[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3+DAC vs Transporter
tomjtx;150596 Wrote: Greg, did you try plugging the SB wall wart into a power conditioner? This made a significant difference in SQ. Next get a Bolder modded Elpac. There are only a few elpacs left and Bolder is raising it's mod price from 85.00 to 100.00 on Nov.1. You can order the mod before you buy the elpac. When you buy the elpac have them ship it directly to Bolder to save shipping costs. Thanks for the suggestions. No, I haven't tried anything with the SB3 yet. Being a bit of a DIYer, I am planning to build my own PSU, just in the research and planning stage at the moment. I have been followng the Bolder/RWA/Sqeezebox PSU threads on all the forums I can find. A power conditioner is probably worth looking at for my hifi in general, not just for the SB3. regards -- Greg Erskine Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Rotel RA-04, RA-05 RA-06. Any thoughts...
I've always found Rotel gear to offer excellent value for money and very neutral, un-coloured sound. I'd have a listen to see if it suits you but I think they're often as good or better than many much more 'premium' marques at a substantially lower cost. -- bossanova808 bossanova808's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28432 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter into poweramp?
The volume control is digital, though (as per many other threads here!) you can use a decent range on it before you'll notice any quality change. The issue is more about protecting your amp and speakers from any accidental surge - remember the transporter is entirely controlled by software! You have to assume that at some point your transporter is going to find itself at max output, and if that level will blow your speakers, you need to get some attentuation into the chain. HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29151 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3+DAC vs Transporter
tomjtx;150583 Wrote: If Wayne will offer me a 30 day trial of his modded SB and Ultimate PS I will jump on the offer. I would also like a trial of his modded TP. I promise I will buy what sounds best to me. You can run my credit card and charge what I don't return. FYI, we're happy to do that with the SB+. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: RWA Modded SB3 with Paradisea DAC questions.
Another vote for the Constantine (or the USB Plus Constantine). The build quality, and the sound, of the Mhdt Labs DAC units is absolutely fantastic. The open areas of the DAC (on each side) are actually very narrow, no dust getting in there at all. Delivery from Taiwan to U.S. (my door) was only 2 days! They package the product extremely well for shipping. These are hand-made DAC units, and they are in my opinion one of the very best buys in audio right now. -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29115 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tyler_durden;150373 Wrote: The audio circuits inside the SB3 are powered by switching regulators inside the SB3. Switching to a linear supply external to the SB3 does not eliminate the switching regulators inside the SB3. There have been many threads about this, and Slim Devices people did some measurements to confirm there is no difference in performance. If you want to hear a difference you will, so you should get the linear supply and you will be happy. If you don't think you'll hear a difference, then don't bother, because there is no difference to hear. TD I just wanted to say thanks to tyler_durden for giving this honest opinion, and for not being intimidated from expressing it by offensive posts like that from 'tomjtx' below. I might mention that anybody who expresses an opinion should be welcome here, and that tyler_durden's post happens to state the same opinion as that of SlimDevices CEO Sean Adams himself. So 'tomjtx' do you think Sean Adams' opinion is idiotic as well? Do you always call names when somebody has a different opinion from your own? -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
