Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

I think they may have killed the Gigabeam name... it's just listed as "60G
Link" in the beta store now.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 5:33 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> The gigabeam name is rather funny for anyone that saw a first-generation
> 71-86GHz gigabeam product. It was the original competitor of the Bridgewave
> GE80 but didn't do so well in the market, due to being more difficult to
> install and with a weird user interface for configuration.
>
> The original gigabeam went bankrupt quite some time ago...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:56 AM Dan Spitler  wrote:
>
>> They accidentally leaked it to the beta store early and has been "coming
>> soon" for a while now:
>> https://store.ui.com/collections/early-access/products/gbe-us-beta
>> Since it was approved, I'm hoping to snag a pair once they're available,
>> though I think the Mikrotik kit is a better deal: Cheaper, simpler
>> form-factor, beamforming (doesn't appear the Ubnt has it based on the FCC
>> docs), and multipoint support (just guessing the Ubnt is point-to-point
>> only for now).
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:05 AM Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ubiquiti outdoor 60Ghz
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: FCC ID Alert 
>>> Date: Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:57 PM
>>> Subject: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
>>> for New Equipment
>>> To: 
>>>
>>>
>>> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New
>>> Equipment.
>>> FCC ID SWX-60GL
>>> 
>>> Equipment: 60G Link
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Bill Prince]

Bet that smarts.

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 6:43 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Anal tax?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 6:26 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
> I have a pretty scrupulous CPA and an equally anal tax attorney.  If I
> ever get it trouble it will be a huge surprise.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 4:57 PM
>
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
> There was an article in the paper I think today about how the IRS doesn’t
> have the staff to go after people who don’t pay their taxes, it used
> Michael Avenatti as an example.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/opinion/irs-taxes.html
>
>
>
> There was also an article online about how the FCC and FTC hardly ever
> collect any of their fines.
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-fined-robocallers-208-million-since-2015-but-collected-only-6790/
>
>
>
> So apparently the answer is just don’t pay your taxes.  Heck be like
> Avenatti and don’t even file.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 5:49 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
> Clearly you don't make enough money to deserve a tax cut...  I kid.  The
> increase in the standard deduction is great though.  Paves the way for a
> future administration to get rid of the formerly sacred mortgage interest
> deduction.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
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>
>
> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went
> up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Ken Hohhof]

Anal tax?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 6:26 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

 

I have a pretty scrupulous CPA and an equally anal tax attorney.  If I ever get 
it trouble it will be a huge surprise.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:57 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

 

There was an article in the paper I think today about how the IRS doesn’t have 
the staff to go after people who don’t pay their taxes, it used Michael 
Avenatti as an example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/opinion/irs-taxes.html

 

There was also an article online about how the FCC and FTC hardly ever collect 
any of their fines.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-fined-robocallers-208-million-since-2015-but-collected-only-6790/

 

So apparently the answer is just don’t pay your taxes.  Heck be like Avenatti 
and don’t even file.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 5:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

 

Clearly you don't make enough money to deserve a tax cut...  I kid.  The 
increase in the standard deduction is great though.  Paves the way for a future 
administration to get rid of the formerly sacred mortgage interest deduction.  

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went up 
by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%

 




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[chuck]

I have a pretty scrupulous CPA and an equally anal tax attorney.  If I ever get 
it trouble it will be a huge surprise.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:57 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

There was an article in the paper I think today about how the IRS doesn’t have 
the staff to go after people who don’t pay their taxes, it used Michael 
Avenatti as an example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/opinion/irs-taxes.html

 

There was also an article online about how the FCC and FTC hardly ever collect 
any of their fines.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-fined-robocallers-208-million-since-2015-but-collected-only-6790/

 

So apparently the answer is just don’t pay your taxes.  Heck be like Avenatti 
and don’t even file.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 5:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

 

Clearly you don't make enough money to deserve a tax cut...  I kid.  The 
increase in the standard deduction is great though.  Paves the way for a future 
administration to get rid of the formerly sacred mortgage interest deduction.  

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

   

  Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went up 
by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%

   




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Ken Hohhof]

There was an article in the paper I think today about how the IRS doesn’t have 
the staff to go after people who don’t pay their taxes, it used Michael 
Avenatti as an example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/opinion/irs-taxes.html

 

There was also an article online about how the FCC and FTC hardly ever collect 
any of their fines.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/fcc-fined-robocallers-208-million-since-2015-but-collected-only-6790/

 

So apparently the answer is just don’t pay your taxes.  Heck be like Avenatti 
and don’t even file.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 5:49 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

 

Clearly you don't make enough money to deserve a tax cut...  I kid.  The 
increase in the standard deduction is great though.  Paves the way for a future 
administration to get rid of the formerly sacred mortgage interest deduction.  

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went up 
by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%

 




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Carl Peterson]

Clearly you don't make enough money to deserve a tax cut...  I kid.  The
increase in the standard deduction is great though.  Paves the way for a
future administration to get rid of the formerly sacred mortgage interest
deduction.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:26 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went
> up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New Equipment

[Eric Kuhnke]

The gigabeam name is rather funny for anyone that saw a first-generation
71-86GHz gigabeam product. It was the original competitor of the Bridgewave
GE80 but didn't do so well in the market, due to being more difficult to
install and with a weird user interface for configuration.

The original gigabeam went bankrupt quite some time ago...



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:56 AM Dan Spitler  wrote:

> They accidentally leaked it to the beta store early and has been "coming
> soon" for a while now:
> https://store.ui.com/collections/early-access/products/gbe-us-beta
> Since it was approved, I'm hoping to snag a pair once they're available,
> though I think the Mikrotik kit is a better deal: Cheaper, simpler
> form-factor, beamforming (doesn't appear the Ubnt has it based on the FCC
> docs), and multipoint support (just guessing the Ubnt is point-to-point
> only for now).
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:05 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquiti outdoor 60Ghz
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: FCC ID Alert 
>> Date: Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:57 PM
>> Subject: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
>> for New Equipment
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New
>> Equipment.
>> FCC ID SWX-60GL
>> 
>> Equipment: 60G Link
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New Equipment

[Mathew Howard]

They look pretty unimpressive to me. From what I've seen, they are PTP
only, and it looks like they're tiny antennas (so probably the equivalent
of the non-dish MikroTiks... like 13dbi or something). They do have 5ghz
backup, which Mikrotik doesn't, so there's that, but Ignitenet has that,
and they have bigger antennas and two and half times the capacity.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:56 PM Dan Spitler  wrote:

> They accidentally leaked it to the beta store early and has been "coming
> soon" for a while now:
> https://store.ui.com/collections/early-access/products/gbe-us-beta
> Since it was approved, I'm hoping to snag a pair once they're available,
> though I think the Mikrotik kit is a better deal: Cheaper, simpler
> form-factor, beamforming (doesn't appear the Ubnt has it based on the FCC
> docs), and multipoint support (just guessing the Ubnt is point-to-point
> only for now).
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:05 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquiti outdoor 60Ghz
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: FCC ID Alert 
>> Date: Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:57 PM
>> Subject: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.
>> for New Equipment
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> FCC ID Application Processed For Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New
>> Equipment.
>> FCC ID SWX-60GL
>> 
>> Equipment: 60G Link
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Bill Prince]

My suggestion is to be sitting down when you see the return for the first
time.

