Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz EQ/DRC
Ubuntu, nice. With all this exe-stuff I wasn't too sure ... I'll try the installation on my 18.04 LMS :) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hahahahahahahahaha
Percival Sweetwater wrote: > "The RS-232 and IR Input allow integration with home automation systems > as well." > > Hmm, RS-232. That's pretty state of the art! In fact that does make sense. It's highly unlikely some nodding audiophile will want to update his home automation system because the player can't connect to it, especially given that the demographic for audiophiles having invested in extensive home automation and wanting to integrate their music system into it must be a group of rather advanced age ... Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109212 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squezzebox 3: power supply recommendation. other tips?
Fahzz wrote: > My problem with the cheap PSU's is the failure rate. I went through > three of them in a year, and I finally decided to just take the Classic > offline and went with a Pi device. > > When I was looking at options, I came across this, and people who seem > to know what they are talking about were very high on it: > > https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-ipower/ > > The price is reasonable compared to others, and I know allegations about > improved sound quality are debatable, but maybe it helps answer your > question. I didn't buy one so I have no personal experience. Maybe > others here do. Just FYI regardig ifi power supplies: https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/measurements-of-sonore-microrendu-streamer.577/ Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108708 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Hilarity Never Stops
In any halfway decent car with a halfway decent car stereo, a good recording will still be more enjoyable than a Loudness War victim. That kind of treatment is actually aimed at the iPhone (or other smartphone, just being biased anti-Apple here :p)generation, with their horrible little earbuds incapable of reproducing bass impact anyway ... Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Subwoofer recomendations
Mnyb wrote: > I know you cant hear much distortion down at sub frequency, but > rattling and port noises and excessive distortion The only non-musical sound (and I use the term liberally to include movie sounds) ever produced by my BK Monolith is the rattling of glasses in the cupboard and one particular door from my living room to the hallway :p This happened when watching "Finding Nemo" at "reference level", when the little girl taps the fish tank ... I don't think the neighbours really appreciated this either :) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108865 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Subwoofer recomendations
Mnyb wrote: > The BK monoliths looks very similar to the REL Ive already have at 1/2 > the price 14 years later . > > I will also consider dual subs , this is said to give smoother in room > response . That's because BK Electronics used to design and build the REL subwoofers (https://www.bkelec.com/about_us.htm) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108865 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Subwoofer recomendations
slartibartfast wrote: > These seem to get good reviews. > https://www.bkelec.com > > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk I personally have a BK sub and wouldn't want to miss it for the world. I have the Monolith+ FF. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004 + TMA Premium 905 + TMA Premium 901 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 + BK Monolith+ FF + Lenovo T460 + Kodi + Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Kitchen: iPhone 5s + iPeng (local playback activated) + NAD 312 + Teufel Ultima 20 Mk 2 Headphone (cozy corner): Lenovo T550 + Squeezelite-X + Cyrus Soundkey + Topping A30 + Focal Elear Car: TBC ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108865 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
cliveb wrote: > After everything I've seen emerge about MQA, it's becoming increasingly > clear that it is a cynical attempt to extract more cash from punters > through FUD. > > The people who have built this system almost certainly know full well > that it's all a bunch of smoke and mirrors. > And they also know that if you present the right kind of pseudo-science > to the right kind of audiophile and then get them to do a sighted > comparison, they will hear an improvement due to their expectations > based on the hoodwinkery they've been exposed to. > > This is just blatent, shameful scamming of the public. If they were in > the financial or pharmaceutical industry they'd probably be a in jail by > now. Not only is it an effort to extract more money, but it's also IMO yet another effort at DRM enforcement. Add to this e.g. the trend for disappearing 3.5mm jacks on smartphones, the current number one playback device for a whole generation of (admittedly non-audiophile) music "consumers" ... Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Car: BananaPi LMS + Squeezeplayer on Android phone - Controller TBD ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Chips
edwardthern wrote: > Wrong! > > 1) Good cooks don't need to measure 2) Measuring to obtain "DATA" to > justify food A tasting different than food B is not the same as > measuring for a recipe...LOL > > The scenario you mention ie different amounts of ingredients is more > equal to comparing two dacs with different parts or even a different > number of parts. Essentially not apples to apples. 1) Good cooks (who sell the food they prepare) DO measure, to ensure a consistent quality. (Full disclosure: I'm a trained food professional, albeit a baker, pastrycook, chocolatier, glacier) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H Workshop: iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Wherever needed: Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Car: BananaPi LMS + Squeezeplayer on Android phone - Controller TBD ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106575 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit versus 24bit versus dynamic range
Mike Sargent wrote: > Right now I'm listening to Joss Stone (sounds great) and my SPL meter > says I'm only listening at around 75 dB. So that 96 dB (or 110 or > whatever) dynamic range of CD (ripped to FLAC in this case) is > unimportant because I'm never going to listen to it loud enough that it > would matter. > Mike I think this is the most important reply in this whole discussion: Who among us, in a typical living room environment plays loud enough to have the full dynamic range of said symphonic orchestra audible? In Belgium music performances (live and recorded) are legally limited to 100dB(A)LAeq,60min, which means that even when the crowd is really silent, on average only around 60dB remain for the music ... QED: 16/44 is enough to faithfully reproduce a legal music performance in Belgium :) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh-oh, the ethernet/USB cable dispute all over again ...
