Re: [BRLTTY] Restarting brltty via .path service
Did you try systemctl stop brltty.service systemctl start brltty.service Not saying that will fix the problem, but maybe it will give you some information. On 10/12/23 16:14, Rob Hudson wrote: I have a display connected via USB to serial, so brltty is invoked with brltty@path.service. But how do you restart that? If I try, I get: Failed to restart brltty@path.service: Operation refused, unit brltty@path.service may be requested by dependency only (it is configured to refuse manual start/stop). Thanks. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Something is missing
On your Debian system confirm that the package brltty-x11 is installed, if not then install it. If you did that already, then I'm out of ideas. On 8/27/23 16:27, Life in Six Dots wrote: In Debian when I press CTRL+ALT+F3 I am taken to the TTY Failsafe Terminal. I DO have braille input. BUT I don't have braille input in the GUI or the terminal when I press CTRL+ALT+T. I'm not interested in inputting characters per se. It's being able to control the screen reader. To switch braille tables, and navigate. -Original Message- From: Chevelle Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 3:56 PM To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. ; Life in Six Dots Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Something is missing Can you explain more precisely what you are doing? Take Debian for example, the default console when the GUI is running is #7. If you press control-alt-f3 for example you would go to #3 which should be a text console. Are you saying nothing is read by BRLTTY? On 8/27/2023 8:45 AM, Life in Six Dots wrote: Hello Adrian, I have and it makes no difference. I'm currently on Ubuntu 22.04 MATE LTS and I can read the terminal but nothing in the GUI. On the other systems it's the opposite. I can read the GUI but not the terminal. I cannot fathom it. Paul -Original Message- From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:41 PM To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Have you tried F7 ??? On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: Is there a way to switch from text mode to the GUI as I think this might be my problem. Paul From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:55 PM To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' Subject: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Hello BRLTTY Developers, I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard input. I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will investigate this. Paul ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Something is missing
Can you explain more precisely what you are doing? Take Debian for example, the default console when the GUI is running is #7. If you press control-alt-f3 for example you would go to #3 which should be a text console. Are you saying nothing is read by BRLTTY? On 8/27/2023 8:45 AM, Life in Six Dots wrote: Hello Adrian, I have and it makes no difference. I'm currently on Ubuntu 22.04 MATE LTS and I can read the terminal but nothing in the GUI. On the other systems it's the opposite. I can read the GUI but not the terminal. I cannot fathom it. Paul -Original Message- From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:41 PM To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Have you tried F7 ??? On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: Is there a way to switch from text mode to the GUI as I think this might be my problem. Paul From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:55 PM To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' Subject: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Hello BRLTTY Developers, I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard input. I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will investigate this. Paul ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] is documentation correct? was Re: Misssing files in BRLTTY Ubuntu
I can't find brltty-setcaps on Debian either. Maybe there is a space in the command so '-setcaps' is a parameter, I don't know. I wonder if it was a script and the functionality was moved into the program, or if it isn't in Brltty 6.5. On 8/20/2023 10:02 AM, Life in Six Dots wrote: Hello Chevelle, Thanks for the reply. Here is the documentation for ‘brltty-setcaps’: https://brltty.app/doc/Linux.html#the-brltty-setcaps-script I know that I have to do it with root privileges, but I cannot kill the running process, or I won’t be able to read what is happening (I can’t hear speech). The command does not exist on my system: $ command -v brltty-setcaps I don’t get any output. Paul *From:*Chevelle *Sent:* Sunday, August 20, 2023 2:52 PM *To:* Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. ; Life in Six Dots *Subject:* Re: [BRLTTY] Misssing files in BRLTTY Ubuntu I can't find where setcaps is documented. configuration files for brltty are under /etc/brltty. I think in order to execute 'brltty -setcaps' you would have to kill the running instance of brltty first, and then invoke it mannually. To do that on Ubuntu, you would have to put 'sudo' in front of the commands. This probably isn't really what you want, it would be better to set something in a configuration file. On 8/20/2023 9:05 AM, Life in Six Dots wrote: Hello all, I have found that some files are missing on Ubuntu 23.04 (BRLTTY 6.5), and as such I can’t use the command brltty-setcaps to grant permission for cap_sys_admin, cap_sys_tty_config, cap_mknod. This explains why I can’t use the braille keyboard to input. Can someone with more experience than me check the build with the .deb file as I had this issue with Debian as well. How would I go about finding the missing files on my system? I can’t seem to access /bin/brltty to see if the setcaps file is there. I hope some can assist. Paul ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to:BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to:http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to:BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to:http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Misssing files in BRLTTY Ubuntu
I can't find where setcaps is documented. configuration files for brltty are under /etc/brltty. I think in order to execute 'brltty -setcaps' you would have to kill the running instance of brltty first, and then invoke it mannually. To do that on Ubuntu, you would have to put 'sudo' in front of the commands. This probably isn't really what you want, it would be better to set something in a configuration file. On 8/20/2023 9:05 AM, Life in Six Dots wrote: Hello all, I have found that some files are missing on Ubuntu 23.04 (BRLTTY 6.5), and as such I can’t use the command brltty-setcaps to grant permission for cap_sys_admin, cap_sys_tty_config, cap_mknod. This explains why I can’t use the braille keyboard to input. Can someone with more experience than me check the build with the .deb file as I had this issue with Debian as well. How would I go about finding the missing files on my system? I can’t seem to access /bin/brltty to see if the setcaps file is there. I hope some can assist. Paul ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to:BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to:http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] compiling latest for Bookworm?
