Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer content? Is the service providing access to content, or driving traffic to bbc.co.uk? Well someone's already doing it - http://watchification.com/ - I'd always assumed it was legal! Or is this a special case? Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface à la Youtube for Television? iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I missing the point about Youtube for TV here? MCH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Allowing embedding of user-specified clips (ie marking an in- and out-point) could be a nice way of allowing 'water cooler' moments to be easily shared, Even without embedding I would love to see this. Other video services allow you to jump to a specific start point and it would save all those e-mails asking you to jump to 40 mins in on a video. Dan - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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There's a hacky way that's been published on the old internet http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m But not a proper way. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Poppy Hatfield Sent: 16 January 2009 09:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer content? Is the service providing access to content, or driving traffic to bbc.co.uk? Well someone's already doing it - http://watchification.com/ - I'd always assumed it was legal! Or is this a special case? Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface à la Youtube for Television? iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I missing the point about Youtube for TV here? MCH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface à la Youtube for Television? iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I missing the point about Youtube for TV here? Sorry, was too busy looking for my accented ' à '. I meant any plans for an *official* Wii/PS3-friendly interface - the WiiPlayer is great, yes, but not publicised or redirected from the iPlayer pages. jim
Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
There's a hacky way that's been published on the old internet http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m But not a proper way. Great link, thanks. As you say though, not official, or available to the layman.
Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Jim Tonge wrote: Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface ? la Youtube for Television? iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I missing the point about Youtube for TV here? Sorry, was too busy looking for my accented ' ? '. Sorry, was too busy looking for my accented ' ? '. I meant any plans for an *official* Wii/PS3-friendly interface - the WiiPlayer is great, yes, but not publicised or redirected from the iPlayer pages. I thought there the interfaces were already set up for both PS3 and wii. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/cy/where_to_get_iplayer (click on Games Consoles) mentions both by name and I have a vague recollection (although not one that google is helping me prove) that specific versions for each have been released. I've not turned my wii on for a while, but thought that last time I was demoing it to someone (which I seem to do more than actually use it) that the iPlayer site was adjusted for it. --billy -- http://billyabbott.co.uk Are you on a day pass from Satan? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Sincere apologies. Just checked it on FireFox with user-agent switcher and, sure enough, there's the Wii interface... That'll teach me to check before complaining. Good job! jim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Sorry, was too busy looking for my accented ' à '. I meant any plans for an *official* Wii/PS3-friendly interface - the WiiPlayer is great, yes, but not publicised or redirected from the iPlayer pages. http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/streaming_programmes/wii ? Are you not automatically taken to the Wii version of the site upon going to bbc.co.uk/iplayer? MCH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like politics/rights issues etc. have held this up. What I think would be really exciting would be a site/service that wraps the hacky method in a super-easy front-end allowing anyone to do it just by selecting a programme from a list (or whatever)... Steve Andrew Bowden Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:33:01 -0800 There's a hacky way that's been published on the old internet http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m But not a proper way. -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Martin Poppy Hatfield Sent: 16 January 2009 09:57 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer content? Is the service providing access to content, or driving traffic to bbc.co.uk? Well someone's already doing it - http://watchification.com/ - I'd always assumed it was legal! Or is this a special case? Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface à la Youtube for Television? iPlayer with Wii-specific UI has existed for ages - or am I missing the point about Youtube for TV here? MCH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Openness at the BBC: http://commonplatform.co.uk mailto:st...@bowbrick.com 07768 257 570 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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-Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Bowbrick Sent: 16 January 2009 12:59 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like politics/rights issues etc. have held this up. To add to that, I've been told one of the reasons we do not allow embed on iPlayer (and on our news YouTube channels) is because the content expires. So anyone who did embed the content in their pages would have a broken link within a few days - which isn't a great user experience. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }I
can't imagine it would be THAT difficult to put together a way of
finding the embed code - the question is whether it is allowed or
not.
I knocked together a quick thing for myself with Top Gear video
clips when bbc.co.uk/topgear moved to flash video.
It's a very simple thing and you can see it here - just click Get
Embed Code and it will take you to the list of clips.
http://www.upyourego.com/topgear/a/expire.asp
You could create a simple form where you put the programme code
click get code and it fills out a textarea box with the right code.
