Re: [AI] Sign of the times

2015-05-01 Thread nidhi goyal
Yes Shiv, it will be quite a challenge but I guess that would be the same if
a hearing and speech impaired person visited Dining in the Dark.

I would love for someone in this group who has learnt sign language and has
interacted independently with the hearing and speech impaired to share their
experiences- challenges and ease.
Hoping to hear from someone
Cheers,
Nidhi Goyal
Disability and gender rights activist
I tweet @saysnidhigoyal



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Subject: [AI] Sign of the times

A great idea and initiative! However, how will blind people access this
place???

 

Source:

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/others/Sign-of-the-times/articleshow/4712
7593.cms?prtpage=1

Sign of the times

 

 

By Benita Fernando, Mumbai Mirror | May 2, 2015, 05.03 AM IST

 

 

Sign of the times

 

(Left to right) Steward Rohit Patil, hostess Baljeet Kaur, head of training
Clyde Castellino with Anuj Shah and Prashant Issar

 

City gets its first eatery with deaf-mute only service staff, encouraging
guests to place orders using sign language.

 

If you wish to order a bowl of piquant kaffir rasam at Powai's just-launched
Mirchi and Mime (MM), you are going to have to interlock your pinkies into
a 'S' before you raise your index, middle and ring fingers of one hand.
Staying on for main course? Tell the steward you want the guinea fowl inside
out by making a 'T' with your index fingers, and then the number 8. 

 

If that's exactly what Rohit Patil ends up bringing to your table 20 minutes
later, without you having uttered a word, it's because the restaurant's
service staff of 27, all hearing and speech impaired, have been training to
have their service down to pat for the last 14 weeks. 

 

Owned by Anuj Shah and Prashant Issar, the 80-seater offers a pan-Indian
menu in a fine-dining setup where a massive wall pays homage to traditional
cooking techniques with framed brass ladles and ancient scrapers. Inside the
kitchen, dessert chef Mahesh Chinde carries his disability lightly on his
shoulders as he puts together a portion of sitaphal panna cotta. 

 

The idea to keep sign language as the mainstay of service at their first
establishment (the duo insists it's one of 21 they plan to roll out in
India, and possibly abroad) came to Issar when he came across Signs
Restaurant staffed by deaf waiters in Toronto's Yonge and Wellesley area.
Issar, whose 20-yearlong of hospitality experience, including an association
with London's Masala Zone and Michelin-starred Amaya as GM, says he realised
that the hearing-and-speech impaired not only make for focused talent with
little to distract them, they almost always are competent non-verbal
communicators. He insists they have been hired for their ability, not
disabilities. We wished to present Indian food creatively while helping
develop employable skills, he says. 

 

All picked from Chembur's Rochiram T Thadani School for Hearing Handicapped
and the National Society for Equal Opportunities for the Handicapped
(NASEOH), the staff has been trained by Dr Reddy's Foundation and Clyde
Castellino, MM's head of training. 

 

For this assignment, Castellino had to learn Indian Sign Language from
scratch. Shah considers it a valuable investment, arguing that hiring the
disabled is not part of the firm's CSR; they make up their core resource. 

 

And so, animated faces, dancing eyes and flying fingers are an everyday
thing at MM. Issar's arrival is indicated by air-drawing a tattoo on the
forearm; Shah, by his spiked hair; Castellino, by an earring, and 21-yearold
hostess, Baljeet Kaur, whose family of five is speech-and-hearing impaired
too, by her curls. 

 

Not just the staff, the eatery also encourages guests to indulge in
gestures. Their imaginative menu carries simple 2-step sketches of signs
next to corresponding dishes that customers can follow. A simple gesture
glossary also helps indicate nuances of taste, including salt and spice. It
gets even more interesting when choosing meats. The fingers must flutter if
you crave fish or mimic a hen's beak for a portion of chicken. For the more
officious meetings, the manager is happy to present you with a printed set
menu, and no, it's not uncouth to point-and-order here. 

 

We want our service to be as seamless as that at a regular restaurant, and
ensure our food is the cornerstone, hopes Issar. 

 

Ground Floor, Transocean House, Lake Boulevard, Hiranandani Gardens, Powai.
Call: 41415151. Opens today.

 

Regards,

 

Shiv



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[AI] Sign of the times

2015-05-01 Thread Shiv
A great idea and initiative! However, how will blind people access this
place???

 

Source:

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/others/Sign-of-the-times/articleshow/4712
7593.cms?prtpage=1

Sign of the times

 

 

By Benita Fernando, Mumbai Mirror | May 2, 2015, 05.03 AM IST

 

 

Sign of the times

 

(Left to right) Steward Rohit Patil, hostess Baljeet Kaur, head of training
Clyde Castellino with Anuj Shah and Prashant Issar

 

City gets its first eatery with deaf-mute only service staff, encouraging
guests to place orders using sign language.

 

If you wish to order a bowl of piquant kaffir rasam at Powai's just-launched
Mirchi and Mime (MM), you are going to have to interlock your pinkies into
a 'S' before you raise your index, middle and ring fingers of one hand.
Staying on for main course? Tell the steward you want the guinea fowl inside
out by making a 'T' with your index fingers, and then the number 8. 

 

If that's exactly what Rohit Patil ends up bringing to your table 20 minutes
later, without you having uttered a word, it's because the restaurant's
service staff of 27, all hearing and speech impaired, have been training to
have their service down to pat for the last 14 weeks. 

 

Owned by Anuj Shah and Prashant Issar, the 80-seater offers a pan-Indian
menu in a fine-dining setup where a massive wall pays homage to traditional
cooking techniques with framed brass ladles and ancient scrapers. Inside the
kitchen, dessert chef Mahesh Chinde carries his disability lightly on his
shoulders as he puts together a portion of sitaphal panna cotta. 

 

The idea to keep sign language as the mainstay of service at their first
establishment (the duo insists it's one of 21 they plan to roll out in
India, and possibly abroad) came to Issar when he came across Signs
Restaurant staffed by deaf waiters in Toronto's Yonge and Wellesley area.
Issar, whose 20-yearlong of hospitality experience, including an association
with London's Masala Zone and Michelin-starred Amaya as GM, says he realised
that the hearing-and-speech impaired not only make for focused talent with
little to distract them, they almost always are competent non-verbal
communicators. He insists they have been hired for their ability, not
disabilities. We wished to present Indian food creatively while helping
develop employable skills, he says. 

 

All picked from Chembur's Rochiram T Thadani School for Hearing Handicapped
and the National Society for Equal Opportunities for the Handicapped
(NASEOH), the staff has been trained by Dr Reddy's Foundation and Clyde
Castellino, MM's head of training. 

 

For this assignment, Castellino had to learn Indian Sign Language from
scratch. Shah considers it a valuable investment, arguing that hiring the
disabled is not part of the firm's CSR; they make up their core resource. 

 

And so, animated faces, dancing eyes and flying fingers are an everyday
thing at MM. Issar's arrival is indicated by air-drawing a tattoo on the
forearm; Shah, by his spiked hair; Castellino, by an earring, and 21-yearold
hostess, Baljeet Kaur, whose family of five is speech-and-hearing impaired
too, by her curls. 

 

Not just the staff, the eatery also encourages guests to indulge in
gestures. Their imaginative menu carries simple 2-step sketches of signs
next to corresponding dishes that customers can follow. A simple gesture
glossary also helps indicate nuances of taste, including salt and spice. It
gets even more interesting when choosing meats. The fingers must flutter if
you crave fish or mimic a hen's beak for a portion of chicken. For the more
officious meetings, the manager is happy to present you with a printed set
menu, and no, it's not uncouth to point-and-order here. 