ralphpnj wrote: The author of the article has absolutely no idea what he's writing about, as evidenced by the following paragraph: There are just so many things wrong that I don't even know where to start so instead of wasting my and your time let's just say that the article is a complete waste of time and be done with it. It's just that I quite like to prick other people's bubbles :D Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102632 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oh-oh, the ethernet/USB cable dispute all over again ...
Some of the more technically gifted care to chime in? http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2014/12/global-feedback-can-ethernet-cables-make-a-difference/ Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102632 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Official SB Audiophile Forum Quantum Audio Fruitloopery List
andy_c wrote: One of my favorite posts over there is '_this_one_by_Cookie_Marenco_' (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f13-audiophile-downloads/sound-better-uncompressed-downloaded-files-6158/#post70764), in which she claims that sound quality of music files degrades when sent by email, and that different file formats have different susceptibility to this problem. :D That would also explain why my boss never seems to understand when I send him an e-mail. If audio is affected, surely a mere Word document is too? Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101564 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Are Audiophiles anal retentive?
I won't go as far as fiddling with somebodies home setup, but whenever I drive someone else's car I can't help but set all tone controls to zero/neutral, deactivate sound effects and deactivate Loudness :) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101552 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Need a little help from the experts...
cliveb wrote: Let's try and be succinct: 1. You have some hi-res files. 2. You have a Receiver, which is limited to 24/48. 3. You have a low-powered server. This combination is far from ideal. You have three options to resolve this: 1. Get a faster server. 2. Replace the Receiver with another Touch. May be difficult and/or expensive to find one now they are discontinued. (Maybe a Wandboard running CSOS would be another option, although synchronization of a Wandboard with your existing Touch may not be good enough for your needs). 3. One-off downsample your hi-res files to 24/48 using a good converter such as SOX. (You might argue that then you'd lose the benefit of them being hi-res. My response to this is why not try it and see? In all likelihood you won't hear any degradation at all). Regarding solution 2: I have the wandboard (wired), a PC running Squeezelite (wireless), a Touch (wired), an Android Tablet and an iPad, and even with more than 2 of them synced in the same room sync is seamless to me, running off the LMS on the wandboard. Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Car stereo with USB stick- off-topic maybe?
My car (Renault Grand Scénic) only sees ± 255 files/folder in ± 255 folders, so I made Mediamonkey create 100 folders (00 - 99) into which it randomly distributes the songs, artwork removed, converted to 192kB/S ABR, ReplayGain hardcoded into the files. This works perfectly for my 16GB sticks and no need to have the headunit handle the random play, as it's unable to do this from all folders at once ... Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101252 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Does It Take To Turn The PC Into A Hi-Fi Audio Platform ?
