Hi Erik,
I do not have enough personal experience with these to provide a
suggested guideline based on my own empirical results. Other readers of
this thread may have that knowledge or know of references.
I suspect that if one does not abuse their cells, and if the cells are all
in good shape to
FYI:
KX3 kit serial #614 was waiting for me when I got home from work this
afternoon.
R eference order# 2208-4840-8929
Confirmed on Dec 12/28/11 8:40 AM
The bench is ready for the build, and the Buddipole is ready for the results.
73,
Phil, WA7URV
Sherwood, Oregon, USA
NaP3 is not the only software required with LP-Pan. Most installations
require LP-Bridge or some other software port sharing package to allow
both NaP3 and a logging program to "share" control of the K3.
Several logging packages fail to work properly with LP-Bridge to the
point that their develo
JP wrote: All battery packs, regardless of chemistry, benefit from a
periodic balance/equalize charge.
Do you have any specific recommendation on how often one needs to take out
the NiMH batteries to balance them?
The KX3 battery holders are very solid (good) but I find it difficult to
remove
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> ...LP-Pan/NaP3 is very computer intensive...
==
On my 2009-vintage Asus laptop, running LP-Bridge and LP-Pan increases CPU
usage by about 15 percentage points. With MixW2 and VE7CC running and a web
browser open, total CPU lo
Phil and all,
Yes, for diversity receive, the filters should be matched. In theory,
the 8 pole filters should have zero offset, but in practice, they may
have a small bit of an offset. The answer is to "compromise" - if you
hear a WOW-WOW sound while listening to diversity, you should change
Hi Ed,
Terminology can be a tricky thing! So can the specifics of different
battery types and how to charge them. You raise a number of excellent
questions.
In order to assist other readers who may not be as familiar with the topic,
and to assure I am being clear, I will go in to some detail.
--
Here's the direct link:
http://www.telepostinc.com/P3_comp.html
It's there plain as day about 1/3 of the way down the main LP-Pan
page: http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
Note - the comparison is between LP-Pan with NaP3 software and P3SVGA.
LP-Pan/NaP3 is very computer intensive (Power
My understanding is that diversity receive works best with matched receiver
topologies. Should the subRx have the same filter array as the main Rx
(bandwidths and types)? If the main Rx has 8-pole 2.8, 1.8 and 0.4 kHz
filters, should the subRx mimic that? Thank you for the enlightenment.
73,
Ph
Could you give us the URL for the comparison. I've been on the page, but I
can't find it. Thanks and 73, Guy.
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Ignacy wrote:
> N8LP on his website has a very comprehensive and IMHO honest comparison of
> P3
> and LP-PAN.
>
> In snapshot, if you are strained on ca
And for most operations 8 pole filters are not required.
Ron AC7AC
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Hi Mike,
You are right! I should have read the manual before posting ;-)
It is important to consider the filters needed for the subRX - 8-pole
filters are not inexpensive.
I hope to have both somed
Hi,
I have for sale a "Jumbo 240DX" HF amplifier with Rx RF amp stage. It
is in its original box. I just tested it on 10m (45watts out)through
160m (80w output) with 4.5watts drive. It says that it will do 240w PEP
output at max drive. I am also including a filter board from a TS 440S.
Thi
Bruce,
There is nothing overtly associated with the selection of FL3 that
*should* cause a lockup. The way the bandwidth is controlled is to vary
the voltage of the XFIL/TONE signal from the D/A converter - front panel
U2 and apply it to the varactors connected to the filter crystals.
I suspe
Hi Mike,
You are right! I should have read the manual before posting ;-)
It is important to consider the filters needed for the subRX - 8-pole
filters are not inexpensive.
I hope to have both someday, but for now am very happy with my P3 and KPA500
(and KAT500 on order...).
-
Brian, op K1
Definitely believes it makes a huge difference on 6m. I use it with the
internal preamp as well as without it. Now that I have it I wouldn't be without
it.
Keith
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I had the same question over a year ago and received the following replies:
http://www.ae5x.com/blog/2010/09/05/the-most-beneficial-k3-upgrade-panadapter-or-sub-reciever/?trashed=1&ids=1987
I've still not added either but after operating the K3 much as you do, there is
no longer any question in m
Hi Brian,
Use of a sub RX does not require a second antenna. I've been using a sub RX
to chase split DX since 1991 with one antenna. The only time a second
antenna is necessary is if you want to use diversity reception or possibly
for some cross band activity.
Conversely, a sub RX is not require
Robert,
I have both the subRX and the panadapter, and I love and use both a lot.
