Re: Stus-List Preventer

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How can I stop getting everybodys e-mail?


On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
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> Exactly my point.
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:07 AM, robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>> I can't imagine how it is possible to inflict the damage you described
>> Dennis hoisting the main...I can see how it can be done with an
>> accidental gybe in heavy air.
>>
>> I don't think the Catalina owner was forthright!
>>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-04-13 10:56 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>>> A couple years ago, I was ask to repair a Catalina 30.  Job scope
>>> revealed a main sheet winch (self tailing) ripped off the cabin top, a
>>> broken shackle holding the main sheet to the traveler car and a damaged
>>> gooseneck.  Owner told me his crew had gotten a bit enthusiatic about
>>> hoisting the main with the winch.
>>>
>>> H...I wonder.  They'd been out in some stiff winds on the weekend.
>>> I'm guessing they had the main sheet stopped with the winch rather than the
>>> rope clutch and took an accidental jibe.
>>>
>>> What do you think?  :)
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>>> Mandeville, LA
>>>
>>>
>>
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Stus-List Mertec folding prop removal

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I have a C 30 MK1 “675”  It has a 2GM20F with a folding Mertec prop.  I’m 
trying to remove it. I have the blades off and there is a collar that has a 3/8 
square drive showing. 
My question is how do I get the rest of the prop off to install my new Cambel 
sailprop. 
Thanks for your help
Capt, Curtis

(2) - Blades 
(1) - Hub
(1) - Monel Pivot Pin
(1) - Key
(4) - Monel Cotter Pins
(1) – Nut



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Re: Stus-List Sail loft service

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ow to
>> get them.  They also had me take as high a definition photo from the side
>> of the boat, fully rigged and used that, scaled it and double checked all
>> of my measurments to the scaled photo.  Scaling a photo can be surprisingly
>> accurate.  I do this to study existing spaces all the time and there are
>> plenty of software that allow you to calibrate the photo and take
>> measurements.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, the real test will not come for a couple of months.  I did
>> feel there was some room for interpolation as, I don't race.  I'm  not
>> overly fussy when it comes to sail shape.  If she isn't luffing and the
>> tell tales seem to be doing what they should, I'm happy as long as the boat
>> is moving along.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a bit concerned about spreader patches, they just send stick on
>> patches.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: "C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail loft service
>> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:48:07 -0500
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> I am curious as to the measurement process.  What did you measure and how
>> did you know how/what to measure.
>>
>> While watching my loft take measurements for the headsail, I was shocked
>> at the different measurements he took.  Each spreader, radar, babystay.
>> Those are just a few which I would have trouble describing let alone
>> understanding the measurement desired.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
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Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail

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Well I was quoted from 3 sail maker's they all within $500. of each other? 5.6 
dacron triple stitch. I have money to spend the $2,400. But why would I?  Maybe 
I'm missing something?


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2/24/2016  8:22 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul Baker 
<pjbake...@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail 
Curtis, I think you perhaps have an unrealistic expectation of the cost of a 
sail, even from a cheap far east/offshore manufacturer.  The sails are almost 
all using US made cloth, and with the USD being fairly strong, that's a big 
chunk of extra cost there. Maybe a decent used sail might be an option for you?
Cheers,
Paul. 

Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:24:55 -0500
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail
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Wow. I was quoted $1,800. I that that was too much. 


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<djhaug...@juno.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail 
Hi Andy,
 
Thank Joel!!
 
Correction I got the 
Challenge Marblehead / Fibre 104 Dacron
the sail, delivered was $3555 and they broke it into 3 payments for me.  From 
the completion of design to the delivery was 2 weeks!
 
I'm going to unroll it along side the rolly tasker tonight and take some photos.
 
Danny


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:34:56 -0500






How much was it, Danny?


Andy
C 40
Peregrine


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


Hello all,


I just received my new head sail from Precision sail loft last night!  I'll be 
unrolling it tonight to have a first look.  I took a chance to order online 
from this Canadian based company.  The sail was built in Sri Lanka from what I 
can tell.  I ordered the Challenge High Modulus Dacron.
 
My question is, what should I be looking for as I inspect the new sail?  I plan 
on comparing the old Rolly Tasker head sail and the relatively new seeming 
Main.  Other than that, I don't really know enough about sails to know if I got 
what I paid for.  I'll probably unroll it and snap a bunch of pics if anyone 
would be interested.
 
Thanks for any insights and advice you may be able to offer.
 
Danny
T40
Rum Runner IV
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail

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Wow. I was quoted $1,800. I that that was too much. 


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 Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail 
Hi Andy,
 
Thank Joel!!
 
Correction I got the 
Challenge Marblehead / Fibre 104 Dacron
the sail, delivered was $3555 and they broke it into 3 payments for me.  From 
the completion of design to the delivery was 2 weeks!
 
I'm going to unroll it along side the rolly tasker tonight and take some photos.
 
Danny


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:34:56 -0500





How much was it, Danny?


Andy
C 40
Peregrine


On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:30 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Hello all,


I just received my new head sail from Precision sail loft last night!  I'll be 
unrolling it tonight to have a first look.  I took a chance to order online 
from this Canadian based company.  The sail was built in Sri Lanka from what I 
can tell.  I ordered the Challenge High Modulus Dacron.
 
My question is, what should I be looking for as I inspect the new sail?  I plan 
on comparing the old Rolly Tasker head sail and the relatively new seeming 
Main.  Other than that, I don't really know enough about sails to know if I got 
what I paid for.  I'll probably unroll it and snap a bunch of pics if anyone 
would be interested.
 
Thanks for any insights and advice you may be able to offer.
 
Danny
T40
Rum Runner IV
Mattapoisett, MA

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Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail

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I'm in the process of buying a new head sail 135%as well. How much if you don't 
mind.


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 Subject: Stus-List  Got a New 135% Head Sail 
Hello all,


I just received my new head sail from Precision sail loft last night!  I'll be 
unrolling it tonight to have a first look.  I took a chance to order online 
from this Canadian based company.  The sail was built in Sri Lanka from what I 
can tell.  I ordered the Challenge High Modulus Dacron.
 
My question is, what should I be looking for as I inspect the new sail?  I plan 
on comparing the old Rolly Tasker head sail and the relatively new seeming 
Main.  Other than that, I don't really know enough about sails to know if I got 
what I paid for.  I'll probably unroll it and snap a bunch of pics if anyone 
would be interested.
 
Thanks for any insights and advice you may be able to offer.
 
Danny
T40
Rum Runner IV
Mattapoisett, MA
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Re: Stus-List Racing a 30-1

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Real good questions. from what I gather fewer sometimes is better. That
being said I don't think the driver should anything but drive and direct
positions.
The tactician needs to focus. he can lose the race by simple missing a
start or a mark.

Racing:

   - Captain/Helm - overall commander and drives boat
   - Tactician - Usually next to captain. Decides course and calls manuvers
   - Mainsail Trimmer - Often the captain will handle this on a very small
   boat. Trims main.
   - Headsail trimmers - Trim and tack headsail. Often trim spinnaker too
   - Pit - On small boats often done by trimmers. controls hallyards and
   topping lift and downhaul
   - Mast - Jumps sails and handles spinnaker pole on symmetrical spinnaker
   boats
   - Bow - The poor bastard who rigs headsails, skirts headsails and is
   generally yelled at by everyone. Most important person on boat.



The ones in blue you can do without. If you are furled on your head-sail or
not,  you still need the position.

Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

Capt, Curtis McDaniel

Dataw Island Marina

Harbor Master



On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
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> Hi All,
>
> I'd welcome any opinions you might like to share on racing a 30-1.  As
> mentioned in the other thread on handicapping JAM boats, I have a choice of
> racing my (new to me) 30-1 in a spinnaker boat division or a non-spinnaker
> boat division (my boat is rigged for spinnaker).  We have ten-week series
> in my club, and I'd have to stay in one division for a whole series (but
> could switch divisions between series).  We also have occasional one and
> two-day weekend races in which I'd have to choose a division.
>
> From what I see in
> http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf,
> it looks like a 30-1 usually gets a PHRF rating of 174, which would be the
> third-lowest rating in my club.  We've got a Capri-25 at 173, and an F-240s
> at 170.
>
> One of my questions is how many crew are advisable for racing a 30-1, with
> spinnaker or without.  On smaller boats (Capri-22s, J/22s, Merit 25s) we'd
> race and fly spinnaker with three crew - helm, trimmer, and foredeck.  A
> fourth could come in handy in heavy air.  I've gotten a couple indications
> that I should have maybe twice that number for a 30-1.  What are the
> typical crew positions on a 30-1?  If it makes any difference, my
> spinnakers have dousing socks.
>
> I race on a lake in Colorado.  The spinnaker division courses are upwind /
> downwind, and the non-spinnaker division courses are triangles.  We
> generally try to set courses so that races last 60-90 minutes.
> Weather-wise we have varied conditions from night to night.  Some nights
> are frickin' gusty, with Colorado afternoon and evening thunderstorms.
> Some nights are light air and we run out of beer before finishing :)
>  Several times a year we get really good conditions - a steady 15-20 kt.
> breeze in which everyone's at hull speed and and trying to stay in control
> and / or reduce weather helm.  Sea state is not really an issue, except for
> some powerboat wake and chop.
>
> If there were more light-air nights in a series than heavy-air nights,
> would a 30-1 perform better against its PRHF on a triangle course, or on an
> upwind / downwind course?  How many crew (some experienced, some not, all
> still reasonably agile) are needed to handle a 30-1 safely under spinnaker
> in gusty or heavy-air conditions?
>
> Thanks in advance for any opinions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30 MK1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?

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On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
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> I’ve never heard of a marina getting discounted pricing on a sail – is
> that common?
>
> Seems like that would complicate their life, what with adjustments,
> measurements, etc.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jack
> Fitzgerald via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:33 PM
> *To:* C
> *Cc:* Jack Fitzgerald
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?
>
>
>
> I suspect "wholesale"
>
>
>
> Jack Fitzgerald
>
> HONEY
> C 39TM
> Savannah, GA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'm confused.  What is a "marina perspective"?
>
> Dennis C.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Curtis via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I needed a price from a marina perspective.
>
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Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?

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Its customary, here in the south, that if you own / run or manage a Marina.
Vendors offer a substantial discount given the fact that I have 28 to 30
Sailboats berthing here.

?


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> I'm confused.  What is a "marina perspective"?
>
> Dennis C.
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Curtis via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> I needed a price from a marina perspective.
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Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?

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Thanks for the information.
Leitch& McBride was around $500.USD  Higher then the nearest competitor.
 (Retail)
I needed a price from a marina perspective.
However they got a quote out very quick.


Thanks again

Capt, Curtis McDaniel

Dataw Island Marina

Harbor Master

470-313-0918

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>
> Hi Curtis,
>
> the name of the loft was in Fred's message.
>
> here they are: http://www.leitchandmcbride.com/
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
> Vancouver Island
>
>
>
> At 07:34 PM 20/02/2016, you wrote:
>
> So maybe if I buy sail and furler from same shop I may cam get a deal I
> need the name of the shop. Thanx
> On Feb 20, 2016 8:43 PM, "Peter Fell via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> Yup.
> Â
> Sails are made locally or in a US-based loft ... not offshore.
> Â
> Furlex dealer too if I’m not mistaken.
> Â
> From: Jim Watts via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 4:27 PM
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?
> Â
> Very good loft.
> Â
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
> C 35 Mk III
> Victoria, BC
> Â
> On 20 February 2016 at 15:59, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Leitch & McBride.  250 656 0751 <250%20656%200751>
>
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Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?

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So maybe if I buy sail and furler from same shop I may cam get a deal I
need the name of the shop. Thanx
On Feb 20, 2016 8:43 PM, "Peter Fell via CnC-List" 
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> Yup.
>
> Sails are made locally or in a US-based loft ... not offshore.
>
> Furlex dealer too if I’m not mistaken.
>
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> *Sent:* Saturday, February 20, 2016 4:27 PM
> *To:* 1 CnC List 
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> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?
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> Very good loft.
>
> Jim Watts
> Paradigm Shift
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> Victoria, BC
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> On 20 February 2016 at 15:59, Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <
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>> Leitch & McBride.  250 656 0751 <250%20656%200751>
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Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?

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Company name?  Number?


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original 
message From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 
2/20/2016  4:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard 
<fshazz...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List New sail for the roller furler? 
Curtis,  I just a sail in Victoria, BC at 70 cents on the dollar.
Fred Hazzard

S/V Fury

C 44

Portland Oregon
On Feb 20, 2016 1:31 PM, "Russ & Melody via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Hey Capt', 


Do have any non-conforming liveaboards or moored boats with a lapse in
insurance requirements? Those owners good be your best source of a good
deal, if ya know what I mean.


Cheers,
Russ

Sweet
35 mk-1

Vancouver
Island


"No sir, I don't live here. I'm staying aboard the boat just
now."  :)




At 11:31 AM 20/02/2016, you wrote:

I'm shopping for a new head sail
%135 with foam. 

I also need a furler. 

Being a Manager / Harbor Master, Â any idea or wisdom on what to
buy?

I need a good deal.


 

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Harbor Master


470-313-0918


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Stus-List New sail for the roller furler?

[Curtis via CnC-List]

I'm shopping for a new head sail %135 with foam.
I also need a furler.
Being a Manager / Harbor Master,  any idea or wisdom on what to buy?
I need a good deal.


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Stus-List Furler for my C MK1

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I am the Harbor Master For a marina here in the Low-Country of South
Carolina, I was hoping someone could share with me a contact name and
number for a Furler dealer. I was hoping to get a discount for advertising
their product line in my marina?

Second part, or question can you share some advise on the brand furler you
have had good luck with or better yet any horor stories on the one I should
not get for my boat? Thanks for your input.


I will be buying a new Scott sail designed for a furler %135



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Stus-List New roller furler

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So I asked for help a little while back thanks a bunch it was very helpful.

I have a new problem. I measured the Head stay by pulling up a line with my
halyard to the top.
Then I measures the line. it was 39, 6"  the book tells me a approx length?
My Boat is hin# 675
Thank you. "I just need to know the forstay length to order the Furler"

*Est. Forestay Length.:* 41.27' / 12.58m




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didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List Bottom paint help needed

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Thanksfor all the advise.

 I will purchase 2 gallons. Its what The yard put on last time and it did
well. I will use Ultra again.

The yard did it last time. I am going to save on the labor this time and
DYI.

Just not sure if a light sand will be suffice.I will heavy on the leading
edges and the Fin Rudder. The rudder always seams to have a beard.


Thanks John But I live in Beaufort South Carolina.


Thanks again Guys.