I recently invested in a 12V lead acid battery - completely sealed so 'clean' for a domestic environment, purchased a DC-DC regulator and am VERY happy with the result. How did it affect the music - In every way an AC supply cannot. Take my advice and look at battery solutions. You only use them when you are really listening, so the longevity of the supply isn't important. I have a 7 Amp Hour battery which keeps going for about 6 hours fully charged - I lose battery energy from the heat sink on my supply pack, so I don't get the rated performance from the battery. My solution uses the ubiquitous LM317 regulator - does a great job. Ask me about it anytime. Cheers -- peejay After Silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music - Aldous Huxley. peejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tomjtx;150401 Wrote: you are absolutely WRONG about that. I am a professional musician, trained to hear far more subtle differences than the PS makes. I can listen to a piece of music and then write it down. I can identify numerous clasical guitarists in blind AB with 100% accuracy simply by their tone. And I identifird the PS V stock ps blind EVERY time. Before you make idiotic statements like that you should spend twenty years doing ear training exercises as I have. To reiterate: I am a succesful, professionaly trained musician and I obviously have MUCH better hearing skills than you. Do the hard work to attain the aural skills I have and maybe then you will have the right to an opinion. Otherwise you are just blowing hot air No one blows hot air on these forums, these forums are for sharing ideas. Egos are put aside and friendly exchanges of experience are what happems here. Nothing else is welcome. -- peejay After Silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music - Aldous Huxley. peejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
My heart sinks when I see a reply to a forum thread which attacks another member. Since my first encounter with Slim devices forum my experience has been a pleasent experience of an exchange of ideas between members, and generous gifts of good advice for those who need it, from those who have that information. Let's keep it that way, and be gracious in exchange of ideas, comments, and audio intellecutal collateral. -- peejay After Silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music - Aldous Huxley. peejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
peejay;150624 Wrote: No one blows hot air on these forums If only! ;) -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
ceejay;150630 Wrote: If only! ;) Well, sometimes.. -- peejay After Silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music - Aldous Huxley. peejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7046 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Trasporter display configuration - done much?
Has anyone tried messing about with the display configuration for the Trasporter? I ask as I have spent a good deal of time trying to achieve a certain set up for the displays and am finding it all a bit difficult and confusing. I'm using Michael Herger's great MusicInfo plugin. I'm interested to know if anyone else has tried messing about in depth with the display settings and what their experience has been (i.e. am i just a bit thick!). I've been posting about it on the third party plugin forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29084 It's only at the end of the thread where I make up my mind what I really want to achieve though. Thanks for any input. MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29162 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tomjtx;150401 Wrote: you are absolutely WRONG about that. I am a professional musician, trained to hear far more subtle differences than the PS makes. I can listen to a piece of music and then write it down. I can identify numerous clasical guitarists in blind AB with 100% accuracy simply by their tone. And I identifird the PS V stock ps blind EVERY time. Before you make idiotic statements like that you should spend twenty years doing ear training exercises as I have. To reiterate: I am a succesful, professionaly trained musician and I obviously have MUCH better hearing skills than you. Do the hard work to attain the aural skills I have and maybe then you will have the right to an opinion. Otherwise you are just blowing hot air Tom, have you actually done a proper blind test on the two power supplies? I've several times considered buying one, but I'm a skeptic on these things and have never seen any evidence or convincing reason to believe that it's worth it. However if you have actually done a proper blind test - meaning someone else swaps them, randomly, out of your sight, and you can tell the difference reliably (like you get it right 6/6 times, let's say), I might go for it. Is that what you did? -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter into poweramp?
