Stus-List C 30 mk1 cockpit mounted throttle adjustment

[Leeward Rail via CnC-List]

Our 30 mk1 with engine controls on the cockpit side, has a throttle 
detent/notch you can feel as you push it forward.

Anyone else have this?
If so, what is the purpose?

The cable is out of adjustment. I am going to adjust the cable and wonder if 
that detent is to meant to be "startup" position or what.

  I would assume if it is meant to be a start position that there is a 
recommended carb linkage position to match that detent at the throttle lever

Cheers!
Roy

Stus-List C 30 mk1 tiller to rudder post connection

[Charles Ferrari via CnC-List]

I attempted to send a picture of my question but my photo had to high a 
resolution to be posted. My tiller is attached to the rudder post with one 
through bolt. The holes on the post are starting to become oval which allows 
movement. I think there should be some sort of insert which would spread the 
load. Could some one with a tiller photo how theirs' is attached. I'll look 
into copying my photo with a lower resolution that will help.

Charles Ferrari
C 30 mk1
Destrier
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mark I for sale in Port Angeles, WA

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

Too bad it the color I want, I’m renovating one same as yours
Not bad for price too bad it not Canadian

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 6:41 PM Walker Mellema via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm moving up to a bigger boat and so I must sell my C 30 Mark I. The
> Endeavour was a great first boat for me and I've added some upgrades in the
> 3 years I've owned her. She is rigged for single handed sailing and in good
> condition. She is currently located in Port Angeles, WA and priced to sell.
>
> You can see all the details in my Craigslist posting here:
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/d/port-angeles-cc-30-mark-for-sail/7159346912.html
>
> Please contact me if you have any questions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Walker Mellema
> 360-565-6835
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Stus-List C 30 Mark I for sale in Port Angeles, WA

[Walker Mellema via CnC-List]

Hi Folks,

I'm moving up to a bigger boat and so I must sell my C 30 Mark I. The
Endeavour was a great first boat for me and I've added some upgrades in the
3 years I've owned her. She is rigged for single handed sailing and in good
condition. She is currently located in Port Angeles, WA and priced to sell.

You can see all the details in my Craigslist posting here:
https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/d/port-angeles-cc-30-mark-for-sail/7159346912.html

Please contact me if you have any questions.

Regards,

Walker Mellema
360-565-6835
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Stus-List C 30 MKII Shaft Packing Size?

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

Anyone know what size packing material to use for a 30-2?
I had the yard open up the gland for me since it was impossible to move
without the proper sized wrenches and I forgot to ask them to measure it
for me.

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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Speaking of 30-1s, I saw hull #493 (built 1976), named Katherine Patricia, 
moored at Emerald Bay, Santa Catalina Island, California, on Saturday.  She was 
beautiful and her owner is not on this list.  Pics at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ivBtQ1bvQb0VoIqZ3LX6WVXPTA-27PbM.

I’d chartered (a pig of a) Catalina 390 over there for a 4-day weekend, and 
imagine my delight seeing one of Grenadine’s sister ships at my first mooring 
site.

That’s the third SoCal C I saw in two consecutive weekends sailing there.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Oct 8, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about the front piece photo on page 54 of the October issue 
> about the Bas d'Or Lake in Nova Scotia? 
> 
> The boat appears to be a 30-1, sail number 242, if anyone on here knows the 
> owner. But the name on the transom is pretty much unreadable in the photo.
> 
> A 29-1 had two portlights in the cabin side, and the early 27s had a 
> different arrangement of shrouds than the boat in the photo. I'm not sure if 
> any of the larger boats in the 70s came with a tiller instead of a wheel, so 
> I'm pretty sure the boat in the photo is a 30. The caption of the photo only 
> identifies the boat as a "little sloop".
> 
> 
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 1:41 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard 
> Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKI?
> 
> This month’s Cruising World has an awesome photo of a 30? (It could be a 
> 27-29)I’m surprised no one has mentioned it, (unless I’m the only one 
> still reading it)
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI?

[Richard Bush via CnC-List]

 Rick, yes, that's the one... a great photo, even though it isn't my boat!
 
Richard
 s/v Bushmark4: C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 600
Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
 
-Original Message-
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Sent: Mon, Oct 8, 2018 10:02 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI?

Are you talking about the front piece photo on page 54 of the October issue 
about the Bas d'Or Lake in Nova Scotia? 

The boat appears to be a 30-1, sail number 242, if anyone on here knows the 
owner. But the name on the transom is pretty much unreadable in the photo.

A 29-1 had two portlights in the cabin side, and the early 27s had a different 
arrangement of shrouds than the boat in the photo. I'm not sure if any of the 
larger boats in the 70s came with a tiller instead of a wheel, so I'm pretty 
sure the boat in the photo is a 30. The caption of the photo only identifies 
the boat as a "little sloop".


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard via 
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Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 1:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard 
Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKI?

This month’s Cruising World has an awesome photo of a 30? (It could be a 
27-29)I’m surprised no one has mentioned it, (unless I’m the only one still 
reading it)

Richard




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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI?

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Are you talking about the front piece photo on page 54 of the October issue 
about the Bas d'Or Lake in Nova Scotia? 

The boat appears to be a 30-1, sail number 242, if anyone on here knows the 
owner. But the name on the transom is pretty much unreadable in the photo.

A 29-1 had two portlights in the cabin side, and the early 27s had a different 
arrangement of shrouds than the boat in the photo. I'm not sure if any of the 
larger boats in the 70s came with a tiller instead of a wheel, so I'm pretty 
sure the boat in the photo is a 30. The caption of the photo only identifies 
the boat as a "little sloop".


Rick Brass
Washington, NC



-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard via 
CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2018 1:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Richard 
Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKI?

This month’s Cruising World has an awesome photo of a 30? (It could be a 
27-29)I’m surprised no one has mentioned it, (unless I’m the only one still 
reading it)

Richard




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Stus-List C 30 MKI?

[Richard via CnC-List]

This month’s Cruising World has an awesome photo of a 30? (It could be a 
27-29)I’m surprised no one has mentioned it, (unless I’m the only one still 
reading it)

Richard

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> On Oct 7, 2018, at 12:36 PM, Dennis Peters via CnC-List 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> We suffered quite a bit of damage due to a hard collision this season, so I’m 
> trying to source parts to repair. One that I haven’t been able to source is 
> the cast aluminum fairlead for the starboard quarter. 
> 
> Here’s a few pics, including a couple of the port version, which isn’t 
> broken. https://photos.app.goo.gl/qZ8J6Mg6LC9h6kqG6 
> 
> I’ve tried South Shore Yachts and Holland marine (HMP) and they don’t have 
> it. Any leads on a possible source would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dennis
> 
> Dennis Peters
> Sea Plus Plus
> dennis.k.pet...@gmail.com
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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Cowl vent flexible part

[T power via CnC-List]

That's an awesome idea!!

Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Jeffrey Nelson via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 6:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeffrey Nelson
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Cowl vent flexible part

I made mine out of 4" white sewar pipe because my crew kept punting them 
overboard.  Oddly enough, since I've
replaced them, I have only had to replace 1 of the vents since (2 years 
now)...whereas when I was purchasing the rather expensive
vents, it was 2 or 3 a year.

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C 30
   Armdale Y.C.


On Sep 22, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



Where did you get the flexible cowl only?  I only found the whole item and not 
the lost part.  I lost the two at the stern as well.

Ron

Wild Cheri

C 30-1

STL





On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 10:28:23 AM CDT, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:



And, like Gary said, that cowl vent gets in the way.  Mine popped off and went 
overboard in some chaotic moment in a race this year, and I had to get a 
replacement.  Plus I’m always worried those anchor hangers are going to tear a 
sail, but so far so good.



Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO





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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Cowl vent flexible part

[Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List]

I made mine out of 4" white sewar pipe because my crew kept punting them 
overboard.  Oddly enough, since I've
replaced them, I have only had to replace 1 of the vents since (2 years 
now)...whereas when I was purchasing the rather expensive

vents, it was 2 or 3 a year.

Cheers,
   Jeff Nelson
   Muir Caileag
   C 30
   Armdale Y.C.


On Sep 22, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Where did you get the flexible cowl only?  I only found the whole item 
and not the lost part.  I lost the two at the stern as well.


Ron

Wild Cheri

C 30-1

STL

On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 10:28:23 AM CDT, Randy Stafford via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


And, like Gary said, that cowl vent gets in the way.  Mine popped off 
and went overboard in some chaotic moment in a race this year, and I 
had to get a replacement.  Plus I’m always worried those anchor 
hangers are going to tear a sail, but so far so good.


Cheers,

Randy Stafford

S/V Grenadine

C 30-1 #7

Ken Caryl, CO

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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Cowl vent flexible part

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I had to buy the whole part - 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/nicro-ventilation--flexible-pvc-cowl--P012_363_001_004?recordNum=9
 


Cheers,
Randy

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where did you get the flexible cowl only?  I only found the whole item and 
> not the lost part.  I lost the two at the stern as well.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C 30-1
> STL
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 10:28:23 AM CDT, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> And, like Gary said, that cowl vent gets in the way.  Mine popped off and 
> went overboard in some chaotic moment in a race this year, and I had to get a 
> replacement.  Plus I’m always worried those anchor hangers are going to tear 
> a sail, but so far so good.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 But when it does, it's a big problem not a simple cleanup.RonWild CheriC 
30-1STL 
On Thursday, September 13, 2018, 9:30:04 AM CDT, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 
Hi
 
  
 
A friend bought a catamaran and nothing spills
 
  
 
Just a thought
 
  
 
Mike
 
Persistence
 
HAlifax
 
  
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Cleverboy via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:37 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Cleverboy
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?
 
  
 
Gary;
 
  
 
My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running down 
the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure 
what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a 
power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.
 
  
 
Charles Ferrari
 
Destrier
 
From: CnC-List  on behalf of Gary Nylander via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? 
 
 
 
My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race, so 
remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines – spinnaker sheets and so 
forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a small 
indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor locker 
lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.
 
 
 
Gary #593
 
 
 
From: CnC-List  On Behalf OfCleverboy via 
CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Cleverboy 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?
 
 
 
Hello,
 
 
 
I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic 
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth. But 
in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found that the 
deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it appears that the 
opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The bulkhead created the 
space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with hooks that would hold a 
dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.
 
 
 
Charles Ferrari
 
Destrier
 
C mk1
 
From: CnC-List  on behalf of T Smyth via 
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T Smyth
Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? 
 
 
 

C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574
 


  
 
Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
to purchase for this boat?
 
  
 
In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how others 
are solving this problem.
 
  
 
(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
lazarette.)
 
  
 
Thanks for any suggestions.
 
  
 
Tom
 
 
 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[schiller via CnC-List]

Rob,

Our Redwing 35 was originally christened as Red Pepper.  From what I 
understand, Red Pepper was bought in Chicago by a three person team to 
race.  Still can't believe the equipment that she had including Loran C, 
EPIRB.


I met George Cuthbertson in Toronto in 2000 at a C Rendezvous.  He 
said that he remembered those first twelve Redwings as they figured out 
the final configuration.  We loved that boat for the 21 years that we 
had her until the starboard upper chainplate bulkhead blew out and we 
lost the rig.  Now we have a Mark III and really like the updates and 
creature comforts (and how well she sails).  I certainly appreciate your 
design efforts.


Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 9/13/2018 9:40 PM, Rob Ball wrote:
I sailed a lot on the first Redwing 35, Redhead, and we had an over 
length spinnaker pole - so it had to be robust.
As a result, at the right wind angle we could fly the chute And the 
jib and we were wicked fast . . . . .
Sailed the length of Lake Ontario following the wind angle rather than 
the compass in the Lake Ontario International . . . . .
But, alas the rule makers eventually figured out that it was faster 
than they envisioned . . . . .

Cheers,    Rob Ball

On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:32 PM, schiller <mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>> wrote:


Hey, don't laugh.  I still have a Blooper, a reacher, a drifter, a 
spanker, a staysail, a banana staysail and a few others that I may 
have forgotten. Our Redwing 35 was originally purchased to compete in 
the Chicago-Mackinaw race in 1971.  The Spinnaker pole was a tree 
trunk, the reaching strut breaks down into three pieces.  There were 
three #1's, two #2's, a #3, a 1/2 oz spinnaker and a 3/4 oz 
spinnaker.  Most are still hanging from hooks in the barn.  We still 
use the drifter and I gifted the 1/2 oz spinnaker to Glenn Gambel on 
the list for his C 36.


Neil Schiller
Old: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (Dismasted)
New: 1983 C 35-3, Hull #28
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 9/13/2018 10:08 AM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List wrote:


Charles,

The track would be for a staysail and the pole foreguy (downhaul), 
they may have been attached to the same car but usually each had 
their own car on the track.


Since your spinnaker pole only has one bridle they probably did dip 
pole gybes instead of end for end.


If your boat came with bags of old sails one is probably marked 
Staysail, Tallboy, Spinnaker Staysail or Lowboy, they were popular 
in the ‘70s.


The main rule with a staysail is you gain a knot when you put it up 
and you gain a knot when you take it down. J


Who knows, you may even have a Blooper too.

