Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note, Tavares de Resendes, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Hi Sam, Another tough one... *O individuo a que se refere este registo de nomeManuel Tavares de Resendes, no estado de solteiro, con-traiu casamento neste concelho aos vinte e umde Maio do ano mil novecentos vinte e sete comAdelina(?) de Jesus Sousa de vinte e um anos, solteira,filha de José de Sousa d Rego e Maria José, naturais de N S Purificação Registo(?) nº9 (?)Vila do Porto25 de Julho 1959* Cheri Mello escreveu no dia domingo, 8/09/2019 à(s) 19:02: > I don't read Manuel's status as married. He can't be married if he's > getting married. It doesn't say single and it doesn't look like widowed. > Someone else will have to get that word. > > I'm reading that the date in the text is 21 May 1000 900 20 and 7. Not the > current year. > > Bride is Ana de Jesus something, 20 and 1 years, single, daughter of Jose > de Something do Rego and Maria (would be my guess) Jose, natives of the > referenced parish? Scribe gets crazy at the bottom. > > We need more help on this! > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 10:14 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P44.html >> >> >> >> Top left. I can make out that Manoel Tavares de Resendes marries in this >> concelho on the 21st of May of the current year (1939?) somebody de >> Jesus something, something, daughter of Jose de something Rego and Maria >> Jose ?? natural de parish of Vila do Porto? >> >> >> >> Can anyone confirm and fill in the blanks for me? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> >> <#m_-6137566434015067897_m_-653551437118996_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d7536f0.1c69fb81.93f3d.f6a5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d7536f0.1c69fb81.93f3d.f6a5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_F6OmzASj7YfM3MYYSjeJ1dQPY3tDz0OE%2BvcXaAtjHmog%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_F6OmzASj7YfM3MYYSjeJ1dQPY3tDz0OE%2BvcXaAtjHmog%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfxwEyKV8%3D4Xdpd%3Dsp3ie0XjzvcHtmg%2BDqcs3rGzesDOg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note, Tavares de Resendes, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
I don't read Manuel's status as married. He can't be married if he's getting married. It doesn't say single and it doesn't look like widowed. Someone else will have to get that word. I'm reading that the date in the text is 21 May 1000 900 20 and 7. Not the current year. Bride is Ana de Jesus something, 20 and 1 years, single, daughter of Jose de Something do Rego and Maria (would be my guess) Jose, natives of the referenced parish? Scribe gets crazy at the bottom. We need more help on this! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 10:14 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P44.html > > > > Top left. I can make out that Manoel Tavares de Resendes marries in this > concelho on the 21st of May of the current year (1939?) somebody de Jesus > something, > something, daughter of Jose de something Rego and Maria Jose ?? natural > de parish of Vila do Porto? > > > > Can anyone confirm and fill in the blanks for me? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_-653551437118996_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d7536f0.1c69fb81.93f3d.f6a5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d7536f0.1c69fb81.93f3d.f6a5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_F6OmzASj7YfM3MYYSjeJ1dQPY3tDz0OE%2BvcXaAtjHmog%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Side note, Tavares de Resendes, Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P44.html Top left. I can make out that Manoel Tavares de Resendes marries in this concelho on the 21st of May of the current year (1939?) somebody de Jesus something, something, daughter of Jose de something Rego and Maria Jose ?? natural de parish of Vila do Porto? Can anyone confirm and fill in the blanks for me? Thank you, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d7536f0.1c69fb81.93f3d.f6a5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage 1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
Hi Bill, Hi Bille, In the marge is written : "Pasei certidao deste termo em 20de julho 1795". Abs Philippe Garnier Paris - France https://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Le jeudi 5 septembre 2019 13:09:20 UTC+2, Bill Seidler a écrit : > > Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira > Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html > (bottom > left) > > What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues > Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras > marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel > Lucas. > > Thanks for any help. > > Bill Seidler > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/544dd872-21ad-425f-ba09-44e070200bcc%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Just checked date for “The Golden State” and was rather shocked to be honest. It said it became official in 1968. I’m a native Californian and would have sworn it was earlier than that. Of course, it could have been commonly used though not official prior to 1968. Requires more research. Gayle > On Sep 7, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > California is known as "The Golden State" and Hawaii is "The Aloha State," > but I don't know those terms were in use in 1905ish. Hawaii may have had > another name, but I don't think it was the "Golden State" (since California > had the gold rush in the mid-1800s). I'll have to ask Kalani what he knows > about the history of Hawaii's slogans. Who knows, things evolve over time! > Cheri MelloT > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 2:42 PM Margaret Vicente >> wrote: >> Thanks, Cheri and Angela for the heads up. I was wondering why it was >> coming to me so easy…I read the opposite record. >> >> >> >> As far as I can tell, the place is out of the Country. I’m going to write >> what I see and then translate to I understand it to mean: >> >> >> >> Cheri, the area you highlighted: no lugar de ane nalu na Cidade no estado >> de ourado >> >> >> >> My interpretation: in the Ananalu /Honolulu place, city of the Golden State. >> >> >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> From: Cheri Mello >> Sent: September 7, 2019 5:12 PM >> To: Azores Genealogy >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria >> >> >> >> I still see "lugar da .... da cidade" >> >> >> >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 1:14 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy >> wrote: >> >> Margaret; Thank you. I appreciate your help. >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> From: Margaret Vicente >> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 1:10 PM >> To: azores@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria >> >> >> >> Faleceu na freguesia de São Pedro. He passed away in Vila do Porto Parish >> of São Pedro. >> >> >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Virus-free. www.avast.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d740fba.1c69fb81.5ef1c.4ac2SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_FDigBwVVhjVxqYp_PXAnXL12-emPWKzAOB52g2gWOSkw%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d74242b.1c69fb81.84100.6d60%40mx.google.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_FBionS-HdKLCKsCBF5dnqN2wbv8BFZ%2B087-Y29h2gkWg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/D1F1E126-8F69-453B-9956-DB085732145C%40aol.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Hi Margaret, Just to be sure, you read the sidenote for # 29? It looks like it says something as "Cidade", that's really twisting my head... 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 21:14: > Margaret; Thank you. I appreciate your help. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Margaret Vicente > *Sent: *Saturday, September 7, 2019 1:10 PM > *To: *azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa > Maria > > > > Faleceu na freguesia de São Pedro. He passed away in Vila do Porto Parish > of São Pedro. > > > > Margaret > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_404909891147390_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d740fba.1c69fb81.5ef1c.4ac2SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d740fba.1c69fb81.5ef1c.4ac2SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfscLkYfk_GKcucVh3qtziqvZfFBbfviYXh9Wo0cAL%3Dxg%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Margaret; Thank you. I appreciate your help. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Margaret Vicente Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 1:10 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria Faleceu na freguesia de São Pedro. He passed away in Vila do Porto Parish of São Pedro. Margaret --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d740fba.1c69fb81.5ef1c.4ac2SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Faleceu na freguesia de São Pedro. He passed away in Vila do Porto Parish of São Pedro. Margaret Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2019, at 1:10 PM, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > Thanks for your input Cheri and for giving a shout out to cousin Trish! > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > From: Cheri Mello > Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 10:47 AM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria > > Lugar de Scribble Scrabble. It looks like 2 words, but may be one. Tish > Meals, do you have a contact on Santa Maria who might be more familiar with > the local neighborhoods of Santa Maria? > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:23 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > Angela, Thank you for this. Really appreciate getting her parents names. > > Can anyone else make out what it says after faleceu no lugar? > > I’ll find the link to the other one and send it on. > > Thanks again, > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > From: Ângela Loura > Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:28 PM > To: azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria > > Hard to read. > > - Foi-lhe passada a cédula pessoal nº 161842. Vila do Porto, 9 de Outubro de > 1924 (signature) > - the next i don't understand what it says after «faleceu no lugar (???...)». > The wife was indeed Maria do Espirito Santo Resendes, her father looks like > Francisco Resendes Curvelo and the mother Aurélia/Amélia Izabel Coelho. The > date looks like «catorze de novembro de 1927». signed Vila do Porto 15 Nov > 1927. > > 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no > dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 01:23: > Need help with this side note please. I think it says Manoel dos Reis6 died > while married to Maria de Espiritu Santo Resendes but; I can’t find the death > date and I think I see another name in there but; not sure what it is or who > it is. I see 15 Nov 1924 at the bottom but; he was born 29 Oct 1900. Did he > die shortly after marrying? Thanks everyone for your help. It’s #29 Manoel, > bottom right and on to next page. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P18.html > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfhG09oaD-Squdbq7T64-Et%2BMxiFZoo-4cv8mZpNKUbXg%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73d963.1c69fb81.a69fb.054eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EGjSpwrhjFB-c2jiVwFS-nBF61VKF%2BGw9wB7wbOtZDhg%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73e498.1c69fb81.881d2.ba57SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5E6D5F82-1A54-4320-83E8-84F9024C3C23%40gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, ViladoPorto, Santa Maria 1901
Thanks Cheri! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 10:54 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, ViladoPorto, Santa Maria 1901 Yes, you have the margin note correct. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:34 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Sorry Angela and everyone. Here’s the link: - http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P31.html Need someone to check that I have the information correct. I see: #14 Angelina. Angelina married Joaquim de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? Thank you for checking this for me, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:10 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, Vila doPorto, Santa Maria 1901 Hi Sam, the link is missing 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 02:53: #14 Angelina. Do I have he side note correct. Angelina married Joaquim de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? Thanks for double checking this for me. I think I’m getting a bit better at these side notes. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfya2uV8sQowQ%2BSyg0GEZ6X2Auyu1Gj35RcWCOjTmx1MA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73dc19.1c69fb81.af2e9.8441SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_F-7LiUis8-vUtBvbw_sFXM8vurf8KEvpKuWY8P1anDKw%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73eda6.1c69fb81.2f4f3.4687SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Thanks for your input Cheri and for giving a shout out to cousin Trish! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2019 10:47 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria Lugar de Scribble Scrabble. It looks like 2 words, but may be one. Tish Meals, do you have a contact on Santa Maria who might be more familiar with the local neighborhoods of Santa Maria? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:23 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Angela, Thank you for this. Really appreciate getting her parents names. Can anyone else make out what it says after faleceu no lugar? I’ll find the link to the other one and send it on. Thanks again, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:28 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria Hard to read. - Foi-lhe passada a cédula pessoal nº 161842. Vila do Porto, 9 de Outubro de 1924 (signature) - the next i don't understand what it says after «faleceu no lugar (???...)». The wife was indeed Maria do Espirito Santo Resendes, her father looks like Francisco Resendes Curvelo and the mother Aurélia/Amélia Izabel Coelho. The date looks like «catorze de novembro de 1927». signed Vila do Porto 15 Nov 1927. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 01:23: Need help with this side note please. I think it says Manoel dos Reis6 died while married to Maria de Espiritu Santo Resendes but; I can’t find the death date and I think I see another name in there but; not sure what it is or who it is. I see 15 Nov 1924 at the bottom but; he was born 29 Oct 1900. Did he die shortly after marrying? Thanks everyone for your help. It’s #29 Manoel, bottom right and on to next page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P18.html Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfhG09oaD-Squdbq7T64-Et%2BMxiFZoo-4cv8mZpNKUbXg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73d963.1c69fb81.a69fb.054eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EGjSpwrhjFB-c2jiVwFS-nBF61VKF%2BGw9wB7wbOtZDhg%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73e498.1c69fb81.881d2.ba57SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, Vila doPorto, Santa Maria 1901
Yes, you have the margin note correct. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:34 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Sorry Angela and everyone. Here’s the link: - > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P31.html > > > > Need someone to check that I have the information correct. I see: #14 > Angelina. Angelina married Joaquim de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only > 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? > > Thank you for checking this for me, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Ângela Loura > *Sent: *Friday, September 6, 2019 8:10 PM > *To: *azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, > Vila doPorto, Santa Maria 1901 > > > > Hi Sam, the link is missing > > > > 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu > no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 02:53: > > #14 Angelina. Do I have he side note correct. Angelina married Joaquim > de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. > Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? > > > > Thanks for double checking this for me. I think I’m getting a bit better > at these side notes. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfya2uV8sQowQ%2BSyg0GEZ6X2Auyu1Gj35RcWCOjTmx1MA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfya2uV8sQowQ%2BSyg0GEZ6X2Auyu1Gj35RcWCOjTmx1MA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73dc19.1c69fb81.af2e9.8441SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73dc19.1c69fb81.af2e9.8441SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_F-7LiUis8-vUtBvbw_sFXM8vurf8KEvpKuWY8P1anDKw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Lugar de Scribble Scrabble. It looks like 2 words, but may be one. Tish Meals, do you have a contact on Santa Maria who might be more familiar with the local neighborhoods of Santa Maria? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:23 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Angela, Thank you for this. Really appreciate getting her parents names. > > > > Can anyone else make out what it says after *faleceu no lugar?* > > > > I’ll find the link to the other one and send it on. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Ângela Loura > *Sent: *Friday, September 6, 2019 8:28 PM > *To: *azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa > Maria > > > > Hard to read. > > > > - *Foi-lhe passada a cédula pessoal nº 161842. Vila do Porto, 9 de > Outubro de 1924 (signature)* > - the next i don't understand what it says after «faleceu no lugar > (???...)». The wife was indeed Maria do Espirito Santo Resendes, her father > looks like Francisco Resendes Curvelo and the mother Aurélia/Amélia Izabel > Coelho. The date looks like «catorze de novembro de 1927». signed Vila do > Porto 15 Nov 1927. > > > > 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu > no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 01:23: > > Need help with this side note please. I think it says Manoel dos Reis6 > died while married to Maria de Espiritu Santo Resendes but; I can’t find > the death date and I think I see another name in there but; not sure what > it is or who it is. I see 15 Nov 1924 at the bottom but; he was born 29 > Oct 1900. Did he die shortly after marrying? Thanks everyone for your > help. It’s #29 Manoel, bottom right and on to next page. > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P18.html > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfhG09oaD-Squdbq7T64-Et%2BMxiFZoo-4cv8mZpNKUbXg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfhG09oaD-Squdbq7T64-Et%2BMxiFZoo-4cv8mZpNKUbXg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73d963.1c69fb81.a69fb.054eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73d963.1c69fb81.a69fb.054eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EGjSpwrhjFB-c2jiVwFS-nBF61VKF%2BGw9wB7wbOtZDhg%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, Vila doPorto, Santa Maria 1901
Sorry Angela and everyone. Here’s the link: - http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P31.html Need someone to check that I have the information correct. I see: #14 Angelina. Angelina married Joaquim de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? Thank you for checking this for me, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 8:10 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, Vila doPorto, Santa Maria 1901 Hi Sam, the link is missing 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 02:53: #14 Angelina. Do I have he side note correct. Angelina married Joaquim de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? Thanks for double checking this for me. I think I’m getting a bit better at these side notes. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfya2uV8sQowQ%2BSyg0GEZ6X2Auyu1Gj35RcWCOjTmx1MA%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d73dc19.1c69fb81.af2e9.8441SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Hard to read. - *Foi-lhe passada a cédula pessoal nº 161842. Vila do Porto, 9 de Outubro de 1924 (signature)* - the next i don't understand what it says after «faleceu no lugar (???...)». The wife was indeed Maria do Espirito Santo Resendes, her father looks like Francisco Resendes Curvelo and the mother Aurélia/Amélia Izabel Coelho. The date looks like «catorze de novembro de 1927». signed Vila do Porto 15 Nov 1927. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 01:23: > Need help with this side note please. I think it says Manoel dos Reis6 > died while married to Maria de Espiritu Santo Resendes but; I can’t find > the death date and I think I see another name in there but; not sure what > it is or who it is. I see 15 Nov 1924 at the bottom but; he was born 29 > Oct 1900. Did he die shortly after marrying? Thanks everyone for your > help. It’s #29 Manoel, bottom right and on to next page. > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P18.html > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_-4140410663491173323_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfhG09oaD-Squdbq7T64-Et%2BMxiFZoo-4cv8mZpNKUbXg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria 1901
