[Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

gardening https://communityfoodforests.com/community-food-forests-map/ Best, Joost Schouppe ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

the trees -- again, >> the point is to be a healthy ecology), so they function and operate very >> differently. >> >> >> - Justin >> ___ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >

Re: [Tagging] Confusion bicycle_road <> cyclestreet

-_Beginn_der_Fahrradstra%C3%9Fe,_StVO_1997.svg > > Taginfo: > bicycle_road=yes > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle_road%3Dyes> 7906 > cyclestreet=yes > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cyclestreet%3Dyes> 4076 > > Volker > Padova, Italy >

Re: [Tagging] Confusion bicycle_road <> cyclestreet

n_244_-_Beginn_der_Fahrradstra%C3%9Fe,_StVO_1997.svg > > Taginfo: > bicycle_road=yes > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle_road%3Dyes> 7906 > cyclestreet=yes > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cyclestreet%3Dyes> 4076 > > Volker > Padova, It

Re: [Tagging] Confusion bicycle_road <> cyclestreet

> > So putting the Dutch and Belgian thing together but not the German, that > doesn't make much sense. > > > I read this as a suggestion for a third alternative tag? > > N! :) Just saying that there's similar concepts that could have had the same main tag (and different clarifying ta

Re: [Tagging] leisure=schoolyard

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Re: [Tagging] leisure=schoolyard

#x27;s > parking being excluded, for example). > > Cheers > Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstre

Re: [Tagging] Unverfied Edits, Reverting Tags

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[Tagging] cable:ferry

there is no tag for reaction ferry at all, and the wiki definition of ferry:cable should be changed. -- Joost Schouppe ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wall gardens as ways?

Hi, I made a proposal for facade gardens some time back, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Facade_garden There was quite a bit of discussion here and on its talk page, but I never really followed up on it. Facade garden is really for tiny gardens adjacent to the front wall,

[Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

oute relations might be useful, perhaps just function=recreational/practical or something. -- Joost Schouppe ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Thanks for all the replies. Just a note on verifiability; always assuming they are waymarked: - for car routes, it's pretty obvious whether it's part of a functional network (say A8 or E40) or a pretty network (with a nice name and a roundabout layout) - for cycle networks, in the cases I know, t

[Tagging] shared planter where you can harvest for free

ons? When looking for other examples, I found a Google MyMaps and several umap instances with local gardens. Showing this community that you can "simply map them in OpenStreetMap" would be nice. But first a data model! -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] shared planter where you can harvest for free

ut >they imply some parcel assignment) >- garden:type=community ( >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:garden:type) (with this one >you are close to what you are looking for, but it's not a garden... > > Yours, > > LeTopographeFou > > Le 04/07/201

Re: [Tagging] shared planter where you can harvest for free

I like your suggestion, Jason. Also, indeed I meant the operator of this specific thing is a person, not "let's change the definition of operator=*" :) Op vr 5 jul. 2019 21:28 schreef Jmapb via Tagging : > On 7/5/2019 3:08 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > I read joost's comment as "The operator of this

[Tagging] maxstay=0

this logic Am I reading this right? Am I missing something? What do you think is the best solution: defining maxstay=0 as "you can stay for exactly no time at all" and making most of the existing data wrong? Or saying maxstay=0 means maxstay=default and should hence not be mapped at al

Re: [Tagging] maxstay=0

Thanks Marc, my searching skills failed me again it seems. I've added a little section about maxtay=0 to the wiki. Op ma 15 jul. 2019 om 15:21 schreef marc marc : > Hello, > > Le 15.07.19 à 13:33, joost schouppe a écrit : > > The most common value for maxstay=* is 0. > &

Re: [Tagging] maxstay=0

@ (Su,PH) > > Is there any good reason for not using access:conditional for this case? > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap &l

[Tagging] reviving hollow way

discussion first? Proposal page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hollow_way -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/93

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

Hi, Hollow way is probably a germanism; it's what sunken lanes are literally called in Dutch too. I absolutely agree that we should stick to British English for tags, wherever possible. So if we change the proposal to historic=sunken_lane, then we're all set for voting, right? Almost all the holl

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

Some of the most used historical tags are for things that are just old, not necessarily disused or with another use than the original one. Wayside cross and shrine, monuments, memorials, castles etc. It just seems to signify a special relationship with history, not much more than that. But then th

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

> > I still haven't heard of a procedure to vote on tag A over tag B, so I've >> invented my own. You can vote here: >> >> https://framadate.org/ApOlIj5ePZvrTjz8 >> > > Misses a "none of the above" option. > > In your honour, I have not just added it, I have called that option Something Else __

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pruning (tree management styel)

ards other tree styles. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/pruning -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603>

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Dog poop area (dog_toilet)

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[Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - Dog poop area (dog_toilet)

