Re: [AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

[Carl Peterson]

Do you have AC?  Want battery backup?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> What's the most cost effective way to power a single DC Cisco Switch like
> this?
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO-ME3400G-12CS-D-Ethernet-Access-Switch-12-ports-/361407262406?hash=item54258d2ec6:g:08kAAOSwLqFV7xS0
>
> Thanks!
>
> Keefe
>



-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

[AFMUG] LTE Speeds

[Matt]

Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1
gbps.  How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum?  I assume if
you are offering 50 mbps package in a sector its safe to assume at
prime time there are going to be at the very least 10 people using it
in that sector at the same time?  Also assume some have less then
perfect connections to the tower using more air time.

Re: [AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

[Cassidy B. Larson]

Just get an AC to DC adapter that does 48v.

Specs show:   -36 to -72 VDC, 2 to 1 A
 25 W (typical), 30 W (maximum),


> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:42 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 
> I have AC and UPS.  I just want to power this single switch.
> 
> On 11/12/2015 2:37 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>> Do you have AC?  Want battery backup?
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Keefe John > > wrote:
>> What's the most cost effective way to power a single DC Cisco Switch like 
>> this?
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO-ME3400G-12CS-D-Ethernet-Access-Switch-12-ports-/361407262406?hash=item54258d2ec6:g:08kAAOSwLqFV7xS0
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Keefe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Carl Peterson
>> PORT NETWORKS
>> 
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>> 
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>> 
>> (410) 637-3707
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-

LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?
50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?
Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without conduit?

TIA,
Scott

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics and 
running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the top.  I 
would suggest giving BT a call.

Josh

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any 
recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the 
first time?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Thx- but you can get multimode in 62.5 or 50, right?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 13:00
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

LC is probably 99.99% of SFP.  It's 100% of two strands.

The sizing is single/multi mode.

Personally I've only done armored on towers - from the radio station building 
or whatever, under the ice bridge and straight up the tower.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-

LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?
50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?
Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without conduit?

TIA,
Scott

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics and 
running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the top.  I 
would suggest giving BT a call.

Josh

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any 
recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the 
first time?

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Brett A Mansfield]

Netonix! I love these switches!

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not 
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>  
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port. 
> Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Peter Kranz]

For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible. 62.5 is 
being phased out.

 

Peter Kranz
  www.UnwiredLtd.com
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
  pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

[Adam Moffett]

"Eventually 1gbps" is going to be using channel aggregation100mhz 
not 20mhz.



On 11/12/2015 4:47 PM, Matt wrote:

Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1
gbps.  How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum?  I assume if
you are offering 50 mbps package in a sector its safe to assume at
prime time there are going to be at the very least 10 people using it
in that sector at the same time?  Also assume some have less then
perfect connections to the tower using more air time.

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

[Joseph Marsh]

Will be later tomorrow it's 30 miles away in a restaurant  in a travel center 

-Original Message-
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 7:03 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

Screenshot?


I did mine on 2.4.  Called it like second-SSID.  Seems just fine to me.




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Joseph Marsh  wrote:

Tring to add additional  wlans but will not let me add  additional wlans says 
invalid I'd

I upgraded it to use cn maestro as well 


From: Josh Luthman
Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid


I just did it on mine, doesn't seem to be a problem.  What are you doing 
exactly that doesn't work?




Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Joseph Marsh  wrote:

I think it the same  


From: Josh Luthman
Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid


Which model?  I just got my r201.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 11, 2015 3:57 PM, "Joseph Marsh"  wrote:

Is anyone using this hotspot  yet ? 

We can't get no more than one said to work

[AFMUG] Hardened switch

[chuck]

Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not have 
environmental controls over perhaps a fan.

Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.  
Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Carl Peterson]

TE has a new fiber/DC power cable that looks kind of like a lamp cord.
http://www.te.com/usa-en/products/fiber-optics/hybrid-copper-fiber-products.html?tab=pgp-story

It would be easy enough to make breakout cables for the topside or for
someone to make pre terminated assemblies.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics
> and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the
> top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.
>
> Josh
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
>> Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any
>> recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the
>> first time?
>>
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] DC Power for Cisco Switch

[Keefe John]

I have AC and UPS.  I just want to power this single switch.

On 11/12/2015 2:37 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

Do you have AC?  Want battery backup?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Keefe John > wrote:


What's the most cost effective way to power a single DC Cisco
Switch like this?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO-ME3400G-12CS-D-Ethernet-Access-Switch-12-ports-/361407262406?hash=item54258d2ec6:g:08kAAOSwLqFV7xS0

Thanks!

Keefe




--

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Josh Luthman]

POE for radio or simple 100 meg/gigabit ports?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:57 PM,  wrote:

> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
> Suggestions?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Josh Luthman]

LC is probably 99.99% of SFP.  It's 100% of two strands.

The sizing is single/multi mode.

Personally I've only done armored on towers - from the radio station
building or whatever, under the ice bridge and straight up the tower.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-
>
>
>
> LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?
>
> 50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?
>
> Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without
> conduit?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower
>
>
>
> We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics
> and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the
> top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any
> recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the
> first time?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Lewis Bergman]

Planet has some as well. We had a bunch of them. Netonix wasn't around then
so I don't know how they compare. Does Netonix have ERPS  G.8032?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:02 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> The Moto/Cambium CMM4 has an Etherwan switch.� Never had a problem with
> that outdoors, but I'm not sure it can rate limit.
>
>
> On 11/12/2015 3:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>
> �
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.�
> Suggestions?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Josh Luthman]

Honestly couldn't tell you.  There's a handful of sites that detail what
sizes do which mode.  I believe the wavelengths are one or the other as
well.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 4:04 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"  wrote:

> Thx- but you can get multimode in 62.5 or 50, right?
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 13:00
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower
>
>
>
> LC is probably 99.99% of SFP.  It's 100% of two strands.
>
>
>
> The sizing is single/multi mode.
>
>
>
> Personally I've only done armored on towers - from the radio station
> building or whatever, under the ice bridge and straight up the tower.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-
>
>
>
> LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?
>
> 50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?
>
> Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without
> conduit?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower
>
>
>
> We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics
> and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the
> top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any
> recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the
> first time?
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Jaime Solorza]

Moxa

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 12, 2015 2:05 PM, "Lewis Bergman"  wrote:

> Planet has some as well. We had a bunch of them. Netonix wasn't around
> then so I don't know how they compare. Does Netonix have ERPS  G.8032?
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:02 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> The Moto/Cambium CMM4 has an Etherwan switch.� Never had a problem with
>> that outdoors, but I'm not sure it can rate limit.
>>
>>
>> On 11/12/2015 3:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
>> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>>
>> �
>> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.�
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

[Stefan Englhardt]

It just can't do it. For sure the LTE gear carriers are using is very good but 
they can't do miracles. They praise the sector capacity as user speed. This gig 
speed lab tests aggregate channels. 

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: Matt  
Datum: 12.11.2015  22:47  (GMT+01:00) 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds 

Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1
gbps.  How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum?  I assume if
you are offering 50 mbps package in a sector its safe to assume at
prime time there are going to be at the very least 10 people using it
in that sector at the same time?  Also assume some have less then
perfect connections to the tower using more air time.

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Paul Stewart]

Did you get any responses as I'm curious?  We have quite a bit of OpenVZ 
running and wondering about migration to LXC as well...

Thanks,
Paul



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if for few 
years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz is light weight 
and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox 4.x they have introduced 
the ZFS file system which I think is a great offering many features such as 
mirroring etc.  They have also switched from Openvz to LXC for containers.  
Anyone used LXC much?  Is it stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Cassidy B. Larson]

Netonix. We have numerous in outdoor enclosures that all survived the heat of 
southern Utah this past summer.

