[LUTE] Re: the point of synthetics - Rather the movement of the whole lute

2012-10-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
>Also worth mentioning that Mace's compositions aren't that bad either. Yes, seconded! Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Links for some lute pictures again

2012-10-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
The third should read https://www.karlundfaber.de/de/kataloge/online-katalog/index.php?id=13872 (Molenaer) Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Andreas Schlegel > Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Oktober 2012 15:49

[LUTE] Albrecht Werl lute book

2012-11-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear everybody, Currently, I'm copying some pieces from the Werl ms. into Fronimo, viz. anonymous pieces in the Flat tuning that do not appear in other sources (unicum). Has somebody been into this before? Is somebody interested in this stuff or willing to cooperate? Best wish

[LUTE] Re: Lutz Kirchhof about the lute as a romantic instrument

2012-11-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
>I guess Lutz point would be the old lutenist anticipated (some) ideas >of the romantic period. >I don't completely agree - because the concept of the "genius" is >missing (just to name one element) but it seems true that lute players >of the period partly followed concepts whic

[LUTE] Re: A pair of transitional pieces

2012-11-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
> 2) A very unusual chaconne by P. Gaultier: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6LyGjekKtM > > Is this the only piece existing that not only frets notes on the 9th course but > actually has slurred runs? That's part of Pierre Gaultier's personal style of composition, and it distinguishes him from

[LUTE] Re: A pair of transitional pieces

2012-11-19 Thread Mathias Rösel
> I have retuned my 11 course baroque lute into the world of transitional tuning > and have a couple of fun and interesting pieces to share: > > 1) A branle ("brawl") by Mesangeau: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpVdkRQSd8 > > 2) A very unusual chaconne by P. Gaultier: > http://www.youtube.com

[LUTE] Re: A pair of transitional pieces

2012-11-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
hat one may relate to for this matter: http://youtu.be/jAcHLUkIfDE http://youtu.be/lv19DBYQzBA http://youtu.be/8bQ8o6zP9TM http://youtu.be/m8MjEV9B66U http://youtu.be/CvwueqWPx7U http://youtu.be/GkDSywfh5XY Mathias > On Nov 19, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Mathias Rösel wrote: > > >> I ha

[LUTE] Re: Rolled chords

2012-11-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
>Here's an proposal: How about rolling >when it's appropriate and not rolling when it's not? Martyn alluded to that point already when he said that rolling may take away from the power of musical rhetoric. That applies e.g. to the matter of séparé in French baroque lute music. You can read

[LUTE] Far OT

2012-12-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Collected Wisdom, Does someone recognize the following intro to a pop song from the 80ies? The tab was given to me as a riddle, and I seem to remember the song, but I can't for the life of me remember exactly. Any help appreciated. |---a-|-r-a-r-a-r-a-r-a-|---

[LUTE] Re: Far OT

2012-12-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
Oh my, what a mess. Sorry for inconvenience. I try to improve it. -|---a-|-r-a-r-a-r-a-r-a-|--:| -r-a-r-a-r-a-r-a-|-d-r-d-r-d-r-d---|-d---|-r-a-r-a-r-d--:| -d---|-a---|-d---|-d---d:| -r-

[LUTE] Re: Re: Far OT

2012-12-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
Amazing. Thank you, Reinier! Von: Reinier de Valk An: Mathias Roesel Cc: Lute List Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Far OT Datum: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 03:24:30 +0100 Dear Mathias, It's actually from the nineties: "Narcotic", by Liquido. It's probably not a bad thing that y

[LUTE] Re: Latin and lute.

2012-12-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
> According to Wikipedia, Latin was the language of scholarship, science, and > internation communication until around 1725. > > However, I've not seen much of Latin in lute music. There is e.g. Judenkünig's Utilis et compendiaria introductio, Janowska's treatise on lutes (including his famous qu

[LUTE] Turkish Theorbo

2013-01-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thanks to Roman who pointed me to this marvellous recording: http://youtu.be/MBZlqVndhW8 (Marin Marais, La Reveuse, arranged for the theorbo, percussion and Chinese violin). According to the blurb, the theorbo is a Turkish instrument, but don't let that remarks prevent you from listening! Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Newsidler and plucking or not?