Ok, picked up your update from GIT, then ./configure -q I get these warnings: configure: WARNING: Libbraille package not found: /usr /usr/local /usr/local/Libbraille /usr/local/libbraille /opt/Libbraille /opt/libbraille /mingw /mingw/Libbraille /mingw/libbraille configure: WARNING: Mikropuhe package not found: /usr /usr/local /usr/local/Mikropuhe /usr/local/mikropuhe /opt/Mikropuhe /opt/mikropuhe /mingw /mingw/Mikropuhe /mingw/mikropuhe configure: WARNING: Swift package not found: /usr /usr/local /usr/local/Swift /usr/local/swift /opt/Swift /opt/swift /mingw /mingw/Swift /mingw/swift configure: WARNING: Theta package not found: /usr /usr/local /usr/local/Theta /usr/local/theta /opt/Theta /opt/theta /mingw /mingw/Theta /mingw/theta Are these necessary for Debian? Thanks. On 8/15/23 14:44, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Chevelle on 2023/08/15 at 14:35 -0400] If I compile the latest release from source I find that the Python package python-all-dev has no installation candidate. I assume it wants python3-all-dev. If this is correct the developers may want to update the file Tools/reqpkgs.d/debian:python-all-dev Thanks. Done. Both were actually in the list so the change was to just remove python-all-dev. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
[BRLTTY] compiling latest for Bookworm?
In the documentation at https://brltty.app/download.html#current it says there are Debian packages at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/brltty/ This link seems to be broken. If I compile the latest release from source I find that the Python package python-all-dev has no installation candidate. I assume it wants python3-all-dev. If this is correct the developers may want to update the file Tools/reqpkgs.d/debian:python-all-dev Thanks. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] 问题反馈
Under the NVDA Braille settings there is a checkbox called 'Avoid Splitting Words When Possible'. Maybe that could help if you haven't changed it. On 7/20/2023 3:50 AM, ChengYing wrote: Brltty的开发人员们你们好,我来自中国,可以称呼我程溁。是这样的,我使用的是Windows 11的系统,平时需要使用NVDA屏幕月读器配合Metec盲文显示器查看盲文,但我发现每次只能显示38方,希望能够修复此问题或给出解决方案,非常感谢。 Hello, developers of Brltty, I am from China, you can call me Cheng Ying. That’s right, I’m using a Windows 11 system, and I usually need to use the NVDA screen monthly reader to view braille with the Metec braille display, but I find that it can only display 38 squares at a time, I hope to fix this problem or give a solution, thank you very much. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to:BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to:http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] testing display
You need to know what 'com' port the Alva is connected to, and that can change depending on what USB port your USB adapter is plugged into. You can tap the windows key and type 'device manager' then open the device manager and find the 'Com And LPT ports'. This can show you what you have. For serial connections, you can use the mode command to check if the 'com' port is alive. Open a command prompt with Windows-r or however you wish, then: mode com4:9600 If it says com4 is an illegal device name, then you know that port isn't working. After you know the port is working, try installing BRLTTY. On 4/18/2023 8:59 AM, Howard Traxler wrote: Good morning all, I have an ALVA 80-cell display that I'd like to use with my windows 10 computer with NVDA and some ham radio software. I have the choice of the old style serial or parallel connections. I'd like to plug in the display and be able to test to see if the computer is talking to the display. Wonder if someone could suggest what I might do to make such a test? Thank you anybody. Howard ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] GUI applications not working when on text console
On 4/17/2023 11:19 PM, Nicole Fontenot (Nicki) wrote: I am interested in how you setup metacity. I am not on Debian, but am largely familiar with it. Hello, I think I found an article that shows how to do it, but it is using a procedure like this. as root or using 'sudo' enter: apt install metacity From a shell prompt as my ID gsettings set org.mate.session.required-components windowmanager metacity Then I rebooted. It does work and seems to get rid of hung processes, although it may be slightly less convenient than Marco because some of the key bindings like alt-control-t to open the terminal aren't mapped by default. You could fall back to Marco using the 'gsettings' command and changing the last argument. On Apr 10, 2023, at 9:51 PM, Chevelle wrote: I set up Debian to use Metacity, which is not difficult. If you want the instructions, let me know, but it isn't a good long term solution. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] GUI applications not working when on text console
If you can kill the Marco process from another console and the problem clears, then you will know that is probably it. I set up Debian to use Metacity, which is not difficult. If you want the instructions, let me know, but it isn't a good long term solution. If the problem happens, you can get out of it by pressing insert-space in ORCA, or possibly by moving the mouse pointer. On 4/10/2023 3:55 PM, S. Massy wrote: Hello, Interesting idea. Might be worth trying a different window manager. Thanks, S.M. On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 03:50:32PM -0400, Chevelle wrote: Are you running Mate? Maybe it could be related to the bug where the Marco process becomes hung, but this is just a guess. On 4/10/2023 11:20 AM, S. Massy wrote: Hello, Starting in the last two years or so, I have been seeing applications become unresponsive when I am not in X. A typical example is the spotify client. If I set music playing and then switch to a TTY, playback will eventually stop, usually when a new track would start. Furthermore, trying to talk to the client via D-BUS from the console will block until I switch back to X. All of this used to work fine until circa 2021. I assume this is linked to some kind of security policy but I'm not sure where to start. Has anybody any suggestions? Thanks, S.M. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] GUI applications not working when on text console
