Re: Future Proofing/Backward compatibility

2012-12-11 Thread Dave Merrill

+1 for Cameron's approach. I use that construct in lots of places
internally to create value objects with default values for keys that
weren't passed.

Dave Merrill


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Cameron Childress camer...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Chris Velevitch
 chris.velevi...@gmail.comwrote:

  How would you design that function to handle the fact that some
  clients are NOT passing the new field and there's no need to change
  the clients as it's optional?


 I typically handle this in a CFC function using defaults for non-required
 arguments. IE:

 cffunction name=myFunction
   cfargument name=varone required=true /
   cfargument name=clientspecificvar default= /

 In your specific case, I'd probably abstract out the stored proc call into
 it's own function with it's own named arguments.

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Re: (ot) CF Builder SVN

2012-11-27 Thread Dave Merrill

+1 for visualsvn server if you'e hosting locally. Really straightforward.

Dave Merrill


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Matthew a.matthe...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Out if interest, what OS do you develop on? If it's on windows OS have
 considered visualsvn server? http://www.visualsvn.com/server

 Matt.

 On 7 Nov 2012, at 18:46, Michael Reick mich...@widgethq.com wrote:

 
  I've decided to finally make the plunge and start using CF Builder
 (latest version, I think. 2 update 1)  For some inane reason I've also
 decided to start using Subversion for source/versioning control at the same
 time.
 
  I think I've got the SVN server running correctly, TortoiseSVN will let
 me browse, I think the server. And I used Wil's article on how to get
 CFBuilder to talk to the SVN server.
 
  In Builder, I've got at least one existing project (entire codebase of a
 large site) that I want to add to svn.  Everything I try to go to Team -
 Share Project, it will let me select the SVN server, give me a bunch of
 options, (Doesn't seem to matter which I choose) and at some point it will
 fail, giving me a cryptic Share project has failed. svn: url
 'svn://serveraddress/trunk/Development' doesn't exist. I refresh
 TortoiseSVN and I see those directories/locations.  I try again, and it
 fails with the same error message.  I try deleting everything in
 TortoiseSVN and try from scratch with the same results.
 
  I'm still not totally convinced that I want to use SVN, and I haven't
 even gotten to the point of trying to check/in/commit code. So far, it's
 been less than encouraging, especially since I'm still the only developer
 on this code.
 
  Any helpful hints? Suggestions? Comments?
 
  Thanks!
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Re: Best IDE for cfscript

2012-05-12 Thread Dave Merrill

I'm with Matt, IDEA is great. In many ways, big and small, it increases my
productivity and code quality, and just improve the experience of
coding all around. It's not without its warts, but it's improving all the
time. I'd never go back.

Dave Merrill


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote:


 Since it hasn't been mentioned yet, I would also recommend giving Intellij
 IDEA a shot, *especially* if you work in other languages, too. It was quite
 a change for me, having used CFE/CFB for many years, but I doubt I could
 switch back, now.

 http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/


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Re: Fullasagoog not updating?

2011-03-30 Thread Dave Merrill

Thaks Ray, wasn't aware of this somehow. (Though I suppose I should
have guessed... what *haven't* you built???)

Looks good, added to the reader on my droid. That is, after I took 5
minutes to figure out how to type an = sign on the droid virtual
keyboard; apparently I never had to do that on there before.

Does anyone know if fullasagoog is officially deprecated?

Dave

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can always use ColdFusionBloggers.org. ;) (And seriously - if you
 don't use it now because it's missing something, let me know.)

 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Dave Merrill enigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not sure if this is a live-under-a-rock-and-missed-the-news thing, but
 the latest post I see on fullasagoog is 3 weeks old. Is its collection
 mechanism not working? Please don't say it's going away, it's
 wonderful.

 Or maybe nobody it watches is posting anything? That can't be right, right?

 Thanks,
 Dave



 

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Fullasagoog not updating?

2011-03-29 Thread Dave Merrill

Not sure if this is a live-under-a-rock-and-missed-the-news thing, but
the latest post I see on fullasagoog is 3 weeks old. Is its collection
mechanism not working? Please don't say it's going away, it's
wonderful.

Or maybe nobody it watches is posting anything? That can't be right, right?

Thanks,
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Re: REGEX hell

2010-11-25 Thread Dave Merrill

Be a little careful, Regex Coach works with perl regex syntax; cf
needs java syntax usually, with some differences.

I can't recommend Regex Buddy highly enough. It's not free, but it's
really quite excellent, supports a variety of different flavors.

Dave


On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote:

 Regex that is useful but unfortunately, my skills are pretty weak in that
 area.

 I use an application named The Regex Coach' to build my code.  It has a
 place to put the string you are trying to match and another place to put
 your regex code.  As you modify the regex code, it highlights how much of
 the string matches.

 The program is free with the option of donating via paypal to the creator if
 you like it.



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Re: Choosing between ColdFusion Builder and IntelliJ

2010-11-18 Thread Dave Merrill

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Dave Burns cft...@burnsorama.com wrote:

 I'm considering moving on from Dreamweaver and finally using a better IDE for 
 CF work. I know of CFBuilder and have downloaded the trial to eval. I used 
 IntelliJ for some Java projects 2 years ago and it was outstanding.

FWIW, I'm a relatively recent IDEA (IntelliJ) convert, and I love it.
They have a 30 day trial too; you might as well give it a shot.

It's just really smart, in a million productivity enhancing and code
quality inducing ways. Really extensive customizable keyboard
shortcuts, variable and function completion, tons of languages, great
snippet support, works with projects and also freeform File  Open or
dbl-click in explorer, file structure view that bogs down quite a bit
less than CFB (at least the version I tried when it was released),
shortcut to go to the definition of the function under the cursor,
even in an unrelated file up the dir tree over and down, indexes
everything for fast searching, nice favorites functionality, syntax
error highlighting, camelcase-aware spellchecker (a bit buggy but
great anyway), just a lot of things that make using it a pleasure.

It's not all lollipops and rainbows though. While the program itself
is really outstanding, the CFML plugin is somewhat immature. To begin
with, you may find it a bit awkward starting your first project,
because it doesn't make it clear how you do that for CFML, or have
CFML-oriented tools for it (just choose java for now). It also doesn't
fully understand CFML variable and function visibility, so for
instance things declared in a cfinclude are flagged as unresolved
references and completion doesn't work on them. During my 30 day
trial, they fixed 15 bugs I reported (!!!), plus others, but the pace
of development seems uneven, and slow these days. A number of pretty
obvious flaws and enhancements have been filed by various folks, with
not a lot of movement on them lately. Also, I'm on windows, but I've
heard several times that on a mac, out of the box it's u-g-l-y; if
that's you, go for the GTK+ theme immediately, before you hate it.

The really big downside is no debugger. Both the FusionDebug and
FusionReactor teams have said their products were designed for
multiple host environments, and expressed eagerness to collaborate
with IntelliJ, but so far nothing's come of that, beyond a statement
that it's under discussion. I personally think that the investment
required to make that happen would make IDEA so much more visible and
attractive in the marketplace that it would pay for itself many times
over, and have said so, but so far all I can say is I hope it happens,
but we'll see.

I think to some extent Sean is right that the plugin doesn't get the
resources it could use, and their reluctance to pony up for a debugger
is a symptom. Far as I know, there's one dev working on it, and she's
great, but also have other commitments.

So it appears that I wrote more about downsides than its awesomeness,
but that's totally not how I actually feel. I'm happier with IDEA than
I've ever been with a development environment. If it never got any
better than it is now, I'd still be using it. Try it, I think you'll
like it. You probably know this, but the CFML plugin works only with
the paid version not the free Community edition. There's a google
group here if you have questions:
http://groups.google.com/group/cfml-plugin-for-intellij-idea

Dave

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Re: (ot) AWS / EC2 and SpamLists

2010-11-18 Thread Dave Merrill

Check out http://postmarkapp.com. Depending on the volume of mail you
need to send, it's either pretty cheap, or worth it for their tracking
tools.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Brook Davies cft...@logiforms.com wrote:

 This a bit OT. I just wanted to share what I'd found, in case anyone else is
 considering moving to the cloud. Its certainly attractive, and being able to
 spin up a new server from an image configured with webserver, CF, OS and
 your website files in under 5 minutes is pretty cool.



 Just keep one thing in mind. Sending email from the cloud (at least from
 Amazons) is problematic at best. The IP's (Elastic IP's), that we were
 assigned we're already in the SpamHaus database and other RBLs. And we NSI
 wouldn't let us set up a cname record with those IPs.



 There *are* procedures to get your IP's removed/whitelisted but I don't
 think you can count on this since there are so many blacklists and your
 sharing an IP range, so your neighbour could get you in trouble again in the
 future.



 For me, I can't risk emails not getting delivered (new user account
 registrations, password reminders, notifications, campaigns - all of em), so
 the solution is to maintain an SMTP server at a co-lo or dedicated server
 location that you can trust to do your mail sending. Or use an outsourced
 email (smtpauth.com,jangosmtp.com) service. You can also set up a VPC with
 your existing hardware from  the cloud and 'talk' to it like it was on your
 local network.



 Anyhow, I just wanted to put this out there. I was stoked to move to the
 cloud, and this threw a bit of a wrench in the idea, since having to
 maintain a server somewhere for sending email is kinda of a pain in the
 butt.




 

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Re: Should a getMemento method return the results of getters if they exist?

2010-11-17 Thread Dave Merrill

With all due respect to all you far more OO-seasoned gentlemen than I,
this isn't the response I expected. Here's what I was thinking:

- On a gut level, though I appreciate the value of an object that
hides its internals completely and provides no access to them other
than through its methods, it still felt strange to me that instance
values, internal state, constants, etc, and methods were all dumped
into the variables scope, and indistinguishable from them, except by
diving through the properties array of the whole extends tree. Without
doing that, even the object itself can't know what the data fields
are, even internally, like for instance to iterate over them and ask
each one if it's valid. To some extent, getMemento is related to, and
my reaction to the need for, this kind of sometimes-necessary
introspection.

- If you google coldfusion getMemento, you'll find multiple
implementations. Perhaps these folks are all wrong-headed, but that
reinforced my sense that this was a useful tool.

- My first actual use case is to implement isDirty(). There are many
ways to go about this, and I'm curious what your best practice is.
  What I was thinking was to populate the bean, then call
setNotDirty(), which would call getMemento and save the result in an
internal field. When isDirty() was called, you'd iterate over the
fields in the object, comparing them to the saved values. This doesn't
break encapsulation, or put raw un-object data out there for the whole
world to see; it's internal.
  In this case, the answer to my actual question is that if you're
going to compare the raw data rather the results of getters,
getMemento should return the raw data; that's my initial inclination,
without having built it. If you're going to compare getter results,
getMemento needs to return them too.