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not 
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
> 
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
> Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Sean Heskett]

planet IGSW-24040T is what we use at many towers.

has 4 SFP ports and 24 copper ports.  it can also do throttling like you
need.

~$500

-sean




On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM,  wrote:

> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
> Suggestions?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Craig House]

Netonix. Maybe not hardened but I have not had one fail yet due to heat in a 
unvented tower box. Data rate limits per port are easy and they are very 
reasonable. 

Craig 


- Original Message -

From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:57:49 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Hardened switch 

Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not have 
environmental controls over perhaps a fan. 
Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port. 
Suggestions? 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Adam Moffett]

I think some people are doing that.  I didn't like the idea of 
terminations at the top.  Ask the tower guy when there's a problem would 
he rather try to do a termination on the tower or just pull a new cable 
up.  I can probably guess the answer :)


If you're putting an interconnect box at the top I imagine you'll set up 
the box ahead of time and lift up the cable and box at the same time and 
you'll terminate spare fibers so if there's a problem you switch to one 
of your spares.  If a squirrel eats your fiber cable you'll have to 
replace the whole assembly.



On 11/12/2015 2:31 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:


Oh, so you’re brining this fiber from the tower base directly into the 
radio?  I had figured the fiber would go from base to a fiber 
termination box up on the tower, and then patch cables out to the 
various radios.


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:27
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

I've been ordering the attached assembly (in various lengths) from 
Fiber Instrument Sales.


That cable is "core locked" so basically the fibers are buried in 
plastic.  I had to specially request the 6" breakoutbreakout kits 
are normally a few feet long.


Even with the short breakout, we're finding we have to extend the 
cable gland with a short piece of conduit.  Trango is a 3/4 pipe 
thread, so we can get the parts at the hardware store.  Telrad was an 
M25 so that required a special order M25 to 3/4 adapter.


On 11/12/2015 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls,
any recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the
job right the first time?

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

[Josh Luthman]

Cnmaestro would have the text config.  You can load it on another unit.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 3:18 PM, "Joseph Marsh"  wrote:

> Will be later tomorrow it's 30 miles away in a restaurant  in a travel
> center
> --
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 7:03 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid
>
> Screenshot?
>
> I did mine on 2.4.  Called it like second-SSID.  Seems just fine to me.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Joseph Marsh 
> wrote:
>
>> Tring to add additional  wlans but will not let me add  additional wlans
>> says invalid I'd
>>
>> I upgraded it to use cn maestro as well
>> --
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:58 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid
>>
>> I just did it on mine, doesn't seem to be a problem.  What are you doing
>> exactly that doesn't work?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Joseph Marsh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it the same
>>> --
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:07 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid
>>>
>>> Which model?  I just got my r201.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Nov 11, 2015 3:57 PM, "Joseph Marsh"  wrote:
>>>
 Is anyone using this hotspot  yet ?

 We can't get no more than one said to work

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Adam Moffett]

The Moto/Cambium CMM4 has an Etherwan switch.  Never had a problem with 
that outdoors, but I'm not sure it can rate limit.


On 11/12/2015 3:57 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will 
not have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.

Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

[David]

That is something I am trying out now..


On 11/12/2015 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Cnmaestro would have the text config.  You can load it on another unit.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 12, 2015 3:18 PM, "Joseph Marsh" > wrote:


Will be later tomorrow it's 30 miles away in a restaurant  in a
travel center

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 7:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

Screenshot?

I did mine on 2.4.  Called it like second-SSID. Seems just fine to me.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Joseph Marsh
> wrote:

Tring to add additional  wlans but will not let me add 
additional wlans says invalid I'd


I upgraded it to use cn maestro as well

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

I just did it on mine, doesn't seem to be a problem.  What are
you doing exactly that doesn't work?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Joseph Marsh
> wrote:

I think it the same


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

Which model?  I just got my r201.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Nov 11, 2015 3:57 PM, "Joseph Marsh"
>
wrote:

Is anyone using this hotspot yet ?

We can't get no more than one said to work

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

[Dan Petermann]

LTE can be set for equal time or equal rate. Equal rate will drag down the 
thruput of all users. 

Equal time will only impact the user with a poor signal. If everyones signal is 
great and one users radio signal is bad, that user only gets the thruput that 
can be crammed into his timeslot because his modulation is low. Everyone else 
continues as normal.

At least that is my understanding.


On Nov 12, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> any system with 20mhz channels + two chains + 256QAM can claim 100mbps.
> Getting past that is going to be carrier aggregation (bigger channels) and 
> MU-MIMO.
> 
> 5x20mhz channels aggregated = 500mbps.
> 
> MU-MIMO can theoretically double capacity.  So there's your 1gig.
> I'm not clear on how far you can count on MU-MIMO.  In theory it sounds 
> promising.
> 
> and yes, one person at MIMO-A QPSK is going eat up many times the 
> capacity of a person at 256QAM MIMO-B no matter what wireless system you're 
> using.  The best defense against that will be don't install bad connections.  
> Nothing new there.
> 
> If you're going to use 100mhz, you could of course install 5 AP's of your 
> choice and claim you have a 500mbps system.
> 
> On 11/12/2015 4:47 PM, Matt wrote:
>> Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1
>> gbps.  How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum?  I assume if
>> you are offering 50 mbps package in a sector its safe to assume at
>> prime time there are going to be at the very least 10 people using it
>> in that sector at the same time?  Also assume some have less then
>> perfect connections to the tower using more air time.
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Josh Reynolds]

Wasn't there a radio just released that only supported multimode
somehow? Maybe mimosa?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> Use neither, 1000BaseLX SFPs are $16 a piece. Do 1310nm on singlemode up a
> tower. Any serious fiber contractor or FTTA installer will laugh at the idea
> of outside plant multimode.
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 1:50 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:
>>
>> For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible. 62.5
>> is being phased out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Kranz
>> www.UnwiredLtd.com
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
>> Mobile: 510-207-
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Eric Kuhnke]

Do SC/UPC duplex bulkhead connectors in your tower top box, for example if
running 24 strands up a tower. Use SC to LC jumper cables in liquid tight
conduit. LC for the radio end of course.

One corning CCH panel is good for twelve strands of SC connectors. There
are tiny enclosures for the cch intended for wall mount. They mount on
nema4x enclosure aluminium back plates just fine.
On Nov 12, 2015 12:56 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"  wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-
>
>
>
> LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?
>
> 50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?
>
> Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without
> conduit?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower
>
>
>
> We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics
> and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the
> top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:
>
> Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any
> recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the
> first time?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

[Eric Kuhnke]

I see two separate emails.
On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates?
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> > Hello? Test? 1 2 3?
> >
> > :)
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Jaime Solorza]

Communists

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM,  wrote:

> Two votes for Netonix.  Thanks, I will look into them.
>
> *From:* Brett A Mansfield 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch
>
> Netonix! I love these switches!
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:
>
> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
> Suggestions?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Eric Kuhnke]

Use neither, 1000BaseLX SFPs are $16 a piece. Do 1310nm on singlemode up a
tower. Any serious fiber contractor or FTTA installer will laugh at the
idea of outside plant multimode.
On Nov 12, 2015 1:50 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:

> For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible. 62.5
> is being phased out.
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Josh Baird]

We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics
and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the
top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.

Josh

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
wrote:

> Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any
> recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the
> first time?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Adam Moffett]

I think LC might be the only option small enough for an SFP. The point 
of LC was to get the fiber interface footprint as small as an RJ45.


50/125 is multimode which yes would be 850nm.