Given the trust I have for Tom's Hardware in general, that's quite a sobering article :) Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101023 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some publications at least make an effort to keep a semblance of honest ; -)
cliveb wrote: IMHO he's regurgitated a number of dogmas loosely based on a distorted understanding of the facts. And at the end he says he doesn't know why hi-res sounds better than CD, when he has a trivial method of finding out. All he needs to do is take one of his beloved hi-res files, whack it through a decent sample rate converter (eg. SOX) to convert it to 16/44.1, and then ABX the two. He'll find that he will be unable to tell the difference (at normal - or indeed anything less than insane - listening levels). In a sense, this kind of audio journalism is more dangerous than the sort written by the outright loonies, because it seems reasonable to the rational but uninformed reader. I hadn't looked at it that way, but I guess you could be right ... Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100892 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some publications at least make an effort to keep a semblance of honest ; -)
A maybe oversimplified, but at least halfway decent write-up http://www.whathifi.com/blog/high-res-audio-the-science-behind-the-numbers Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; TMA Premium 905; TMA Premium 901; BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) Acer Iconia Tab A700 + Squeezeplayer Wandboard Duallite + CSOS, integrated LMS activated bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100892 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Loudness Wars, a different take ...
As I was reading 'this post on metal-fi' (http://www.metal-fi.com/dynamics-the-numbers-game/) I came across 'this link on Sound-on-Sound' (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep11/articles/loudness.htm). At first read it seems a plausible explanation, but can we really all be wrong? bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98729 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Room acoustics
jezbo wrote: Does your amp have balance tone controls? That's the usual way to tweak the sound according to room acoustics - something modern amp designers often forget in the quest for a trendy minimalist design. It's a Marantz home theater receiver so yes it does. It's got 3 different modes of operation: - Audissey, with all possibilities that entails (automatic set-up, manual tweaking of the curves, distances, ...) - Source Direct, defeats all Audissey functions except Bass management - Pure Direct, defeats all Audissey functions, passes an untreated full range signal to the main speakers When using Pure Direct, music sounds dull and thin in my room. In Audissey mode, deactivating Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ, music does sound more alive, but a touch bass heavy. Source Direct is better with regards to bass, but it's still somewhat dull. I've looked into other forms of room correction (affordable ones that is): Inguz, Behringer FBD, ... but everything I read tells me to first try and physically correct my room. Another problem is that they all seem to necessitate quite extensive measuring, and I can't seem to get the house really quiet for long enough during the day (3 kids, wife, 2 cats, ...) and at night when everybody sleeps the volumes needed for the testing are prone to wake everybody up :D bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98662 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Room acoustics
Following up from my post (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97881-Community-Funded-Squeezebox-Replacement-Would-you-be-interestedp=745995viewfull=1#post745995) in another thread, i'd like some advice on room acoustics, an more specifically, acoustical treatment. The problem: bakker_be wrote: I'm quite happy with what I have, but at times I get this itch to improve, especially knowing that it can sound a lot more alive than it does in my setup. I've already said it in some other thread on here: it seems as though it's lacking in dynamics. I have for instance a bootleg of Richard Thompson at Grand Targhee Bluegrass Festival, which is really amazing. At the store, Touch connected through SPDIF, playing at (subjectively, not measured) the same level, I could really feel each time he hits the strings on his guitar. Same hardware, approximately the same listening distance at home, I can't. It's better when I connect the Touch through analog though ... How could I begin to solve this? Relevant hardware: Touch; Marantz SR-5004;TMA Premium 905; BK Monolith+ FF. If you need any additional info, I'd be happy to provide it :) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98662 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Room acoustics
