On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 03:32 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote:
> * Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/28 18:14 -0500]:
> > I'm just getting ansty about all these new people we're bringing
>
> "New people"? You're joking, aren't you? Some of them are
> moderators for even a longer time than you ar
* Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/28 18:14 -0500]:
> I'm just getting ansty about all these new people we're bringing
"New people"? You're joking, aren't you? Some of them are
moderators for even a longer time than you are a Gentoo Dev.
The problem just is, that the Forums have been
Lance Albertson posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below, on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:14:11 -0500:
> Ok, after talking with a few folks I want to retract my comment about no
> shell access. I didn't think about the other groups (docs) that already
> have shell access and retain a simliar status as
This might be a problem with the drivers as well. I have seen this
issue on other systems with various ATI cards and I have yet to come
across the solution for it.
On 6/28/05, Chris Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Luca Barbato wrote:
> > Chris Frederick wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I'd be happy to h
On Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:03 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> sys-libs/nss-mysql (why we have two?)
Robbat was supposed to remove this; it's passed its cut-off date quite a while
ago.
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On Wednesday 29 June 2005 01:31, Kito wrote:
> Yeah, I would add to the list:
> app-crypt/heimdal
Ok so this makes also those belonging there:
app-crypt/mit-krb5
app-crypt/kth-krb
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On Jun 28, 2005, at 5:03 PM, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
Ok as I was waiting for Azarah approval after Robbat's one here we
are:
[23:49] az, it was kito :P i'm just waiting for your
opinion about
sys-auth
[23:50] i cant see that anybody ever waited for my approval to do
anything, b
Peter Johanson wrote:
>I know this is intended to be tongue in cheek,
>
Good.
> but I have a dev in the
>dotnet herd who's really pretty upset right now as a result of such
>apparently scathing comments accusing him of being an evil conspirator,
>a wrecker, and traitor, when it wasn't even *him*
Hi all,
Just a question, will there be a different group for moderators that
belong to staff and moderators which doesn't belong? I'm asking this
because users may relate different groups meaning official gentoo
replies from gentoo staff and not official from other moderators,
giving the idea of v
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:34:14 -0500
Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 00:20 +0200, Christian Hartmann wrote:
>
> > To host patches, docs etc. Just like every other devs/staff guy does
> > atm. (Sure. toucan isn't meant to be a download server and we're
> > aware of
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 17:34 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 00:20 +0200, Christian Hartmann wrote:
>
> > To host patches, docs etc. Just like every other devs/staff guy does
> > atm. (Sure. toucan isn't meant to be a download server and we're aware
> > of this fact.)
>
> Pat
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:41:37PM -0700, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
> Comrades!
>
> Once more, I come before you with sad tidings. Evil anti-gentoo
> conspirators are plotting to destroy our
> wonderful distribution. Yet again they tried to subvert quality and
> integrity of our distributio
Comrades!
Once more, I come before you with sad tidings. Evil anti-gentoo
conspirators are plotting to destroy our
wonderful distribution. Yet again they tried to subvert quality and
integrity of our distribution by falsely
claiming that certain packages build and run *gasp* stable *gasp* on
platf
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I've been wondering lately with the discussion of yet more new
categories, why don't we do repocopies to move packages? Note that I'm
talking about packages switching categories and explicitly _not_ about
package name changes.
Although this would requ
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 00:20 +0200, Christian Hartmann wrote:
> To host patches, docs etc. Just like every other devs/staff guy does
> atm. (Sure. toucan isn't meant to be a download server and we're aware
> of this fact.)
Patches to our phpbb should only fall under 2-3 people and means
moderators
John Mylchreest wrote:
> Infra developers are more often than not package maintainers etc as
> well, and have cvs rights. if they don't have cvs rights, they look
> after core infrastructure which is vital to Gentoo's survival.
Forums built a community.
Quote: '"Best support" went to the Gentoo Fo
Jan Kundrát wrote:
> IMHO GDP members develop documentation :-). Just let's call them all
> "developers"...
and the forums monkeys develop solutions for the users.. develop faqs..
develop a community..
But I'm fine with the staff thingy. Please reread the GLEP and have a
look at the changes we ma
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:34:11PM -0300, Gustavo Zacarias wrote:
>
> When will this end?
> DON'T KEYWORD STUFF YOU DON'T TEST ON ARCHES, SPECIALLY STUFF THAT WON'T
> WORK UNTIL PORTING IS DONE.