2013-02-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
> if memory serves, we have been talking about one interesting question of interpreting > German tabulature: when (especially) Hans Newsidler repeated a short note after > longer one, did he really mean repeating the pluck, or did he thus just in this way > express a note with a dot? Did he mean ju

[LUTE] Re: Origins of bowing.

2013-02-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
Bowing as an educated way of greeting someone else is already mentioned in the Bible. That dates back way beyond antiquity. Yet as for musicians receiving applause with a bow, that would imply that musicians were acknowledged as kind of emancipated artists considered worthy to receive applause. Ju

[LUTE] Re: Satoh - de Visée

2013-04-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
(Y) if ya know wadda mean >:^) Mathias > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of > Valéry Sauvage > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 9:57 AM > To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Satoh - de Visée > >A beautiful one to

[LUTE] Re: Petrus Fabricius

2013-08-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
>Here are some additional references, although surely Ralf Jarchow's >facsimile and edition will supersede these references. > > > >Zofia Steszewska, ed., Tance polskie z tabulatur lutniowych, ii, Zrodla >do historii muzyki (Warsaw, 1966). 8 pieces and one facs. > >Johannes

[LUTE] Tablature fonts for Fronimo

2013-08-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
--=_NextPart_001_000B_01CE94E5.242B1D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is someone here familiar with creating fonts for the Fronimo software? Francesco said he cannot do it himself for lack of time, but he'd be willing to s

[LUTE] Re: more music on my web site

2013-08-14 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thank you VERY much for sharing this! Mathias > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of > Nancy Carlin > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:06 AM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] more music on my web site > > I c

[LUTE] Re: Time to work on how we look?

2013-08-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
> On 08/20/2013 01:22 AM, William Samson wrote: > > Interesting new study showing that visual cues are more important that > > the sound of a performance in how people judge it: > > There must be some truth to it. For instance, I find it difficult to watch this performer: > > http:

[LUTE] Re: Time to work on how we look?

2013-08-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
> > One of the reasons why the lute and other string instruments were > > considered superior to, say, wind instruments in the 17th and 18th > > centuries was that lute players weren't forced to contort their faces > > (as is someone who blows into a flute). > > Yes, but... > > > On 08/20/2013 01

[LUTE] Re: Time to work on how we look?

2013-08-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
> > I have to agree that the visual "choreography" takes away from the enjoyment. > Weather it's the fellow playing F C d M (incidentally with some wrong notes and > rhythms) who looks like his dog just died, or Tatiana, who looks for all the world like > she is experiencing some sort of sexual gra

[LUTE] Re: Time to work on how we look?

2013-08-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
> IMHO, Vivica is a pale and slightly angry immitator of - the rightly beloved - Cecilia > Bartoli - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4It44mYw2I > For those who like me like to compare performances of the same piece by different > performers on Spotify or YouTube, I cannot make up my mind as to whi

[LUTE] Re: New UR Research Publications [Lute MS & Vallet psalms]

2013-08-23 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Arthur, dear Jean-Marie, Thank you very much ! May research continue. Mathias From: Arthur Ness [mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:07 PM To: Jean-Marie Poirier; Mathias Roesel; 'Lute List'; 'Baroque Lute List' Subject: Re: [BAROQU

[LUTE] Re: chord fingering

2013-09-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hans Newsidler has no barre in his tablatures. In the 1st part of his 1536 print, he offers fingerings that would imply forefinger b2, middle b3, ring c4, little d5 for this chord. Mathias > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behal

[LUTE] Re: Thigh support for theorbo

2013-10-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
Strap and leather cloth is all I need. The chitarrone does not rest on the leg, though, but on the outer side of the right leg. My two cents. Mathias > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of > Daniel Shoskes > Sent: Thursday

[LUTE] Re: Madrigals for female voices

2013-11-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
>ps I meant 'know of any'! > >On 2 November 2013 15:58, Helen Atkinson ><[1]helen.atkin...@wordstone.co.uk> wrote: > >Dear Luters >I'm hoping to find arrangements of madrigals for 3 and 4 female voices >with entabulated lute accompaniment. Am I likely to be disappointed or

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I

2013-12-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Dear Howard, > I must confess, that the logic of Your Arguments is always a very great pleasure, a > light in the darkness of December. > Thank You > Andreas (Berlin) Wholeheartedly seconded Mathias > Am 20.12.2013 19:54, schrieb howard posner: > > On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Christopher Wi

[LUTE] Re: what name is given to this instrument?