ceejay;150606 Wrote: The volume control is digital, though (as per many other threads here!) you can use a decent range on it before you'll notice any quality change. The issue is more about protecting your amp and speakers from any accidental surge - remember the transporter is entirely controlled by software! You have to assume that at some point your transporter is going to find itself at max output, and if that level will blow your speakers, you need to get some attentuation into the chain. HTH Ceejay There are hardware attenuaters that you can set for the analog outs inside the Transporter... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29151 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
opaqueice;150644 Wrote: Tom, have you actually done a proper blind test on the two power supplies? I've several times considered buying one, but I'm a skeptic on these things and have never seen any evidence or convincing reason to believe that it's worth it. However if you have actually done a proper blind test - meaning someone else swaps them, randomly, out of your sight, and you can tell the difference reliably (like you get it right 6/6 times, let's say), I might go for it. Is that what you did? yes, I did. My response to Tyler was in reaction to his making an absolute statement that there is no difference and saying that any difference is in the listener , not the gear. By implication, that is insulting my aural acuity and my integrity and he is the one guilty of bad manners, not me. If he had said in my opinion or I can't hear a difference but maybe others can I would have had a different response. I have a lifetime of ear training, that is not ego, it is just fact. BTW, I got it right 10 out of 10, My recording engineer friend got it right 9 out of 10.that was enough for me. I don't know why it sounds better and (not being an audio designer I don't need to know), but it does sound better. Stock PS in wall = hash, grain and harshness in high frequencies Stock PS in a power conditioner= significantly cleaner, sweeter highs,better soundstage Modded Elpac in Power cond.= Another significant improvement in highs, soundstage etc. The differences with each change were not subtle. I don't know why the elpac sounds better, and I don't care. Again it was Tyler who was rude, not me. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3+DAC vs Transporter
Patrick Dixon;150610 Wrote: FYI, we're happy to do that with the SB+. Wouldn't there be high shipping and duty from UK to US? Hmmm, I have 2 friends coming for a concert here, a British duo, perhaps they coud bring it. I will PM you if it could work -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
NewBuyer;150614 Wrote: I just wanted to say thanks to tyler_durden for giving this honest opinion, and for not being intimidated from expressing it by offensive posts like that from 'tomjtx' above (unless that post from 'tomjtx' was intended to be a joke post). I might mention that anybody who expresses an opinion should be welcome here without harassment, and that tyler_durden's post happens to state the same opinion as that of SlimDevices CEO Sean Adams himself. So 'tomjtx' do you think Sean Adams' opinion is idiotic as well? Do you always start name-calling when somebody has a different opinion than yours? I didn't say his opinion was idiotic, I said his statement was idiotic and I stand by that. That any difference one hears will necessarily be in ones head is an idiotic thing to say. He is entitled to that opinion , but he should have qualified it as his opinion, not a statement of fact. Has he done a blind test of a power supply? Does he have years of ear training?. He can't know the particular situation or the hearing acuity of the individual involved. A scientist(and both my nephews are PHD's in molecular biology and support this) looks to explain observable phenomena and doesn't de facto rule out a possibility. To assume the difference is in one's head is as much a mistake as to assume the difference is in the gear. Hence the blind test. I didn't take the bait on the TP burn in thread but Tylers post on this thread was the proverbial straw. He was the rude one, not I. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
peejay;150624 Wrote: No one blows hot air on these forums, these forums are for sharing ideas. Egos are put aside and friendly exchanges of experience are what happens here. Nothing else is welcome. Again, Tyler's post was not a friendly exchange. He made a blanket statement there is no difference not , In my opinion there is no difference If he hasn't listened and done a blind test then it is blowing hot air. He was the rude one, not me This is the last time I will post on the subject of my hot air post, if you don't agree Tyler was rude and you still think my post was rude or harrassing that's OK with me, you are entitled to your opinion. But my intention was not to harrass, it was to defend a position he was attempting to discredit, not dissagree with. I've now made my position clear and don't feel a need to explain it further. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter into poweramp?
Michael16oz;150554 Wrote: Hi and thanks for any advice offered... I would like to buy a transporter without preamp and run it straight into a power amp (or activespeaker) Will this combination be problematic... is the Transpoter volume control to be avoided?? What do people think of flying mole Power amps... thanks Michael What Amp or Active Speakers do you have in mind? Are you going to use the Balanced output (no built in attenuation available)? It's all in the details ... -- arge arge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29151 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter into poweramp?
Exactly -- they are clearly marked and it is easy to do. You just need a 1/16th hex wrench. They're right in front of the RCA outputs. You'll notice the markings (-30, -20, -10, 0) for L and R. At O, you will find a plastic coated jumper on each side. Just move those to -30, see how that works, and then back off from there. PhilNYC;150653 Wrote: There are hardware attenuaters that you can set for the analog outs inside the Transporter... -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29151 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tomjtx;150685 Wrote: I've now made my position clear and don't feel a need to explain it further. I agree with your posts, but man you need to chill out a bit; there's no point having perfect ears if your heart explodes before you're 40! -- adamslim SB3 and Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
adamslim;150705 Wrote: I agree with your posts, but man you need to chill out a bit; there's no point having perfect ears if your heart explodes before you're 40! Don't worry, my blood pressure didn't go up when I was posting, that happens when my girlfriend drops by :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter into poweramp?