I've removed the reference to "pets", however in the real world dog toilets are the actual thing and any pet willing to use it is allowed. So I' don't really see the problem. The four options could be moved somewhere else; I just left them for reference. What should I do with them? I'd hate to jus

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Feature Proposal - Voting - Dog poop area (dog_toilet)

Nobody but me voted yet, so I did some more cleaning of the page. There was still a mention of potty_area and there were some suggested extra tags that are unnecessary because they already exist in some form. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pruning (tree management styel)

. But it's > written in such a way that it can easily be extended towards other tree > styles. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/pruning > > -- > Joost Schouppe > OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schoup

[Tagging] default access tag for driveways

wiki could use more guidance about the access tag for this specific road type. (this has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find something relevant) -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joo

Re: [Tagging] default access tag for driveways

So I think I can safely conclude that driveway does not imply any access restrictions by itself, and that a private or destination tag is to be welcomed, depending on the context. But it only really mathers if the way is connected to the road network in two places. I'll adapt the wiki to explicitly

Re: [Tagging] default access tag for driveways

Op ma 30 jul. 2018 16:07 schreef Anton Klim : > Is there a reason to add access tags to the way, when you have a barrier > node that should already hold these tags (lift gate, bollard)? > Seems over complicated. > Then it might indeed not be necessary. These are very often not mapped or not even

[Tagging] micromapping complex level_crossing

mapillary images available for the area. Given how much we like trains, I'm surprised I didn't find a solution straight away, so I'm probably missing something. -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.co

[Tagging] how to tag a salt flat

lt_plains_.2B_intermittent_salt_lakes ) -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStr

Re: [Tagging] how to tag a salt flat

as water is in a lake or tree cover in a wood. So natural=salt_flat might be worthy of existing. 2015-09-30 0:39 GMT+02:00 André Pirard : > On 2015-09-29 17:29, joost schouppe wrote : > > Hi, > > I haven't found much about the subject. A salt flat is a large deposit of > salt.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "you pick" farms and related fruit stands

yond that. > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <h

[Tagging] building=yes for multiple building

. There are a couple of "multiple" values too, which make sense, but is undocumented and maybe overly precise. -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/

Re: [Tagging] AirBnB

Dave, I rented out my own house with AirBnB once, and do not keep a sign out. I would definitely not appreciate my house being marked on a map as a guesthouse because of that. However, as you got the data from a survey, I don't see a problem in those cases. Only a main tag like guesthouse if it i

[Tagging] do aerodromes need a relation?

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Re: [Tagging] do aerodromes need a relation?

> About your proposed use of a relation with a label as node: This is > strongly opposed by map style editors and the "label" role was removed > by me from the (proposed) site relation because of this. > I was unaware of this. Thanks for clearing that up. Can you refer me to the arguments for this

[Tagging] reviving an abandoned proposal

lf :) [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hollow_way [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: How to tag: public lands that are accessed by permit?

ling list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/6

Re: [Tagging] reviving an abandoned proposal

tinfo/tagging > -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/> ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Michelin info

Maybe we can talk publicly about doing something similar with open data?(wegenregister, GRB, etc.) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] using Michelin's road classification (was: Routing in Liège)

> > I did not investigate further (I'm short sighted indeed) but I suggest > that anyone contesting an OSM route compared it with the same routing by > Michelin, tried to find an explanation by comparing my overpass >

Re: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin)

hin a larger section of higher classification'. Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http

Re: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin)

uncalled for. 2016-09-21 12:05 GMT+02:00 Dave F : > > On 21/09/2016 07:51, joost schouppe wrote: > >> >> Using copyrighted material to spot errors in OSM is still copyright >> violation (well, a specialist in copyright should confirm that). >> > > Hmm... Ar

Re: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin)

It wouldn't be hard to prove if this conversation is in the public domain. In the original question, the data use looks much more direct than using it as a source for directed surveying. And it does look like even this is expressly forbidden by the user terms of the mentioned website.

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] non-temporary usage of highway=road

Just had a quick look here in Belgium: we have over a 1000 ways with this tag. This makes it easy to count in your area of interest: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/iBC ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinf

[Tagging] dog toilets

tags. -- Joost @ Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMa

Re: [Tagging] dog toilets

ere? 2016-11-10 1:19 GMT+01:00 John Willis : > > On 9 Nov 2016, at 11:24 PM, joost schouppe > wrote: > > Many cities have special little areas which are specifically meant to be > used as a toilet area for dogs. > > > Sounds like "pet relief areas" you find on

Re: [Tagging] Proper way to tag highways located in "dangerous" areas

tag every highway > > that is inside these areas with any needed/wanted property). > > > > Comments, please? > > > > ___ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.opens

Re: [Tagging] dog toilets

ructure, it's more like a suggested area to let your > animals do their thing. But I suppose an extra tag would do there? > > 2016-11-10 1:19 GMT+01:00 John Willis : > >> >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 11:24 PM, joost schouppe >> wrote: >> >> Many cities have spe

