Re: Disk Warrior-How?

2008-10-09 Thread Will S
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Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Will S
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Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Dan wrote: >> I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do >> after >> they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. > > Unix has been plodding along since the late 1960s. What the heck - > lets stick with it another decade. No need to THINK Different. Jus

Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 10:03 PM +0100 10/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: >I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do after >they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. Unix has been plodding along since the late 1960s. What the heck - lets stick with it another decade. No need to THINK Different. Just kee

Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
2008/10/9 Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > related as a number (otherwise the name of the operating system would > be 'oh ess ten ten point five', not 'oh ess eks ten point five' which > is what everyone calls it.) Um, that's because they're wrong. Apple calls it "Mac Oh Ess Ten" and I thin

Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: > if you find a bug you can fix it yourself and contribute the fix to > the community. Right, because the majority of people who use computers these days all know C++ and can read the source code. Linux is great, it has it's place, but serio

Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Alexander MacLeod
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > > > I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do > > after > > they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. > > > > Will they go for 10.10? Will the abandon the who

Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi > > I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do > after > they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. > > Will they go for 10.10? Will the abandon the whole numbering and name > system before then? Will they leave OSX behind and m

Re: 10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Doug McNutt
At 22:03 +0100 10/9/08, Simon Royal wrote: >I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do after >they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. > >Will they go for 10.10? There's nothing wrong with that. Other 'NIX apps do it. But the X in OS-X does NOT stand for the base of decimal arithm

Re: Disk Warrior-How?

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Michael Kopp wrote: > Hey, fellas and girls, not nice to give people serial numbers for > pirated software on a supposedly respectable mailing list. > Which is against list rules, as all parties to this convo should well have known. However, it's entirely possible i

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Doug I was using Flurry. But the problem started as soon as I hooked up the monitor. I will try using a different screen saver or not one at all. Anything is worth a try. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk -

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 11:02 PM -0700 10/8/2008, PeterH wrote: >On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Ken wrote: > >> Well, PC100/133 is pretty specific. It is not "PC RAM." It is RAM. > >PC66/PC100/PC133 is SDRAM. > >Higher levels of RAM may be DDR, DDR2 or DDR3. They are ALL sticks of synchronous dynamic random access memo

Re: Fwd: Disk Warrior-How?

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Kopp
Hey, fellas and girls, not nice to give people serial numbers for pirated software on a supposedly respectable mailing list. Don't know where your listmoms are, or what rulz you have, but tsk, tsk. Also, I can't believe a Macintosh list is all top-posted! Yeesh. Hope this helps, M< Cheers fro

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Doug Burton
I'm getting in on this rather late, but were you by chance using Flurry as your screen saver? The reason I ask is because I had a similar problem using a cheap LCD. I left it on with Flurry as the screen saver and started noticing the fuzzy looking image on the screen that you describe.

Fwd: Disk Warrior-How?

2008-10-09 Thread Wilton Shaw
oThanks everyone for their helpful suggestions. I know I have to update My Disk Warrior before I can use it on OS 10.5.5. Begin forwarded message: > From: Kris Tilford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: October 7, 2008 8:45:56 PM EDT > To: Wilton Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Disk Warrior-Ho

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Dan wrote: > Because Apple doesn't use ECC,,, that means your > data in the older system was foo -- And you never knew it until the > crash hit! Apple used parity in its ill-fated Apple Network Server. With parity, a single-bit error can be detected, but not correc

10.10, XI or What?

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Hi I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do after they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. Will they go for 10.10? Will the abandon the whole numbering and name system before then? Will they leave OSX behind and move on to something new altogether? Of course nobody knows, I d

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Bruce > > The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a > G4 Cube > and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. > Might he have lower standards or (more likely) simply been used to it? I remember when I finally repl

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Dan wrote: > *shrug* My impression from talking to a friend (a chip engineer) is > that nothing gets passed/done without Intel's nod. They cough and > the spec rattles. IBM controlled the DRAM specs for the early Power Architectured Macs. Remember: PowerPC is an

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 12:23 PM -0700 10/9/2008, PeterH wrote: >On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Dan wrote: > >> Each PC- monikor is a *family*, that includes a range of >> specifications. The family specifications are published / controlled >> by Intel. > >These are controlled by the industry standards group, JE

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Bruce The monitor is a cheap TFT given to me by a friend who used it on a G4 Cube and a PC and he didn't notice bad picturing. I haven't tried it on another Mac myself, but I do have an iMac G3 which I am going to hook it up to just to check if the picture is better on there. If it is, then t

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 8:12 AM -0700 10/9/2008, PeterH wrote: >Why don't people understand that it is Apple which is the root cause >of these incompatibilities *gasp* gah. I don't have enough paws to cover eyes ears and mouth at the same time! Such sacrilege! Here, have a pizza. Now go! >Apple's DRAM controller c