On 11/12/2015 3:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:


Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-

LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?

50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?

Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without 
conduit?


TIA,

Scott

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from 
Best-Tronics and running it from a router at the base of the tower to 
a switch at the top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.


Josh

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
> wrote:


Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls,
any recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the
job right the first time?

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[chuck]

POE is not required at this time but may be a requirement at some point.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

POE for radio or simple 100 meg/gigabit ports?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:57 PM,  wrote:

  Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not 
have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.

  Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.  
  Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[chuck]

Two votes for Netonix.  Thanks, I will look into them.  

From: Brett A Mansfield 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

Netonix! I love these switches!

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield

On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:


  Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not 
have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.

  Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.  
  Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Haha looks like all of us are in the same boat Everybody looking at Everybody 
else to see if somebody has any input. I have it on my to do list to do some 
testing because we use proxmox ourselves quite a bit but I'm very unlikely to 
get to it for another few weeks.


Regards

Faisal

Sent from Mobile Device

 Original message From: Paul Stewart 
 Date:11/12/2015  4:13 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox 
virtualization 
Did you get any responses as I'm curious?  We have quite a bit of OpenVZ 
running and wondering about migration to LXC as well...

Thanks,
Paul



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if for few 
years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz is light weight 
and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox 4.x they have introduced 
the ZFS file system which I think is a great offering many features such as 
mirroring etc.  They have also switched from Openvz to LXC for containers.  
Anyone used LXC much?  Is it stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?

Re: [AFMUG] LTE Speeds

[Adam Moffett]

any system with 20mhz channels + two chains + 256QAM can claim 100mbps.
Getting past that is going to be carrier aggregation (bigger channels) 
and MU-MIMO.


5x20mhz channels aggregated = 500mbps.

MU-MIMO can theoretically double capacity.  So there's your 1gig.
I'm not clear on how far you can count on MU-MIMO.  In theory it sounds 
promising.


and yes, one person at MIMO-A QPSK is going eat up many times the 
capacity of a person at 256QAM MIMO-B no matter what wireless system 
you're using.  The best defense against that will be don't install bad 
connections.  Nothing new there.


If you're going to use 100mhz, you could of course install 5 AP's of 
your choice and claim you have a 500mbps system.


On 11/12/2015 4:47 PM, Matt wrote:

Hear talk of these 50 - 100+ mbps speeds per user and eventually 1
gbps.  How can LTE do that in 10 to 20 mhz of spectrum?  I assume if
you are offering 50 mbps package in a sector its safe to assume at
prime time there are going to be at the very least 10 people using it
in that sector at the same time?  Also assume some have less then
perfect connections to the tower using more air time.

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Josh Luthman]

Lol!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 1:07 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> But at least you won't need to worry about forwarding it to anyone.
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM, James Howard  wrote:
>
>> You’ll get a dmca notice……
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:42 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] dmca email
>>
>>
>>
>> Link?  :P
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2015 12:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a
>> popular title BTW
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don't think so, but not sure.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> swip, thats it
>>
>>
>>
>> Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact
>> whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a
>> subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN
>> account?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>> You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less
>> than a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can
>> reassign a single IP, probably yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are
>> deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?
>>
>>
>>
>> Google something like swip + reassign.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dmca email
>>
>>
>>
>> Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
>> customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
>> part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> --
>>
>> *Total Control Panel*
>>
>> Login 
>>
>> To: ja...@litewire.net
>> 
>>
>> From:
>> 0150fcca5449-d1ccea3c-9347-43b8-a41a-9291469fba70-000...@amazonses.com
>>
>> Remove
>> 
>> amazonses.com from my allow list
>>
>> *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com
>>  is on your allow list.*
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Eric Kuhnke]

Openvz is really more like a chroot jail. You can accomplish much better
functionality and the ability to run a wider range of guest VMs with xen or
kvm.

Keep in mind with openvz all guest OS must run the same kernel as the host.

Unless you need openvz for a hosting environment that will have hundreds of
small VMs on a server with 128GB RAM?
On Nov 11, 2015 3:58 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

> Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if
> for few years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz
> is light weight and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox
> 4.x they have introduced the ZFS file system which I think is a great
> offering many features such as mirroring etc.  They have also switched
> from Openvz to LXC for containers.  Anyone used LXC much?  Is it
> stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?
>

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

[Josh Reynolds]

Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing
another. What the heck?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> I see two separate emails.
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello? Test? 1 2 3?
>> >
>> > :)

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

[Eric Muehleisen]

I believe the very latest LMG CTM2 hardware revision will allow for
PTP600. None of my CTM2's have this capabiliy, even with latest
software.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
> Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ?
>
>
>
> Any downside?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Eric Kuhnke]

Well. I do have one set of gigabeam 1.25 Gbps 80 GHz radios that are
multimode. However their design was finalized in 2006, by modern standards
they are ancient. Company is defunct.
On Nov 12, 2015 5:02 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> Wasn't there a radio just released that only supported multimode
> somehow? Maybe mimosa?
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
> > Use neither, 1000BaseLX SFPs are $16 a piece. Do 1310nm on singlemode up
> a
> > tower. Any serious fiber contractor or FTTA installer will laugh at the
> idea
> > of outside plant multimode.
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2015 1:50 PM, "Peter Kranz"  wrote:
> >>
> >> For any new builds you should use 50um since it is 10-Gig compatible.
> 62.5
> >> is being phased out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter Kranz
> >> www.UnwiredLtd.com
> >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> >> Mobile: 510-207-
> >> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Josh Reynolds]

The can be significant performance gains in both memory reduction and
IO by using OpenVZ though. It just depends on your needs and
environment.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> Openvz is really more like a chroot jail. You can accomplish much better
> functionality and the ability to run a wider range of guest VMs with xen or
> kvm.
>
> Keep in mind with openvz all guest OS must run the same kernel as the host.
>
> Unless you need openvz for a hosting environment that will have hundreds of
> small VMs on a server with 128GB RAM?
>
> On Nov 11, 2015 3:58 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>>
>> Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if
>> for few years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz
>> is light weight and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox
>> 4.x they have introduced the ZFS file system which I think is a great
>> offering many features such as mirroring etc.  They have also switched
>> from Openvz to LXC for containers.  Anyone used LXC much?  Is it
>> stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

[Jaime Solorza]

Hola

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 12, 2015 5:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates?
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> > Hello? Test? 1 2 3?
> >
> > :)
>

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

[Josh Luthman]

A backup and restore?  Such wizardry!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:32 PM, David  wrote:

> That is something I am trying out now..
>
>
> On 11/12/2015 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Cnmaestro would have the text config.  You can load it on another unit.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Nov 12, 2015 3:18 PM, "Joseph Marsh"  wrote:
>
>> Will be later tomorrow it's 30 miles away in a restaurant  in a travel
>> center
>> --
>> From: Josh Luthman 
>> Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 7:03 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid
>>
>> Screenshot?
>>
>> I did mine on 2.4.  Called it like second-SSID.  Seems just fine to me.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Joseph Marsh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tring to add additional  wlans but will not let me add  additional wlans
>>> says invalid I'd
>>>
>>> I upgraded it to use cn maestro as well
>>> --
>>> From: Josh Luthman 
>>> Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:58 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid
>>>
>>> I just did it on mine, doesn't seem to be a problem.  What are you doing
>>> exactly that doesn't work?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Joseph Marsh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think it the same
 --
 From: Josh Luthman 
 Sent: ‎11/‎11/‎2015 3:07 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp hotspot ssid

 Which model?  I just got my r201.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Nov 11, 2015 3:57 PM, "Joseph Marsh"  wrote:

> Is anyone using this hotspot  yet ?
>
> We can't get no more than one said to work
>