> I mean, c'mon, it's easy enough... just go to that little Mono page
> (http://www.mono-project.com/Ma
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 17:49 -0400, Olivier Crete wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-28-06 at 07:20 -0400, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:57:46PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > > On 6/28/05, Shyam Mani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does it really matter you if we are called deve
Ok as I was waiting for Azarah approval after Robbat's one here we are:
[23:49] az, it was kito :P i'm just waiting for your opinion about
sys-auth
[23:50] i cant see that anybody ever waited for my approval to do
anything, but since it makes you feel all tingly and good inside, it sounds
ok,
Olivier Crete wrote:
>>Yes. You don't develop anything
>
>
> Neither do infra devs or doc devs...
IMHO GDP members develop documentation :-). Just let's call them all
"developers"...
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On Tue, 2005-28-06 at 07:20 -0400, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:57:46PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > On 6/28/05, Shyam Mani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The only difference I see b/w "Staff" and "Developers" is that you might
> > > not have access to CVS. You'll have a
When will this end?
DON'T KEYWORD STUFF YOU DON'T TEST ON ARCHES, SPECIALLY STUFF THAT WON'T
WORK UNTIL PORTING IS DONE.
I mean, c'mon, it's easy enough... just go to that little Mono page
(http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page) and check the arch status...
it's not hard... just a simple link. (FY
Hi,
After the discussion today about the forums GLEP [1], we've made some
changes:
All the current global moderators and admins who aren't already
developers/staff will take the staff quiz.
Old moderators (those with Bodhisattva status) will be considered in the
same way that retired devs are an
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò posted
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below,
on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:55:35 +0200:
> And until you don't figure on roll-call after taking a quiz, you can't
> be considered "Official Staff/Developers", so you can't just say "we're
> official", also ATs getting developers mus
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:34:35AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Honestly, we call everyone with an @gentoo.org address a developer,
> whether they are a "developer" (CVS access) or not.
There have been heavy objections against that when we presented the
first draft of the glep using the term d
First, that thread is old.
Second, the issue was addressed.
Third, personal opinions on anything do not have anything to do with
this. Freedom of speech has always been guaranteed on the forums as
far as there are no personal agressions. What brings me to the point
that your statement falls really
Hi again,
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:47:42 +0100
twofourtysix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28/06/05, Ricardo Loureiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Also, I truly doubt that any moderator would refuse to be
> > considered a Gentoo staff or anything gentoo related, otherwise
> > why choose to give
On 28/06/05, Ricardo Loureiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, I truly doubt that any moderator would refuse to be considered
> a Gentoo staff or anything gentoo related, otherwise why choose to
> give their free time to the forums?
Would the likes of [1] be considered acceptable from a Gentoo s
Hi all,
All forum moderators and admins try to make the forum clean and after
that they try to help the best they can, as all other users. So the
moderators/admins do not need to know how Gentoo itself works
internally, they just need to be mature and responsible.
Now I agree that regular users
Hey all,
Was just going to inform you all of some downtime going to happen
tonight around 0900UTC. The facility at the Open Source Labs is needing
to do some UPS upgrades on all the rackmounted servers they host. This
means the power will need to be off (which will include the switches for
the non
Luca Barbato wrote:
Chris Frederick wrote:
I'd be happy to help test. Is there any testing methodology that I
should follow? Or any specific application I should test, or xorg
config settings I should try?
Just unmask and emerge the .13.4 driver as usual and use it as a
standard ati-drive
On 6/28/05, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
Erm... either your emails came late or you didn't read my last email.
The horse is dead, stop beating it.
Ioannis wrote:
>*
>My most sincere excuses if I trolled or annoyed anyone. It was not
>intentional.
>*
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On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 12:57 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Maybe just that Developer sounds prettier than Staff. The rest is
> exactly as you stated. Now let me ask developers this:
>
> Does it really matter you if we are called developers instead of staff?
Honestly, we call everyone with an @
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 12:35 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > Can anybody explain me the difference between them ?
>
> Well, you better discuss that with your fellow developers. It was they
> who didn't want us to become developers and gave us the title of staff
> instead.
You really don't give
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 12:19 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
> > manage your recruits then they can't be gentoo staff.
>
> One reason could be that we are _not_ going to be called developers but staff.
Like our infrastruct
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 12:04 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > Is it really so annoying to do one simple quiz?
>
> I do not care of doing it. But I feel it's my duty to defend the
> interests of all the moderation team. And no, it's _not_ annoying to
> *do* the quiz, the annoying thing is to forc
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 11:53 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> And some of us were already doing stuff for Gentoo much before the
> quizes became mandatory, so it would be fair that all of us that were
> mods/admins before that date would be treated *that* way.
You were never staff before.
I contr
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 08:44 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> About the language: all global mods do speak (write) English fluently.
