Re: Stus-List removing portlight sealant

2017-08-25 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
A sharp razor blade works wonders, failing that, high-speed carbide tools..
Bulk removal with chemicals is pointless.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 25 August 2017 at 19:49, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm replacing portlights with VHB taped acrylic. The PO sealed with
> Sudbury Elastomeric Sealant (silicon + polyurethane formulation) and screws
> through the acrylic, which  I've taken off using a multi-tool scraper.  The
> sealant remains a mess -- the heat/friction from the tool seemed to soften
> and smear the black sealant.
>
> I've been trying to source some marine debond or adhesive remover that
> will play nice with fiberglass.  I did find some Xylene based Auto General
> Purpose Adhesive Cleaner (PF600) which looks promising but has a "Warning:
> ... not recommended for fiberglass..."
>
> Any tips for removing the old sealant?
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Jeremy
>   C 34-1 #041
>   Vancouver BC
>
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
Drinks for eight, dinner for four, sleeps two. Works for me.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 25 August 2017 at 18:21, G Collins via CnC-List 
wrote:

> It must be a mid-atlantic thing, we further north know there are a couple
> of non C owners around here that are on the list, but they are good folks
> so not worth the trouble of keelhauling.  Plus Mike is bigger than me.
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>
> On 2017-08-25 5:56 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Jerry,
>
>
>
> You said: “may stop by for the rendezvous.  “
>
>
>
> If they let you… I was threatened by keelhauling, when I admitted that I
> sold my old C 24 and bought a Catalina 270. This list is awesome, but
> some folks are pretty vicious (-;).
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Marek
>
> 1994 c270 Legato
>
> Ottawa, on
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
> *Sent: *Friday, August 25, 2017 10:18
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc: *Jerome Tauber 
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>
>
> I owned a C 24, 29-2 and 27-5.   I just sold my 27-5 and bought a Hunter
> 37.5 1993 with a friend.  We wanted a boat that had two private berths.  He
> is more of a cruiser and I like a performance boat.  We looked at a number
> of boats.  My first choice was a Tartan 372 but we compromised on the
> Hunter.  It had a reputation for being a good sailor and the interior
> volume is enormous for a 37 foot boat.  It has a compromised 5' wing keel.
> I've sailed it all season and can say it is definitely not a C  Off the
> wind and on a broad reach it performs very well but does not point as well
> as a C with a fin. It has a J boat type rig.  Huge mainsail and small
> fractional head sail with a bendy tapered mast.  Sails are old and it needs
> some go fast upgrades such as a backstay adjuster, folding prop and rigid
> vang.  The aft cabin is huge and well ventilated.  And of course the price
> is well below a C of that era.  I'm just across Gardners Bay from
> Greenport and may stop by for the rendezvous.   Jerry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version
> of the C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will
> of course sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.
>
> Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a
> long way from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the
> hot engine. It may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
> On 08/25/2017 07:41 AM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote:
>
> My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C 35-III #11
>
>
> --
> *From:* Dave via CnC-List  
> *To:* schiller 
> 
> *Cc:* davidjaco...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>
> Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our
> Wednesday night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure
> to sail.
>
> My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser".
> So although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the
> boat up for sale in the fall.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Dave J
> Saltaire
> C 35 MK3
> Bristol, RI
>
>
> --
> *From: *"schiller via CnC-List" 
> 
> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc: *"schiller" 
> 
> *Sent: *Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>
> Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat for
> us.  Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the portlights to
> catch the leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break
> with a big rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and
> head door.  Too bad really, it was really a nice layout.
>
> So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone.  We
> will soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I talked with
> the surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has retired but has agreed
> to do an incremental survey.
>
> Neil Schiller
> Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
> Currently "Grace"
> In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Is the mast step 

Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

2017-08-25 Thread ahycrace via CnC-List
Sailing down Narragansett bay a few years ago broad reach 7kts we hear a loud 
BANG and no steering. Get the sails down and anchor. We look under the cockpit 
and see that the idler plate is so rusted that one of the pullys has pulled 
right off. Get the emergency tiller out and attach it motor homea very bad 
day! Check that plate and all of the attached pullys. Edson has all the 
replacements if needed. I have pics of the bad plate before i took it off. I 
can post them when we get home we are in Newport watching the J class boats 
race.  
Gary. "Liberty"  38' Mk ll