Are you running Mate? Maybe it could be related to the bug where the Marco process becomes hung, but this is just a guess. On 4/10/2023 11:20 AM, S. Massy wrote: Hello, Starting in the last two years or so, I have been seeing applications become unresponsive when I am not in X. A typical example is the spotify client. If I set music playing and then switch to a TTY, playback will eventually stop, usually when a new track would start. Furthermore, trying to talk to the client via D-BUS from the console will block until I switch back to X. All of this used to work fine until circa 2021. I assume this is linked to some kind of security policy but I'm not sure where to start. Has anybody any suggestions? Thanks, S.M. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Sometimes single character input on laptop keyboard gives many copies of that character
I assume you have a graphical desktop running since you show a 'sudo' command. In Ubuntu and other distributions, you can turn off repeated keystrokes: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-repeat-keys.html.en I think there are also known bugs with terminal interaction that don't have to do with 'brltty'. On 3/4/2023 1:07 AM, Nicole Fontenot (Nicki) wrote: Hello! I hope you are well. brltty version: 6.5 Invocation: sudo brltty -n -r -p hw:0,0 brltty.conf: speech-driveren #espeak-ng keyboard-table laptop log-file/tmp/brltty.log screen-driver lx #Linux When I type into my Linux tty sometimes a character I pressed gets input more times than I pressed it. It seems to get a little worse when I use the backspace key. It also seems to be worse while inside TUI like vim or weechat. Is there something wrong with my config? I am a new user so I may have mis-configured something. Is there anything else about my setup that needs to be shared? Best wishes, Nicole F. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brlapi problems with the Canute
Are you using the BRLTTY 6.5 from December 19? I thought the Python warnings went away with that one. On 2/1/2023 3:47 PM, Stefan Moisei wrote: Hi Samuel, thanks for your reply. " What is telling you this? Is that NVDA, or is that a simple python program that you run?" " nvda. I can't install standalone brlapi due to 3. " Honestly I haven't followed. What the message seems to be saying is that you need the *32bit* version of python. " right. And that is exactly what I did, I installed python 3.8 and 3.11 32 bit, bbut they are not detected by the installer. -- Original Message -- From: "Samuel Thibault" To: "Stefan Moisei" ; "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY." Sent: 31.01.2023 23:07:28 Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] brlapi problems with the Canute Hello, Stefan Moisei, le sam. 28 janv. 2023 19:42:39 +, a ecrit: 1. I made it work in brltty, it works in the windows console. 2. I tried the brlapi from NVDA (I think it is 0.8) after net start brlapi and got this: brlapi.OperationError: for get display size, get driver name, write text etc.. What is telling you this? Is that NVDA, or is that a simple python program that you run? 3. I tried a standalone brlapi included in the brltty kit, but it refuses to install, claming I don't have 32 bit python, even though I tried 3.8 and 3.11. WWhat version should I use? Honestly I haven't followed. What the message seems to be saying is that you need the *32bit* version of python. 4. I also thought of using the java bindings, since I saw in the source that they exist, but could not find binaries. I have no idea what the proper way is to build java bindings on windows. Samuel ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Brltty on windows
It almost sounds like the older version of BRLTTY is still installed. You could go to Add/Remove Programs and remove BRLTTY and do a clean reinstall. On 12/22/2022 5:04 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Dietmar Segbert on 2022/12/22 at 08:32 +0100] brlap is enabled and run-brltty works in a window. You shouldn't be doing both since that'd mean two brltty processes trying to control the same braille device. If you're using enable-brlapi then check service.log, and if you're using run-brltty or debug-brltty then check brltty.log. On the combibralle is the text "no windows in foreground". That confirms that one of the brltty processes is communicating successfully with the braille device. That message - no windows in foreground - would have to do with how the Windows screen driver is seeing things. If i start the Brlapi-0.8.4.win-amd64.exe in the "python" directory under ../brltty/ a setup starts and did not find the python 32 bit version and did not compile something. Unless you're actually using BrlAPI via its Python bindings, that shouldn't matter. python 3.8.7 32bit ist installed. It is to find under the C:\Users\... python\python38\. I think it'd be unlikely that something at the system level would be looking there. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Beta build for brltty on Windows.
