RE: MS Works Database

[Jim Davis]

Conversions Plus will do many, many formats (including Works 2,3,4 and
Mac) and it's only $70.  It's saved my butt often.

http://www.dataviz.com/products/conversionsplus/

I'm not sure how well it'll work on your file (it does convert - but
sometimes things are lost in the transalation) since I've never used
Works.

It's well worth the money.

Jim Davis
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Birgit Pauli-Haack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 12:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: MS Works Database
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I trying to find out how I can convert a database created with MS
> Works in the *.wdb format can be converted in something else,
> without having installed MS Works installed on a system.
> 
> I have tried Microsoft's site as well as Google and all that turns
> up there is that you need to open the file in Works and save it in a
> different format. But I also saw that this information is about two
> years old, so maybe someone has a solution for the above question...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Birgit
> 
> 
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Re: Multiply in Output Statement??

[DDB Lists]

What most likely would also work is to wrap it in a function like

#int(myrecord.myvar * 100)#

or else let your database do the calculation


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> > I've been building some admin pages that have stuff like:
> >
> >   #myrecord.myvar * 100# 
> >
> > This runs perfectlly locally, but once out on the server... 

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RE: OT .Net? Java? No Thanks, We'll Take Macromedia Instead

[Mike Brunt]

Howard, how established is PACS or EMR with the doctors?  Just curious
because I spend several years in TeleRadiology/PACS.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
Web Site http://www.webapper.com
Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper 

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT .Net? Java? No Thanks, We'll Take Macromedia Instead

One of my doctors is part of a very large group. Every member of the medical
staff carries around a wireless "clipboard" .. it is really just a laptop
designed to be held and used like a clipboard, or an 8x10 PDA.  The entire
office is digital. No paper charts or records of any kind (except archives).
It's a very cool set up. It's WindowsXP. Full internet access, too.

If medical staff wanted an application they could access from any modern
computer, then Flash would make a good deal of sense.




~~
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www.venturacountystar.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:58 AM
> To:   CF-Talk
> Subject:  Re: OT .Net? Java? No Thanks, We'll Take Macromedia Instead
>
>
>
> As a quick aside, I don't know if I see their product as being overly
> successful in hospitals. It seems that their product is dependent on
> running
> in a browser. Most doctors (my brother and father being two of them) carry
>
> around PDAs with their patient info, not cumbersome laptops. Unless the UI
>
> was designed with PDAs and other handheld devices in mind (the article
> doesn't mention that), it's a nice-sounding product, but not terribly
> usable
> in the real world.
>
>

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OT: MS Works Database

[Birgit Pauli-Haack]

Hi,

I trying to find out how I can convert a database created with MS
Works in the *.wdb format can be converted in something else,
without having installed MS Works installed on a system.

I have tried Microsoft's site as well as Google and all that turns
up there is that you need to open the file in Works and save it in a
different format. But I also saw that this information is about two
years old, so maybe someone has a solution for the above question...

Regards,

Birgit

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Re: Multiply in Output Statement??

[Les Mizzell]

>This syntax is valid in CFMX, but not in most earlier versions of CF. In
>those versions, you can only wrap single variables or functions within pound
>signs. You can work around this by using the Evaluate function to evaluate
>the expression.
>  
>

It looks like a large hosting company like Affinity would update their
darned servers at some point.

Crap - I got this stuff on close to 600 pages.  ARGH!!


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RE: Multiply in Output Statement??

[Dave Watts]

> I've been building some admin pages that have stuff like:
>
>   #myrecord.myvar * 100# 
>
> This runs perfectlly locally, but once out on the server... 

This syntax is valid in CFMX, but not in most earlier versions of CF. In
those versions, you can only wrap single variables or functions within pound
signs. You can work around this by using the Evaluate function to evaluate
the expression.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: OT-Flash-Creating Flv's

[Critz]

oi Michael!!

aye, cheers mate. i'll give it a gander


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Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:21:56 PM, you wrote:

MG> The best way to get the goods in flv is Sorenson Squeezevery cool tool
MG> :)

MG> http://www.sorenson.com/content.php?cats=2

MG> I usually get excellent quality from it.


MG> On 9/18/03 9:36 PM, "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> oi Michael!!
>> 
>> no  clue,  i  had  only exported an imported video from flash didn't
>> really know how to go about
>> it...
>> 

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RE: OO modeling Hell

[Jim Davis]

> Sounds like you're on the right track.
> 
> Regarding your sample approach below, I'd have to say that this
depends on
> how you want to code it, and what the requirements of your application
> are.
> You could have one event object that contains an array/collection of
time
> slots and venues, or you can have an array/collection that has a
single
> event which in turn has a single timeslot and venue.

That's an idea too... I like it.  I'm still getting used to thinking in
collections of references...

But implementing the actual objects as simply as possible and
abstracting the complexity to a series of specialized collection is
definitely appealing.  One aspect of this is that we're constantly
trying to come up with new ways to group the data making it easier for
people to find what they're looking for (searching by attributes like
"outdoors" or "family friendly", creating custom lists, etc).
 
> When I think about an event, I don't think of it having multiple times
- I
> think about each time being a separate event, and the schedule is a
> collection of individual events.  However, that's me.  This sort of
thing

In this case "performance" may be a better term - but our "events" may
be performances, exhibits, workshops, etc - but it sometimes helps to
think of them as performances.

> When I made reference to "query your data", the actual location of the
> data
> doesn't matter - if it's in memory, then your functions/methods will
be
> written to use the memory, if it's in a database, the
functions/methods
> will

This is actually a goal (a personal one) for this - I want to be able,
later, to add persistence data storage types easily (different
databases, flat file, etc).  Eventually I would like to spin this system
off as a general purpose large-scale event planning tool so I'd like to
lay the groundwork early.

> Are you developing this in CFMX?  If so, you can't do a FULL
> implementation
> of OO principles yet (it'd be nice if MX natively supported raising
events
> between objects), but you can get real close now.  If you are
developing

Yup - CFMX.  We're still on CF 5, actually, but now that our host is
installing 6.1 we're moving up.

This will end being a hybrid at first no matter how I end up - basically
an OO-ish implementation in a procedural wrapper of sorts (I don't have
time to do the entire site over yet).

But I want to get it as close as possible so that I can learn this stuff
if nothing else.

> Once you get thinking in OO terms (and this IS a shift in thinking
from
> procedural languages), life will get easier, and you will have other
> options
> available to you.  Like converting your CFMX objects into web
services.
> (yes, I know you can do this sort of thing with procedural languages
too,
> but I find it's much easier to understand if you understand OO
> principles).

That's something I may do soon... this is a pretty big event around
here.  One "nice to have" desire is to provide consumable feeds to the
local media outlets.  I had been doing this in a really primitive
manner, but web services make infinitely more sense.
 
> So, the bottom line is to look at your application in an OO manner,
and
> decide which object model makes the most sense for you.  I can't tell
you
> this, but hopefully I've helped you understand things enough to be
able to
> make the choice.

Definitely.  Lots to think about.

Thanks again for the time,

Jim Davis


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Re: OT-Flash-Creating Flv's

[Michael Greenberg]

The best way to get the goods in flv is Sorenson Squeezevery cool tool
:)

http://www.sorenson.com/content.php?cats=2

I usually get excellent quality from it.


On 9/18/03 9:36 PM, "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> oi Michael!!
> 
> no  clue,  i  had  only exported an imported video from flash didn't
> really know how to go about
> it...
> 

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Multiply in Output Statement??

[Les Mizzell]

Evening,

This seems too simple. I've been building some admin pages that have 
stuff like:

  #myrecord.myvar * 100# 

This runs perfectlly locally, but once out on the server...

Just in time compilation error
Invalid parser construct found on line 32 at position 63. ColdFusion was 
looking at the following text*

Huh? What have I got wrong?


 



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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Stacy Young]

I started JSP development at the same time I started CF. I gravitated to
CF because I was moving a hell of a lot quicker (proficiency wise). I
still use both to this day because our projects demand it...but most
JSP/Java developers here are not all that interested in CFML...even for
the presentation level. I think for many, once you're deep down one road
there's a natural resistance to want to trace back and check out other
options...but the ones that *do* do that...have the advantage...their
technology choices in each instance are more objective.

Just my personal observation/opinion...

Cheers,

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 18, 2003 8:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

Isn't it true that the die-hard CFML coders are just as fervent?  The
same goes
for the C and VB coders, right.
You use the tools that are easiest for you, even if in the end, the
final result
is the same or similar.

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Re: OT-Flash-Creating Flv's

[Critz]

oi Michael!!

no  clue,  i  had  only exported an imported video from flash didn't really know 
how to go about
it...


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Thursday, September 18, 2003, 9:19:03 PM, you wrote:

MG> Critz,
MG> What are you using to create your flv? Are you using Squeeze? What are your
MG> compression settings also.

MG> Thanks,
MG> Michael


MG> On 9/18/03 7:08 PM, "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> oi CF-Talk,!!
>> 
>> everytime  I import video into flashmxit turns out very pixelly...large
>> pixels... any ideas as
>> to how i can get around this? When i export it to an flv, it still looks
>> pixelly :(
>> 
>> 
>> Crit
>> 

MG> 
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RE: OT .Net? Java? No Thanks, We'll Take Macromedia Instead

[Owens, Howard]

One of my doctors is part of a very large group. Every member of the medical
staff carries around a wireless "clipboard" .. it is really just a laptop
designed to be held and used like a clipboard, or an 8x10 PDA.  The entire
office is digital. No paper charts or records of any kind (except archives).
It's a very cool set up. It's WindowsXP. Full internet access, too.

If medical staff wanted an application they could access from any modern
computer, then Flash would make a good deal of sense. 




~~
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Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co.
www.venturacountystar.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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~~

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:58 AM
> To:   CF-Talk
> Subject:  Re: OT .Net? Java? No Thanks, We'll Take Macromedia Instead
> 
> 
> 
> As a quick aside, I don't know if I see their product as being overly 
> successful in hospitals. It seems that their product is dependent on
> running 
> in a browser. Most doctors (my brother and father being two of them) carry
> 
> around PDAs with their patient info, not cumbersome laptops. Unless the UI
> 
> was designed with PDAs and other handheld devices in mind (the article 
> doesn't mention that), it's a nice-sounding product, but not terribly
> usable 
> in the real world.
> 
> 
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Re: OT-Flash-Creating Flv's

[Michael Greenberg]

Critz,
What are you using to create your flv? Are you using Squeeze? What are your
compression settings also.

Thanks,
Michael


On 9/18/03 7:08 PM, "Critz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> oi CF-Talk,!!
> 
> everytime  I import video into flashmxit turns out very pixelly...large
> pixels... any ideas as
> to how i can get around this? When i export it to an flv, it still looks
> pixelly :(
> 
> 
> Crit
> 

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RE: cfc vs cfinclude

[Owens, Howard]

Well, wait then and see what ads up.  Fight the battles that really need to
be fought (where bottlenecks are) and don't slow down your development
process with fighting battles that won't necessarily impact performance
enough to worry about.

H.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Samuel Neff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 6:51 PM
> To:   CF-Talk
> Subject:  RE: cfc vs cfinclude
> 
> 'cause sometimes the little things add up.  :-)
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:21 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: cfc vs cfinclude
> > 
> > 
> > (Why are people so focused on micro-performance issues instead of the 
> > bigger picture stuff?)
> > 
> > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> > 
> 
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RE: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?

[Rick Faircloth]

Thanks, Ryan...

The CFOUTPUT's were causing the problem.  I guess I just had it in my head
that the
variables would not be processed correctly without the CFOUTPUT's there.
Never thought to take them out...I guess it's kinda like #'s:  For so many
of us
it's "the more the merrier!"

Oh, well...live and learn.

And, yes, I do read up on the syntax quite a bit...I had my nose in a book
all day trying
to sort out the issue...but sometimes you just can't find what you need
without experiencing it...
and with help from friends...

Thanks,

Rick

>  -Original Message-
>  From: Ryan Emerle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:00 PM
>  To: CF-Talk
>  Subject: RE: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
>
>
>  You are adding the string "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 *
>  3.95)#" as the value.  Which will be something like:
>
>  "11.85"
>
>  You probably just cant seen the CFOUTPUT tags in the browser
>  because they are seen as tags.
>
>  Change the code to this:
>  
>QuerySetCell(Session.Cart,"PhotoFileName",Form.PhotoFileName)>
>  
>  
>"Amount",Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95))>
>
>  And, i'd recommend reading up on your CF syntax.
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
>  To: CF-Talk
>  Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
>
>
>  This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost
>  nowhere...
>
>  Anyway...(deep breath)...
>
>
>  Excerpts from the code:
>
>  The formfield:
>
>  
>
>   0
>   1
>   2
>   3
>   4
>   5
>   6
>   7
>   8
>   9
>   10
>
>  
>
>
>
>  Sent to another page for processing:
>
>
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>"#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
>"#Form.S4x6#")>
>  
>"#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
>
>  #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
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RE: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?

[Rick Faircloth]

Hi, Mosh.

Yes, the CFOUTPUT's were the problem...leaving them out solved the issue.
Thanks for the tip...