In fact here is a quick and nasty one I've built for iPlayer
http://www.upyourego.com/test/pip.asp
But I don't know the exact ins and outs of iPlayer and I'm guessing
it could change at a moments notice and that doing that is probably
against the TCs of using iPlayer.
On Fri 16/01/09 12:58 PM , Steve Bowbrick steve.bowbr...@bbc.co.uk
sent:
Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first
started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a
matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like
politics/rights issues etc. have held this up.
What I think would be really exciting would be a site/service that
wraps the hacky method in a super-easy front-end allowing anyone to
do it just by selecting a programme from a list (or whatever)...
Steve
Andrew Bowden
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:33:01 -0800
There's a hacky way that's been published on the old internet
http://jonathan.tweed.name/2007/12/hacking-the-iplayer-embedded-m
But not a proper way.
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So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer
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Well someone's already doing it - http://watchification.com/
- I'd always assumed it was legal! Or is this a special case?
Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly
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RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
Good point. But I've always thought of that as a small opportunity: sure, the user wouldn't get the content they were expecting but something else could be served into the gap couldn't it? Something that hasn't (or won't) expire? Or even just a YouTube 'you might also like'-style promo. s -- Openness at the BBC: http://commonplatform.co.uk mailto:st...@bowbrick.com 07768 257 570 -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Gareth Davis Sent: 16 January 2009 13:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Steve Bowbrick Sent: 16 January 2009 12:59 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? Watchification.com uses the hacky way of embedding - when we first started to embed (early 2008) various BBC folk told us it was just a matter of time before it was officially allowed but it looks like politics/rights issues etc. have held this up. To add to that, I've been told one of the reasons we do not allow embed on iPlayer (and on our news YouTube channels) is because the content expires. So anyone who did embed the content in their pages would have a broken link within a few days - which isn't a great user experience. -- Gareth Davis | Production Systems Specialist World Service Future Media, Digital Delivery Team - Part of BBC Global News Division * http://www.bbcworldservice.com/ * 702NE Bush House, Strand, London, WC2B 4PH - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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Apologies for revisiting an old thread, and for the stream-of- consciousness rant. After the suggestion of comparing Hulu to iPlayer, I found a proxy that lets me stream fast enough to watch Hulu. It's a great service, and I particularly love the (actually rather obvious) ability to embed videos. HBO content would make it King. The clips they litter the site with merely serve to be rather irritating when you're looking for an episode however, and having to use a proxy makes it a PITA. So, to the point: any plans to allow embedding of iPlayer content? Is the service providing access to content, or driving traffic to bbc.co.uk? I realise this question is probably going to open up a huge can of worms, so I'll add further impractical thoughts before the inevitable... Allowing embedding of user-specified clips (ie marking an in- and out- point) could be a nice way of allowing 'water cooler' moments to be easily shared, promoting shows in exactly the way music companies have failed to promote their artists in the current YouTube audio-removal debacle. Oh, while I'm on a roll, any plans for a Wii/PS3-friendly interface à la Youtube for Television? Thoughts? cheers, jim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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2008/12/11 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com: Don't forget you can all take part in the iplayer birthday celebrations. I'm almost certain that iPlayer was released sometime in the summer (not December)? archive.org has a copy of iPlayer dated 13 Oct 2007[1], it also has a copy from Aug 07 but that doesn't load (at least not for me). Are you guys certain iPlayer was released in December 07, is Archive.org wrong? Andy [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20071013100045rn_1/www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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iplayer has had quite a few launches over the years so it was a bit tricky to find an exact date - december of last year was when it got a real marketing push and a public launch -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 12 December 2008 15:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? 2008/12/11 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com: Don't forget you can all take part in the iplayer birthday celebrations. I'm almost certain that iPlayer was released sometime in the summer (not December)? archive.org has a copy of iPlayer dated 13 Oct 2007[1], it also has a copy from Aug 07 but that doesn't load (at least not for me). Are you guys certain iPlayer was released in December 07, is Archive.org wrong? Andy [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20071013100045rn_1/www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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On Friday 12 December 2008 15:34:56 Andy wrote: I'm almost certain that iPlayer was released sometime in the summer (not December)? archive.org has a copy of iPlayer dated 13 Oct 2007[1], it also has a copy from Aug 07 but that doesn't load (at least not for me). Are you guys certain iPlayer was released in December 07, is Archive.org wrong? http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/msg06964.html Tom Loosemore [backstage] flash streaming version of iplayer is live Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:04:32 -0800 at least it is on this Mac running flash 8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer asta la vista DRM debate - does it work with gnash, i wonder? See also: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/msg06982.html Michael -- http://yeoldeclue.com/blog http://www.kamaelia.org/Home - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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It was public beta for a while, but officially it's one year old today. a On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Andy stude.l...