I've tested running the Transporter into my Naim NAC102 preamp and then straight into my NAP250 power amp. I prefer it into just the power amp. Your mileage may vary. :-) MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29151 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 24/96 on Transporter: should it work?
Yup I have a DVD 24 bit 192khz rip of Neil Young's Harvest. I thought the Transporter would be able to play this, but it plays at half speed which is not ideal (but does have it's interesting moments). I thought the Transporter was flagged as able handle this but obviously not. MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29059 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
I'd just like to give an update on the progress on these tweaks. I eliminated one of the two analogue grounding interconnects, since I figured nothing good could come from having more ground loops. Generally I needed to move the connector often to maintain the improved sound quality. The lazier I got, the less fantastic the sound became. Today I decided to try contact treatment in the form of SST (silver stuff). It is probably not for everyone, since potentially at some time in the future I might have to remove the silver paste (at least that's what some people claim). Anyway, I treated ground sleve and signal pin on the digital interconnect (coax) and the ground sleve on the extra grounding interconnect. Result? I can confidently say that this is by far the best sound I have ever heard. Even better than before. A strict A/B test might be almost useless (even if it could be done), since I now listen about 5 to 10 dB louder than before! It is worrying to see the preamps volume readout, but it sure sounds fantastic! I feel very confident now that I've been listening to large proportions of downconverted cr*p (HF) before (at least that is the only feasible explanation I can think of at the moment). YMMV, but I haven't heard any CD playback system that approaches the sound I have at the moment. As before my preamp is a TacT RCS 2.2x with room correction in use. It also has a power supply upgrade by Aberdeen, and some internal contact treatment tweaks by myself. -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
P Floding;150752 Wrote: YMMV, but I haven't heard any CD playback system that approaches the sound I have at the moment. As before my preamp is a TacT RCS 2.2x with room correction in use. It also has a power supply upgrade by Aberdeen, and some internal contact treatment tweaks by myself. Try the Aberdeen Northstar transport and forget about the SB. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
jhm731;150756 Wrote: Try the Aberdeen Northstar transport and forget about the SB. You obviously haven't head my setup! Are you near Oxford, UK? -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Rotel RA-04, RA-05 RA-06. Any thoughts...
Smiler33;150569 Wrote: Thanks alot for your quality advice. I went to Singapore and tested a few systems while I was there. At the Rotel distributor, I compared the RB RC 06, the RA 06 and the RA 1062. I was amazed at the difference the 10 series offered in quality! It was like listening to outside with the windows opened compared to closed. The sound was so much more involved. The 06 range lack quality midrange. The seller did offer me the pre-amp and power amp option (like yours...) and also the more powerful 100w model interated but with the size of room, budget and my baggage allowance this model made sense! It sounds absolutely great!! I have no regrets about the purchase at all and its so simple even my girlfriend can use it easily! Thanks again! Great. Welcome to the club. I was lucky enough to be able to compare the RA-1062 with the RC/RB-1070 in my own living room before making a decision. As I got a good price, I ended up with the combo. -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28432 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
I have been following this thread with great interest but seem to have gotten confused a bit along the way. Ok, if understand correctly, you are currently running the following: 1. All unused analog RCA inputs on the TACT shorted with shorting plugs. 2. Digital coax from the SB to the TACT and treated with SS. 3. One RCA interconnect running from the analog output of the SB to one of the analog inputs of the TACT and treated with SS. Thanks -- krell krell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
