Re: [Zope] Where can I install Zope?

2000-05-28 Thread George Donnelly
it can be run on a virtual host its just that zope is a long running process and therefore uses up a lot of resources. so some hosts dont like it. you can search at zope.org for some official zope hosts that will provide you a vhost account with zope already installed. alternatively if you are wi

Re: [Zope] PROPOSAL: Online chat with Jim and Paul

2000-05-28 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 07:56:42PM +0100, Steve Alexander wrote: > Paul Everitt wrote: > > I propose an IRC chat on Wednesday with Jim Fulton and me. > > Try and pick a time that's not *too* late at night for us Europeans. Don't worry, I'll see to that... I live in The Netherlands. -- Martij

Re: [Zope] E-Commerce solution using Python and Zope.

2000-05-28 Thread Terry Kerr
Graham Chiu wrote: > > > >these problems were fixed...it was only a problem initially caused by an > >upgrade. > > > > Hi, > > A couple of other things. On your front page, the non-hilighted 'demo' > image is broken. If you go to www.adroit.com there are more broken images. > You may not be see

[Zope] Another question

2000-05-28 Thread Patrick J.M. Keane
By default, when a new instance of a ZClass is created, it is dropped into the same directory as the calling forms and instance creation methods... Is there an easy way to designate the final location for the instance. Say, as an example that I had administrative methods and documents all under

[Zope] RE: problems with NTUserFolder.

2000-05-28 Thread Jay, Dylan
I'm a little confused over this. >From your previous mail I understood that jcNTUserFolder was to be used only behind IIS. It interpreted the REMOTE_USER var passed in after challenge/response authentication by IIS and made this into a Zope user. Now your talking about jcForceAuth and saying that

Re: [Zope] M$soft

2000-05-28 Thread Henny van der Linde
Hi, > Henny, thanks for your answer. > > In fact, my problem is another thing. I have Zope works fine with > PostgreSQL, I want to do the oposite direction, I want that the > SQL-server send information to the PostgreSQL. After that Zope will have > to access de SQL-server to input information.

[Zope] Duplicate messages

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Sorry about the continued dupes folks, I'm trying to flush the sendmail mqueue on the mail list server, and its processing rules are not as smart as I would have hoped. Hopefully once the flush is done we'll be back to normal... ___ Zope maillist - [

[Zope] Where can I install Zope?

2000-05-28 Thread Darin Mosier
I just found out that I cannot run executable files on my server. I have a 9NetAve.net virtual hosting account. They tell me I cannot run Zope on the server. Does anyone know this to be true? (Will not run on a virtual host) Do I have to have my own server? If so could someone suggest a

[Zope] LocalFS

2000-05-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Dear Jonothan, thank you for LocalFS! If you had not created it, I would have done it. However, I must admit, mine would not have been as nice as yours. I have attached a small patch that allows "Local File System" and its content to be cataloged. There are still some open issues I want to dis

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Are Python Products considered implementation level? Or another question. What are the current reasons that Perl Products are a no no? Where are the lines for having other languages being first class citizens of Zope without them being "implementation languages"? I think this also goes back to

Re: [Zope] Hot backups

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough
Patrick, as the Data.fs file is always appended to (as opposed to being overwritten in places), I think you should be OK backing it up on the fly. "Patrick J.M. Keane" wrote: > > Is there any facility in Zope for doing a hot backup, without shuting > down zope, taking a backup copy of var -- can

Re: [Zope] PROPOSAL: Online chat with Jim and Paul

2000-05-28 Thread Steve Alexander
Paul Everitt wrote: > > I propose an IRC chat on Wednesday with Jim Fulton and me. Try and pick a time that's not *too* late at night for us Europeans. -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
mindlace wrote: > I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration" Does MailHost do recieves as well as sends? > > My dream would be for Zope to pipe an email address to a specific > > object/method without the need for any external mail servers or > > scripts... > > Making Zope an

Re: [Zope] Hadar's Thoughts on Perl for Zope (LONG)

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I would like to thank Paul, Jim and Hadar for expressing their opinions, desires and goals for Zope in a level headed and rational manner which did not necessitate the putting down of others opinions. This kind of leadership at DC for Zope is one of the greatest encouragements I have for using Zo

[Zope] Hot backups

2000-05-28 Thread Patrick J.M. Keane
Is there any facility in Zope for doing a hot backup, without shuting down zope, taking a backup copy of var -- can this result in inconsistencies in the internal DB, or does it use something mystical to prevent corruption? If not, what other options exist for this? Thanks Patrick __

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I would like to echo what Dieter wrote here. We need to encourage people who write products or other extensions to Zope in writing cleanly, clearly defined extensions which can be used in a black box manner. If each product had a management interface in which it's options could be configured and

[Zope] O'Reilly Book on Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Andyman
Hey, a few month ago I read on this list that there will be an O'Reilly Book on Zope. I am waiting for that book! How far is it? Andyman ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML e

RE: [Zope] Building ZPyGreSQLDA on Linux

2000-05-28 Thread Charlie Derr
My problem fits under this subject so i thought i'd hijack it :-] I have redhat 6.1, and i've installed and gotten postgresql 7.0 working okay (at least i can create tables at a psql prompt and insert data). I have zope 2.1.6 and after untarring the ZPyGreSQLDA, the README.txt file says to do t

Re: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Paul Everitt wrote: > > Adam wrote: > > What makes me most uncomfortable about this is the opportunity > > cost. Every hour of development time integrating Perl is one > > less hour > > As I tried to mention in my "Redux" post a few moments ago, this isn't > the case. ActiveState is doing the

[Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] PROPOSAL: Online chat with Jim and Paul

2000-05-28 Thread Bill Anderson
Paul Everitt wrote: > > Howdy folks. It's clear that we were unclear in communicating the Perl > For Zope announcement. What this needs is a little...clarity! > > I propose an IRC chat on Wednesday with Jim Fulton and me. The topic > will be "What Are Methods and How Does Perl Fit In?" I'll

[Zope] Deprecation of ?

2000-05-28 Thread Kevin Dangoor
I've noticed that just about every new Zope user gets bitten by == and == . Messages reflecting this confusion come to the Zope list frequently. Everyone appreciates the shorthand, and everyone does eventually learn the difference between and . Perhaps it would be better to use and

Re: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I have kept silent on this issue while watching comments fly by. I'll agree with a comment Paul made about passions being high and that can be a good thing. Disagreements are sometimes inevitable, however we do not have to be disagreeable. It seems that many here who do not share the concerns of

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
"Dan L. Pierson" wrote: > It has been noted a number of times that the current MailHost can and > should be replaced with one based on the standard smtplib module. A > patch is available somewhere and it's rumored to be in Zope 2.2. It is in 2.2 :-) > > My dream would be for Zope to pipe an em

Re: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
Paul Everitt wrote: > You're absolutely right on this. Amos' post recently described the > various things in various stages of release that should give some hope > for the situation. These things really are an improvement. I'm > crossing my fingers that this turns into a torrent of material tha

[Zope] PROPOSAL: Online chat with Jim and Paul

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
Howdy folks. It's clear that we were unclear in communicating the Perl For Zope announcement. What this needs is a little...clarity! I propose an IRC chat on Wednesday with Jim Fulton and me. The topic will be "What Are Methods and How Does Perl Fit In?" I'll announce time and location later

[Zope] ZCatalog, FieldIndex, reindex problem (long)

2000-05-28 Thread Deb Richardson
Hi all. I've been playing with creating custom Catalog Aware ZClasses for the last couple of days (following the various HowTos and tutorials), and I've run into a problem which has me stumped. I've been through all the documentation I could find, plus as many of the list archives I could deal w

RE: [Zope] Perl Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
Adam wrote: > What makes me most uncomfortable about this is the opportunity > cost. Every hour of development time integrating Perl is one > less hour As I tried to mention in my "Redux" post a few moments ago, this isn't the case. ActiveState is doing the engineering. > working on other pa