You can bring up the Device Manager in Windows and find Ports COM and LPT. This will show you what ports Windows thinks are active. Hit the Windows key and start typing Device. On 12/20/2022 1:18 PM, Pawel Loba wrote: I checked the contents of brltty.conf file and it states Alva on ComPort2 as it should be. And yes, under Linux on the same machine Alva is connected to ttyS1. On 12/20/2022 11:50 AM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Pawel Loba on 2022/12/20 at 06:33 -0500] All of the variants: screen-parameters wn:root=yes screen-parameters wn:followFocus=no screen-parameters wn:root=no screen-parameters wn:followFocus=yes screen-parameters wn:root=no screen-parameters wn:followFocus=no screen-parameters wn:root=yes screen-parameters wn:followFocus=yes made no difference. I believe that BRLTTy is active, howver the display does not refresh. It's possible that you're specifying (in brltty.conf) the wrong serial port, especially since the numbering is different on Linux versus on Windows. For example, ttyS1 on Linux would be COM2 on Windows. If your computer only has one serial port then the likelihood is that it's ttS0 on Linux and COM1 on Windows. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Trying to install
Maybe you can open a command prompt and run run-brltty.bat or debug-brltty.bat. These should be in the Brltty directory. When I try that it goes into a loopp saying it can't open the serial port, but my system may have a problem with the USB to serial converter driver, I'm not sure. If you can do that you should get a 'brltty.log' file in the same directory. Brltty should be able to work in the command prompt window without using NVDA. If you can get that far at least you know BRLTTY is working. On 12/19/2022 10:17 AM, Pawel Loba wrote: Hello, Just to let you know. I just downloaded and installed brltty-win-6.5-203-libusb-1.0 on my Windows 10 system. Part of the installation was to select a Braille display (Alva in my case) and a com port (com port 1 in my case). There was no error messages shown on the screen but my Alva 480 did not come up at all. Next, I tried to use my Alva 480 with NVDA and Narrator and in both cases I got no errors reported but my unit did not start up. On the same system, there is no issues running this unit in Slint 15 and Devuan in the VMware player virtual machine. Thank you, Pawel On 12/18/2022 12:14 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Howard Traxler on 2022/12/16 at 18:09 -0600] I have downloaded and installed BRLTTY. I've connected my Alva 380 via com1 to my windows 10 computer running NVDA. You might have problems with brltty itself so, to avoid that, please upgrade the new beta code (which identifies as 6.5-203). BRLTTY shows up in the Braille choices in NVDA, but I get an error (could not load the BRLTTY display) when I choose it. Someone else will need to help you with this one as I don't use Windows, so also not NVDA. Perhasp you could ask the NVDA people to let you know what this error means and possible ways to resolve it. For example, perhaps they're trying to start brltty in an older way which we no longer support. Also, maybe there's a way that you can capture an NVDA debug log which contains more details. I'm wondering if there is a way to tell if it's actually running and if it's ready for the next steps to make it work? You could try the Windows command (without the quotes) "sc query brlapi". It's output should contain a line that starts with the word "state", which should be "running". Another Windows command you might try (the quotes are required) is: tasklist -fi "imagename eq brltty.exe" ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] trying to install
Several of us have tried to get it working on Windows, but there seems to be a couple problems. If it doesn't work, you may want to wait until they can come out with an update or a suggested procedure. On 12/15/22 23:47, Howard Traxler wrote: Would like to install BRLTTY to use with NVDA and ALVA display. In configuration, I find that parallel is not supported, so I chose com1. Set up anva ABT80 to S1, 96,n,8,1. Got the cord hooked up: The manual said I need a nul modem? How can I tell if I have a match and things are working as they should? Thank you for any help. Howard ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] I can not run Tieman Braille Voyager with Brltty on Windows 10
Last time I tried it on Windows 10, 64-bit it didn't work. When I ran the 'Brlapi-0.8.4.win32.exe' it failed with a message that Python version -32 isn't found in the Windows registry, so the installation fails. Dave said he would look into it when his computer is repaired. On 11/29/2022 11:29 AM, Martin Beran wrote: Hello, I am afraid my following e-mail from Saturday evening did not arrive so I am trying to send it again: is it possible to run the Tieman Braille Voyager with Brltty on 32bit version of Windows 10 Home and NVDA? I have tried so hard but without success. I tried to install a very old driver from manufacturer, then installed Brltty with libusb win32 filter, after that I uninstalled original driver, in Brltty Configurator I chose Voyager but the result is the same in all cases: when I am trying to set up my braille display as Brltty in NVDA configuration I get an error that tells me Brltty can not be loaded. I do not know an english text of this error because I am using the Czech version of Windows and NVDA. My Tieman Braille Voyager is conected via USB. ALL USB drivers of my PC seem to be installed correctly - USB scanner and printer seem to work OK. Thank You very much, Martin Beran. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 nvda python
