Re: Again: forgotten namespaces problem

2003-06-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Why not just add a parameter which removes them or not, big deal.  No reason
for Yet Another Class.

-Andy

On 6/2/03 9:34 AM, Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 08:57 AM 6/2/2003, you wrote:
 
 Seem not convinced? HTMLserializer that generates wrong output does not
 convince the programmer? I mean, I can understand, if there is nobody
 who has time or the capabilities to solve this bug, but not beeing
 convinced sounds a little strange to me.
 
 
 Don't tell me, tell the xalan babes:
 
 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19933
 
 And read that last comment: even the W3C seems to think that HTML
 documents should contain the namespaces.
 
 quote-from-wiki
 So... what I ended up doing was extending the HTMLSerializer (or whatever
 serializer you're using for your pipelines), and overriding the
 startPrefixMapping and endPrefixMapping methods to do nothing, effectively
 removing all namespaces from my HTML. This also had the added benefit of
 having no performance penalties (and theoretically, a ever-so-slight
 speedup since we no longer process namespaces in our serializer).
 /quote-from-wiki
 
 I have done exactly this before -- does this still work from a purely
 technical perspective?  If so, why wouldn't we just define an
 NoNsHTMLSerializer which extends HTMLSerializer and overrides
 just those two methods?  Then, it's a user decision whether these
 namespaces belong
 in real-world html.
 
 Geoff Howard 
 
 
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Re: Again: forgotten namespaces problem

2003-06-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Bla bla bla bla submit a patch bla bla bla bla

-andy

On 6/3/03 8:02 AM, Alexander Schatten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Conal Tuohy wrote:
 
 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
 
  
 
 Why not just add a parameter which removes them or not, big
 deal.  No reason
 for Yet Another Class.

 
 
 Why provide an _option_ for people to output invalid HTML?
 
 Seriously, isn't it _always_ a bug to output namespaces in the HTML? What
 are the use cases for HTML + namespaces?? Is anyone actually using this
 feature to output HTML with namespace attributes for some obscure purpose?
  
 
 this is what I try to argue for days. some think obviously that it
 should be possible to produce invalid HTML, I  do not know why. however,
 I would be really glad if it would be possible to generate valid HTML
 automatically without needing to write additional stylesheets...
 
 
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Re: writing excel files with merge and coloured cells

2003-03-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yes the colors work.  I do not think I ever implemented merged cells at 
the serializer level.

-Andy

Rapcewicz, Chris wrote:

Hi,

I am currently running Cocoon 2.0.4 on Tomcat 4.1 and I am interested 
in creating excel files which have coloured cells and also cells that 
are merged. I tried generating an xml from gnumeric and using this, 
but found that neither the coloured cells nor the merged cells were 
present.

Before I start trying to debug, I was wondering if this functionality 
is supported?

Thanks,
Chris.


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Re: AW: writing excel files with merge and coloured cells

2003-03-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Thats single threaded btw.  See what happens if a few people hit it at once.

Gerald Michalitz wrote:

I am using the bsf (bean scripting framework) in with I use vb and 
object rexx to create excel and use existing excel files
 
with this you can use ole objects like excel to work with
 
a little sample code:
 
xml-file
 

?xml version=1.0?

!DOCTYPE page [

!ELEMENT page (title?, content)

!ELEMENT title (#PCDATA)

!ELEMENT content (para+, konto)

!ELEMENT para (#PCDATA)

!ELEMENT account (#PCDATA)

!ATTLIST account

number CDATA #REQUIRED


]

?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl?

page

titleXSL-Transformation of a XML-file to a HTML-file or to a 
PDF-file/title

content

paraThis is an example:/para

account number=27/

/content

/page

 
 
xls file
 

!--The component and its script are in the lxslt namespace and define 
the

implementation of the extension.--

lxslt:component prefix=my-ext functions=something

lxslt:script lang=rexx

![CDATA[

/* something rexx - [Object] Rexx, ---gm, 2003-03-06, pitten - austria*/

My_Excel = .OLEObject~New(Excel.Application)

infile = e:\allesmist\dvoexport.xls

My_Excel~WorkBooks~Open(infile)

row = 1

column = 'B'

number = My_Excel~Cells(row,column)~Value

return The amount is= number

My_Excel~WorkBooks~Close

::requires OREXXOLE.CLS

]]