But if I had to choose between one or the other, I would definitely
recommend the P3. I use the P3 all the time -- it is a revolutionary new
way to interface with the radio. I just used it a moment ago to break a
I'm a certified (or certifiable?) O.T. who has been haunting the Ham bands
for over half a century, content to listen intently for signals while slowly
cranking the main tuning knob. Panadapters have been around a long time, but
I always thought "Huh! Who needs that sort of gadget?"
Then came the
Robert,
The Perseus SDR, which uses a computer for display and control purposes,
performs very well as a panadapter, also as a multi mode receiver which
covers 10 kHz to 40 MHz
The maximum span which can be displayed is 1600 kHz, and the minimum span is
800 Hz. The resolution bandwidth is sta
I have both with my K3. If I could have only one, it would definitely be the
P3. The sub RX is great for diversity receive which helps a lot in CW
contesting. But the P3, as other have pointed out, lets you quickly find where
to place your signal when trying to find a good run frequency. For
I'd agree. I never had either in the past and now I'm constantly looking
at the P3 and I do use the sub-receiver but don't turn it on every time
I'm on. The panadapter tells me when the band is dead, when my antenna
is tuned properly (I have a magnetic loop that needs to be tuned all the
time), whe
I thought this through and chose the P3. The subRX requires a second antenna
- which I did not have - and the matching filters, so it is not just the
receiver alone. The P3 does everything the others have mentioned, and as one
responder said - you will end up using it all the time if you work DX sp
Hi Robert,
I have the sub RX and the P3 and I would not want to be without either,
however, if I were trying to save money on an initial purchase I would buy
the P3. The P3 is easy to use and is useful at all times under all
conditions. The large screen SVGA option which I also have is nice but
ce
Hi all,
I know that this topic has more or less gone its way, but I just got a
chance to try this out during the past weekend.
I hadn't had much luck with decoding CW on the K3--usually a bunch of
asterisks and "E"s and nothing else. However, I got new 700Hz filters a week
ago or so an
On 7/2/2012 10:50 AM, Robert G. Strickland wrote:
> Yes, I can have them both in my K3, but if I had
> to choose, which one would seem preferable?
It would be a very tough choice. The panadapter provides a "50,000
foot view" ... I can be chasing one pile-up or working JT-65 on 6
meters and see
OK, folks.
Time to put on your thinking caps...
I just purchased a used K1. Has NB, ATU and 4 band board, set for
7/10.1/14/21 MHz. All appears to be operating normally, except...
When cycling through the crystal filter bandwidths from FL1-FL3, once FL3 is
reached, all buttons become unresponsive.
I also had a situation where I was getting a string of dahs in the middle
of transmission. At first I thought it may have been a sticky KXPD3 set
too tight, but then the same thing happened using an external Begali
paddle. The adhoc antenna feedline situation I was using was, let's just
say, not i
Steve,
Is this a separate KIO2 option, or are you referring to the RS-232
function on the KPA100?
If it is the KIO2 option, I can give you some tests that can be used
with DC signals and a DMM - unfortunately the same scheme does not work
with the KPA100, and the easiest way to troubleshoot it
Robert,
Work DX? Work Split? 2nd receiver hands down
would be my choice.
Had a P3 here for over a year and finally sold it.
Too confusing and too distracting. No regrets
either. Screens, HF radios and me don't mix.
K3 2nd receiver makes working split so easy its
almost criminal.
Use the VE
Hi Robert,
Having never used a panadapter until working at Elecraft, I can honestly say
that I can't imagine having a station without one. With a P3 (or LP-Pan for
that matter) I can literally see the band at a glance. One of the really
nice features is the history or waterfall, which allows you
I just purchased a KPA100 from someone on the list and got it installed and
working fine, but I can't seem to get the KI02 going. I'm using a Mac and
Aether software. I set everything correctly in the software and nothing. I
tried Mac logger deluxe and the same result. Checked the KUSB cable tha
Hi Peter
Yes, I believe it's a must to work dx on 6 meters. I think K3 is a bit deaf
without it.
EA3AKY
http://ea3aky.blogspot.com/
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De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
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Enviado el: lunes, 02 de j
ABSOLUTELY GET THE PREAMP! The K3 is a great radio but it is USUALLY hard of
hearing on 6m without it. With the preamp, it is one of the best radios
possible for
6m. I have very successfully used it on 6m EME DXpeditions to E51, 3D2 and
5W0. GL
and VY 73, Lance
On 7/2/2012 8:23 PM, Pete
Excellent performnce ... worth the investment!
73!
Ken Kopp - K0PP
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Peter Chamalian wrote:
> Being new to 6 meters, I'm wondering if the investment in the K3PR6 is worth
> it.
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Being new to 6 meters, I'm wondering if the investment in the K3PR6 is worth
it.