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/24/17  10:08 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List wheel squeak 
Richard,Make sure to use a non-petroleum based lubricant for the bearings that 
support the wheel shaft (such as Superlube or other Teflon based grease).  
Don’t squirt WD-40 or any light weight spray  lubricant into the grease holes 
as it will tend to flush any lube out of the nylon caged bearings.  You can 
also check to see if the bearings are worn if you can move the wheel shaft up 
and down, or side to side.  There should be no play in the shaft at all.. Edson 
does sell a “pedestal rebuild kit” that includes bearings, circlips and all the 
other thrust washers and replacement components for the wheel shaft.  If you go 
down that road, I’d also take the time to replace the brake shoes if everything 
else is apart. The other possibility for your squeaky noise is the sheave pins 
(axles) for the bronze idler wheels.  They ride on plain bushings and in the 
“old days” the axles were also bronze, which will wear out eventually and allow 
the sheaves to go flying into the bilge under tension at the worst possible 
time.  If those have never been checked, replaced with stainless pins, or 
lubricated as described in Edson’s steering maintenance instructions, I would 
certainly do so.  Once the sheave pins wear, the sheaves go out of alignment 
and the squeaking you hear may be the axles getting ready to let go.   Finally, 
the Edson Idler plate at the base of the pedestal is generally made of mild 
steel below the deck.  Not terribly subjected to the elements, but they can and 
will eventually start to rust.  Once that happens, sheaves, cable alignments 
and other critical steering components can be affected, so check for a rusty 
idler plate as well as wobbly sheave uprights. Whatever you do, don’t wait for 
it to fail to fix it..  Boats without steering are not safe by any stretch of 
the imagination.  The folks at Edson are very good at walking you through what 
you need and they have data sheets on most every C Steering system they sold 
for our boats.Cheers,Chuck GilchrestS/V Half Magic1983 35 LandfallPadanaram, MA 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak Is it an Edson pedestal?  If so, there are 
two places to squeeze in grease under the compass.  If you look on YouTube 
there are Edson videos on replacing the bearings and they show the grease 
points.   I just did the bearing replacement on my current boat. Joel On Thu, 
Aug 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List  
wrote:Greetings,  The wheel on our 1978 36-footer has always squeaked to 
varying degrees. Anyone found a solution to squeaky wheels? When it comes to 
getting grease, I cannot locate a grease fitting (Zerc). Anyone added one?  
Thank you,Richard s/v INDIGO 
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Stus-List removing portlight sealant

2017-08-25 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Hi All,

I'm replacing portlights with VHB taped acrylic. The PO sealed with
Sudbury Elastomeric Sealant (silicon + polyurethane formulation) and screws
through the acrylic, which  I've taken off using a multi-tool scraper.  The
sealant remains a mess -- the heat/friction from the tool seemed to soften
and smear the black sealant.

I've been trying to source some marine debond or adhesive remover that will
play nice with fiberglass.  I did find some Xylene based Auto General
Purpose Adhesive Cleaner (PF600) which looks promising but has a "Warning:
... not recommended for fiberglass..."

Any tips for removing the old sealant?

Thanks,

  Jeremy
  C 34-1 #041
  Vancouver BC
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
It must be a mid-atlantic thing, we further north know there are a couple of 
non C owners around here that are on the list, but they are good folks so not 
worth the trouble of keelhauling.  Plus Mike is bigger than me.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2017-08-25 5:56 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:
Jerry,

You said: “may stop by for the rendezvous.  “

If they let you… I was threatened by keelhauling, when I admitted that I sold 
my old C 24 and bought a Catalina 270. This list is awesome, but some folks 
are pretty vicious (-;).