2013-12-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Why, it's a 10string lute guitar, aka wandervogel lute. Probably flat-backed. Mathias > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of > David Morales > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 6:11 PM > To: List LUTELIST > Subject: [LUTE] wh

[LUTE] Re: what name is given to this instrument?

2013-12-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
>So, i guess that guitar tuning would be the right tuning for the top >six strings, but what about the other four strings? may i suppose that >the best choice would be D, C, B, A? >Regards. Yes, that's how I for one have tuned my wandervogel lute. Mathias To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: a new prof in Munich

2014-02-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hooray!!! M. > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of > Bernd Haegemann > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 7:51 PM > To: lute list > Subject: [LUTE] a new prof in Munich > > > > > > Dear all, > Evangelina Mascard

[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau

2014-04-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits > characteristic of him. > I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has > deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean > Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tom

[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau

2014-04-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
the impression that this would be usual way. The tombeau written by Mesangeau would be Tombeau par Mesangeau. The easy way to prove me wrong would be to find a tombeau that is headlined Tombeau de XY where XY is the name of the composer. Mathias > > > > Lex > > Op 21 apr 201

[LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose

2014-05-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Dear David, > You are probably right - forget the papal rose line. Though perhaps the > rose reference is some personal link known to those around G at the > time. But perhaps a gilded rose is likely - I'm just cautious about > proceeding from speculation to certainty > It d

[LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose

2014-05-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
ge June 22, 2013! > > Wayne > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Martyn Hodgson > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose > > Date: May 4, 2014 at 8:35:52 AM EDT > > To: Mathias Rösel , Lute List > > > > Reply-To: Mart

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
> When I think of 12 course lutes, I think of the ones described by Mace, with > two peg > boxes. But the lute Baron is holding looks like a regular > 11 course lute with an extra course, right? That's right. > Seems like there were two types of 12 course lutes. As regards surviving lutes, I'm

[LUTE] Re: 12 Course Lutes

2014-05-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
> But on the other hand, it does seem plausible to me that builders > experimented with > adding one extra course to 11 course lutes, before they came up with the bass > rider. > Maybe Baron played one such experimental instrument? Can't see why one should assume that. The lute he holds on the f

[LUTE] Reymes ms.

2014-06-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
--=_NextPart_001_0005_01CF7EBA.FCC3F030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Collected Wisdom, Does someone on this list know if there are facsimiles extant or if there is another access to the Reymes ms. available (F-Pn

[LUTE] Re: Reymes ms.

2014-06-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
Many thanks to those netters who quickly helped! Much appreciated! Mathias > -Original Message- > > Dear Collected Wisdom, > > > > Does someone on this list know if there are facsimiles extant or if there is another > access to the Reymes ms. available (F-Pn Rés. Vma. ms. 1404, or s

[LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.

2014-07-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
Rubbers (British English) usually do the trick for me, i.e. getting pinkie spots off the soundboard. Mathias > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of > Martyn Hodgson > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 8:53 AM > To: Herbert Ward; lu

[LUTE] Missing page?

2014-08-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
--=_NextPart_001_0026_01CFB3EF.C8759B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear everbody, There is a facsimile of Brno 3.329 online. You can access it at http://www.manuscriptorium.com/apps/main/en/index.php Enter search word , click. Tha

[LUTE] Re: Saturday morning quote - Sage advice

2014-09-01 Thread Mathias Rösel
Practising is my way of returning the inner self and body functions like muscle tonus, blood circulation and breath into order. Lute-do, as David van Ooijen once poetically put it. Another thing is that some people in my environment just love the sound of the lute. No need to play virtuoso pieces.