I'm using an Innova 5 element LPA VR at 85 feet fed with hard line with the
last 20 or so feet with Buryflex so the loss is pretty minimal.
If you have experience with the K3PR6 Preamp, I'd appreciate your co
Hi
I would like to know if someone have on sale the Elecraft KFL3A-1.8K 1.8
kHz, 8-pole please let me know. 73
Alfredo WP3C
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Standby for incoming, Robert.:-) My suggestion: Your K3 has two VFO's
and will run them split. That's what you need for DX. Without the
subRx, you have to press and hold the REV button to listen on your TX
freq on VFO B in SPLIT. It reverts to VFO A when you let go. With the
subRx, you ca
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Robert G. Strickland wrote:
> ...I use CW almost exclusively, and I chase DX..
==
Well, Bob, if you chase DX on CW you will get a major boost out of the 2nd
receiver. Once you have worked the easy ones, you'll find that just about
every new one you'll need
On 7/2/2012 12:19 PM, kf4clo wrote:
> I am running psk31 with my k3 hooked up line in to line out,line
> out to line in-keying it with vox. I'm wondering if I can use this same set
> up With Fldigi or mmtty without having to change the way I key the k3.
No problem -- it will work just fine. I do
On 7/2/2012 10:50 AM, Robert G. Strickland wrote:
> Yes, I can have them both in my K3, but if I had
> to choose, which one would seem preferable?
I'm mainly a contester, but I work some DX, digital modes on 160M, and
all modes on 6M. I use the P3 a LOT more than I use the second RX.
For DX, you
N8LP on his website has a very comprehensive and IMHO honest comparison of P3
and LP-PAN.
In snapshot, if you are strained on cash, good in computers, and occasional
software problems are not an issue, use LP-PAN.
If reliability and ability to change parameters fast via buttons are more
importan
Frank-kf4clo
Hi everyone,I am running psk31 with my k3 hooked up line in to line out,line
out to line in-keying it with vox. I'm wondering if I can use this same set
up With Fldigi or mmtty without having to change the way I key the k3. I
like digipan but would like to try something elce if I don
Well, this is entirely subjective. Both can be useful, but I think the
subRX would be the more useful addition.
73,
Scott, N9AA
On 7/2/12 1:50 PM, Robert G. Strickland wrote:
> I have never used either a panadapter or a sub-receiver, so I'm a newbie
> in this area. I use CW almost exclusively,
I opted for the P3 first as i don't have a trained ear, but I can see what's
on the screen. Most will disagree but I still like viewing the band and
seeing what is going on.
...bill nr4c
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From: "Robert G. Strickland"
To: Elecra
In another post I ask about sub-receiver versus panadapter. Here, a
question about type of panadapter. My station occupies a very small
space, and adding the P3 would strain the real estate. So, I've been
looking at other panadapter possibilities that use the computer screen
for display. What s
I have never used either a panadapter or a sub-receiver, so I'm a newbie
in this area. I use CW almost exclusively, and I chase DX and enter
contests [less so in the past, more in the future]. I have a "small
pistol" station with no allusions of being a band master. Question:
which of these two
Not exactly sure what "balancing" means but suspect this is the same
as equalizing charge. I have used solar charge controllers at remote
sites for two panels charging two batteries and do not recall any
equalizing function in them. The Buddipole appears to be a simple
current regulator. It
Hi all,
I was unable to read email for the past three days. I understand that Eric and
others have been off-line as well. Looks like the server is back, but it'll
take awhile for us to get caught up.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
http://www.elecraft.com
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Had the same experiences with the keyer paddle KXPD3 ... a bit too much tension
( which is not adjustable except by surgery ) and the spacing is kinda tricky (
wound up having it wider than I like ). I also like a slightly wider paddle
footprint ( someone suggested gluing/sticking something on t
Hi Mike; I had the same problem a number of months ago and it was so
frustrating I finally removed the sub rcvr and sent it off to Aptos. The
guys there were very helpful as always but it came back with a perfectly
clean bill of health as they could find nothing wrong with it.
This was after I ha
I have the same issues with my KXPD3. With maybe 100-125 CW qsos logged
using the KX3 and KXPD3 I have now accepted the fact that I must
compromise and use a more coarse paddle adjustment. I have also had
issues with random dropping of the first "dah", which is further
complicated when a "dah" is
If you read the KX3 Errata sheet (should have been supplied with the
radio) on the web site, you'll note that several functions described in
the manual are not availble as yet. And "NR" is among those.
And, I agree with you on the paddles. Neat, but I can't get them
adjusted like I would norm
Anyone have a built or kit they want to sell?