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:09 PM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I wish I had a guess. My accountant isn't done with all my K1's yet. Not
> his fault, mine.
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 3:05 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> ha
>> it really is lent
>>
>> Did you not communicate with your accountant last year on how to prepare?
>> Or did you just get killed by SALT?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use a sticky roller thing to remove lint.
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM  wrote:
>>>
 But, but, but, it is still Lent!

 *From:* Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...


 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...

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 On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

> I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
> People couldn't play nice, remember?
>
> On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> I am expecting the same.
>
> Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
> *To:* AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
>
>
> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income
> went up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Steve Jones]

maybe shop for an accountant.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 3:09 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> We actually increased our withholding by 150%. Was not anywhere near close
> enough.
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:04 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> ha
>> it really is lent
>>
>> Did you not communicate with your accountant last year on how to prepare?
>> Or did you just get killed by SALT?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I use a sticky roller thing to remove lint.
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM  wrote:
>>>
 But, but, but, it is still Lent!

 *From:* Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...


 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...

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 On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett 
 wrote:

> I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
> People couldn't play nice, remember?
>
> On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> I am expecting the same.
>
> Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
> *To:* AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
>
>
> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income
> went up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Lewis Bergman]

I wish I had a guess. My accountant isn't done with all my K1's yet. Not
his fault, mine.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 3:05 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> ha
> it really is lent
>
> Did you not communicate with your accountant last year on how to prepare?
> Or did you just get killed by SALT?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>>
>> I use a sticky roller thing to remove lint.
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> But, but, but, it is still Lent!
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
>>> 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
>>> 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
 People couldn't play nice, remember?

 On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

 I am expecting the same.

 Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!

 Adam



 *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
 *To:* AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...





 Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income
 went up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Bill Prince]

We actually increased our withholding by 150%. Was not anywhere near close
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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:04 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> ha
> it really is lent
>
> Did you not communicate with your accountant last year on how to prepare?
> Or did you just get killed by SALT?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>>
>> I use a sticky roller thing to remove lint.
>>
>> --
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>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> But, but, but, it is still Lent!
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
>>> 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
>>> 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
 People couldn't play nice, remember?

 On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

 I am expecting the same.

 Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!

 Adam



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 *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
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 *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...





 Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income
 went up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Steve Jones]

ha
it really is lent

Did you not communicate with your accountant last year on how to prepare?
Or did you just get killed by SALT?



On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:28 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> I use a sticky roller thing to remove lint.
>
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> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM  wrote:
>
>> But, but, but, it is still Lent!
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>>
>>
>> 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
>> 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
>> 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...
>>
>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
>>> People couldn't play nice, remember?
>>>
>>> On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>>>
>>> I am expecting the same.
>>>
>>> Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
>>> *To:* AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income
>>> went up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Bill Prince]

I use a sticky roller thing to remove lint.

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM  wrote:

> But, but, but, it is still Lent!
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
> 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
> 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
> 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...
>
> --
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> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
>> People couldn't play nice, remember?
>>
>> On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>>
>> I am expecting the same.
>>
>> Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
>> *To:* AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income
>> went up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[David Hannum]

I Lent my money to the tax man.
I gave up all my money to the IRS for Lent this year!
I . . .   I'll stop there . . . .

Dave

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 3:03 PM James Howard  wrote:

> It’s actually Lent during Lent this time.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 1:58 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
> But, but, but, it is still Lent!
>
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
>
>
>
> 1) I did not mention individual 1 (until now)
>
> 2) I did put "OT:" at the beginning of the subject line
>
> 3) I was not disparaging any individual (but I sure was implying it)...
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
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> I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
> People couldn't play nice, remember?
>
> On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> I am expecting the same.
>
> Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[chuck]

What item in the calculations is causing this?

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...


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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

  I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
  People couldn't play nice, remember?


  On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

I am expecting the same.   

Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!

Adam



From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
To: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...





Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went 
up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%






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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[James Howard]

It's actually Lent during Lent this time.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 1:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

But, but, but, it is still Lent!

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...


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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
People couldn't play nice, remember?
On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
I am expecting the same.
Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
Adam

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
To: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...


Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went up 
by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[chuck]

But, but, but, it is still Lent!

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...


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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

  I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
  People couldn't play nice, remember?


  On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

I am expecting the same.   

Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!

Adam



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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
To: AFMUG mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...





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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: FCC ID SWX-60GL Application Processed : Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. for New Equipment

[Dan Spitler]

They accidentally leaked it to the beta store early and has been "coming
soon" for a while now:
https://store.ui.com/collections/early-access/products/gbe-us-beta
Since it was approved, I'm hoping to snag a pair once they're available,
though I think the Mikrotik kit is a better deal: Cheaper, simpler
form-factor, beamforming (doesn't appear the Ubnt has it based on the FCC
docs), and multipoint support (just guessing the Ubnt is point-to-point
only for now).

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Bill Prince]

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:47 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
> People couldn't play nice, remember?
>
> On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> I am expecting the same.
>
> Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
> *To:* AFMUG  
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...
>
>
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> Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went
> up by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[chuck]

I am finding smartsheet to be lacking group resource management.  You can 
assign a task to a person, but I have not yet figured out how to make groups of 
people so I can tell if I am running out of human resources.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:06 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

This brings back memories of my previous life in corporate America.  That was 
awhile ago, and yes MS Project was the way to go.  One company tried to force 
us all to use some very expensive client/server program that was awful.

 

What I hated was the organizations that had “project managers” not in the 
matrix management sense, but people who tracked the PERT and Gantt charts, 
hounded the actual project managers, and tattled to senior management.

 

Their approach was typically to get the actual project managers to construct 
the charts, then go through and find any “slack resources” and force you to 
eliminate them, essentially putting all tasks on the critical path.  They 
seemed unaware that slack resources are how you manage a project to stay on 
track when shit happens.  Like moving people from one task to another that is 
now critical.  Or paying an expediting fee to get PCBs or prototypes made 
quicker.  Or authorizing overtime, or hiring contractors.

