Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
I use the NS2 myself.  I just don't see why one would pay more for a
Tranzeo - that was my question.

>If you use 5/10 MHZ channels I highly recommend Ubiquity cards.  Still
>seeing issues with the r52 cards.  There are forum posts which say there are
>quite a few with these issues as well.  Seen the issues as recent as a week
>ago.  Not tried then yet with the R52N cards. Its on the list to test.

The R*N cards do *NOT* support 5/10mhz channels.  Mikrotik's "own"
card doesn't support it.  It looks like it does in the GUI and it
doesn't complain, but the card is incapable of it.  Boy was I pissed.
Wasted 2 hours switching out radios several times in a ptp link 45
minutes away.

Josh Luthman
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2010/4/1 Justin Wilson :
>    Have several POPs with Ubiquity on them.   Only thing I have found so
> far are:
>
>    1.Web Interface seems flaky at times.  Several clients simply stop
> responding to web requests to login to the interface. Unit works fine so
> it’s low on the list.
>    2.If you use 5/10 MHZ channels I highly recommend Ubiquity cards.  Still
> seeing issues with the r52 cards.  There are forum posts which say there are
> quite a few with these issues as well.  Seen the issues as recent as a week
> ago.  Not tried then yet with the R52N cards. Its on the list to test.
>    3.Acts real weird with Windows DHCP server and the UBNT as a DHCP
> client.  Had to do some workarounds to make this work.
>
>    Justin
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net/blog
> Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
>
>
>
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:11:38 -0400
> To: WISPA General List 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
> Those of you using Tranzeo, have you tried Ubiquiti products?
> Hopefully the Nanostation2/5.
>
> What do you think about the differences in them (obviously besides the
> price!)
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
>> I'm buying 5packs of the slim lines for $90 per CPE.
>>
>> I have bought them as low as $85 when in 20 packs.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:43 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>>
>> What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>>> Never had any water issues. ?Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
>>> those are still out there. ?Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
>>> issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers. ?Then started seeing the
>>> issues with Cisco switches. ?Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them
>> as
>>> a DNS resolver.
>>> --
>>> Justin Wilson 
>>> http://www.mtin.net
>>> http://www.metrospan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
Have several POPs with Ubiquity on them.   Only thing I have found so
far are:

1.Web Interface seems flaky at times.  Several clients simply stop
responding to web requests to login to the interface. Unit works fine so
it’s low on the list.
2.If you use 5/10 MHZ channels I highly recommend Ubiquity cards.  Still
seeing issues with the r52 cards.  There are forum posts which say there are
quite a few with these issues as well.  Seen the issues as recent as a week
ago.  Not tried then yet with the R52N cards. Its on the list to test.
3.Acts real weird with Windows DHCP server and the UBNT as a DHCP
client.  Had to do some workarounds to make this work.

Justin
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From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:11:38 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

Those of you using Tranzeo, have you tried Ubiquiti products?
Hopefully the Nanostation2/5.

What do you think about the differences in them (obviously besides the
price!)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> I'm buying 5packs of the slim lines for $90 per CPE.
>
> I have bought them as low as $85 when in 20 packs.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:43 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
> What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> Never had any water issues. ?Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
>> those are still out there. ?Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
>> issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers. ?Then started seeing the
>> issues with Cisco switches. ?Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them
> as
>> a DNS resolver.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net
>> http://www.metrospan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Those of you using Tranzeo, have you tried Ubiquiti products?
Hopefully the Nanostation2/5.

What do you think about the differences in them (obviously besides the price!)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  wrote:
> I'm buying 5packs of the slim lines for $90 per CPE.
>
> I have bought them as low as $85 when in 20 packs.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:43 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
> What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>> Never had any water issues.  Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
>> those are still out there.  Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
>> issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers.  Then started seeing the
>> issues with Cisco switches.  Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them
> as
>> a DNS resolver.
>> --
>> Justin Wilson 
>> http://www.mtin.net
>> http://www.metrospan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I'm buying 5packs of the slim lines for $90 per CPE.

I have bought them as low as $85 when in 20 packs.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Never had any water issues.  Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
> those are still out there.  Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
> issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers.  Then started seeing the
> issues with Cisco switches.  Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them
as
> a DNS resolver.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net
> http://www.metrospan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
Seen 20 packet price around the $150 range for 2.4 19DBI.  Slimlines
below $100.
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From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 00:43:20 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units?

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

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continue that counts.”
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Never had any water issues. ?Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
> those are still out there. ?Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
> issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers. ?Then started seeing the
> issues with Cisco switches. ?Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them as
> a DNS resolver.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net
> http://www.metrospan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
What is the price range of the Tranzeo CPE type units?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

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continue that counts.”
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
> Never had any water issues.  Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
> those are still out there.  Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
> issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers.  Then started seeing the
> issues with Cisco switches.  Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them as
> a DNS resolver.
> --
> Justin Wilson 
> http://www.mtin.net
> http://www.metrospan.net
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
Never had any water issues.  Had around 1100 deployed at one time. Most of
those are still out there.  Pretty solid until we started seeing ethernet
issues with the backhauls and Mikrotik routers.  Then started seeing the
issues with Cisco switches.  Great for CPE as long as you don¹t use them as
a DNS resolver.
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have 350+ Tranzeo CPE's in the field. Love em, The AP's are good too,
pretty much set and forget, but I use MT for AP's because I love MT's
goodies. But for a non-tech savy person I would not hesitate to advise them
to deploy a Tranzeo AP.

A lot of people bash Tranzeo but actually the company is doing really well.
I think there are many more WISPS out there using them with great success
and not reporting back to any lists. My network as 99% Tranzeo CPE's and I'm
glad I made the decision to uniformly deploy them back in 2005. I've seen
other wisps deploy a mix of CPE's and it never turns out good, just makes a
mess.

I can go to any client and swap a radio within 5 minutes using only a nut
driver. Plus I've been thinking about 3.65 and I am very glad to hear of the
Aperto merger. This is def something I want to deploy someday and I wanted
to stay with Tranzeo for CPE and so now I'll be able to do that. Just
imagine being able to swap out the customer's old CPE200-15 radio with a new
WIMAX radio within 5 minutes using only a nut driver. I can because I have
uniformly deployed the same CPE for all my clients. 

Oh and BTW, In 5 years have only had 1 water leak issue with the boot cover,
and I hand tighten them as well.


Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just don't
over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work
great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those
were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the
boot messing with the seal. 

However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE
THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If all is
fine there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a inside
address if you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. Remember
"Friends don't let friends bridge networks"

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher
speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we
now have great signal.  :-)

The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.

It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line",
I can still access the Radio.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

-Gary-






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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Chuck,

You hope we don't *think* you're nuts?!

 ;-)

Chuck

On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Chuck Profito wrote:

> Forbes, 
> Hope the rest of the list doesn't think I'm nuts:
> Do you see any large, hi gain CB or Ham beam antennas or Truckers from the
> southern area parked or loading nearby?
> Within say 1/4 mile of B tower?  The new mobile 70KW class C Linear's are
> about as dirty as they come. Some of those 
> drivers from Mexico and AZ are talking direct, no skip, 500 miles on the
> lower vertical channels.  That much bleed over 
> in radiated power may trip ground on your switch and or MT boards. It could
> come right thru your tower grounding, let alone your antennas and CAt5.
> Could you try batteries there? Say a smart charger thru a UPS, then to
> batteries.   i.e. no common ground. 
> 
> Chuck Profito
> 
> 
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> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:06 AM
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> Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?
> 
> We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
> It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
> other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
> Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
> site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
> managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.
> 
> What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
> Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
> it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
> C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
> but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
> feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
> will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
> for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
> communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
> and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
> residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
> not routed network.
> 
> The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
> spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
> during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
> user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
> don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
> between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
> run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
> people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
> going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
> doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Chuck Profito
Forbes, 
Hope the rest of the list doesn't think I'm nuts:
Do you see any large, hi gain CB or Ham beam antennas or Truckers from the
southern area parked or loading nearby?
Within say 1/4 mile of B tower?  The new mobile 70KW class C Linear's are
about as dirty as they come. Some of those 
drivers from Mexico and AZ are talking direct, no skip, 500 miles on the
lower vertical channels.  That much bleed over 
in radiated power may trip ground on your switch and or MT boards. It could
come right thru your tower grounding, let alone your antennas and CAt5.
Could you try batteries there? Say a smart charger thru a UPS, then to
batteries.   i.e. no common ground. 

Chuck Profito


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.

What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
not routed network.

The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Forbes




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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Blair Davis




Their hardware was great, just had to wait for LightSpeed to re-write
the drivers!!

Mike Hammett wrote:

  ATI couldn't build a quality driver to save their life, so I have refused to 
purchase any ATI based motherboard or video card.  NVidia only.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12 PM
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

  
  
Really?  I hadn't heard that before.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke  
wrote:


  Hello,

   But AMD was.  LOL



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?

I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  
wrote:
  
  
Wow

Was Aperto in financial trouble?

This is like YDI buying Proxim

Or Ubiquity buying Motorola

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:



  Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
nice
products for WISPs.

http://bit.ly/bX4HTc

Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
solution

PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
--
BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
premier
manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
the
terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
subsidiary of
Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.

The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
becomes a
complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
WiMax and
LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
$8.3
million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.

"Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
while
still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
service
providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
now in
trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
fruit within
a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."

"The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
Managing
Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."

Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
combined
technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
provide.

"Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
product
breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
and
channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global
basis,"said
Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at
Aperto
Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,
expanding
our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."

"This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services
in
Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
(TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication
infrastructure
provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development
agreement
with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."

Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through
issuances of
common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the
required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration
amount, as
a

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well, I fully agree that there was a time in history when ATI conflicted 
with every other thing, and Nvidia just worked.
But in today's world, I'm finding Nvidia to be almost just as bad.(And I'm a 
Nvidia fan)  Now, my ATI cards seem to just work.
I'm not talking about gaming compatibilty. I'm talking about the whole PC 
crashing or wierd video problems, just using the operating system with 
various MBs.
Its a vicious circle, this PC world we live in..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto


ATI couldn't build a quality driver to save their life, so I have refused to
purchase any ATI based motherboard or video card.  NVidia only.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12 PM
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

> Really?  I hadn't heard that before.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke 
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>But AMD was.  LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
>>
>> Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?
>>
>> I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>> Wow
>>>
>>> Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>>>
>>> This is like YDI buying Proxim
>>>
>>> Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>>>
>>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>>>
 Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
 nice
 products for WISPs.

 http://bit.ly/bX4HTc

 Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
 Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
 solution

 PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
 --
 BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
 premier
 manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
 announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
 Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
 the
 terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
 conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
 subsidiary of
 Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
 wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.

 The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
 becomes a
 complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
 WiMax and
 LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
 $8.3
 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.

 "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
 complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
 while
 still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
 service
 providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
 established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
 now in
 trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
 fruit within
 a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."

 "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
 providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
 Managing
 Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
 broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."

 Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
 combined
 technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
 provide.

 "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
 product
 breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
 and
 channels will significantly benefit our customers 

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
  last year we had problems in passing traffic and we were instructed by 
a fellow WISP to do it this way.  Its worked for about 8 months with no 
problem until this started happening.  Perhaps we should make them all 
the same, we're considering that as one of the fixes.

Forbes

On 3/31/2010 12:37 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> Why aren't you using WDS on the site B-C link?
>
> Greg
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info:
>>
>> Site A
>> RB532A board
>> AR5212 chip
>> v3.30 OS
>> Running as an AP Bridge
>> Running WDS and Nstreme
>>
>> Site B to Site A
>> RB133 board
>> A5413 chip
>> v3.30 OS
>> Running as Station WDS
>> Running WDS and Nstreme
>>
>> Site B to Site C
>> RB532A board
>> AR5413 chip
>> v3.30 OS
>> Running as an AP Bridge
>> Running Nstreme (not WDS)
>>
>> Site C
>> RB532A
>> AR5413 chip
>> v3.30 OS
>> Running as station pseudobridge
>> Running Nstreme (not WDS)
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
Excellent question, we have never tried that yet, we simply reboot.  
It's 400 people down so we kind of hurry, next time we will.

On 3/31/2010 12:39 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
> Do you mean that at site A when your system is in trouble you are able to 
> communicate with the 433 over the wired connection? What about sites B and C? 
> When the tech gets on scene does he have access to the gear that's down via 
> ethernet? Does the gear respond?
>
> Greg
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
>
>
>> We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.
>> It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each
>> other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a
>> Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another
>> site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a
>> managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.
>>
>> What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.
>> Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since
>> it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and
>> C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up
>> but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant
>> feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This
>> will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again
>> for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not
>> communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B
>> and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any
>> residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged
>> not routed network.
>>
>> The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in
>> spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens
>> during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day
>> user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they
>> don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic
>> between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to
>> run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send
>> people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are
>> going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that
>> doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Forbes
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well.

"Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3
million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M."

"Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as
adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing."

I dont know that "in-trouble" was an appropriate inference, Aperto has  many 
valueable assets such as patents, reputation, and customer base. But the 
above quotes would suggest that Aperto was comming up short on capital 
(cash) for future growth, considering it appears they agreed to merge for 
under the value of pending revenue/sales.

Whether this is a good thing for past Aperto Stockholders, I do not know. 
But I can only view this as a good thing for WISPs, and the emerged stronger 
combined company.
I also would think this would strengthen equipment buyer's confidence that 
they were buying into a complete solution that would last, with the AP/CPE 
manufactures tied togeather as one by more than just the "wimax standard".

I also find it interesting that Aperto will continue to operating as an 
independent subsidiary, after words. I could think of a few reasons why.
Just wondering if that is partially to also protect each product line's 
focus (Aperto high end, Tranzeo value line).
Then again, maybe operating under the Tranzeo vision, Aperto AP will migrate 
into the "value line" also.
I dont mean anything bad by that, Aperto offers lots of value, I'm just 
referring to the fact that the Tranzeo compoents sell at lower price.

I also dont think this is a good one to compare to Proxim mergers, as just 
occured. With Proxim mergers, there wasn't really much complimentary product 
offerings achievied by each party, if anything there was duplication of 
lines and discontinuance of lines.

Where as with Aperto/Tranzeo, clearly the marriage of the AP and CPE makes 
sense.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Drew Lentz" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto


Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice
products for WISPs.

http://bit.ly/bX4HTc

Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
solution

PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) --
BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
 1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier
manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under the
terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of
Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.

The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a
complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and
LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3
million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.

"Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while
still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service
providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in
trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within
a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."

"The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing
Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."

Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined
technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide.

"Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product
breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and
channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,"said
Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto
Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding
our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."

"This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in
Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
(TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure
provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development agreement
with Tranzeo, this will g

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
They do not show registered at the site that feeds them so no, something 
is causing them is dissociate.

Thanks for the input,
Forbes

On 3/31/2010 1:50 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> Do the radios  show link connection before you reboot?  If so, have you
> tried to MAC telnet into them?
> I have a couple that would show down but I could MAC telnet into them.
> All of the onboard functions worked.  Then I tried to ping something
> else and got a buffer overflow error.  Reboot would fix for some period
> of time.  At least with mine I did not have to go to the site.
>
> Forbes Mercy wrote:
>
>> We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.
>> It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each
>> other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a
>> Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another
>> site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a
>> managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.
>>
>> What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.
>> Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since
>> it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and
>> C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up
>> but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant
>> feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This
>> will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again
>> for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not
>> communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B
>> and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any
>> residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged
>> not routed network.
>>
>> The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in
>> spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens
>> during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day
>> user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they
>> don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic
>> between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to
>> run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send
>> people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are
>> going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that
>> doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> Forbes
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging -- solved

2010-03-31 Thread Data Technology
Well, I set the AP to use WDS and the bullet to station wds and now 
everything works ok.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology

Data Technology wrote:
> One thing I have noticed is that when I ping the local MT box 
> (x.x.x.125) ip from the AP I get a reply and I also see icmp traffic on 
> the local MT with torch.  If I ping the ip of the subnet that I am 
> trying to route to the local MT box (x.x.x.194) I get several reply's 
> back from x.x.x.126 which is the bullet and I get no traffic on the 
> local MT box.  Also, I do have a port on the local MT box configured 
> with an ip (x.x.x.194) of the subnet that I am trying to route.
>
> It looks like the bullet is passing it's local subnet traffic.  Any 
> other traffic not on it's local subnet it is trying to reply to instead 
> of bridging it.  I don't see any option on the bullet to enable / 
> disable proxy-arp.  I know sometimes I need proxy-arp on my AP's to make 
> things work.
>
> LaRoy McCann
> Data Technology
>
>
> Stuart Pierce wrote:
>   
>> Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through 
>> bridged bullets and not in WDS.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Data Technology 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Completely different subnets.
>>>
>>> AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127)   Bridged Bullet  x.x.x.126/26   Local MT  
>>> x.x.x.125/26
>>> Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125
>>>
>>>
>>> LaRoy McCann
>>> Data Technology
>>>
>>> Greg Ihnen wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other 
 words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within 
 that /24?

 Greg
 On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote:

   
   
 
> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
> ethernet side to an MT router.
> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
> computers work fine.
>
> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first 
> place)?
> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>
> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
> control.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Very good one - didn't think about that =)

Actually it's because I replaced Tranzeo 2.4 stuff with Mikrotik ARC
kits (EXPENSIVE).  I had not heard of Ubiquiti until "the list" I
think...

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
> Was it time between announcement and ACTUAL delivery?
>
> :P
>
> ryan
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman
> wrote:
>
>> Actually I did find the best solution for water leaks but it took some
>> time.
>>
>> Full guide here:
>> http://tinyurl.com/y9btdjl
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
>> > The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a
>> > tool... ever.
>> >
>> > Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back
>> plate
>> > of the radios squishing the foam.
>> > Hand tighten the nut as far as you can.
>> > Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit.
>> > Done.
>> >
>> > DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let
>> in
>> > water.
>> >
>> > The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a
>> bad
>> > seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year...
>> and
>> > I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still
>> working
>> > great)
>> >
>> > ryan
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>> >
>> >> These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just
>> don't
>> >> over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they
>> work
>> >> great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All
>> those
>> >> were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in
>> the
>> >> boot messing with the seal.
>> >>
>> >> However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER
>> USE
>> >> THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If all
>> is
>> >> fine there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a inside
>> >> address if you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. Remember
>> >> "Friends don't let friends bridge networks"
>> >>
>> >> Steve Barnes
>> >> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
>> >> To: WISPA General List
>> >> Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>> >>
>> >> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>> >> higher
>> >> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
>> stuff
>> >> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>> read
>> >> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other"
>> way,
>> >> we
>> >> now have great signal.  :-)
>> >>
>> >> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> >> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>> own
>> >> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> >> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>> >>
>> >> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>> >> "off-line",
>> >> I can still access the Radio.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>> >>
>> >> -Gary-
>> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Hickey
Force the equipment it is connected to to 10 Mb.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


Can you force them to 100F or 10F?  I would try 10F to see if that
solves the problem first.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
wrote:
> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply
> /
> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>
> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5
> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>
> -Gary-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Yes.
>
> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>
> The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last
> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
> working GREAT for years).
>
> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>
> 1) recrimp both ends
> 2) replace radio
> 3) replace line
>
> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>> higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
>> stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>> read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>> we
>> now have great signal. :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>> own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>> "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Terry Hickey

- Original Message - 
From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


Can you force them to 100F or 10F?  I would try 10F to see if that
solves the problem first.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
wrote:
> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply
> /
> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>
> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5
> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>
> -Gary-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Yes.
>
> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>
> The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last
> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
> working GREAT for years).
>
> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>
> 1) recrimp both ends
> 2) replace radio
> 3) replace line
>
> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>> higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
>> stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>> read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>> we
>> now have great signal. :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>> own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>> "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
Bob,

I fully agree with your point. FCC enforcement is not the best method for 
promptly curing illegal interference that is harming one's operations.
The process does not move fast enough for that. I know if I have not 
resolved such interference within the day, I've lost the subscribers.
There is always a better approach, whether it be to rebuild one's own 
equipment/network to work around it, negotiate directly with other party, 
cause reciprocal harm until they play nice, or have attorney send letter.

FCC enforcement only occurs at a time table acceptable to penalize those 
that abuse and ignore the regulations.
It was mentioned recently by WISPA's attorney (Steve), that the FCC's 
authority is only to shut down abusers and fine abusers.
There are no mechanisms or legal authority for compensating those that have 
been interferred with.

If illegal interference occurs to the level that rebuilding one's own radio 
solution can not help, and the time involved in engaging the FCC is needed, 
I'd argue that it is likely a situation where the one being interfered with 
is at risk of incurring enough significant harm, that it may be wise to 
document the violation legally anyways.
Thus, might be worth sending the attorney letter. You'd atleast then be able 
to prove if the violator agreed or refused to cooperate and take corrective 
action.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "Lakeland" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!


>I agree with WHO.   But you are talking MONTHS and not even sure if 
>anything
> has been done. How many people out here can wait MONTHS for a cure to 
> their
> issue? And its unknown if there even was or will be any enforcement 
> action.
>
> If I make a complaint to enforcement regarding a licensed interference 
> issue
> they are on that within 24 hours. If I tell them who and where and/or its 
> a
> public safety issue they will usually respond within hours.
>
> But you're saying MONTHS with all the right info.
>
> I don't know.  Still sounds like what I said.
>
> :-)
>
> -B-
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>
>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO 
>> to
>> call.
>>
>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd 
>> drop
>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>
>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told 
>> him
>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>
>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT 
>> the
>> consumer complaint folks.
>>
>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the 
>> good
>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>> complaint.
>>
>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far 
>> enough
>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>
>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation 
>> in
>> order first.
>>
>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that 
>> we
>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over 
>> the
>> allowable power levels.
>>
>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well 
>> below,
>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can 
>> get
>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better 
>> ears
>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Lakeland" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
>>> could
>>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
>>> calling
>>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office 
>>> you
>>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong.
>>>
>>> -B-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>
 H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.

 marlon

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Re: [WISPA] 2.4/5.x GHz load balancing

2010-03-31 Thread Rogelio
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Justin Wilson  wrote:
>    You can use connect lists in Mikrotik to force clients to connect at
> minimum levels. This way you don’t have to worry so much about the band, but
> meeting those minimum levels.  I am assuming you are working this into a
> hotspot type of setup.

Exactly.  It's a hotspot, but not just a hotspot, one with tens of
thousands of people.

The new PDA phones have 5.x GHz chipsets, and I'm hoping to offload a
significant number of clients on that bad where feasible.

I was hoping for a wireless solution that was "automagic" there, but
haven't yet found one...



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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Ryan Spott
Was it time between announcement and ACTUAL delivery?

:P

ryan

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Actually I did find the best solution for water leaks but it took some
> time.
>
> Full guide here:
> http://tinyurl.com/y9btdjl
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
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> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
> > The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a
> > tool... ever.
> >
> > Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back
> plate
> > of the radios squishing the foam.
> > Hand tighten the nut as far as you can.
> > Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit.
> > Done.
> >
> > DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let
> in
> > water.
> >
> > The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a
> bad
> > seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year...
> and
> > I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still
> working
> > great)
> >
> > ryan
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
> >
> >> These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just
> don't
> >> over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they
> work
> >> great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All
> those
> >> were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in
> the
> >> boot messing with the seal.
> >>
> >> However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER
> USE
> >> THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If all
> is
> >> fine there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a inside
> >> address if you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. Remember
> >> "Friends don't let friends bridge networks"
> >>
> >> Steve Barnes
> >> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
> >>
> >> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
> >> higher
> >> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
> stuff
> >> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
> read
> >> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other"
> way,
> >> we
> >> now have great signal.  :-)
> >>
> >> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
> >> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
> own
> >> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
> >> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
> >>
> >> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
> >> "off-line",
> >> I can still access the Radio.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
> >>
> >> -Gary-
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Actually I did find the best solution for water leaks but it took some time.

Full guide here:
http://tinyurl.com/y9btdjl

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
> The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a
> tool... ever.
>
> Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back plate
> of the radios squishing the foam.
> Hand tighten the nut as far as you can.
> Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit.
> Done.
>
> DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let in
> water.
>
> The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a bad
> seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year... and
> I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still working
> great)
>
> ryan
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>> These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just don't
>> over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work
>> great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those
>> were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the
>> boot messing with the seal.
>>
>> However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE
>> THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If all is
>> fine there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a inside
>> address if you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. Remember
>> "Friends don't let friends bridge networks"
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>>
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>> higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>> we
>> now have great signal.  :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>> "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Ryan Spott
The best way to describe how to tightnen these covers is to NOT use a
tool... ever.

Press the cover closed near the stud... press it hard against the back plate
of the radios squishing the foam.
Hand tighten the nut as far as you can.
Let go of cover, let the foam expand a bit.
Done.

DO NOT over tighten.. if you do, the corners of the cover bow up and let in
water.

