Re: CF Builder 3
I have had horrible luck with the CFBuilder Find. Just as one short example, last quarter I was asked to find some emails in a big project that the support person no longer was available for. My workstation at home has CFBuilder on it and it could not find one CFMail tag(or just the text cfmail) in there. I am not on that machine right now so can't say the exact wording for the Finds I tried but I know it was both the Adobe and Eclipse ones. As I recall I used Homesite+ since found a copy in my desk and installed it. I am on my laptop right now which has DW CS5 installed and I just checked, it finds cfmail 41 times in that same codebase. Inconsistent and incorrect finding across projects with CF Builder has been the one thorn in my side that prevents me from relying on using it daily as a primary IDE. For whatever reasons it seems I quite often need to find things across projects. Actually rather disappointing because I bought CFB for that workstation since my copies of DW would not install in 64-bit Windows 8 and figured it would force me to learn/use CFB. I still randomly use it when at home and need to make a quick edit but just do not use it as my primary or actually ever during the day. -- Aaron On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Rob Voyle robvo...@voyle.com wrote: Hi Steve I use cfbuilder 3 on my local development of applications (Win 7 machine). Having migrated from using Homesite (which I still use for its ease of extended find/replace across entire web projects) âThe find/replace is very simple in Builder, in fact I would go as far as to say its better than Homesite/Studio (which was way better than Homesite)â ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:359942 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
I have to use Dreamweaver at two of my clients, I do not know the versions offhand but both are before CC. The syncing is pretty elementary but honestly in all the years I have had to use the product it has not failed to show me that files local v. remote are different. If I want to see the difference and compare them then I click the button which then loads up my default tool(Beyond Compare) and then with that tool I can see the line differences. There are rare times that the sync thinks a difference exists but none at all does, but I am not going to get upset with Dreamweaver over that because quite frankly sometimes Beyond Compare even does that and we are talking rare times. DW is not all that bad of a tool but I guess it boils down to what and how it is used. I personally use it for no more than a code editor and to push/get files off development servers, actually kind of rare I used it for sync'n except when taking on support of someone's old project. I never have used any of the page browsing features or really any of the design tools and lord knows what else is in there. I use CFB2 at my office and not yet found time to put 3 on that machine. There are a number of minor things I just do not like and hopefully the recent change takes care of. Especially in regards to writing HTML, no matter how much I try to tweak settings I find I often am typing more elements out in CFB v. DW and that statement does actually apply to both CF and HTML. -- Admiral Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: But I would even go as far as to say that DW file sync, is not feature rich and is very basic file sync at best. I doubt it could do line sync'ing in any way shape or form. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Honest question about cfform
One of the many applications I inherited and support uses CFFORM exclusively throughout it. I know a number of other applications at that same business are just like that but those are handled by offshore folks and I am 99.9% certain they have not deviated from using it since they more or less just keep the things running now that original developer is long gone. Here in recent weeks the one I support started showing an issue with bind being used between some CFSELECTS and to make AJAX calls, it was exposed when someone updated their Firefox browser. That place really is almost exclusively an IE shop so no telling how long the issue had been there. I got it fixed the morning I was made aware of it and it worked from in Chrome, Firefox and IE for me and from all of my machines. Within a couple of days just one single IE user started having an issue. At that point I decided why should I bother with trying to get this working when I know I can rewrite it using JQuery and be done with the issues. Now I left CFFORM in those few spots and still is being used for required fields, I simply stripped out the binding and redid that with JQuery. But one could run into similar issues using some old JS library for what ever in their application and as browsers update they may find the applications broken in spots. I do not really see a problem with using CFFORM just like anything else out there it will have its places it is a non issue to use and then places it just is the wrong tool for the job. With that said I do not use it on anything I make but not because of any distaste for it but because I just have my own ways to tackle things and those ways work the most efficiently for me. Kind of like CFUPDATE that I saw mentioned to never use. Truthfully I forgot that one even existed until a year or so ago when a friend of mine made a small Intranet RMA application for his work. That guy knows nothing about CF or really any programming. He came to me with some question and when I looked through the code I saw that getting used and I remember one of his problems was how to update a column where no form field with that name was being passed in, simple enough just do a cfset form.colName = whatever /. That friend of mine used a lot of the built in things to CF that so many say not to use in online communities. At the end of it all he got something working almost 100% with zero knowledge of programming and via bouncing ideas off me we got it to 100% and is still in use to this day. -- Admiral Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you all for taking the time to answer. It has been most enlightening.I must say that assumptions made were more interesting than the answers themselves. G! -- Gerald Guido Twitter https://twitter.com/CozmoTrouble Blarg http://www.myinternetisbroken.com Facebook https://www.facebook.com/gerald.guido.9 On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote: And btw - don't forget - there is a whole project dedicated to helping you replace these items. (So instead of just saying Dont Do X, we can do Do This) - https://github.com/cfjedimaster/ColdFusion-UI-the-Right-Way On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Jochem van Dieten joch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 4, 2014 5:40 AM, Gerald Guido wrote: Why are people so vehemently opposed so to CFForm? Because it will only get you so far. And once you want to go further, you'll find that you can't. So then you have to go back, rip out cfform and replace it with something else. At which point you will discover that whatever skills you learned using cfform are useless because they don't transfer to other form frameworks. All of this is just fine if you know it beforehand and plan for it. But at the same time you are developing your cfform project, the rest of the world is moving forward. And I am guessing too many of us got burned when a project initially was fine with cfform, but then the requirements changed and it wasn't anymore Additionally I suspect plain old snobbery: it is not a technologically good solution, therefore it can never be a good solution from an ROI perspective. Jochem ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:357910 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF running out of steam
For some time now I have thought a rebranding would be rather beneficial. A lot of places I work at the very name Coldfusion seems to be the biggest issue. It definitely is not the cost of the software being an issue and they all buy the Enterprise version because of Oracle. It is much more to do with them having a perception that Coldfusion is an old language. As if it never really has seen much changes over the years. But mention ASP.NETto those same people and they never seem to relate it one bit to Classic ASP. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.com wrote: My personal opinion is that Adobe needs to rebrand it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355086 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: AD domain login passes to CF App.
We use a combination of both the CGI.AUTH_USER and CFLDAP. The part that uses CGI.AUTH_USER is for our SSO so that they do not have to key in their username/password. The CFLDAP part is for querying out credentionals from LDAP/AD to then verify against a local users table that then houses application specific application rights. The integrated windows authenticaiton piece is actually only set for one specific CFM page but part of that reason is we have many AO domains and the IIS server is not a member of all of those. So if our SSO fails we have a fail back keyed in login screen. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: or you could use CFLDAP to authenticate them via CF instead, but remember, cf authentication only protects cfml pages, nothing else, so use a native server side solution is better, as Dave suggests. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: I am creating an application that requires user login. Users are all the employees within my organization, but not every user would use it; only some would. I would like to take advantage of the users' existing AD domain network logins so they don't have to keep track of another account. What they do is to login our organization's AD domain (different sever, different language) and AD would verify it and pass some kind of ID/token to my CF app. Is this possible and how can this be done? Any pointer is really appreciated. Thanks. If the web server is a member of that domain, and if it's running IIS, you can do this very easily using Integrated Windows Authentication in IIS. You'll need to set filesystem permissions accordingly, and if you want users to authenticate silently they'll have to have their browsers configured to do this. Within your CF code, you can then look at the CGI.AUTH_USER variable - at least, I think that's the right one, but you can just dump the CGI scope and see for yourself. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:352051 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Can I ask why this place has been taken over by Brian Thornton aka CFDeveloper
I agree with this. Personally I think it switching to a digest would lesson the chances of someone seeing a job that might apply to them. But guess that opinion only applies if they subscribe to the CF Jobs list itself in non-digest format. Sent from my iPad Nano On Apr 12, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Christian N. Abad li...@accessiblecomputing.com wrote: Jordan: I agree with you! I personally feel that Brian Thornton is performing a fantastic service for the CF Community in general. Thank You, Brian! :-) Personally, I have seen over 15 possible job opportunities from Brian's postings that are an excellent fit for my skillset, although I'm not currently looking at this time (but I do like to keep my finger on the pulse of this list). Just my $0.02 as well... Cheers! Christian N. Abad - President Accessible Computing, Inc. 1210 McLaughlin Drive Charlotte, NC 28212 http://www.AccessibleComputing.com 704.900.1825 (Direct Line) li...@accessiblecomputing.com -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:jor...@viviotech.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:30 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: Re: Can I ask why this place has been taken over by Brian Thornton aka CFDeveloper Not that my opinion really matters here, but I don't see the problem. That is a CF-Jobs list, and the posts are listing real jobs. Is that not the content that the majority of subscribers of CF-Jobs are wanting? I would hardly call posts with legitimate content spam simply because a single person (who isn't interested in the content anyway) doesn't like it. The content is true to the purpose of the list. No big deal. My $0.02. -Jordan On 04/11/2012 12:49 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: I'm going to ask Brian to send a daily summary or something like it. The amount of generated posts are hiding the individual posts from others. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Larry C. Lyonslarrycly...@gmail.com wrote: These are legitimate jobs however. It appears that Brian has written an app that goes through Craigslist looking for CF related jobs. That would be a community service if you ask me. BTW jerry, lets keep this confined to cf-jobs-talk and not clutter up cf-jobs. regards, larry On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Albright je...@profsearchgroup.com wrote: His non stop spam is ridiculous. Is anyone in charge here? Is this place simply a free-for-all? Left to the demise of someone who thinks it's helpful to soak this place with Craigslist ads? Wow. This is ridiculous. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFScript Book
You might be surprised at how many people I come across in the industry who are making a good solid living writing CF apps but barely can write CSS, HTML, JavaScript and really even much in regards to SQL. Quite often though they are using some sort of CF framework or other core tool that a more advanced group of CF people developed. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote: Right. I was talking about why _I_ generally don't like cfscript. But, honestly, if they don't really know how to do anything in javascript, then I'm not sure what they're doing writing CFML (or any web application development language). Scott On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: The people I was referring to I am certain do not know how to write anything or much of anything in JavaScript. So it is not a matter of CFScript confusing them into thinking it is JavaScript. -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350024 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFScript Book
Agreed and someone could always write themselves some custom functions as wrappers to CF tags for prior versions CF or perhaps even what is missing in the current. To a point at least. I have been a CFScript Nazi for well over a decade now but fully recognize a place for it and a place for when to use the tags. I very rarely use it for outputting things and can't say I really have had a need for much of the added tags-to-functions introduced in CF9. We though have many pre-CF9 servers so also does not make too much sense for me to write anything specific to CF9. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote: As of CF9, the vast majority of CF can be written in script, if you desire. Almost every tag has a cfscript equivalent (I believe there were a few that didn't make the cut, but I can't recall which ones off-hand). Of course, some things are a bit more tedious doing them in script (such as outputting content and running queries). Scott On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: I do wish Adobe would fill out CF so that one could write mostly in cfscript and avoid cf tags altogether, if desired. It would also help when I end up around small-minded coders who scoff at CF merely because of the tags.On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Cameron Childress -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFScript Book
I have worked with CF developers who scoff at any CFScript usage but for reasons most would not assume. They did it because they flat out did not understand the syntax and I am not referring to some abundant overuse of CFScript here. It can sometimes be a balancing act of coding how you want and/or think you should v. staying employed and making some adjustments so others stay happy. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Robert Rhodes rrhode...@gmail.com wrote: I do wish Adobe would fill out CF so that one could write mostly in cfscript and avoid cf tags altogether, if desired. It would also help when I end up around small-minded coders who scoff at CF merely because of the tags. I've never changed my coding style to make a non-CF developer happy, seems a waste of time. If you prefer it, that's one thing, but you should never measure your own self worth by comments made by someone ignorant of the language. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350005 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFScript Book
The people I was referring to I am certain do not know how to write anything or much of anything in JavaScript. So it is not a matter of CFScript confusing them into thinking it is JavaScript. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Scott Brady dsbr...@gmail.com wrote: My main issue with cfscript is that it's easy to confuse at first glance between that and javascript (for cases when you have JS mixed in with CF code, as the legacy app I work on at work has). So, it's not really cfscript's fault as much as a personal bugaboo. Scott On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked with CF developers who scoff at any CFScript usage but for reasons most would not assume. They did it because they flat out did not understand the syntax and I am not referring to some abundant overuse of CFScript here. It can sometimes be a balancing act of coding how you want and/or think you should v. staying employed and making some adjustments so others stay happy. -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350017 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: How many products in a specific category?
You should be able to just do this in one query. Syntax for the query might be dependent upon what database you are using though. But something like this general syntax should work: SELECT C.ID, C.CATEGORY, C.RANK, COUNT(P.ID) CNT FROMCATEGORIES C LEFT OUTER JOIN PRODUCTS P ON C.CATEGORY = P.CATEGORY GROUP BY C.ID, C.CATEGORY, C.RANK ORDER BY C.RANK Then you can loop over the results, display your category and rank then within the parenthesis you output the CNT for the count of products for that category. I'd personally avoid putting a query within a loop, it might be okay for this but can be a very bad habit to get into. Aaron On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: Well, I think you've put me on the right track, so thank you very much. I'm going to read up on CFLOOP in the book. Thanks again. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services http://www.northgoods.com Maybe not the most efficient way but you can loop through the GetCategories query and within each iteration of the loop get the associated product count using another query. Not tested but this should work: cfloop query=GetCategories cfquery name=GetProducts datasource=XYZ SELECT Products.ID, Products.CATEGORY FROM products WHERE Products.CATEGORY = #GetCategories.Categories.ID# /cfquery cfoutputGetCategories.CATEGORY ( #GetPorducts.RecordCount # )/cfoutput /cfloop ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: How many products in a specific category?
BTW, I did a left outer join in my example for if you ever have categories with zero products. Forgot to clarify that point earlier. Glad to hear you have things working out for your needs. Aaron On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: Eureka!! A few minor modifications and your code worked like a charm. Not only did the code work but I learned more about Aggregate Functions and GROUP BY, (page 174 of Mastering...) Thanks so much to Aaron, Leigh, Akos and Jacob for your assistance. Dave You should be able to just do this in one query. Syntax for the query might be dependent upon what database you are using though. But something like this general syntax should work: SELECT C.ID, C.CATEGORY, C.RANK, COUNT(P.ID) CNT FROMCATEGORIES C LEFT OUTER JOIN PRODUCTS P ON C.CATEGORY = P.CATEGORY GROUP BY C.ID, C.CATEGORY, C.RANK ORDER BY C.RANK Then you can loop over the results, display your category and rank then within the parenthesis you output the CNT for the count of products for that category. I'd personally avoid putting a query within a loop, it might be okay for this but can be a very bad habit to get into. Aaron On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Dave Long d...@northgoods.com wrote: Well, I think you've put me on the right track, so thank you very much. I'm going to read up on CFLOOP in the book. Thanks again. Dave Long NorthGoods Merchant Services http://www.northgoods.com Maybe not the most efficient way but you can loop through the GetCategories query and within each iteration of the loop get the associated product count using another query. Not tested but this should work: cfloop query=GetCategories cfquery name=GetProducts datasource=XYZ SELECT Products.ID, Products.CATEGORY FROM products WHERE Products.CATEGORY = #GetCategories.Categories.ID# /cfquery cfoutputGetCategories.CATEGORY ( #GetPorducts.RecordCount # )/cfoutput /cfloop ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349230 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion - Long Running Processes - Garbage Collection - structDelete
Years ago we moved an App from CF5 to I believe it was CF6 and ran into issues with one of it's scheduled jobs never being able to finish. This job 26 or so LDAP calls that brought down 70k or so records and inserted them into the database and then did some misc other queries after all that. At the time I tried a lot of different approaches to try and just get it working again and ultimately did something like what you are describing. I did actually make it a web service call that was fed I think 50 rows of records to insert at a time. This seemed to at least allow the process to finish running. Now days I use CFTHREAD though to work around these sort of issues and had some pretty decent success going that route. On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Ryan Duckworth ryanduckworth...@gmail.comwrote: Another trick, that is less than ideal, and would require re-writing a significant amount of code is to have 2 pages: The 1st page would contain the loop and use cfhttp to call the 2nd page that actually does the processing. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:349214 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is CFMAIL reliable??
We just recently ran into an issue on one of our CF8 enterprise servers that the mail had to be restarted. We figured it was probably because we are not up to date on the fixes/patches for CF on that server. Even saw postings online that described our same basic symptoms and how I believe one of the Hot Fixes addressed it. Our fix for right now has been to have a scheduled job run to check if things are not going out and to restart the spooler if that is the case. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Bobby Hartsfield bo...@acoderslife.comwrote: I can only say I've not ran into any issues with the spool needing to be kick started and we send ridiculous amounts of email all day from about 20 different CF 8.01 enterprise servers... all via cfmail. .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com http://cf4em.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348973 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
I have worked with people from India who spoke better English than I do and outside Sarcasm that is the only language I know. They were a LOT cheaper than me and reading the rest of this thread I see i actually charge a little below the low side of what people consider normal rates. In some cases I was taking over projects from them and in other cases they were taking projects over from me. I also have dealt with a lot of very crummy made applications out of the India region but to be fair I have dealt with my fair share of crummy made ones that were made in the States too. The big issue we have ran into though is the rather extreme fudging of skillsets from people in India. For our Java team we had to develop and entire process for validating their skillsets but then the next problem comes in and that is the huge turnover rates over in India. On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: The $20 per hour rates mainly come form India via sites like freelancer.com which is full of outsourcing companies. This is what you have to compete with. If a client wants to deal with someone native who speaks English properly, then they will pay your rates, if they just want the cheapest price possible then they will go to India. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347653 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 20USD/Hour Seriously?
Are you sure he really was a .NET developer? Like I said we have ran into huge issues with fudging of skillsets and why we had to develop extensive testing methods for anyone going onto our Java team, so we can weed out the just plain fakes. But also like I said we still have to deal with the other issue of the huge turn around over there. Seems like people have zero loyalty for the company they work for and will leave at the drop of the hat to go to another company paying more. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: So in less than 1 hour, I did what he was unable to do in 1 week, and he was a .NET developer where as I have ZERO .NET knowledge, never written a single line of .net code in my life. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked with people from India who spoke better English than I do and outside Sarcasm that is the only language I know. They were a LOT cheaper than me and reading the rest of this thread I see i actually charge a little below the low side of what people consider normal rates. In some cases I was taking over projects from them and in other cases they were taking projects over from me. I also have dealt with a lot of very crummy made applications out of the India region but to be fair I have dealt with my fair share of crummy made ones that were made in the States too. The big issue we have ran into though is the rather extreme fudging of skillsets from people in India. For our Java team we had to develop and entire process for validating their skillsets but then the next problem comes in and that is the huge turnover rates over in India. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347676 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF vs. Java Web Developer
I am far less distracted when working from home. I typically will get more done in 8 hours at home than I probably get done in at least 16 hours in one of the offices I work out of. I actually feel like I goof off more at home then when in an office but can't say I ever tried measuring such things. It is not just an issue of if someone is capable of efficiently working from home. Also an issue of if the people managing them can efficiently manage people they might never or hardly see in person. Some people just have to see others in person. What I see a lot for employees who work from home is they seem to get passed up for promotions and raises more so than the ones that work in the office. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: working from home doesn't work for a lot of people though, there are too many distractions There are too many distractions _for you_ but WFH works very well for a lot of organizations. World Singles, for example, is completely distributed - management, sales marketing, customer service, engineering - everyone works from home. There are certainly some _people_ for which WFH doesn't work :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345643 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Dreamweaver
It is not that bad. I do work for multiple companies and they provide me machines/software to use at them. One company is using Dreamweaver CS5 and I probably do 60-65% of my total workload there. Another company that I do probably 25% of my workload has Dreamweaver 8 on the workstation that I am using then Dreamweaver CS3 on one of the boxes I remote desktop into. At home I have CS4 but I honestly don't use that computer much for coding these days. I never have felt some huge leap in how to use the UI between any of those versions. When I went from CS4 to CS5 I remember seeing some nice new features via using the program and liking them. But right now I honestly can't recall what it/they are. I do know the JS support in CS5 is something that I sometimes miss when using the machine with 8. I forced myself off of Homesite onto Dreamweaver MX many years ago. Still some things I miss in Homesite but nothing that has made me go so far as to install it or even to take note of. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks for that warning, think I'll stick with what I have for the time being. Jenny -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 June 2011 00:40 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sorry it has been many years since I used CS3 so I don't recall the specifics. Likewise, my gut feeling is that CS4 was a huge improvement over CS3 but I don't remember exactly why. Be aware that there was a huge change in the product UI between CS3 and CS4 so it may take some getting used to if you upgrade... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Dreamweaver
True, all of what I am working on is Windows based machines. The UI though is different in CS5 but I never found myself once trying to figure out where something went or how to do something different in it. My guess is in Windows it is nothing to fear, I'd not know for Macs since don't have DW installed on either of those. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: Reading Aaron's response, I suspect it may depend on your platform. I seem to recall the change was more disruptive for Mac users than Windows users (prior to CS5, I believe the Windows and Mac UIs were very different?). Sean On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: It is not that bad. I do work for multiple companies and they provide me machines/software to use at them. One company is using Dreamweaver CS5 and I probably do 60-65% of my total workload there. Another company that I do probably 25% of my workload has Dreamweaver 8 on the workstation that I am using then Dreamweaver CS3 on one of the boxes I remote desktop into. At home I have CS4 but I honestly don't use that computer much for coding these days. I never have felt some huge leap in how to use the UI between any of those versions. When I went from CS4 to CS5 I remember seeing some nice new features via using the program and liking them. But right now I honestly can't recall what it/they are. I do know the JS support in CS5 is something that I sometimes miss when using the machine with 8. I forced myself off of Homesite onto Dreamweaver MX many years ago. Still some things I miss in Homesite but nothing that has made me go so far as to install it or even to take note of. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks for that warning, think I'll stick with what I have for the time being. Jenny -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:seancorfi...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 June 2011 00:40 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: sorry it has been many years since I used CS3 so I don't recall the specifics. Likewise, my gut feeling is that CS4 was a huge improvement over CS3 but I don't remember exactly why. Be aware that there was a huge change in the product UI between CS3 and CS4 so it may take some getting used to if you upgra ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345248 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFFTP SSH
I cheated and just connected via WinSCP's command line interface and grabbed the key from that. I have two different apps that transfer files via SFTP and one of them is just doing a CFEXECUTE and WinSCP but the newer one is using CFFTP securely. On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Rick Root rick.r...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody is doing this? On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Rick Root rick.r...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm thinking about migrating an app from our linux server to a coldfusion solution. Currently I'm using Perl to run a daily script which retrieves a file via SSH from a remote server, and pushes it up to our mainframe via regular FTP then senda a special JCL file (also via FTP) which causes the mainframe to run a job. coldfusion 8 added secure FTP capability, so we're investigating moving this process to CF since we have more CF knowledge than UNIX/Perl knowledge. The only thing I'm not really sure about is using keytool to generate the key pair. I did keytool -genkey to generate the key and then keytool -export to export they key to a file ... Is that the public key that I sent to the remote server? It doesn't *LOOK* the same as the key that I generated using the SSH keygen tool on the linux server (id_rsa.pub). Mostly because the id_rsa.pub file is all alphanumeric characters while the file I generated using keytool has non-alphanumeric characters. It also has readable parts like I can see the word North Carolina in it, whereas the id_rsa.pub file on the linux server does not have anything readable. Rick Root ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344972 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: HOF Site
I reported a hacked server to the FBI once and seemed like they never did anything. Then one day, many months if not years later, the FBI contacted me wanting the hard drive for evidence. It turned out the person who did the hacking had been getting into many other servers and they finally caught the guy. I just assumed it was a person stateside but not like the FBI really gave me any details beyond a slip of paper when they picked up the drive and whenever they returned the drive. So from my experience, I'd always report such things since never know if it might be information that at one point in time could be used against the hackers. Not like it takes any significant amount of time to report it. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear jenn...@fasttrackonline.co.uk wrote: Hi Ben, Sadly, from personal experience, I agree. I had a situation with a hosting company a few years ago, the police (American) weren't interested. I did place a complaint with IC3. I got one email back from them, and after that they took no interest. If the American police won't help, there isn't much chance if the offender is in somewhere like China. Jenny ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344887 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: scoping
I know several CF people who love the language and been making a living off it for around a decade. None of them scope things nor do they even understand what scoping is. On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: ALWAYS SCOPE! Quite I've been struggling with a site for a side job and no scoping whatsoever. I'd love to discuss this with the original developer. Although the site is such a kludge I suspect that now this person is a CF hater now. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344806 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: scoping
I know people who have horrible code readability and been in the same teams for 5-10 years. I have worked with a lot of different teams over the years and most of them the readability of the code appeared to be way down on their lists of things to be done. They quite often would state otherwise but when going through the code itself, their statements did not align up with what they actually did. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Matt Robertson websitema...@gmail.comwrote: is at least as important as the former. And anyone blowing off code readability is going to be on the street looking for a job on a different team. -- --m@Robertson-- Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344744 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Re: scoping
I have no reason for it but this is the one thing I tend to never prefix a scope before when referencing. I often think about it but just never have adjusted my ways. So if I have cfquery name=qryGetData ... I do not do cfoutput#Variables.qryGetData.ColumnName#/cfoutput instead I do cfoutput#qryGetData.ColumnName#/cfoutput I like to think of myself as a scoping Nazi but this one case I slack on. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: (BTW, you should also scope query names). . Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344748 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: scoping
See, depending on what the entire CFM page looked like and it's usage along with what brought me into the code to debug things then I personally may not see that output as obvious. Now I look at it that way because I have inherited code from others who just plain had zero clue about scoping variables. I can even think of times where they had something exactly like you described but they actually were expecting the values from URL.myVariable When you have cfoutput#Variables.myVariable#/cfoutput then I can't see why they'd ever question where is this coming from since the scope tells them right there this is something set locally to the page. But then again when you are dealing with someone else's code then you really have no clue what their understanding of the language was or what their intent was. A cfset variables.myVariable = fubar / and cfset myVariable = fubar / are doing the exact same thing. So to me they both ensure that a myVariable will exist within the variables scope. It's just the output of things that I have found I often need to go hunting to figure out what their intent was. As I said before though, this is just in reference to straight CFM pages. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:55 AM, Dominic Watson watson.domi...@googlemail.com wrote: Curiously, I do it the exact opposite way: cfset variables.myVariable = fubar / !--- ensure that I am setting in the variables scope, because there could be a 'myVariable' in another scope --- cfoutput#myVariable#/cfoutput !--- I have just guaranteed that I have variables.myVariable, there is no possibility (afaik) that I could be refering to another 'myVariable'. --- However, I should probably scope both. Dominic On 18 May 2011 19:26, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: This is my outlook although I do not do something like: cfset Variables.strBlah = something / instead I do: cfset strBlah = something / But I always would do: cfoutput#Variables.strBlah#/cfoutput or cfif Variables.strBlah IS something Seems to me that is what the original OP is asking about but perhaps I am reading too much into it based upon what I do. This is all in reference to just straight CFM pages. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: scoping
This is my outlook although I do not do something like: cfset Variables.strBlah = something / instead I do: cfset strBlah = something / But I always would do: cfoutput#Variables.strBlah#/cfoutput or cfif Variables.strBlah IS something Seems to me that is what the original OP is asking about but perhaps I am reading too much into it based upon what I do. This is all in reference to just straight CFM pages. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: ALWAYS SCOPE! Especially if someone else might have to maintain the code someday. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: We had a discussion at work as to whether or not we should scope local vars with the variables. scope since that is implied in a cfset. One camp says it is not needed because of the implicit scoping when using cfset...the other camp says it is better to tack on variables. and make it explicit for security and readability. Any thoughts? Er ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344626 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
Same here and that is basically what we are doing today with Verity. This whole thread though is making me want to get started on Solr testing since the plan was eventually to migrate from our Verity solution to Solr. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Mary Jo, I have a hard time believing this cant be done (not that I doubt your thoroughness). It seems like a batch of 10 items is pretty small potatoes. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:mary...@cfwebstore.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:27 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Solr Errors Cool, thanks I'll try that. The info I had from the Solr folks was to set autowarmCount=0 for all the caching, but that didn't seem to have any effect. Maybe removing caching completely will do it. Sigh, nope I commented out the three types of caches in the config file and still get the error. Tried lowering the size on them as well, but even with sleeping for a minute after every cfindex, I still get the error. The only thing that prevents it is upping the setting for maxWarmingSearchers to something like 10, then I don't hit the limit. But not sure this is going to be a valid solution, since if a user tries to add a batch of say, 20 items, I can expect to still crash on this. It's looking like I won't be able to use Solr for the data at this point, at least, not if I want it immediately available in a search. I'm not sure I have enough time late in this project to build some kind of other module for Solr to do this, it's more important right now to just get it working, so that looks like just doing a plain SQL search of the data (yuck). --- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Solr Errors
We are planning to test switching off it since the rumor mill is that the next version of CF will no longer have Verity. On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.comwrote: Hhm, I wonder if I just need to switch over the Verity then? Didn't really want to redo all the syntax for my searches, but if it works ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SQL selecting distinct items by date?
You could add the fields you need to your query then do a GROUP on the CFOUTPUT. That will then be able to weed through the duplicates caused by differences in the data. Also could/should eliminate the need to add queries within your loop. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 1:21 PM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: Here's what I ended up with SELECT distinct TOP 5 pc.nCategoryID, c.sCategory, YEAR(p.dPartDate) AS theyear, MONTH(p.dPartDate) AS themonth, DAY(p.dPartDate) AS theday FROM Category c INNER JOIN PartCat pc ON pc.nCategoryID=c.nCategoryID inner join part p on pc.npartid=p.npartid order by theyear DESC, themonth desc, theday desc Adding any part-specific fields to the select list results in duplicate CategoryIDs, and I don't fully understand why the DISTINCT can't remain exclusive to the CategoryID field, but so far I think it'll do what's needed. The results can be looped over to get more detail which means subqueries, but it functions. Combining TOP and DISTINCT with GROUP/ORDER remains somewhat uncertain... -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 10:55 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: SQL selecting distinct items by date? SELECT TOP 5 DISTINCT pivot.CategoryID, Category.Name, YEAR(Item.DateAdded) AS theyear, MONTH(Item.DateAdded) AS themonth, DAY(Item.DateAdded) AS theday On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote: More on SQL-topic than CF (MS SQL), but hopefully is an easy one. I have items with a datetime field that stores when the items are added to the DB. There is a pivot table that links items to categories. I'm trying to pull out the top 5 unique categories with the newest-added items. This is what I'm trying to do even though the syntax doesn't work: SELECT TOP 5 DISTINCT pivot.CategoryID, Category.Name, Item.DateAdded FROM Category INNER JOIN pivot ON Category.CategoryID = pivot.CategoryID INNER JOIN Item ON pivot.ItemID = Item.ItemID ORDER BY Item.DateAdded DESC I can get close, but the DateAdded fields are always unique (sometimes only seconds apart, but unique) so no matter what I do it always thinks the result records are unique and won't give me unique CategoryIDs. Ideas? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Oracle function question...
I have seen people do this a number of ways. The one that pops into my head currently is using the DECODE function within the ORDER BY. If you Google for that then you will see a number of examples online. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I seem to remember a function in oracle that allows you to set criteria to list elements of a query result to display first, then the rest of the result set follows whatever is listed in the order by statement. I am jsut drawing a total blank on the function name as it has been a couple of years since I have worked with Oracle. Anyone happen to know what i am referring to? Thanks! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340336 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: How to make a CFSELECT Required
You could add to the page your own _CF_hasValue function and let the new one handle any non out of the box needs. There is even an example of this done in a old comment on Ben Forta's blog. The example is for a single select, so if I understand the OP's original email then I think it would work for this need. Here is a direct link to the comment that was made: http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=A61BB31F-3048-80A9-EFC01CEF006F9775#cC53F7D0A-3048-80A9-EF775D5DC62C6FA7 http://forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=A61BB31F-3048-80A9-EFC01CEF006F9775#cC53F7D0A-3048-80A9-EF775D5DC62C6FA7 Aaron On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com wrote: It only applies to CFFORMS. not quite the same thing. No, I think you misunderstood. I was responding to Azadi's comment. There is a note in the documentation mentioning the required/space fix applies only to size=1 lists, and only with flash forms. I thought something may have changed. http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/Tags_r-s_14.html -Leigh ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339714 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Best Way to Handle Multiple Related Selects?
Same here and in most cases found it to be faster than doing Ajax calls but guess it would greatly depend on the amount of select options and speed of the connections being used. I have done our organizational hierarchy using qForms and we have a ton of nodes and saw no performance issues. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Will Tomlinson w...@wtomlinson.comwrote: Im trying to get four related selects to work---basically, you can change any one of the selects and it will reload the other 3 based on your selection. I've used qForms with great success. I had up to 7 related selects - handled it, no problem. http://www.pengoworks.com/qforms/docs/examples/n-related_selectboxes.htm Will ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:328615 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: format time to local
I store the date based upon the timezone the database server sits in. Then for each location I store the timezone information and do date/time differencing when displaying things for the user to see. What I use is a combination of things within Oracle and some ColdFusion. This in turn takes into account DSTs as well as allows me to have a system that should work if the DB ever were to be moved to another timezone for some reason. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote: yes good point, also there will be users in usa eventually starting to use it, have you come across this before or seen how others have dealt with this? thanks Richard White wrote: we have a website used in uk. and the server is in usa. and does DST kick in the same time in your timezone (tz) as it does in the server's tz? and will this be the case for the life of the app? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:324997 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfdot.net new Coldfusion / C# Comparison site
Do not know if you are aware of this but you are listing functions and tags under the CF Tags section then it shows nothing listed under the CF Functions section. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, In a quest to get better at ASP.net and C# I have built the following site: www.cfdot.net in C#.net. The purpose of the CFDot Project (CFDot.net) is to create a code comparison library between common ColdFusion syntax tasks and the equivelant using C#.net 3.5 syntax. These libraries are open source and may be used and modified to your liking. These examples will hopefully speed up development knowledge from Coldfusion to C#.net and visa versa. I would really appreciate any feedback and please please submit your own code comparisons. Please feel free to drop me an email. I am also on twitter: http://twitter.com/cfdotnet Jose ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:322766 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion vs Sharepoint
We have a ton of those consultants and they do not make it any less difficult. They just get paid a ton of money to deal with how difficult it is. On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 12:23 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: Concur. And there are Sharepoint consultants that make plenty of $ to make it less difficult... On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Aaron Rouse aaron.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Most anything with Sharepoint is rather difficult to do when wanting to do something not 100% out of the box or atleast that has been our experience. On Friday, May 8, 2009, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Can CF interact with Sharepoint in anyway? We have a CF solution that we can tailor to our clients needs...I am not a SharePoint expert, but I guess I have A LOT more research to do this weekend! Sharepoint exposes web services, which in theory can be consumed by CF. But this has been pretty difficult for the specific things I've looked at, myself. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:322353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion vs Sharepoint
Most anything with Sharepoint is rather difficult to do when wanting to do something not 100% out of the box or atleast that has been our experience. On Friday, May 8, 2009, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Can CF interact with Sharepoint in anyway? We have a CF solution that we can tailor to our clients needs...I am not a SharePoint expert, but I guess I have A LOT more research to do this weekend! Sharepoint exposes web services, which in theory can be consumed by CF. But this has been pretty difficult for the specific things I've looked at, myself. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:322348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF8 Enterprise worth the cost? Any experience with it in a virtual environment?
I think things like faster cfmail are good to have in a shared hosting environment. There you end up with a lot of small or perhaps medium sized applications where each does a decent amount of email that cfmail is more than capable of handling. It all ends up adding up on the server itself though which is where the added performance would help out. Same logic could be applied to the other features that see a boost in performance with the Enterprise. Now if it all equals out to a better buy than just buying a few copies of professional that I do not know. I also do not know how the licensing works and if you can just get one copy of Enterprise and put it on one big box and run many instances of that copy of Enterprise on there, if so then that would be another possible reason to get it over multiple copies of Pro. So while 99% of the sites individually may not benefit by themselves, a lot perhaps could if all in the same shared hosted environment. With all that said we run enterprise because of Oracle and honestly the cost of enterprise for this company is like a drop in the old bucket or perhaps even swimming pool. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.comwrote: and 99% of sites don't need any of that. some of those are just nice to have, and certainly don't merit spending five thousand. Even larger sites, that have enough traffic to need two servers don't need that stuff. If you are serious about email delivery you usually don't use cfmail, am i right? there are too many controls left out in cfmail that make it a bad choice for mass marketing campaigns to hundreds of thousands or millions of users. But... I digress.. Anyways, all I meant to say (which was in response to the query here), performance is NOT going to improve simply because you have purchased enterprise. Your much better off to take that five thousand bucks and beef up your hardware if you are trying to improve performance. UNLESS you are going to start clustering servers. 3 clustered servers do typically outperform one server. Dan On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:21 AM, James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/26 Dan Baughman dan.baugh...@gmail.com: Enterprise only offers cluster management. And Oracle drivers, non-throttled cfdocument/threading/mail and other features that are performance limited in Standard, monitoring, more VM deployement flexibility, J2EE deployment, JSP integration, sandboxing, strong crypto... mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321002 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: scopes
Just use the StructAppend() function, a lot less code. cfset StructAppend(FORM, URL, false) / May or may not want that over write flag set to false, just depends on the situation/goals. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Azadi Saryev az...@sabai-dee.com wrote: all your form dot names are evaluated by cf as variables.form.somename 'form' is a reserved scope name in cf. it is noted in cf reference manual that one should NOT use built-in cf scope names as variable names. when you do, you can never be sure what you get in the end... like in your case, cf creates a variable named 'form' in the variables scope - it has no relation to the built-in form scope (thus you get an empty form dump). what you should use instead is: cfif structkeyexists(url, username) cfloop collection=#url# item=key cfset form[key] = url[key]!--- or form[key] = duplicate(url[key]) if you need a deep copy --- /cfloop /cfif Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Brian Dumbledore wrote: ok I was trying something and did this: cfif isdefined(url.username) cfset form = duplicate(url) /cfif And then I go about the rest as if the request came from a form post (I use form dot notation everywhere afterwards). When I did a cfdump var=#form# it doesn't recognize the form scope, but this works cfdump var=#variables.form# But every where else in the code it works fine (recorgnizes all form dot names that were originally sent as url parameters) So is cf not supposed to handle the dump 'logically'? Can someone please reason this behavior? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320932 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: How do you get motivated at work?
I plan on how I am going to snap in the workplace when I get laid off or just told we do not have any more work for you since contractors do not really get laid off. I used to wonder how many human skulls I'd have to throw at the window to break it but never could determine what type of glass it is. Must be some strong glass since we are so high up in the air. The doom and gloom just motivates me I suppose. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: After writing CFC's after CFC's, CFM's after CFM's, what are things that really motivate you at work? Fear mostly. Oh wait... You mean other than the fear of getting laid off during difficult economic times? In that case. Beer. G! On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM, henry ho henr...@doteasy.com wrote: After writing CFC's after CFC's, CFM's after CFM's, what are things that really motivate you at work? -- Gerald Guido http://www.myinternetisbroken.com To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas A. Edison ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320898 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: dynamic variable
You do not need the evaluate functions, I would do something like:
Variables[product_price_#c#] = getProduct[product_price_#c#][1];
The one being the placement in the query, I am just assuming it will return
only one row and always one row and that is all you care to reference.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Mike Little m...@nzsolutions.co.nzwrote:
ok, for...
for (i=1; i LTE listLen(currencies); i=i+1) {
c = listGetAt(currencies, i);
product_price_#c# = evaluate('getProduct.product_price_' c);
product_price_sale_#c# = evaluate('getProduct.product_price_sale_' c);
}
i still get...
ColdFusion was looking at the following text:
\
The CFML compiler was processing:
A script statement beginning with product_price_ on line 98, column 2.
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Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
I do not blame the companies one bit. I think they are getting around the H1B visa need here via just bringing them stateside briefly for training and then shipping them back to their home countries to do the job. Perhaps I am wrong on that though, I do not know much about how all the different visas work. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Ravi Gehlot r...@ravigehlot.net wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/economy-slumps-firms-line-hire-skilled-foreign-workers/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
Interesting outlook although over here at least the CIO's message to managers is move all development to the east(they are referring to India) because we are not an IT company. I had a meeting last week with a local manager and he told me they are seeing a 50% drop in efficiency by moving things to the east then he mentioned another 20% drop but I forget what that was for. He then went on to say how he then ends up paying for a competent PM locally to interface with one overseas whereas before he would have developers who wore the PM hat under his direction. Overall he said he is ending up with lesser quality work and paying more money but has been forced to go this direction. So basically the quality and integrity of the current workers means very little to the higher ups here. I'd like to think that I do a really good and honest job and for fair rates. I know I certainly have plenty of references to back that thought up. However more times than not I feel like I am treated more like a servant than anything else. Guess I should get back to working on the training document I am making to use to train the overseas based developers that are replacing me in upcoming months. Oh the joys of corporate IT. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Ravi Gehlot r...@ravigehlot.net wrote: Hello Jeffry, I hear that a lotI believe that there is good and bad everywhere. In my opinion, if you are really good and you do your job honestly, no matter who you are (native or foreigner), that you will get paid fairly and you will not be treated as servants (not sure about other countries). Be it a foreigner or a native, it does not really matter anymore. It may have mattered in the past but not anymore. I do not believe that foreigners are taking away the jobs natives can do (I refer to computer related jobs). I believe that natives are choosing the best work force for their current needs. Do I think that it is somewhat harder for foreigners than it is for natives? Yes. I do think that it is but this is a country of opportunity. The kind of opportunity that you will never find elsewhere. So I would take any hardness that I find here for a chance to better myself. H1B Visas are HARDLY being issued (so I hear). Its almost unheard of these days. Either you come here on a student visa (I-20 co-op program) or you better have a Green Card. H1B Visas can cost a LOT of money to companies and it is ONLY worth in exceptional cases. I heard about a company that brought this Chinese dude that was phenomenal. He could do virtually anything you can imagine. He was one of a kind programmer...very smart...later got admitted at MIT and today if I am not mistaken he works for NASA. The company sponsored his Green Card and everything. Only those kind of people are getting H1B Visas these days (so I heard). It is very selective these days. My sister is a Canadian citizen and she was telling me about Canadian immigration laws the other day. She told me that in order for anyone to enter Canada that they need to be qualified. The Canadians have a score system. You need to have a certain score in order to enter Canada. So for example, if you have a bachelors degree you automatically get more points. If you have a valid work history then that also counts towards your score. This way only the qualified people get in. What I love about Canada is that once they filtered everyone, they make it easy for you to get the Canadian citizenship. Forget about this bullshit of Green Card. There are no talks about foreigners being servants in Canadians (so I hear). I just think that we should implement some type of score system or qualification measurement so to only let those who are qualified into the country. Indeed, make it easy for newcomers to get their Green Cards. woww...OK! I gotta work now...got carried away...anyways...cya Ravi. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
From what I gathered last week it is not just within their boarders. Like I mentioned someone here is already looking into outsourcing work to an outfit out of Brazil. About 7 years ago I worked on a project here that was with a Brazilian. Shared an office with him for about a year before he moved back and he has been working remotely from there ever since. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Ravi Gehlot r...@ravigehlot.net wrote: Hello Aaron, Right. I read that on the Washington Post the other day. I heard that Brazil has had an increase in tech jobs and more people are employed there these days. However, their jobs are not so much outsourced jobs from other countries but jobs created within their boundaries. Not sure how that's working though. Brazil is investing big bucks on education. They are creating more private schools than they ever created before which is good. Hopefully in years to come there will be more qualified Brazilians and more research coming from there. I have lived and worked in Brazil, Portugal, Canada and US. I have never experienced a market as aggressive as the US market. You work a lot here and you stress a lot. They take the milk out of you here. There is nothing like a laid back job in the US but we get remunerated and we learn a lot. The more the demand, the more one works and researches. Indeed, you become a better employee you are always going something here. Ravi. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical Recruiting..
Or even themselves for the long run but in the shortrun it will make the stock holders happy. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Jeffry Houser j...@farcryfly.com wrote: RobG wrote: I like Ravi's positive outlook, but I have to somewhat disagree and say that there are lots of companies that will, without hesitation, do what's best for them, regardless of how loyal you've been or how hard you've worked. If it is a publicly traded company, it is illegal (in the US) to do anything else. The only responsibility the company has is to its shareholders. It is not uncommon for companies to change or do things that are not in the best interests of their employees, partners, or customers. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4222 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Select the last n rows in oracle.
I'd much rather deal with Oracle's that SQL Server's. At least my experience has been it is far easier for me to deal with issues with Oracle v. ones with SQL Server. On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: P.S. Sure shows how many developers don't need to work with Oracles eccentricities. For all you SQL server types, Oracle unfortunately does not understand the TOP command. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320490 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dreamweaver CRASHES!!!
Perhaps people are not ignoring issues but simply are not experiencing the issues. Not one of the DW installations over here in this group has a single issue. Versions range from 8 to CS4. Not saying you and others are not experiencing legitimate issues. I actually have had more issues with Eclipse than I have had with DW but that is just me and it truly was not a ton of issues. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Torrent Girl torrentg...@gmail.com wrote: This is a $400 piece of software made by a leading company. The more people defend it and ignore the issues, they aren't going to fix it. I have used DW for a least 5 years and have had similar problems. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318618 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dreamweaver CRASHES!!!
I have been using DW from 8 to CS4 and the only times I had major problems with it was when I had a computer issue unrelated to the software. Although I will admit sometimes uninstalling it completely and putting DW back on would fix things for awhile. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Mike Kear afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: I have found Dreamweaver to be a very stable application. From version 8 to CS3 to CS4.If you were really interested in solving your problem, I'd get rid of it completely and start again from the beginning. I'd adivise: [1] Uninstalling it completely. [2] Delete any folders or files that might be left in the install directory [3] Delete any user preferences (in windows, they're in C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Adobe\Dreamweaver CS4\en_US\Configuration [4] remove any keys in the registry [5] reboot. Then you should have removed every reference to Dreamweaver. Then I'd advise starting again from the beginning. I suspect the reason your DW is crashing all the time is there is some remnant somewhere from a previous installation that's not being overwritten by a reinstall, or some corrupted file somewhere that's not removed by the previous uninstall. I dont suppose your handle is a clue to what's gone wrong is it? Torrent girl?? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Rob Parkhill robert.parkh...@gmail.com wrote: You can try this if you are still interested in Eclipse http://www.yoxos.com/ondemand/ it basically allows you to choose what plugins/whatever you want for Eclipse, and then puts it all into a single package that you download and install (1 step, pretty sure anyways) HTH Rob On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Torrent Girl torrentg...@gmail.com wrote: I am having the same problem with DW I found this posting online http://kb.adobe. com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb402776 followed the directions and it is still crashing. I have been so unproductive behind this that i decided to install eclipse. That became a nightmare as there is not good documentation on how to set it up. Does anyone know of a good free CF editor? P.S. I have been sitting here for 3 hours restarting DW and trying to install CFECLIPSE. I have resorted to downloading a trial version of HOMESITE (I can't believe they are still selling HS) which is SAD. I am praying that IT works. A word to all current and aspiring software developers and tutorial writers, bloggers, whoever PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure your software works properly and if you write a tutorial PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make sure your instructions work INCLUDING PROPER SYNTAX and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE write a detailed description of how to install, setup and use your product. I have wasted so much production time on Dreamweaver crashing - it's pathetic. I know I am ranting but I've had it. Make it work or make it free so others can make it work. And if you do make it free like ECLIPSE, hire a darn tech writer so people can learn how to use your software ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: [SOT] avg hourly rate for mid and adv cf programmer
That seems to be the going rate down here in this neck of the woods for self employed developers working 1099. I'd thought up in DC people would get more since the cost of living I am told is much higher up there than down here. Although it also does not surprise me because the few times I have gone looking for work, I would always get out of state offers that paid no more than what I would get here but always be in places that had a higher cost of living. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: Development only with a well-defined project spec? $60/hr. Otherwise, $75/hr. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317369 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Oracle Clob support?
I have used them with Oracle XE and CF8 Enterprise without any issues. I though do not think I have put very large amounts of data into them in that environment since it is my development environment. You have to use cfqueryparams or at least that is what I found a version or two ago and just have always done it since. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Matthew Levine matt.lev...@blueriver.comwrote: Does anyone have any experience storing more than 4000 Chars of information in an oracle clob table field? I'm using the Oracle thin client with Oracle Express and CF8. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Matt Levine ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:317104 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: finding dynamic form fields after submission
I always pass a hidden form element that is a counter filled in by JS for how many fields have been added. So if I have a field named foo_1 and I add foo_2, foo3, foo_4 and take away even foo_2 my hidden counter will pass in 4. then on the processing side I do a loop over my counter, something like: cfloop from=1 to=#Form.Counter# index=i cfif StructKeyExists(FORM, foo_#i#) AND Trim(Form[Foo_#i#]) IS NOT Then do something/cfif /cfloop On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: The way I do this is to have each form field have an underscore in it. So play_1, play_2, etc Then I'd loop over the FORM collection and do a listfirst with _ as a delimiter to figure out if I've got a play, a po, a role, etc or some random field (like submit) that I don't care about. Then append the value of form.play_1 to my playarray and move on to the next item in the form collection. Judah On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Scott Stewart saste...@email.unc.edu wrote: Hey all, I have a form with one of those wonderful dynamic ad form row widgets. Because of this I never will know exactly what fields will be sent for processing... the original four fields in the row are called play, po, role, and year, the javascript generates play1, po1, role1 and year1 or 2, or 3 ad Infinitum based on how many rows the user has selected. on the processing side I need to write the form field values to a structure because there will be credit card processing before I write to the database. How can I loop over the form structure and find the dynamically generated form fields and their values. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer Office of Research Information Systems Research amp; Economic Development University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Phone:(919)843-2408 Fax: (919)962-3600 Email: saste...@email.unc.edu ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316998 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
To me Spry has its places as does jQuery. I use both quite a bit, honestly use jQuery more so than Spry but certain things I find a lot easier to use Spry for so it is one of the tools in my toolbox. CS4 has support for each but I have yet to experience that support to really comment on it, just know it is there. I have heard some interesting things on how they can be integrated into a layout when using the WSYWIG features of CS4 but since I never use that feature then I will never really know how that all works. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. I'm replying on your blog. I can say from my experience teaching Spry that most folks who aren't too familiar with JS or Ajax find it quite easy to use. Personally I found Spry a heck of a lot easier to learn than jQuery. Of course, not every style of development will work for every developer. -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316700 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dreamweaver question
How does one get the buttons back above the filenames? Back in DW8 it had some tabs for things like HTML, CFML and so on then under each tab were buttons for common things like making an HTML table. The only thing I appeared to use quite often in there was the comment block for CF because I keep going to use it and realize it disappeared when I upgraded. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Al Musella, DPM muse...@virtualtrials.comwrote: thanks! It may have sounded like a stupid question, but that tip will come in handy. I never clicked that button before! At 07:50 PM 12/10/2008, you wrote: It's the one that says file management when you mouse over it; it's two arrows next to each other (one pointing up and one pointing down). It's right next to the browser preview button. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Dreamweaver question
Thanks, my plan was to make a keyboard shortcut but figured with the recent threads on DW that I would ask if the bar could be brought back first. So far I have just been keeping it in App Developer and not tried the other workspaces. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Dawson, Michael m...@evansville.eduwrote: There really isn't a good way to do it. You are looking for the Insert panel. If you view that, you can hide the button labels and make the panel wide. However, you can't make the panel short (height) enough to simulate the DW8 button bar. Switch to the CODER PLUS workspace to find it. Personally, I would create a snippet/keyboard shortcut to wrap selected text with a CF comment. Mike -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:aaron.ro...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:10 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver question How does one get the buttons back above the filenames? Back in DW8 it had some tabs for things like HTML, CFML and so on then under each tab were buttons for common things like making an HTML table. The only thing I appeared to use quite often in there was the comment block for CF because I keep going to use it and realize it disappeared when I upgraded. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316706 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
Doesn't DW have the ability to connect to a CF Server via RDS and let you browse the CFCs and their functions? Does it fail to drill down more than that? On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:49 AM, s. isaac dealey i...@turnkey.to wrote: Tom Chiverton wrote: CS4 an IDE ? For ColdFusion coders ? Why - does it support proper IDE features like inspection and refactoring ? I've never needed and not likely to use refactoring tools. To me that goes into the category of snippets and code sweeper, things that other people find useful. The only snippet I use with any consistency is the CF comment, which I set a keyboard shortcut for. Beyond that I don't use them at all because they're not really helfpul to me - would actually slow me down I think. Inspection might be useful, but I'm not generally slowed down enough by a lack of inspection to worry about it. 1. Ctrl+F 2. enter 'cffunction name=functionIWant' 3. Find All 4. Double-click the search result - BAM! List of arguments But even that I don't do very often because I can usually remember the arguments the same way I remember the native function arguments and tag attributes (with a couple exceptions like datediff). -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316714 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dreamweaver question
Ok, so it is just the exact same thing as using ctrl+shift+u I always end up editing a few files and then just using the synchronize feature. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: and have the focus. -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver question Nope, the file just needs to be open. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/12/11 Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But to use those then the file(s) themselves need to be highlighted in the file pane, correct? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316616 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dreamweaver question
Since I am the only one who touches the files in both locations, a synchronization tool that goes just off the file dates is more than enough for me and going to assume after 3-4 years of using the one in DW that is all it does. Because really all I am doing with it is copying up the newly edited files. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Dawson, Michael m...@evansville.eduwrote: Rather than trusting DW's synchronize feature, I use Beyond Compare. It's well worth the cost $30-$50. Mike -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:aaron.ro...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Dreamweaver question Ok, so it is just the exact same thing as using ctrl+shift+u I always end up editing a few files and then just using the synchronize feature. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316634 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Is Dreamweaver CS4 taking off as an IDE?
Well I did not have to pay for the copy on my work laptop. When I started doing contract work for this group about 4.5 years ago they said we had to use DW, I think it was version 8 or MX not sure because used both of those versions for this group. At the time I had only used CFStudio or Homesite so I forced myself to switch and for a long time disliked certain things but eventually got over them and never even think about them, I think it was just specific hotkeys that I could not get to setup in DW. That manager since left here which is why we never went to CS3, the new manager had no preference but we just stuck with what we had. I ran into a specific bug in DW8 so put out the request to upgrade once CS4 was out. I waited because CS4 was in beta when I found the bug and figured best to wait to get the latest since the bug was far from a show stopper. In that time I have used CFE on a few projects and while it is free I have found I am not near as efficient with it. It takes more of my time and my time is money. There are specific things about it that I do not like. The only one that comes to mind right now is the searching which has greatly improved in Eclipse although still somethings about it that I do not like and hurt my performance when another tool works how I need it too. Now if my complaints/problems are specific to Eclipse then it does not instill a lot of confidence in me that I will like Bolt, not enough to hold out for lord knows how long until I can test drive it and see. So there is my reason for not using something free or waiting to use something that is destined to come out. I also have my hesitations about Bolt and how well it's feature set will work with past versions of CF. Also with all that said, I did buy CS4 for my home workstation. I actually bought the entire Master Collection due to having a need for several of the products it gives me. So do not look at my laptop example and think oh it is because I got it for free because I did end up buying it for my other working environment. Another thing to note since people always seem to think if someone uses DW then they use the GUI. I use and have always used DW only as a code editor for my work. Very recently I had to use DW CS4 for its WSYWIG stuff during a class I had to take. I was rather impressed with how easy it is to use but will not be using it for my work since there is no need for the type of work I do. You need to figure out what works best for you and then go with it. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote: I noticed that the chatter around DW CS4 has increased a lot lately. Isaac, Aaron, Massimo, Michael, et al, are discussing it, and, Isaac, you stated that you want to use it. And for those of you, like Isaac, who would really like to use it, my question is, why use DW CS4 instead of say, CFEclipse, when DW is $400 and CFE is free? (Also especially since Adobe's IDE is right around the corner...) It's a sincere question, because although I like CFE, it's lacking some features, such as FTP connectivity and manual (saved!) code folding, that I really want. So I'm considering DW. I've considered downloading it and giving it a shot, but I've done that since before it was called Drumbeat and I've never found it appealing, especially not at $400. So, what makes it so good in you who are using it? Is it's feature set, or stability, or whatever, the selling point for you? Thanks for the feedback... Rick ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316651 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Dreamweaver question
But to use those then the file(s) themselves need to be highlighted in the file pane, correct? On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:50 PM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's the one that says file management when you mouse over it; it's two arrows next to each other (one pointing up and one pointing down). It's right next to the browser preview button. mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/12/11 Al Musella, DPM [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't find the PUT button on the document toolbar.. what does it look like? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316591 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: What IDEs are folks using?
I am using CS4 primarily although have not messed with any of its new features. Now I am wondering about the live code. The only thing that annoys me and mainly because DW8 that I had before on here did not do it is if I am tabbed over writing code and go to a new line in DW8 if I hit backspace it went back one tab but in CS4 it just goes back one space. I assume that is just a setting issue but not been motivated enough to go digging through all of its settings to figure it out plus it does not happen when in script blocks so only annoying when writing tags. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Gerald Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I am not producing raw Java bytecode by rubbing 2 sticks of ram together I like to use notepad err I mean CFEclipse/Aptana. I am REALLY digging DW CS4... it is offering CF debugging info and some mind numbing real time live code action... It is like Firebug - The Movie. G!!! On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Neil Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious as to what people are using for IDE of choice these days. I'm sure some folks have moved toward the Eclipse-based IDE but are any of you using the IBM Rational IDE? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316466 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: What IDEs are folks using?
Thanks, I knew if I made mentioning here someone would chime in quick enough :) On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Preferences Code Format Indent with n Tabs|Spaces. Set it to Tabs. mike -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: What IDEs are folks using? I am using CS4 primarily although have not messed with any of its new features. Now I am wondering about the live code. The only thing that annoys me and mainly because DW8 that I had before on here did not do it is if I am tabbed over writing code and go to a new line in DW8 if I hit backspace it went back one tab but in CS4 it just goes back one space. I assume that is just a setting issue but not been motivated enough to go digging through all of its settings to figure it out plus it does not happen when in script blocks so only annoying when writing tags. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316468 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt
Worthless to have persistent folding? While I never have used it, even though it does exist in DW which I do use, I could see how some people might like it after having it. If perhaps they are working on something that they cannot finish in one day and they do not leave their machine in stand by mode over night or over a weekend. I know I routinely work in files where I end up folding some large chunks of code so I can reference things in different sections, like a split window I suppose. But I always put my work laptop in stand by mode so never really cared if the folding stayed after closing a file since if I close it then I am done with whatever task I was trying to accomplish at that time. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: While it does offer manual folding, it doesn't maintain the folds when a file is closed...that's worthless... Andy Matthews wrote: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least to me... Charlie Griefer wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. But on a technical note... Is this IDE targeted to current Eclipse users, or is Adobe trying to convert programmers who are using Dreamweaver? It's an Eclipse plugin, so I'd guess the former. Altho I'm sure anyone would be welcome to use it :) ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Very good point, I personally do not see what the big hangup on some of these price tags are. If the tools truly make people more efficient then they pay for themselves rather quickly. I personally just in the past couple of weeks have spent somewhere around $2k on various tools and most certainly could have found free ones to do each of those jobs but I found the commercial ones to be much more efficient for me. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $250 is cheap for an commercial IDE. CFEclipse is great and I use it pretty much exclusively, but if a $250 offering can save you 1 minute per day in productivity, it's worth it after only a year at $50/hour. If your time is worth more or your license lasts longer (both quite likely), it only need save you a few handfuls of seconds to be worth it and that's easy to come by with optimized autocomplete alone. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the best IDE to be freely available for personal use since I do a lot of development outside a working-for-pay arrangement, but CFEclipse adequately fills that niche. A much larger stumbling block for Bolt will be the Eclipse integration, I think. Eclipse users don't want to have their Eclipse environment hosed by some plugin (cough...FlexBuilder...cough). I run duplicate Eclipse environments (one for Flex, one for everything else) for just this reason. If you just want a ColdFusion IDE, it doesn't matter, but if you use the Eclipse platform for CFML (and Java, Groovy, PHP - ick, database, JS, CSS, etc.) development it's a bigger deal. cheers, barneyb On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Wil Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From here. http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/index.jsp?top All I'm hoping for is a lower price than that when Bolt is released. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:58 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: Stupid question - where did $250 come from? (I'd be happy with $250) Mark On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for Bolt I had the same response to the price tag. Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am almost happy with... though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by JetBrains for a free edition)... Azadi Saryev Sabai-dee.com http://www.sabai-dee.com/ Kenton Gray wrote: With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been working on a CFML plugin. It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! Here is the download link: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 Here is the blog to watch for updates: http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop them a line. Kenton PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE around ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
I know when I have tried using those drivers in the past with pre-existing stored procedures that returned cursors that they did not function correctly but I do not recall the issue since that was 1-2 years ago. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Nitai @ SixSigns [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ok, I missed the out of the box part. Honestly, we run Stored Procedures in Oracle with the Oracle driver without problems. Sure sometimes you need to write a variable with SQL statements (seem strange) to make it work within a SP, but all in all it always worked. Just as a side note. On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:33 AM, Aaron Rouse wrote: I said out of the box and you do indeed need Enterprise if you want to do it out of the box or at least to run stored procedures with any real success. Been down the route of other avenues to access Oracle and each has some gotchas. -- Razuna On-Demand - Hosted Digital Asset Management Solution Razuna - Open Source Digital Asset Management with Web Content Management http://www.razuna.vom/ Razuna - Open Source Forum Solution http://www.kabunto.org/ Roozani - memorize everywhere http://www.roozani.com/ SixSigns - Enrich people's lives and web experience http://www.sixsigns.com http://blog.sixsigns.com Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/sixsigns ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315666 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
To be honest I do not know 100% how it is setup because as I said we are not allowed to get involved to that detail. It is my understanding it is the difference of using \\netapp\blah v. F:\ the latter being something they cannot setup due to needing an AD account that gives access to all directories on the NETAPP and the former they can do but I am not 100% sure it is down to the file share per project or if it is just \\netapp\ which still gives full access to all directories. Now the specifics of how they are setting those up and what accounts they have to use for one v. the other is knowledge not known to me. I was once told the actual reasons behind all of this but was told a year ago, that is when I found the way to do it if using Apache and told them well why not just do this. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:52 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 Nov 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: We cannot take advantage of J2EE here because we store all the files on a NETAPP and it is my understanding that JRun needs to have a drive letter or something to that effect to get to the files when running in that configuration. Security rules prevent us from making a file share that uses an account which kills that route, Bwuh ? How do you get files off the storage system without using a file share ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to synergistically foster transparent applications This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315667 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
I really do not remember the exact rule and reason, too much time has passed since I tackled that argument with them. I do remember finding plenty of evidence that actually supported their stance, which typically is not the case. So whatever the issue is/was would be a valid issue in regards to whatever their security rules are over there. I know it has something to do with how NETAPPs work and connect to that network but beyond that the details are extremely hazy in my head. At this point it does not matter anyway, corporate has long since decided that CF is not the avenue to continue down after having it as a standard for 8 or so years. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: That doesnt make sense When you use \\machinename\folder\filenamefile://machinename/folder/filenameyou will still need to be authenticated, are they saying that they prefer to use an account that is not in the AD? What is that all about? I would have thought a group in the AD sperate to normal accounts would work, but not knowing enough about AD I could be wrong. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest I do not know 100% how it is setup because as I said we are not allowed to get involved to that detail. It is my understanding it is the difference of using \\netapp\blah v. F:\ the latter being something they cannot setup due to needing an AD account that gives access to all directories on the NETAPP and the former they can do but I am not 100% sure it is down to the file share per project or if it is just \\netapp\ which still gives full access to all directories. Now the specifics of how they are setting those up and what accounts they have to use for one v. the other is knowledge not known to me. I was once told the actual reasons behind all of this but was told a year ago, that is when I found the way to do it if using Apache and told them well why not just do this. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315677 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
This is just speculation on my part but I think someone high up got pissed off when the audit of Adobe and Macromedia products on the network happened. That audit happened when the two companies became one, so been awhile. Or it could just be that the MS marketing folks do a better job because they certainly sold someone high up on the idea that Sharepoint can do everything. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 Nov 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: At this point it does not matter anyway, corporate has long since decided that CF is not the avenue to continue down after having it as a standard for 8 or so years. That's a real shame :-( OOI did you try engaging with Adobe (or a local reseller) to have them come down and give corporate a good talking at ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to evangelistically pursue synergistic next-generation clicks-and-mortar fine-grained eyeballs This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
That has been my experience with any IDE change. I still did not like CFEclipse after my 1-2 month forced onto myself trial period. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Kris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: When people ask me about changing over to CFEclipse, I say, You'll love it and never want to use [insert other IDE name here] again. But you'll hate it for at first -- probably about a week. I agree that it takes a commitment to using it -- I forced myself to not use another editor for a week. I'm so glad I did. I love CFEclipse. -KJ Personally, I too was daunted by Eclipse at first glance. I loaded it up, got the intro screen, and thought to myself: Okay what now? It was unfamiliar, and I didn't know how to use it at all, let alone productively or, god forbid, comfortably. It took me roughly a week to figure out how to use it productively (get CFEclipse installed, find out how to edit my files, etc), and quite a while after that to get to the point of being comfortable with it. It's price and it's platform independence were major driving factors for me, and kept me motivated to learn how to use it. If you don't have those or other motivators, I can see why some folks don't get past the point of the confusing interface. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315714 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
It is one of the things I do not like although admittedly it has gotten much better since the version Isaac would have been using during that time frame. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You really didn't like the search feature? It's one of the few things that I actually DO like about Eclipse. -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced When people ask me about changing over to CFEclipse, I say, You'll love it and never want to use [insert other IDE name here] again. But you'll hate it for at first -- probably about a week. I agree that it takes a commitment to using it -- I forced myself to not use another editor for a week. I'm so glad I did. I love CFEclipse. I used Eclipse for about 6 months at a job in Portland OR. At the end of 6 months, the search features were still making my life hell on an almost daily basis, and there still wasn't anything in Eclipse that was making my life any easier than Dreamweaver. And this is coming from someone who at one time made fairly similar comments about Dreamweaver. The first 2 or 3 times I tried Dreamweaver I didn't care for it. It wasn't until I think DW8 that I finally found it workable for me and today it's an improvement over Homesite. And DW is still pretty imperfect, but it's the least problematic tool I've found thus far. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315729 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
That is the search that I do not like and actually one thing I never understood is why that is not just an option within CTRL-F In DW on the Find/Replace screen you can search within: Selected Text Current Document Open Documents Folder Selected Files in a Site(Project) Entire Site(Project) Plus you have matching of case, ignoring of whitespace and use of regular expressions available. So it not is a lack of features when I compare the two in regards to their search functionality but more of how they work. Plus up until recent versions(not sure of time frame) but Eclipse did not do the return of files and placement in the code like it does do today but DW has been doing for years. That actually was a show stopper for me but obviously no longer is since Eclipse has improved on that. Although will admit searching across multiple sites in DW would be nice but that is because how only one of my applications is structured. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Wil Genovese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you what - once I FOUND the searching tools I started to like them I bet many people do not know about CTRL+h to do searches across these: Across multiple files Across multiple Projects Across your entire workspace Across one or more Working Sets Across multiple select files in the project view Plus it does RegEx and if you dare full search/replace across the same sets. Yes, Eclipse has a big learning curve, but once you learn it's really good. Is Eclipse for everyone? No. We have designers that do a little CF code and there is no way I'd try to make them switch to Eclipse. Myself as a strict programmer I found the switch to be painful and beneficial. Also, if you have not tried Eclipse/CFEclipse in the past year give it another try. The newer versions have improved greatly. Wil Genovese On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really didn't like the search feature? It's one of the few things that I actually DO like about Eclipse. -Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:46 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced When people ask me about changing over to CFEclipse, I say, You'll love it and never want to use [insert other IDE name here] again. But you'll hate it for at first -- probably about a week. I agree that it takes a commitment to using it -- I forced myself to not use another editor for a week. I'm so glad I did. I love CFEclipse. I used Eclipse for about 6 months at a job in Portland OR. At the end of 6 months, the search features were still making my life hell on an almost daily basis, and there still wasn't anything in Eclipse that was making my life any easier than Dreamweaver. And this is coming from someone who at one time made fairly similar comments about Dreamweaver. The first 2 or 3 times I tried Dreamweaver I didn't care for it. It wasn't until I think DW8 that I finally found it workable for me and today it's an improvement over Homesite. And DW is still pretty imperfect, but it's the least problematic tool I've found thus far. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Data Import
I am not a big user of Access but had to take a training course on Access 2007 earlier this year and I believe it(probably prior versions as well) has some tools built into it for doing this type of thing into another table. Might be something worth looking into because if it has it then it would just be some simple wizards more than likely. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:40 AM, David Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take a look at DataMgr by Steve Bryant. Helpful tool in migrating data from various db sources. Make sure you grab the 2.2 alpha version as its the last version that supports MSAccess. http://www.bryantwebconsulting.com/cfcs/ Otherwise: Load Candidates into query object. Load Cand_codings into another q object. loop through candidates or cand_codings records do matching logic for candidates to can_codings save the matching data you want into an array or structure end loop Finally loop through matching results and insert into search_criteria. Hi I have been given the task of importing some data from one database into another. The data has been imported i now need to code the individual records. I have three msaccess tables candidates, cand_codings and search_criteria In the candidates table is field called currentposition this holds the information i want to work with. The cand_codings table holds the position titles used in the new database. Search_criteria tables holds, codingid (link to cand_coding), candidateID (links to candidates). I some how need to loop through the candidate records, match the currentposition field to the cand_codings and insert into search_criteria the codingID candidate id. Not sure where to start at the moment, any ideas - thank you. jason ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315547 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
Of course the site is promoting many different products from Adobe. So if it were in CF then someone might complain about it not being in Flex and so on and so on. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use one of the many CF Wiki apps that are out there? It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I'm just saying that if you go to a site that is promoting a product using another product.. It just looks bad IMHO. Charlie Griefer wrote: I don't think it's about whatever works as much as it is about whatever is available. There was obviously a wiki already built with PHP that addressed the immediate business needs. What would the ROI be on delaying the launch of the labs site so that a wiki application with the exact same functionality could be built in CF? The labs site is aimed at developers. As developers, we're always fighting the battle of deadlines (among others). As developers, we should realize in seeing the .php extension that it was simply a matter of utilizing resources efficiently and not reinventing the wheel unnecessarily. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True.. But if I was a customer and I didn't see the technology being sold to me as being used, I'd suspect it wasn't that good to begin with. While I agree that using whatever works is the best way to go, appearances are everything. Dave Watts wrote: I think it's a shame that the makers of ColdFusion make use of php as their Wiki. I suspect Adobe created this well before they even acquired Macromedia. But even if they didn't, Adobe is a big company. Most truly big enterprises don't use a single product, they have departments using all sorts of things. There's a whole field devoted to trying to minimize that within enterprises: enterprise architecture. So I wouldn't read too much into that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315577 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
While sales might be getting hurt right now due to the cost of the product. The product must be selling well enough for them since they are clearly continuing to invest in it via making new versions. My only complaint is the need to run Enterprise for Oracle support out of the box when everything else about Professional is fine enough for some project needs. That is only a complaint of mine right now because just ran through the argument on two pre-existing projects and the need to upgrade their versions of CF to CF8 from CF6. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Robert Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything they should charge $500 for an IDE and give away ColdFusion for free That is so much better of a business model. The main problem selling CF web sites is the cost to deploy a site. Too much of the burden is going to the site owners or hosts. What they should do is give away a free CFSERVER runtime that only runs compiled code and sell the IDE/compiler to developers. The whole business model is backwards the way it is now, and it's definitely hurting sales. Developers are always willing to pay for an IDE/compiler. And that would also solve the whole issue the need to encrypt CFcode before deploying to an unfamiliar ISP's server. I love CF and would really like to see Adobe fix this business model. It would definitely be better for the whole CF community and would make CF a more competitive solution. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315607 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
I prefer to remain ignorant and just complain about the cost difference of the product I am telling people to buy. After all they do not care if it is Oracle, Santa Clause or Adobe causing it to be significantly more money. If that is the actual reason then seems a little silly since Oracle is already charging crazy amounts for the database product itself but hey if they can get away with it then more power to them. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Rouse wrote: My only complaint is the need to run Enterprise for Oracle support out of the box Then your complaint is probably with Oracle. It is my, possible very wrong, understanding that a big factor in the price difference between Standard and Enterprise is the license fee for the Oracle driver. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315618 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
Wouldn't the buginess be a part of Eclipse itself in regards to the source safe integration? On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Nick Giovanni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point regarding cfeclipse is that it works really, REALLY well CFeclipse has been buggy (for lack of a better term) for me. It's also a real pain to integrate with source safe. I really do like CFEclipse when it works. And if Adobe can offer the same or better, without the bugs and support it, then I'd be willing to pay for it. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Craig Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be me :p Persoanlly I don't care whether they charge me for the server or the IDE, or perhaps even both as long as it's only roughly the same amount in total. I'm in the rather unique position of having one server licence and need of only one IDE. My point regarding cfeclipse is that it works really, REALLY well. So why should we I pay for something which seems at first glance to be very similar (at least in my mind). It's going to have to have some awesome extra features to make me part with my hard earned cash, I ssupect many other cfeclipse users feel the same. Craig. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:50 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Robert Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anything they should charge $500 for an IDE and give away ColdFusion for free That is so much better of a business model. The main problem selling CF web sites is the cost to deploy a site. Too much of the burden is going to the site owners or hosts. What they should do is give away a free CFSERVER runtime that only runs compiled code and sell the IDE/compiler to developers. The whole business model is backwards the way it is now, and it's definitely hurting sales. Developers are always willing to pay for an IDE/compiler. And that would also solve the whole issue the need to encrypt CFcode before deploying to an unfamiliar ISP's server. I love CF and would really like to see Adobe fix this business model. It would definitely be better for the whole CF community and would make CF a more competitive solution. I'm always curious when people make such definitive statements... - it's definitely hurting sales Do people really think that a corporation as large as Adobe makes decisions in a vacuum? I'm not saying a big corporation is always right, but I'd tend to think that the people making the decisions have more information at their disposal and do take the information into consideration. - Developers are always willing to pay for an IDE/compiler Really? In the thread on the recently-announced CF IDE (the thread that spawned this one), one developer unequivocally stated, if it's more than $0, i'll stick with CFEclipse. As developers, we're passionate people. We make statements based more on emotion than fact. I believe there's less emotion in the board rooms where these decisions are made, and the decision-makers have a wealth of information at their disposal that we as outsiders are simply not aware of. It's easy for us to look at specific decisions as they affect us as developers and/or business owners and lose sight of the fact that there's a bigger picture out there. -- I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of success. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315629 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
In our particular case corporate pays or has been paying for the Oracle license/deal that covers the entire company's use and most of that is not for web applications. Then when someone wants to build a web based application it is up to them to front the bill for the application and whatever means it needs to use to connect to the company defined standard for databases. So currently the define standard is ColdFusion and Oracle for web apps although it is going to change any day(been hearing this for awhile) because Microsoft is offering SQL Server at next to nothing to them and for whatever reason they(corporate) wants to go away from ColdFusion. I forgot it was due to DataDirect though which I think is separate from Oracle so the cost makes more sense at least when looking at it that way. The people paying the bills though do not like seeing the drastic price difference between both versions of CF and in all honesty as far as they are concerned here if just one version was offered and cost what Enterprise costs then it would not be an issue. It is when they see that Pro price v. Enterprise, then and only then do they want to know why can't that cheaper one be used and then they start looking into alternatives(other languages, never alternative CF servers). On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Matthew Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: They can get away with it because their (Oracle) thin client driver sucks ;). The DataDirect version of the driver is far superior. It could be argued, however, that a company that can put the funds out for an Enterprise SQL server, it should be able to front funds for an Enterprise web application server. I'm not saying that's my opinion, merely what seems to be sentiment. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315631 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
I said out of the box and you do indeed need Enterprise if you want to do it out of the box or at least to run stored procedures with any real success. Been down the route of other avenues to access Oracle and each has some gotchas. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Nitai @ SixSigns [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You dont need the Enterprise product to run Oracle on it. On Nov 19, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Aaron Rouse wrote: While sales might be getting hurt right now due to the cost of the product. The product must be selling well enough for them since they are clearly continuing to invest in it via making new versions. My only complaint is the need to run Enterprise for Oracle support out of the box when everything else about Professional is fine enough for some project needs. That is only a complaint of mine right now because just ran through the argument on two pre-existing projects and the need to upgrade their versions of CF to CF8 from CF6. -- Razuna On-Demand - Hosted Digital Asset Management Solution Razuna - Open Source Digital Asset Management with Web Content Management http://www.razuna.vom/ Razuna - Open Source Forum Solution http://www.kabunto.org/ Roozani - memorize everywhere http://www.roozani.com/ SixSigns - Enrich people's lives and web experience http://www.sixsigns.com http://blog.sixsigns.com Follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/sixsigns ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315646 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
We cannot take advantage of J2EE here because we store all the files on a NETAPP and it is my understanding that JRun needs to have a drive letter or something to that effect to get to the files when running in that configuration. Security rules prevent us from making a file share that uses an account which kills that route, supposeably at least pretty sure I saw a way to do it if running Apache but we are running IIS and not choice there for us. None of us in our group get access to that level of the servers though unless our projects go onto a dedicated server which means the project buys its own CF license as well as the machine itself and so on. If we could take advantage of J2EE here it would mean a HUGE cost savings considering just how many enterprise licenses are owned but at this point in time even if a solution were presented it would mean nothing because corporate has made the decision to go Microsoft across the board. On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's a DataDirect driver for Oracle, not an Oracle driver. So if there's a huge price difference, it's DataDirect with whom the issue lies. Having said that, the commercial DataDirect driver costs more than all of CF Enterprise, so I think we're getting a good deal. I also like being able to run (for example) 10 VMs on one server for the cost of one license, deploying to J2EE, distributing a compiled war, the server monitor and all the other features we get from Enterprise. As Enterprise software goes, it's a bargain (you should see what we pay for Oracle). mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ 2008/11/20 Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aaron Rouse wrote: My only complaint is the need to run Enterprise for Oracle support out of the box Then your complaint is probably with Oracle. It is my, possible very wrong, understanding that a big factor in the price difference between Standard and Enterprise is the license fee for the Oracle driver. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315647 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: spot CF in Adobe's Flash Platfrm
But again, haven't they always not mentioned CF much on their Flash and Flex product sites? On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 17 Nov 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: Haven't they always not mentioned CF much on their Flash and Flex product sites? They mention BlazeDS (an all-Java product)... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to globally unleash user-centric mission-critical designs This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315421 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: spot CF in Adobe's Flash Platfrm
That is not the product page for Flex, this is: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/?promoid=BPDEQ Which I am surprised to see CF under the related products. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 Nov 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: But again, haven't they always not mentioned CF much on their Flash and Flex product sites? It's still fun to play this game though :-) FYI http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/ has ColdFusion linked right from the side bar. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to continually market sticky e-commerce This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315424 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
Don't forget the one for CF9 as well. http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Centaur On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben just announced it. Sign up for access to the beta (or whatever) at http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Bolt ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315444 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
I am in the same boat as you, do not find it comfortable. Do you think the comfort issue is because of Eclipse itself though? I am wondering just how good can they get it when building on that. Although I suppose Flex Builder is a good example of how good they can get things. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think most people are using cfeclipse. It's not a very comfortable environment for a lot of people, myself included. I'd love to see statistics, but I'm betting less than a third of the community is on it. Free is nice, but comfort is better. If it costs more than $0 I'll carry on using cfeclipse, as will most people I suspect. I wonder just how much the commercial release is going to cost? I can't see spending more than $50 for a new IDE. Matthew Williams Geodesic GraFX ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315467 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
I once heard the cf reporter tool was going to cost money until the community got all up in arms about it, no idea if that is true since would have had to happen in some sort of beta because pretty sure it was always free. So if any truth is behind that then never do know, maybe if enough people cry for something for nothing then it would be free. I honestly do not see why it would be free and could easily see it costing a couple hundred dollars at the minimum. I am just wondering how many features this is going to have that can be taken advantage of by prior versions(within the MX series) of CF. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets be blunt - Bolt is a commercial product and it will have a price tag. If it has features you want and you think its worth it then you'll buy it. If not, then not. No need to debate, no need to argue. Bottom line. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Quick response needed...
I know plenty of senior people making around that, some more and some less. So do not see that out of the range of possibility, now if you lack a college degree it becomes a good bit harder since the big companies that pay that much for employees do want those pieces of paper. The vacation though, I have had horrible luck in finding places that starting off would over beyond 3 weeks and most want to do 2 weeks. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three questions: 1. What is the average salary 'range' for CF developers right now in the US ? I have my own idea, but I'd like to know others. I'm talking a Senior developer (10+ years in CF). Regardless of location, there should be a 'range'. 2. Is $105,000 per year feasible for a Senior CF Developer for a job in America with 5 weeks paid vacation and 10 paid holidays? 3. Anyone know any recruiters who specialize in placing ColdFusion Developers? Thanks! Dave P.S. I apologize for those who get this on cf-community also, but I need a wide response. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4129 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: spot CF in Adobe's Flash Platfrm
Haven't they always not mentioned CF much on their Flash and Flex product sites? On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out Adobe's new site: http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/ CF gets a mention, at least, on http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/features/include/home/modal_01.png(click the icons under the main page bar's anim.). Can't see it anywhere else however, even under http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/flashplatforminyourfield/?tabVertical=publicApps So, CF isn't for 'enterprise' or 'the internet', you might be forced to conclude ? I wonder if any CF news will come out of MAX ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to heterogeneously seize customized 24/365 advanced innovative IPOs This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315365 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF to .Net - recommended training?
I would not mess with VB and found a lot of people share that preference. I have been through a couple of the .NET training courses and did not leave all that impressed with the course. Felt like had I spent the same amount of time with a book or two that I would have ultimately been much better off. There might be some good courses out there that someone else could chime in on. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My company is switching to .Net. Any specific recomendations about what I should be looking for to get proper training? C Sharp? Visual Basic? Any directions would be appreciated. Thanks D ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315023 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF to .Net - recommended training?
I learned C# and Visual Studio at the same time, kind of have to have one to do the other. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. So it sounds like learning C# is a good place to get started. Thanks all. Would anyone recommend a good path or order for tackling it all? Is learning C# the best idea? Should I get more familiar with Visual Dev product first? Thanks I've played with both. VB is far more bloated than C#, but VB is also used for developing Windows applications. So is C#. Anything you can do with one .NET language, you can do with another. If you are going to be developing only for web, then C# is far more compact and clean. If you are also going to be developing Windows applications, VB is more useful there. VB is only more useful there if you have experience writing VB desktop or console applications. If you have no prior experience with C# or VB, I would strongly recommend that you learn C#, since it's the .NET reference language and it's very similar to Java. VB isn't really that similar to anything commonly used elsewhere. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315047 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF to .Net - recommended training?
I think it would be career suicide to not learn Visual Studio if embarking down the path of being a .NET developer. I am going to make a guess here but I do not think doing .NET development is what you do for a primary source of income to put food on the table. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I learned C# and Visual Studio at the same time, kind of have to have one to do the other. No, you can write C# with whatever you like. I like the (free) SharpDevelop.NET IDE, myself. But if you plan to use Visual Studio, you can certainly learn them simultaneously. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF to .Net - recommended training?
Yeap and every place I have talked to and every person I know who does it continuly runs into MS shops that want and expect their programmers to be using the MS tools. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be career suicide to not learn Visual Studio if embarking down the path of being a .NET developer. I am going to make a guess here but I do not think doing .NET development is what you do for a primary source of income to put food on the table. There are plenty of C# developers who don't use VS, and plenty of full-time ASP.NET developers, believe it or not. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315070 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: REReplace to avoid HTML elements
Thanks, I will try that out locally and make a note to apply it the next time I am in there since I already initiated the push process to get the changes into place. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Peter Boughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we ultimately came up with this: (?![/]#Variables.Word#)(\W)(#Variables.Word#)(\W) The only downside that we found is if the word is at the very end or beginning of the paragraph. That's the \W bits you're using - they're wrong; you want a zero-width word boundary, not a non-word character. Use \b(#Variables.Word#)\b and you wont need to do the workaround. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314937 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: REReplace to avoid HTML elements
The \b actually did not work, it put the link within the first span element but maybe was how I tested it. I tried: (?![/]sub)(\b)(sub)(\b) as well as (?![/]sub)\b(sub)\b On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:49 AM, s. isaac dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the \W bits you're using - they're wrong; you want a zero-width word boundary, not a non-word character. Use \b(#Variables.Word#)\b and you wont need to do the workaround. Thanks Peter... I'd never used word boundaries... so of course, they don't occur to me when I go to write a regex. :) I'll have to remember that in the future. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 781.769.0723 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314947 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
REReplace to avoid HTML elements
I have been using REReplace to find key words or group of words within paragraphs and if found to replace those with an HREF. All has been working fine and well until recently when one of those key words became sub and some paragraphs make use of the HTML element SUB. So what I am curious on is how can I adjust the CFSET below to ignore a word if that word is found within and or within / and . cfset word = sub / cfset Output = REReplaceNoCase(Output, (\W)(#Variables.Word#)(\W), \1a href=Display.cfm?Term=#urlencodedformat(Variables.Word)#\2/a\3, one) / -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314913 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: REReplace to avoid HTML elements
Thanks Peter, I got to talking to Isaac Dealey this evening about this since he had helped out a while back on this particular project. He mentioned what I need is a lookahead in the regex. After a few tries this is what we ultimately came up with this: (?![/]#Variables.Word#)(\W)(#Variables.Word#)(\W) The only downside that we found is if the word is at the very end or beginning of the paragraph. So I will prepend and append a period to the paragraph then run the regex and then pull out the periods. Wish I had clued into that because maybe one of my attempts earlier today would have worked had my test data not had the word at the very end of the paragraph with no period after it. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Peter Boughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using REReplace to find key words or group of words within paragraphs and if found to replace those with an HREF. The following code works. (I haven't yet decided whether it's entirely the best way though...) cfset Content = ListToArray(Content,'')/ cfloop index=i from=1 to=#ArrayLen(Content)# cfif ListLen(Content[i],'') GT 1 cfset Segment = ListFirst(Content[i],'')/ cfset word = sub/ cfset Segment = linkifyText( Segment , Word , 'Display.cfm?Term='UrlEncodedFormat(Word) ) / cfset Content[i] = Segment '' ListRest(Content[i],'')/ /cfif /cfloop cfset Content = ArrayToList(Content,'')/ cffunction name=linkifyText returntype=String output=false cfargument name=Text type=String/ cfargument name=Word type=String/ cfargument name=Target type=String/ cfreturn rereplace(Arguments.Text,'\b#Arguments.Word#\b','a href=#Arguments.Target#\0/a','all')/ /cffunction ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314925 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF Job Market
I am not looking for work and have not been in a long time but I still continue to get contacted by places looking to hire people with my skill set. To me it does not seem like the market has lesson any and perhaps has even increased. I am sure that greatly depends on where someone is located amongst other things. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, My job will be ending sometime next year due to a merger. I'm a Senior level CF Developer with 10+ years experience. I am wondering what the job market is looking like out there for us senior type CF developers with the economy the way it is here in the US. What I'm concerned about most that I see is more job descriptions asking for mid-level and junior developers, and lower salaries for those as well. I'm wondering if I might have trouble finding a job when the time comes because my salary demands would be too high and/or the employer would rather pay someone a lower salary for less experience, thinking they are getting the same efficiency. Please share whatever your thoughts are on this topic. I think this thread will be useful for anyone visiting it in the next 12-18 months, so let's really try to provide some good 'intel', if you will on the 'near future' CF market. Thanks! Dave Phillips ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4111 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: CF Job Market
I have been working with it since it basically came out in the 90s. I do some OO and some procedural, it really depends on who I am doing work for. For example some of the places I do work for have their own inhouse frameworks and methodologies which are not OO but that is what you use when you do work for them. Then at the same time I might be doing an all OO based application for some other client because either they requested it or they did not specify and I just wanted to do it that way. When I look at people with 10+ years of experience I think beyond what their CF skills are, I think of where their SQL skills should be amongst other things like JS and so on but SQL probably is the bigger one for me. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:03 PM, CF Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I hope neither of you are making that a stereotype. I have 10 years as a CF developer, and EVERYTHING I do is OO, and I have a fundamental understanding of it, and use the usual OO frameworks like Mach-ii, ColdSpring, and Transfer (although I have developed OO apps without a front controller, too), and even built my own (closed, sorry) framework to solve specialized problems that the standard frameworks didn't. I have architected high-traffic, high-volume and high-revenue enterprise applications. Would you see 10 years on my resume and throw it out? I hope not. I didn't post this looking for work, as I have a fulltime job (parttime freelance OK). I just wanted to respond to this thread. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
Re: Multiple instances of CF_TwoSelectsRelated on the same page
Doesn't the tag just go off the form field names within the page? I would think you could use multiple instances out of the box in the same page, what type of error is it throwing? On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Debi Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever tried this? I found a link online to someone who had rewritten the tag to accommodate that, but the link was dead. Any ideas? I can't seem to figure it out! Thanks, Debi ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314698 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF and SharePoint
I'd write a web service on the SharePoint side for CF to interact with although I agree just move it to SharePoint. Victor, are all the file types that they want to search supported by SharePoint? I saw a complaint here at work about SharePoint not searching across some non-MS file formats not sure if there is any truth behind that or not but might be something to look into. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Mike Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know the extent to which you are using ColdFusion, although I would question why use CF to provide a search interface to SharePoint when you could just use the SharePoint search features. I would recommend getting rid of CF and shifting this functionality entirely over to SharePoint if that is an option. SharePoint is very good at what it does. For a more direct answer to your question I think you will have to write custom code and I don't think too many people would have experience with doing what you are trying to do. Maybe do a form post with CFHTTP and parse the results. If all the documents to search are in SharePoint and your CF Web site does more than just search these documents, then the quickest solution would be to display a URL to the new SharePoint system on the CF search page. -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Victor Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, OK, maybe you are right so let me rephrase it. They have a bunch a documents that are index by Verity and then they perform searches through the docs using a CF app. By deploying SharePoint they want to have all the docs being index by SharePoint and using the same CF app (with the necessary changes) to search the SharePoint document collection. So I guess what I'm looking for is something like cfsearch (an API that I can invoke from a CF app) that can be used to search a SharePoint document collection. Thanks Victor On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Mike Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Victor, By Verity do you mean the search engine technology that comes bundled with ColdFusion? If that is what you mean then I think your question is confusing because SharePoint has an entirely different purpose so it doesn't make sense to convert from one technology to the other. Are you looking for a way to search for documents located in a SharePoint system and link to the documents from a ColdFusion Web application? -Mike Chabot ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314603 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc?
I do you feel it would defeat the point? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Exactly, which kinda defeats the point I feel. I've got a few ways that I might try but for now I'm back to writing SPs. If anyone's interested, I have the full DAO code here: http://adrianlynch.co.uk/post.cfm?postID=21 Adrian Building a database of ColdFusion errors at http://cferror.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 18:28 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? exec() or sp_executesql You would need to pass in the arguments as a list to the procedure and then do the looping and building of a dynamic query with SQL. Then execute what you have created. Good luck. Dynamic SQL isn't nearly as easy in SQL than CF. Also, you will have to take additional steps to paramaterize it. (requires sp_executesql) FYI: My advice assumes MS SQL. ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, October 30, 2008 1:06 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com An open question then... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314630 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc?
erf ... I meant Why do you feel it would defeat the point? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do you feel it would defeat the point? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Exactly, which kinda defeats the point I feel. I've got a few ways that I might try but for now I'm back to writing SPs. If anyone's interested, I have the full DAO code here: http://adrianlynch.co.uk/post.cfm?postID=21 Adrian Building a database of ColdFusion errors at http://cferror.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 18:28 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? exec() or sp_executesql You would need to pass in the arguments as a list to the procedure and then do the looping and building of a dynamic query with SQL. Then execute what you have created. Good luck. Dynamic SQL isn't nearly as easy in SQL than CF. Also, you will have to take additional steps to paramaterize it. (requires sp_executesql) FYI: My advice assumes MS SQL. ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, October 30, 2008 1:06 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com An open question then... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314631 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc?
Ok, makes sense. We use a CFC here that I built a long time ago that builds insert/update queries based upon the database's meta data. It puts in the cfqueryparams and does data validation prior to that. While the cfqueryparams were put in for those very reasons, the seen benefit by anyone using it is the fact they no longer have to write those queries. They just pass in typically the form structure, an action flag and the table name then it does the rest. I could see them still liking an SP that did it then the wrapper for the SP would need all the appropriate checks on the data coming in to hopefully avoid the possibility of a SQL injection attack. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: EXEC()ing a string won't produde the same execution plan as the base SQL (--- a guess) and you lose cfqueryparam and cfprocparam's biggest benefit, protecting against injection. Adrian -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse Sent: 30 October 2008 19:52 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? I do you feel it would defeat the point? On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Exactly, which kinda defeats the point I feel. I've got a few ways that I might try but for now I'm back to writing SPs. If anyone's interested, I have the full DAO code here: http://adrianlynch.co.uk/post.cfm?postID=21 Adrian Building a database of ColdFusion errors at http://cferror.org/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2008 18:28 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? exec() or sp_executesql You would need to pass in the arguments as a list to the procedure and then do the looping and building of a dynamic query with SQL. Then execute what you have created. Good luck. Dynamic SQL isn't nearly as easy in SQL than CF. Also, you will have to take additional steps to paramaterize it. (requires sp_executesql) FYI: My advice assumes MS SQL. ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: cfqueryparam vs cfstoredproc? From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, October 30, 2008 1:06 pm To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com An open question then... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314633 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF Validation using CFC?
I do something similar to this in one of my projects. I have the validation rules more or less in my beans then I have a validator CFC that will check a bean to validate things. If validation passes it proceeds to the insert/update and if it fails it returns the reasons so they can be displayed to the user for corrective purposes. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ar using the techniques outlined in my cfc tutorials, Rick, i can easily give you the additional part - validation .. I was getting around to writing part 3 eventually mabye i'll just run it forward . IN the methods i use, each bean contains its own validation methods and you run a validation procedure just before the Save. IF the bean validates teh save proceeds, if it doesnt, error messages are posted either to the form or in an email to the person concerned with that app. Cheers Mike Kear On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all... I'm slowly but surely integrating CFC's into my coding. But now I'm wondering how best to modify my usual CF validation of form values with a CFC in the mix. I typically design a page with a form, have it submit back to itself, run validation on the form variables, output appropriate error messages if needed, and if everything validates, I run the query, let's say an insert query, on the same page as the form, then using cflocation to direct to a success page. But, using the CFC requires that the form's action page be the cfc itself, with the method in the URL, e.g., properties.cfc?method=insert Will I end up having to use session variables to make this work so I can submit the form back to the page it's on, validate and if all validates, then change the form variables to session variables and using cflocation to then go to the cfc? Can that even be done?... cflocation url=properties.cfc?method=insert ??? Thanks for any feedback. Rick ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314131 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