Hi Sam, the link is missing 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia sábado, 7/09/2019 à(s) 02:53: > #14 Angelina. Do I have he side note correct. Angelina married Joaquim > de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. > Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? > > > > Thanks for double checking this for me. I think I’m getting a bit better > at these side notes. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_-7551938761990932082_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFfya2uV8sQowQ%2BSyg0GEZ6X2Auyu1Gj35RcWCOjTmx1MA%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Double checking sidenote Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria 1901
#14 Angelina. Do I have he side note correct. Angelina married Joaquim de Moura on 17 Nov 1917. She was only 17. Joaquim died 20 Mar 1963. Angelina die 10 Dec 1981? Thanks for double checking this for me. I think I’m getting a bit better at these side notes. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d730da2.1c69fb81.950c8.43daSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] 1900's Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Need help with this side note please. I think it says Manoel dos Reis6 died while married to Maria de Espiritu Santo Resendes but; I can’t find the death date and I think I see another name in there but; not sure what it is or who it is. I see 15 Nov 1924 at the bottom but; he was born 29 Oct 1900. Did he die shortly after marrying? Thanks everyone for your help. It’s #29 Manoel, bottom right and on to next page. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1906_item1/P18.html Sam (Mazatlán, MX) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d72f899.1c69fb81.27654.403dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunesmarriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
The first name of the Groom’s father is Ascensso [currently, Ascenso] Margaret v From: JR Sent: September 5, 2019 9:37 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunesmarriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira After seeing your comments, Doreen, I revisited and agree, the name is Fructuozo. Just goes to show, I shouldn't be so hasty. JR On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote: I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras, Hope this helps, Doreen Caetano Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bill Seidler Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 4:09 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html (bottom left) What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel Lucas. Thanks for any help. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5c8968ae-07b2-4a80-a7fa-ac2ff70ac2af%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d7153b7.1c69fb81.5f386.a0d7%40mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunesmarriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
Thank you both. This is the answer I was hoping for since it matches another record. I have never seen this "Piz" before but was sure it couldn't be Pereira as the index said. Bill On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 6:58:56 AM UTC-7, doreencaetano wrote: > > Look, I’m wrong so many times and would have the worst datebase if it > wasn’t for this group’s constant assistance. This just happened to be part > of a line that I had Joao Ventura do for me so I was sure it was correct. > > D > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *JR > *Sent: *Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:37 AM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida > Nunesmarriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira > > > > After seeing your comments, Doreen, I revisited and agree, the name is > Fructuozo. Just goes to show, I shouldn't be so hasty. > > > > JR > > On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote: > > I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias > of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras, > > Hope this helps, > > Doreen Caetano > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Bill Seidler > *Sent: *Thursday, September 5, 2019 4:09 AM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes > marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira > > > > Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira > Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html > (bottom > left) > > > > What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues > Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras > marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel > Lucas. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Bill Seidler > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azo...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azo...@googlegroups.com . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5c8968ae-07b2-4a80-a7fa-ac2ff70ac2af%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5c8968ae-07b2-4a80-a7fa-ac2ff70ac2af%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/4a68bc6f-2625-4b2f-8d65-156c52c207eb%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunesmarriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
Look, I’m wrong so many times and would have the worst datebase if it wasn’t for this group’s constant assistance. This just happened to be part of a line that I had Joao Ventura do for me so I was sure it was correct. D Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: JR Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 6:37 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunesmarriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira After seeing your comments, Doreen, I revisited and agree, the name is Fructuozo. Just goes to show, I shouldn't be so hasty. JR On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote: I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras, Hope this helps, Doreen Caetano Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bill Seidler Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 4:09 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html (bottom left) What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel Lucas. Thanks for any help. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5c8968ae-07b2-4a80-a7fa-ac2ff70ac2af%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d71149c.1c69fb81.b365.80f9%40mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
After seeing your comments, Doreen, I revisited and agree, the name is Fructuozo. Just goes to show, I shouldn't be so hasty. JR On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 8:58:20 AM UTC-4, doreencaetano wrote: > > I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias > of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras, > > Hope this helps, > > Doreen Caetano > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Bill Seidler > *Sent: *Thursday, September 5, 2019 4:09 AM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes > marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira > > > > Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira > Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html > (bottom > left) > > > > What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues > Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras > marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel > Lucas. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > Bill Seidler > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azo...@googlegroups.com . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5c8968ae-07b2-4a80-a7fa-ac2ff70ac2af%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage 1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
I would say that is Francisco Piz (Pires) filho de Encensso (Asenco) Roiz Vra. Check page 56 and you will see Joao Pereira filho de Mel Piz Pereira to compare. It is clear that Piz and Pr.a Pereira are different. JR On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 7:09:20 AM UTC-4, Bill Seidler wrote: > > Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira > Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html > (bottom > left) > > What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues > Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras > marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel > Lucas. > > Thanks for any help. > > Bill Seidler > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9477b242-9cba-42bf-9c0e-f44ec7e1b039%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
I have Frutuoso Pires, son of Asencao Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias of the church Santa Barbara in Nove Ribeiras, Hope this helps, Doreen Caetano Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bill Seidler Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2019 4:09 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage1643, Vila Nova, Terceira Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html (bottom left) What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel Lucas. Thanks for any help. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d710667.1c69fb81.e3ef0.6085%40mx.google.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need groom's name on Margarida Nunes marriage 1643, Vila Nova, Terceira
Any suggestions on the groom's name on this marriage. The Terceira Marriage index says Francisco Pereira, but I have my doubts. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673/TER-PV-VILANOVA-C-1594-1673_item1/P56.html (bottom left) What I do see is that on 2 Feb 1643 ??? ???, son of Capt. ??? Rodrigues Vieira and Catarina Dias, residents of Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras marrying Margarida Nunes, daughter of Andre Afonso and his wife Isabel Lucas. Thanks for any help. Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/23c242af-4105-4653-9b71-0cc982000361%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Filomena Martins. Joao Correia de Bettencourt and Margarida, Maria, and Olinda
00 Feteira, Faial - death ?) and >>>> *Olinda*(date >>>>?, Feteira, Faial - death ?) >>>>- The NEHGS site includes a marriage record for Margarida and >>>>Joao in New Bedford in 1896. This Joao is the son of Manuel Correa (sp >>>>error?) Bettencourt and Francisca Josefa. >>>>- It looks like both Joao's have parents wtih the same given >>>>names. Thus my question about whether they are one in the same man. >>>> >>>> *Questions: Would the NEPS note below suggest that there is more >>>> information available than what is shown on NEPS? If so, how would I go >>>> about acquiring it?* >>>> >>>>- The NEPS page for Margarida's father-in-law, Manuel Correia de >>>>Bettencourt, has the following note at the bottom of the page. NOTA: >>>>Qualquer interessado neste ramo, poderá fazer as suas pesquisas através >>>> do >>>>site de genealogia do NEPS, da Universidade do Minho, onte consta >>>> umavasta >>>>ascendência deste casal. >>>> >>>> Thanks for taking the time to read this e-mail and for any help you >>>> might be able to provide. >>>> >>>> Deb >>>> >>>> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!* >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/AXyLtpnKW_4/unsubscribe. >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/e0d663ab-cc9a-4152-a12d-515f86f764bf%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/e0d663ab-cc9a-4152-a12d-515f86f764bf%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5b689cf8-a89d-4e60-85f7-cebbbab63b38%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Filomena Martins. Joao Correia de Bettencourt and Margarida, Maria, and Olinda
Awesome work. Thanks for sharing. How do I get the marriage logs? Is this readily available? Also, I do know that Margarida had many more children. I believe the first was Ursula and possibly born shortly after their marriage, before going back. My have been what prompted them to go 'home'. I have not been able to find anything on an infant birth. Any tips on finding this? Maria On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 12:40 AM Bill Seidler wrote: > I don’t know this family but was bored so decided to do some detective > work. Here are my results: > > > I believe they married brothers. Filomena married João and Margarida > married José. These brothers are from São João, Lajes, Pico: > > > José’s baptism bottom left > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875_item1/P192.html > > João’s baptism bottom right > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875_item1/P103.html > > > Margarida and José returned to Faial, Margarida’s home and had a daughter, > Maria, in 1900. Her baptism may have originally reported and incorrect > father’s name. It seems to have two pen-and-ink corrections: one changing > the birth month to March on page 2, line 2 and one changing the father’s > name from João to José on the third line. My belief is that NEPS > transcribed João but José was the correct one which would explain the > confusion. > > > Maria’s baptism: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903_item1/P130.html > (bottom right continuing on next page) > > > They had another daughter Olinda that gave the correct father’s name from > the start. Both of these baptisms indicate the parents were married in New > Bedford. > > Olinda’s baptism: > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903_item1/P180.html > (bottom left) > > > Also, if you have access to New Bedford’s marriage logs, you can see that > in 1891 Filomena married João and in 1896 Margarida married José. > > I hope this helps. > > Bill Seidler > > On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 7:34:20 PM UTC-7, lunamarc wrote: >> >> I came across this and need to correct the fact that Joao is NOT Jose. It >> is like saying John is Joseph. My Great Grandfather is Jose, not Joao. I >> tried to fix this on the CITCEM site as I noted it was there incorrectly >> but it just wouldn't let me. I know it's been a while since this was posted >> so I hope you have that worked out by now. ;) >> >> On Saturday, September 1, 2012 at 6:48:56 PM UTC-4, DBM wrote: >>> >>> I am hoping group members might be able to help me with two topics. >>> >>> >>> *Questions: Does anyone know anything about the families below? Did >>> the two sisters, Filomena and Margarida, marry the same man or are these >>> different men? How should I proceed?* >>> >>> >>>- The NEPS site for Feteira, Faial lists my grandfather's sister: >>>*Filomena* (1870 Feteira, Faial - 1955 Feteira, Faial), daughter of *Jose >>>Francisco Martins* and *Virginia Emilia. * >>>- The NEGHS site includes a marriage record for *Filomena* and her >>>spouse, *Joao Correia*, of Pico. The couple was married in 1891 in >>>New Bedford. Per the marriage cert, Joao is the son of "*Manuel >>>C."* and "*Francisca J.* " Filomena's parents' names agree with the >>>info in the first bullet. >>>- Filomena had a younger sister, *Margarida Martins* (1875 Feteira, >>>Faial - death ?) Margarida was married in New Bedford, MA to *Joao >>>Correia de Bettencourt* (1866 Sao Joao, Pico - death ?) They had two >>>daughters, *Maria* (1900 Feteira, Faial - death ?) and *Olinda*(date >>>?, Feteira, Faial - death ?) >>>- The NEHGS site includes a marriage record for Margarida and >>>Joao in New Bedford in 1896. This Joao is the son of Manuel Correa (sp >>>error?) Bettencourt and Francisca Josefa. >>>- It looks like both Joao's have parents wtih the same given names. >>>Thus my question about whether they are one in the same man. >>> >>> *Questions: Would the NEPS note below suggest that there is more >>> information available than what is shown on NEPS? If so, how would I go >>> about acquiring it?* >>> >>>- The NEPS page for Margarida's father-in-law, Manuel Correia de >>>Bettencourt, has the following note at the bottom of the
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alves/Alvaro Carvalho and Ferreira Drummond
For what it is worth…I have Joao Escorcio’s daughter, Branca Afonso Escorcia Drummond, married to Belchior Goncalves Ferreira. Branca and Belchior have a daughter named Isabel Afonso de Azevedo. This information came from an online Drummond tree. There is a research group especially for the Drummond family. I did not have Isabel’s marriage. Did you find the church record? What is your source for this marriage information? Sincerely. Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 1:16 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Alves/Alvaro Carvalho and Ferreira Drummond NOTE: Posts older than 30 days are "closed" and a new thread needs to be started. Repost for Marcia, marcia.guralski at gmail.com Antao Alvaro Carvalho, I found as Antao Alves Carvalho Married with Isabel Ferreira Drumond, Grandduaghter of Joao Escorcio (parents: John Drumond and Elizabeth Sinclair), Am I correct? is the same person? thanks a million, Marcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EiZpLs_rkrN2ptFt7DyQoCzr2v2od%2BmwW705ykLOBEBQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6fc633.1c69fb81.aee7e.dbbd%40mx.google.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Filomena Martins. Joao Correia de Bettencourt and Margarida, Maria, and Olinda
I don’t know this family but was bored so decided to do some detective work. Here are my results: I believe they married brothers. Filomena married João and Margarida married José. These brothers are from São João, Lajes, Pico: José’s baptism bottom left http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875_item1/P192.html João’s baptism bottom right http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1860-1875_item1/P103.html Margarida and José returned to Faial, Margarida’s home and had a daughter, Maria, in 1900. Her baptism may have originally reported and incorrect father’s name. It seems to have two pen-and-ink corrections: one changing the birth month to March on page 2, line 2 and one changing the father’s name from João to José on the third line. My belief is that NEPS transcribed João but José was the correct one which would explain the confusion. Maria’s baptism: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903_item1/P130.html (bottom right continuing on next page) They had another daughter Olinda that gave the correct father’s name from the start. Both of these baptisms indicate the parents were married in New Bedford. Olinda’s baptism: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903/FAL-HT-FETEIRA-B-1896-1903_item1/P180.html (bottom left) Also, if you have access to New Bedford’s marriage logs, you can see that in 1891 Filomena married João and in 1896 Margarida married José. I hope this helps. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 7:34:20 PM UTC-7, lunamarc wrote: > > I came across this and need to correct the fact that Joao is NOT Jose. It > is like saying John is Joseph. My Great Grandfather is Jose, not Joao. I > tried to fix this on the CITCEM site as I noted it was there incorrectly > but it just wouldn't let me. I know it's been a while since this was posted > so I hope you have that worked out by now. ;) > > On Saturday, September 1, 2012 at 6:48:56 PM UTC-4, DBM wrote: >> >> I am hoping group members might be able to help me with two topics. >> >> >> *Questions: Does anyone know anything about the families below? Did the >> two sisters, Filomena and Margarida, marry the same man or are these >> different men? How should I proceed?* >> >> >>- The NEPS site for Feteira, Faial lists my grandfather's sister: >>*Filomena* (1870 Feteira, Faial - 1955 Feteira, Faial), daughter of *Jose >>Francisco Martins* and *Virginia Emilia. * >>- The NEGHS site includes a marriage record for *Filomena* and her >>spouse, *Joao Correia*, of Pico. The couple was married in 1891 in >>New Bedford. Per the marriage cert, Joao is the son of "*Manuel C."* >>and "*Francisca J.* " Filomena's parents' names agree with the info >>in the first bullet. >>- Filomena had a younger sister, *Margarida Martins* (1875 Feteira, >>Faial - death ?) Margarida was married in New Bedford, MA to *Joao >>Correia de Bettencourt* (1866 Sao Joao, Pico - death ?) They had two >>daughters, *Maria* (1900 Feteira, Faial - death ?) and *Olinda*(date >>?, Feteira, Faial - death ?) >>- The NEHGS site includes a marriage record for Margarida and Joao in >>New Bedford in 1896. This Joao is the son of Manuel Correa (sp error?) >>Bettencourt and Francisca Josefa. >>- It looks like both Joao's have parents wtih the same given names. >>Thus my question about whether they are one in the same man. >> >> *Questions: Would the NEPS note below suggest that there is more >> information available than what is shown on NEPS? If so, how would I go >> about acquiring it?* >> >>- The NEPS page for Margarida's father-in-law, Manuel Correia de >>Bettencourt, has the following note at the bottom of the page. NOTA: >>Qualquer interessado neste ramo, poderá fazer as suas pesquisas através >> do >>site de genealogia do NEPS, da Universidade do Minho, onte consta >> umavasta >>ascendência deste casal. >> >> Thanks for taking the time to read this e-mail and for any help you might >> be able to provide. >> >> Deb >> >> *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!* >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/e0d663ab-cc9a-4152-a12d-515f86f764bf%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Filomena Martins. Joao Correia de Bettencourt and Margarida, Maria, and Olinda