Rick


>  -Original Message-
>  From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:08 PM
>  To: CF-Talk
>  Subject: RE: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
>
>
>  > >   "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
>
>
>  Rick:
>
>  What are the CFOUTPUT tags doing in your CFSET tag?
>  Shouldn't this just be:
>
> Evaluate(Form.S4x6 *
>  3.95))>
>
>  My guess is that your SESSION.cart.amount variable is really
>  equal to:
>
>   11.85
>
>  and when that string gets spat out to the browser in the
>  error message, your
>  browser is hiding the CFOUTPUT tags because it assumes they
>  are HTML tags
>  that it is unfamiliar with.  Check the HTML source code.
>
>  --
>  Mosh Teitelbaum
>  evoch, LLC
>  Tel: (301) 942-5378
>  Fax: (301) 933-3651
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>
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
>  > To: CF-Talk
>  > Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
>  >
>  >
>  > This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get
>  almost nowhere...
>  >
>  > Anyway...(deep breath)...
>  >
>  > Quick question:  Does taking a number from a formfield and
>  putting it into
>  > a "session.cart.amount" variable automatically turn it
>  into a string
>  > variable?
>  >
>  > I'm sending a number from a formfield and in testing the
>  amount from the
>  > formfield,
>  > I can multiply it, format it using DollarFormat, etc...
>  behaves like a
>  > number should.
>  >
>  > But once the formfield variable is placed in the Session Query as
>  > session.cart.amount,
>  > it behaves like a string...I can't use DollarFormat...it
>  returns an error
>  > that the variable session.cart.amount
>  > has to be a number...if I use
>  DollarFormat(Val(session.cart.amount)), the
>  > value of the variable is 0...zero...
>  > it becomes a valueless string...
>  >
>  > I've haven't worked with the "session-type" queries created with
>  > Session.Cart = QueryNew etc., before
>  > and I guess I'm missing something...this should be simple
>  stuff...but...
>  >
>  > If anyone has any suggestions about why this is going on,
>  I'd be grateful
>  > for the help...
>  >
>  > Rick
>  >
>  >
>  > Excerpts from the code:
>  >
>  > The formfield:
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  >  0
>  >  1
>  >  2
>  >  3
>  >  4
>  >  5
>  >  6
>  >  7
>  >  8
>  >  9
>  >  10
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Sent to another page for processing:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > 
>  >   > "#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
>  >   > "#Form.S4x6#")>
>  > 
>  >   > "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
>  >
>  > #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
>  >
>  >
>  > -Note: CURRENTLY, ON THE LINE ABOVE, I GET
>  THE FOLLOWING
>  > ERROR:
>  >
>  > Parameter 1 of function DollarFormat which is now "11.85"
>  must be a number
>  >
>  > I've tried using Val to create a number out of what must
>  be a string, but
>  > that will create a variable with a value of 0 (zero)...
>  >
>  > --
>  > --
>  > ---
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  >  
>  >   PhotoFileName: #PhotoFileName#
>  >   Quantity: #Quantity#
>  >   Size:  #Size#
>  >   Amount:  #DollarFormat(Amount)#
>  >  
>  >
>  >   #DollarFormat(Amount)#
>  >
>  > Evaluate(Session.Total+Session.Cart.Amount)>
>  >
>  > 
>  > 
>  >
>  > Order Total:
>  #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
>  >
>  > 
>  >
>  >
>  >
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RE: OO modeling Hell

[Shawn Grover]

Sounds like you're on the right track.

Regarding your sample approach below, I'd have to say that this depends on
how you want to code it, and what the requirements of your application are.
You could have one event object that contains an array/collection of time
slots and venues, or you can have an array/collection that has a single
event which in turn has a single timeslot and venue.

When I think about an event, I don't think of it having multiple times - I
think about each time being a separate event, and the schedule is a
collection of individual events.  However, that's me.  This sort of thing is
the type that will spawn many different opinions, all of them correct in one
way or another.  The bottom line is how YOU think about an event, and what
the application requires of the event object.  The rest is just a different
approach to implementation.

>From the OO perspective, you have objects and collections.  Collections are
in fact objects, but sometimes it's easier to think of them as being a
little different.  A collection is used whereever you can have more than
one.  i.e. An event can have many timeslots, so the event object would have
a collection to hold the timeslots (normally a plain array will do the
trick, but this really depends on your coding language).

Your application sounds to me like your object approach should be something
like this:

Schedule Object (Collection of timeslots)
  - Timeslot object
  - Event Object
  - Venue Object
  - List Events By Time method
  - List Venues by event method
  - List Times for event method
  - Add Event method (i.e. Schedule.AddEvent(object Timeslot, object Event,
object Venue)  )
  - Remove Event method (i.e. Schedule.RemoveEvent(object Timeslot, object
Event)  )
etc.

Try not to duplicate your data if you don't need to.  Having an array of
event objects in your timeslot AND venue objects would be a management pain.
Probably simpler to either allow duplicate timeslot objects for the same
time period, or go with a collection of events that can have a timeslot
property.  Another option is to create different objects depending on how
you are looking at the data - If I'm looking at things from an events point
of view, then an events collection with the event object having time and
venue properties makes sense.  If I'm looking at things from a venue
perspective, then a venue object with a time collection, and each time
having an event object makes sense.  However, this last option may take much
longer to implement.

When I made reference to "query your data", the actual location of the data
doesn't matter - if it's in memory, then your functions/methods will be
written to use the memory, if it's in a database, the functions/methods will
be written to use the database.  That's the nice thing about OO - you don't
really care how a function works, just how to call it (it's interface), and
what it returns.  This buys you a great deal of flexibility.  For instance,
you mentioned you are working with memory based data.  If down the road you
needed to put your data into a database, you change the corresponding
functions, but not change their interface (when you can), and no other
changes should be needed.  The display routines likely would never need to
be touched.

Are you developing this in CFMX?  If so, you can't do a FULL implementation
of OO principles yet (it'd be nice if MX natively supported raising events
between objects), but you can get real close now.  If you are developing in
something else, like VB.Net, you have other options open to you for how your
objects work. (different error handling routines, raising events, handling
events, etc.)

Once you get thinking in OO terms (and this IS a shift in thinking from
procedural languages), life will get easier, and you will have other options
available to you.  Like converting your CFMX objects into web services.
(yes, I know you can do this sort of thing with procedural languages too,
but I find it's much easier to understand if you understand OO principles).

So, the bottom line is to look at your application in an OO manner, and
decide which object model makes the most sense for you.  I can't tell you
this, but hopefully I've helped you understand things enough to be able to
make the choice.

HTH.

Shawn 


-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OO modeling Hell

I'm getting it I think... one point is that an event can have many times
and venues.  Physically you might have this:

Donald Knack, "The Junkman"
12pm-1pm-   Hynes Convention Center
2pm-3pm -   Hynes Convention Center
4pm-5pm -   Hynes Convention Center
7pm-10pm-   Boston Common Bandstand
12am-12:10am-   Boston Common Frogpond

In the above example there is one "Event", 5 "TimeSlots" and 3 "Venues".

The "Event" object should link to multiple timeslot/venue pairs.

M

Re:MX 2004 download mirror

[Geoff Bowers]

Pete,

>Now that Firmware is no more (http://www.firmware.com.au) what is MM's
>position on supporting their products in Australia and when can we download
>trials from a local mirror site?

Firmware was only ever a distributor -- certainly we've never relied upon them for 
support in any capacity.  If you are a reseller there are two other distributors in 
Australia (Express Data and Scholastic) and if you're just looking for product or 
product support the partner network here would be more than happy to help.

Best regards,

-- geoff
Daemon Internet Consultants
Macromedia Premier Solutions Partner
http://www.daemon.com.au/
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Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Doug White]

Isn't it true that the die-hard CFML coders are just as fervent?  The same goes
for the C and VB coders, right.
You use the tools that are easiest for you, even if in the end, the final result
is the same or similar.

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From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX


| > I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the
| > big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML could
| > do to their development. But these people are die-hard scripters
| > and they stick to JSP. Other than J2EE, does JSP have anything over
| > CFML? I know all of the selling points for CFML, what are they
| > for JSP, leaving out J2EE?
|
| With any of these language choices, there is no "big deal". If you already
| know JSP, there's little reason to switch to CFML, in my opinion. If you
| already know Java, JSP is easy to learn. I don't think there's any reason to
| use JSP over CFML beyond those, though.
|
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| http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Dave Watts]

> Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than 
> the server.

I can't think of any reason I'd use JSP over CFMX, if I knew both and both
were available.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Dave Watts]

> The JVM was installed on the Server, not my desktop client.

When you were trying to use the CF Administrator and the file browser didn't
work, were you doing that from the server console?

In any case, just installing a JVM won't affect CFMX in the least. You'd
have to configure CFMX to use that JVM.

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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Dave Watts]

> I see many people using JSP all the time, and I wonder what the 
> big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML could 
> do to their development. But these people are die-hard scripters
> and they stick to JSP. Other than J2EE, does JSP have anything over 
> CFML? I know all of the selling points for CFML, what are they 
> for JSP, leaving out J2EE?

With any of these language choices, there is no "big deal". If you already
know JSP, there's little reason to switch to CFML, in my opinion. If you
already know Java, JSP is easy to learn. I don't think there's any reason to
use JSP over CFML beyond those, though.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Reindex field: WAS order and re-oder - THX

[mayo]

duh ...

thanks Jon,

I was going crazy ... and it's so straightforward (when you know what you're
doing)

thx again

Gil Midonnet


-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Reindex field: WAS order and re-oder


Select out the fields to be reindexed, order by the sort order field.


   
   UPDATE Table
   SET SortOrder = #qryName.currentRow#
   WHERE SortOrder = #qryName.SortOrder#
   


--
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, September 18, 2003, 3:32:28 PM, you wrote:
m> Ok, I've been looking and need some pointers --

m> how does one reindex a field whose records are (for example)

m> 1
m> 34
m> 56
m> 58
m> 112

m> and make it

m> 1
m> 2
m> 3
m> 4
m> 5

m> I'll be using either access of mysql

m> Gilbert Midonnet


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Re: Parsing XML in ColdFusion - Help!!

[ksuh]

Here's an example of getting the name out:








#name[1].XmlText#


BTW, that XML file is horribly malformed.

- Original Message -
From: "Bailey, Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:37 pm
Subject: Parsing XML in ColdFusion - Help!!

> Hello everyone... 
> 
> This is my first post to the list... 
> 
> Hopefully someone here can help me out. I'm pretty new to XML and 
> I need to
> parse an xml page so that I can extract the information out of it and
> include this information into a different page using ColdFusion MX 
> 6.1. 
> 
> I think my main problem is just understating how it all works using
> ColdFusion. I cannot fine many resources on the net that can help 
> explainhow to do this. All I need to do is extract very little 
> data out of a XML
> file. Almost like a news feed. 
> 
> Does anyone know of any useful resources that explain Parsing XML 
> usingColdFusion MX 6.1?
> 
> The file I'm trying to parse is below. The only information I need to
> extract is the Name, TagLine and Details. I then want to show this
> information on a new page. If possible can some one give me an 
> example of
> how to do this? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Neal
> 
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RE: Help! Inserting WDDX into the database

[Brook Davies]

Ryan...I am converting a CFML Structure to WDDX to store it in a DB, so 
action="cfml2wddx".

Brook

At 04:32 PM 9/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Er...shouldn't your action parameter be "wddx2cfml" since you are trying to
>deserialize the packet?
>
>If all else fails: 
>
>
>HTH,
>
>Ryan Kime
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:37 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Help! Inserting WDDX into the database
>
>
>I have a WDDX packet that, no matter what I try, generates an error when I
>try to insert it into a SQL 7.0 DB. Any ideas?
>
>My Query looks like this:
>
>
>
> insert into
>LeadDistr_members (
>  usr_id,
>  form_id,
>  LeadDistrID,
>  member_name,
>  priority,
>  wddxdata
>  )
>  values
>  (
>  value="#getmembers.usr_id#">,
>  value="#getmembers.form_id#">,
>  ,
>  value="#getmembers.member_name#">,
>  value="#getmembers.priority#">,
>  '#tempWddxData2#'
>
>
>
>I end up with an error like the one below. Also below is the outputted SQL
>Statement from the debugger:
>
>
>==
>Error Executing Database Query.
>[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Line 16: Incorrect syntax
>near 'City
>
>
>==
>
>SQL insert into LeadDistr_members ( usr_id, form_id, LeadDistrID,
>member_name, priority, wddxdata ) values ( (param 1) , (param 2) , (param
>3) , (param 4) , (param 5) , 'version=''1.0''>name=''field1''>Cityname=''field2''>name=''field3''>name=''value2''>name=''value3''>name=''value1''>asdfasdf
>'
>
>
>
>==
>
>I've spent an hour trying everything I can think of. Now I am stumped.
>
>Brook Davies
>
>
>At 04:08 PM 9/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >> >   "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
> >
> >
> >Rick:
> >
> >What are the CFOUTPUT tags doing in your CFSET tag?  Shouldn't this
> >just be:
> >
> >  > Evaluate(Form.S4x6 *
> >3.95))>
> >
> >My guess is that your SESSION.cart.amount variable is really equal to:
> >
> > 11.85
> >
> >and when that string gets spat out to the browser in the error message,
> >your browser is hiding the CFOUTPUT tags because it assumes they are
> >HTML tags that it is unfamiliar with.  Check the HTML source code.
> >
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> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
> > >
> > >
> > > This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost
> > > nowhere...
> > >
> > > Anyway...(deep breath)...
> > >
> > > Quick question:  Does taking a number from a formfield and putting
> > > it into a "session.cart.amount" variable automatically turn it into
> > > a string variable?
> > >
> > > I'm sending a number from a formfield and in testing the amount from
> > > the formfield, I can multiply it, format it using DollarFormat,
> > > etc... behaves like a number should.
> > >
> > > But once the formfield variable is placed in the Session Query as
> > > session.cart.amount, it behaves like a string...I can't use
> > > DollarFormat...it returns an error that the variable
> > > session.cart.amount has to be a number...if I use
> > > DollarFormat(Val(session.cart.amount)), the value of the variable is
> > > 0...zero... it becomes a valueless string...
> > >
> > > I've haven't worked with the "session-type" queries created with
> > > Session.Cart = QueryNew etc., before and I guess I'm missing
> > > something...this should be simple stuff...but...
> > >
> > > If anyone has any suggestions about why this is going on, I'd be
> > > grateful for the help...
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > > Excerpts from the code:
> > >
> > > The formfield:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >  0
> > >  1
> > >  2
> > >  3
> > >  4
> > >  5
> > >  6
> > >  7
> > >  8
> > >  9
> > >  10
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent to another page for processing:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >  > > "#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
> > >  > > "#Form.S4x6#")>
> > >   > > Temp = QuerySetCell(Session.Cart, "Amount",
> > > "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
> > >
> > > #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
> > >
> > >
> > > -Note: CURRENTLY, ON THE LINE ABOVE, I GET THE
> > > FOLLOWING
> > > ERROR:
> > >
> > > Parameter 1 of function DollarFormat which is now "11.85" must be a
> > > number
> > >
> > > I've tried using Val to create a number out of what must be a
> > > string, 

Re: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]

[Jochem van Dieten]

John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
> 
> PERFORMANCE IS POOR?