Pictures taken from my listening/viewing spot, from left to right. Sorry for the less than optimal quality, cell phone pictures. No tidying has been done befor taking them either, as this is the natural state of the environment ;) This part is around 3,5m x 5m, 2,2m high, drywall ceiling directly on wooden roof beams (roof itself is OSB sheets on top of the beams, covered with an isolating layer and weatherproofing), fireplace is also drywall, on metal studs, floor is massive oak on concrete, walls are plastered painted brick and mortar. 14743 14744 This part is 3,5m x 4m, 2,7m high, its where I'm seated, watching across the shortest dimension, around 2,8m from the 50 Pioneer Plasma. Floor is still the same massive oak, the wall behind my back plastered and painted brick and mortar, the wall with the TV is drywall on metal studs, fixed to plastered brick and mortar. Above the TV, against the ceiling there's a MDF-construction, 0,4m deep, 0,15m high along the whole wall, containing halogen lighting. The ceiling is plastered and painted concrete beams. The couch I'm sitting on is around 2,7m long, leather body with corduroy cushioning, like the one in the 1st picture, just longer. 14745 14746 This part is 4m x 4m, 2,7m high, plastered and painted brick and mortar all around. The ceiling is again plastered and painted concrete beams, floor is Belgian Blue stone on concrete, cellar underneath it. Theres another MDF-construction, 0,6m deep, 0,15m high along the whole wall, containing halogen lighting. All cupboards and the table are massive wood, there's pine, teak oak. Above the window ther's a MDF construction hiding the rolling shutter. 14747 There are no doors between these spaces, the dividing wall between my seating place and the right part is also plastered and painted brick and mortar. No drapes as yet, the wife hasn't decided yet what she'd like ;) +---+ |Filename: IMG_20130425_211811.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14747| +---+ bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98662 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Confused by the digital formats
garym wrote: of course. Among other reasons, I'm hoping that eventually, perceptual codecs are good enough that I can create really tiny quality lossy versions of all my 10,000 CDs, and they all fit on a small chip that is implanted in my arm. This will work well when I'm in the old folks home. No DAC, no cables, no speakers. just implant--Brain.;-) +1 ;) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Confused by the digital formats
Julf wrote: At that point contemporary popular music will anyway be reduced to the point where it can all be reduced to a few autotune and drum machine parameters, so it can be regenerated from a few hundred bytes... :) Who's talking about contemporary anyway. I don't even listen to much that's considered contemporary now, probably much less so in 40 years ;) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!
Archimago wrote: Yeah, I think the review is generally fair - no audiophile worship of the awesome 1-bit technology :-). The DAC also looks very nice! However, I would say that his choice of music would not lend to demonstrate DSD's superiority at all (in fact, likely quite the opposite!). Peter Gabriel's So I believe was recorded in PCM and the SACD has a very strong low-pass filter at ~20-21kHz. The 2012 24/48 release I bet would sound better to most people side-by-side plus it's got 3 bonus tracks! Fagen's The Nightfly is well known to have been recorded in 16-bit/50kHz with 3M's digital tape system! Therefore, if you convert that to DSD, you gain nothing in terms of better dynamic range, and in fact likely worsened/colored the sound through the PCM -- DSD conversion. The definitive version would be the 24/48 DVD release from 2007. Now that would be a fascinating comparison - 24/48 vs. SACD with the tester knowing that technically 24/48 should be significantly superior due to nature of the source material! The Immersion Blu-Ray of Dark Side Of The Moon in 24/96 from 2011 is also superior to the 2003 30th Anniversary SACD IMO. Notice the trend here... Since the decline of SACD, better hi-res PCM remasters have been released which renders the old SACD versions moot. BTW, as for Nick Drake - he died in 1974, the recordings on that album are from the late 60's to early 70's. I'm pretty sure standard 16/44 would suffice to capture all that's needed... (I've heard that album in SACD - not blown away.) One final point: You cant blame them file sizes are large (DSoTM is 1.8Gb) and they are presumably still trying to pull customers into the hi-res PCM space, itself a niche within a niche. This renders DSD a niche (super hi-res) within a niche (hi-res) within a niche (digital audio). DSD (specifically DSD64 since this was what he listened to) is IMO categorically NOT super hi-res. At best it's around 24/88... Funny (annoying!) how these folks insist on exaggeration the capabilities of DSD. The fact that he clearly identified the trend for better masters (at least for those willing to read it that way) are actually the main reason I posted this here. I'm blisfully unaware of the exact recording + mastering techniques used for various records, but even in my modest system I can quite easily hear the difference between better masters and what I would consider flawed ones. That doesn't mean they are actually measurably any worse, just that I don't like them, which in the end is what it's all about. This is also the reason why I'm not too unhappy about this Hi-Res trend: with some luck we can have better masters released in these formats ;) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98482 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A few words on the second coming of DSD!