> That is too obvious. Global Mods and Admins can take the quiz in
> English with no problem. The problem comes with our fellow
> International Forum Mods, who do not
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 13:29, Anders Hellgren wrote:
Now, some people seem to have a
problem with someone being global moderator or admin without being
official staff.
No that's not the issue. The issue is that if you want that global mod
On 6/28/05, Allen Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please try to refrain from posting any more stupid flames to what is
> > supposed to be a productive development list. This is not USENET.
> If this is a development list, why exactly are we having discussion
> about the forums in the first pl
> If this is a development list, why exactly are we having discussion
> about the forums in the first place?
"The author of the GLEP is then responsible for posting the GLEP to the
gentoo-dev mailing list and to the Gentoo Linux forums [7], and marshaling
community support for it."
http://www.
On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:21:12AM -0800, Allen Parker wrote:
> I think before posting you should perhaps take a step back and think:
> "Am I making myself look like a bigger asshat than the other guy?"
I knew I was making myself look like an ass
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 13:29, Anders Hellgren wrote:
> > Most of them already took it
> ...or are pre quiz staff.
Ok I was intending both of the cases but that's more clear.
> Again, noone's ever intended that anyone should become official Gentoo
> staff without taking the staff quiz.
> Now, som
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I was poked about this. OK, looks like many developers didn't like
what I've post in here plus I was somewhat recriminated.
*
My most sincere excuses if I trolled or annoyed anyone. It was not
intentional.
*
About "From: Allen Parker <[EMAIL
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 03:21:12AM -0800, Allen Parker wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Ioannis Aslanidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry for that, just tried to keep the discussion alive. I assume all
>
>
> It's alive enough without your constant/irrelevant bitching. You're a
> forum moderator which
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:37, Anders Hellgren wrote:
Let's see, all admins and global mods are in the Global Moderators group.
To the best of my knowledge the staus is the following.
If those are all, then the problem doesn't seems to exis
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 13:19, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> Why does it matter? Should this policy also apply to 'unofficial' bug
> wranglers who did not take the staff quiz, or is Bugzilla not an
> official part of Gentoo?
They have limited privileges, they shouldn't touch out of their competence, so
the
On 6/28/05, Ioannis Aslanidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry for that, just tried to keep the discussion alive. I assume all
It's alive enough without your constant/irrelevant bitching. You're a
forum moderator which = staff, not developer. If you think that you're
making an argument that ac
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:01:57PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Developers have CVS access; take the ebuild quiz and you're a developer,
> > take the staff quiz (the eight-question quiz some mods apparently don't
> > like for whatever biza
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:57:46PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Shyam Mani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The only difference I see b/w "Staff" and "Developers" is that you might
> > not have access to CVS. You'll have an email ID and an account on
> > dev.g.o, just like the rest o
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:00:21PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:48, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> > AFAIK they still plan to go through devrel, just add a forums person to
> > the recruiters team so existing recruiters aren't flooded with new staff
> > all of a sudden
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On 06/28/2005 04:31 PM, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Developers have CVS access; take the ebuild quiz and you're a developer,
>>take the staff quiz (the eight-question quiz some mods apparently don'
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:01:57PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Developers have CVS access; take the ebuild quiz and you're a developer,
> > take the staff quiz (the eight-question quiz some mods apparently don't
> > like for whatever biza
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Maybe just that Developer sounds prettier than Staff. The rest is
> exactly as you stated. Now let me ask developers this:
>
> Does it really matter you if we are called developers instead of staff?
No, why should anybody bother?
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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:37:46 +0200 (MEST)
Anders Hellgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Currently I'd be interested if there are any solid numbers how many
> > global moderators/admins want/don't want to get staff status?
>
> Let's see, all admins and global mods are in the Global Moderators
> g
Anders Hellgren wrote:
> BonezTheGoon: Don't know, inactive
> phong: Don't know, inactive
> pilla: Reluctant, but hasn't said he would refuse.
[snip the ones who will take it or where it's not necessary]
We're talking about 3 people in the worst case. I don't know how long
they have been inactive,
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:48:51AM -0400, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > > > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
> > > > manage yo
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On 06/28/2005 04:27 PM, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Does it really matter you if we are called developers instead of staff?
*I* don't have an issue with that. I care more about what I'm able to do
for the community rather than bother with what I'm goi
On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Developers have CVS access; take the ebuild quiz and you're a developer,
> take the staff quiz (the eight-question quiz some mods apparently don't
> like for whatever bizarre reason...) and you're staff
Does that mean that we could take the ebui
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:57, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Does it really matter you if we are called developers instead of staff?
No, not for me.