Interlux Ultra Antifouling Paint

Hard, Durable Finish with Biolux Slime-Blocking Technology

Fast-Drying, High Solids / Low Emissions Formula Provides Excellent Coverage

Size: Gallon, Select Color, Original Formula Containing Irgarol

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> Curtis
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>
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> Where are you located?  I have a half gallon or so of Ultra for discounted
> price if you are local
>
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>
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> John and Maryann
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> 1982 C 34
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> Noank, CT
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> *Subject:* Stus-List Bottom paint help needed
>
>
>
> Interlux Ultra with Biolux. How much paint should I need to paint my C
> 30 MK1 with 2 coats?
>
> 30 foot long and 10 foot beam?
>
>
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> didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
> from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
> Discover.  -Mark Twain
> http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/
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Re: Stus-List Bottom paint help needed

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Thanx Ron. Sounds like my plan
On Jan 10, 2016 1:05 PM, "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List" <
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> Curtis,
> I wet sand with one of those abrasive sponges so that I smooth out the old
> paint and take off the surface crud.  Keeps dust down and does a good
> cleaning job.  You have to let it dry of course, but the next coat adheres
> well.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
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> STL
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> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:17 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Bottom paint help needed
>
> Thanksfor all the advise.
>  I will purchase 2 gallons. Its what The yard put on last time and it did
> well. I will use Ultra again.
> The yard did it last time. I am going to save on the labor this time and
> DYI.
> Just not sure if a light sand will be suffice.I will heavy on the leading
> edges and the Fin Rudder. The rudder always seams to have a beard.
>
> Thanks John But I live in Beaufort South Carolina.
>
> Thanks again Guys.
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Stus-List Bottom paint help needed

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Interlux Ultra with Biolux. How much paint should I need to paint my C 30
MK1 with 2 coats?
30 foot long and 10 foot beam?

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Stus-List Furler system

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I have the approval from the admiral to purchase a new sail and furler
system for my C  1981 1/4 ss wire

Any advise on how or what to buy? I have no Idea how to proceed. I have a
115% 135% and a 170%. all hank on sails. I have a asymmetrical in a sock as
well.

My budget needs to be around or below $4, to 5 grand.

I'm looking for advise on the complete package.

1) can I install it?

2) how do I know what to buy? I sail local with fun club racing?

3) my sails are all from the 1980's and 1990's? Throw them out and buy new?

3) Asy furler?

Thanks for your help



Capt,Curtis McDaniel



Dataw island Marina

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Re: Stus-List Furler system

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I have mostly light winds here in Beaufort SC.
So out to 150% or at least a 135% would be best.
But, Can I install it? do I keep my forstay?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Congrats!
> My 2 cents:
>
> 15 - 25 year old sails are shot.  I don't know what your wind conditions
> are like, but I would buy a Harken furler and a good Dacron sail that
> covers most of your wind conditions.Partially furled sails are not
> great upwind, but are fine for cruising.
> It will cost several hundred dollars each to convert the old sails.  You
> might be better off picking up a used #3 and converting the #1 or vice
> versa depending on condition.
> You can stay within your budget if you shop around.
> If you are happy with the sock, keep it.
>
> Joel.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016, Curtis via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have the approval from the admiral to purchase a new sail and furler
>> system for my C  1981 1/4 ss wire
>>
>> Any advise on how or what to buy? I have no Idea how to proceed. I have a
>> 115% 135% and a 170%. all hank on sails. I have a asymmetrical in a sock as
>> well.
>>
>> My budget needs to be around or below $4, to 5 grand.
>>
>> I'm looking for advise on the complete package.
>>
>> 1) can I install it?
>>
>> 2) how do I know what to buy? I sail local with fun club racing?
>>
>> 3) my sails are all from the 1980's and 1990's? Throw them out and buy
>> new?
>>
>> 3) Asy furler?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>>
>>
>> Capt,Curtis McDaniel
>>
>>
>>
>> Dataw island Marina
>>
>> 843-838-8410 <843-554-8901> Office
>>
>> *http://www.datawmarina.com/ <http://www.datawmarina.com/>*
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didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List Mixing Elbow - 2GM20F

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No. Not sealer. Use the high temperature grey pipe dope
On Jun 21, 2015 9:56 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

  2GM20F - I’m about to replace the mixing elbow - got the part.
 There’s a pipe joint between the mixing elbow and the exhaust elbow that
 screws into both parts.
 Do I screw this piece in dry or (more likely) use some sort of sealant?
 If I need sealant - what do you guys suggest?
 I’ve got a tube of high temp silicone left over from installing my garage
 heater, is this stuff OK? If not - what???

 sam :-)
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 Ghost Lake Alberta



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Re: Stus-List CC 30 MkI for sale

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Whats the asking price?


On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Davidmidkiff via CnC-List 
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 If you or anyone you know is interested I am selling my 1973 ( 2 owner) CC
 30 MK I.   She is located on the eastern shore of MD.  I bought a CC 35 MK
 III and need to sell her.

 David Midkiff
 CC 30 MkI soon to be CC 35
 Serendipity
 Chesapeake, VA
 dmidki...@cox.net

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didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List CC 30 MkI for sale

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wow. great price


On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Davidmidkiff via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I am asking $9,750.00

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 If you or anyone you know is interested I am selling my 1973 ( 2 owner) CC
 30 MK I.   She is located on the eastern shore of MD.  I bought a CC 35 MK
 III and need to sell her.

 David Midkiff
 CC 30 MkI soon to be CC 35
 Serendipity
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 Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 MkI for sale
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 Whats the asking price?


 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Davidmidkiff via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  If you or anyone you know is interested I am selling my 1973 ( 2 owner)
 CC
  30 MK I.   She is located on the eastern shore of MD.  I bought a CC 35
 MK
  III and need to sell her.
 
  David Midkiff
  CC 30 MkI soon to be CC 35
  Serendipity
  Chesapeake, VA
  dmidki...@cox.net
 
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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List CC 30 MkI for sale

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If mine goes up for sale It will be in the $19,000 to $26,000 dollar rnge

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
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 That hurts!  Mine needs a paint job.  I may as well parts it out when I'm
 done with it.
 Ron
 Wild Cheri
 CC 30-1
 STL


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 wow. great price




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 I am asking $9,750.00



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from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on CC 30 M

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This makes better sense. Next time I will Reef


On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
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 Hi Curtis,

 My boat is different but I was in 18-25 knots with elderly guests (4 in
 their mid 70's)  a few weeks back.  To keep it on the easy side we put 2
 reefs on the main and sailed main only while getting out of the marina
 area.. As soon as we got clear water, we deployed the genoa (and furled it
 to about 100%) the boat became more balanced, easy going, and was actually
 heeling less than on main only..
 On the other hand, when the winds are more moderate main only seems fine
 if a good bit slower.  It seems that going with the main only in strong
 winds just puts her in a pi$$y mood.

 -Francois Rivard
 1990 34+ Take Five
 lake Lanier, GA


 I sailed this past Sunday with 18 to 20 with 25 gust. I had just the main
 with no head sail. The man was not reefed.
 I had to fight the helm all after noon. Should I have reefed and raised the
 110% head sail? Would she have better balanced? Also my inner shroud was
 slack like 3 to 4  on the lee side? is that normal or is it too loose?
 Thanks for your thoughts.


 S/V East Coast Lady,
 1981 CC 30 MK1 HIN #
 675

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Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on CC 30 MK1

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Well, The weekend before that I did put up just the 115%. I did have
lighter wind 7 to so 12 but I lost steering as well. I think my next go at
it I will do a single reef and the 115% see if that works better? I thought
maybe the rake was wrong or the inner shrouds to loose? I have all hank on
sails, so I cant just take in canvas when I need to. I also learned its
hard work with 18 to 25 wind.


On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Curtis;



 Basically, it is always easier to balance the boat with both main and
 headsail up. The 110 would probably have been about the right headsail for
 the conditions you describe.



 Boats of the generation we have - with large fore triangles, masthead
 rigs, and sometimes 170% genoas - were  designed to be powered by the
 headsail more than more current designs. I usually just use my headsail on
 those occasions when I chose to put up only one for some reason or other.



 As far as when to reef the main, I can't really give a firm answer. It
 depends on conditions and how the boat is performing. If you are fighting
 the helm, if the boat wants to round up and can't be balanced, if the rail
 is in the water, or if the Admiral is giving you dirty looks, it is
 probably past time to reef. Hull speed on your boat is probably in the
 neighborhood of 6 1/2 knots. All the sail area in the world won't make the
 boat go significantly faster. All the excess sail area does is put the rail
 in the water and make you work harder than needed.



 Rick Brass

 *Imzadi  *CC 38 mk 2

 *la Belle Aurore *CC 25 mk1

 Washington, NC









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 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on CC 30 MK1



 I sailed this past Sunday with 18 to 20 with 25 gust. I had just the main
 with no head sail. The man was not reefed.

 I had to fight the helm all after noon. Should I have reefed and raised
 the 110% head sail? Would she have better balanced? Also my inner shroud
 was slack like 3 to 4  on the lee side? is that normal or is it too
 loose? Thanks for your thoughts.





 S/V East Coast Lady,

 1981 CC 30 MK1 HIN #

 675



 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 15 inches sounds a bit much for a 30 but I'd try it for a while before I
 make any change.  If you don't see a lot of weather helm in stiff breezes,
 don't worry about it.

 I have 11-12 inches rake on my 35-1 and really like the way it sails.
 Fairly neutral helm.  And that's with a fairly old main.

 Dennis C.

 Touche' 35-1 #83

 Mandeville, LA



 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Joe at Zialater via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Howdy listers,



 Last year I had my forestay replaced (for a new roller furler) and it
 ended up being longer than the original by maybe about 4 or 5 inches .  I
 have adjusted the forestay all the way down but I still need plenty of
 backstay to keep it all tight.  So now my mast rake is about 15 inches at
 the boom.  I don't have a ton of weather helm but it's hard to be sure
 because I replaced the old main at the same time that I redid the forestay
 and the new sail is much more efficient.  The extra rake also lowers the
 boom so I need to use topping lift to keep it off the dodger.



 So.how many inches of rake do you have?  And what would you consider
 optimal?  I will have to redo the forestay to fix this but it may be worth
 it.



 As always, I appreciate all the opinions and advice!



 Cheers,



 Joe Boyle

 30 MK1 'ZIA'

 Annapolis



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Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on CC 30 MK1

[Curtis via CnC-List]

I sailed this past Sunday with 18 to 20 with 25 gust. I had just the main
with no head sail. The man was not reefed.
I had to fight the helm all after noon. Should I have reefed and raised the
110% head sail? Would she have better balanced? Also my inner shroud was
slack like 3 to 4  on the lee side? is that normal or is it too loose?
Thanks for your thoughts.


S/V East Coast Lady,
1981 CC 30 MK1 HIN #
675

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 15 inches sounds a bit much for a 30 but I'd try it for a while before I
 make any change.  If you don't see a lot of weather helm in stiff breezes,
 don't worry about it.

 I have 11-12 inches rake on my 35-1 and really like the way it sails.
 Fairly neutral helm.  And that's with a fairly old main.

 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Joe at Zialater via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Howdy listers,



 Last year I had my forestay replaced (for a new roller furler) and it
 ended up being longer than the original by maybe about 4 or 5 inches .  I
 have adjusted the forestay all the way down but I still need plenty of
 backstay to keep it all tight.  So now my mast rake is about 15 inches at
 the boom.  I don't have a ton of weather helm but it's hard to be sure
 because I replaced the old main at the same time that I redid the forestay
 and the new sail is much more efficient.  The extra rake also lowers the
 boom so I need to use topping lift to keep it off the dodger.



 So.how many inches of rake do you have?  And what would you consider
 optimal?  I will have to redo the forestay to fix this but it may be worth
 it.



 As always, I appreciate all the opinions and advice!



 Cheers,



 Joe Boyle

 30 MK1 'ZIA'

 Annapolis

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from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List First sail of the season

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st4000? Now how do you do that again? Hold both buttons till the beep then
drive in 2 to 3 slow circles?

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Martin 'Mac' McKenzie via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I had my first sail of the season yesterday. For late April on Lake
 Ontario it was great. 10 - 12 knot winds and relatively warm. Shorts,
 sweatshirt and life jacket. Re-calibrated Autopilot and wind instruments
 first.


 Mac McKenzie
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 1983 CC 37
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from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List email list or forum

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I agree. I don't fully understand nor pertisapate, I don't want to start a
conversation that the guy's just had a few weeks back. So I find me self
using Sailnet, salty south east cruiser  net.
On Mar 14, 2015 8:59 AM, Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 i'm new to this list, but have found it frustrating to try to search for
 subject matter, rather than re-asking the same questions over and over
 again, until someone posted how to search from google. I'm somewhat less
 frustrated now and find the list easier to use. In my experience the forum
 format has been easier.
 thanks
 Brad
 1985 CC 33 MK II

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Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1

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I am more paranoid of the hatch leaking than the sides. I will start on the
hatch. Right after I redo the hand rails. I hate leaks.


Thanks for the help. Wish me luck. Ill let ya know how it turns out.


On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I had a choice of paying someone to cut the plastic or buying a piece of
 plastic on-line (Interstate Plastics?) and a router for the same price.
 Now I have a router that has been used on several other projects.

 Joel

 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

   Isn't:

 1) The gasket is only between the cast lid (in the groove underneath) and
 the frame to seal the frame to the lid when closed?. As pointed out the
 gasket material could be obtained from numerous sources.
 2) The acrylic is bedded in in the frame with compound?  ... Sikaflex
 295 UV?
 3) The frame is bonded to the deck with butyl and screws.
 4) New cast acrylic could be obtained from multiple sources using the old
 one as a template.

 So with regards to replacing the acrylic, a lot of the discussion that
 just took place here regarding window replacement also is applicable to
 hatches.

 In my case (CC 27 MkIII) the PO had screws installed at the 4 corners of
 the hatch acrylic into the cast lid - I don't think those are original ...
 It appears to be where mine is now leaking from (of course!) Also the
 windows were re-bedded (probably acrylic replaced) with screws included
 every 6-inches or so ... that's (of course) where the windows are now
 leaking from (in fact the screws have damaged the cabin side fiberglass
 around the window opening and I can even pull a couple screws right out of
 the cabin side  completely stripped!)

 Peter Fell
 Sidney, BC
 Cygnet
 CC 27 MkIII

  *From:* Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:47 AM
 *To:* Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1

  It should look like one of these:

 http://atkinshoyle.com/products/hatches-and-ports.html

 Yup, Butyl and wood screws.  You should be able to take out the pin and
 remove the lid and work on it at home.

 Joel

 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Curtis via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34
 year old window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the
 complete window at that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit
 this afternoon. Hoe is the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the
 underside of the window? Is it bolted into wood with woof screws from the
 top side using only butle tape?





 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them.

  Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 CC 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC

 On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this
 list have suggested these guys too:
 http://hatchrepair.com/
 (Hammerhead Nautical Systems)

 I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last
 bit!)

 sam :-)
 CC 26  Liquorice
 Ghost Lake  Alberta


 On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com

 has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what
 you need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call.