/lxslt:script

/lxslt:component

xsl:template match=account

xsl:value-of select=my-ext:something(string(@account))/ 
/xsl:template

/xsl:stylesheet

 

 

with object rexx or vb or js you can do all what excel/word can do

 

 

gerald

 

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*Betreff:* writing excel files with merge and coloured cells
Hi,

I am currently running Cocoon 2.0.4 on Tomcat 4.1 and I am
interested in creating excel files which have coloured cells and
also cells that are merged. I tried generating an xml from
gnumeric and using this, but found that neither the coloured cells
nor the merged cells were present.
Before I start trying to debug, I was wondering if this
functionality is supported?
Thanks,
Chris.


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Re: Cocoon the solution?

2003-01-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The best thing to do to change this is contribute to the Jakarta POI 
project's HDF component.  jakarta.apache.org/poi  -- HDF is in
its infancy but with contribution could be successful for Cooon 
serializers and generators to transform between the formats!

Darren Petrie wrote:

Cocoon would definately be a good choice technically.  However what 
you'll have to fight is the mindset of people desiring to use MS Word 
as their authoring tool.  You could try to use a tool such as 
DocSoft's (http://www.docsoft.com) Word-to-XML converter.  However it 
creates generic presentation XML and therefore you'll lose the 
control over the look and feel of the site.

I'm in the same battle now of trying to integrate an XML editor for 
people to author with into our business process.  People are 
comfortable with Word and resist change.

Darren

On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 12:43 PM, Ines Robbers wrote:

Hello!

I am wondering whether Cocoon is the solution to my problem:

I am working for a university who wants me to redesign their homepage.
It has to be accessible to everyone (i.e. needs to conform to the Web
Accessibility Guidelines) and be dead easy in maintanance.
The problems I have encountered so far are:
There will be many different people who will edit, update, maintain or
expand the pages.
These people in most cases have never seen an html code.
In fact what they love to do is saving a word doc into html and loading
it onto the server.
But all pages are supposed to be in valid XHTML, controled by CSS.

Is this a case for Cocoon?

Could secretaries load up their word docs (and whatever else they get
into their hands) and the rest Cocoon does for them? I.e. generate XML
from Word and tranform it into valid, accessible XHTML code?

I would be grateful for your opinions!
Do you know of any university who is using Cocoon?

Ines



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Re: Source aggregation by XInclude

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Joerg Heinicke wrote:


Timothy Larson wrote:


You coulde try the caching version of the cinclude transformer in 
place of the non-caching xinclude transformer.
See 
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/cinclude-transformer.html
The only problem I see is that the cinclude transformer does not seem 
to have the xpath features
that the xinclude transformer has.

Tim


Some time ago someone wanted to combine the better code of CInclude 
with the more functionality of XInclude to one IncludeTransformer. Is 
this still on somebody's to do list? Or what's the status?

Yes.  Renewed interest.  It is but the approach that will change ;-)



Joerg


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Re: [HSSF][POI] Gnumeric Conversion Question

2002-11-28 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
ahh.  I meant the unix diff command .. . diff file1 file2

If you're on winblows (which makes me wonder how you're running 
gnumeric) you can get cygwin (www.cygwin.com)
which has most of your friendly unix tools.  Makes winblows 
usablebetween crashes.

Danny Mui wrote:

No i was being silly.. manual diff == eyeballing :)

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:


diff doesn't work?  How odd!

Danny Mui wrote:


Thanks for sharing my manual diff doesn't seem to be working too 
well /grin.

Will bring back what I can come up with.

danny

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

I have a very scientific method for doing this.

Open Gnumeric.  Create a sheet with some garbage in it (but from 
scratch).
Save it
ungzip it (if its gzipped)
open that same sheet
create a merged cell (change nothing else)
save it as something else
ungzip it (if gzipped)
diff 1.xml 2.xml







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Re: [HSSF][POI] Gnumeric Conversion Question

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I have a very scientific method for doing this.