Good luck

Marek
1994 c270 Legato
Ottawa, on

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jerome Tauber
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

I owned a C 24, 29-2 and 27-5.   I just sold my 27-5 and bought a Hunter 37.5 
1993 with a friend.  We wanted a boat that had two private berths.  He is more 
of a cruiser and I like a performance boat.  We looked at a number of boats.  
My first choice was a Tartan 372 but we compromised on the Hunter.  It had a 
reputation for being a good sailor and the interior volume is enormous for a 37 
foot boat.  It has a compromised 5' wing keel.  I've sailed it all season and 
can say it is definitely not a C  Off the wind and on a broad reach it 
performs very well but does not point as well as a C with a fin. It has a J 
boat type rig.  Huge mainsail and small fractional head sail with a bendy 
tapered mast.  Sails are old and it needs some go fast upgrades such as a 
backstay adjuster, folding prop and rigid vang.  The aft cabin is huge and well 
ventilated.  And of course the price is well below a C of that era.  I'm just 
across Gardners Bay from Greenport and may stop by for the rendezvous.   Jerry

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> wrote:


If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of the 
C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of course 
sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.

Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long way 
from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the hot engine. It 
may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)


Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

On 08/25/2017 07:41 AM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote:

My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11


From: Dave via CnC-List 
To: schiller 
Cc: davidjaco...@comcast.net; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our Wednesday 
night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure to sail.

My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser". So 
although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the boat up 
for sale in the fall.

Best of luck,

Dave J
Saltaire
C 35 MK3
Bristol, RI



From: "schiller via CnC-List" 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "schiller" 

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat for us.  
Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the portlights to catch the 
leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break with a big 
rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and head door.  Too 
bad really, it was really a nice layout.

So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone.  We will 
soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I talked with the 
surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has retired but has agreed to do an 
incremental survey.

Neil Schiller
Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
Currently "Grace"
In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL




From: Dave S via CnC-List >
To: JP Mail 

Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
This is true, but it is plenty big enough for two or three.  I'm going to stick 
with it...  :-)

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2017-08-25 9:51 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:

If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of the 
C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of course 
sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.

Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long way 
from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the hot engine. It 
may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)


Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

On 08/25/2017 07:41 AM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote:

My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11


From: Dave via CnC-List 
To: schiller 
Cc: davidjaco...@comcast.net; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our Wednesday 
night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure to sail.

My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser". So 
although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the boat up 
for sale in the fall.

Best of luck,

Dave J
Saltaire
C 35 MK3
Bristol, RI



From: "schiller via CnC-List" 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "schiller" 

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat for us.  
Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the portlights to catch the 
leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break with a big 
rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and head door.  Too 
bad really, it was really a nice layout.

So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone.  We will 
soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I talked with the 
surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has retired but has agreed to do an 
incremental survey.

Neil Schiller
Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
Currently "Grace"
In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL




From: Dave S via CnC-List >
To: JP Mail >
Cc: Dave S >; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Do make sure that with the 35-3, that you and your surveyor research then 
examine very closely the keel stub/mast step area.  Several on this list have 
repaired theirs, and a pro repair is an expensive proposition.

Dave
33-2

Sent from my iPhone

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Stus-List Storm Harvey

2017-08-25 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Interesting.  Go here:  https://www.windy.com/?29.310,-94.285,7

Click the "Play" arrow at the bottom.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Recommended Upholsterer for C Mark1?

2017-08-25 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
If you’re replacing settee cushions, make sure whoever you get takes actual 
measurements.  I had an upholsterer make new cushions for my boat, and he used 
the old cushions as templates.  When the new cushions were installed, I 
discovered that they (and the old cushions) were undersized.

From: TL ROSS via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 4:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: TL ROSS 
Subject: Stus-List Recommended Upholsterer for C Mark1?



Hi there - 

Can anyone give me a Recommended Upholsterer for C Mk 1 in the Kingston - 
Toronto - Niagara region? 


Thanks! 
Tracy Ross
C Mk 1
Blue Tango 









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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Jerry,

You said: “may stop by for the rendezvous.  “

If they let you… I was threatened by keelhauling, when I admitted that I sold 
my old C 24 and bought a Catalina 270. This list is awesome, but some folks 
are pretty vicious (-;).