 Bill Bina

 On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote:

 Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I
 need to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a
 souse for the gasket/


 thanks

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 *Curtis McDaniel, *


 *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

 Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
 you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
 away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
 Dream. Discover.  -Mark Twain
 http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/



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Re: Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1

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Thanks I guess I will damage the gasket getting a sample out of my 34 year
old window. I will be committed to replacing the gasket or the complete
window at that point. I will look for a name or number on the unit this
afternoon. Hoe is the frame bolted? I don't see any access to the underside
of the window? Is it bolted into wood with woof screws from the top side
using only butle tape?





On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 All true, and a good person to work with. I have used them.

 Jim Watts
 Paradigm Shift
 CC 35 Mk III
 Victoria, BC

 On 24 February 2015 at 08:55, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I've not used them yet, but previous Threads about hatches on this list
 have suggested these guys too:
 http://hatchrepair.com/
 (Hammerhead Nautical Systems)

 I believe the owner used to work for AH (not sure about that last bit!)

 sam :-)
 CC 26  Liquorice
 Ghost Lake  Alberta


 On 2015-02-24, at 9:34 AM, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 http://www.hatchmasters.com http://www.hatchmasters.com

 has parts for just about any hatch ever made. If you don't see what you
 need on their website, shoot them an email or give them a call.

 Bill Bina

  On 2/24/2015 11:29 AM, Curtis via CnC-List wrote:

 Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need
 to replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse
 for the gasket/


  thanks

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 you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
 away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
 Dream. Discover.  -Mark Twain
 http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/



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from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Stus-List Forward hatches on the 1981 CC30 MK1

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Does anybody know who the hatch manufacture for the CC in 1981? I need to
replace the glass and the gasket on mine and im trying to find a souse for
the gasket/


thanks

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*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.  -Mark Twain
http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/



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Re: Stus-List Hatch repair

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I have to be frugal I'm Irish. HAHAHA, no but really, I think I can take
mine and un-pin them and take the lense out and have a lense made and
re-bed it into the frame my self. the lower frame in not the culprit of my
leak. So I think if I can just find the right gasket I will win this
battle. I would not worry too much about bringing us a subject that has
been covered here or on other sites.  Most of us have earned our right to
forget stuff. But in most cases we all learn something new with a new
perspective .
Cheers

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Robert H. via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  I think my 1989 30 MKII has got Lewmar Superhatches (though I'm not even
 sure about that).

 What is the easiest (not necessarily cheapest) way to repair crazed
 lenses? I'm not really keen on removing the hatch lids and shipping them
 off for repair. Is there a complete lid replacement available somewhere? Is
 there any way to simply drop in a new lens?

 Lewmar says they no longer make Superhatch parts (if that is indeed what I
 have). I think I'd probably even spring for new hatches if it that was a
 quick and easy way to get the job done and move on.

 I know that much has been written about this (both here and elsewhere) but
 I'm really not sure how one is supposed to go about this project.

 Rob H.

 Sent from Windows Mail

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 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:00 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 Hammerhead is a great outfit. Much cheaper than hatchsystems. The Atkins
 and Doyle folks, while very nice, are useless:  they want to sell you a new
 hatch.
   I replaced the acrylic lens, gasket, one exterior knob and the handle
 washers on my only hatch last fall and it's leakproof so far.  Email me off
 list if you'd like any help.  I have to be super frugal. I'm Scottish.
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Re: Stus-List (no subject)

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So I ha no Idea it would be so pricy. Here is what I was quoted. Is this a
DIY project? should I try to make my own?
Help$$$


*Solid Teak Handrails:*

   - *Qty (2) - 9-Loop*
  - *12 Centers*
  - *112 overall length*
  - *1 Thick*
  - *2-1/2 High*
  - *4 Pad Bases*
   - *Qty (2) - 6-Loop*
  - *12 Centers*
  - *76 overall length*
  - *1 Thick*
  - *2-1/2 High*
  - *4 Pad Bases*
   - *Furnished finish sanded, cleaned, and ready for application of finish
   coats by others.*

*Pricing:*



*(2) 9-Loop  (2) 6-Loop Solid Teak Handrails - - - - - - - - - - - -
$1,070.00*



*Packaging - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - $55.00*



*Packaging  Shipping via Motor Freight - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $
237.00*



*Total Project - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - -$1,362.00*



*Note:*



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On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Paul Fountain p...@seasource.ca wrote:

  Had new ones made for Perception by Mark Bruckmann, Bruckmann Yachts,
 his dad was one of the original 3 builders that formed CC  Ran the
 custom shop. They look great on the boat!

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

   I need to replace the 9 loop deck rails and 6 loop interior hand
 rails on my CC30 MK1. they where terrible in shape when i bought the
 boat 2012. I refinished them and rebedded, but they have served the old
 girl well. I have checked the web found a few sources, but I wonder if any
 owners have found the exact replacement ones? Let me know. Thanks for your
 time. Capt Curt.
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 didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
 from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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I need to replace the 9 loop deck rails and 6 loop interior hand rails on
my CC30 MK1. they where terrible in shape when i bought the boat 2012. I
refinished them and rebedded, but they have served the old girl well. I
have checked the web found a few sources, but I wonder if any owners have
found the exact replacement ones? Let me know. Thanks for your time. Capt
Curt.
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didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List Portlight Replacement with VHB Tape Dow 795

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fey fred, Did you replace yours? What did you use?
Thanks.

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
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 I agree -- my 30mkI had 3/8 acrylic, as well.

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


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 I used  three eighths cast acrylic... Quarter inch seems thin.



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Stus-List Hand rail replacement teak or Stainless ?

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I have the need after 34 years to replace the outside hand rails on my
CC30MK 1
Has anybody done this? How does it bolt together? It looks like the outside
and the inside handrails attache together? Can it or should it be replaced
with Stainless or Teak? It would be great to have some drawings or
something to go by.

Thanks for your help.

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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Re: Stus-List Window Installation - 1985 41

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I am preparing to under a window replacement forward hatch re-glaze and a
hand rail replacement. So should I use the smoked glass or clear? and what
kind of glass should be used? CC--Plastic (lexan), tempered glass, or
regular glass? the glass in there now is all spider cracked and smoked in
color. looks to be 1/4 thick no frames each of the longer windows have 8
small screws and the forward small windows have 4 screws. looks to be
regular clear silicone. I have had a few small leaks but not many.
Thanks for your help.



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 Chuck,

 Only in a few spots, but that was mainly because I lost some patience in
 prepping the surface and it came up.

 I also added some silicone around the edges to make sure no water got in
 there. That also smoothed out the edges so nobody would snag or cut
 themselves. My crew is not allowed to bleed until after races are finished.


 All the best,

 Edd


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 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/

 On Feb 16, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Edd,
 I like your method.  Curious, if you used any other adhesive or fasteners
 in addition to the tape?


 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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 Josh,

 I used the 3M 5952 VHB Tape:
 http://www.staples.com/3M-5952-VHB-Tape-Dark-Gray-3-4-inch-x-5-yds/product_946573
 http://www.staples.com/3M-5952-VHB-Tape-Dark-Gray-3-4-inch-x-5-yds/product_946573?cmArea=REORDER


 All the best,

 Edd


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 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
 City Island, NY
 Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/

 On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Josh Muckley muckl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Edd,

 I googled 3m fuselage tape and couldn't cleary identify what product you
 used.  Could you please enlighten me.

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 CC 37+
 Solomons, MD
 On Feb 8, 2015 8:38 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 We have the frameless windows and did the replacement last Spring. We
 used 3M fuselage tape - and although the prep was a lot of work, we are
 very pleased with the end result.


 All the best,

 Edd

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 On Feb 8, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 That might work; but butyl's NOT an adhesive, so you would definitely
 need the screws/bolts.

 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 On Feb 8, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Gary Zuehlke via CnC-List 
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 Would the butyl tape work on frameless windows that were attached by
 screws?  What about bolts all the way through to some nice wood trim that
 would clamp the cabin top sides between the windows and interior trim?


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Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design

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ZZC-30-671-M81-   E


 What do they mean?




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 In the US Sailing handicapping guide the CC 30 is broken down into hulls
 1 - 506
 and 507+.  The more modern CC 30-2 is listed separately

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  Anyone know how many of the old 30-1s were made?
 Always wondered.  I heard it was over 300.
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Re: Stus-List CC 30 one design

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So right Gary.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 ZZC-30-671-M81-   E


  What do they mean?




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 Always wondered.  I heard it was over 300.
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Re: Stus-List Dockage and fuel in Charleston

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Port Royal Landing marina. Nice people. Good fuel prices.
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 I'm helping to move a boat south today an am in the Georgetown, Sc area at
 the moment. The owner is thinking about leaving the boat between Georgetown
 and Hilton Head for about two weeks because of personal business.

 Can anyone on the list identify an inexpensive location for dockage, and a
 good source for diesel fuel?

 We last filled the tanks in NN at $2.35 a gallon ($3.99 at the Charleston
 Municipal Marina). Weekly dockage in Charleston seems to be around $13 per
 foot. Ouch!

 Suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Re: Stus-List The stern squats at high speed

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Hi Tom - I 1981 30-1 675M81E, My boat has the Mertec 18 R 2 blade folding
prop. It squats under 3/4 throttle as well. While it will not hurt a thing,
you will get better traction and economy if you move some ballast forward
The boat will have more waterline and moving more efficiently threw the
water.Sometime it don't take much, With my boat I put a secondary water
tank under the v-birth 12 gallon.
Now I get her up to speed and back down to around 2200 rpm's and she
catches hull speed.Well, When she has a clean dottom.

Peace



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 Hi Tom - I notice the same thing on my 30-1 - as I increase revs the stern
 squats.  I have a two blade fixed prop on an Atomic 4.  I sometimes adjust
 the throttle by looking over the stern rather than the speedo - kinda
 handy.
 At high revs my exhaust is completely underwater while it is a few inches
 above water at rest.

 I don't know if it is really a problem or just a matter of physics - my
 power boat does the same thing, albeit  more drastically.

 Joe Boyle
 Zia, 1975 30-1
 Annapolis

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 I was wondering if anyone else has the same problem that I have with my 36'
 that has the 3 cylinder Yanmar 30 HP. While motoring if I increase the
 speed
 the stern starts squatting the faster I go. I top out at 6.5 knots of speed
 and the stern is way down. I have a martec 18'' folding prop and I do not
 know the pitch.

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Re: Stus-List wishing you the best of Solstice

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I did just that. I got certified and started cleaning the bottom of my boat
only to find out it is very hard work. So I have been paying 75 bucks a
month and its eating my lunch. So I will try again this spring. I got the 7
mill suite a bit thick for South Carolina, I know but I was not sure what
to buy. Sometime here in the summer it needs it twice a mnth. I am going to
commit to doing it my self.

Marry Christmas to all


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 Burt,



 I started cleaning my own boat about 13 years ago.  Since I race, a clean
 bottom is essential.  I clean it before each race.  The going rate around
 here is $65 per cleaning, so I have recouped by dive gear costs in the
 first year.  Everything after that is gravy.  I also have a great new hobby
 when I travel to warmer waters.



 I cleaned the bottom today.  Water temp was 45F.  A bit brisk, if I do say
 so myself.  It will make my trip to the haul out next month much quicker.
 With a dirty bottom the four hour trip can take eight hour or more.  Even
 in nice winter weather, that's not much fun.



 I wear glasses all day, but haven't had any problems diving.  I do change
 my zinc now and then, although this year mine lasted all season.



 Jake



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 Happy holidays to all!



 Jack, how do you clean your hull? Do you do it yourself or hire it out. I
 am considering getting dive certified so I can get a set of tanks and air.
 Even with all the gear (weights, wet suit, etc.) I think it would be a lot
 less expensive in the long run and as a bonus, I would be certified to
 dive. Up here in the northeast I don't think I would need to do it as often
 as you unless I start racing. It would also be nice to change my prop shaft
 zincs once during the season and deal with other various issues that might
 require me to work on the exterior of the hull below the water line.



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*Curtis McDaniel, *


*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.  -Mark Twain

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Re: Stus-List OMG! We're dragging!

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I know! Right?  Too fjnny.
On Dec 2, 2014 11:43 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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 That's awesome!  Thanks for the laugh!

 Danny
 From my Android phone


  Original message 
 From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Date: 12/02/2014 9:35 AM (GMT-05:00)
 To: Dennis C. capt...@gmail.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List OMG! We're dragging!


 Too funny!

 Well at least you know that your brain still works.
 My biggest worry when I set an alarm is that it won't wake me up.

 Steve

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 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 9:14 AM
 Subject: Stus-List OMG! We're dragging!


  Anchored off boardwalk at Pensacola Beach last night. 30 20.25 N 87
 08.41
  W. Dead calm, clear night.  Set anchor alarm on GPS.  Depth alarm also
  set.
 
  At 5am this morning I was startled awake by beep beep beep.  Leapt up,
  came into cockpit and heard it again. It was the backup alarm on a
 garbage
  truck on the island emptying dumpsters.  :(. Crap!
 
  Dennis C.
  Touché 35-1 #83
  Mandeville, LA
 
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Re: Stus-List New Sailor Intro and Questions

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 area and a winch.  I don't want to damage the
boom but don't know any other way of getting the engine out.

 Thanks for reading my dribble.. looking forward to learning all about
 sailing the CC and eventually moving up to a 30+ foot boat, buy that is
 way down the road.

 Regards,


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*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.  -Mark Twain

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Re: Stus-List Garden Lights and totally irrelevant

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I'm at the dock. Live aboards don't like this they say too many lights.


On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List 
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 PS.  Replace the stock battery with a 2100mha -plus rechargeable and it
 will last until dawn.

 I wrote:

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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
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from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.  -Mark Twain

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Stus-List CC30 MK1 to windward

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I have not had a lot of windward experiences with my new CC. Its an old
boat but 4 years new to me. It looks like it points well thew I do loose
some control of steering and some weather helm. So far most all of sailing
her has been in the rivers around Beaufort and Charleston SC. Have not been
off shore but a few times with light wind. So I would love to here if these
boats handle well in bigger wind and waves like offshore or near shore.
Like 29% to so 40% off the nose with 4 to 6 foot seas on the nose? Is it
comfortable as far as 30 footer class boats go? Thanks for your incite.
I cant wate to get some sail-time off shore this winter and spring. Its
great living where I dont have to put the boat away in the Winter.
-- 

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*Curtis McDaniel, *


*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.  -Mark Twain

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Re: Stus-List CC30 MK1 to windward

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Haha too funny. Bad spell check on the Droid 5
On Nov 4, 2014 12:54 PM, Ed Dooley via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

  I'm pretty sure we're not allowed to incite on this list.  :-)
 Ed

 *From: *Curtis *cpt.b...@gmail.com cpt.b...@gmail.com*
 *Date: *Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:38:07 -0500
 *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com *CnC-List@cnc-list.com
 CnC-List@cnc-list.com*
 *Subject: *Stus-List CC30 MK1 to windward

 I have not had a lot of windward experiences with my new CC. Its an old
 boat but 4 years new to me. It looks like it points well. Thanks
 for your incite.