- The second use case I was thinking of is serialization, where the
answer to my question seems to depend on where the data's going. If it
ends up on another server in an object just like this one, you'd
probably want getMemento to return the raw data, so it didn't run
through getter processing both before serialization and when getters
were called on the remote object. If it's headed for HTML rendering
through a js templating engine, unless you want to duplicate the
getter logic there, you probably want the getter values, with any
formatting and other logic they have. Obviously, getMemento() isn't
the same as serialize(), but it's arguable that serialize could call
it in the generic default case.

Maybe I'm just being OO-green to ask this question, but that's roughly
what was on my mind.


@Mike, I don't understand why you say you'd have to call getters to
get anything other than the default values. The value of
variables.myField will have changed if the object's setters were
called with data that's different from the defaults; it's not
necessary to call a getter to see that change. The difference is that
getters may have their own logic, to format the raw data, combine it
with other fields, etc, so the value in the variables scope may not be
the same as what the getter returns.

Dave

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Re: Homesite on Windows 7

2010-11-16 Thread Dave Merrill

IntelliJ IDEA with the CFML plugin, which I love, does create projects
(and makes them very useful, as a search scope for instance), but it
also lets you open any file, including as a right-click or default
action for selected file types. If you *never* work on projects, I
think you might still want to create an empty one as a base, then open
whatever you want. It's got warts, and no RDS (has FTP though), but
I've never been happier.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:

 cfbuilder does allow you to work with files directly and not create projects
 btw.

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Should a getMemento method return the results of getters if they exist?

2010-11-14 Thread Dave Merrill

In the cfproperty-oriented world, where properties get dumped into the
variables scope along with your methods and anything else there, many
folks including me have written getMemento methods to return a struct
with the values of the object's declared properties, only.

Do you suppose methods like this should use the values returned by
getters where they exist? Or just the raw internal data?

If you're populating another instance of the object from this result,
I suppose it would depend on whether that object had similar getters,
and maybe setters too; you wouldn't want to get data already processed
by a getter, then process it again in its new home. OTOH, if the
receiving object is dumb, you might want the
formatted/defaulted/logi-processed version that a getter would return.
So maybe it's a context-specific thing.

My impression is that the memento itself is a dumb value object only,
no getters or setters, so it seems like getters should be used when
you get the data out of a smarter object that has them. Or should
there be a flag to enable getters? If so, what's its default?

Any thoughts?

Dave

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Re: Homesite Comment Command

2010-11-14 Thread Dave Merrill

Haven't followed this whole thread, not sure what you're doing, but
the CFML comment sequence should never print through to the output at
all, ***when interpreted by a CFML engine***. If you're reading the
file somehow, then it's not being handled as CFML, and you'll have to
deal wiht it according to your circumstances. But as CFML, the
validator hsould never see it, because it doesn't render on the page.
It's a comment, not HTML.

Dave

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Terry Troxel terry.tro...@gmail.com wrote:

 These are the errors I get with XHTML Transitional
 Line 10, Column 27: invalid comment declaration: found name character
 outside comment but inside comment declaration
 !--- this is a comment ---
  Line 10, Column 1: comment declaration started here
 !--- this is a comment ---

 Terry

 -Original Message-
 From: Azadi Saryev [mailto:azadi.sar...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 4:22 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Homesite Comment Command


 iirc, the 3-dash cf comment does not trip html validation. the 3rd dash
 is considered the first character of comment text.
 i do not ever remember having trouble with cf comments in W3C validator.

 Azadi

 On 15/11/2010 07:54 , Terry Troxel wrote:
 Russ thanks for answering.
 I guess I wasn't specific enough.
 Is there a keyboard shortcut command to do the html comment in Homesite?
 I use Coldfusion in my Site Admin for my clients to design their pages and
 then
 When they update it writes all the pages to plain html for SEO as well as
 speed.
 If there is a command it would save me a bunch of time programming instead
 of
 Deleting the extra dashes by hand.

 Terry

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:36 PM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: RE: Homesite Comment Command


 Terry,

 !--- This is a ColdFusion Comment ---
 !-- This is a HTML comment --

 If you put an HTML comment around CFML it will do nothing and the code
 will
 still execute.
 CFML comments do not appear in the source code so any HTML validation will
 not see it, if you are running the validation on the CFML source then just
 ignore the comments.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 14 November 2010 22:21
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Homesite Comment Command


 I don't know if this is OT or not.
 I Homesite 5+ in CFML Basic the!--- comment command gives you this:!---
 ---
 Where can I change that to output:!--  --  as W3C doesn't validate with
 the 3 dashes?

 Terry










 

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Re: CF (8.0.0) performance vs PHP (5)

2010-11-09 Thread Dave Merrill

It may well depend on the size and number of the strings, since the
main inefficiencies can be piling up of immutable strings and
subsequent GC. And like they say, there's lies, damn lies, and
statistics...

d

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, cfsavecontent appears to use a java buffer internally, and runs
just about as fast. Pick whichever method gives you code you like
better with your content, its source, and your coding style.

Dave


 Its actually faster according to the tests I've seen. Both ArrayAppend and 
 cfsaveContent came out the fastest in John Whish's testing on CF8 (see 
 http://www.aliaspooryorik.com/blog/index.cfm/e/posts.details/post/string-concatenation-performance-test-128).
  In most cases both of these were faster than StringBuilder or StringBuffer.

 concatenate with coldfusion : 6797ms
 listappend with coldfusion : 21344ms
 arrayappend with coldfusion : 47ms
 coldfusion with save content: 47ms
 concatenate with java stringbuffer : 62ms
 concatenate with java StringBuilder : 63ms

 Some time or other I'll have to try John's test case under load with jMeter 
 and see what the performance is actually like.

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Re: CF Blog software

2010-11-09 Thread Dave Merrill

Ii don't think many hosts prohibit CreateObject('component'), they're
after the java/com/corba flavors. CreateObject('java') is mighty
useful though; not sure if Mango uses it or not.

Dave

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mango Blog is great but it won't run on a ColdFusion host that restricts CFC
 creation...

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM, AJ Mercer ajmer...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am running mangoBlog on Railo
    http://www.mangoblog.org/
 http://www.mangoblog.org/




 

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Re: Installing CF9 on Windows 7 64 bit

2010-11-07 Thread Dave Merrill

+1

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:

 The CF9 installers fails because it can't find the MDAC 2.6 or higher.  But, 
 that object is now integrated into the OS directly.  So,
 it is available.

 Has anyone worked around this during the install of CF9?

 I've installed CF 9 on Windows 7 64-bit several times, and have never
 run into that issue.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

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Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype

2010-11-07 Thread Dave Merrill

Sorry, no, HTMLEditFormat replacesand  and their unicode
versions with the equivalent HTML entities. It doesn't turn CR or LF
into br /, or fix any Word characters.

Dave

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look at the DeMoronize function on CF-Lib.org It does a pretty good job of 
 removing most Word related crud.
 http://www.cflib.org/index.cfm?event=page.udfbyidudfid=725

 Also you can use the replace function to replace the windows carriage returns 
 and line feeds with a br /

 However it may be easier just to use the HTMLEditFormat() function that does 
 the same.

 hth,
 larry


 You can also find useful functions on cflib.org for formatting and remove
 word crap.
 Htmltidy may also help you, this is not a cfml tag though so use google.


Totally!  cflib.org roxors.

You can probably find something that sanitizes the input for XSS
attacks and whatnot too, which shouldn't be overlooked.

I'd google it for the OP, but the OP doesn't know me that well, and
thus I might be interpreted incorrectly.  ;)p

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Re: CF (8.0.0) performance vs PHP (5)

2010-11-07 Thread Dave Merrill

Yes, cfsavecontent appears to use a java buffer internally, and runs
just about as fast. Pick whichever method gives you code you like
better with your content, its source, and your coding style.

Dave

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote:

+1,000,000 for Jame's theory about string concatenation. CF is very
inefficient at this. Doesn't amtter much for small stuff and a few
repeats, but for bulk, a Java buffer is the way to go.

Dave



 String concatenation is quite slow in CF. This blog did some fairly simple 
 tests and found that cfsavecontent was the fastest was to do string 
 concatendation, see http://blog.fi.net.au/?p=279

 I've run run similar tests using a more robust testing procedure and found 
 similar results, (see 
 http://www.aliaspooryorik.com/blog/index.cfm/e/posts.details/post/string-concatenation-performance-test-128)
  Basically cfsavecontent is on the average twice as fast as the java string 
 buffer.

 What I'd suggest is do not write the file line by line but build up the 
 string using cfsavecontent then write the string to disk. I think you'll find 
 that that is about as fast as the PHP method, or nearly so.

 regards,
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What's the MySQL syntax for this query?

2010-11-01 Thread Dave Merrill

The SQL Server version of this query is this:

UPDATE t1
  FROM MyTable   t1
   SET Foo = 1
 WHERE Bar = 99
   AND NOT EXISTS
   (
 SELECT *
   FROM MyOtherTable t2
  WHERE t2.SomeColumn   = t1.SomeColumn
AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
AND t2.YetAnotherColumn   = 42
   )


The Oracle version is this:

UPDATE
(
   SELECT *
 FROM MyTable   t1
WHERE Bar = 99
  AND NOT EXISTS
  (
SELECT *
  FROM MyOtherTable t2
 WHERE t2.SomeColumn   = t1.SomeColumn
   AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
   AND t2.YetAnotherColumn   = 42
  )
) join_table
SET join_table.Foo =   1


(Hopefully I didn't mess things up converting from real names and
simplifying a bit. Sorry about the bent indentation too; try it in a
monospace font.)

What's the MySQL version? Neither of those. All the examples on the
net are simple joins, not like this. Any other more reasonable ways to
do this, ideally something compatible with all three dbs (hah)?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: What's the MySQL syntax for this query?

2010-11-01 Thread Dave Merrill

Dang it, I was afraid I'd mess up that conversion. The SQL Server
version is actually this (2nd and 3rd lines switched):

UPDATE t1
   SET Foo = 1
  FROM MyTable   t1
 WHERE Bar = 99
   AND NOT EXISTS
   (
 SELECT *
   FROM MyOtherTable t2
  WHERE t2.SomeColumn   = t1.SomeColumn
AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
AND t2.YetAnotherColumn   = 42
   )

Dave

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Dave Merrill enigm...@gmail.com wrote:
 The SQL Server version of this query is this:

 UPDATE t1
  FROM MyTable   t1
   SET Foo = 1
  WHERE Bar = 99
   AND NOT EXISTS
       (
         SELECT *
           FROM MyOtherTable t2
          WHERE t2.SomeColumn   = t1.SomeColumn
            AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
            AND t2.YetAnotherColumn   = 42
       )


 The Oracle version is this:

 UPDATE
 (
   SELECT *
     FROM MyTable   t1
    WHERE Bar = 99
      AND NOT EXISTS
          (
            SELECT *
              FROM MyOtherTable t2
             WHERE t2.SomeColumn   = t1.SomeColumn
               AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
               AND t2.YetAnotherColumn   = 42
          )
 ) join_table
 SET join_table.Foo =   1


 (Hopefully I didn't mess things up converting from real names and
 simplifying a bit. Sorry about the bent indentation too; try it in a
 monospace font.)