 

We want our service to be as seamless as that at a regular restaurant, and
ensure our food is the cornerstone, hopes Issar. 

 

Ground Floor, Transocean House, Lake Boulevard, Hiranandani Gardens, Powai.
Call: 41415151. Opens today.

 

Regards,

 

Shiv



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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread P L Varma
i personally used a speech synthesiser called speaqualizer a product of 
american printing house for the blind.

i used it for ten years from1990 to 2000 on a dos platform.

- Original Message - 
From: Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again



Hi,
Guffran Sir,
Firstly, glad to see that you are now onboard the NVDA Users list.
Now, coming to your actual points:
Which form field in particular on which webpage are you talking about?
In terms of web support, NVDA is more or less indisputantly the
winner.
Regarding mouseover links, raise that on the NVDA Users list, I'm not
fully sure of that.
Him Prasad Sir,
Excellent and appropriate analogy used to describe the situation
between the two.
Hozefa Sir,
I agree with Ashik Sir, we are simply encouraging and promoting the
use of free and open source assistive technology whose development is
progressive, active and full of potentials. JAWS must have had been
the first in the screen reader industry, but, NVDA is changing the
situation by offering amazing competition to JAWS, that too, at no
cost.
Vedprakash Sir,
The bottomline of yours, and others' messages is to try and improve
the product you like. There were some bugs and limitations of NVDA
which I reported myself, and were fixed eventually through code
contribution from the community more than the lead developers
themselves.
Sanjay Sir,
Never heard of this CAB, could someone provide detailed information to
quench my curiosity?
Thanks.

On 5/1/15, sanjay sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
No. before the advent of jaws and windows, blind people were using 
computers


by a  speech synthesiser called CAB (computer assistance for the blind)

- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] NVDA better again



I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
to operate computer.

If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
here.


On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned
with
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these
with

asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and 
concerned

about the needs of the visually impaired.
- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again



According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that 
no

option is available in nvda.

On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Guffran,
Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
elaborate/ellucidate.
For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access
India
is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA
Users
list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
to receive official announcements.
Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and 
existing

users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
demand.
Thanks.

On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should 
I

search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated
developers
for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I
stick
with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
chatting
with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese

On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Ashik

Dear Bhavya,

I am amazed to see that you read all these mails in details and reply to all 
the comment makers addressing their names. I appreciate your balanced 
attitude.
- Original Message - 
From: Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again



Hi,
Guffran Sir,
Firstly, glad to see that you are now onboard the NVDA Users list.
Now, coming to your actual points:
Which form field in particular on which webpage are you talking about?
In terms of web support, NVDA is more or less indisputantly the
winner.
Regarding mouseover links, raise that on the NVDA Users list, I'm not
fully sure of that.
Him Prasad Sir,
Excellent and appropriate analogy used to describe the situation
between the two.
Hozefa Sir,
I agree with Ashik Sir, we are simply encouraging and promoting the
use of free and open source assistive technology whose development is
progressive, active and full of potentials. JAWS must have had been
the first in the screen reader industry, but, NVDA is changing the
situation by offering amazing competition to JAWS, that too, at no
cost.
Vedprakash Sir,
The bottomline of yours, and others' messages is to try and improve
the product you like. There were some bugs and limitations of NVDA
which I reported myself, and were fixed eventually through code
contribution from the community more than the lead developers
themselves.
Sanjay Sir,
Never heard of this CAB, could someone provide detailed information to
quench my curiosity?
Thanks.

On 5/1/15, sanjay sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
No. before the advent of jaws and windows, blind people were using 
computers


by a  speech synthesiser called CAB (computer assistance for the blind)

- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] NVDA better again



I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
to operate computer.

If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
here.


On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned
with
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these
with

asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and 
concerned

about the needs of the visually impaired.
- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again



According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that 
no

option is available in nvda.

On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Guffran,
Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
elaborate/ellucidate.
For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access
India
is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA
Users
list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
to receive official announcements.
Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and 
existing

users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
demand.
Thanks.

On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should 
I

search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated
developers
for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I
stick
with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
chatting
with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese

On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi,
Guffran Sir,
Firstly, glad to see that you are now onboard the NVDA Users list.
Now, coming to your actual points:
Which form field in particular on which webpage are you talking about?
In terms of web support, NVDA is more or less indisputantly the
winner.
Regarding mouseover links, raise that on the NVDA Users list, I'm not
fully sure of that.
Him Prasad Sir,
Excellent and appropriate analogy used to describe the situation
between the two.
Hozefa Sir,
I agree with Ashik Sir, we are simply encouraging and promoting the
use of free and open source assistive technology whose development is
progressive, active and full of potentials. JAWS must have had been
the first in the screen reader industry, but, NVDA is changing the
situation by offering amazing competition to JAWS, that too, at no
cost.
Vedprakash Sir,
The bottomline of yours, and others' messages is to try and improve
the product you like. There were some bugs and limitations of NVDA
which I reported myself, and were fixed eventually through code
contribution from the community more than the lead developers
themselves.
Sanjay Sir,
Never heard of this CAB, could someone provide detailed information to
quench my curiosity?
Thanks.

On 5/1/15, sanjay sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 No. before the advent of jaws and windows, blind people were using computers

 by a  speech synthesiser called CAB (computer assistance for the blind)

 - Original Message -
 From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 2:04 PM
 Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] NVDA better again


I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
 same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
 JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
 to operate computer.

 If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
 can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
 here.


 On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned
 with
 what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these
 with

 asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned
 about the needs of the visually impaired.
 - Original Message -
 From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again


 According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

 On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
 word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
 have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
 another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
 insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
 option is available in nvda.

 On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Guffran,
 Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
 elaborate/ellucidate.
 For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
 recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
 nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access
 India
 is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA
 Users
 list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
 to receive official announcements.
 Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
 Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
 users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
 available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
 demand.
 Thanks.

 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
 search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated
 developers
 for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I
 stick
 with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
 chatting
 with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
 Thank you!
 Lissy Verghese

 On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in
 jaws
 we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the
 result.
 but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
 desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

 On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and
 advancing
 web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA 

[AI] 11-Year-Old Visually Challenged Boy Becomes Tamil Channel News Anchor

2015-05-01 Thread Suryajyothimetlapalli
 11-Year-Old Visually Challenged Boy Becomes Tamil Channel News Anchor

Close on the heels of introducing a transgender as a new anchor, 
city-headquartered Tamil channel Lotus News today presented a visually 
challenged boy as a news reader, claiming it was the first in the world.

Eleven-year-old Sriramanujam, born blind at birth, read the special news live 
with the help of Braille for 22 minutes, while his anxious teary-eyed parents 
watched.

The news he read included the follow up of the Nepal earthquake and the Mahinda 
Rajapaksa trial.

Channel Chairman, GKS Selvakumar told PTI that the main purpose of introducing 
the visually handicapped boy was to promote and create awareness on eye 
donation among the public,

So that such talented people get their vision back and achieve their goals.

At present he has been tasked with reading special newseekly and after some 
time, Sriramanujam would become a permanent daily news reader, he said.

Sriramanujam said being blind, he wanted to achieve something in life and chose 
the TV medium, so that many people could see him reading the news.