 

By forcing every task to be on the critical path, they essentially guaranteed 
failure, in the sense that the schedule was doomed to slip.  Constantly.  Every 
time anything went less than perfect, the end date slipped.

 

But of course this gave them job security, since they were not project 
managers, they were project trackers and reporters.

 

When something went wrong, they would happily input the slip, and it would 
ripple to the end date, since everything was on the critical path.

 

My view was that MS Project was a planning tool, not so much a reporting tool.  
And I would always subdivide the project and delegate responsibility.  Everyone 
on the project was expected to manage their own tasks.  If something went 
wrong, they should first try to make adjustments within their own area of 
authority/responsibility to get back on track without affecting others.  If 
that was not possible, they were expected to alert the rest of the team as soon 
as possible, rather than a day before they missed their deadline, because other 
team members or the overall project manager might have options to keep the slip 
from rippling, given enough notice.

 

I think I was at a seminar once which said there was a difference between 
project tracking and project management.  The example was sailing a boat across 
a river to reach a dock at the other side.  A project tracker would constantly 
forecast where the boat would land – basically how far downstream it would miss 
the dock.  A project manager would plan how to land at the dock, despite 
variations in water and wind speed.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

 

I took a look around.  Could not see how to create dependencies or critical 
paths.  I am sure it is there but it looks like a front end for Trello.  

So far I am making progress with Smartsheet.  Not cheap, but not as expensive 
as MS Project.  

 

From: Mike Meluskey 

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:24 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

 

Here is a Gantt chart tool for Trello that I like:
https://gantt-chart.com/

 

On 29 Mar 2019, at 12:09, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

  I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.

   

  Gantt features also preferable.

   

  I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
picking up Trello for simple projects.

   

   

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

   

  Is there anything new out there I should look at?

  Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  

  I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  

   

  I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but 
I still prefer project.

  I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  

   

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Adam Moffett]

I thought we weren't allowed to talk about Individual One.
People couldn't play nice, remember?

On 3/29/2019 2:43 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


I am expecting the same.

Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!

Adam

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*To:* AFMUG 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[SmarterBroadband]

I am expecting the same.   

Nice to know he will make millions this year because of his tax cuts!!!

Adam

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:25 AM
To: AFMUG 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

 

 

Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went up 
by 8%, but my tax liability went up by 417%

 




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[AFMUG] OT: Tax cut my ass...

[Bill Prince]

Just got my completed 2018 tax return. I'm kind of stunned. My income went
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[Mark Radabaugh]

That’s right up there with with some other project budget tricks.For years 
a major bottle manufacturers projects always had a line item for “UDR” that was 
roughly 10% of the project cost.One day a senior manager got a bug up his 
ass and wanted to know what “UDR” was - Undeveloped Design Risk - a.k.a. the 
slush fund.   The usual corporate temper tantrum was thrown and no project was 
allowed to have such a thing.You can guess the rest - fewer than 10% of the 
projects made it though on budget after that, down from about 80% previously.  

Mark

> On Mar 29, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> This brings back memories of my previous life in corporate America.  That was 
> awhile ago, and yes MS Project was the way to go.  One company tried to force 
> us all to use some very expensive client/server program that was awful.
>  
> What I hated was the organizations that had “project managers” not in the 
> matrix management sense, but people who tracked the PERT and Gantt charts, 
> hounded the actual project managers, and tattled to senior management.
>  
> Their approach was typically to get the actual project managers to construct 
> the charts, then go through and find any “slack resources” and force you to 
> eliminate them, essentially putting all tasks on the critical path.  They 
> seemed unaware that slack resources are how you manage a project to stay on 
> track when shit happens.  Like moving people from one task to another that is 
> now critical.  Or paying an expediting fee to get PCBs or prototypes made 
> quicker.  Or authorizing overtime, or hiring contractors.
>  
> By forcing every task to be on the critical path, they essentially guaranteed 
> failure, in the sense that the schedule was doomed to slip.  Constantly.  
> Every time anything went less than perfect, the end date slipped.
>  
> But of course this gave them job security, since they were not project 
> managers, they were project trackers and reporters.
>  
> When something went wrong, they would happily input the slip, and it would 
> ripple to the end date, since everything was on the critical path.
>  
> My view was that MS Project was a planning tool, not so much a reporting 
> tool.  And I would always subdivide the project and delegate responsibility.  
> Everyone on the project was expected to manage their own tasks.  If something 
> went wrong, they should first try to make adjustments within their own area 
> of authority/responsibility to get back on track without affecting others.  
> If that was not possible, they were expected to alert the rest of the team as 
> soon as possible, rather than a day before they missed their deadline, 
> because other team members or the overall project manager might have options 
> to keep the slip from rippling, given enough notice.
>  
> I think I was at a seminar once which said there was a difference between 
> project tracking and project management.  The example was sailing a boat 
> across a river to reach a dock at the other side.  A project tracker would 
> constantly forecast where the boat would land – basically how far downstream 
> it would miss the dock.  A project manager would plan how to land at the 
> dock, despite variations in water and wind speed.
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:35 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  >
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software
>  
> I took a look around.  Could not see how to create dependencies or critical 
> paths.  I am sure it is there but it looks like a front end for Trello.  
> So far I am making progress with Smartsheet.  Not cheap, but not as expensive 
> as MS Project.  
>  
> From: Mike Meluskey 
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:24 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software
>  
> Here is a Gantt chart tool for Trello that I like:
> https://gantt-chart.com/ 
>  
> On 29 Mar 2019, at 12:09, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
>> I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.
>>  
>> Gantt features also preferable.
>>  
>> I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
>> picking up Trello for simple projects.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On 
>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
>> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software
>>  
>> Is there anything new out there I should look at?
>> Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  
>> I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  
>>  
>> I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but 
>> I still prefer project.
>> I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  
>>  
>> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[Ken Hohhof]

This brings back memories of my previous life in corporate America.  That was 
awhile ago, and yes MS Project was the way to go.  One company tried to force 
us all to use some very expensive client/server program that was awful.

 

What I hated was the organizations that had “project managers” not in the 
matrix management sense, but people who tracked the PERT and Gantt charts, 
hounded the actual project managers, and tattled to senior management.

 

Their approach was typically to get the actual project managers to construct 
the charts, then go through and find any “slack resources” and force you to 
eliminate them, essentially putting all tasks on the critical path.  They 
seemed unaware that slack resources are how you manage a project to stay on 
track when shit happens.  Like moving people from one task to another that is 
now critical.  Or paying an expediting fee to get PCBs or prototypes made 
quicker.  Or authorizing overtime, or hiring contractors.