When I ran the 'Brlapi-0.8.4.win32.exe' it fails with a message that Python version -32 isn't found in the Windows registry, so the installation fails. On 10/26/2022 2:39 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Dietmar Segbert on 2022/10/26 at 15:38 +0200] J>which version of python must to be used to build the *.dll. I think brltty 6.5 was built with Python 3.8, but I won't be sure till I get that computer back. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 nvda python
Yes, I can wait, I think there was somebody else trying to use the Windows build also. When you get something, ready let us know and we can try it out. Thanks. On 10/25/2022 5:58 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Chevelle on 2022/10/24 at 21:01 -0400] when I run the batch files they look for brltty.conf in //etc/brltty.conf. Okay, that's a different problem. It's because the configuration directory, i.e. /etc/, isn't adjusted to be part of a relocatable build. This seemed reasonable (way back whenever) for a Linux system, but, really, I can see now that it's wrong. I can fix it for the next release. If you need a Windows build before then then are you able to wait a week (or more) for the computer that runs my Windows VM to be fixed? ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 nvda python
Ok, I understand now it is valid Windows syntax, but when I run the batch files they look for brltty.conf in //etc/brltty.conf. I was trying to figure out why that is: First I ran 'brlttycnf.exe'. Then 'run-brltty.bat'. I get this log 2022-10-24@20:50:48.125 BRLTTY 6.5 rev BRLTTY-6.5+ [https://brltty.app/] 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Log Level: info 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Messages Locale: en_US 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Messages Domain: brltty 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Messages Directory: C:/user/brltty-win-6.5-0-libusb-1.0/brltty-win-6.5-0-libusb-1.0/bin/../share/locale 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Working Directory: C:\user\brltty-win-6.5-0-libusb-1.0\brltty-win-6.5-0-libusb-1.0 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Configuration File: //etc/brltty.conf 2022-10-24@20:50:48.145 Preferences File: brltty.prefs On 10/24/2022 4:05 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Chevelle on 2022/10/24 at 15:26 -0400] It is interesting that the batch files in the Windows release contain this line. set programFolder=%~dp0 It doesn't seem to be valid Windows syntax. It doesn't appear to work on my system. Yes, it's valid. It means the directory component of the path to the script. Maybe what is intended is to get the current install directory. Perhaps it could say: set programFolder=%CD% 'CD' would be the current directory. No, that wouldn't be acceptabe. For example, it wouldn't work right if your current directory was somewhere else and you were invoking the script via its absolute path. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 nvda python
Thanks. I found some of the Python source. It is interesting that the batch files in the Windows release contain this line. set programFolder=%~dp0 It doesn't seem to be valid Windows syntax. It doesn't appear to work on my system. Maybe what is intended is to get the current install directory. Perhaps it could say: set programFolder=%CD% 'CD' would be the current directory. I'm sure Dave knows what is intended. On 10/23/2022 5:34 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Chevelle, le mer. 12 oct. 2022 16:45:33 -0400, a ecrit: Where would I find the python source code used to create the Windows driver? It's within the brltty source code, ./Build/mk-windows, which calls ./Windows/mkwin. Samuel ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.5 nvda python
Where would I find the python source code used to create the Windows driver? I downloaded brltty-win-6.5-0-libusb-1.0. It appears the windows installer Brlapi-0.8.4.win32.exe. tries to install a DLL created with Python, but I don't know what is in that code. I suspect there is an easier way to do this, but I don't know for sure. On 10/11/2022 3:27 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Dietmar Segbert, le mar. 11 oct. 2022 18:39:00 +0200, a ecrit: I have now installed python 32bit version 3.8.10 installer for windows, which is the last installerpackage. But there is no success. I become the same error, that there is no entry in the registry for the python version. I'm getting the same, I have no idea what is going wrong. Possibly NVDA people will have an idea since they use it. Samuel ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Using BRLTTY with touch screen input?
