Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Folks, much awaited built-in OCR feature that I was talking about in Samsung talkback has now come through. Those having the Samsung phones do not need to do anything special on their end, just click the image that you receive on WhatsApp and touch the finger on the left bottom side or on the middle of the screen and all text will be read automatically. However, one major drawback is that one cannot take the advantage of navigating this text in the desired granularity mode. Thanks. On 19/11/2021, Shek Mohammad Ali wrote: > Namaste. > Thanks so much, much appreciated. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On > Behalf Of Sandesh Narayane > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 7:17 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Namaskar! > Kindly visit https://t.me/jieshuochat > > The group currently has 1195 members from all over the world. > All updates of Jieshuo+ (Both standard including Chinese and international > English without Chinese) are posted here as they get released Everything or > I could say anything about the screen reader is there in this group. I don't > think you will require any assistance from this group or from anybody else > if you join and/or explore the group, please install Telegram on your phone > if you do not already have, click the above mentioned link and that's all. > Still, if any help is needed, please ask here, members of this forum too > will answer you as per their capacities. > > And yes, It supports braille, must be having Braille keyboard of its own > too. I heard people discussing about Braille and Braille keyboard on the > forum. I don't use Braille on mobile, hence can't say much. > > Regards > > Vande Mataram > > Sandesh > 9270056753 > > > On 11/19/21, sheik mohammedali wrote: >> Hey does it have Braille keypad as well? >> >> >> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> on behalf of Bikram >> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:39:11 AM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >> >> Hello sir, >> >> That sounds really awesome! >> I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the >> resources off the list to obtain the same. >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh >> mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Namaskar! >> >> As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader >> also known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee >> singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. >> Forget >> all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not >> available on playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via >> dedicated telegram group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times >> in a week. it has 2 version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. >> Commentary screen reader international version without chinies >> language support, small in size. >> Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not >> do in about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, >> this person could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version >> does have all these things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha >> solving capability and many more features. but it's basic or free >> version also does many things Talkback developpers could not even >> think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use its free version >> sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in the task, and >> more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. >> They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or >> Commentary screen reader, and people from various countries do great >> amount of voluntary work like making it developped in different >> different languages etc without any monitary thing involved is just >> amazing. This shows the commitment, this is just an example of strong >> will for the work undertaken with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi >> baat", giants like google does have lots of things to learn from these >> people undoubtedly. and I can't stop from laughing when I hear hollow >> statements from google pertaining to accessibility for all etc. >> It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it >> is Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's >> Chinies app does not disquali
RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Namaste. Thanks so much, much appreciated. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Sandesh Narayane Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 7:17 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Namaskar! Kindly visit https://t.me/jieshuochat The group currently has 1195 members from all over the world. All updates of Jieshuo+ (Both standard including Chinese and international English without Chinese) are posted here as they get released Everything or I could say anything about the screen reader is there in this group. I don't think you will require any assistance from this group or from anybody else if you join and/or explore the group, please install Telegram on your phone if you do not already have, click the above mentioned link and that's all. Still, if any help is needed, please ask here, members of this forum too will answer you as per their capacities. And yes, It supports braille, must be having Braille keyboard of its own too. I heard people discussing about Braille and Braille keyboard on the forum. I don't use Braille on mobile, hence can't say much. Regards Vande Mataram Sandesh 9270056753 On 11/19/21, sheik mohammedali wrote: > Hey does it have Braille keypad as well? > > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > on behalf of Bikram > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:39:11 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Hello sir, > > That sounds really awesome! > I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the > resources off the list to obtain the same. > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh > mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Namaskar! > > As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader > also known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee > singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. > Forget > all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not > available on playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via > dedicated telegram group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times > in a week. it has 2 version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. > Commentary screen reader international version without chinies > language support, small in size. > Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not > do in about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, > this person could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version > does have all these things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha > solving capability and many more features. but it's basic or free > version also does many things Talkback developpers could not even > think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use its free version > sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in the task, and > more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. > They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or > Commentary screen reader, and people from various countries do great > amount of voluntary work like making it developped in different > different languages etc without any monitary thing involved is just > amazing. This shows the commitment, this is just an example of strong > will for the work undertaken with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi > baat", giants like google does have lots of things to learn from these > people undoubtedly. and I can't stop from laughing when I hear hollow > statements from google pertaining to accessibility for all etc. > It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it > is Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's > Chinies app does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. > > Vande Mataram > > Sandesh > > - Original Message - > From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" > mailto:bikram.greets...@gmail.com>> > To: > mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > Hello sir, > > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the > context of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last > reply: > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh >> mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Namaskar again! >> >> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: >> >>