I came across this and need to correct the fact that Joao is NOT Jose. It is like saying John is Joseph. My Great Grandfather is Jose, not Joao. I tried to fix this on the CITCEM site as I noted it was there incorrectly but it just wouldn't let me. I know it's been a while since this was posted so I hope you have that worked out by now. ;) On Saturday, September 1, 2012 at 6:48:56 PM UTC-4, DBM wrote: > > I am hoping group members might be able to help me with two topics. > > > *Questions: Does anyone know anything about the families below? Did the > two sisters, Filomena and Margarida, marry the same man or are these > different men? How should I proceed?* > > >- The NEPS site for Feteira, Faial lists my grandfather's sister: >*Filomena* (1870 Feteira, Faial - 1955 Feteira, Faial), daughter of *Jose >Francisco Martins* and *Virginia Emilia. * >- The NEGHS site includes a marriage record for *Filomena* and her >spouse, *Joao Correia*, of Pico. The couple was married in 1891 in >New Bedford. Per the marriage cert, Joao is the son of "*Manuel C."* >and "*Francisca J.* " Filomena's parents' names agree with the info in >the first bullet. >- Filomena had a younger sister, *Margarida Martins* (1875 Feteira, >Faial - death ?) Margarida was married in New Bedford, MA to *Joao >Correia de Bettencourt* (1866 Sao Joao, Pico - death ?) They had two >daughters, *Maria* (1900 Feteira, Faial - death ?) and *Olinda*(date >?, Feteira, Faial - death ?) >- The NEHGS site includes a marriage record for Margarida and Joao in >New Bedford in 1896. This Joao is the son of Manuel Correa (sp error?) >Bettencourt and Francisca Josefa. >- It looks like both Joao's have parents wtih the same given names. >Thus my question about whether they are one in the same man. > > *Questions: Would the NEPS note below suggest that there is more > information available than what is shown on NEPS? If so, how would I go > about acquiring it?* > >- The NEPS page for Margarida's father-in-law, Manuel Correia de >Bettencourt, has the following note at the bottom of the page. NOTA: >Qualquer interessado neste ramo, poderá fazer as suas pesquisas através do >site de genealogia do NEPS, da Universidade do Minho, onte consta umavasta >ascendência deste casal. > > Thanks for taking the time to read this e-mail and for any help you might > be able to provide. > > Deb > > *When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c94acc1b-54c5-4a3a-9267-8ab496e4394f%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
If one of your grandparents is an incognito, you can click Unknown. It basically tells you that they don't want unknowns. From a population geneticist's point-of-view, that makes sense. They are trying to build population samples out of known populations to compare the rest of their customers with. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 6:44 PM lunamarc wrote: > Working on mine right now. One thing, I have an incognito. So, I assume > the same ethnic group and country but not quite sure if same island. Or he > may have been a sailor? > > On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 7:32:03 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) >> >> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, >> asking for background information which they then incorporated into their >> ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That >> was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and >> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in >> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their >> ethnicity estimates. >> >> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, >> Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA >> has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family >> Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), >> or you have a Family Finder test on order. >> >> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as >> the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a >> reference if you are answering for someone else. >> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. >> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: >> [image: image.png] >> >> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. >> >> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the >> test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will >> suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor >> Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group >> affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, >> Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." >> >> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, >> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. >> >> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes >> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of >> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's >> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither >> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend >> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it >> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, >> I put "Born in Kansas." >> >> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate >> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go >> by! >> >> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting >> results.) >> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/24c10965-404d-4a11-b987-7e74d2f859d5%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/24c10965-404d-4a11-b987-7e74d2f859d5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_G%3DSmf7fTwJbU7ZT_LWd16bBYPXbNsoT2cU3MA%2Bc4sCpw%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Working on mine right now. One thing, I have an incognito. So, I assume the same ethnic group and country but not quite sure if same island. Or he may have been a sailor? On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 7:32:03 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) > > A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, > asking for background information which they then incorporated into their > ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That > was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and > Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in > the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their > ethnicity estimates. > > If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal, > Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created > a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder, > transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you > have a Family Finder test on order. > > 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the > test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a > reference if you are answering for someone else. > 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. > 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: > [image: image.png] > > There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. > > It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the > test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will > suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor > Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group > affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, > Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." > > It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, > maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. > > However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes > difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of > hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's > ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither > was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend > of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it > allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, > I put "Born in Kansas." > > So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate > results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go > by! > > (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting > results.) > Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/24c10965-404d-4a11-b987-7e74d2f859d5%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Alves/Alvaro Carvalho and Ferreira Drummond
NOTE: Posts older than 30 days are "closed" and a new thread needs to be started. Repost for Marcia, marcia.guralski at gmail.com Antao Alvaro Carvalho, I found as Antao Alves Carvalho Married with Isabel Ferreira Drumond, Grandduaghter of Joao Escorcio (parents: John Drumond and Elizabeth Sinclair), Am I correct? is the same person? thanks a million, Marcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_EiZpLs_rkrN2ptFt7DyQoCzr2v2od%2BmwW705ykLOBEBQ%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeirinha, Terceira 1682 obit of Francisco Vaz Parreira
Yes we are lucky. I discovered the same kind of records in early Nordeste. It appears in the early days, more affluent people bought plots and were buried in the church. As time went by their descendants couldn't afford their own plots so families asked that they be buried in the plots of their ancestors. Eventually everyone was buried in the public cemetery. JR On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 at 1:26:38 AM UTC-4, Bill Seidler wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687_item1/P14.html > (center > right) > > I just want to confirm what I think this says. Francisco Vaz Parreira > died on 24 Nov 1682 and was buried in the grave of his grandmother Beatriz > Gaspar. If so, this is the first time I've discovered a grandparent this > way. > > Thanks, > Bill Seidler > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/e69c0cbb-945e-43cb-b98f-b161da792090%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Me too… Gordon > On Sep 3, 2019, at 10:23 AM, > wrote: > > Did mine and all the accounts I manage. > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 > > From: MaryAnn Santos <mailto:m...@nyu.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 7:50 AM > To: azores@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA > > Ditto for me! > > MaryAnn > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:27 PM Elaine Mello <mailto:emello1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri. > > All done on my end. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/112dee9a-d860-4e27-bc3a-b56fbb7ce64d%40googlegroups.com > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_d_msgid_azores_112dee9a-2Dd860-2D4e27-2Dbc3a-2Db56fbb7ce64d-2540googlegroups.com-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dfooter=DwMFaQ=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ=O6OfeAffY1zaOvuoZCgyNQ=_YT1aAyzObf5Yq77zy7KAVCtBti8yf15Ftgh-YYISDw=Q37tZJv9oEPL1g0AArTzd9d0hriuWNofVzyb3dziO1w=>. > > > -- > MaryAnn Santos > Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator > Department of Art and Art Professions > NYU/Steinhardt > 212.998.5702 > m...@nyu.edu <mailto:m...@nyu.edu> > > Follow us at > Twitter / @NYUart <https://twitter.com/NYUart> > Instagram / @nyuart <http://instagram.com/nyuart> > Facebook / NYU Art Department > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAGLQU9ZRvEn0d7-wZKFBjzH7_NEgfbNy0-j%2BnTHcCNZ0yPC_Zg%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAGLQU9ZRvEn0d7-wZKFBjzH7_NEgfbNy0-j%2BnTHcCNZ0yPC_Zg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6e9369.1c69fb81.25050.efda%40mx.google.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6e9369.1c69fb81.25050.efda%40mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/4814868B-2749-4F4E-896A-25A45928BEF2%40gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Did mine and all the accounts I manage. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: MaryAnn Santos Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 7:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA Ditto for me! MaryAnn On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:27 PM Elaine Mello wrote: thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri. All done on my end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/112dee9a-d860-4e27-bc3a-b56fbb7ce64d%40googlegroups.com. -- MaryAnn Santos Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu Follow us at Twitter / @NYUart Instagram / @nyuart Facebook / NYU Art Department -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAGLQU9ZRvEn0d7-wZKFBjzH7_NEgfbNy0-j%2BnTHcCNZ0yPC_Zg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6e9369.1c69fb81.25050.efda%40mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeirinha, Terceira 1682 obit of Francisco Vaz Parreira
Hi Bill, Francisco Vaz Parreira (father oh 8 children) is the son of Amador Gaspar and Inês Alveres (documento in the Mitra dos archivos de Angra),The family of Amador Vaz and Inês Alveres (5 children) is decsribed in the Vol. V of Familias da Ilha Terceira : https://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira Abraços Philippe Garnier Paris - France Le mar. 3 sept. 2019 à 11:38, Pat Mello a écrit : > Hi, yes I read the same thing. > > On Sep 3, 2019, at 1:26 AM, Bill Seidler wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687_item1/P14.html > (center > right) > > I just want to confirm what I think this says. Francisco Vaz Parreira > died on 24 Nov 1682 and was buried in the grave of his grandmother Beatriz > Gaspar. If so, this is the first time I've discovered a grandparent this > way. > > Thanks, > Bill Seidler > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/facb9cf8-d0e6-4e01-b6ec-cb13cefe7f61%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/facb9cf8-d0e6-4e01-b6ec-cb13cefe7f61%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/B8AA9E8E-B875-40DF-8BD9-D9B6D59B0AE8%40comcast.net > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/B8AA9E8E-B875-40DF-8BD9-D9B6D59B0AE8%40comcast.net?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAH_FA1jzcvg9A6%2B6JHbZ-5hpi7G1EUqzqU_AJXpvd2E1k0o1TQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Ditto for me! MaryAnn On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:27 PM Elaine Mello wrote: > > thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri. > > All done on my end. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/112dee9a-d860-4e27-bc3a-b56fbb7ce64d%40googlegroups.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_d_msgid_azores_112dee9a-2Dd860-2D4e27-2Dbc3a-2Db56fbb7ce64d-2540googlegroups.com-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dfooter=DwMFaQ=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ=O6OfeAffY1zaOvuoZCgyNQ=_YT1aAyzObf5Yq77zy7KAVCtBti8yf15Ftgh-YYISDw=Q37tZJv9oEPL1g0AArTzd9d0hriuWNofVzyb3dziO1w=> > . > -- *MaryAnn Santos* Senior Advisement and Student Affairs Administrator Department of Art and Art Professions NYU/Steinhardt 212.998.5702 m...@nyu.edu Follow us at *Twitter / @NYUart <https://twitter.com/NYUart>Instagram / @nyuart <http://instagram.com/nyuart>* *Facebook / NYU Art Department <https://www.facebook.com/pages/NYU-Art-Department/53833145389>* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAGLQU9ZRvEn0d7-wZKFBjzH7_NEgfbNy0-j%2BnTHcCNZ0yPC_Zg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeirinha, Terceira 1682 obit of Francisco Vaz Parreira
Hi, yes I read the same thing. > On Sep 3, 2019, at 1:26 AM, Bill Seidler wrote: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687_item1/P14.html > (center right) > > I just want to confirm what I think this says. Francisco Vaz Parreira died > on 24 Nov 1682 and was buried in the grave of his grandmother Beatriz Gaspar. > If so, this is the first time I've discovered a grandparent this way. > > Thanks, > Bill Seidler > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/facb9cf8-d0e6-4e01-b6ec-cb13cefe7f61%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/B8AA9E8E-B875-40DF-8BD9-D9B6D59B0AE8%40comcast.net.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeirinha, Terceira 1682 obit of Francisco Vaz Parreira
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1660-1687_item1/P14.html (center right) I just want to confirm what I think this says. Francisco Vaz Parreira died on 24 Nov 1682 and was buried in the grave of his grandmother Beatriz Gaspar. If so, this is the first time I've discovered a grandparent this way. Thanks, Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/facb9cf8-d0e6-4e01-b6ec-cb13cefe7f61%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Search for birth or baptism seats - Island of São Miguel
Hi Nelson, You need the freguesia, otherwise, you need to hunt through about 70 churches for that 30 year period. You can start the hunt here if you chose to do it: https://tombo.pt/i/sao-miguel I'd try some of the sources here first: http://www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/research-aids-a---l/finding-your-portuguese/ Or turn to DNA. It may not give you the freguesia (or a cousin who has a lost Victorino, son of Joao Jacinto do Couto), but it may give you an area of the island. https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands You want Family Finder. It's on sale through Tues, Sept. 3rd. You'll eventually want to do your Y-DNA as well, but the quickest way to your answer (through DNA) would be the Family Finder product. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 6:36 PM Nelson Couto wrote: > > > I am looking for seats of birth or baptism of my great-grandfather > VITORINO CORDEIRO DO COUTO, natural of the island of São Miguel – Azores, > was the son of João Jacyntho do Couto and must have been born between 1820 > and 1850. > > > Could someone in the group appoint me sources of inquiry? > > > Best regards > > > Nelson Couto. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/df6783e6-f586-4075-86c5-ea1f0b13424a%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/df6783e6-f586-4075-86c5-ea1f0b13424a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_GE4sVGM_cB%2BaSjtYax7UFyD8_5SFWztvNWD2bAunBMqA%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Search for birth or baptism seats - Island of São Miguel
I am looking for seats of birth or baptism of my great-grandfather VITORINO CORDEIRO DO COUTO, natural of the island of São Miguel – Azores, was the son of João Jacyntho do Couto and must have been born between 1820 and 1850. Could someone in the group appoint me sources of inquiry? Best regards Nelson Couto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/df6783e6-f586-4075-86c5-ea1f0b13424a%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
I have a family that used the name Raposo Quintanilha. They were from Ribeirinha, Sao Miguel. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Lee, NH Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of George Sousa Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 6:56 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste Thank you JR! This is the first time I've seen the surnames Albernas and Quintanilha. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:53 AM JR mailto:jmro...@gmail.com> > wrote: "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta Matriz de Sao Jorge a huma menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de Albernas da Costa e sua molher Maria de Torres Quintanilha..." On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:11:21 PM UTC-4, George Sousa wrote: Thanks everyone for your help. Based on you corrections here is what I think it says... "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta Matriz de Sao Jorge a sua menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres..." On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:52 PM Bill Seidler mailto:bsei...@gmail.com> > wrote: I believe Cheri has it all correct. Pedro Furtado Leite is the priest. It says his is beneficiado? em esta (same as nesta?) Matriz. I believe a beneficiado is a position in the clergy. On the top left record on this image it has the same format except the clergy member is Cura Manuel Lopes da Costa. I'm not sure of the three letters after baptizou. My guess is o P.e for o Padre. Bill Seidler On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? Yes on the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. You got the godmother right. Let's see what others have to say. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa mailto:george...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi all, I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this baptismal record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html (fourth entry on the right). Here is what I have so far... "Urcela (Úrsula) Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em esta Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x great grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on November 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents are listed as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/f02582e7-dbf6-44c5-b7a8-b93a6e208fcd%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/f02582e7-dbf6-44c5-b7a8-b93a6e208fcd%
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage relationship help...