I use an Aberdeen modified TACT TCSMKII, RCS2.2.XP and BOZ 216/2220s in my HT and 2.2 setups. I use an Aberdeen modified North Star transport and Transporter in my 2.2 setup. Personally, I feel that the North Star transport is the best redbook transport for the TACT units. I moved my Esoteric D-03/P-03 to my headphone setup after hearing the North Star in my TACT system. While I feel that the Transporter is an excellent piece that I happily use for 90% of my listening, the North Star via AES and w/ upsampling on, achieves perfect transparency and adds a smoothness to the TACT setup that I have yet to hear w/ any other transport. +---+ |Filename: TP1.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1913| +---+ -- Sleestack *headphone:* singlepower sds-xlr at, classe sacd2, hd650 *2 channel:* tact rcs 2.2.xp w/ full aberdeen mods, bel canto oneref. 1000 monoblocks x 4,teac esoteric p-03/d-03, epiphany 12-12s (waiting for my 20-21s), tact w210 corner load subs *5.1 channel:* tact tcs mkii w/ aberdeen power supply, tact boz 216/2200 (x5) w/ aberdeen power supply, tact adc6 w/ full aberdeen mods, denon 5910, bel canto pl-1a, eggleston andra ii (x5), velodyne dd-15, pioneer elite pro 1130hd Sleestack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
Sleestack;150787 Wrote: While I feel that the Transporter is an excellent piece that I happily use for 90% of my listening, the North Star via AES and w/ upsampling on, achieves perfect transparency and adds a smoothness to the TACT setup that I have yet to hear w/ any other transport. I and other Tact owners think the sample rate converter in the TacT equipment has audible problems with non-integral conversions. The TacT gear works internally at 96kHz, so feeding it 48kHz, 96kHz, or 192kHz sounds better than feeding it 44.1kHz. Have you tried using Adobe Audition (30-day free trial if you don't have it already) and using it to upsample a CD track to say 96kHz/24 bit (the maximum the Transporter will handle) and then comparing that track played through the Transporter with playback through the North Star? I have used Audition to upsample all my 44.1kHz files to 48kHz for playback through the SB3 to my RCS 2.2X. Granted, it's not as convenient to upsample with Audition as it is in the North Star, but it only needs to be done once. Regards, Kim -- krochat -- SB3 (+linear) - Big Ben - TacT RCS 2.2X - 2xS2150 - Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT W210 krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
Are you the other Korean Kim that loves his TACT gear? I haven't tried that. I should take the time to try that with the Esoteric P-03 as well, as I can output that signal at multiples of 48 or 44.1. krochat;150789 Wrote: I and other Tact owners think the sample rate converter in the TacT equipment has audible problems with non-integral conversions. The TacT gear works internally at 96kHz, so feeding it 48kHz, 96kHz, or 192kHz sounds better than feeding it 44.1kHz. Have you tried using Adobe Audition (30-day free trial if you don't have it already) and using it to upsample a CD track to say 96kHz/24 bit (the maximum the Transporter will handle) and then comparing that track played through the Transporter with playback through the North Star? I have used Audition to upsample all my 44.1kHz files to 48kHz for playback through the SB3 to my RCS 2.2X. Granted, it's not as convenient to upsample with Audition as it is in the North Star, but it only needs to be done once. Regards, Kim -- Sleestack *headphone:* singlepower sds-xlr at, classe sacd2, hd650 *2 channel:* tact rcs 2.2.xp w/ full aberdeen mods, bel canto oneref. 1000 monoblocks x 4,teac esoteric p-03/d-03, epiphany 12-12s (waiting for my 20-21s), tact w210 corner load subs *5.1 channel:* tact tcs mkii w/ aberdeen power supply, tact boz 216/2200 (x5) w/ aberdeen power supply, tact adc6 w/ full aberdeen mods, denon 5910, bel canto pl-1a, eggleston andra ii (x5), velodyne dd-15, pioneer elite pro 1130hd Sleestack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
Sleestack;150795 Wrote: Are you the other Korean Kim that loves his TACT gear? Sorry, I'm English/French. Kim was a popular name to give a baby boy back in the 50's. I'd characterize my relationship with my TacT gear as more of a love/hate relationship! Regards, Kim -- krochat -- SB3 (+linear) - Big Ben - TacT RCS 2.2X - 2xS2150 - Vandersteen 3a Signature + TacT W210 krochat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