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Namaskar! Kindly visit https://t.me/jieshuochat The group currently has 1195 members from all over the world. All updates of Jieshuo+ (Both standard including Chinese and international English without Chinese) are posted here as they get released Everything or I could say anything about the screen reader is there in this group. I don't think you will require any assistance from this group or from anybody else if you join and/or explore the group, please install Telegram on your phone if you do not already have, click the above mentioned link and that's all. Still, if any help is needed, please ask here, members of this forum too will answer you as per their capacities. And yes, It supports braille, must be having Braille keyboard of its own too. I heard people discussing about Braille and Braille keyboard on the forum. I don't use Braille on mobile, hence can't say much. Regards Vande Mataram Sandesh 9270056753 On 11/19/21, sheik mohammedali wrote: > Hey does it have Braille keypad as well? > > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in on > behalf of Bikram > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:39:11 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Hello sir, > > That sounds really awesome! > I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the > resources off the list to obtain the same. > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh > mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Namaskar! > > As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader also > known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee > singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. > Forget > all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not available > on > playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via dedicated telegram > group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times in a week. it has 2 > version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. Commentary screen reader > international version without chinies language support, small in size. > Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not do in > about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, this person > could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version does have all these > things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha solving capability and many > more > features. but it's basic or free version also does many things Talkback > developpers could not even think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use > its free version sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in > the task, and more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. > They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or > Commentary > screen reader, and people from various countries do great amount of > voluntary work like making it developped in different different languages > etc without any monitary thing involved is just amazing. This shows the > commitment, this is just an example of strong will for the work undertaken > with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi baat", giants like google does have > lots of things to learn from these people undoubtedly. and I can't stop > from > laughing when I hear hollow statements from google pertaining to > accessibility for all etc. > It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it is > Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's Chinies app > does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. > > Vande Mataram > > Sandesh > > - Original Message - > From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" > mailto:bikram.greets...@gmail.com>> > To: mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > Hello sir, > > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context of > the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh >> mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Namaskar again! >> >> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: >> >> TalkBack 12.1: >> • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text >> • Window navigation >> >> It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled >> images" is OCR feature. >> >> But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Hey does it have Braille keypad as well? Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in on behalf of Bikram Sent: Friday, November 19, 2021 12:39:11 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hello sir, That sounds really awesome! I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the resources off the list to obtain the same. On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: Namaskar! As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader also known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. Forget all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not available on playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via dedicated telegram group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times in a week. it has 2 version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. Commentary screen reader international version without chinies language support, small in size. Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not do in about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, this person could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version does have all these things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha solving capability and many more features. but it's basic or free version also does many things Talkback developpers could not even think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use its free version sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in the task, and more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or Commentary screen reader, and people from various countries do great amount of voluntary work like making it developped in different different languages etc without any monitary thing involved is just amazing. This shows the commitment, this is just an example of strong will for the work undertaken with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi baat", giants like google does have lots of things to learn from these people undoubtedly. and I can't stop from laughing when I hear hollow statements from google pertaining to accessibility for all etc. It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it is Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's Chinies app does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" mailto:bikram.greets...@gmail.com>> To: mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hello sir, Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” Sent from my iPhone > On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh > mailto:sandeshnaray...