Cheri is correct on the maternal grandmother's name. I missed that. Bill On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 2:11:12 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > Groom is 23. Maternal grandmother is Maria da Encarnacao. After the > Conceicao, he says "digo" for "I mean to say" but abbreviates it as "dig." > [image: image.png] > > Bride is 21. > > The priest went to town listing the grandparents. That is rather unusual > and lucky for you! > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:54 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < > jessdeb...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I've been doing pretty well with google translate, but this marriage >> record has so many people listed and I want to be sure of the relationships >> and names. I believe this may show that the Luiz surname was taken from >> the grandfather's FIRST name-- instead of his Souza surname. What do you >> think? Thank you in advance, any help is greatly appreciated. >> >> Link to record #10, top left of page 12, starts bottom right on previous >> page: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html >> >> >> >> Date: 10 June 1861 in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada, Ilha de Sao Miguel >> >> Groom: Manoel Luiz, parents are >> >>Jose Luiz, deceased, son of Luiz de Souza and Marianna de Pimentel >> >>Anna de Conceicao, daughter of Antonio de Souza and Maria de Conceicao >> >> >> >> Bride: Maria de Gloria, parents are >> >>Antonio Cabral, son of Joao de Souza and Maria Joaquina >> >>Theresa Julia, daughter of Francisco Pereira and Maria Magdalena >> >> >> This is the first time I have found ANY surnames other than Luiz for my >> husband's mother who was born in 1909 I want to make sure I am correct >> about the names and relationships. >> >> Is there any other info I am missing. This is a longer marriage record >> than I have seen so far. >> >> Thank you for your help! >> >> Debbie Shepherd Mendonca >> (jessdebmendonca at gmail.com) >> >> Researching: >> 1. Luiz surname on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North >> Kohala, Hawaii, Hawaii >> >> 2. Mendonca and Aguiar Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other >> places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, >> California >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vYvQyJiVFL%3Dh4osZn%3DoOszAW%2Bu2ybQC%2BmQQ_9LyiGbiw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vYvQyJiVFL%3Dh4osZn%3DoOszAW%2Bu2ybQC%2BmQQ_9LyiGbiw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/fc384d4c-bac9-4074-ba21-e10e5e90c4f8%40googlegroups.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need marriage relationship help...
I believe you are correct on everything, at least I see the names and relationships the same as you do. Other useful information might help find the baptisms of the bride and groom. He was 23 years old and baptized in São Roque and she was 21 years old and was baptized in Livramento. Bill Seidler On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 1:54:51 PM UTC-7, Jesse Mendonca wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been doing pretty well with google translate, but this marriage > record has so many people listed and I want to be sure of the relationships > and names. I believe this may show that the Luiz surname was taken from > the grandfather's FIRST name-- instead of his Souza surname. What do you > think? Thank you in advance, any help is greatly appreciated. > > Link to record #10, top left of page 12, starts bottom right on previous > page: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html > > > > Date: 10 June 1861 in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada, Ilha de Sao Miguel > > Groom: Manoel Luiz, parents are > >Jose Luiz, deceased, son of Luiz de Souza and Marianna de Pimentel > >Anna de Conceicao, daughter of Antonio de Souza and Maria de Conceicao > > > > Bride: Maria de Gloria, parents are > >Antonio Cabral, son of Joao de Souza and Maria Joaquina > >Theresa Julia, daughter of Francisco Pereira and Maria Magdalena > > > This is the first time I have found ANY surnames other than Luiz for my > husband's mother who was born in 1909 I want to make sure I am correct > about the names and relationships. > > Is there any other info I am missing. This is a longer marriage record > than I have seen so far. > > Thank you for your help! > > Debbie Shepherd Mendonca > (jessdebmendonca at gmail.com) > > Researching: > 1. Luiz surname on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North Kohala, > Hawaii, Hawaii > > 2. Mendonca and Aguiar Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other > places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, > California > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/fbb81de3-a831-43ed-8afe-32029b5fa8f8%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage relationship help...
Groom is 23. Maternal grandmother is Maria da Encarnacao. After the Conceicao, he says "digo" for "I mean to say" but abbreviates it as "dig." [image: image.png] Bride is 21. The priest went to town listing the grandparents. That is rather unusual and lucky for you! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 1:54 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca < jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I've been doing pretty well with google translate, but this marriage > record has so many people listed and I want to be sure of the relationships > and names. I believe this may show that the Luiz surname was taken from > the grandfather's FIRST name-- instead of his Souza surname. What do you > think? Thank you in advance, any help is greatly appreciated. > > Link to record #10, top left of page 12, starts bottom right on previous > page: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html > > > > Date: 10 June 1861 in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada, Ilha de Sao Miguel > > Groom: Manoel Luiz, parents are > >Jose Luiz, deceased, son of Luiz de Souza and Marianna de Pimentel > >Anna de Conceicao, daughter of Antonio de Souza and Maria de Conceicao > > > > Bride: Maria de Gloria, parents are > >Antonio Cabral, son of Joao de Souza and Maria Joaquina > >Theresa Julia, daughter of Francisco Pereira and Maria Magdalena > > > This is the first time I have found ANY surnames other than Luiz for my > husband's mother who was born in 1909 I want to make sure I am correct > about the names and relationships. > > Is there any other info I am missing. This is a longer marriage record > than I have seen so far. > > Thank you for your help! > > Debbie Shepherd Mendonca > (jessdebmendonca at gmail.com) > > Researching: > 1. Luiz surname on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North Kohala, > Hawaii, Hawaii > > 2. Mendonca and Aguiar Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other > places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, > California > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vYvQyJiVFL%3Dh4osZn%3DoOszAW%2Bu2ybQC%2BmQQ_9LyiGbiw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vYvQyJiVFL%3Dh4osZn%3DoOszAW%2Bu2ybQC%2BmQQ_9LyiGbiw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_E%3DTh3vQU6BCTBnzgdE_Zm6M2Bz34boSTJSJbNpQftHQg%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need marriage relationship help...
Hi All, I've been doing pretty well with google translate, but this marriage record has so many people listed and I want to be sure of the relationships and names. I believe this may show that the Luiz surname was taken from the grandfather's FIRST name-- instead of his Souza surname. What do you think? Thank you in advance, any help is greatly appreciated. Link to record #10, top left of page 12, starts bottom right on previous page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Date: 10 June 1861 in Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada, Ilha de Sao Miguel Groom: Manoel Luiz, parents are Jose Luiz, deceased, son of Luiz de Souza and Marianna de Pimentel Anna de Conceicao, daughter of Antonio de Souza and Maria de Conceicao Bride: Maria de Gloria, parents are Antonio Cabral, son of Joao de Souza and Maria Joaquina Theresa Julia, daughter of Francisco Pereira and Maria Magdalena This is the first time I have found ANY surnames other than Luiz for my husband's mother who was born in 1909 I want to make sure I am correct about the names and relationships. Is there any other info I am missing. This is a longer marriage record than I have seen so far. Thank you for your help! Debbie Shepherd Mendonca (jessdebmendonca at gmail.com) Researching: 1. Luiz surname on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North Kohala, Hawaii, Hawaii 2. Mendonca and Aguiar Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAJ7050vYvQyJiVFL%3Dh4osZn%3DoOszAW%2Bu2ybQC%2BmQQ_9LyiGbiw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
Thank you JR! This is the first time I've seen the surnames Albernas and Quintanilha. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:53 AM JR wrote: > "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis > sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta > Matriz de Sao Jorge a huma menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam > Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos *francisco de Albernas da > Costa e sua molher Maria de Torres Quintanilha*..." > > On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:11:21 PM UTC-4, George Sousa wrote: >> >> Thanks everyone for your help. Based on you corrections here is what I >> think it says... >> >> "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis >> sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta >> Matriz de Sao Jorge a sua menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam >> Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua >> molher Maria de torres..." >> >> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:52 PM Bill Seidler wrote: >> >>> I believe Cheri has it all correct. Pedro Furtado Leite is the priest. >>> It says his is beneficiado? em esta (same as nesta?) Matriz. I believe a >>> beneficiado is a position in the clergy. On the top left record on this >>> image it has the same format except the clergy member is Cura Manuel Lopes >>> da Costa. I'm not sure of the three letters after baptizou. My guess is o >>> P.e for o Padre. >>> >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>> On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? >>>> Yes on the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. >>>> You got the godmother right. Let's see what others have to say. >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this >>>>> baptismal record >>>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html >>>>> (fourth entry on the right). >>>>> >>>>> Here is what I have so far... >>>>> "Urcela (Úrsula) >>>>> >>>>> Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis >>>>> sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em >>>>> esta >>>>> Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel >>>>> Figueira >>>>> foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." >>>>> >>>>> I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x >>>>> great grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on >>>>> November 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents >>>>> are >>>>> listed as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/f02582e7-dbf6-44c5-b7a8-b93a6e208fcd%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/f02582e7-dbf6-44c5-b7a8-b93a6e208fcd%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo9abK4RhKPYNbUzsTTsGTgBErWWwtkBFnggEwxm%3DNi_QQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
"Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta Matriz de Sao Jorge a huma menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos *francisco de Albernas da Costa e sua molher Maria de Torres Quintanilha*..." On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 9:11:21 PM UTC-4, George Sousa wrote: > > Thanks everyone for your help. Based on you corrections here is what I > think it says... > > "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis > sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta > Matriz de Sao Jorge a sua menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam > Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua > molher Maria de torres..." > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:52 PM Bill Seidler > wrote: > >> I believe Cheri has it all correct. Pedro Furtado Leite is the priest. >> It says his is beneficiado? em esta (same as nesta?) Matriz. I believe a >> beneficiado is a position in the clergy. On the top left record on this >> image it has the same format except the clergy member is Cura Manuel Lopes >> da Costa. I'm not sure of the three letters after baptizou. My guess is o >> P.e for o Padre. >> >> Bill Seidler >> >> On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? >>> Yes on the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. >>> You got the godmother right. Let's see what others have to say. >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this >>>> baptismal record >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html >>>> >>>> (fourth entry on the right). >>>> >>>> Here is what I have so far... >>>> "Urcela (Úrsula) >>>> >>>> Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis >>>> sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em >>>> esta >>>> Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel >>>> Figueira >>>> foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." >>>> >>>> I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x >>>> great grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on >>>> November 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents >>>> are >>>> listed as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/f02582e7-dbf6-44c5-b7a8-b93a6e208fcd%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
Thanks everyone for your help. Based on you corrections here is what I think it says... "Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro furtado Leite beneficiado Em esta Matriz de Sao Jorge a sua menina a que foi posto nome urcela f.a. de Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres..." On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 8:52 PM Bill Seidler wrote: > I believe Cheri has it all correct. Pedro Furtado Leite is the priest. > It says his is beneficiado? em esta (same as nesta?) Matriz. I believe a > beneficiado is a position in the clergy. On the top left record on this > image it has the same format except the clergy member is Cura Manuel Lopes > da Costa. I'm not sure of the three letters after baptizou. My guess is o > P.e for o Padre. > > Bill Seidler > > On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? Yes >> on the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. You >> got the godmother right. Let's see what others have to say. >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this >>> baptismal record >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html >>> (fourth entry on the right). >>> >>> Here is what I have so far... >>> "Urcela (Úrsula) >>> >>> Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis >>> sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em esta >>> Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira >>> foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." >>> >>> I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x >>> great grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on >>> November 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents are >>> listed as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-X10m5-rivXksvsqv0bAZbKYqpGU-Hjd1KcCquAqEEQA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
I believe Cheri has it all correct. Pedro Furtado Leite is the priest. It says his is beneficiado? em esta (same as nesta?) Matriz. I believe a beneficiado is a position in the clergy. On the top left record on this image it has the same format except the clergy member is Cura Manuel Lopes da Costa. I'm not sure of the three letters after baptizou. My guess is o P.e for o Padre. Bill Seidler On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 4:47:37 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? Yes > on the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. You > got the godmother right. Let's see what others have to say. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this >> baptismal record >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html >> >> (fourth entry on the right). >> >> Here is what I have so far... >> "Urcela (Úrsula) >> >> Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis >> sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em esta >> Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira >> foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." >> >> I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x >> great grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on >> November 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents are >> listed as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c9414bc3-c918-4da8-8637-a3f92d34b5b5%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
thanks for the head's up on this, Cheri. All done on my end. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/112dee9a-d860-4e27-bc3a-b56fbb7ce64d%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
Yes on the date. I don't know who is Pedro Furtado Leite. The priest? Yes on the parents. I think the godfather is Francisco Alvernaz da Costa. You got the godmother right. Let's see what others have to say. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:26 PM George Sousa wrote: > Hi all, > I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this > baptismal record > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html > (fourth entry on the right). > > Here is what I have so far... > "Urcela (Úrsula) > > Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis > sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em esta > Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira > foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." > > I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x great > grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on November > 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents are listed > as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_FYbZ7u9VgXGTdrP4Pi95O5o17WVupexa7rEy2e4WZ7iw%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Úrsula Leite - Nordeste
Hi all, I could use some help trying to figure out what is going on with this baptismal record http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-B-1675-1706_item1/P51.html (fourth entry on the right). Here is what I have so far... "Urcela (Úrsula) Em os vinte e seis dias do mes de dezembro deste anno de mil e seis sentos e outenta e outo Baptizou o pedro? furtado Leite Con?ficiado Em esta Matrix de Sao Jorge a sua ? a que foi ? ? ? Joam Leite e de Izabel Figueira foram padrinhos francisco de ? da Costa e sua molher Maria de torres ?..." I believe this is the baptismal record of Úrsula Leite (my wife's 7x great grandmother). Úrsula married Amaro Pimentel (or Amaro da Costa) on November 20th 1715 in Nordeste. In the marriage record Úrsula's parents are listed as Joao Leite and Isabel Figueira. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAMjxMo-1BVJeDTAgwHJxYBq-aLL2MhCacHVfGkoY9uuKRNqpsw%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
Thanks Angela, Unfortunately, I don’t have the parents of “my” Custódio yet. I show him married to a Maria Rosa and to a Maria Jacinta. I suspect that the two Marias are the same person but; not sure yet. Thanks again for the additional info. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 11:17 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com; Sam (Camas, WA) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria Sam, Custódio's parents are Francisco Soares de Figueiredo & Francisca Rosa da Fonte, so you can check if it's the same Custódio. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 17:58: Rosemarie; I do have the name Custudio Jose de Figueiredo in my family tree. Unfortunately, he is married to a different woman… I know it could be a different wife of the same guy but; will have to prove it to know for sure. Thanks for your take on the name.. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:49 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria Sam, I'm wondering if it's an old spelling of Custudio/Costudio?? I'll admit I know nothing of Santa Maria names so I'm sure there is someone who knows for sure!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? Thank you in advance for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf8c6.1c69fb81.66c89.c5d5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFc17KX_gU65SKtyEU%2BhrkBWCF0ghRvfTRv5OjjLTYEkxw%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bff17.1c69fb81.9215b.2070SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