The only water issue I have EVER had with a TRZ radio was when I had a bad
seal from the factory on a backhaul... that operated for over a year... and
I only discovered it when I moved it and it sloshed. (it was still working
great)

ryan

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just don't
> over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work
> great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those
> were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the
> boot messing with the seal.
>
> However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE
> THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If all is
> fine there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a inside
> address if you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. Remember
> "Friends don't let friends bridge networks"
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
> higher
> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
> we
> now have great signal.  :-)
>
> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>
> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
> "off-line",
> I can still access the Radio.
>
> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>
> -Gary-
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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Scott Reed
Do the radios  show link connection before you reboot?  If so, have you 
tried to MAC telnet into them?
I have a couple that would show down but I could MAC telnet into them.  
All of the onboard functions worked.  Then I tried to ping something 
else and got a buffer overflow error.  Reboot would fix for some period 
of time.  At least with mine I did not have to go to the site.

Forbes Mercy wrote:
> We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
> It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
> other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
> Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
> site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
> managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.
>
> What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
> Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
> it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
> C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
> but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
> feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
> will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
> for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
> communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
> and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
> residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
> not routed network.
>
> The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
> spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
> during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
> user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
> don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
> between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
> run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
> people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
> going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
> doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
I have had issues on FM Towers that cause problems with ethernet - not 
just with Tranzeo either.   We are getting ready to run fiber up an FM 
tower in the next two weeks to resolve ongoing ethernet issues.   One of 
the FM stations most likely has an antenna going bad that is causing the 
problem.   Same thing happened last year, and two weeks after we ran the 
fiber, the main FM antenna at that tower burned up, with holes melted 
through the connectors at the bottom.They were lucky it didn't burst 
into flames.

Tranzeo's ethernet setup is actually pretty robust.   There is a ferrite 
bead inside on the ethernet jumper and it does seem to make it work 
better than a few other radios I have used.

Matt Larsen
mlar...@vistabeam.com


On 3/31/2010 3:13 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
> Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you 
> replaced the poe, just power supply.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Kosinet Wireless"
> Reply-To: WISPA General List
> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400
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>
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we
>> now have great signal.  :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Steve Barnes
5.0.4 is working great for me.

Steve Barnes
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ron Calhoun
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

I run Tranzeo gear in the 5Ghz band and I've had the same issues.
Try rolling the firmware on the radio back to an earlier version even
thought it's new out of the box. I have had two whole shipments with
5.0.2 that did the exact same thing for me. Needless to say, they all
have 3.6.7 now and are working fine.
New shipments today have 5.0.3 which works just fine.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless  wrote:
> Different Router - Same mfg. Original (Worked with the Alvarion Radio for 2+
> years) Netgear FVS318 - Installed a new Netgear FVS338 as a test piece today
> with the same results. The last thing today was to replace the POE splitter
> and patch cable to the Router.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stuart Pierce" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
>> Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say
>> you replaced the poe, just power supply.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400
>>
>>>We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>>>higher
>>>speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>>>for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>>>read
>>>all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>>>we
>>>now have great signal.  :-)
>>>
>>>The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>>>Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>>>own
>>>after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>>>Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>>
>>>It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>>>"off-line",
>>>I can still access the Radio.
>>>
>>>Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>>
>>>-Gary-
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Ron Calhoun
I run Tranzeo gear in the 5Ghz band and I've had the same issues.
Try rolling the firmware on the radio back to an earlier version even
thought it's new out of the box. I have had two whole shipments with
5.0.2 that did the exact same thing for me. Needless to say, they all
have 3.6.7 now and are working fine.
New shipments today have 5.0.3 which works just fine.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless  wrote:
> Different Router - Same mfg. Original (Worked with the Alvarion Radio for 2+
> years) Netgear FVS318 - Installed a new Netgear FVS338 as a test piece today
> with the same results. The last thing today was to replace the POE splitter
> and patch cable to the Router.
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Stuart Pierce" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
>> Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say
>> you replaced the poe, just power supply.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400
>>
>>>We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>>>higher
>>>speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>>>for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>>>read
>>>all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>>>we
>>>now have great signal.  :-)
>>>
>>>The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>>>Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>>>own
>>>after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>>>Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>>
>>>It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>>>"off-line",
>>>I can still access the Radio.
>>>
>>>Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>>
>>>-Gary-
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Data Technology
One thing I have noticed is that when I ping the local MT box 
(x.x.x.125) ip from the AP I get a reply and I also see icmp traffic on 
the local MT with torch.  If I ping the ip of the subnet that I am 
trying to route to the local MT box (x.x.x.194) I get several reply's 
back from x.x.x.126 which is the bullet and I get no traffic on the 
local MT box.  Also, I do have a port on the local MT box configured 
with an ip (x.x.x.194) of the subnet that I am trying to route.

It looks like the bullet is passing it's local subnet traffic.  Any 
other traffic not on it's local subnet it is trying to reply to instead 
of bridging it.  I don't see any option on the bullet to enable / 
disable proxy-arp.  I know sometimes I need proxy-arp on my AP's to make 
things work.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology


Stuart Pierce wrote:
> Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged 
> bullets and not in WDS.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Data Technology 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500
>
>   
>> Completely different subnets.
>>
>> AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127)   Bridged Bullet  x.x.x.126/26   Local MT  
>> x.x.x.125/26
>> Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125
>>
>>
>> LaRoy McCann
>> Data Technology
>>
>> Greg Ihnen wrote:
>> 
>>> Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other 
>>> words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within 
>>> that /24?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
 ethernet side to an MT router.
 Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
 computers work fine.

 I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
 in order to feed a local access point at the office.
 The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
 Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first 
 place)?
 I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.

 Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
 the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
 what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
 within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
 I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
 some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
 control.

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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kosinet Wireless
Different Router - Same mfg. Original (Worked with the Alvarion Radio for 2+ 
years) Netgear FVS318 - Installed a new Netgear FVS338 as a test piece today 
with the same results. The last thing today was to replace the POE splitter 
and patch cable to the Router.



- Original Message - 
From: "Stuart Pierce" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


> Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say 
> you replaced the poe, just power supply.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400
>
>>We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use 
>>higher
>>speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>>for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we 
>>read
>>all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, 
>>we
>>now have great signal.  :-)
>>
>>The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>>Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its 
>>own
>>after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>>Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>>It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is 
>>"off-line",
>>I can still access the Radio.
>>
>>Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>>-Gary-
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kosinet Wireless
This is not a water issue. New radio today, and it started acting up within 
30 minutes. Our whole wireless network is "bridged" - we haven't seen 
issue like this with any other setup we have out there. The only component 
we haven't swapped out is the wire up to the radio. It's new construction, 
with a professionally installed outdoor Cat5 run to the radio. We did 
replace the ends today...

-Gary-




- Original Message - 
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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


> These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just 
> don't over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they 
> work great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. 
> All those were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much 
> cable in the boot messing with the seal.
>
> However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER 
> USE THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If 
> all is fine there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a 
> inside address if you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. 
> Remember "Friends don't let friends bridge networks"
>
> Steve Barnes
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Kosinet Wireless
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use 
> higher
> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we 
> read
> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, 
> we
> now have great signal.  :-)
>
> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its 
> own
> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>
> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is 
> "off-line",
> I can still access the Radio.
>
> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>
> -Gary-
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Stuart Pierce
Ok router swapped out for a different mfg ? You didn't specifically say you 
replaced the poe, just power supply.


-- Original Message --
From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400

>We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher 
>speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff 
>for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read 
>all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we 
>now have great signal.  :-)
>
>The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the 
>Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own 
>after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, 
>Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>
>It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line", 
>I can still access the Radio.
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>Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Data Technology
Yeah,  that brings back bad memories.  I did that once(wds ap mode) and 
had nothing but problems.
I will try the wds station mode and see how that works.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology

Greg Ihnen wrote:
> If one end is WDS AP and the other end (the bullet) is WDS Station then there 
> won't be any issues. If you set the bullet to WDS AP as well then you'll half 
> your throughput.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>
>   
>> The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem.  MT and UBNT wds work 
>> together best I remember.
>> What is the down side to using WDS on the AP?
>> Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS?
>>
>> LaRoy McCann
>> Data Technology
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> 
>>> Change both the Ap & CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode...
>>> (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units).
>>>
>>> Faisal.
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the
 ethernet side to an MT router.
 Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office
 computers work fine.

 I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router
 in order to feed a local access point at the office.
 The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
 Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first 
 place)?
 I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.

 Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at
 the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see
 what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function
 within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.
 I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test
 some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network
 control.

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 Data Technology



 
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Stuart Pierce
Shouldn't matter bridged, I've got different networks running through bridged 
bullets and not in WDS.

-- Original Message --
From: Data Technology 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:09:57 -0500

>Completely different subnets.
>
>AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127)   Bridged Bullet  x.x.x.126/26   Local MT  
>x.x.x.125/26
>Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125
>
>
>LaRoy McCann
>Data Technology
>
>Greg Ihnen wrote:
>> Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other 
>> words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within 
>> that /24?
>>
>> Greg
>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
>>> ethernet side to an MT router.
>>> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
>>> computers work fine.
>>>
>>> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
>>> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
>>> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
>>> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
>>> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>>>
>>> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
>>> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
>>> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
>>> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
>>> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
>>> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
>>> control.
>>>
>>> LaRoy McCann
>>> Data Technology
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Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Mikrotik
PF-Sense
Syswan

All would do the trick.

Faisal.

On 3/31/2010 2:47 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:
> Depends on what you want to do with it.
> In terms of what to use both connections for.
> Failover, Load Balancing...etc...
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> I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams
> that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere.
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> From: "RickG"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
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> I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after
> awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT
> woudl be best but never tried it.
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
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>> What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I
>>  
> is
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>> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Baird
That does not matter, the Bullet is in bridge mode.

Regards
Michael Baird
> Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other 
> words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that 
> /24?
>
> Greg
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>
>   
>> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
>> ethernet side to an MT router.
>> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
>> computers work fine.
>>
>> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
>> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
>> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
>> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
>> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>>
>> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
>> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
>> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
>> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
>> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
>> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
>> control.
>>
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>> Data Technology
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Baird
How about the Tranzeo hardware reset to defaults. (One of the reasons we 
dumped them a while back, that and Ubiquiti came to market at half the 
price/better performance).

Regards
Michael Baird


> Yes.
>
> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>
> The plastic boot never sealed for me.  I thought it had on the last
> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
> working GREAT for years).
>
> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>
> 1) recrimp both ends
> 2) replace radio
> 3) replace line
>
> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless  
> wrote:
>   
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we
>> now have great signal.  :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Steve Barnes
These guys always whine about Tranzeo's cover and seals.  If you just don't 
over tighten them and make sure the seal is on right at the top they work 
great. I have 450 of them out with only 3 water issues in 3 years. All those 
were installer overzealous with a nut driver or putting to much cable in the 
boot messing with the seal. 

However, due to some of the issues that you are discussing here I NEVER USE 
THEM BRIDGED.  Try setting it to router and login to the radio.  If all is fine 
there then the cabling is fine.   You can port forward to a inside address if 
you want with Tranzeo.  Is bridged really important. Remember "Friends don't 
let friends bridge networks"

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Kosinet Wireless
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher
speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we
now have great signal.  :-)

The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.

It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line",
I can still access the Radio.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

-Gary-





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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Data Technology
Completely different subnets.

AP x.x.x.65/26 (64-127)   Bridged Bullet  x.x.x.126/26   Local MT  
x.x.x.125/26
Trying to route x.x.x.192/28 (192-207) from AP to Local MT x.x.x.125


LaRoy McCann
Data Technology

Greg Ihnen wrote:
> Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other 
> words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that 
> /24?
>
> Greg
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>
>   
>> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
>> ethernet side to an MT router.
>> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
>> computers work fine.
>>
>> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
>> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
>> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
>> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
>> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>>
>> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
>> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
>> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
>> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
>> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
>> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
>> control.
>>
>> LaRoy McCann
>> Data Technology
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kosinet Wireless
Yep - Tried another Router - Haven't tried a switch yet..



- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


What about the router?  Has this been changed at all?

Can you try a dumb layer 2 switch between the two?

What are you using to determine the Ethernet connectivity is lost?

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kosinet Wireless  
wrote:
> We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., 
> etc.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Can you force them to 100F or 10F? I would try 10F to see if that
> solves the problem first.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power 
>> supply
>> /
>> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>>
>> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
>> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of 
>> cat5
>> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>>
>> The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last
>> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
>> working GREAT for years).
>>
>> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>>
>> 1) recrimp both ends
>> 2) replace radio
>> 3) replace line
>>
>> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
>> wrote:
>>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>>> higher
>>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
>>> stuff
>>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>>> read
>>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" 
>>> way,
>>> we
>>> now have great signal. :-)
>>>
>>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>>> own
>>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>>
>>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>>> "off-line",
>>> I can still access the Radio.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>>
>>> -Gary-
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
We have seen Tranzeos have bad negotiation issues.  We stopped using
Tranzeo with the newer GIG port Mikrotiks.  They simply wont keep the link.
We advise our clients to either keep some 450 10/100 boards on stock or swap
out the tranzeos rather than hooking up to a Gig port.  I know what you all
are thinking. Simply hard set the router port to 10 or 100.  Doesn¹t work in
the real world.