Yes it is :-) For one of my applications at least, MySQL's 
inability to scan indexes in both directions quite literally 
kills it (who cares that MySQL is 2 times faster on 80% of the 
queries, when it is 200 times slower on the rest).

On the other hand, we have people that get great performance from 
MySQL:
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,293,00.asp

So the conclusion is the same as always:

There is no point in trusting somebody elses benchmarks (not even 
mine :-), you need to run your own benchmarks, designed for your 
own application and with your own dataset.



> Their PHP manager

What did he have to say about PHP switching from MySQL to SQLLite?



> But don't
> discount MySQL out of hand. Or PostgreSQL, but thats a completely different
> story and I'm sure Jochem is a better source for that than me :)

The story is the same as always:
every application is different


BTW, I am convinced that if you take out the "nobody ever got 
fired for buying Oracle" factor for people solliciting 
information about databases on this list, it pretty much becomes 
"nobody ever buys Oracle".
(Not because Oracle isn't great (it is), but because when you 
really need the features you should have a DBA to make that 
decision for you instead of sollicit opinions on this list.)

Jochem



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Re: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]

[Jochem van Dieten]

John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
> 
> I think the whole "free" issue for open source is missing the point

Most people miss the point. Free is not about the price, free is 
about the freedom to do with software whatever you want to do 
with it. BSD/MIT/X11 rocks ;-)

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OT-Flash-Creating Flv's

[Critz]

oi CF-Talk,!!

  everytime  I import video into flashmxit turns out very pixelly...large 
pixels... any ideas as
  to how i can get around this? When i export it to an flv, it still looks pixelly 
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Re: Urgent: Performance Help

[Jochem van Dieten]

John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
> From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>>It's interesting they'd charge you more for MySQL than Access (since I
>>assume they'll have more tech support issues with Access ;)
> 
> Actually it's pretty straightforward why it would cost more -- you have to
> set up users, dbs, etc in MySQL (or MS-SQL) -- you can't simply copy up a
> file. In both cases you need to set up the datasource connection (ODBC/CF)
> but that's it for Access.

In both cases, it is just a matter of writing a template that 
will do this for you.


>>SQL Server might be a better choice - it should be able to recognize
>>your tables/datatypes from Access without any problems, and if you're
>>using things like transactions, the migration should be fairly
>>painless.  _Fairly_ painless, not necessarily totally painless.
> 
> Unless you foolishly picked boolean fields in Access. Access even converts
> bit fields (0/1) in SQL Server to (0/-1) when you link tables through the
> ODBC driver. But other than that (and any code that dealt with booleans)
> you're in good shape.

The Access/MS SQL Server conversion might be extra difficult with 
booleans in Access, but that is an MS SQL Server shortcomming. 
The problem is that MS SQL Server does not recognize the SQL 
literals TRUE and FALSE which Access recognizes, but other 
databases do not suffer from this shortcomming.

Jochem



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Re: RE: OO modeling Hell

[ksuh]

> 
> My initial idea was to have a "Performances" (or perhaps "Showings")
> property in "Event" that was a two dimensional array of TimeSlot/Venue
> references.
> 
> Sound good?

I think an EventCollection object would work better in this case.



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Re: RE: OO modeling Hell

[ksuh]

Here's a quick stab at the problem:

If you wanted to know what events where being held at a specific venue, you could 
write a method in the venue object that would return event objects at that venue.  If 
you wanted to know what events were being held for a particular venue at a particular 
time, you'd create another method that would take a timeslot object and then give back 
a bunch of event objects.

You'd then iterate through the events, and then get their timeslot object.

The timeslot object could be somewhat trickier.  You could make a base timeslot class, 
and derive timeslot classes for each time that you'd mentioned.  But I'm actually not 
sure how "correct" this approach would be.

For insertion, you could create:

event.add(object venue, object timeslot);

venue.add(object event, object timeslot);

But if I were you, I'd wait for Sean Corfield to pipe up :)

- Original Message -
From: Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:35 pm
Subject: RE: OO modeling Hell

> I think I misrepresented my problem.
> 
> The objects are "virtual" - they have no database access themselves
> (this is handled, as you suggest, by separate implementation classes,
> which handle all persistent data access).
> 
> The problem I'm having is that in the procedural world I'm coming 
> from I
> would have a big run which returned, for example, all the events 
> takingplace at a Venue.
> 
> In the object world, after all this stuff has been instantiated and
> cached, I'm having trouble connecting the objects together.  In this
> specific case an Event can have several TimeSlots each at its own 
> Venue,a Venue can have many events and a Timeslot can have many 
> Events.
> In use all of this information will actually be stored as cached 
> objectsin memory - there will be no DB calls.  This is possible 
> because of the
> (relatively) small size of the total dataset (about 200 events at some
> 70 venues) and should increase performance significantly.
> 
> My old version of the system simple loaded all of the data into
> persistent (application scoped) queries and the application pulled it
> from there using QofQ.
> 
> Thinking in objects I'm not sure how to translate that...
> 
> Am I confusing everybody else as much as I am myself?  ;^)
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Shawn Grover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: OO modeling Hell
> > 
> > I think you are on the right track but missed the business rules end
> of
> > OO.
> > 
> > I would do the same as you - create objects for dealing with my
> underlying
> > tables.  I call these objects "data access components", and normally
> store
> > them in a different folder called data.  Now, you have the concept
> that an
> > event, venue, and a time slot are related.  This is a business rule.
> In
> > this case, I create another object that will implement the business
> rules.
> > In your case, I might call the new object an Event object, but store
> it in
> > a
> > different folder or name it differently so that I know it is NOT a
> data
> > access component.  This object would then do any application 
> specific> validation, and processing.  The tough part with this is 
> that you have
> to
> > make a choice where your transactions take place - in the 
> database, or
> in
> > CF
> > (or whatever language you're using).  If you opt for placing the
> > transactions in the database (I'd recommend this where 
> possible), then
> the
> > call to the stored proc should happen within one of your data access
> > components - the business rule component should not be dealing
> directly
> > with
> > the database, that is not it's role.
> > 
> > Conceptually, you might end up with something like this:
> > 
> > EVENT Rules
> >   - Data Access Components
> >   - Event data access component
> >   - Venue data access component
> >   - Timeslot data access component
> >   - Specialized data access component (if needed).
> >   - Business functions
> >   - Save Event (-which might call individual functions on the
> member
> > data components)
> > 
> > Not sure if this is entirely clear, but hopefully it get's you 
> movingin
> > the
> > right direction...
> > 
> > Shawn
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:14 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OO modeling Hell
> > 
> > 
> > Sorry - thismay be semi-off topic (but then again it may be semi-on
> > topic - possibly even flat-out on topic!)
> > 
> > I'm working on modeling an existing procedural system (first 
> built in
> CF
> > 4) to CFMX and want to implement "correctly" (as possible) in an
> OO/CFC
> > framework.
> > 
> > I'm doing the static model now and have run into a conceptual 
> problem.> Hoping for some opinions.
> > 
> > The system is an event planner for a large, single-day festival.
> > Stripping it down to the problem 

RE: OO modeling Hell

[Jim Davis]

> In this case then...
> 
> A specific event object would have a property for venue, and another
for
> time slot.  These properties would be of type Venue and type Timeslot
> respectively (that is, Event.Time would be a timeslot object based on
the
> timeslot class, and Event.Venue would be a venue object based on the
venue
> class). Try not to use the same name for both your properties and your
> class
> definitions, otherwise you might get errors, and cause confusion.

I'm getting it I think... one point is that an event can have many times
and venues.  Physically you might have this:

Donald Knack, "The Junkman"
12pm-1pm-   Hynes Convention Center
2pm-3pm -   Hynes Convention Center
4pm-5pm -   Hynes Convention Center
7pm-10pm-   Boston Common Bandstand
12am-12:10am-   Boston Common Frogpond

In the above example there is one "Event", 5 "TimeSlots" and 3 "Venues".

The "Event" object should link to multiple timeslot/venue pairs.

My initial idea was to have a "Performances" (or perhaps "Showings")
property in "Event" that was a two dimensional array of TimeSlot/Venue
references.

Sound good?

> When you look at a venue object, it doesn't really have a direct
> correlation
> to a specific event, or time, so will not have properties for these
> elements.  Same with a Timeslot object - there is no real direct
> correlation
> between a venue and an event, so no properties for these here either.
> Yes,
> a timeslot can be associated with a venue and/or an event, but the
> timeslot
> iteself doesn't really care.

Sort of... but one of the major aspects of the system is getting all
events at a venue or by time.  So, depending on the work being done at
any time the "primary" object may be Venue, TimeSlot or Event.

This was the idea behind having an array of Event references within
"Venue" and "TimeSlot".

No good?

> So, I'd make a generic timeslot object (with start time, end time, and
any
> needed methods), a generic venue object (with location and any needed
> methods), and then an event object with properites for the event
details
> including timeslot and venue.
> 
> When it comes to listing items by timeslots or venues, this would be a
> specialized query of your data.  Perhaps the Timeslot object could
have a

Are you saying the object data (the event objects) or the database
directly?  In the procedural model I would definitely query a table -
but I'm trying to get away from implementation dependencies in the
running application.

> method "PrintSchedule" that will do whatever is needed to create a
> schedule,
> but scheduling is a time related function so logically should be with
the
> Timeslot object.  On the other hand, a Venue might also have a
> "PrintSchedule" method that would list only the events for that
particular
> venue.  The implementation details are, of course, best left to you.
But
> post some possibilities here in hopes it might help you determine
where
> things should go.
> 
> I should make a disclaimer though - I don't know the specific details
of
> your requirements, so my examples might be completely off...

If it would help the actual system I'm converting is here:

http://www.firstnight.org/Content/NewYears/Artists/Index.cfm

This is the eighth year I've done the site so I've got a very strong
handle on the business requirements but also some very ingrained
procedural concepts for building it.  ;^)

The current system works well, but lacks some features (for example
currently there is a one-to-one relationship between Venue and Event so
and example like the one above can't be constructed without
duplication).

Thanks for your time and patience.

Jim Davis


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RE: Help! Inserting WDDX into the database

[Ryan Kime]

Er...shouldn't your action parameter be "wddx2cfml" since you are trying to
deserialize the packet?

If all else fails: 


HTH,

Ryan Kime

-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help! Inserting WDDX into the database


I have a WDDX packet that, no matter what I try, generates an error when I 
try to insert it into a SQL 7.0 DB. Any ideas?

My Query looks like this:



 insert into
LeadDistr_members (
 usr_id,
 form_id,
 LeadDistrID,
 member_name,
 priority,
 wddxdata
 )
 values
 (
 ,
 ,
 ,
 ,
 ,
 '#tempWddxData2#'



I end up with an error like the one below. Also below is the outputted SQL 
Statement from the debugger:


==
Error Executing Database Query.
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Line 16: Incorrect syntax 
near 'City


==

SQL insert into LeadDistr_members ( usr_id, form_id, LeadDistrID, 
member_name, priority, wddxdata ) values ( (param 1) , (param 2) , (param 
3) , (param 4) , (param 5) , 'Cityasdfasdf
'



==

I've spent an hour trying everything I can think of. Now I am stumped.

Brook Davies


At 04:08 PM 9/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >>   "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
>
>
>Rick:
>
>What are the CFOUTPUT tags doing in your CFSET tag?  Shouldn't this 
>just be:
>
>  Evaluate(Form.S4x6 *
>3.95))>
>
>My guess is that your SESSION.cart.amount variable is really equal to:
>
> 11.85
>
>and when that string gets spat out to the browser in the error message, 
>your browser is hiding the CFOUTPUT tags because it assumes they are 
>HTML tags that it is unfamiliar with.  Check the HTML source code.
>
>--
>Mosh Teitelbaum
>evoch, LLC
>Tel: (301) 942-5378
>Fax: (301) 933-3651
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
> >
> >
> > This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost 
> > nowhere...
> >
> > Anyway...(deep breath)...
> >
> > Quick question:  Does taking a number from a formfield and putting 
> > it into a "session.cart.amount" variable automatically turn it into 
> > a string variable?
> >
> > I'm sending a number from a formfield and in testing the amount from 
> > the formfield, I can multiply it, format it using DollarFormat, 
> > etc... behaves like a number should.
> >
> > But once the formfield variable is placed in the Session Query as 
> > session.cart.amount, it behaves like a string...I can't use 
> > DollarFormat...it returns an error that the variable 
> > session.cart.amount has to be a number...if I use 
> > DollarFormat(Val(session.cart.amount)), the value of the variable is 
> > 0...zero... it becomes a valueless string...
> >
> > I've haven't worked with the "session-type" queries created with 
> > Session.Cart = QueryNew etc., before and I guess I'm missing 
> > something...this should be simple stuff...but...
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions about why this is going on, I'd be 
> > grateful for the help...
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > Excerpts from the code:
> >
> > The formfield:
> >
> > 
> >
> >  0
> >  1
> >  2
> >  3
> >  4
> >  5
> >  6
> >  7
> >  8
> >  9
> >  10
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent to another page for processing:
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  > "#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
> >  > "#Form.S4x6#")>
> >   > Temp = QuerySetCell(Session.Cart, "Amount", 
> > "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
> >
> > #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
> >
> >
> > -Note: CURRENTLY, ON THE LINE ABOVE, I GET THE 
> > FOLLOWING
> > ERROR:
> >
> > Parameter 1 of function DollarFormat which is now "11.85" must be a 
> > number
> >
> > I've tried using Val to create a number out of what must be a 
> > string, but that will create a variable with a value of 0 (zero)...
> >
> > --
> > --
> > ---
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >   PhotoFileName: #PhotoFileName#
> >   Quantity: #Quantity#
> >   Size:  #Size#
> >   Amount:  #DollarFormat(Amount)#
> >  
> >
> >   #DollarFormat(Amount)#
> >
> >> Evaluate(Session.Total+Session.Cart.Amount)>
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Order Total: 
> > #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
>

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RE: OO modeling Hell

[Shawn Grover]

In this case then...

A specific event object would have a property for venue, and another for
time slot.  These properties would be of type Venue and type Timeslot
respectively (that is, Event.Time would be a timeslot object based on the
timeslot class, and Event.Venue would be a venue object based on the venue
class). Try not to use the same name for both your properties and your class
definitions, otherwise you might get errors, and cause confusion.