Good luck

Marek
1994 c270 Legato
Ottawa, on

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:18
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jerome Tauber
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

I owned a C 24, 29-2 and 27-5.   I just sold my 27-5 and bought a Hunter 37.5 
1993 with a friend.  We wanted a boat that had two private berths.  He is more 
of a cruiser and I like a performance boat.  We looked at a number of boats.  
My first choice was a Tartan 372 but we compromised on the Hunter.  It had a 
reputation for being a good sailor and the interior volume is enormous for a 37 
foot boat.  It has a compromised 5' wing keel.  I've sailed it all season and 
can say it is definitely not a C  Off the wind and on a broad reach it 
performs very well but does not point as well as a C with a fin. It has a J 
boat type rig.  Huge mainsail and small fractional head sail with a bendy 
tapered mast.  Sails are old and it needs some go fast upgrades such as a 
backstay adjuster, folding prop and rigid vang.  The aft cabin is huge and well 
ventilated.  And of course the price is well below a C of that era.  I'm just 
across Gardners Bay from Greenport and may stop by for the rendezvous.   Jerry

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> wrote:


If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of the 
C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of course 
sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.

Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long way 
from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the hot engine. It 
may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)


Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

On 08/25/2017 07:41 AM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote:

My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11


From: Dave via CnC-List 
To: schiller 
Cc: davidjaco...@comcast.net; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our Wednesday 
night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure to sail.

My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser". So 
although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the boat up 
for sale in the fall.

Best of luck,

Dave J
Saltaire
C 35 MK3
Bristol, RI



From: "schiller via CnC-List" 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "schiller" 

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat for us.  
Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the portlights to catch the 
leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break with a big 
rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and head door.  Too 
bad really, it was really a nice layout.

So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone.  We will 
soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I talked with the 
surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has retired but has agreed to do an 
incremental survey.

Neil Schiller
Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
Currently "Grace"
In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL




From: Dave S via CnC-List >
To: JP Mail >
Cc: Dave S >; 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Do make sure that with the 35-3, that you and your surveyor research then 
examine very 

Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

2017-08-25 Thread Martin Kane via CnC-List
I had the rudder out of my  '83 29-2 last winter. The only metal
bushing/bearing is where the post comes thru the cockpit sole. There was
only minimal wear on mine so I didn't replace it. The fit between the rudder
post and fibreglass rudder tube is tight and there is no stuffing box like
on the prop shaft. There is just a tube which acts as a long
bushing/bearing. If the grease in the tube has gone hard, then injecting
fresh won't clear out the old grease. If you decide to drop the rudder be
careful as it is only held in place by the two set screws in collar that
sits on top of the post. I'd guess it weighs about a 100lbs and doesn't
really have any good hand holds. So not that easy to work with. When the
boat on the hard I can move the rudder from stop to stop with the pressure
from one finger. 

 

Martin 

29-2 Recalculating

 

From: Bruce Pope [mailto:brucep...@live.ca] 
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

 

Hello.

 

On a similar note

The wheel on my 1986 29-2 has been stiff since purchase 3 years ago.I
have lube'd everything in the steering system that was recommended by folks
on this list including pumping fresh waterproof grease into the rudder post
stuffing box thru a zerk fitting (with old grease pushing out of the top).
I read a post some time ago indicating that there is likely a bushing at the
top of the rudder post where it enters the cockpit sole - at the emergency
tiller steering unit.  Wondering if anyone knows whether the 80's vintage
C 29-2's also have  bushing/bearings down in the rudder post stuffing box
?If yes,  also wondering if anyone knows where I can get replacement
bushings or will I have to get someone to make them?

I am borrowing a trailer to haul the boat and on a pretty tight time
schedule so would like to have parts in hand before I haul.

Thanks.

 

Bruce

1986 29-2

Gyrfalcon

Kootenay Lake, BC

 

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Stus-List Recommended Upholsterer for C Mark1?

2017-08-25 Thread TL ROSS via CnC-List





Hi there - 
Can anyone give me a Recommended Upholsterer for C Mk 1 in the Kingston - 
Toronto - Niagara region? 
Thanks! Tracy RossC Mk 1Blue Tango 


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Re: Stus-List wheel squeak

2017-08-25 Thread Bruce Pope via CnC-List
Hello.