[Tagging] shop=fuel

just use a subtag instead: shop=fuel + fuel:[whatever gas]=yes -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http:

[Tagging] zero waste

/certification/facilities/certification-program/ -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.mee

Re: [Tagging] shop=fuel

> There are general stores (shop= ) that sell fuel too ... Well, that goes for any product and any shop. While your suggestion does make sense, we already have a long list of shop types. No one made this particular suggestion during the fuel-shop discussion (unless I'm mistaken). But it is true t

Re: [Tagging] shop=fuel

2017-01-18 15:33 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > This tag started out being for a very specific type of shop that sells > only one item, motor fuel, in small volume containers. There is a need to > keep shops of this type separate from large full-service facilities that > sell motor fuel in quantitie

Re: [Tagging] zero waste

t; certification:zero-waste.org=yes >> >> >> +1 > > > +1 > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - dog toilets

pets (dogs) urinate and excrete. Unlike dog_park label, the main objective of the area is not that dogs play. It is usually small and fenced areas, but can also just be a designated patch of grass by the side of the road. It is known as pee-can in some countries. Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap

Re: [Tagging] Non-geometrical ways in boundary relations

this townhall should not be added to >>> the boundary relation as a way. That was proposed on the wiki >>> discussion page a few months ago. >>> >> > > _______ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - dog toilets

I got some more comments off-list (and some of them tried mailing this list without being a member, but there seems to be no admin around to allow their contribution). Is it possible to have a vote on number 1 (amenity=dog_toilet) -versus- number 4 (amenity=pet_toilet)? Most people I contacted off

[Tagging] knotted willows

any previous discussions anywhere) natural=tree genus=Salix + management_style=knotted Or something like that? Apparently there's two words in Dutch: - knotwilg: knotted at about 2 meters high - grienden: knotted at a hight of maximum 50 cm -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http:/

Re: [Tagging] knotted willows

=* could then be used to indicate who is keeping the tree pruned. Maybe tree:pruning_style would be more logical? 2017-02-11 13:34 GMT+01:00 Wolfgang Zenker : > Hi, > > * joost schouppe [170211 09:43]: > > One of the defining small landscape elements in Flanders (and probably &

[Tagging] many tiny zoo

) is defined as something within a zoo. So here I'm left confused... -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetu

Re: [Tagging] shop=fashion

gnified has been largely lost. A good example would be village_green. But that is not necessarily a problem, as it is the wiki that explains what a thing is, and not just the tag. Of course nobody is saying we should only map things where a British-English word can be found. -- Joost Schouppe __

[Tagging] electrical cattle grid

Hi, I don't seem to be able to find an alternative for the electrical equivalent to barrier=cattle_grid. So basically some metal plating on the ground, which give electrical shocks to barefeet animals (and humans). Any ideas? -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] electrical cattle grid

My dog agrees it's evil (I didn't know these things existed until the poor beast walked on it). barrier=cattle_grid + cattle_grid=electric is almost exactly what I used, so that sounds reasonable ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https:/

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

In Gent, Belgium, they would also have liked to use access=permit. There are some new situations there where you need a local government permit to pass certain "breakpoints" within the city. In the end, they used access=private because it was the tagging style that would be most useful to people us

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

> Is access by permit not permissive access? No. According to the wiki permissive means "Open to general traffic until such time as the owner revokes the permission which they are legally allowed to do at any time in the future.", while permit means almost the opposite: "closed except for people w

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

Kevin, What I wanted to make clear before is that you are not the only one who thinks access=permit could be useful. Also, don't make the mistake of conflating tagging and OSM-in-general opinion. That said, even if this hivemind of ours (and let me add to that "one of us, one of us, one of us") m

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the most logical tag: - access to a Low Emission Zone - access to certain roads in cities (e.g. this road is accesible to certain motor_vehicle if they ask for a permit: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25728312) It would be

[Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

then make a new wiki page about access:emergency ? Or would it be enough to add a section to the emergency=* wiki page to explain that it can ALSO be used as an implied access:emergency tag? -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

s not > like OSM tagging scheme requires more confusing things) and changing all > pages on wiki describing this tag. > > Just fix the bad link, separate section four meaning as an access tag > makes sense. > > On 30 Oct 2017 11:08 a.m., "joost schouppe" > wrote: &g

Re: [Tagging] confusing wiki on emergency

m? Are there really many places which the emergency > services are explicitly legally prohibited from accessing? > > Adam > > On 31 October 2017 at 09:00, joost schouppe > wrote: > >> Hi Mateusz, >> >> Of course a single bad link is not enough. I also didn

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] how to map a fr:talus?

French talus. > > Cheers > > André. > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > talk...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://ww