krell;150783 Wrote: I have been following this thread with great interest but seem to have gotten confused a bit along the way. Ok, if understand correctly, you are currently running the following: 1. All unused analog RCA inputs on the TACT shorted with shorting plugs. 2. Digital coax from the SB to the TACT and treated with SS. 3. One RCA interconnect running from the analog output of the SB to one of the analog inputs of the TACT and treated with SS. Thanks Yes. And the analogue RCA is especially adapted for this task as well, with a short on the input side, no signal lead, and a 4.7kOhm resistor on the output side. The SB's analogue output signal has been muted as well. -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
krochat;150798 Wrote: I'd characterize my relationship with my TacT gear as more of a love/hate relationship! Regards, Kim That goes w/o saying. I think all experienced TACT users share your sentiments there. -- Sleestack *headphone:* singlepower sds-xlr at, classe sacd2, hd650 *2 channel:* tact rcs 2.2.xp w/ full aberdeen mods, bel canto oneref. 1000 monoblocks x 4,teac esoteric p-03/d-03, epiphany 12-12s (waiting for my 20-21s), tact w210 corner load subs *5.1 channel:* tact tcs mkii w/ aberdeen power supply, tact boz 216/2200 (x5) w/ aberdeen power supply, tact adc6 w/ full aberdeen mods, denon 5910, bel canto pl-1a, eggleston andra ii (x5), velodyne dd-15, pioneer elite pro 1130hd Sleestack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Question for phono audiophiles
This question is sort of off-topic, but I'm pretty sure some kind person here will answer the question :) I'm busy digitizing my LP's (slow.) - my nephew (who of course has never even seen one before) was nice enough to drop the needle right on the platter for me - toast! It's a JVC JL-F30 turntable, with an ADC brand cartridge with a slip-on stylus - QLM 33 MKIII. So I went and got an Ortofon OM5E cartridge; I've seen good reviews, etc. Well, first thing I noticed is I don't seem to have the same dynamic range when I look at my recorded waveforms - ie. the loud bits aren't as much louder than the silences as with the old needle. I put the same song side-by-side, there seems to be about a 15db difference. Does this make sense? Am I going to regret doing the rest of the albums with the Ortofon cartridge? Any tips? Thanks! -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29186 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
P Floding;150757 Wrote: You obviously haven't head my setup! Are you near Oxford, UK? No, I haven't heard your set up, and you haven't heard a fully upgraded Aberdeen 2.2X or an Aberdeen NorthStar. I live in the USA. Please see Sleestack's feedback on the Aberdeen NorthStar. He's tried the SB3 and Transporter. PS- the Aberdeen upgrades to the 2.2X and NorthStar also eliminate the need for add-on boxes like the Apogee Big Ben. PPS- Aberdeen is currently working on upgrades for the Transporter. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Question for phono audiophiles
Thanks for the response Pat. I'm using Nero wave editor to look at my recordings, which is where I notice that the peaks are running 15db lower on the loud bits, whereas if there is any difference in the silences, it is not as visible. This indicates to me that I've lost S/N, but db is logarithmic, right, so it's not as bad as it looks, is it? I'm kind of winging it here - I just don't want to find out later that I should have done something differently, because then I'll be tempted to do it all over again! (and I'm already getting trouble for spending so much time on this little project!) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29186 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Question for phono audiophiles
This may be a dumb question, but I don't want to assume anything: Did you set your record levels to similar points with both carts? As pfarrell pointed out, carts can vary significantly in sensitivity. If you left your record levels at the same point with the new cart you may simply be recording at too low a level. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29186 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tomjtx;150656 Wrote: ...I have a lifetime of ear training... I got it right 10 out of 10... Stock PS in wall = hash, grain and harshness in high frequencies Stock PS in a power conditioner= significantly cleaner, sweeter highs,better soundstage Modded Elpac in Power cond.