 

By forcing every task to be on the critical path, they essentially guaranteed 
failure, in the sense that the schedule was doomed to slip.  Constantly.  Every 
time anything went less than perfect, the end date slipped.

 

But of course this gave them job security, since they were not project 
managers, they were project trackers and reporters.

 

When something went wrong, they would happily input the slip, and it would 
ripple to the end date, since everything was on the critical path.

 

My view was that MS Project was a planning tool, not so much a reporting tool.  
And I would always subdivide the project and delegate responsibility.  Everyone 
on the project was expected to manage their own tasks.  If something went 
wrong, they should first try to make adjustments within their own area of 
authority/responsibility to get back on track without affecting others.  If 
that was not possible, they were expected to alert the rest of the team as soon 
as possible, rather than a day before they missed their deadline, because other 
team members or the overall project manager might have options to keep the slip 
from rippling, given enough notice.

 

I think I was at a seminar once which said there was a difference between 
project tracking and project management.  The example was sailing a boat across 
a river to reach a dock at the other side.  A project tracker would constantly 
forecast where the boat would land – basically how far downstream it would miss 
the dock.  A project manager would plan how to land at the dock, despite 
variations in water and wind speed.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:35 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

 

I took a look around.  Could not see how to create dependencies or critical 
paths.  I am sure it is there but it looks like a front end for Trello.  

So far I am making progress with Smartsheet.  Not cheap, but not as expensive 
as MS Project.  

 

From: Mike Meluskey 

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:24 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

 

Here is a Gantt chart tool for Trello that I like:
  https://gantt-chart.com/

 

On 29 Mar 2019, at 12:09, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.

 

Gantt features also preferable.

 

I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
picking up Trello for simple projects.

 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com  
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

 

Is there anything new out there I should look at?

Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  

I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  

 

I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but I 
still prefer project.

I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  

 

Opinions, recommendations, critiques?

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[Colin Stanners]

Ubiquiti outdoor 60Ghz

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[chuck]

I took a look around.  Could not see how to create dependencies or critical 
paths.  I am sure it is there but it looks like a front end for Trello.  
So far I am making progress with Smartsheet.  Not cheap, but not as expensive 
as MS Project.  

From: Mike Meluskey 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 11:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

Here is a Gantt chart tool for Trello that I like:
https://gantt-chart.com/



On 29 Mar 2019, at 12:09, Sterling Jacobson wrote:

  I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.

   

  Gantt features also preferable.

   

  I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
picking up Trello for simple projects.

   

   

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

   

  Is there anything new out there I should look at?

  Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  

  I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  

   

  I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but 
I still prefer project.

  I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  

   

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[Mike Meluskey]

Here is a Gantt chart tool for Trello that I like:
https://gantt-chart.com/


On 29 Mar 2019, at 12:09, Sterling Jacobson wrote:


I'm looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.

Gantt features also preferable.

I'm migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I'm 
thinking of picking up Trello for simple projects.




From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

Is there anything new out there I should look at?
Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.
I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.

I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  
Worked but I still prefer project.
I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it 
now.


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Re: [AFMUG] mac books

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Substitute Chromebook and Android in the below
  sentence. Save enough to buy a couple of flatscreen TVs.

bp



On 3/29/2019 6:21 AM, Daniel White
  wrote:

If you
  have an iPad and iPhone... it is very seemless
  for them to work together.  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[chuck]

I think I am going to give smartsheet a go.  I hate subscription based software 
but I also hate $2000 packages with support payments too.  
Last time I needed to do this I scrimped with an opens source gantt product.  
It was barely able to do the task.  I don’t want to use it again.  

From: Ryan Hill 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:15 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

We’re also looking! 

We are currently using getFlow www.getflow.com but it’s a bit cumbersome.  





  
 Ryan Hill 
   Operations Manager
 Amplex Internet
  (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 
  www.amplex.net








  On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:13 PM,   wrote:

  I used MS Project in the past and it was great.  
  Not sure  yet what it costs these days. 

  From: Sterling Jacobson
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:09 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

  I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.
   
  Gantt features also preferable.
   
  I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
picking up Trello for simple projects.
   
   
   
  From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software
   
  Is there anything new out there I should look at?
  Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  
  I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  
   
  I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but 
I still prefer project.
  I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  
   
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[Ryan Hill]

We’re also looking!

We are currently using getFlow www.getflow.com  but 
it’s a bit cumbersome.  



  
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   Operations Manager
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  (419)837-5015 Ext 1047 
  www.amplex.net 






> On Mar 29, 2019, at 12:13 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I used MS Project in the past and it was great.  
> Not sure  yet what it costs these days. 
>  
> From: Sterling Jacobson <>
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:09 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software
>  
> I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.
>  
> Gantt features also preferable.
>  
> I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
> picking up Trello for simple projects.
>  
>  
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software
>  
> Is there anything new out there I should look at?
> Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  
> I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  
>  
> I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but 
> I still prefer project.
> I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  
>  
> Opinions, recommendations, critiques?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[chuck]

I used MS Project in the past and it was great.  
Not sure  yet what it costs these days.  

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

I’m looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.

 

Gantt features also preferable.

 

I’m migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I’m thinking of 
picking up Trello for simple projects.

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

 

Is there anything new out there I should look at?

Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  

I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  

 

I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but I 
still prefer project.

I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[Sterling Jacobson]

I'm looking as well so let me know if you find something you like.

Gantt features also preferable.

I'm migrating my teams to Slack which has worked well, and I'm thinking of 
picking up Trello for simple projects.



From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:00 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

Is there anything new out there I should look at?
Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.
I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.

I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but I 
still prefer project.
I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.

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Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

[chuck]

They need to be topped with queso fresco or quesco blanco.

-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley

Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

I usually don't eat much of the refried beans at Mexican restaurants.
However, there is one small restaurant which I think is "authentic" that
has awesome beans and I wondered how they made them so good but figured
I really didn't want to know.  It's probably the lard.

Cameron Crum wrote:
The secret to good refried beans seams to be lard. I don't know the 
proportions of beans to lard, but I always see the mexican grandmas as the 
Fiesta Supermarket near my house buying dried pinto beans and lard.