 What's the MySQL version? Neither of those. All the examples on the
 net are simple joins, not like this. Any other more reasonable ways 

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Re: What's the MySQL syntax for this query?

2010-11-01 Thread Dave Merrill

This more straight ahead version also works for Oracle:

UPDATE MyTable t1
   SET Foo = 1
 WHERE Bar = 99
   AND NOT EXISTS
   (
 SELECT *
   FROM MyOtherTable t2
  WHERE t2.SomeColumn   = t1.SomeColumn
AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
AND t2.YetAnotherColumn   = 42
   )

Still no ideas for MySQL.
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Re: What's the MySQL syntax for this query?

2010-11-01 Thread Dave Merrill

@Azadi and Leigh, the oracle syntax gives this on mysql: Error Code:
1093 You can't specify target table 'dfv1' for update in FROM clause.

Ended up with this for mysql:

UPDATE MyTable t1
LEFT OUTER JOIN t2 ON t2.SomeColumn = t1.SomeColumn
AND t2.SomeOtherColumn = t1.SomeOtherColumn
AND t2.YetAnotherColumn = 42
SET Foo = 1
WHERE Bar = 99
AND t2.SomeColumn IS NULL

Funky stuff.

Dave


On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This more straight ahead version also works for Oracle:

 What error are you getting? I would expect that syntax to work with MySQL 5.

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Re: What's the MySQL syntax for this query?

2010-11-01 Thread Dave Merrill

Yes, the actual query's different, that's why the msg about 'dfv1',
which wasn't actually in the version I posted.

Anyway, I'm good I think, thanks for checking.

Dave

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Leigh cfsearch...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, putting the JOIN in the UPDATE should work for MySQL.

 1093 You can't specify target table 'dfv1' for update in
 FROM clause.

 Though I am thinking the actual query was different than what you posted. 
 Because I tried version #3 with MySQL 5 and it _seemed_ to run without error. 
 Anyway, glad you have something that works now.

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Re: CFLOOP Next Iteration

2010-10-29 Thread Dave Merrill

Just to say it, I too had lots of trouble with CFB, and while I liked
some things about CFEclipse before that, its bloat and bugginess
bummed me out (Eclipse more than CFE).

But now I'm a happy camper, using IntelliJ IDEA with its CFML plugin.
No, it's not perfect by any means, but it's just a really *smart* IDE,
with tons of convenience and productivity features, handles many
languages, and CFML support is getting better and better. I'm enjoying
it more than any other editor I've used, and I've been doing this a
long time.

Couple things to note if you're thinking about giving it a try:

- If you're on a Mac, my understanding is that it's butt-ugly out of
the box. Try the GTK+ Appearance setting (says Mark Mandel; I don't
have a mac).

- To start a new CF project, choose a Java project, cancel out of
scanning for java files, and uncheck the box to create a source
directory. One of the things they need to work on is making starting a
new CF project more intuitive for newcomers.

- The CFML plugin requires the Ultimate version of IDEA, won't work
with the free Community version. It's about $250, with a free 30 day
trial. I live in my IDE all day and sometimes a good hunk of the
evening too, so I'm OK with that.

/soapbox

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Re: Question about using javascript in .cfm files...

2010-10-28 Thread Dave Merrill

+1

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote:

 I'll +1 that. I generally only use CF to set js vars at the top of the head
 too. That way your js can stay pure js.


 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Rick Faircloth ric...@whitestonemedia.com
 wrote:


 Interesting approach, Carl!
 Haven't thought about that.
 I'll definitely give that a try!

 Thanks for the tip!

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: Carl Von Stetten [mailto:cmvon...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:19 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Question about using javascript in .cfm files...


 Rick,

 I have shared CF variables with JavaScript too.  What I usually do is this:

 If I have to do any processes to define the CF variables, I put them at the
 top of the document, above the head section.  Then, in the head section
 of my CFM page, I add a cfoutput inside a script tag and pass all of
 the
 desired CF variables into JavaScript variables.  I make sure this is
 defined
 before I load any external JavaScript files and call any JavaScript
 functions.

 This way my JavaScript files retain their .js extension.

 HTH,
 Carl

 I've been using js files as .cfm files
 so I can intermix cf variables in the js.
 
 i.e., naming myJSFile.js, myJSFile.js.cfm, instead.
 
 This seems to work fine, but I've run into an issue
 that makes me wonder if this works in all cases as
 a regular js file would.
 
 Here's the question:
 
 If I have a js function in a .cfm file, would the
 declared function be defined by the browser
 upon first entering a page as it would if the function
 were in a .js file?
 
 e.g., should the function checkUserFavorites:
 
 function checkUserFavorites(USERID) {
 
        blah, blah, blah
 
 be defined if the js were in a .cfm file as readily
 as it would in a .js file?
 
 I keep running into a checkUserFavorites is not defined
 for which I cannot track down the problem.
 
 I'm reaching for an answer at this point, because I can't
 otherwise explain the error message otherwise, yet.
 
 Thanks for any feedback.
 
 Rick





 

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HTMLEditFormat() broken in CF9?

2010-08-15 Thread Dave Merrill

Hi folks,

It looks to me that in CF9, HTMLEditFormat no longer escapes text that's 
already escaped. In other words, all these lines except the first one produce 
identical results inside cfoutput (except for the line number, and assuming 
this code makes it ok through email):
1
2 amp; quot; lt; gt;
3 #HTMLEditFormat('   ')#
4 #HTMLEditFormat('amp; quot; lt; gt;')#
4 #HTMLEditFormat(HTMLEditFormat('   '))#
6 #HTMLEditFormat(HTMLEditFormat(HTMLEditFormat('   ')))#
7 #HTMLEditFormat(HTMLEditFormat(HTMLEditFormat(HTMLEditFormat('   '#

I've tested this on two different machines, both win7, one 32-bit and one 64, 
identical results. I've captured the output to a file and looked at it in an 
editor to make sure it's not a browser hallucination (but I know it's not 
anyway because a home-grown alternative works as expected).

This is very very bad in some contexts, for instance display or editing of 
html/cfml code, where it's essential that whatever the original is, what goes 
to the browser needs to be escaped one more level. I've been using 
HTMLEditFormat for this for years, and now it appears to be broken.

Of course I can write a replacement easily, just trying to understand what's 
going on, and if I'm seeing what I think I am, eventually figure out if Adobe 
considers it an improvement, or a bug that'll eventually get fixed.

Is anyone else seeing this? Any ideas? Any place else I ought to be asking? 
(Doesn't seem like a real Stack Overflow question, for instance.)

Thanks,
Dave 

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HOF site down for several days?

2010-01-09 Thread Dave Merrill

I've been unable to get to the HOF site for a couple of days, it just keeps
loading forever. I've tried from home and from work, same thing.

Are other people seeing this?

Thanks.

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RE: HOF site down for several days?

2010-01-09 Thread Dave Merrill

All three seem fine now. Odd, dns hiccup maybe.

Thanks for checking Michael. 

Dave Merrill
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 I haven't seen any problems with the site for the last few 
 days. Can you hit www.fusionauthority.com or 
 www.blogoffusion.com? They are on the same machine. Actually, 
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RE: (ot) Powerpoint question

2010-01-06 Thread Dave Merrill

I think that PowerPoint lets you draw directly on slides within PowerPoint
itself, in full screen mode. There are keyboard shortcuts to erase
annotations, show and hide the mouse pointer, etc.

Dave Merrill
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 -Original Message-
 From: Stefan Richter [mailto:ste...@flashcomguru.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: (ot) Powerpoint question
 
 
 Hi all,
 sorry for the OT question but I think someone here may be 
 able to advise.
 
 Is it technically possible to keep an application (for 
 example a Windows executable of some kind) on top of a 
 Powerpoint presentation which is in fullscreen, presenter 
 mode? Imagine I was presenting a PPT file and wanted to 
 annotate it live on my screen by drawing on top of it using a 
 simple freehand drawing tool. For this to happen the drawing 
 app would need to have focus which means the PPT snaps out of 
 presentation mode.
 
 Any ideas welcome.
 
 Regards,
 
 Stefan
 
 
 
 
 
 

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CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Dave Merrill
Hello folks,

As I understand it, cflocation sends a redirect to the browser, navigating
it to a new page, potentially including url parameters. Is there any way to
do a similar thing, but emulating a form, so passed parameters can be kept
out of the url?

Only thing I can think of is to render an actual html form, along with
javascript to submit it. Is there an alternative?

Thanks,

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RE: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Dave Merrill
Well yes, you could use those other mechanisms to hand off the data, or push
it into a db table, but that's not really what I'm trying to think about. 

Is there a form equivalent to the http mechanism used by cflocation, where
the server side generates info that gets passed to a new page? 

Semi-relevant: cfhttp can submit a form with specified data to a specified
url, but the whole thing happens on the server, without the browser
relocating anywhere. What I'm looking for is just like that, but navigating
the browser to that submitted pg.

Dave Merrill  

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  navigating it to a new page, potentially including url 
 parameters. Is 
  there any way to do a similar thing, but emulating a form, 
 so passed 
  parameters can be kept out of the url?
 
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RE: CFLOCATION, but with a form

2007-12-18 Thread Dave Merrill
Ian, that's exactly what I was looking for, a server response that asks the
browser to submit a form, the form analog of what cflocation does. It
doesn't surprise me that no such thing exists.

Dave Merrill  

 -Original Message-
 From: Ian Skinner 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFLOCATION, but with a form
 
 Semi-relevant: cfhttp can submit a form with specified data 
 to a specified url, but the whole thing happens on the 
 server, without the browser relocating anywhere. What I'm 
 looking for is just like that, but navigating the browser to 
 that submitted pg.
 
 Dave Merrill  
 
 I am not seeing how this mechanism would work.  You want the 
 server to build a request for the client so that the client 
 ends up somewhere else by submitting a form post?  This 
 sounds like a mixing of the server/client - request/response schema.
 
 cflocation... generates a response to the client request.  
 This is a response (HTTP status 301 IIRC) that the client 
 recognizes.  Most browsers then handle this response by 
 sending a new request to the suggested location.  But of 
 course they do not have to do this.
 