>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Work]

The UBNT 16port edgepoint switch is said to have a SFP plus port on it but no 
MSRP even on that yet



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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Honestly couldn't tell you.  There's a handful of sites that detail what
> sizes do which mode.  I believe the wavelengths are one or the other as
> well.
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Nov 12, 2015 4:04 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"  wrote:
>> Thx- but you can get multimode in 62.5 or 50, right?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 13:00
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower
>>
>>
>>
>> LC is probably 99.99% of SFP.  It's 100% of two strands.
>>
>>
>>
>> The sizing is single/multi mode.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally I've only done armored on towers - from the radio station
>> building or whatever, under the ice bridge and straight up the tower.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback, few more noob questions-
>>
>>
>>
>> LC connectors are the best choice for use with SFP modules?
>>
>> 50/125um for better distance with 850nm lasers?
>>
>> Loose tube flooded and armored is best choice for tower riser without
>> conduit?
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:19
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower
>>
>>
>>
>> We are ordering pre-terminated armored CommScope fiber from Best-Tronics
>> and running it from a router at the base of the tower to a switch at the
>> top.  I would suggest giving BT a call.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any
>> recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the
>> first time?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Eric Muehleisen]

Cisco has a very broad operating temperature range. Never had a single
issue in our non-enviro cabinets. Not a cheap alternative.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:57 PM,   wrote:
> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>
> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
> Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X

[Jaime Solorza]

Nice.. How long is this link?

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 11, 2015 11:30 PM, "Stefan Englhardt"  wrote:

> Did my first AF5X link now. Replacing a Mikrotik 11n connection from a site
>
> where I have eaten up all spectrum to a smaller tower.
>
> It squeezes a stable 185MBit/82Mbit connection out of a 30mhz channel.
>
> 1-2ms latency. Very impressive radio. Configuration is a bit rude as slave
> do not
>
> follow master settings.
>
>
>
> We move from MT to synced ePMP there to get some spectrum back and replace
>
> a second link with synced AF5X. Tower is feeded 18GHz licensed.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AF5X

[Stefan Englhardt]

Quite short 3km with 7 db loss due to obstructed fresnel.





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Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Jaime Solorza
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 11:41
An: Animal Farm 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF5X



Nice.. How long is this link?

Jaime Solorza

On Nov 11, 2015 11:30 PM, "Stefan Englhardt"  > wrote:

Did my first AF5X link now. Replacing a Mikrotik 11n connection from a site

where I have eaten up all spectrum to a smaller tower.

It squeezes a stable 185MBit/82Mbit connection out of a 30mhz channel.

1-2ms latency. Very impressive radio. Configuration is a bit rude as slave do 
not

follow master settings.



We move from MT to synced ePMP there to get some spectrum back and replace

a second link with synced AF5X. Tower is feeded 18GHz licensed.

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Jaime Solorza]

Actually. We got 4 of the 5 and 2 of 8 port Netonix for Sonic Ranch

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 12, 2015 6:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Communists
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Two votes for Netonix.  Thanks, I will look into them.
>>
>> *From:* Brett A Mansfield 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch
>>
>> Netonix! I love these switches!
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:
>>
>> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
>> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>>
>> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
>> Suggestions?
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Bill Prince]

You could also do what Apple is doing. There was an announcement a 
couple weeks ago that they are dumping VMware, and going with KVM.


Trying to see what that might entail for us, but there's a learning curve.

bp


On 11/12/2015 1:13 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

Did you get any responses as I'm curious?  We have quite a bit of OpenVZ 
running and wondering about migration to LXC as well...

Thanks,
Paul



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if for few 
years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz is light weight 
and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox 4.x they have introduced 
the ZFS file system which I think is a great offering many features such as 
mirroring etc.  They have also switched from Openvz to LXC for containers.  
Anyone used LXC much?  Is it stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Josh Reynolds]

You're talking about specialized mid-higher end hardware. That said,
those drivers should be backported to that 2.6.32 kernel.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> The gains are insignificant with an openvz jail environment compared to a
> paravirtualized (PV, not HVM) Xen environment. With OpenVZ in its current
> incarnation you are stuck running a 2.6.32 series ancient kernel which
> significantly reduces support for high performance I/O devices such as the
> latest 10GbE PCI-Express 3.0 NICs, which are now as cheap as $200 a piece.
> Also nonexistant support for high performance 1500-2000MB/s storage devices
> such as M.2 format PCI Express SSDs (Samsung, Intel) and support for the
> motherboard firmwares that enable booting from M.2.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>>
>> The can be significant performance gains in both memory reduction and
>> IO by using OpenVZ though. It just depends on your needs and
>> environment.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
>> wrote:
>> > Openvz is really more like a chroot jail. You can accomplish much better
>> > functionality and the ability to run a wider range of guest VMs with xen
>> > or
>> > kvm.
>> >
>> > Keep in mind with openvz all guest OS must run the same kernel as the
>> > host.
>> >
>> > Unless you need openvz for a hosting environment that will have hundreds
>> > of
>> > small VMs on a server with 128GB RAM?
>> >
>> > On Nov 11, 2015 3:58 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if
>> >> for few years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz
>> >> is light weight and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox
>> >> 4.x they have introduced the ZFS file system which I think is a great
>> >> offering many features such as mirroring etc.  They have also switched
>> >> from Openvz to LXC for containers.  Anyone used LXC much?  Is it
>> >> stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

[Josh Reynolds]

test

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
> Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing
> another. What the heck?
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>> I see two separate emails.
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>>
>>> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello? Test? 1 2 3?
>>> >
>>> > :)

Re: [AFMUG] GCI, and Alaska Cable provider, shows up in the Missouri 477 as providing service?

[Jaime Solorza]

Interesting.. There is a company called Global Precision Services which
opened up here a few weeks ago from Anchorage... Wonder if they are part of
same group.  Building is an old data farm outfit...

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 12, 2015 8:11 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> I haven't checked any other states yet, but GCI shows up as providing
> service to most (if not all, haven't checked) of the state of
> Missouri?
>
> If you look, they claim 0Mbps down and 0Mbps up, but claim "business
> service" with a tech code that means "satellite". AFAIK, GCI does not
> own any satellites.
>
> How the hell are they able to claim service in Missouri? Is there some
> way this might allow them to receive funding to provide service in
> these areas? WTF?
>
> Thanks
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Daniel Gerlach]

Netonix +1

2015-11-13 3:12 GMT+01:00 Jaime Solorza :
> Actually. We got 4 of the 5 and 2 of 8 port Netonix for Sonic Ranch
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 6:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>>
>> Communists
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Two votes for Netonix.  Thanks, I will look into them.
>>>
>>> From: Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch
>>>
>>> Netonix! I love these switches!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:
>>>
>>> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that will not
>>> have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>>>
>>> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
>>> Suggestions?

Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

[Stefan Englhardt]

Netonix WS-6-Mini. They have an outdoor-Enclosure with outlets at the bottom. 
Very reliable, fast and a very good user interface. Very easy to configure 
vlans. You can power them with another netonix, Mimosa/AF Power plug.


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Daniel Gerlach
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. November 2015 07:26
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch

Netonix +1

2015-11-13 3:12 GMT+01:00 Jaime Solorza :
> Actually. We got 4 of the 5 and 2 of 8 port Netonix for Sonic Ranch
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 6:29 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
>>
>> Communists
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2015 2:28 PM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Two votes for Netonix.  Thanks, I will look into them.
>>>
>>> From: Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:02 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hardened switch
>>>
>>> Netonix! I love these switches!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:57 PM,   wrote:
>>>
>>> Need a hardened switch for mounting in an outdoor enclosure that
>>> will not have environmental controls over perhaps a fan.
>>>
>>> Need to be able to rate limit/throttle the mbps for each port.
>>> Suggestions?