Rick Taillieu

Boatless

Leamington, Ontario

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Cleverboy via CnC-List

*Sent:* September-13-18 09:37
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Cleverboy
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

Gary;

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten 
years. Most of the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a 
track with a car running down the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has 
only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure what that track helped 
control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a power boat 
so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.


Charles Ferrari

Destrier



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Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[Rob Ball via CnC-List]

I sailed a lot on the first Redwing 35, Redhead, and we had an over length 
spinnaker pole - so it had to be robust.
As a result, at the right wind angle we could fly the chute And the jib and we 
were wicked fast . . . . .
Sailed the length of Lake Ontario following the wind angle rather than the 
compass in the Lake Ontario International . . . . .
But, alas the rule makers eventually figured out that it was faster than they 
envisioned . . . . .
Cheers,Rob Ball

On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:32 PM, schiller 
mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>> wrote:

Hey, don't laugh.  I still have a Blooper, a reacher, a drifter, a spanker, a 
staysail, a banana staysail and a few others that I may have forgotten.  Our 
Redwing 35 was originally purchased to compete in the Chicago-Mackinaw race in 
1971.  The Spinnaker pole was a tree trunk, the reaching strut breaks down into 
three pieces.  There were three #1's, two #2's, a #3, a 1/2 oz spinnaker and a 
3/4 oz spinnaker.  Most are still hanging from hooks in the barn.  We still use 
the drifter and I gifted the 1/2 oz spinnaker to Glenn Gambel on the list for 
his C 36.

Neil Schiller
Old: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (Dismasted)
New: 1983 C 35-3, Hull #28
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 9/13/2018 10:08 AM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List wrote:
Charles,

The track would be for a staysail and the pole foreguy (downhaul), they may 
have been attached to the same car but usually each had their own car on the 
track.
Since your spinnaker pole only has one bridle they probably did dip pole gybes 
instead of end for end.
If your boat came with bags of old sails one is probably marked Staysail, 
Tallboy, Spinnaker Staysail or Lowboy, they were popular in the ‘70s.
The main rule with a staysail is you gain a knot when you put it up and you 
gain a knot when you take it down. ☺
Who knows, you may even have a Blooper too.

Rick Taillieu
Boatless
Leamington, Ontario


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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

Gary;

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running down 
the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure 
what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a 
power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.

Charles Ferrari
Destrier



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Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[schiller via CnC-List]

Hey, don't laugh.  I still have a Blooper, a reacher, a drifter, a 
spanker, a staysail, a banana staysail and a few others that I may have 
forgotten.  Our Redwing 35 was originally purchased to compete in the 
Chicago-Mackinaw race in 1971.  The Spinnaker pole was a tree trunk, the 
reaching strut breaks down into three pieces.  There were three #1's, 
two #2's, a #3, a 1/2 oz spinnaker and a 3/4 oz spinnaker.  Most are 
still hanging from hooks in the barn.  We still use the drifter and I 
gifted the 1/2 oz spinnaker to Glenn Gambel on the list for his C 36.


Neil Schiller
Old: 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (Dismasted)
New: 1983 C 35-3, Hull #28
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC

On 9/13/2018 10:08 AM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List wrote:


Charles,

The track would be for a staysail and the pole foreguy (downhaul), 
they may have been attached to the same car but usually each had their 
own car on the track.


Since your spinnaker pole only has one bridle they probably did dip 
pole gybes instead of end for end.


If your boat came with bags of old sails one is probably marked 
Staysail, Tallboy, Spinnaker Staysail or Lowboy, they were popular in 
the ‘70s.


The main rule with a staysail is you gain a knot when you put it up 
and you gain a knot when you take it down. J


Who knows, you may even have a Blooper too.

Rick Taillieu

Boatless

Leamington, Ontario

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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

Gary;

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. 
Most of the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a 
car running down the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle 
for the uphaul. Not sure what that track helped control. I mostly solo 
sail with guest that wish I had a power boat so their drinks wouldn't 
spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was interested in it's function.


Charles Ferrari

Destrier



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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

I believe the track is for a staysail tack.  On my boat (1972 30-1 hull #7) 
there’s a separate padeye on the foredeck, aft of the track, to which I shackle 
a snatch block for the spinnaker pole downhaul.  I’ve flown staysails a couple 
times just for experimentation, and tacked them to the car on the track, but 
haven’t messed with adjusting the car/tack position much.

Regarding the hole in the foredeck at the bow, my boat has a low-profile 
flexible cowl vent there, through which I pass the anchor rode when I need the 
anchor.  I’ve also got the anchor hangers on the bow pulpit (for a danforth 
anchor).  But I don’t like that weight in the bow for racing, so I usually 
store the anchor and rode under a dinette seat, or in a lazarette.

And, like Gary said, that cowl vent gets in the way.  Mine popped off and went 
overboard in some chaotic moment in a race this year, and I had to get a 
replacement.  Plus I’m always worried those anchor hangers are going to tear a 
sail, but so far so good.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Sep 13, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would assume the track would be for a spinnaker downhaul. But… on a 1973 
> boat the mast may be more flexible than the tree trunk I have. It could have 
> been for a line to help bend the mast or to stabilize it. Mine definitely 
> does not need either, but I have a pad eye mounted there for the spin 
> downhaul. There should be a plastic cover in the vee berth area right under 
> that track. If you don’t plan to use the spin pole, you could remove the 
> track and plug the holes and have a cleaner foredeck.
>  
> You do need to get some of those drink holders which hang on the lifelines to 
> avoid spills.
>  
> Gary
>  
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?
>  
> Gary;
>  
> My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
> the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running 
> down the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not 
> sure what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish 
> I had a power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it 
> but was interested in it's function.
>  
> Charles Ferrari
> Destrier
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> CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
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> Cc: Gary Nylander
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?
>  
> My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race, 
> so remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines – spinnaker sheets and 
> so forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a 
> small indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor 
> locker lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.
>  
> Gary #593
>  
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> Cc: Cleverboy mailto:cvf10...@hotmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?
>  
> Hello,
>  
> I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic 
> covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth. 
> But in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found that 
> the deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it appears that 
> the opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The bulkhead 
> created the space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with hooks that 
> would hold a dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.
>  
> Charles Ferrari
> Destrier
> C mk1
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> Cc: T Smyth
> Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?
>  
>> C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574
>>  
>> 
>> Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor 
>> locker" to purchase for this boat?
>>  
>> 
>> In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curio

Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

My Destrier is a time machine. If it was a car, you'd lovingly refer to it as 
"original unrestored"
I appreciate all the information.

Charles Ferrari
Destrier

PS. "original unrestored" is how my wife refers to me also


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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor 
locker?)


If they have hanks they aren’t staysails, they’re jibs that go on the forestay.

The thinking back then was to have short hoist foresails for higher winds, it 
was supposed to keep the centre of effort lower in the rig making the boat more 
stable.

Headsails with a cunningham and sails that were reefable were also popular back 
then, my 25 had them too.



Rick Taillieu

Boatless

Leamington, Ontario







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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor 
locker?)



The boat DID come with 2 "short" sails. One a reefable blade and the other I 
assumed was a 135. It also had a second tack cringle that I used to take the 
"baggies" out of the luff.

So, I would raise those sails without a stay to hank it onto? They both have 
hanks. And thanks for solving my mystery!



Charles Ferari

Destrier


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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

@Gary, I have the tree trunk. It appears to be made from the same stock as the 
34.
@Mike, I do admire the speed and stability that a catamaran brings. I offer 
little umbrellas to help balance their drinks. But other than that, they should 
hold on!

Charles Ferrari
Destrier


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Hi



A friend bought a catamaran and nothing spills



Just a thought



Mike

Persistence

HAlifax



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Gary;



My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running down 
the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure 
what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a 
power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.



Charles Ferrari

Destrier



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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race, so 
remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines – spinnaker sheets and so 
forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a small 
indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor locker 
lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.



Gary #593



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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



Hello,



I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic 
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth. But 
in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found that the 
deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it appears that the 
opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The bulkhead created the 
space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with hooks that would hold a 
dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.



Charles Ferrari

Destrier

C mk1



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Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574



Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
to purchase for this boat?



In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how others 
are solving this problem.



(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
lazarette.)



Thanks for any suggestions.



Tom


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Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

If they have hanks they aren't staysails, they're jibs that go on the
forestay.

The thinking back then was to have short hoist foresails for higher winds,
it was supposed to keep the centre of effort lower in the rig making the
boat more stable.

Headsails with a cunningham and sails that were reefable were also popular
back then, my 25 had them too.

 

Rick Taillieu

Boatless 

Leamington, Ontario

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor
locker?)

 

The boat DID come with 2 "short" sails. One a reefable blade and the other I
assumed was a 135. It also had a second tack cringle that I used to take the
"baggies" out of the luff. 

So, I would raise those sails without a stay to hank it onto? They both have
hanks. And thanks for solving my mystery!

 

Charles Ferari

Destrier

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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hi

A friend bought a catamaran and nothing spills

Just a thought

Mike
Persistence
HAlifax

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

Gary;

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running down 
the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure 
what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a 
power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.

Charles Ferrari
Destrier

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?


My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race, so 
remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines - spinnaker sheets and so 
forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a small 
indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor locker 
lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.



Gary #593



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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



Hello,



I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic 
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth. But 
in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found that the 
deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it appears that the 
opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The bulkhead created the 
space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with hooks that would hold a 
dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.



Charles Ferrari

Destrier

C mk1



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Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574



Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
to purchase for this boat?



In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how others 
are solving this problem.



(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
lazarette.)



Thanks for any suggestions.



Tom


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Re: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

The boat DID come with 2 "short" sails. One a reefable blade and the other I 
assumed was a 135. It also had a second tack cringle that I used to take the 
"baggies" out of the luff.
So, I would raise those sails without a stay to hank it onto? They both have 
hanks. And thanks for solving my mystery!

Charles Ferari
Destrier

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Subject: Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)


Charles,



The track would be for a staysail and the pole foreguy (downhaul), they may 
have been attached to the same car but usually each had their own car on the 
track.

Since your spinnaker pole only has one bridle they probably did dip pole gybes 
instead of end for end.

If your boat came with bags of old sails one is probably marked Staysail, 
Tallboy, Spinnaker Staysail or Lowboy, they were popular in the ‘70s.

The main rule with a staysail is you gain a knot when you put it up and you 
gain a knot when you take it down. :)

Who knows, you may even have a Blooper too.



Rick Taillieu

Boatless

Leamington, Ontario





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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Cleverboy
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



Gary;



My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running down 
the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure 
what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a 
power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.



Charles Ferrari

Destrier
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Stus-List C 30 -Foredeck Track (was Anchor roller and anchor locker?)

[Rick Taillieu via CnC-List]

Charles,

 

The track would be for a staysail and the pole foreguy (downhaul), they may
have been attached to the same car but usually each had their own car on the
track.

Since your spinnaker pole only has one bridle they probably did dip pole
gybes instead of end for end.

If your boat came with bags of old sails one is probably marked Staysail,
Tallboy, Spinnaker Staysail or Lowboy, they were popular in the '70s.

The main rule with a staysail is you gain a knot when you put it up and you
gain a knot when you take it down. J

Who knows, you may even have a Blooper too.

 

Rick Taillieu

Boatless 

Leamington, Ontario

 

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

 

Gary;

 

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most
of the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car
running down the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the
uphaul. Not sure what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with
guest that wish I had a power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't
think i'll miss it but was interested in it's function.

 

Charles Ferrari

Destrier

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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I would assume the track would be for a spinnaker downhaul. But. on a 1973
boat the mast may be more flexible than the tree trunk I have. It could have
been for a line to help bend the mast or to stabilize it. Mine definitely
does not need either, but I have a pad eye mounted there for the spin
downhaul. There should be a plastic cover in the vee berth area right under
that track. If you don't plan to use the spin pole, you could remove the
track and plug the holes and have a cleaner foredeck.

 

You do need to get some of those drink holders which hang on the lifelines
to avoid spills.

 

Gary

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

 

Gary;

 

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most
of the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car
running down the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the
uphaul. Not sure what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with
guest that wish I had a power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't
think i'll miss it but was interested in it's function.

 

Charles Ferrari

Destrier

  _  

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? 

 

My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race,
so remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines - spinnaker sheets and
so forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a
small indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor
locker lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.

 

Gary #593

 

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

 

Hello,

 

I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth.
But in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found
that the deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it
appears that the opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The
bulkhead created the space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with
hooks that would hold a dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.

 

Charles Ferrari

Destrier

C mk1

  _  

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mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: T Smyth
Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? 

 

C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574

 

Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor
locker" to purchase for this boat?

 

In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how
others are solving this problem.

 

(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard
lazarette.)

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

Tom

 

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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

Gary;

My 30 is from 1973 and was raced extensively for its first ten years. Most of 
the fittings and lines I recognize, but, I have a track with a car running down 
the foredeck. The spinnaker poll has only one bridle for the uphaul. Not sure 
what that track helped control. I mostly solo sail with guest that wish I had a 
power boat so their drinks wouldn't spill. I don't think i'll miss it but was 
interested in it's function.

Charles Ferrari
Destrier

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:26 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?


My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race, so 
remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines – spinnaker sheets and so 
forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a small 
indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor locker 
lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.



Gary #593



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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Cleverboy 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



Hello,



I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic 
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth. But 
in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found that the 
deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it appears that the 
opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The bulkhead created the 
space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with hooks that would hold a 
dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.