I have verified this with TR6000, CPQ, and TR5x.  All with varying
levels of firmware.

Justin
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:57:03 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

What about the router?  Has this been changed at all?

Can you try a dumb layer 2 switch between the two?

What are you using to determine the Ethernet connectivity is lost?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.²
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
wrote:
> We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Can you force them to 100F or 10F?  I would try 10F to see if that
> solves the problem first.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.²
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply
>> /
>> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>>
>> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
>> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5
>> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>>
>> The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last
>> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
>> working GREAT for years).
>>
>> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>>
>> 1) recrimp both ends
>> 2) replace radio
>> 3) replace line
>>
>> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> ³Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.²
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
>> wrote:
>>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>>> higher
>>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
>>> stuff
>>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>>> read
>>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>>> we
>>> now have great signal. :-)
>>>
>>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>>> own
>>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>>
>>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>>> "off-line",
>>> I can still access the Radio.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>>
>>> -Gary-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Ihnen
If one end is WDS AP and the other end (the bullet) is WDS Station then there 
won't be any issues. If you set the bullet to WDS AP as well then you'll half 
your throughput.

Greg
On Mar 31, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Data Technology wrote:

> The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem.  MT and UBNT wds work 
> together best I remember.
> What is the down side to using WDS on the AP?
> Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS?
> 
> LaRoy McCann
> Data Technology
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Change both the Ap & CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode...
>> (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units).
>> 
>> Faisal.
>> 
>> On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>> 
>>> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the
>>> ethernet side to an MT router.
>>> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office
>>> computers work fine.
>>> 
>>> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router
>>> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
>>> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
>>> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
>>> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>>> 
>>> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at
>>> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see
>>> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function
>>> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.
>>> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test
>>> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network
>>> control.
>>> 
>>> LaRoy McCann
>>> Data Technology
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Stuart Pierce
I guess the obvious, have you changed routers yet ?

-- Original Message --
From: "Kosinet Wireless" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400

>We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher 
>speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff 
>for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read 
>all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we 
>now have great signal.  :-)
>
>The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the 
>Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own 
>after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, 
>Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>
>It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line", 
>I can still access the Radio.
>
>Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
What about the router?  Has this been changed at all?

Can you try a dumb layer 2 switch between the two?

What are you using to determine the Ethernet connectivity is lost?

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Kosinet Wireless  wrote:
> We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Can you force them to 100F or 10F?  I would try 10F to see if that
> solves the problem first.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply
>> /
>> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>>
>> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
>> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5
>> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>>
>> The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last
>> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
>> working GREAT for years).
>>
>> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>>
>> 1) recrimp both ends
>> 2) replace radio
>> 3) replace line
>>
>> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
>> wrote:
>>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>>> higher
>>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4
>>> stuff
>>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>>> read
>>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>>> we
>>> now have great signal. :-)
>>>
>>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>>> own
>>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>>
>>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>>> "off-line",
>>> I can still access the Radio.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>>
>>> -Gary-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Ihnen
Is the subnet outside the scope of the ip range the bullet is on? In other 
words is the bullet on a /24 for example and does the subnet fall within that 
/24?

Greg
On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Data Technology wrote:

> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
> ethernet side to an MT router.
> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
> computers work fine.
> 
> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
> 
> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
> control.
> 
> LaRoy McCann
> Data Technology
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kosinet Wireless
We've tried all of the settings available - Auto, 100, 10, etc., etc., etc.


- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


Can you force them to 100F or 10F?  I would try 10F to see if that
solves the problem first.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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continue that counts.”
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless  
wrote:
> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply 
> /
> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>
> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5
> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>
> -Gary-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Yes.
>
> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>
> The plastic boot never sealed for me. I thought it had on the last
> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
> working GREAT for years).
>
> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>
> 1) recrimp both ends
> 2) replace radio
> 3) replace line
>
> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>> higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 
>> stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>> read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>> we
>> now have great signal. :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>> own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>> "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Can you force them to 100F or 10F?  I would try 10F to see if that
solves the problem first.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Kosinet Wireless  wrote:
> It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply /
> poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.
>
> The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock
> solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5
> with a stock power supply, and it's been great.
>
> -Gary-
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..
>
>
> Yes.
>
> IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...
>
> The plastic boot never sealed for me.  I thought it had on the last
> radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
> working GREAT for years).
>
> If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then
>
> 1) recrimp both ends
> 2) replace radio
> 3) replace line
>
> If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless 
> wrote:
>> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use
>> higher
>> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
>> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we
>> read
>> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way,
>> we
>> now have great signal. :-)
>>
>> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
>> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its
>> own
>> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
>> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>>
>> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is
>> "off-line",
>> I can still access the Radio.
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>>
>> -Gary-
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
We bought out a company several years ago.  They had some Hyperlink 2
watt 900MHZ amps. I can only imagine how much ³damage² those could do if
they were hooked to an Omni.  Sheesh.
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: Greg Ihnen 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:15:43 -0430
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

I bought an amp from them once (before I knew better) and they only sold it
to me because I was taking it out of the country (they took my word on it).

Greg

On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, RickG wrote:

> I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my
> towers. They wouldnt sell it to me!
> -RickG
> 
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples  wrote:
>> Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite:
>> 
>> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131
>> 
>> Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors??
>> 
>> Tom S.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>> 
>> 
>>> lol
>>> 
>>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
>>> away
>>> sooner than later.
>>> 
>>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
>>> are
>>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>> 
>>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
>>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>> 
>>> marlon
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>> 
>>> 
 Marlon,
 
 I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
 Otherwise
 you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
 50watts EIRP.
 
 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
 
 I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
 to
 
 call.
 
 I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
 drop
 
 his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
 
 When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
 him
 that there was nothing they could do.
 
 I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
 the
 consumer complaint folks.
 
 He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
 clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
 good
 
 guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
 able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
 complaint.
 
 This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
 heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
 enough
 along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
 
 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
 in
 
 order first.
 
 It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that
 we
 can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
 the
 allowable power levels.
 
 For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
 below,
 legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
 antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
 get
 that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
 ears
 also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
 means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
 means less interference etc. etc. etc.
 
 laters,
 marlon
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Lakeland" 
 To: "WISPA General List" 
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love i

Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kosinet Wireless
It's a new radio / install. We've replaced the radio / ends / power supply / 
poe splitter / router / patch cable to the router.

The Tranzeo AP at the POP hasn't has so much as "burped" - It's been rock 
solid. I've got a Tranzeo at my house, up the tower with 50 + feet of cat5 
with a stock power supply, and it's been great.

-Gary-

- Original Message - 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..


Yes.

IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...

The plastic boot never sealed for me.  I thought it had on the last
radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
working GREAT for years).

If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then

1) recrimp both ends
2) replace radio
3) replace line

If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless  
wrote:
> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use 
> higher
> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we 
> read
> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, 
> we
> now have great signal. :-)
>
> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its 
> own
> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>
> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is 
> "off-line",
> I can still access the Radio.
>
> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>
> -Gary-
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Ihnen
I bought an amp from them once (before I knew better) and they only sold it to 
me because I was taking it out of the country (they took my word on it).

Greg

On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, RickG wrote:

> I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my
> towers. They wouldnt sell it to me!
> -RickG
> 
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples  wrote:
>> Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite:
>> 
>> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131
>> 
>> Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors??
>> 
>> Tom S.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>> 
>> 
>>> lol
>>> 
>>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
>>> away
>>> sooner than later.
>>> 
>>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
>>> are
>>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>> 
>>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
>>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>> 
>>> marlon
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>> 
>>> 
 Marlon,
 
 I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
 Otherwise
 you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
 50watts EIRP.
 
 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
 
 I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
 to
 
 call.
 
 I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
 drop
 
 his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
 
 When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
 him
 that there was nothing they could do.
 
 I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
 the
 consumer complaint folks.
 
 He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
 clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
 good
 
 guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
 able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
 complaint.
 
 This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
 heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
 enough
 along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
 
 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
 in
 
 order first.
 
 It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that
 we
 can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
 the
 allowable power levels.
 
 For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
 below,
 legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
 antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
 get
 that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
 ears
 also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
 means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
 means less interference etc. etc. etc.
 
 laters,
 marlon
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Lakeland" 
 To: "WISPA General List" 
 Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
 
 
> Marlon,
> 
> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
> could
> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
> calling
> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
> you
> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
> 
> Maybe I'm just totally wrong.
> 
> -B-
> 
>>>

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Ihnen
Do you mean that at site A when your system is in trouble you are able to 
communicate with the 433 over the wired connection? What about sites B and C? 
When the tech gets on scene does he have access to the gear that's down via 
ethernet? Does the gear respond?

Greg
On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:

> We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
> It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
> other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
> Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
> site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
> managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.
> 
> What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
> Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
> it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
> C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
> but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
> feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
> will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
> for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
> communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
> and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
> residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
> not routed network.
> 
> The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
> spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
> during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
> user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
> don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
> between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
> run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
> people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
> going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
> doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Forbes
> 
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Data Technology
The AP is MT but I don't think that is a problem.  MT and UBNT wds work 
together best I remember.
What is the down side to using WDS on the AP?
Will the other users on the AP have any performance issues due to using WDS?

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology

Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Change both the Ap & CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode...
> (WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units).
>
> Faisal.
>
> On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote:
>   
>> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the
>> ethernet side to an MT router.
>> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office
>> computers work fine.
>>
>> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router
>> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
>> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
>> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
>> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>>
>> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at
>> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see
>> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function
>> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.
>> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test
>> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network
>> control.
>>
>> LaRoy McCann
>> Data Technology
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Ihnen
Why aren't you using WDS on the site B-C link?

Greg
On Mar 31, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:

> Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info:
> 
> Site A
> RB532A board
> AR5212 chip
> v3.30 OS
> Running as an AP Bridge
> Running WDS and Nstreme
> 
> Site B to Site A
> RB133 board
> A5413 chip
> v3.30 OS
> Running as Station WDS
> Running WDS and Nstreme
> 
> Site B to Site C
> RB532A board
> AR5413 chip
> v3.30 OS
> Running as an AP Bridge
> Running Nstreme (not WDS)
> 
> Site C
> RB532A
> AR5413 chip
> v3.30 OS
> Running as station pseudobridge
> Running Nstreme (not WDS)
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
Seen it many times. Tranzeo is notorious with me for weak ethernet.
-- 
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From: Kosinet Wireless 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:22:41 -0400
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo..

We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher
speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we
now have great signal.  :-)

The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.

It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line",
I can still access the Radio.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

-Gary-






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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Robert West
DFS enabled on any of them?  There was something about DFS issues, I think
before the 3.3 firmware.  Anyone know if that was fixed in 3.3?

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info:

Site A
RB532A board
AR5212 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site A
RB133 board
A5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as Station WDS
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site C
RB532A board
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)

Site C
RB532A
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as station pseudobridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)





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Re: [WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes.

IME the whole Ethernet world of Tranzeo is just...bad...

The plastic boot never sealed for me.  I thought it had on the last
radio but I came to find out that it was filling with water (though
working GREAT for years).

If I were you I'd make sure there is no obvious water build up and then

1) recrimp both ends
2) replace radio
3) replace line

If you can see Ethernet errors put ferrite on after you recrimp.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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continue that counts.”
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Kosinet Wireless  wrote:
> We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher
> speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff
> for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read
> all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we
> now have great signal.  :-)
>
> The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the
> Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own
> after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply,
> Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.
>
> It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line",
> I can still access the Radio.
>
> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
>
> -Gary-
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Change both the Ap & CPE (Ubiquity) from reguar to WDS mode...
(WDS is the transparent bridge mode on these units).

Faisal.

On 3/31/2010 3:14 PM, Data Technology wrote:
> I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the
> ethernet side to an MT router.
> Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office
> computers work fine.
>
> I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router
> in order to feed a local access point at the office.
> The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
> Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
> I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.
>
> Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at
> the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see
> what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function
> within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.
> I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test
> some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network
> control.
>
> LaRoy McCann
> Data Technology
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Mike Hammett
ATI couldn't build a quality driver to save their life, so I have refused to 
purchase any ATI based motherboard or video card.  NVidia only.


-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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--
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:12 PM
To: ; "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

> Really?  I hadn't heard that before.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke  
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>But AMD was.  LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
>>
>> Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?
>>
>> I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>> continue that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  
>> wrote:
>>> Wow
>>>
>>> Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>>>
>>> This is like YDI buying Proxim
>>>
>>> Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>>>
>>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>>>
 Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
 nice
 products for WISPs.

 http://bit.ly/bX4HTc

 Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
 Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
 solution

 PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
 --
 BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
 premier
 manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
 announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
 Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
 the
 terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
 conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
 subsidiary of
 Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
 wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.