On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:36 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


First of all, February was just last month.  And he posted to his
Facebook page as recently as today, so apparently he’s doing
fine.  Or if he was abducted by aliens, they left a doppelganger
android in his place a la Last Starfighter.  FYI he has some nice
photos on his FB page, work sites, grandkids, etc.

https://www.facebook.com/jaime.solorza.35

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:51 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

I think something happenned to jaime, hes been gone since feb

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Forrest Christian (List Account)
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:

I have a similar problem when trying to do refried beans, or
pretty
much any "mexican" dish which uses beans.  (Dip, Just a side of
refried or black/pinto beans, "Mission Style" burritos, etc.).   I
just haven't found the right mixture/method to get them flavored
nicely with that flavor we all associate with beans cooked for
this
purpose.

And no, not giving up meat for lent, just tend to be less of a
meat
eater than most.  Although some nice Beef Barbacoa or similar type
"shredded beef" is a favorite of mine.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>
> Part of the problem might be that burritos are not really
Mexican, maybe they are “Tex-Mex” or “Mexican Fusion”.
>
>
>
> Personally I’d prefer tacos al pastor and black beans on the
side.  Are you giving up meat for Lent?  Be sure to pick up
some Beano.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:08 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"
>
>
>
> Jaime, Jaime, paging Jaime.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:23 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Not exactly what you're looking for, but I recently saw a
recipe for "Backyard BBQ Beans" on Cook's  Country. It was not
exactly a "beans for burrito" kind of dish, but it looked killer.
>
>
>
> They took regular baked beans plus some some cannellini
beans plus pinto beans. However, they mixed in bratwurst,
bacon and several other things. During the prep they claimed
that the secret ingredient was liquid smoke. Other than the
fact that the recipe was huge, it looked pretty darn tasty.
>
>
>
> --
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> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM Forrest Christian (List
Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>
wrote:
>
> Hoping Jaime or someone else can help me...
>
> I occasionally have the need for a mexican-style bean
filling recipe -
> typically to be used as filling for a burrito or similar.   So 
far,

> all of my attempts have turned out to not even be close to
what I'm
> looking for.
>
> Originally the recipes I found ended up tasting more like
what you'd
> have if you blended homemade american chili... i.e.
predominantly
> chili powder and related spices.
>
> Then there's the mix some sort of canned beans with some sort of
> tomato-heavy salsa recipes.  No thank you.
>
> I tried a bit with cooking dry beans + onions + peppers in a
pot,
> seemed to recall that was the most like what I wanted, but
never could
> get it to the right mix for some reason.  

Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

[Jay Weekley]

I usually don't eat much of the refried beans at Mexican restaurants.  
However, there is one small restaurant which I think is "authentic" that 
has awesome beans and I wondered how they made them so good but figured 
I really didn't want to know.  It's probably the lard.


Cameron Crum wrote:
The secret to good refried beans seams to be lard. I don't know the 
proportions of beans to lard, but I always see the mexican grandmas as 
the Fiesta Supermarket near my house buying dried pinto beans and lard.




On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:36 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


First of all, February was just last month.  And he posted to his
Facebook page as recently as today, so apparently he’s doing
fine.  Or if he was abducted by aliens, they left a doppelganger
android in his place a la Last Starfighter.  FYI he has some nice
photos on his FB page, work sites, grandkids, etc.

https://www.facebook.com/jaime.solorza.35

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
*Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:51 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

I think something happenned to jaime, hes been gone since feb

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Forrest Christian (List Account)
mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:

I have a similar problem when trying to do refried beans, or
pretty
much any "mexican" dish which uses beans.  (Dip, Just a side of
refried or black/pinto beans, "Mission Style" burritos, etc.).   I
just haven't found the right mixture/method to get them flavored
nicely with that flavor we all associate with beans cooked for
this
purpose.

And no, not giving up meat for lent, just tend to be less of a
meat
eater than most.  Although some nice Beef Barbacoa or similar type
"shredded beef" is a favorite of mine.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>
> Part of the problem might be that burritos are not really
Mexican, maybe they are “Tex-Mex” or “Mexican Fusion”.
>
>
>
> Personally I’d prefer tacos al pastor and black beans on the
side.  Are you giving up meat for Lent?  Be sure to pick up
some Beano.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:08 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"
>
>
>
> Jaime, Jaime, paging Jaime.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:23 PM Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Not exactly what you're looking for, but I recently saw a
recipe for "Backyard BBQ Beans" on Cook's  Country. It was not
exactly a "beans for burrito" kind of dish, but it looked killer.
>
>
>
> They took regular baked beans plus some some cannellini
beans plus pinto beans. However, they mixed in bratwurst,
bacon and several other things. During the prep they claimed
that the secret ingredient was liquid smoke. Other than the
fact that the recipe was huge, it looked pretty darn tasty.
>
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM Forrest Christian (List
Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com>>
wrote:
>
> Hoping Jaime or someone else can help me...
>
> I occasionally have the need for a mexican-style bean
filling recipe -
> typically to be used as filling for a burrito or similar.   
So far,

> all of my attempts have turned out to not even be close to
what I'm
> looking for.
>
> Originally the recipes I found ended up tasting more like
what you'd
> have if you blended homemade american chili... i.e.
predominantly
> chili powder and related spices.
>
> Then there's the mix some sort of canned beans with some sort of
> tomato-heavy salsa recipes.  No thank you.
>
> I tried a bit with cooking dry beans + onions + peppers in a
pot,
> seemed to recall that was the most like what I wanted, but
never could
> get it to the right mix for some reason.  It's been a while
since I
> experimented with this - and this is probably where I'd try
again
> absent another recommendation.
>
> Nowadays the 'healthy food' movement seems to 

Re: [AFMUG] Flying with Lithium Batteries

[chuck]

I check all my tools.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:23 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Flying with Lithium Batteries

What about the drill bits?   They wouldn't let me bring a RJ45 crimper on the 
plane because it had tiny razor blades on it.  Seems like a drill bit is a lot 
more weaponizable than a 1/2" long razor.
-Adam



On 3/28/2019 8:27 PM, Steve Utick wrote:

  I've flown numerous times in the last year with my cordless drill.   I put 
the drill itself in my checked bag and carry the battery for it in my carry on. 
 I usually put it in a plastic zip lock bag inside my checked bag.   Most of 
the time, flying out of our smaller airport, they will check out my bag by 
hand, but I've never had anyone even look twice at it when flying home out of 
larger airports.   Never had any issues with anyone questioning it at all, just 
our local airport is small and they seem bored and looking for things to do.   
I've never taken a charger with me, never had that much to do that I'd need to 
charge my drill while I've been out.