[LUTE] Transcriptions

2014-09-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
--=_NextPart_001_0018_01CFCF42.35A6F8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear everybody, There are three chaconnes, actually written for the angélique, that I've posted on Danny Shoskes’ Lute Ning page (thank you, Danny, for

[LUTE] Re: Galilei lute works

2011-08-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
> What about the Fronimo Dialogo : > Fac simile here : > > http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176 That's Michelangelo's father. Mathias > -Message d'origine- > De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part > de be...@interlog.com Envoyé : vendredi

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
> "Historical practice" was tuning small theorbos in dm, although even this is not > very certain (it's mostly based on a few examples, like the pieces by visee which > exist in staff notation and theorbo tablature). That's news to me, indeed. There is a theory that some theorbos were tuned in D,

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
Chris, Ralf, I was speaking of the "Pieces de Theorbe et de Luth, Mises en Partition Dessus et Basse", 1716 (facsimile Madrid, 1983). The guitar is not mentioned. One might take this to suggest that de Visée himself viewed the pieces as theorbo and lute music. In his 1983 preface, Juan Marcos rem

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
> > I was speaking of the "Pieces de Theorbe et de Luth, Mises en > > Partition Dessus et Basse", 1716 (facsimile Madrid, 1983). The guitar > > is not mentioned. > > I was speaking of the two printed guitar books from 1682 and 1686. No theorbo > mentioned in those. That being so, it was off-topic

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
> I would object to the idea that some > version is a "rewrite" of another version. I take all three version > (guitar/theorbo/score) as renderings of the same compositional idea. A bit more than that, no? Exact transpositions of the same pieces, I'd say. Perhaps we won't be able to tell which was

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
=catalogue I see no results that match 1575 or > > 25391. > > Any suggestions on finding them or help in clarifying what the numbers > > refer to? > > > > Regards > > David > > > > -Original Message- > > From: R. Mattes [mailto:r...@m

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
NN simply is a gorgeous soloist. Mathias PS: My theorbo has 82 cm VSL, and it took a while until I got used to it, but today I wouldn't say any more that 82 cm is large at all. > -Original-Nachricht- > > Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute strings for theorbo > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 > 1

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
> So, now that we seem to have traced down what manuscripts you are refering > to, would you mind to elaborate a bit about > > > Paris BN 1575 and BN 25391 are two theorbo mss. that abound with music > > by de Visee. Some concordances with Saizenay, but both mss. > > seem to be much earlier than 1

[LUTE] Re: Translation of old German.

2011-08-22 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jungfrauschaft actually is a noun and meant a) female virginity, b) male virginity, c) a group of virgins. (BTW, for a) and c), Jungferschaft was a more common form in High German, during the 14th through 18th centuries.) In the verse " O haylige, onbeflecte, zart junckfrawschaffte Marie", though,

[LUTE] Duet in John Surt Lute Book

2011-08-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
There is a duet for two 12c lutes in the John Sturt lute book (GB-Lbl Add. Ms. 38539), according to Ekkehard Schulze-Kurz. But in http://w1.bnu.fr/smt/0222.htm no such duet is listed. Is someone familiar with the John Sturt lute book? Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at h

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

2011-08-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
>I'm thinking theorbo purchase... Where does one get a nylon theorbo >14-course string set? I measured my 8-course lute strings, which went >from 100cm to 110cm; obliviously too short... Please, no "you must use >gut(!)" nonsense. That's correct, it isn't nonsense. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

2011-08-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
lice I'm used to... :-) > Garry > > -----Original Message- > From: Mathias Rösel > Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 5:47 PM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings? > > >I'm thinking theorbo purchase... Where does one get a nylon t

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

2011-08-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
> I suppose you're talking about this: > http://quality1trader.co.uk/musical-instrument/strings/lute/theorbo-bass-lut e- > medium/ You can watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNJaYInbbhs Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admi

[LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
>I'vev been doing a little checking up on Tombeau de Mezangeau and it's >attributed to Ennemond "Vieux" Gaultier rather than Denis - his younger >cousin. No argument about this. Denis took care of both his own and his cousin's music in this edition. "... on se plaint que les copies de

[LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Really interesting.  I'll have a look at flat tuning and see what I can make of it.  Do you happen to know the Fronimo software? Transcripts from one tuning to the other are really easy. Two clicks, and there you are. > When you mention the awkward stretch in measure 8 - would that be the 8th b

[LUTE] Re: Hammering on and snapping off

2011-09-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
>anyone done any studies to see if there are concordances of the same >piece in different tunings and how much this might have been done? I'd be keen on such a study as well. Andi Schlegel has rightly raised the question if the Oeuvres de Vieux Gaultier edition (CNRS) can be considered com

[LUTE] Re: The portrait of Denis Gaultier?