 The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
 becomes a
 complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
 WiMax and
 LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
 $8.3
 million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.

 "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
 complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
 while
 still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
 service
 providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
 established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
 now in
 trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
 fruit within
 a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."

 "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
 providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
 Managing
 Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
 broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."

 Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
 combined
 technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
 provide.

 "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
 product
 breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
 and
 channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global
 basis,"said
 Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at
 Aperto
 Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,
 expanding
 our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."

 "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services
 in
 Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
 (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication
 infrastructure
 provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development
 agreement
 with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
 technologies whi

[WISPA] Speaking of Tranzeo......

2010-03-31 Thread Kosinet Wireless
We've been primarily an Alvarion WISP in the past, but decided to use higher 
speed / lower cost gear for our expansion. Went with the Tranzeo 2.4 stuff 
for a new POP recently. Connected our first Client out there. After we read 
all of the words and realized that Vertical Polarity was the "other" way, we 
now have great signal.  :-)

The problem is, we're losing Ethernet connectivity on the inside to the 
Router. About every 10-15 minutes, it drops off, then comes back on its own 
after about 5 minutes. We've replaced Radios, Cable Ends, Power Supply, 
Router, Changed IP Addresses - Still drops off.

It's a TR-CPQ unit in bridged mode - Any time that the Router is "off-line", 
I can still access the Radio.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

-Gary-





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[WISPA] ubnt bridging

2010-03-31 Thread Data Technology
I have an M5 bullet in station bridge mode.  This is connected on the 
ethernet side to an MT router.
Thru another port on the MT router I am nating an office.  The office 
computers work fine.

I am now trying to route a small subnet to another port on the MT router 
in order to feed a local access point at the office.
The bridged bullet does not appear to be passing the subnet traffic.
Am I doing something wrong (I know, other than bridging in the first place)?
I am using version 5.1.2 of AirOS.

Now I normally would just use an MT unit with 2 radio cards and mount at 
the top of the tower but I had a bullet laying around and wanted to see 
what it can do.  I use UBNT for all my cpe's and use the router function 
within them.  I also have never used UBNT to try to pass a subnet thru.  
I just thought that with the advances that UBNT is making I would test 
some of their stuff but I don't want to get away from MT for network 
control.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology




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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Really?  I hadn't heard that before.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Nathan Stooke  wrote:
> Hello,
>
>        But AMD was.  LOL
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
>
> Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?
>
> I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
> continue that counts.”
> --- Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>> Wow
>>
>> Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>>
>> This is like YDI buying Proxim
>>
>> Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>>
>> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>>
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>>
>>> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
>>> nice
>>> products for WISPs.
>>>
>>> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>>>
>>> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
>>> Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
>>> solution
>>>
>>> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
>>> --
>>> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
>>>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
>>> premier
>>> manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
>>> announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
>>> Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
>>> the
>>> terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
>>> conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
>>> subsidiary of
>>> Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
>>> wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>>>
>>> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
>>> becomes a
>>> complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
>>> WiMax and
>>> LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
>>> $8.3
>>> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>>>
>>> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
>>> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
>>> while
>>> still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
>>> service
>>> providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
>>> established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
>>> now in
>>> trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
>>> fruit within
>>> a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."
>>>
>>> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
>>> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
>>> Managing
>>> Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
>>> broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."
>>>
>>> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
>>> combined
>>> technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
>>> provide.
>>>
>>> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
>>> product
>>> breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
>>> and
>>> channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global
>>> basis,"said
>>> Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at
>>> Aperto
>>> Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,
>>> expanding
>>> our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."
>>>
>>> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services
>>> in
>>> Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
>>> (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication
>>> infrastructure
>>> provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development
>>> agreement
>>> with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
>>> technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."
>>>
>>> Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through
>>> issuances of
>>> common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the
>>> required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
>>> stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration
>>> amount, as
>>> adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the
>>> satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may
>>> issue
>>> additional common shares to th

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello,

But AMD was.  LOL



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?

I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> Wow
>
> Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>
> This is like YDI buying Proxim
>
> Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>
>> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
>> nice
>> products for WISPs.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>>
>> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
>> Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
>> solution
>>
>> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
>> --
>> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
>>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
>> premier
>> manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
>> announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
>> Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
>> the
>> terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
>> conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
>> subsidiary of
>> Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
>> wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>>
>> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
>> becomes a
>> complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
>> WiMax and
>> LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
>> $8.3
>> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>>
>> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
>> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
>> while
>> still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
>> service
>> providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
>> established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
>> now in
>> trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
>> fruit within
>> a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."
>>
>> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
>> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
>> Managing
>> Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
>> broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."
>>
>> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
>> combined
>> technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
>> provide.
>>
>> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
>> product
>> breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
>> and
>> channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global
>> basis,"said
>> Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at
>> Aperto
>> Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,
>> expanding
>> our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."
>>
>> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services
>> in
>> Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
>> (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication
>> infrastructure
>> provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development
>> agreement
>> with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
>> technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."
>>
>> Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through
>> issuances of
>> common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the
>> required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
>> stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration
>> amount, as
>> adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the
>> satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may
>> issue
>> additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on
>> revenues
>> attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo
>> during a
>> one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the
>> merger. These
>> earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the
>> earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume
>> weighted
>> average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five
>> trading days
>>

Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
I think I tried what you're talking about.  It did not work well for me.

This is how I do it...
http://stfunoo.be/?p=268

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
> Depends on what you want to do with it.
> In terms of what to use both connections for.
> Failover, Load Balancing...etc...
>
> I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams
> that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Engineer / Customer Support
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
> 
>
> From: "RickG" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router
>
> I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after
> awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT
> woudl be best but never tried it.
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>> What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I
> is
>> now requiring rebooting too often.
>> Thanx
>> NGL
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread RickG
Wow! It's like a dream - Tranzeo and Pat too!
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Patrick Leary  wrote:
> Yes, the cat is out of the bag. We are very excited about this...
>
>
> Patrick Leary
> Aperto Networks
> 813.426.4230 mobile
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Drew Lentz
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:42 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
>
> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice 
> products for WISPs.
>
> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>
> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo 
> strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution
>
> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- 
> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT 
>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier 
> manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced 
> today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, 
> Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger 
> agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be 
> merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving 
> and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>
> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a 
> complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and 
> LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 
> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>
> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading 
> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while 
> still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service 
> providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an 
> established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in 
> trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within 
> a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."
>
> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service 
> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing 
> Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the broadband 
> wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."
>
> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined 
> technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide.
>
> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product 
> breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and 
> channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,"said 
> Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto 
> Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding 
> our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."
>
> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in 
> Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), 
> an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the 
> Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, 
> this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which 
> we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."
>
> Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of 
> common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the 
> required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the 
> stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as 
> adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the 
> satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue 
> additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues 
> attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a 
> one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These 
> earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out 
> period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted average 
> trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to 
> this announcement of the Merger Agreement.
>
> The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of 
> the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the 
> approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the 
> stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required.
> Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of 
> directors on closing.
>
> The common shares proposed to be issued have not b

Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread Jason Hensley
No experience with them, but have heard great things about the Draytek stuff
- http://www.draytek.us/

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ~NGL~
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:34 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is

now requiring rebooting too often.
Thanx
NGL 





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Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread RickG
I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my
towers. They wouldnt sell it to me!
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples  wrote:
> Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite:
>
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131
>
> Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors??
>
> Tom S.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> lol
>>
>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
>> away
>> sooner than later.
>>
>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
>> are
>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>
>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
>>> Otherwise
>>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>>> 50watts EIRP.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>>> to
>>>
>>> call.
>>>
>>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>>> drop
>>>
>>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>>
>>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>>> him
>>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>>
>>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
>>> the
>>> consumer complaint folks.
>>>
>>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>>> good
>>>
>>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
>>> enough
>>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>>
>>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>>> in
>>>
>>> order first.
>>>
>>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that
>>> we
>>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>>> the
>>> allowable power levels.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
>>> below,
>>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
>>> get
>>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>>> ears
>>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Lakeland" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>>
 Marlon,

 You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
 could
 probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
 calling
 the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
 you
 usually only get the recorded TV interference message.

 Maybe I'm just totally wrong.

 -B-



 Marlon K. Schafer writes:

> H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lakeland" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> Sorry  I side with Travis.
>>
>> I

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Scottie Arnett
Yea, I learned my lesson. I now use 7.5dB Omni's with downtilt.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: Cameron Crum 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:08 -0600

>Can't say how many times I posted on different lists warning about "15 
>dBi" omnis. It is next to impossible to make a 15 dBi omni with any 
>usable elevation beamwidth at all - electrical downtilt or not. 12 dBi 
>is pretty much the maximum and at that you will be lucky to see anything 
>over a degree on the elevation pattern. Having been in the antenna 
>business before and with a partner who made a career out of designing 
>antennas, I can tell you that we would never use an omni greater than 10 
>dBi for any application.
>
>On 3/31/2010 8:39 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> lol
>>
>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go away
>> sooner than later.
>>
>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there are
>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>
>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
>> To: "'WISPA General List'"
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise
>>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>>> 50watts EIRP.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>>> to
>>>
>>> call.
>>>
>>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>>> drop
>>>
>>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>>
>>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>>> him
>>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>>
>>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the
>>> consumer complaint folks.
>>>
>>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>>> good
>>>
>>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far enough
>>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>>
>>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>>> in
>>>
>>> order first.
>>>
>>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that we
>>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>>> the
>>> allowable power levels.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below,
>>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can get
>>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>>> ears
>>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Lakeland"
>>> To: "WISPA General List"
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>>
>>>  
 Marlon,

 You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
 could
 probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
 calling
 the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
 you
 usually only get the recorded TV interference message.

 Maybe I'm just totally wrong.

 -B-



 Marlon K. Schafer writes:


> H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread RickG
I inherited a system with several Hyperlink 15dBi antennas on the
"repeater" sites. My first thought was "yuk". After living with them
for over 3 years I've been very  impressed on how well they work. I
tried replacing one with a Pacific Wireless OD24-12 unit with
electronic downtilt, lost association with half my clients and the
other half had high packet loss. I ended up putting the original omni
back in. I'm all ears on explanations for these results.
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:
> Can't say how many times I posted on different lists warning about "15
> dBi" omnis. It is next to impossible to make a 15 dBi omni with any
> usable elevation beamwidth at all - electrical downtilt or not. 12 dBi
> is pretty much the maximum and at that you will be lucky to see anything
> over a degree on the elevation pattern. Having been in the antenna
> business before and with a partner who made a career out of designing
> antennas, I can tell you that we would never use an omni greater than 10
> dBi for any application.
>
> On 3/31/2010 8:39 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>> lol
>>
>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go away
>> sooner than later.
>>
>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there are
>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>
>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
>> To: "'WISPA General List'"
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise
>>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>>> 50watts EIRP.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>>> to
>>>
>>> call.
>>>
>>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>>> drop
>>>
>>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>>
>>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>>> him
>>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>>
>>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the
>>> consumer complaint folks.
>>>
>>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>>> good
>>>
>>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far enough
>>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>>
>>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>>> in
>>>
>>> order first.
>>>
>>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that we
>>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>>> the
>>> allowable power levels.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below,
>>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can get
>>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>>> ears
>>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Lakeland"
>>> To: "WISPA General List"
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Marlon,

 You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
 could
 probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
 calling
 the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
 you

Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread Nick Olsen
Depends on what you want to do with it.
In terms of what to use both connections for.
Failover, Load Balancing...etc...

I've had good luck with the mikrotik PCC stuff when it comes to 2 upstreams 
that are being nat'ed. Its in the wiki somewhere.

Nick Olsen
Network Engineer / Customer Support
(321) 205-1100 x106



From: "RickG" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:36 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after
awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT
woudl be best but never tried it.
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
> What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I 
is
> now requiring rebooting too often.
> Thanx
> NGL
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread RickG
I liked the Hotbrick and how it works but it became flaky after
awhile. Switched to a Linksys and got more reliablity. I'm thinking MT
woudl be best but never tried it.
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
> What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is
> now requiring rebooting too often.
> Thanx
> NGL
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Patrick Leary
Cheers Stu. 


Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Stuart Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:50 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto


Well he isn't the only WISP friend that uses Tranzeo, come on now. Just waiting 
for the Motorola people to start slamming Aperto now.

-- Original Message --
From: "Patrick Leary" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:14:17 -0700

>The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for 
>companies that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a 
>working relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz 
>CPE using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been 
>through many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market 
>go through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have 
>no real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is 
>a respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities 
>here in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We 
>have excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 
>dozen patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to 
>creation of the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a 
>WiMAX).
>
>It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that.
>
>Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake 
>things up a bit.
>
>And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt 
>Larson to become a customer!
>
>
>Patrick Leary
>Aperto Networks
>813.426.4230 mobile
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>Behalf Of Gino Villarini
>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Cc: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
>
>Wow
>
>Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>
>This is like YDI buying Proxim
>
>Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>
>Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
>On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>
>> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some 
>> nice products for WISPs.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>>
>> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo 
>> strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution
>>
>> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
>> --
>> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT 
>>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a 
>> premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication 
>> systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger 
>> agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto 
>> shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the 
>> satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a 
>> newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and 
>> continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>>
>> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes 
>> a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, 
>> WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase 
>> orders is US
>> $8.3
>> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>>
>> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market 
>> leading complete solutions provider for major telecommunications 
>> operators while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing 
>> wireless Internet service providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of 
>> Tranzeo.
>> "With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new 
>> customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will 
>> start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never 
>> looked better."
>>
>> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless 
>> service providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board 
>> and Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be 
>> bullish on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position 
>> in the market."
>>
>> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the 
>> combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able 
>> to provide.
>>
>> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional 
>> product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, 
>> support team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers 
>> on a global basis,"said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of 
>> Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. "I am looking forward 
>> to serving our existing customers, expanding our market and 

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
This is exactly what I did and it worked, we are not coordinating 
frequencies, they are a professional tower firm and immediately called 
their clients and both called me.  It also told me I had two new 
competitors in town :(, at least their professional unlike the local 
boys, problem appears solved now.

Thanks,
Forbes

On 3/31/2010 8:22 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> If they are operating illegally, a quick way to get them shut down is
> to contact the owner of the tower they are on next to yours.  I
> recommend a verbal phone call informing them of the situation
> including all documentation via e-mail.  I would follow it with a
> certified letter.
>
> Most tower operators / owners do not want to be involved with
> lawsuits.  Almost all tower contracts provide the operator a stick to
> beat the bad tenant with.
>
> You can simultaneously go for a civil lawsuit under tortuous
> interference.  Under TR you are able to get Treble Damages (a good
> thing to note in your letters).
>
>
>
> Marco Coelho
> Argon Technologies Inc.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Eric Rogers
Is there a reason you are using Pseudobridge?  You will not be able to
pass any MAC addresses behind the Station (CPE/Slave), it MAC NATs.
Change to WDS instead and see if your problems go away.  It is better to
have a layer 2 bridge and deal with the broadcasts at each site.

Eric Rogers
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info:

Site A
RB532A board
AR5212 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site A
RB133 board
A5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as Station WDS
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site C
RB532A board
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)

Site C
RB532A
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as station pseudobridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)





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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Justin Wilson
All sites have good, clean power?  Do the logs say anything before you
reboot?  

Dirty power causes a ton of weird issues.  If you have something that
regulates the power you can rule that out.  It could be maybe a motor or
something kicks on and causes enough voltage drop to lockup the board.

If would turn on graphing on the Tiks themselves.  Have it write to disk
so it survives a reboot.  See if the CPU spikes, bandwidth spikes, or
whatever.  Logging to disk is also a good idea.
-- 
Justin Wilson 
http://www.mtin.net
http://www.metrospan.net



From: Forbes Mercy 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:46:11 -0700
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info:

Site A
RB532A board
AR5212 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site A
RB133 board
A5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as Station WDS
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site C
RB532A board
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)

Site C
RB532A
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as station pseudobridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)





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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Stuart Pierce

Well he isn't the only WISP friend that uses Tranzeo, come on now. Just waiting 
for the Motorola people to start slamming Aperto now.

-- Original Message --
From: "Patrick Leary" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:14:17 -0700

>The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for 
>companies that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a 
>working relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz 
>CPE using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been 
>through many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market 
>go through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have 
>no real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is 
>a respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities 
>here in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We 
>have excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 
>dozen patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to 
>creation of the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a 
>WiMAX).
>
>It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that.
>
>Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake 
>things up a bit.
>
>And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt 
>Larson to become a customer!
>
>
>Patrick Leary
>Aperto Networks
>813.426.4230 mobile
>
>-Original Message-
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
>Of Gino Villarini
>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM
>To: WISPA General List
>Cc: WISPA General List
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto
>
>Wow
>
>Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>
>This is like YDI buying Proxim
>
>Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>
>Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
>On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>
>> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some 
>> nice products for WISPs.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>>
>> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo 
>> strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution
>>
>> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
>> --
>> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT 
>>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a 
>> premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication 
>> systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger 
>> agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto 
>> shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the 
>> satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly 
>> incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and 
>> continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>>
>> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes 
>> a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, 
>> WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase 
>> orders is US
>> $8.3
>> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>>
>> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading 
>> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators 
>> while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet 
>> service providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. 
>> "With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new 
>> customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will 
>> start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never 
>> looked better."
>>
>> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service 
>> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and 
>> Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish 
>> on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the 
>> market."
>>
>> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the 
>> combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able 
>> to provide.
>>
>> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional 
>> product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support 
>> team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a 
>> global basis,"said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide 
>> Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. "I am looking forward to serving 
>> our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new 
>> solutions to our channel partners."
>>
>> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services 
>> in Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset 
>> Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication 
>> infrastructure provider the Indon

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
Thanks for the interest in helping here is the info:

Site A
RB532A board
AR5212 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site A
RB133 board
A5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as Station WDS
Running WDS and Nstreme

Site B to Site C
RB532A board
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as an AP Bridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)

Site C
RB532A
AR5413 chip
v3.30 OS
Running as station pseudobridge
Running Nstreme (not WDS)




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Re: [WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
I personally would use Mikrotik.

An IT company around here uses (from memory) RouteFinder form MultiTech.

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:33 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
> What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is
> now requiring rebooting too often.
> Thanx
> NGL
>
>
>
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[WISPA] What Dual Lan Router

2010-03-31 Thread ~NGL~
What Dual Wan Routers do you recommend. I now use the Hotbrick LB2, but I is 
now requiring rebooting too often.
Thanx
NGL 




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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Robert West
What RouterOS version are you running?

Bob-


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.

What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
not routed network.

The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Forbes




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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Robert West
He says he's all bridged right now.

Bob-


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

Bridged or routed ?

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Forbes Mercy 
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:06:29 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.

What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
not routed network.

The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Forbes




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[WISPA] Bit Cap Thresholds, etc

2010-03-31 Thread Jason Wallace
I have a few questions for those of you who sell bandwidth by the byte:

1. What is the threshold you use, ie, 3Gb in 30 days, or do you have 
different packages?
2. Is this total bytes in & out or just in?
3. What do you charge for overages?
4. Have you considered just throttling back customers like the satellite 
guys do?

Jason



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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread eje
Bridged or routed ?

/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Forbes Mercy 
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:06:29 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.

What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
not routed network.

The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Forbes



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Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
In that case it WAS the vendor's fault because THEY often picked out the 
config for new people.

If I recall correctly they were smacked around a bit by the FCC for selling 
known bad systems.

Either way, that problem seems to have fixed it's self.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Hogg" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!


> Hyperlink is still around... L-Com.  It's not really the vendor's fault.
> Realistically there could be applications where an amp is needed, i.e.
> long coax runs, smaller antennas, etc.  It really is up to the operator
> to make sure they are in compliance.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:40 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
> lol
>
> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>
> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
> away
> sooner than later.
>
> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with
> 15dB
> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
> are
> in business today.  It's a shame.
>
> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't
> know
> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>
> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> Marlon,
>>
>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
> Otherwise
>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting
> up
>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>> 50watts EIRP.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing
> WHO
>> to
>>
>> call.
>>
>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and
> I'd
>> drop
>>
>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>
>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They
> told
>> him
>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>
>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
> the
>> consumer complaint folks.
>>
>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that
> showed,
>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When
> the
>> good
>>
>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was
> also
>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>> complaint.
>>
>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last
> I'd
>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
> enough
>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>
>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your
> documentation
>> in
>>
>> order first.
>>
>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true
> that we
>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go
> over
>> the
>> allowable power levels.
>>
>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
> below,
>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
> get
>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>
>> ears
>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which
> also
>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's
> which
>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Lakeland" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
>>> could
>>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
>>> calling
>>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field
> office
>>> you
>>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
>>>
>>> Maybe

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Robert West
Do you have other 5GHz in that area?  Any possibility of the DFS being
triggered?

Bob-

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.

What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
not routed network.

The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Forbes




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Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Maybe others have the power to keep this in mind but a network diagram
would certainly help.

>From what I'm gathering the issue isn't a MT backhaul but rather
things at a site going up/down in weird patterns.  My first guess
would be bad switch.

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Forbes Mercy
 wrote:
> We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.
> It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each
> other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a
> Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another
> site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a
> managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.
>
> What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.
> Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since
> it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and
> C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up
> but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant
> feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This
> will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again
> for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not
> communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B
> and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any
> residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged
> not routed network.
>
> The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in
> spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens
> during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day
> user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they
> don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic
> between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to
> run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send
> people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are
> going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that
> doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
> Forbes
>
>
> 
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[WISPA] Does anybody have any ideas?

2010-03-31 Thread Forbes Mercy
We have been plagued with an ongoing issue in our Mikrotik backhauls.  
It happens about once a month and only on three radios that feed each 
other, all other sites work fine.  Site A is my head end, it is a 
Mikrotik 433 with an XR5 chip that feeds about five miles to another 
site to Site B.  Site B has the same equipment that goes through a 
managed switch then passes on to Site C about 7 miles further.

What happens is we are suddenly paged that all three are down.  
Sometimes Site A stays up, most times not, we can get into Site A since 
it's the head end and we reboot it, it comes right back up.  Site B and 
C stay down, we have to drive to Site B and reboot it, it comes back up 
but Site C stays down.  We have a remote reboot for it from a redundant 
feed so after rebooting it C reconnects to B and they are all up.  This 
will happen three or four more times in a single day or not at all again 
for a month, it's totally unpredictable. The boards are up but not 
communicating, it also takes down the other 2.4 Mikortik AP's at Site B 
and that has to be rebooted.  We normally run arp -d to clear up any 
residual, it sure appears to be traffic related and we are on a bridged 
not routed network.

The only similarities is it's only this feed, it usually happens in 
spurts of a day or two then stops for a long time, it always happens 
during the working day leading me to believe it's coming from a day 
user.  We run Wireshark but see nothing, we torch the towers and they 
don't show much unusual.  We're thinking it might be a deluge of traffic 
between Site B and C and are thinking of putting a PC at the C tower to 
run diagnostics there.  This is very manpower heavy as we have to send 
people two places and average down time is one hour to do this.  We are 
going to turn our network into a routed network this Summer but that 
doesn't help now.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Forbes



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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Gino Villarini
Don't want to get into details but the Tranzeo reputation among Wisp is "varied"

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:14 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for companies 
that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a working 
relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz CPE 
using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been through 
many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market go 
through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have no 
real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is a 
respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities here 
in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We have 
excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 dozen 
patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to creation of 
the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a WiMAX).

It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that.

Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake 
things up a bit.

And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt 
Larson to become a customer!


Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

Wow

Was Aperto in financial trouble?

This is like YDI buying Proxim

Or Ubiquity buying Motorola

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:

> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some 
> nice products for WISPs.
>
> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>
> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo 
> strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution
>
> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
> --
> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT 
>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a 
> premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication 
> systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger 
> agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto 
> shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the 
> satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly 
> incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and 
> continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>
> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes 
> a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, 
> WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase 
> orders is US
> $8.3
> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>
> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading 
> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators 
> while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet 
> service providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. 
> "With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new 
> customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will 
> start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never 
> looked better."
>
> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service 
> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and 
> Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish 
> on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the 
> market."
>
> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the 
> combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able 
> to provide.
>
> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional 
> product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support 
> team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a 
> global basis,"said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide 
> Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. "I am looking forward to serving 
> our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new 
> solutions to our channel partners."
>
> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services 
> in Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset 
> Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication 
> infrastructure provider the Ind

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions

2010-03-31 Thread David
We use mrtg/rrd to collect data transfer values from cpe. Then we use mrtg
totalizer to produce graphs that have daily and month totals.  We also have
a modified totalizer script that checks to see if that are any bandwidth
abusers because they have used more than x in the last 30 days and y in the
last 1 day and then we slow there connection down via adding queues rules in
a MikroTik router (and then disable the rules if they are behaving again).