The subject of this message talks about touch screen input. Most Braille displays have keys you can press to input Braille characters. I'm not sure Linux supports touch screen input on the console. You probably need to have a GUI running, such as Mate desktop, along with if you want to get touch gestures like Android does. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. If you have an Android phone and a Braille display you could try using BRLTTY on that to see how it works. The Linux on phone support is mostly at a phase where it is useful only to developers at this point because a lot of the Linux support is in an Alpha state for any given hardware. I think Ubuntu Touch now has full support for a Pixel 3a, hopefully a lot more devices will follow. See https://tuxphones.com/google-pixel-3a-full-stable-ubports-linux-ubuntu-touch-feature-support/ On 7/11/2022 5:01 PM, Rich Morin wrote: Summary I have some persistent notions about adding touch screen input (TSI) to Linux-based cell phones. The motivation is to provide cheap, portable, and flexible communication and computing power to blind and visually impaired users. I'd like some clues about whether and how to use BRLTTY as part of the stack. Discussion I gather that BRLTTY can accept braille input and feed it to the Linux console and that it also has some screen review and speech output capability. Assuming that another subsystem is capable of detecting touch screen input, here are some obvious (if naive) questions: - Is BRLTTY ever used with input-only devices (e.g., braille keyboards)? - Is the speech output adequate to support convenient user interaction? - What BRLTTY interface(s) would be the best (e.g., easiest) to use? - What data formats does BRLTTY accept (e.g., ASCII, Braille, Unicode)? - Is there a preferred software interface for control functions? - What other software subsystems should I consider incorporating? The lowest level user interface I have in mind for the device would be the Linux console. Ideally, it would support a variety of higher-level programs. The Stack Here is a terse summary of the sort of stack I have in mind... Hardware - Several billion Android cell phones have been sold. Many of these cannot run current versions of Android. So, they are cheaply and readily available. OS - There are several Linux variants which run on cell phones. postmarketOS, based on Alpine Linux, concentrates on older Android devices. TSI - This subsystem would be structured as a graph of lightweight processes (i.e., Actors) and implemented using Elixir and assorted libraries. BRLTTY - This would accept input, hand it off to the console, and provide user feedback in the form of generated speech. ??? - higher-level programs (e.g., menu systems, note takers, shells, terminal switches, text editors) Comments? Clues? Suggestions? -r ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Convert from 6-dot braille coding to human-readable text
NFBtrans had a back translation function. It wasn't hard to compile on Linux, but it is old software now. On 1/5/2021 3:34 AM, Xuebing Wang wrote: Hi community, I am trying to convert from 6-dot braille coding to human-readable text (e.g. ascii), any suggestions on if there are any current solutions or source codes that I can leverage? Thanks. Xuebing Wang ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] How to integrate BSI into a Linux cell phone?
The Orbit Writer is new, so I have no experience with it. http://www.orbitresearch.com/product/orbit-writer/ There is also a Podcast at this link discussing it, which I haven't listened to yet. http://www.dr-carter.com/ On 8/17/2020 11:13 PM, Rich wrote: On Aug 17, 2020, at 16:47, Chevelle wrote: Braille screen input would be fine, but the first challenge would be to get Linux installed and have some accessible applications. Agreed. I've been working on that problem, mostly by assembling a machine-readable list of plausible applications and some scripts to perform the installations. I've been concentrating on Debian, so Mobian would be a drop-in, but reworking things to support Alpine Linux shouldn't be all that hard. In any case, braille screen input is a larger and longer-term effort, but I wanted to get some feedback on it before diving in... Many Braille displays already have keys that allow Braille input. If I remember correctly, some company is selling a $99 Braille keyboard that has Bluetooth. Typically, braille displays are extremely expensive. I'd love to have a link to the $99 braille keyboard, if someone has it. I would think your time would be better spent on making a Linux distribution accessible, on phones. ... This site shows Linux projects for use on phones. https://many.tuxphones.com/ Thanks for the link! I notice that most of the listings are for postmarketOS, echoing their devices page (https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices). My suspicion is that postmarketOS is the best candidate for a base distribution, but clearly this is subject to change at any time. All of which brings me to a question of social engineering. What is the best way to build momentum for a blind-accessible Linux distribution for phones? If each interested person has a different phone and uses a different version of Linux, the community will be so fragmented that nothing will come together. So, my tendency is to start with a particular base distribution or two (e.g., postmarketOS, Mobian) and start adding packages. However, another possible focal point is the PinePhone, which supports a slew of OSes. So, I don't know. -r ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] [OT] How to integrate BSI into a Linux cell phone?
