[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Jesse Stay
I find if you take it as the rule and not the exception it's much easier to plan. Seems that way lately with Twitter. :-) FWIW, I know you hate hearing this, but Facebook's API pushes changes into a beta staging environment every Tuesday, notifies developers of the changes as they update it, and t

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Ain't it a heap of fun to spend one's long weekend answering support requests from agitated users, due to something you haven't done? LOL You're not alone in that boat. Dewald On Sep 5, 3:10 pm, PJB wrote: > Why on EARTH must you guys consistently break things before every > major holiday week

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread PJB
Actually, before yesterday, Twitter's friends_ids/followers_ids calls were pretty close to being accurate. Now, with this new fix, they are totally off from what is displayed on Twitter.com. So, whatever "fix" was made yesterday, has broken the accuracy of the count (where accuracy == matching

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread PJB
It seems as though you fixed one thing, and broke something else in the process. A large number of our users are complaining that the f/f counts (that we compute from friends_ids() for example) are woefully off (in the order of several thousand) from the counts displayed on Twitter.com. Before y

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Jesse Stay
John, thanks for spending time on this. Any chance we can get a lift on the follow limits for a temporary time so I can catch up a few users that were affected by this? Or, if you want to do it on a per-user basis I can send you the names of the users. Jesse On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:55 AM, John

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Dewald Pretorius
All the time. I have given up on expecting consistency between summary numbers and the actual detail data. Twitter has to do so much data replication for performance reasons, I think it's extremely tough to keep everything in sync. It's like the discrepancies in search results and site rankings

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Rudifa
Hello I am seeing right now (14:45 UTC) discrepancy between the list of my followers as reported by my home page at Twitter.com (which is correct) and the list reported by the API - which seems to be several days old (it includes several followers that I blocked recently). Is anyone else seeing

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Awesome. Thanks John, and also to everyone who made this happen. Dewald On Sep 5, 10:55 am, John Kalucki wrote: > Thanks to the efforts of many working late into a Friday night, we > deployed a fix for this issue starting at about 11pm PDT. The fix was > verified as working in production at abo

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread John Kalucki
Thanks to the efforts of many working late into a Friday night, we deployed a fix for this issue starting at about 11pm PDT. The fix was verified as working in production at about 12:05am PDT. -John Kalucki http://twitter.com/jkalucki Services, Twitter Inc. On Sep 5, 5:36 am, Dewald Pretorius w

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread pgarvie
Using Twitter4J, and what I've been seeing is last night, getFollowersIDs(), including suspended. This AM, the filtering of suspended accounts seems to be working again. On the other hand, getFollowersStatuses() doesn't seem to be filtering out the suspended accounts. pg On Sep 5, 7:36 am, Dew

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-05 Thread Dewald Pretorius
John, Just so we know, is this 5,000 thing going to be fixed over the weekend, or will we have to wait until Tuesday? Dewald On Sep 5, 12:35 am, John Kalucki wrote: > We're aware of the problem with the following API not returning more > than 5,000 followers. Apparently this call has recently

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-04 Thread Jesse Stay
Can Twitter remove the following per hour limit for a little bit after they fix this (at least for whitelisted IPs and/or OAuth)? This has caused us, and I'm sure many other apps to pre-emptively unfollow people that they were not supposed to. This is a BIG problem! I completely agree with Dewald'

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-04 Thread John Kalucki
Several months ago there were multiple subtle problems with consistency in following lists. We've since rolled to a new system that have numerous constraints in place to prevent duplicates and provide much stronger consistency guarantees. There is, however, a known issue around pagination. You ma

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-04 Thread Howard Siegel
There have been times when a friend or follower id has been reported multiple times. Did you check to see if any of the friend or follower ids that you get back were duplicates? - h On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 20:17, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > > For @dewaldp I get, via the API social graph methods w

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-04 Thread John Kalucki
We're aware of the problem with the following API not returning more than 5,000 followers. Apparently this call has recently been unreliable was often timing out and returning 503s. A change to fix the 503s limited the results to 5000 followers prematurely. We're going to get this back to the >500

[twitter-dev] Re: Followers & Friends IDs Are Seriously MESSED Up!

2009-09-04 Thread Dewald Pretorius
For @dewaldp I get, via the API social graph methods with paging: Friends: 764 , Followers: 3,977. While on my web profile the numbers are: Friends: 747 , Followers: 3,911. On Sep 4, 11:56 pm, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > Not only do the social graph calls now suddenly, without any prior > warning