When you look at a venue object, it doesn't really have a direct correlation
to a specific event, or time, so will not have properties for these
elements.  Same with a Timeslot object - there is no real direct correlation
between a venue and an event, so no properties for these here either.  Yes,
a timeslot can be associated with a venue and/or an event, but the timeslot
iteself doesn't really care.

So, I'd make a generic timeslot object (with start time, end time, and any
needed methods), a generic venue object (with location and any needed
methods), and then an event object with properites for the event details
including timeslot and venue.

When it comes to listing items by timeslots or venues, this would be a
specialized query of your data.  Perhaps the Timeslot object could have a
method "PrintSchedule" that will do whatever is needed to create a schedule,
but scheduling is a time related function so logically should be with the
Timeslot object.  On the other hand, a Venue might also have a
"PrintSchedule" method that would list only the events for that particular
venue.  The implementation details are, of course, best left to you.  But I
post some possibilities here in hopes it might help you determine where
things should go.

I should make a disclaimer though - I don't know the specific details of
your requirements, so my examples might be completely off...

HTH.

Shawn

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OO modeling Hell


I think I misrepresented my problem.

The objects are "virtual" - they have no database access themselves
(this is handled, as you suggest, by separate implementation classes,
which handle all persistent data access).

The problem I'm having is that in the procedural world I'm coming from I
would have a big run which returned, for example, all the events taking
place at a Venue.

In the object world, after all this stuff has been instantiated and
cached, I'm having trouble connecting the objects together.  In this
specific case an Event can have several TimeSlots each at its own Venue,
a Venue can have many events and a Timeslot can have many Events.

In use all of this information will actually be stored as cached objects
in memory - there will be no DB calls.  This is possible because of the
(relatively) small size of the total dataset (about 200 events at some
70 venues) and should increase performance significantly.

My old version of the system simple loaded all of the data into
persistent (application scoped) queries and the application pulled it
from there using QofQ.

Thinking in objects I'm not sure how to translate that...

Am I confusing everybody else as much as I am myself?  ;^)

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OO modeling Hell
> 
> I think you are on the right track but missed the business rules end
of
> OO.
> 
> I would do the same as you - create objects for dealing with my
underlying
> tables.  I call these objects "data access components", and normally
store
> them in a different folder called data.  Now, you have the concept
that an
> event, venue, and a time slot are related.  This is a business rule.
In
> this case, I create another object that will implement the business
rules.
> In your case, I might call the new object an Event object, but store
it in
> a
> different folder or name it differently so that I know it is NOT a
data
> access component.  This object would then do any application specific
> validation, and processing.  The tough part with this is that you have
to
> make a choice where your transactions take place - in the database, or
in
> CF
> (or whatever language you're using).  If you opt for placing the
> transactions in the database (I'd recommend this where possible), then
the
> call to the stored proc should happen within one of your data access
> components - the business rule component should not be dealing
directly
> with
> the database, that is not it's role.
> 
> Conceptually, you might end up with something like this:
> 
> EVENT Rules
>   - Data Access Components
>   - Event data access component
>   - Venue data access component
>   - Timeslot data access component
>   - Specialized data access component (if needed).
>   - Business functions
>   - Save Event (-which might call individual functions on the
member
> data components)
> 
> 

Re: CF 5 ReSend Mail...

[James Blaha]

Critz,

Thanks but I'm looking to improve performance from the current tag 
that's being used CF_ResendUndeliverable.

Regards,
JB


Critz wrote:

>oi James!!
>
>if you have access to the server, just re-drop them in the spool dir
>
>
>  
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RE: CF 5 ReSend Mail...

[Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)]

I don't have the script with me but what I have done in the past is
write a simple template using CFFILE that grabs all the files from the
Underliverable folder and dumps them into the Spool folder for another
attempt at sending them. 

If you just want to clean out the old messages, setup a scheduled task
that will delete the files on a weekly basis (daily, monthly, whatever).
I do this for mail and old server error logs. 

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-Original Message-
From: James Blaha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 ReSend Mail...


Hello All:

I'm in a pinch and have a quick question. What's the best free method 
for dealing with CF5 and undeliverable mail. Does anyone have a favorite

tag or code you could send to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm trucking through 1001 Windows errors today and this is one issue I 
could really use help with.

Regards,
James Blaha



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Re: CF 5 ReSend Mail...

[Critz]

oi James!!

if you have access to the server, just re-drop them in the spool dir


-- 



Thursday, September 18, 2003, 4:44:56 PM, you wrote:

JB> Hello All:

JB> I’m in a pinch and have a quick question. What’s the best free method 
JB> for dealing with CF5 and undeliverable mail. Does anyone have a favorite 
JB> tag or code you could send to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

JB> I’m trucking through 1001 Windows errors today and this is one issue I 
JB> could really use help with.

JB> Regards,
JB> James Blaha


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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan F. Hogan]

Thanks for your reply. I see many people using JSP all the time, and I
wonder what the big deal is. I say to myself if they just knew what CFML
could do to their development. But these people are die-hard scripters and
they stick to JSP. Other than J2EE, does JSP have anything over CFML? I know
all of the selling points for CFML, what are they for JSP, leaving out J2EE?

-Original Message-
From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX


Oh, ok.  In that case, I'd go with CFMX in a heartbeat.  I haven't
benched the speed differences between JSP and CFMX 6.1 for simliar
pieces of work (I have more important things to do, like playing Knights
of the Old Republic), but MX is far, far easier to work with and has a
much cleaner development process.  Even if you're familiar with Java, it
makes writing HTML/XML/whatever much easier to follow and read if you're
using CFML.

You can clean up a lot of JSP's syntax by using taglibs to encapsulate
bits of functionality, but you can also import those taglibs into MX and
use them in exactly the same way.

A previous job I had used JSP across almost all of our website, which
was nice and fast, but since our programming and designing wings of the
web team were separate, the designers had daily questions about how to
push their layouts into JSP, since they had no programming background.
Some of this was ameliorated by taglibs, but looking back, it's the
perfect solution for CFMX.

I hope that helps answer your question, Bryan.

- Jim

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XML Documentation

[Jim Campbell]

We're currently in very early stages (read: no work yet) of rebuilding 
our entire stable of interrelated websites to take advantage of MX 6.1 
and J2EE (we're currently using CF5 only).

The myriad exciting bits of a blank-slate project like this aside, 
there's one aspect of it (and maybe more in the future) I wanted to 
bounce off of CF-Talk.

We're looking at having structured XML documentation for our 
templates/CFC's, sort of like what you'd find in Fusebox/Mach-II.  I 
figure we can import a namespace for our documentation structure and 
reference it that way - and customize DWMX to make writing those tags easy.

Well, I figure that's only half of the way there.  We're also evaluating 
using an EJB layer to help structure and speed up our data access and 
move the bulk of our "business logic" to a single layer.  Now, due to 
the lovely Javadoc, we'd be able to have a terrific, browsable API once 
we're all done of methods and interfaces for that section.

My question (and I did have one!) is, has anyone written or come across 
a Javadoc-like "aggregator" for structured XML documentation - something 
that would produce a browsable API manual?  The basic method behind 
something seems fairly straightforward - have a spider move through the 
various templates and create an HTML file based off the found 
documentation tags.  Naturally, the planning is more complicated - you'd 
have to determine how to flag interrelated tags, denote parent/child 
relationships and the like, but I think the payoff for that would be 
fantastic, especially in regards to bringing someone new into the team - 
they'd have immediate access to easily readable, cogent documentaion 
that didn't consist of trying to follow a thousand  tags.  It 
sounds like something that would be a lot of fun to write.

Thoughts?  Warnings?  Screams of Pain?

- Jim

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Re:MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]

[Mauricio Giraldo]

Optimize MySQL:

http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mysql/article.php/1382791

Hope that helps

- mga
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RE: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path (SOLVED)

[Ian Skinner]

I found the XML file that I was looking for.  Now, it would be nice to know
what I was really doing here.  By adding a second  to the
enclosed file, the expandpath() function is now correctly returning
"D:\inetpub\websites\bloodsource" instead of "C:\cfusionMX\".  But what is
it that I have really done?



C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\WEB-INF\jrun-web.xml



http://www.macromedia.com/dtd/jrun-web.dtd";>
 




 
 

 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  
/WEB-INF
C:/CFusionMX/wwwroot/WEB-INF
  


  
/*
D:/inetpub/websites/bloodsource
  


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Help! Inserting WDDX into the database

[Brook Davies]

I have a WDDX packet that, no matter what I try, generates an error when I 
try to insert it into a SQL 7.0 DB. Any ideas?

My Query looks like this:




insert into LeadDistr_members (
 usr_id,
 form_id,
 LeadDistrID,
 member_name,
 priority,
 wddxdata
 )
 values
 (
 ,
 ,
 ,
 ,
 ,
 '#tempWddxData2#'



I end up with an error like the one below. Also below is the outputted SQL 
Statement from the debugger:

==
Error Executing Database Query.
[Macromedia][SQLServer JDBC Driver][SQLServer]Line 16: Incorrect syntax 
near 'City

==

SQL insert into LeadDistr_members ( usr_id, form_id, LeadDistrID, 
member_name, priority, wddxdata ) values ( (param 1) , (param 2) , (param 
3) , (param 4) , (param 5) , 'Cityasdfasdf'


==

I've spent an hour trying everything I can think of. Now I am stumped.

Brook Davies


At 04:08 PM 9/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >>   "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
>
>
>Rick:
>
>What are the CFOUTPUT tags doing in your CFSET tag?  Shouldn't this just be:
>
>  Evaluate(Form.S4x6 *
>3.95))>
>
>My guess is that your SESSION.cart.amount variable is really equal to:
>
> 11.85
>
>and when that string gets spat out to the browser in the error message, your
>browser is hiding the CFOUTPUT tags because it assumes they are HTML tags
>that it is unfamiliar with.  Check the HTML source code.
>
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>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
> >
> >
> > This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost nowhere...
> >
> > Anyway...(deep breath)...
> >
> > Quick question:  Does taking a number from a formfield and putting it into
> > a "session.cart.amount" variable automatically turn it into a string
> > variable?
> >
> > I'm sending a number from a formfield and in testing the amount from the
> > formfield,
> > I can multiply it, format it using DollarFormat, etc... behaves like a
> > number should.
> >
> > But once the formfield variable is placed in the Session Query as
> > session.cart.amount,
> > it behaves like a string...I can't use DollarFormat...it returns an error
> > that the variable session.cart.amount
> > has to be a number...if I use DollarFormat(Val(session.cart.amount)), the
> > value of the variable is 0...zero...
> > it becomes a valueless string...
> >
> > I've haven't worked with the "session-type" queries created with
> > Session.Cart = QueryNew etc., before
> > and I guess I'm missing something...this should be simple stuff...but...
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions about why this is going on, I'd be grateful
> > for the help...
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > Excerpts from the code:
> >
> > The formfield:
> >
> > 
> >
> >  0
> >  1
> >  2
> >  3
> >  4
> >  5
> >  6
> >  7
> >  8
> >  9
> >  10
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent to another page for processing:
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  > "#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
> >  > "#Form.S4x6#")>
> > 
> >  > "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
> >
> > #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
> >
> >
> > -Note: CURRENTLY, ON THE LINE ABOVE, I GET THE FOLLOWING
> > ERROR:
> >
> > Parameter 1 of function DollarFormat which is now "11.85" must be a number
> >
> > I've tried using Val to create a number out of what must be a string, but
> > that will create a variable with a value of 0 (zero)...
> >
> > --
> > --
> > ---
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >   PhotoFileName: #PhotoFileName#
> >   Quantity: #Quantity#
> >   Size:  #Size#
> >   Amount:  #DollarFormat(Amount)#
> >  
> >
> >   #DollarFormat(Amount)#
> >
> >   
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Order Total: #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
>
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CF 5 ReSend Mail...

[James Blaha]

Hello All:

I’m in a pinch and have a quick question. What’s the best free method 
for dealing with CF5 and undeliverable mail. Does anyone have a favorite 
tag or code you could send to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Regards,
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RE: OO modeling Hell

[Jim Davis]

I think I misrepresented my problem.

The objects are "virtual" - they have no database access themselves
(this is handled, as you suggest, by separate implementation classes,
which handle all persistent data access).

The problem I'm having is that in the procedural world I'm coming from I
would have a big run which returned, for example, all the events taking
place at a Venue.

In the object world, after all this stuff has been instantiated and
cached, I'm having trouble connecting the objects together.  In this
specific case an Event can have several TimeSlots each at its own Venue,
a Venue can have many events and a Timeslot can have many Events.

In use all of this information will actually be stored as cached objects
in memory - there will be no DB calls.  This is possible because of the
(relatively) small size of the total dataset (about 200 events at some
70 venues) and should increase performance significantly.

My old version of the system simple loaded all of the data into
persistent (application scoped) queries and the application pulled it
from there using QofQ.

Thinking in objects I'm not sure how to translate that...