2011-09-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
> That's not Denis Gaultier! > > If it's a Gaultier, then it's Jacques. > see: > http://www.museodelprado.es/en/the-collection/online-gallery/on-line-gallery /obra/man-with-a-lute/?no_cache=1 That's not Jacques! See: http://www.drawingsandprints.com/CurrentExhibition/detail.cfm?ExhibitionID=3

[LUTE] Re: The portrait of Denis Gaultier?

2011-09-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
Was wrong list, here goes again: > So is there actually any reason to believe there is any connection to > any of the Gaultiers? The painting is dated before van Dyck's first journey to London in 1620. It's not Jacques, that much is clear. Neither Denis who still was a teen at the time (and lo

[LUTE] Re: Jacques Gautier

2011-09-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
Yes, and Ron Andrico edited quite a few of them, or so I seem to remember. Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Nancy Carlin > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. September 2011 04:28 > An: Thomas Walker; lute@cs.dart

[LUTE] Melii

2011-09-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Collected Wisdom, What do we know about Pietro Paolo Melii other than that he is mentioned at the court in Vienna in 1612 and 1619 and that leaps in his music caused discussions about assumed extraordinary octave stringings? Have some more details about his life come to light?

[LUTE] Re: Melii

2011-10-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
Obviously, nothing is known so far. Then, what about Gianoncelli? Doni? In a preface, Orlando Christoferetti wrote that what became to be known as French stile brise in the 20^th century, was developed by Italian lutenists long before the French showed up with it. The characteris

[LUTE] Re: Bocquet pieces vids

2011-10-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
I beg to differ. But I think weh ad this discussion, it's in the archives. Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Ron Andrico > Gesendet: Freitag, 21. Oktober 2011 15:48 > An: chriswi...@yahoo.com; lute@cs.d

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Adew Dundee - Scottish Lute Video

2011-10-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Erm, yes, and that's not what's in the Wemyss ms. The Wemyss ms. has edeff (sharp tuning) and dedff (flat tuning), ascribing them their respective names. Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Andreas Schleg

[LUTE] John Danyel

2011-10-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Everybody, not sure if this has been discussed before, as the archives are unavailable currently. In John Danyels 1606 publication, there is a piece on the last pages (22-3) with a special lute tuning. It is a solo piece (variations on Greensleeves), and Danyel gives a chart with the inter

[LUTE] John Danyel

2011-10-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
Sorry for inconvenience ... Dear Everybody, not sure if this has been discussed before, as the archives are unavailable currently. In John Danyels 1606 publication, there is a piece on the last pages (22-3) with a special lute tuning. It is a solo piece (variations on Greensleeves), and Danyel

[LUTE] Re: John Danyel

2011-10-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
Andy, this was meant to go to the list, I suppose? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: andy butler [mailto:akbut...@tiscali.co.uk] Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Oktober 2011 21:22 Mathias Rösel wrote: > > Translated into pitch, the tuning would possibly be: > > 1. B4 - F#4 - D4 -

[LUTE] Re: John Danyel

2011-10-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thank you, everybody who responded! This list is a treasure trove. Yours, Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: John Danyel

2011-10-25 Thread Mathias Rösel
> My guess is > that the "general pitch" at this period was around a tone lower than modern, so > a "G lute" may have been around 67cm string length. I think one of the songs > uses a "bass" lute in (nominal) D, so this may have been quite a big beast. > > The strange tuning used for "The Leaves

[LUTE] Re: theorbo interview

2011-10-31 Thread Mathias Rösel
Found it: http://www.cbc.ca/video/news/audioplayer.html?clipid=2157771804 (24:30--30:00). Thank you for sharing this! Have you got responses, Benjamin? Best, Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von be...@int