Open Gnumeric.  Create a sheet with some garbage in it (but from scratch).
Save it
ungzip it (if its gzipped)
open that same sheet
create a merged cell (change nothing else)
save it as something else
ungzip it (if gzipped)
diff 1.xml 2.xml

Thats what it does. ;-)  I've not looked at this recently, but if I 
recall its pretty straightforward.

Danny Mui wrote:

Thanks for your quick reply Andrew!  Do you have an inkling on how 
gnumeric interprets merged fields?  I'd rather build that support into 
the serializer than tagging individual cells that I'm going through 
now. I'd prefer to not delve into gnumeric's source (im a java weeny) 
if you've already looked at it.  But since it's a holiday I'll inspect 
the xml some more :).

thanks.

danny

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

Danny Mui wrote:


Using latest Cocoon from CVS and HSSFSerializer separately (not from 
within cocoon).

When setting up merged fields in gnumeric, the HSSF translation does 
not seem to carry them through to the Excel side.



Yes this isn't implemented in the serializer yet.  It is supported by 
HSSF.


I saw the rows/cols attributes in the gnumeric dtd but gnumeric 
doesn't generate those attributes.  I updated EPCell.java (will 
submit to bugzilla shortly) to support merged fields but it's a bit 
of a manual effort to tag cells to be merged (and error prone).



yes.  If its a workable solution I'll apply it.

-Andy



Am I missing something?  I hope to be enlightened!

danny





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Re: [HSSF][POI] Gnumeric Conversion Question

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
diff doesn't work?  How odd!

Danny Mui wrote:


Thanks for sharing my manual diff doesn't seem to be working too well 
/grin.

Will bring back what I can come up with.

danny

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

I have a very scientific method for doing this.

Open Gnumeric.  Create a sheet with some garbage in it (but from 
scratch).
Save it
ungzip it (if its gzipped)
open that same sheet
create a merged cell (change nothing else)
save it as something else
ungzip it (if gzipped)
diff 1.xml 2.xml





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Re: Serializing XML data to Excel format

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Use POI:  jakarta.apache.org/poi  specifically POI::HSSF.

-Andy

nandipinto wrote:


Hi Chris,

I've check this one, but what I need to know is how to use the API (java
class) directly in the my java program.
I know there is one java class called HSSFSerializer, but it only has the
method : setOutputStream(java.io.OutputStream), how do I set the input
stream (which I think is the XML file), call another methods, etc?

thanks,

nandipinto.

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Hi,

Take a look at:
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html

Works quite well.

Chris
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Hi all,

How do I serialize XML data into Excel format using the Cocoon API
   

directly?
 

Thanks for your help.

regards,

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Re: Serializing XML data to Excel format

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'll try to get to that tonight if the HEAD is in currently in working 
order.  I'll probably upgrade things to the latest stable dev build too.

-Andy

Yury Mikhienko wrote:

Excuse me by jump, but I have to reask old question:
Does HSSFSerializer support non-english characters now?

Thanx for advise.

 




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Re: [OT] Microsoft 'Avalon' Framework for Longhorn

2002-10-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
now THAT smells like a clear trademark violation...  

Tony Collen wrote:

Heh, found this interesting.. I wonder how many other frameworks out 
there are named 'Avalon'  ;)

Tony

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Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates has promised for years how Windows will 
allow consumers to access information at your fingertips. With 
Longhorn, the next version of Windows due out in 2005, the company 
will take its first serious stab at delivering on Gates' vision. And a 
new application programming interface (API) framework, code-named 
Avalon, will be at the core of Longhorn's new information-access 
architecture, according to sources.

http://www.wininsider.com/news/comments.aspx?mid=1849





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[Fwd: [Juglist] Monday night - Introduction to Cocoon 2.0]

2002-10-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
(forwarding to POI only because I'll briefly cover the HSSF Serializer
[XLS/Excel] and be glad to answer any questions)
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Triangle Java Users Group Presents:

Introduction to Cocoon 2.0
presented by Conrad D'Cruz and Andrew Oliver

Monday, October 21, 2002
6:30 PM - 9:00 PM
MCNC Auditorium
3021 Cornwallis Road
Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

Abstract:
Apache Cocoon is a web publishing framework that uses Java, XML, and XSLT technologies 
to create server applications. Using
pipelined SAX processing, the applications can be designed for performance and 
scalability.