= Another significant improvement in highs, soundstage etc... Tyler did not seem rude. Nor was his statement in any way idiotic. And he may be correct as well - in spite of your attack, and the pride you have in your very special ear training. If you did the tests you claim, it could simply show that you have very poor AC power quality/delivery in your listening room. In any event, you should quality your own statements too then, every single time, as just being your own opinion and nothing more. Saying that somebody needs 25 years of super-duper ear training in order to reach your awesome elite etc etc self-description, before they can have a right to an opinion too, perhaps makes you look foolish and not very credible at all. In my opinion. -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Question for phono audiophiles
In fact a good question. I was recording at 100% with both cartridges - I was up in the red quite a bit with the original cartridge, so maybe I was overdoing it. I think I'm probably OK from a S/N consideration - I've noticed that it's actually finding the track breaks a little better now (with the dial set to -50dB rather than having to drop it to -46 or -48dB). I'm probably making a big fuss over nothing, but never hurts to ask questions! Why not learn in advance of making the mistakes? -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29186 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
NewBuyer;150810 Wrote: Tyler did not seem rude. Nor was his statement in any way idiotic. And he may be correct as well - in spite of your attack, and the pride you have in your very special ear training. If you did the tests you claim, it could simply show that you have very poor AC power quality/delivery in your listening room. In any event, you should quality your own statements too then, every single time, as just being your own opinion and nothing more. Saying that somebody needs 25 years of super-duper ear training in order to reach your awesome elite etc etc self-description, before they can have a right to an opinion too, is offensive. Some may think it also makes you look not very credible at all. In my opinion. I have 4 dedicated lines in my listening room. 10 guage romex and hospital grade outlets. The rest of your post isn't worthy of a response -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tomjtx;150816 Wrote: I have 4 dedicated lines in my listening room. 10 guage romex and hospital grade outlets. The rest of your post isn't worthy of a response Then why do you suppose the stock PS in a power conditioner sounded better to you, as you reported above? Again, you just don't sound credible IMO. P.S. All posts are worthy of a response, including yours. -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Question for phono audiophiles
nicketynick wrote: Thanks for the response Pat you're welcome . I'm using Nero wave editor to look at my recordings, which is where I notice that the peaks are running 15db lower on the loud bits, whereas if there is any difference in the silences, it is not as visible. This indicates to me that I've lost S/N, but db is logarithmic, right, so it's not as bad as it looks, is it? Are you recording at 24 bits or 16? You might want to take a quick look at http://www.pfarrell.com/prc/bits.html Look carefully at the lead-in or lead-out sections between tracks. It should be all noise. If it is also 15 dB down, you have sufficient headroom. Of interest to this discussion is we say that twice as loud, or one more bit of data, is a tad over 6.02 dB so your 15 dB is two and a half bits. Out of 16, that is a fairly high percentage, but out of 24 it is no big deal. I'm kind of winging it here - I just don't want to find out later that I should have done something differently, because then I'll be tempted to do it all over again! (and I'm already getting trouble for spending so much time on this little project!) Converting LPs takes tons of time, far more than people expect. And for me, it takes far more time than the $10 that most of my pop LPs cost as CDs. But some of my folk and jazz LPs are out of print and important to me, so they are worth the time. For me, while I have both Cool Edit (now called Adobe Audition ) and Sonar, and lots of plug-ins from my recording studio, I do not use any noise reduction on converted LPs. All of the noise plug-ins have audible artifacts, so I just live with the occasional pop. My LPs were well kept, I had audiophile turntables (at least at the time they were) for years before I went over to the dark side with CDs. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 into TacT - how good can it get?