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Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?

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Yes I know. But hard to get work moving boats without one. I will need to
find a way to make Cash when I retire.


On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Letsgo Sailing via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hello Sailors,

 I am new to the list and like to greet all of you. I have been a member of
 other lists like CYOA and Liveaboard for many years.

 Some information will let you know that I have a sailor wannabe sing I was
 born on my father's custom build wooden sailboat while circumnavigating.
 Since then somehow saltwater sipped into my veins and can't get rid of it.
 Long story short, due to unfortunate situations and steps forward I had to
 sell my Columbia 8.7 a year and a half ago Christmas.

 I set my eyes on an CC Invader 36 that needs a lot of work and it is
 basically gutted with an old 3 cylinder Volvo with a hugemangus flywheel in
 the front.



 Any way nice to meet you all Captains and Admirals.



 I just want to add to this conversation, if anyone of you is familiar with
 manufacturing floor. Liability in Licencing is like yellow lines on a plant
 floor. If they are laid out you have to abide by them, So, if you have a
 licence you are lyable because you have training and

 someone else said you should know better.



 Yanni

 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible

 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible

 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S

 SCRC 011059

 SRO 26-6483



 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!

 Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?

 Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere





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 Muckley via CnC-List
 *Sent:* October 4, 2014 10:15 PM
 *To:* CC List; Dennis C.; CC List; Dennis C.
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?



 I think Bob was trying to understand what the liability implications of
 having more qualifications were.

 On Oct 4, 2014 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Bob,



 Think of it as a Power Squadron course on steroids. Most insurance
 providers offer discount for such course.



 I get a discount for being a qualified Officer of the Deck while in the US
 Navy.



 Dennis C.

 Touché 35-1 #83

 Mandeville, LA


 Sent from my iPhone


 On Oct 4, 2014, at 7:43 PM, bobmor99 . via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Fred, could you elaborate on this? I might be misunderstanding - not
 unusual - but it sounds like having a CG/6-pack/whatever license increases
 one's liability on the water. He should have known better, he was
 licensed.

 Bob M

 Ox 33-1

 Jax, FL



 On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Agreed on the 2nd point.  And yes, there are still time-on-the-water
 requirements:



 http://www.maritimeinstitute.com/license_requirements.html



 I've been torn on the whole question of getting licensed; yes, you can
 captain vessels for pay (deliveries, excursions, etc.).  But even if you're
 not on the clock and are involved in an accident (like on your own
 vessel), whether or not you're at fault, there are some legal ramifications
 that aren't there if you're not CG-licensed.



 So I've held off on getting my ticket.


 Fred Street -- Minneapolis
 S/V *Oceanis* (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI



 On Oct 3, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Pete Shelquist via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:



 I always understood the on-the-water hours qualification was the more
 limiting restriction.  Is that not in place anymore?



 I know a lot of licensed captains out there aren't worth a damn.  IE:  It
 takes more than just passing a test.




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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than

Re: Stus-List re Online Captains License or class room?

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Thanks for all the advise I think I will do the class in Charleston SC, Its
a ride every day for a week  and 2 weekends. It looks like they have great
reviews and Its close enough that I will be home around  11:pm each night.
But I can get it done. I could learn very well on my own however I don't
want to give any room for holding off on my own time sometime lingers.
This way I will be committed to getting it done.
Thanks again
Sincerely,
 Curtis

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I took mine in the classroom.  I enjoyed the classroom experience, met
 some nice people and it kept me out of trouble on a week night for part of
 the winter.  The rest of the winter I was in big trouble.

 I'm going back this winter for an upgrade and a refresher, then I'm going
 to get the actual license.

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*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.  -Mark Twain

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Stus-List Online Captains License or class room?

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Need some advise



I have always wanted to get my ticket. When i retire I want to be able to
move some boats for a living maybe for a local marina and the like. I want
to get the ball rolling. But I find that there are from around $500 bucks
on line to as much as 1500 in class type schools. I was hoping for some
incite on the better way to take and pass the test. I want to learn and I
want to pass. I want to better hone my skill to become a better skipper. I
have a 65 mile ride to Charleston or a 30 mile ride to Savannah to find a
school. Are the On-Line courses sufficient enough to make the test
passable? I would thing a instructor would be needed to prepare for a test
like that? they claim a 98% pass rate.

Lets here your 2 *¢*

*Best regards,*


*Curtis McDaniel, *


*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
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Stus-List Iss this a real CC

[Curtis via CnC-List]

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/4676807715.html



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*Curtis McDaniel, *


*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*


*Port Royal,*


*South Carolina*

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Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Yea and I have the 675M81e

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 They changed to frameless in 1979 on the 30-1



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
 Nylander via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:09 PM
 *To:* Della Barba, Joe; cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements



 The earliest ones did, but they changed to the glued ones sometime in the
 late '70's.

 Gary

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 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 3:54 PM

 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements



 Doesn't the 30 MK I have the same aluminum frame ports the 35 MK I has?

 Those are pretty easy to DIY.



 *Joe Della Barba*

 *Coquina*

 *CC 35 MK I*





 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
 cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dr. Mark Bodnar via
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 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:28 PM
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 I've done a bunch of reading on this topic as my windows are cracked and
 need replacement.
 I don't have any experience actually doing it but I've read multiple
 different techniques -- so my comments should be taken with a grain (or
 bag) of salt!  Nest year I may be able to speak from experience.

 I remember one discussion on the problem with adhesives was that the
 acrylic expands and contracts at different rates than the boat (or does not
 match boat flexing) and that most people put too thin a layer of adhesive -
 which could not absorb the movement.
 The recommended solution was to use double sided tape to keep the acrylic
 a couple millimeters off the gelcoat - then squeeze the adhesive caulk in
 around the edges for the water proofing.  With more thickness there is more
 ability to absorb the different motions.

 Mark






 There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.

   - George Santayana

 On 23/09/2014 12:42 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote:

 A few years ago I lightly ran a cutting knife around the outside edge of
 the 30-year glued windows, went inside and hit each one once, moderately,
 with my fist. Every one popped right out. No gelcoat damage, but scarily
 easy



 Did the cast acrylic/plexus routine, was happy with nice new ports except
 for the not so pretty glue line showing through #2404 bronze 3/8, but then
 this year the large window started leaking again. Broken-hearted would
 cover it.



 One of several reasons we're currently closing on a boat with Lewmar ports.



 Nate

 Sarah Jean
 1980 30-1

 Siskiwit Bay Marina

 Lake Superior





 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Curtis, be very careful when taking the old ones out. They are glued in
 with some powerful stuff and you stand a good chance of chipping the
 gelcoat around the windows (don't ask me how I know). You may want to try a
 dremel or one of those vibrating side cutters (Fein tool?).



 Then you have to clean up the area where the adhesive was - it was
 probably laid on pretty thick and is another dremel job - again - care.



 Some folks use a special adhesive called Plexus, which is a two part glue
 and needs a special gun for application. The windows are bonded into the
 side of the cabin and are part of the structure. You have to hold them in
 place (they are slightly bent to match the curve of your cabin). Or you can
 use Sikaflex 295, which requires a cleaner, a primer (mandatory!!!) and the
 adhesive. Don't get creative and try anything else, there are probably 100
 war stories about folks who have experimented and then got the opportunity
 to do it right the next year.



 Search through the archives on the site - most of the late '70's and later
 original CC's had glued in windows and there are a lot of threads on this
 repair. It is doable but not trivial. Jake had a pretty good description if
 I remember correctly.



 Gary Nylander

 (Been there with moderate success)



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 *From:* Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:21 AM

 *Subject:* Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements



 Good morning,

 I'm thinking of a winter project to replace the cabin side windows with
 something stronger and nice. Has anybody undergone this project that could
 share their process and maybe some photos ? Do I just cut them out with a
 razor knife and take them to a lexan shop and have them duplicate them in a
 lighter color?  Is there a framed in type? I have been stopping leaks in
 them windows sense I got the boat?



 I also want to rebuild the forward hatch and need something strong and
 that lets in more light. I need to know if the gasket

Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Good morning,
I'm thinking of a winter project to replace the cabin side windows with
something stronger and nice. Has anybody undergone this project that could
share their process and maybe some photos ? Do I just cut them out with a
razor knife and take them to a lexan shop and have them duplicate them in a
lighter color?  Is there a framed in type? I have been stopping leaks in
them windows sense I got the boat?

I also want to rebuild the forward hatch and need something strong and that
lets in more light. I need to know if the gasket around the inside is
replaceable? Mine is cracking up and needs to be replaced. all-tho  the
leaking looks to be the caulking of the class itself to the frame.

If you can share some in-depth details on how the two mentioned projects
are to be completed I would be very thankful.
I am very good at DIY projects and could do this project without imput. It
is so much nicer hearing from people that have done it.

Thanks



*Best regards,*


*Curtis*


*CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*


*Port Royal,*


*South Carolina*

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Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Thanks, Joel.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 The hatch is the easier job.  Yes, the gasket is replaceable.  There are a
 couple sizes ranging from 3/8 to 5/8.  Some of us have used
 weatherstripping, some have bought foam from McMaster/Carr.  The lense is
 3/8 or 1/2 inch plexi.  I decided to buy the plexi and a router rather than
 pay to have it cut to size and shape for the same total price.  I used Dow
 795 (which can also be used for the windows despite Gary's admonition, but
 we have beat that dead horse enough times).
 Gary is right about chipping the gelcoat.

 Be sure to tape all of the areas inside and out where adhesive might
 ooze!  Makes cleanup a lot easier.  Also, where rubber gloves.

 Joel

 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Curtis, be very careful when taking the old ones out. They are glued in
 with some powerful stuff and you stand a good chance of chipping the
 gelcoat around the windows (don't ask me how I know). You may want to try a
 dremel or one of those vibrating side cutters (Fein tool?).

 Then you have to clean up the area where the adhesive was - it was
 probably laid on pretty thick and is another dremel job - again - care.

 Some folks use a special adhesive called Plexus, which is a two part glue
 and needs a special gun for application. The windows are bonded into the
 side of the cabin and are part of the structure. You have to hold them in
 place (they are slightly bent to match the curve of your cabin). Or you can
 use Sikaflex 295, which requires a cleaner, a primer (mandatory!!!) and the
 adhesive. Don't get creative and try anything else, there are probably 100
 war stories about folks who have experimented and then got the opportunity
 to do it right the next year.

 Search through the archives on the site - most of the late '70's and
 later original CC's had glued in windows and there are a lot of threads on
 this repair. It is doable but not trivial. Jake had a pretty good
 description if I remember correctly.

 Gary Nylander
 (Been there with moderate success)


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:21 AM
 *Subject:* Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

  Good morning,
 I'm thinking of a winter project to replace the cabin side windows with
 something stronger and nice. Has anybody undergone this project that could
 share their process and maybe some photos ? Do I just cut them out with a
 razor knife and take them to a lexan shop and have them duplicate them in a
 lighter color?  Is there a framed in type? I have been stopping leaks in
 them windows sense I got the boat?

 I also want to rebuild the forward hatch and need something strong and
 that lets in more light. I need to know if the gasket around the inside is
 replaceable? Mine is cracking up and needs to be replaced. all-tho  the
 leaking looks to be the caulking of the class itself to the frame.

 If you can share some in-depth details on how the two mentioned projects
 are to be completed I would be very thankful.
 I am very good at DIY projects and could do this project without imput.
 It is so much nicer hearing from people that have done it.

 Thanks




 *Best regards,*


 *Curtis*


 *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*


 *Port Royal,*


 *South Carolina*

  *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com*


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Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

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Not mine . Mine are bedded right into the coach top. no frames of any kind?


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Doesn't the 30 MK I have the same aluminum frame ports the 35 MK I has?

 Those are pretty easy to DIY.



 *Joe Della Barba*

 *Coquina*

 *CC 35 MK I*





 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dr.
 Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:28 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements




 I've done a bunch of reading on this topic as my windows are cracked and
 need replacement.
 I don't have any experience actually doing it but I've read multiple
 different techniques -- so my comments should be taken with a grain (or
 bag) of salt!  Nest year I may be able to speak from experience.

 I remember one discussion on the problem with adhesives was that the
 acrylic expands and contracts at different rates than the boat (or does not
 match boat flexing) and that most people put too thin a layer of adhesive -
 which could not absorb the movement.
 The recommended solution was to use double sided tape to keep the acrylic
 a couple millimeters off the gelcoat - then squeeze the adhesive caulk in
 around the edges for the water proofing.  With more thickness there is more
 ability to absorb the different motions.

 Mark







 There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.

   - George Santayana

 On 23/09/2014 12:42 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List wrote:

  A few years ago I lightly ran a cutting knife around the outside edge of
 the 30-year glued windows, went inside and hit each one once, moderately,
 with my fist. Every one popped right out. No gelcoat damage, but scarily
 easy



 Did the cast acrylic/plexus routine, was happy with nice new ports except
 for the not so pretty glue line showing through #2404 bronze 3/8, but then
 this year the large window started leaking again. Broken-hearted would
 cover it.



 One of several reasons we're currently closing on a boat with Lewmar ports.



 Nate

 Sarah Jean
 1980 30-1

 Siskiwit Bay Marina

 Lake Superior





 On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Curtis, be very careful when taking the old ones out. They are glued in
 with some powerful stuff and you stand a good chance of chipping the
 gelcoat around the windows (don't ask me how I know). You may want to try a
 dremel or one of those vibrating side cutters (Fein tool?).



 Then you have to clean up the area where the adhesive was - it was
 probably laid on pretty thick and is another dremel job - again - care.



 Some folks use a special adhesive called Plexus, which is a two part glue
 and needs a special gun for application. The windows are bonded into the
 side of the cabin and are part of the structure. You have to hold them in
 place (they are slightly bent to match the curve of your cabin). Or you can
 use Sikaflex 295, which requires a cleaner, a primer (mandatory!!!) and the
 adhesive. Don't get creative and try anything else, there are probably 100
 war stories about folks who have experimented and then got the opportunity
 to do it right the next year.



 Search through the archives on the site - most of the late '70's and later
 original CC's had glued in windows and there are a lot of threads on this
 repair. It is doable but not trivial. Jake had a pretty good description if
 I remember correctly.



 Gary Nylander

 (Been there with moderate success)



   - Original Message -

 *From:* Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com

 *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com

 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:21 AM

 *Subject:* Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements



 Good morning,

 I'm thinking of a winter project to replace the cabin side windows with
 something stronger and nice. Has anybody undergone this project that could
 share their process and maybe some photos ? Do I just cut them out with a
 razor knife and take them to a lexan shop and have them duplicate them in a
 lighter color?  Is there a framed in type? I have been stopping leaks in
 them windows sense I got the boat?



 I also want to rebuild the forward hatch and need something strong and
 that lets in more light. I need to know if the gasket around the inside is
 replaceable? Mine is cracking up and needs to be replaced. all-tho  the
 leaking looks to be the caulking of the class itself to the frame.