  On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

I'm going with a group of High School kids from Church to the Bahamas 
this summer to do hurricane relief construction.  Has anyone flown with 
Drill batteries recently?  It looks like the FAA Allows Lithium 
batteries that are <=100 Watt Hour in your carry on bag, they are not 
allowed in checked baggage.  A Dewalt 20v, 5ah battery is 100WH.  Has 
anyone flown with batteries, do you have to do anything special in 
screening or anything?

From this document 

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf
 
It says that chargers are considered volatile, and must be treated as 
batteries, I'm not sure why that would be.  According to the infographic 
it seems that the battery can be in the checked bag if it's attached to 
a tool?  That doesn't seem to make any sense.

Nate

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Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

[chuck]

Yep.  Get an instapot to cook them in.  (30 minutes)
Mix of pinto and black.
Drain add diced onions (lots of onions) and fresh diced jalapenos.  

Fry in lard. Plenty of lard to keep them from sticking and burning but not so 
much that it becomes a significant liquid element in the mix.  
Mash up the whole works or even use a stick blender if you like them creamy and 
smooth.  
I like to add cumin and a bit of garlic.  

Cheap, easy, yummy.  
Dang, now I am hungry.  

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 9:08 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

The secret to good refried beans seams to be lard. I don't know the proportions 
of beans to lard, but I always see the mexican grandmas as the Fiesta 
Supermarket near my house buying dried pinto beans and lard.  



On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:36 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  First of all, February was just last month.  And he posted to his Facebook 
page as recently as today, so apparently he’s doing fine.  Or if he was 
abducted by aliens, they left a doppelganger android in his place a la Last 
Starfighter.  FYI he has some nice photos on his FB page, work sites, 
grandkids, etc.



  https://www.facebook.com/jaime.solorza.35





  From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:51 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"



  I think something happenned to jaime, hes been gone since feb





  On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:

I have a similar problem when trying to do refried beans, or pretty
much any "mexican" dish which uses beans.  (Dip, Just a side of
refried or black/pinto beans, "Mission Style" burritos, etc.).   I
just haven't found the right mixture/method to get them flavored
nicely with that flavor we all associate with beans cooked for this
purpose.

And no, not giving up meat for lent, just tend to be less of a meat
eater than most.  Although some nice Beef Barbacoa or similar type
"shredded beef" is a favorite of mine.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Part of the problem might be that burritos are not really Mexican, maybe 
they are “Tex-Mex” or “Mexican Fusion”.
>
>
>
> Personally I’d prefer tacos al pastor and black beans on the side.  Are 
you giving up meat for Lent?  Be sure to pick up some Beano.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:08 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"
>
>
>
> Jaime, Jaime, paging Jaime.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:23 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Not exactly what you're looking for, but I recently saw a recipe for 
"Backyard BBQ Beans" on Cook's  Country. It was not exactly a "beans for 
burrito" kind of dish, but it looked killer.
>
>
>
> They took regular baked beans plus some some cannellini beans plus pinto 
beans. However, they mixed in bratwurst, bacon and several other things. During 
the prep they claimed that the secret ingredient was liquid smoke. Other than 
the fact that the recipe was huge, it looked pretty darn tasty.
>
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:
>
> Hoping Jaime or someone else can help me...
>
> I occasionally have the need for a mexican-style bean filling recipe -
> typically to be used as filling for a burrito or similar.So far,
> all of my attempts have turned out to not even be close to what I'm
> looking for.
>
> Originally the recipes I found ended up tasting more like what you'd
> have if you blended homemade american chili...  i.e. predominantly
> chili powder and related spices.
>
> Then there's the mix some sort of canned beans with some sort of
> tomato-heavy salsa recipes.  No thank you.
>
> I tried a bit with cooking dry beans + onions + peppers in a pot,
> seemed to recall that was the most like what I wanted, but never could
> get it to the right mix for some reason.  It's been a while since I
> experimented with this - and this is probably where I'd try again
> absent another recommendation.
>
> Nowadays the 'healthy food' movement seems to have taken over any bean
> dish and you end up with crap like "Vegan Black Beans" with all sorts
> of weird stuff in them.
>
> So I'm hopeful that someone on here has come up with a good,
> flavorful, recipe.   The ones I've tasted elsewhere tend to have a
> nice mild pepper flavor without being overpowering or too hot.  And by
> pepper I mean either a bell pepper flavor or maybe some of the milder
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Flying with Lithium Batteries

[Adam Moffett]

What about the drill bits?   They wouldn't let me bring a RJ45 crimper 
on the plane because it had tiny razor blades on it.  Seems like a drill 
bit is a lot more weaponizable than a 1/2" long razor.

-Adam


On 3/28/2019 8:27 PM, Steve Utick wrote:
I've flown numerous times in the last year with my cordless drill.   I 
put the drill itself in my checked bag and carry the battery for it in 
my carry on.  I usually put it in a plastic zip lock bag inside my 
checked bag.   Most of the time, flying out of our smaller airport, 
they will check out my bag by hand, but I've never had anyone even 
look twice at it when flying home out of larger airports.   Never had 
any issues with anyone questioning it at all, just our local airport 
is small and they seem bored and looking for things to do.   I've 
never taken a charger with me, never had that much to do that I'd need 
to charge my drill while I've been out.



On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Nate Burke > wrote:


I'm going with a group of High School kids from Church to the Bahamas
this summer to do hurricane relief construction.  Has anyone flown
with
Drill batteries recently?  It looks like the FAA Allows Lithium
batteries that are <=100 Watt Hour in your carry on bag, they are not
allowed in checked baggage.  A Dewalt 20v, 5ah battery is 100WH.  Has
anyone flown with batteries, do you have to do anything special in
screening or anything?

 From this document

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

It says that chargers are considered volatile, and must be treated as
batteries, I'm not sure why that would be.  According to the
infographic
it seems that the battery can be in the checked bag if it's
attached to
a tool?  That doesn't seem to make any sense.

Nate

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Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"

[Cameron Crum]

The secret to good refried beans seams to be lard. I don't know the
proportions of beans to lard, but I always see the mexican grandmas as the
Fiesta Supermarket near my house buying dried pinto beans and lard.