A fifth standard student of Government School at Uliyampalayam on the outskirts 
of the city, Sriramanujam, hailing from Palani, said he went through these news 
items six times before going live.

I was scared in the first two minutes but then it was business and I read it 
fluently, he said.

Asked what his ambition was, he said he wants to become a Collector.
Source:
http://www.ndtv.com/tamil-nadu-news/11-year-old-visually-challenged-boy-becomes-tamil-channel-news-anchor-759910



Smiling is a part of life.
But smiling in all the situations is an art of life.
Thanks and Regards,
Mrs. Surya Jyothi Praneeth,

CCT, SBH,
RC Puram, Hyderabad, AP.
Sent from my I PHONE.


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Re: [AI] Yesterday's alert from the Eyeway Helpdesk

2015-05-01 Thread melip sangma
unscript

On 5/1/15, Eyeway Helpdesk helpd...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Dear Listers,

 There is one post for Visually Impaired as Lecturer in different subjects
 in
 Berhampur University, Ganjam Odisha. Qualification:  (i) Good academic
 record with at least 55% marks (or an equivalent grade in a point scale
 wherever grading system is followed) at the Master's Degree level in a
 relevant subject from an Indian University, or an equivalent degree from an
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Re: [AI] Yesterday's alert from the Eyeway Helpdesk

2015-05-01 Thread melip sangma
 hai friends I am melip sangma I am melip sangma a vissually impaired
from Meghalaya, looking for a job. if any one knew any job which does
not require more education please inform me also please.

On 5/2/15, melip sangma melipsangm...@gmail.com wrote:
 unscript

 On 5/1/15, Eyeway Helpdesk helpd...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Dear Listers,

 There is one post for Visually Impaired as Lecturer in different subjects
 in
 Berhampur University, Ganjam Odisha. Qualification:  (i) Good academic
 record with at least 55% marks (or an equivalent grade in a point scale
 wherever grading system is followed) at the Master's Degree level in a
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Re: [AI] Microsoft helpline!

2015-05-01 Thread Bharat
So, if you are saving the contact for the first time, here is what you
could do. type the details in this format. not just in outllook but
anywhere  it would all be sortted for good. typing in that particular
name would auto-populate the name for you the next time onwards. here
is the format.

George geo...@eyeway.com

please note the email ID should be enclosed in betweensigns.

Let me know how it works out for you.

Wishes.

On 5/1/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Bharat,

 Thanks! In MS Outlooik, I have problems in saving contacts into my address
 book. How do I get support help on this from the website? I visited the
 sigte and could not really make head or tail of the issue?

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 Sent: 01 May 2015 15:01
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Microsoft helpline!

 Hi George,

 here it is:


 the Disability Answer Desk:

 000 800 442 0152



 https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/answerdesk/accessibility

 On 5/1/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi,



 Does anyone know of a Microsoft Helpline for software support?



 Do share!



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Re: [AI] NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
 word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
 have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
 another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
 insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
 option is available in nvda.

 On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Guffran,
 Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
 elaborate/ellucidate.
 For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
 recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
 nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
 is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
 list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
 to receive official announcements.
 Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
 Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
 users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
 available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
 demand.
 Thanks.

 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
 search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
 for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
 with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting
 with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
 Thank you!
 Lissy Verghese

 On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws
 we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result.
 but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
 desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

 On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing
 web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
 believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
 impressed
 with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and
 Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base.
 A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
 JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
 transitioned
 myself.
 The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
 I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
 being
 that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available
 and whose crack is widely distributed.
 I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable
 to
 work with.
 Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open
 source accessibility related projects!
 Ekinath Sir,
 Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
 always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
 bug
 report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
 someone in this thread itself, I believe.
 Thanks.

 On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

 They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
 specify
 the
 purpose for said donation.
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of
 Ashik
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning
 the
 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again

 Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
 whatever
 I
 can,
 but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit
 card.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe
 disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again


 Dear Ashik,

 People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth.
 It's all about getting comfortable.

 I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me
 with
 it. There is also a tts issue.
 I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel,
 though
 it is great online.

 But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can
 be
 seen.

 I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them
 anything much. But it would boost their confidence.

 Cheers NVDA







 On 4/22/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have abandoned JAWS for about four years now, and have been
 using
 NVDA 

Re: [AI] NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
hi,
Let us be clear.
1. NVDA is a screen reader is by VI person for VI person.
2. Jaws is a commercial product.
Hence, NVDA is like a food cooked in kitchen by the mum. It may be not
so tasty or salty in some cases. But one should not complain the cook
mum, instead try to assist her.
Jaws is a like a food of a restaurant. If so not tasty, one must
complain because he/she has to pay for it. If cracked jaws is used,
that is a type of theft. One should not compare the stolen food of a
restaurant and the cooked at home.
No One should understand that contribute means only involvement in the
development By pointing the weakness, asking new features, etc. any VI
person can contribute nvdA. Some Difference between nvda and jaws is
understandable. Each item has its own uniqueness. You feel a
difference in shirt and t-shirt or in a coat and a sweeter.
However, their functionality is the same.
Please do not compare in terms of this key stroke or that.
Visualize the performance, functionality and users' friendliness.
These are the key points of evaluation.





On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
 word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
 have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
 another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
 insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
 option is available in nvda.

 On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Guffran,
 Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
 elaborate/ellucidate.
 For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
 recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
 nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
 is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
 list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
 to receive official announcements.
 Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
 Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
 users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
 available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
 demand.
 Thanks.

 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
 search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
 for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
 with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting
 with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
 Thank you!
 Lissy Verghese

 On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws
 we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result.
 but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
 desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

 On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing
 web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
 believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
 impressed
 with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and
 Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base.
 A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
 JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
 transitioned
 myself.
 The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
 I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
 being
 that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available
 and whose crack is widely distributed.
 I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable
 to
 work with.
 Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open
 source accessibility related projects!
 Ekinath Sir,
 Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
 always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
 bug
 report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
 someone in this thread itself, I believe.
 Thanks.

 On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

 They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
 specify
 the
 purpose for said donation.
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of
 Ashik
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning
 the
 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again

 Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
 whatever
 I
 

Re: [AI] NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Kiran Baug
Hi Ekinath,

At work, I am currently fully dependent on NVDA.  I am amused to see
that NVDA has improved a lot and I feel no need of Jaws further.

NVDA is working in all applications for me and i am facing no challenge at all.

Thanks to NVDA

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
 word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
 have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
 another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
 insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
 option is available in nvda.

 On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Guffran,
 Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
 elaborate/ellucidate.
 For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
 recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
 nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
 is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
 list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
 to receive official announcements.
 Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
 Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
 users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
 available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
 demand.
 Thanks.

 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
 search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
 for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
 with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting
 with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
 Thank you!
 Lissy Verghese

 On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws
 we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result.
 but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
 desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

 On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing
 web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
 believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
 impressed
 with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and
 Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user base.
 A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
 JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
 transitioned
 myself.
 The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
 I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
 being
 that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available
 and whose crack is widely distributed.
 I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable
 to
 work with.
 Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open
 source accessibility related projects!
 Ekinath Sir,
 Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
 always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
 bug
 report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
 someone in this thread itself, I believe.
 Thanks.

 On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

 They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
 specify
 the
 purpose for said donation.
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of
 Ashik
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning
 the
 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again

 Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
 whatever
 I
 can,
 but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit
 card.
 - Original Message -
 From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe
 disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again


 Dear Ashik,

 People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth.
 It's all about getting comfortable.