 There are no responses that I know of that suggests the 
 browser to make a new form post request.  I have done 
 something like this in the ancient past (10 years ago) by 
 building an HTML form with a JavaScript auto-submit that is 
 sent to the browser.  Of course this may not be looked on too 
 friendly in todays environment and would be easily defeated.
 
 Bottom line: NO I know of no way to do this and it does not 
 make sense to me from a client/server perspective.
 
 
 

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Re: PostgreSQL Case Sensitive Data?

2007-01-13 Thread Dave Merrill
Frankly, I agree with Matt that search behavior really should be case
insensitive. I've wanted to check out postgres for a while, but finding this
out may well slow me down.

If, like most other dbs, searching for calculated expressions
(LCASE(some_column) = 'foo' etc) is significantly inefficient, how are you
supposed to manage this in the real world? Only idea I had was to store every
possibly searchable value in mixed case for display, and somewhere else in all
lowercase for searching.

The other thing is that this makes it hard to use postgres as a drop-in
replacement for most other common dbs. Sure, you could (re-)design the app
from scratch to handle what most other dbs usually do automatically, but if
that's really what you have to do, it seems like a much bigger decision than
dealing with the much less pervasive syntax differences between vendors.

Are folks really sure that no case-insensitive collation option is available?

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Re: CF and OOP - Controller

2006-12-30 Thread Dave Merrill
 Question # 1: Am I correctly understanding what a 'controller' is?  As I
 understand it, in an MVC environment, the controller is what handles all
the
 various tasks required prior to rendering the requested page.

I think of the controller as the orchestrator, the one who examines the
context, calls the models needed to get any data required, then passes that to
the view for rendering. He's the traffic cop, kinda.


 Question # 2: Assuming that the answer to Q1 is 'Yes', is it
 correct/okay/accepted for the controller to be a CFC as opposed to an
 include or custom tag, and that controller CFC to reference outside scopes,
 such as 'form', 'url', 'session', and 'cgi'?

Includes and custom tags aren't really part of the OO model. Doesn't mean they
aren't useful in an OO context, but probably not as any of the main OO
players; those would be CFCs (or maybe java objects).

I have a strong preference that CFC methods be passed the info they need as
arguments, rather than fishing it out of the air themselves. That makes it
very clear what inputs they expect, and makes them testable, becuase you can
easily feed each little piece disembodied test data outside the normal
complexity of the real app.

For that to happen, you need some kind of app structure that gathers the
incoming data (typically including form and url scopes, maybe others), and
calls the requested method of the requested CFC. It can be very simple, or
something more full-featured.

HTH,

Dave


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RE: recruiters with english as a second language

2006-04-02 Thread Dave Merrill
I know everyone here knows this, but I can't just leave this thread
percolating without responding...

I currently work in a culturally mixed environment, with a number of people
from outside the US. Sometimes I have a bit of difficulty with their accents
or wordings, as they do with the native english speakers, but nobody's shy
about saying, what?, so we work it out.

And make no mistake, all these folks are seriously sharp, very nice people.
I'm happy to be working with each of them.

Everybody's different from somebody. That doesn't make them any less
valuable, or worthy of respect.

Recruiters, on the other hand, regardless of where they're from, that's
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Annoyances with cfencode

2006-02-20 Thread Dave Merrill
Hi folks,

No matter what I do, cfencode gives a failure alert when encrypting more
than one file at once. Msg is:
--
The file you provided could not be encrypted. Make sure that
the directory path specified for the OutFile exists,
the file is not already encrypted, and the version is correct
--

It does that when I run it from a cmd prompt in a directory with just 2 cfm
or cfc files, pointing it at *.cfm, *.cfc, or *.cf*, and happens whether /q
or /r are used or not. Running under Ant, it also returns a failure code of
1.

The files do get encrypted, so it's working; the error msg is just annoying,
and makes it hard for an Ant script know if it did actually work.

Is that what you see? If not, any idea what might be different about how
we're using it? My basic code is:
cfencode *.cfm /q /r /v 2

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RE: Annoyances with cfencode

2006-02-20 Thread Dave Merrill
 No matter what I do, cfencode gives a failure alert when
 encrypting more
 than one file at once.

 use a shell command with some kind of looping structure:

 dos:
 for /R %i in (*.cfm) do cfencode %i [opts]

 *nix:
 find . -name *.cfm -exec cfencode [opts] {} \;

 /t

Hmmm. So I gather that this behavior is what you see too? You work around it
by not asking it to do more than one file at once? A bit odd that after all
these years, basic functionality of this tool is so broken.

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RE: Annoyances with cfencode

2006-02-20 Thread Dave Merrill
I know. As they say, it keeps honest people honest, nothing more.

Dave Merrill

 
 Keep in mind that cfencoded templates are easily decoded.
 
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RE: OT: text editor that allow a tab

2005-11-13 Thread Dave Merrill
In a very similar situation, I've allowed ^t to stand for a tab; just
replace when the page is submitted. Some editors use that shorthand in
replace dlogs, so it's not completely foreign.

Dave Merrill


 From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Well im looking for an actual tab character.

 See im working on a tool im wanting to release to the community, its a
 query browser that lets you test out queries in a page.  I developed
 it for a company I am consulting for and they have found it pretty
 useful.  It basically just has textarea, and most of the time people
 seem to be copying their sql code into it which will retain their
 tabs, but there is no way to insert a tab in while writing directly
 into it.  Its just a much asked for feature that I dont think is
 possible, but just wanted to check.  But I dont want it to insert code
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Named anchor + url params in IE

2005-11-13 Thread Dave Merrill
I'm finding that urls with both parameters and a named anchor, like this:

  somesite/somedir/somefile.cfm?method=goaction=showHelp#help_sql

work fine in Firefox, but not in IE. It goes to the page, but not to the
requested anchor.


Also tried this variant:

  somesite/somedir/somefile.cfm#help_sql?method=goaction=showHelp

no joy in either browser.


Has anyone else seen this behavior? More importantly, got a workaround?

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RE: Cold Fusion Job Resources

2005-06-11 Thread Dave Merrill
Couple more suggestions:

craigslist.com just seems to have more interesting jobs than many.

bostonworks.boston.com is good if you're in that area.

guru.com seems to be one of the better piecework sites, though I didn't end
up actually setting myself up there.

idealist.org is good if you're looking for that sort of thing, but it's not
very high volume.

indeed.com is an aggregator, and it's great. While it's quite helpful, I've
found that for some reason not every job from the sources they track shows
up, so it's also worth checking with at least some of them directly. FYI
also, not everything they find shows up in their rss feed or email alerts;
check the feed (easy in Firefox) and set up emails, but go to the site too.

Good luck,

Dave Merrill


 I don't seem to find a list of sites that are good resources for
 finding Cold Fusion work and wondering if anyone would like to
 contribute their list to this thread.  I'll start out with some
 of the basic ones I've found several on:

 http://www.CareerBuilder.com
 http://www.Monster.com
 http://JustColdFusionJobs.com

 Also, I'm wondering if anyone has ever come across a 'master' job
 agent -- in other words, a job agent that you can specify
 keywords and it finds jobs on multiple sites (instead of
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RE: Can Homesite+ use Homesite settings?

2005-06-07 Thread Dave Merrill
Thanks Mike. I always knew I was just going to try it, unless I heard
reports of something tragic happening, which I didn't expect. I'll make a
backup of those files before I replace them, see what happens.

Too bad these products don't actually seem to be designed to make
replicating your IDE environment to another machine easy.

Dave Merrill


 As far as I know, it should work.  HS+ is basically CF Studio.  CF
 Studio is basically HS with the db interaction, debugger and a couple
 other things.

 The files in the UserData folder are the same.

 However, everytime I try to copy my settings from one PC to another,
 they don't always take.  Most of the settings do copy, but a few have
 to be recreated manually.  I can't figure it out because I don't have
 the program running when copying files, so there isn't an issue with a
 locked file or a file being cached in memory.

 Regardless, it should work for you with a few minor burps.

 M!ke


 Could I just copy my UserData folder from Homesite 5 to another machine
 running Homesite+? Anyone tried this, or tried using HS 5 settings with
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Can Homesite+ use Homesite settings?

2005-06-06 Thread Dave Merrill
Could I just copy my UserData folder from Homesite 5 to another machine
running Homesite+? Anyone tried this, or tried using HS 5 settings with HS
5.5?

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RE: Send email in Outlook

2005-06-03 Thread Dave Merrill
Fred Flintstone says: If it's a single msg, purely text info (no styling or
rich text), and not too long, a mailto url might do it:

a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]body=gark%20spootMail
Me/a

Or are you trying to move contacts into the Outlook adr book?

Dave Merrill


 I just got an interesting request...

 Instead of the Email/E-Newsletter management system that I was planning
 to build for a client, they've now asked:

 (When opening a dynamic CF page with client verification info on it..)

 Can we just click a button to get all the information into Outlook so
 we can do whatever we want to it from there?

 Short of some serious programming involving gawd knows what
 DOM/tweaks/VB something - I don't think there is really a way to do
 that, right?

 Hell, just open the CF page, copy and paste?


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RE: Storyboard Tool

2005-06-03 Thread Dave Merrill
Some agile folks think that first-cut screen design should be done on a
whiteboard, using stickies for interface objects. Really easy, for anyone
including non-technical participants, really quick, easy to change, easy to
move around.

They also say to take a picture of it when you're done this iteration, but
the last time I tried something similar (but large, covering a biggish
section of a wall), the resolution of the camera wasn't good enough to
capture needed details. That was a long time ago though, and digital camera
tech has come a long way since.

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RE: Typing test for programming?

2005-06-02 Thread Dave Merrill
   Writing user documentation (or an article, or a book) is a very
 different
 skill than being able to type.  If a person can type 100 words a minute
 while composing at the same time, I'd be very impressed.

A former boss of mine (a business and tech consultant, one of the smartest
folks I've known) was legendary for both his typing and his ability to write
long, complex, high-level documents off the top of his head. I personally
know that he wrote an entire 500-page technical paper over a weekend -- one
run through it, no editing or revision. Handed it into (perfectionist)
production before delivery, and they made no changes. No typos, no
rephrasing, no reorg, nothing.

At roughly 325 words/pg, that's 162,500 words. Assuming two 12-hour days (it
was probably less than that), that's about 6,770 words/hour, or about 112
wpm. While composing. He didn't do that every day, and granted, it was
material he (obviously) knew really well.

Still, I wish I could do that.

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[OT] GMail and Norton Aniti-Virus

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Merrill
My ancient copy of NAV doesn't see the GMail accounts I have set up in
Outlook. Does anyone have this working with a recent version of NAV? Or does
it just not work period, maybe because GMail's POP setup is SSL secured?

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RE: Typing test for programming?