Charles Ferrari

Destrier

C mk1



From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of T Smyth via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: T Smyth
Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?



C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574



Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
to purchase for this boat?



In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how others 
are solving this problem.



(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
lazarette.)



Thanks for any suggestions.



Tom


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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

My 1980 version had a dorade vent with scoop in that opening. I mostly race,
so remove the scoop because it hangs up various lines - spinnaker sheets and
so forth. I reinstall when I want venting for the chain locker. There is a
small indent for an anchor line in the deck at the forward end of the anchor
locker lid. I keep the anchor in the locker until I am ready to deploy.

 

Gary #593

 

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CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Cleverboy 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

 

Hello,

 

I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth.
But in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found
that the deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it
appears that the opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The
bulkhead created the space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with
hooks that would hold a dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.

 

Charles Ferrari

Destrier

C mk1

  _  

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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: T Smyth
Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker? 

 

C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574





Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor
locker" to purchase for this boat?





In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how
others are solving this problem.





(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard
lazarette.)





Thanks for any suggestions.





Tom

 

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Re: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

Hello,

I have a 1973 30mk1. It came with what originally I assumed was a plastic 
covered opening for a dorade or inspection port in the bow for the V-berth. But 
in climbing all the way forward to check the running lights, I found that the 
deck opening was just forward of a bulkhead up there. So, it appears that the 
opening was there for the installation of a Hawspipe. The bulkhead created the 
space for a chain locker.  I've seen other boats with hooks that would hold a 
dansforth anchor across the bow pulpit.

Charles Ferrari
Destrier
C mk1

From: CnC-List  on behalf of T Smyth via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: T Smyth
Subject: Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574

Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
to purchase for this boat?

In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how others 
are solving this problem.

(When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
lazarette.)

Thanks for any suggestions.

Tom

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Chad Osmond via CnC-List]

It's only used for furlers to make sure there is sufficient angle between
the halyard and the forestay so the halyard doesn't get wrapped up too.


Our 30-2 which is wire to rope has a simple metal bracket holding the
halyard to the mast to get sufficient angles, it seems less expensive then
a full sheve or pulley. You may want to look for something like that.

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018, 2:32 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My 1980 version doesn’t. Must be for a roller furler.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

As I recall, I bought a super flexible fuel hose made by Vetus and replaced the 
entire fill line. I don't remember any major issues. The sender unit also 
worked like a charm... I'll take some pictures next time I'm at the boat...

Cheers,
Aaron
Admiral Maggie
79 30-1
Annapolis, MD




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Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank


I found that one – by the time you placed it over the Moeller vertical molded 
in tube, there was not enough room – maybe my shelf is a bit higher than his?



Beats me, but I’m done.

Gary



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Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:05 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank



https://www.fillernecksupply.com/1-1-2-id-38mm-90-degree-super-fuel-filler-elbow-1.50/



Dennis C.



On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I could not make that fit – how did you bend the input tube?

Gary


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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

My 1980 version doesn’t. Must be for a roller furler.

Gary #593

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Tortuga via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 12:45 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tortuga 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

 

My 1979 30mk1 has a fairlead at the masthead to restrain the Genoa halyard.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvz8yamif0w20j0/Masthead%2003.JPG?dl=0

 

Derek Kennedy

S.V. Tortuga, C 30 mk1 #553 

Ballantynes Cove N.S.

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

Based on that, you might try South Shore Yachts for an exact replacement 
(although my guess is that any decent halyard restrainer will work). 

From: Tortuga via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 12:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Tortuga 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

My 1979 30mk1 has a fairlead at the masthead to restrain the Genoa halyard.
  
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvz8yamif0w20j0/Masthead%2003.JPG?dl=0


Derek Kennedy
S.V. Tortuga, C 30 mk1 #553 
Ballantynes Cove N.S.



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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Tortuga via CnC-List]

My 1979 30mk1 has a fairlead at the masthead to restrain the Genoa halyard.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvz8yamif0w20j0/Masthead%2003.JPG?dl=0

Derek Kennedy
S.V. Tortuga, C 30 mk1 #553
Ballantynes Cove N.S.
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

Schafer makes a halyard restrained. 
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/schaefer--halyard-restrainer-bracket--285538


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


 Original message From: Wade Harrogate via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/5/18  11:27  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Wade Harrogate  Subject: 
Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling 


Hey Everyone,

I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a piece 
of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it was used 
to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against the mast so 
that it would not interfere
 with the rolling or unrolling of the genoa. The piece broke off and I need to 
replace it as my furling is constantly getting caught or hung up now. Is this 
shackle or guide called a Fairlead? I need to buy one asap. As I don't know 
what it looked like, or
 have a reference to what I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks

Wade

C 30 

Silik


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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Without the halyard restrainer the headsail may not furl and unfurl
properly without wrapping the halyard.  Did the whole thing come off or
just the sheave and pin?  The pin is just held in by cotter pins and if
they wear/fall out then the pin can work free and drop the sheave.  Here
are a few pictures that I happen to have of mine.  Its the small sheave
that the blue line runs under.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o7ybogzDUSTLfoBjyk9_Nl0uNtnXGbe4/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cQNgsWrZ8mpXFH4wJRLg8-Bh-SlSijW0/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G1Anc3Fr0tA5POyShj3cMdfDCVlqk-im/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 2:28 PM Wade Harrogate via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
> I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a
> piece of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it
> was used to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against
> the mast so that it would not interfere with the rolling or unrolling of
> the genoa. The piece broke off and I need to replace it as my furling is
> constantly getting caught or hung up now. Is this shackle or guide called a
> Fairlead? I need to buy one asap. As I don't know what it looked like, or
> have a reference to what I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks
> Wade
> C 30
> Silik
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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I found that one – by the time you placed it over the Moeller vertical molded 
in tube, there was not enough room – maybe my shelf is a bit higher than his? 

 

Beats me, but I’m done.

Gary

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 3:05 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

 

https://www.fillernecksupply.com/1-1-2-id-38mm-90-degree-super-fuel-filler-elbow-1.50/

 

Dennis C.

 

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I could not make that fit – how did you bend the input tube?

Gary

 

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

If the Harken Halyard restrainer is too expensive and/or bulky for your 
forestay/mast angle, you can mount as simple bale to the mast that will work as 
well.
 
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C 36 XL/kcb
 
cenel...@aol.com

 
 
-Original Message-
From: Wade Harrogate via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Wade Harrogate 
Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 2:28 pm
Subject: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling



Hey Everyone,
I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a piece 
of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it was used 
to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against the mast so 
that it would not interfere with the rolling or unrolling of the genoa. The 
piece broke off and I need to replace it as my furling is constantly getting 
caught or hung up now. Is this shackle or guide called a Fairlead? I need to 
buy one asap. As I don't know what it looked like, or have a reference to what 
I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks
Wade
C 30 
Silik


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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

https://www.fillernecksupply.com/1-1-2-id-38mm-90-degree-super-fuel-filler-elbow-1.50/

Dennis C.

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:41 PM Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I could not make that fit – how did you bend the input tube?
>
> Gary
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

Halyard restrainer.  

Bill Walker 

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 Wade Harrogate via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hey Everyone,

I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a piece 
of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it was used 
to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against the mast so 
that it would not interfere with the rolling or unrolling of the genoa. The 
piece broke off and I need to replace it as my furling is constantly getting 
caught or hung up now. Is this shackle or guide called a Fairlead? I need to 
buy one asap. As I don't know what it looked like, or have a reference to what 
I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks

Wade

C 30 

Silik

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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I could not make that fit - how did you bend the input tube?

Gary

'80

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Aaron Rouhi via
CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 4:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Aaron Rouhi ; Steve Guiney

Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

 

Years back, I replaced the aluminum tank on my 30-1 with this one from
Moeller Marine. It was a perfect fit:

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MT95C8/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_SC_dp_1

 

Cheers,

Aaron

Admiral Maggie

79' 30-1 

Annapolis, MD

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 8:44 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Steve Guiney
Subject: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank 

 

Hello I'm wondering if anyone replaced their original fuel tank and know the
dimensions of have a Moeller part number?

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

This it?

https://www.mauriprosailing.com/us/product/HAR945.html

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:28 PM Wade Harrogate via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
> I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a
> piece of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it
> was used to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against
> the mast so that it would not interfere with the rolling or unrolling of
> the genoa. The piece broke off and I need to replace it as my furling is
> constantly getting caught or hung up now. Is this shackle or guide called a
> Fairlead? I need to buy one asap. As I don't know what it looked like, or
> have a reference to what I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks
> Wade
> C 30
> Silik
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List]

If you have a Harken system, they make a fitting just for this purpose.  Not 
sure if they call it a fairlead or something else.  Even if your system is not 
Harken, their fitting will probably work. 

From: Wade Harrogate via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 2:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Wade Harrogate 
Subject: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

Hey Everyone,
I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a piece 
of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it was used 
to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against the mast so 
that it would not interfere with the rolling or unrolling of the genoa. The 
piece broke off and I need to replace it as my furling is constantly getting 
caught or hung up now. Is this shackle or guide called a Fairlead? I need to 
buy one asap. As I don't know what it looked like, or have a reference to what 
I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks
Wade
C 30 
Silik



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Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Issue at top of mast when Furling

[Wade Harrogate via CnC-List]

Hey Everyone,
I have a small problem, hoping someone has seen before. I recently had a piece 
of equipment break or fail at the top of my mast. I am pretty sure it was used 
to hold the genoa halyard (which is half wire - half rope) against the mast so 
that it would not interfere with the rolling or unrolling of the genoa. The 
piece broke off and I need to replace it as my furling is constantly getting 
caught or hung up now. Is this shackle or guide called a Fairlead? I need to 
buy one asap. As I don't know what it looked like, or have a reference to what 
I need, any advice would be welcome. Thanks
Wade
C 30
Silik
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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

Years back, I replaced the aluminum tank on my 30-1 with this one from Moeller 
Marine. It was a perfect fit:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MT95C8/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2T1_SC_dp_1

Cheers,
Aaron
Admiral Maggie
79' 30-1
Annapolis, MD



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Subject: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

Hello I'm wondering if anyone replaced their original fuel tank and know the 
dimensions of have a Moeller part number?
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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List]

I don't know if the 30 is like the 27, but when the thanks was leaking I made 
one of Plywood-epoxy and used all the fittings from the previous tank ( Proto 
Tank ), The tough part is to make it fit the unequal sides, I made a model from 
cardboard first.
That was in 1998 and it is still ok.

Sylvain
C MkIII

   On Tuesday, September 4, 2018, 9:13:37 AM EDT, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 
I have replaced my tank. A problem in the original one, being made of aluminum 
and sitting on a piece of plywood, is that it (over 36 years) will develop pin 
holes and leak. Then you get to pump diesel out of your bilge.

A second problem is the original has a elbow welded in the top which allows the 
input hose to exit sideways on the starboard side. I could not find a tank 
which would fit on the shelf which did not have a vertical input – and thus not 
allow the (very not flexible) input hose to turn down in time. I went to a 
smaller Moeller tank (11 gallons) instead of the original 19. Others have 
drilled a fill hole in the cockpit floor and put the filler in straight.

  

The Moeller tank I have was about $175 or so as opposed to some others which 
didn’t appear to fit any better for $400 or more. You can get a bunch of other 
tanks by Googling Moeller and/or chasing down some other manufacturers.

  

Or…. Take your tank out and find an aluminum welder and have a new bottom 
welded on (may be the best overall solution). The rest of the tank was fine, 
just the bottom was perforated.

  

Gary Nylander

30-1 #593

  

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Subject: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

  

Hello I'm wondering if anyone replaced their original fuel tank and know the 
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Re: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I have replaced my tank. A problem in the original one, being made of aluminum 
and sitting on a piece of plywood, is that it (over 36 years) will develop pin 
holes and leak. Then you get to pump diesel out of your bilge.

A second problem is the original has a elbow welded in the top which allows the 
input hose to exit sideways on the starboard side. I could not find a tank 
which would fit on the shelf which did not have a vertical input – and thus not 
allow the (very not flexible) input hose to turn down in time. I went to a 
smaller Moeller tank (11 gallons) instead of the original 19. Others have 
drilled a fill hole in the cockpit floor and put the filler in straight.

 

The Moeller tank I have was about $175 or so as opposed to some others which 
didn’t appear to fit any better for $400 or more. You can get a bunch of other 
tanks by Googling Moeller and/or chasing down some other manufacturers.

 

Or…. Take your tank out and find an aluminum welder and have a new bottom 
welded on (may be the best overall solution). The rest of the tank was fine, 
just the bottom was perforated.

 

Gary Nylander

30-1 #593

 

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Subject: Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

 

Hello I'm wondering if anyone replaced their original fuel tank and know the 
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Stus-List C 30' mk1 replacement fuel tank

[Steve Guiney via CnC-List]

Hello I'm wondering if anyone replaced their original fuel tank and know
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Teak Grab handles on outside of cabin top

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Hi Wade,

I had the exact same problem on my 30 MK I hull #7 (built September 1972) when 
replacing her exterior handrails two offseasons ago.  There’s a screw from the 
inside out, between the cabintop and the starboard bulkhead (or its trim) 
separating the settee from the hanging locker.  I wasn’t going to tear apart 
all that trim to get at that screw.  I removed the old exterior starboard 
handrail destructively from that screw, and clipped off the screw flush with 
the exterior cabintop.  As a result the new replacement handrail is fastened 
with only one screw, instead of two, at that handrail base.  The other screw 
head was under a metal cover button forward of the bulkhead above the shelf 
over the hanging locker.