[AFMUG] GCI, and Alaska Cable provider, shows up in the Missouri 477 as providing service?

[Josh Reynolds]

I haven't checked any other states yet, but GCI shows up as providing
service to most (if not all, haven't checked) of the state of
Missouri?

If you look, they claim 0Mbps down and 0Mbps up, but claim "business
service" with a tech code that means "satellite". AFAIK, GCI does not
own any satellites.

How the hell are they able to claim service in Missouri? Is there some
way this might allow them to receive funding to provide service in
these areas? WTF?

Thanks

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

[Paul McCall]

Not seeing anything like that Josh.  Everything looks normal.  Amazon doesn't 
"do" anything except allow (or not) the mail to pass

-Paul

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 8:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TEST

Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing another. What 
the heck?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> I see two separate emails.
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
>>
>> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello? Test? 1 2 3?
>> >
>> > :)

[AFMUG] Used WISP Gear / New Gear - Make offer off list.

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Cleaning up shelves again. making more room for 3.65 gear:

 

40- 2.4 Canopy SM's available - all used running 13.4 (Used)

10- 5.7 UBNT Rocket M5 Radio's - no dish / running 5.6 (Used)

3- 5.7/5.4 Canopy PTP 230 Links (complete)

4- Sixnet 9-Port Din rail switches (slx-9es-2sc)

 

35 KP Performance J-Arms - no dish (brand new)

2 Boxes ePMP dishes - no radios (brand new)

 

 

No reasonable offer refused.  Off list please.

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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Re: [AFMUG] EOIP with IPSEC throughput cut in haf

[Stefan Englhardt]

With eoip 1500 byte packets have to be fragmented.

You should consider MPLS/VPLS.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Moffett
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 15:33
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP with IPSEC throughput cut in haf



Watch the statistics on the interface list.is it moving 60mbps on the wire 
while the speedtest is running 30mbps?

Also, are you hitting 100% CPU on either end of the tunnel?  The speed test is 
CPU heavy, and so is the tunnel.

On 11/11/2015 11:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

So dicking around with EOIP. for the most part we dont really need to have 
security on these tunnels if theyre used for transit only



Is this to be expected?



Im set up with EOIP tunnel between port5 on two 951G-2HnD with a redundancy 
through an old RB750 and routing out through an old RB750 running OSPF



The gateway RB750 is connected to port5 on the "remote" 951G-2HnD so its 
basically a tunnel from my laptop to the gateway. the second RB750 isnt in play 
right now because the OSPF cost through it is higher



Laptop---951G-2HnD-951G-2HnD---RB750-interwebs



Testing to the local speedtest server without ipsec i see around 60mbps on my 
cable connection when i turn it on it goes to 30mbps




--

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP with IPSEC throughput cut in haf

[Adam Moffett]

Watch the statistics on the interface list.is it moving 60mbps on 
the wire while the speedtest is running 30mbps?


Also, are you hitting 100% CPU on either end of the tunnel?  The speed 
test is CPU heavy, and so is the tunnel.


On 11/11/2015 11:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
So dicking around with EOIP. for the most part we dont really need to 
have security on these tunnels if theyre used for transit only


Is this to be expected?

Im set up with EOIP tunnel between port5 on two 951G-2HnD with a 
redundancy through an old RB750 and routing out through an old RB750 
running OSPF


The gateway RB750 is connected to port5 on the "remote" 951G-2HnD so 
its basically a tunnel from my laptop to the gateway. the second RB750 
isnt in play right now because the OSPF cost through it is higher


Laptop---951G-2HnD-951G-2HnD---RB750-interwebs

Testing to the local speedtest server without ipsec i see around 
60mbps on my cable connection when i turn it on it goes to 30mbps


--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any 
recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the 
first time?

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

[Paul McCall]

I seem to recall someone using something else, but don’t recall the details.

H….

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

You need the PIDU as far as I know.

Josh

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Paul McCall 
> wrote:
Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ?

Any downside?

Paul

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

[Josh Luthman]

PIDU does DC input, take it off the CMM?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> I seem to recall someone using something else, but don’t recall the
> details.
>
>
>
> H….
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:42 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices
>
>
>
> You need the PIDU as far as I know.
>
>
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
> Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ?
>
>
>
> Any downside?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Oh, so you’re brining this fiber from the tower base directly into the radio?  
I had figured the fiber would go from base to a fiber termination box up on the 
tower, and then patch cables out to the various radios.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:27
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

I've been ordering the attached assembly (in various lengths) from Fiber 
Instrument Sales.

That cable is "core locked" so basically the fibers are buried in plastic.  I 
had to specially request the 6" breakoutbreakout kits are normally a few 
feet long.

Even with the short breakout, we're finding we have to extend the cable gland 
with a short piece of conduit.  Trango is a 3/4 pipe thread, so we can get the 
parts at the hardware store.  Telrad was an M25 so that required a special 
order M25 to 3/4 adapter.

On 11/12/2015 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any 
recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the 
first time?

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

[Scott Vander Dussen]

Thanksgiving turkey already on my mind..  *bringing not brining!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Scott Vander Dussen
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:32
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

Oh, so you’re brining this fiber from the tower base directly into the radio?  
I had figured the fiber would go from base to a fiber termination box up on the 
tower, and then patch cables out to the various radios.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:27
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up a tower

I've been ordering the attached assembly (in various lengths) from Fiber 
Instrument Sales.

That cable is "core locked" so basically the fibers are buried in plastic.  I 
had to specially request the 6" breakoutbreakout kits are normally a few 
feet long.

Even with the short breakout, we're finding we have to extend the cable gland 
with a short piece of conduit.  Trango is a 3/4 pipe thread, so we can get the 
parts at the hardware store.  Telrad was an M25 so that required a special 
order M25 to 3/4 adapter.
On 11/12/2015 2:13 PM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:
Wanting to upgrade several towers with fiber up to the backhauls, any 
recommendations for specific product or procedures to do the job right the 
first time?

Re: [AFMUG] TEST

[Jaime Solorza]

I copy

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 12, 2015 8:15 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> test
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
> > Yeah, like amazon is doing one, and the "list" itself is doing
> > another. What the heck?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
> >> I see two separate emails.
> >>
> >> On Nov 12, 2015 4:19 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> erm, is anybody else seeing duplicates?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hello? Test? 1 2 3?
> >>> >
> >>> > :)
>

Re: [AFMUG] Proxmox virtualization

[Eric Kuhnke]

The gains are insignificant with an openvz jail environment compared to a
paravirtualized (PV, *not* HVM) Xen environment. With OpenVZ in its current
incarnation you are stuck running a 2.6.32 series ancient kernel which
significantly reduces support for high performance I/O devices such as the
latest 10GbE PCI-Express 3.0 NICs, which are now as cheap as $200 a piece.
Also nonexistant support for high performance 1500-2000MB/s storage devices
such as M.2 format PCI Express SSDs (Samsung, Intel) and support for the
motherboard firmwares that enable booting from M.2.