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Namaskar again! > > Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: > > TalkBack 12.1: > • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text > • Window navigation > > It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled > images" is OCR feature. > > But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. > > You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having > various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind. > > Vande Mataram > > - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" > mailto:dl.vi...@gmail.com>> > To: mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM > Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are > able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled > buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know > which phones have what additional features. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>> On > Behalf Of Sandesh > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in<mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Namaskar Vikas and all! > > There seems confusion here. > the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to > Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both > Select t
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Hello sir, That sounds really awesome! I Would love to try that out. Would be great if you could share the resources off the list to obtain the same. On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 11:54 AM Sandesh wrote: > Namaskar! > > As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader also > known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee > singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. > Forget > all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not available > on > playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via dedicated > telegram > group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times in a week. it has 2 > version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. Commentary screen reader > international version without chinies language support, small in size. > Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not do > in > about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, this person > could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version does have all these > things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha solving capability and many > more > features. but it's basic or free version also does many things Talkback > developpers could not even think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use > its free version sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in > the task, and more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. > They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or > Commentary > screen reader, and people from various countries do great amount of > voluntary work like making it developped in different different languages > etc without any monitary thing involved is just amazing. This shows the > commitment, this is just an example of strong will for the work undertaken > with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi baat", giants like google does have > lots of things to learn from these people undoubtedly. and I can't stop > from > laughing when I hear hollow statements from google pertaining to > accessibility for all etc. > It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it is > Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's Chinies app > does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. > > Vande Mataram > > Sandesh > > ----- Original Message - > From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > Hello sir, > > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context > of > the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh wrote: > > > > Namaskar again! > > > > Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: > > > > TalkBack 12.1: > > • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text > > • Window navigation > > > > It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for > unlabeled > > images" is OCR feature. > > > > But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. > > > > You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there > having > > various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag > behind. > > > > Vande Mataram > > > > - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM > > Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > > > > I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak > are > > able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled > > buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know > > which phones have what additional features. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > On > > Behalf Of Sandesh > > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > > Namaskar Vikas and all! > > > > There seems confusion here. > > the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select > to > > Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both > > Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. > > > > In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of > > accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or > with &
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Namaskar! As already answered by Satguru, this is an alternate screen reader also known as Jieshuo+. it is developped by a Chinies man named Lee singlehandedly, and it surpasses in many things compared to Talkback. Forget all other features, its responsiveness is just awsome. It's not available on playstore. But he gives continuous updates regularly via dedicated telegram group, sometimes, the app is updated 3 to 4 times in a week. it has 2 version, 1. Commentary screen reader and 2. Commentary screen reader international version without chinies language support, small in size. Whether people like it or not, it's fact that things Google could not do in about 10 or 12 or more years of Android journey of Talkback, this person could achieve it in 10 or 12 months. It's paid version does have all these things like OCR, sceen recognition, Captcha solving capability and many more features. but it's basic or free version also does many things Talkback developpers could not even think anytime. I do have it in my phone and use its free version sometimes when I am sure talkback would not assist me in the task, and more than half of the times, Jieshuo+ does not disappoint. They have their telegram group specially dedicated to Jieshuo+ or Commentary screen reader, and people from various countries do great amount of voluntary work like making it developped in different different languages etc without any monitary thing involved is just amazing. This shows the commitment, this is just an example of strong will for the work undertaken with dedication. and "Chota Muh badi baat", giants like google does have lots of things to learn from these people undoubtedly. and I can't stop from laughing when I hear hollow statements from google pertaining to accessibility for all etc. It is personal choice afterall, whether to use it or not, we know it is Chinies software, no need to say more on that, but just it's Chinies app does not disqualify it from the praise it is worthy of. Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: "BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA" To: Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hello sir, Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” Sent from my iPhone On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh wrote: Namaskar again! Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: TalkBack 12.1: • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text • Window navigation It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled images" is OCR feature. But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind. Vande Mataram - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which phones have what additional features. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Sandesh Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Namaskar Vikas and all! There seems confusion here. the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch device. Android Accessibility Suite includes: • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". I hope, confusion is clear now. Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: == Begins the portion of the Article https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en Android Accessibility Help Use Select to Speak So