I was so vexed by the problem initially that I actually called Gert Tiel who 
used to work at C NOTL from the mid-70s onward for advice.  See these 
threads: 
http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2016-November/190761.html 
 
and  http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2017-March/192518.html 


Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO


> On Aug 14, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Wade Harrogate via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I have a question for the group and I am hoping someone has encountered this 
> problem before me.
> I had rain drops coming through my grab handle on the starboard side of my 
> boat. I decided I would take the inside and outside handles off to sand them, 
> varnish and then re-pot all the holes. Problem I ran into was, on the outside 
> grab handle, I could not locate one of the screws as it seems to blocked or 
> behind the bulk head. Does anyone have any knowledge of this and how to get 
> it off? I did find a broken screw where the drip was coming from, but now I 
> am having a problem finishing the job. Thanks for any suggestions, or help.
> Silik - 1974 C 30 Mk1
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Teak Grab handles on outside of cabin top

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

The screws come from the outside and screw into the cabin top.  They have teak 
plugs covering them.  You will have to drill out the plug and redo them when 
you put the grab rails back on.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently in Baltimore for the summer)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Aug 14, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Wade Harrogate via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I have a question for the group and I am hoping someone has encountered this 
> problem before me.
> I had rain drops coming through my grab handle on the starboard side of my 
> boat. I decided I would take the inside and outside handles off to sand them, 
> varnish and then re-pot all the holes. Problem I ran into was, on the outside 
> grab handle, I could not locate one of the screws as it seems to blocked or 
> behind the bulk head. Does anyone have any knowledge of this and how to get 
> it off? I did find a broken screw where the drip was coming from, but now I 
> am having a problem finishing the job. Thanks for any suggestions, or help.
> Silik - 1974 C 30 Mk1
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Stus-List C 30 Mk1 - Teak Grab handles on outside of cabin top

[Wade Harrogate via CnC-List]

Hi Everyone,
I have a question for the group and I am hoping someone has encountered this 
problem before me.
I had rain drops coming through my grab handle on the starboard side of my 
boat. I decided I would take the inside and outside handles off to sand them, 
varnish and then re-pot all the holes. Problem I ran into was, on the outside 
grab handle, I could not locate one of the screws as it seems to blocked or 
behind the bulk head. Does anyone have any knowledge of this and how to get it 
off? I did find a broken screw where the drip was coming from, but now I am 
having a problem finishing the job. Thanks for any suggestions, or help.
Silik - 1974 C 30 Mk1

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Stus-List C 30 - Anchor roller and anchor locker?

[T Smyth via CnC-List]

> C 30 (1974) Hull ID CCY302860574
> 
> Any ideas where I might locate the "optional anchor roller and anchor locker" 
> to purchase for this boat?
> 
> In the current design, apparently there is no anchor locker. Curious how 
> others are solving this problem.
> 
> (When I bought the boat recently, the anchor resided in the starboard 
> lazarette.)
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Tom
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

300 lbs sounds close.

My rigger buddy and I pulled a mast off a deck stepped Hans Christian 38
few months ago.  Crane had a scale.  466 lbs without furlers but with steps
all the way up.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:57 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Yeah Bruce, obviously the mast of a 37+ is considerably heavier.  I was
> really just helping give and basis for an absolute maximum possible weigh.
> More of a, "It has to weight LESS than"
>
> A quick Amazon search proves difficult to find a chain fall less than 3/4
> ton (1500 lbs).  It is my belief that a hoist of this capacity would be
> plenty big enough to accomplish the task of lifting ANY of our masts
>
> Josh
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 3:52 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Is everyone considering the model of the boat here, as we're getting a
>> wide swing in answers.  My C 27. MK III  had a deck stepped mast without
>> a roller furler, and I could move it and get it on a rack with no
>> assistance.  A keel stepped mast like on my 37/40+ would be an entirely
>> different animal,  and it depends on the roller furler as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Date: 3/13/2018 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Persuasion37 <persuasio...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight
>>
>> I don’t know what yours weighs but mine is 399 lbs.  I know this for a
>> fact because the mast crane at the yacht club has a maximum capacity of 400
>> lbs.  LOL
>>
>> Mike
>> PERSUASION
>> C 37 K/CB
>> Long Sault
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:28 PM, gerald field via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30
>> I am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my
>> mast from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to
>> make sure i get a appropriately sized one.
>> Gerald Field
>> C 30 Vagabond
>> Midland Bay Sailing Club
>>
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yeah Bruce, obviously the mast of a 37+ is considerably heavier.  I was
really just helping give and basis for an absolute maximum possible weigh.
More of a, "It has to weight LESS than"

A quick Amazon search proves difficult to find a chain fall less than 3/4
ton (1500 lbs).  It is my belief that a hoist of this capacity would be
plenty big enough to accomplish the task of lifting ANY of our masts

Josh

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 3:52 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Is everyone considering the model of the boat here, as we're getting a
> wide swing in answers.  My C 27. MK III  had a deck stepped mast without
> a roller furler, and I could move it and get it on a rack with no
> assistance.  A keel stepped mast like on my 37/40+ would be an entirely
> different animal,  and it depends on the roller furler as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 3/13/2018 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Persuasion37 <persuasio...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight
>
> I don’t know what yours weighs but mine is 399 lbs.  I know this for a
> fact because the mast crane at the yacht club has a maximum capacity of 400
> lbs.  LOL
>
> Mike
> PERSUASION
> C 37 K/CB
> Long Sault
>
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:28 PM, gerald field via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30
> I am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my
> mast from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to
> make sure i get a appropriately sized one.
> Gerald Field
> C 30 Vagabond
> Midland Bay Sailing Club
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Nate Flesness via CnC-List]

Never weighted my 1980 30-1 mast but I used to pull it annually with a gin
pole and a helper - I would agree with the guesstimates based on swing
momentum and two guys adjusting it on the fore and aft pulpits, etc,
200-300 lbs sounds right on.

Nate

Sarah Jean
1980 30-1

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:28 PM, gerald field via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30.
> I am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my
> mast from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to
> make sure i get a appropriately sized one.
> Gerald Field
> C 30 Vagabond
> Midland Bay Sailing Club
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[bwhitmore via CnC-List]

Is everyone considering the model of the boat here, as we're getting a wide 
swing in answers.  My C 27. MK III  had a deck stepped mast without a roller 
furler, and I could move it and get it on a rack with no assistance.  A keel 
stepped mast like on my 37/40+ would be an entirely different animal,  and it 
depends on the roller furler as well.




Sent from Samsung tablet.

 Original message 
From: Persuasion37 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 3/13/2018  3:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Persuasion37 <persuasio...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight 

I don’t know what yours weighs but mine is 399 lbs.  I know this for a fact 
because the mast crane at the yacht club has a maximum capacity of 400 lbs.  LOL

MikePERSUASION
C 37 K/CBLong Sault
On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:28 PM, gerald field via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30 I am 
going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my mast from 
its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to make sure i get a 
appropriately sized one.Gerald FieldC 30 VagabondMidland Bay Sailing Club
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Persuasion37 via CnC-List]

I don’t know what yours weighs but mine is 399 lbs.  I know this for a fact 
because the mast crane at the yacht club has a maximum capacity of 400 lbs.  LOL

Mike
PERSUASION
C 37 K/CB
Long Sault

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:28 PM, gerald field via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30. I 
> am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my mast 
> from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to make sure 
> i get a appropriately sized one.
> Gerald Field
> C 30 Vagabond
> Midland Bay Sailing Club
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

The standing rigging weighs under 100 lbs, would guess the mast is 200 lbs. I 
normally
disconnect the forestay, coil it and store it on board for the winter to 
protect the Harken
Carbo Foil. I can pick up and carry the mast myself, no problem placing it on a 
rack up
to shoulder height.

To switch from saw horses to a mast dolly I place the dolly beside the mast in 
the middle,
left one end of the mast and pivot the mast on the far sawhorse. If I  end up 
on a higher
spot on the mast racks I pick up one end and put it on the rack, then go to the 
other end
and lift the mast up.

Based on that I have to think it is under 250 pounds.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



From: Randy Stafford  

Hi Gerald, 
 
I don?t have an exact weight for the mast on my 30 MK I, but I would 
guesstimate it?s in the range of 200-250 pounds.  Two guys can lift it but it?s 
a struggle, and they can?t hold it for long or move it very much.  Four or five 
guys can carry it more easily. 
 
Cheers, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 
 
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:28 AM, gerald field via CnC-List 
>  wrote: 
>  
> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30. I 
> am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my mast 
> from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to make sure 
> i get a appropriately sized one. 
> Gerald Field 
> C 30 Vagabond 
> Midland Bay Sailing Club 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

The mast on my 37+ is about 60' long and with a person on each end, 2 men
can barely lift it.  I would guess that it is somewhere around 300 lbs.  If
you bought a chain hoist with a working load limit of 400 or 500 I would
think you would be good to go.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018, 1:29 PM gerald field via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30.
> I am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my
> mast from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to
> make sure i get a appropriately sized one.
> Gerald Field
> C 30 Vagabond
> Midland Bay Sailing Club
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Hi Gerald,

I don’t have an exact weight for the mast on my 30 MK I, but I would 
guesstimate it’s in the range of 200-250 pounds.  Two guys can lift it but it’s 
a struggle, and they can’t hold it for long or move it very much.  Four or five 
guys can carry it more easily.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:28 AM, gerald field via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30. I 
> am going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my mast 
> from its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to make sure 
> i get a appropriately sized one.
> Gerald Field
> C 30 Vagabond
> Midland Bay Sailing Club
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[T power via CnC-List]

I have a 1 1/2 ton chin hoist that easily lifts my C 30 mast. I had two other 
people help me move the mast so I would approximate the mast to be maybe 300 
lbs.


Tom Power<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
Invictus
C 30 MK1
Fredericton, NB

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Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:28:33 PM
To: C List
Cc: gerald field
Subject: Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30. I am 
going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my mast from 
its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to make sure i get a 
appropriately sized one.
Gerald Field
C 30 Vagabond
Midland Bay Sailing Club
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Stus-List C 30 Mast weight

[gerald field via CnC-List]

Does anyone have a idea of the approximate weight of the mast on a C 30. I am 
going to buy a chain hoist that i will mount on a frame for moving my mast from 
its winter stands onto a mast dolly at the club and i want to make sure i get a 
appropriately sized one.Gerald FieldC 30 VagabondMidland Bay Sailing Club
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

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Thanks to everyone for their replies.  All of this information is very helpful.





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  1. Re:  C 30 Mast Step (Michael Brown)
  2. Re:  Keel bolt torque (John Christopher)
  3. Re:  C 30 Mast Step (Edward Levert)
  4. Re:  Keel bolt torque (Josh Muckley)
  5. Re:  Keel bolt torque (John Christopher)
I had though "Live Oak" was a generic term for how some Oaks grew rather than a 
specific species.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_oak

Either way despite the lack of knowing the correct description the right Oak is 
very good for marine use.


Sad but years ago near me in Barrie Ontario we had what was reported to be one 
of the larger stands
of White Oak in Canada. A developer needed to beat a pending municipal law 
concerning cutting of mature
trees so early one morning a team of loggers came in and clear cut the whole 
property. I tried to get some
of the wood knowing its properties. The crew laughed and said I didn't want it, 
they could barely cut it even
with sharp chains.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500
From: Bill Bina - gmail <billbinal...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step
Message-ID: <03803e6a-8ee7-4d53-845a-d02dc3e63...@gmail.com>
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Old ships used Live Oak, which is a very different wood than White Oak.

Bill Bina

Hi Josh,
Were you able to video the process? If so will you upload to YouTube (I’m one 
of your subs) :)?