@googlemail.com wrote: 2008/12/11 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com: Don't forget you can all take part in the iplayer birthday celebrations. I'm almost certain that iPlayer was released sometime in the summer (not December)? archive.org has a copy of iPlayer dated 13 Oct 2007[1], it also has a copy from Aug 07 but that doesn't load (at least not for me). Are you guys certain iPlayer was released in December 07, is Archive.org wrong? Andy [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20071013100045rn_1/www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Ant Miller tel: 07709 265961 email: ant.mil...@gmail.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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You are not going mad - iPlayer was running through the summer, but only as a beta and only with downloads available. You had to signup to get access. The full launch and the associated marketing push came in December once Streaming was also working. There were a lot of teething problems to sort out with the technology as well as substantial changes to workflow and processes. Once these things started to settle down, then came Streaming and the full launch... Cheers, ::: John O'Donovan ::: Chief Architect, BBC FMT Journalism ::: BBC Broadcast Centre ::: 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TS ::: john.odono...@bbc.co.uk ::: http://www.bbc.co.uk -Original Message- From: owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk [mailto:owner-backst...@lists.bbc.co.uk] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 12 December 2008 15:35 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? 2008/12/11 Mr I Forrester mail...@cubicgarden.com: Don't forget you can all take part in the iplayer birthday celebrations. I'm almost certain that iPlayer was released sometime in the summer (not December)? archive.org has a copy of iPlayer dated 13 Oct 2007[1], it also has a copy from Aug 07 but that doesn't load (at least not for me). Are you guys certain iPlayer was released in December 07, is Archive.org wrong? Andy [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20071013100045rn_1/www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ -- Computers are like air conditioners. Both stop working, if you open windows. -- Adam Heath - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/dec/09/bbc-iplayer-channel-4-itv Obviously I don't know anything about this. But I was wondering what people felt about iplayer against some of the other online video sites such as Hulu or even Joost.com? Are the new recommendations system a red herring or interesting? Does hulu even work on PS3, Wii and some phones? Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
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More here too: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2008/12/c4_and_itv_may_get_free_use_of_iplayer.html 2008/12/9 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/dec/09/bbc-iplayer-channel-4-itv Obviously I don't know anything about this. But I was wondering what people felt about iplayer against some of the other online video sites such as Hulu or even Joost.com? Are the new recommendations system a red herring or interesting? Does hulu even work on PS3, Wii and some phones? Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
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Also: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/televisions/0,39029474,49300271,00.htm 2008/12/9 Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] More here too: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2008/12/c4_and_itv_may_get_free_use_of_iplayer.html 2008/12/9 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/dec/09/bbc-iplayer-channel-4-itv Obviously I don't know anything about this. But I was wondering what people felt about iplayer against some of the other online video sites such as Hulu or even Joost.com? Are the new recommendations system a red herring or interesting? Does hulu even work on PS3, Wii and some phones? Cheers, Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002 -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
personally, still haven't managed to get hulu working - please feel free to recommend a proxy/other method. reckon i'd use it a lot though. Joost lost my interest (and IMHO damaged their brand) with poor content and standalone player - haven't bothered with the in-browser version yet. ITV made a strange choice in using Silverlight - works OK on my PC but still crashes my Mac browsers. They just don't have the content though. iPlayer is great on the Wii if you use WiiPlayer to sort out the interface, fantastic through a browser, kind of pointless on an iPhone without access over 3G (though the recently-discovered TV-out framework could make for a useful native application). It'd be nice to access it through an Xbox 360 (a la netflix). DRM and Kontiki prevent me using DL content (ditto 4OD - i'd rather use, gasp, bittorrent). My PS3 toting-friend is overjoyed with iPlayer on his telly, whilst another with Virgin Media never uses it. Hulu notwithstanding, I think iPlayer's easily the best experience for professionally-produced content, and the ease and speed of use makes me choose it over the illegal method mentioned above every time.