 If you can share some in-depth details on how the two mentioned projects
 are to be completed I would be very thankful.

 I am very good at DIY projects and could do this project without imput. It
 is so much nicer hearing from people that have done it.



 Thanks






 *Best regards,*

 *Curtis*

 *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

 *Port Royal,*

 *South Carolina*

 *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com

Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Mine do not have frames. There bedded right into the coach house.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Joe at Zialater via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hi Curtis,

 Are you talking about replacing just the windows in the aluminum frames on
 your 30-1?  I replaced the windows and splines on my 1975  30-1 last year
 and it was a breeze.  I actually was able to use the same windows as they
 cleaned up very nicely with a plastic polish.  It would have been a simple
 matter to use the old windows as a template for cutting new ones had I
 needed them.

 I ordered the spline and backing from southshoreyachts.com for maybe $60
 for
 all 4 windows (other listers had mentioned alternate sources for less
 dough).  I installed it in an hour or two.  The original spline had dried
 out and was white and chalky - the new spline fit perfectly and the leaks
 are a thing of the past.  Looks like new too.  The Southshore window kit
 includes detailed instructions as I recall.

 Good luck,

 Joe Boyle
 1975 30-1  'Zia'
 Annapolis


 - Original Message -
 From: Curtis via CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 To: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 8:21 AM
 Subject: Stus-List CC30MK1 windows and hatch replacements

 Good morning,
 I'm thinking of a winter project to replace the cabin side windows with
 something stronger and nice. Has anybody undergone this project that could
 share their process and maybe some photos ? Do I just cut them out with a
 razor knife and take them to a lexan shop and have them duplicate them in a
 lighter color?  Is there a framed in type? I have been stopping leaks in
 them windows sense I got the boat?

 I also want to rebuild the forward hatch and need something strong and that
 lets in more light. I need to know if the gasket around the inside is
 replaceable? Mine is cracking up and needs to be replaced. all-tho  the
 leaking looks to be the caulking of the class itself to the frame.

 If you can share some in-depth details on how the two mentioned projects
 are
 to be completed I would be very thankful.
 I am very good at DIY projects and could do this project without imput. It
 is so much nicer hearing from people that have done it.

 Thanks




 Best regards,

 Curtis

 CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady

 Port Royal,

 South Carolina

 cpt.b...@gmail.commailto:bobhick...@rogers.com
 


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Re: Stus-List Forum on C and C photoalbum site

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The form is not used... They use this e-mail system instead of it. Never
really understood it . Would be a better format.



On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
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 http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/

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   What link are you guys using for the Forum?

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Stus-List Tank sizes on the 1981 CC30MK1?

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Does anybody have the factory tank volumes on this model boat?
Water, diesel Fuel 2gm20F Yanmar, Water starboard and bow, Holding tank?

Thanks for your help.



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Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 sail plan

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Thanks Antoine,
 Thanks for the help. I have a question for you. When you and I talked
before you told me you upgraded your standing rigging for off-shore
sailing, Well did you change your spreaders or do anything to sturdy them
up? Both of mine are pined on and will move around a little, like 1/2 to
3/4 of an inch front to back? Is this normal. I had an inspection done by a
rigger and he said my standing rigging looked great and maybe sometime ago
it may have been changed. no reason to worry about the rigging he said. The
port side I can see the chin
He said id not look to be 33 years old to him? I should only replace if its
bad right?
  Anyway back to the sails. I have never used a hank
on reef-able head sail. Should I use this as my working sail and reef in
heavy wind? or would you suggest replacing it with a storm jib? Keep in
mind I will be coastal cruising mostly, Maybe going to the Caribbean an the
Bahama's. If all goes well with the wife maybe other ports of call.

Part of the original question, I was looking for the comfort ratio for the
CC30 mk1 as far as pitch yaw and roll, compared to other boats its size.
I also wanted to know how well it will do in the waves? How well it
drives threw. How well it recovers.
Did the Rose have a mertec 2 blade folding prop?

My Auxiliary power is a 2gm20F with 20 Gal fuel tank under the steering
helm.
18 Gals of water starboard side under the seat, 10 Gal under the v-birth
13 Gal holding tank.

My inventory looks like this.
1)  Standard working main. Full batten 3 reef points
2)  Racing main. Full batten 3 reef points
3) Asymmetrical cruising spin with sock
4) Hank on 110% Head sail with 2 reef points
5) Hank on 135%
6) Hank on  170%

I guess what I am getting at with all this; My wife have sailed the East
Coast Lady hard for 2 years now. She is a very fun boat. Her acceleration
when the wind picks up if fantastic. I can trim her out on a broad reach
and almost sail hands free. We just have not taken her out on the ocean. We
live some 10 miles from the ocean, Up the Port Royal sound in Beaufort SC.
We both are wondering if we should use this boat as a trainer before moving
to a larger, more ocean capable vessel?  As I said before most of it will
be coastal harbor hopping. With a few 1 to 2 night offshore trips here and
there.  Just trying to bounce the Idea of keeping this boat. She is such a
good boat.

Thanks again.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Same on the Swan 42 I race on (put together by the sailmaker).  The focus
 there is on performance.

 Tim

 On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Sailed a j133 back from Bermuda recently. Prominently taped to the inside
 of the companionway was a pretty neat diagram / graph. X axis was wind
 speed y axis was wind angle (forget if true or apparent). The rectangle was
 filled with multiple adjoining shapes each representing a particular head
 sail or spinnaker. I guess this made it very easy for the racing crew to
 determine when to change sail



 --
 Jonathan
 Indigo CC 35III
 SOUTHPORT CT

 On Aug 19, 2014, at 13:36, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  You can find a sail plan as in the drawings and dimensions easy enough,
 but a this much sail in this much wind written plan is something I never
 even knew existed until I sailed a charter cat. We had an easier way anyway
 with the big cat - just watch the rudder angle and reef anytime it got to
 20 degrees.



 *Joe Della Barba*

 Coquina

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
 cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Curtis via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:27 PM
 *To:* Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 sail plan



 Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for
 written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the
 official CC version. I would like to see how the numbers measure up other
 boats. Not looking for sailing advise. I know when to shake one out or the
 fly the kite. That's why I gave an example.

 Thank you for your help.









 On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Good point Joe.  I did make the assumption that he was talking about a
 monohull despite referencing a catamaran.

 Josh

 P.S. So the charter companies don't like seeing their boats sailed
 properly?

 On Aug 19, 2014 12:20 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 You are missing a vital point. Charter cats NEED a written sailplan. They
 have little to no steering feel and don't heel until it is too late. If you
 leave too much sail up they might just round up against full rudder, go
 really fast but ruin the sails*, break something, or perhaps capsize. It
 should be very obvious when a CC needs some sail trim. If you need both
 hands on the wheel

Re: Stus-List Sailing Totem - (CC's) Keels Falling Off!

[Curtis via CnC-List]

All keels will fall off if you skip across the bottom enough.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I have heard via this site of many issues concerning our old boats, but so
 far not one report of a keel falling off either via gravity or grounding.
 Did I miss something or is the woman writing this blog just full of crap?

 Best regards,
 Jack Fitzgerald
 CC 39 TM (1974)
  # 69)
 HONEY
 US12788
 Savannah



 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Does anyone know if there is any base to the assertion the Ms. Gifford
 makes in her Sailing Totem  blog that (CC's) keels are falling off!

 http://www.sailfeed.com/2014/08/theres-this-boat-mary-powell/

 Assuming not, could someone remind her that baseless assertions,
 distributed by her through various channels (Sailfeed, email, f*book, etc.)
 is irresponsible and is the malady that leads to the unfortunate
 afflictions behind Rebel Heart slander and other unfortunate rumoring.

 I would email, but I need to get back to work.

 Kevin

 Portland
 30-2


 Kevin Driscoll
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Stus-List CC30MK1 sail plan

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Can anybody give me the sailplan for my boat? What sail to use under what
wind condition. What is the comfort rating, tern over ratio. I have no
paper work with this boat that shows this information. It would be nice to
have a printed version of this information.

example on sail -plan

The sail plan for a Lagoon 380 in sustained winds is as follows:

*Force 5 winds (up to 22 knots): full sail, both main and jib.*

*Force 6 winds (22 to 26 knots): one reef in the main and full jib.*

*Force 7 winds (27 to 28 knots): one reef in the main and one reef in the
jib.*

*Force 7 winds (29 to 33 knots): two reefs in both the main and the jib.*

*Force 8 winds (34 to 38 knots): two reefs in the main and three reefs in
the jib.*

*Force 9 winds (39 to 44 knots): drop mainsail completely and three reefs
in jib.*

Above 44 knots, all sail is dropped and the mainsail bag and boom will be
quite enough sail, thank you.
Thanks for your help...
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*Port Royal,*


*South Carolina*

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Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 sail plan

[Curtis via CnC-List]

Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for
written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the
official CC version. I would like to see how the numbers measure up other
boats. Not looking for sailing advise. I know when to shake one out or the
fly the kite. That's why I gave an example.
Thank you for your help.





On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Good point Joe.  I did make the assumption that he was talking about a
 monohull despite referencing a catamaran.

 Josh

 P.S. So the charter companies don't like seeing their boats sailed
 properly?
 On Aug 19, 2014 12:20 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  You are missing a vital point. Charter cats NEED a written sailplan.
 They have little to no steering feel and don't heel until it is too late.
 If you leave too much sail up they might just round up against full rudder,
 go really fast but ruin the sails*, break something, or perhaps capsize. It
 should be very obvious when a CC needs some sail trim. If you need both
 hands on the wheel to steer and the rail is underwater that is a good hint.
 You also need to know the strength of the sails and the strength of the
 crew. My #1 genoas could be used off the wind in a lot more wind than would
 be good for the light cloth. My spinnaker is a light air sail for us while
 cruising. We don't have the manpower to handle a heavy air spinnaker run
 with just my wife and I to do all the work.



 *do not show charter company video of their boat doing 15 knots. Just
 sayin'



 *Joe Della Barba*

 Coquina

 CC 35 MK I

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 CC 37+
 Solomons, MD

 On Aug 19, 2014 10:32 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Can anybody give me the sailplan for my boat? What sail to use under what
 wind condition. What is the comfort rating, tern over ratio. I have no
 paper work with this boat that shows this information. It would be nice to
 have a printed version of this information.



 example on sail -plan

 The sail plan for a Lagoon 380 in sustained winds is as follows:

 *Force 5 winds (up to 22 knots): full sail, both main and jib.*

 *Force 6 winds (22 to 26 knots): one reef in the main and full jib.*

 *Force 7 winds (27 to 28 knots): one reef in the main and one reef in the
 jib.*

 *Force 7 winds (29 to 33 knots): two reefs in both the main and the jib.*

 *Force 8 winds (34 to 38 knots): two reefs in the main and three reefs in
 the jib.*

 *Force 9 winds (39 to 44 knots): drop mainsail completely and three reefs
 in jib.*

 Above 44 knots, all sail is dropped and the mainsail bag and boom will be
 quite enough sail, thank you.

 Thanks for your help...

 --

 *Best regards,*

 *Curtis McDaniel, *

 *CC 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*

 *Port Royal,*

 *South Carolina*

 *cpt.b...@gmail.com bobhick...@rogers.com*



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Re: Stus-List CC30MK1 sail plan

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Thanks Michael, This was a great help.


On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for
 written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the
 official CC version. I would like to see how the numbers measure up other
 boats. Not looking for sailing advise. I know when to shake one out or the
 fly the kite. That's why I gave an example.
 Thank you for your help.





 On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Good point Joe.  I did make the assumption that he was talking about a
 monohull despite referencing a catamaran.

 Josh

 P.S. So the charter companies don't like seeing their boats sailed
 properly?
 On Aug 19, 2014 12:20 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  You are missing a vital point. Charter cats NEED a written sailplan.
 They have little to no steering feel and don't heel until it is too late.
 If you leave too much sail up they might just round up against full rudder,
 go really fast but ruin the sails*, break something, or perhaps capsize. It
 should be very obvious when a CC needs some sail trim. If you need both
 hands on the wheel to steer and the rail is underwater that is a good hint.
 You also need to know the strength of the sails and the strength of the
 crew. My #1 genoas could be used off the wind in a lot more wind than would
 be good for the light cloth. My spinnaker is a light air sail for us while
 cruising. We don't have the manpower to handle a heavy air spinnaker run
 with just my wife and I to do all the work.



 *do not show charter company video of their boat doing 15 knots. Just
 sayin'



 *Joe Della Barba*

 Coquina

 CC 35 MK I

 Josh Muckley
 S/V Sea Hawk
 1989 CC 37+
 Solomons, MD

 On Aug 19, 2014 10:32 AM, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Can anybody give me the sailplan for my boat? What sail to use under
 what wind condition. What is the comfort rating, tern over ratio. I have no
 paper work with this boat that shows this information. It would be nice to
 have a printed version of this information.



 example on sail -plan

 The sail plan for a Lagoon 380 in sustained winds is as follows:

 *Force 5 winds (up to 22 knots): full sail, both main and jib.*

 *Force 6 winds (22 to 26 knots): one reef in the main and full jib.*

 *Force 7 winds (27 to 28 knots): one reef in the main and one reef in
 the jib.*

 *Force 7 winds (29 to 33 knots): two reefs in both the main and the jib.*

 *Force 8 winds (34 to 38 knots): two reefs in the main and three reefs
 in the jib.*

 *Force 9 winds (39 to 44 knots): drop mainsail completely and three
 reefs in jib.*

 Above 44 knots, all sail is dropped and the mainsail bag and boom will
 be quite enough sail, thank you.

 Thanks for your help...

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Re: Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII

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Here in Beaufort South Carolina we have to clean the bottom every three to
4 weeks otherwise it fouls the bottom. If you hold for 5 weeks here you
will start getting hard growth.  Do like I did and learn to do it your
self. You can save a lot of cash and know the job is done right. My CC30
MK1 can be done by free diving. No scuba tanks needed. However it makes it
easier so I do use the scuba method
.
You will need to keep the bottom clean to reach the correct hull speed and
correct RPM's for your Yanmar.
I have the Yanmar 2GM20F in my Boat. If I let the bottom go past time to
clean the bottom go very long The Engine will show it
.When you go to the boat and warm up the engine, Look at your rudder see if
it has a film or a light carpet on it. If so you are right on time for a
cleaning.One other thing some folks forget is to keep a clean air filter in
the boat. If the engine cant breath she will blow black smoke.
Cheers



On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Dwight,



 This was my thought, as well.



 It is colder out here, but at least I don't need to clean the bottom more
 often than once a year at haul out.