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Merrill
A bunch of people have suggested 'Typing of the Dead' as a really fun typing
game that gets your speed up. Demo version is a free download various
places.

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RE: Typing test for programming?

2005-06-01 Thread Dave Merrill
 I remember a friend of mine once bragged about typing
 (programming code primarily in C/C++) much faster with only 4 fingers
 because the syntax was so different from english that it was actually
 more efficient not to use standard touch-typing practices. I didn't
 think much of it at the time. In retrospect I have to think the code
 was likely god-awful looking.

My brother's a long-time APL programmer, and he can type it scary fast. If
you've ever seen APL, you know that's quite a feat. Looks like a cross
between hieroglyphics and a core dump.

A semi-famous quote:

APL, in which you can write a program to simulate shuffling a deck of
cards and then dealing them out to several players in four characters, none
of which appear on a standard keyboard.

— David Given

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RE: CF vs LAMP

2005-05-31 Thread Dave Merrill
LAMP typically involves PHP, not Perl. Not that I'm an authority on it, but
PHP has become at least pretty much object oriented, and there's a lot of
code out there for reuse. It's not an obviously stupid choice IMO.

MySQL is free, but otherwise it's a pretty inferior option to MSSQL IMO, in
features, scalability, ease of admin etc. Many of the MySQL features that
bring it anywhere near the same level of functionality are brand new, FWIW.

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RE: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software

2005-05-21 Thread Dave Merrill
 I use dbdesigner by fabforce

 Fabforce.net

 Open source project ;)

 Pat

It does look good, thanks for the link.

Did notice the following when I went to take a look at their forums:

---
Dear DBDesigner4 users,

Due to several attacks against the DBDesigner4 forum it has now been closed
down.
We simply cannot understand the sick motivation of people to attack Open
Source projects.
So please understand that we will not provide any support from now on.

We will continue to host the DBD4 download till the release of the MySQL
Workbench,
its successor application that will be an official MySQL product. Then this
project will rest in peace.

Best regards,
fabFORCE.net team
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Sad about the attacks, and lack of a support forum. It's also not completely
clear to me what exactly will happen when it becomes an official MySQL
product. Still free? Any idea when that'll happen?

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RE: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software

2005-05-21 Thread Dave Merrill
 Last year I embarked on a journey to find the best low-cost
 database design
 tool, and after about six trial versions, I was down to DDS and
 CharonWare's
 CaseStudio.  Eventually I chose CaseStudio, mainly because of the
 quality of
 the product and features.  There was a couple things I liked about DDS
 better, but overall CaseStudio won out.  I rolled this out to my
 entire team
 (six developers) and everyone loves it.

 www.casestudio.com

Thanks for this, looks cool. Support for *lots* of dbs too. A little pricier
than DDS, but not much.


 Two related notes: Oracle JDeveloper is a free download, and
 contains a very
 nice UML-notation data modeling tool.

Is JDeveloper really free, as in, not demo-ware or cripple-ware, but free
for commercial use? Is it appropriate for general purpose system modeling,
not making use of its Oracle-db-and-ADF-specific java generation?

I'd think that if that's true, it'd be cool, not having tried it. I wouldn't
expect any low-cost alternatives to match an Oracle product for features or
stability. Or am I just buying the hype?

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RE: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software

2005-05-21 Thread Dave Merrill
 Yeah, it is... I personally don't think it's a good thing, but I can
 certainly understand the motivations of people who attack open source
 projects. I would think they'd have to fall into two categories -- the
 first being the same sort of motivations that drive some teenagers to
 pull the wings off of flies (or write viruses) and the second being
 people who are threatened by the project. I would venture a guess that
 the attacks probably originated with someone who owns or works for a
 company producing a competing commercial product and who's seen their
 paying customers dropping their product in favor of this free
 alternative.

Not that I really know anything, but I'd be surprised if any company felt
that threatened, and if they did, thought that snipes like this would have
much effect in the long run. IMO the random vandals theory is much more
likely.

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RE: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software

2005-05-21 Thread Dave Merrill
Bruce A. Bergman wrote:
 Last year I embarked on a journey to find the best low-cost 
 database design 
 tool, and after about six trial versions, I was down to DDS and 
 CharonWare's 
 CaseStudio.  Eventually I chose CaseStudio, mainly because of the 
 quality of 
 the product and features.  There was a couple things I liked about DDS 
 better, but overall CaseStudio won out.  I rolled this out to my 
 entire team 
 (six developers) and everyone loves it.
 
 www.casestudio.com

Bruce, could you say some more about what made CaseStudio win out over DDS?

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RE: DB Design, Engineering Re-Engineering Software

2005-05-20 Thread Dave Merrill
Haven't gotten around to actually trying it, but DDS-Lite looks good:
http://www.dds-lite.com/

Interesting bullets from their feature list:

---
- Enhanced Entity Relationship Diagram modeling allows you to design a fully
relational database, complete with Cascading Referential Integrity
Constraints, Indexes, Checks, Defaults and Unique constraints.

- Data Structure Diagram that is created automatically from the Enhanced
Entity Relationship Diagram shows the complete table structure.

- Data Definition Language (DDL) Scripts for creating, dropping and loading
the database can be quickly and easily generated for all of the supported
database servers.

- Cross DBMS Target Compatibility allows you to design once and create for
all. No need to concern yourself with vendor specific variations to SQL
syntax. All is handled by the application.

- Supports All Major Databases including Oracle, DB2, SQL Server, Informix,
Sybase (ASA and ASE), MySQL, PostgreSQL, Interbase, Access, SQLBase, Ingres,
ANSI and Pervasive SQL.

- Template Language to define the Data Definition Language scripts allows
you to create the scripts exactly as you want them.

- Java Source Code can be created directly from the Enhanced Entity
Relationship Diagram to contain the Data Definition Language for any of the
supported database targets. Source code can be compiled and executed from
within the DDS-Lite environment.
---

The $100 version doesn't do views, procedures, triggers, reverse engineering
from existing dbs, or splitting big projects into multiple models. The $400
version does.

Dave Merrill


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RE: [OT] Free ftp/sftp server

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Merrill
Thanks, looks like this may be the one to go with. Wish it was
cross-platform, but that's not a real need, just a preference to learn the
quirks of one app for future situations.

Thanks again,

Dave

 Check out the FileZilla project on sourceforge. Their main product is an
 ftp/sftp client, but they also have a server product. I haven't used it,
 but i've been *real* impressed with the client in terms of how often
 they release, fix bugs, patch security problems, etc - so i'd say the
 server probably deserves a spin.

 It's GPL and has beta sftp support. Win32 only...

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[OT] Free ftp/sftp server

2005-05-18 Thread Dave Merrill
I'm switching from IIS to Apache (win2k), and the only thing preventing me
from shutting down IIS completely is that I need an ftp server (don't ask).
Ideally is should do sftp, be cross-platform win/nix/mac, and be compatible
with a wide variety of clients. (I'm not interested in a cf solution.)

The only relevant jakarta project I saw is Apache FtpServer, here:
  http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ftpserver/

The last update of that was in late '03, and it's at 0.9, neither of which
makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about it, but it might be great.

Besides that, I've seen:

freeFTPd - appears to be brand new, win only, does sftp I think
FtpGoServer - cross platform java
War FTP Daemon - win, been around for ever

Anyone have experience with any of these, or good alternatives?

Thanks,

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Anyone know anything about R.L. Stevens?

2005-05-16 Thread Dave Merrill
These folks: http://www.interviewing.com/

I'm not so much looking for comments about career management firms in 
general, more specific experience with this one in particular. They've been 
around for a long time, but I haven't found much in the way of opinions, 
positive or negative.

Thanks,

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RE: Client side include

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Merrill
Another idea I'm sure you've thought of is to put the menu in its own frame.
That way it's not just cached, it doesn't even have to reload or render it.

It does cause problems for bookmarks and section 508 compliance, but
depending on the audience and use of the site, it may be worth considering.

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[OT - JS] onsubmit state

2005-05-11 Thread Dave Merrill
Say you've got a form with multiple submit btns, each given the name
form_action, but with different values. When the form is submitted, the
clicked submit btn's value shows up as form.form_action, as expected.

However, from within an onclick handler for any of those btns, or an
onsubmit handler for the form, form.form_action.value is undefined. This
means that validation or other code that needs to know which submit btn was
clicked can't tell.

What I've done in the past is to include a hidden form field whose value is
what we pay attention to, and set its value in the onclick handler for each
submit btn.

Anyone have any other strategies?

Dave Merrill


PECULIAR ASIDE:
Interestingly, to set the value of that hidden field, you use:
form.form_action.value = whatever,
even though there's a hidden field plus multiple submit btns, all with
that name. Typically you'd need to access that hidden field as:
form.form_action.value[0]
but that generates an error. It's like the named submit btns don't exist
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RE: [OT - JS] onsubmit state

2005-05-11 Thread Dave Merrill
Typo in the PECULIAR ASIDE. It would normally be:
form.form_action[0].value

not:
form.form_action.value[0]

Doh!

Don't want to distract my own thread here, but what's still peculiar is that
form.form_action.value = whatever
(without the [0]) has the desired effect, even though there are multiple
form objects with that name. It still works without the hidden field. Still
odd, or I'm doing a brain blank again.

Dave Merrill

 Say you've got a form with multiple submit btns, each given the name
 form_action, but with different values. When the form is submitted, the
 clicked submit btn's value shows up as form.form_action, as expected.

 However, from within an onclick handler for any of those btns, or an
 onsubmit handler for the form, form.form_action.value is undefined. This
 means that validation or other code that needs to know which
 submit btn was
 clicked can't tell.

 What I've done in the past is to include a hidden form field
 whose value is
 what we pay attention to, and set its value in the onclick
 handler for each
 submit btn.

 Anyone have any other strategies?

 Dave Merrill


 PECULIAR ASIDE:
 Interestingly, to set the value of that hidden field, you use:
   form.form_action.value = whatever,
 even though there's a hidden field plus multiple submit btns, all with
 that name. Typically you'd need to access that hidden field as:
   form.form_action.value[0]
 but that generates an error. It's like the named submit btns
 don't exist
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RE: Re-ordering items in a list

2005-05-11 Thread Dave Merrill
Do the items consist only of displayed text, no hidden IDs or other
attributes? Is the text editable?

If yes to both, another alternative is to put them all on separate lines of
a textarea. Users already know how to edit this with cut/paste/drag/drop,
there aren't any btns to enable/disable, clean and simple.

Dave Merrill


 I have a need for users to re-order 10-20 items in a list, easily.

 Normally I would do this in one of three ways:

 1.  List the items in order on a normal html page, and add move
 up/move down links

 2.  List all the items in the left column of a two column format, and
 make the items clickable.. when they are clicked, they're added to the
 right column.   Again, a plain html page with some coldfusion on the
 back-end.