Steve
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Sudbury, VT
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Sid,
If you read the errata you will find that NR is not yet implemented.
"some form of DSP installed" -- yes, the KX3 is most *all* DSP - all the
modulation, demodulation and filtering is in DSP code (the "number soup"
as some would say).
73,
Don W3FPR
On 7/2/2012 10:51 AM, Sid Leben wrote:
Hello Sid!
> ...As I understand it, there is some form of DSP installed. When I invoke
> "NR" the screen reads "tbd" I assume that more is to come, as there are no
> levels to adjust as in the K3.
The radio is entirely based on digital signal processing (DSP). I
understand that many people
Yes, there is extensive DSP in this radio. However, the NR is not yet
implemented. Check the user manual errata (KX3 Owner's Manual Errata Rev
B4-1 - June 1, 2012) on the Elecraft web site for details on firmware
enhancements still to come. For example, the NB, though implemented can
only be set on
There was a config error in the Sub filter setup. I have a 2.7 filter
in slot 2 and 400 in slot 4. Those were setup correctly. The Sub also
thought I had a 2.7 in FL1. Changed that and the receiver came to life.
Obviously the other issue was that I had decided, for reasons still
unknown to me
I went ahead and ordered the internal charger so that I have the clock and
so that I can keep a set of Eneloop XX batteries healthy inside the radio
for ultralight operations. I, too, am interested in solar charging of my
LiFePO4 packs.
If one feeds raw solar panel power to a battery, then things
Sid,
Regarding your KXPD3, I have had similar experiences. I, too, prefer
small gap spacing and also had the same experiences that you did
regarding a string of dits or dahs. I may be imagining this, but I
think it may have to do with thermal expansion / contraction of the
metal component
Just finished the ATU module for the KX1. Relays all work and swr into the
DL1 is r 1.0 on all bands. Power output though is limited to about 2 watts
per the display. Minus the the ATU, the W1 says I am getting 3 watts into
the DL1 on all bands except 80M where it is 4 watts. Regulated bench
Hi Mike,
I now have my macro working, but I don't know why.
The only difference is that instead of assigning to M1H SET,
I followed your example and assigned it to M1T SET.
It would appear that there is some conflict between a function key Hold
and a function that uses Hold. Assigning to Tap make
I received my KX3 a few days ago & we are getting acquainted. Similar to my
K3, but not the same..
I downloaded the newest Beta, 1.06.
As I understand it, there is some form of DSP installed. When I invoke "NR"
the screen reads "tbd" I assume that more is to come, as there are no levels
to ad
Also check the external cable to the radio. When I replaced my FT1000 with a
K3 (best move in the ham shack ever ... but I gotta say the FT1000 served me
well for 20 years), the the short section of cable from the external rx
antenna switch box to the K3 went bad. I took the K3 apart first thin
Hi Stewart,
Your macro works here. You probably missed one step. First I entered you
macro in the K3 Utility on the Macro tab. I pressed the Edit Macros button
and typed it into the field for Macro 8. Next I hit the button labeled
"Write Macros 1-8 to K3". Then I hit Save and quit the Utility prog
Thread Closed - due to drift into unfriendly interchange.
Gentlemen - when a discussion degrades into personal accusations about
who did, or did not say something, you are well outside of the list
guidelines. It is not appropriate on this list to be rude or to argue in
this manner. Is also inc
I saw that someone else suggested checking all the cabling. Good idea.
Also, press the "A>B" switch twice quickly (should see "A>B ALL" in VFO
B window) to make sure both main and sub are on same freq, filters etc.
Oh, yeah, lyou DID turn ON the Sub-rec'ver. Didn't you?
Let's see, check inter
Stan,
The Noise Blanker is only effective on fast rise time noise pulses -
like automotive ignition noise. It will do nothing to reduce noises
like atmospheric noise or powerline noise.
If you want to test it, remove the antenna, turn on the preamp and tap a
screwdriver on Q22. You will have
Hi Mike,
Is it dead-dead or do you get audio noise when turning the audio/rf
gain. If it is dead-dead it might be the l-mix-r setting to a-a or
something other than a-b.
Also, if you have SPKRS=2 and are listening with the internal speaker
you get the main audio only.
Hope you find it.
Cheers,
Fred
The following macro runs OK from the K3 Utility program,
but not when assigned to a function key - why ?
TUNEONMN019;MP001;MN255;SWH16;
73
Stewart G3RXQ
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Hi Mike,
This question comes up quite often on the reflector and it is usually
incorrect antenna selection as others have commented. But there are also
several other things that could be amiss. You could have the RF gain for the
sub turned down. It's the outer ring on the RF gain knob. Assuming th
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