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 9:51 AM -0400 10/9/2008, Len Gerstel wrote: > >I am not a memory geek, but the underlying theory is that low density >memory is better No. Higher density chips support faster access times and higher life-cycles. >and that is why Apple required it. Apple was just being cheap on the controll

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Dan wrote: > Do NOT use: > Parity, ECC, registered or buffered SDRAM DIMMs. < Parity is > not a problem. ECC, registered and buffered use a different socket > "key". > 256 Mb technology, 32-bit wide, EDO or FPM. < none of these > would fit the socket, a

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 12:13 PM, Dan wrote: > Each PC- monikor is a *family*, that includes a range of > specifications. The family specifications are published / controlled > by Intel. These are controlled by the industry standards group, JEDEC, of which Intel is a minor participant as it g

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 3:18 AM +0100 10/9/2008, Simon Royal wrote: > >I've always bought Mac RAM. However, slap the word Mac on RAM and >it's price hits the roof. > >In looking for 256MB and 512MB sticks of PC100/133 desktop RAM, will >PC RAM work as it is dirt cheap? Is there anything to look for. I >know older P

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Things go awry when vendors do not comply with the >>> technical design standards. >> >> NO! > > Really? So you're saying if RAM violates JEDEC specs it will still > function normally. Interesting. I wonder how they do that. You REAL

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Bruce. > > I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference. > > The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text. Crap, another wonderful theory killed by those damn facts. :-) Have you tried different refres

Re: iMac VGA Test

2008-10-09 Thread Tony Gamble
Yes, you can. I had to do this with my mother's G3 iMac when the screen failed complete due to the infamous inverter issue. She is still using it to this day with a 19" CRT plugged into the VGA port. Tony On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Simon Royal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi. > > I hav

Re: Gmail Question

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 5:30 PM -0600 10/8/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote: >Well, I looked in one of their emails and it said to assure delivery: > >Beliefnet would like to ensure that you are receiving your newsletter >subscription in your inbox. > Please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] into your address book. > >I did this. It d

Re: Gmail Question

2008-10-09 Thread Dan
At 5:30 PM -0600 10/8/2008, Stephen Conrad wrote: > > BTW... Your use of "->" is rather confusing. The > is used to >> indicated QUOTED text. Prefixing that with a dash just looks like a >> typo. > => Better? I do it to point out my replies. No. It makes the reply *harder* to find. Leave o

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Ted Treen
- Original Message From: Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: G3-5 List Sent: Thursday, 9 October, 2008 2:56:03 PM Subject: Re: PC RAM? On Oct 9, 4:07 am, "Simon Royal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter > > I know the differences between SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, 144pin, 168pin, 200pin and > 240p

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Bruce. I'm no Mac newbie, I had thought of that. It also makes no difference. The whole picture is fuzzy but it is most noticeable on text. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 8:27 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> Hi. >> >> I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac >> G4 Sawtooth. >> >> I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read >> that naff cable

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac > G4 Sawtooth. > > I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read > that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. > > The pi

iMac VGA Test

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Hi. I have a monitor and a new (to me) Mac which I am having problems with. Trouble is I can't narrow it down to whether it is the monitor or Mac and have no other Mac to test it on. However, my iMac G3 has a VGA port. Could I hook the monitor to this to check whether the same fuzziness appea

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I've always bought Mac RAM. However, slap the word Mac on RAM and > it's price hits the roof. > > In looking for 256MB and 512MB sticks of PC100/133 desktop RAM, will > PC RAM work as it is dirt cheap? Is there anything to look for.

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Oct 9, 2008, at 3:55 AM, Steve R wrote: > > At 3:14 AM -0500 10/9/08, Kris Tilford posted: >> On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:07 AM, Ted Treen wrote: >> >>> For what it's worth, the error that verify on 10.2 shows is "Invalid >>> Leaf record count (it should be 1 instead of 0)" >> >> Why are you using "

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Steve R
At 6:28 AM -0500 10/9/08, Kris Tilford posted: > > Did you repair the file system or not? As I posted, it wasn't my external drive. It was my neighbour's drive that had worked without a problem via NAS and USB on Vista and 10.4.11. The Vista machine is wired to the router, the iMac is wirele

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread PeterH
On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:56 AM, Al wrote: > By the technical standards of RAM design, there is no such thing as PC > RAM and Mac RAM. Correct. RAM is RAM is RAM (to paraphrase Gertrude Stein, my Godmother). > Things go awry when vendors do not comply with the > technical design standards. NO!

