RE: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi, These days I code for Mozilla. Then iron out the IE incompatibilities. mike 2k:)2 ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they a

RE: [WSG] IE4 /Win

2004-06-17 Thread Mike Foskett
Hanni, IE4 isn't a complete horror story though if you don't support Netscape v4.7 why support I.E.? Personally I supply style sheets to I.E. but not to Netscape 4.7 it's too buggy. Though I would find it acceptable to not give I.E. a style sheet. mike 2k:)2 *

[WSG] WANAU: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities

2004-06-17 Thread afdesign
Aussie uni students and staff members may be interested in the Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities (WANAU) http://www.monash.edu.au/groups/accessibility/ WANAU is open to anyone who works or studies at an Australian university and would like to get involved in promoting accessi

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Joe Leech
http://www.itweek.co.uk/News/1155868 : Ubizen has advised computer users to switch to alternative web browsers like Netscape or Mozilla for the moment. I think the main problem with switching browsers is visible right there on the page. The header breaks in non IE browsers. If the user is to

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
I guess it depends on the kinds of sites you visit (and perhaps what you feed your dog) - I come across very few these days that don't look ok in Firefox. And I don't just visit the sites of web standards advocates, honest! Even all four of the internet banking applications I use work fine in Firef

[WSG] XHTML Transitional -> Strict

2004-06-17 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: XHTML Transitional -> Strict Hello all, I was hoping one of you could tell me, or know any url's that would be helpful on moving from XHTML Transitional to Strict. What are the main things to look out for when moving over? What is allowed in Transitional that has to be removed for str

Re: [WSG] XHTML Transitional -> Strict

2004-06-17 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El jue, 17-06-2004 a las 11:00, Jamie Mason escribió: > Hello all, > I was hoping one of you could tell me, or know any url's that would be > helpful on moving from XHTML Transitional to Strict. > This is quite relevant :) http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archives/xhtml_10_strict_not_ready_for_p

Re: [WSG] XHTML Transitional -> Strict

2004-06-17 Thread Mark Harwood
Guess the best thing to do would be to change the doctype of one of you current sites, run it through the 1.0 Strick Validator and then see where you have gone wrong... I do almost all my sites in 1.0 STRICK so feel free to look at a few of them www.phunky.co.uk/2004/ www.phunky.co.uk/2003/ www.

Re: [WSG] XHTML Transitional -> Strict

2004-06-17 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Title: XHTML Transitional -> Strict Strict isnt much different from Trrans   no theres a _javascript_ replacement.   other than theres a cuopkle of things but W3C will tell you about them. Simple.   Camz www.t94xr.net.nz - Original Message - From: Jamie Mason To: '[EMAIL PR

Re: [WSG] XHTML Transitional -> Strict

2004-06-17 Thread Justin French
On 17/06/2004, at 7:00 PM, Jamie Mason wrote: Hello all, I was hoping one of you could tell me, or know any url's that would be helpful on moving from XHTML Transitional to Strict. What are the main things to look out for when moving over? What is allowed in Transitional that has to be removed

RE: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Nancy Johnson
Most people I believe are unaware that there are multiple browsers. If this warning hits the network news, it may raise some awareness among the average computer user. Most people have no idea what web standards are. Nancy Johnson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Tim Lucas
Nancy Johnson spoke the following wise words on 17/06/2004 10:26 PM EST: Most people have no idea what web standards are. And why should they? How much of the POP or HTTP standard does a user need to know? I believe it is our job to use and spread web standards for the bettering of the web for *

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Mordechai Peller
Nancy Johnson wrote: Most people I believe are unaware that there are multiple browsers. I think most people have at least heard of Netscape. How much beyond that. it's hard to say. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See htt

[WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread Ian Fenn
Hello, I need help from more experienced hands. :-/ I viewed http://www.chopstix.com/ from a client's place today and the right-hand column appeared underneath the middle column. The browser was Windows IE6.0 and the screen resolution was 1280x1024. I changed the screen resolution to 1024x768 but

Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Mordechai Peller
Tim Lucas wrote: Nancy Johnson spoke the following wise words on 17/06/2004 10:26 PM EST: Most people have no idea what web standards are. And why should they? How much of the POP or HTTP standard does a user need to know? While it can be helpful for users to know what they are and what they are

[WSG] Fw: Centering Image

2004-06-17 Thread Maureen Beattie
I have a two column fluid design with header and footer. On one short page after closing the #main div I want to center a picture across the page under both the nav and main div. On previous pages I have a class "clear" after the main div and before the footer so I placed the image between

Re: [WSG] Fw: Centering Image

2004-06-17 Thread Mike Rainey
Again, IE does it wrong. text-align:center is only supposed to align text, but IE uses it to align everyting the style is set to. Try adding this to the styles for the div that controls the image: width: 650px; margin: 0 auto; That should align it. > > From: "Maureen Beattie" <[EMAI

Re: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread Mordechai Peller
Ian Fenn wrote: I changed the screen resolution to 1024x768 but no change. It's ill advised to design for a particular resolution, especially a high one. Any ideas on what may be the cause of the problem? I haven't looked for a solution yet, but I did find another problem. While it looks f

Re: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread gary menzel
I have not looked into in detail but I can confirm that on my Laptop (IBM A31p) the behaviour exists. I can also tell you that I am using larger fonts (which impacts EVERY web page I go to). I am on 1280x1024 and using IE. On Firebird/fox (0.6.1) on the same machine it works properly. Unless yo

RE: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread Ian Fenn
Mordechai Peller wrote: > It's ill advised to design for a particular resolution, especially a > high one. I changed the resolution as I was aware that I had tested the design in a variety of resolutions up to 1024x768 and I wanted to see if the increased resolution was the cause of the problem.

RE: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread Ian Fenn
Gary Menzel wrote: > I have not looked into in detail but I can confirm that on my Laptop > (IBM A31p) the behaviour exists. I can also tell you that I am using > larger fonts (which impacts EVERY web page I go to). I am on > 1280x1024 and using IE. Gary, that would make perfect sense - my clie

Re: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread Mordechai Peller
Ian Fenn wrote: I need help from more experienced hands. :-/ I'm not sure I qualify, and I've only been able to give the code a brief look, but I think I can at least put you on the right path. For starters, it's a lot easier to debug code which is properly indented. You want to condense it to s

Re: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread RC Pierce
"" Hmmm... I fixed the above simply by re-ordering the css... Some days CSS just gets me "" There might be something in that, you know. I'm a novice, myself, and have so much to learn, especially when it comes to the in's and out's of CSS. Opera seems to be the most dependent on order, or so I

Re: [WSG] Site check please

2004-06-17 Thread dean burge
i'm not sure if this little nuggest is of relevance in this case for the site check, but while on the topic of css specificity... http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/cascade.html#specificity /d RC Pierce wrote: "" Hmmm... I fixed the above simply by re-ordering the css... Some days CSS just gets me "" The

[WSG] Site Check / Improvements

2004-06-17 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
I would appreciate feedback on the following (personal) site (please disregard previous posting): http://www.bureke.com.au/ (temporary address) The main CSS page is at: http://www.bureke.com.au/styles/global.css The site is valid XHTML 1.0 and CSS. I have checked on WIN IE 5.0 and 6, Safari 1.2.