 3.  List the items and include textboxes for the user to enter the
 priority numbers.. 3, 5, 1, 2, 4 .. etc..

 Personally, I usually prefer #1... #2 requires you to add them in order
 to the right column, and I generally find sites that use the third
 method to be a pain.

 What I'd like to do is use a flash RIA with a component on the back-end
 that allows me to drag-n-drop within a single list box.  But I haven't
 done anything like this before, and wondered if anyone had some
 suggestions or examples.

 I think I'll post this to flashcoders too =)

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RE: [OT - JS] onsubmit state

2005-05-11 Thread Dave Merrill
The point is that regardless of what btn was clicked, its value hasn't
taken effect yet during onclick or onsubmit.

How does giving them different names help?

Dave Merrill


 Without knowing what exactly you're using it for, I'd say give the submit
 buttons different names rather than values

 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Merrill

 Say you've got a form with multiple submit btns, each given the name
 form_action, but with different values. When the form is submitted, the
 clicked submit btn's value shows up as form.form_action, as expected.

 However, from within an onclick handler for any of those btns, or an
 onsubmit handler for the form, form.form_action.value is undefined. This
 means that validation or other code that needs to know which
 submit btn was
 clicked can't tell.

 What I've done in the past is to include a hidden form field
 whose value is
 what we pay attention to, and set its value in the onclick
 handler for each
 submit btn.

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RE: HE3?

2005-05-10 Thread Dave Merrill
The CFEclipse list (http://cfeclipse.tigris.org/) has had some recent
conversation about HE3, though it has slid over into other topics under that
same subject line.

Here's the short version:

---
Matt Liotta and Guy Rish - RichPallette - said on the He3 mailing list
that they had over promised and under delivered and that they were
looking into a commercial partnership to move He3 forward:

To this end, we are working to secure a partnership with an established
commercial software vendor to help us bring He3 to market in a polished
form. Quite simply, there will be no future releases of He3 until we can
ensure that it is a proper replacement for ColdFusion Studio/Homesite.

Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/
Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/


Dave Merrill

 A question was posted in Cf-OT a while back with no response...not
 sure how much traffic OT gets so I figured I'd repost here...what
 happened with He3? seems to of kinda disappeared...

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RE: Bug? Semicolon blows up Flash CFGRID

2005-05-10 Thread Dave Merrill
Leaving aside whether this is a bug or not, suppose you replace all
semicolons w Chr(59).

Haven't tried it, so I don't know if that will either prevent the problem or
display as a semicolon from inside cfgrid, but funky or not, it's worth a
shot.

Dave Merrill

 So, does anybody out there in Macromedia land think this is a bug
 that I'm just stuck with, or what?   I want to use CFGRID but if
 it's going to blow up every time someone clicks on a record that
 contains a semicolon, that's a real problem.

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RE: HASH() reverse

2005-05-08 Thread Dave Merrill
 So you might find your hash in the rainbow
 tables, but the original string still might not match.

True, but in most cases where a hash is used, it doesn't matter; all you
need is some string that results in the same hash. That'd be typical for a
password system, for instance.

If the original text was required, a hash of it wouldn't be a sensible thing
to store.

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RE: HASH() reverse

2005-05-08 Thread Dave Merrill
 Hashes need not be 32-bit. Hashes created using MD5, the default algorithm
 used by CFMX, are 128-bit, 32 character strings. CFMX 7 supports SHA-1,
 SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512 out of the box, plus you can use
 hash functions
 provided by any Java security provider you install. SHA-1 creates
 a 160-bit
 message digest, and the newer versions create hashes using the number of
 bits specified in their names.

 FIPS 180-1 describes the SHA/SHS standard:
 http://www.itl.nist.gov/fipspubs/fip180-1.htm

 The SHA-1 is designed to have the following properties: it is
 computationally infeasible to find a message which corresponds to a given
 message digest, or to find two different messages which produce the same
 message digest.

 Of course, what's computationally infeasible now may not be in the future,
 in some cases.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/

FWIW, Bruce Schneier's discussion of hashing algorithms refers to MD-5 as
having been broken, and SHA-1 somewhat on its way towards obsolesence, but
not as an emergency.

Don't think he'd suggest panic over the state of MD-5 either, but the first
reference below includes a link to a paper demonstrating a technique for
finding MD5 collisions quickly: eight hours on 1.6 GHz computer.

See here:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/03/more_hash_funct.html

and:
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/cryptanalysis_o.html

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RE: HASH() reverse

2005-05-07 Thread Dave Merrill
 A common mistake is too think of hashes as encryption - they're
 not.  They
 don't represent the source.  It's better to think of a hash as a
 Fingerprint.

 There is no way, using a fingerprint, to reconstruct the finger which made
 it.  That information isn't represented by the fingerprint (which
 is only a surface reflection).

 However if you have a finger you CAN use a fingerprint to determine if the
 finger is in face the one that made the print.

 In other words hashes (like fingerprints) can identify the original but
 can't ever recreate it.

 Make sense?

 Jim Davis

Nice explanation Jim (:-)

It's sometimes hard for people to understand this basic concept. That was
the simplest, clearest, most common-sense take on hashing I've seen. I'll
remember it if I need to go through this with a client.

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RE: Bug? Semicolon blows up Flash CFGRID

2005-05-06 Thread Dave Merrill
If I'm remembering right, the same thing happens with CFTREE, or at least it
did in older CF versions.

Not that that's much help...

Dave Merrill

 Here's a strange one... If the text in a cell of the selected row
 of a CFMX7 Flash CFGRID contains a semicolon that is NOT the last
 character in the cell, it blows up, resulting in the error The
 submitted cfgrid form field is corrupt.

 Here's some sample code for you:

 CFSET myQuery = QueryNew(ticket_id,description)
 CFSET temp = QueryAddRow(myQuery)
 CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,ticket_id,1)
 CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,description,a;)
 CFSET temp = QueryAddRow(myQuery)
 CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,ticket_id,2)
 CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,description,a;b)

 CFFORM NAME=test ACTION=test.cfm
 CFGRID NAME=testGrid QUERY=myQuery SELECTMODE=ROW FORMAT=FLASH
 /CFGRID
 CFINPUT TYPE=submit NAME=submit
 /CFFORM

 Click on Row 1 and submit, and all is well.  Click on Row 2 and
 submit and it throws the error.  Is this a bug, perhaps?

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RE: Bug? Semicolon blows up Flash CFGRID

2005-05-06 Thread Dave Merrill
It was commas, not semicolons, that were the issue; sorry for the bogus
info.

I looked through my notes for the project where I thought I remembered
running into it, and found this:


- The double entries at the top level are caused by the comma in
#pat_name#.
  Don't know why this version of cftree does that, but removing the comma
fixes the problem. There's a delimiter parameter to the cftree, but a)
it's not comma by default, and b) making it something odd that's not
in pat_names does nothing.


If I'm right placing this chronologically, it was discovered when we moved
to MX61. Don't know if ti's still an issue in MX7.

Dave Merrill


 For what it's worth, I experimented with CFTREE and couldn't
 reproduce the problem there.  Seems to be just CFGRID.

 Joy

 At 04:43 PM 5/6/2005 -0400, you wrote:
 If I'm remembering right, the same thing happens with CFTREE, or
 at least it
 did in older CF versions.
 
 Not that that's much help...
 
 Dave Merrill
 
  Here's a strange one... If the text in a cell of the selected row
  of a CFMX7 Flash CFGRID contains a semicolon that is NOT the last
  character in the cell, it blows up, resulting in the error The
  submitted cfgrid form field is corrupt.
 
  Here's some sample code for you:
 
  CFSET myQuery = QueryNew(ticket_id,description)
  CFSET temp = QueryAddRow(myQuery)
  CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,ticket_id,1)
  CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,description,a;)
  CFSET temp = QueryAddRow(myQuery)
  CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,ticket_id,2)
  CFSET QuerySetCell(myQuery,description,a;b)
 
  CFFORM NAME=test ACTION=test.cfm
  CFGRID NAME=testGrid QUERY=myQuery SELECTMODE=ROW
 FORMAT=FLASH
  /CFGRID
  CFINPUT TYPE=submit NAME=submit
  /CFFORM
 
  Click on Row 1 and submit, and all is well.  Click on Row 2 and
  submit and it throws the error.  Is this a bug, perhaps?
 
  Joy
 
 
 
 

 

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RE: Basic web interface question

2005-05-05 Thread Dave Merrill
 In my own
 applications I tend to send the user back to the list page (typically
 not a search page, just a sortable list that's optionally paginated
 based on their user preferences -- these pages can become search pages
 pretty easily because the framework automates filters on their
 columns, so I can automatically get all the contacts with bob
 somewhere in their name by typing membername=bob into the url.)
   [...]
 s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080

Isaac, you're not suggesting that the *user* type membername=bob into the
url to search, are you?

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Basic web interface question

2005-05-04 Thread Dave Merrill
It's not like I haven't done this before, in various ways, but I might as
well ask as long as I'm rethinking life...

Say you have the very normal situation with search screen leading to a list
of records, drill in to edit or create one. Where do you take the user when
they save an edited record?

- Back to the record list, with their previous search criteria still in
place? That seems most intuitive, but it means hanging on to those search
criteria while editing, which is potentially a multiple-screen wizard-like
thing. Not impossible by any means, but an architectural commitment, if
you're thinking generically.

- Another way to manage a similar net effect would be to open the edit
screen in a new window, and have it close and refresh the list window when
done. That's what I've often done, but some users find the new window thing
confusing, particularly if it comes up maximized and they don't even realize
it's a new window.

- Back to the search screen? Kind of annoying if it didn't remember their
search criteria, so see above.

- Back to the record list, but with only that one record showing? Not
particularly functional.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Merrill
  I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but
  I do know
  that browsers can't accept both a query string and an
  anchor...

  Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
  the end,
  e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

 I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
 tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

 s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080

FWIW, the following test worked fine on IE6, IE5.5, IE5, Opera754, and
Firefox102, all on win2K:

query_string_and_anchor_test.cfm?last_name=asdffirst_name=qwer#anchor50

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Merrill
   Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
   the end,
   e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky
 
  I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
  tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky
 
  s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080

 FWIW, the following test worked fine on IE6, IE5.5, IE5, Opera754, and
 Firefox102, all on win2K:

 query_string_and_anchor_test.cfm?last_name=asdffirst_name=qwer#anchor50

Just noticed that if addtoken is true or omitted for cflocate, the cfid and
cftoken that get added to the end of the query string screw up the anchor,
presumably since it's no longer at the end.

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RE: What's your setup for multiple developers

2005-05-01 Thread Dave Merrill
I've been learning a bit of java lately, and in that world, the typical tool
for this I think would be Ant, which is pretty slick.