On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> The can be significant performance gains in both memory reduction and
> IO by using OpenVZ though. It just depends on your needs and
> environment.
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
> > Openvz is really more like a chroot jail. You can accomplish much better
> > functionality and the ability to run a wider range of guest VMs with xen
> or
> > kvm.
> >
> > Keep in mind with openvz all guest OS must run the same kernel as the
> host.
> >
> > Unless you need openvz for a hosting environment that will have hundreds
> of
> > small VMs on a server with 128GB RAM?
> >
> > On Nov 11, 2015 3:58 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone out there using Proxmox for virtualization?  Have been using if
> >> for few years running Centos Openvz containers.  Like fact that Openvz
> >> is light weight and gives very little performance penalty.  In Proxmox
> >> 4.x they have introduced the ZFS file system which I think is a great
> >> offering many features such as mirroring etc.  They have also switched
> >> from Openvz to LXC for containers.  Anyone used LXC much?  Is it
> >> stable?  Pros and cons vs Openvz?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Chuck McCown]

I need 1G full duplex.  

From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Beta Units have been shipped


Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.


Regards


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

  Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.

   Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
  Von: Faisal Imtiaz  
  Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00) 
  An: af@afmug.com 
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Stefan Englhardt]

Not at this price tag.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Moffett
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 16:49
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP



I think any manufacturer has 1G FD as long as you're ok with 2+0



On 11/12/2015 10:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I need 1G full duplex.



From: Faisal Imtiaz 

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:20 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP



Beta Units have been shipped



Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.



Regards



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





  _


From: "Stefan Englhardt"   
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: Faisal Imtiaz   
Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[AFMUG] JAB + LTE = RISE

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

I wonder if they're going to be rolling with Telrad?


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Radizeski 
To: FISPA Members List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:35 AM
Subject: [FISPA Members] JAB + LTE = RISE


Rise Broadband, the company formerly known as JAB Broadband that is 
playing the role of broadband wireless consolidator, said yesterday that 
it plans to deploy fixed broadband wireless equipment based on LTE, 
beginning initially in the Joplin, Missouri area.

http://www.telecompetitor.com/rise-broadband-aims-for-50-mbps-broadband-with-lte-fixed-wireless/

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Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Josh Luthman]

Link?  :P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 12:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> 4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a
> popular title BTW
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Don't think so, but not sure.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> swip, thats it
>>>
>>> Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact
>>> whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a
>>> subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN
>>> account?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>
 You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less
 than a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can
 reassign a single IP, probably yes.

 Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they
 are deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?

 Google something like swip + reassign.


 *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] dmca email

 Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
 customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
 part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[James Howard]

You’ll get a dmca notice……

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dmca email


Link?  :P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 12:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a 
popular title BTW

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:

Don't think so, but not sure.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
swip, thats it

Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact 
whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a 
subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN account?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof 
> wrote:
You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less than a 
/27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can reassign a single 
IP, probably yes.

Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are 
deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?

Google something like swip + reassign.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] dmca email

Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the customer 
if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most part the 
only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,

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Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Mathew Howard]

But at least you won't need to worry about forwarding it to anyone.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM, James Howard  wrote:

> You’ll get a dmca notice……
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] dmca email
>
>
>
> Link?  :P
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 12:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a
> popular title BTW
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> Don't think so, but not sure.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> swip, thats it
>
>
>
> Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact
> whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a
> subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN
> account?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less than
> a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can reassign a
> single IP, probably yes.
>
>
>
> Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are
> deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?
>
>
>
> Google something like swip + reassign.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dmca email
>
>
>
> Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
> customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
> part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> --
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Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Ken Hohhof]

4th of July Booty ... so that’s a patriotic pirate movie?
Argh.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 12:07 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

But at least you won't need to worry about forwarding it to anyone.


On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM, James Howard  wrote:

  You’ll get a dmca notice……



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:42 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dmca email



  Link?  :P

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Nov 12, 2015 12:35 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

  4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a 
popular title BTW



  On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Don't think so, but not sure.

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

  swip, thats it



  Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact 
whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a 
subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN account?



  On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less than 
a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can reassign a 
single IP, probably yes.



Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are 
deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?



Google something like swip + reassign.





From: That One Guy /sarcasm 

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] dmca email



Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the 
customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most 
part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them, 




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Re: [AFMUG] Canopy PMP100 upgrade from 11.2 failing

[Sean Heskett]

try this:

select the element
click on the "edit" menu and select "modify network element access"
under http settings section select "both"

also make sure that the username and password for that element are correct
and the snmp community is correct.

-sean


On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Wireless Administrator 
wrote:

> I have several radio’s that have not been in service for a while.  They’re
> running 11.2 software and when I try to upgrade them to 12.1 or 13.1.3 I
> get an error message:
>
>
>
> “Radio closed FTP connection FTP transfer files failed .”
>
>
>
> This happens on several different radios. These radios have default
> configuration and I’m communicating with them on the Ethernet interface.
>
>
>
> Has anyone experienced this problem?  Solution?
>
>
>
> Steve
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

[Sean Heskett]

that would look great in needle point ;-)



On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM,  wrote:

> This one’s a keeper:
>
> “I hope the guy in charge of the guys in charge of entitlements gets
> shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his wife leaves him with some
> young buck with better hair”
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys
>
> fuck cambiums entitlement key nonsense, since day one with motorolay its
> always been overly complicated and cumbersome. I hope the guy in charge of
> the guys in charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the
> flue and his wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but one has to check each key to see how many are left. It would be
>> great if once you activate at least 1 key that the Entitlement sticks
>> around so you can see how many are left.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> If you get an entitlement for let’s say 10 activations, the Cambium site
>>> will tell you how many you have used and how many are left.  I don’t know
>>> of a way to store an unused entitlement on the site though.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:19 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys
>>>
>>> Is there a way to store the keys that I get from my vendor on the
>>> Cambium site after activating? Or are we just expected to remember which
>>> keys still are good in our inbox?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] Some OSPF advice/discussion dos and donts

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

First, I have to give props to mikrotik. These things are versatile as
hell, multiple mechanisms for access, fairly intuitive CLI syntax, Nice
simple clean GUI, tons of visibility, I wish we had gone this route 6 years
ago, we would be further along in our capabilities.

I finally got the biggest sections of the network fully routed yesterday,
there is only one redundant loop for 3 sites, so OSPF is primarily just
present for route propogation

We have two upstreams, currently each statically routing a /23 each of our
ARIN space with an EOIP tunnel between the two to handle a couple policy
routes, the EOIP tunnel is not currently doing OSPF just sending the /23
across when it needs to.
Both of the edge routers are distributing the default route so the customer
traffic will hit the closest BMU (we are upstream 1 - edge router - bmu -
network - bmu - edge router - upstream 2)

We have butch evans firewall on our interior routers with a couple tweaks

OSPF default instance is:
redistribute default - never (with the exception of the two edge routers)
connected - type 1
static - type 1
rip - no
bgp - no
orther ospf - type 1
metrics are all default

I add an all interface currently with simple authentication, in broadcast
where we are still building out and point to point when its an isolated hop

when i add the network and the dynamic interface instance comes up I go to
it and click copy to make it static

The rest of the configuration is default

Im still trying to understand filters, im semi retarded. I had thought it
was pretty slick to leave the 192.168.88.1 on ether1 so every router had an
accessible ip, but with redistribution of connected routes, i found out the
hard way this was a bad idea when i dumped a configuration into the wrong
router and took a production network down, my bad.

Im putting some EOIP tunnels in for some customer endpoint needs, but I
think MPLS is the actual right way to go, but EOIP is really easy to do.

End of the day we will implement BGP (after all the routers are deployed)
so our internal network will need to be in line for the best utilization of
that.

having BMUs does limit some things, like they only do OSPF, no BGP or iBGP,
there may be a way around that, I dont know, im short bus special, mom told
me the helmet made me handsome.

if i were a real network operator, what would i be doing differently?