Braille screen input would be fine, but the first challenge would be to get Linux installed and have some accessible applications. I find it hard to imagine using Braille Screen Input for any serious work. Many Braille displays already have keys that allow Braille input. If I remember correctly, some company is selling a $99 Braille keyboard that has Blue tooth. I would think your time would be better spent on making a Linux distribution accessible, on phones. I don't want to discourage you. This site shows Linux projects for use on phones. https://many.tuxphones.com/ On 8/12/2020 11:39 AM, Rich wrote: Although this question is somewhat off-topic, I'm hoping that some folks here will find it interesting enough to give me a bit of slack. Anyway, here goes... Background I'm a sighted, semi-retired, volunteer developer who is very interested in the possibility of re-purposing Android cell phones as blind-accessible computing and communication devices. There are a number of projects working on re-using the billions of aging cell phones that are out there. Some, such as LineageOS, start with an open source version of Android. Others, such as postmarketOS and Mobian, start with a more vanilla flavor of Linux (e.g., Alpine, Debian). Although the first approach makes tons of Android software available, most of this is GUI-based, so accessibility will generally be a challenge. Basing the system on Linux allows a wealth of CLI-based software to be used and helps to anchor the resulting system more closely in the open source community. Challenges One of the biggest challenges, I suspect, will be providing an accessible form of text input. Most screen-based keyboards for cell phones aren't suitable, a physical keyboard would add cost and bulk, and voice recognition (without the support of cloud computing) still seems to be beyond the phone's capabilities. So, I've been speculating about how to support Braille Screen Input (BSI) on a Linux-based cell phone. BSI is available on Android, Fire OS, and iOS (please let me know if I'm missing any others!), but I haven't found any indication that anyone is working on supporting it for any form of Linux. I think I have a handle on how to architect the front end of the code, using a set of Actors (lightweight processes) running on a foundation of Elixir, Erlang, and OTP. However, I'm totally out of my depth when it comes to interfacing the code to other apps, the window system, and the rest of the OS. Should I be looking into D-Bus, GTK, Qt, or what? Also, are there any ways the code could leverage BRLTTY, Emacspeak, Orca, etc? How would typical blind users want a BSI subsystem to act in this context? I'm really confused here, so I'm asking for advice, comments, and so forth. -r P.S. There is at least one physical keyboard which isn't totally out of the question for use with a cell phone. It's a folding keyboard/touchpad combo that supports both Bluetooth and USB. It's about 6" x 3.8" x 0.5" when folded up and 12" x 3.8" x 0.25" when unfolded: Foldable Bluetooth Keyboard, Jelly Comb Dual Mode Bluetooth & USB Wired Rechargable Portable Mini BT Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad Mouse for Android, Windows, PC, Tablet-Black https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S9XZDGY ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run
Yes, Dave, the batch files could presumably be written in Visual BASIC. The example seems to contain a couple lines of VBS code. I think it was intended as a drop-in solution for existing batch files. I haven't done much with VBS. On 10/8/2019 10:39 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Chevelle on 2019/10/08 at 20:58 -0400] Yes, possibly when you zip the files and move it to another system, the security properties get changed. Perhaps, but, to my knowledge, the .zip file isn't being made with any special security properties. There is a description of how to create a batch file that elevates itself at this URL. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6811372/how-to-code-a-bat-file-to-always-run-as-admin-mode The explanation of that code says that it creates a .vbs script which elevates the privilegs and then reruns the original .bat script. Mightn't it be better, then, to just rewrite each of the three .bat scruots as .vbs scripts? ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run
The log file should be in the same directory where the run-debug.bat is. It is called debug.log. If you notice an error about not connecting to a named pipe, it probably means it needs elevated privileges. On 10/7/2019 6:51 PM, Oriana Neulinger wrote: Sorry if this creates a new thread, i couldn't figure out how to reply to a thread presented in "digest mode". Further experiments: 1) On 6.0, running the app "brltty in debug mode" caused a command prompt to open and run, but we were unable to set any choices, it got stuck in a loop in not finding a usb device (pebkac issue, later solved), but we were unable to find the log afterward. Still, if we can hack this bat, it might provide some kind of solution, since the program was at least found. 2) Downloaded and installed 5.6. There is still no app to run BRLTTY in the apps menu, and the command prompt still doesn't recognize the command. After successfully completing the setup of the alva's new serial-to-usb converter (whoops) and correctly setting the configurator app we tried the debugging app again and after the command prompt displayed a whole lot of... serial: output: (hex) output packet: sent: (hex) ...the alva changed it's display from the alva boot-up message to the letter "t" regardless of active window and cursor position. Hey, a mote of success. We still couldn't find the log file though. 3) conclusion: Unless the debugging application is a totally different binary, i think i might be able to walk her through creating a script to put in her startup menu, but now it seems we have a new problem *sweatdrop* ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run