Sam, Custódio's parents are Francisco Soares de Figueiredo & Francisca Rosa da Fonte, so you can check if it's the same Custódio. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 17:58: > Rosemarie; I do have the name Custudio Jose de Figueiredo in my family > tree. Unfortunately, he is married to a different woman… I know it could > be a different wife of the same guy but; will have to prove it to know for > sure. Thanks for your take on the name.. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Rosemarie Capodicci > *Sent: *Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:49 AM > *To: *azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria > > > > Sam, I'm wondering if it's an old spelling of Custudio/Costudio?? I'll > admit I know nothing of Santa Maria names so I'm sure there is someone who > knows for sure!! > > > > > > Rosemarie > > rcap...@gmail.com > > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html > > > > Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s > first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? > > > > Thank you in advance for your help, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf8c6.1c69fb81.66c89.c5d5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf8c6.1c69fb81.66c89.c5d5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFc17KX_gU65SKtyEU%2BhrkBWCF0ghRvfTRv5OjjLTYEkxw%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
Thanks for the clarification Angela. Now to find their marriage! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 11:03 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria Hi Sam, Rosemarie is correct, it is Custódio, but written as "Costhodio". Rosemarie Capodicci escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 17:49: Sam, I'm wondering if it's an old spelling of Custudio/Costudio?? I'll admit I know nothing of Santa Maria names so I'm sure there is someone who knows for sure!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? Thank you in advance for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFe0_Qm3dDAwVm8F-d-51aKmEj2UZCzSP%2B327M_g7w3mEw%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bfcd0.1c69fb81.d2ca.abe9SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
Hi Sam, Rosemarie is correct, it is Custódio, but written as "Costhodio". Rosemarie Capodicci escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 17:49: > Sam, I'm wondering if it's an old spelling of Custudio/Costudio?? I'll > admit I know nothing of Santa Maria names so I'm sure there is someone who > knows for sure!! > > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html >> >> >> >> Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s >> first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? >> >> >> >> Thank you in advance for your help, >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> >> <#m_4607309243611890907_m_8763711375613256234_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFe0_Qm3dDAwVm8F-d-51aKmEj2UZCzSP%2B327M_g7w3mEw%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
Rosemarie; I do have the name Custudio Jose de Figueiredo in my family tree. Unfortunately, he is married to a different woman… I know it could be a different wife of the same guy but; will have to prove it to know for sure. Thanks for your take on the name.. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:49 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria Sam, I'm wondering if it's an old spelling of Custudio/Costudio?? I'll admit I know nothing of Santa Maria names so I'm sure there is someone who knows for sure!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? Thank you in advance for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf8c6.1c69fb81.66c89.c5d5SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
Sam, I'm wondering if it's an old spelling of Custudio/Costudio?? I'll admit I know nothing of Santa Maria names so I'm sure there is someone who knows for sure!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 9:43 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html > > > > Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s > first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? > > > > Thank you in advance for your help, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_8763711375613256234_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7%3DCyYURqiLypoqwRmxd%2BM3%2Bg8ERt%3DOc1Ff-Sdo2hKsx8A%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Barbara, Santa Maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1801-1822_item1/P131.html Bottom, left, Joaquina. I only need help with the maternal grandfather’s first name. I’m seeing “something like” Costh??? Thank you in advance for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6bf522.1c69fb81.b03cb.f13dSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, SantaMaria
Margaret and Angela, thank you both! That was really confusing me! I see not that here is an “and” there! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Margaret Vicente Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 8:04 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, SantaMaria It’s actually correct as it is written: “testemunhas, o Avo Materno do Baptizado, e Bernardino Joze de Sousa, Sacristao desta Igreja ..” witnesses, the Maternal grandfather of the baptized and Bernardino Joze de Sousa Margaret From: Ângela Loura Sent: August 31, 2019 9:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, SantaMaria Check the record in the previous pages and the next ones, where Bernardino José de Sousa is refered to as the «sacristão desta igreja», so probably the priest had his mind in another place when he wrote that record. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 02:17: Top Right, Francisco. I’m confused on this one. I think it says that Francisco is the son of Joao Jacinto de Resendes e Jacinta Umbelina. Paternals are: Joao Jose de Resendes e Maria Francisca. Maternals are: Joao Jose da Camara e Antonia Jacinta. Then comes my confusion. Towards the very bottom it looks to me that it says the witness is the baptized baby’s Maternal Ggrandfather: Bernardino Jose de Sousa. Where am I going wrong here? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845_item1/P70.html Thanks for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b1c36.1c69fb81.66c89.b141SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeqpy_h45nxWm3mXCyLcrYWcx%3DjHfWcO-nBonKNrSqZOQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b2711.1c69fb81.85ab5.30d4%40mx.google.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b29bd.1c69fb81.c990b.7658SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, SantaMaria
It’s actually correct as it is written: “testemunhas, o Avo Materno do Baptizado, e Bernardino Joze de Sousa, Sacristao desta Igreja ..” witnesses, the Maternal grandfather of the baptized and Bernardino Joze de Sousa Margaret From: Ângela Loura Sent: August 31, 2019 9:56 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, SantaMaria Check the record in the previous pages and the next ones, where Bernardino José de Sousa is refered to as the «sacristão desta igreja», so probably the priest had his mind in another place when he wrote that record. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 02:17: Top Right, Francisco. I’m confused on this one. I think it says that Francisco is the son of Joao Jacinto de Resendes e Jacinta Umbelina. Paternals are: Joao Jose de Resendes e Maria Francisca. Maternals are: Joao Jose da Camara e Antonia Jacinta. Then comes my confusion. Towards the very bottom it looks to me that it says the witness is the baptized baby’s Maternal Ggrandfather: Bernardino Jose de Sousa. Where am I going wrong here? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845_item1/P70.html Thanks for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b1c36.1c69fb81.66c89.b141SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeqpy_h45nxWm3mXCyLcrYWcx%3DjHfWcO-nBonKNrSqZOQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b2711.1c69fb81.85ab5.30d4%40mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Check the record in the previous pages and the next ones, where Bernardino José de Sousa is refered to as the «sacristão desta igreja», so probably the priest had his mind in another place when he wrote that record. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia domingo, 1/09/2019 à(s) 02:17: > Top Right, Francisco. I’m confused on this one. I think it says that > Francisco is the son of Joao Jacinto de Resendes e Jacinta Umbelina. > Paternals are: Joao Jose de Resendes e Maria Francisca. Maternals are: > Joao Jose da Camara e Antonia Jacinta. Then comes my confusion. Towards > the very bottom it looks to me that it says the witness is the baptized > baby’s Maternal Ggrandfather: Bernardino Jose de Sousa. Where am I going > wrong here? > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845_item1/P70.html > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_-6016990203647901796_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b1c36.1c69fb81.66c89.b141SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b1c36.1c69fb81.66c89.b141SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeqpy_h45nxWm3mXCyLcrYWcx%3DjHfWcO-nBonKNrSqZOQ%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help please: Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto, Santa Maria
Top Right, Francisco. I’m confused on this one. I think it says that Francisco is the son of Joao Jacinto de Resendes e Jacinta Umbelina. Paternals are: Joao Jose de Resendes e Maria Francisca. Maternals are: Joao Jose da Camara e Antonia Jacinta. Then comes my confusion. Towards the very bottom it looks to me that it says the witness is the baptized baby’s Maternal Ggrandfather: Bernardino Jose de Sousa. Where am I going wrong here? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1828-1845_item1/P70.html Thanks for your help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6b1c36.1c69fb81.66c89.b141SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Here's the paternal grandfather. Yours may vary. The first 2 are from a drop down menu (with the red checkmarks). The top one, I started typing "Portuguese" and it came up. The 2nd question, I started typing Portugal and it had a variety, so I picked basic Portugal, because the Azores (and Madeira) belonged to Portugal. The 3rd part (with no check mark) was where I got to put my specific input. So I put Azores there and gave them the island. I'm not sure that they'll go that far with it though. [image: image.png] Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:59 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > Because the Azores, nor Madeira are countries. Portugal is the country. > You put Azores under "Other Group Affliate Details." I put "Born in Azores, > Sao Miguel island." > > I'll do another one and screen shot it. > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:56 PM Rosemarie Capodicci > wrote: > >> This is great except that they are not allowing Azores, Portugal, Azores >> Island, Portugal just Portugal!!! Still is not going to show our correct >> spot on the Portuguese ladder!! >> >> Rosemarie >> rcap...@gmail.com >> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, >> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Cheri Mello wrote: >> >>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) >>> >>> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a >>> survey, asking for background information which they then incorporated into >>> their ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. >>> That was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and >>> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in >>> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their >>> ethnicity estimates. >>> >>> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, >>> Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA >>> has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family >>> Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), >>> or you have a Family Finder test on order. >>> >>> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as >>> the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a >>> reference if you are answering for someone else. >>> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. >>> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: >>> [image: image.png] >>> >>> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. >>> >>> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So >>> the test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it >>> will suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The >>> Azores nor Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for >>> other group affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in >>> the Azores, Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." >>> >>> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, >>> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. >>> >>> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes >>> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of >>> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's >>> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither >>> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend >>> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it >>> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, >>> I put "Born in Kansas." >>> >>> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate >>> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go >>> by! >>> >>> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting >>> results.) >>> Cheri Mello, Family
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Because the Azores, nor Madeira are countries. Portugal is the country. You put Azores under "Other Group Affliate Details." I put "Born in Azores, Sao Miguel island." I'll do another one and screen shot it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:56 PM Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > This is great except that they are not allowing Azores, Portugal, Azores > Island, Portugal just Portugal!!! Still is not going to show our correct > spot on the Portuguese ladder!! > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > >> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) >> >> A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, >> asking for background information which they then incorporated into their >> ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That >> was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and >> Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in >> the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their >> ethnicity estimates. >> >> If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, >> Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA >> has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family >> Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), >> or you have a Family Finder test on order. >> >> 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as >> the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a >> reference if you are answering for someone else. >> 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. >> 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: >> [image: image.png] >> >> There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. >> >> It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the >> test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will >> suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor >> Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group >> affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, >> Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." >> >> It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, >> maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. >> >> However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes >> difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of >> hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's >> ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither >> was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend >> of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it >> allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, >> I put "Born in Kansas." >> >> So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate >> results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go >> by! >> >> (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting >> results.) >> Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azore
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
This is great except that they are not allowing Azores, Portugal, Azores Island, Portugal just Portugal!!! Still is not going to show our correct spot on the Portuguese ladder!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:32 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) > > A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, > asking for background information which they then incorporated into their > ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That > was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and > Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in > the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their > ethnicity estimates. > > If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal, > Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created > a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder, > transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you > have a Family Finder test on order. > > 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the > test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a > reference if you are answering for someone else. > 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. > 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: > [image: image.png] > > There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. > > It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the > test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will > suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor > Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group > affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, > Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." > > It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, > maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. > > However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes > difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of > hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's > ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither > was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend > of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it > allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, > I put "Born in Kansas." > > So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate > results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go > by! > > (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting > results.) > Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKnzR7nYxWM622Nqjd2CUMNESbAJxWdD2VjE_y%3D2jZCZpttcxQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Put plain old Portugal. Thanks!!! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 4:50 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Ok Cher, here is where I show my total lack of knowledge. Do I put > Portugal of Kingdom of Portugal Algraves? Those are the choices, plus > Timor which I know isn’t what I want. My grandparents were born in the > Azores. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Cheri Mello > *Sent: *Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:32 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy ; > madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA > > > > (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) > > > > A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, > asking for background information which they then incorporated into their > ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That > was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and > Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in > the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their > ethnicity estimates. > > > > If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal, > Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created > a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder, > transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you > have a Family Finder test on order. > > > > 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the > test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a > reference if you are answering for someone else. > > 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. > > 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: > > > > There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. > > > > It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the > test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will > suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor > Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group > affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, > Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." > > > > It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, > maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. > > > > However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes > difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of > hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's > ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither > was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend > of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it > allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, > I put "Born in Kansas." > > > > So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate > results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go > by! > > > > (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting > results.) > > Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_2677514656709567051_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