XML config files define task specifics, including dependencies (don't deploy
until unit tests have run, for example), then you just tell it a task to
run, either from the cmd line or a .bat file. There are a ton of task types
predefined, including file and ftp operations.

Is anyone using Ant for deployment in a cf environment?

Dave Merrill

 On my team of about 10 developers, 4 of us have stepped out of
 the dark ages
 and are using CVS, actually only 2 of us use it fully, the other 2 are
 forced into it :) We use CVSNT also along with Tortoise. At the moment I
 manually export and copy to the 'staging' and production
 environments. Just
 use cvs export from the cmd prompt using the -d switch to specify a
 directory other then the module name.

 example: cvs export -DNow -R
 -dsome/relativeorabsolute/path/to/your/directory modulename

 Then copy from this directory to the actual one overwriting
 files. You could
 write a batch file to do this or even a CF script. IIRC, tortoise
 allows you
 to export to a named directory also. Checkout tortoise at
 tortoise.orghttp://tortoise.org,
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RE: Build SQL Statement and cfqueryparam

2005-04-28 Thread Dave Merrill
  IIRC Isaac Dealey wrote up an amazing database sniffer of
  sorts that
  can figure all this out by itself, but its probably
  overkill here.
  Still its an absolute gem that I really need to start
  using myself.

 Heh... thanks for the plug Matt... :)

 Yea, it's probably more than you need, but there's an article on the
 CFDJ site called Leveraging JDBC or Just Fetching Coffee which goes
 over the details of how to get data type information for your columns.
 Of course, it's all built into the framework (which is open-source, so
 you can rip to your hearts content if you like), though given your
 descrption is does rather sound like hunting deer with a howitzer. :)


 s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
 new epoch : isn't it time for a change?

Isaac, do you have a direct link for that article? It's probably right in
front of my face, but I didn't see it, and their search engine is down.

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[OFF] Discover an XML namespace

2005-04-27 Thread Dave Merrill
Please excuse the basic XML question, but how do you find out what a
namespace referenced like this looks like:

  html xmlns:v=some_domain.com
or
  html xmlns:v=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml

Is that possible remotely? Are the two references equivalent?

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RE: cfheader/cfcontent, auto-downloading a file, and IE woes

2005-04-27 Thread Dave Merrill
Let me guess, the users reporting this are on XP SP2? And maybe, not sure,
you're in a frame?

If I'm remembering right, it's a known bug in IE on that version of windows.
And if I'm remembering right again, the only solution we came up with was to
set the target for your download to window.parent.name. Don't know why this
helps; we just bushwacked, trying to get IE to not be thinking about that
window.

HTH, sorry to be vague.

Dave Merrill


 Got a stumper here (at least on my end).

 In my main project, I've got a page that is basically a DB table
 exporter - user specifies what fields, some filtering options, etc. The
 system then creates a text file, and then pushes the page over to a page
 with cfheader/cfcontent, to pop the file-placement window prompt on the
 user's machine.

 Works fine in Mozilla - but in IE (6, at least), whenever the prompt
 window pops up, and you choose where to put the file, the main IE
 browser window vanishes.

 I don't think there's any odd JS code in my pages as a whole that's
 causing this; one would think the same behavior would occur in Mozilla.

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RE: CrystalTech Users Beware

2005-04-23 Thread Dave Merrill
Interesting, wasn't aware of that.

Is there any way to guard against that kind of exploit, other than
encrypting everything in application and session scope, which would be very
inefficient and annoying?

Dave Merrill


 Hashing your app name isn't going to protect you from others on a
 shared server from looking in on you:

 !--- application tracker object ---
 cfset appObj =
 createObject(java,coldfusion.runtime.ApplicationScopeTracker)
 !--- get the enumeration of application keys ---
 cfset apps = appObj.getApplicationKeys()
 !--- session tracker object ---
 cfset tracker = createObject(java,
 coldfusion.runtime.SessionTracker)
 !--- while there are more applications in the enumeration ---
 cfloop condition=#apps.hasMoreElements()#
 !--- get the app name ---
 cfset appname = apps.nextElement()
 !--- get the sessions for this app name ---
 cfset sessions = tracker.getSessionCollection(appname)
 !--- dump the sessions out ---
 cfdump var=#sessions# label=#appname#
 /cfloop

 That code can be run by anyone on the server and you'll see the
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RE: ? and #

2005-04-23 Thread Dave Merrill
If I'm understanding your question, ## evaluates as #, and #pageLocation
should be part of the url itself, not the query string. Is one of those what
you're running into?

So, I think this should work (can't test it right now):
http://somewhere.com/mydir/myfile.cfm##pageLocation?#SESSION.AddToken#

Dave Merrill


 I know it's been asked but I can't find it in the archives or stored on
 my machine.

 How do I use the syntax
 http://somewhere.com/mydir/myfile.cfm?#SESSION.AddToken#; and combine
 it with a page jump #pageLocation ?

 I've tried putting it different places in the URL and can't get it to
 work.

 Thanks.

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RE: OT: Just a touch of Javascript

2005-04-12 Thread Dave Merrill
T o expand on this, is it really ok that this just not work at all if js is
disabled? I'd stronlgy suggest *some* other architecture for gluing these
two apps together.

Dave Merrill

 In retrospect, now that I know this is just an interrim page between
 your client's site and CartServer, why don't you just use cfhttp to
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RE: OT: Just a touch of Javascript

2005-04-11 Thread Dave Merrill
If that code is verbatim, the /form tag hasn't happened yet when the
script is called. The form object doesn't exist until its end tag closes it.

Dave Merrill

 Oh yea - if I do a view source on the page that comes up and isn't
 submitting, I'm getting exactly what I'm supposed to see.

 Basically, it's a page between the clients site and cartserver that sets
 up a bunch of required variables before it's submitted ...

 Full page below (from view source)


 head
 meta HTTP-EQUIV=expires CONTENT=Fri, 1 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT
 meta HTTP-EQUIV=Pragma CONTENT=no-cache
 /head

 form name=cart
id=cart
action=http://www.cartserver.com/sc/cart.cgi; method=POST

   input type=hidden name=item value=a-2838^ME-CUT^ME-CUT--Block
 cut-out earrings  ENGRAVED Initials:asd  Text Style:35^40.80^1

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RE: What do you use for project management?

2005-02-14 Thread Dave Merrill
I have a spreadsheet that does ok for tracking time, also invoiceable and
overhead expenses. A fellow I've done a lot of work with I think uses
QuickBooks.

Dave Merrill


 Just wanted to get an idea of what tools everyone use for project
 management. I've been looking at Traxtime for managing labor costs.

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RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms?

2005-02-14 Thread Dave Merrill
Except that it's desirable for an app to have a consistent look and feel for
users. My impression is that Flash forms look, and behave, a bit different
from std html.

Dave Merrill

  In my testing, a simple form with, say, 4 text inputs plus a submit
  button will take quite a bit to load (when it loads - it often
  requires a page refresh).

 A simple form with only four fields isn't a particularly
 compelling candidate to replace with a Flash form, and even
 Macromedia will tell you that Flash forms should not be used to
 replace every form.  Where you have multi-step processes and
 complex data entry is where Flash forms start to shine, and as
 Ray pointed out, the initial hit is worth it because the user
 experience is so much more solid and easy to use and you can do a
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CFMX 61 to CFMX 70 migration

2005-02-10 Thread Dave Merrill
Any comments on migrating from CFMX 61 to CFMX 70, issues beyond what's
listed in cfmx7_migrating.pdf?

Would you consider the 70 release stable enough for production use? Any
noticeable change in performance?

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RE: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

2005-02-10 Thread Dave Merrill
The fastest js-based method that I'm aware of is to have cf generate the
html for each set of options as js variables, then just set
select2.innerHTML to the one you want to use. Particularly efficient if
there are a bunch of options to set, since you don't have to iterate through
each one every time.

I know that the innerHTML attribute isn't html401 spec, but my understanding
(http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_html.html) is that it is supported in the
major browsers, and I've verified that it does work w current versions of
IE, Firefox and Opera on win2k. Caveat emptor though: This particular code
was built for IE specifically, and I haven't done any cross-browser testing
of it.

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[Way OT] Anyone traveling from UK to US soon?

2005-02-09 Thread Dave Merrill
Odd question I know, but my sister-in-law is looking for someone to bring
back more of a particular kind of notepad she got in London a while ago,
loves, and can't find in the states. It's not worth shipping them from the
UK, but probably is worth shipping them to some who's coming to the US, then
shipping them to her in Austin.

Long shot, but contact me off list if you know anyone likely, and I'll
connect the two of you.

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RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions

2005-02-06 Thread Dave Merrill
Thanks Jim, comments below.

Dave Merrill


  - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js
  capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions?

 The JavaScript and DHTML guides at MSDN.microsoft.com are pretty good and
 inform you of which features are in which specs (but not how to
 code for the other browsers).

I agree, they're very good, they've been my usual first stop for this kind
of info. However, they're completely IE-specific, which is part of how I
come to ask these questions.


 For example you might install Windows 2000 to a virtual PC.  You
 then make a
 copy of that and install IE 5.5 then another copy and install IE 6.0.  Now
 you can run all of them as windows on your host machine for testing.

Good idea. Kinda funny that the only way to have multiple versions of IE
installed is to have multiple versions of the entire OS. If this is my dev
laptop, I'd also need all my other dev tools and settings. Pain in the .


  - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines?

 Personally, no.  I use Virtual PC for PC and Linux and trust to the graces
 of friends for Macs (since I can't see spending the money and
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RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions

2005-02-06 Thread Dave Merrill
I agree, but there are a few issues.

- Tables are not good for section 508 compliance, or any other situation
where html markup ideally has meaning, i.e., isn't just a layout artifact.

- CSS positioning makes layout much more separate from content, which is
important if there are designers who are separate from the programmers.

- Some prospective clients are dis-impressed.

Dave Merrill


 Same here... I've lurked around some CSS-related newsgroups and even
 some of the die-hard CSS fans still use tables for layout and dress it
 up with CSS.

 I NEVER put in a hack.  NEVER!  I have never needed anything that bad to
 use a hack.

 M!ke

 So I'm very careful with CSS, not to get into having to worry about
 this hack and that workaround ... if tables work easily and display
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[SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions

2005-02-05 Thread Dave Merrill
I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only browser we had
to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have recent IE's
oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm
wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. I'm thinking
about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted
solely to QA.

Specifically...

- Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the browser and
version? How many?

- Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does that actually
help your pages be more universally compatible?

- What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js
capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions?

- It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE installed on
the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually have separate
machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe
even 3? How else can you test?

- Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines?

- For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of
browsers and versions that you need to support?