On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 9:36 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> First of all, February was just last month.  And he posted to his Facebook
> page as recently as today, so apparently he’s doing fine.  Or if he was
> abducted by aliens, they left a doppelganger android in his place a la Last
> Starfighter.  FYI he has some nice photos on his FB page, work sites,
> grandkids, etc.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/jaime.solorza.35
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"
>
>
>
> I think something happenned to jaime, hes been gone since feb
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> I have a similar problem when trying to do refried beans, or pretty
> much any "mexican" dish which uses beans.  (Dip, Just a side of
> refried or black/pinto beans, "Mission Style" burritos, etc.).   I
> just haven't found the right mixture/method to get them flavored
> nicely with that flavor we all associate with beans cooked for this
> purpose.
>
> And no, not giving up meat for lent, just tend to be less of a meat
> eater than most.  Although some nice Beef Barbacoa or similar type
> "shredded beef" is a favorite of mine.
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:26 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> >
> > Part of the problem might be that burritos are not really Mexican, maybe
> they are “Tex-Mex” or “Mexican Fusion”.
> >
> >
> >
> > Personally I’d prefer tacos al pastor and black beans on the side.  Are
> you giving up meat for Lent?  Be sure to pick up some Beano.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 6:08 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT] Mexican-style bean "filling"
> >
> >
> >
> > Jaime, Jaime, paging Jaime.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:23 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
> >
> > Not exactly what you're looking for, but I recently saw a recipe for
> "Backyard BBQ Beans" on Cook's  Country. It was not exactly a "beans for
> burrito" kind of dish, but it looked killer.
> >
> >
> >
> > They took regular baked beans plus some some cannellini beans plus pinto
> beans. However, they mixed in bratwurst, bacon and several other things.
> During the prep they claimed that the secret ingredient was liquid smoke.
> Other than the fact that the recipe was huge, it looked pretty darn tasty.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > bp
> >
> > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hoping Jaime or someone else can help me...
> >
> > I occasionally have the need for a mexican-style bean filling recipe -
> > typically to be used as filling for a burrito or similar.So far,
> > all of my attempts have turned out to not even be close to what I'm
> > looking for.
> >
> > Originally the recipes I found ended up tasting more like what you'd
> > have if you blended homemade american chili...  i.e. predominantly
> > chili powder and related spices.
> >
> > Then there's the mix some sort of canned beans with some sort of
> > tomato-heavy salsa recipes.  No thank you.
> >
> > I tried a bit with cooking dry beans + onions + peppers in a pot,
> > seemed to recall that was the most like what I wanted, but never could
> > get it to the right mix for some reason.  It's been a while since I
> > experimented with this - and this is probably where I'd try again
> > absent another recommendation.
> >
> > Nowadays the 'healthy food' movement seems to have taken over any bean
> > dish and you end up with crap like "Vegan Black Beans" with all sorts
> > of weird stuff in them.
> >
> > So I'm hopeful that someone on here has come up with a good,
> > flavorful, recipe.   The ones I've tasted elsewhere tend to have a
> > nice mild pepper flavor without being overpowering or too hot.  And by
> > pepper I mean either a bell pepper flavor or maybe some of the milder
> > chili peppers.
> >
> > --
> > - Forrest
> >
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>
>
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[AFMUG] OT Project Management Software

[chuck]

Is there anything new out there I should look at?
Need Gantt charts for multiple fiber construction jobs.  
I have used MS Project years ago and really liked it.  

I had some kind of freeware stuff a few years back.  Bare bones.  Worked but I 
still prefer project.
I understand Smartsheet has some critical path and Gantt stuff in it now.  

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Re: [AFMUG] Flying with Lithium Batteries

[Tim Cailloux]

They're concerned about exposed contacts, which is why they want them in
the tool.  Just cover up the connectors with some electrical tape to keep
the contacts protected from possible short circuit.

tim


On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 9:14 AM Daniel White  wrote:

> Likewise, I've flown with cordless drills, drones, all sorts of Li-Ion
> batteries before.  So long as they are not larger than the recommendation
> put them in your carry on bag and the tools in the checked bags and you
> will be good.  They don't want Li-Ion batteries in the hold in case there
> is a cascade failure and they catch on fire.  In the cabin the thought it
> it can be extinguished.
>
> They do make bags to put Li-Ion batteries in, in case they were to fail.
> They are not that expensive if you are worried at all.
>
> 
> Daniel White
> Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
> direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
> [image: Facebook icon]   [image:
> LinkedIn icon]    [image:
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>
> Steve Utick wrote on 3/28/19 20:27:
>
> I've flown numerous times in the last year with my cordless drill.   I put
> the drill itself in my checked bag and carry the battery for it in my carry
> on.  I usually put it in a plastic zip lock bag inside my checked bag.
> Most of the time, flying out of our smaller airport, they will check out my
> bag by hand, but I've never had anyone even look twice at it when flying
> home out of larger airports.   Never had any issues with anyone questioning
> it at all, just our local airport is small and they seem bored and looking
> for things to do.   I've never taken a charger with me, never had that much
> to do that I'd need to charge my drill while I've been out.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I'm going with a group of High School kids from Church to the Bahamas
>> this summer to do hurricane relief construction.  Has anyone flown with
>> Drill batteries recently?  It looks like the FAA Allows Lithium
>> batteries that are <=100 Watt Hour in your carry on bag, they are not
>> allowed in checked baggage.  A Dewalt 20v, 5ah battery is 100WH.  Has
>> anyone flown with batteries, do you have to do anything special in
>> screening or anything?
>>
>>  From this document
>>
>> https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf
>> It says that chargers are considered volatile, and must be treated as
>> batteries, I'm not sure why that would be.  According to the infographic
>> it seems that the battery can be in the checked bag if it's attached to
>> a tool?  That doesn't seem to make any sense.
>>
>> Nate
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] mac books

[Daniel White]

If you have an iPad and iPhone... it is very seemless for them to work 
together.


https://www.apple.com/macos/continuity/

I was a long time holdout on buying a Mac... got one finally last 
January and I'll never look back.  They are expensive, but the user 
experience, reliability, and design are great.


It is one of those things that users invest in, get used to, and don't 
want to change.  Be it PC or Mac, Android or Apple, Chevy vs. Ford, etc.


To answer the question though - you will never go wrong with more 
memory.  Hard drive can be augmented by flash drives, external hard 
drives, a NAS, etc.


Here is what I have, but I do movie editing, some graphic design, etc. 
on my laptop so I wanted to beef up some of the specs (I also look at 
these with a 5 year lifespan, as my wife usually gets my hand me downs):





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CBB - Jay Fuller wrote on 3/28/19 20:19:


I think he just likes apple. He's making good moneyi did share the 
refurb URL with him


Thanks :)

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Bill Prince" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] mac books
Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2019 5:11 PM

Wondering since he's in a school why he wouldn't be interested in a 
Chromebook. I've been using one of the new "mid range" Chromebooks now 
for a few months, and it honestly does everything I need.