a side by side comparison of redbook DSD, with some quite valid obsrvations IMO, especially the conclusion :) http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/04/auralic-vega-dsd-review/ bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98482 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dan Lavry, design guru new white paper on the Optimal Sampling Rate for Audio!
trott3r wrote: Lo, At 04:35 31/07/2012, Archimago wrote: cliveb wrote: Using the word fashion hits the nail on the head. Extreme compression and peak limiting is the currently fashionable way to master recordings. But as we all know, fashions come and go. Alas, this fashion has been going on now since ~1995! I was shocked recently that the Dark Knight Rises soundtrack has been affected... Unbelievable that a soundtrack score would be compressed so severely ;-( Utterly insane... AFAIK it started with GNRs appetite for destruction 87? 89? Most recordings around 1995 onwards have been compressed in this terrible way. Martin Running MorphOS v3.1 (July 2012) on a PowerPC Powerbook, Moderator of MiniDisc,amithlonopen,bwfc Yahoogroups Interestingly, that same bands latest effort, Chinese Democracy, is actually an album with decent dynamics ... bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95771 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
Mnyb wrote: SNIP ... The greatest problem as I see it is the market lock in in small sub-markets with different copyrigths holders . If one could create a global lossless download system with global pricing etc ,the market share would be big enough for real business. The US itself is just big enough to support HD-tracks. Sweden (where i live ) is to small to harbour any lossles download provider , i suspect it is like that in many markets . ... SNIP If you think Sweden is too small, what about Belgium, with it's 3 different language communities :D That said, I can easily see an EC-wide service being viable, especially as I look at the different nationalities present in the audience at Belgian music festivals. bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
As a European music lover, I mostly object to the so-called convenience of iTunes or any other service: it's almost impossible for me to get good music legally + lossless. Quite a lot of the stuff on hdtracks for instance is interesting to me, but strictly speaking I'm forbidden to buy it, as I'm not a US citizen. The offerings of Linn etc are somewhat too esoteric for my tastes, and there's only so much classical music I can take. This means that the music industry is forcing me to keep buying physical media, which I then have to rip, tag, scan for ReplayGain, scan for MusicIP ... I still do this, but a whole lot less than I'd like to, because: -I only have so much storage space for physical media -It's not convenient -I can't buy from the comfort of my couch at night when the kids are asleep ... This issue isn't caused by the industry alone, the artists as well play a role in it. Bands all over the world tweet about the release of their new albums, and about when they'll be available in iTunes, but when you directly ask them about buying in FLAC, there's nothing but radio silence. Metallica is (partly) an exception to this: almost any show of the last 10 years or so is available for sale as a soundboard recording, in both FLAC MP3, right on their tour site, a couple of days after the performance. No studio material however. I've bought a lot of those already, most recently the recording of the show I went to in Belgium on May 28th and the 4 shows for their 30th birthday. I think we (the public in general, Squeezebox users in particular) should all begin pestering any musician we can get access too to begin making lossless files available. The success of iTunes proves that people still want to pay, but what if nobody sells what you want to buy? bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Master List of HD and Lossless Download Sites..