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

fuck cambiums entitlement key nonsense, since day one with motorolay its
always been overly complicated and cumbersome. I hope the guy in charge of
the guys in charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the
flue and his wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Yeah, but one has to check each key to see how many are left. It would be
> great if once you activate at least 1 key that the Entitlement sticks
> around so you can see how many are left.
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> If you get an entitlement for let’s say 10 activations, the Cambium site
>> will tell you how many you have used and how many are left.  I don’t know
>> of a way to store an unused entitlement on the site though.
>>
>> *From:* Sam Lambie 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:19 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys
>>
>> Is there a way to store the keys that I get from my vendor on the Cambium
>> site after activating? Or are we just expected to remember which keys still
>> are good in our inbox?
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com 
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

[Ken Hohhof]

Their entitlement portal does a good job of what it does, it just needs to do 
more.

Of course the current method of purchasing entitlements is a pain, they should 
let you buy them online and deposit them directly to your entitlement account, 
where you would be able to see what you have purchased, what you have 
activated, and what you have available to activate.

Currently you order from a VAR, wait a couple days, get an email, copy the 
entitlements from the email to a text or Excel file, then copy to the 
entitlement portal to activate.  Unless you lose the email or lose track of 
what you have used, and order new ones.  Like the people who never use those 
rebates that come via gift cards.  Very frustrating when you need to get a key 
ASAP, like on a weekend when you need an uncapped SM or want to add subscriber 
#11 to an AP that you forgot was a Lite AP.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

fuck cambiums entitlement key nonsense, since day one with motorolay its always 
been overly complicated and cumbersome. I hope the guy in charge of the guys in 
charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his 
wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

  Yeah, but one has to check each key to see how many are left. It would be 
great if once you activate at least 1 key that the Entitlement sticks around so 
you can see how many are left.


  On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

If you get an entitlement for let’s say 10 activations, the Cambium site 
will tell you how many you have used and how many are left.  I don’t know of a 
way to store an unused entitlement on the site though.

From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

Is there a way to store the keys that I get from my vendor on the Cambium 
site after activating? Or are we just expected to remember which keys still are 
good in our inbox?


-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com



  -- 

  -- 
  Sam Lambie
  Taosnet Wireless Tech.
  575-758-7598 Office
  www.Taosnet.com




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] dmca email

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] powering PTP600s off other devices

[Paul McCall]

Can a PTP600 be easily powered off a CMM3/CMM4 or CTM/CTM2 ?

Any downside?

Paul

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

[chuck]

This one’s a keeper: 

“I hope the guy in charge of the guys in charge of entitlements gets shingles 
and crabs while he has the flue and his wife leaves him with some young buck 
with better hair”

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

fuck cambiums entitlement key nonsense, since day one with motorolay its always 
been overly complicated and cumbersome. I hope the guy in charge of the guys in 
charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his 
wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:

  Yeah, but one has to check each key to see how many are left. It would be 
great if once you activate at least 1 key that the Entitlement sticks around so 
you can see how many are left.


  On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

If you get an entitlement for let’s say 10 activations, the Cambium site 
will tell you how many you have used and how many are left.  I don’t know of a 
way to store an unused entitlement on the site though.

From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

Is there a way to store the keys that I get from my vendor on the Cambium 
site after activating? Or are we just expected to remember which keys still are 
good in our inbox?


-- 

-- 
Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com



  -- 

  -- 
  Sam Lambie
  Taosnet Wireless Tech.
  575-758-7598 Office
  www.Taosnet.com




-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

swip, thats it

Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact
whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a
subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN
account?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less than
> a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can reassign a
> single IP, probably yes.
>
> Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are
> deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?
>
> Google something like swip + reassign.
>
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dmca email
>
> Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
> customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
> part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

[Sam Lambie]

Well said Steve. I second that emotion.


On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM,  wrote:

> This one’s a keeper:
>
> “I hope the guy in charge of the guys in charge of entitlements gets
> shingles and crabs while he has the flue and his wife leaves him with some
> young buck with better hair”
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:05 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys
>
> fuck cambiums entitlement key nonsense, since day one with motorolay its
> always been overly complicated and cumbersome. I hope the guy in charge of
> the guys in charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the
> flue and his wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but one has to check each key to see how many are left. It would be
>> great if once you activate at least 1 key that the Entitlement sticks
>> around so you can see how many are left.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> If you get an entitlement for let’s say 10 activations, the Cambium site
>>> will tell you how many you have used and how many are left.  I don’t know
>>> of a way to store an unused entitlement on the site though.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:19 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys
>>>
>>> Is there a way to store the keys that I get from my vendor on the
>>> Cambium site after activating? Or are we just expected to remember which
>>> keys still are good in our inbox?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
-- 
*Sam Lambie*
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598 Office
www.Taosnet.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Harold Bledsoe]

The radio can go faster than the system.  These first models are 1Gbps
aggregate, and we are already working on faster versions.  The primary goal
in this initial round of products is to get a short-range PTP for use in
noisy or higher density environments.  The 1Gbps is nice of course but what
is nicer is clean air.  :-)

Note: they are not 11ad compliant although we are looking at this for the
WiFi side of the house.

-Hal

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> „60GHz 12dBm@2.5Gb“
>
>
>
> As I understood this is 802.11ad. So this will result in a much lower
>
> IP-layer rate but should be above 1G aggregated.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck McCown
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 17:08
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
>
>
> 1G aggregate is what I understand, not FDX.
>
>
>
> In one case I only have fiber to feed the radio.
>
>
>
> *From:* Brett A Mansfield 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:03 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
>
>
> If you can wait for a bit the ignitenet metrolinq is 1Gb full duplex. Only
> problem is there is no SFP, but at the price these sell for is that really
> a big deal? You can do SFP to a small switch like an MT and then just a
> very short eth jumper. You'll lose nothing at all in performance really.
>
>
>
> I honestly don't understand why people are so against copper. The SFP is
> copper, so it goes through copper either way. Ethernet is wonderful for
> very short distances. And it's really cheap and easy to work with.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Brett A Mansfield
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> I need 1G full duplex.
>
>
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz 
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:20 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
>
>
> Beta Units have been shipped
>
>
>
> Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
> Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.
>
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: Faisal Imtiaz 
> Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00)
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
>


-- 

Harold Bledsoe

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys

[Josh Luthman]

I heard rumors that epmp won't be screwing the customer when upgrading from
lite to full APs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:05 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> fuck cambiums entitlement key nonsense, since day one with motorolay its
> always been overly complicated and cumbersome. I hope the guy in charge of
> the guys in charge of entitlements gets shingles and crabs while he has the
> flue and his wife leaves him with some young buck with better hair
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but one has to check each key to see how many are left. It would be
>> great if once you activate at least 1 key that the Entitlement sticks
>> around so you can see how many are left.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> If you get an entitlement for let’s say 10 activations, the Cambium site
>>> will tell you how many you have used and how many are left.  I don’t know
>>> of a way to store an unused entitlement on the site though.
>>>
>>> *From:* Sam Lambie 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 10:19 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Entitlement Keys
>>>
>>> Is there a way to store the keys that I get from my vendor on the
>>> Cambium site after activating? Or are we just expected to remember which
>>> keys still are good in our inbox?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> *Sam Lambie*
>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>> 575-758-7598 Office
>> www.Taosnet.com 
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] Canopy PMP100 upgrade from 11.2 failing

[Wireless Administrator]

I have several radio's that have not been in service for a while.  They're
running 11.2 software and when I try to upgrade them to 12.1 or 13.1.3 I get
an error message:

 

"Radio closed FTP connection FTP transfer files failed ."

 

This happens on several different radios. These radios have default
configuration and I'm communicating with them on the Ethernet interface.

 

Has anyone experienced this problem?  Solution?