On a similar note

The wheel on my 1986 29-2 has been stiff since purchase 3 years ago.I have 
lube'd everything in the steering system that was recommended by folks on this 
list including pumping fresh waterproof grease into the rudder post stuffing 
box thru a zerk fitting (with old grease pushing out of the top).   I read a 
post some time ago indicating that there is likely a bushing at the top of the 
rudder post where it enters the cockpit sole - at the emergency tiller steering 
unit.  Wondering if anyone knows whether the 80's vintage C 29-2's also have  
bushing/bearings down in the rudder post stuffing box ?If yes,  also 
wondering if anyone knows where I can get replacement bushings or will I have 
to get someone to make them?

I am borrowing a trailer to haul the boat and on a pretty tight time schedule 
so would like to have parts in hand before I haul.

Thanks.


Bruce

1986 29-2

Gyrfalcon

Kootenay Lake, BC

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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Richard via CnC-List
A couple of years ago I was boat shopping for a 35-3 and looked at several; 
fell in love with every one of them; but for one thing or another, a deal never 
happened, then I came upon a 37 in Newburyport MA and things clicked; so now I 
consider that I have a "big" 35-3...!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> One worthwhile addition to a 35/3:  I ran a piece of 1 inch SS tubing from 
> the mast back to the pole that is forward of the steps using bimini fittings 
> so there was a centerline handrail from the galley to the mast.
> 
> Joel
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I agree with Rick's comments.  We were out on a friend's Catalina 42 last 
>> weekend, and while it was clearly voluminous down below, the lack of 
>> handholds was very noticeable.  His is probably a late-80s, early 90's boat. 
>>  
>> 
>> That said, I wasn't going to say anything... :)  
>>  
>> Bruce Whitmore
>> 
>> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
>> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
>> From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Rick Brass 
>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>> 
>> I have to agree with Joe about the interior volume of the CatBenHun boats. 
>> Wide beam carried well aft on the newer designs makes for lots of interior 
>> room. Much more than on any of the boats designed in the 1980s.
>>  
>> That said, none of the newer Catalinas or Hunters I’ve been aboard (which 
>> includes several models from 33 to about 45 feet) seem to be set up as good 
>> sea boats. Few hand holds, few fiddles, big spaces between the cabinets. A 
>> local Catalina 42 Mk2 owner has stopped taking his boat out on Pamlico Sound 
>> when the wind is forecast to be above 15 knots because he and his wife were 
>> tired of getting uncomfortable and bouncing around the interior when 
>> underweigh. (The Sound averages only about 20 feet deep and develops a 
>> significant, short chop at 20 knots and above. A Donzi 33 came into my 
>> marina yesterday from across the Sound; they said they had to turn back 
>> twice because of the chop, and it was blowing 8 to 12.)
>>  
>> I suspect the better description of the boats I’ve been aboard would be 
>> “Dock Condo” instead of “Cruising Boat”.
>>  
>> Rick Brass
>> Washington, NC
>>  
>>  
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della 
>> Barba via CnC-List
>> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 8:51 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Joe Della Barba 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>>  
>> If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of 
>> the C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of 
>> course sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.
>> Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long 
>> way from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the hot 
>> engine. It may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)
>>  
>> Joe
>> Coquina
>> C 35 MK I
>>  
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Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Daniel Dickinson via CnC-List

This forum is awesome. Thanks everyone for weighing in on the 83 mk3 purchase. 
Your posts have lessened my concerns and we hope to be living aboard in a week. 
Fingers crossed on the survey.   I hope all goes well for the other fellow 
currently buying a mk3 too. 

-Dan

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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
One worthwhile addition to a 35/3:  I ran a piece of 1 inch SS tubing from
the mast back to the pole that is forward of the steps using bimini
fittings so there was a centerline handrail from the galley to the mast.