Ok Cher, here is where I show my total lack of knowledge. Do I put Portugal of Kingdom of Portugal Algraves? Those are the choices, plus Timor which I know isn’t what I want. My grandparents were born in the Azores. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Cheri Mello Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:32 PM To: Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, asking for background information which they then incorporated into their ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their ethnicity estimates. If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you have a Family Finder test on order. 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a reference if you are answering for someone else. 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, I put "Born in Kansas." So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go by! (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting results.) Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6864c6.1c69fb81.99234.322eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] New Family Ancestry Survey on FTDNA
(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists) A few years back (about 2013-2014), Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) did a survey, asking for background information which they then incorporated into their ethnicity estimates. Only 25 people of Portuguese descent answered. That was all. "Portuguese" then had to cover Portugal, Azores, Madeira, and Brazil. Only 25 people! And of course many people did not match those 25 in the population sample. And of course people were disappointed with their ethnicity estimates. If you would like more accurate results for the Azores, Madeira, Portugal, Brazil (or any other country), NOW is the time. Family Tree DNA has created a new Family Ancestry Survey. You need to have ordered Family Finder, transferred over to FTDNA (from Ancestry, My Heritage, 23 and Me), or you have a Family Finder test on order. 1) Open your genealogy program and have the main person be the same as the test person (I did my dad because he's half Portuguese). It helps as a reference if you are answering for someone else. 2) Log directly into the kit with the kit number and password. 3) Scroll down the left column looking for the survey and click it: [image: image.png] There are only 4 questions. And it's clunky and not intuitive. It asks which ethnicity the test taker's father's father was from. So the test taker's paternal grandfather. If you start typing "Portuguese" it will suggest "Europe - Portuguese." Then it asks for the country. The Azores nor Madeira is a country, so you pick Portugal. Then it asks for other group affiliation details. Here you can put something like "Born in the Azores, Sao Miguel island" or "Born in Madeira." It then repeats the process for the test taker's paternal grandmother, maternal grandfather, and maternal grandmother. However, if you have something that's plain old American, it becomes difficult. My dad's maternal half has been in America for a couple of hundred years (at least). So when it wants his maternal grandfather's ethnicity, that would be American. Nope, that was not an option. Neither was Caucasian. I finally picked Europe - English even though he was a blend of the British Isles (English, Irish, Scottish). For his birth place, it allowed United States of America. Then for other group affiliation details, I put "Born in Kansas." So please, Please, PLEASE answer the survey so we can have more accurate results for our corner of the world. Don't let another 5 years (or so) go by! (No, I don't know when the survey will end and they will stop collecting results.) Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H66%3DTTVV_8TXM1BX%3D_Nka5GXb-%3DYNw6BCFQSPz1xfSvg%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Carlos Machado genealogies (mostly Sao Miguel island, with a little Santa Maria)
Angela Loura said: It reminded me that there's also available online the book of Carlos Machado, with some lines regarding Santa Maria: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO_item1/P1.html Me, Cheri: Fr. Joe Viveiros, with the assistance of John Raposo and George Pacheco, indexed this whole book and it is available in Gedcom format. It will be burned on a CD and mailed to you. $50 USD includes the postage too. Mail your check for $50.00, made out to Joseph Viveiros and mail to: George Pacheco 76 Angus St. Somerset, MA 02725 Include your email address in your request in case George can't read your handwriting or something. You can also email George and let him know a check is on its way: bretanha1...@yahoo.com Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_HbT6ve2ReUV0HOEGj-4P%3DoKX11bZL9LngU-k4iJy2N2g%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and JoanaFernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria
Great job Margaret! It reminded me that there's also available online the book of Carlos Machado, with some lines regarding Santa Maria: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO/GENEALOGIAS-CARLOSMACHADO_item1/P1.html Bill Seidler escreveu no dia quinta, 29/08/2019 à(s) 21:18: > Thanks again to Margaret and this outstanding group. > > Bill > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/29c0c509-c0b6-4a6c-907b-8510cef6072f%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/29c0c509-c0b6-4a6c-907b-8510cef6072f%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFdCjnzKjzMijuYDhX%3DVrmqK-pPPpGEY_eTYN1jENOjciA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and JoanaFernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria
Thanks again to Margaret and this outstanding group. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/29c0c509-c0b6-4a6c-907b-8510cef6072f%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
How do you know the name is Jose Soares do Rego? The marriage only gives the name Jose Soares. JR On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 12:12:41 PM UTC-4, R Downey wrote: > > Thank you! I will try to find! That really helps because I thought I > just couldn't see the names. > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:43 PM Bill Seidler > wrote: > >> Not without his seeing his first marriage or his baptism. Usually it is >> only a first marriage that says: son of (FATHERS NAME) and (MOTHERS NAME). >> Second and subsequent usually only say viuvo (widower) of (NAME OF PREVIOUS >> SPOUSE) >> >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:35:04 PM UTC-7, R Downey wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Bill. >>> >>> I really appreciate it. >>> >>> Can you tell who his parents? are. Yes I forgot to mention the first >>> wife. I had her listed also. >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:15 PM Bill Seidler wrote: >>> >>>> Here is the link to the record (left side) >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801_item1/P197.html >>>> >>>> Her parents are José Soares, já defunto (deceased) and his wife >>>> Francisca Rosa. >>>> >>>> He is the widower of Mariana Laurencia? who is buried in the parish of >>>> Santo Reis do Magos dos Fenais de Vera Cruz (Fenais da Ajuda). You will >>>> have to find his first marriage to get his parents' names. >>>> >>>> Bill Seidler >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Rene, >>>>> >>>>> You need to attach the URL so we can view the record. >>>>> >>>>> A marriage record only lists the bride and groom and their parents. It >>>>> won't list any siblings. >>>>> Cheri >>>>> Cheri Mello >>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:43 PM R Downey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g >>>>>> grand parents. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I believe I can make out is >>>>>> >>>>>> Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa >>>>>> >>>>>> May 16th 1801 >>>>>> >>>>>> Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel >>>>>> >>>>>> Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think >>>>>> >>>>>> His I cannot figure out at all? >>>>>> >>>>>> There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that >>>>>> name was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) >>>>>> >>>>>> Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>> I have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties >>>>>> me >>>>>> to several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rene >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b47e3630-c439-4737-8580-c567ff5ae0b2%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b47e3630-c439-4737-8580-c567ff5ae0b2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/84bf815d-f609-421d-9615-a3943bf3d62e%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and JoanaFernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria
Hi Bill, According to RR’s information entered in prior email; Balazar Velho son of Domingos Velho, son of Manuel Fernandes da Silva, son of Francisco Vaz Delgado and Catarina Goncalves. The archives have files that include tree reconstructions of various work notes including that of RR’s. Have a look at # 57. You may be able to request/order copies. http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/details?id=1557252=maria If RR and others reconstructed your Ancestor’s family, it leads me to believe that Rodrigo Rodrigues reference chapter posted in Angela’s email is probably all there is. Margaret From: Bill Seidler Sent: August 29, 2019 5:04 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and JoanaFernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria Now that I've had a chance to digest this outstanding (yet disappointing) information, it seems that I found the wrong Manuel Fernandes da Silva married to the wrong Maria Velha. The couple, with same names, that I need, according to RR married in 1647 is Santa Barbara where the first Casamento book starts in 1648. The one I found took place ten years later and both newlyweds have different parents than the Manuel Fernandes da Silva and Maria Velha given by RR. I am hoping for some advice on how to proceed. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 4:49:20 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote: Thank you so much! I'm going to have to see if I can obtain the RR book I've heard so much about. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-7, Ângela Loura wrote: You got the names on the record right. I took a look at the RR book, and it says: (...) Baltazar Velho, era filho de Domingos Velho e de Joana Fernandes (casados em Santa Bárbara, de Santa Maria a 24.10.1701), ele filho de Manuel Fernandes da Silva (filho de Francisco Vaz Delgado e Catarina Gonçalves) e de Maria Velho (casados em Santa Bárbara em 1647) e esta última filha de Sebastião Velho Botelho e Maria da Fonte. Joana Fernandes (mãe de Baltazar Velho) era filha de Francisco Curvelo e Jerónima Fernandes (casados em Santa Bárbara em 1658) ele filho de Manuel Curvelo e de Maria da Fonte, e ela filha de António Velho e Margarida da Fonte. Bill Seidler escreveu no dia terça, 27/08/2019 à(s) 08:39: I think this might be the marriage of the groom's parents: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P15.html (upper left starting on previous page) What I think I see is: Manuel Fernandes, son of Andre Fernandes da Silva and Anna Velha (deceased) marrying Maria Velha daughter of Antonio Velho da Costa and Breatis (Beatris?) George. Reading around the torn pages, the date is the fifteenth of some month in 1657 or Jan of 1658. I appreciate any other insight or opinions. Thanks, Bill Seidler On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:00:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote: Can someone please help with this record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P62.html (left side) Groom's parents: Manuel Fernandes da Silva and Maria ??? Bride's parents: Francisco ?Cruvelho? and his wife ??? ???. Thank you, Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/92c42457-5455-4e1c-ae55-6857b709036c%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2a3135ac-5ef8-4a87-a691-a129764a8078%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d67f9c2.1c69fb81.1e94a.e0c8%40mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trnaslation help marriage
Hi Bill Me again. Was the first marriage Jan 18 1698? Was Gaspar also a widower of Maria Jacintha? Was Maria Futra daughter of Francisco Dutra and a few more Francisco’s? Looks like a Francisco Garcia is in there also? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Bill Seidler wrote: > > Yes, Maria Dutra was first married to Gaspar João. If that was her first > marriage, then the marriage you posted is her second marriage. > > Both the marriage you posted and her first marriage (see link below, 2nd on > right) give her name as Maria Dutra and her first husband as Gaspar João. > Only on CITCEM have I seen the names Maria Dutra Correia and Gaspar João > Afonso so I don't know the source of those surnames. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P18.html > > I hope this helps, > > Bill Seidler > > > >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: >> Am I reading this correctly >> She was first married to Gaspar Joao Afonso from Cedros >> This marriage paper is for 2nd husband? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Bill Seidler wrote: >>> >>> I see the date as you do. >>> >>> The groom is Francisco Fernandes son of Francisco Fernandes, deaceased, and >>> his wife Maria de Mendonça? >>> The bride is Maria Dutra (Correia is not mentioned), widow of Gaspar João. >>> You would have to find the first marriage to get her parents. >>> >>> I did compare this with CITCEM and it appears to be what you are looking >>> for. CITCEM gives the brides name as Maria Dutra Correia and gives Gaspar >>> João Afonso as her first husband who she married in Santa Barbara parish (I >>> believe this is Cedros) on 18 Jan 1694. >>> >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P85.html >>>> >>>> Bottom Left >>>> Could this be the marriage of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Dutra Correia >>>> Oct 19, 1705? >>>> If so can you see or does it tell the parents names? >>>> >>>> Liz >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c7323181-50ed-4c2c-98b2-79badb26a5c3%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/d3917909-1b14-4081-989d-bbf27220134c%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/61FFE683-0E4D-4F3B-9F93-4754A192B46B%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trnaslation help marriage
Thank you so much Bill. I have found that many times on Circe that it gives last names that the documents don’t. Thought it might be on parents or grandparents names. That’s why I always want to verify and find document to attach. Again thank you Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Bill Seidler wrote: > > Yes, Maria Dutra was first married to Gaspar João. If that was her first > marriage, then the marriage you posted is her second marriage. > > Both the marriage you posted and her first marriage (see link below, 2nd on > right) give her name as Maria Dutra and her first husband as Gaspar João. > Only on CITCEM have I seen the names Maria Dutra Correia and Gaspar João > Afonso so I don't know the source of those surnames. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P18.html > > I hope this helps, > > Bill Seidler > > > >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: >> Am I reading this correctly >> She was first married to Gaspar Joao Afonso from Cedros >> This marriage paper is for 2nd husband? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Bill Seidler wrote: >>> >>> I see the date as you do. >>> >>> The groom is Francisco Fernandes son of Francisco Fernandes, deaceased, and >>> his wife Maria de Mendonça? >>> The bride is Maria Dutra (Correia is not mentioned), widow of Gaspar João. >>> You would have to find the first marriage to get her parents. >>> >>> I did compare this with CITCEM and it appears to be what you are looking >>> for. CITCEM gives the brides name as Maria Dutra Correia and gives Gaspar >>> João Afonso as her first husband who she married in Santa Barbara parish (I >>> believe this is Cedros) on 18 Jan 1694. >>> >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P85.html >>>> >>>> Bottom Left >>>> Could this be the marriage of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Dutra Correia >>>> Oct 19, 1705? >>>> If so can you see or does it tell the parents names? >>>> >>>> Liz >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c7323181-50ed-4c2c-98b2-79badb26a5c3%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/d3917909-1b14-4081-989d-bbf27220134c%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9992ABCB-70CA-4A6F-83F7-7F8FABB0D1FA%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
Thank you! I will try to find! That really helps because I thought I just couldn't see the names. On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:43 PM Bill Seidler wrote: > Not without his seeing his first marriage or his baptism. Usually it is > only a first marriage that says: son of (FATHERS NAME) and (MOTHERS NAME). > Second and subsequent usually only say viuvo (widower) of (NAME OF PREVIOUS > SPOUSE) > > On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:35:04 PM UTC-7, R Downey wrote: >> >> Thank you Bill. >> >> I really appreciate it. >> >> Can you tell who his parents? are. Yes I forgot to mention the first >> wife. I had her listed also. >> >> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:15 PM Bill Seidler wrote: >> >>> Here is the link to the record (left side) >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801_item1/P197.html >>> >>> Her parents are José Soares, já defunto (deceased) and his wife >>> Francisca Rosa. >>> >>> He is the widower of Mariana Laurencia? who is buried in the parish of >>> Santo Reis do Magos dos Fenais de Vera Cruz (Fenais da Ajuda). You will >>> have to find his first marriage to get his parents' names. >>> >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Rene, >>>> >>>> You need to attach the URL so we can view the record. >>>> >>>> A marriage record only lists the bride and groom and their parents. It >>>> won't list any siblings. >>>> Cheri >>>> Cheri Mello >>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:43 PM R Downey wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g >>>>> grand parents. >>>>> >>>>> What I believe I can make out is >>>>> >>>>> Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa >>>>> >>>>> May 16th 1801 >>>>> >>>>> Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel >>>>> >>>>> Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think >>>>> >>>>> His I cannot figure out at all? >>>>> >>>>> There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that >>>>> name was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) >>>>> >>>>> Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I >>>>> have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties me >>>>> to >>>>> several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. >>>>> >>>>> Rene >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b47e3630-c439-4737-8580-c567ff5ae0b2%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b47e3630-c439-4737-8580-c567ff5ae0b2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAPGAitk%2BOdy6dzZPkwMuaru4tCU0VTj6MoAqNthWPpwNVPbk4A%40mail.gmail.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