/J
On Jan 19, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:



I had pretty decent luck torqueing the keel bolts today.  A few of the studs 
were damaged/corroded on the threads extending past the nut but not on the 
threads protected by the nut when fully tightened.  I lubed the rough threads 
with extra thick tef-gel and things seemed to go together smooth enough.  The 
3:1 multiplier was effective but I think a 4:1 or 5:1 would have made the job a 
little easier.  I was definitely glad I brought a 3 foot pipe to help stabilize 
the reaction bar.  It was extremely helpful to have a second person present to 
monitor and stabilize the whole apparatus.  I stand by my statement from last 
night that keeping the operating wrench as close to the multiplier as possible 
minimizes the creation of odd twisting motions.  My concerns of using an output 
drive extension were unfounded and I would encourage anyone who is hesitating, 
to use one.
We were out of the water and set on a block around 9:30am and done with the 
torque by 12:30.  This included removing each nut, cleaning the nut and stud, 
and then reinstalling each one at a time.  Overall a very smooth process but 
the preparation was a very important part.
I used the torque values from the link below as a guide.  316 SS lubricated. 
https://www.fastenal.com/content/feds/pdf/Torque%20of%20Stainless%20Steel,%20Non%20ferrous%20Torque.pdf

Keel bolts (fwd to aft):         Nut                       stud               
torque        3:1 multiplier1 - 1 1/2 (38mm)    1 (25mm)          255 =         
 85 x 32 - 2 3/16 (56mm)  1 1/2 (38mm)  615 =          205 x 33 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 
 1 1/2 (38mm)  615 =          205 x 34 - 2 3/16 (56mm)  1 1/2 (38mm)  615 =     
     205 x 35 - 1 7/8 (47.5mm)1 1/4 (32mm)   465 =          155 x 36 - 2 3/16 
(56mm)  1 1/2 (38mm)  615 =          205 x 37 - 1 1/2 (38mm)    1 (25mm)        
  255 =          85 x 38 - 3/4 (19.5mm)    1/2 (13mm)      38
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk1989 C 37+Solomons, MD


On Jan 2, 2018 3:18 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Ok Guys,Since I have the mast out, this provides the rare opportunity to access 
ALL of the keel bolts.  I've measured each of the bolt and nut diameters and 
checked the archives for torque specs.  I intend to buy a toque multiplier and 
the appropriate sized sockets.  I think I can do it for less than the yard is 
going to charge and I'll come out of it with some tools.  I'll also be able to 
tell myself that it was done correctly.
That being said it sounds like the best practices are are follows:-  be on the 
hard- loosen the bolts one at a time, clean, and lubricate with tef-gel- 
reinstall and torque at progressively higher levels.
I was unable to find the torque spec for my 1.5" bolt in the website but Ken 
H

Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

When the mast step was rebuilt on my 30-1, the professional used fiberglass 
laminate for the stringers. I use the word professional with emphasis.  He was 
the boatright for the Olympic teams in England and China. Wood no mater how 
well sealed in a wet environment makes no sense to me.

Ed Levert
Briarpatch C 35
New Orleans 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I had though "Live Oak" was a generic term for how some Oaks grew rather than 
> a specific species.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_oak
> 
> Either way despite the lack of knowing the correct description the right Oak 
> is very good for marine use.
> 
> 
> Sad but years ago near me in Barrie Ontario we had what was reported to be 
> one of the larger stands
> of White Oak in Canada. A developer needed to beat a pending municipal law 
> concerning cutting of mature
> trees so early one morning a team of loggers came in and clear cut the whole 
> property. I tried to get some
> of the wood knowing its properties. The crew laughed and said I didn't want 
> it, they could barely cut it even
> with sharp chains.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C 30-1
> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500 
> From: Bill Bina - gmail <billbinal...@gmail.com> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step 
> Message-ID: <03803e6a-8ee7-4d53-845a-d02dc3e63...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" 
> 
> Old ships used Live Oak, which is a very different wood than White Oak. 
> 
> Bill Bina 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I had though "Live Oak" was a generic term for how some Oaks grew rather than a 
specific species.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_oak

Either way despite the lack of knowing the correct description the right Oak is 
very good for marine use.


Sad but years ago near me in Barrie Ontario we had what was reported to be one 
of the larger stands
of White Oak in Canada. A developer needed to beat a pending municipal law 
concerning cutting of mature
trees so early one morning a team of loggers came in and clear cut the whole 
property. I tried to get some
of the wood knowing its properties. The crew laughed and said I didn't want it, 
they could barely cut it even
with sharp chains.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:38:23 -0500 
From: Bill Bina - gmail <billbinal...@gmail.com> 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step 
Message-ID: <03803e6a-8ee7-4d53-845a-d02dc3e63...@gmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" 
 
Old ships used Live Oak, which is a very different wood than White Oak. 
 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

Old ships used Live Oak, which is a very different wood than White Oak.

Bill Bina



On 1/19/2018 1:23 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List wrote:
Good white oak is considered to be relatively resistant to water 
penetration, used for canoes and old sailing ships.


https://www.wagnermeters.com/aboutamericanwhiteoakandredoak/

Working it, bending it and staining it ( or getting epoxy into it ) 
has usually been the top complaints.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1


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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Good white oak is considered to be relatively resistant to water penetration, 
used for canoes and old sailing ships.

https://www.wagnermeters.com/aboutamericanwhiteoakandredoak/

Working it, bending it and staining it ( or getting epoxy into it ) has usually 
been the top complaints.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1



From: "Ronald B. Frerker"  
 
 On my 30, I used oak the first time. ?I sealed the ends and faces with epoxy, 
but apparently didn't do a good enough job as it sucked up water. ?Now oak 
bends very nicely when wet, especially if hot. ?Needless to say, within a few 
years I had to replace because the mast was getting too low for the shrouds.I 
used an oily mexican wood called paela (sp?). ?They use it for fence posts and 
it's good for a hundred years. ?Very dense, like ironwood.I had only two 
supports and both rested on the shoulder of the bilge so water could flow 
under. ?I added a third support and did the same.All seems to be 
working.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 On my 30, I used oak the first time.  I sealed the ends and faces with epoxy, 
but apparently didn't do a good enough job as it sucked up water.  Now oak 
bends very nicely when wet, especially if hot.  Needless to say, within a few 
years I had to replace because the mast was getting too low for the shrouds.I 
used an oily mexican wood called paela (sp?).  They use it for fence posts and 
it's good for a hundred years.  Very dense, like ironwood.I had only two 
supports and both rested on the shoulder of the bilge so water could flow 
under.  I added a third support and did the same.All seems to be 
working.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL

On Thursday, January 18, 2018, 9:50:19 PM CST, Collin Ferguson via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping 
into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few questions...
1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast step 
or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of them called 
the mast step?
2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on this 
task.  They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials.  I would like to use 
epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the wood to fit 
in.  If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy.  The original plywood lasted 
40 so I would think it should.  My question is, what type of wood?  I was 
thinking White oak or Mahogany.
3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel?  Of 
the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to the 
base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the bottom 
of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through.  I'm not sure if that 
was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the hose.  There were 
many failed repairs to the original structure.
4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the pieces 
under the mast.  The current setup only had a hose running in there to a manual 
whale pump.  Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in there?  
Thanks,
Collin1974 C 30 MK1LibraBaltimore
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

Agree with Randy in all comments except one. If your mast deposits as much 
water as mine into the bilge, having a pump down at the bottom is necessary, 
but….there is often other junk that gets down there as well and that means you 
need to get under the step to clean out the pump screen. If you take your mast 
out often, then that is not a problem. I would recommend a self-priming pump 
with a hose down there instead. I am in the same position and will be making 
that install as well as (once again) repairing or replacing the supports.

 

Gary Nylander #593

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Randy 
Stafford via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:44 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>; Collin Ferguson 
<cferg...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

 

Hi Collin, responses inline.

 

Cheers,

Randy

 

On Jan 18, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Collin Ferguson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping 
into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few questions...

 

1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast step 
or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of them called 
the mast step?

 

My understanding of the terminology is that the lateral plywood pieces are 
called the mast step supports.  In my boat (C 30 MK I hull #7, built 
September 1972) what sits on top of the supports is an oak block about 2” 
thick, 8” wide, and 16” long.  That is the mast step.  Mounted on top of the 
mast step is an aluminum box that the mast sits in, i.e. the mast box.





2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on this 
task.  They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials.  I would like to use 
epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the wood to fit 
in.  If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy.  The original plywood lasted 
40 so I would think it should.  My question is, what type of wood?  I was 
thinking White oak or Mahogany.

 

I’d think you’d want something super hard.  See 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test.  I considered Ipe and Cumaru 
for new cabintop handrails for Grenadine, but went with traditional teak in the 
end.  Both Ipe and Cumaru are very hard woods, oily which is good for water 
repellency, and less expensive than teak.  But caveat emptor, I’m not expert on 
woods and woodworking.





3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel?  Of 
the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to the 
base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the bottom 
of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through.  I'm not sure if that 
was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the hose.  There were 
many failed repairs to the original structure.

 

I believe the design intent was for the weight and compressive load of the mast 
to be borne by the bilge shoulders, not by the top of the keel stub.  Therefore 
I don’t think it’s super-important for the new supports to rest on the top of 
the keel stub.  Grenadine’s original supports had little contact with the top 
of the keel stub, and her new supports have none.  And it’s important to leave 
space below the supports for water to come forward to that lowest sump under 
the mast step (and for bilge plumbing to pass through).  There’s a term for 
that space, drain holes effectively, but I forget the term.



 

4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the pieces 
under the mast.  The current setup only had a hose running in there to a manual 
whale pump.  Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in there?  

 

Yeah I put an 1100gph Rule in there on my boat.  Described in 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTUlhmbUs4YTZlZnM





Thanks,

 

Collin

1974 C 30 MK1

Libra

Baltimore

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

I used epoxy coated white oak. The particular pieces were hard enough that 
metal working blades
and a file provided the best method for shaping them.

My feeling is that the original bilge pump configuration did not get the last 
2" of water out of the
mast step area so the plywood was wet 7x24 for 30+ years. It also likely went 
through numerous
freeze/thaw cycles every winter. I may have had the same setup, a Whale Guzzler 
in the cockpit
sole and a long hose running down under the mast step.

The PO installed a centrifugal style pump just astern of the mast which 
improved things a bit but
it also could not pump the last 1" out and the water in the out line would flow 
back. 

I installed a Whale Gulper 320 with a remote pickup and electronic sensor. The 
pickup foot has a valve
in it and the sensor runs for about 45 seconds longer after the low point for 
shutoff is detected. There is
now very little water in the bilge.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1




Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 03:49:30 + (UTC) 
From: Collin Ferguson  

My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping 
into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few questions... 
1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast step 
or stringers? ?Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of them called 
the mast step? 
2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on this 
task. ?They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials. ?I would like to use 
epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the wood to fit 
in. ?If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy. ?The original plywood lasted 
40 so I would think it should. ?My question is, what type of wood? ?I was 
thinking White oak or Mahogany. 
3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel? ?Of 
the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to the 
base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the bottom 
of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through. ?I'm not sure if that 
was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the hose. ?There were 
many failed repairs to the original structure. 
4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the pieces 
under the mast. ?The current setup only had a hose running in there to a manual 
whale pump. ?Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in there? ? 
Thanks, 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

This talk of collapsed mast steps has my attention since I currently have
my step removed and access to the stringers below.  I guess C changed
their thought/design process.  There is no wood, only hollow fiberglass
stringers and a large aluminum channel that is bolted in place on top to
act as the step.  I wonder if I need to do any reinforcements while I have
access.  I also wonder if any of these design aspects could be applied to
other's repairs projects.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fg2zKq3pl9dEsjzFH4cu-bQ43KCur0n2/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H7sZ42BLj5oihSSaAkgBo68FsuFidHTq/view?usp=drivesdk

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Jan 18, 2018 10:50 PM, "Collin Ferguson via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was
dropping into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few
questions...

1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast
step or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of
them called the mast step?

2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on
this task.  They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials.  I would like
to use epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the
wood to fit in.  If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy.  The
original plywood lasted 40 so I would think it should.  My question is,
what type of wood?  I was thinking White oak or Mahogany.

3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel?
Of the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to
the base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the
bottom of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through.  I'm not
sure if that was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the
hose.  There were many failed repairs to the original structure.

4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the
pieces under the mast.  The current setup only had a hose running in there
to a manual whale pump.  Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in
there?

Thanks,

Collin
1974 C 30 MK1
Libra
Baltimore

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Did the mast support on Touche' about 15 years ago.  I cleaned out all the
old plywood, made a cardboard form leaving a space underneath for drainage
from forward and laid in a LOT of layers of glass/epoxy.  Not as elegant as
some but effective.  Millennia from now some archaeologist is going to
wonder what some weird shaped solid block of plastic was for.

The most important thing is to have a really good idea of the height of the
finished support.  Measure everything against a convenient reference
point.  If your existing support has subsided, you'll need to estimate by
how much.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
>
> I did a similar repair on my 35 MK I and I think it is pretty much the
> same. On the 35 there are flat areas on either side of the bilge sump and
> the bilge sump was spanned by a piece of wood. The mast step was aluminum
> and not very wide. The structure was essentially a beam with supports on
> each end and the mast step in middle. This was  - IMHO – a really bad way
> to design this structure and drilling a hole to drain water did NOT help at
> all! Like many other 30s and 35s, the wood on my boat got softer and softer
> and the step gradually pushed the wood down.
>
> I repaired my boat with two pieces of ½ or ¾ ply laminated together (been
> a long time) and then a ¼” aluminum plate **the width of the wood** with
> the step fitting welded in the center. My mast step does not try and push
> the wood down into the empty space under it anymore. The center part of it
> could probably rot away with no ill effects.
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina
>
> C 35 MK I
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I did a similar repair on my 35 MK I and I think it is pretty much the same. On 
the 35 there are flat areas on either side of the bilge sump and the bilge sump 
was spanned by a piece of wood. The mast step was aluminum and not very wide. 
The structure was essentially a beam with supports on each end and the mast 
step in middle. This was  - IMHO – a really bad way to design this structure 
and drilling a hole to drain water did NOT help at all! Like many other 30s and 
35s, the wood on my boat got softer and softer and the step gradually pushed 
the wood down.
I repaired my boat with two pieces of ½ or ¾ ply laminated together (been a 
long time) and then a ¼” aluminum plate *the width of the wood* with the step 
fitting welded in the center. My mast step does not try and push the wood down 
into the empty space under it anymore. The center part of it could probably rot 
away with no ill effects.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

Hi Collin, responses inline.