Am I confusing everybody else as much as I am myself?  ;^)

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OO modeling Hell
> 
> I think you are on the right track but missed the business rules end
of
> OO.
> 
> I would do the same as you - create objects for dealing with my
underlying
> tables.  I call these objects "data access components", and normally
store
> them in a different folder called data.  Now, you have the concept
that an
> event, venue, and a time slot are related.  This is a business rule.
In
> this case, I create another object that will implement the business
rules.
> In your case, I might call the new object an Event object, but store
it in
> a
> different folder or name it differently so that I know it is NOT a
data
> access component.  This object would then do any application specific
> validation, and processing.  The tough part with this is that you have
to
> make a choice where your transactions take place - in the database, or
in
> CF
> (or whatever language you're using).  If you opt for placing the
> transactions in the database (I'd recommend this where possible), then
the
> call to the stored proc should happen within one of your data access
> components - the business rule component should not be dealing
directly
> with
> the database, that is not it's role.
> 
> Conceptually, you might end up with something like this:
> 
> EVENT Rules
>   - Data Access Components
>   - Event data access component
>   - Venue data access component
>   - Timeslot data access component
>   - Specialized data access component (if needed).
>   - Business functions
>   - Save Event (-which might call individual functions on the
member
> data components)
> 
> Not sure if this is entirely clear, but hopefully it get's you moving
in
> the
> right direction...
> 
> Shawn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OO modeling Hell
> 
> 
> Sorry - thismay be semi-off topic (but then again it may be semi-on
> topic - possibly even flat-out on topic!)
> 
> I'm working on modeling an existing procedural system (first built in
CF
> 4) to CFMX and want to implement "correctly" (as possible) in an
OO/CFC
> framework.
> 
> I'm doing the static model now and have run into a conceptual problem.
> Hoping for some opinions.
> 
> The system is an event planner for a large, single-day festival.
> Stripping it down to the problem domain we have a database model with
> three tables:
> 
> 1) "Events": All the events taking place.
> 
> 2) "Venue": All the locations that events can take place at.
> 
> 3) "TimeSlots": All of the tied begin/end times for events.  For
example
> "10:00-14:00", "10:00-11:00", "13:00-15:00", etc
> 
> In the DB this works well.  "Events" and "TimeSlots" are joined with
> "EventsToTimeSlots" (many to many).  You can then query easily based
on
> start-time, end-time, or duration.  "EventsToTimeSlots" also links to
> "Venues".  This allows an event to occur at any time and each time to
be
> located at a distinct venue.
> 
> So we may have a dance troupe appearing at 8pm-10pm at the Boston
Ballet
> bulding, then from 11pm-midnight at Boston Common.
> 
> When converting this to an object model I naturally began by
considering
> "Event", "Venue" and "TimeSlot" as objects.  (Right?)  My issue is how
> to deal with the three-part join.
> 
> I have, for example, an array in each TimeSlot object containing a
> references to all the events taking place.  I can then loop through
all
> the timeslots and collect all the events taking place at any time or
of
> a certain duration.  Sorting this kind of return may be a problem, but
> not (I think) 

Parsing XML in ColdFusion - Help!!

[Bailey, Neal]

Hello everyone... 
 
This is my first post to the list... 
 
Hopefully someone here can help me out. I'm pretty new to XML and I need to
parse an xml page so that I can extract the information out of it and
include this information into a different page using ColdFusion MX 6.1. 
 
I think my main problem is just understating how it all works using
ColdFusion. I cannot fine many resources on the net that can help explain
how to do this. All I need to do is extract very little data out of a XML
file. Almost like a news feed. 
 
Does anyone know of any useful resources that explain Parsing XML using
ColdFusion MX 6.1?
 
The file I'm trying to parse is below. The only information I need to
extract is the Name, TagLine and Details. I then want to show this
information on a new page. If possible can some one give me an example of
how to do this? 
 
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RE: verify image exists

[Jim Davis]

> your own web site, or somebody else's?

That's main question.

Locally you can use the FileExists() function to determine the existence
of any file.  Remotely (as long as the resource is HTTP-accessible) you
can use CFHTTP to retrieve the resource - examining the HTTP return code
will tell you if it's there or not.

Jim Davis


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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan F. Hogan]

"Why would you use JRun if you weren't going to write any Enterprise Java?"

Good question, it's what I'm trying to ask!! Why use JRun over CFMX?

-Original Message-
From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jrun4 and CFMX


Why would you use JRun if you weren't going to write any Enterprise 
Java?  If you factor out writing things like servlets or struts or 
EJB's, you're pretty much left with a pointless technology base.

Having CFMX available on top of your JRun (or any J2EE server) is the 
best of both worlds.  I can have a framework of EJB's and JSP taglibs 
and all their supporting acoutrements on the Java server, all only a 
 or  tag away, basically, and all of ColdFusion's 
capabilities as well.

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RE: cfmail with mx records

[Turetsky, Seth]

thanks for the info and the tag worked great

-seth

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfmail with mx records


ColdFusion does not look up MX records for sending mail although you can
specify the server in the tag (however, most servers will not accept the mail
directly for several reasons including no "Received" header and usually the
HELO does not match RDNS, etc.)  ColdFusion version 6.0 and lower only allowed
you to specify a single email server but 6.1 allows for multiple servers.

As for an MX tag - we have a free one here:
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Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Marc A. Garrett]

Jim,

You can still run JSP pages without a separate installation of JRun.
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"Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
> need it, then you probably don't."
>
> In this case JRUN will let you code to the J2EE development standards
> (EJB, JSP, etc) while CFMX will let you code CFML and take advantage of
> Java classes.  You can do the same jobs with both - but if you want to
> mix then you'll need JRUN (or some other J2EE server).
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Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Jim Campbell]

Why would you use JRun if you weren't going to write any Enterprise 
Java?  If you factor out writing things like servlets or struts or 
EJB's, you're pretty much left with a pointless technology base.

Having CFMX available on top of your JRun (or any J2EE server) is the 
best of both worlds.  I can have a framework of EJB's and JSP taglibs 
and all their supporting acoutrements on the Java server, all only a 
 or  tag away, basically, and all of ColdFusion's 
capabilities as well.

Bryan F. Hogan wrote:

>Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to JRun
>over CFMX?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
>
>
>  
>
>>I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about
>>it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they
>>both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun
>>that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do
>>it?
>>
>>What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?
>>
>>
>
>If you want to integrate your CFMX application with J2EE functionality,
>you'll need a J2EE server like JRun. For example, if you have Enterprise
>Java Beans, you need a J2EE server to host them.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
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>fax: 202-797-5444
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Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan Stevenson]

Jim Davis said:
> It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
> need it, then you probably don't."

Umm...I have to disagree on that onespeed..everybody needs speed.  With
CF MX Standard you cannot deploy on a J2EE serever and cannot get the major
speed increase.  So whether or not you know why you would want
Javayou'll still want the speed IMHO

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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX


> It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
> need it, then you probably don't."
>
> In this case JRUN will let you code to the J2EE development standards
> (EJB, JSP, etc) while CFMX will let you code CFML and take advantage of
> Java classes.  You can do the same jobs with both - but if you want to
> mix then you'll need JRUN (or some other J2EE server).
>
> Jim Davis
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:24 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> >
> > Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to
> JRun
> > over CFMX?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> >
> >
> > > I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about
> > > it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they
> > > both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun
> > > that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do
> > > it?
> > >
> > > What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?
> >
> > If you want to integrate your CFMX application with J2EE
> functionality,
> > you'll need a J2EE server like JRun. For example, if you have
> Enterprise
> > Java Beans, you need a J2EE server to host them.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > phone: 202-797-5496
> > fax: 202-797-5444
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?

[Mosh Teitelbaum]

>  "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>


Rick:

What are the CFOUTPUT tags doing in your CFSET tag?  Shouldn't this just be:



My guess is that your SESSION.cart.amount variable is really equal to:

11.85

and when that string gets spat out to the browser in the error message, your
browser is hiding the CFOUTPUT tags because it assumes they are HTML tags
that it is unfamiliar with.  Check the HTML source code.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?
>
>
> This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost nowhere...
>
> Anyway...(deep breath)...
>
> Quick question:  Does taking a number from a formfield and putting it into
> a "session.cart.amount" variable automatically turn it into a string
> variable?
>
> I'm sending a number from a formfield and in testing the amount from the
> formfield,
> I can multiply it, format it using DollarFormat, etc... behaves like a
> number should.
>
> But once the formfield variable is placed in the Session Query as
> session.cart.amount,
> it behaves like a string...I can't use DollarFormat...it returns an error
> that the variable session.cart.amount
> has to be a number...if I use DollarFormat(Val(session.cart.amount)), the
> value of the variable is 0...zero...
> it becomes a valueless string...
>
> I've haven't worked with the "session-type" queries created with
> Session.Cart = QueryNew etc., before
> and I guess I'm missing something...this should be simple stuff...but...
>
> If anyone has any suggestions about why this is going on, I'd be grateful
> for the help...
>
> Rick
>
>
> Excerpts from the code:
>
> The formfield:
>
> 
>
>  0
>  1
>  2
>  3
>  4
>  5
>  6
>  7
>  8
>  9
>  10
>
> 
>
>
>
> Sent to another page for processing:
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>  "#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
>  "#Form.S4x6#")>
> 
>  "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>
>
> #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
>
>
> -Note: CURRENTLY, ON THE LINE ABOVE, I GET THE FOLLOWING
> ERROR:
>
> Parameter 1 of function DollarFormat which is now "11.85" must be a number
>
> I've tried using Val to create a number out of what must be a string, but
> that will create a variable with a value of 0 (zero)...
>
> --
> --
> ---
>
> 
>
> 
>
>  
>   PhotoFileName: #PhotoFileName#
>   Quantity: #Quantity#
>   Size:  #Size#
>   Amount:  #DollarFormat(Amount)#
>  
>
>   #DollarFormat(Amount)#
>
>   
>
> 
> 
>
> Order Total: #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
>
> 
>
>
> 
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Re: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Jim Campbell]

Oh, ok.  In that case, I'd go with CFMX in a heartbeat.  I haven't 
benched the speed differences between JSP and CFMX 6.1 for simliar 
pieces of work (I have more important things to do, like playing Knights 
of the Old Republic), but MX is far, far easier to work with and has a 
much cleaner development process.  Even if you're familiar with Java, it 
makes writing HTML/XML/whatever much easier to follow and read if you're 
using CFML.

You can clean up a lot of JSP's syntax by using taglibs to encapsulate 
bits of functionality, but you can also import those taglibs into MX and 
use them in exactly the same way.

A previous job I had used JSP across almost all of our website, which 
was nice and fast, but since our programming and designing wings of the 
web team were separate, the designers had daily questions about how to 
push their layouts into JSP, since they had no programming background.  
Some of this was ameliorated by taglibs, but looking back, it's the 
perfect solution for CFMX.

I hope that helps answer your question, Bryan.

- Jim

Bryan F. Hogan wrote:

>Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than the server.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
>
>
>  
>
>>Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages
>>to JRun over CFMX?
>>
>>
>
>If you install CFMX Enterprise or CFMX Standard by themselves, they come
>with a subset of JRun - enough of JRun to run CFMX, basically. If you
>install CFMX for J2EE on top of an existing J2EE server, like JRun, you can
>use all of the functionality offered by that server.
>
>For example, JRun allows you to run any number of server instances, and you
>can install CFMX on each of them, allowing you to run separate instances of
>CFMX on the same machine. If one fails, it wouldn't affect the others.
>
>Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>http://www.figleaf.com/
>phone: 202-797-5496
>fax: 202-797-5444
>
>
>
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RE: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?

[Ryan Emerle]

You are adding the string "#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#" as the 
value.  Which will be something like:

"11.85"

You probably just cant seen the CFOUTPUT tags in the browser because they are seen as 
tags.

Change the code to this:






And, i'd recommend reading up on your CF syntax.

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?


This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost nowhere...

Anyway...(deep breath)...


Excerpts from the code:

The formfield:



 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 7
 8
 9
 10





Sent to another page for processing:










#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
#Form.S4x6#")>

#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>

#DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#
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RE: verify image exists

[NATHAN C. SMITH]

your own web site, or somebody else's?

If you mean your own site you might be able to have I.E. download the site
"make available offline" and then just check your server log for errors,
easier- with a log statistics tool like webtrends or whatever.

-Nate

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ot: verify image exists


  Does anyone know of a tool that can spider a web site and let me
  know if an image exists or not?

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RE: OO modeling Hell

[Shawn Grover]

I think you are on the right track but missed the business rules end of OO.

I would do the same as you - create objects for dealing with my underlying
tables.  I call these objects "data access components", and normally store
them in a different folder called data.  Now, you have the concept that an
event, venue, and a time slot are related.  This is a business rule.  In
this case, I create another object that will implement the business rules.
In your case, I might call the new object an Event object, but store it in a
different folder or name it differently so that I know it is NOT a data
access component.  This object would then do any application specific
validation, and processing.  The tough part with this is that you have to
make a choice where your transactions take place - in the database, or in CF
(or whatever language you're using).  If you opt for placing the
transactions in the database (I'd recommend this where possible), then the
call to the stored proc should happen within one of your data access
components - the business rule component should not be dealing directly with
the database, that is not it's role.

Conceptually, you might end up with something like this:

EVENT Rules
  - Data Access Components
  - Event data access component
  - Venue data access component
  - Timeslot data access component
  - Specialized data access component (if needed).
  - Business functions
  - Save Event (-which might call individual functions on the member
data components)

Not sure if this is entirely clear, but hopefully it get's you moving in the
right direction...

Shawn

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OO modeling Hell


Sorry - thismay be semi-off topic (but then again it may be semi-on
topic - possibly even flat-out on topic!)

I'm working on modeling an existing procedural system (first built in CF
4) to CFMX and want to implement "correctly" (as possible) in an OO/CFC
framework.

I'm doing the static model now and have run into a conceptual problem.
Hoping for some opinions.

The system is an event planner for a large, single-day festival.
Stripping it down to the problem domain we have a database model with
three tables:

1) "Events": All the events taking place.

2) "Venue": All the locations that events can take place at.

3) "TimeSlots": All of the tied begin/end times for events.  For example
"10:00-14:00", "10:00-11:00", "13:00-15:00", etc

In the DB this works well.  "Events" and "TimeSlots" are joined with
"EventsToTimeSlots" (many to many).  You can then query easily based on
start-time, end-time, or duration.  "EventsToTimeSlots" also links to
"Venues".  This allows an event to occur at any time and each time to be
located at a distinct venue.

So we may have a dance troupe appearing at 8pm-10pm at the Boston Ballet
bulding, then from 11pm-midnight at Boston Common.

When converting this to an object model I naturally began by considering
"Event", "Venue" and "TimeSlot" as objects.  (Right?)  My issue is how
to deal with the three-part join.

I have, for example, an array in each TimeSlot object containing a
references to all the events taking place.  I can then loop through all
the timeslots and collect all the events taking place at any time or of
a certain duration.  Sorting this kind of return may be a problem, but
not (I think) big one.

I can also have an array of references in each Venue object to events
taking place there.  Lastly (I'm guessing) can have a two-dimensional
array of TimeSlot and Venue references in each Event linking each
timeslot to a venue.

Is this the best way to do this?

Should I instead some "sub object" that directly represents my join
table that contains a reference to an Event, TimeSlot and Venue?  Maybe
called "Schedule" or something?

Or should each TimeSlot object contain a single reference to an Event
and Venue and just have a lot of duplicate StartTime/EndTimes?  (I don't
think I would as it would be more difficult to present the details of a
single event.)

Does this whole "Timeslot" idea just not fit in OO as well as it does in
the relational system?

In the end the model I want should allow each event object to quickly
get the venue and time for each performance (perhaps that goes without
saying) but I also want to be able to easily list "All events at Venue",
"All events at TimeSlot" and "All events at StartTime/EndTime".

Thanks in adavance,

Jim Davis





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RE: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Ian Skinner]

>As others have mentioned, when you install CFMX, it includes a JVM for its
>own use. This JVM won't be used by the browser, though; it sounds to me
like
>your browser lacked its own JVM and you had to install one for it.

The JVM was installed on the Server, not my desktop client.  Also all this
code is running fine to development boxes and a staging box.  It's just the
new production box that caused the problems.

>This doesn't have anything to do with mappings, though, and I suspect
>there's something else going on.

>> The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect 
>> The error occurred in 
>> D:\Inetpub\websites\bloodsource\includes\Templates\Tier1.cfm:
>> line 17
>>
>> 17 : 

>Is there a reason why the file you're including has a .js extension? In the
>past, I've included files with various extensions without difficulty, but I
>haven't tried to use CFINCLUDE to include a file with a .js extension with
>CFMX 6.1. I don't think this has anything to do with your problem either,
>but it's a shot in the dark.

Basically self documentation.  The template contains JavaScript, but there
is CFML mixed to creating some dynamic JavaScript functions.  Couldn't just

RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan F. Hogan]

Right, I think I'm thinking more about JSP the language than the server.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX


> Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages
> to JRun over CFMX?

If you install CFMX Enterprise or CFMX Standard by themselves, they come
with a subset of JRun - enough of JRun to run CFMX, basically. If you
install CFMX for J2EE on top of an existing J2EE server, like JRun, you can
use all of the functionality offered by that server.

For example, JRun allows you to run any number of server instances, and you
can install CFMX on each of them, allowing you to run separate instances of
CFMX on the same machine. If one fails, it wouldn't affect the others.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan F. Hogan]

"if you don't know whether or not you need it, then you probably don't."

Never said that I did need it, just wondering so I know.

"You can do the same jobs with both"

Save from EJB, etc, what does JSP the language have over CFMX if it does
have something over CFMX? If they both can do the same job, why would one
choose JRun over CFMX? Speaking of those that do choose JRun over CFMX.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX


It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
need it, then you probably don't."

In this case JRUN will let you code to the J2EE development standards
(EJB, JSP, etc) while CFMX will let you code CFML and take advantage of
Java classes.  You can do the same jobs with both - but if you want to
mix then you'll need JRUN (or some other J2EE server).

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
>
> Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to
JRun
> over CFMX?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
>
>
> > I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about
> > it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they
> > both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun
> > that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do
> > it?
> >
> > What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?
>
> If you want to integrate your CFMX application with J2EE
functionality,
> you'll need a J2EE server like JRun. For example, if you have
Enterprise
> Java Beans, you need a J2EE server to host them.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> phone: 202-797-5496
> fax: 202-797-5444
>
>
>

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Re: Reindex field: WAS order and re-oder

[jon hall]

Select out the fields to be reindexed, order by the sort order field.


   
   UPDATE Table
   SET SortOrder = #qryName.currentRow#
   WHERE SortOrder = #qryName.SortOrder#
   


-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, September 18, 2003, 3:32:28 PM, you wrote:
m> Ok, I've been looking and need some pointers --

m> how does one reindex a field whose records are (for example)

m> 1
m> 34
m> 56
m> 58
m> 112

m> and make it

m> 1
m> 2
m> 3
m> 4
m> 5

m> I'll be using either access of mysql

m> Gilbert Midonnet


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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Dave Watts]

> Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages 
> to JRun over CFMX? 

If you install CFMX Enterprise or CFMX Standard by themselves, they come
with a subset of JRun - enough of JRun to run CFMX, basically. If you
install CFMX for J2EE on top of an existing J2EE server, like JRun, you can
use all of the functionality offered by that server.

For example, JRun allows you to run any number of server instances, and you
can install CFMX on each of them, allowing you to run separate instances of
CFMX on the same machine. If one fails, it wouldn't affect the others.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Dave Watts]

> After trying this, that and the other thing with no success, 
> we noticed that the "browse" directory widget in the administrator 
> did not work because the box was apparently lacking a Java Virtual 
> Machine (JVM). So we installed this, and the mappings started working!

As others have mentioned, when you install CFMX, it includes a JVM for its
own use. This JVM won't be used by the browser, though; it sounds to me like
your browser lacked its own JVM and you had to install one for it.

This doesn't have anything to do with mappings, though, and I suspect
there's something else going on.

> The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect 
> The error occurred in 
> D:\Inetpub\websites\bloodsource\includes\Templates\Tier1.cfm:
> line 17
>
> 17 : 

Is there a reason why the file you're including has a .js extension? In the
past, I've included files with various extensions without difficulty, but I
haven't tried to use CFINCLUDE to include a file with a .js extension with
CFMX 6.1. I don't think this has anything to do with your problem either,
but it's a shot in the dark.

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RE: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Ian Skinner]

>But CFMX *requires* a JVM in order to run at all and when you install 
>CFMX, it installs a JVM for you (CFMX 6.1 installs Sun's JRE 1.4.2 for 
>example). It sounds like some bizarre configuration problem on your 
>server - server mappings should not require any additional setup, they 
>should just work.

That's what I thought, we are using the bundled JRun server with our CFMX
6.1 professional(? the non-J2EE enterprise version).  I would have thought
that would had provided what we needed, as it sound like you would have
thought as well.  But installing a separate?/new? JVM seems to have fixed
it?  Any ideas on why this might be?

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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Jim Davis]

It may be flippant - but I've said "if you don't know whether or not you
need it, then you probably don't."

In this case JRUN will let you code to the J2EE development standards
(EJB, JSP, etc) while CFMX will let you code CFML and take advantage of
Java classes.  You can do the same jobs with both - but if you want to
mix then you'll need JRUN (or some other J2EE server).

Jim Davis

> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> 
> Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to
JRun
> over CFMX?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX
> 
> 
> > I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about
> > it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they
> > both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun
> > that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do
> > it?
> >
> > What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?
> 
> If you want to integrate your CFMX application with J2EE
functionality,
> you'll need a J2EE server like JRun. For example, if you have
Enterprise
> Java Beans, you need a J2EE server to host them.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> phone: 202-797-5496
> fax: 202-797-5444
> 
> 
> 
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Can anyone explain why this code is behaving like it is?

[Rick Faircloth]

This stuff is driving me crazy!  All day spent to get almost nowhere...

Anyway...(deep breath)...

Quick question:  Does taking a number from a formfield and putting it into
a "session.cart.amount" variable automatically turn it into a string
variable?

I'm sending a number from a formfield and in testing the amount from the
formfield,
I can multiply it, format it using DollarFormat, etc... behaves like a
number should.

But once the formfield variable is placed in the Session Query as
session.cart.amount,
it behaves like a string...I can't use DollarFormat...it returns an error
that the variable session.cart.amount
has to be a number...if I use DollarFormat(Val(session.cart.amount)), the
value of the variable is 0...zero...
it becomes a valueless string...

I've haven't worked with the "session-type" queries created with
Session.Cart = QueryNew etc., before
and I guess I'm missing something...this should be simple stuff...but...

If anyone has any suggestions about why this is going on, I'd be grateful
for the help...

Rick


Excerpts from the code:

The formfield:



 0
 1
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 7
 8
 9
 10





Sent to another page for processing:










#Form.PhotoFileName#")>
#Form.S4x6#")>

#Evaluate(Form.S4x6 * 3.95)#")>

#DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#


-Note: CURRENTLY, ON THE LINE ABOVE, I GET THE FOLLOWING
ERROR:

Parameter 1 of function DollarFormat which is now "11.85" must be a number

I've tried using Val to create a number out of what must be a string, but
that will create a variable with a value of 0 (zero)...


---





 
  PhotoFileName: #PhotoFileName#
  Quantity: #Quantity#
  Size:  #Size#
  Amount:  #DollarFormat(Amount)#
 

  #DollarFormat(Amount)#

  




Order Total: #DollarFormat(Session.Cart.Amount)#




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Reindex field: WAS order and re-oder

[mayo]

Ok, I've been looking and need some pointers --

how does one reindex a field whose records are (for example)

1
34
56
58
112

and make it

1
2
3
4
5

I'll be using either access of mysql

Gilbert Midonnet


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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan F. Hogan]

Ok, say you don't use J2EE functionality. Are there any advantages to JRun
over CFMX?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Jrun4 and CFMX


> I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about
> it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they
> both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun
> that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do
> it?
>
> What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?

If you want to integrate your CFMX application with J2EE functionality,
you'll need a J2EE server like JRun. For example, if you have Enterprise
Java Beans, you need a J2EE server to host them.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.

[Ian Skinner]

??? You lost me?

Is not #expandpath("/")# supposed to return the absolute directory of the
webroot that the template is in?  For example, if the webroot of a website
is defined in IIS to be e:/intranet and a file located at
e:/intranet/includes/common/header.cfm runs the function  #expandpath("/")#,
the value returned should be "E:/intranet".  Then you should be able to use
this value in tags and functions that require an absolute path such as
.

I have used constructs such as this many times since CF4.5 days.  But, on
one MX box it caused me a problem because the function wasn't returning the
absolute path of the webroot for the website the template was in,
("e:/intranet") in my example, rather it returned the absolute path of the
CF stand-alone web server webroot ("c:/cfusionMX") by default I believe.  A
directory that the template was not in, or any templates for that matter.  

I also remember, finding a technote the discussed this, and modifying an XML
file to correct the behavior.  Basically something about the default order
of searches when multiple web roots exits, or something along those lines.

I thought disabling the stand-alone server would solve this problem, but it
has not.

I just can't remember either the technote nor the XML file, and I not
finding in searches of the TechNotes.  I was hoping somebody could fill-in
the gaps in my memory.

--
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.


On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 11:40 US/Pacific, Ian Skinner wrote:
> I have an expandpath("/") and it is returning the path of the 
> ColdFusion
> standalone web server web-root (c:/cfusionmx/wwwroot) rather then the
> correct web root of the IIS website (d:/websites/bloodsource).

But expandPath() only knows about the ColdFusion root - it can't 
possibly know about the web server root.

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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RE: Jrun4 and CFMX

[Dave Watts]

> I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about 
> it. In was cases would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they 
> both do the same thing? Even if there is something in JRun 
> that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be extended to do 
> it?
>
> What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?

If you want to integrate your CFMX application with J2EE functionality,
you'll need a J2EE server like JRun. For example, if you have Enterprise
Java Beans, you need a J2EE server to host them.

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OO modeling Hell

[Jim Davis]

Sorry - thismay be semi-off topic (but then again it may be semi-on
topic - possibly even flat-out on topic!)

I'm working on modeling an existing procedural system (first built in CF
4) to CFMX and want to implement "correctly" (as possible) in an OO/CFC
framework.

I'm doing the static model now and have run into a conceptual problem.
Hoping for some opinions.

The system is an event planner for a large, single-day festival.
Stripping it down to the problem domain we have a database model with
three tables:

1) "Events": All the events taking place.

2) "Venue": All the locations that events can take place at.

3) "TimeSlots": All of the tied begin/end times for events.  For example
"10:00-14:00", "10:00-11:00", "13:00-15:00", etc

In the DB this works well.  "Events" and "TimeSlots" are joined with
"EventsToTimeSlots" (many to many).  You can then query easily based on
start-time, end-time, or duration.  "EventsToTimeSlots" also links to
"Venues".  This allows an event to occur at any time and each time to be
located at a distinct venue.

So we may have a dance troupe appearing at 8pm-10pm at the Boston Ballet
bulding, then from 11pm-midnight at Boston Common.

When converting this to an object model I naturally began by considering
"Event", "Venue" and "TimeSlot" as objects.  (Right?)  My issue is how
to deal with the three-part join.

I have, for example, an array in each TimeSlot object containing a
references to all the events taking place.  I can then loop through all
the timeslots and collect all the events taking place at any time or of
a certain duration.  Sorting this kind of return may be a problem, but
not (I think) big one.

I can also have an array of references in each Venue object to events
taking place there.  Lastly (I'm guessing) can have a two-dimensional
array of TimeSlot and Venue references in each Event linking each
timeslot to a venue.

Is this the best way to do this?

Should I instead some "sub object" that directly represents my join
table that contains a reference to an Event, TimeSlot and Venue?  Maybe
called "Schedule" or something?

Or should each TimeSlot object contain a single reference to an Event
and Venue and just have a lot of duplicate StartTime/EndTimes?  (I don't
think I would as it would be more difficult to present the details of a
single event.)

Does this whole "Timeslot" idea just not fit in OO as well as it does in
the relational system?

In the end the model I want should allow each event object to quickly
get the venue and time for each performance (perhaps that goes without
saying) but I also want to be able to easily list "All events at Venue",
"All events at TimeSlot" and "All events at StartTime/EndTime".

Thanks in adavance,

Jim Davis




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Re: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

[Stephen Hait]

> I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2
> Y axis, one on the right and one on the left.

PopChart from Corda has worked very well for us for several 
years. Highly recommended.

HTH, Stephen
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Jrun4 and CFMX

[Bryan F. Hogan]

I've asked this question before but I'm still unclear about it. In was cases
would you choose Jrun4 over CFMX. Can't they both do the same thing? Even if
there is something in JRun that CFMX doesn't natively do, can't CFMX be
extended to do it?

What is the advantages of using JRun over CFMX?

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RE: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.

[Ian Skinner]

We have a mapping set as you suggested, it does not solve the problem as the
problem is unrelated to mappings.

I am trying to find the absolute path of the webroot (/) of a template by
using #expandpath("/")# as shown in the documentation for expandpath.  Not
using a server mapping as one might use in a  tag.

--
Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.


