Re: [PSES] Cd exemption for art material

utor to an environmental issue, and not just the "definitive" "if it can then it will cause a real problem" approach. Might be a pity that the powers-that-be behind ROHS/ROHS2 did not take a similar approach? John Allen W. London, UK. -Original Mess

Re: [PSES] 3 phase 408V in EU and Emissions Classification

ail in the "Application guide to the European Standard EN 50160 on voltage characteristics of Electricity supplied by public distribution systems" issued by EUROELECTRIC - the Union of the Electricity Industry (doc no 23002Ren9530). Regards John Allen W.London, UK (PS: whilst not pa

Re: [PSES] 3 phase 408V in EU and Emissions Classification

throughout a building. John Allen W.London, UK From: Doug Nix [mailto:d...@ieee.org] Sent: 19 November 2015 16:28 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 3 phase 408V in EU and Emissions Classification Carl, An apartment complex is a shared low-voltage distribution

Re: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU

the design and manufacture. John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Ted Eckert [mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com] Sent: 30 November 2015 18:27 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New LV Directive 2014/35/EU A color photograph has been a requirement of the Toy

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

Rich Might that be a result of a classic case of the FCC/IC position of specifying emissions but not immunity limits (presumably the Yachtboy is/was aimed at the European market which does have immunity requirements? John Allen W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

ifically intended for "totally heavy industrial machinery/installations" should be Class A - and "everything else" should be Class B. John Allen W.London, UK From: Ronald Pickard [mailto:ronald.pick...@compoundphotonics.com] Sent: 08 December 2015 19:32 To: EMC-

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

t was then! "Informed" opinions on the above would be interesting! John Allen W.London, UK From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 08 December 2015 22:41 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment On the issue

Re: [PSES] EN55032 definition of residential environment

ss A ITE in a "sensitive" installation should then have rang "alarm bells" even before it was operated. Therefore the hospital management failed to meet their legal EMCD requirements, as well as a failure of a general duty-of-care to their patients! John Allen W.London, UK

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

"covered". Presumably, however, the IEC Committees will (or should be!) working on a suitable "Part XX" to 62368 - so does anyone have leads on that? John Allen W.London, UK From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 17:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IE

Re: [PSES] Outdoor Bluetooth speakers

Charlie That would be my reaction as well - which is why I would expect AV specialists to question its application to their kit, and why the 62368-1 Scope needs clarification. John Allen From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 22 December 2015 17:58 To: John

[PSES] Class 1 Div 1 Small Motor

Hi, Does anyone know who has small motors that can pass Class 1 Div 1?? Current motor is 12Vdc, 8Amp Thanks, John jral...@productsafetyinc.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc disc

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce?

compliance people outside their sector! John Allen W.London, UK From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 January 2016 06:54 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce? In generic terms Compliance is

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce?

last 10 years or so – they affected me, and many others like some of you guys. John Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 17 January 2016 08:28 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complia nce

[PSES] US CPSC "Consumer Products Safety Robot"

s accessible via the CPSC's website at https://business.cpsc.gov/robot/ Might help non-consumer product suppliers as well, but I don't know as I have not checked it out myself as yet - comments from interested people w

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC compliance?

p; regs. Unfortunately very few of the companies I worked for after that were as ethical or diligent. L John Allen W.London, UK From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: 17 January 2016 16:10 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enoug

Re: [PSES] Is your company doing enough to ensure adequate EMC complain nce?

ives, whereas as the US approach seems to positively encourage/require strict compliance to the relevant stds. Maybe that’s why they might be considered stultifying and/or a restraint of trade? John Allen W.London, UK From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 17 January 2016 16:20 To:

Re: [PSES] Fwd: [PSES] Current probe for CM currents

Glen Wallis at Wurth - so if anyone can get to one of his presentations,, or even get the Notes, I can recommend it. Also, it was an extremely good Seminar overall! John Allen W.London, UK From: Richard Marshall [mailto:richard.marshal...@btinternet.com] Sent: 19 January 2016 11:24 To

Re: [PSES] IP camera for outdoor use in Europe

Ron The Product Liability Directive applies regardless of whichever other Directives do/do not apply (except those relating to foods and agricultural products IIRC)! (similar in the States I think, although the timescales and penalties are substantially different) John Allen W.London, UK

[PSES] Marine Equipment for CE

Equipment would be appreciated. Best Regards, John Allen - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are

Re: [PSES] Marine Equipment for CE

ntal conditions. - One standard that does seem to come up a lot is IEC/EN 60945 "Maritime navigation and radiocommunication equipment and systems - General requirements - Methods of testing and required test results" John Allen W.London, UK From: John Allen [mailto:jra

Re: [PSES] Marine Equipment for CE

Thanks guys!! John also confirmed several IEC Standards. Most seem to be geared toward Radiocommunications, distress and safety systems. It's new to me as well. When I learn more I'll share. ____ From: John Allen Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016

Re: [PSES] Marine Equipment for CE

thank you, very helpful information!! John From: Amund Westin Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 11:24 AM To: John Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] Marine Equipment for CE Important standards for Wheel marking: · IEC/EN 60945 (as

Re: [PSES] Non-rewirable mains plug

UK Plug & Socket Regulations specify that consumer-type products be supplied with a BS1363-compliant plug or plug converter - but no requirement for moulding on, thus wirable plugs are occasionally used and still available to buy in shops (or at least some shops). John Allen W.London

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

d I would either ask for "clarification" from the NTRL or just walk away to some other NTRL after confirming that they would not be doing the same thing (might consider a slight uplift for covering multiple products, but only by prior agreement! John Allen W.London, UK -

Re: [PSES] NRTL invoices

don't issue stop shipment/variation notices, where they should have - and they reflect very badly on the NTRLs which employ them. So what "qualifications" (etc.) are the NRTLs required to ensure that their auditors have? John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message--

Re: [PSES] Will the ECJ end the New Approach?

! John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 18 March 2016 20:49 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Will the ECJ end the New Approach? People more familiar with the Brussels mime and actor troupe nee

[PSES] Will the ECJ end the New Approach?

-8-view%7Ediscussion& trkEmail=eml-b2_anet_digest_of_digests-hero-8-view%7Ediscussion-null-2duycr% 7Eilw3a73u%7El5> &trk=eml-b2_anet_digest_of_digests-hero-8-view%7Ediscussion&trkEmail=eml-b2_ anet_digest_of_digests-hero-8-view%7Ediscussion-null-2duycr%7Eilw3a73u%7El5 Jo

Re: [PSES] test message

John Received here. John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 18 March 2016 17:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] test message Test message. I'm still not seeing any of my posts reflected back to me. Are

Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS

I.E. Richard, Kevin and I pretty much agree on the important criteria (and I’m “only” a “Brit” J). John Allen W.London, UK From: Kevin Robinson [mailto:kevinrobinso...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 March 2016 20:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a

Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS

is actually even possible without sending it back to the manufacturer) - after all, how is any AHJ/FUS inspector then to know if the unit is actually brand new or if it is "used"? John Allen W.London, UK From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sen

Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a re-sold UPS

the equipment complies with the as-shipped/certified build state, or NOT. John Allen W. London, UK -Original Message- From: John R Merrill [mailto:john.merr...@schneider-electric.com] Sent: 17 March 2016 20:39 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] UL Certification status of a

Re: [PSES] Will the ECJ end the New Approach?

John Thanks - the "real" article is at https://cemarking.net/future-ce-markings-regulatory-system-in-danger/ Sorry about that. John Allen W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 18 March 2016 19:30 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.O

Re: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

the “harm”/” how bad” V “probabily”/”how often “ the “incident(s)” are considered to occur. John Allen W.London, UK Therefore, provided that the p From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 31 March 2016 21:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU's new app

Re: [PSES] "For indoor use only" on External Power Supply

release it to the market? Personally, I don’t think that is realistically possible, and therefore – as we have discussed before – the only likely solution is the risk assessment/ risk reduction approach. Over to you all J! John Allen W.London, UK From: Nyffenegger, Dave

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

ones to apply, whereas they are really just highlighted lists of those considered "most likely" to apply! Therefore don't just pluck out an RA process "out of the air" and try to apply it immediately as it appears to be written, but first try to become familiar/&quo

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

of info around the World) John Allen W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 12 April 2016 18:49 To: 'John Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions ". hopefully involving so

Re: [PSES] SV [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions

[PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions Based on your question, your best bet would be to read ISO 12100 Gary L. Swale Charles Machine Works Product Safety & Compliance 580-572-2448 (office) 580-370-5966 (cell) From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: W

[PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

Hi guys, I'm hoping to feedback and clarification if I'm reading the Machinery Directive correctly. The product is a Pulley Block with a brake/ratchet mechanism. It is not supplied with the rope. It is used for lifting machinery, not people. We believe this to be partly completed machiner

Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

artly Completed Machinery. Thank you! From: Nyffenegger, Dave Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:15 PM To: John Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Partly Completed Machinery...or not??? Well for sure Partly Completed machinery is not to bear the CE

[PSES] User Name change request to the Administrators?

Good morning I am John Allen in the UK but there is also another John Allen in the US - and we both show as having the same User Name in our posts, but this can be confusing to both ourselves and other posters. Therefore, is there a way that one of the Administrators to make a change to

Re: [PSES] User Name change request to the Administrators?

Hi, I'm John Allen from the USA. I believe there is another from the USA as well. Not sure if he's on this listserv. I can see the senders email address and know that it's not me posting :-). However, if that doesn't work I'd also be happy to have my user name inc

Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

rt of lifting machinery or lifting accessories; From: Steven Brody Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 2:13 PM To: John Allen; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not??? John, In the EU Application Guide 2006-42-ec

Re: [PSES] Partly Completed Machinery...or not???

ectly applied human effort" so it's a machine within the meaning of the Directive. Regards Nick. On 14 Apr 2016, at 21:06, John Allen mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com>> wrote: Thanks guys, but still struggling agreeing with the fact it's not part of the mac

Re: [PSES] Anechoic Chamber Questions

When I was at HP in Bristol, the financial issue was less of a problem than the overhead structural steelwork, plus the stuff already either side, and a/c ducting which limited the overall height and width - resulted in a chamber which was nearly square in cross-section and that compromised the

Re: [PSES] EU OJ today

“Someone” needs a really good “talking to”, I would think. L John E Allen W.London, UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 13 May 2016 19:11 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU OJ today Martin >I can't see EN 55022 or EN 55032 liste

[PSES] CE-EMC on Submersible Product

feet below or 3 feet?? Best Regards, John John Allen Product Safety Consulting, Inc www.productsafetyinc.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list,

Re: [PSES] CE-EMC on Submersible Product

the device producing noise when it is out of the water? If not I would look to test it as for any normal device. Regards Andy -Original Message----- From: John Allen [mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com] Sent: 18 May 2016 22:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] CE-EMC on Submersible Produ

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

Adam In my last job I tried to do something similar w.r.t. PWB materials for applications where V-1 or better materials aren’t any good because the retardants result in reduced service lives in hostile equipment environments, whereas some specific (and very special!) HB materials last much l

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

Also do a search for “UL flame spread test” and it should lead you to UL 723 (ASTM E84) amongst other things John E Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 19 May 2016 18:31 To: 'Adam Dixon'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: [PS

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

Rich Thanks for the info – which I had not realised before. However, even if I had known, I don’t think it would have helped much in that particular situation which involved a wide range of board designs and layouts produced in very small quantities of each – so we could not have tested e

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

adequate – and we were! John E Allen W. London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 21 May 2016 18:32 To: 'John Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards Hi John: Thanks for you

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 7:47 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards Rich With respect to actual testing of the materials in the enclosure, that was also

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

BTW: if that “safety expert” had looked closer, I think he would have found that something like 60065 would have been far more difficult with which to comply than the correct standard (which was presumably probably some Part 2 of 60335?). John E Allen W. London, UK From: John Allen

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

Gert In many instances I think you are probably on the right track - but mainly w.r.t. to 61010 kit for professional / semi-professional use, as opposed to 60950 where a lot of the kit certified (?) is low cost consumer kit of potentially "dubious" origin. So, maybe, the latter group deserves a

Re: [PSES] fire safety test methods for different country standards

Rich. Could it be that the scenarios which the standards committees envisage are not "the real deal", OR that the products which cause the fires just don't comply with the standards? IMO (not IMHO on this occasion !) the latter may well be the actual case, because, in opinion, the number of

[PSES] Multiple Listee for CE

tives. If company B wants company A to put their name on it and company B places the product on the market, do they need their own Technical File? Do they put something in the file from company A that the company B's model number is exactly the same as their model? Thanks, John

Re: [PSES] Multiple Listee for CE

That works perfectly, thanks!! I still would want so see company A's Technical File. John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 [http://www.productsafetyinc.com/assets/product-s

Re: [PSES] For Your Information NRTL Directive Draft and Comment

Thanks Kevin!! John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 From: Kevin Robinson Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 4:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject

[PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

Just had a routine info email from the ECM Web highlighting an interesting American Medical Association (AMA) article on the potential harmful effects of LED streetlights - see here: http://electricalmarketing.com/blog/ama-warns-harm-led-streetlights-blue-light?NL=ECM-07

Re: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

decidedly compliant with all corporate edicts. But most importantly, LED lighting, when done correctly, reduces wide-spectrum light pollution, so for sake of my desert trips, all must use LEDs. But, have noted that some of the LED drivers are serious noise problems (both RE and CE). Brian From

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

J!! From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: 22 June 2016 20:13 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light John said: “There have been lots of press reports of medics advising not to use computers late at night b

Re: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light

From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 June 2016 20:18 To: John Allen Cc: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] AMA Warns of Harm from LED Streetlights’ Blue Light John, ​​ I have to wonder about the "blue rich" automotive headlights, for me they are a strong irritan

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

Mike AFAIK, that requirement does not apply if a correctly fused appliance inlet is used because that should allow smaller gauge wiring from its outlet terminals – and that is quite common (or at least it was) for 60950 equipment. Whilst I am here, I would suggest that because the appropri

Re: [PSES] insulated wires

Rich Your first para is effectively what I was trying to say (obviously not effectively!) because, as you said, the internal wiring then need only be able to cope with the normal-condition current and any overcurrents from internal faults (such as a short to ground in Class I equipment) wou

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

Ed I seriously doubt that our technical regulatory requirements (at least in the compliance area in question) will change that much as they have always been prepared and applied with a "soft touch" approach. We trade with both Europe and the RoW, and the technical standards of most countrie

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

Rich (Almost!) Everyone here knows the marking, and some of them actually know what it means and how to apply it (many still don't), and it is in all the relevant legislation - and that is almost certainly how it will remain as I can't see anyone wanting another change, especially the legislatu

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

John Reference Mr Juencker – apparently “Mutti” (Mrs Merkel) rapidly slapped him on the head over that demand, and she took a similar line with the Foreign Ministers of the 6 Founder Member States (including her own J). John E Allen W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@b

[PSES] Software Safety to UL1998

Hi, We're looking for a software safety engineer that knows UL1998. Please respond to me directly, and quickly :-). Thanks, John John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238

Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex

Don't think so - but there might be a "Yuck" marking from some Europhobics J. From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: 27 June 2016 19:08 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Brexit and the European Compliance Complex John et al,

Re: [PSES] EMO vs EPO

Evening Getting a bit out-of-date in this area, but there is quite a lot in Clause 9 “Control circuits and control functions” of 60204-1; 2006 as amended, and that also refers to the safety-related aspects of control functions given in ISO 13849-1, ISO 13849-2 and IEC 6206 (none of which I h

Re: [PSES] Help [General Use]

I replied directly to him (only) this morning and he said that the post was not intended for the whole forum! He needed help on getting some email addresses off the distribution list, so I pointed him (I hope) in the right direction. Therefore, on David's behalf, I think this (nevertheless quite a

Re: [PSES] Papua New Guinea Regulatory Requirements

Ted's speculation about PNG somewhat mirrors my own experience from about 25yrs ago, when, working at the then BSI Technical Help to Exporters, I got a call from a company in the UK that wanted to sell (and I kid you not!) bedpan warmers to Puerto Rico! Well, I said, PR is a US-controlled terri

Re: [PSES] Papua New Guinea Regulatory Requirements

the way, a potential customer has asked if the product meets "Australian Electrical Standard". Not sure what "standard" they mean, but it sure goes along the lines with what you guys have said. Jim From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Friday, July

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Nice explanation Pete! Scott, et al - great questions! These and many other basic questions get answered at the Symposium in the Compliance 101 Track. Be sure to keep an eye out for announcements. For those who have knowledge to share, the call for papers for the 2017 Symposium is already

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

What a web of "interconnecting" (and not!) US regulations, standards, codes and regulatory authorities!. But we still sometimes then get US-based questions on the "European Wiring Regs" or similar - seems like a case of "Physician, heal thyself" first. J John E Allen W.London, UK From: Scott

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Afternoon Interesting article on ECMWEB - "OSHA Cites Macy's, The Finish Line for Electrical Shock Hazards" (http://ecmweb.com/shock-electrocution/osha-cites-macys-finish-line-electrical-shock-hazards?NL=ECM-04&Issue=ECM-04_20160801_ECM-04_674&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_7&utm_rid=CPG0400025478

Re: [PSES] Safety requirements in US

Sears and others compare. Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric -Original Message- From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 8:52 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety requiremen

Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

Anything is “possible” – just depends on your perspective and your “need” for the “absolute” purity of what your (want to) hear! John E Allen W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 22 August 2016 20:40 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Fuses can affect

Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

)? John E Allen W.London, UK From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 22 August 2016 22:07 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety! Anything is “possible” – just depends on your perspective and your “need

Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

I am sure is a well-reasoned approach to the subject)! John E Allen W.London, UK From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: 22 August 2016 23:15 To: 'john Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

Re: [PSES] Fuses can affect performance other than safety!

John W Not yet having read your article (tomorrow morning hopefully), I would then pose the question: since loudspeakers vary enormously in design and manufacture, then might it mean that a fuse which might work “well” for one amplifier/speaker combo might not work for another combo (maybe e

[PSES] Stairs/Steps/Ramps for Medical Use

Hi, The closest part 2 of 60601 I could find for the subject is -2-46 Operating tables and-2-52 Beds. Does anyone know if there an IEC Standard for medical steps, stairs and/or ramps. Client has a two step stair case that a patient can use to get onto a scale. Thanks, John John Allen

Re: [PSES] Stairs/Steps/Ramps for Medical Use

Thank you everyone for your feedback. It's very much appreciated!! John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 Visit us at the D2P Show in Marlborough, MA. Booth 537 Sept 28th &

Re: [PSES] Ball pressure test of thermoplastic parts

g the tests of clause 19, if this is higher. The temperature rises of 19.4 are not taken into account provided that the test is terminated by the operation of a NON-SELF-RESETTING PROTECTIVE DEVICE and it is necessary to remove a cover or use a TOOL to reset it. John Allen | President | Product S

[PSES] Oil Spill recovery equipment for CE - Exemption??

ws of this exemption? I searched on europa and cannot find anything. Thanks, John John Allen | President | Product Safety Consulting, Inc. Your Outsourced Compliance Department® http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 Visit us at the D2P Show in Marlborough, MA. Booth

Re: [PSES] Oil Spill recovery equipment for CE - Exemption??

some countries, certain fire services belong to the military, however machinery designed for use by such fire-fighters is not thereby considered to be designed and constructed for military purposes and is thus subject to the Machinery Directive. Regards Charlie From: John Allen [mailto:

Re: [PSES] Oil Spill recovery equipment for CE - Exemption??

Machinery Directive. Regards Charlie From: John Allen [ <mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com> mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com] Sent: 25 August 2016 12:52 To: <mailto:EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org> EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Oil Spill recovery equipment for C

Re: [PSES] Fire ants

“From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: 15 September 2016 17:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Fire ants “Correct – ….And a Bonnet is something a woman wears, not the HOOD of a car J “ ” – not in the UK it ain’t – every car has one!! John E Allen W.Londo

Re: [PSES] Risk Assessment of Air Filter

Brian >From "memory" of 60950 and the like, in view of the testing you have already done, and because the filter is outside the fire enclosure, then, for Q1, an HBF ("Horizontal Burning, Foam" IIRC) rating should be "adequate" to meet the standard in the same way that a piece of external solid "t

Re: [PSES] standard for power suply for server room.

Bostjan I would seriously consider pointing out to your customer that their specified supply voltage is not a common one (at all) and ask them to state in more detail the system configuration which will provide it, and then you should know more clearly what you are up against and how to deal

Re: [PSES] standard for power suply for server room.

also affect dielectric strength tests and so on so, please still ask the questions, or thereabouts. John E Allen W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 21 September 2016 20:52 To: 'john Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] standard for p

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

Almost sounds like a call for N. America to encompass our equivalent immunity requirements (often denigrated - even with Europe, but they generally do seem to work!) J John E Allen W. London, UK -Original Message- From: Ghery S. Pettit [mailto:n6...@comcast.net] Sent: 29 Septe

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

ensure they will work “anywhere” they are likely to be used! John E Allen W. London, UK From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: 29 September 2016 21:53 To: 'john Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough.. Not a chance

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

interference problems and so N. America is behind on this issue. John E Allen. W. London, UK From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: 29 September 2016 22:28 To: 'john Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough.. The federal gov

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

) 650-5261 _ From: john Allen Reply-To: john Allen Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 21:27:14 +0100 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough.. Almost sounds like a call for N. America to encompass our equivalent immunity requirements (often denigrated - even with Europe, but they ge

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

-5261 _ From: john Allen Reply-To: john Allen Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:44:48 +0100 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough.. Dennis I really do wonder what World you live in – but then, TBH, based on your previous comments of a similar nature, I did not expect anything

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

Cortland Morning I have just read some of stories on the apartmenttherapy website you gave the link to - and the poor customers who had EMI-related problems have my sincere sympathy. What seems clear to me (and presumably to most people viewing the current thread here!) is that relatively sim

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your co-operation. -Original Message----- From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Friday 30 September 2016 10:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough.. Cortland Morning

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

Dieter Yes, that’s what the words state, and have done for years – but, with no clear requirements or guidelines as to the technical requirements (tests, limits, pass/fail conditions etc.) or the actual need to do verification, then many/most suppliers appear to me to ignore those words! I thin

Re: [PSES] [RFI] Part 15 isn't enough..

Cortland Sound like Congress being "ruled" by "big" and/or "small business" interests to make the FCC take the path of least resistance - I would have thought that their approach might have been deemed as being not in the general public interest, but I can now see where you are coming from on

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