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On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:48, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> AFAIK they still plan to go through devrel, just add a forums person to
> the recruiters team so existing recruiters aren't flooded with new staff
> all of a sudden
This is fair and right enough. But to do that, I'm still thinking (like
others) t
On 6/28/05, Shyam Mani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only difference I see b/w "Staff" and "Developers" is that you might
> not have access to CVS. You'll have an email ID and an account on
> dev.g.o, just like the rest of us (I'm assuming here). So what/where is
> the big deal about it?
Maybe
On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> AFAIK they still plan to go through devrel, just add a forums person to
> the recruiters team so existing recruiters aren't flooded with new staff
> all of a sudden
And we already have a candidate I presume :)
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On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:37, Anders Hellgren wrote:
> Let's see, all admins and global mods are in the Global Moderators group.
> To the best of my knowledge the staus is the following.
If those are all, then the problem doesn't seems to exists.
Most of them already took it, the others will take
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:35:11PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Fernando J. Pereda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > > > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
> > > > manage your r
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On 06/28/2005 04:05 PM, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> Well, you better discuss that with your fellow developers. It was they
> who didn't want us to become developers and gave us the title of staff
> instead.
The only difference I see b/w "Staff" and "D
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
> > > manage your recruits then they can't be gentoo staff.
> >
> > One reason coul
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On 06/28/2005 03:34 PM, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> I do not care of doing it. But I feel it's my duty to defend the
> interests of all the moderation team. And no, it's _not_ annoying to
> *do* the quiz, the annoying thing is to force someone to do it
On 6/28/05, Anders Hellgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Deathwing00: /me is getting confused by his replies in this thread, the
> main authors of the glep never intended anyone to become Gentoo staff
> without taking the staff quiz.
Sorry for that, just tried to keep the discussion alive. I assum
Currently I'd be interested if there are any solid numbers how many
global moderators/admins want/don't want to get staff status?
Let's see, all admins and global mods are in the Global Moderators group.
To the best of my knowledge the staus is the following.
Nitro: Not necessary, [1]
amne: W
On 6/28/05, Fernando J. Pereda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
> > > manage your recruits then they can't be gentoo staff.
> >
> > One reason could be that w
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to
> > manage your recruits then they can't be gentoo staff.
>
> One reason could be that we are _not_ going to be called developers but staff.
Can anybody e
On 6/28/05, Fernando J. Pereda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:53:17AM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > > Nope; if you become staff then devrel/recruiters will be involved. You
> > > are no exception to the rule.
> >
> > Incorrect. As devrel already stated, this won't cha
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>And some of us were already doing stuff for Gentoo much before the
>>>quizes became mandatory, so it would be fair that all of us that were
>>>mods/admins before that date would be treated *that* way.
>>
>>Is it rea
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:53:17AM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> > Nope; if you become staff then devrel/recruiters will be involved. You
> > are no exception to the rule.
>
> Incorrect. As devrel already stated, this won't change ever. We will
> be always the ones to do this.
I still don't s
On 6/28/05, Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And some of us were already doing stuff for Gentoo much before the
> > quizes became mandatory, so it would be fair that all of us that were
> > mods/admins before that date would be treated *that* way.
>
> Is it really so annoying to do one s
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> And some of us were already doing stuff for Gentoo much before the
> quizes became mandatory, so it would be fair that all of us that were
> mods/admins before that date would be treated *that* way.
Is it really so annoying to do one simple quiz?
Cheers,
-jkt
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On 6/28/05, Fernando J. Pereda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In that regard, you do not get to take care of your own things anymore.
> >
> > We will still recruit new mods/admins and take care of them. We will still
> > moderate and administering the board and the software. We will still vote
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:09:41 +0200
Haas Wernfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> With reference to the recent thread about this GLEP's draft [1]
> we're resurrecting the discussion and would like keep you updated
> on the latest changes:
> 1) The term developer has been dropped and replaced by
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 10:39:52AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You want to become official.
>
> We are official. It's not just the way things should be.
Well... you want to become staff.
> > In that regard, you do not get to take care of your own things anymore.
>
> We will still recrui
Haas Wernfried wrote:
>>>There is no way to force it on them and firing them is not an option.
>>
>>Why not?
>
> You're not serious, are you?
> These people have dedicated a lot of work to the forums and
> Gentoo. They are doing a great job. Why fire them?
Noone wants to fire them. They want to j
> You want to become official.
We are official. It's not just the way things should be.
> In that regard, you do not get to take care of your own things anymore.
We will still recruit new mods/admins and take care of them. We will still
moderate and administering the board and the software. We
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 08:44 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> On 6/28/05, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can
> > > achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given
> > > enough time all old moderators
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