Have you tried setting a mapping in the CF Admin that maps '/' to
'd:/websites/bloodsource'?  I bet that'll solve the problem.

barneyb

> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.
>
>
> Let's try this in the correct forum.
>
> I have an expandpath("/") and it is returning the path of the ColdFusion
> standalone web server web-root (c:/cfusionmx/wwwroot) rather then the
> correct web root of the IIS website (d:/websites/bloodsource).  I remember
> solving this recently on a different box, but I can't remember which XML
> file I tweaked, or the Macromedia Technote that told me what to do.
>
> Anybody know what I am talking about and can you fill in the holes in my
> memory.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Ian Skinner
> Web Programmer
> BloodSource
> www.BloodSource.org
> Sacramento, CA
>
> 

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Re: cfmail with mx records

[Howie Hamlin]

ColdFusion does not look up MX records for sending mail although you can specify the 
server in the tag (however, most servers will not accept the mail directly for several 
reasons including no "Received" header and usually the HELO does not match RDNS, etc.) 
 ColdFusion version 6.0 and lower only allowed you to specify a single email server 
but 6.1 allows for multiple servers.

As for an MX tag - we have a free one here: 
http://www.coolfusion.com/products/freeware/cfxodsmxlookup.cfm

HTH,

--
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On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com
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From: "Turetsky, Seth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: cfmail with mx records


> Maybe this has been answered before, but searching on 'mx' can be tough
> 
> We can't seem to get to get coldfusion to use an mx record, either by
> specifing it in the cfmail tag or in cfadmin.  Does anyone do this or do you
> all hardcode to one specific smtp server?
> 
> If this isn't possible, does anyone have any code that can query a dns server
> for mx records?
> 
> TIA,
> seth
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RE: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

[Rick Walters]

To ammend my own post, The ActivePDF, ReportLab, BigFaceLess.. etc, are all PDF/Print 
conversion utilities.  They really don't address creating a graph.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 02:57PM >>>
Thanks Bruce,

Corda looks like a pretty cool package.  Looking through the archives I saw references 
to ActivePDF, ReportLab, BigFaceLess, and CFXGraphicsServer.  Keep the suggestions 
coming, if for no other reason that people who research this topic later will have a 
good list to start their decision making process.  Thanks all.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 02:27PM >>>
We have been using Corda's PopCharts here at Baylor Health Care System for
quite some time, and it has proven to work out great over the enterprise. It
has a very robust engine and a fairly intuitive chart builder application.
It works with .NET, CF, Java, ASP very well. You can check it out at
www.corda.com.

HTH

Bruce

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis,
one on the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions,
but I don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you
know a good package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
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RE: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.

[Barney Boisvert]

Have you tried setting a mapping in the CF Admin that maps '/' to
'd:/websites/bloodsource'?  I bet that'll solve the problem.

barneyb

> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.
>
>
> Let's try this in the correct forum.
>
> I have an expandpath("/") and it is returning the path of the ColdFusion
> standalone web server web-root (c:/cfusionmx/wwwroot) rather then the
> correct web root of the IIS website (d:/websites/bloodsource).  I remember
> solving this recently on a different box, but I can't remember which XML
> file I tweaked, or the Macromedia Technote that told me what to do.
>
> Anybody know what I am talking about and can you fill in the holes in my
> memory.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Ian Skinner
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Re: Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.

[Sean A Corfield]

On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 11:40 US/Pacific, Ian Skinner wrote:
> I have an expandpath("/") and it is returning the path of the 
> ColdFusion
> standalone web server web-root (c:/cfusionmx/wwwroot) rather then the
> correct web root of the IIS website (d:/websites/bloodsource).

But expandPath() only knows about the ColdFusion root - it can't 
possibly know about the web server root.

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ot: verify image exists

[jon hall]

  Does anyone know of a tool that can spider a web site and let me
  know if an image exists or not?

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Re: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Sean A Corfield]

On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 11:42 US/Pacific, Dave Carabetta wrote:
> Directory browse applets on work in the MX Admin if you have RDS 
> enabled.

Yes, RDS is required for the browser applets in CFMX Admin (but, 
regardless, the browse applets do not function on Mac OS X even with 
RDS enabled).

> Perhaps mappings are also associated the the enabling/disabling of RDS?

No, mappings work fine on all of our servers - and we have RDS disabled 
on every machine.

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RE: Opera's handling of radio buttons

[Mosh Teitelbaum]

Kevin:

I wasn't arguing that code modifications are unnecessary due to
(non)comformance to specs.  Of course, I agree with you and Deanna that,
given how Opera seems to handle this situation, extra code is required.

I was arguing as to whether or not Opera is in compliance with the specs.
As you said, if you can assume that a blank value is no value at all, then
Opera is, in fact, in compliance.  I would argue that, with respect to radio
buttons, a radio control (i.e., the set of all radio buttons with the same
name) has no value only when none of the radio buttons within that control
have been selected.  However, a selected radio button that has an empty
value still has a value.

This is just my understanding of the specs.  I guess the real question boils
down to whether or not SGML CDATA is allowed to be blank.  And since I'm not
willing to pony up the cash needed to buy the appropriate specs from ISO,
I'm going to leave it with a "this is my opinion, do with it what you will."

--
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Fax: (301) 933-3651
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Opera's handling of radio buttons
>
>
> First off, we need to realize that it doesn't really matter if Opera is
> following specs or not because we have to accomodate what's out
> there. Given
> that, I think it boils down to how you want to define a null value. To my
> knowledge, HTML doesn't have a standard for handling null values
> in forms as
> either a declared "null" or if "" represents an empty bit of text
> or a null
> or a non-value. As we know, different databases treat it differently as
> well.
>
> Opera is apparently treating "" as no value at all.. And since there is no
> value, that radio set is not a successful control because a successful
> control needs both a name/value pair. Controls that are not successful are
> still legal html, they just don't have to be passed on submit. So as I see
> it, Opera is indeed following the specs if you accept that "" is no value.
> That's debateable but as I said at the start, it doesn't really
> matter. The
> only thing that matters is that we know that it could happen and that we
> need to account for it. Which is why Deanna thought she'd share.
>
> -Kevin
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mosh Teitelbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Opera's handling of radio buttons
>
>
> > Oh, I believe you.  I just don't think that Opera is following
> the specs.
> >
> > You might submit a bug report to them about this.
> >
> > As to your code, adding a CFPARAM at the top of you code should resolve
> any
> > problems this issue is causing:
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> >
> > --
> > Mosh Teitelbaum
> > evoch, LLC
> > Tel: (301) 942-5378
> > Fax: (301) 933-3651
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:25 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Opera's handling of radio buttons
> > >
> > >
> > > But it doesn't, at least not in Opera. It does in every other browser
> I've
> > > used. But, Opera just doesn't pass it. Since I've tended to use radio
> > > buttons like that when I have a "doesn't matter" choice and then
> > > just done a
> > > LEN(mybutton) eval on the action page, I'm sure there's other
> > > pages of mine
> > > out there that will break in Opera.
> > >
> > > *sigh*
> > > -d
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Mosh Teitelbaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:19 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Opera's handling of radio buttons
> > >
> > >
> > > > Deanna:
> > > >
> > > > The code you submitted does not necessarily imply a NULL value
> > > for a radio
> > > > element.  A NULL radio element is one in which none of the radio
> buttons
> > > > have been selected (which is, technically, illegal in HTML).
> > > The code you
> > > > sent shows a radio button with a value of "" (empty string).
> > > If the user
> > > > selected that button and submitted the form, the browser should
> > > send back
> > > > that form element as:
> > > >
> > > > ele1=val1&mybutton=&ele3=val3
> > > >   ^
> > > >
> > > > that is, the form element "mybutton" with a blank value.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mosh Teitelbaum
> > > > evoch, LLC
> > > > Tel: (301) 942-5378
> > > > Fax: (301) 933-3651
> > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:55 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: OT: Opera's handling of radi

RE: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

[Rick Walters]

Thanks Bruce,

Corda looks like a pretty cool package.  Looking through the archives I saw references 
to ActivePDF, ReportLab, BigFaceLess, and CFXGraphicsServer.  Keep the suggestions 
coming, if for no other reason that people who research this topic later will have a 
good list to start their decision making process.  Thanks all.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/18/03 02:27PM >>>
We have been using Corda's PopCharts here at Baylor Health Care System for
quite some time, and it has proven to work out great over the enterprise. It
has a very robust engine and a fairly intuitive chart builder application.
It works with .NET, CF, Java, ASP very well. You can check it out at
www.corda.com.

HTH

Bruce

-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis,
one on the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions,
but I don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you
know a good package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(800) 604-5227 x 

DaVita Inc.


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RE: Recursion and Scope problem?

[Andre Turrettini]

basically, you call the function once and the vars are declared in the
global scope, when that function calls itself, it redeclares them again in
that same global scope, so they are overwritten.  So, when the top function
continues, its variables are no longer the ones it set.  Using the var
statement simply keeps each declaration seperate.  Make sense?

DRE

-Original Message-
From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:Recursion and Scope problem?


Bingo, worked like a champ. But I'm still wondering WHY the scopes be
overwritten? I just don't get it

Cedric

>Try using the "var" keyword in your first four  statements.
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Cedric Villat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:59 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Recursion and Scope problem?
>
>
>Ok, I'm doing a bit of recursion, and my variables seem to be overwriting
>themselves, which makes no sense to me. Here is my code:
>
>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
>  
>  
> ArrayLen(children[root_node]) LTE 0>
>  
>  
> 
>  
>   
>  
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>In this example, the root_node is "Homer Simpson". He has 3 children Bart,
>Lisa, and Maggie. When the function is first run, Arguments.node is "Homer
>Simpson". It goes through the code until it gets to the recursive call
>getDTreeWidth() which then calls itself for each child. After calling
>getDTreeWidth() for Bart, it seems to work. When the function returns a
>number and is added to the width, the next time through Homer Simpson's
>loop, the root_node is now "Bart Simpson"! How could the recursive call to
>Bart Simpson overwrite Homer Simpson's original arguments? Is this a bug or
>am I missing something here?
>
>Any help would be appreciated. It may not make sense, so let me know if you
>need some more clarification.
>
>Cedric
>
>
>

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cfmail with mx records

[Turetsky, Seth]

Maybe this has been answered before, but searching on 'mx' can be tough

We can't seem to get to get coldfusion to use an mx record, either by
specifing it in the cfmail tag or in cfadmin.  Does anyone do this or do you
all hardcode to one specific smtp server?

If this isn't possible, does anyone have any code that can query a dns server
for mx records?

TIA,
seth

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Re: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Dave Carabetta]

>As for the directory browse applets in the CF Admin, that's a separate
>issue - for example, they don't work on Mac OS X (I don't remember why
>but it is mentioned in the Release Notes and/or the Known Issues list)
>but mappings still work just fine on OS X.
>

Directory browse applets on work in the MX Admin if you have RDS enabled. 
Perhaps mappings are also associated the the enabling/disabling of RDS?

Regards,
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RE: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

[Hagan, Ryan Mr (Contractor ACI)]

I've used Corda PopCharts which is, in essence, a COM object.  It works
really well.  I've also used a PHP solution called JP Graph which I can't
recommend highly enough.

http://www.corda.com/products/popchart/
http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/


-Original Message-
From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph


Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis,
one on the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions,
but I don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you
know a good package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
Richard Walters,
Internet Application Designer,
Davita Laboratory Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(800) 604-5227 x 

DaVita Inc.

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Expandpath() is returning the wrong path.

[Ian Skinner]

Let's try this in the correct forum.

I have an expandpath("/") and it is returning the path of the ColdFusion
standalone web server web-root (c:/cfusionmx/wwwroot) rather then the
correct web root of the IIS website (d:/websites/bloodsource).  I remember
solving this recently on a different box, but I can't remember which XML
file I tweaked, or the Macromedia Technote that told me what to do.  

Anybody know what I am talking about and can you fill in the holes in my
memory.

Thanks.

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re: Using

[Bushy]

HI,

I'm reading in a file using . When I make modifications and save the file back to the 
server 
(Windows 2000) and open it in UltraEdit (text editor) it asks me if I want to conver 
the file to DOS format.

How can I get my file to save in DOS format. These messes up other applications that 
run on the server that require this file I'm modifying.

This is my save syntax:






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Builder.com great CF article

[Mike Brunt]

There is a very good article on Builder.com re CFMX and in particular 6.1.  This part 
is very true IMHO "but with the full reconstruction of the engine, CFMX was 
essentially a version 1.0 product. When you consider this, it is truly amazing that 
everything worked as well as it did."

It is really worth the read here -

http://builder.com.com/5100-6389_14-5073381.html

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Re: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]

[John Paul Ashenfelter]

There are plenty of "full-blown apps" that use MySQL. Some apps simply don't
need transactional support. Some don't need views. Some don't need triggers.
Some don't need stored procs. Some need all of them, some none.

I think the whole "free" issue for open source is missing the point -- in no
way is it "free". There's learning costs, possibly transition costs (eg
Access to MySQL) but that's true of any technology you roll out for the
first time. MS-SQL has costs, not just the upfront $$$ for the license.
There's training, admin, etc. With MySQL (and other oss software), you get
open source code -- no more, no less.

I happily steer clients towards MSDE for small projects if their application
is likely to need the capabilities of SQL-Server, since that's a pretty
smooth upgrade path. It's "free" too.

As far as PostgreSQL and MySQL, they're certainly different animals. I do a
lot of mixed development (Win/Linux) and don't like compiling Postgres
distros (or running under VMWare, etc) so I lean towards MySQL since it's
easy to roll out in heterogeneous environments. Plus I do a lot more data
warehousing and reporting systems, where MySQL's strengths shine.