Yes, possibly when you zip the files and move it to another system, the security properties get changed. There is a description of how to create a batch file that elevates itself at this URL. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6811372/how-to-code-a-bat-file-to-always-run-as-admin-mode I did it as an experiment, and it will install, but as they point out, it might get flagged by virus scanners because it was a technique that viruses use. It is also possible to use Windows elevate programs in the batch file. After Brltty is installed and NVDA is configured to work with it, it only works at the login screen. After that it stops working. Oddly it also works if the User Account Control Dialogue comes up. I'm not sure if this is an NVDA issue. This is a sample batch file: set "params=%*" cd /d "%~dp0" && ( if exist "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" del "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" ) && fsutil dirty query %systemdrive% 1>nul 2>nul || ( echo Set UAC = CreateObject^("Shell.Application"^) : UAC.ShellExecute "cmd.exe", "/k cd ""%~sdp0"" && %~s0 %params%", "", "runas", 1 >> "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" && "%temp%\getadmin.vbs" && exit /B ) @echo off "%~dp0bin\brltty" -I if NOT %ERRORLEVEL% == 0 exit /B %ERRORLEVEL% net start BrlAPI On 10/6/2019 11:57 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Chevelle on 2019/10/06 at 20:34 -0400] I still don't have it working. The message BRLTTY 6.0 rev unknown comes up if you run 'brltty' manually. n. I don't know if that is harmless or not. Not withstanding my previous explanation, I just built the latest brltty code on a Windows 10 system using its mkwin script in the usual way. I get the following output when I cd to the directory where the install.bat script is and type install: BRLTTY 6.0 rev BRLTTY-6.0-76-gbb47e22eM [http://brltty.app/] brltty.exe: service installed: BrlAPI The Braille API (BrlAPI) service is starting. The Braille API (BrlAPI) service was started successfully. So, two things: First: The revision isn't unknown - it's displayed correctly on the banner line. Second: It isn't reporting that the service name is invalid. The BrlAPI service is being installed and started successfully. I suppose that my account on this system could have been defined in "the right way", whatever that is, but I've no idea what to look for. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run
I don't have Windows 7 any more. I think one problem with Windows 10 is that the device driver fails to install even if you log in as administrator. I got around it by using run command prompt as Administrator. Maybe that should be added to the README file. For example, one way is to tap the windows key, then type comm to find Command Prompt. Then tap the applications key and arrow up and down to Run As Administrator and press enter. Make sure you hear the chime and the User Account control Dialogue comes up, and answer yes. Then run the install.bat file. There is another common method to change the permissions on the Brltty directory, but I didn't try that. I still don't have it working. The message BRLTTY 6.0 rev unknown comes up if you run 'brltty' manually. n. I don't know if that is harmless or not. I may try more experiments later this week. On 10/6/2019 5:27 PM, Dave Mielke wrote: [quoted lines by Chevelle on 2019/10/06 at 17:01 -0400] I had an older version, perhaps 5.2 working on Windows 7. Since the other person was asking about it, I decided to try it on Windows 10. We need to separate the two issues. One issue is what works on Windows 7 versus what works on Windows 10, and the other is does any of this change when using an older release of brltty versus when using a newer one. I'd appreciate it if these two transitions could be tested separately rather than both at once. If you look at the README file it says "This is an unofficial build of BRLTTY 6.0 which also includes a few fixes for Windows" Yes, there are a coulpe of special patchdes for the Windows build, but the build is official. The wording about it being an unofficial build is old and will be fixed. When I run the install.bat, I get these errors: BRLTTY 6.0 rev unknown [http://brltty.app/] brltty.exe: OpenSCManager error 5: Access is denied. The service name is invalid. The first error comes from the batch file running "brltty -I". As mentioned above, we need to know if it works with 5.2 on Windows 10 and/or if it fails with 6.0 on Windows 7. In other words, did Windows introduce a new restriction or did we introduce a bug. ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Windows First Run
Search for brltty.exe and see if it was installed. There is also a file called run-debug.bat which should produce a log file. I suspect that the 6.0 release doesn't work on Windows 10, but somebody may have better results. On 10/4/2019 6:32 PM, Oriana Neulinger wrote: Hi, I'm trying to help my friend set up an ALVA 544 on her windows 10 PC. We are using a serial-to-usb converter cable from the same brand that's worked for a user on the NVDA forums. However, despite installing BRLTTY twice, i guess the path didn't get set, as her Windows returns the error message "is not recognized as an internal or external command" when she tries to use the command prompt to run the program. I cannot find any troubleshooting information for this stage of the process, can anyone suggest a next step? Thank you, Oriana ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty