[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How many Maria's......
My grandmother, Francisca, had three Maria sisters. Not unusual except the order Maria, Maria, Francisca, Maria of the four girls matches the pattern exactly for the previous generation Maria, Maria, Francisca, Maria. The first two Marias of my grandmother's generation each married a Manoel Lima. Took years to sort that out. On a related note, I have a few expostas in my ancestry and none of them are named Maria. Is that intentional? Was the name Maria reserved for legitimate children? David On Friday, January 2, 2015 12:15:08 PM UTC-8, Paul wrote: I understand from a previous post that most Portuguese families had one Manuel and multiple Maria's, but four? Dan from Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogy Society sent me a packet a little over a month ago with information on my paternal grandparents families. I knew my great grandparents, the Silva's had eight children but Dan's info said nine. Today I found the missing child (the parents and grandparents match all other baptismo's). The link below is for Maria (#4 in their family) starts on the lower left and continues on the upper right. I see she was baptised on 24 June 1900, was she born on the fourth day of the current month and year? At least that is what I am seeing after her name. *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_item1/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_JPG/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_1900_0016.jpg* http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_item1/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_JPG/SMG-PV-LOMBADOLOUCAO-B-1900-1904_1900_0016.jpg Thanks, Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
Just departures, Mike.Obviously, now is your chance to confirm what I found on your Cedros ancestor to remove any last doubts.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports From: Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com Date: Sat, January 03, 2015 8:32 am To: azores@googlegroups.com do the records keep track of just outgoing or do they do incoming as well?On Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:29:12 AM UTC-5, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:In case of interest, the Horta records are online. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
Can someone tell me how it is listed in the CCA. I know it does not say passports because I have tried to look for them with no luck Thank you Bob Camacho Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciosa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho In a message dated 1/3/2015 9:05:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@dholmes.com writes: It's hard to say, Mike. I would look for that one, too. My grandfather departed for Brasil three times and I found all of them in the passports for Terceira. And then a fourth entry departing to the USA. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 _www.dholmes.com_ (http://www.dholmes.com/) Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports From: Mike _mgilfilian95@gmail.com_ (mailto:mgilfilia...@gmail.com) Date: Sat, January 03, 2015 8:57 am To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Now since I know my relative went home with his new wife and daughter and I have them returning here in NY would that departure be recorded or just the first time when he left originally? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How many Maria's......
David P, David said: On a related note, I have a few expostas in my ancestry and none of them are named Maria. Is that intentional? Was the name Maria reserved for legitimate children? Maybe. I never thought about it. I just went right now to Sao Miguel Arcanjo church (the Matriz - they seem to have more expostos) in Vila Franca on Sao Miguel island and I checked the baptism index for Maria. I looked at the end of the Marias, the beginning of the Marias, Marias born to parents whose name start with P (for Pais incognitos), Marias born to parents whose name start with I (for Incognitos). I didn't see any. I don't know if they weren't indexed or maybe it's one of those rules, like you observed. Next time I'm searching the records, I'm going to remember that and see if it pans out (at least on Sao Miguel where I do most of my research). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
Mike, anytime anyone left, it should be notated in the Passport Records. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: Now since I know my relative went home with his new wife and daughter and I have them returning here in NY would that departure be recorded or just the first time when he left originally? On Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:29:12 AM UTC-5, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: In case of interest, the Horta records are online. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
Here is the site: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/passaportes/Default.aspx If you want to go the long way just tack on /passaportes to the main CCA address. Once it comes up click on Horta and the request, 'pesquisa' button. Once it loads all of the dates are at the bottom in yellow. One clue on the Islands, it looks like they are just writing 3rd for Terceira. Happy Hunting! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Mike - Outbound Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
It's hard to say, Mike.I would look for that one, too.My grandfather departed for Brasil three times and I found all of them in the passports for Terceira. And then a fourth entry departing to the USA.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports From: Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com Date: Sat, January 03, 2015 8:57 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Now since I know my relative went home with his new wife and daughter and I have them returning here in NY would that departure be recorded or just the first time when he left originally? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
Bob C, Rosemarie posted the link. Maybe if I shorten it, it will work better for you. http://goo.gl/L668Sj Pick Horta from the drop down. I'm sure Joao CV will write the code for his Tombo.pt site and we can go from there (you can navigate his site in English whereas the CCA site is in Portuguese). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA STUDY AZORES
The study on Flores indicates that Flores was settled by Continental Portuguese, Madeirans, and Azoreans from all the islands in the Azores but especially Terceira and Gracisosa this is very interesting! I suspect it would be quite a challenge to figure out how I share DNA with my matches from Flores. My closest Y-DNA matches are with two men from Flores although they are distant matches. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genetic Distance on Y-DNA
Thanks for the info. My nephew has one 0 GD match, but the other person has almost no information that can be substantiated about the ancestors of the person who matches. The chart makes it a little easier to explain the match and its significance. Diane George (Silva) From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 5:55 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genetic Distance on Y-DNA Since a few results from the beginning of the Holiday DNA Sale will begin to hit us next week, I thought now might be a good time to go over this. Y-DNA: The top of the pedigree chart. Y-DNA traces a man's father's father's father's line only. All men, all the way back. A man must take this test. If you're a man, you are in luck. If you are not a male, you'll need your brother, your uncle, a male cousin whose father's father's father's line is the one you want. What you get back is a string of numbers. Let's say you are the guy on top and your match is the guy on the bottom. 13 23 14 11 11-14 12 12 12 13 13 29 13 24 14 11 11-14 12 12 12 13 13 29 (Don't get too excited over my example. I used the Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype). What this means is you and your match have what is called a genetic distance of one. Genetic genealogists are a bit acronym obsessed, so they write GD=1. What it REALLY means though depends on the number of markers you test. For a genealogical match, you need to test 37 or more markers (the tests are for 37, 67, and 111 markers). There is nothing wrong with starting at the 12 marker level and upgrading to the 37 or higher marker level as your budget may allow. Just don't expect anything meaningful from a 12 or 25 marker match. Here is Family Tree DNA's handy dandy chart if figuring out if the genetic distance is meaningful or not at the higher marker levels. 37 markers: http://goo.gl/VnivpP 67 markers: http://goo.gl/GAU7zc 111 markers: http://goo.gl/nvG0Hp (FTDNA loves to rearrange things, so I just go to Google and type in: genetic distance markers) My dad has no 37 or 67 marker matches. He has 12 and 25 marker matches, but I have the 12 marker turned off (he is grayed out if anyone matches him). This is under the Settings tab, if anyone gets too many emails about this level of matching. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation
Luci. I had a quick look at the link you enclosed and see that at the time Serafino de Moraes was 33 years old, (worker/labourer) that he was born in Lagoa, S. Miguel and that he is acompanied by his wife Maria da Conceicao, 33 years old and their children: Serafino 12, Maria 7, Jose 3 and Isabel 1. Hope that helps. Happy New Year and God Bless. Hermano From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 11:16:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation To: azores@googlegroups.com Duh, got it, image 3: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P3.html It doesn't look like the are asking for the parents on this one. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation
Thanks to Cheri, I just found the passport record for my grandfather from Faial in 1908. I've been able to work my way through portions of it, but I could use some help with a full translation. He was exposto. I was hoping he may have written or noted something that might give me a hint about his parentage. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. The record is http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/index.html. He is passport number 166 - Serafino de Moraes. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA STUDY AZORES
Thanks Tomas, This study is interesting but it doesn't collect enough samples from the Central and Western Azores. The MtDNA study is much more thorough and fair in that respect although it labels all samples with origins in Africa as African it doesn't differentiate between North African and Sub Saharan African. It would be nice if someone did an updated more thorough study of the Azores studying each island analyzing MtDNA and Y-DNA and Autsomal DNA that was fair as far as the number of samples obtained. The Y-DNA study is not representative of the entire Azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation
Duh, got it, image 3: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P3.html It doesn't look like the are asking for the parents on this one. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How many Maria's......
My mothers generation Maria was also a popular middle name. I've heard of several families where all the girls either had a Maria for a first name or a middle name. No matter what those parents were determined all those girls were gonna be Maria one way or another! *Antonio* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport translation
Luci, What digital image do we click on? The URL you gave starts at the front of the book. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: DNA STUDY AZORES
I got the complete study by scrolling down and clicking on the Blackwell Publishing link, where I got the full file in PDF format and downloaded it: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1469-1809.2004.00147.x/pdf Tomás -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
do the records keep track of just outgoing or do they do incoming as well? On Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:29:12 AM UTC-5, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: In case of interest, the Horta records are online. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA passports
In case of interest, the Horta records are online.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA passports
João CV - I don't see these on your Tombo.pt site. Are they there? I'm accessing via my mobile at the moment. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
Mike - Outbound Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
if I know what day the ship left from the manifest on arrival, what timeframe should I search for in the records there surrounding that date? On Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:29:12 AM UTC-5, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: In case of interest, the Horta records are online. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
It depends on the time period and the history of ships. It took the Mayflower (in the 1600s) 66 days to get from England to Massachusetts. The Titanic (in 1912) was to take about a week. My ancestors came to America in 1901 and 1903 and I think that one of them was about a week and the other I don't remember. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
If I have a ancestor that came in 1908, when should I start looking for their passport. How far in advance would they have applied for a passport? Thanks Snowing in Dartmouth Ma - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 5:21:17 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports It depends on the time period and the history of ships. It took the Mayflower (in the 1600s) 66 days to get from England to Massachusetts. The Titanic (in 1912) was to take about a week. My ancestors came to America in 1901 and 1903 and I think that one of them was about a week and the other I don't remember. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores . -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Children in CCA passport records?
I am beginning to look for my Great-grandmother in the passport records. According to family tradition, she came without her parents. She married in California at age 16. Census records suggest she came possibly as young as 8. Would she be listed individually? I haven't seen any ages that are young. When you are searching, do you look at each name or scan for the correct island and then look at the name? Thank you, Diane -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How many Maria's......
I have 4 Maria's in my Medeiros line that immigrated to Hawaii. I have not been able to find one of the Maria's so far. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:57 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: My mothers generation Maria was also a popular middle name. I've heard of several families where all the girls either had a Maria for a first name or a middle name. No matter what those parents were determined all those girls were gonna be Maria one way or another! *Antonio* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: How many Maria's......
*I have a family of cousins where several of the girls have compound names: Maria Soledade, Maria Celeste, Maria Fatima, Maria Isabel, etc. In the Azores and among family they are usually known by their middle names. When they immigrate to the US, they are invariably known by Maria by non-Portuguese friends. That can be a problem if they live in the same community and usually requires an explanation to the non-Portuguese friends. * *John Vasconcelos* On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:57 PM, A Faria antoniof1...@gmail.com wrote: My mothers generation Maria was also a popular middle name. I've heard of several families where all the girls either had a Maria for a first name or a middle name. No matter what those parents were determined all those girls were gonna be Maria one way or another! *Antonio* -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
I literal start the day before the ship arrives in America. Impossible, but I don't want to miss them. It seems that the ones I've found have been a week to a couple of months before. I don't know the laws for the time. Could one register a year before and then leave? Or was there a window there that you must leave within or reregister? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Children in CCA passport records?
Diane, It depends. If I'm look for a Maria, no, I won't scan the names if I knew the freguesia. If I didn't know the freguesia, I'd have to scan for the name. If it's a more uncommon name, I may scan the records for that. So it just depends. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother
Happy New Year everyone. I've been working on the US side for a while, but am back to crawling the CCA images again. I read the referenced record (No. 47, lower right), as Antonio Correia de Melo son of Antonio Correia de Melo, Senior and Violente Augusta Solidade. I am having a lot of trouble thinking Violente is the correct first name of the mother. Is this the correct transcription? If so, has anyone seen this name before? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894/GRA-SC-GUADALUPE-B-1890-1894_item1/P117.html Thank you! Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother
Bill, I've seen that name before. Don't know the translation. Maybe something like Violet? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother
Looks like. Iola the to e too. I've actually seen it spelled as Violanta. Cheri may be correct that it is the Poruguese version of Violet, Lee Oak Hill, WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: CCA passports
I looked up my immigrant ancestors. One registered 4 months in advance, the other registered 22 days in advance. I really think it just depends. Like I said, I found them by starting the day before. If the ship arrived on Feb. 1, I start looking on Jan. 31 and work my way back in time. I don't want to miss them, even though the ship didn't sail in 1 day. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother
Cheri, Yes, I was thinking Violet also. If I spell it Violente, Google translates it as violent. Not a promising girl name ;-) Thank you, Bill From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother Bill, I've seen that name before. Don't know the translation. Maybe something like Violet? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother
Thank you Lee. I think Violenta may be corrent. Google translates Violet to Violeta. Bill From: Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:42 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother Looks like. Iola the to e too. I've actually seen it spelled as Violanta. Cheri may be correct that it is the Poruguese version of Violet, Lee Oak Hill, WV -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa Baptism - Name of Mother
Violante vs. Violente vs. Violeta...maybe it's the evolution of the same name. Someone who knows better will speak up! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.