[LUTE] Re: theorbo-lute

2011-11-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
The first part of Playford's Harmonia Sacra was published in 1688. That's twelve years after Mace's Musick's Monument which is considered today as old-fashioned in its claim for the 12c double-headed lute as a standard lute. Nevertheless, the 12c double-headed lute still was played in England aroun

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Well, with sheep, prion disease is called scrapie, isn't it, and it was known long before mad cow disease turned up. Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von R. Mattes > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. November 2011 1

[LUTE] Re: Le Roy Dentice and Octave stringing

2011-11-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Neverthelesse the Tune self of the same .F. Is found in the same > compainie, and eight of the greate fift stryng: > which reason could not be in Lutes, tuned after the manner of Fabrice Dentice > the Italian, and other his followers. Where those strynges that satnde twoo and > twoo together, bee

[LUTE] Re: Something old and something new - Conrad Paumann and Gilbert Isbin

2011-11-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Online German translators don't recognise 'beger', 'nit' nor 'mer' as German so I > don't have a clue what the title means. Ich bege[h]r ni[ch]t me[h]r = I do not covet more. Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Something old and something new - Conrad Paumann and Gilbert Isbin

2011-11-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
And, yes, nice and well performed, Stuart! Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Mathias Rösel [mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. November 2011 15:07 > An: 'Lute Net' > Betreff: Re: Something old and something new - Conrad Pa

[LUTE] Re: SAD TRIP----Michael Thames

2011-11-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
I cannot believe this. Does someone know if that mess-age is reliable? Does someone know Michael's whereabouts? Mathias Von: Michael Thames [mailto:michael_tha...@msn.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. November 2011 10:24 An: undisclosed recipients: Betreff: SAD TRIPMichael

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-11-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
> The discussion started on baroque lutes. Not many lute songs with intabulated > parts for those. If any. I'm not aware of lute songs for the 11c / 13c lutes. Mathias If anything, there will be a continuo part. No need to even > discuss transposing: just do it. > > David > > > > -- >

[LUTE] Re: SAD TRIP----Michael Thames

2011-11-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
r 2011 21:05 > An: 'Mathias Rösel'; 'Lute List' > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: SAD TRIPMichael Thames > > Michael writes directly from (a different address), "Eugene, sorry my account > was hacked this is a scam.." > > Eugene > > >

[LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight

2011-12-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
> This discussion feeds into one of my pet theories: That Cabezon's >keyboard tablature could be read by professional vihuelists and >harpers. Cabezon's tab is quite straightforward and logical. Any >thoughts? May I repeat myself: Organ tablature is not a tablature like lute tabla

[LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight

2011-12-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
>Funny, I always looked at it the other way around, that keyboard notion >is tablature: each note refers to a spot on the keyboard. That is so, indeed, with the so-called Italian keyboard tablature which has happened to develop into modern staff notation. In Italian keyboard tablature, eac

[LUTE] Re: Lute of the Month- UGLY!

2011-12-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
> > For players of theorbo or archlute, it has sometimes been the other > > answer. > > > For early music ensemble directors engaging a theorbo player, it is only the > other answer. The other way, I chose my first baroque lute. It had to be a swan-neck, of course. That was 20 years back. I was un

[LUTE] Re: Xmas tunes

2011-12-23 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Christmas Book/CD > > http://www.guitarandlute.com/christmas_lute.html Did I forget to mention? File: /Tablatures/Nun-komm-der-Heiden-Heiland.ft3 Description : Chorale with two beautiful doubles from D-Rou XVII-54, two versions (11c and 10c lutes) You can access this file at the

[LUTE] Dance in time

2012-01-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear everyone, There is a dance in triple time in Panmure 5, fol. 17v-18, that probably is neither a courante nor a sarabande, lacking their chracteristic rhythms. It has hemiolas in cadences, but also other characteristic rhythms, though, like crotchet - minim at some ends of p

[LUTE] Re: Dance in time

2012-01-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Where can I find Panmure 5 so I can get an idea of the music you are talking > about? > I suppose it is for a 10 course lute tunes in one of the transitional tunings. > Do you have a copy or a link? I shall send pdf and midi files to anyone who lets me know they are interested in the piece. Mat