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Hi friends, I am looking for a new handset and would like to know the phones with multi finger gestures available under rs. 25000. Thanks, Rohith On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 10:29 AM Satguru Rathi wrote: > CSR stands for Commentary Screen Reader. This is another alternative to > Talkback developed by some Chinese guys. What I know is that this is a > paid software and comes with many advanced features surpassing Talkback. > What holds me back though is its non-availability on playstore. > > Best, > > Satguru. > > On 18-11-2021 12:14 am, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA wrote: > > Hello sir, > > > > Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context > of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: > > “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh wrote: > >> > >> Namaskar again! > >> > >> Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: > >> > >> TalkBack 12.1: > >> • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text > >> • Window navigation > >> > >> It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for > unlabeled images" is OCR feature. > >> > >> But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. > >> > >> You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there > having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag > behind. > >> > >> Vande Mataram > >> > >> - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM > >> Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> > >> I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak > are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled > buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know > which phones have what additional features. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > On Behalf Of Sandesh > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM > >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > >> Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > >> > >> Namaskar Vikas and all! > >> > >> There seems confusion here. > >> the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select > to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both > Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. > >> > >> In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of > accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with > a switch device. > >> > >> Android Accessibility Suite includes: > >> • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, > control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. > >> • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. > >> • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more > switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera > Switches to navigate with facial gestures. > >> • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with > gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". > >> > >> I hope, confusion is clear now. > >> > >> Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using > Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: > >> > >> == > >> Begins the portion of the Article > >> > >> > >> https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en > >> > >> Android Accessibility Help > >> > >> Use Select to Speak > >> > >> Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. > >> > >> You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described > aloud with Select to Speak for Android. > >> > >> Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak > >> 1.Open your device's Settings app . > >> 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see > Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of > Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. > >> > >> 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. > >> 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. > &
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
CSR stands for Commentary Screen Reader. This is another alternative to Talkback developed by some Chinese guys. What I know is that this is a paid software and comes with many advanced features surpassing Talkback. What holds me back though is its non-availability on playstore. Best, Satguru. On 18-11-2021 12:14 am, BIKRAMADITYA BEHERA wrote: Hello sir, Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” Sent from my iPhone On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh wrote: Namaskar again! Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: TalkBack 12.1: • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text • Window navigation It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled images" is OCR feature. But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind. Vande Mataram - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which phones have what additional features. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Sandesh Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Namaskar Vikas and all! There seems confusion here. the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch device. Android Accessibility Suite includes: • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". I hope, confusion is clear now. Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: == Begins the portion of the Article https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en Android Accessibility Help Use Select to Speak Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud with Select to Speak for Android. Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. Step 2: Use Select to Speak Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or decrease speed. Point your camera at pictures or text You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described aloud with OCR. This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. 1.Tap the Google Camera app . 2.Point the camera at an image or text. 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read. Read in the background You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background. For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Hello sir, Would you mind explaining a bit more about CSR? I didn’t get the context of the same in the below line that you have mentioned in your last reply: “But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own.” Sent from my iPhone > On 17-Nov-2021, at 2:15 PM, Sandesh wrote: > > Namaskar again! > > Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: > > TalkBack 12.1: > • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text > • Window navigation > > It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled > images" is OCR feature. > > But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. > > You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having > various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind. > > Vande Mataram > > - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM > Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > > I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are > able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled > buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which > phones have what additional features. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On > Behalf Of Sandesh > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Namaskar Vikas and all! > > There seems confusion here. > the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to > Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select > to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. > > In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of > accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a > switch device. > > Android Accessibility Suite includes: > • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, > control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. > • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. > • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches > or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches > to navigate with facial gestures. > • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with > gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". > > I hope, confusion is clear now. > > Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select > to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: > > == > Begins the portion of the Article > > > https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en > > Android Accessibility Help > > Use Select to Speak > > Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. > > You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud > with Select to Speak for Android. > > Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak > 1.Open your device's Settings app . > 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select > to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android > Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. > > 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. > 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. > > Step 2: Use Select to Speak > > Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use > your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack > is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. > 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. > 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. > 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the > buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or > decrease speed. > > Point your camera at pictures or text > > You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described > aloud with OCR. > > This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, > French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, > Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. > 1.Tap the Google Camera app . > 2.Point the camera at an image or text. > 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe > up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button > Accessibility. > 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlig
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Namaskar again! Google says this much about Talkback 12.1: TalkBack 12.1: • Automatic captions for unlabeled images that contain text • Window navigation It's natural that people may think this "Automatic captions for unlabeled images" is OCR feature. But CSR does have this OCR capability of its own. You are right, Various phones from various manufacturers are there having various additional features, even stock or pure Android phones lag behind. Vande Mataram - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which phones have what additional features. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Sandesh Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Namaskar Vikas and all! There seems confusion here. the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch device. Android Accessibility Suite includes: • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". I hope, confusion is clear now. Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: == Begins the portion of the Article https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en Android Accessibility Help Use Select to Speak Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud with Select to Speak for Android. Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. Step 2: Use Select to Speak Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or decrease speed. Point your camera at pictures or text You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described aloud with OCR. This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. 1.Tap the Google Camera app . 2.Point the camera at an image or text. 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read. Read in the background You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background. For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads. To let Select to Speak read in the background: 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. 3.Tap Settings. 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. End of Article = Regards Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have yet to get this feature, I can't guide you
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
And, this select to speak feature has been around for a few years now. Vikas sir, If you can get some info from the people using the OCR, do post here. Satguru. On 17-11-2021 01:30 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which phones have what additional features. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Sandesh Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Namaskar Vikas and all! There seems confusion here. the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch device. Android Accessibility Suite includes: • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". I hope, confusion is clear now. Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: == Begins the portion of the Article https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en Android Accessibility Help Use Select to Speak Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud with Select to Speak for Android. Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. Step 2: Use Select to Speak Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or decrease speed. Point your camera at pictures or text You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described aloud with OCR. This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. 1.Tap the Google Camera app . 2.Point the camera at an image or text. 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read. Read in the background You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background. For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads. To let Select to Speak read in the background: 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. 3.Tap Settings. 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. End of Article = Regards Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people have been using this feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition re
RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