My data center has 3 boxes running MySQL and 1 running MS-SQL. The last
corporatin I worked for had 24 MS-SQL and no anything else. The current gig
has 2 MS-SQL and 3 MySQL boxes. Go figure :)

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]


> Here's my 2 cents
>
> Alot of folks say use MySQL because it's free.  The problem I have with
that
> is that you have to write extra code to make up for what it's missing
(i.e.
> views, triggers, stored procs).  So that drives up development cost and
code
> maintenance costs...so free isn't so free.
>
> Granted if it's used in ceratian situation as John Paul mentioned...then
> sure...go for itbut for full-blown apps...I'm not sold...PostgreSQL
> looks much better to me in that arena (although you'll still have to pry
SQL
> Server from my cold dead hands) ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> t. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -
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> www.macromedia.com
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> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:29 AM
> Subject: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]
>
>
> > Ah here we go with the MySQL stuff again. Couple of
references
> > to refute the myths
> >
> > PERFORMANCE IS POOR?
> >
> > Let's start with the big eWeek article
> > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,293,00.asp, particularly the
> > preformance comparison (summary: neck and neck with Oracle under heavy
> load;
> > both better than the other 3) between Oracle, MySQL, MS-SQL, Sybase, and
> > DB2. Particularly the graphs of performance, etc at this URL:
> > http://www.eweek.com/slideshow/0,3018,sid=0&s=1590&a=23120,00.asp And
> while
> > there are some issues with the methodology (eg MySQL AB sent engineers
to
> > help tune the db, a request that most of the other companies ignored),
the
> > comparison is pretty fair and they are pretty objective testers.
> >
> > NO ONE USES IT?
> > Plenty of people run MySQL in a production environment. Here are a few
> > *recent* examples from the MySQL AB homepage:
> >
> > MySQL's High Availability Works for Red One Aviation
> > Cox Communications Powers Massive Data Warehouse with MySQL
> > The AP Relies on MySQL for Transaction-Heavy News Delivery System
> > Sterling Commerce Taps MySQL To Power Gentran Integration Suite For
Global
> > 5000 Companies
> > MySQL and SGI Partner to Deliver High Performance Database Computing
with
> > MySQL on the SGI Altix 3000 Supercluster
> > Dell Researchers Deem MySQL Replication Cluster Easy, Effective for High
> > Volume Applications
> > Danish Center for Biological Sequence Analysis Uses MySQL as Data
> Management
> > Engine in Massive Supercomputer-Based Research Project
> >
> > Plus Yahoo is using it internally for many, many applications and
rolling
> it
> > out behind some of their new public applications (PHP and MySQL to be
> > precise). Their PHP manager and I discussed it during my class on MySQL
> > DataWarehousing at OSCON this year. Plenty of other corporations/groups
> were
> > there rolling out MySQL apps. Columbia University. O'Reilly Publishing
> (big
> > surprise), etc, etc.
> >
> > That said, I'm a hardcore MS-SQL server guy as well. I've been DBA for 

RE: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

[Bruce Sorge]

We have been using Corda's PopCharts here at Baylor Health Care System for
quite some time, and it has proven to work out great over the enterprise. It
has a very robust engine and a fairly intuitive chart builder application.
It works with .NET, CF, Java, ASP very well. You can check it out at
www.corda.com.

HTH

Bruce

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis,
one on the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions,
but I don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you
know a good package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

Good Fortune,
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Internet Application Designer,
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Graphing Solutions Beyond CFGraph

[Rick Walters]

Hi list,

I am searching for a graphing engine that will allow me to display 2 Y axis, one on 
the right and one on the left.

Ordinarily I am not interested in people trying to peddle non-CF solutions, but I 
don't think CFGraph is going to help me with this problem.  So, if you know a good 
package, please post a reply.  Thanks.

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Re: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]

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| Here's my 2 cents
|
| Alot of folks say use MySQL because it's free.  The problem I have with that
| is that you have to write extra code to make up for what it's missing (i.e.
| views, triggers, stored procs).  So that drives up development cost and code
| maintenance costs...so free isn't so free.
|
| Granted if it's used in ceratian situation as John Paul mentioned...then
| sure...go for itbut for full-blown apps...I'm not sold...PostgreSQL
| looks much better to me in that arena (although you'll still have to pry SQL
| Server from my cold dead hands) ;-)
|
| Cheers
|
| Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
| VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
| Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
| t. 250.920.8830
| e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| -
| Macromedia Associate Partner
| www.macromedia.com
| -
| Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
| Founder & Director
| www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
| - Original Message -
| From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:29 AM
| Subject: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]
|
|
| > Ah here we go with the MySQL stuff again. Couple of references
| > to refute the myths
| >
| > PERFORMANCE IS POOR?
| >
| > Let's start with the big eWeek article
| > http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,293,00.asp, particularly the
| > preformance comparison (summary: neck and neck with Oracle under heavy
| load;
| > both better than the other 3) between Oracle, MySQL, MS-SQL, Sybase, and
| > DB2. Particularly the graphs of performance, etc at this URL:
| > http://www.eweek.com/slideshow/0,3018,sid=0&s=1590&a=23120,00.asp And
| while
| > there are some issues with the methodology (eg MySQL AB sent engineers to
| > help tune the db, a request that most of the other companies ignored), the
| > comparison is pretty fair and they are pretty objective testers.
| >
| > NO ONE USES IT?
| > Plenty of people run MySQL in a production environment. Here are a few
| > *recent* examples from the MySQL AB homepage:
| >
| > MySQL's High Availability Works for Red One Aviation
| > Cox Communications Powers Massive Data Warehouse with MySQL
| > The AP Relies on MySQL for Transaction-Heavy News Delivery System
| > Sterling Commerce Taps MySQL To Power Gentran Integration Suite For Global
| > 5000 Companies
| > MySQL and SGI Partner to Deliver High Performance Database Computing with
| > MySQL on the SGI Altix 3000 Supercluster
| > Dell Researchers Deem MySQL Replication Cluster Easy, Effective for High
| > Volume Applications
| > Danish Center for Biological Sequence Analysis Uses MySQL as Data
| Management
| > Engine in Massive Supercomputer-Based Research Project
| >
| > Plus Yahoo is using it internally for many, many applications and rolling
| it
| > out behind some of their new public applications (PHP and MySQL to be
| > precise). Their PHP manager and I discussed it during my class on MySQL
| > DataWarehousing at OSCON this year. Plenty of other corporations/groups
| were
| > there rolling out MySQL apps. Columbia University. O'Reilly Publishing
| (big
| > surprise), etc, etc.
| >
| > That said, I'm a hardcore MS-SQL server guy as well. I've been DBA for a
| > company with 22+ servers in 4 countries. I've pushed it for a number of
| > client projects. The argument in favor of MS-SQL Server has often been
| "It's
| > like Oracle for most applications, but far cheaper" which is a fair
| > statement. Same thing can be said of MySQL in many instances (not all, and
| > there are certainly places to not use it) but the AP Newswire delivers
| (full
| > text) content to 11,000 *concurrent* users with MySQL. SAP is putting the
| > MySQL guys in charge of all future work/maintenance on their SAPDb
| product,
| > which is no MaxDB for MySQL in marketing lingo. And plenty of open source
| > applications come ready to use MySQL, which gets them in the enterprise as
| > more and more "off-the-shelf" oss applications are used in corporations.
| >
| > MySQL came out of a data warehousing project -- and is very well suited to
| > it (since transactions aren't a big deal i

RE: order and re-oder

[mayo]

Thanks to all who responded.

Jeff Howden's and Jon Hall's interfaces are excellent. I may use them. I'll
work on the fine tuning the interface later. What I'm primarily interested
in is the SQL reorganizing.

I supposed that a "scheduled reindexing" is what I'm looking for. I'm
looking that up now (I've never done that). The db I'll be using for this
will either be access or MySQL.

Gilbert Midonnet


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Re: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Sean A Corfield]

On Thursday, Sep 18, 2003, at 10:53 US/Pacific, Calvin Ward wrote:
> The tail end of your email is one I'd like to see discussed.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> My question is WHY?  Apparently server mappings need a JVM?  Is this
>> documented somewhere?  What exactly is the relationship between CFMX, 
>> JVM
>> and Jrun (or other J2EE server)?  Just one of those things I would 
>> like to
>> understand!

But CFMX *requires* a JVM in order to run at all and when you install 
CFMX, it installs a JVM for you (CFMX 6.1 installs Sun's JRE 1.4.2 for 
example). It sounds like some bizarre configuration problem on your 
server - server mappings should not require any additional setup, they 
should just work.

As for the directory browse applets in the CF Admin, that's a separate 
issue - for example, they don't work on Mac OS X (I don't remember why 
but it is mentioned in the Release Notes and/or the Known Issues list) 
but mappings still work just fine on OS X.

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cfx and cfmx 6.1 for j2ee

[Calvin Ward]

Should it be a requirement to add cfx.jar to the class path in jrun.config when using 
cfx classes in cfmx 6.1 for j2ee?

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Re: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)

[Calvin Ward]

The tail end of your email is one I'd like to see discussed.

- Calvin



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From: "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:30 PM
Subject: CFMX 6.1 Server Mappings Failing (SOLVED)


> Ok, this is a bit of a bizarre solution, at least to me.  I thought I
would
> throw this out. Both, for any others who may stumble into this, and to get
> insight into why this caused the mapping failings and what other
> ramifications there may be.
>
> BACKGROUND:
> We are in the process of moving our recently deployed, rebuilt website to
a
> Brand New Box being hosted at an ISP.  When we moved the code, all of our
> server mappings failed with error messages such as below.
>
> The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect The
error
> occurred in D:\Inetpub\websites\bloodsource\includes\Templates\Tier1.cfm:
> line 17
>
> 17 : 
>
> After trying this, that and the other thing with no success, we noticed
that
> the "browse" directory widget in the administrator did not work because
the
> box was apparently lacking a Java Virtual Machine (JVM).  So we installed
> this, and the mappings started working!
>
> My question is WHY?  Apparently server mappings need a JVM?  Is this
> documented somewhere?  What exactly is the relationship between CFMX, JVM
> and Jrun (or other J2EE server)?  Just one of those things I would like to
> understand!
>
> --
> Ian Skinner
> Web Programmer
> BloodSource
> www.BloodSource.org
> Sacramento, CA
>
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Re: MDAC 2.8?

[Calvin Ward]

Also 6.1, and no issues related to MDAC...

- Calvin
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> I am on 6.1 - no issues (so far)
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>
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> | Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:49 AM
> | Subject: MDAC 2.8?
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> |
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Re: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]

[Bryan Stevenson]

Here's my 2 cents

Alot of folks say use MySQL because it's free.  The problem I have with that
is that you have to write extra code to make up for what it's missing (i.e.
views, triggers, stored procs).  So that drives up development cost and code
maintenance costs...so free isn't so free.

Granted if it's used in ceratian situation as John Paul mentioned...then
sure...go for itbut for full-blown apps...I'm not sold...PostgreSQL
looks much better to me in that arena (although you'll still have to pry SQL
Server from my cold dead hands) ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:29 AM
Subject: MySQL and performance [Was: Re: Urgent: Performance Help]


> Ah here we go with the MySQL stuff again. Couple of references
> to refute the myths
>
> PERFORMANCE IS POOR?
>
> Let's start with the big eWeek article
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,293,00.asp, particularly the
> preformance comparison (summary: neck and neck with Oracle under heavy
load;
> both better than the other 3) between Oracle, MySQL, MS-SQL, Sybase, and
> DB2. Particularly the graphs of performance, etc at this URL:
> http://www.eweek.com/slideshow/0,3018,sid=0&s=1590&a=23120,00.asp And
while
> there are some issues with the methodology (eg MySQL AB sent engineers to
> help tune the db, a request that most of the other companies ignored), the
> comparison is pretty fair and they are pretty objective testers.
>
> NO ONE USES IT?
> Plenty of people run MySQL in a production environment. Here are a few
> *recent* examples from the MySQL AB homepage:
>
> MySQL's High Availability Works for Red One Aviation
> Cox Communications Powers Massive Data Warehouse with MySQL
> The AP Relies on MySQL for Transaction-Heavy News Delivery System
> Sterling Commerce Taps MySQL To Power Gentran Integration Suite For Global
> 5000 Companies
> MySQL and SGI Partner to Deliver High Performance Database Computing with
> MySQL on the SGI Altix 3000 Supercluster
> Dell Researchers Deem MySQL Replication Cluster Easy, Effective for High
> Volume Applications
> Danish Center for Biological Sequence Analysis Uses MySQL as Data
Management
> Engine in Massive Supercomputer-Based Research Project
>
> Plus Yahoo is using it internally for many, many applications and rolling
it
> out behind some of their new public applications (PHP and MySQL to be
> precise). Their PHP manager and I discussed it during my class on MySQL
> DataWarehousing at OSCON this year. Plenty of other corporations/groups
were
> there rolling out MySQL apps. Columbia University. O'Reilly Publishing
(big
> surprise), etc, etc.
>
> That said, I'm a hardcore MS-SQL server guy as well. I've been DBA for a
> company with 22+ servers in 4 countries. I've pushed it for a number of
> client projects. The argument in favor of MS-SQL Server has often been
"It's
> like Oracle for most applications, but far cheaper" which is a fair
> statement. Same thing can be said of MySQL in many instances (not all, and
> there are certainly places to not use it) but the AP Newswire delivers
(full
> text) content to 11,000 *concurrent* users with MySQL. SAP is putting the
> MySQL guys in charge of all future work/maintenance on their SAPDb
product,
> which is no MaxDB for MySQL in marketing lingo. And plenty of open source
> applications come ready to use MySQL, which gets them in the enterprise as
> more and more "off-the-shelf" oss applications are used in corporations.
>
> MySQL came out of a data warehousing project -- and is very well suited to
> it (since transactions aren't a big deal in that world. The additional of
> InnoDB and BDB tables with transactional support (yes, they are ACID, just
> like MS-SQL and Oracle) provided the operational side of the house.
>
> To follow up on the original point in the post, it's not always
>
> "> If you are serious about performance be serious about using a dbms that
> can
> > cut it. Oracle, MSSQL and then maybe MySQL."
>
> if you believe eWeek, it's more like "Oracle/MySQL, then MS-SQL or DB2 or
> Sybase". And on a purely techical note, the JDBC driver for MySQL that
Mark
> Matthews (now a MySQL employee) wrote *amazingly* fast. The MS-SQL JDBC
> driver (which MS licensed from DataDirect I've been led to understand)
> blows. Who cares which db is faster when you can't get the data back to
the
> client efficiently (of course, you could always get JTurbo from NewAtlanta
> and fix that problem). Plus you can basically put the whole MySQL database
> in memory b

RE: ot: isabel

[Che Vilnonis]

i'm in jersey...20 mph winds...it's hard to believe that
the brunt of this storm will be to the west of me.

Ché

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On Thursday 18 Sep 2003 18:19 pm, Tony Weeg wrote:
> anybody getting any good stuff yet?

What ?

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