 I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me
 with
 it. There is also a tts issue.
 I don't think i am still comfortable at all with it on excel,
 though
 it is great online.

 But hat's off to those guys who are working hard on it. And it can
 be
 seen.

 I am making a payment of Rs. 1000 to them. It won't fetch them
 anything 

[AI] FW: [Cavi-announce] Want to sign up for the Excel short course? You're running out of time!

2015-05-01 Thread Pranav Lal


-Original Message-
From: cavi-announce-boun...@ciscovision.org
[mailto:cavi-announce-boun...@ciscovision.org] On Behalf Of Char
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 9:38 AM
To: cavi-annou...@ciscovision.org
Subject: [Cavi-announce] Want to sign up for the Excel short course? You're
running out of time!

Less than 1 week left to enroll in the course that will teach you MS 
Excel from the ground up.

See more information at http://wiki.cucat.org/index.php?n=Main.Excel

Looking forward to seeing you there!

Char

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[AI] Yesterday's alert from the Eyeway Helpdesk

2015-05-01 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Dear Listers,

There is one post for Visually Impaired as Lecturer in different subjects in
Berhampur University, Ganjam Odisha. Qualification:  (i) Good academic
record with at least 55% marks (or an equivalent grade in a point scale
wherever grading system is followed) at the Master's Degree level in a
relevant subject from an Indian University, or an equivalent degree from an
accredited foreign university. Last date 25th May.  More at http://www.eye
way.org/?q=jobs http://www.eye%20way.org/?q=jobs *

-- 
**
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Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm)
Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 26472582/81
Email:bi...@eyeway.org
Websites: scorefoundation.org.in http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/
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[AI] Reg: Can VI become Telecom Engineer

2015-05-01 Thread venkatesan s
Hi friends,
My name is Venkatesan. I'm an Engineering graduate. My ambition is to
become an Telecom Engineer, but I don't know whether the VI can become
Telecom Engineer. Please guide me if you have any idea regarding this.
Bye



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Re: [AI] need english hindi rapidex.

2015-05-01 Thread Rajinder sehgal
Please visit www.getnewvision.com
rapidax english speeking course is uploaded.


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Subject: [AI] need english hindi rapidex.
From: raju ravat iamhindustan...@gmail.com
Date: 30/04/2015 11:56 am

hay friends i argent need english hindi rapidex or this type another
audio and taxt book  please upload for me.



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Re: [AI] NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Vedprakash
Let us not dispute over which application is better. Everybody has a choice
and we should respect it.
If one wishes to work with NVDA it is very good. And if one wishes to
continue with Jaws, there is no harm.
It is the matter of priorities and preferences.
Anything which comes free, depends upon the volunteers who develop it.
So we cannot fix things in NVDA as quickly as in Jaws.
Jaws has a cost involved into it. Those, who can bare with the cost, or can
get the alternative crack versions, would continue with it. No doubt, it has
many functionalities which NVDA is yet to develop.
But for those, who cannot spend money and also are against cracks, would
adopt NVDA, as it has immense possibilities in the years to come.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Ashik
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again

No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with
asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned
about the needs of the visually impaired.
- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again


 According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

 On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired 
 word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we 
 have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
 another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
 insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that 
 insert+ctro+no
 option is available in nvda.

 On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Guffran,
 Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could 
 elaborate/ellucidate.
 For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly 
 recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to 
 nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access 
 India is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the 
 NVDA Users list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being 
 the first one to receive official announcements.
 Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project, 
 Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and 
 existing users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The 
 tutorials are available freely on his website, whose link can be 
 shared by me on demand.
 Thanks.

 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should 
 I search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated 
 developers for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I 
 stick with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view 
 while chatting with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
 Thank you!
 Lissy Verghese

 On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in 
 jaws we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the
result.
 but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by 
 the desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

 On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and 
 advancing web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA 
 development (as I believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as 
 well), and am impressed with its development progress and its 
 lead developers (James Teh and Michael Curren)'s responsiveness 
 and concern towards their user base.
 A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training 
 for JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve, 
 transitioned myself.
 The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
 I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS 
 being that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily 
 available and whose crack is widely distributed.
 I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather 
 uncomfortable to work with.
 Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven 
 open source accessibility related projects!
 Ekinath Sir,
 Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you 
 can always file a constructive and well-articulated feature 
 request or bug report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has 
 been shared by someone in this 

Re: [AI] Important: Minutes of the preliminary discussions of the Expert Committee to review the Guidelines for conducting Written Examination for PwDs

2015-05-01 Thread avinash shahi
Many thanks mam for your hard efforts for converting the text for
print impaired people

Kurzweil is a software through which one could convert images into
text. This software is my lifeline.
 On 5/1/15, Vaishnavi Jayakumar jayakumar.vaishn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Avinash,

 Where did you source a text version of this document? The MSJE document is
 a pdf with images.

 I just spent the whole morning transcribing this and the ISLRTC document
 and am cursing because my morning was a waste!

 Vaishnavi

 avinash shahi
 https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.inq=from:%22avinash+shahi%22
  Thu, 30 Apr 2015 06:50:34 -0700
 https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.inq=date:20150430

 Having repeatedly perusing the minutes of the meeting,I feel there is a
 consensus emerging among the babus for thwarting the substantive objectives
 of the existing comprehensive guidelines. Read below to know what mediocre
 arguments was put forward by the UPSC and other bodies to modify the
 guidelines. Let us all converge and take resolve on one salient point that
 Invigilation is the crux and the thrust of the guidelines which should be
 strengthened. No arbitrary tempering,please. They say it is impracticable
 to provide questionpaper in Braille. What a tardy response exposing their
 political illwill. Can somebody inform UPSC that the UGC provides
 questionpapers in Braille all over India in NET exams. And questionpaper is
 not leaked? Why cant they do so? questionpaper will not be leaked as they
 fear. Secondly, they say qualification of the scribe should be
 lowered,that's non-negotiable isn't it? Anyway, its very crucial time for
 all of us and hope we remain united and alert in whatever strategy we
 adopt. Rungta sir,and NFB lets keep the fire on until the issue is not
 resolved for one and all. Below is the minutes of the meeting,those want to
 read PDF could visit MSJE website. Minutes of the preliminary discussions
 of the Expert Committee to review the Guidelines for conducting Written
 Examination for PwDs held under the Chairmanship of Secretary, DEPwD on
 13,04.2015 at 04:00 PM in the Conference Room, 5th Floor, Paryavaran
 Bhawan, New Delhi The List of Participants is at Annexure. 2. Secretary,
 DEPwD welcomed the participants and requested Joint Secretary, DEPwD to
 briefly explain the background of constitution of the expert Committee and
 the agenda to be discussed in the meeting. 3. Joint Secretary, DEPwD stated
 that on the basis of the recommendations of Chief Commissioner of Persons
 with Disabilities, the Ministry had issued detailed guidelines for
 conducting examination for Persons with Disabilities on 26th February,
 2013. The guidelines inter-alia include provision for scribe/reader/lab
 assistant, grant of extra time to the extent of 20 minutes per hour of
 examination, option of choosing mode of taking examination in Braille or in
 computer or in large print etc. Recently, UPSC has raised certain issues
 relating to practical implementation of the guidelines. UPSC has said that
 their comments on the draft guidelines communicated in 2008 were not
 considered. UPSC now has raised the issue of allowing private scribes
 especially while taking main examinations (other than multiple type
 question based examination), practicality of allowing question paper in
 Braille etc. The issues raised by UPSC were also discussed in a meeting
 held with DoPT when Chairman UPSC was also present. Staff Selection
 Commission has also raised similar observations. In order to look into the
 practical implementation issues raised by UPSC, SSC etc. an expert
 Committee under the Chairmanship of Secretary, DEPwD has been constituted.
 UPSC has now brought a detailed note outlining their observations on
 implementation of these guidelines for consideration of the Expert
 Committee. He further stated that the Committee was also required to decide
 the associations/experts to represent different disability associations
 namely visual impairment, hearing impairment and locomotor disabilities in
 the Expert Committee. He also brought to the notice of the Committee to the
 fact that the Department has received representations requesting nomination
 of experts for the cause of other disabilities such as Autism Spectrum
 Disorder, Specific Learning Disabilities, and Speech Impairment etc. 4.
 Secretary DEPwD requested representative from UPSC to briefly explain the
 problem being faced by them in implementing the guidelines. 5. The
 representatives from UPSC submitted that they are allowing scribes as per
 the choice of the candidates for multiple choice question based examination
 such as ICS preliminary examination. However, in case of main examination
 which is especially of descriptive type they are allowing only Government
 scribes through their centre coordinators. They stated that the discretion
 to the candidates to opt for own scribe/reader would have an impact on the
 