[WSG] Order of a state (link, visited, etc) styles in a stylesheet

2004-06-17 Thread Nick Lo
This question is not really very easily Googlable so I'm posting it here. I vaguely remember reading that the order in which a state styles appeared in a stylesheet was important. I made a rough memory recall thingy: LoVe HAte (not an acronym but must have some official name) to stand for: a:

Re: [WSG] Order of a state (link, visited, etc) styles in a stylesheet

2004-06-17 Thread russ - maxdesign
> Does the order matter? Yes! read here: http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/selectors/p_class_s electors.html > If so why and is my order above correct? Yes, your order was correct > Do we need to have all states styled? No you do not need to style all states Russ The

RE: [WSG] Order of a state (link, visited, etc) styles in a stylesheet

2004-06-17 Thread Seona Bellamy
Yes, to the best of my knowledge that is correct: order does matter (although only in some browsers I think) and that is the correct order. And I think that if you don't style everything, it takes the value for the last one in the order (e.g. if you don't style active, it will assume the properties

[WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread Craig Stump
I don't think this has been posted yet - but for those that don't know, FireFox 0.9 is now officially out. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/g

Re: [WSG] Site Check / Improvements

2004-06-17 Thread Maureen Beattie
Sarah I checked on WinIE6 and everything looks to be sitting where it should. I only looked at the first page so far and from what I have seen it is a beautiful site with a simplicity of style that really stands out from the rest. A real advertisement for using standards - congratulations. Maure

Re: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out - web dev extension

2004-06-17 Thread Mariusz Stankiewicz
I recommend downloading the Web Developer extension for firefox. How did I ever live without it! Marz. Craig Stump wrote: I don't think this has been posted yet - but for those that don't know, FireFox 0.9 is now officially out. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ *

Re: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:44:35 +1000, Craig Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think this has been posted yet - but for those that don't know, > FireFox 0.9 is now officially out. Make sure you completely uninstall any previous versions first - and some people are reporting that it doesn't w

Re: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/17/04 8:24 PM "Kay Smoljak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:44:35 +1000, Craig Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't think this has been posted yet - but for those that don't know, >> FireFox 0.9 is now officially out. > > Make sure you completely uninstall

Re: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread Peter Asquith
Kay Smoljak wrote: On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:44:35 +1000, Craig Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think this has been posted yet - but for those that don't know, FireFox 0.9 is now officially out. Make sure you completely uninstall any previous versions first - and some people are repor

RE: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread Amit Karmakar
Yes uninstall all previous versions and then install the new 0.9 in std mode and then add on chris' web developer extension. Works fine. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kay Smoljak Sent: Friday, 1

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-06-17 Thread Clements, Sheree
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Re: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
> I've installed it on XP and Win2K with no bother. A mate of mine lost > his bookmarks during the upgrade but the key seems to be to make sure > Firefox is shut down before attempting the upgrade. The release notes actually say you have to uninstall any previous versions first, as the profile dir

[WSG] OT: Next Bris meeting - is "Rudy" out there?

2004-06-17 Thread Gary Menzel
Apologies to the list for this (slightly) OT post but the Brisbane organisers were hoping that (we think) "Rudy" from the Gold Coast could get in touch with us regarding the presentation he has volunteered for next months meeting. Reponses directly to me - from Rudy (or anyone that knows him that

Thread closed : Re: [WSG] FireFox 0.9 is out

2004-06-17 Thread James Ellis
People, Discussion of installation of Firefox is for http://www.mozillazine.org, rather than here. Discussion of browser support for your pages is fine. If you'd like to put the Web Developer extension (and similar) up on the wsg site resources section then go for it. Cheers James *

Re: [WSG] Inheritance question

2004-06-17 Thread Tim Yang
Thanks for the reply Justin. I must have been mistaken about that forced inheritance thing. Would have been nice to have it, though. Tim On Thursday, Jun 17, 2004, at 14:33 Asia/Kuala_Lumpur, Justin French wrote: On 17/06/2004, at 1:11 PM, Tim Yang wrote: I remember reading about a syntax that

[WSG] invalid xhtml

2004-06-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
Amidst all the hubhub about Standards and Validation, some people are arguing that they use XHTML served correctly as application/xhtml+xml to ensure that their documents validate. Their reasoning is: if I make a mistake in my code, browsers will fail to render the documents. This is partially