 Marek (in Ottawa)



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *dwight
 veinot via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:37 PM
 *To:* Jake Brodersen; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII



 No cleaning for month...wow, glad I don't get that fun job once a
 month...do you use an anti fouling paint or dry sail Midnight
 Mistress...don't any anti fouling paints work better than that where you
 sail

 On Saturday, August 16, 2014, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Paul,

 Any significant growth on the hull/prop will slow the boat.  I can lose two
 knots of boatspeed with a dirty bottom (i.e. no cleaning for a month).
 There have been times I could barely make four knots and it was blowing
 black smoke into the water.  A clean bottom is essential to efficient
 sailing.

 Jake

 Jake Brodersen
 Midnight Mistress
 CC 35 Mk-III
 Hampton VA




 -Original Message-
 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul
 Baker via CnC-List
 Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 6:20 PM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII

 Hi Folks,
 Any 27MkII folks out there with a Yanmar 1GM10 diesel?  What prop do you
 have on there, and is it able to achieve max rpm under load?  I can't
 recall
 what I have (3 blade but don't know size/pitch) but at 2700rpm I am
 billowing black smoke and still only doing 5kts.  Dirty bottom is going to
 contribute to this, plus some junk on the prop itself, but I wouldn't have
 thought it would be *that* big an effect.
 Cheers,
 Paul

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Re: Stus-List Nice sail but dangerous waters in harbor

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Got to love it. Adventure !!!


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Finished a couple boat jobs yesterday and decided to go out on the lake
 for a late afternoon sail.  Not much breeze but a pleasant sail nonetheless.

 After the pleasant uneventful sail, I entered Mandeville Harbor afterwards
 (30 20' 50, 90 03' 46).  There was a guy on the seawall fighting a fish.
 His buddy waved at me to move to the far side of the entrance to allow him
 to play the fish.  As I went by the fish broke the surface.  Wow!  Looked
 like a 3-4 footer, species unknown.  Then his line broke.  Too bad.

 I continued up the harbor into the narrow bayou and made the sharp right
 hand turnHoly Crap!  Here comes one of my marina friends in his Leopard
 38 catamaran with 20+ foot beam.  I eased as far to the edge of the channel
 watching that my shrouds didn't hit overhanging branches from a cypress
 tree.  We passed with 3 feet between us.

 A couple hundred yards later I had to dodge a moderately sized alligator
 swimming up the bayou.

 Glad to get Touche' back into the slip.

 Dennis C.
 Touche' 35-1 #83
 Mandeville, LA

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Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

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Yes, in the wiring loom facing the front of the engine the harness will
have an inline fuse. it runs from the Starter to the start switch.

I will send you a link to the diagram.

It's a 30 amp fuse. Sometimes it needs a good cleaning sometime a new fuse.
I keep 3 or 4 extra on the boat as spares.




http://s148.photobucket.com/user/LTGoshen/media/YanmarGMwiring_zpsab1e027b.jpg.html


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Hello:

 I have a 1985 CC 33-2 with a Yanmar, Diesel 2GM20F engine.  I was
 sailing last night and started the motor like normal to get out of harbor.
 However, when I went to  come back in to the harbor.  I proceed to follow
 my normal process.  I put the transmission in Neutral and reached down to
 turn the key and heard the whistle sound and press the start button.
 NOTHING HAPPENED.  Kept trying on different batteries and still nothing.  I
 also looked at the gauges with the motor would not start and my gas gauge
 read empty and i know i have a full tank.

 We got back into the harbor and someone showed my how to jump the motor.
 I started right up.  He indicated it might be a fuse.

 Is anyone familiar with the location of the fuse between the key and the
 motor and the type of fuse i may be needing to repair this.

 Thanks,
 Ray
 LakeHouse
 Libertyville, IL



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Re: Stus-List Alternator for Yanmar 3GM30

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Good choice on the AGM. They have proved them self to me.


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 All,

 My alternator is putting out too much voltage (15 volts)  It s a 35 amp
 Apco with an internal regulator.  Rather than trying to have it rebuilt I
 am thinking of buying a new alternator.  Is there a higher amp alternator
 that will fit the single pulley without breaking the bank?  I don't want to
 spend $700 for a Balmar.  I have 2 house batteries and 1 start battery.
  All are currently wet cell, but the next time around they will probably be
 AGM.

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Re: Stus-List Alcohol stove

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  This my first go-around with alcohol stoves. Seems to work very nicely.
 Cleaned it up filled it and brewed a big pot of coffee in no time. Is there
 any reason not to use plain old denatured alcohol instead of stove cooking
 fuel?

 Skip


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Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC

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Purchase price $2,500.00 Last offer $29,500 around $7,000 invested. I would
never sale her now!!! I have fallen in love with her. take a look see.

http://eastcostlady.blogspot.com/p/photos-of-progress.html



On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Ah, you read between the lines.

 Love my CC. My lovely wife does too!

 Cheers,
 Dave Godwin
 1982 CC 37 - Ronin
 Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
 Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/

 On Aug 6, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Richard N. Bush bushma...@aol.com wrote:

  I'm just wondering why in the friggin' hell I haven't pulled the
 trigger on that option...

 *Dave, its because you have a great boat...*

  Richard
 1985 37  CB; Ohio River, mile 584


 Richard N. Bush
 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
 Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
 502-584-7255


 -Original Message-
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 To: Burt Stratton bstrat...@falconnect.com; cnc-list 
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 Sent: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 7:35 pm
 Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC

  Ha! I do keep that kind of accounting on all the money that I have and
 will be spending on our boat over the years. I can afford a new(er) boat.

  I'm just wondering why in the friggin' hell I haven't pulled the trigger
 on that option...

  Cheers,
Dave Godwin
 1982 CC 37 - Ronin
 Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
 Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/

  On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 If I kept that kind of accounting for my business I could probably afford a
 bigger boat :(

 -Original Message-
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 cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 1:48 PM
 To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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 OMG...

 If i kept that that kind of accounting foe my boat I'd probably want to
 shoot myself!!!  LOL

 There is LOTS of things I conveniently forget that I had to pay for!!!  LOL

 Danny
 Lolita
 1973 Viking 33
 Westport Point, MA

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 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List big $$$ used CC
 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:39:48 +

 Read it and weep: http://www.wbryant.com/temp/refurbcost.pdf  or read it
 and laugh.  Or laugh and weep.  Or drink tequila and don't worry about
 it...

 The amazing thing is that I did most of the work myself, and very little of
 it was cosmetic.  That was intentional.  The boat is structurally sound
 enough to survive anything that *I'm* structurally sound enough to survive,
 but if thieves are cruising by in a panga trying to decide which boat to
 break into, they'll probably choose somebody else.

 BTW, the boat that started this thread is not a neglected boat in any book.

 Wal

 you wrote:

 Fair warning:  You'll spend far more then you think refurbishing a
 neglected boat, even buying used stuff,  being creative with eBay, and
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Re: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard

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I had to replace the 2gm15 diesel in my CC 30 within the first year of
owning the boat. I am in no way a mechanic. I got the boat for $2,500.00
bucks and knew it had some issues. I took it on as a project boat. The boat
had been sitting in the saltwater for 5 years unattended without flushing
out the saltwater. The little 2 cylinder yanmar ran for 22 hrs and died. I
shopped around and found a low hour 2GM20F on E-Bay. I removed the old
engine and installed the newer one using my boom and a com-a-long. It was
easy-peasy. It took some time and some learning as I went. But I got it
done and the engine cost $2,500. That's right as much as the boat! But now
I have a great little engine and a fantastic Boat. I now have a skill set
in which I can help others or myself if I ever need to use it. I would
suggest the DIY projects are not near as hard as they seem. I know you can
save a bundle of loot. We all could use more cruising kitty. I say snatch
it out and have it rebuilt or pick up a good used one and install it
yourself. Good luck.


On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 One more thing nobody mentioned yet.

 With the outboard we had, my wife could not, even if our lives depended on
 that, drop the motor down (you had to lift it a bit first) and start it
 (pull start). Even if yours is complaining (or unhappy) with your current
 flaky A4, trust me, she will be much less happy with the outboard. I know,
 there are better brackets and there are electric start motors, but the
 inboard provides (normally) much more reliable and (readily available)
 power.

 I solved the problem by moving to a bigger boat (as Kim below), but that's
 another story.

 Marek

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 Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on repowering with outboard

 I have had both. FWIW I would never go back to Outboard. My Catalina 27 had
 a 15hp and was pretty well designed for it. Transom had a cut out in the
 middle and the motor simply tilted up into this cut out- no bracket. There
 was room on either side for a 5 gal gas can. There was enough power(note
 this was a 15hp and not the 9.9 suggested) but chop was a problem as the
 prop would come out of the water. And it didn't have electric start so you
 had to pull the cord to start it in a very awkward position. If you go with
 an outboard you'll likely be stuck with a bracket. With some bracket
 installations (and a well installation on a Henderson 30 I sailed on) you
 are starting the motor with it in the air and then dropping it down so it
 has access to cooling water.  Again very awkward positions to start if
 using
 a pull cord.  You will be likely limited on motor size by the weight limit
 of the bracket so pay attention. You can get it to work but you are just
 trading one set of issues for another.  If you simply use the motor to get
 out of the harbor on nice days or to the race course, it is certainly
 viable. If you just race- get a 3.5HP and take it off before the start and
 stow below if your PHRF allows;-)  If you cruise and motor extensively then
 the drawbacks will increase- cavitating in chop; undersized HP (due to
 weight concerns); limited battery charging.  And as others have alluded
 the cost comparison needs to include any needed transom reinforcement; the
 bracket; motor; remote controls (you really don't want to be adjusting
 throttle and shifting by reaching over the transom); and removing the old
 running gear and plugging the shaft hole.  Good luck I know how frustrating
 a flaky motor can be. In my case I solved it by buying a bigger boat with a
 diesel...

 Kim Brown
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Re: Stus-List Eye can see a CC

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Great news



On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 This sort of hit home with me. My wife was incubated as a baby in pure
 oxygen. This is a practice that was stopped when it was realized the damage
 it does to the eyes. As a result she has had to deal with severe
 nearsightedness, severe astigmatism and as a result stretched retinas. She
 has been seeing a retina specialist regularly (several times a year since
 the age of 30ish and has had many retina surgeries. Her vision has been
 around 20/600 in her good eye since she can remember. Something like 20/800
 in her other eye. Needed a doctors note all her adult life to keep her
 drivers license. Coke bottle glasses don't even do it justice. I always
 joked she could use her glasses in a pinch to start a fire. She had
 cataract surgery last year. VERY risky in her situation but her retina
 specialist approved it. The change was so drastic she could stop wearing
 glasses except for cheaters for reading (like me). This was just slightly
 emotional this was for her. At 57 she looked at the world like a baby... for
 the first time...then she saw me. You can imagine my concern.



 I'm still here so I guess it was OK.



 Amazing what they can do.



 Skip



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric
 Frank via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2014 7:37 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Eye can see a CC



 A bit late on this one, but just to add another plus (both my cataracts
 were corrected during the last 10 months).  Cat's Paw was already beautiful
 (to me) before the operation, and the sails were already close enough for
 me to see they were mostly badly trimmed.  But for the first time in years,
 I can see buoys as far away as my wife can (she has excellent vision).
  This has really made a qualitative difference in my pleasure while sailing.



 Eric Frank
 Cat's Paw
 CC 35 Mk II
 Mattapoisett, MA



 On Aug 2, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Stu stumurra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Late last year, I was diagnosed as having severe cataracts in both eyes
 and they were 'ripe' for surgery.

 After months' of waiting, I have had the cataracts removed from both eyes
 and new lens inserted.? Approximately 30 minutes per surgery and a wait of
 several weeks between each.

 Multiple visits to the doctor for follow-ups and gallons of drops in each
 eye -- I think my brain is getting water logged.

 But the good thing about it all -- after close to 60 years of wearing
 glasses, I now have better than 20/25 vision in both eyes.? Still need
 glasses for reading and won't get them prescribed for another 4-6 weeks.?
 At the same time, I should have the prescribed glasses restriction removed
 from my driver's license.

 I can't believe how beautiful everything looks and the amount of detail
 that I have missed.

 If you have cataracts, get them looked after as soon as possible -- you
 will be surprised at how beautiful your CC really looks.
 ?
 Stu



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*Best regards,*


*Curtis McDaniel, *


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*Port Royal,*


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Re: Stus-List dual ownership?

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If you are anal about your stuff sure I would not do it. But if you can
share in the cost and the now the difference between abuse and ware and
tear, you may reconsider. My wife and I are not retired and will be another
5 or 6 years. My sailing partner gets the lion share of sail time. But more
importantly some one is using the boat and making daily repairs as needed
and keeping systems up and running. That way when I get to the boat on the
weekend the boat is in great shape. dockedge and insh is around $4000. a
year then there is the bottom cleaning I do my self. it would cost $75.00
bucks each time to have it cleaned. I got certified to do it my self. saves
a bundle. In South Carolina it has to be done twice a month in the warmer
months. April - December. Some people never share there stuff. You'll find
these are the same people that would never entertain a boat share
situation. Most will not share a drill with there neighbor. That being said
it is important to find a partner that you like and that has good sharing
characteristics*.*
*We are in our 4th year and its been great...*



On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I would suggest considering all the potential bad outcomes and have an
 agreement regarding those before they happen. E.g. how you deal with
 repairs due to one party's negligence or error. E.g.  One option is the
 guilty party pays, but this may lead to hiding problems; the other option
 is you split the cost, but this may lead to one side paying for the other
 side's mistakes. Another issue is to decide up front about any potential
 upgrades (one person wants a new Kevlar racing sail, the other an upgrade
 to the head or one wants to spend max $100 a year for upgrades, the other
 does not mind $5000).



 Just a few thoughts. When we started sailing again some 10 years ago, we
 mused about going into a partnership and decided against it. So far, we
 don't regret it.



 Marek (in Ottawa).



 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin
 DeYoung via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2014 5:14 PM
 *To:* Jimmy Kelly; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List dual ownership?



 Calypso has been co-owned for 15 years, and we (the co-owners) had a CC
 36 in a partnership for 7 years before that.



 The partnership agreement is similar to a real estate limited partnership
 with a general partner (takes care of finances, insurance, taxes etc.) and
 a limited partner.  We started at 50/50 with a mechanism to compensate
 (with ownership share) if one partner contribute more $$ over time.  We
 have a partnership[p checking account with auto deposit of monthly
 contribution.



 Scheduling has rarely been an issue but we had a practice of alternating
 years for first pick of major holidays etc.  Lately we have been setting up
 the race sched in January and discussing what other events/cruises may be
 interesting.  Both our spouses are dis-inclined to go out with us for more
 than a day sail unless we line up extra crew to assist with the sail
 handling.



 We both race, splitting duties and sharing/discussion tactical decisions.
 Fortunately we have had similar ideas of budget and level of completion.
 We double-hand race from time to time and have been able to deal with heat
 of the moment race decisions without creating long term inter-personal
 issues.



 My best advice for boat partnerships is to pick a partner that is a good
 person first, good sailor second, ability to pay third,  Next have a
 written separation agreement that makes it possible to un-wind the
 partnership when things change.