Re: [AI] Important: Minutes of the preliminary discussions of the Expert Committee to review the Guidelines for conducting Written Examination for PwDs

2015-05-01 Thread Vaishnavi Jayakumar
It's incredibly accurate. Does it handle crooked pages too? Is it cross
platform and device agnostic? Is it free?

I use a variety of free online OCR tools like newocr.com. Or upload to
Google Docs and use  its inbuilt OCR tech. But between the pagewise
pasting, cursory checking and tables, I sometimes think it would be faster
to just type the whole thing!

I wish we could work out a system to coordinate efforts so as to prevent
duplication.

Any ideas?


On Friday, May 1, 2015, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many thanks mam for your hard efforts for converting the text for
 print impaired people

 Kurzweil is a software through which one could convert images into
 text. This software is my lifeline.
  On 5/1/15, Vaishnavi Jayakumar jayakumar.vaishn...@gmail.com
 javascript:; wrote:
  Dear Avinash,
 
  Where did you source a text version of this document? The MSJE document
 is
  a pdf with images.
 
  I just spent the whole morning transcribing this and the ISLRTC document
  and am cursing because my morning was a waste!
 
  Vaishnavi
 
  avinash shahi
  
 https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.inq=from:%22avinash+shahi%22
 
   Thu, 30 Apr 2015 06:50:34 -0700
  
 https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.inq=date:20150430
 
 
  Having repeatedly perusing the minutes of the meeting,I feel there is a
  consensus emerging among the babus for thwarting the substantive
 objectives
  of the existing comprehensive guidelines. Read below to know what
 mediocre
  arguments was put forward by the UPSC and other bodies to modify the
  guidelines. Let us all converge and take resolve on one salient point
 that
  Invigilation is the crux and the thrust of the guidelines which should be
  strengthened. No arbitrary tempering,please. They say it is impracticable
  to provide questionpaper in Braille. What a tardy response exposing their
  political illwill. Can somebody inform UPSC that the UGC provides
  questionpapers in Braille all over India in NET exams. And questionpaper
 is
  not leaked? Why cant they do so? questionpaper will not be leaked as they
  fear. Secondly, they say qualification of the scribe should be
  lowered,that's non-negotiable isn't it? Anyway, its very crucial time for
  all of us and hope we remain united and alert in whatever strategy we
  adopt. Rungta sir,and NFB lets keep the fire on until the issue is not
  resolved for one and all. Below is the minutes of the meeting,those want
 to
  read PDF could visit MSJE website. Minutes of the preliminary discussions
  of the Expert Committee to review the Guidelines for conducting Written
  Examination for PwDs held under the Chairmanship of Secretary, DEPwD on
  13,04.2015 at 04:00 PM in the Conference Room, 5th Floor, Paryavaran
  Bhawan, New Delhi The List of Participants is at Annexure. 2. Secretary,
  DEPwD welcomed the participants and requested Joint Secretary, DEPwD to
  briefly explain the background of constitution of the expert Committee
 and
  the agenda to be discussed in the meeting. 3. Joint Secretary, DEPwD
 stated
  that on the basis of the recommendations of Chief Commissioner of Persons
  with Disabilities, the Ministry had issued detailed guidelines for
  conducting examination for Persons with Disabilities on 26th February,
  2013. The guidelines inter-alia include provision for scribe/reader/lab
  assistant, grant of extra time to the extent of 20 minutes per hour of
  examination, option of choosing mode of taking examination in Braille or
 in
  computer or in large print etc. Recently, UPSC has raised certain issues
  relating to practical implementation of the guidelines. UPSC has said
 that
  their comments on the draft guidelines communicated in 2008 were not
  considered. UPSC now has raised the issue of allowing private scribes
  especially while taking main examinations (other than multiple type
  question based examination), practicality of allowing question paper in
  Braille etc. The issues raised by UPSC were also discussed in a meeting
  held with DoPT when Chairman UPSC was also present. Staff Selection
  Commission has also raised similar observations. In order to look into
 the
  practical implementation issues raised by UPSC, SSC etc. an expert
  Committee under the Chairmanship of Secretary, DEPwD has been
 constituted.
  UPSC has now brought a detailed note outlining their observations on
  implementation of these guidelines for consideration of the Expert
  Committee. He further stated that the Committee was also required to
 decide
  the associations/experts to represent different disability associations
  namely visual impairment, hearing impairment and locomotor disabilities
 in
  the Expert Committee. He also brought to the notice of the Committee to
 the
  fact that the Department has received representations requesting
 nomination
  of experts for the cause of other disabilities such as Autism Spectrum
  Disorder, Specific Learning 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread sanjay
No. before the advent of jaws and windows, blind people were using computers 
by a  speech synthesiser called CAB (computer assistance for the blind)


- Original Message - 
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 2:04 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] NVDA better again



I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
to operate computer.

If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
here.


On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:

No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these 
with


asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned
about the needs of the visually impaired.
- Original Message -
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again



According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
option is available in nvda.

On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Guffran,
Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
elaborate/ellucidate.
For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
to receive official announcements.
Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
demand.
Thanks.

On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
chatting
with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese

On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in 
jaws

we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the
result.
but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and 
advancing

web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
impressed
with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh
and
Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user
base.
A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
transitioned
myself.
The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
being
that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily 
available

and whose crack is widely distributed.
I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather 
uncomfortable

to
work with.
Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven 
open

source accessibility related projects!
Ekinath Sir,
Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
bug
report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
someone in this thread itself, I believe.
Thanks.

On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
specify
the
purpose for said donation.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia 

[AI] Regarding music application

2015-05-01 Thread dilip kumar

hello friends i am music programmer. Wich music application axes with jaws or 
nvda. Pro tools, cubas, nuando, script is there? For jaws and n v d a?



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[AI] mailing lists

2015-05-01 Thread Preeti Bhutani
Want addresses of international and indmian mailing lists for visually
Impaired and hearing. Impaired People I would be grateful if somebody could
help me

Regards
Preeti


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[AI] Important: Minutes of the preliminary discussions of the Expert Committee to review the Guidelines for conducting Written Examination for PwDs

2015-05-01 Thread Vaishnavi Jayakumar
Dear Avinash,

Where did you source a text version of this document? The MSJE document is
a pdf with images.