[LUTE] Re: Dance in time

2012-01-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
ar with English tunes of the 1630ies. - Anyone? Mathias > > > > Please find the related files attached. Curious, what you think about it! > > > > Mathias > > > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >> Von: Lex van Sante [mailto:lvansa...@gmail.c

[LUTE] Re: Dance in time

2012-01-10 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Lex, You made my day. Thank you very much! Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von Lex van Sante > Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Januar 2012 11:40 > An: Mathias Rösel; lute mailing list list &

[LUTE] Re: Dance in time

2012-01-10 Thread Mathias Rösel
ountry dance (in brackets). That seemed improbable to me, and that's why I was looking for the correct title. Mathias > ---Messaggio originale--- > > Da: Mathias Rösel > Data: 10/01/2012 17.44.06 > A: 'lute mailing list list' > Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Dance in ti

[LUTE] Re: Some history questions

2012-02-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
>>Puritan? 1670s? With that Unreconstructed Good Time Boy Charles II >back on the throne since 1660? I don't think so! Besides 'Puritanism' >is a much misunderstood concept, thanks to >the 19th century. IIRC the initial question was about the probability of baroque lute music being pla

[LUTE] Re: Announcement of lute for sale

2012-02-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
315 Euros, that'll be the final bid! Howgh! Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im > Auftrag von howard posner > Gesendet: Samstag, 18. Februar 2012 06:55 > An: Lute Net > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Announcement of lute for sal

[LUTE] Re: Ernst Pohlmann

2012-02-22 Thread Mathias Rösel
> OK. thank you. Now I am sure that he died. I am not interesting into buy his > book. I have it already in the library. But do you know something more about his > private library, collection? To which research centre he was attached? To none, but his private library was given tot he library of th

[LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers

2012-03-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Famed Czech radical Josef Skvorecky recently died at 87 in his adopted >land of Canada. >In the Atlantic, JJ Gould remembers Skvorecky through his memoirs, >including a detailed list of the rules for jazz performers during the >Nazi occupatio

[LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers - Ban the Lute!!!

2012-03-14 Thread Mathias Rösel
>Anyway, the question of instruments in church has been debated ad >nauseam. It seems that it was fairly common practice in the 16th >century, and that it was widely accepted in the 17th century with the >advent of motets with continuo accompaniment. "The Lute in Christian >Sp

[LUTE] Re: Wikipedia

2012-03-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Here here. Edit away Monica. > > I'm not a scholar, simply a humble lute player who relies on all sorts of sources > (Grove being one…) for my learning and historical context for my instrument. > Personally I'd prefer Wiki was edited by the scholars that know, rather than > remain out of date or

[LUTE] Re: Being too clever, knowing always "how it is"...

2012-03-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
> I'm not so sure. He may not be right. We have a saying in German, perhaps it's a quote actually, that goes: Intellect is the only fair-distributed thing in the world, as most people think they've got enough of it. Mathias > Dear lutenists, > > after having read every now and then some quite

[LUTE] Re: Nazi rules correction!

2012-03-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Martin Luther, circa 1500, say "Why > should the Devil have all the best music?", and took his lute and recorder to the > German taverns to play his hymns. May I say at least that this is news to me: Luther playing the recorder, and Luther playing and s

[LUTE] Re: Nazi rules correction!

2012-03-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
hen Stubbs > Gesendet: Samstag, 17. März 2012 05:30 > An: Mathias Rösel > Cc: Lute List > Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules correction! > > Reference: > Luther, Biography of a Reformer, by Frederick Nohl, Concordia > Publishing House, 2003. > ISBN 0-7586-0651-6 > >

[LUTE] François Couperin for the theorbo

2012-03-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear everyone, I’m pleased to announce that some more music by François Couperin has been intabulated for the theorbo and has been made available by Christoph Dalitz. Christoph is an expert on arrangements and adaptations. His arrangementments of Couperin's music are of intermediate difficulty. Yo

[LUTE] Re: Nazi rules correction!

2012-03-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
playing the lute in taverns? French lutenists who were caned for attempting to do it in English taverns? That's for Kneipe, I guess ... Best, Mathias > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Stephen Stubbs [mailto:fartrea...@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 18. März 2012 22:38 >

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