Joel

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I agree with Rick's comments.  We were out on a friend's Catalina 42 last
> weekend, and while it was clearly voluminous down below, the lack of
> handholds was very noticeable.  His is probably a late-80s, early 90's
> boat.
>
> That said, I wasn't going to say anything... :)
>
> Bruce Whitmore
>
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>
>
> --
> *From:* Rick Brass via CnC-List 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Rick Brass 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 10:25 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>
> I have to agree with Joe about the interior volume of the CatBenHun boats.
> Wide beam carried well aft on the newer designs makes for lots of interior
> room. Much more than on any of the boats designed in the 1980s.
>
> That said, none of the newer Catalinas or Hunters I’ve been aboard (which
> includes several models from 33 to about 45 feet) seem to be set up as good
> sea boats. Few hand holds, few fiddles, big spaces between the cabinets. A
> local Catalina 42 Mk2 owner has stopped taking his boat out on Pamlico
> Sound when the wind is forecast to be above 15 knots because he and his
> wife were tired of getting uncomfortable and bouncing around the interior
> when underweigh. (The Sound averages only about 20 feet deep and develops a
> significant, short chop at 20 knots and above. A Donzi 33 came into my
> marina yesterday from across the Sound; they said they had to turn back
> twice because of the chop, and it was blowing 8 to 12.)
>
> I suspect the better description of the boats I’ve been aboard would be
> “Dock Condo” instead of “Cruising Boat”.
>
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Della Barba via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, August 25, 2017 8:51 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joe Della Barba 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>
> If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version
> of the C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will
> of course sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.
> Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a
> long way from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the
> hot engine. It may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)
>
> Joe
> Coquina
> C 35 MK I
>
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
I agree with Rick's comments.  We were out on a friend's Catalina 42 last 
weekend, and while it was clearly voluminous down below, the lack of handholds 
was very noticeable.  His is probably a late-80s, early 90's boat.  

That said, I wasn't going to say anything... :)  
 Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


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Cc: Rick Brass 
 Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 10:25 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
   
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{}#yiv4979407916 I have to agree with Joe about the interior volume of the 
CatBenHun boats. Wide beam carried well aft on the newer designs makes for lots 
of interior room. Much more than on any of the boats designed in the 1980s.  
That said, none of the newer Catalinas or Hunters I’ve been aboard (which 
includes several models from 33 to about 45 feet) seem to be set up as good sea 
boats. Few hand holds, few fiddles, big spaces between the cabinets. A local 
Catalina 42 Mk2 owner has stopped taking his boat out on Pamlico Sound when the 
wind is forecast to be above 15 knots because he and his wife were tired of 
getting uncomfortable and bouncing around the interior when underweigh. (The 
Sound averages only about 20 feet deep and develops a significant, short chop 
at 20 knots and above. A Donzi 33 came into my marina yesterday from across the 
Sound; they said they had to turn back twice because of the chop, and it was 
blowing 8 to 12.)  I suspect the better description of the boats I’ve been 
aboard would be “Dock Condo” instead of “Cruising Boat”.  Rick BrassWashington, 
NC    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Della Barba via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 8:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase  If you look at any 
recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of the C 35 is going to 
seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of course sail 10x better, 
but that does not always matter to some people.Warning - the "have to have it" 
aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long way from the air coming down the 
forward hatch and right next to the hot engine. It may not be the cruising 
paradise your wife thinks it is ;)  JoeCoquinaC 35 MK I  
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Chuck Saur via CnC-List
Wow...almost missed a chance to brag about my boat?!!  I've been trying to
cruise the Grand Traverse area of Lake Michigan, and got weathered in.
Heading to Charlevoix tomorrow, then hopefully home to St Ignace.   Great
week if it were October!!

My 35-3 is a 1985, and just love the boat.  Never a problem, until now.
Check the rear shaft seal on the transmission.  Mine developed a leak, and
although no apparent damage, need to have it fixed.  Apparently a potential
issue on 30+ year old boats, so check engine oil and tranny levels and in
the bilge for drips!  This is a boat that draws admiring dockwalkers
wherever we go, and even once had a ziplock bag with a "I would like to
purchase if for sale" note inside!   Never before had an issue with
anything mechanical or rig, but consistently upgrading helps.
Congratulations on your boat purchase(s).


*Chuck Saur*

​Morning Sky
C 35-3 (1985)
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I have to agree with Joe about the interior volume of the CatBenHun boats.
Wide beam carried well aft on the newer designs makes for lots of interior
room. Much more than on any of the boats designed in the 1980s.