P Floding;150799 Wrote: Yes. And the analogue RCA is especially adapted for this task as well, with a short on the input side, no signal lead, and a 4.7kOhm resistor on the output side. The SB's analogue output signal has been muted as well. Could you provide some detailed pics of this setup along with perhaps a drawing or schematic of the shorting/grounding interconnect you constructed. Im sure some of us will want to experiment... -- krell krell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28307 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
Thanks to all of you for the varied suggestions. I also appreciate the varied opinions and the attempts to qualify these. However, this thread doesn't need to deteriorate into an argument between those who believe that modded power supplies make all the difference and those who do not. All opinions are valued! The only way of definitively answering whether or not there is any difference between power supplies is to conduct a randomized, double blind test with multiple participants, all following the same testing protocol. Obviously, this is difficult from a logistical point of view and, consequently, we have to rely on limited tests. So unless a group of people conduct a randomized test, these arguments/discussions aren't going to be resolved anytime soon. My suggestion is that we keep providing opinions, backed up with as much evidence as possible. In that way, individuals can make decisions based on the best possible info. I, for one, plan on picking up a modded Elpac in the near future, not because I am convinced that it will make a difference but because I would like to confirm that it does not. El Duderino -- El Duderino El Duderino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
Some things are worth testing and others are not. It IS possible to use one's intellect to deterimine which is which. For example, if I were to suggest that the best mod you can make to improve the sound of your stereo is to hold a loaded 44 caliber gun to your head and pull the trigger, no one would think it is true. No one would test the idea. No one would even suggest testing it (although there are some bruised egos that may suggest that I test it and get back to them with the results!). It is pointless to labor this any further. As I said in the first post, if you are a believer, you will hear a difference, and if you aren't you won't. There's no need to get upset about it. It is human nature and it applies to you even if you think it doesn't. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggestions for an up-to-date, available source for a linear PS
tyler_durden;150825 Wrote: Some things are worth testing and others are not. It IS possible (and usually less costly) to use one's intellect to deterimine which is which. For example, if I were to suggest that the best mod you can make to improve the sound of your stereo is to hold a loaded 44 caliber gun to your head and pull the trigger, no one would think it is true. No one would test the idea. No one would even suggest testing it (although there are some bruised egos that may suggest that I test it and get back to them with the results!). It is pointless to labor this any further. As I said in the first post, if you are a believer, you will hear a difference, and if you aren't you won't. There's no need to get upset about it. It is human nature and it applies to you even if you think it doesn't. No one's mind will be changed by any of this. If you say that a stop sign is red and the person you are talking to says no it isn't, what more can you say and what is the point in continuing the dialog? It is like trying to convince a child that he shouldn't eat candy because it isn't healthy. TD here is my problem with your post: you are stating that the only difference is in the ear of the beholder. I don't think you can prove that. How do you account for 2 people identifying the difference blind with such accuracy, one, a recording engineer, the other a musician. The differences were that obvious. I have failed other blind tests where I thought there were subtle differences, the most recent being digital cable. That would not cause me to say there are no differences in cables but I feel I can say I couldn't hear a difference in those particular cables and that leds me to be very skeptical about digital cables. I'm glad I don't hear a difference, it saves me money. Or my thread on TP burn in. I was open to all sides of that debate. I still think my TP is improving with time but I am completely open to the idea that it's me, not the TP. In the next few weeks I might have a new, in the box TP here to AB for the fun of it. I will have some people over to blind AB. I have no problem if I fail that test saying that the burn in effect was in my mind. But if I and others pass the test I will feel pretty secure in saying there is a burn in effect for the TP. Seems reasonable to me.Does that sound reasonable to you? Atheism is as much an act of faith as Theism. One can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a deity. The only purely rational viewpoint is agnosticismOnecannot rationally know,therefore One neither denies nor affirms the existence of a deity (Camus, Myth of Sisyphus) This is not to dis theists or atheists, many consider an act of faith a beautiful thing. However I have no interest in acts of faith in audio. So for fun, how about this analogy: Atheists =Objectivists Theists =Subjectivists Agnostics = Unitarians :-) BTW my ego is not bruised and I really, I mean, really don't want want you to the gun test, not even blind, or blinfolded as the case may be. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29058 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