RE: [Zope] ANN: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
Bill wrote: > Now, for those still reading... some technical issues. > > Have you SEEN perl's OO code?? I have actually compared perl > and python > objects, and even my anti-python friends (they are decreasing very > quickly) admit that perl's handling of objects stinks to high > orbit. It >

Re: [Zope] newbie question: parameter passing for ZSQL Object

2000-05-28 Thread Stephan Richter
>With , Zope gives me following error message: If the parameters are from another SQL statement, then the SQL method will not find them, since not the entire namespace is sent. Try: pvalueX can be also a variable. If your variables are called paramX, then the following will work: That is

RE: [Zope] Re: [Zope-Annce] ANN: Perl For Zope - why I'm bummed

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
Roman wrote: > Perhaps this is a disadvantage to the DC company-owned open-source > project model. They will make bad decisions based on potential > profit. I wanted to address this specifically. This is, in the abstract, a legitimate concern that comes up repeatedly about Netscape/Mozilla.

[Zope] acquisition and access control

2000-05-28 Thread Oliver Frommel
Hi, I have implemented a hierarchical access control with the following scheme: given the structure /a/b/c/d write access is granted if the AUTHENTICATED_USER has a role identical to the folder name or one of the parent folders, i.e. a user with role b can change contents of folders b, c, and d,

[Zope] REDUX: Perl For Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
Howdy folks. Below I'd like to respond to some of the points brought up in this thread, provide more information about our motivation, and even offer something! First, this debate, though passions are running high, is a Very Good Thing. I'm stunned and honored that the passions are high. Peop

RE: [Zope] FW: trying to connect zope to m/s access 2000 d/b

2000-05-28 Thread Richard Folwell
> am using windows 98 & have constructed a ms access 2000 db that i have been > trying to connect to via zope. wasn't sure so i downloaded zodbc db adapter. You will need something like the Z ODBC Database Connection. Someone has also contributed a direct Jet Zope DA product, which should be be

[Zope] Hadar's Thoughts on Perl for Zope (LONG)

2000-05-28 Thread Hadar Pedhazur
It's been a while since I've communicated directly with the Zope community, and I am truly sorry for that. I have been so busy, that I have actually disengaged from the mailing lists, something I was hoping to avoid doing. I have maintained the same level of involvement with Digital Creations, and

[Zope] FYI: Recap of Perl For Zope thread

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
This has been a wonderful and useful discussion. I'd like to summarize some of the points made, and on the next post, give some more information about what we're trying to accomplish. First, I'm surprised nobody flamed me for the stupid linewrapping. All I can say: Outlook. :^) On to the summ

Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-28 Thread Chris McDonough
All, Sorry about the downage. We believe Zope.org and friends (the mail list server, et. al.) were unable to be reached from about 7:30PM EST yesterday (Friday) to 11:00AM EST today (Saturday). Another PC on the same subnet as the primary DNS server for zope.org took its address, and the second

Re: [Zope] Building ZPyGreSQLDA on Linux

2000-05-28 Thread Hung Jung Lu
>From: "Cary O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Ok, the build procedure can't find the Makefile supplied >by the standard python install (the python-development package >if you are installing via RPMS). It looks as if you >have python installed in /u/c2/hjlu/lwc_zope... rather than >/usr/local/... or

Re: [Zope] Re: Perl and Zope

2000-05-28 Thread Paul Everitt
(Note: I pulled a Guido, making this announcement before going on the road for two days. I've spent about three hours compiling a blanket response, but it seems that I have another two more before I'm done!) Tom Neff wrote: > My primary worry (if you're listening, Digicool) is that integrating

[Zope] FW: trying to connect zope to m/s access 2000 d/b

2000-05-28 Thread Michael Douglass
-Original Message- From: Michael Douglass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 29 May 2000 1:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: trying to connect zope to m/s access 2000 d/b am using windows 98 & have constructed a ms access 2000 db that i have been trying to connect to via zope.

[Zope] Hey...