I don't think so. People who have not activated their select to speak are able to use the OCR feature, especially on images and some unlabelled buttons. Android OS being a part of open source regime, you never know which phones have what additional features. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Sandesh Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:28 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Namaskar Vikas and all! There seems confusion here. the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch device. Android Accessibility Suite includes: • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". I hope, confusion is clear now. Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: == Begins the portion of the Article https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en Android Accessibility Help Use Select to Speak Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud with Select to Speak for Android. Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. Step 2: Use Select to Speak Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or decrease speed. Point your camera at pictures or text You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described aloud with OCR. This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. 1.Tap the Google Camera app . 2.Point the camera at an image or text. 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read. Read in the background You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background. For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads. To let Select to Speak read in the background: 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. 3.Tap Settings. 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. End of Article = Regards Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people have been using this feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may be, it only pops up w
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Exactly! I also use Poco phone with Android 11. no multifinger gestures are available here. Same is there with Realme phones with version 11 of Android. Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: Satguru Rathi To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! The new talkback has been co-developed by Samsung and Google! That's why some of the features are exclusive to Pixel and Samsung users such as ability to use multi-finger gestures! The partnership is growing rapidly and is visible in the Galaxy Watch 4 as well! I for one am positive for the development to the accessibility if these two companies come together but disappointed on their partial behavior towards other OEMs such as Oneplus and likes. Like any Samsung user, I too, am running the Android 11 but can't use the multi-finger gestures being a non-Samsung or non-pixel user. Cheers. Satguru. On 17-11-2021 07:38 am, Vikas Kapoor wrote: In Android 11, the Samsung screen reader is also called Talkback, the version may differ from the regular Talkback though. The most pathetic aspect of the Samsung phones running Android 11 is that they can no longer run the Google Accessibility Suite on their phones, one can install it but cannot run, the Samsung accessibility takes over that. I suppose one should have freedom to use any one of them. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:58 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Samsung phone comes with its own screen reader is voice assistance. What about that? is it more powerful than talkback? On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, 10:57 pm faizal K A, wrote: Before Samsung was one of the good accessible phone. But now they are not at all concentrating the accessibility factors. Recently I got an opportunity to explore Samsung latest 5G A52 phone. And in this I noticed several issues like during call talkback speak very loud and we cannot even reduce the talk back volume in the call. The only thing we have to do is to mute talk back during call. This apart back button on the right bottom was not that much responsive. In YouTube when we play some Video by mistake if our finger touches the percentage slide area talk back simply speak continuously the percentage of the Video. -- Thanks and Regards. Faizal K A Mobile: 9846888227. faizal.uni...@gmail.com -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2B99WMiLTLOUcPkNWjcwaiS1giDj%3D7OW4YBSWg4%3D6ff50WHmGw%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL0OxcPi%3DOizZ8jjf17WemWskTssQDdpXpYLaqDP9ixm59ggNg%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
The new talkback has been co-developed by Samsung and Google! That's why some of the features are exclusive to Pixel and Samsung users such as ability to use multi-finger gestures! The partnership is growing rapidly and is visible in the Galaxy Watch 4 as well! I for one am positive for the development to the accessibility if these two companies come together but disappointed on their partial behavior towards other OEMs such as Oneplus and likes. Like any Samsung user, I too, am running the Android 11 but can't use the multi-finger gestures being a non-Samsung or non-pixel user. Cheers. Satguru. On 17-11-2021 07:38 am, Vikas Kapoor wrote: In Android 11, the Samsung screen reader is also called Talkback, the version may differ from the regular Talkback though. The most pathetic aspect of the Samsung phones running Android 11 is that they can no longer run the Google Accessibility Suite on their phones, one can install it but cannot run, the Samsung accessibility takes over that. I suppose one should have freedom to use any one of them. *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in *On Behalf Of *bhawani shankar verma *Sent:* Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:58 AM *To:* AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. *Subject:* Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Samsung phone comes with its own screen reader is voice assistance. What about that? is it more powerful than talkback? On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, 10:57 pm faizal K A, wrote: Before Samsung was one of the good accessible phone. But now they are not at all concentrating the accessibility factors. Recently I got an opportunity to explore Samsung latest 5G A52 phone. And in this I noticed several issues like during call talkback speak very loud and we cannot even reduce the talk back volume in the call. The only thing we have to do is to mute talk back during call. This apart back button on the right bottom was not that much responsive. In YouTube when we play some Video by mistake if our finger touches the percentage slide area talk back simply speak continuously the percentage of the Video. -- Thanks and Regards. Faizal K A Mobile: 9846888227. faizal.uni...@gmail.com -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia%2bunsubscr...@accessindia.org.in>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2B99WMiLTLOUcPkNWjcwaiS1giDj%3D7OW4YBSWg4%3D6ff50WHmGw%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL0OxcPi%3DOizZ8jjf17WemWskTssQDdpXpYLaqDP9ixm59ggNg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL0OxcPi%3DOizZ8jjf17WemWskTssQDdpXpYLaqDP9ixm59ggNg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000e01d7db57%24f84ea3e0%24e8ebeba0%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/acce