I just spent the whole morning transcribing this and the ISLRTC document
and am cursing because my morning was a waste!

Vaishnavi

avinash shahi
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.inq=from:%22avinash+shahi%22
 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 06:50:34 -0700
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.inq=date:20150430

Having repeatedly perusing the minutes of the meeting,I feel there is a
consensus emerging among the babus for thwarting the substantive objectives
of the existing comprehensive guidelines. Read below to know what mediocre
arguments was put forward by the UPSC and other bodies to modify the
guidelines. Let us all converge and take resolve on one salient point that
Invigilation is the crux and the thrust of the guidelines which should be
strengthened. No arbitrary tempering,please. They say it is impracticable
to provide questionpaper in Braille. What a tardy response exposing their
political illwill. Can somebody inform UPSC that the UGC provides
questionpapers in Braille all over India in NET exams. And questionpaper is
not leaked? Why cant they do so? questionpaper will not be leaked as they
fear. Secondly, they say qualification of the scribe should be
lowered,that's non-negotiable isn't it? Anyway, its very crucial time for
all of us and hope we remain united and alert in whatever strategy we
adopt. Rungta sir,and NFB lets keep the fire on until the issue is not
resolved for one and all. Below is the minutes of the meeting,those want to
read PDF could visit MSJE website. Minutes of the preliminary discussions
of the Expert Committee to review the Guidelines for conducting Written
Examination for PwDs held under the Chairmanship of Secretary, DEPwD on
13,04.2015 at 04:00 PM in the Conference Room, 5th Floor, Paryavaran
Bhawan, New Delhi The List of Participants is at Annexure. 2. Secretary,
DEPwD welcomed the participants and requested Joint Secretary, DEPwD to
briefly explain the background of constitution of the expert Committee and
the agenda to be discussed in the meeting. 3. Joint Secretary, DEPwD stated
that on the basis of the recommendations of Chief Commissioner of Persons
with Disabilities, the Ministry had issued detailed guidelines for
conducting examination for Persons with Disabilities on 26th February,
2013. The guidelines inter-alia include provision for scribe/reader/lab
assistant, grant of extra time to the extent of 20 minutes per hour of
examination, option of choosing mode of taking examination in Braille or in
computer or in large print etc. Recently, UPSC has raised certain issues
relating to practical implementation of the guidelines. UPSC has said that
their comments on the draft guidelines communicated in 2008 were not
considered. UPSC now has raised the issue of allowing private scribes
especially while taking main examinations (other than multiple type
question based examination), practicality of allowing question paper in
Braille etc. The issues raised by UPSC were also discussed in a meeting
held with DoPT when Chairman UPSC was also present. Staff Selection
Commission has also raised similar observations. In order to look into the
practical implementation issues raised by UPSC, SSC etc. an expert
Committee under the Chairmanship of Secretary, DEPwD has been constituted.
UPSC has now brought a detailed note outlining their observations on
implementation of these guidelines for consideration of the Expert
Committee. He further stated that the Committee was also required to decide
the associations/experts to represent different disability associations
namely visual impairment, hearing impairment and locomotor disabilities in
the Expert Committee. He also brought to the notice of the Committee to the
fact that the Department has received representations requesting nomination
of experts for the cause of other disabilities such as Autism Spectrum
Disorder, Specific Learning Disabilities, and Speech Impairment etc. 4.
Secretary DEPwD requested representative from UPSC to briefly explain the
problem being faced by them in implementing the guidelines. 5. The
representatives from UPSC submitted that they are allowing scribes as per
the choice of the candidates for multiple choice question based examination
such as ICS preliminary examination. However, in case of main examination
which is especially of descriptive type they are allowing only Government
scribes through their centre coordinators. They stated that the discretion
to the candidates to opt for own scribe/reader would have an impact on the
integrity of the examination process as the candidate may bring a scribe
who is more proficient than him and who could improve the content of the
answers. The Commission has also received representations alleging
malpractices by the Candidates who had been permitted to have their own
scribes. The Commission was of the view that 

[AI] Regarding music application

2015-05-01 Thread dilip kumar

hello friends i am music programmer. Wich music application axes with jaws or 
nvda. Pro tools, cubas, nuando, script is there? For jaws and n v d a?



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Re: [AI] Mumbai: Concessional ID Card for E-ticketing

2015-05-01 Thread amandeep garg
hello.
Direct link is:
http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/railwayboard/uploads/directorate/traffic_comm/Comm-Cir-2015/CC_18_2015.pdf
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[AI] colleges and Universities in Mumbai: accessibility check!

2015-05-01 Thread avinash shahi
http://www.hindustantimes.com/chunk-ht-ui-hteducationsectionpage-otherstories/india-s-educational-institutes-form-major-roadblock-for-the-disabled-study/article1-1342215.aspx

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[AI] Fwd: Memorial meeting of Masudur Rahman Baidya

2015-05-01 Thread Sruti disAbility Rights Centre
Dear all,
Forwarding an email which is self explanatory - hope some of you who are in
Kolkata and surroundings can attend the condolence meeting. Those who are
are not aware of Masudur's achievements, can read the news copied below
(Source PTI) the forwarded mail.

With regards
Shampa Sengupta

Fwd :

Dear friends,

As you are aware Masudur Rahaman Baidya, who being a double amputee made
Bengal and India proud by crossing the English Channel in 1997, died at
young age of 46 on 26th May 2015. It was a privilege for us to have him
with us as Vice-President of our organisation.

A memorial meeting is organised to pay tribute to him at  Pratibandhi
Village,147 Barakhola, Mukundapur, Kolkata - 700 099 on Saturday 2nd May,
at 4.30 p.m. Shri Somenath Chatterjee, former Speaker, Lok Sabha  our
Founder President, will be present along with several other eminent
personalities in this meeting.

We request you to join us to this memorial meeting.

Thanking you,

Sailen Chowdhury
President
Paschimbanga Rajya Pratibandhi
Sammilani

Kolkata: India swimmer http://zeenews.india.com/tags/india-swimmer.html
Masudur Rahman Baidya, the only man with amputated legs to cross the
English Channel in 1997, died this morning after a heart attack, according
to family sources.

The 46-year-old was not keeping well for a couple of days. He was suffering
from vomiting and loose motion this morning as his family in Topsia rushed
him to a nearby hospital.

He had a major heart attack and doctors put him in ventilator. Doctors
tried their best but he passed away within one hour, his sister Monira
Rahman told PTI.

Masudur is survived by his mother, wife, and two daughters aged six years
and three years.

A double amputee below the knee, who had conquered the English Channel, the
Strait of Gibraltar in 2001 and the Palk Strait in July 2010, was very
popular and Indian cricket maestro Sachin Tendulkar was one of his
admirers. The Indian icon had visited him in December last year while
inaugurating Rabindra Swimming Pool and Anushilan Kendra at Lalkuti in
Rajarhat.

Saluting Masudur's feats, Tendulkar had said: They are the real heroes and
their life is like an inspiration to all of us and he was seen inquiring
about Baidya's achievements of being the only man with amputated legs to
cross the English Channel and Strait of Gibraltar.

Masudur's story is more reel-like as he showed amazing dedication and
perseverance to pursue swimming after being run over by a goods train at an
age of nine.

The accident meant his both legs had to be amputated and he spent one and
half years in different hospitals and the boy from Ballavpur village of
North 24 Parganas amazed everybody with his strong determination and grit.

His body would bend downward from below the waist in the water but he did
not give up till he could swim. It is absolutely possible for persons with
physical disabilities to do things better than normal people. But you have
to be dedicated to your cause, he had said.
PTI


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Re: [AI] NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
I agree that NVDA is playing a vital role by providing more or less
same functionality compared to JAWS. But we should not forget that
JAWS is the first screen reader which enabled the visually challenged
to operate computer.

If you have any complaints for JAWS regarding its functionality, you
can write to Freedom Scientific tech support instead of complaining
here.


On 5/1/15, Ashik ashikhir...@gmail.com wrote:
 No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with
 what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with

 asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned
 about the needs of the visually impaired.
 - Original Message -
 From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again


 According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

 On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
 word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
 have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
 another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
 insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
 option is available in nvda.

 On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Guffran,
 Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
 elaborate/ellucidate.
 For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
 recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
 nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
 is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
 list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
 to receive official announcements.
 Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
 Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
 users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
 available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
 demand.
 Thanks.

 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
 search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
 for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


 On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
 with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while
 chatting
 with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
 Thank you!
 Lissy Verghese

 On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:
 only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws
 we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the
 result.
 but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
 desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

 On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing
 web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
 believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
 impressed
 with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh
 and
 Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user
 base.
 A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
 JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
 transitioned
 myself.
 The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
 I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
 being
 that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available
 and whose crack is widely distributed.
 I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable
 to
 work with.
 Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open
 source accessibility related projects!
 Ekinath Sir,
 Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
 always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
 bug
 report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
 someone in this thread itself, I believe.
 Thanks.

 On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

 They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
 specify
 the
 purpose for said donation.
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On
 Behalf
 Of
 Ashik
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
 issuesconcerning
 the
 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again

 Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
 whatever
 I
 can,
 but there is the credit card issue. I 

Re: [AI] Microsoft helpline!

2015-05-01 Thread Bharat
Hi George,

here it is:


the Disability Answer Desk:

000 800 442 0152



https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/answerdesk/accessibility

On 5/1/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi,



 Does anyone know of a Microsoft Helpline for software support?



 Do share!



 Thanks!



 George





 CEO

 Score Foundation

 17/107, LGF,

 Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,

 New Delhi 110024

 Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396

 Mob: 91 9810934040

 Email: geo...@eyeway.org

 Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org

 Skype: georgeabraham13





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[AI] Guns Licence!

2015-05-01 Thread P. Subramani
I am wondering whether we blind persons  can own guns under license for 
self-defense? also what's the procedure for applying/getting a  gun license? Or 
is it OK to use some locally/countrymade gun without license? Hope members can 
throw some insights into this! With regards, (P. SUBRAMANI)
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com  
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: www.facebook.com/subu.subramani.16


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Re: [AI] NVDA better again

2015-05-01 Thread Ashik
No, we don't critize JAWS. We just favour NVDA. We are not concerned with 
what JAWS does or does not. We are just happy that NVDA does all these with 
asking for any money. The developers are very enthusiastic and concerned 
about the needs of the visually impaired.
- Original Message - 
From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again



According to me, too much criticism is made for JAWS.

On 5/1/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

@Bhavya what i want to say that in jaws, we simply enter the desired
word and press enter. the jaws leaves the form field. but in nvda, we
have to press escape key in-order to leave the form field.
another issue is onmouse over issue. in jaws we press
insert+ctro+enter keys to activate the same. but i don't think that no
option is available in nvda.

On 4/30/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
Guffran,
Your query is unclear to me. It may help if you could
elaborate/ellucidate.
For anyone wanting to learn more about NVDA, I would strongly
recommend subscribing to the NVDA Users list by sending a mail to
nvda-requ...@freelists.org with the subject of Subscribe. Access India
is a healthy group with a wealth of knowledge, however, the NVDA Users
list is a more specialized group for NVDA Users, being the first one
to receive official announcements.
Also, a code contributor and Korean maintainer of the NVDA project,
Joseph Lee, has created an audio tutorial series for new and existing
users covering basic to advanced topics of NVDA. The tutorials are
available freely on his website, whose link can be shared by me on
demand.
Thanks.

On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

Even I decide to bid farewell to JAWS from now onwards. Why should I
search for cracks when there is a large group of dedicated developers
for NVDA? Good-bye JAWS.


On 4/30/15, Lissy Verghese lvmalayatt...@gmail.com wrote:

I am unable to chat using gmail standard view with NVDA...so I stick
with JAWS. Any tips on easy navigation in Standard view while chatting
with NVDA? That is the only trouble I face with NVDA.
Thank you!
Lissy Verghese

On 4/27/15, gufran ahmed gufran.ahmed2...@gmail.com wrote:

only one issue which i feel irritate and that is form field, in jaws
we simply enter the keyword and press enter, it will give the result.
but in NVDA, we have to press escape key each time followed by the
desired value. otherwice it is the best screen reader instead.

On 4/26/15, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
NVDA's primary advantage is its constantly maintained and advancing
web accessibility support. I closely follow NVDA development (as I
believe Him Prasad Sir and Pranavlal Sir do as well), and am
impressed
with its development progress and its lead developers (James Teh and
Michael Curren)'s responsiveness and concern towards their user 
base.

A year or so ago, I switched to NVDA after acquiring training for
JAWS, and due to the seemless and minimal learning curve,
transitioned
myself.
The NVDA community is as vibrant as the NVDA project itself.
I agree with Him Prasad Sir as the main reason for usage of JAWS
being
that it is the screen reader for whom training is readily available
and whose crack is widely distributed.
I sometimes temporarily start JAWS and find it rather uncomfortable
to
work with.
Let us endorse NVDA and ESpeak, two excellent community driven open
source accessibility related projects!
Ekinath Sir,
Regarding I having to have helped you with NVDA settings, you can
always file a constructive and well-articulated feature request or
bug
report at the NVDA issue tracker, whose link has been shared by
someone in this thread itself, I believe.
Thanks.

On 4/24/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

See http://www.saksham.org/help.php

They have a mechanism for accepting donations which allows you to
specify
the
purpose for said donation.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On

Behalf
Of
Ashik
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:00 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerning
the
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again

Good that you contribute to the great cause. I too want to pay
whatever
I
can,
but there is the credit card issue. I mean I don't use the credit
card.
- Original Message -
From: Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe
disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA better again



Dear Ashik,

People will take it when the transition is beneficial and smooth.
It's all about getting comfortable.

I never received most ideal settings file till Bhavya helped me
with
it. There is also a tts 

[AI] Fwd: {Disability Studies India} Accessible India Campaign: Govt plans app for the disabled

2015-05-01 Thread avinash shahi
-- Forwarded message --
From: Satendra Singh dr.saten...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 1 May 2015 06:52:20 +0530
Subject: {Disability Studies India} Accessible India Campaign: Govt
plans app for the disabled
To: IDA CRPD FORUM ida_crpd_fo...@yahoogroups.com,
disability-studies-in...@googlegroups.com

Govt plans app for the disabledTimes of India TNN | May 1, 2015, 04.07 AM
IST
NEW DELHI: Now a person with disability or any other person will be able to
upload pictures and status of accessibility of buildings and public spaces
via an app on the portal to be created by the ministry of social justice
and empowerment.

The ministry is creating the dedicated portal for the disabled where they
can directly forward their grievances for action.