Mnyb wrote: Sticky, sticky, sticky :P bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95132 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Crossposting between threads ;-)
Anyone her care to chime in on 95119? bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95120 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
All's in my signature actually :) AMP: Marantz SR-5004 Speakers: TMA Premium 905 ( http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html, currently down for remodelling of the site), Belgian speakers using Eton drivers Sub: BK Monolith+ FF (http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/monolith-FF_Plus.htm) I'm playing Pure Direct, using coaxial digital output of the Touch, and I'm really happy with the sound I get. Only bad point is a slight lack of attack, but I think that's mostly due to my being used to near field listening for too long. -- bakker_be http://www.last.fm/user/Bakker_be Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; ' TMA Premium 905' (http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html); BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] official Dynamic Range Foobar plugin
audiomuze;656348 Wrote: SNIP your fb2k plugin. SNIP Just FYI, it's not mine. I just thought I'd pass it along, as the first version is expired. -- bakker_be http://www.last.fm/user/Bakker_be Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; ' TMA Premium 905' (http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html); BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90229 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] official Dynamic Range Foobar plugin
Most of you are probably aware of the loudness wars and of http://www.pleasurizemusic.com/, but there's also a plugin for foobar that calculates the official DR value. The current beta can write it into 2 metadata fields for track DR and Album DR, and by default writes a log file in the album folder. Download here: http://www.jokhan.demon.nl/DynamicRange/index.htm -- bakker_be http://www.last.fm/user/Bakker_be Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; ' TMA Premium 905' (http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html); BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90229 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
John, thanks for looking into this. I'm running SBS. Info: Code: Squeezebox Server Status Version: 7.6.0 - r32799 @ Fri Jul 22 02:05:47 PDT 2011 Hostname: BKSP01 Server IP Address: 192.168.1.2 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Windows 2008 Server R2 - EN - cp1252 Platform Architecture: 586 Perl Version: 5.10.0 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.32_02 (sqlite 3.7.5) Total Players Recognized: 2 Library Statistics Total Tracks: 59,989 Total Albums: 3,615 Total Artists: 5,777 Total Genres: 31 Total Playing Time: 4425:05:05 Music Scan Details Discovering files (64841 of 64841) Complete 00:01:42 Removing deleted files (92 of 92) Complete 00:00:18 Scanning new files (787 of 787) Complete 00:08:28 Scanning changed files (7576 of 7576) Complete 00:20:12 Pre-caching Artwork (3532 of 3532) Complete 00:00:00 The server has finished scanning your music collection. Total Time: 00:30:40 (Tuesday, 2 August 2011 / 14h46) Player Information Information on all identified devices connected to Squeezebox Server Keuken Player Model: SqueezePlay Firmware: 7.5.0-r0 Player IP Address: 192.168.1.4 Player MAC Address: 00:23:06:d9:85:72 Living Player Model: Squeezebox Touch Firmware: 7.6.0-r9458 Player IP Address: 192.168.1.7 Player MAC Address: 00:04:20:22:c1:26 Apart from Trackstat Spicefly Sugarcube I don't run any 3rd party plugins, nor have I modified anything in the SOX-configuration. The album is in FLAC-files, which play correctly using Windows Mediaplayer, foobar Mediamonkey. I've since experienced this with 24/96 files too. I've set Flac back to native in the SBS configuration (see attachment for screenshot), so the Touch should be doing the hard work now if I understand correctly what was in Soundchecks explanations. I do see however that on my server there's a FLAC process running. -- bakker_be http://www.last.fm/user/Bakker_be Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; ' TMA Premium 905' (http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html); BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?
soundcheck;573376 Wrote: Hi guys. As you can see I transform 44.1 into 88.2, which is IMO preferable over 44.1 to 96 on the Touch. Just a small question. I've got some albums that I've bought as 88.2, but my Touch (latest FW with your Toolbox2.0 + DynaudioRules's mods) reports unsupported sample rate. -- bakker_be http://www.last.fm/user/Bakker_be Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; ' TMA Premium 905' (http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html); BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H iPad 32GB Wifi + Squeezepad (local playback activated) bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Phil Leigh;633549 Wrote: The standard advice should be to set your NIC to PLAIN autonegotiate (this will be the default setting - leave it alone!). Do not try and force it to any other setting. Any NIC which does not function correctly on that setting is BROKEN. And sadly, I confirm the NVidia nic IS broken, not physical, but the XP drivers. I have a Cat6 1GB wired network at home, and had a self-built Windows Homeserver on it (1st version, so Windows Server 2003-based, same codebase as XP). Setting the NIC to full autonegotiation would result in the server disappearing from the network completely after some time. I had to disable checksum offload and set it to autoneg for 100FD to make it stay visible, but that resulted in an inability to stream more than 1 Blu-Ray rip simultaneously, so it wasn't acceptable. I've since upgraded to Windows Server 2008 R2 (same codebase as Windows 7) and the server is now quite happily woking at full autonegotiation, allowing my three kids to watch whatever movies they want, while I'm happily listening to my music :D -- bakker_be http://www.last.fm/user/Bakker_be Main System: Touch; Marantz SR-5004; ' TMA Premium 905' (http://tmaaudio.com/premium905.html); BK Monolith+ FF; HDI Dune Smart D1; Pioneer PDP-LX5090H bakker_be's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