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Al
On Oct 9, 10:21 am, Ted Treen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Buying Apple-branded RAM is an exercise in expensive futility.  So is playing > around with anonymous RAM by trial & error. > > Far better to visit Crucial's website > > http://www.crucial.com(orhttp://www.crucial.com/ukfor those on my

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Len It was given to me, but had been working on a Cube and PC with no probs before I got it. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09/10/2008 14:42 On Oct 9, 2008

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Bob Johnson
On the leopard system, there's nothing to repair, the drive is fine. On the jaguar system, repair won't do anything because the drive is journaled. I don't think there is actually any problem with the drive, this is some inconsistency between the two systems that the older system can't prope

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Al
On Oct 9, 4:07 am, "Simon Royal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter > > I know the differences between SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, 144pin, 168pin, 200pin and > 240pin. > > You do get PC RAM and Mac RAM, in the sense that some sticks will work in a > PC but not a Mac. > > Some PC specific RAM will also w

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Len Gerstel
On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:18 , Simon Royal wrote: > In looking for 256MB and 512MB sticks of PC100/133 desktop RAM, will > PC RAM work as it is dirt cheap? Is there anything to look for. For ram, you need low density sticks. The cheapest 512MB sticks on the market are all high density and will

Re: Can Anyone Help With RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Al Poulin
On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:17 AM, g3-5-list group wrote: > > > == 4 of 4 == > Date: Thurs, Oct 9 2008 1:07 am > From: "Simon Royal" > > > Peter > > I know the differences between SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, 144pin, 168pin, > 200pin and 240pin. > > You do get PC RAM and Mac RAM, in the sense that some sticks wi

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Len Gerstel
On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > >> >> >> -original message- >> Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT >> From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 09/10/2008 14:15 >> >> >> >> On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I still have a grainy picture on my TFT

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Amanda Ward
Hey Simon... On Oct 8, 2008, at 7:18 , Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I've always bought Mac RAM. However, slap the word Mac on RAM and > it's price hits the roof. Heh... just like parts for my, long gone, Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. An alternator for my little black 'Bird went from $125

Re: Sawtooth Processor Upgrade

2008-10-09 Thread Amanda Ward
Simon, On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:07 , Simon Royal wrote: > > Glen > > I have done some digging and the Sawtooth is quite hard to upgrade > processor wise. > > I think maxxing it to its 2GB RAM limit is a better way to get > better performance. > > I have already installed a 7200RPM hard drive rep

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Len Native res is 1024x768 and it is set to that. I do not know what the DPI is, how would I find this? Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Still Fuzzy TFT From: Len Gerstel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 09/10/2008 14:15 On

Re: Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Len Gerstel
On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Simon Royal wrote: > > Hi. > > I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac > G4 Sawtooth. > > I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read > that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. > > The pi

Still Fuzzy TFT

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Hi. I still have a grainy picture on my TFT. It is hooked to a PowerMac G4 Sawtooth. I bought a new high quality, shielded, ferrite core cable as I read that naff cables can cause problems, but this hasn't resolved it. The picture displays fine but the text is a little pixelated, small text is

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Ted Treen
- Original Message From: Steve R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 9 October, 2008 11:55:36 AM Subject: Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system At 3:14 AM -0500 10/9/08, Kris Tilford posted: > On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:07 A

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:55 AM, Steve R wrote: > So are we to not use an external hard drive with any other OS than > Leopard once it's been used with Leopard since using an external with > Leopard is messing with the drive been used with other OSes? All > either dredbob or my neighbour did was copy

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Steve R
At 3:14 AM -0500 10/9/08, Kris Tilford posted: > On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:07 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > >> For what it's worth, the error that verify on 10.2 shows is "Invalid >> Leaf record count (it should be 1 instead of 0)" > > Why are you using "verify" rather than "repair"? > > You should repai

Re: HP Scanner optomized my HD

2008-10-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 9, 2008, at 3:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, Thanks for the advice so far. > What actually happened was that I was downloading a driver for the > scanner, which was followed by the "optimizing feature" &[EMAIL PROTECTED] Optimizing can't hurt your System, it just "pre-linking" fil

Re: HP Scanner optomized my HD

2008-10-09 Thread frankenstein9
Hi, Thanks for the advice so far. What actually happened was that I was downloading a driver for the scanner, which was followed by the "optimizing feature" &[EMAIL PROTECTED] The damage seems to be deeper than I thought. I can't connect to the internet, can't startup from my Panther instal

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Kris Tilford
On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:07 AM, Ted Treen wrote: > For what it's worth, the error that verify on 10.2 shows is "Invalid > Leaf record count (it should be 1 instead of 0)" Why are you using "verify" rather than "repair"? You should repair the file system, and then it should mount normally. Use Leop

Re: PC RAM?

2008-10-09 Thread Simon Royal
Peter I know the differences between SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, 144pin, 168pin, 200pin and 240pin. You do get PC RAM and Mac RAM, in the sense that some sticks will work in a PC but not a Mac. Some PC specific RAM will also work in a Mac. My question was, how do you tell. I pressume it is down to num

Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system

2008-10-09 Thread Ted Treen
- Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: G3-5 List Sent: Thursday, 9 October, 2008 4:00:01 AM Subject: Re: External drive won't mount on 10.2.8 after mounting on 10.5 system I was (and am) careful to eject the drive from the macbook (and the eMac) prope