Cocoon 2.0 supports a strong separation of concerns: content, logic, and style, has a 
centralized configuration system, and provides
a sophisticated caching system.

In this presentation we will cover the basics of Cocoon and provide a detailed 
demonstration of each of the salient features of
Cocoon 2.0.

About Speakers:
Conrad D'Cruz works as a Senior Applications Engineer and designs and implements 
server side J2EE applications for CRM web sites. He
has been an active member of the Triangle JUG since 1998 and recently co-authored a 
book on Cocoon 2.0 published by Sybex in October
2002. He has since recovered from the ordeal of writing the book and would now like to 
give others the benefits of his experiences
over the past 8 months.

Andrew Oliver is a professional cat herder by trade who moonlights as an independent 
software developer
(http://www.superlinksoftware.com). When he's not working on a contract doing 
something web and/or database related, he's hacking on
the Apache POI project (http://jakarta.apache.org) which he co-founded or is hacking 
on Cocoon or playing with a new language called
'D' (http://www.opend.org). You can read more about Andy and his random ramblings 
here: http://www.trilug.org/~acoliver/. Andy is
the current Triangle Java Users Group speaker coordinator, secretary, and acting 
treasurer.

Agenda: 6:30 - 7:00 PM -- Meet, Talk, Snacks
7:00 - 7:15 -- JUG Business and Announcements
7:15 - 8:15 -- Presentation
8:15 - 8:30 -- Discussion with Presenter
9:00 - Doors close


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Re: XLS serializer and non-english characters

2002-10-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

There is a minor problem I have not had time to correct yet.  
encoding is an attribute, but if its set the serializer should check
that its non-us/uk/aus and in that case set encoding to 16-bit.  However
currently it just assumes 8-bit.  I'm under a mountain of to-dos but
thats at the top of my cocoon list.

-Andy

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 07:10, Yury Mikhienko wrote:
 Hello folks!
 
 Can I use non-english characters in xls document (dynamically generated by 
HSSFSerializer)?
 
 I'm trying the following configuration:
 
  map:serializer name=xls src=org.apache.cocoon.serialization.HSSFSerializer 
mime-type=application/vnd.ms-excel
encodingKOI8-R/encoding
  /map:serializer
 
 but it doesn't work :(((
 I have the following symbols (C8=3 2 #:@08=0) in document instead russian text :(((
 
 Can anyone help me?
 
 Thanks.
 -- 
  
 Best regards,
 Yury Mikhienko.
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Re: Cocoon : Content Transformation from WORD/PDF/EXCEL to XML

2002-09-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Rajesh Parekh wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I have a requirement to convert hundreds of unstructured documents in 
 WORD/PDF/TXT/EMAIL formats
 into a structured repository of XML Metadata of the document and the 
 documents itself.
  
 I need to parse each of these documents and extract the relevant 
 information to build a XML metadata
 document for each document.
  
 The XML structured metadata of the underlying document will contain 
 fields like Keywords, Category, Doc Name,
 Author etc.
  
 *Is it possible to use Cocoon and or POI to do this.  And if yes how 
 to use Cocoon to do the extraction. *
  

Pieces of this yes and no.  Right now you'd need to use POI directly as 
we've not written a Cocoon generator for Excel
yet and our read support for Word is at best very immature hence there 
is no Serializer or Generator for it.  

I'm not sure Cocoon is appropriate for what you want to do to be honest. 
 But definetly join the POI list if your interested
in helping develop the word port I'm sure you could suit your needs so 
far as Excel/Doc go.

-Andy


 I am new to Cocoon, and trying to understand the world of 
 transformers/generators etc.
  
 Also could I use Lucene to index the XML documents and build a search 
 engine around it.
  
 I would like to know about the possible ways to do this.
  
 regards
  
 rajesh.
  





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Re: [Summary] Writing an action using XSP

2002-08-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!  You totally and completely 
rock!
Words do not express how much you rock.

Now if someone can figure out how to get this working with XMLForm I'll 
be elated ;-)

-Andy


Litrik De Roy wrote:

Hello All,

I have written a small summary that explains how you can write your own
action using XSP. It is in the Cocoon Wiki at
http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=XSPAction

Litrik De Roy
www.litrik.com




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Re: CInclude bug???

