the menu 
button at the top of the screen.


2) Now double tap on the Schedules button. I find this by sliding my 
finger down the left hand side of the screen. Swiping doesn't always seem 
to get me there.


3) Double tap on the game you want to hear.

4) Double tap on the Replay button, and you'll be asked if you want to 
purchase an in app subscription for NFL AudioPass.


Note that last season you could only use the NFL Mobile App to listen to 
currently streaming games. I'm not sure if this has changed this season 
or not. On your PC, you can listen to any games, current or past, for the 
current season.


On 08/11/2014 05:41 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

You can not subscribe to Field Pass through the NFL Mobile app.  The
following link will take you to the page where you can subscribe, then
listen on the pc.  It uses flash for listening on the pc, so I don't
know what would happen if you tried to listen on a Mac.  You allegedly
can link this field pass account to your NFL Mobile app.  I did this
last year, this year, I couldn't get that far. I just checked, and
in my opinion, the pricing for Field Pass definitely is going in the
wrong direction, $29.95 through January 9, or $39.95 through the end of
the season.  I got it through the end of the season for $29.95, I guess,
because I subscribed last year, they probably will hit me up for the
$39.95 one next year.

Arnold Schmidt
https://audiopass.nfl.com/nflap/secure/packages?ttv=0
- Original Message - From: "Alan Paganelli"

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, I must be stupid because I cannot find on the NFL Mobile app
anywhere to
subscribe to the audio pass.  Unless it isn't available for AT&T 
customers.



Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly o

Re: touch id

[Hope Paulos]

Hi there. You just place your finger lightly on the home button after you hit 
the power button or the home button to get to the unlock screen. The first time 
you do this, it will ask you for your  numerical passcode. 

Hope Paulos

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
> 
> Hey all. Could someone tell me how touch ID works?  I set up the fingerprint 
> but am wondering where to to place my finger to unlock the screen and use the 
> fingerprint? Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Rebecca and Zeb
> email: rilni...@gmail.com
> twitter: zebs_mom
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hey all, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings and I hope this isn't happening 
to everybody. I just discovered that even though I was able to sign in to my 
audiopass acount the other day by reinstalling the app, it now doesn't 
apparently acknowledge me as signed in and only provides a purchase button and 
not a log in option. I tried going both through settings and through schedules 
and this was the result both ways. It did show me as signed in the other day 
after I reinstalled and logged in. Of course I will be contacting support about 
this issue. I have no intention of buying my pass a second time.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> All right, but you don't have to wait until a game is on to subscribe. There 
> is also a path to do this through settings. In fact, that was the problem 
> many of us were having; in settings there was a purchase button but not a 
> sign-in button until we reinstalled.
> 
> And yes, you definitely can subscribe on the Mac as well as the PC or an 
> i-device; I wouldn't know about other devices so I am not going to add to the 
> confusion by stating my uninformed opinion. I have been subscribing to and 
> listening to games for years on my Mac.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 11, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
>> I subscribed to NFL AudioPass on my PC, but I'm pretty sure you can also 
>> subscribe to it through an in app purchase on the NFL Mobile App.
>> 
>> 1) If you bring up the NFL Mobile App, you can double tap on the menu button 
>> at the top of the screen.
>> 
>> 2) Now double tap on the Schedules button. I find this by sliding my finger 
>> down the left hand side of the screen. Swiping doesn't always seem to get me 
>> there.
>> 
>> 3) Double tap on the game you want to hear.
>> 
>> 4) Double tap on the Replay button, and you'll be asked if you want to 
>> purchase an in app subscription for NFL AudioPass.
>> 
>> Note that last season you could only use the NFL Mobile App to listen to 
>> currently streaming games. I'm not sure if this has changed this season or 
>> not. On your PC, you can listen to any games, current or past, for the 
>> current season.
>> 
>> On 08/11/2014 05:41 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>> You can not subscribe to Field Pass through the NFL Mobile app.  The
>>> following link will take you to the page where you can subscribe, then
>>> listen on the pc.  It uses flash for listening on the pc, so I don't
>>> know what would happen if you tried to listen on a Mac.  You allegedly
>>> can link this field pass account to your NFL Mobile app.  I did this
>>> last year, this year, I couldn't get that far. I just checked, and
>>> in my opinion, the pricing for Field Pass definitely is going in the
>>> wrong direction, $29.95 through January 9, or $39.95 through the end of
>>> the season.  I got it through the end of the season for $29.95, I guess,
>>> because I subscribed last year, they probably will hit me up for the
>>> $39.95 one next year.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> https://audiopass.nfl.com/nflap/secure/packages?ttv=0
>>> - Original Message - From: "Alan Paganelli"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok, I must be stupid because I cannot find on the NFL Mobile app
>>> anywhere to
>>> subscribe to the audio pass.  Unless it isn't available for AT&T customers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Alan
>>> 
>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>>> 
>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>>> 
>>> Please click on:
>>> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>>> 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, the NFL has . You can

touch id

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hey all. Could someone tell me how touch ID works?  I set up the fingerprint 
but am wondering where to to place my finger to unlock the screen and use the 
fingerprint? Thanks. 


Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com
twitter: zebs_mom
Sent from my IPhone


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Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Cheryl Homiak]

I didn't have to do that in order to find the bard mobile app or the nfb 
newsline app. Usually I start out by not tapping search; then if I don't see my 
choice I tap it just to be sure.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:22 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> One key, that people forget, is to always press search in the lower right 
> corner of the keyboard, or enter on the bluetooth keyboard, when searching 
> for an app in the App Store. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 12 Aug 2014, at 9:08, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>> hmmm, maybe these got changed. I just went to the app store on my iPhone and 
>> NFB Newsline was the third choice when I typed nfb and bard mobile was the 
>> second choice when I typed bard. I then tried the same searches on my iPad 
>> with the same results. So maybe something has been changed since you tried 
>> these.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Michelle Bernstein 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It in interesting to me that even when I contact the apple accessibility 
>>> telephone number, I have to explain the apps that I am asking for help with 
>>> accessing.  Two recent examples are the Bard mobile app and the nfb 
>>> Newsline app.  In the case of the nfb Newsline app, the only way that I 
>>> could locate this app to download to my iPad was to use the link from the 
>>> nfb Newsline website.  Searching both iTunes Store and the App Store 
>>> brought up other results from nfb beside Newsline.  
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, the more you write or call anyone associated with the 
>>> technology you need will be beneficial.  It may not help as I found 
>>> repeatedly calling customer service from audible, but at least the more 
>>> voices that are heard, the better.  My assumption, and I hope that I am 
>>> wrong, as someone who became visually impaired as an adult, is that you 
>>> need to advocate and explain everything you need from technology at a very 
>>> basic level to be understood by the sighted community, even from places 
>>> which make technology which is supposed to be accessible.  Also remember 
>>> that not everyone is a wiz at technology and not everyone picks up these 
>>> skills quickly, especially if they are unfamiliar with navigating the world 
>>> without much or any sight.  Michelle
>>> 
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Cheryl Homiak]

All right, but you don't have to wait until a game is on to subscribe. There is 
also a path to do this through settings. In fact, that was the problem many of 
us were having; in settings there was a purchase button but not a sign-in 
button until we reinstalled.

And yes, you definitely can subscribe on the Mac as well as the PC or an 
i-device; I wouldn't know about other devices so I am not going to add to the 
confusion by stating my uninformed opinion. I have been subscribing to and 
listening to games for years on my Mac.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 11, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I subscribed to NFL AudioPass on my PC, but I'm pretty sure you can also 
> subscribe to it through an in app purchase on the NFL Mobile App.
> 
> 1) If you bring up the NFL Mobile App, you can double tap on the menu button 
> at the top of the screen.
> 
> 2) Now double tap on the Schedules button. I find this by sliding my finger 
> down the left hand side of the screen. Swiping doesn't always seem to get me 
> there.
> 
> 3) Double tap on the game you want to hear.
> 
> 4) Double tap on the Replay button, and you'll be asked if you want to 
> purchase an in app subscription for NFL AudioPass.
> 
> Note that last season you could only use the NFL Mobile App to listen to 
> currently streaming games. I'm not sure if this has changed this season or 
> not. On your PC, you can listen to any games, current or past, for the 
> current season.
> 
> On 08/11/2014 05:41 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>> You can not subscribe to Field Pass through the NFL Mobile app.  The
>> following link will take you to the page where you can subscribe, then
>> listen on the pc.  It uses flash for listening on the pc, so I don't
>> know what would happen if you tried to listen on a Mac.  You allegedly
>> can link this field pass account to your NFL Mobile app.  I did this
>> last year, this year, I couldn't get that far. I just checked, and
>> in my opinion, the pricing for Field Pass definitely is going in the
>> wrong direction, $29.95 through January 9, or $39.95 through the end of
>> the season.  I got it through the end of the season for $29.95, I guess,
>> because I subscribed last year, they probably will hit me up for the
>> $39.95 one next year.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> https://audiopass.nfl.com/nflap/secure/packages?ttv=0
>> - Original Message - From: "Alan Paganelli"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
>> 
>> 
>> Ok, I must be stupid because I cannot find on the NFL Mobile app
>> anywhere to
>> subscribe to the audio pass.  Unless it isn't available for AT&T customers.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
>> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
>> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, the NFL has . You can get the radio broadcasts of the NFL games
>> for the season for $20. There are other packages available as well.
>> 
>> Are you asking about the NHL though, since you mention hockey?
>> 
>> On 08/10/2014 07:01 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:
>>> Does the NFL have a reasonable audio only subscription? I couldn't find
>>> any info on this last year, and the hockey season is fast approaching!
>>> 
>>>- Original Message -
>>>*From:* Rich Ring 
>>>*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>*Cc:* Rich Ring 
>>>*Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:59 PM
>>>*Subject:* Re: NFL Mobile
>>> 
>>>MLB has made a truly VO friendly app for listening to baseball. NHL
>>>game center is also fairly good, however,  NFL Mobile and NBA Game
>>>time are simply dreadful!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
>>>Fielding
>>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro
>>>richr...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>>On Aug 10, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain
>>>mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
No damper at all.
 
Yeah, I repor

Re: NFL Mobile

[Cheryl Homiak]

Thanks much but this wasn't the issue most people were having. The issue was 
that the app wasn't providing us a place to sign in where it was supposed to be 
or anywhere else that we could find. So several of us reinstalled which did 
allow us to log in to our audiopass subscription but then didn't allow us to 
choose a favorite team but just assigned one. And I am still concerned because 
while I was able to log in I am not sure whether the app is still showing my 
audiopass subscription now. Also, for the person who was unable to find the way 
to subscribe, it should be in settings, though the path through "schedule" 
during a game may also provide you with a way to subscribe. I think this pretty 
much summarizes what has been discussed about NFL Mobile besides the fact that 
it is no longer a Verizon-only app. Also, it is my understanding that once you 
subscribe to audiopass, you can use it on your device or computer or wherever; 
the wording below suggests that the audiopass subscription through the NFL 
Mobile app is just for your iOS device but at least as far as I can tell there 
is no subscription that is limited to the iOS device. Subscriptions from the 
iOS device, the PC or Mac computer or anything else out there that can connect 
to the Internet and do the subscription applies to anything you want to listen 
on that is supported though I think you can only log in and listen on one at a 
time.



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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Aug 11, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Rajiv Shah  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> Since this thread has been a long one, I am not sure if someone previously 
> responded to this issue, but to hear AudioPass games, you need to do the 
> following:
> 
> 
> When you know that an NFL game is live, navigate to schedule. Tap on this. 
> The app screen will refresh and you will see the games currently playing. Tap 
> on the listen link. If you are logged in, the game should start playing, 
> provided that you have subscribed to AudioPass via the PC. If you have not, 
> you will be offered the option to make an in-app purchase to subscribe to 
> AudioPass for your IOS device.
> 
> 
> I hope this clears some things up.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Rajiv
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Paganelli 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:21:37 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
> 
> The last Bears game got cut off after the pregame stuff on line.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! 
> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gail the U. S. Male" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
> 
> 
> Alan, I also have this app, and I believe I listened to the bears one time
> last season with it. there's also
> http://www.freefootballradio.com
> which has a lot more feeds than the app. which I also use since I rarely am
> out and about while listening to football games. also there are scads of
> college broadcasts with either the app, or the website!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Alan Paganelli" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
> 
> 
> Ok, this helps too. I just got another app called All Football Radio for a
> buck 99 cents. The app seems to be totally accessible which I was concerned
> about for 2 bucks. Pretty much, when you pick your team, the app shows you
> all radio stations carrying that game on both sides of the ball. Unless
> your team has an agreement not to stream outside of the area, this should do
> the trick. I'll find out for the next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
> have such an arrangement. I have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
> I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
> Unless I'm just missing something.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keybo

RE: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

David,

Can the older Apple wall jacks that came with the 30-pin connector be used with 
the lightning ended cables?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 8:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

The Apple certified cables with lightning adaptors have a special chip which 
communicates with the battery system in the iDevice to best manage the battery 
charge and condition. Non Apple certified lightning adaptor cables do not have 
this chip, and will shorten one's ultimate battery life. I only use Apple 
certified cables for this reason.

Also, Apple certified wall adaptors have regulator technology which stops 
current flow if there is a strong power draw as well as surge protection. This 
system communicates with the lightning chip to best manage the iDevice or Mac 
battery condition and charging.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Aug 2014, at 9:07, "Alan Lemly" 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone 5 
using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap. 
However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using the 
Apple cable that came with my iPhone.

I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and how 
long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to the point 
of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to occur too 
frequently.

Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well are 
your Apple cables holding up?

Thanks for any comments.

Alan Lemly
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Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Kelly Pierce]

I have been advocating for increased technology access for 25 years
now. In the process, I have piled up a number of advocacy successes
from talking ATMs by the biggest banks to accessible audio interfaces
of voting machines to audio description at movie theaters. I have been
a moving force that has aided in securing this access on scores of
projects for hundreds of thousands of blind and disabled people.
Starting last year, I began advocating for accessible apps. In the
world of apps, most apps are not produced in a way that would fall
under the jurisdiction of the Americans with disabilities Act or other
disability policies put in place in the past 50 years. Therefore, I
found that personal appeal and persuasion are necessary and most
successful.

I always e-mail. I describe who I am, my station in life and how the
app is useful or would be potentially useful to me. I describe the
barriers with VoiceOver in clear and detailed language.  I also
explain how VO is built into every iPhone so validating the problem
and replicating it is simple. I conclude my message by stating
specifically the problems I want corrected.

I refer folks to the Apple Usability guidelines and the section that
spells out the issue in question if the problem is not obvious. The
communication to the developer is clear and complete and not like a
series of 140 character one-liners like those seen on Twitter.

Kelly




On 8/11/14, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> To my way of thinking, Apple *facilitates accessibility
>  in third-party apps, and not all of the reps at the accessibility service
> number will necessarily know all of the specific blindness-related apps.
> this is not to say that they shouldn't be familiarized with them to some
> extent. However, making accessibility available in a mainstream product is
> somewhat new territory.
>
> I would fully expect the folks at
> apple accessibility to be familiar with the apps built into iO
> s, such as Mail, Calendar, and Safari.
>
> There are many, many third-party apps, and I'm afraid the specific
> blindness-related ones like Seeing Assistant, Bard, and NFB Newsreader will
> be lost in the shuffle for the most part.
>
> I look at it this way: how many average blind folks know about switching
> devices for iOS, to be used by quadruplegics using mouth controls?
> Accessibility is always an education process. For example, i have
> experienced some hearing loss, but not to the extent that hearing aids are
> required. When hearing aids become necessary for me, I will definitely need
> to learn a lot about the use of them with iOS. Icould be learning now, as
> well. I know for a fact as a former access tech trainer that some trainers
> specialized in certain types of accessibility. I used Braille, and a
> colleague was much better than I was at teaching low-vision solutions, since
> I had never been sighted.
>
> I think we're at a frontier, and we need to be aware of this, even though,
> in all possible worlds, anyone getting paid to advise on accessibility
> issues should have some breadth and depth of knowledge on this very broad
> subjet.
>
> Just my two,
> Teresa
>
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing
> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>
>> On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Michelle Bernstein
>>  wrote:
>>
>> The bard mobile app is easy to locate I agree.  The nfb Newsline was not,
>> for me, when I searched nfb or national federation of the blind in the
>> iTunes Store and the App Store.  What was surprising to me was that these
>> apps were not familiar to the people who answered the apple accessibility
>> phone line.  Apparently I misunderstood the point of the original poster
>> in that he is looking for advice regarding speaking with developers, not
>> individual stories of frustration with dealing with customer service for
>> the accessibility device providers.  So please disregard my earlier post.
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Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[David Chittenden]

Both apps you mention are third-party apps, so are not Apple's responsibility. 
I would not expect Apple Accessibility to know third-party apps any more than I 
would expect you to know how to program my washing machine. For assistance with 
third-party apps, one must always contact the app developer, not Apple. For 
assistance with using one's Apple device, contact Apple.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Aug 2014, at 8:35, Michelle Bernstein  
> wrote:
> 
> It in interesting to me that even when I contact the apple accessibility 
> telephone number, I have to explain the apps that I am asking for help with 
> accessing.  Two recent examples are the Bard mobile app and the nfb Newsline 
> app.  In the case of the nfb Newsline app, the only way that I could locate 
> this app to download to my iPad was to use the link from the nfb Newsline 
> website.  Searching both iTunes Store and the App Store brought up other 
> results from nfb beside Newsline.  
> 
> In my opinion, the more you write or call anyone associated with the 
> technology you need will be beneficial.  It may not help as I found 
> repeatedly calling customer service from audible, but at least the more 
> voices that are heard, the better.  My assumption, and I hope that I am 
> wrong, as someone who became visually impaired as an adult, is that you need 
> to advocate and explain everything you need from technology at a very basic 
> level to be understood by the sighted community, even from places which make 
> technology which is supposed to be accessible.  Also remember that not 
> everyone is a wiz at technology and not everyone picks up these skills 
> quickly, especially if they are unfamiliar with navigating the world without 
> much or any sight.  Michelle
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Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[David Chittenden]

One key, that people forget, is to always press search in the lower right 
corner of the keyboard, or enter on the bluetooth keyboard, when searching for 
an app in the App Store. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Aug 2014, at 9:08, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> hmmm, maybe these got changed. I just went to the app store on my iPhone and 
> NFB Newsline was the third choice when I typed nfb and bard mobile was the 
> second choice when I typed bard. I then tried the same searches on my iPad 
> with the same results. So maybe something has been changed since you tried 
> these.
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Michelle Bernstein 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It in interesting to me that even when I contact the apple accessibility 
>> telephone number, I have to explain the apps that I am asking for help with 
>> accessing.  Two recent examples are the Bard mobile app and the nfb Newsline 
>> app.  In the case of the nfb Newsline app, the only way that I could locate 
>> this app to download to my iPad was to use the link from the nfb Newsline 
>> website.  Searching both iTunes Store and the App Store brought up other 
>> results from nfb beside Newsline.  
>> 
>> In my opinion, the more you write or call anyone associated with the 
>> technology you need will be beneficial.  It may not help as I found 
>> repeatedly calling customer service from audible, but at least the more 
>> voices that are heard, the better.  My assumption, and I hope that I am 
>> wrong, as someone who became visually impaired as an adult, is that you need 
>> to advocate and explain everything you need from technology at a very basic 
>> level to be understood by the sighted community, even from places which make 
>> technology which is supposed to be accessible.  Also remember that not 
>> everyone is a wiz at technology and not everyone picks up these skills 
>> quickly, especially if they are unfamiliar with navigating the world without 
>> much or any sight.  Michelle
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Re: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[David Chittenden]

The Apple certified cables with lightning adaptors have a special chip which 
communicates with the battery system in the iDevice to best manage the battery 
charge and condition. Non Apple certified lightning adaptor cables do not have 
this chip, and will shorten one's ultimate battery life. I only use Apple 
certified cables for this reason.

Also, Apple certified wall adaptors have regulator technology which stops 
current flow if there is a strong power draw as well as surge protection. This 
system communicates with the lightning chip to best manage the iDevice or Mac 
battery condition and charging.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Aug 2014, at 9:07, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
> I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone 5 
> using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap. 
> However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using the 
> Apple cable that came with my iPhone.
>  
> I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and how 
> long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to the 
> point of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to occur 
> too frequently.
>  
> Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well 
> are your Apple cables holding up?
>  
> Thanks for any comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

I recently called Apple Accessibility line for help with an encrypted backup. I 
was told that I’d been referred to a “Senior advisor”, or some such. Later, I 
was shunted to someone else. Both of these Apple Accessibility geniuses kept 
telling me to “Go Down” or “Just below that”, even though I told them I was 
blind, a VoiceOver user, and using “the screenreader JAWS on my PC”. They were 
very patient and, ultimately, helpful, but I was very surprised they didn’t 
seem to have a working concept of screenreader fundamentals, including TAB 
navigation.

I’ve had better experiences in the past. I guess a lot depends upon with whom 
you get on the other end of the line.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Cochran
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

To my way of thinking, Apple *facilitates accessibility
 in third-party apps, and not all of the reps at the accessibility service 
number will necessarily know all of the specific blindness-related apps.
this is not to say that they shouldn't be familiarized with them to some 
extent. However, making accessibility available in a mainstream product is 
somewhat new territory.

I would fully expect the folks at
apple accessibility to be familiar with the apps built into iO
s, such as Mail, Calendar, and Safari.

There are many, many third-party apps, and I'm afraid the specific 
blindness-related ones like Seeing Assistant, Bard, and NFB Newsreader will be 
lost in the shuffle for the most part.

I look at it this way: how many average blind folks know about switching 
devices for iOS, to be used by quadruplegics using mouth controls? 
Accessibility is always an education process. For example, i have experienced 
some hearing loss, but not to the extent that hearing aids are required. When 
hearing aids become necessary for me, I will definitely need to learn a lot 
about the use of them with iOS. Icould be learning now, as well. I know for a 
fact as a former access tech trainer that some trainers specialized in certain 
types of accessibility. I used Braille, and a colleague was much better than I 
was at teaching low-vision solutions, since I had never been sighted.

I think we're at a frontier, and we need to be aware of this, even though, in 
all possible worlds, anyone getting paid to advise on accessibility issues 
should have some breadth and depth of knowledge on this very broad subjet.

Just my two,
Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Michelle Bernstein 
mailto:michellebbbernst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The bard mobile app is easy to locate I agree.  The nfb Newsline was not, for 
me, when I searched nfb or national federation of the blind in the iTunes Store 
and the App Store.  What was surprising to me was that these apps were not 
familiar to the people who answered the apple accessibility phone line.  
Apparently I misunderstood the point of the original poster in that he is 
looking for advice regarding speaking with developers, not individual stories 
of frustration with dealing with customer service for the accessibility device 
providers.  So please disregard my earlier post.

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Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Teresa Cochran]

To my way of thinking, Apple *facilitates accessibility
 in third-party apps, and not all of the reps at the accessibility service 
number will necessarily know all of the specific blindness-related apps. 
this is not to say that they shouldn't be familiarized with them to some 
extent. However, making accessibility available in a mainstream product is 
somewhat new territory.

I would fully expect the folks at 
apple accessibility to be familiar with the apps built into iO
s, such as Mail, Calendar, and Safari.

There are many, many third-party apps, and I'm afraid the specific 
blindness-related ones like Seeing Assistant, Bard, and NFB Newsreader will be 
lost in the shuffle for the most part.

I look at it this way: how many average blind folks know about switching 
devices for iOS, to be used by quadruplegics using mouth controls? 
Accessibility is always an education process. For example, i have experienced 
some hearing loss, but not to the extent that hearing aids are required. When 
hearing aids become necessary for me, I will definitely need to learn a lot 
about the use of them with iOS. Icould be learning now, as well. I know for a 
fact as a former access tech trainer that some trainers specialized in certain 
types of accessibility. I used Braille, and a colleague was much better than I 
was at teaching low-vision solutions, since I had never been sighted.

I think we're at a frontier, and we need to be aware of this, even though, in 
all possible worlds, anyone getting paid to advise on accessibility issues 
should have some breadth and depth of knowledge on this very broad subjet.

Just my two,
Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Michelle Bernstein 
>  wrote:
> 
> The bard mobile app is easy to locate I agree.  The nfb Newsline was not, for 
> me, when I searched nfb or national federation of the blind in the iTunes 
> Store and the App Store.  What was surprising to me was that these apps were 
> not familiar to the people who answered the apple accessibility phone line.  
> Apparently I misunderstood the point of the original poster in that he is 
> looking for advice regarding speaking with developers, not individual stories 
> of frustration with dealing with customer service for the accessibility 
> device providers.  So please disregard my earlier post.
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Re: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Alan,

I just recently acquired an iPhone case with a battery charger in it and it's 
really neat.  However, from time to time, I also get that error message with 
that.  I can't remember the brand name of this case, but a lot of the time I 
have to press the charge button on the case to activate the charge again.  
However, I turned Bluetooth off tonight and I got the phone to give me a full 
charge in the case.  I don't know if that has anything to do with the error 
message or not.  I know someone who has the same case as I, but I don't know if 
he had ever gotten the same message.

Esther Levegnale

Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 5:07 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
> I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone 5 
> using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap. 
> However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using the 
> Apple cable that came with my iPhone.
>  
> I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and how 
> long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to the 
> point of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to occur 
> too frequently.
>  
> Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well 
> are your Apple cables holding up?
>  
> Thanks for any comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Christopher Chaltain]

I subscribed to NFL AudioPass on my PC, but I'm pretty sure you can also 
subscribe to it through an in app purchase on the NFL Mobile App.


1) If you bring up the NFL Mobile App, you can double tap on the menu 
button at the top of the screen.


2) Now double tap on the Schedules button. I find this by sliding my 
finger down the left hand side of the screen. Swiping doesn't always 
seem to get me there.


3) Double tap on the game you want to hear.

4) Double tap on the Replay button, and you'll be asked if you want to 
purchase an in app subscription for NFL AudioPass.


Note that last season you could only use the NFL Mobile App to listen to 
currently streaming games. I'm not sure if this has changed this season 
or not. On your PC, you can listen to any games, current or past, for 
the current season.


On 08/11/2014 05:41 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

You can not subscribe to Field Pass through the NFL Mobile app.  The
following link will take you to the page where you can subscribe, then
listen on the pc.  It uses flash for listening on the pc, so I don't
know what would happen if you tried to listen on a Mac.  You allegedly
can link this field pass account to your NFL Mobile app.  I did this
last year, this year, I couldn't get that far. I just checked, and
in my opinion, the pricing for Field Pass definitely is going in the
wrong direction, $29.95 through January 9, or $39.95 through the end of
the season.  I got it through the end of the season for $29.95, I guess,
because I subscribed last year, they probably will hit me up for the
$39.95 one next year.

Arnold Schmidt
https://audiopass.nfl.com/nflap/secure/packages?ttv=0
- Original Message - From: "Alan Paganelli"

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, I must be stupid because I cannot find on the NFL Mobile app
anywhere to
subscribe to the audio pass.  Unless it isn't available for AT&T customers.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Yes, the NFL has . You can get the radio broadcasts of the NFL games
for the season for $20. There are other packages available as well.

Are you asking about the NHL though, since you mention hockey?

On 08/10/2014 07:01 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:

Does the NFL have a reasonable audio only subscription? I couldn't find
any info on this last year, and the hockey season is fast approaching!

- Original Message -
*From:* Rich Ring 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Cc:* Rich Ring 
*Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:59 PM
*Subject:* Re: NFL Mobile

MLB has made a truly VO friendly app for listening to baseball. NHL
game center is also fairly good, however,  NFL Mobile and NBA Game
time are simply dreadful!


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro
richr...@gmail.com 

On Aug 10, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


No damper at all.

Yeah, I reported the two problems I've seen with the NFL Mobile
App, both the problem where I couldn't sign into my NFL AudioPass
account and the problem where I couldn't select my favorite team.
I haven't heard back from them yet, but I didn't submit those
issues until recently, since the contact form on the web site is a
bit problematic. They were pretty responsive last season when I
reported a few issues.

On 08/10/2014 10:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi,

I don't mean to put a damper on this topic, but has anyone tried to
contact them about the various issues you are experiencing? Simply
saying "they could work on the accessibility of the app" won't get
anywhere, especially if they have no idea of what could need
fixing, or
even about VoiceOver in general. You can submit feedback to them
directly from the app, so I'd strongly encourage all to do so..

On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:


I guess I got lucky. I came up with the Dolphins, which is my
favorite
team.

On 8/9/2014 9:59 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Same experience here, right down to the Jaguars.
Andy
*From:*Nicki Keck 
*Sent:*Sa

Re: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[Joanne Chua]

Hi,
I have the same message charging with non apple certify cable when i was 
overseas.
I think, since then, it rulen my battery life quite significantly. i was away 
for quite some period of time.
I guess, just be aware of the damage it might cause, using the 3rd party cable.
According to Apple, my battery was on 20% of its normal capacity.
I'm lucky that they replace the battery for me free of charge.
Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

> On 12 Aug 2014, at 6:37, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
> I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone 5 
> using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap. 
> However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using the 
> Apple cable that came with my iPhone.
>  
> I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and how 
> long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to the 
> point of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to occur 
> too frequently.
>  
> Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well 
> are your Apple cables holding up?
>  
> Thanks for any comments.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Arnold Schmidt]

You can not subscribe to Field Pass through the NFL Mobile app.  The 
following link will take you to the page where you can subscribe, then 
listen on the pc.  It uses flash for listening on the pc, so I don't know 
what would happen if you tried to listen on a Mac.  You allegedly can link 
this field pass account to your NFL Mobile app.  I did this last year, this 
year, I couldn't get that far. I just checked, and in my opinion, the 
pricing for Field Pass definitely is going in the wrong direction, $29.95 
through January 9, or $39.95 through the end of the season.  I got it 
through the end of the season for $29.95, I guess, because I subscribed last 
year, they probably will hit me up for the $39.95 one next year.


Arnold Schmidt
https://audiopass.nfl.com/nflap/secure/packages?ttv=0
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, I must be stupid because I cannot find on the NFL Mobile app anywhere to
subscribe to the audio pass.  Unless it isn't available for AT&T customers.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Yes, the NFL has . You can get the radio broadcasts of the NFL games
for the season for $20. There are other packages available as well.

Are you asking about the NHL though, since you mention hockey?

On 08/10/2014 07:01 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:

Does the NFL have a reasonable audio only subscription? I couldn't find
any info on this last year, and the hockey season is fast approaching!

- Original Message -
*From:* Rich Ring 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Cc:* Rich Ring 
*Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:59 PM
*Subject:* Re: NFL Mobile

MLB has made a truly VO friendly app for listening to baseball. NHL
game center is also fairly good, however,  NFL Mobile and NBA Game
time are simply dreadful!


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro
richr...@gmail.com 

On Aug 10, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


No damper at all.

Yeah, I reported the two problems I've seen with the NFL Mobile
App, both the problem where I couldn't sign into my NFL AudioPass
account and the problem where I couldn't select my favorite team.
I haven't heard back from them yet, but I didn't submit those
issues until recently, since the contact form on the web site is a
bit problematic. They were pretty responsive last season when I
reported a few issues.

On 08/10/2014 10:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi,

I don't mean to put a damper on this topic, but has anyone tried to
contact them about the various issues you are experiencing? Simply
saying "they could work on the accessibility of the app" won't get
anywhere, especially if they have no idea of what could need
fixing, or
even about VoiceOver in general. You can submit feedback to them
directly from the app, so I'd strongly encourage all to do so..

On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:


I guess I got lucky. I came up with the Dolphins, which is my
favorite
team.

On 8/9/2014 9:59 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Same experience here, right down to the Jaguars.
Andy
*From:*Nicki Keck 
*Sent:*Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:18 AM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: NFL Mobile
I had to reinstall the app as well and can't select my favorite
team
either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars 
as

my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the
Eagles, but
the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his
limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but 
if

someone has a better way, I'd be very happy.  You can get back
to it
in settings, but you still can't select one.
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of

RE: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[Jeffrey Turner]

Hi,

 

I got this error message for a while while charging my iPhone 5, but if I
flipped the charger connector over and plugged it in the other way, it
charged just fine. I surmise that some dust got in there and queered the
connection. Since then, it cleared itself up and I haven't gotten the
message for a while now.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

 

I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone
5 using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap.
However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using
the Apple cable that came with my iPhone.

 

I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and
how long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to
the point of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to
occur too frequently.

 

Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well
are your Apple cables holding up?

 

Thanks for any comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: NFL Mobile

[Rajiv Shah]

Hi Allen,This is carrier-independent because I am using my long-standing PC 
subscription and I have T-Mobile as my provider.Rajiv

- Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:57:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

Hello Rajiv, I've asked several times but didn't get the step by 
step explanation.  Will this work even with AT&T users?  Thank you 
in advance for your assistance.  Regards, Alan Go Chicago Bears in 2014! 
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
now!  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still 
know everything. Please click on: 
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, 
you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the 
Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for 
listening!
- Original Message - From:Rajiv 
 ShahTo:viphone@googlegroups.comSent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:52 
 PMSubject: Re: NFL Mobile
Hi,Since this thread has been a long one, I am not sure if someone previously 
 responded to this issue, but to hear AudioPass games, you need to do the 
 following:When you know that an NFL game is live, navigate to schedule. Tap on 
this. 
 The app screen will refresh and you will see the games currently playing. Tap 
 on the listen link. If you are logged in, the game should start playing, 
 provided that you have subscribed to AudioPass via the PC. If you have not, 
 you will be offered the option to make an in-app purchase to subscribe to 
 AudioPass for your IOS device.I hope this clears some things 
up.Regards,Rajiv- Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli 
 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: 
 Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:21:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

The 
 last Bears game got cut off after the pregame stuff on 
 line.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 
 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act 
 now! 
Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know 
 everything.

Please click 
 on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find 
 free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 
 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my 
website are still 
 available upon request. Thanks for listening!

- Original Message 
 - 
From: "Gail the U. S. Male" 
To: 
 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:09 
 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Alan, I also have this app, and I 
 believe I listened to the bears one time
last season with it. there's 
 also
http://www.freefootballradio.com
which has a lot more feeds than 
 the app. which I also use since I rarely am
out and about while listening 
 to football games. also there are scads of
college broadcasts with either 
 the app, or the website!
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan 
 Paganelli" 
To: 
 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:24 
 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, this helps too. I just got 
 another app called All Football Radio for a
buck 99 cents. The app seems to 
 be totally accessible which I was concerned
about for 2 bucks. Pretty much, 
 when you pick your team, the app shows you
all radio stations carrying that 
 game on both sides of the ball. Unless
your team has an agreement not to 
 stream outside of the area, this should do
the trick. I'll find out for the 
 next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
have such an arrangement. I have 
 a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
I just can't find anywhere on the 
 NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
Unless I'm just missing 
 something.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 
 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act 
 now!
Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know 
 everything.

Please click 
 on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find 
 free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 
 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my
website are still 
 available upon request. Thanks for listening!

- Original Message 
 - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 
 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


I'm sure there are other and probably 
 better ways to do this, but what I
do is select the teams button at the top 
 of the page. I can't always
swipe to this button, but I can find it either 
 by swiping or exploring.

On the next page, unless I want to watch a 
 Dolphins game, I double tap
the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. 
 This brings up a picker
where I can select another team. Once I select the 
 Bears, I just double
tap on the done button.

Since there aren't any 
 games playing right now, I'm not sure what
happens next, but I'd look for 
 the Game Center button and an AudioPass
button. Unless things have change, 
 you can only use the Mobile App to
listen to currently streaming games. On 

Re: NFL Mobile

[Alan Paganelli]

Hello Rajiv,

I've asked several times but didn't get the step by step explanation.  Will 
this work even with AT&T users?  Thank you in advance for your assistance.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rajiv Shah 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:52 PM
  Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


  Hi,


  Since this thread has been a long one, I am not sure if someone previously 
responded to this issue, but to hear AudioPass games, you need to do the 
following:


  When you know that an NFL game is live, navigate to schedule. Tap on this. 
The app screen will refresh and you will see the games currently playing. Tap 
on the listen link. If you are logged in, the game should start playing, 
provided that you have subscribed to AudioPass via the PC. If you have not, you 
will be offered the option to make an in-app purchase to subscribe to AudioPass 
for your IOS device.


  I hope this clears some things up.


  Regards,


  Rajiv


  - Original Message -
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:21:37 -0400 (EDT)
  Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

  The last Bears game got cut off after the pregame stuff on line.


  Regards,

  Alan

  Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! 
  Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

  Please click on:
  HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my 
  website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Gail the U. S. Male" 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


  Alan, I also have this app, and I believe I listened to the bears one time
  last season with it. there's also
  http://www.freefootballradio.com
  which has a lot more feeds than the app. which I also use since I rarely am
  out and about while listening to football games. also there are scads of
  college broadcasts with either the app, or the website!
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Alan Paganelli" 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


  Ok, this helps too. I just got another app called All Football Radio for a
  buck 99 cents. The app seems to be totally accessible which I was concerned
  about for 2 bucks. Pretty much, when you pick your team, the app shows you
  all radio stations carrying that game on both sides of the ball. Unless
  your team has an agreement not to stream outside of the area, this should do
  the trick. I'll find out for the next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
  have such an arrangement. I have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
  I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
  Unless I'm just missing something.


  Regards,

  Alan

  Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
  Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

  Please click on:
  HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my
  website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 PM
  Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


  I'm sure there are other and probably better ways to do this, but what I
  do is select the teams button at the top of the page. I can't always
  swipe to this button, but I can find it either by swiping or exploring.

  On the next page, unless I want to watch a Dolphins game, I double tap
  the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. This brings up a picker
  where I can select another team. Once I select the Bears, I just double
  tap on the done button.

  Since there aren't any games playing right now, I'm not sure what
  happens next, but I'd look for the Game Center button and an AudioPass
  button. Unless things have change, you can only use the Mobile App to
  listen to currently streaming games. On the PC, you can listen to any
  game that's been played that season, as well as the currently streaming
  games.

  On 08/10/2014 12:38 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
  > What I don't understand is, I some how stumb

Re: NFL Mobile

[Rajiv Shah]

Hi,Since this thread has been a long one, I am not sure if someone previously 
responded to this issue, but to hear AudioPass games, you need to do the 
following:When you know that an NFL game is live, navigate to schedule. Tap on 
this. The app screen will refresh and you will see the games currently playing. 
Tap on the listen link. If you are logged in, the game should start playing, 
provided that you have subscribed to AudioPass via the PC. If you have not, you 
will be offered the option to make an in-app purchase to subscribe to AudioPass 
for your IOS device.I hope this clears some things up.Regards,Rajiv- 
Original Message -
From: Alan Paganelli 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 12:21:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

The last Bears game got cut off after the pregame stuff on line.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now! 
Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Gail the U. S. Male" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Alan, I also have this app, and I believe I listened to the bears one time
last season with it. there's also
http://www.freefootballradio.com
which has a lot more feeds than the app. which I also use since I rarely am
out and about while listening to football games. also there are scads of
college broadcasts with either the app, or the website!
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, this helps too. I just got another app called All Football Radio for a
buck 99 cents. The app seems to be totally accessible which I was concerned
about for 2 bucks. Pretty much, when you pick your team, the app shows you
all radio stations carrying that game on both sides of the ball. Unless
your team has an agreement not to stream outside of the area, this should do
the trick. I'll find out for the next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
have such an arrangement. I have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
Unless I'm just missing something.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!
Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my
website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


I'm sure there are other and probably better ways to do this, but what I
do is select the teams button at the top of the page. I can't always
swipe to this button, but I can find it either by swiping or exploring.

On the next page, unless I want to watch a Dolphins game, I double tap
the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. This brings up a picker
where I can select another team. Once I select the Bears, I just double
tap on the done button.

Since there aren't any games playing right now, I'm not sure what
happens next, but I'd look for the Game Center button and an AudioPass
button. Unless things have change, you can only use the Mobile App to
listen to currently streaming games. On the PC, you can listen to any
game that's been played that season, as well as the currently streaming
games.

On 08/10/2014 12:38 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
> What I don't understand is, I some how stumbled on selecting my team. I
> have no clue what I did to get there because by that time I was so
> frustrated with the app it wasn't even funny. I'm with AT&T and what
> I'd like to know is this. From the NFL app how can I get the audio pass
> to listen to the Chicago Bears games. I'm tired of listening to the
> game via text message through the bears app. Listening that way sucks.
> Who ever sends the texts sometimes gets excited and forgets to text the
> next play or so. Kind of makes one wanna throw the iPhone against the
> wall! 
> Regards,
> Alan
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act
> now! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know
> everything.
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> 
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
> on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.

Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Michelle Bernstein]

The bard mobile app is easy to locate I agree.  The nfb Newsline was not, for 
me, when I searched nfb or national federation of the blind in the iTunes Store 
and the App Store.  What was surprising to me was that these apps were not 
familiar to the people who answered the apple accessibility phone line.  
Apparently I misunderstood the point of the original poster in that he is 
looking for advice regarding speaking with developers, not individual stories 
of frustration with dealing with customer service for the accessibility device 
providers.  So please disregard my earlier post.

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Re: This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[Alan Paganelli]

Well, I've had my lightning cable sense I got my iPhone 5s on October 20, 2013 
so it's just months short of a year.  I got my iPad Air in January of this 
year.  Both cables are still in perfect condition.  I too take very good care 
of my equipment and cables and connectors.  Even when I traveled on the road 
with a band I did the same thing.  I guess when it comes to cables and 
connectors I just hate to have to buy another one if I can at all help it.  I 
did buy an extra lightening cable though as a backup.  It's still in it's 
packaging it came in.  I never opened it up.


Regards,

Alan

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Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  Move 
out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on: 
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:07 PM
  Subject: This Accessory May Not Be Supported


  I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone 5 
using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap. 
However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using the 
Apple cable that came with my iPhone.



  I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and how 
long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to the point 
of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to occur too 
frequently.



  Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well 
are your Apple cables holding up?



  Thanks for any comments.



  Alan Lemly


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Re: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Cheryl Homiak]

hmmm, maybe these got changed. I just went to the app store on my iPhone and 
NFB Newsline was the third choice when I typed nfb and bard mobile was the 
second choice when I typed bard. I then tried the same searches on my iPad with 
the same results. So maybe something has been changed since you tried these.

-- 
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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
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On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Michelle Bernstein  
wrote:

> It in interesting to me that even when I contact the apple accessibility 
> telephone number, I have to explain the apps that I am asking for help with 
> accessing.  Two recent examples are the Bard mobile app and the nfb Newsline 
> app.  In the case of the nfb Newsline app, the only way that I could locate 
> this app to download to my iPad was to use the link from the nfb Newsline 
> website.  Searching both iTunes Store and the App Store brought up other 
> results from nfb beside Newsline.  
> 
> In my opinion, the more you write or call anyone associated with the 
> technology you need will be beneficial.  It may not help as I found 
> repeatedly calling customer service from audible, but at least the more 
> voices that are heard, the better.  My assumption, and I hope that I am 
> wrong, as someone who became visually impaired as an adult, is that you need 
> to advocate and explain everything you need from technology at a very basic 
> level to be understood by the sighted community, even from places which make 
> technology which is supposed to be accessible.  Also remember that not 
> everyone is a wiz at technology and not everyone picks up these skills 
> quickly, especially if they are unfamiliar with navigating the world without 
> much or any sight.  Michelle
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This Accessory May Not Be Supported

[Alan Lemly]

I'm used to getting the above subject error message when charging my iPhone
5 using the third-party lightning cable I bought from Amazon on the cheap.
However, I'm now starting to get it from time to time when charging using
the Apple cable that came with my iPhone.

 

I'm curious with what others have experienced with their Apple cables and
how long they've lasted. I take extremely good care of my stuff almost to
the point of being OCD so I'm concerned that this message is starting to
occur too frequently.

 

Is anyone else getting this message and under what circumstances? How well
are your Apple cables holding up?

 

Thanks for any comments.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Alan Lemly]

Jonathan Mosen has a site devoted to explaining accessibility for apps and
you might want to check it out here and bookmark it:

http://www.appcessible.net/


Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brice Smith
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 3:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Advocating for VO Accessibility

Hello, everyone.

What resources do you use to explain Voiceover to application
developers? When contacting people to ask for accessibility, how much
explaining is typically required to get the ball rolling? Do you find
that this process takes a lot of explaining, or does simply mentioning
VO get the job done?

Brice

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Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Michelle Bernstein]

It in interesting to me that even when I contact the apple accessibility 
telephone number, I have to explain the apps that I am asking for help with 
accessing.  Two recent examples are the Bard mobile app and the nfb Newsline 
app.  In the case of the nfb Newsline app, the only way that I could locate 
this app to download to my iPad was to use the link from the nfb Newsline 
website.  Searching both iTunes Store and the App Store brought up other 
results from nfb beside Newsline.  

In my opinion, the more you write or call anyone associated with the technology 
you need will be beneficial.  It may not help as I found repeatedly calling 
customer service from audible, but at least the more voices that are heard, the 
better.  My assumption, and I hope that I am wrong, as someone who became 
visually impaired as an adult, is that you need to advocate and explain 
everything you need from technology at a very basic level to be understood by 
the sighted community, even from places which make technology which is supposed 
to be accessible.  Also remember that not everyone is a wiz at technology and 
not everyone picks up these skills quickly, especially if they are unfamiliar 
with navigating the world without much or any sight.  Michelle

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Re: Mac Visionaries list?

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macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. You'll get a response that your 
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On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
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> May I have the subscription link please?
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> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
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> On 11 Aug 2014, at 04:41, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Chris or Cara. They are usually good about approving, but Google Groups 
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> them at macvisionaries+moderat...@googlegroups.com, if I remember right.
> On Aug 10, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Jose Lomeli  wrote:
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>> Hello; Listers, who is in-charge of the Mac Visionaries list? I subscribed 
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Re: Microsoft OneDrive now offering 1 Terrabyte of storage with Office 365 Home subscription

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

Hello is there a way to upload the stuff to the cloud and remove it from 
the computer and have it save it and not remove it?
I had a simular cloud storage threw google drive and when I removed the 
stuff from the hard drive it decided it would also remove the stuff from 
my google drive as well and I lost 500 gigs of stuff.
is there a way with one drive to not have it do this and if I remove 
stuff off the computer once uploaded it won't remove it from the cloud?

Hank


On 8/10/2014 5:44 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hello Listers,

I know the topic of cloud/online storage often comes up on the list. 
Since I haven't seen anybody else post about this, I thought I let 
everybody know that Microsoft is now offering a whopping 1 Tb of 
storage with a Office 365 Home subscription which costs $99 per year.


The subscription also entitles you to download and install a full 
version of Office 2013 on up to 5 computers and if you set up accounts 
for up to 5 family members under that subscription each person 
actually gets 1 Tb of storage for a total of 5 Tb of storage.


The OneDrive app on the iPhone is very accessible and offers many of 
the same features as Dropbox does including camera roll backup, music 
and video file playback etc.


Even spending $99 a year (just $8.25 a month) for 1 Tb of storage is 
pretty attractive, but you also get full use of Office 2013 on up to 5 
devices.


Regards,

Sieghard

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Advocating for VO Accessibility

[Brice Smith]

Hello, everyone.

What resources do you use to explain Voiceover to application
developers? When contacting people to ask for accessibility, how much
explaining is typically required to get the ball rolling? Do you find
that this process takes a lot of explaining, or does simply mentioning
VO get the job done?

Brice

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RE: Text messages taken up storage on my iPhone when I don't have any help please

[M. Taylor]

Paul,

You wrote:
"Unfortunately, with 7.1.2, double tapping on music or messages or whatever,
does nothing.
So, if you have 7.1.2, you are probably out of luck there."

I do not understand your conclusion.  I just looked into this on my 5 S
running 7.1.2 and upon selecting Music, for example, had access to the usual
options including deleting items.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Text messages taken up storage on my iPhone when I don't have
any help please

You should be able to double tap on saved messages then flick to the delete
button.
Unfortunately, with 7.1.2, double tapping on music or messages or whatever,
does nothing.
So, if you have 7.1.2, you are probably out of luck there.

On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Conrad Bennett  wrote:

> I do not have any text messages on my iPhone now but when I get to
settings general usage it still shows saved messages what can I do help
please I do not want to have to do a complete reset and lose everything is
it a glitch in iOS 7 if anybody else is having this problem let me know
thanks
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Re: Mac Visionaries list?

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

May I have the subscription link please?

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Aug 2014, at 04:41, Alex Hall  wrote:

Chris or Cara. They are usually good about approving, but Google Groups 
sometimes fails to notify them that anyone joined. I think you can contact them 
at macvisionaries+moderat...@googlegroups.com, if I remember right.
> On Aug 10, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Jose Lomeli  wrote:
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> Hello; Listers, who is in-charge of the Mac Visionaries list? I subscribed to 
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> Jose Lomeli
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Re: Light indicator app

[RobH.]

Sorry, I understand now,  I think we could all use one of those if it turns 
up.

Thanks, Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandratomkins" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Light indicator app


Rob,
As far as I am aware, the torch that is  in the control Centre, 
enables/disables the flashlight which is built into the phone. I am looking 
for a camera app which can tell me if LEDs are on or off.

Thanks for the response though,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2014, at 12:21, "RobH."  wrote:
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> In Control centre, doesn't the torch button tell you this?
> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: Light indicator app
>
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> Hello the list,
> Can someone recommend an app that will be able to tell me if the LED light
> is on or off?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sandy
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Re: Bluetooth keyboard commands with voiceover

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Shawn,

The keyboard command for copying last-spoken text to the clipboard is 
VO-shift-C. The best place to find VO keystrokes is in the user manual. There's 
a section called "using Voiceover with an Apple Wireless keyboard". Most of 
those are applicable to third-party keyboards. You can turn quick-nav off with 
the two side arrow keys pressed at the same time, and toggle it on the same 
way. This way you can use command-shift-arrows to select text. This mostly 
works in editable text areas, but you can use the VO-shift-C option in Safari.

HtH,
Teresa

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> On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Shawn  wrote:
> 
> I have found plenty of sites that give me most basic commands for working 
> voiceover with a bluetooth keyboard, but I have a few questions.
> I want to be able to copy and paste unediditable text such as off of safari, 
> is this possible using a bluetooth keyboard?  Also is there a keyboard 
> command for the Quadruple three finger tap  to copy the last spoken text?
> What is everyones favorite website for finding bluetooth keyboard commands on 
> the iPhone?
>  
> Thanks for any help
> shawn
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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Teresa Cochran]

Just curious; is there a Braille equivalent for the three-finger quadruple-tap? 
I know on the keyboard it's VO-shift-C, yes?

Teresa

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> On Aug 11, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Also, with zoom on, most VoiceOver gestures need an extra tap. So, to copy 
> what VoiceOver just said would take 5 taps with three fingers instead of 4.
> I think it is easier to remember to turn off zoom.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
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>> Thank you, Anna and Asher. Once I turned off the zoom function, it did work. 
>>  I assume that I then move to whatever document In which I want to paste the 
>> annotation, touch the screen and double tap to paste the annotation. Btw, 
>> Anna, I am finding your book, "Getting Started with the iPhone" quite 
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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Richard Turner]

Also, with zoom on, most VoiceOver gestures need an extra tap. So, to copy what 
VoiceOver just said would take 5 taps with three fingers instead of 4.
I think it is easier to remember to turn off zoom.
HTH,
Richard


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Re: Amazon Fire TV

[Patti Johnson]

Hi, I think this is nice but it is all we can do, we can't scroll around 
to see what is on the device.
But if searching by voice makes it really work, then maybe I'll think 
about getting it too.

Patti
On 8/11/2014 2:50 PM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I received an advertisement for the Amazon Fire TV this morning. According
to the info I read, voice recognition will be built into the remote. My
understanding is user's will be able to use the voice recognition feature to
find movies and other content available through the remote. Has anyone
purchased this yet? What do you think?

Thank you,

Lynda



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Amazon Fire TV

[Lynda Ingraham]

Hi Everyone, 

I received an advertisement for the Amazon Fire TV this morning. According
to the info I read, voice recognition will be built into the remote. My
understanding is user's will be able to use the voice recognition feature to
find movies and other content available through the remote. Has anyone
purchased this yet? What do you think? 

Thank you, 

Lynda 

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How can I change my Outlook 2010 to thread view on my PC running JAWS, so I can better cull viPhone subjects for interest?

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

When I travel, I let my emails sit unattended, but upon return I have a lot to 
wade through.

I usually like to read messages individually, but I have been finding recently 
a need to streamline the process.

I can't figure out how to change to thread view in Outlook 2010 on my PC 
running JAWS. Can someone please help? This will allow me better time 
management when reviewing a week's worth of viPhone messages.

Many thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi michelle,

i'm so glad you're finding the book useful.

When you're in the document where you want to paste, double-tap so you can 
edit. Then use the rotor to choose Edit, flick up or down until you get to 
Paste, and double-tap.

Best,
Anna



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> I assume that I then move to whatever document In which I want to paste the 
> annotation, touch the screen and double tap to paste the annotation. Btw, 
> Anna, I am finding your book, "Getting Started with the iPhone" quite 
> helpful.  Michelle
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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Michelle Bernstein]

Thank you, Anna and Asher. Once I turned off the zoom function, it did work.  I 
assume that I then move to whatever document In which I want to paste the 
annotation, touch the screen and double tap to paste the annotation. Btw, Anna, 
I am finding your book, "Getting Started with the iPhone" quite helpful.  
Michelle

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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Sounds like Zoom is on. Turn off Zoom, and be sure VoiceOver has just spoken 
the annotation. Then try the three-finger quadruple tap.

Best,
Anna

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> When I try three finger quadruple tap on the page with the description of the 
> BARD book with VoiceOver on, it activates the screen curtain.  
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Re: Getting out of list of PDF files in iBooks

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Wayne,

You should find a PDFs button near the top left of the screen, or somewhere 
near the top. When you press that, you'll have several options, including 
Books. Choose Books, and you'll be in a list of your ePub books.

Best,
Anna



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> Greetings all. I opened iBooks this weekend to read some more in one
> of the books I had purchased. I found myself in a list of PDF files.
> The last time I had opened iBooks, I had mistakenly chosen to open a
> PDF file within iBooks. I will not do that again. Anyway, I can't get
> back to my library of already purchased books. Closing the app and
> reopening it has not done any good. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> Using latest iBooks on an iPhone 5.
> 
> Thanks,
> Wayne
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Bluetooth keyboard commands with voiceover

[Shawn]

I have found plenty of sites that give me most basic commands for working 
voiceover with a bluetooth keyboard, but I have a few questions.
I want to be able to copy and paste unediditable text such as off of safari, is 
this possible using a bluetooth keyboard?  Also is there a keyboard command for 
the Quadruple three finger tap  to copy the last spoken text?
What is everyones favorite website for finding bluetooth keyboard commands on 
the iPhone?

Thanks for any help
shawn

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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

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When I try three finger quadruple tap on the page with the description of the 
BARD book with VoiceOver on, it activates the screen curtain.  

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RE: No sounds on iPad 2

[Wendy Alling]

Yes, I did ask her to check the mute switch and she said it was off.

 

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: No sounds on iPad 2

 

Have you had her make sure the mute switch is off? It's right above the
volume buttons; slide it up or down whichever way it will go, and see if
that fixes things. If not, or if she has that switch set to lock orientation
instead, open Settings > Sound and check the volume/mute status in there.

On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Wendy Alling  wrote:







Sent from my iPhone hi all, my sister, who is cited, has lost her sounds on
her iPad too. Sounds include email sounds both sending and receiving and
clicks as she types such as sending messages can anyone help thank you Wendy

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Re: Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Aser Tolentino]

Try using three finger quadruple tap.

Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:50, Michelle Bernstein  
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> I would like to copy and paste an annotation for a BARD book to my email, but 
> the option to use control plus c is not available on the touch screen.  How 
> do you copy and paste a BARD annotation with the iPad?
> 
> Michelle
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Re: Weird issue editing recurring appointments in Fantastical 2

[Richard Turner]

That happened to me as well.
I have not written Fantastical yet.
Richard


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Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Greetings. I had  a weird issue pop up last week when trying to edit a
> recurring event in Fantastical 2. This has never happened before. I
> opened an appointment from a recurring series with the intent of
> editing the appointment, setting its start time an hour later than all
> other appointments. After I had done this and double tapped Done, I
> got the usual message about changing this appointment or all future
> appointments in the series. After I double tapped to change this
> appointment only button, I was told by the app that the entire series
> had been deleted and there were no appointments left to change, and
> then put back in my list of appointments. I setup the series again and
> tried to modify the start time twice more, with the same error. Can
> anyone recreate this? Is it a bug? Granted, the number of times I will
> have to change a single appointment's start time are few and far
> between. I was still concerned when my whole series was deleted after
> I chose to apply the change to the single appointment. Using latest
> Fantastical 2 on an iPhone 5.
> 
> Best,
> Wayne
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Weird issue editing recurring appointments in Fantastical 2

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings. I had  a weird issue pop up last week when trying to edit a
recurring event in Fantastical 2. This has never happened before. I
opened an appointment from a recurring series with the intent of
editing the appointment, setting its start time an hour later than all
other appointments. After I had done this and double tapped Done, I
got the usual message about changing this appointment or all future
appointments in the series. After I double tapped to change this
appointment only button, I was told by the app that the entire series
had been deleted and there were no appointments left to change, and
then put back in my list of appointments. I setup the series again and
tried to modify the start time twice more, with the same error. Can
anyone recreate this? Is it a bug? Granted, the number of times I will
have to change a single appointment's start time are few and far
between. I was still concerned when my whole series was deleted after
I chose to apply the change to the single appointment. Using latest
Fantastical 2 on an iPhone 5.

Best,
Wayne

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Getting out of list of PDF files in iBooks

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings all. I opened iBooks this weekend to read some more in one
of the books I had purchased. I found myself in a list of PDF files.
The last time I had opened iBooks, I had mistakenly chosen to open a
PDF file within iBooks. I will not do that again. Anyway, I can't get
back to my library of already purchased books. Closing the app and
reopening it has not done any good. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Using latest iBooks on an iPhone 5.

Thanks,
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Copying and pasting a BARD annotation to an email

[Michelle Bernstein]

I would like to copy and paste an annotation for a BARD book to my email, but 
the option to use control plus c is not available on the touch screen.  How do 
you copy and paste a BARD annotation with the iPad?

Michelle

Sent from my iPad

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Re: NFL Mobile

[Alan Paganelli]

Ok, I must be stupid because I cannot find on the NFL Mobile app anywhere to 
subscribe to the audio pass.  Unless it isn't available for AT&T customers.



Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Yes, the NFL has . You can get the radio broadcasts of the NFL games
for the season for $20. There are other packages available as well.

Are you asking about the NHL though, since you mention hockey?

On 08/10/2014 07:01 PM, Gail the U. S. Male wrote:

Does the NFL have a reasonable audio only subscription? I couldn't find
any info on this last year, and the hockey season is fast approaching!

- Original Message -
*From:* Rich Ring 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Cc:* Rich Ring 
*Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:59 PM
*Subject:* Re: NFL Mobile

MLB has made a truly VO friendly app for listening to baseball. NHL
game center is also fairly good, however,  NFL Mobile and NBA Game
time are simply dreadful!


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro
richr...@gmail.com 

On Aug 10, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:


No damper at all.

Yeah, I reported the two problems I've seen with the NFL Mobile
App, both the problem where I couldn't sign into my NFL AudioPass
account and the problem where I couldn't select my favorite team.
I haven't heard back from them yet, but I didn't submit those
issues until recently, since the contact form on the web site is a
bit problematic. They were pretty responsive last season when I
reported a few issues.

On 08/10/2014 10:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

Hi,

I don't mean to put a damper on this topic, but has anyone tried to
contact them about the various issues you are experiencing? Simply
saying "they could work on the accessibility of the app" won't get
anywhere, especially if they have no idea of what could need
fixing, or
even about VoiceOver in general. You can submit feedback to them
directly from the app, so I'd strongly encourage all to do so..

On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
> wrote:


I guess I got lucky. I came up with the Dolphins, which is my
favorite
team.

On 8/9/2014 9:59 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Same experience here, right down to the Jaguars.
Andy
*From:*Nicki Keck 
*Sent:*Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:18 AM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Subject:*RE: NFL Mobile
I had to reinstall the app as well and can't select my favorite
team
either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars 
as

my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the
Eagles, but
the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his
limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but 
if

someone has a better way, I'd be very happy.  You can get back
to it
in settings, but you still can't select one.
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Cheryl Homiak
*Sent:*Monday, August 04, 2014 11:23 AM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:*Re: NFL Mobile
Well, I guess this is progress but I'm not happy yet! I
re-downloaded
the app and was finally able to sign in but now it has me down for
the Ravens as my favorite team and when I try to change it
there are
no choices: it just says select your favorite team and has a 
button

to pick another team to follow and has a "done" button. Nothing I
press allows me to change my favorite team.
Btw on the ipad I was able to sign in without reinstalling the 
app.
It was on the main page but was was some other information I had 
to

click "got it" for before the sign in button would work.



   --
   Cheryl
   I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
   I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the tr

Re: NFL Mobile

[Alan Paganelli]

The last Bears game got cut off after the pregame stuff on line.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: "Gail the U. S. Male" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Alan, I also have this app, and I believe I listened to the bears one time
last season with it. there's also
http://www.freefootballradio.com
which has a lot more feeds than the app. which I also use since I rarely am
out and about while listening to football games. also there are scads of
college broadcasts with either the app, or the website!
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, this helps too.  I just got another app called All Football Radio for a
buck 99 cents.  The app seems to be totally accessible which I was concerned
about for 2 bucks.  Pretty much, when you pick your team, the app shows you
all radio stations carrying that game on both sides of the ball.  Unless
your team has an agreement not to stream outside of the area, this should do
the trick.  I'll find out for the next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
have such an arrangement.  I have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
Unless I'm just missing something.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


I'm sure there are other and probably better ways to do this, but what I
do is select the teams button at the top of the page. I can't always
swipe to this button, but I can find it either by swiping or exploring.

On the next page, unless I want to watch a Dolphins game, I double tap
the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. This brings up a picker
where I can select another team. Once I select the Bears, I just double
tap on the done button.

Since there aren't any games playing right now, I'm not sure what
happens next, but I'd look for the Game Center button and an AudioPass
button. Unless things have change, you can only use the Mobile App to
listen to currently streaming games. On the PC, you can listen to any
game that's been played that season, as well as the currently streaming
games.

On 08/10/2014 12:38 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

What I don't understand is, I some how stumbled on selecting my team.  I
have no clue what I did to get there because by that time I was so
frustrated with the app it wasn't even funny.  I'm with AT&T and what
I'd like to know is this.  From the NFL app how can I get the audio pass
to listen to the Chicago Bears games.  I'm tired of listening to the
game via text message through the bears app.  Listening that way sucks.
Who ever sends the texts sometimes gets excited and forgets to text the
next play or so.  Kind of makes one wanna throw the iPhone against the
wall! 
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now!  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.
Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/

There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on

the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
*From:* Nicki Keck 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:18 AM
*Subject:* RE: NFL Mobile

I had to reinstall the app as well and can’t select my favorite team
either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as
my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but
the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his
limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but if

Re: Text messages taken up storage on my iPhone when I don't have any help please

[Paul Henrichsen]

You should be able to double tap on saved messages then flick to the delete 
button.
Unfortunately, with 7.1.2, double tapping on music or messages or whatever, 
does nothing.
So, if you have 7.1.2, you are probably out of luck there.

On Aug 9, 2014, at 6:32 PM, Conrad Bennett  wrote:

> I do not have any text messages on my iPhone now but when I get to settings 
> general usage it still shows saved messages what can I do help please I do 
> not want to have to do a complete reset and lose everything is it a glitch in 
> iOS 7 if anybody else is having this problem let me know thanks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: NFL Mobile

[Brent Harding]

Around Wisconsin, I think they reduced the quality, at least over FM, for 
some reason. I first noticed it on the Brewer games, although it seems that 
Bob Ueker's voice artifacts less than the commercials or other people 
talking. For whatever reason, the guys on the Packers' post game revealed it 
more, and those games would've been on different stations. I wonder if they 
are starting to make the stream better than over the air so people buy it, 
or if they reduced the bit rate of what the stations get for some technical 
reason, or to reduce their cost in distributing it?
- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


I have used all Football Radio for a few years now. The quality of the
streaming has improved, I think partly due to the improvements in the
iPhone. You may find that not all stations given work, but I have always
found at least one station that would give me what I want.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile

Ok, this helps too.  I just got another app called All Football Radio for a
buck 99 cents.  The app seems to be totally accessible which I was concerned
about for 2 bucks.  Pretty much, when you pick your team, the app shows you
all radio stations carrying that game on both sides of the ball.  Unless
your team has an agreement not to stream outside of the area, this should do
the trick.  I'll find out for the next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
have such an arrangement.  I have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
Unless I'm just missing something.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


I'm sure there are other and probably better ways to do this, but what I
do is select the teams button at the top of the page. I can't always
swipe to this button, but I can find it either by swiping or exploring.

On the next page, unless I want to watch a Dolphins game, I double tap
the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. This brings up a picker
where I can select another team. Once I select the Bears, I just double
tap on the done button.

Since there aren't any games playing right now, I'm not sure what
happens next, but I'd look for the Game Center button and an AudioPass
button. Unless things have change, you can only use the Mobile App to
listen to currently streaming games. On the PC, you can listen to any
game that's been played that season, as well as the currently streaming
games.

On 08/10/2014 12:38 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

What I don't understand is, I some how stumbled on selecting my team.  I
have no clue what I did to get there because by that time I was so
frustrated with the app it wasn't even funny.  I'm with AT&T and what
I'd like to know is this.  From the NFL app how can I get the audio pass
to listen to the Chicago Bears games.  I'm tired of listening to the
game via text message through the bears app.  Listening that way sucks.
Who ever sends the texts sometimes gets excited and forgets to text the
next play or so.  Kind of makes one wanna throw the iPhone against the
wall! 
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now!  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.
Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/

There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on

the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
*From:* Nicki Keck 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:18 AM
*Subject:* RE: NFL Mobile

I had to reinstall the app as well and can’t select my favorite team
either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as
my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but
the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his
limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but if
someone 

Re: NFL Mobile

[Brent Harding]

That's what happens for Green Bay. They always seemed to either not even 
stream the game, or it went out sometimes near the end of the first quarter, 
sometimes close to half time, it kind of varried, but the main station here 
doesn't let that stream continue all the way in either event.


- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


   Unless they have relented, and probably not, the NFL really tried to
crack
down on stations streaming NFL games.  They want us to pay for the Field
Pass.  They may be willing to let some of the pre-season be streamed, but
I'll bet they get strict about the regular season.  I remember listening to
a stream of a game, and having the station cut it off in the middle of a
play, when they realized somebody was listening to it. Even the colleges are
cracking down now, so there may not be much of a future for apps such as all
football radio.

Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Paganelli" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


Ok, this helps too.  I just got another app called All Football Radio for a
buck 99 cents.  The app seems to be totally accessible which I was concerned
about for 2 bucks.  Pretty much, when you pick your team, the app shows you
all radio stations carrying that game on both sides of the ball.  Unless
your team has an agreement not to stream outside of the area, this should do
the trick.  I'll find out for the next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears
have such an arrangement.  I have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio pass.
Unless I'm just missing something.


Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2014!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile


I'm sure there are other and probably better ways to do this, but what I
do is select the teams button at the top of the page. I can't always
swipe to this button, but I can find it either by swiping or exploring.

On the next page, unless I want to watch a Dolphins game, I double tap
the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. This brings up a picker
where I can select another team. Once I select the Bears, I just double
tap on the done button.

Since there aren't any games playing right now, I'm not sure what
happens next, but I'd look for the Game Center button and an AudioPass
button. Unless things have change, you can only use the Mobile App to
listen to currently streaming games. On the PC, you can listen to any
game that's been played that season, as well as the currently streaming
games.

On 08/10/2014 12:38 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

What I don't understand is, I some how stumbled on selecting my team.  I
have no clue what I did to get there because by that time I was so
frustrated with the app it wasn't even funny.  I'm with AT&T and what
I'd like to know is this.  From the NFL app how can I get the audio pass
to listen to the Chicago Bears games.  I'm tired of listening to the
game via text message through the bears app.  Listening that way sucks.
Who ever sends the texts sometimes gets excited and forgets to text the
next play or so.  Kind of makes one wanna throw the iPhone against the
wall! 
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now!  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.
Please click on:
HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/

There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
*From:* Nicki Keck 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, August 09, 2014 11:18 AM
*Subject:* RE: NFL Mobile

I had to reinstall the app as well and can’t select my favorite team
either.  I have the exact same problem.  It selected the jaguars as
my favorite team.  The jaguars!  Gese  I really want the Eagles, but
the least it could have done is select the bucs, not the jaguars.
Makes no logical sense.  I planned on having my husband with his
limited sight try to see if he could select it for me later, but if
someone has a better way, I’d be very 

Re: Dumb iBooks question

[Teresa Cochran]

That doesn't usually happen under normal circumstances. You might try removing 
the app from your app switcher, and if that doesn't work, reboot your device. 
Are you reading a pdf or an epub file? I find that pdfs are a little 
unpredictable in iBooks when it comes to scrolling text.

HtH,
Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Bill Holton  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I am using the two finger down gesture to start continuous reading, but with 
> page changes I seem to be missing large swatches of text.  Enlightenment 
> appreciated.
> Bill
>  
>  
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Re: Light indicator app

[Teresa Cochran]

It sounds like the Seeing Assistant app will do what you need, but I thought 
I'd mention Light Detector as well. It turns light into sound: the more ambient 
light you have, the more high-pitched the sound is. It may not be accurate for 
pinpointing specific light sources, but I find it handy for indicating how 
bright a room is. The link is below:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/light-detector/id420929143?mt=8

Hth,
Teresa

"We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:38 AM, Sandratomkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello the list,
> Can someone recommend an app that will be able to tell me if the LED light is 
> on or off?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: ringtones not playing

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Rebecca,

Mail alert sounds also have to be changed in Settings, Notifications, Mail.
This is the case because if you have more than one mail account setup you
can set different alert tones here.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Ilniski
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 6:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ringtones not playing

Hi all.  I used one of the apps that was discussed here a few weeks 
ago.  It was the 1500 ring tones free app.  i downloaded them and did 
file sharing in itunes and got the tones on my phone.  I wanted to 
change the new mail alert sound that I have so I went in to settings and 
selected the one I wanted.  The problem is that the old alert keeps 
playing.  Any suggestions on how to get the new alert to play even after 
it's been selected the old one still plays.

-- 
Rebecca and Guide Dog Zeb
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twitter: zebs_mom

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Skype or TalkAtOne

[SSEric]

Please, take your pick which way you think you can help.

I have had a Skype number for some time. It is about to expire. Using
Windows and JAWS, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to extend that
number; even how to price extending it. I am working off the Skype web site.

So, I signed up with the new TlkAtOne. I have only made a short call to my
home number, and voicemail quality wasn't too bad. Does anyone have
experience to compare/contrast the two services. It does appear TAT will be
more expensive for my purposes, which are primarily for calling chat lines
where you may be on line for a length of time per session. I am not even
sure there is any restriction on those calls. I was able to make one for a
few minutes.

Any suggestions will be most appreciated. As I said, my primary use is to
party lines using WIFI.

Many thanks!

Eric


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Re: No sounds on iPad 2

[Alex Hall]

Have you had her make sure the mute switch is off? It's right above the volume 
buttons; slide it up or down whichever way it will go, and see if that fixes 
things. If not, or if she has that switch set to lock orientation instead, open 
Settings > Sound and check the volume/mute status in there.
On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Wendy Alling  wrote:

> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hi all, my sister, who is cited, has lost her sounds on 
> her iPad too. Sounds include email sounds both sending and receiving and 
> clicks as she types such as sending messages can anyone help thank you Wendy
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No sounds on iPad 2

[Wendy Alling]

Sent from my iPhone hi all, my sister, who is cited, has lost her sounds on her 
iPad too. Sounds include email sounds both sending and receiving and clicks as 
she types such as sending messages can anyone help thank you Wendy

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ringtones not playing

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi all.  I used one of the apps that was discussed here a few weeks 
ago.  It was the 1500 ring tones free app.  i downloaded them and did 
file sharing in itunes and got the tones on my phone.  I wanted to 
change the new mail alert sound that I have so I went in to settings and 
selected the one I wanted.  The problem is that the old alert keeps 
playing.  Any suggestions on how to get the new alert to play even after 
it's been selected the old one still plays.


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Re: Light indicator app

[Seeing Assistant]

Hello,

You can try our application Seeing Assistant Home which has many functions, 
but also can detect light sources. 
You can not only check whether the light in the room is turned on, but also 
whether an electronic device with display is turned on, or even whether LED 
of some electrical device (e.g. kettle) is turned on or off.

There is link to the free version:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/seeing-assistant-home-lite/id625110066?mt=8

and link to tutorial:
http://seeingassistant.tt.com.pl/en/home/home-tutorial/#light

Please let me know if this works for you.

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On Monday, August 11, 2014 1:41:37 PM UTC+2, sandy wrote:
>
> Rob, 
> As far as I am aware, the torch that is  in the control Centre, 
> enables/disables the flashlight which is built into the phone. I am looking 
> for a camera app which can tell me if LEDs are on or off. 
>
> Thanks for the response though, 
> Sandy 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On 11 Aug 2014, at 12:21, "RobH." > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > In Control centre, doesn't the torch button tell you this? 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Sandratomkins" > 
> > To: > 
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:38 AM 
> > Subject: Light indicator app 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello the list, 
> > Can someone recommend an app that will be able to tell me if the LED 
> light 
> > is on or off? 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance, 
> > Sandy 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
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RE: NFL Mobile and other apps

[Nicki Keck]

I agree, Cheryl.  And you are absolutely right.  It is because of the NFL.
They are cutting off these stations as they find them.  As I said before, my
favorite team is the Eagles, and last time I tried all football radio, I was
not able to get any station to give me the Eagles broadcasts.  Sure, I could
possibly have listened to the opposing team's broadcast, but first of all,
that is no guarantee, and second, it was worth it to me to pay the money so
I could hear the broadcasters I really wanted to hear, in a reliable manner.
I don't have time in my life to sit there trying station after station and
then having them be cut off and doing the whole thing over again.
Especially since, though it is cheaper, you do still pay for the app you
need to use to access all these feeds.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 12:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL Mobile and other apps

I have paid for audiopass and the way to use this on a mobile device is via
NFL mobile. I have no reason or desire to have to wade through various
stations looking for a feed. Maybe this has changed, but it was my
understanding that part of what causes feeds not to be available on other
apps is that the NFL and/or other teams try to stop feeds from being
available for use by other apps; maybe my information is out-of-date and
this is no longer the case but I do know that when there was no other way to
listen on an i-device and I used these feeds, it was sometimes frustrating
looking for a working feed and they were sometimes then cut off in
mid-broadcast. I have no desire to use these other apps at this point though
I am glad they are available for those who want to or need to use them. But
if what started as an NFL mobile thread is going to now become a discussion
of other football apps, , could people at least maybe change the subject
line to reflect this?

Thank you.


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On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:

> I have used all Football Radio for a few years now. The quality of the
streaming has improved, I think partly due to the improvements in the
iPhone. You may find that not all stations given work, but I have always
found at least one station that would give me what I want.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 3:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
> 
> Ok, this helps too.  I just got another app called All Football Radio 
> for a buck 99 cents.  The app seems to be totally accessible which I 
> was concerned about for 2 bucks.  Pretty much, when you pick your 
> team, the app shows you all radio stations carrying that game on both 
> sides of the ball.  Unless your team has an agreement not to stream 
> outside of the area, this should do the trick.  I'll find out for the 
> next preseason game if the Chicago 'Bears have such an arrangement.  I
have a sneaking suspicion though that they do.
> I just can't find anywhere on the NFL Mobile app where I can get audio
pass.
> Unless I'm just missing something.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2014!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: NFL Mobile
> 
> 
> I'm sure there are other and probably better ways to do this, but what 
> I do is select the teams button at the top of the page. I can't always 
> swipe to this button, but I can find it either by swiping or exploring.
> 
> On the next page, unless I want to watch a Dolphins game, I double tap 
> the unlabeled button at the top of the screen. This brings up a picker 
> where I can select another team. Once I select the Bears, I just 
> double tap on the done button.
> 
> Since there aren't any games playing right now, I'm not sure what 
> happens next, but I'd look for the Game Center button and an AudioPass 
> button. Unless things have change, you can only use the Mobile App to 
> listen to currently streaming games. On the PC, you can listen to a

Re: Microsoft OneDrive now offering 1 Terrabyte of storage with Office 365 Home subscription

[Kyle]

Another cool thing about this is that, if you are interested, you can also get 
a free copy of Windoweyes since you’ll have the office365 subscription. That’s 
quite a deal for $99 per year.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Microsoft OneDrive now offering 1 Terrabyte of storage with Office 365 
Home subscription

Hello Listers,

 

I know the topic of cloud/online storage often comes up on the list. Since I 
haven’t seen anybody else post about this, I thought I let everybody know that 
Microsoft is now offering a whopping 1 Tb of storage with a Office 365 Home 
subscription which costs $99 per year.

The subscription also entitles you to download and install a full version of 
Office 2013 on up to 5 computers and if you set up accounts for up to 5 family 
members under that subscription each person actually gets 1 Tb of storage for a 
total of 5 Tb of storage.

 

The OneDrive app on the iPhone is very accessible and offers many of the same 
features as Dropbox does including camera roll backup, music and video file 
playback etc.

 

Even spending $99 a year (just $8.25 a month) for 1 Tb of storage is pretty 
attractive, but you also get full use of Office 2013 on up to 5 devices.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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braille pen and braille pen 12

[Mich Verrier]

hello. a few months ago I inquired about this Braille pen and was told that 
it was no longer being made but that the Braille pen 12 was still being made 
and that they were waiting for apple to in prove something at there end 
where Braille is concerned. maybe people who have used this displays' for 
input would like to chime in? I also found out that at least hear in Canada 
in Ontario where I am from that this is not something covered under the adp 
or assistive devices program. so if you want to get one you will have to 
save up the funds. at least for those who live in Ontario at least. I have 
no idea if other places cover this. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "SSEric" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I have not seen this, but I would suggest you check out the Braille Pen
Slim. This is a Braille keys keyboard.

I have been using the BP12 recently, and while the display is smaller than I
want, it has been a delight using the Braille for input. I am a very
proficient typist and had been very good Braillist, too, but not used
Braille over the past 25 years or so; not much, anyway. It was like riding a
bicycle. I think I picked up the keyboard much faster than reading.

I imagine this BP Slim is smaller than any QWERTY keyboard. It is a bit
pricy at around $400, but I do suggest it as a strong alternative for those
looking for an external input device.

Eric


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mich Verrier
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

i found that the keys on this bt keybord were to small for my fingers to
type compteribley. right now i am typing on my laptop and like the keys that

i am typing on. i would like to find a keybord that i could use to type on
that would have bigger sise keys on it but would be still small in size. i
also have no problum typing on the phone how ever i mainley use dictation
since it is easier and plus i find for me at least that i am slower in
typing on the phone then say on a keybord. i have m braille but never got
the hang of typing on it. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "RobH!" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I tired of bt keyboards as yet another gadget, took up mBraille as I could
type fluently on that and transfer my text when done.

That supports swedish for sure.
Ok, fairly sure.


Sez, Me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I wonder if this RII mini keyboard supports swedish keyboard layout since it
is different from the american/english one? Does the documentation or web
site if any say anything about that? It could be interesting to know
although i'm actually against using keyboards other than the on-screen one,
it's yet another clumsy device to carry with me. At least my policy is to
thoroughly learn and use the on-screen keyboard before getting an external
one, otherwise you risk to get smoked so to speak if the battery of the
keyboard runs out in the middle of nowhere. Anyways this is beside the
point.
/Krister


11 aug 2014 kl. 07:28 skrev M. Taylor :

Hello Everyone,

You know, it's only after having the RII mini Bluetooth keyboard for the
past 48 hours or so that I began to realize how much I have missed having
a
mobile hardware keyboard with which to compose SMS messages while on the
move in areas where voice dictation is not an option.

Today, I was in a vehicle, in stop-and-go traffic when I needed to reply
to
a text message.  It was nice not having my typing accuracy severely
diminished by the varying speeds of the car, as would be the case when
entering text via the on-screen keyboard.

Of course, I do have a Braille display/keyboard but (1) the model I have,
while portable, does require significantly more space and (2) it is so
expensive, I hate taking it out and about the city unless absolutely
necessary.

Earlier today I stopped by one of those cell phone case kiosk that one can
find in shopping malls, and purchased a folio style iPhone case for the
RII
mini Bluetooth keyboard.  I think I paid about $12.  Just a little
protection for the keyboard and I find that it makes the keyboard even
more
convenient and comfortable to hold while typing--especially when I'm
walking.

This is the fourth Bluetooth keyboard I've purchased for use with my
iPHone
but the first and only one that is hitting on all cylinders, so to speak
(smile).

Mark

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Dumb iBooks question

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

I am using the two finger down gesture to start continuous reading, but with
page changes I seem to be missing large swatches of text.  Enlightenment
appreciated.

Bill

 

 

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RE: My iPad shuts off while I am using it

[Rose Combs]

I have found that my battery life is horrible if I have say 10 apps open and
I am using IOS 7.  I generally close them all down each morning before I
leave for work, yesterday I did not even think of it as I had not really
used the phone much on Saturday and by 11 in the morning I was at 70%
received two messages, replied to one of them with only one word.  No phone
calls,.  When I got home I looked and every store app I have was open along
with Bard and a couple of others.  I closed them all out, and hopefully
today it won't plummet so much.  I am still on my 4S, contract is up but . 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My iPad shuts off while I am using it

 

I don't think apps are your problem. In iOS7 especially, Apple manages
everything so you never need to close apps manually unless you need to
restart a specific app. Generally, you can leave your App Switcher alone and
things will work fine. I never clear out apps, unless I know one is going to
suck down battery and I don't need it, and my iPhone never locks on me. Try
the restart and let us know if that fixes the problem.

On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Gmail  wrote:





Have you tried resetting it yet? If I put your iPad is not obeying the
auto-lock setting is quite strange, and might be fixed by a reset. This
won't harm any of your apps or app data, by the way. Having too many apps
open shouldn't make your iPad just lock like that.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:18 AM, Michelle Bernstein
 wrote:

I was wondering if this was a common occurrence and if there were other
things besides taking off the auto lock and checking the battery level that
I can do to hopefully avert this situation.  The suggestion to make sure
that not too many apps are running at the same time seems helpful.  From
checking various other sites, it seems that this sometimes happens with the
iphone and ipad and since my ipad is very recently purchased, it does not
seem to be enough of a defect to exchange the unit.  Michelle

On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Again, try a restart by holding the home and power buttons at the same time
for ten seconds. If you have enough vision to see it, you are just waiting
until the iPad starts to boot (when the Apple logo appears); once that
happens, release the two buttons.

On Aug 10, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Michelle Bernstein
 wrote:





It locks and does not completely shut off and I can reopen it, but it is
annoying.  My battery level is pretty high.  It just happened this morning
and my battery level is 82 percent.  Michelle

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RE: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

[SSEric]

I have not seen this, but I would suggest you check out the Braille Pen
Slim. This is a Braille keys keyboard.

I have been using the BP12 recently, and while the display is smaller than I
want, it has been a delight using the Braille for input. I am a very
proficient typist and had been very good Braillist, too, but not used
Braille over the past 25 years or so; not much, anyway. It was like riding a
bicycle. I think I picked up the keyboard much faster than reading.

I imagine this BP Slim is smaller than any QWERTY keyboard. It is a bit
pricy at around $400, but I do suggest it as a strong alternative for those
looking for an external input device.

Eric


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mich Verrier
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 6:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

i found that the keys on this bt keybord were to small for my fingers to 
type compteribley. right now i am typing on my laptop and like the keys that

i am typing on. i would like to find a keybord that i could use to type on 
that would have bigger sise keys on it but would be still small in size. i 
also have no problum typing on the phone how ever i mainley use dictation 
since it is easier and plus i find for me at least that i am slower in 
typing on the phone then say on a keybord. i have m braille but never got 
the hang of typing on it. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "RobH!" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I tired of bt keyboards as yet another gadget, took up mBraille as I could
type fluently on that and transfer my text when done.

That supports swedish for sure.
Ok, fairly sure.


Sez, Me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I wonder if this RII mini keyboard supports swedish keyboard layout since it
is different from the american/english one? Does the documentation or web
site if any say anything about that? It could be interesting to know
although i'm actually against using keyboards other than the on-screen one,
it's yet another clumsy device to carry with me. At least my policy is to
thoroughly learn and use the on-screen keyboard before getting an external
one, otherwise you risk to get smoked so to speak if the battery of the
keyboard runs out in the middle of nowhere. Anyways this is beside the
point.
/Krister

> 11 aug 2014 kl. 07:28 skrev M. Taylor :
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> You know, it's only after having the RII mini Bluetooth keyboard for the
> past 48 hours or so that I began to realize how much I have missed having
> a
> mobile hardware keyboard with which to compose SMS messages while on the
> move in areas where voice dictation is not an option.
>
> Today, I was in a vehicle, in stop-and-go traffic when I needed to reply
> to
> a text message.  It was nice not having my typing accuracy severely
> diminished by the varying speeds of the car, as would be the case when
> entering text via the on-screen keyboard.
>
> Of course, I do have a Braille display/keyboard but (1) the model I have,
> while portable, does require significantly more space and (2) it is so
> expensive, I hate taking it out and about the city unless absolutely
> necessary.
>
> Earlier today I stopped by one of those cell phone case kiosk that one can
> find in shopping malls, and purchased a folio style iPhone case for the
> RII
> mini Bluetooth keyboard.  I think I paid about $12.  Just a little
> protection for the keyboard and I find that it makes the keyboard even
> more
> convenient and comfortable to hold while typing--especially when I'm
> walking.
>
> This is the fourth Bluetooth keyboard I've purchased for use with my
> iPHone
> but the first and only one that is hitting on all cylinders, so to speak
> (smile).
>
> Mark
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Re: Light indicator app

[Sandratomkins]

Rob,
As far as I am aware, the torch that is  in the control Centre, 
enables/disables the flashlight which is built into the phone. I am looking for 
a camera app which can tell me if LEDs are on or off.

Thanks for the response though,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11 Aug 2014, at 12:21, "RobH."  wrote:
> 
> In Control centre, doesn't the torch button tell you this?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sandratomkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:38 AM
> Subject: Light indicator app
> 
> 
> Hello the list,
> Can someone recommend an app that will be able to tell me if the LED light 
> is on or off?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Sandy
> 
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Re: Light indicator app

[RobH.]

In Control centre, doesn't the torch button tell you this?
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandratomkins" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:38 AM
Subject: Light indicator app


Hello the list,
Can someone recommend an app that will be able to tell me if the LED light 
is on or off?

Thanks in advance,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

[Flor Lynch]

Hi,
You might like to try Fleksy VO (the VO being for voiceOver), free, from 
the App Store. It mimics most of the keys of a QWERTY keyboard on the 
phone screen, and produces click sounds in responds to key presses. then 
there are More... tabs, with Numbers, letters, Symbols, etc. it's fast. 
Also has a dictionary or 'predictive text' type feature.


- Original Message - 
From: "Mich Verrier" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


i found that the keys on this bt keybord were to small for my fingers to
type compteribley. right now i am typing on my laptop and like the keys 
that
i am typing on. i would like to find a keybord that i could use to type 
on
that would have bigger sise keys on it but would be still small in size. 
i
also have no problum typing on the phone how ever i mainley use 
dictation

since it is easier and plus i find for me at least that i am slower in
typing on the phone then say on a keybord. i have m braille but never 
got

the hang of typing on it. from Mich.
- Original Message - 

From: "RobH!" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I tired of bt keyboards as yet another gadget, took up mBraille as I 
could

type fluently on that and transfer my text when done.

That supports swedish for sure.
Ok, fairly sure.


Sez, Me.
- Original Message - 

From: "Krister Ekstrom" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I wonder if this RII mini keyboard supports swedish keyboard layout 
since it
is different from the american/english one? Does the documentation or 
web

site if any say anything about that? It could be interesting to know
although i'm actually against using keyboards other than the on-screen 
one,
it's yet another clumsy device to carry with me. At least my policy is 
to
thoroughly learn and use the on-screen keyboard before getting an 
external

one, otherwise you risk to get smoked so to speak if the battery of the
keyboard runs out in the middle of nowhere. Anyways this is beside the
point.
/Krister


11 aug 2014 kl. 07:28 skrev M. Taylor :

Hello Everyone,

You know, it's only after having the RII mini Bluetooth keyboard for 
the
past 48 hours or so that I began to realize how much I have missed 
having

a
mobile hardware keyboard with which to compose SMS messages while on 
the

move in areas where voice dictation is not an option.

Today, I was in a vehicle, in stop-and-go traffic when I needed to 
reply

to
a text message.  It was nice not having my typing accuracy severely
diminished by the varying speeds of the car, as would be the case when
entering text via the on-screen keyboard.

Of course, I do have a Braille display/keyboard but (1) the model I 
have,

while portable, does require significantly more space and (2) it is so
expensive, I hate taking it out and about the city unless absolutely
necessary.

Earlier today I stopped by one of those cell phone case kiosk that one 
can
find in shopping malls, and purchased a folio style iPhone case for 
the

RII
mini Bluetooth keyboard.  I think I paid about $12.  Just a little
protection for the keyboard and I find that it makes the keyboard even
more
convenient and comfortable to hold while typing--especially when I'm
walking.

This is the fourth Bluetooth keyboard I've purchased for use with my
iPHone
but the first and only one that is hitting on all cylinders, so to 
speak

(smile).

Mark

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Light indicator app

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Hello the list,
Can someone recommend an app that will be able to tell me if the LED light is 
on or off?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

[Mich Verrier]

i found that the keys on this bt keybord were to small for my fingers to 
type compteribley. right now i am typing on my laptop and like the keys that 
i am typing on. i would like to find a keybord that i could use to type on 
that would have bigger sise keys on it but would be still small in size. i 
also have no problum typing on the phone how ever i mainley use dictation 
since it is easier and plus i find for me at least that i am slower in 
typing on the phone then say on a keybord. i have m braille but never got 
the hang of typing on it. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: "RobH!" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I tired of bt keyboards as yet another gadget, took up mBraille as I could
type fluently on that and transfer my text when done.

That supports swedish for sure.
Ok, fairly sure.


Sez, Me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I wonder if this RII mini keyboard supports swedish keyboard layout since it
is different from the american/english one? Does the documentation or web
site if any say anything about that? It could be interesting to know
although i'm actually against using keyboards other than the on-screen one,
it's yet another clumsy device to carry with me. At least my policy is to
thoroughly learn and use the on-screen keyboard before getting an external
one, otherwise you risk to get smoked so to speak if the battery of the
keyboard runs out in the middle of nowhere. Anyways this is beside the
point.
/Krister


11 aug 2014 kl. 07:28 skrev M. Taylor :

Hello Everyone,

You know, it's only after having the RII mini Bluetooth keyboard for the
past 48 hours or so that I began to realize how much I have missed having
a
mobile hardware keyboard with which to compose SMS messages while on the
move in areas where voice dictation is not an option.

Today, I was in a vehicle, in stop-and-go traffic when I needed to reply
to
a text message.  It was nice not having my typing accuracy severely
diminished by the varying speeds of the car, as would be the case when
entering text via the on-screen keyboard.

Of course, I do have a Braille display/keyboard but (1) the model I have,
while portable, does require significantly more space and (2) it is so
expensive, I hate taking it out and about the city unless absolutely
necessary.

Earlier today I stopped by one of those cell phone case kiosk that one can
find in shopping malls, and purchased a folio style iPhone case for the
RII
mini Bluetooth keyboard.  I think I paid about $12.  Just a little
protection for the keyboard and I find that it makes the keyboard even
more
convenient and comfortable to hold while typing--especially when I'm
walking.

This is the fourth Bluetooth keyboard I've purchased for use with my
iPHone
but the first and only one that is hitting on all cylinders, so to speak
(smile).

Mark

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Has anyone had experience with Jabra Rox Wireless bluetooth headphones?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

> 
> If the headphones do not work for you, you could try the Afterfshokz Bluez 
> which are designed for people who have hearing aids as the pads sit on your 
> cheeks rather than your ears as the sound is conducted through your cheeks. 
> It takes a while to get use to.
> 
> Best of luck with what you have now.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 11 Aug 2014, at 01:39 am, Teresa Christian  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi gang,
>> 
>> I'll put the bottom line on the first line, lol.
>> First problem-  Has anyone had experience with the Jabra Rox
>> headphones? details of the problem are below.
>> Second question; how do you put the phone icon back on the screen?
>> this problem is due to the first problem.
>> 
>> 
>> A week ago I went to the Apple store and purchased a set of Jabra Rox
>> Wireless bluetooth headphones. They have fabulous sound for music and
>> the way they are physically is great. They are like large earbuds. The
>> part that sits in your ear bowl is big enough that they stay in my
>> ears very well. I have a hard time because I have little ears and also
>> ware hearing aids. I tried the Plantronics bluetooth voyager both the
>> legacy and the pro. I love what they do but they just don't fit my
>> ears so have continued looking and found these Jabras.
>> 
>> Briefly here is what they look like. just a cable going between the
>> two ear pieces with an inline remote with mike. This seems to work
>> very well with my small ears and hearing aid situation. The cable goes
>> behind your neck. I like the flexability of this rather than ridgid
>> ones. Also the backs of the ear parts stick together magnetically and
>> this also starts and stops some functions. So when they are not in
>> your ears they stick together on your chest like a neckless. Another
>> slick thing is that the back of one of the ear bud piece pulls away
>> and that is where the charger cable plugs in.
>> 
>> Here is the problem and this is a big one. They are not very
>> responsive when it comes to moving my finger around on the iPhone
>> touch screen. Because of this dificulty I in advertantly removed the
>> phone icon from the bottom line of my phone.
>> 
>> So the up shot is I have two questions.
>> Has anyone had experience with this and is there a solution or will I
>> have to return these and keep looking? I love these except for this
>> one problem.
>> 
>> Second: how do I put the phone icon back on to my screen?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help! ☺
>> 
>> Teresa, headset hunter
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> "It is action, not mere intention, that leaves our mark on the day.
>> Decision without discipline is choice without commitment - it is
>> wishful thinking."
>> by Brendon Burchard, author of The Charge.
>> 
>> Live your life by design and not by chance
>> 
>> Challenge is a dragon with a gift in its mouth.
>> Tame the dragon and the gift is yours.
>> 
>> Create yourself a fabulous day! ☺
>> 
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Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

[RobH!]

I tired of bt keyboards as yet another gadget, took up mBraille as I could 
type fluently on that and transfer my text when done.

That supports swedish for sure.
Ok, fairly sure.


Sez, Me.
- Original Message - 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard


I wonder if this RII mini keyboard supports swedish keyboard layout since it 
is different from the american/english one? Does the documentation or web 
site if any say anything about that? It could be interesting to know 
although i'm actually against using keyboards other than the on-screen one, 
it's yet another clumsy device to carry with me. At least my policy is to 
thoroughly learn and use the on-screen keyboard before getting an external 
one, otherwise you risk to get smoked so to speak if the battery of the 
keyboard runs out in the middle of nowhere. Anyways this is beside the 
point.
/Krister

> 11 aug 2014 kl. 07:28 skrev M. Taylor :
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> You know, it's only after having the RII mini Bluetooth keyboard for the
> past 48 hours or so that I began to realize how much I have missed having 
> a
> mobile hardware keyboard with which to compose SMS messages while on the
> move in areas where voice dictation is not an option.
>
> Today, I was in a vehicle, in stop-and-go traffic when I needed to reply 
> to
> a text message.  It was nice not having my typing accuracy severely
> diminished by the varying speeds of the car, as would be the case when
> entering text via the on-screen keyboard.
>
> Of course, I do have a Braille display/keyboard but (1) the model I have,
> while portable, does require significantly more space and (2) it is so
> expensive, I hate taking it out and about the city unless absolutely
> necessary.
>
> Earlier today I stopped by one of those cell phone case kiosk that one can
> find in shopping malls, and purchased a folio style iPhone case for the 
> RII
> mini Bluetooth keyboard.  I think I paid about $12.  Just a little
> protection for the keyboard and I find that it makes the keyboard even 
> more
> convenient and comfortable to hold while typing--especially when I'm
> walking.
>
> This is the fourth Bluetooth keyboard I've purchased for use with my 
> iPHone
> but the first and only one that is hitting on all cylinders, so to speak
> (smile).
>
> Mark
>
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Re: My First 48 Hours with the RII Mini Bluetooth Keyboard

[Krister Ekstrom]

I wonder if this RII mini keyboard supports swedish keyboard layout since it is 
different from the american/english one? Does the documentation or web site if 
any say anything about that? It could be interesting to know although i'm 
actually against using keyboards other than the on-screen one, it's yet another 
clumsy device to carry with me. At least my policy is to thoroughly learn and 
use the on-screen keyboard before getting an external one, otherwise you risk 
to get smoked so to speak if the battery of the keyboard runs out in the middle 
of nowhere. Anyways this is beside the point.
/Krister

> 11 aug 2014 kl. 07:28 skrev M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> You know, it's only after having the RII mini Bluetooth keyboard for the
> past 48 hours or so that I began to realize how much I have missed having a
> mobile hardware keyboard with which to compose SMS messages while on the
> move in areas where voice dictation is not an option.  
> 
> Today, I was in a vehicle, in stop-and-go traffic when I needed to reply to
> a text message.  It was nice not having my typing accuracy severely
> diminished by the varying speeds of the car, as would be the case when
> entering text via the on-screen keyboard.
> 
> Of course, I do have a Braille display/keyboard but (1) the model I have,
> while portable, does require significantly more space and (2) it is so
> expensive, I hate taking it out and about the city unless absolutely
> necessary. 
> 
> Earlier today I stopped by one of those cell phone case kiosk that one can
> find in shopping malls, and purchased a folio style iPhone case for the RII
> mini Bluetooth keyboard.  I think I paid about $12.  Just a little
> protection for the keyboard and I find that it makes the keyboard even more
> convenient and comfortable to hold while typing--especially when I'm
> walking.
> 
> This is the fourth Bluetooth keyboard I've purchased for use with my iPHone
> but the first and only one that is hitting on all cylinders, so to speak
> (smile).
> 
> Mark
> 
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