David

> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:24 PM
> To: Mikrotik discussions; WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth Tracking Solutions
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I am looking for a solution that will keep track of the monthly
> bandwidth consumption for all of my broadband customers and am having a
> hard time coming up with a good solution.
> 
> Our goal is to collect the traffic flows every 15 minutes and generate
> three things:
> 
> 1)  Internal reports showing bandwidth consumption by customers and
> that is in a database form that we can perform queries on
> 2)  Data that can be exported to our customer portal page that will
> show customers how much bandwidth they have consumed since the first of
> each month
> 3)  A batch file showing customers over their thresholds that we
> can
> import into our billing system (Freeside) at the end of the month so we
> can bill overages
> 
> Our system is setup as follows:
> 
> 1)  StarOS access points
> 2)  OSPF backbone back to two separate 50 meg Internet backbone
> links
> 3)  Mikrotik core routers at each backbone location
> 4)  StarOS routers performing NAT at each backbone location
> 5)  Mikrotik edge routers connected to the Internet backbone
> 
> Radius accounting is not an option, due to inaccurate IP accounting
> information returned by the StarOS APs.   PPPoE is also not an option
> as
> we have 2000+ customers in place and not all of the hardware would
> easily convert to PPPoE.
> 
> Ideally, the data should be collectable at the Mikrotik core routers,
> as
> that is the place where all of the private IP traffic is still in its
> pre-NAT status.   We have been trying to keep track of it with Netflow
> data from our Mikrotik core routers, but it does not seem to be
> accurate
> and there are documented problems with the Mikrotik Netflow exports.
> We
> have confirmed that the data we have been collecting is not accurate,
> and I have no intention on billing a customer based on inaccurate data.
> 
> We have a couple of reporting engines that we have tried, with mixed
> levels of success.   I did contact Brandon Checketts about his program,
> which was close to what we wanted, but it is out of date and he was not
> responsive so our efforts are focused on either using something open
> source that we can modify or just buying an appliance that will do what
> we need.   My preference is to go open source because we have multiple
> backbone connections and also because I have several consulting
> customers who want to have similar setups put in place on their
> networks.   Also, I want to make sure that this is "revenue neutral"
> and
> can pay for for itself in the overage billing after it is installed.
> 
> We can install either a switch or a transparent bandwidth monitoring
> server of some kind between the core and NAT servers to collect the
> data
> flows.My lead tech and I are both Linux savvy, and would prefer
> something that runs on Linux.
> 
> I recall that Travis Johnson posted a description of an open source,
> linux-based system that he uses to track bandwidth, but I cannot find
> the email where he lays all of the elements out.   Does anyone have any
> recommendations for this situation?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Matt Larsen
> vistabeam.com
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Patrick Leary
The past few years have been challenging for all Gino, especially for companies 
that leverage private investment. As you may know, we have had a working 
relationship with Tranzeo for some time; they manufacture our 3.65 GHz CPE 
using our code. Over time this relationship has deepened. I have been through 
many acquisitions back from the Alvarion days and have seen the market go 
through many. This one makes more sense than most, much more sense. We have no 
real overlap in terms of products and little technical overlap. Tranzeo is a 
respected public company and has state-of-the art production capabilities here 
in North America. It has an established WISP reputation for value. We have 
excellent core technology, engineering and field teams. We have about 2 dozen 
patents on QoS and link quality and our technology was central to creation of 
the 802.16 standard in the first place (long before there was a WiMAX).

It just makes a lot of sense and the market will see that.

Plus, the market has been a bit staid recently...it needed something to shake 
things up a bit.

And finally, it maybe after all these years allows my old WISP friend Matt 
Larson to become a customer!


Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

Wow

Was Aperto in financial trouble?

This is like YDI buying Proxim

Or Ubiquity buying Motorola

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:

> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some 
> nice products for WISPs.
>
> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>
> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo 
> strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution
>
> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
> --
> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT 
>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a 
> premier manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication 
> systems, announced today it has entered into a definitive merger 
> agreement with Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto 
> shareholders. Under the terms of the merger agreement, and upon the 
> satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly 
> incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and 
> continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>
> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes 
> a complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, 
> WiMax and LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase 
> orders is US
> $8.3
> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>
> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading 
> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators 
> while still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet 
> service providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. 
> "With an established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new 
> customers now in trials, the benefits of today's announcement will 
> start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has never 
> looked better."
>
> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service 
> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and 
> Managing Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish 
> on the broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the 
> market."
>
> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the 
> combined technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able 
> to provide.
>
> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional 
> product breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support 
> team, and channels will significantly benefit our customers on a 
> global basis,"said Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide 
> Sales and Support at Aperto Networks. "I am looking forward to serving 
> our existing customers, expanding our market and providing new 
> solutions to our channel partners."
>
> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services 
> in Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset 
> Global (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication 
> infrastructure provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint 
> development agreement with Tranzeo, this will give us access to 
> additional advanced wireless technologies which we will incorporate 
> into our broadband solutions."
>
> Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through 
> issuances of common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon 
> satisfaction of the required closing conditions, Tranzeo w

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Not all buy outs mean the company is in trouble, does it?

I didn't think ATI was in trouble when AMD bought them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
> Wow
>
> Was Aperto in financial trouble?
>
> This is like YDI buying Proxim
>
> Or Ubiquity buying Motorola
>
> Sent from my Motorola Startac...
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:
>
>> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some
>> nice
>> products for WISPs.
>>
>> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>>
>> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
>> Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
>> solution
>>
>> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)
>> --
>> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
>>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a
>> premier
>> manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
>> announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
>> Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under
>> the
>> terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
>> conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated
>> subsidiary of
>> Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
>> wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>>
>> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it
>> becomes a
>> complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,
>> WiMax and
>> LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US
>> $8.3
>> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>>
>> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
>> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators
>> while
>> still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet
>> service
>> providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
>> established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers
>> now in
>> trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear
>> fruit within
>> a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."
>>
>> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
>> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and
>> Managing
>> Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
>> broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."
>>
>> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the
>> combined
>> technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to
>> provide.
>>
>> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional
>> product
>> breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,
>> and
>> channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global
>> basis,"said
>> Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at
>> Aperto
>> Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,
>> expanding
>> our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."
>>
>> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services
>> in
>> Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
>> (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication
>> infrastructure
>> provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development
>> agreement
>> with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
>> technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."
>>
>> Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through
>> issuances of
>> common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the
>> required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
>> stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration
>> amount, as
>> adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the
>> satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may
>> issue
>> additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on
>> revenues
>> attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo
>> during a
>> one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the
>> merger. These
>> earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the
>> earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume
>> weighted
>> average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five
>> trading days
>> prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement.
>>
>> The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010.
>> Completion of
>> the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions,
>> including the
>> approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchan

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Gino Villarini
Wow

Was Aperto in financial trouble?

This is like YDI buying Proxim

Or Ubiquity buying Motorola

Sent from my Motorola Startac...


On Mar 31, 2010, at 11:45 AM, "Drew Lentz"  wrote:

> Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some  
> nice
> products for WISPs.
>
> http://bit.ly/bX4HTc
>
> Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
> Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
> solution
>
> PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX)  
> --
> BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
>   1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a  
> premier
> manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
> announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
> Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under  
> the
> terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
> conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated  
> subsidiary of
> Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
> wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.
>
> The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it  
> becomes a
> complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi,  
> WiMax and
> LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US 
> $8.3
> million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.
>
> "Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
> complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators  
> while
> still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet  
> service
> providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
> established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers  
> now in
> trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear  
> fruit within
> a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."
>
> "The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
> providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and  
> Managing
> Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
> broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."
>
> Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the  
> combined
> technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to  
> provide.
>
> "Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional  
> product
> breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team,  
> and
> channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global  
> basis,"said
> Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at  
> Aperto
> Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers,  
> expanding
> our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."
>
> "This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services  
> in
> Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
> (TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication  
> infrastructure
> provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development  
> agreement
> with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
> technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."
>
> Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through  
> issuances of
> common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the
> required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
> stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration  
> amount, as
> adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the
> satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may  
> issue
> additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on  
> revenues
> attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo  
> during a
> one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the  
> merger. These
> earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the
> earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume  
> weighted
> average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five  
> trading days
> prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement.
>
> The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010.  
> Completion of
> the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions,  
> including the
> approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by  
> the
> stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required.
> Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its  
> board of
> directors on closing.
>
> The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered  
> under the
> Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any state securities laws,  
> and may
> not be offered or sold in the United States without registration or an
> applicable 

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Patrick Leary
Yes, the cat is out of the bag. We are very excited about this... 


Patrick Leary
Aperto Networks
813.426.4230 mobile

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Drew Lentz
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice 
products for WISPs.

http://bit.ly/bX4HTc

Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks Tranzeo 
strengthens its international market with complete broadband solution

PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) -- 
BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT 
  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier 
manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems, announced 
today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with Aperto Networks, 
Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under the terms of the merger 
agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing conditions, Aperto will be 
merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving 
and continuing to be operated as a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.

The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a 
complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and LTE 
products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3 million. 
This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.

"Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading complete 
solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while still supplying 
product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service providers," said Jim 
Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an established world-wide customer 
base and a pipeline of new customers now in trials, the benefits of today's 
announcement will start to bear fruit within a year. The future for Tranzeo has 
never looked better."

"The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service 
providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing 
Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the broadband 
wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."

Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined 
technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide.

"Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product 
breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and 
channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,"said Bill 
Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto 
Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding 
our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."

"This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in 
Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global (TRG), 
an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure provider the 
Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development agreement with Tranzeo, 
this will give us access to additional advanced wireless technologies which we 
will incorporate into our broadband solutions."

Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of 
common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the required 
closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the stockholders of 
Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as adjusted for 
liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the satisfaction of 
certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue additional common 
shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues attributable to certain 
products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a one-year earn-out period 
following the date of closing of the merger. These earn-out shares would be 
issued within 120 days of the expiry of the earn-out period. All share 
issuances will be based on the volume weighted average trading price of 
Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days prior to this announcement of 
the Merger Agreement.

The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of the 
merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the approval 
of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the stockholders of 
Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required.
Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of 
directors on closing.

The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered under the 
Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any state securities laws, and may not 
be offered or sold in the United States without registration or an applicable 
exemption from applicable registration requirements in the US.
This press release shall

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Extra limb alert.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill



On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples  wrote:
> Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite:
>
> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131
>
> Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors??
>
> Tom S.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> lol
>>
>> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
>> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
>> away
>> sooner than later.
>>
>> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
>> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
>> are
>> in business today.  It's a shame.
>>
>> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
>>> Otherwise
>>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>>> 50watts EIRP.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>>> to
>>>
>>> call.
>>>
>>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>>> drop
>>>
>>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>>
>>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>>> him
>>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>>
>>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
>>> the
>>> consumer complaint folks.
>>>
>>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>>> good
>>>
>>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
>>> enough
>>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>>
>>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>>> in
>>>
>>> order first.
>>>
>>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that
>>> we
>>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>>> the
>>> allowable power levels.
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
>>> below,
>>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
>>> get
>>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>>> ears
>>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> laters,
>>> marlon
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Lakeland" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>>
>>>
 Marlon,

 You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
 could
 probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
 calling
 the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
 you
 usually only get the recorded TV interference message.

 Maybe I'm just totally wrong.

 -B-



 Marlon K. Schafer writes:

> H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lakeland" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [WIS

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Tom Sharples
Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite:

http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131

Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors??

Tom S.


- Original Message - 
From: "Marlon K. Schafer" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!


> lol
>
> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go 
> away
> sooner than later.
>
> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there 
> are
> in business today.  It's a shame.
>
> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> Marlon,
>>
>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. 
>> Otherwise
>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>> 50watts EIRP.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>> to
>>
>> call.
>>
>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>> drop
>>
>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>
>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>> him
>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>
>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT 
>> the
>> consumer complaint folks.
>>
>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>> good
>>
>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>> complaint.
>>
>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far 
>> enough
>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>
>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>> in
>>
>> order first.
>>
>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that 
>> we
>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>> the
>> allowable power levels.
>>
>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well 
>> below,
>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can 
>> get
>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>> ears
>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Lakeland" 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
>>> could
>>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
>>> calling
>>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
>>> you
>>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong.
>>>
>>> -B-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>
 H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: "Lakeland" 
 To: "WISPA General List" 
 Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!