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Incorrect.  This is a bug and the @select does work in Cocoon 2.1.x.  

I have a fix on my local drive but I haven't submitted it yet.  Will do 
so very soon.  

-Andy

Per Kreipke wrote:

Apurva,

  

to make the long story short:

the output has the whole xml file after the section of
the xml file i want to include.

i.e

cinclude:include
src=../../commons/contents/ATTRIBUTES.xml
select=data/AGE/* /

outputs:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
age data age  !-- this is what i want --

data   !-- this is what i DONT want --
  dt text dt
  age data age
/data

Am i doin something wrong or is it a bug??



Not a bug. CInclude does not support selecting just a portion of your XML
model (and neither does XInclude).

E.g. your @select above does nothing.

To do what you want to do, just add a XSLT tranformer _after_ your CInclude,
then in that XSLT logic either:

- match the elements you want with identity templates,

- or, create a generic identity template and use empty matchers for the
elements you _don't_ want.

XSLT makes a clean, generic filtering language.

Note: Cocoon's FilterTransformer does something similar but in a very
restricted way (it basically only is used for paging through data models).

Per


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Re: CInclude bug???

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

And CInclude does support @select now.

Per Kreipke wrote:

Apurva,

I need more sleep: XInclude _does_ in fact allow you to subselect using
XPointer syntax.

See
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/xinclude-transformer.html

for details. Requires sitemap change.

  

-Original Message-
From: Per Kreipke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CInclude bug???


Apurva,



to make the long story short:

the output has the whole xml file after the section of
the xml file i want to include.

i.e

cinclude:include
src=../../commons/contents/ATTRIBUTES.xml
select=data/AGE/* /

outputs:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
age data age  !-- this is what i want --

data   !-- this is what i DONT want --
  dt text dt
  age data age
/data

Am i doin something wrong or is it a bug??
  

Not a bug. CInclude does not support selecting just a portion of your XML
model (and neither does XInclude).

E.g. your @select above does nothing.

To do what you want to do, just add a XSLT tranformer _after_
your CInclude,
then in that XSLT logic either:

- match the elements you want with identity templates,

- or, create a generic identity template and use empty matchers for the
elements you _don't_ want.

XSLT makes a clean, generic filtering language.

Note: Cocoon's FilterTransformer does something similar but in a very
restricted way (it basically only is used for paging through data models).

Per


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Re: CInclude bug??? (And my upcoming patch)

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Patches *should* be submitted to Bugzilla and hence you should catch the 
postings here.
You could also join the Cocoon-cvs mailing list (see webpage for 
details) or catch it on
gmane.org (news-mail-news bridge).  The CVS list is commits, the 
bugzilla mails are patches.

Its a one liner if you want to fix it yourself and recompile:
(someone pointed this out to me but I thought they were wrongsorry I 
was wrong)
in 
xml-cocoon2/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/transformation/CIncludeTransformer.java:

} else {
  // do nothing, will result in the inclusion of the whole
  // document
}

   this.sourceResolver.toSAX(source, consumer);

should read:

} else {
  // Normal flow this will result in the inclusion of the whole
  // document
   this.sourceResolver.toSAX(source, consumer);
}

I've tested it locally and it works nicely.  In a few weeks I'm going to do some 
serious
refactoring of both of these to use the same code base as folows:

CIncludeTransformer - inherit from  IncludeTransformer
XIncludeTransformer /

XInclude and CInclude transformers will be deprecated, and you'll be able to just use 
the
IncludeTransformer for either.  The behavior will be different based on how you 
configure the IncludeTransformer 
or the inherited versions (for backward compatibility) will automatically configure it 
for that behavior).
I'll also submit a set of unit tests for these.  If I have time (read: if the task is 
more exciting
than whichever task I'm procrastinating) I'll upgrade the XIncludeTransformer to match 
the current
specification.

Thanks,


-Andy


apurva zaveri wrote:

Thats great Andy!

Let us know when you submit the fix.

Also is there a way one can find out every time a new
fix or a patch is submitted??? I am still quite new to
cocoon.

-Apurva

--- Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Incorrect.  This is a bug and the @select does work
in Cocoon 2.1.x.  