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RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions

2005-02-05 Thread Dave Merrill
Current windows versions only?

Dave Merrill


 I do all development for FireFox, then fix the little things from IE and 
 NetScape.
 Thats the only ones I deal with honestly.
 
 
 Dave Merrill wrote:
 
 I've been doing intranet work for a while now, where the only 
 browser we had
 to support was the one that came installed on company PCs. Have 
 recent IE's
 oddities pretty well dealt with, but looking at the wider world, I'm
 wondering how folks manage development for multiple browsers. 
 I'm thinking
 about relatively small shops that don't have enormous resources devoted
 solely to QA.
 
 Specifically...
 
 - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the 
 browser and
 version? How many?
 
 - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does 
 that actually
 help your pages be more universally compatible?
 
 - What's an accurate, up to date source of info on html, css, and js
 capabilities and quirks for a lot of different browsers and versions?
 
 - It doesn't appear that you can have multiple versions of IE 
 installed on
 the same machine. If you have to support them, do you actually 
 have separate
 machines whose only purpose is to be equipped with IE 4, 5, and 6, maybe
 even 3? How else can you test?
 
 - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines?
 
 - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of
 browsers and versions that you need to support?
 
 Dave Merrill


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RE: [SOT] Supporting multiple browsers and versions

2005-02-05 Thread Dave Merrill
Thanks for the breakdown Jochem.

It seems like folks aren't paying a lot of attention to macs. Here around
Boston, some biotech companies need mixed platform support, including macs.
Not a lot of linux/unix, at least on the desktop where the browsers live.

Ironically, I used to be a mac-only guy, but haven't owned one for years.

Dave Merrill


 Dave Merrill wrote:
 
  - Do you serve different style sheets or pages depending on the
 browser and
  version? How many?

 No. But I might serve additional ones for certain browsers (IE).


  - Are you coding to W3C standards? Which one(s)? How much does
 that actually
  help your pages be more universally compatible?

 XHTML 1, CSS Level 1 and WCAG 1 are usually in the specs.


  - Do you have mac, linux and pc browser test machines?

 Windows and OpenBSD.


  - For general public sites, what do you consider a reasonable list of
  browsers and versions that you need to support?

 Firefox 1, IE 6 and Lynx 2.8.3.

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cfsetting showDebugOutput?

2005-02-02 Thread Dave Merrill
It appears to me that cfsetting showDebugOutput=true is no longer able to
turn on debug info display. If Enable Debugging is checked in cfadmin, you
see debug output without calling this. If it isn't checked you don't, even
when you do call it; this is different from cf45.

The only effect I see it having is to disable debug output if Enable
Debugging is checked and you pass showDebugOutput=false. I don't see the
point of this. I'm much more likely to want to turn debugs ON locally if
they're globally off, than to disable them locally if they're on.

Am I missing something?

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Changing debug settings with CFML

2005-02-02 Thread Dave Merrill
Somewhere, I think I remember seeing code to add debugging IP addresses
programmatically.

Does that ring a bell with anyone who knows where I could find it? Can you
enable and disable debugging some similar way?

Thanks,

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RE: Restart CFMX with CFML?

2005-01-31 Thread Dave Merrill
I was hopeful that someone had solved this for MX61, but instead I'm
confused. I don't have an 'opt' directory (Windows 2000), and don't find any
files named 'coldfusion.*' that you might be referring to. Is this solution
for unix only? More particulars?

FWIW, we had something for this purpose working in cf45, but it stopped
working when we went from there to mx61. CF would stop, but not restart.

The .bat file we used (with cfexecute) was this, except that we've since
added the ' MX':

-
REM stop all CF services
net stop ColdFusion MX ODBC Agent
net stop ColdFusion MX ODBC Server
net stop ColdFusion MX Application Server
sleep 10
REM start all CF services
net start ColdFusion MX Application Server
net start ColdFusion MX ODBC Server
net start ColdFusion MX ODBC Agent
-

If anyone has any idea how to do this, we'd love to know.

Thanks,

Dave Merrill


 Jon Block wrote:

 |What's the way in which you can restart CFMX service with CFML code
 |natively?
 |
 |Jon
 |
 CFEXECUTE NAME=/opt/coldfusionmx/bin/coldfusion ARGUMENTS=restart

 Note that you must allow whatever user CFMX/Apache is running as
 permissions to execute that command... which opens up a whole new can
 of worms

 Another way to go about it is to have CFMX write to a shell script and
 have that shell script executed by a cron job with the appropriate
 permissions.

 At any rate, it requires a bit of creative thinking, but should be
 possible.

 - --
 Warm regards,
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RE: Restart CFMX with CFML?

2005-01-31 Thread Dave Merrill
Thanks Steven, we'll check this out. Your experience matches ours; it
appears that the .bat stops when CF does, so the restart doesn't happen when
done that straightforward way.

Brook, are you sure this actually restarts CF? I just tried your .bat code
verbatim here, and CF stops, but doesn't restart.

Dave Merrill


 I think that when ColdFusion executes a command or bat file via CFEXECUTE
 the external script stops when ColdFusion stops.  When ColdFusion
 calls the
 bat file below it gets to the part where the jrun.exe process is
 killed, and
 then because the bat file process is child of the jrun process,
 the bat file
 process also dies.  This would stop your server and then never get to the
 part where it restarts.  That's what happens when I run the proposed bat
 file.

 Another solution is to use the Windows AT scheduler service to schedule a
 CFMX stop and a CFMX start in the shortest time in the future as
 possible, 1
 min.  ColdFusion can schedule the stop/start, but Windows will execute the
 commands even if CF is shutdown.

 See this for a cfm script that calls AT to restart the service:
 http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=aliasalias=RestartCFMX

 -Steven Erat


  -Original Message-
  From: Brook Davies
 
  ===
  @echo off
  cls
  REM ==  RESTART CFMX===
  net stop Coldfusion MX Application Server
  c:
  cd \CFUSIONMX\bin
  call C:\CFUSIONMX\bin\cfstop.bat
  c:\winnt\system32\kill -f jrun.exe
  c:\winnt\system32\kill -f jrun.exe
  sleep 2
  REM call C:\CFUSIONMX\bin\cfstart.bat
  net start ColdFusion MX Application Server
  REM ===
  Exit
 
 
 
  At 01:19 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote:
  I was hopeful that someone had solved this for MX61, but instead I'm
  confused. I don't have an 'opt' directory (Windows 2000),
  and don't find any
  files named 'coldfusion.*' that you might be referring to.

 

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RE: Using Coldfusion with XML

2005-01-26 Thread Dave Merrill
Is there really a requirement to go through csv? Why? If the point is to get
the data into a db, what's the reason to pump it through a csv file on the
way? (Assuming that cf has access to the db.)

Am I missing part of your stated needs?

Dave Merrill


 The end point is with the fixed with CSV file being generated and saved
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RE: ColdFusion 5 RDS Visual Source Safe

2005-01-26 Thread Dave Merrill
RDS can use whatever port you define for the web site that serves it and in
the properties of each defined RDS server on the clients. That port does
need to be open in both directions between client and server. Can the
clients bring up a telnet connection to the server on that port? (That'd be
80 if you haven't changed it, maybe 8500 if you're using the built-in MX
server w its defaults.)

Dave Merrill


 RDS uses an HTTP port (80 as far as I'm aware) and routes itself through
 IIS (This is proven when you stop the IIS site with CFIDE in it and RDS
 stops working).

 What you could try is setting up another IP address or domain name (e.g.
 mxbox.myserver.com) and have IIS resolve it, but ONLY allow MX to
 integrate with it by removing all CF5 application configuration (in
 IIS). In homesite or whatever, connect to the new domain name rather
 than the IP of the server. You'll also have to make a virtual directory
 to the MX CFIDE folder too. It ight work.. It might not..

 Does that make sense ?

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RE: CF and Cloudscape/Derby

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Merrill
Marco, do you have any experience using Cloudscape? With CF? If so, any
comments on performance, features, stability? Setup hints for connecting w
CFMX61?

Thanks,

Dave Merrill


 Portable? Or Embeddable? Postgre(30MB RAM space) and MySQL(50MB RAM
 space) may be Portable but Cloudscape(2MB RAM space), HSQLDB, etc are
 a good option for embeddable apps. And yes we're using PG for big apps
 and MySQL for smaller... PG is very very nice...

 Cheers

 Marco


 On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:14:27 -0600, Chuck Mason wrote:
  Robert -
 
  Do you use PostgreSQL as the database for any of your CF apps?  If yes,
  how do you like it?  I'm keeping my eyes open for a good portable
  database to use with CFEverywhere
  (http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=47827DE=1) and intend on playing
  with Cloudscape a bit more (Cloudscape isn't something you jump right
  into without having reviewed the docs).
 
  Cheers!
  Chuck
 
 
  Robert Everland III wrote:
 
  What about PostgreSQL http://www.postgresql.org/ftp/ they just
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RE: CF and Cloudscape/Derby

2005-01-25 Thread Dave Merrill
Thanks Phil.

I'd seen the devx article. One thing I noticed in it was these statements
about admin requirements:

Larger relational DBMS, such as MySQL and Postgres are available today in
open-source form. [snip] they require substantially greater levels of
administrative oversight

As to full commercial databases such as Oracle, DB2, SQL Server, and
Informix, of course, they require significantly more administration

I've worked quite a bit with SQL Server, and while it's clearly more
expensive, especially web licensing, and not small footprint, our admin load
has been roughly zero, other than backup. Data file about 800M and growing,
but not intense throughput, and it's been doing just fine.

Is it other folks' impression that recent versions of SQL Server do
generally need a lot of dba? How about MySQL? The article is clearly
implying that Cloudscape doesn't; is that your impression? That's an
important point for both developers and their clients.

Dave Merrill

 I'm hearing about Cloudscape/Derby as a reasonable database
 alternative to
 MySQL etc. Is anyone here using it? Comments on performance? Scalability?
 Stability? Features?
 

 With Tracking-Tools, I offer it as one of the the supported
 database options (MSSQL, MYSQL, Oracle, and Cloudscape/Derby). It
 works fine for my needs.  For further info on how it stacks up to
 other database options check the FAQs at
 http://philcruz.com/cfeverywhere/


 What's the best way to hook CF up to it?
 

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RE: .net will

2005-01-24 Thread Dave Merrill
Boston's big enough and techie enough that you'd think there'd be an active
user group, wouldn't you? The site listed at MM user groups shows the last
mtg as Oct 20 (year not stated (;-0) ), and I've gotten no response emailing
the listed contact. There's more going on in Python, which, cool though it
may be, isn't exactly the highest profile player.

Surprising. Doesn't speak so well of the health of CF here, I'd say, but
then again, I'm not much for sky-is-falling theories.

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