 

Steve

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy PMP100 upgrade from 11.2 failing

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

try a different version of cnut

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Wireless Administrator 
wrote:

> I have several radio’s that have not been in service for a while.  They’re
> running 11.2 software and when I try to upgrade them to 12.1 or 13.1.3 I
> get an error message:
>
>
>
> “Radio closed FTP connection FTP transfer files failed .”
>
>
>
> This happens on several different radios. These radios have default
> configuration and I’m communicating with them on the Ethernet interface.
>
>
>
> Has anyone experienced this problem?  Solution?
>
>
>
> Steve
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Josh Luthman]

Did you SWIP the hotel's IP block?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
> customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
> part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Ken Hohhof]

You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less than a 
/27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can reassign a single 
IP, probably yes.

Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are 
deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?

Google something like swip + reassign.


From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] dmca email

Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the customer 
if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most part the 
only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them, 


-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[Josh Luthman]

Don't think so, but not sure.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> swip, thats it
>
> Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact
> whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a
> subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN
> account?
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less
>> than a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can
>> reassign a single IP, probably yes.
>>
>> Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they are
>> deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?
>>
>> Google something like swip + reassign.
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dmca email
>>
>> Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
>> customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
>> part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] dmca email

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

4th of July Booty - Kelsi Monroe (Teen Curves 2015-07-02) is apparently a
popular title BTW

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Don't think so, but not sure.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Nov 12, 2015 12:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> swip, thats it
>>
>> Im trying to understand this better, I dont know about the abuse contact
>> whether that is maintained as parent, but to provide poc info for a
>> subdelegation does the end user have to accept it and create an ARIN
>> account?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> You can SWIP the block to them, I personally wouldn’t bother for less
>>> than a /27 but I guess you could do smaller, I don’t know if you can
>>> reassign a single IP, probably yes.
>>>
>>> Whether this will change who gets the DMCA emails depends on how they
>>> are deciding who to send them to, probably abuse contact?
>>>
>>> Google something like swip + reassign.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:16 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dmca email
>>>
>>> Isnt there something we can do at arin to have these emails go to the
>>> customer if we register their ip block or something like that, for the most
>>> part the only ones we get come from a motel, id rather not even see them,
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Brett A Mansfield]

If you can wait for a bit the ignitenet metrolinq is 1Gb full duplex. Only 
problem is there is no SFP, but at the price these sell for is that really a 
big deal? You can do SFP to a small switch like an MT and then just a very 
short eth jumper. You'll lose nothing at all in performance really. 

I honestly don't understand why people are so against copper. The SFP is 
copper, so it goes through copper either way. Ethernet is wonderful for very 
short distances. And it's really cheap and easy to work with.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> I need 1G full duplex. 
>  
> From: Faisal Imtiaz
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:20 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>  
> Beta Units have been shipped
>  
> Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>  
> From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
> Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.
> 
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: Faisal Imtiaz  
> Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00) 
> An: af@afmug.com 
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP with IPSEC throughput cut in haf

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

i was running speedtest.net speedtests

MPLS/VPLS is next but those wont function externally correct?

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> With eoip 1500 byte packets have to be fragmented.
>
> You should consider MPLS/VPLS.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Adam Moffett
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 15:33
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] EOIP with IPSEC throughput cut in haf
>
>
>
> Watch the statistics on the interface list.is it moving 60mbps on the
> wire while the speedtest is running 30mbps?
>
> Also, are you hitting 100% CPU on either end of the tunnel?  The speed
> test is CPU heavy, and so is the tunnel.
>
> On 11/11/2015 11:44 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> So dicking around with EOIP. for the most part we dont really need to have
> security on these tunnels if theyre used for transit only
>
>
>
> Is this to be expected?
>
>
>
> Im set up with EOIP tunnel between port5 on two 951G-2HnD with a
> redundancy through an old RB750 and routing out through an old RB750
> running OSPF
>
>
>
> The gateway RB750 is connected to port5 on the "remote" 951G-2HnD so its
> basically a tunnel from my laptop to the gateway. the second RB750 isnt in
> play right now because the OSPF cost through it is higher
>
>
>
> Laptop---951G-2HnD-951G-2HnD---RB750-interwebs
>
>
>
> Testing to the local speedtest server without ipsec i see around 60mbps on
> my cable connection when i turn it on it goes to 30mbps
>
>
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Stefan Englhardt]

„60GHz 12dBm@2.5Gb“



As I understood this is 802.11ad. So this will result in a much lower

IP-layer rate but should be above 1G aggregated.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck McCown
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 17:08
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP



1G aggregate is what I understand, not FDX.



In one case I only have fiber to feed the radio.



From: Brett A Mansfield 

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:03 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP



If you can wait for a bit the ignitenet metrolinq is 1Gb full duplex. Only 
problem is there is no SFP, but at the price these sell for is that really a 
big deal? You can do SFP to a small switch like an MT and then just a very 
short eth jumper. You'll lose nothing at all in performance really.



I honestly don't understand why people are so against copper. The SFP is 
copper, so it goes through copper either way. Ethernet is wonderful for very 
short distances. And it's really cheap and easy to work with.

Thank you,

Brett A Mansfield


On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown  > wrote:

I need 1G full duplex.



From: Faisal Imtiaz 

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:20 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP



Beta Units have been shipped



Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.



Regards



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 





  _


From: "Stefan Englhardt"  >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: Faisal Imtiaz  >
Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Harold Bledsoe]

Working on it!  And you are not forgotten!

-Hal

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> Hi Hal,
>
>
>
> where is my beta unit ? You remember? This small guy in Prague who just was
>
> staring at the prototype.  Need 1Gig at 740m for testing.
>
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 07:20
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
>
>
> Beta Units have been shipped
>
>
>
> Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
> Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.
>
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: Faisal Imtiaz 
> Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00)
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP
>
>


-- 

Harold Bledsoe

Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

[Chuck McCown]

1G aggregate is what I understand, not FDX.  

In one case I only have fiber to feed the radio.  

From: Brett A Mansfield 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

If you can wait for a bit the ignitenet metrolinq is 1Gb full duplex. Only 
problem is there is no SFP, but at the price these sell for is that really a 
big deal? You can do SFP to a small switch like an MT and then just a very 
short eth jumper. You'll lose nothing at all in performance really. 

I honestly don't understand why people are so against copper. The SFP is 
copper, so it goes through copper either way. Ethernet is wonderful for very 
short distances. And it's really cheap and easy to work with.

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield

On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


  I need 1G full duplex.  

  From: Faisal Imtiaz 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:20 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

  Beta Units have been shipped


  Production units are expected to follow in 30-60 days.


  Regards


  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


--

From: "Stefan Englhardt" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:14:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Announced for a long time now. Not sure this will happen.

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: Faisal Imtiaz  
Datum: 12.11.2015 03:03 (GMT+01:00) 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Gig Radios with SFP

Re: [AFMUG] JAB + LTE = RISE

[Chuck McCown]

I presume they are not using unlicensed frequencies for this.  

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:00 AM
To: memb...@wispa.org ; af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] JAB + LTE = RISE


I wonder if they're going to be rolling with Telrad?


- Original Message - 
From: Peter Radizeski 
To: FISPA Members List 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:35 AM
Subject: [FISPA Members] JAB + LTE = RISE

Rise Broadband, the company formerly known as JAB Broadband that is 
playing the role of broadband wireless consolidator, said yesterday that 
it plans to deploy fixed broadband wireless equipment based on LTE, 
beginning initially in the Joplin, Missouri area.

http://www.telecompetitor.com/rise-broadband-aims-for-50-mbps-broadband-with-lte-fixed-wireless/

-- 
Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO INC
Bandwidth * Colo * Circuits * Consulting
813.963.5884
http://rad-info.net


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