 

That said, none of the newer Catalinas or Hunters I've been aboard (which
includes several models from 33 to about 45 feet) seem to be set up as good
sea boats. Few hand holds, few fiddles, big spaces between the cabinets. A
local Catalina 42 Mk2 owner has stopped taking his boat out on Pamlico Sound
when the wind is forecast to be above 15 knots because he and his wife were
tired of getting uncomfortable and bouncing around the interior when
underweigh. (The Sound averages only about 20 feet deep and develops a
significant, short chop at 20 knots and above. A Donzi 33 came into my
marina yesterday from across the Sound; they said they had to turn back
twice because of the chop, and it was blowing 8 to 12.)

 

I suspect the better description of the boats I've been aboard would be
"Dock Condo" instead of "Cruising Boat".

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della
Barba via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 8:51 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

 

If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of
the C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of
course sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.

Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long
way from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the hot
engine. It may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)

 

Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I

 

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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
I owned a C 24, 29-2 and 27-5.   I just sold my 27-5 and bought a Hunter 37.5 
1993 with a friend.  We wanted a boat that had two private berths.  He is more 
of a cruiser and I like a performance boat.  We looked at a number of boats.  
My first choice was a Tartan 372 but we compromised on the Hunter.  It had a 
reputation for being a good sailor and the interior volume is enormous for a 37 
foot boat.  It has a compromised 5' wing keel.  I've sailed it all season and 
can say it is definitely not a C  Off the wind and on a broad reach it 
performs very well but does not point as well as a C with a fin. It has a J 
boat type rig.  Huge mainsail and small fractional head sail with a bendy 
tapered mast.  Sails are old and it needs some go fast upgrades such as a 
backstay adjuster, folding prop and rigid vang.  The aft cabin is huge and well 
ventilated.  And of course the price is well below a C of that era.  I'm just 
across Gardners Bay from Greenport and may stop by for the rendezvous.   Jerry 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version of 
> the C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s will of 
> course sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some people.
> 
> Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a long 
> way from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to the hot 
> engine. It may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it is ;)
> 
> 
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
> C 35 MK I
> 
>> On 08/25/2017 07:41 AM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote:
>> My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?
>> Graham Collins
>> Secret Plans
>> C 35-III #11
>>> 
>>> From: Dave via CnC-List 
>>> To: schiller  
>>> Cc: davidjaco...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>>> 
>>> Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our 
>>> Wednesday night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure 
>>> to sail.
>>> 
>>> My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser". 
>>> So although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the 
>>> boat up for sale in the fall.
>>> 
>>> Best of luck,
>>> 
>>> Dave J
>>> Saltaire
>>> C 35 MK3
>>> Bristol, RI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "schiller via CnC-List" 
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Cc: "schiller" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>>> 
>>> Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat for 
>>> us.  Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the portlights to 
>>> catch the leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break 
>>> with a big rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and 
>>> head door.  Too bad really, it was really a nice layout.
>>> 
>>> So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone.  We 
>>> will soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I talked with 
>>> the surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has retired but has agreed 
>>> to do an incremental survey.
>>> 
>>> Neil Schiller
>>> Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
>>> Currently "Grace"
>>> In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1?
>>> Ron
>>> Wild Cheri
>>> C 30-1
>>> STL
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Dave S via CnC-List 
>>> To: JP Mail  
>>> Cc: Dave S ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase
>>> 
>>> Do make sure that with the 35-3, that you and your surveyor research then 
>>> examine very closely the keel stub/mast step area.  Several on this list 
>>> have repaired theirs, and a pro repair is an expensive proposition.
>>> 
>>> Dave 
>>> 33-2
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Dave via CnC-List
I think her biggest gripe is that it's not a Tartan 40 or better yet a trawler. 

- Original Message -

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Cc: "G Collins"  
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:41:43 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase 



My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies? 
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11 





From: Dave via CnC-List  
To: schiller  
Cc: davidjaco...@comcast.net ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase 

Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our Wednesday 
night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure to sail. 

My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser". So 
although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the boat up 
for sale in the fall. 

Best of luck, 

Dave J 
Saltaire 
C 35 MK3 
Bristol, RI 



From: "schiller via CnC-List"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "schiller"  
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase 

Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32. Not the boat for us. 
Interior has not been taken care of. Buckets under the portlights to catch the 
leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break with a big 
rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and head door. Too 
bad really, it was really a nice layout. 