RE: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
Thanks Jim, I guess for a lot of people iPlayer on a Virgin box is ideal balance between web content and the tv. Like how Tivo now supports RSS feeds to download video content. It is a real shame about the consoles, so much power and so locked up. Ian Forrester This e-mail is: [x] private; [] ask first; [] bloggable Senior Producer, BBC Backstage Room 1044, BBC Manchester BH, Oxford Road, M60 1SJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: +44 (0)2080083965 mob: +44 (0)7711913293 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Tonge Sent: 09 December 2008 14:25 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online? personally, still haven't managed to get hulu working - please feel free to recommend a proxy/other method. reckon i'd use it a lot though. Joost lost my interest (and IMHO damaged their brand) with poor content and standalone player - haven't bothered with the in-browser version yet. ITV made a strange choice in using Silverlight - works OK on my PC but still crashes my Mac browsers. They just don't have the content though. iPlayer is great on the Wii if you use WiiPlayer http://defaced.co.uk/wiiplayer/ to sort out the interface, fantastic through a browser, kind of pointless on an iPhone without access over 3G (though the recently-discovered TV-out framework could make for a useful native application). It'd be nice to access it through an Xbox 360 (a la netflix). DRM and Kontiki prevent me using DL content (ditto 4OD - i'd rather use, gasp, bittorrent). My PS3 toting-friend is overjoyed with iPlayer on his telly, whilst another with Virgin Media never uses it. Hulu notwithstanding, I think iPlayer's easily the best experience for professionally-produced content, and the ease and speed of use makes me choose it over the illegal method mentioned above every time.
Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
Hulu notwithstanding, I think iPlayer's easily the best experience for professionally-produced content, and the ease and speed of use makes me choose it over the illegal method mentioned above every time. +1. Using the 4 watch online is just a horrible experience whereas connecting my laptop to my (standard-def) telly and streaming in high quality mode takes seconds and is very very close to broadcast-quality (in my subjective and myopic eyes). I'm not in on Saturdays so I've been enjoying watching Merlin in exactly this way for the last few weeks now. And of course it remembers where you were if you need to stop and start again later. I love iPlayer. For me it's possibly worth the license fee on its own, and would definitely be that level of value if the radio shows were available for non-time-limited download! Cheers, Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Iplayer the best video experience online?
I agree, the iPlayer is just perfect, a true BBC triumph. I've got myself a new Eee PC, the one with 12Gb of Flash storage, and XP. I can download hours of TV on the iPlayer download service and then I can watch it, without the need for power for over 5 hours. Long train journey without power sockets or internet access? No problem. Just everything about the service is great, from the great URLs to the picture quality - just great! If there were a long tail of programmes, even if they are just landmark ones this would make it better, but a full archive would be my aim (a library rather than a newsagent). The interface is great! I have a few ideas for updates though: - access to the pop out radio player from the hope page radio icons, one click to listen live! - sort searches by date broadcast - use of the bbc.co.uk account so that play history moves over machines and logins (I have lots of PCs) - UK regions on BBC One live player - Newswatch on the iPlayer... - More variety of channel idents - BBC HD channel content on in 720 and 1080 line formats - Faster encoding times, including pre-encoding so shows can be watched from the moment they end, or even start (as with the old iMP) - Automatic reminders about new epsiodes of shows you have already watched - Download option for radio shows - Podcast button for radio shows with podcasts and.. - A Science category that omits farming programmes! and of course - death to DRM! 2008/12/9 Phil Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hulu notwithstanding, I think iPlayer's easily the best experience for professionally-produced content, and the ease and speed of use makes me choose it over the illegal method mentioned above every time. +1. Using the 4 watch online is just a horrible experience whereas connecting my laptop to my (standard-def) telly and streaming in high quality mode takes seconds and is very very close to broadcast-quality (in my subjective and myopic eyes). I'm not in on Saturdays so I've been enjoying watching Merlin in exactly this way for the last few weeks now. And of course it remembers where you were if you need to stop and start again later. I love iPlayer. For me it's possibly worth the license fee on its own, and would definitely be that level of value if the radio shows were available for non-time-limited download! Cheers, Phil - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Brian Butterworth follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/briantist web: http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