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Namaskar Vikas and all! There seems confusion here. the feature you are talking is not talkback feature, rather it's Select to Speak one. And now, it's part of Android Accessibility package. both Select to Speak and Talkback are parts of Android Accessibility suite. In google's words, "Android Accessibility Suite is a collection of accessibility apps that help you use your Android device eyes-free or with a switch device. Android Accessibility Suite includes: • Accessibility Menu: Use this large on-screen menu to lock your phone, control volume and brightness, take screenshots, and more. • Select to Speak: Select items on your screen and hear them read aloud. • Switch Access: Interact with your Android device using one or more switches or a keyboard instead of the touch screen - **newly added** Camera Switches to navigate with facial gestures. • TalkBack screen reader: Get spoken feedback, control your device with gestures, and type with the on-screen braille keyboard". I hope, confusion is clear now. Still, I am pasting here relevant part of Google help article on using Select to Speak for OCR purpose with it's URL: == Begins the portion of the Article https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/7349565?hl=en Android Accessibility Help Use Select to Speak Some of these steps work only on Android 11.0 and up. You can select items on your screen and hear them read or described aloud with Select to Speak for Android. Step 1: Turn on Select to Speak 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. •Note: If you don't see Select to Speak, go to Google Play to download the latest version of Android Accessibility Suite, then try these steps again. 3.Turn on Select to Speak shortcut. 4.Optional: To change your shortcut, tap Select to Speak shortcut. Step 2: Use Select to Speak Hear descriptions of things on your screen 1.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 2.Tap an item on your screen, like text or an image. 3.To hear multiple items, drag your finger across the screen. 4.To hear everything, tap Play Play. •Tip: When the player is open, use the buttons to pause or play, skip forward or backward, and to increase or decrease speed. Point your camera at pictures or text You can point your camera at pictures or text to hear them read or described aloud with OCR. This feature is available for Catalan, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, Latin, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish, Tagalog, and Turkish. 1.Tap the Google Camera app . 2.Point the camera at an image or text. 3.To start Select to Speak, use your Select to Speak shortcut: 2-finger swipe up (3-finger swipe if TalkBack is on), or tap the Accessibility button Accessibility. 4.Drag your finger across the screen, highlighting the text you want to read. Read in the background You can do other things while Select to Speak is reading in the background. For example, scroll down or switch to another app while Select to Speak reads. To let Select to Speak read in the background: 1.Open your device's Settings app . 2.Tap Accessibility, then tap Select to Speak. 3.Tap Settings. 4.At the top, turn on Read in background. Note: Select to Speak might not work with every mobile web browser. End of Article = Regards Vande Mataram Sandesh - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:53 PM Subject: RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people have been using this feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. Hope to learn more on this. Best, Satguru. On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when Samsung is going to provide the same feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf
RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
In Android 11, the Samsung screen reader is also called Talkback, the version may differ from the regular Talkback though. The most pathetic aspect of the Samsung phones running Android 11 is that they can no longer run the Google Accessibility Suite on their phones, one can install it but cannot run, the Samsung accessibility takes over that. I suppose one should have freedom to use any one of them. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 1:58 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Samsung phone comes with its own screen reader is voice assistance. What about that? is it more powerful than talkback? On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, 10:57 pm faizal K A, mailto:faizal.uni...@gmail.com> > wrote: Before Samsung was one of the good accessible phone. But now they are not at all concentrating the accessibility factors. Recently I got an opportunity to explore Samsung latest 5G A52 phone. And in this I noticed several issues like during call talkback speak very loud and we cannot even reduce the talk back volume in the call. The only thing we have to do is to mute talk back during call. This apart back button on the right bottom was not that much responsive. In YouTube when we play some Video by mistake if our finger touches the percentage slide area talk back simply speak continuously the percentage of the Video. -- Thanks and Regards. Faizal K A Mobile: 9846888227. faizal.uni...@gmail.com <mailto:faizal.uni...@gmail.com> -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia%2bunsubscr...@accessindia.org.in> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2B99WMiLTLOUcPkNWjcwaiS1giDj%3D7OW4YBSWg4%3D6ff50WHmGw%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL0OxcPi%3DOizZ8jjf17WemWskTssQDdpXpYLaqDP9ixm59ggNg%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL0OxcPi%3DOizZ8jjf17WemWskTssQDdpXpYLaqDP9ixm59ggNg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000e01d7db57%24f84ea3e0%24e8ebeba0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Samsung phone comes with its own screen reader is voice assistance. What about that? is it more powerful than talkback? On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, 10:57 pm faizal K A, wrote: > Before Samsung was one of the good accessible phone. But now they are > not at all concentrating the accessibility factors. Recently I got an > opportunity to explore Samsung latest 5G A52 phone. And in this I > noticed several issues like during call talkback speak very loud and > we cannot even reduce the talk back volume in the call. The only thing > we have to do is to mute talk back during call. This apart back button > on the right bottom was not that much responsive. In YouTube when we > play some Video by mistake if our finger touches the percentage slide > area talk back simply speak continuously the percentage of the Video. > > -- > Thanks and Regards. > Faizal K A > Mobile: 9846888227. > faizal.uni...@gmail.com > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2B99WMiLTLOUcPkNWjcwaiS1giDj%3D7OW4YBSWg4%3D6ff50WHmGw%40mail.gmail.com > . > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL0OxcPi%3DOizZ8jjf17WemWskTssQDdpXpYLaqDP9ixm59ggNg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Before Samsung was one of the good accessible phone. But now they are not at all concentrating the accessibility factors. Recently I got an opportunity to explore Samsung latest 5G A52 phone. And in this I noticed several issues like during call talkback speak very loud and we cannot even reduce the talk back volume in the call. The only thing we have to do is to mute talk back during call. This apart back button on the right bottom was not that much responsive. In YouTube when we play some Video by mistake if our finger touches the percentage slide area talk back simply speak continuously the percentage of the Video. -- Thanks and Regards. Faizal K A Mobile: 9846888227. faizal.uni...@gmail.com -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CA%2B99WMiLTLOUcPkNWjcwaiS1giDj%3D7OW4YBSWg4%3D6ff50WHmGw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