So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone. We will 
soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III. I talked with the surveyor 
that did the previous survey. He has retired but has agreed to do an 
incremental survey. 

Neil Schiller 
Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III 
Currently "Grace" 
In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan 

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On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 




Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1? 
Ron 
Wild Cheri 
C 30-1 
STL 




From: Dave S via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > 
To: JP Mail < jon.peterpr...@gmail.com > 
Cc: Dave S < syerd...@gmail.com >; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:26 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase 

Do make sure that with the 35-3, that you and your surveyor research then 
examine very closely the keel stub/mast step area. Several on this list have 
repaired theirs, and a pro repair is an expensive proposition. 

Dave 
33-2 

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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
If you look at any recent CatBenHun in the 34-36 foot range, any version 
of the C 35 is going to seem quite small and cramped. Any of the 35s 
will of course sail 10x better, but that does not always matter to some 
people.


Warning - the "have to have it" aft double bunk under the cockpit is a 
long way from the air coming down the forward hatch and right next to 
the hot engine. It may not be the cruising paradise your wife thinks it 
is ;)



Joe

Coquina

C 35 MK I


On 08/25/2017 07:41 AM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote:


My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11



*From:* Dave via CnC-List 
*To:* schiller 
*Cc:* davidjaco...@comcast.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our 
Wednesday night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a 
pleasure to sail.


My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a 
"cruiser". So although this will be a very hard decision for me I may 
be putting the boat up for sale in the fall.


Best of luck,

Dave J
Saltaire
C 35 MK3
Bristol, RI



*From: *"schiller via CnC-List" 
*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc: *"schiller" 
*Sent: *Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat 
for us.  Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the 
portlights to catch the leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks 
like it might break with a big rain drop, floor so bad that it was 
mushy in front the mast and head door.  Too bad really, it was really 
a nice layout.


So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone. 
 We will soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I 
talked with the surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has 
retired but has agreed to do an incremental survey.


Neil Schiller
Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
Currently "Grace"
In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> wrote:


Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL




*From:* Dave S via CnC-List >
**To:** JP Mail >
*Cc:* Dave S >;
cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:26 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Do make sure that with the 35-3, that you and your surveyor
research then examine very closely the keel stub/mast step area.
 Several on this list have repaired theirs, and a pro repair is
an expensive proposition.

Dave
33-2

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Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

2017-08-25 Thread G Collins via CnC-List
My wife and I love cruising our 35-3, what do you see as deficiencies?

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11


From: Dave via CnC-List 
To: schiller 
Cc: davidjaco...@comcast.net; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Congrats on the C 35 MK3. I own a 1984 MK3, am in 1st place in our Wednesday 
night racing series and enjoy the boat immensely. It's a pleasure to sail.

My wife, the boss doesn't race and would like to have more of a "cruiser". So 
although this will be a very hard decision for me I may be putting the boat up 
for sale in the fall.

Best of luck,

Dave J
Saltaire
C 35 MK3
Bristol, RI



From: "schiller via CnC-List" 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "schiller" 

Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 2:21:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Well, we went to Charlevoix to look at the 1981 C 32.  Not the boat for us.  
Interior has not been taken care of.  Buckets under the portlights to catch the 
leaks, forward hatch so crazed that it looks like it might break with a big 
rain drop, floor so bad that it was mushy in front the mast and head door.  Too 
bad really, it was really a nice layout.

So, called the owner of the 35 and negotiated a deal over the phone.  We will 
soon be the proud owners of a 1983 C 35, Mark III.  I talked with the 
surveyor that did the previous survey.  He has retired but has agreed to do an 
incremental survey.

Neil Schiller
Soon to be 1983 C 35, Mark III
Currently "Grace"
In Muskegon to be relocated to White Lake, Michigan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:45 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> wrote:

Is the mast step a more difficult repair than on the 30-1?
Ron
Wild Cheri
C 30-1
STL




From: Dave S via CnC-List >
To: JP Mail >
Cc: Dave S >; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 C 35 mark 3 new purchase

Do make sure that with the 35-3, that you and your surveyor research then 
examine very closely the keel stub/mast step area.  Several on this list have 
repaired theirs, and a pro repair is an expensive proposition.

Dave
33-2

Sent from my iPhone

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