> Sorry  I side with Travis.
>
> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY,
> Philly
> and
> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and
> workforce
> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections
> that
> they are required by law to do.
>
> There is no manpo

[WISPA] Tranzeo to acquire Aperto

2010-03-31 Thread Drew Lentz
Didn't see this one coming but it looks like it could lead to some nice
products for WISPs.

http://bit.ly/bX4HTc

Canadian Company Tranzeo Wireless to Acquire Aperto Networks
Tranzeo strengthens its international market with complete broadband
solution

PITT MEADOWS, BRITISH COLUMBIA, Mar 31, 2010 (MARKETWIRE via COMTEX) --
BC-based Tranzeo Wireless Technologies Inc. (CA:TZT
  1.61, +0.04, +2.55%), a premier
manufacturer of wireless broadband and WiMAX communication systems,
announced today it has entered into a definitive merger agreement with
Aperto Networks, Inc. ("Aperto") and key Aperto shareholders. Under the
terms of the merger agreement, and upon the satisfaction of closing
conditions, Aperto will be merged into a newly incorporated subsidiary of
Tranzeo, with Aperto surviving and continuing to be operated as a
wholly-owned subsidiary of Tranzeo.

The merger will greatly increase Tranzeo's market share as it becomes a
complete end-to-end broadband solutions provider featuring WiFi, WiMax and
LTE products. Aperto's current backlog of all purchase orders is US$8.3
million. This will be added to Tranzeo's current backlog of US$32.7M.

"Acquiring Aperto immediately transforms Tranzeo into a market leading
complete solutions provider for major telecommunications operators while
still supplying product to Tranzeo's existing wireless Internet service
providers," said Jim Tocher, President and CEO of Tranzeo. "With an
established world-wide customer base and a pipeline of new customers now in
trials, the benefits of today's announcement will start to bear fruit within
a year. The future for Tranzeo has never looked better."

"The combining of Tranzeo and Aperto is a big win for wireless service
providers," said Randall Meals, Chairman of Aperto's Board and Managing
Director of Quicksilver Ventures. "We continue to be bullish on the
broadband wireless market and now Tranzeo's position in the market."

Existing Tranzeo and Aperto customers will greatly benefit from the combined
technologies and complete solutions Tranzeo will now be able to provide.

"Tranzeo's responsiveness, world-class manufacturing and additional product
breadth combined with Aperto's proven worldwide sales, support team, and
channels will significantly benefit our customers on a global basis,"said
Bill Waters, Senior Vice President of Worldwide Sales and Support at Aperto
Networks. "I am looking forward to serving our existing customers, expanding
our market and providing new solutions to our channel partners."

"This is very good news for TRG and the future of broadband services in
Indonesia," said Gatot Tetuko, President of PT. Teknologi Riset Global
(TRG), an affiliate company of leading telecommunication infrastructure
provider the Indonesian Tower Group. "With our joint development agreement
with Tranzeo, this will give us access to additional advanced wireless
technologies which we will incorporate into our broadband solutions."

Tranzeo expects to complete the acquisition of Aperto through issuances of
common shares to the stockholders of Aperto. Upon satisfaction of the
required closing conditions, Tranzeo will issue common shares to the
stockholders of Aperto based on a US$5 million base consideration amount, as
adjusted for liabilities and cash of Aperto at closing. Subject to the
satisfaction of certain additional earn-out conditions, Tranzeo may issue
additional common shares to the stockholders of Aperto based on revenues
attributable to certain products of Aperto that are sold by Tranzeo during a
one-year earn-out period following the date of closing of the merger. These
earn-out shares would be issued within 120 days of the expiry of the
earn-out period. All share issuances will be based on the volume weighted
average trading price of Tranzeo's common shares for the five trading days
prior to this announcement of the Merger Agreement.

The merger is anticipated to be completed in mid-April 2010. Completion of
the merger will be subject to customary closing conditions, including the
approval of the proposed merger by the Toronto Stock Exchange and by the
stockholders of Aperto. Tranzeo stockholder approval is not required.
Tranzeo has agreed to appoint a representative of Aperto to its board of
directors on closing.

The common shares proposed to be issued have not been registered under the
Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or any state securities laws, and may
not be offered or sold in the United States without registration or an
applicable exemption from applicable registration requirements in the US.
This press release shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation
of an offer to buy nor shall there be any sale of the securities in any
jurisdiction in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful.

Tranzeo and the Tranzeo logo are registered trademarks of Tranzeo Wireless
Technologies Inc.





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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

2010-03-31 Thread Robert West
Electrically.

:)

Had to.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 8:26 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

Ok, dumb question time. How does electrical downtilt work on an omni?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:50 PM
To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle

Electrical down tilt helps for that kind of installation.

On 3/30/10, Scottie Arnett  wrote:
> As a rule of thumb, as the dB gets higher(or smaller in negative
speak) in
> an antenna, the beam width of the opposing polarity of the antenna
gets
> smaller, and thus harder to work with.
>
> As an example, I have used 15dB Omni's in 2.4Ghz(I'll leave the brand
> unannounced). I first put them about 60 feet in the air and found that
I
> could not get a good usable signal unless I was about 2 miles or so
from the
> tower. I dropped them to 20 - 25 feet and picked up clients within .25
miles
> out to a couple of miles. The horizontal beam width on the Omni was so
> small, I was way overshooting my intended target.
>
> Lesson learned was to always look at both vert and horiz beam width,
and
> lesson learned on the 15dB Omni is to only use in trailer parks, very
small
> subdivisions, and RV parks... and ... to not mount it above 30 feet
high.
>
> Scottie
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Robert West" 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:41:21 -0400
>
>>Well, I've been setting up a service contract with my friends on
planet
>>Wispalon so I need to find the proper tilt angle to beam the signal
into
>>space.  :)
>>
>>Yeah, I've been mindful to stay off the horizon, seems wasteful in a
big
>>way.  I'm not a trig scholar so I use basic tilt angle calculators
which
>>have never failed me but these things have me upside down.  Tower
height,
>>distance desired and all are good to have but I was really interested
in
>>others experiences with them and how they have been able to get their
>>angles.  Again, the smaller, lower gain sectors have been right on the
>> money
>>but I wasn't aware (ignorant) that these high gain units would give me
a
>>smaller slice to work with.  On the advice of another member I have
been
>>trying one AP with 4 120 degree 19dbi sectors used as 90's.  Signal is
>> great
>>where we can see it, just needed a good fix for not having to do the 2
man
>>show all over the county.  (With everyone in a pickup truck stopping
to ask
>>why we're by the road with an antenna)
>>
>>Bob-
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>>Behalf Of Lawrence E. Bakst
>>Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:50 PM
>>To: WISPA General List
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Sector Tilt angle
>>
>>Technically speaking you're wrong. The highest gain area of a sector
>> antenna
>>is the center point between the horizontal and vertical spreads. If
you
>>don't downtilt you are sending the strongest part of the signal
parallel to
>>the horizon. Why would you ever want to do that? The whole reason you
>>downtilt is to get the strongest signal pointed to the area you want.
>>
>>Figuring this out takes some basic trig calcs using the tangent
function.
>>
>>No one has asked the most important questions you need to know when
>>calculating downtilt:
>>
>>1. How high up is the sector antenna?
>>
>>2. How far out or in what range near to far do you want the sweet
spot?
>>
>>3. How close in to the tower do you need service?
>>
>>#2 and #3 can conflict with each other and you may have to make a
tradeoff.
>>
>>leb
>>
>>At 2:22 PM -0400 3/29/10, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>>>. Technically speaking.. if you are not concerned about dealing
with
>>>'near' customers less than 1 or 2 miles... then you can pretty
much
>>>leave the sectors at '0' tilt.. and you have coverage to the
horizon
>>>
>>>The built-in electrical down-tilt typically throws folks off..
only
>>>becomes a factor if you are needing to down tilt for near customers..
>>>
>>>Faisal.
>>>
>>>On 3/29/2010 1:36 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I'm having a heck of a time with the large UBNT sectors getting the
tilt
 angle to jive.  With the smaller sectors, they behave perfectly and
go
>>right
 where the calculations say they will however, with the larger ones,
>>nothing
 I do other than have someone 10 miles out with a CPE check levels
while
 I
 tilt up and down seems to be good.  I REALLY don't want to have to
do
>>that
 with all of them...



 Anyone having any success or insight with the proper tilt of these
>>things?
 Using the 120 degree 5GHz flavors.



 Thanks!



 Robert West

 Just Micro Digita

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Marco Coelho
If they are operating illegally, a quick way to get them shut down is
to contact the owner of the tower they are on next to yours.  I
recommend a verbal phone call informing them of the situation
including all documentation via e-mail.  I would follow it with a
certified letter.

Most tower operators / owners do not want to be involved with
lawsuits.  Almost all tower contracts provide the operator a stick to
beat the bad tenant with.

You can simultaneously go for a civil lawsuit under tortuous
interference.  Under TR you are able to get Treble Damages (a good
thing to note in your letters).



Marco Coelho
Argon Technologies Inc.



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Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Cameron Crum
Can't say how many times I posted on different lists warning about "15 
dBi" omnis. It is next to impossible to make a 15 dBi omni with any 
usable elevation beamwidth at all - electrical downtilt or not. 12 dBi 
is pretty much the maximum and at that you will be lucky to see anything 
over a degree on the elevation pattern. Having been in the antenna 
business before and with a partner who made a career out of designing 
antennas, I can tell you that we would never use an omni greater than 10 
dBi for any application.

On 3/31/2010 8:39 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> lol
>
> Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones
> that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go away
> sooner than later.
>
> Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB
> omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there are
> in business today.  It's a shame.
>
> But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't know
> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a
> week than see a company fail due to bad advice.
>
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
> To: "'WISPA General List'"
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>
>> Marlon,
>>
>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. Otherwise
>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up
>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
>> 50watts EIRP.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO
>> to
>>
>> call.
>>
>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and I'd
>> drop
>>
>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>>
>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They told
>> him
>> that there was nothing they could do.
>>
>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT the
>> consumer complaint folks.
>>
>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed,
>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When the
>> good
>>
>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was also
>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
>> complaint.
>>
>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd
>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far enough
>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>>
>> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your documentation
>> in
>>
>> order first.
>>
>> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true that we
>> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go over
>> the
>> allowable power levels.
>>
>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well below,
>> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
>> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can get
>> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better
>> ears
>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also
>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which
>> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> laters,
>> marlon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Lakeland"
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>>
>>
>>  
>>> Marlon,
>>>
>>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
>>> could
>>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
>>> calling
>>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office
>>> you
>>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong.
>>>
>>> -B-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>>
>>>
 H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: "Lakeland"
 To: "WISPA General List"
 Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!


  
> Sorry  I side with Travis.
>
> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY,
> Philly
> and
> DC and I know with the tre

Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

2010-03-31 Thread Chuck Hogg
Hyperlink is still around... L-Com.  It's not really the vendor's fault.
Realistically there could be applications where an amp is needed, i.e.
long coax runs, smaller antennas, etc.  It really is up to the operator
to make sure they are in compliance.

Regards,
Chuck Hogg
Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
ch...@shelbybb.com
http://www.shelbybb.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!

lol

Yeah, it sucks.  Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones

that we should all avoid like the plague.  Then BOTH companies would go
away 
sooner than later.

Anyone remember Hyperlink?  They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with
15dB 
omni antennas.  Those guys put more operators out of business than there
are 
in business today.  It's a shame.

But hey, that's what these lists are for.  ASK QUESTIONS!  Don't
know 
about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a

week than see a company fail due to bad advice.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!


> Marlon,
>
> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP.
Otherwise
> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting
up
> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over
> 50watts EIRP.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
> I get what you are saying Bob.  But sometimes it's more about knowing
WHO 
> to
>
> call.
>
> I just had a guy call with a similar problem.  You all know him and
I'd 
> drop
>
> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator.
>
> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place.  They
told 
> him
> that there was nothing they could do.
>
> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT
the
> consumer complaint folks.
>
> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that
showed,
> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his.  When
the 
> good
>
> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days.  He was
also
> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the
> complaint.
>
> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last
I'd
> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint.  Perhaps it's far
enough
> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more.
>
> 1-800-call-fcc  Ask for ENFORCEMENT.  You need to have your
documentation 
> in
>
> order first.
>
> It's true that we all have to accept interference.  It's also true
that we
> can't CAUSE it maliciously.  They also have a hissy fit when we go
over 
> the
> allowable power levels.
>
> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well
below,
> legal levels.  They tend to work better that way anyhow.  Use bigger
> antennas not more power.  Range and reliability is about SNR.  You can
get
> that in two ways.  More power is one.  Better ears is another.  Better

> ears
> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which
also
> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's
which
> means less interference etc. etc. etc.
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lakeland" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?!
>
>
>> Marlon,
>>
>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating.  I have contacts too and
>> could
>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp
>> calling
>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field
office 
>> you
>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message.
>>
>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong.
>>
>> -B-
>>
>>
>>
>> Marlon K. Schafer writes:
>>
>>> H, I've had much better luck that than Bob.
>>>
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Lakeland" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love
it?!
>>>
>>>
 Sorry  I side with Travis.

 I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, 
 Philly
 and
 DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and
 workforce
 they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV
inspections
 tha

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