The Centre's ambitious Accessible India Campaign (Sugamya Bharat Abhiyan)
will start from seven states - Delhi, Tamil Nadu, Gujarat, Assam,
Rajasthan, Maharashtra and Haryana- from this year envisaging a nation-wide
awareness campaign towards universal accessibility for all citizens
including persons with disabilities.

According to senior officials of the ministry, it has created a dedicated
program management unit, steering committee and other sub-committees in the
ministry with representation of professionals and experts to create media
strategy and media planning, conduct awareness workshops for sensitization
of all key stake holders as identified and creation and dissemination of
educational booklets for spreading the awareness. The next stage is to sign
MoU with various ministries and state government agencies for their role
and responsibilities for the campaign. This nationwide flagship campaign is
aimed at achieving universal accessibility for Persons with Disabilities
(PwDs).

According to 2011 census over 2.2% of the population is disabled, while the
erstwhile Planning Commission estimated that 5% of the population of India
is disabled. According to WHO 8% of the Indian population is disabled.

The meeting had representatives from national institutes (visual, hearing
and physically handicapped) and office of chief commissioner for persons
with disability. State government officials and representatives from
ministries like labour, social welfare, health, sports and youth affairs,
urban development, civil aviation, rural development and ASI, Delhi Metro
and CPWD, were also present.

In line with Nothing about us, without us, the steering committee had
representation from disability sector which includes Svayam, Samarthyam,
Enabling Unit of the University College of Medical Sciences, Delhi
University and National Association for the Blind giving critical inputs.

While the plan is to achieve a barrier free environment for the PwDs in
next five years, the initial impetus is on capacity building and awareness
campaign.

​
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Govt-plans-app-for-the-disabled/articleshow/47116331.cms
​

-- 
Warm regards

_

Dr Satendra Singh,

*MD, FAIMER, FSS*

Assistant Professor of Physiology

Associate Editor,

Research and Humanities in Medical Education (RHiME) http://www.rhime.in/

| Medical Education Unit http://medicaleducationunit.yolasite.com/ |
Coordinator, Enabling Unit http://enablingunit.yolasite.com/ |

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Re: [AI] Reg: Can VI become Telecom Engineer

2015-05-01 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi venkatesan,

I have colleagues who are telecom engineers. Most of them spend time on a
terminal prompt configuring devices. Yes, a blind person can do this easily. As
for education, it should be possible given the right accommodations. I cannot
comment further on that aspect. 

Today, your best bet is to get a job with one of the telecom equipment providers
such as Cisco, Nokia, NSN etc. 

The problem is growth. Yes, you are a telecom engineer but what after that?
There are a few operators here with loads of engineers. The same applies to the
OEM(s). A lot of telecom equipment is rapidly becoming IP based so a strong
knowledge of networking fundamentals is essential. Again, this is not a problem
for a blind person.

Have you considered interning at a telecom Original equipment manufacturer? If
you can do this, it should give you a better idea of what is involved.
Pranav




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[AI] Microsoft helpline!

2015-05-01 Thread George Abraham
Hi,

 

Does anyone know of a Microsoft Helpline for software support?

 

Do share!

 

Thanks!

 

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[AI] hii friends

2015-05-01 Thread payal Thakur
I am looking to bySamsung Galaxy Grand 2
But I don’t know that it  is accessable or not for blind
So I want know that is any one using this Samsung Galaxy Grand 2
Please reply


payal

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Re: [AI] hii friends

2015-05-01 Thread Aravind Aralaguppe
It is fully accessable
On 1 May 2015 15:54, payal Thakur payalthakur9...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am looking to bySamsung Galaxy Grand 2
 But I don’t know that it  is accessable or not for blind
 So I want know that is any one using this Samsung Galaxy Grand 2
 Please reply


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[AI] FYI: The last date of application for over 2, 000 vacancies of Probationary Officers (PO) in State Bank of India has been extended from May 2 to May 7. If interested, you must apply at the earlie

2015-05-01 Thread avinash shahi
http://www.hindustantimes.com/careers/2-000-sbi-po-jobs-last-date-for-application-extended-to-may-7/article1-1342592.aspx

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Re: [AI] Guns Licence!

2015-05-01 Thread SC Vashishth
Interesting query. Would be keen to hear experiences.

As far as I know, in Delhi, the procedure includes filling up an
application form which has to be submitted with affidavit   medical
certificate by a doctor seeking following information:

Affidavit - about date of birth, educational qualification, annual income,
statement that you are medically fit to handle weapon, Skills to handle
weapon, nominee details, history of any criminal case or other legal cases
if any, availability of suitable arrangements for keeping the fire arms in
safe custody and to avoid access of children to the weapons and why do you
need the weapon.

Medical Certificate  has -  height, weight, age, eyesight, BP and
deformity- particularly in hands and a general statement that the applicant
is in good mental  physical health and is free from any physical deformity.

I see as per this procedure, the persons with blindness get stuck at two
places - the medical certificate where eye sight is asked and the
certificate from doctor free from any physical deformity.  The form
otherwise doesn't seek information about blindness except that you have
skills to handle the weapon.

Any experiences?


On 1 May 2015 at 13:19, P. Subramani subramani6...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am wondering whether we blind persons  can own guns under license for
 self-defense? also what's the procedure for applying/getting a  gun
 license? Or is it OK to use some locally/countrymade gun without license?
 Hope members can throw some insights into this! With regards, (P. SUBRAMANI)
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 Mob:  9738150192
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Re: [AI] Microsoft helpline!

2015-05-01 Thread George Abraham
Bharat,

Thanks! In MS Outlooik, I have problems in saving contacts into my address
book. How do I get support help on this from the website? I visited the
sigte and could not really make head or tail of the issue?

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Hi George,

here it is:


the Disability Answer Desk:

000 800 442 0152



https://support.microsoft.com/en-in/answerdesk/accessibility

On 5/1/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 Hi,



 Does anyone know of a Microsoft Helpline for software support?



 Do share!



 Thanks!



 George





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[AI] Eyeway alert for the day

2015-05-01 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Dear All:

Required  Technical Officer (Forestry) Grade-II in Ministry of Environment,
Forest  Climate Change and  Assistant Professor in English in Regional
Institute of English, Chandigarh, Chandigarh Administration, Education
Department (UPSC). Visually impaired can apply. Qualification for Technical
Officer: Master's Degree in Statistics or Operations Research or Forestry
or Economics (with Statistics) or Commerce (with Statistics) or Mathematics
(with Statistics) or Agriculture (with Statistics) or two years' Post
Graduate Diploma in Forestry Management from a recognized
Institute/University. Head Quarters: Delhi with All India Service Liability.
Age Limit: 30 years. Qualification  for  Assistant Professor :  (i) Good
Academic record with at least 55% of the marks or an equivalent grade of B
in the 7 point scale with letter grades O, A, B, C, D, E or an and F at the
Master's level in English from an Indian University or an equivalent degree
 from a Foreign University.   (Equivalency : MA  (English) may be
considered equivalent qualification).  (ii) Post Graduate Diploma in
teaching of English/English studies awarded by Central Institute of English
and Foreign Languages (CIEFL) Hyderabad or equivalent.  Headquarters:
Chandigarh. Age Limit:  35 years.  Last date 14th May.  More at http://www.eye
way.org/?q=jobs http://www.eye%20way.org/?q=jobs  or employment news  of
25th  April page no. 26

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