2000-05-28 Thread Dr Watt
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Re: [Zope] ? multimail features

2000-05-28 Thread J. Michael Mc Kay
Actually it's an improvement.. went from two to five and now three. - Original Message - From: "Dimitris Andrakakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] ? > > Anyone else getting 5 copies of the same message, or is it

[Zope] RE: HTML EDITORS

2000-05-28 Thread Luis Cortes
Looks good, How do you get it "tidy" from complaining about dtml tags??? > > > I'd like to third that but Can't because GVIM doesn't have a FTP client. > > If your using Win32 take a look at HTMLKit (www.chami.com). It's a free > HomeSite thingy, it's brilliant. > _

[Zope] Help Executing "install"

2000-05-28 Thread Darin Mosier
I'm trying to get zope installed on my Unix server. I have untared the main file and everything is on the server in a local directory. My problem is I can't execute the file "install" from the server. Can someone please tell me the program or terminal I use to login my Unix server. Thanks

Re: [Zope] Building ZPyGreSQLDA on Linux

2000-05-28 Thread Hung Jung Lu
>From: Daryl Tester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Let me try again, does any of you guys have a "config" subfolder inside >your > > /usr/lib/python1.5/ folder? > >Yes. For the record (RedHat 6.1): > >[dt@nipnyep dt]$ ls /usr/lib/python1.5/config/ >MakefileSetup.local config.c.in makesetu

Re: [Zope] Images and tag tag

2000-05-28 Thread Michael Bernstein
peter wrote: > > I use the nifty Image object and an extra tag to it. > like this > > > But what I want to do is this: > ONMOUSEUP="document.bgColor='#FFCCFF'" SRC="myimage_gif" width=118 height=77 > border=0> > > I have tried > > This is not supported the tag tag. Only border, width, height

Re: [Zope] zcatalog & keyerror 30

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
Try the patching described in the following message: http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/dev-archive.nsf/ByKey/C15EB30D0FAF1057 cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HT

Re: [Zope] Building ZPyGreSQLDA on Linux

2000-05-28 Thread Daryl Tester
Hung Jung Lu wrote: > Trust me, and please take the time to verify yourself, and let me repeat > once and for all: the "config" subfolder is a deprecated feature in Python. > It's gone. Bye bye to "config". It no longer exists in Python distribution > 1.5.2. OK - I just pulled down a _fresh_ cop

Re: [Zope] ?

2000-05-28 Thread Dimitris Andrakakis
> Anyone else getting 5 copies of the same message, or is it just me? Nope, its just you... I only get 3 copies ! You're in the exclusive members club or something ? :-) Dimitris Andrakakis http://atlas.central.ntua.gr:8000/~mc94068 ___ Zope maillist

[Zope] zcatalog & keyerror 30

2000-05-28 Thread Jon Cheyne
Hi. Looked for but couldn't find any documentation on what these errors mean exactly. I cannot consistently reproduce them but they occur after editing a catalog aware zclass instance when you change indexed fields. The trace back is below. Both are resolved if you manually update the catalog

[Zope] SV: [Zope] HTML EDITORS

2000-05-28 Thread Peter Bengtsson
Homesite 4.5.1 is very recommended one one very good reason and that is that you can in detail define their color and closing tag. For example: You can specify that ends with a You can of course also specify how to color code different tags to seperate DTML from HTML -Ursprungligt meddel

Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-28 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Sat, 27 May 2000, Graham Chiu wrote: > Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon. > > Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking > about doing ? No - some neighbors on our colo misclaimed our addresses. I'll let someone who knows the situation better fill

[Zope] SQL returns as ?

2000-05-28 Thread Richard Smith
Say I have a query like.. SELECT * FROM foo; Can I, in Zope have the results come back so I can use then as in other statements. Like have a link to update a row at the end of a table ? If so can someone give me an example ? Thanks Richard _

Re: [Zope] Zope.org down

2000-05-28 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Sat, May 27, 2000 at 07:39:58PM +1300, Graham Chiu wrote: > Hmm. zope.org has been down most of the afternoon. > > Not that Friday afternoon change over to Zeo that they were talking > about doing ? No, we had a somewhat severe DNS problem. The zope.org domain nameserver happens to be the