Cheers,
Randy

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Collin Ferguson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping 
> into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few 
> questions...
> 
> 1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast 
> step or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of them 
> called the mast step?

My understanding of the terminology is that the lateral plywood pieces are 
called the mast step supports.  In my boat (C 30 MK I hull #7, built 
September 1972) what sits on top of the supports is an oak block about 2” 
thick, 8” wide, and 16” long.  That is the mast step.  Mounted on top of the 
mast step is an aluminum box that the mast sits in, i.e. the mast box.

> 2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on this 
> task.  They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials.  I would like to use 
> epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the wood to 
> fit in.  If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy.  The original plywood 
> lasted 40 so I would think it should.  My question is, what type of wood?  I 
> was thinking White oak or Mahogany.

I’d think you’d want something super hard.  See 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janka_hardness_test.  I considered Ipe and Cumaru 
for new cabintop handrails for Grenadine, but went with traditional teak in the 
end.  Both Ipe and Cumaru are very hard woods, oily which is good for water 
repellency, and less expensive than teak.  But caveat emptor, I’m not expert on 
woods and woodworking.

> 3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel?  Of 
> the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to the 
> base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the bottom 
> of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through.  I'm not sure if 
> that was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the hose.  There 
> were many failed repairs to the original structure.

I believe the design intent was for the weight and compressive load of the mast 
to be borne by the bilge shoulders, not by the top of the keel stub.  Therefore 
I don’t think it’s super-important for the new supports to rest on the top of 
the keel stub.  Grenadine’s original supports had little contact with the top 
of the keel stub, and her new supports have none.  And it’s important to leave 
space below the supports for water to come forward to that lowest sump under 
the mast step (and for bilge plumbing to pass through).  There’s a term for 
that space, drain holes effectively, but I forget the term.
> 
> 4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the pieces 
> under the mast.  The current setup only had a hose running in there to a 
> manual whale pump.  Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in there? 
>  

Yeah I put an 1100gph Rule in there on my boat.  Described in 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTUlhmbUs4YTZlZnM

> Thanks,
> 
> Collin
> 1974 C 30 MK1
> Libra
> Baltimore
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Re: Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Collin,

If you haven't seen it check out Paul's write up on his own mast step
rebuild.  As for epoxy coated hardwood I suggest G10 instead.  Or at least
a some other  1/2 inch FRP board similar to what Paul used.
http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/MastStep


Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD


On Jan 18, 2018 10:50 PM, "Collin Ferguson via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was
dropping into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few
questions...

1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast
step or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of
them called the mast step?

2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on
this task.  They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials.  I would like
to use epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the
wood to fit in.  If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy.  The
original plywood lasted 40 so I would think it should.  My question is,
what type of wood?  I was thinking White oak or Mahogany.

3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel?
Of the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to
the base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the
bottom of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through.  I'm not
sure if that was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the
hose.  There were many failed repairs to the original structure.

4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the
pieces under the mast.  The current setup only had a hose running in there
to a manual whale pump.  Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in
there?

Thanks,

Collin
1974 C 30 MK1
Libra
Baltimore

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Stus-List C 30 Mast Step

[Collin Ferguson via CnC-List]

My mast step stringers were in very bad shape and the mast plate was dropping 
into the bilge so I'm replacing the step this winter. I have a few questions...
1). Terminology wise, are the lateral plywood supports considered the mast step 
or stringers?  Or is the heavy cast iron plate that sits on top of them called 
the mast step?
2). I've read the very helpful documents about others who have taken on this 
task.  They have used GPO-3 or other non wood materials.  I would like to use 
epoxy coated hardwood because I'm much more comfortable shaping the wood to fit 
in.  If it lasts 20 years I'll be more that happy.  The original plywood lasted 
40 so I would think it should.  My question is, what type of wood?  I was 
thinking White oak or Mahogany.
3). How important is it that the 3 new pieces go all the way to the keel?  Of 
the 3 current supports only the forward most support went all the way to the 
base of the bilge, the other two had enough space between them and the bottom 
of the bilge to pass a large diameter bilge hose through.  I'm not sure if that 
was original or if one of the PO's modified them to run the hose.  There were 
many failed repairs to the original structure.
4). I'm thinking about putting an automatic bilge pump in between the pieces 
under the mast.  The current setup only had a hose running in there to a manual 
whale pump.  Is it a good idea to put a small automatic pump in there?  
Thanks,
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Re: Stus-List C 30, 1973 strut problem

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Google,

buck algonquin strut





Bill

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From: Alfredo Figueroa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Date: 1/14/18  09:35  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Alfredo Figueroa <vientoyv...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Stus-List C 30, 1973 strut problem 

Hi, I need help, my C of 1973, has broken the propeller strut (shaft) 
bracket at the base. I want to buy a new one, but I do not have the model and 
the posible manufacture. 
If some one has experience that want to share, it will help me a lot.
Attach of a similar problem.
Thanks
On Jan 12, 2018 9:46 AM, "Alfredo Figueroa" <vientoyv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I need help, my C of 1973, has broken the propeller strut (shaft) 
bracket at the base. I want to buy a new one, but I do not have the model and 
the posible manufacture. 
If some one has experience that want to share, it will help me a lot.
Attach of a similar problem.
Thanks

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Stus-List C 30, 1973 strut problem

[Alfredo Figueroa via CnC-List]

Hi, I need help, my C of 1973, has broken the propeller strut (shaft)
bracket at the base. I want to buy a new one, but I do not have the model
and the posible manufacture.
If some one has experience that want to share, it will help me a lot.

Attach of a similar problem.
Thanks

On Jan 12, 2018 9:46 AM, "Alfredo Figueroa"  wrote:

> Hi, I need help, my C of 1973, has broken the propeller strut (shaft)
> bracket at the base. I want to buy a new one, but I do not have the model
> and the posible manufacture.
> If some one has experience that want to share, it will help me a lot.
>
> Attach of a similar problem.
> Thanks
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Alejandro De La Pena via CnC-List]

30ft #1 hull build in 1971

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Cleverboy via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The first Camaro?. 6 figures
> The first Dodge Challenger?6 figures, maybe 7
> The first C?,... sadly, not so much
> 
> Charles Ferrari
> Bronx, NY
> C
> Destrier
> 
> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of rick bushie via 
> CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:38:56 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: rick bushie
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30
>  
> The I.D. plate on Anchovy reads as follows:
> 
> 30   1   71
> 
> No zeros, no month.
> 
> Rick Bushie
> Anchovy, 30-1 hull 1
> Tolchester, MD
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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Cleverboy via CnC-List]

The first Camaro?. 6 figures

The first Dodge Challenger?6 figures, maybe 7

The first C?,... sadly, not so much


Charles Ferrari

Bronx, NY

C

Destrier



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Cc: rick bushie
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30

The I.D. plate on Anchovy reads as follows:

30   1   71

No zeros, no month.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 30-1 hull 1
Tolchester, MD

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Re: Stus-List C 30

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The I.D. plate on Anchovy reads as follows:

30   1   71

No zeros, no month.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 30-1 hull 1
Tolchester, MD

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Re: Stus-List C 30

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Awesome, Chris!  I didn’t know about you and your boat before this post of 
yours.  I’d love to see pictures.  There are a bunch of pictures of my boat at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTaUlpUkZJWGt5RVk 


Cheers,
Randy

> On Nov 27, 2017, at 5:20 AM, Chris Hickey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is that I've got hull #5, a1972 model. The number on the ID 
> plate is "300059 72", which I was told means 30(model)005(hull 
> #)9(month-September)  72(year), but this could be completely wrong! 
> 
> Chris
> S/V Seeker
> C 30-1
> Holyrood, NL
> 
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> This article (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review30mk1.htm 
> ) says there were over 
> 800 built.  So does sailboatdata.com  
> (http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1288 
> ).
> 
> I own HIN 30007972 - hull #7, built September 1972.  Rick Bushie on this list 
> has hull #1.  So I’d think hull #19 would have been built later than 1971.
> 
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Edward Levert via CnC-List 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> If anyone is making a list, I think I owned #19, a 1971 hull. The metal 
>> plate is unreadable but when I removed the backrest cushions for the 
>> dinette, both plywood backing plates were marked 19. "Dream Girl" is in New 
>> Orleans currently owned by my brother in law.
>> 
>> Ed Levert
>> C 34 Briarpatch
>> New Orleans
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 5:17 PM Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
>> > wrote:
>> Hull 166 in 1973 here.
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> STL
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 4:41:11 PM CST, Stu via CnC-List 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim
>> that 800 30 MKI's were built.
>> 
>> Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.
>> 
>> Stu
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Chris Hickey via CnC-List]

My understanding is that I've got hull #5, a1972 model. The number on the
ID plate is "300059 72", which I was told means 30(model)005(hull
#)9(month-September)  72(year), but this could be completely wrong!

Chris
S/V Seeker
C 30-1
Holyrood, NL

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This article (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review30mk1.htm) says
> there were over 800 built.  So does sailboatdata.com (http://
> sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1288).
>
> I own HIN 30007972 - hull #7, built September 1972.  Rick Bushie on this
> list has hull #1.  So I’d think hull #19 would have been built later than
> 1971.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Edward Levert via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If anyone is making a list, I think I owned #19, a 1971 hull. The metal
> plate is unreadable but when I removed the backrest cushions for the
> dinette, both plywood backing plates were marked 19. "Dream Girl" is in New
> Orleans currently owned by my brother in law.
>
> Ed Levert
> C 34 Briarpatch
> New Orleans
>
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 5:17 PM Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hull 166 in 1973 here.
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> STL
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 4:41:11 PM CST, Stu via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim
>> that 800 30 MKI's were built.
>>
>> Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.
>>
>> Stu
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Randy Stafford via CnC-List]

This article (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/reviews/review30mk1.htm 
) says there were over 
800 built.  So does sailboatdata.com  
(http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1288 
).

I own HIN 30007972 - hull #7, built September 1972.  Rick Bushie on this list 
has hull #1.  So I’d think hull #19 would have been built later than 1971.

Cheers,
Randy Stafford
S/V Grenadine
C 30-1 #7
Ken Caryl, CO

> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Edward Levert via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> If anyone is making a list, I think I owned #19, a 1971 hull. The metal plate 
> is unreadable but when I removed the backrest cushions for the dinette, both 
> plywood backing plates were marked 19. "Dream Girl" is in New Orleans 
> currently owned by my brother in law.
> 
> Ed Levert
> C 34 Briarpatch
> New Orleans
> 
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 5:17 PM Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> Hull 166 in 1973 here.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> STL
> 
> 
> On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 4:41:11 PM CST, Stu via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim
> that 800 30 MKI's were built.
> 
> Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.
> 
> Stu
> 
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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Steven A. Demore via CnC-List]

Mine is also a 1973 and I assume the last 3 numbers of the serial number is the 
hull number.  If so, mine is hull 155.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Stu [mailto:s...@cncphotoalbum.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C 30

According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim that 800 
30 MKI's were built.

Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.

Stu





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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Edward Levert via CnC-List]

If anyone is making a list, I think I owned #19, a 1971 hull. The metal
plate is unreadable but when I removed the backrest cushions for the
dinette, both plywood backing plates were marked 19. "Dream Girl" is in New
Orleans currently owned by my brother in law.

Ed Levert
C 34 Briarpatch
New Orleans

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 5:17 PM Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hull 166 in 1973 here.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> STL
>
>
> On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 4:41:11 PM CST, Stu via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim
> that 800 30 MKI's were built.
>
> Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.
>
> Stu
>
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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Charlie Nelson via CnC-List]

I believe they produced many of this model--however, there is also a 
possibility that not every number used was sequential.


Some manufacturers in other fields will change the serial number when a minor 
change is made. Thus you might have gaps in the number sequence with some 
numbers not used at all so that the maximum number is not necessarily the total 
number of boats produced. 


Hull #077
1995 C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom
Charlie Nelson
Greenville, NC



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To: Stu via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Ronald B. Frerker <rbfrer...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30





Hull 166 in 1973 here.
Ron
Wild Cheri
STL







On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 4:41:11 PM CST, Stu via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:







According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim

that 800 30 MKI's were built.



Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.



Stu





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Re: Stus-List C 30

[David via CnC-List]

I have an early 400
407 from 1976

Zeilboot 30mk1
David Higgs

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Re: Stus-List C 30

[Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List]

 Hull 166 in 1973 here.RonWild CheriSTL

On Sunday, November 26, 2017, 4:41:11 PM CST, Stu via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim
that 800 30 MKI's were built.

Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.

Stu


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[Stu via CnC-List]

According to Wikipedia (don't know if accurate or official) they claim
that 800 30 MKI's were built.

Mine was a 1973 hull number 133.

Stu


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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

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It wasn’t me

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Mpcbi <mp...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

I am below the dam at the Rockliffe Yacht Club!  Btw did you sell the winter 
enclosure youhad on kijiji if I recall?

Cheers

Maurice

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 23 nov. 2017 à 19:22, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :



NSC or Britannia?