well samsung is not that grate as it used to be now. they have ruined their accessibility features. On 11/16/21, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have > yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people > have been using this feature. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On > Behalf Of Satguru Rathi > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > ability to perform OCR through built-in > OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not > aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this > though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing > text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may > be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. > > Hope to learn more on this. > > > Best, > > Satguru. > > On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: >> But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to >> those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through >> built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when >> Samsung is going to provide the same feature. >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi >> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! >> >> Hi, >> >> >> Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and >> double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for >> years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on >> almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. >> >> Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then >> right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". >> You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap >> and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is >> activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen >> 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the >> standard method though, but that's the personal choice >> >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Best, >> >> Satguru. >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com. >> > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/637f36d2-6d43-f2e3-25f1-a645309fd802%40gmail.com. > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to
RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Yes Satguru, it is a TalkBack feature, since I have Samsung phone and I have yet to get this feature, I can't guide you more on this, but many people have been using this feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 2:56 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. Hope to learn more on this. Best, Satguru. On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to those > of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through built-in > OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when Samsung is going > to provide the same feature. > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! > > Hi, > > > Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and double > tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for years! That > changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on almost any android > phone running the mentioned version of the TB. > > Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then right),navigate > to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". > You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap > and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is > activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen > 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the > standard method though, but that's the personal choice > > > Enjoy! > > Best, > > Satguru. > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com. > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/637f36d2-6d43-f2e3-25f1-a645309fd802%40gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000401d7daed%2429b1a010%247d14e030%24%40gmail.com.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Thanks for that correction! That's true that it'll work with GBoard only and since I mentioned that this comes with TB 12.1, so I assumed that it'll be taken as a Talkback feature only. Cheers! Satguru. On 16-11-2021 01:44 pm, Sandesh wrote: This setting is for Gboard only. Those loving double tap to type were using Blind Accessibility keyboard for years, sadly this great keyboard is not further updated by the developer. one thing is there, this is talkback specific feature, as soon as you change the screen reader for example start using commentary, this feature does not work, meaning your Gboard starts working with lift and type mode. And when back with talkback, your set feature comes again. And yes, Thanks for sharing of course. Vande Mataram - Original Message - From: "Satguru Rathi" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hi, Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the standard method though, but that's the personal choice Enjoy! Best, Satguru. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/3c78c358-69c8-eaee-d942-55fa05579813%40gmail.com.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app??I first thought I've miss read it! I'm not aware of any such feature on my phone! There is one addition related to this though which is known as "Automatic captioning of unlabled images containing text" but I can't find it anywhere in the talkback settings! but then may be, it only pops up when there is an unlabled image with text. Hope to learn more on this. Best, Satguru. On 16-11-2021 02:22 pm, Vikas Kapoor wrote: But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when Samsung is going to provide the same feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hi, Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the standard method though, but that's the personal choice Enjoy! Best, Satguru. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/637f36d2-6d43-f2e3-25f1-a645309fd802%40gmail.com.
RE: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
But Samsung phone users are certainly missing one important feature to those of non-Samsung users, which is the ability to perform OCR through built-in OCR without any third-party app. We have no idea as to when Samsung is going to provide the same feature. -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Satguru Rathi Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hi, Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the standard method though, but that's the personal choice Enjoy! Best, Satguru. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000901d7dac7%24549d48e0%24fdd7daa0%24%40gmail.com.
Re: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
This setting is for Gboard only. Those loving double tap to type were using Blind Accessibility keyboard for years, sadly this great keyboard is not further updated by the developer. one thing is there, this is talkback specific feature, as soon as you change the screen reader for example start using commentary, this feature does not work, meaning your Gboard starts working with lift and type mode. And when back with talkback, your set feature comes again. And yes, Thanks for sharing of course. Vande Mataram - Original Message - From: "Satguru Rathi" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:12 PM Subject: [AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1! Hi, Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the standard method though, but that's the personal choice Enjoy! Best, Satguru. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000c01d7dac2%240bd184f0%24745ea8c0%40bankofbaroda.co.in.
[AI] A useful addition to Talkback 12.1!
Hi, Many of us using non Samsung phones have been admiring the touch and double tap to type feature of the Samsung keyboard on their phones for years! That changes with TB 12.1! You can now activate this feature on almost any android phone running the mentioned version of the TB. Steps: Open the TB settings from the TB menu (Swipe up then right),navigate to Advanced settings and then to "Typing Preference". You'll find two options: Hold finger to select key, then double tap and second, Hold finger to select key, then lift. The second one is activated by default. I've tried it on my Oneplus 8 running Oxygen 11.0.9.9 based on Android 11 and it is working fine. I prefer the standard method though, but that's the personal choice Enjoy! Best, Satguru. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/1bac8fc4-4a8c-7e15-8b06-3b4504b705d1%40gmail.com.