 Some separation clauses I have seen include the right of one partner to
 buy out the other before offering the share for sale, others with the
 ability of the remaining partner to veto a unsuitable new partner.



 Feel free to email questions on co-ownership experience if I did not cover
 your particular questions.



 Martin

 Calypso

 1971 CC 43

 Seattle
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 *Sent:* Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:19 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Stus-List dual ownership?

 has any one tried shared ownership of sailboat?  have owned  operated  my
 cnc 41 for 40 years..am finding not using enough..but do not wish to sell
 her...younger co owners as well as us in 70s...could work something out..to
 mutual benefitboat in good shape needs very little   other than
 marinainsurance costs..would this be good way for younger couple to get
 into larger boatany ideas are welcome...boat currently west coast ...

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Re: Stus-List dual ownership?

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I Co-Own The East Coast Lady.  It was not a hard choice for me. I would
never be able to keep my boat at the marina as I do now, with the $ help of
a partner. My sailing partner is 10 or 12  years older than me and my wife.
This works out for the older couple now. We can only sail on the weekends
and vacations. They can sail every day. 10 years from when we retire, we
will be sailing all the time and  partner will be tired and only want to
sail once in a while. The boat is mine on paper and will remain so. The
deal to the partner is we split the operational cost, up-fit cost,
Maintenance fuel fees dockage, haul-out fees, etc. etc. you own the boat
and share the rest. Work out sailing times. It has worked great for us and
to be quite frank the 2 of us don't use it enough. Just make sure you
explain going into the relationship the the deal has nothing to do wioth
ownership. Its only usage. Make sure they are as anal as you on the
cleaning of the bottom and the bird poop on top. Make sure you like them
cause you will find your self sailing with him more than you think.  Have
fun... Like I said it works great for us.



On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 has any one tried shared ownership of sailboat?  have owned  operated  my
 cnc 41 for 40 years..am finding not using enough..but do not wish to sell
 her...younger co owners as well as us in 70s...could work something out..to
 mutual benefitboat in good shape needs very little   other than
 marinainsurance costs..would this be good way for younger couple to get
 into larger boatany ideas are welcome...boat currently west coast ...

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Re: Stus-List water toys for guests on sailboats

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Chuck, Is that river still sick?

http://www.chesapeakebay.net/blog/post/magothy_river_health_continues_to_be_poor_according_to_latest_report_card



On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Had another amazing weekend again on the Magothy River.  The 20 to 30 knot
 Northwest wind blew the the water out of the Chesapeake Bay to cause an
 abnormal low tide, yet we still had enough water to leave the slip and
 return to pick up/drop off passengers each day.  Sweet!
 Great sailing wind late Fri, 12 to 20 knots, fireworks all around the boat
 360 degrees for over an hour, but the biggest hit for the girls was getting
 towed behind the boat on an inflatable raft.

 In the lighter stuff on Saturday 5 to 8 knots, my son and I were
 considering the spinnaker, in a sock, but gave in to dragging crew behind
 the boat on a fender on a line.  Big hit!  The girls wanted in.  I had to
 rig towlines to their blow up rafts.  Amazingly, they worked, no problems
 under power.  Big smiles all round.  The simple $6 blowup raft w a paddle
 was a favorite at the dock and at anchor.

 Stopped looking for a standup paddle board for my wife.  Now I'm looking
 for a simple boogie board to tow behind or something suitable for towing
 two persons at 7 to 8 knots sailing speed.  Any suggestions?

 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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 *From: *CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *To: *Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com, CNC boat owners,
 cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:37:20 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

 Joel, it sounds like we have the same heater and I think we have the same
 engine (3GMF) - I get very hot water in half an hour of engine running or
 less.  It is too hot to wash dishes in without adding cold so you can
 actually put your hands in - however hot that is (and my cold water is cold
 - from a tank under the starboard settee).

 You may have scale issues, although eventually your water tank should get
 hot anyway, but maybe check for a mixing valve.  Could it be a thermostat
 that's stuck open causing the engine to run cool??

 Tim

 Mojito
 CC 35-3
 Branford, CT


 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Jake,

 Probably the same one.  Guess I'll be flushing mine out.  The drain has a
 hose thread on it so I can probably back flush it.  You may not want to
 know what comes out.  Even on mine the cold water gets heated when the
 engine is running.

 Joel


 On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, Bill Bina via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

  I once troubleshot a home boiler with an integral domestic hot water
 coil. The water coming out of the taps never got more than warm. Turned out
 there was a balance pipe between the cold water input to the boiler and
 the domestic hot water output. In the middle of that pipe was a gate valve
 that LOOKED just fine. No signs of even slight seepage from the stem. Only
 problem was that after 30 years, the gate was no longer there. It had
 corroded away, so no matter how tight you thought it was shut, it was
 always effectively wide open. I replaced it with a ball valve.

 Bill Bina

 On 7/8/2014 7:49 PM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List wrote:

  Joel,



 Not sure what heater I have.   It's old, round, and white with a black
 top.  It gets scalding hot after 20-30 of running time.  My problem is that
 I get hot water out of both the hot and cold faucets.  Something isn't
 plumbed right, I think.



 Jake




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Re: Stus-List seacocks

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I have a CC30 MK1 with a updated 2GM20F . I run the engine compartment
blower to suck out the heat and vent the area while running. But not for
the extraction of CO2. I haven't worried about that. With an open forward
hatch and and the cockpit hatch open pushing no less than 3 knots of  winds
threw the cabin house I would not think it CO2  be a problem. Maybe it
could be a problem on the hook charging batteries in a rain, with the boat
sealed up and not venting the exhaust.

Sea Cocks. I have my boat at the dock. I visit it weekly, some times 2
times a week. The Sea cocks are always closed unless needed. This habit
makes you work them or not sail. It is a great policy for required
maintenance. If they stay closed unless needed you will give them a work
out each time you use the boat. I have a
1) Port side cock pit drain,
2) I have a starbord cockpit drain that has a Y fitting to drain the gally
sink.
3) I have a raw water intake for the engine.
4) I have a raw water intake for the head.
5) I have a drain for the Head
6) I have a drain for the Head sink
They all get a turn or two each week.

Its a small chore but gives me peace of mind.

Curtis
CC 30 MK1 675M81E



On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Bob,
 seacocks
 I'm keeping my boat 2 1/2 hrs from home and closing seacocks more than I
 used to.  I'm trying to develop better habits closing up the boat prior to
 leaving for the week.  Got any tips or maybe a checklist?



 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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 *Sent: *Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:27:22 AM
 *Subject: *Stus-List Atomic 4

 I tried to stay out of this one, but the Irish whiskey has taken over.

 Atomic four engines are safe if properly maintained.  Those of you who
 claim otherwise are just blowing smoke.

 Those of you who are under the impression that a diesel upgrade saving you
 .5 gallons per hour will pay off in a lifetime of a weekend sailor have
 lost the plot or have not done the simple math.

 US$10,000.00 for a diesel upgrade, saving US$2.00 in fuel per hour of
 motoring will take how long to pay for itself?  (My old A4 burned about 3/4
 to 1.0  gallon an hour, my Yanmar turns 1/2 - 3/4 a gallon per hour.)

 For those of you so scared of gasoline engines, how many of you keep a car
 or two, lawn mower, weed whacker, leaf blower, spare gas can, oil, paint,
 spray cans, etc. ad nauseam in your attached garage?  Really?

 How many of you keep that gas grill and/or spare propane tanks in that
 same garage?  Or sitting on the deck outside your bedroom window?

 How many of you have a smoke detector and CO2 detector on your boat?

 Those of you who throw stones better not have your kids napping in the
 Vberth whilst you run that motor without CO2 detector(S).

 The key to ANY engine is maintaining it.  Constantly.  Regular periodic
 maintenance and upgrades.  Just like any other gas engine, you can't leave
 it for a decade and expect your fuel lines, tank or carb not to develop
 problems.

 Install a quality petcock on the fuel lines and close it when you close
 the through hulls at the end of the day  Oh, you don't close your
 through hulls?...  Never mind.

 Rant complete, over and out.

 Rob



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Re: Stus-List CC 30 mk1 rudder design

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Nope, I dont like the folding prop. I have no rev to speek of. Its
dangrous.. Im going to change it as soon as I can find the money. I
try to always go froward.
Great boat !! bad prop.

On 6/12/14, Simon Warren via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 Hi Curtis,
 How do you like that folding prop? How does it perform in fwd/reverse?
 I have the same one in a box in my basement, but I'm reluctant to try it
 since it does not have the gears to ensure that both blades open evenly.

 Anyone know if it is worth anything on the used market?
 I currently have a 2 blade composite prop, which is OK, but not much power
 in reverse.

 BTW I have CC30MK1 #657, pretty close to your 675.

 Simon

 From: Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 To: Michael Brown m...@tkg.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List CC 30 mk1 rudder design
 Date: Wed, Jun 11, 2014 9:43 PM


 Here is the bottom of my 1980 CC30MK1 HIN # 675

 http://s148.photobucket.com/user/LTGoshen/media/March%202012%20Haul%20Out/EastCoastLady3-9-12001_zps6e2a9d0f.jpg.html?sort=2o=0



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the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their
dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.

T. E. Lawrence

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Re: Stus-List CC 30 mk1 rudder design

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I took the yanmar 2gm15 out last fall and replaced it with the the newer
2gm15F fresh water cooled. Makes good hull speed.



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 The A4 is a good engine e for that boat.



 *Joe Della Barba*

 Coquina

 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ron
 and Sharon via CnC-List
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:31 PM
 *To:* Michael Brown via CnC-List
 *Subject:* Stus-List CC 30 mk1 rudder design



 Thankyou to all the members who replied to my questions.

 The cnc-list archives has an amazing amount of information.

 I liked Antoine's reply the best and will be following his advice soon.

 I am confused about the photo of the rudder on Curtis's 1980 mk1.

 I visited a brokers storage lot this week where I saw a 1976  30-1 with a
 fairly conventional rudder.

 Maybe it was custom made. If anyone wants to see the photos email me at
 scam...@shaw.ca

 I'm not interested in buying it as it is a pale yellow color and has the
 original Atomic 4.



 Thanks again

 Ron

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Here is the bottom of my 1980 CC30MK1 HIN # 675

http://s148.photobucket.com/user/LTGoshen/media/March%202012%20Haul%20Out/EastCoastLady3-9-12001_zps6e2a9d0f.jpg.html?sort=2o=0



On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Interesting that you mention the ~ 1976 redesign of the rudder. I have
 looked
 at various rudders from I think a 1972, 1976 and 1980, as well as pictures
 of
 the rudders on CC 30 for sale. They have looked basically the same, the
 swept back scimitar shape.

 What does the high aspect ratio rudder look like? Does anyone have a
 picture of
 one? The redesign was mentioned in a few articles including from the cnc
 archive.

 Michael Brown
 Windburn
 CC 30-1


 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 10:00:17 -0700
 From: Ron and Sharon scam...@shaw.ca
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Stus-List CC 30 mk1 rudder design
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Good morning,
 This is my first entry on the cnc-list. I have 40 yrs. of sailing
 experiece; mostly on Petersons.
 I am presently without a boat and have been looking at older CC 30 mk1's
 (1973-75).
 There are several for sale in my area; asking price about $16,000.
 They seem to be well built and in good structural cond. Most have diesel
 engines.
 My only real concern is the rudder design (swept back, scimitar shaped).
 Does this design cause excessive tiller pressure when reaching in heavy
 air?
 How is it for steering when backing into a marina?
 I see that in 1976 they redesigned the rudder. I have not seen a decent
 1976-78 mk1 for sale in my area yet.
 Do you think I should forget the 1973-75's and wait for a 1976 or later
 one?
 I am looking at boats in this era because they are affordable to me.

 Thanks for any replies.

 Ron
 Nanaimo, BC, Canada


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Stus-List CC 30 MK1 Use standard push/pull cables?

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I have just installed a new tome engine in my 30MK1 The shift cable is good
condition. Disconnected from the shift lever, I get smooth action all the
way threw the stroke. The shift lever on the tranny smooth as well, But
when I hook them up it takes a lot of pressure to move? The old engine I
just took out was a bit hard to shift as well? Me binnacle has a main post
with the chain going to the steering under the cockpit. My fuel cable or my
shift cable don't go through the main pedestal.  My cables go through the
Stainless steel post that mount to the floor, behind the center post. My
cables are thicker than the red cables at the local boat store? And seem to
be of better quality. I found on my cable written (10-75) and that's all?
Can I use the red style to replace the. What holds the Cable sheath inside
the SS tube? How do you replace it? I can see no mounting of the sheath? I
only see the threaded end at the bottom of the shifter knob?

Any help on this would be great. Has anybody had this problem? I need help.
I have spent 4 evenings working on it moving it around trying to re-adjust
it. I'm at my end??
Help...
Thanks, Curtis

1981 CC 30 MK1 (675)



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Re: Stus-List CC 30 MK1 Use standard push/pull cables?

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My old engine was a Yanmar 2gm.  The shiftier was stiff on this engine as
well
I installed the new 2GM20F and the same problem  Stiff shiftier

My shift cable is in the Stainless steal 1/2 leg and not inside the
binnacle.
Thanks for your help I'm not sure which cable to buy? The red cable or find
a black one like is in the boat now? The one in the boat is more heave
duty.




On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

  But when I hook them up it takes a lot of pressure to move

 If the cable is worn or damaged inside it will still likely work reasonable
 well with no load on it, ie disconnected from the transmission.

 What engine do you have?

 Michael Brown
 Windburn
 CC 30-1



 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:07:28 -0400
 From: Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net
 To: Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 MK1 Use standard push/pull cables?
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 There's a little L bracket in the stainless tube which holds the cable
 (I only know of the throttle, as the shift seems to be OK, but I replaced
 the throttle). I seem to remember it is held by the screw near the top
 wooden support, but yours could be different. I'll look today.

 There is nothing at the lever end which should cause resistance. The
 levers are just pivoted on a shaft.

 You have to pull the top of the binnacle up to get the cable out, the
 plate is held by the three screw headed bolts. Once they are removed, you
 can get to the shaft which holds the lever, remove the little cotter pin
 (careful, it can get lost) and remove the lever. The cable end is a
 fork-like piece and is held by a little shaft with another cotter pin. It
 was pretty straight forward once I got the three screws (actually five,
 there are two on the side screwed into the stainless tube) out.

 You may have the same problem I did - the cable rusted from the inside and
 started to disintegrate - it eventually came apart and I had to hold it
 together with duct tape and some plastic spiral cable wrap until I could
 get a replacement. The inside cable was OK, but the outer sheathing came
 apart and when it could no longer hold the cable, there was nothing to push
 against fun!

 Gary
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  Subject: Stus-List CC 30 MK1 Use standard push/pull cables?