Marek

1994 C270 “Legato”

Ottawa, ON (in NSC)

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Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

Thank you,

We will start off on the Ottawa River in Ontario, mostly evening races and 
weekending and end up on the St-Lawrence seaway when we retire in a couple of 
years!  Would be neat to do the ICW and warmer waters but we shall see, we're 
fairly new to sailing.

Cheers

Maurice


 Original Message 
From: Richard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Richard <bushma...@aol.com<mailto:bushma...@aol.com>>
Sent: Thu, Nov 23, 2017 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

Congrats; where will you be sailing?Sent from my iPhone> On Nov 23, 2017, at 
11:38 AM, Maurice Poulin via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:> > Well there you 
have it!> > An offer has been made and accepted so barring bad results on a 
survey in the spring, we'll be the new owners of a C 30 MKII!  Very excited 
about this step up from our venerable Alberg 30... does feels like a bit of a 
betrayal though :(  But hey, roller furling, more modern rig, diesel, hot 
water, refrigeration, huge head what's not to like.   > > I suspect I will have 
a lot of questions and will seek input on this list often enough!  Will try to 
contribute as well!  > > Cheers, > > Maurice > > >  Original Message > 
From: John Pennie via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>> To: cnc-list 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>> Cc: John Pennie 
<john.pen...@icloud.com<mailto:john.pen...@icloud.com>>> Sent: Mon, Oct 23, 
2017 7:47 pm> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions> > > > First off 
- welcome to the list.  Specific to your three questions:> > > (1) The usual 
suspects for a 30 year old boat - cored hull, rig condition, engine, keel 
joint, de-lamination and portlights.  Have a good yard or a surveyor take a 
long hard look.  I go against conventional wisdom and vote for a good yard over 
a survey.  that’s just me.> (2) Can’t help - its different for everyone. Don’t 
be shy about getting into a berth when boat shopping> (3) I assume you mean the 
Bahamas.  In terms of seaworthiness it will be fine, so yes.  Cargo capacity 
will be the biggest issue but that will be true with any 30’ boat that can 
actually sail.  The tankage issue always amazes me.  My experience is that 
cruisers fall into 2 camps - those that spend 80% of their time in a marina and 
those that spend less than 10%.  Neither group cares about capacity; one for 
obvious reasons, the second because they are more concerned with a plan to 
refill the tanks.  Nobody actually drinks that stuff in the tanks (back to 
cargo).> > > All of the above is FWIW, YMMV and hopefully worth at least what 
you paid for it.> > > If you like the 30 I’d say go for it.  It sails well and 
is well built.  Enjoy, have fun and tell stories.> > > John> > > > > > > > > > 
Message: 2> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400> From: 
mp...@aol.com<mailto:mp...@aol.com>> To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Subject: Stus-List C 30 
MKII> Message-ID: 
<15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net<mailto:15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net>>>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > Greetings,> > New to the list and 
ho

Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

[Mpcbi via CnC-List]

I am below the dam at the Rockliffe Yacht Club!  Btw did you sell the winter 
enclosure youhad on kijiji if I recall?

Cheers

Maurice

Envoyé de mon iPad

> Le 23 nov. 2017 à 19:22, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> a écrit :
> 
>  
> NSC or Britannia?
>  
> Marek
> 1994 C270 “Legato”
> Ottawa, ON (in NSC)
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>  
> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Maurice Poulin 
> via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:48:11 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: mp...@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions
>  
> Thank you,  
> 
> We will start off on the Ottawa River in Ontario, mostly evening races and 
> weekending and end up on the St-Lawrence seaway when we retire in a couple of 
> years!  Would be neat to do the ICW and warmer waters but we shall see, we're 
> fairly new to sailing.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Maurice
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> From: Richard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Richard <bushma...@aol.com>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 23, 2017 2:26 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions
> 
> Congrats; where will you be sailing?Sent from my iPhone> On Nov 23, 2017, at 
> 11:38 AM, Maurice Poulin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:> > Well 
> there you have it!> > An offer has been made and accepted so barring bad 
> results on a survey in the spring, we'll be the new owners of a C 30 MKII!  
> Very excited about this step up from our venerable Alberg 30... does feels 
> like a bit of a betrayal though :(  But hey, roller furling, more modern rig, 
> diesel, hot water, refrigeration, huge head what's not to like.   > > I 
> suspect I will have a lot of questions and will seek input on this list often 
> enough!  Will try to contribute as well!  > > Cheers, > > Maurice > > >  
> Original Message > From: John Pennie via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: John 
> Pennie <john.pen...@icloud.com>> Sent: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm> Subject: 
> Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions> > > > First off - welcome to the 
> list.  Specific to your three questions:> > > (1) The usual suspects for a 30 
> year old boat - cored hull, rig condition, engine, keel joint, de-lamination 
> and portlights.  Have a good yard or a surveyor take a long hard look.  I go 
> against conventional wisdom and vote for a good yard over a survey.  that’s 
> just me.> (2) Can’t help - its different for everyone. Don’t be shy about 
> getting into a berth when boat shopping> (3) I assume you mean the Bahamas.  
> In terms of seaworthiness it will be fine, so yes.  Cargo capacity will be 
> the biggest issue but that will be true with any 30’ boat that can actually 
> sail.  The tankage issue always amazes me.  My experience is that cruisers 
> fall into 2 camps - those that spend 80% of their time in a marina and those 
> that spend less than 10%.  Neither group cares about capacity; one for 
> obvious reasons, the second because they are more concerned with a plan to 
> refill the tanks.  Nobody actually drinks that stuff in the tanks (back to 
> cargo).> > > All of the above is FWIW, YMMV and hopefully worth at least what 
> you paid for it.> > > If you like the 30 I’d say go for it.  It sails well 
> and is well built.  Enjoy, have fun and tell stories.> > > John> > > > > > > 
> > > > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400> From: mp...@aol.com> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKII> Message-ID: 
> <15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net>> Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=utf-8> > Greetings,> > New to the list and hoping to be a 
> new owner for a C 30 MKii 1988. It is a nicely appointed sailboat in great 
> shape for its age and no visible, walk away concerns.  I was hoping for 
> comments from anyone with experience and insights to offer, peeves, joys etc. 
>  that would be super appreciated.> > 3 quick questions though:> > 1) knowing 
> the boat, what would be a definite concern that you would look at, stuff that 
> has failed or gives grief?> 2) The front berth dimension is difficult to 
> assess but it is sufficient for a couple of average size, height?> 3) Would 
> you do a jump to the Caribbean from the ICW on such a boat?> > Such a nice 
> cruiser/racer though!  > > Thank you for any information you can share!> > 
> Maurice Poulin >

Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

NSC or Britannia?



Marek

1994 C270 “Legato”

Ottawa, ON (in NSC)

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From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Maurice Poulin via 
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:48:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: mp...@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

Thank you,

We will start off on the Ottawa River in Ontario, mostly evening races and 
weekending and end up on the St-Lawrence seaway when we retire in a couple of 
years!  Would be neat to do the ICW and warmer waters but we shall see, we're 
fairly new to sailing.

Cheers

Maurice


 Original Message 
From: Richard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Richard <bushma...@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 23, 2017 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

Congrats; where will you be sailing?Sent from my iPhone> On Nov 23, 2017, at 
11:38 AM, Maurice Poulin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:> > Well 
there you have it!> > An offer has been made and accepted so barring bad 
results on a survey in the spring, we'll be the new owners of a C 30 MKII!  
Very excited about this step up from our venerable Alberg 30... does feels like 
a bit of a betrayal though :(  But hey, roller furling, more modern rig, 
diesel, hot water, refrigeration, huge head what's not to like.   > > I suspect 
I will have a lot of questions and will seek input on this list often enough!  
Will try to contribute as well!  > > Cheers, > > Maurice > > >  Original 
Message > From: John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: 
cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: John Pennie <john.pen...@icloud.com>> 
Sent: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 
questions> > > > First off - welcome to the list.  Specific to your three 
questions:> > > (1) The usual suspects for a 30 year old boat - cored hull, rig 
condition, engine, keel joint, de-lamination and portlights.  Have a good yard 
or a surveyor take a long hard look.  I go against conventional wisdom and vote 
for a good yard over a survey.  that’s just me.> (2) Can’t help - its different 
for everyone. Don’t be shy about getting into a berth when boat shopping> (3) I 
assume you mean the Bahamas.  In terms of seaworthiness it will be fine, so 
yes.  Cargo capacity will be the biggest issue but that will be true with any 
30’ boat that can actually sail.  The tankage issue always amazes me.  My 
experience is that cruisers fall into 2 camps - those that spend 80% of their 
time in a marina and those that spend less than 10%.  Neither group cares about 
capacity; one for obvious reasons, the second because they are more concerned 
with a plan to refill the tanks.  Nobody actually drinks that stuff in the 
tanks (back to cargo).> > > All of the above is FWIW, YMMV and hopefully worth 
at least what you paid for it.> > > If you like the 30 I’d say go for it.  It 
sails well and is well built.  Enjoy, have fun and tell stories.> > > John> > > 
> > > > > > > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400> From: 
mp...@aol.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKII> 
Message-ID: <15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net>> Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=utf-8> > Greetings,> > New to the list and hoping to be a 
new owner for a C 30 MKii 1988. It is a nicely appointed sailboat in great 
shape for its age and no visible, walk away concerns.  I was hoping for 
comments from anyone with experience and insights to offer, peeves, joys etc.  
that would be super appreciated.> > 3 quick questions though:> > 1) knowing the 
boat, what would be a definite concern that you would look at, stuff that has 
failed or gives grief?> 2) The front berth dimension is difficult to assess but 
it is sufficient for a couple of average size, height?> 3) Would you do a jump 
to the Caribbean from the ICW on such a boat?> > Such a nice cruiser/racer 
though!  > > Thank you for any information you can share!> > Maurice Poulin > > 
> > > > > ___> > The bills have 
started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  October will be 
our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small contribution to help 
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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

[Maurice Poulin via CnC-List]

Thank you,  

We will start off on the Ottawa River in Ontario, mostly evening races and 
weekending and end up on the St-Lawrence seaway when we retire in a couple of 
years!  Would be neat to do the ICW and warmer waters but we shall see, we're 
fairly new to sailing.

Cheers

Maurice


 Original Message 
From: Richard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Richard <bushma...@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 23, 2017 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

Congrats; where will you be sailing?Sent from my iPhone> On Nov 23, 2017, at 
11:38 AM, Maurice Poulin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:> > Well 
there you have it!> > An offer has been made and accepted so barring bad 
results on a survey in the spring, we'll be the new owners of a C 30 MKII!  
Very excited about this step up from our venerable Alberg 30... does feels like 
a bit of a betrayal though :(  But hey, roller furling, more modern rig, 
diesel, hot water, refrigeration, huge head what's not to like.   > > I suspect 
I will have a lot of questions and will seek input on this list often enough!  
Will try to contribute as well!  > > Cheers, > > Maurice > > >  Original 
Message > From: John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> To: 
cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: John Pennie <john.pen...@icloud.com>> 
Sent: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 
questions> > > > First off - welcome to the list.  Specific to your three 
questions:> > > (1) The usual suspects for a 30 year old boat - cored hull, rig 
condition, engine, keel joint, de-lamination and portlights.  Have a good yard 
or a surveyor take a long hard look.  I go against conventional wisdom and vote 
for a good yard over a survey.  that’s just me.> (2) Can’t help - its different 
for everyone. Don’t be shy about getting into a berth when boat shopping> (3) I 
assume you mean the Bahamas.  In terms of seaworthiness it will be fine, so 
yes.  Cargo capacity will be the biggest issue but that will be true with any 
30’ boat that can actually sail.  The tankage issue always amazes me.  My 
experience is that cruisers fall into 2 camps - those that spend 80% of their 
time in a marina and those that spend less than 10%.  Neither group cares about 
capacity; one for obvious reasons, the second because they are more concerned 
with a plan to refill the tanks.  Nobody actually drinks that stuff in the 
tanks (back to cargo).> > > All of the above is FWIW, YMMV and hopefully worth 
at least what you paid for it.> > > If you like the 30 I’d say go for it.  It 
sails well and is well built.  Enjoy, have fun and tell stories.> > > John> > > 
> > > > > > > Message: 2> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400> From: 
mp...@aol.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKII> 
Message-ID: <15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net>> Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=utf-8> > Greetings,> > New to the list and hoping to be a 
new owner for a C 30 MKii 1988. It is a nicely appointed sailboat in great 
shape for its age and no visible, walk away concerns.  I was hoping for 
comments from anyone with experience and insights to offer, peeves, joys etc.  
that would be super appreciated.> > 3 quick questions though:> > 1) knowing the 
boat, what would be a definite concern that you would look at, stuff that has 
failed or gives grief?> 2) The front berth dimension is difficult to assess but 
it is sufficient for a couple of average size, height?> 3) Would you do a jump 
to the Caribbean from the ICW on such a boat?> > Such a nice cruiser/racer 
though!  > > Thank you for any information you can share!> > Maurice Poulin > > 
> > > > > ___> > The bills have 
started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  October will be 
our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small contribution to help 
keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution --   
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> > All contributions are greatly appreciated!> 
> > ___> > The bills have started 
coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  October will be our fund 
raising month.  Please consider sending a small contribution to help keep this 
list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution --   
https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> > All contributions are greatly appreciated!> 
> > > > ___> > The bills have 
started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  October will be 
our fund raising month.  Please consider s

Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

[Richard via CnC-List]

Congrats; where will you be sailing?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Maurice Poulin via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Well there you have it!
> 
> An offer has been made and accepted so barring bad results on a survey in the 
> spring, we'll be the new owners of a C 30 MKII!  Very excited about this 
> step up from our venerable Alberg 30... does feels like a bit of a betrayal 
> though :(  But hey, roller furling, more modern rig, diesel, hot water, 
> refrigeration, huge head what's not to like.   
> 
> I suspect I will have a lot of questions and will seek input on this list 
> often enough!  Will try to contribute as well!  
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Maurice 
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> From: John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: John Pennie <john.pen...@icloud.com>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions
> 
> 
> 
> First off - welcome to the list.  Specific to your three questions:
> 
> 
> (1) The usual suspects for a 30 year old boat - cored hull, rig condition, 
> engine, keel joint, de-lamination and portlights.  Have a good yard or a 
> surveyor take a long hard look.  I go against conventional wisdom and vote 
> for a good yard over a survey.  that’s just me.
> (2) Can’t help - its different for everyone. Don’t be shy about getting into 
> a berth when boat shopping
> (3) I assume you mean the Bahamas.  In terms of seaworthiness it will be 
> fine, so yes.  Cargo capacity will be the biggest issue but that will be true 
> with any 30’ boat that can actually sail.  The tankage issue always amazes 
> me.  My experience is that cruisers fall into 2 camps - those that spend 80% 
> of their time in a marina and those that spend less than 10%.  Neither group 
> cares about capacity; one for obvious reasons, the second because they are 
> more concerned with a plan to refill the tanks.  Nobody actually drinks that 
> stuff in the tanks (back to cargo).
> 
> 
> All of the above is FWIW, YMMV and hopefully worth at least what you paid for 
> it.
> 
> 
> If you like the 30 I’d say go for it.  It sails well and is well built.  
> Enjoy, have fun and tell stories.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400
> From: mp...@aol.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKII
> Message-ID: <15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> New to the list and hoping to be a new owner for a C 30 MKii 1988. It is a 
> nicely appointed sailboat in great shape for its age and no visible, walk 
> away concerns.  I was hoping for comments from anyone with experience and 
> insights to offer, peeves, joys etc.  that would be super appreciated.
> 
> 3 quick questions though:
> 
> 1) knowing the boat, what would be a definite concern that you would look at, 
> stuff that has failed or gives grief?
> 2) The front berth dimension is difficult to assess but it is sufficient for 
> a couple of average size, height?
> 3) Would you do a jump to the Caribbean from the ICW on such a boat?
> 
> Such a nice cruiser/racer though!  
> 
> Thank you for any information you can share!
> 
> Maurice Poulin 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ___
> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  
> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
> contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution 
> --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
> ___
> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  
> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
> contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution 
> --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ___
> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  
> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
> contribution to help keep this list running.  Use PayPal to send contribution 
> --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
> 
> All contributions are greatly appreciated!
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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions

[Maurice Poulin via CnC-List]

Well there you have it!

An offer has been made and accepted so barring bad results on a survey in the 
spring, we'll be the new owners of a C 30 MKII!  Very excited about this step 
up from our venerable Alberg 30... does feels like a bit of a betrayal though 
:(  But hey, roller furling, more modern rig, diesel, hot water, refrigeration, 
huge head what's not to like.   

I suspect I will have a lot of questions and will seek input on this list often 
enough!  Will try to contribute as well!  

Cheers, 

Maurice 


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From: John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: John Pennie <john.pen...@icloud.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 23, 2017 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List C 30 MKII - 3 questions



First off - welcome to the list.  Specific to your three questions:


(1) The usual suspects for a 30 year old boat - cored hull, rig condition, 
engine, keel joint, de-lamination and portlights.  Have a good yard or a 
surveyor take a long hard look.  I go against conventional wisdom and vote for 
a good yard over a survey.  that’s just me.
(2) Can’t help - its different for everyone. Don’t be shy about getting into a 
berth when boat shopping
(3) I assume you mean the Bahamas.  In terms of seaworthiness it will be fine, 
so yes.  Cargo capacity will be the biggest issue but that will be true with 
any 30’ boat that can actually sail.  The tankage issue always amazes me.  My 
experience is that cruisers fall into 2 camps - those that spend 80% of their 
time in a marina and those that spend less than 10%.  Neither group cares about 
capacity; one for obvious reasons, the second because they are more concerned 
with a plan to refill the tanks.  Nobody actually drinks that stuff in the 
tanks (back to cargo).


All of the above is FWIW, YMMV and hopefully worth at least what you paid for 
it.


If you like the 30 I’d say go for it.  It sails well and is well built.  Enjoy, 
have fun and tell stories.


John









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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400
From: mp...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKII
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Greetings,

New to the list and hoping to be a new owner for a C 30 MKii 1988. It is a 
nicely appointed sailboat in great shape for its age and no visible, walk away 
concerns.  I was hoping for comments from anyone with experience and insights 
to offer, peeves, joys etc.  that would be super appreciated.

3 quick questions though:

1) knowing the boat, what would be a definite concern that you would look at, 
stuff that has failed or gives grief?
2) The front berth dimension is difficult to assess but it is sufficient for a 
couple of average size, height?
3) Would you do a jump to the Caribbean from the ICW on such a boat?

Such a nice cruiser/racer though!  

Thank you for any information you can share!

Maurice Poulin 






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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI Prop Strut

[rick bushie via CnC-List]

Gordon,

Anchovy’s strut broke in half a few years back.  First I looked for a direct 
replacement to the bolted on strut.  When that failed, I had the old strut 
braised back together.  It was beautiful…and broke the first time I left the 
dock.  Finally, I purchased a strut with a straight shank.  I cut a hole 
through the bottom of the boat and glassed it in at the proper angle.  Worked 
great.

Rick Bushie
Anchovy, 1971 30-1, Hull 1
Tolchester, MD
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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI Prop Strut

[Joseph Bognar via CnC-List]

You could try South Shore Yachts . They are located in Virgil Ontario , Canada 
. They were the original service dept for C in Niagara . 

Sent from Joe Bognar


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Gordon Ackland via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to replace the prop strut on my ’73 C 30 (Cassini) and looking for 
> some advice going forward.  Has anyone found a company that either still has 
> one laying around (I know, huge long shot) or knows of someone that still has 
> the mold, etc.  I have tried to contact C aka Waterline and have yet to 
> hear back.  Same goes for Millers Island Props and Deep Blue Yachts.  
> 
> It seems another option is to fabricate one out of stainless but I wanted to 
> check here before I consider that route to understand all my options.  Any 
> advise or direction is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.   
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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI Prop Strut

[Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List]

 Hi,I think our ( C )  struts came from Buck Algonquin, at least tehy seem to 
manufacture every model I've seen on C's : Struts On Hydrasearch 
Recreational-Buck Algonquin

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Struts On Hydrasearch Recreational-Buck Algonquin

Browse Struts in the Hydrasearch Recreational-Buck Algonquin catalog including 
Main Struts,Port & Starboard Stru...
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  SylvainC


On Sunday, October 29, 2017, 1:19:42 PM EDT, Gordon Ackland via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 I need to replace the prop strut on my ’73 C 30 (Cassini) and looking for 
some advice going forward.  Has anyone found a company that either still has 
one laying around (I know, huge long shot) or knows of someone that still has 
the mold, etc.  I have tried to contact C aka Waterline and have yet to hear 
back.  Same goes for Millers Island Props and Deep Blue Yachts.  

It seems another option is to fabricate one out of stainless but I wanted to 
check here before I consider that route to understand all my options.  Any 
advise or direction is much appreciated.

Thank you.  
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Re: Stus-List C 30 MKI Prop Strut

[Sam Salter via CnC-List]

Try Holland Marine or Southshore Yachts

sam
C 26  Liquorice 
Ghost Lake  Alberta 


> On Oct 29, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Gordon Ackland via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to replace the prop strut on my ’73 C 30 (Cassini) and looking for 
> some advice going forward.  Has anyone found a company that either still has 
> one laying around (I know, huge long shot) or knows of someone that still has 
> the mold, etc.  I have tried to contact C aka Waterline and have yet to 
> hear back.  Same goes for Millers Island Props and Deep Blue Yachts.  
> 
> It seems another option is to fabricate one out of stainless but I wanted to 
> check here before I consider that route to understand all my options.  Any 
> advise or direction is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.   
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> 
> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again.  
> October will be our fund raising month.  Please consider sending a small 
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Stus-List C 30 MKI Prop Strut

[Gordon Ackland via CnC-List]

I need to replace the prop strut on my ’73 C 30 (Cassini) and looking for 
some advice going forward.  Has anyone found a company that either still has 
one laying around (I know, huge long shot) or knows of someone that still has 
the mold, etc.  I have tried to contact C aka Waterline and have yet to hear 
back.  Same goes for Millers Island Props and Deep Blue Yachts.  

It seems another option is to fabricate one out of stainless but I wanted to 
check here before I consider that route to understand all my options.  Any 
advise or direction is much appreciated.

Thank you.   
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Re: Stus-List c 30 3 questions

[Maurice Poulin via CnC-List]

Hello again all,

Thank you all for you valuable insights... And Lisle I have looked at replies 
to your queries and that is so useful as well! Best of luck in your search, the 
boat you are looking at has a video which I viewed countless times already!

We have pretty much agreed (the admiral and I) that this boat pretty much fits 
our need for cruising.  We'll try both berth until we figure out our comfort 
zone and the other will become the boudoir!  The ICW and a jump to the Bahamas 
and possibly further into windward and leeward Islands is somewhat of a dream 
but good to know the boat is seaworthy barring storage issues!  

All in all if things work out, it will be a leap into modernity from our 
currently sailed and most beloved 1968, Alberg 30.  So offer, survey and 
commissioning are hopefully in the offing so to speak!

Many thanks again and see you soon as a contributor to this great list!

Maurice 


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From: Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Bruno Lachance <bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com>; Lisle Kingery, PhD 
<lisle.king...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 9:24 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List c 30 3 questions



Hi Lisle,


The 30 mk II is a very nice boat, few years ago we did a road trip to Halifax 
to see tree of them that were for sale being sure that we would find a good one.
I had previously exchanged a lot of mails with Allan Rhéaume that was active on 
the list back then.
 We ended up choosing a 33 mkII. For us, with no kid, the V berth definitely 
felt cramped in the 30, even for a still young couple of medium size. The 
interior layout also bring the salon forward and it also felt a bit small. The 
back cabin is nice, but it doesn't have the ventilation of a front cabin. And 
the 33 mkiii is faster! But with more draft, which we learned to live with. It 
is a more dated design, corner kitchen, no enclosed aft cabin, but it feels 
large and open and has a decent nav table. More storage too. Anyways I'm not 
trying to convince you not to buy it, but do stay pragmatic looking at the boat 
qualities and flaws.


On paper we fell in love with the 30 mkII, but for us the layout was not as 
good as we thought, this "back then euro style" must be super in the 34+.


As for the rudder rebuild, I did mine two years ago and choose to go with 
Phil's foils at Fast composite. The reuse the rudder stock to build a new one. 
Check the video on their web site, very happy with the new rudder, it feels 
amazing, precision in the shape of the foil do make a difference if you are 
into racing or just like to feel your steering.


http://www.fastcomposites.ca/site/marine/foils-a-z/

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33 mkII 
New Richmond, Qc

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 23 oct. 2017 à 22:57, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> a écrit :







Hi Maurice,


You and I are in the (almost) same boat. :)


I'm considering a 1987 C mkii and posted some recent questions (in past 2 
months) on it here and the listmates have been exceedingly helpful as I think 
through the options.


The one I'm looking at is in good shape except the rudder has considerable 
water intrusion. I got a quote for 2-2.5k to recore and glass the rudder 
locally or 5k for South Shore to make a new one in 4-5 weeks.


Which one are you considering?  




When I visited the boat with my 6 year old son, we laid together in the forward 
berth. I could see personally sleeping with a small child up front but I didn't 
think it would work with 2 adults. The aft berth is definitely more roomy and 
would fit 2 adults snugly I think and several members commented on this feature 
relative to comparable boats.


FWIW, in talking with the surveyor and I mentioned that eventually I'd be 
interested in taking it south to the bahamas etc  (we can dream, right?), he 
said without hesitation that it would be capable of making that trip. The sail 
maker I spoke with wasn't as enthusiastic about it and characterized it more as 
a coastal cruiser/racer.
 



Best,


Lisle



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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 11:27:53 -0400
From: mp...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C 30 MKII
Message-ID: <15f49d8eb7d-c0f-f...@webjas-vaa086.srv.aolmail.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Greetings,

New to the list and hoping to be a new owner for a C 30 MKii 1988. It is a 
nicely appointed sailboat in great shape for its age and no visible, walk away 
concerns.  I was hoping for comments from anyone with experience and insights 
to offer, peeves, joys etc.  that would be super appreciated.

3 quick questions though:

1) knowing the boat, what would be a definite concern that you would look at, 
stuff that has failed or gives grief?
2) The front berth dimension is difficult to assess but it is sufficient for a 
couple of average size, height?
3) Would you do a jump to the Caribbean from the ICW on such a boat?