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On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM CBB - Jay Fuller 
mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:


my nephew is having to replace his mac book.  a drink got spilt on
it.  not sure he's ever had to buy one as i'm pretty sure his
parents purchased it
for him while he was in school.  he's been teaching a while now.
he's wondering if he really needs 16 gig.  price difference is a
lot more - like $500-$600 more.
says he is looking at $1800 for 16 gb ram and 512 gb storage.
what does he need?
who has the best prices?
thanks. :)
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Re: [AFMUG] Flying with Lithium Batteries

[Daniel White]

Likewise, I've flown with cordless drills, drones, all sorts of Li-Ion 
batteries before.  So long as they are not larger than the 
recommendation put them in your carry on bag and the tools in the 
checked bags and you will be good.  They don't want Li-Ion batteries in 
the hold in case there is a cascade failure and they catch on fire.  In 
the cabin the thought it it can be extinguished.


They do make bags to put Li-Ion batteries in, in case they were to fail. 
They are not that expensive if you are worried at all.



Daniel White
Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
Facebook icon  LinkedIn icon 
 Youtbue icon 




Steve Utick wrote on 3/28/19 20:27:
I've flown numerous times in the last year with my cordless drill.   I 
put the drill itself in my checked bag and carry the battery for it in 
my carry on.  I usually put it in a plastic zip lock bag inside my 
checked bag.   Most of the time, flying out of our smaller airport, 
they will check out my bag by hand, but I've never had anyone even 
look twice at it when flying home out of larger airports.   Never had 
any issues with anyone questioning it at all, just our local airport 
is small and they seem bored and looking for things to do.   I've 
never taken a charger with me, never had that much to do that I'd need 
to charge my drill while I've been out.



On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:39 PM Nate Burke > wrote:


I'm going with a group of High School kids from Church to the Bahamas
this summer to do hurricane relief construction.  Has anyone flown
with
Drill batteries recently?  It looks like the FAA Allows Lithium
batteries that are <=100 Watt Hour in your carry on bag, they are not
allowed in checked baggage.  A Dewalt 20v, 5ah battery is 100WH.  Has
anyone flown with batteries, do you have to do anything special in
screening or anything?

 From this document

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

It says that chargers are considered volatile, and must be treated as
batteries, I'm not sure why that would be.  According to the
infographic
it seems that the battery can be in the checked bag if it's
attached to
a tool?  That doesn't seem to make any sense.

Nate

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Re: [AFMUG] mac books

[Ken Hohhof]

Store all your important files on MySpace!

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/18/18271023/myspace-music-videos-deleted-2003-2015-server-migration

 

For really important stuff, I guess I’d want cloud + local, or 2 clouds.

 

Most of our important customer info, config files, etc. are not huge, so 
something like Dropbox works well.  It syncs in the background between devices 
and the cloud when you are online, and you still have the local copy when you 
aren’t (like on your laptop in the middle of nowhere).

 

I guess we should also be worrying about ransomware, so an offline backup might 
be necessary for crucial data.

 

But the original thread about a regular end user.  Is it really viable to have 
all your documents in the cloud?  During an Internet outage will we all be like 
the droid army on Naboo, wandering around aimlessly after the control  ship is 
destroyed?

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 6:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mac books

 

Or do what the rest of the world is doing Cloud lol

 

We use Google drive for everything. Anything we store locally isn't important. 
No need to worry about backups or broken computers. Offline access is possible 
too which will update once you hit the internet again. 

 

I would never ever go back to local storage or local servers. It's not 
sustainable or reliable. 

 

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 9:54 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Start the Files tool, click on the 3 dots in the top right corner, and click 
"add a new service". SMB shares will be one of the many choices (NFS is in 
there too, not to mention a few others).




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On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:41 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

How?


On Mar 28, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

As of ChromeOS 72, you can access SMB (AKA CIFS) shares. Samba is built in.




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On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:28 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote:

How do you connect to a network share with a chrome book?

 

We’ve found they are pretty good for the office staff - but seem to fall apart 
when you’re trying to work with files. 


On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:19 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote:

 

I think he just likes apple.  He's making good moneyi did share the refurb 
URL with him

 

Thanks :)

 

Sent from my smartphone

 

- Reply message -
From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] mac books
Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2019 5:11 PM

 

Wondering since he's in a school why he wouldn't be interested in a Chromebook. 
I've been using one of the new "mid range" Chromebooks now for a few months, 
and it honestly does everything I need.




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On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM CBB - Jay Fuller mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net> > wrote:

 

my nephew is having to replace his mac book.  a drink got spilt on it.  not 
sure he's ever had to buy one as i'm pretty sure his parents purchased it

for him while he was in school.  he's been teaching a while now.

 

he's wondering if he really needs 16 gig.  price difference is a lot more - 
like $500-$600 more.

 

says he is looking at $1800 for 16 gb ram and 512 gb storage.

 

what does he need?

 

who has the best prices?

thanks. :)

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] mac books

[Darin Steffl]

Or do what the rest of the world is doing Cloud lol

We use Google drive for everything. Anything we store locally isn't
important. No need to worry about backups or broken computers. Offline
access is possible too which will update once you hit the internet again.

I would never ever go back to local storage or local servers. It's not
sustainable or reliable.


On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 9:54 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> Start the Files tool, click on the 3 dots in the top right corner, and
> click "add a new service". SMB shares will be one of the many choices (NFS
> is in there too, not to mention a few others).
>
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> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 6:41 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> How?
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 9:19 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>
>> As of ChromeOS 72, you can access SMB (AKA CIFS) shares. Samba is built
>> in.
>>
>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 5:28 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you connect to a network share with a chrome book?
>>>
>>> We’ve found they are pretty good for the office staff - but seem to fall
>>> apart when you’re trying to work with files.
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 8:19 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I think he just likes apple.  He's making good moneyi did share the
>>> refurb URL with him
>>>
>>> Thanks :)
>>>
>>> Sent from my smartphone
>>>
>>> - Reply message -
>>> From: "Bill Prince" 
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] mac books
>>> Date: Thu, Mar 28, 2019 5:11 PM
>>>
>>> Wondering since he's in a school why he wouldn't be interested in a
>>> Chromebook. I've been using one of the new "mid range" Chromebooks now for
>>> a few months, and it honestly does everything I need.
>>>
>>> --
>>> bp
>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>

 my nephew is having to replace his mac book.  a drink got spilt on it.
 not sure he's ever had to buy one as i'm pretty sure his parents purchased
 it
 for him while he was in school.  he's been teaching a while now.

 he's wondering if he really needs 16 gig.  price difference is a lot
 more - like $500-$600 more.

 says he is looking at $1800 for 16 gb ram and 512 gb storage.

 what does he need?

 who has the best prices?
 thanks. :)


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