  I have just installed a new tome engine in my 30MK1 The shift cable is
 good condition. Disconnected from the shift lever, I get smooth action all
 the way threw the stroke. The shift lever on the tranny smooth as well, But
 when I hook them up it takes a lot of pressure to move? The old engine I
 just took out was a bit hard to shift as well? Me binnacle has a main post
 with the chain going to the steering under the cockpit. My fuel cable or my
 shift cable don't go through the main pedestal.  My cables go through the
 Stainless steel post that mount to the floor, behind the center post. My
 cables are thicker than the red cables at the local boat store? And seem to
 be of better quality. I found on my cable written (10-75) and that's all?
 Can I use the red style to replace the. What holds the Cable sheath inside
 the SS tube? How do you replace it? I can see no mounting of the sheath? I
 only see the threaded end at the bottom of the shifter knob?

  Any help on this would be great. Has anybody had this problem? I need
 help. I have spent 4 evenings working on it moving it around trying to
 re-adjust it. I'm at my end??
  Help...
  Thanks, Curtis

  1981 CC 30 MK1 (675)


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Re: Stus-List shift and throttle levers - bushings?

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Does your cable run threw the center on the binnacle or threw the stainless
steel leg post?


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I'm rejuvenating the pedestal on my 32 and I have an Atomic Four so I'm
 not sure if these are different for diesel powered boats. There is a lot of
 play in both levers, they are the up/down action type. I plan to replace
 the cables, replace the brake pads, replace the bearings and have the
 pedestal powder coated. I figure while I'm in there I might as well do
 whatever it is I need to do to make those levers less floppy. Any advice?

 Thanks,
 Steve
 Suhana, CC 32
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Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?

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mine is a black cable it's a 10 foot by 75.
On May 27, 2014 3:26 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:

 Or go to your reputable auto parts store with the old cable. A Teledyne
 cable is a Teledyne cable. And probably less at the auto parts store than
 at a boat supplier - and more likely to be in stock instead of a special
 order.

 Rick Brass

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  On May 27, 2014, at 12:09, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
 
  Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the
 old one to make sure you have the right ends and length.
 
  Rich
 
  On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:
 
  I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left
 on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both.
  Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable?
 
 
 
  thanks Curtis
 
 
 
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Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?

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I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left on
the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both.
Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable?



thanks Curtis



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Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Yanmar Shift cable?

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That was going to be the plan if I did not get a confident answer.
 I just didn't want to down the boat too long.
Thanks.





On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 In case it helps, just replacing mine too.
 Same pedestal control setup, slightly different diesel (2QM15 with
 Hurth/Kanzaki transmission).
 Morse teleflex, 10 foot length.

 Nate
 Sarah Jean
 1980 30-1
 Siskiwit Bay Marina
 Lake Superior


 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Rich Knowles via CnC-List 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 Curtis, dig the old cable out and go to your marine supplier with the old
 one to make sure you have the right ends and length.

 Rich

  On May 27, 2014, at 12:44, Curtis via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:
 
  I have a CC30 MK1 with a throttle on the right and a shift on my left
 on the Edison pedestal. straight up and down motion on them both.
  Any Idea what cable I would use to replace the shift cable?
 
 
 
  thanks Curtis
 
 
 
  --
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 recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the
 dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with
 open eyes, to make it possible.
 
  T. E. Lawrence
 
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Re: Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine

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Not always. Harmonics on a 30 year boat need the sweet spot.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:

 I understand about sweet spots, but I'd say if you are getting that much
 vibration, something's out of whack.

 Andy
 CC 40
 Peregrine


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 On May 27, 2014, at 12:26, dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 Maybe no problem for the diesel with higher rpm but everything
 connected to it also sees the higher rpm...I like to find the rpm sweet spot
 where everything seems to be running smoth with low vibration, go a hundred
 rpm higher or lower and things will vibrate more on Alianna...actually there
 seems to be 2 sweet spots, one around 1500 for slow leaisurely steaming in
 calm condidtions and another around 2500 for rougher conditions...however I
 can make the boat move faster with higher rpm but vibrations increase and I
 don't like the added noise...I have a 3 blade Autoprop and I figure that my
 prop has preferred rotation speeds or sweet spots where balance is best and
 vibrations are minimized and all sounds right but that's just a guess


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 cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Edd Schillay via CnC-List
 *Sent:* May 27, 2014 1:16 PM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Stus-List RPMs on Your Diesel Engine



 Listers,



 Curious to know what you set as your own personal Max RPMs on
 your diesel engine?  The Enterprise has an Universal M35.



 I used to stay around 2300, but people tell me diesels like
 to be worked and I could go higher. My mechanic said don't be afraid to go
 2500 or more, but I wonder if he's just looking for more repair income :-)



 How much do you push your engine?



 All the best,



 Edd





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 Starship Enterprise

 CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

 City Island, NY

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Re: Stus-List newly documented vessel

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No state can require you to show state reg. numbers on a Federally
documented boat. That is a Federal law. States can still require you to
register your boat, pay an annual fee or property tax, and require you to
display a sticker indicating you have paid the fee or tax.

Here is South Carolina my Vessel is a federal documented boat.
South Carolina still taxes me on the boat but they do not register it if it
is a federal documented boat. However if it in not a federal documented
vessel than a stat registration id required. There is no tax incentive
or benefit for federal registration.
South Carolina  taxes it on the value of the boat minus deprecation to a
set low value of like $250.00  My tax burden is like $117.00
The term Value is the only word to watch out for. The folks at the tax
office have no idea what a 33 year old CC 30 is worth. They use
the purchase price to bring validity to the word worth.


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Bill Bina billb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 No state can require you to show state reg. numbers on a Federally
 documented boat. That is a Federal law. States can still require you to
 register your boat, pay an annual fee or property tax, and require you to
 display a sticker indicating you have paid the fee or tax.

 Bill Bina


 On 4/29/2014 8:08 PM, Rick Brass wrote:

 You'll need to ask the state. Each one seems to do it differently. In
 North Carolina you need to get a state registration number, but do not need
 to actually show the numbers - just the state sticker near the starboard
 bow. I can't recall the state, but at least one requires you show the state
 number even if documented. And Florida requires that you obtain a Florida
 registration and display the Florida number even if documented and your
 home state does not register documented vessels (which was the case here in
 NC until lazy July).

 There is no uniform system. Call the state.

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Re: Stus-List newly documented vessel

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What State Joel?


On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 wrote:

 In New Jersey, a documented vessel need not display the state reg
 numbers.  Just the colored decal to show you registered with the state and
 paid your fee.  Marine Police want to see our decal so I stick it on the
 mast.  Others display it on cabin side cockpit coaming.  It needs to be
 easily visible.


 Chuck
 Resolute
 1990 CC 34R
 Atlantic City, NJ

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 *From: *Jake Brodersen captain_j...@cox.net
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 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:50:34 PM
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 Joel,



 I don't think you need to notify the state.  Definitely remove the
 numbers.  They're so tacky...



 Jake



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 Just got my boat documented with the CG.  Do I notify the state and remove
 the state registration numbers from the bow?



 Joel

 35/3

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Re: Stus-List Test

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Hey Danny,



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 Hi I got bounced this morning just trying again...

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Re: Stus-List 1st 2014 Sailing Trip

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Enjoy your sail. We returned last Monday from 8 days in the BVI's  What a
treat that was. We did have 42 knots and 7 to 8 foot seas 2 out of the 8
days. Great training exercise for my wife and I.I learned that the a anchor
set 7 to 1 will hold in a gale. I just have to trust but verify. My rental
boat did well. the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 36i was a nice boat but seamed
thin compared to the CC30 MK1.
My CC seams to point better as well. Plenty of room and
the shiftier  works better on the Jeanneau.
 However the Jenny was only 2 years old. My CC30 is 33 years old this
year.
My brother-in Law lives in Washington. He tells its beautiful up there
 I hope to sail there one day. Have fun and be safe.
Curt,
1981 CC30 MK1
 HIN#675


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote:

 And?

 Rich

  On Apr 29, 2014, at 19:35, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The best sail I've ever had in my life (50+ years sailing was across the
 straight from Victoria to Port Angelese on a CC 115.

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Stus-List CC 30 MK1

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SO, Its time to change the shift cable on my 1981 CC30 MK1. The cable that
is there now has always been tight and hard to shift. Is there a better
style or different cable to make the shifting easier? I just got back from
the BVI we Where we rented a 36-I and it shifted very nice. I have never
owned a different sail boat and there-fore had nothing to judge by. But now
after a week with great shifting I think its time to change mine out. My
boat has a red cable. my shiftier is on the left of the console and the
throttle is on the right side. The throttle seams fine. Any Suggestions?
Thanks for your help and advice.




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Re: Stus-List CC 30 MK1

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I do have the Ritche style stand I have all ready had it apart one
time to lube the chane on the steering as a maintenance item.

On 4/28/14, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
 It may not be that simple. The machine screws holding my binnacle together
 had welded to the aluminum. It took heat, PB Blaster and an impact
 screwdriver to get it apart so I could get the old cable disconnected. My
 binnacle has the two lever setup like Curtis's. Once that came out, the rest

 was easy and a new cable made things a lot easier. I replace the machine
 screws with bolts and used tuf-gel to hopefully not have the welding problem

 again. However, as the first one lasted 30+ years, it will be up to the next

 owner to make the next change.

 I don't have a Ritchie compass and the shift lever and throttle are aft of
 the compass.

 Gary
 also 30-1
 - Original Message -
 From: Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 11:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 30 MK1


 Take the old cable out, measure it, buy a new one and install it. If you
 can easily measure the length of the existing cable, buy the new one
 first so you can do the rr in one session. You have to remove the compass

 to get at the binnacle end. Assuming you have a Ritchie compass, start
 with the two screws holding the black plastic light cover, lift off the
 stainless housing, and then undo the screws holding the compass to the
 pedestal. The shift lever is then accessible.

 Rich

 On Apr 28, 2014, at 12:04, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 SO, Its time to change the shift cable on my 1981 CC30 MK1. The cable
 that is there now has always been tight and hard to shift. Is there a
 better style or different cable to make the shifting easier? I just got
 back from the BVI we Where we rented a 36-I and it shifted very nice. I
 have never owned a different sail boat and there-fore had nothing to
 judge by. But now after a week with great shifting I think its time to
 change mine out. My boat has a red cable. my shiftier is on the left of
 the console and the throttle is on the right side. The throttle seams
 fine. Any Suggestions?
 Thanks for your help and advice.




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the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their
dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.

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Re: Stus-List CC 30 MK1

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I have three one for throttle one for the kill and one for shift.



On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Wally Bryant w...@wbryant.com wrote:

 I dunno, but red cables tend to be Morse cables.

 I was once told that Volvo/Penta actually made good 'pre-measured' cables
 as well.  I scoffed at the time, but trusted the guy and replaced my
 throttle/tranny cables with those.  Note, I am not endorsing Volvo-Penta
 engines, just the cables.  Those cables have sustained some hard abuse.

 Only Morse made a cable that would work for my engine kill cable. The
 cable hasn't failed but the knob fell off due to corrosion between the knob
 and the bolt.  I will leave the jokes to those who come after me.  (Sorry,
 I'm sitting on the hook watching Stargate reruns and have lost my planet.
  I need to get home to Earth, where they make tequila.)

 Wal


 Curtis wrote:

 My
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Stus-List Hank on conversion to roller? Yes or no

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 if anybody has been reading my post in the last 2 years you know that I'm
green at big boat sailing. I have learned how to sail the CC30 MK1 using
all hank on sails. that's a:
115%
135%
155%
and a 170%
We just got back from a bare boat charter in the BVI. I sailed 7 days on a
Jeanneau 36i with a roller. Man what a dream that roller furling system
was. How much trouble will it be to convert my boat? Could I use one of the
head sails to convert or do I have to buy a new sail? Will all my head
sails become un-usable at that point? It may not be worth the money or the
wast of the old sails? Please comment on this if you k now cost of a
conversion or advice in this process.
Thanks so much for your help.
Curt,

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CC30 MK-1
HIN #  675
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Stus-List CC30 MK1 Holding

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Anybody have the capacity of the holding tank on a CC30 MK1?
My paper work I found shows a 22 gal tank. I think it may be 13 gal's?

Any help ? Thanks in advance.

Curtis.




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Stus-List In-hull transducer

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has anybody mounted a in-hull transducer in the CC30mk1 ?
I need to get this project behind me. I have a ST50 depth traducer already
under the forward bilge cover. Were else could or would be a good spot for
this mount? It needs solid class to shoot threw. I have to 5200 the mount
with the right dead rise angle then fill it with glycerol and should be
good for years.

Please let me know your thoughts.
thanks Curt.

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dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with
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T. E. Lawrence

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Re: Stus-List Untie the lines

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I look forward to Fridays



On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote:

 Very cool videos.  I watched 3 before I noticed the time.  Hope to get
 back to the others, but have to work on my own dream.  Launching Saturday.

 Chuck


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 *From: *Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com
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 *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:53:00 PM
 *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Untie the lines


 I've been following her progress on a weekly basis. I admire her spirit
 and honesty. Big, big job to take on and she has been really honest about
 what's going on and how she is dealing with it. She has some skilz with
 video and editing which makes it an nice video blog to follow.

 I really pulling for her to keep going.

 Best,

 Dave Godwin
 1982 CC 37 - Ronin
 Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
 Ronin's Overdue Refit http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/

 On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard jfriv...@us.ibm.com
 wrote:

 Hey, have you guys been following Nike's blog (Pronounced Neeka) called
 Untie the Lines  on YouTube?

  https://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteSpotPirates

 This is another video blog about someone whom went for it.  This nice
 young German lady sold a bunch of stuff, moved out of the land lubbers
 house and bought a boat to explore the globe.  She's really fun and
 inspiring to watch.  She bought this somewhat derelict Henke Super 10 in
 Panama and going through a MAJOR refit.  Everything on the boat was a major
 project.

 I'm talking EVERYTHING.  Doing the bottom job she found several corrosion
 holes in the Aluminium  yep they had to do some pretty major welding to
 patch the holes..  The mold growing on the teak in the cabin looked like
 Bonsai trees growing out of the cabinets.  (Makes me itch just typing this
 ..)

 Anyway, the videos are nicely edited (No shaky teenage phone cam crap
 here) and great to watch.  She's an impressive (And attractive) 32 year old
 young lady.

 Check it out.

 -Francois
 1990 CC 34+ Take Five
 Lake Lanier, Georgia
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Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

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Dont scratch a scab and it wont bleed...

On 4/10/14, Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com wrote:
 I am 100% certain at least one person on here thinks my job, my political
 views, and the country I live in are the root of all evil. Maybe all of you
 do for all I know!
 Unlike certain lists and forums, this place has been mostly free of off
 topic sniping and flame wars. The worst outbreaks seem to be about old
 sports cars or inflatable cows. A certain place that is known for anarchy
 has some long-standing wars that have included people trying to get other
 people fired from their jobs and accusations of real life major crimes.

 I would love for this list to stay free of that stuff and humbly request
 that this kind of thing cease and desist.

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T. E. Lawrence

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