Lucky, wow, I’d say that was nothing short of miraculous! Thanks everyone for your take on this question. These name changes and combinations drive me to the brink! LOL! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 8:26 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please Wow, you were lucky! Maybe that priest did genealogy! :) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 7:17 PM Bill Seidler wrote: Yes the name changes do make it challenging. I just wanted to point out one marriage from my tree that was written by a priest that seemed to have future genealogist in mind. It says Rosa da Conceição, ALSO KNOW AS ROSA DOS ANJOS AT HER FIRST MARRIAGE... I felt lucky on this one that I didn't have to guess that Rosa de Conceição and Rosa dos Anjos were the same person. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911_item1/P160.html (starts lower left) Bill Seidler On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-7, Ângela Loura wrote: I would say it's the same person. I have a Laurência who shows up as Laurência Rosa, Laurência de Jesus, and finally Laurência Rosa de Jesus. Also try to find out the death record(s) for your Joaquina. Cheri Mello escreveu no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) 21:01: It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa and one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2cedb620-1fdd-4283-9736-499b27d6e22c%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H0NCgACJYEf%2B-1iCBT7C3bfrUQ1-S_b7C%3DH-xQrbJD2A%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d67eaf9.1c69fb81.65582.1d17SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and Joana Fernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria
Hi Bill, I do have the same problem you have. One thing to be considered is may be he married twice… Eliseu De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] Em nome de Bill Seidler Enviada: quinta-feira, 29 de agosto de 2019 09:04 Para: Azores Genealogy Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and Joana Fernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria Now that I've had a chance to digest this outstanding (yet disappointing) information, it seems that I found the wrong Manuel Fernandes da Silva married to the wrong Maria Velha. The couple, with same names, that I need, according to RR married in 1647 is Santa Barbara where the first Casamento book starts in 1648. The one I found took place ten years later and both newlyweds have different parents than the Manuel Fernandes da Silva and Maria Velha given by RR. I am hoping for some advice on how to proceed. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 4:49:20 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote: Thank you so much! I'm going to have to see if I can obtain the RR book I've heard so much about. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-7, Ângela Loura wrote: You got the names on the record right. I took a look at the RR book, and it says: (...) Baltazar Velho, era filho de Domingos Velho e de Joana Fernandes (casados em Santa Bárbara, de Santa Maria a 24.10.1701), ele filho de Manuel Fernandes da Silva (filho de Francisco Vaz Delgado e Catarina Gonçalves) e de Maria Velho (casados em Santa Bárbara em 1647) e esta última filha de Sebastião Velho Botelho e Maria da Fonte. Joana Fernandes (mãe de Baltazar Velho) era filha de Francisco Curvelo e Jerónima Fernandes (casados em Santa Bárbara em 1658) ele filho de Manuel Curvelo e de Maria da Fonte, e ela filha de António Velho e Margarida da Fonte. Bill Seidler mailto:bsei...@gmail.com> > escreveu no dia terça, 27/08/2019 à(s) 08:39: I think this might be the marriage of the groom's parents: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P15.html (upper left starting on previous page) What I think I see is: Manuel Fernandes, son of Andre Fernandes da Silva and Anna Velha (deceased) marrying Maria Velha daughter of Antonio Velho da Costa and Breatis (Beatris?) George. Reading around the torn pages, the date is the fifteenth of some month in 1657 or Jan of 1658. I appreciate any other insight or opinions. Thanks, Bill Seidler On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:00:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote: Can someone please help with this record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P62.html (left side) Groom's parents: Manuel Fernandes da Silva and Maria ??? Bride's parents: Francisco ?Cruvelho? and his wife ??? ???. Thank you, Bill Seidler -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azo...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/92c42457-5455-4e1c-ae55-6857b709036c%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/92c42457-5455-4e1c-ae55-6857b709036c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2a3135ac-5ef8-4a87-a691-a129764a8078%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2a3135ac-5ef8-4a87-a691-a129764a8078%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/005e01d55e78%24cd369310%2467a3b930%24%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: 1701 Marriage of Domingos Velho and Joana Fernandes, Santa Barbara, Island of Santa Maria
Now that I've had a chance to digest this outstanding (yet disappointing) information, it seems that I found the wrong Manuel Fernandes da Silva married to the wrong Maria Velha. The couple, with same names, that I need, according to RR married in 1647 is Santa Barbara where the first Casamento book starts in 1648. The one I found took place ten years later and both newlyweds have different parents than the Manuel Fernandes da Silva and Maria Velha given by RR. I am hoping for some advice on how to proceed. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 4:49:20 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote: > > Thank you so much! I'm going to have to see if I can obtain the RR book > I've heard so much about. > > Bill Seidler > > > > > On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 10:31:55 AM UTC-7, Ângela Loura wrote: >> >> You got the names on the record right. >> >> I took a look at the RR book, and it says: >> >> *(...) Baltazar Velho, era filho de Domingos Velho e de Joana Fernandes >> (casados em Santa Bárbara, de Santa Maria a 24.10.1701), ele filho de >> Manuel Fernandes da Silva (filho de Francisco Vaz Delgado e Catarina >> Gonçalves) e de Maria Velho (casados em Santa Bárbara em 1647) e esta >> última filha de Sebastião Velho Botelho e Maria da Fonte. Joana Fernandes >> (mãe de Baltazar Velho) era filha de Francisco Curvelo e Jerónima Fernandes >> (casados em Santa Bárbara em 1658) ele filho de Manuel Curvelo e de Maria >> da Fonte, e ela filha de António Velho e Margarida da Fonte.* >> >> Bill Seidler escreveu no dia terça, 27/08/2019 à(s) >> 08:39: >> >>> I think this might be the marriage of the groom's parents: >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P15.html >>> (upper >>> left starting on previous page) >>> >>> What I think I see is: >>> >>> Manuel Fernandes, son of Andre Fernandes da Silva and Anna Velha >>> (deceased) marrying Maria Velha daughter of Antonio Velho da Costa and >>> Breatis (Beatris?) George. >>> >>> Reading around the torn pages, the date is the fifteenth of some month >>> in 1657 or Jan of 1658. >>> >>> I appreciate any other insight or opinions. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill Seidler >>> >>> On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:00:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Seidler wrote: >>>> >>>> Can someone please help with this record. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1648-1716_item1/P62.html >>>> (left >>>> side) >>>> >>>> Groom's parents: Manuel Fernandes da Silva and Maria ??? >>>> >>>> Bride's parents: Francisco ?Cruvelho? and his wife ??? ???. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Bill Seidler >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/92c42457-5455-4e1c-ae55-6857b709036c%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/92c42457-5455-4e1c-ae55-6857b709036c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2a3135ac-5ef8-4a87-a691-a129764a8078%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
Not without his seeing his first marriage or his baptism. Usually it is only a first marriage that says: son of (FATHERS NAME) and (MOTHERS NAME). Second and subsequent usually only say viuvo (widower) of (NAME OF PREVIOUS SPOUSE) On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:35:04 PM UTC-7, R Downey wrote: > > Thank you Bill. > > I really appreciate it. > > Can you tell who his parents? are. Yes I forgot to mention the first > wife. I had her listed also. > > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:15 PM Bill Seidler > wrote: > >> Here is the link to the record (left side) >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801_item1/P197.html >> >> Her parents are José Soares, já defunto (deceased) and his wife Francisca >> Rosa. >> >> He is the widower of Mariana Laurencia? who is buried in the parish of >> Santo Reis do Magos dos Fenais de Vera Cruz (Fenais da Ajuda). You will >> have to find his first marriage to get his parents' names. >> >> Bill Seidler >> >> >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >>> >>> Hi Rene, >>> >>> You need to attach the URL so we can view the record. >>> >>> A marriage record only lists the bride and groom and their parents. It >>> won't list any siblings. >>> Cheri >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:43 PM R Downey wrote: >>> >>>> I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g grand >>>> parents. >>>> >>>> What I believe I can make out is >>>> >>>> Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa >>>> >>>> May 16th 1801 >>>> >>>> Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel >>>> >>>> Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think >>>> >>>> His I cannot figure out at all? >>>> >>>> There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that name >>>> was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) >>>> >>>> Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I >>>> have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties me >>>> to >>>> several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. >>>> >>>> Rene >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/b47e3630-c439-4737-8580-c567ff5ae0b2%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
Thank you Bill. I really appreciate it. Can you tell who his parents? are. Yes I forgot to mention the first wife. I had her listed also. On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:15 PM Bill Seidler wrote: > Here is the link to the record (left side) > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801_item1/P197.html > > Her parents are José Soares, já defunto (deceased) and his wife Francisca > Rosa. > > He is the widower of Mariana Laurencia? who is buried in the parish of > Santo Reis do Magos dos Fenais de Vera Cruz (Fenais da Ajuda). You will > have to find his first marriage to get his parents' names. > > Bill Seidler > > > On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: >> >> Hi Rene, >> >> You need to attach the URL so we can view the record. >> >> A marriage record only lists the bride and groom and their parents. It >> won't list any siblings. >> Cheri >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:43 PM R Downey wrote: >> >>> I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g grand >>> parents. >>> >>> What I believe I can make out is >>> >>> Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa >>> >>> May 16th 1801 >>> >>> Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel >>> >>> Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think >>> >>> His I cannot figure out at all? >>> >>> There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that name >>> was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) >>> >>> Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I >>> have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties me to >>> several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. >>> >>> Rene >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAPGAitmD2LgM984WHcOBygq9okMycFoCOJnSrYGBHyq2hBE92g%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
Here is the link to the record (left side) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801/SMG-RG-CONCEICAO-C-1771-1801_item1/P197.html Her parents are José Soares, já defunto (deceased) and his wife Francisca Rosa. He is the widower of Mariana Laurencia? who is buried in the parish of Santo Reis do Magos dos Fenais de Vera Cruz (Fenais da Ajuda). You will have to find his first marriage to get his parents' names. Bill Seidler On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 8:46:33 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Hi Rene, > > You need to attach the URL so we can view the record. > > A marriage record only lists the bride and groom and their parents. It > won't list any siblings. > Cheri > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:43 PM R Downey > wrote: > >> I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g grand >> parents. >> >> What I believe I can make out is >> >> Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa >> >> May 16th 1801 >> >> Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel >> >> Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think >> >> His I cannot figure out at all? >> >> There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that name >> was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) >> >> Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I >> have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties me to >> several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. >> >> Rene >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/06602cf2-285c-4066-94bf-b6eb5cf72277%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
Hi Rene, You need to attach the URL so we can view the record. A marriage record only lists the bride and groom and their parents. It won't list any siblings. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:43 PM R Downey wrote: > I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g grand > parents. > > What I believe I can make out is > > Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa > > May 16th 1801 > > Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel > > Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think > > His I cannot figure out at all? > > There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that name > was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) > > Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I > have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties me to > several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. > > Rene > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Fu9tY3_V%2BcE%3DtD73tAZHJpYMy%3DGaVRq0hfVagbdf%3DQXg%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Can someone help me with this marriage
I have struggled to figure this marriage certificate out for my g grand parents. What I believe I can make out is Lourenco Medeiros and Francisca Jacintha Rosa May 16th 1801 Place: Conceicao Ribeira Grande Sao Miguel Her parents: Jose Soares do Rego and Francisca Rosa - I think His I cannot figure out at all? There is also Maria Clara? Sister? (but I cannot remember if that name was listed elsewhere or on here, but I have that also handwritten?) Any information you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I have struggled to read this for months and I think this 1 record ties me to several distant cousins I am trying to find the link to. Rene -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/9a563650-ba0c-4355-9ba1-3e28db9e383a%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
Wow, you were lucky! Maybe that priest did genealogy! :) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 7:17 PM Bill Seidler wrote: > Yes the name changes do make it challenging. I just wanted to point out > one marriage from my tree that was written by a priest that seemed to have > future genealogist in mind. It says Rosa da Conceição, *ALSO KNOW AS > ROSA DOS ANJOS AT HER FIRST MARRIAGE..*. > > I felt lucky on this one that I didn't have to guess that Rosa de > Conceição and Rosa dos Anjos were the same person. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911_item1/P160.html > (starts > lower left) > > Bill Seidler > > > > On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-7, Ângela Loura wrote: >> >> I would say it's the same person. >> I have a Laurência who shows up as Laurência Rosa, Laurência de Jesus, >> and finally Laurência Rosa de Jesus. >> >> Also try to find out the death record(s) for your Joaquina. >> >> Cheri Mello escreveu no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) >> 21:01: >> >>> It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at >>> least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name >>> correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with >>> all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. >>> Good luck, >>> Cheri Mello >>> Listowner, Azores-Gen >>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira >>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < >>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa >>>> and one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her >>>> parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that >>>> there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina >>>> Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either >>>> Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> >>>> Virus-free. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> >>>> <#m_-2668443402575165087_CAHSkNFeMRNSAM2OT-dFpmtCdOGCyGRL1zgfFFGUsDbv-QYgRaA@mail.gmail.com_m_7867508901503665241_m_-142597923243736_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2cedb620-1fdd-4283-9736-499b27d6e22c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2cedb620-1fdd-4283-9736-499b27d6e22c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_H0NCgACJYEf%2B-1iCBT7C3bfrUQ1-S_b7C%3DH-xQrbJD2A%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
Yes the name changes do make it challenging. I just wanted to point out one marriage from my tree that was written by a priest that seemed to have future genealogist in mind. It says Rosa da Conceição, *ALSO KNOW AS ROSA DOS ANJOS AT HER FIRST MARRIAGE..*. I felt lucky on this one that I didn't have to guess that Rosa de Conceição and Rosa dos Anjos were the same person. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-C-1900-1911_item1/P160.html (starts lower left) Bill Seidler On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-7, Ângela Loura wrote: > > I would say it's the same person. > I have a Laurência who shows up as Laurência Rosa, Laurência de Jesus, and > finally Laurência Rosa de Jesus. > > Also try to find out the death record(s) for your Joaquina. > > Cheri Mello > escreveu no dia quarta, > 28/08/2019 à(s) 21:01: > >> It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at >> least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name >> correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with >> all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. >> Good luck, >> Cheri Mello >> Listowner, Azores-Gen >> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, >> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < >> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: >> >>> If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa >>> and one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her >>> parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that >>> there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina >>> Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either >>> Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? >>> >>> >>> >>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> >>> >>> <#CAHSkNFeMRNSAM2OT-dFpmtCdOGCyGRL1zgfFFGUsDbv-QYgRaA@mail.gmail.com_m_7867508901503665241_m_-142597923243736_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azo...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/2cedb620-1fdd-4283-9736-499b27d6e22c%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trnaslation help marriage
Yes, Maria Dutra was first married to Gaspar João. If that was her first marriage, then the marriage you posted is her second marriage. Both the marriage you posted and her first marriage (see link below, 2nd on right) give her name as Maria Dutra and her first husband as Gaspar João. Only on CITCEM have I seen the names Maria Dutra *Correia *and Gaspar João *Afonso *so I don't know the source of those surnames. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P18.html I hope this helps, Bill Seidler On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:35:20 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: > > Am I reading this correctly > She was first married to Gaspar Joao Afonso from Cedros > This marriage paper is for 2nd husband? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Bill Seidler > > wrote: > > I see the date as you do. > > The groom is Francisco Fernandes son of Francisco Fernandes, deaceased, > and his wife Maria de Mendonça? > The bride is Maria Dutra (Correia is not mentioned), widow of Gaspar > João. You would have to find the first marriage to get her parents. > > I did compare this with CITCEM and it appears to be what you are looking > for. CITCEM gives the brides name as Maria Dutra Correia and gives Gaspar > João Afonso as her first husband who she married in Santa Barbara parish (I > believe this is Cedros) on 18 Jan 1694. > > Bill Seidler > > On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P85.html >> >> Bottom Left >> Could this be the marriage of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Dutra >> Correia Oct 19, 1705? >> If so can you see or does it tell the parents names? >> >> Liz >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azo...@googlegroups.com . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c7323181-50ed-4c2c-98b2-79badb26a5c3%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c7323181-50ed-4c2c-98b2-79badb26a5c3%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/d3917909-1b14-4081-989d-bbf27220134c%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help please Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto
Angela, terrific! Thank you! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 6:35 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help please Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto It's Maria: «O indivíduo a que se refere este registo de nome Maria da Assunção Soares, com estado de casada com Manuel de Sousa, faleceu nesta freguesia no dia dezasseis do corrente mês e ano.» 17-04-1934 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) 20:57: Is this side note showing someone dying on 17 Apr 1934. Is it Maria d’Assumpacao Soares or her husband, Manoel de Sousa? I show their marriage date as 10 Oct 1895 from their marriage record but; I don’t have the death date of either of them. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P29.html Appreciate the help, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dcb8.1c69fb81.415bc.024eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFcMEe4t6UZOPiK87kiRYA4WREVbubkLUkOGfeXJu%2B4Jjg%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d6721f6.1c69fb81.b03cb.0ae7SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trnaslation help marriage
Am I reading this correctly She was first married to Gaspar Joao Afonso from Cedros This marriage paper is for 2nd husband? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Bill Seidler wrote: > > I see the date as you do. > > The groom is Francisco Fernandes son of Francisco Fernandes, deaceased, and > his wife Maria de Mendonça? > The bride is Maria Dutra (Correia is not mentioned), widow of Gaspar João. > You would have to find the first marriage to get her parents. > > I did compare this with CITCEM and it appears to be what you are looking for. > CITCEM gives the brides name as Maria Dutra Correia and gives Gaspar João > Afonso as her first husband who she married in Santa Barbara parish (I > believe this is Cedros) on 18 Jan 1694. > > Bill Seidler > >> On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P85.html >> >> Bottom Left >> Could this be the marriage of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Dutra Correia >> Oct 19, 1705? >> If so can you see or does it tell the parents names? >> >> Liz > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c7323181-50ed-4c2c-98b2-79badb26a5c3%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/577E42A7-60EA-4792-BC6D-EFF0D372797B%40gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help please Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto
It's Maria: «O indivíduo a que se refere este registo de nome Maria da Assunção Soares, com estado de casada com Manuel de Sousa, faleceu nesta freguesia no dia dezasseis do corrente mês e ano.» 17-04-1934 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) 20:57: > Is this side note showing someone dying on 17 Apr 1934. Is it Maria > d’Assumpacao Soares or her husband, Manoel de Sousa? I show their marriage > date as 10 Oct 1895 from their marriage record but; I don’t have the death > date of either of them. > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P29.html > > > > Appreciate the help, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_1723245949199257891_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dcb8.1c69fb81.415bc.024eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dcb8.1c69fb81.415bc.024eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFcMEe4t6UZOPiK87kiRYA4WREVbubkLUkOGfeXJu%2B4Jjg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
I would say it's the same person. I have a Laurência who shows up as Laurência Rosa, Laurência de Jesus, and finally Laurência Rosa de Jesus. Also try to find out the death record(s) for your Joaquina. Cheri Mello escreveu no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) 21:01: > It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at > least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name > correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with > all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. > Good luck, > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa and >> one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her >> parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that >> there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina >> Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either >> Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? >> >> >> >> Sam (Mazatlán, MX) >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> >> <#m_7867508901503665241_m_-142597923243736_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFeMRNSAM2OT-dFpmtCdOGCyGRL1zgfFFGUsDbv-QYgRaA%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
I would say same person I have come across different Joaquina with different middle name but to verify look for another baptism with that name On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:31 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Thanks Cheri. I’ve found this kind of thing many times and it drives me > nutso trying to figure out who is who. This changing or adding names seems > to happen fairly frequently. G…. I guess in using the timeline, you > can see if once the name is “changed” it stays changed and if not, one can > “suppose” it is two different people? > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Cheri Mello > *Sent: *Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:01 PM > *To: *Azores Genealogy > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please > > > > It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at > least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name > correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with > all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. > > Good luck, > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < > azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa and > one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her > parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that > there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina > Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either > Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66e489.1c69fb81.9b801.00aeSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66e489.1c69fb81.9b801.00aeSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHkk-E%3DgiB84phrQ9BV_y0i_eguWL_wBAowpt-RJtmnQcpeTyg%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Trnaslation help marriage
I see the date as you do. The groom is Francisco Fernandes son of Francisco Fernandes, deaceased, and his wife Maria de Mendonça? The bride is Maria Dutra (Correia is not mentioned), widow of Gaspar João. You would have to find the first marriage to get her parents. I did compare this with CITCEM and it appears to be what you are looking for. CITCEM gives the brides name as Maria Dutra Correia and gives Gaspar João Afonso as her first husband who she married in Santa Barbara parish (I believe this is Cedros) on 18 Jan 1694. Bill Seidler On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 12:57:50 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P85.html > > Bottom Left > Could this be the marriage of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Dutra Correia > Oct 19, 1705? > If so can you see or does it tell the parents names? > > Liz > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/c7323181-50ed-4c2c-98b2-79badb26a5c3%40googlegroups.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
Thanks Cheri. I’ve found this kind of thing many times and it drives me nutso trying to figure out who is who. This changing or adding names seems to happen fairly frequently. G…. I guess in using the timeline, you can see if once the name is “changed” it stays changed and if not, one can “suppose” it is two different people? Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Cheri Mello Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 2:01 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy wrote: If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa and one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66e489.1c69fb81.9b801.00aeSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto
Life event certificates, that’s a new term for me. Thanks for the additional explanation. I learn so much from this group! Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 1:57 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto Probably some family descendant asked for life event certificates in 2006 and the conservatory updated his original baptism record. A quarta, 28 de ago de 2019, 17:11, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu: Angela; I really appreciate you going back over this one for me. Seems I had most things correct. I find it really interesting that even after someone immigrated, the made notations on their birth records of the events in their lives. I wonder if the individual came back and showed them proof of these events, well, obviously not the death or did the relatives give the information and proof. In this case, it apparently was all done at the same time after the death of Luis. Interesting… Many thanks, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:52 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto 1st side note: Basically says he married Rosa Brasil on the 11th of July 1891 in Providence, Rhode Island. (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the Conservatória do Registo Civil de Vila do Porto, Margarida Almeida) 2rd side note: 1st wife, Rosa Brasil dies on 7 December 1912? (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the Conservatória do Registo Civil de Vila do Porto, Margarida Almeida) 3rd side note: Luis marries Umbelina Resendes in Rehoboth, Massachusetts on what date?? (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the Conservatória do Registo Civil de Vila do Porto, Margarida Almeida) 4th side note: Luis died on the 14th of February 1948 (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the Conservatória do Registo Civil de Vila do Porto, Margarida Almeida) All side notes show a different number/code, I think related to the info entry in the Conservatory system. A quarta, 28 de ago de 2019, 03:26, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu: Angela, Ok, but; what is the 2nd side not about? I can’t figure out that one at all and do you have any hints on what I’ve marked in red, below. Thanks Angela, appreciate your help. Sam (Mazatlán, MX) From: Ângela Loura Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:53 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto Hi Sam, All the sidenotes were added in 2006 by officer of the Conservatória do Registo Civil de Vila do Porto, so at the end of each sidenote you see April 19 2006 and Margarida Almeida's signature. 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) 01:44: Right hand page. #27. I think I can read the first and the last side notes but; not sure about the middle two. 1st side note: Basically says he married Rosa Brasil on the 11th of July 1891 in Providence, Rhode Island. Un-numbered side note: Something happened on the 27th of March 2006. Did he become a U.S. citizen then? It looks like something to do with civil rights?? 2rd side note: 1st wife, Rosa Brasil dies on 7 December 1912? 3rd side note: Luis marries Umbelina Resendes in Rehoboth, Massachusetts on what date?? It can’t be in 2006 because he was already dead then, right? 4th side note: Luis died on the 14th of February 1948. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P16.html Thank you for helping me with this, Sam (Mazatlán, MX) Virus-free. www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d65ce6f.1c69fb81.608c5.0647SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAHSkNFewu7j2q0x8Uenom4Vrjp%2Bm-CKDU_sosiWsdNf8c7Q8xw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d65e659.1c69fb81.3d6a7.0c45SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com. -- You received this mess
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Opinions please
It depends on the record. At the baptism, the mother was not present (at least back in the day). So someone may not have remembered her middle name correctly. Or maybe she changed it for some reason. I make a timeline with all the records she is in and I weigh the evidence from there. Good luck, Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:53 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > If one record says the wife, mother, or grandmother is Joaquina Rosa and > one of the other records states her name as Joaquina Umbelina but; her > parents and grandparents are the same in all records; am I to think that > there are two Joaquinas. One is Joaquina Rosa and the other is Joaquina > Umbelina and they are sisters or am I to think that her name is either > Joaquina Rosa Umbelina or Joaquina Umbelina Rosa? > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > <#m_-142597923243736_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d66dbc0.1c69fb81.d3127.02baSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CAKUUw_Ek3JDvdddTKzRpBzbUc2sNoiL%3DWM8vFukXY-pjHuQKLw%40mail.gmail.com.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Trnaslation help marriage
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1687-1719_item1/P85.html Bottom Left Could this be the marriage of Francisco Fernandes and Maria Dutra Correia Oct 19, 1705? If so can you see or does it tell the parents names? Liz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/CADwZyr7okq0Xby1HLhyKxhwdpAdLjoXvH4TTDUUDu4WA5jdq5Q%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do Porto
Probably some family descendant asked for life event certificates in 2006 and the conservatory updated his original baptism record. A quarta, 28 de ago de 2019, 17:11, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> escreveu: > Angela; I really appreciate you going back over this one for me. Seems I > had most things correct. I find it really interesting that even after > someone immigrated, the made notations on their birth records of the events > in their lives. I wonder if the individual came back and showed them proof > of these events, well, obviously not the death or did the relatives give > the information and proof. In this case, it apparently was all done at the > same time after the death of Luis. Interesting… > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Ângela Loura > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 27, 2019 9:52 PM > *To: *azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do > Porto > > > > 1st side note: Basically says he married Rosa Brasil on the 11th of July > 1891 in Providence, Rhode Island. > > (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the *Conservatória do > Registo Civil de Vila do Porto*, Margarida Almeida) > > > > 2rd side note: 1st wife, Rosa Brasil dies on 7 December 1912? > > (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the *Conservatória do > Registo Civil de Vila do Porto*, Margarida Almeida) > > > > 3rd side note: Luis marries Umbelina Resendes in Rehoboth, Massachusetts > on what date?? > > (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the *Conservatória do > Registo Civil de Vila do Porto*, Margarida Almeida) > > > > 4th side note: Luis died on the 14th of February 1948 > > (side note added in April 19 2006 by officer of the *Conservatória do > Registo Civil de Vila do Porto*, Margarida Almeida) > > > > All side notes show a different number/code, I think related to the info > entry in the Conservatory system. > > > > A quarta, 28 de ago de 2019, 03:26, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy > escreveu: > > Angela, Ok, but; what is the 2nd side not about? I can’t figure out that > one at all and do you have any hints on what I’ve marked in red, below. > > > > Thanks Angela, appreciate your help. > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > *From: *Ângela Loura > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 27, 2019 7:53 PM > *To: *azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, 1870 Sao Pedro, Vila do > Porto > > > > Hi Sam, > > > > All the sidenotes were added in 2006 by officer of the *Conservatória do > Registo Civil de Vila do Porto*, so at the end of each sidenote you see > April 19 2006 and Margarida Almeida's signature. > > > > 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy escreveu > no dia quarta, 28/08/2019 à(s) 01:44: > > Right hand page. #27. I think I can read the first and the last side > notes but; not sure about the middle two. > > > > 1st side note: Basically says he married Rosa Brasil on the 11th of July > 1891 in Providence, Rhode Island. > > > > Un-numbered side note: Something happened on the 27th of March 2006. Did > he become a U.S. citizen then? It looks like something to do with civil > rights?? > > > > 2rd side note: 1st wife, Rosa Brasil dies on 7 December 1912? > > > > 3rd side note: Luis marries Umbelina Resendes in Rehoboth, Massachusetts > on what date?? It can’t be in 2006 because he was already dead then, > right? > > > > 4th side note: Luis died on the 14th of February 1948. > > > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P16.html > > > > Thank you for helping me with this, > > > > Sam (Mazatlán, MX) > > > > > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d65ce6f.1c69fb81.608c5.0647SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/azores/5d65ce6f.1c69fb81.608c5.0647SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING%40gmr-mx.google