I have a fix on my local drive but I haven't
submitted it yet.  Will do 
so very soon.  

-Andy

Per Kreipke wrote:



Apurva,

 

  

to make the long story short:

the output has the whole xml file after the


section of


the xml file i want to include.

i.e

cinclude:include
src=../../commons/contents/ATTRIBUTES.xml
select=data/AGE/* /

outputs:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
age data age  !-- this is what i want --

data   !-- this is what i DONT want


--


 dt text dt
 age data age
/data

Am i doin something wrong or is it a bug??
   



Not a bug. CInclude does not support selecting just
  

a portion of your XML


model (and neither does XInclude).

E.g. your @select above does nothing.

To do what you want to do, just add a XSLT
  

tranformer _after_ your CInclude,


then in that XSLT logic either:

- match the elements you want with identity
  

templates,


- or, create a generic identity template and use
  

empty matchers for the


elements you _don't_ want.

XSLT makes a clean, generic filtering language.

Note: Cocoon's FilterTransformer does something
  

similar but in a very


restricted way (it basically only is used for
  

paging through data models).


Per


  

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Re: CInclude bug???

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

That is weird.  It doesn't happen after the fix (I've got both static 
and dynamic includes)

-Andy

apurva zaveri wrote:

One more wierd finding:

This is another place where I am experimneting with
CInclude.

cinclude:include
src=cocoon://commons/contents/emp_table.xml
select=data/dept/* /

the @select in this CInclude transformer
works exactly the way it should. And it is no
different from the previous case.

The only difference is that the previous case had a
fileGenerator with a static xml file (ATTRIBUTES.xml)
wherease over here
(emp_table.xml) is a cocoon pipeline that has a
generator (not a fileGenerator like in previous case)
but a ServletGenerator that generates xml from a
database using an predefined SQL query.

But why should that difference matter?

@select in CInclude transformer does works corretly
with a ServletGenerator behind it but if fileGenerator
is behind it, it does not work.

Is that the nature of the bug???

-Apurva







--- apurva zaveri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Thats great Andy!

Let us know when you submit the fix.

Also is there a way one can find out every time a
new
fix or a patch is submitted??? I am still quite new
to
cocoon.

-Apurva

--- Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Incorrect.  This is a bug and the @select does
  

work


in Cocoon 2.1.x.  

I have a fix on my local drive but I haven't
submitted it yet.  Will do 
so very soon.  

-Andy

Per Kreipke wrote:

  

Apurva,

 



to make the long story short:

the output has the whole xml file after the
  

section of
  

the xml file i want to include.

i.e

cinclude:include
src=../../commons/contents/ATTRIBUTES.xml
select=data/AGE/* /

outputs:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
age data age  !-- this is what i want --

data   !-- this is what i DONT
  

want


--
  

 dt text dt
 age data age
/data

Am i doin something wrong or is it a bug??
   

  

Not a bug. CInclude does not support selecting


just


a portion of your XML
  

model (and neither does XInclude).

E.g. your @select above does nothing.

To do what you want to do, just add a XSLT


tranformer _after_ your CInclude,
  

then in that XSLT logic either:

- match the elements you want with identity


templates,
  

- or, create a generic identity template and use


empty matchers for the
  

elements you _don't_ want.

XSLT makes a clean, generic filtering language.

Note: Cocoon's FilterTransformer does something


similar but in a very
  

restricted way (it basically only is used for


paging through data models).
  

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Re: CInclude bug???

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Will do.

For now see:

http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp

I could have sworn I did it, but I must have left the documentation dir 
out of my patch.  In 3 weeks when
I send in my refactoring of CInclude/XInclude I'll submit that as well.

-Andy

Per Kreipke wrote:

Incorrect.  This is a bug and the @select does work in Cocoon 2.1.x.



Ah.

  

I have a fix on my local drive but I haven't submitted it yet.  Will do
so very soon.



While you're at it, how about updating:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/cinclude-transformer.html

on which I based my answer.

Per

  

to make the long story short:

the output has the whole xml file after the section of
the xml file i want to include.

i.e

cinclude:include
src=../../commons/contents/ATTRIBUTES.xml
select=data/AGE/* /

outputs:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
age data age  !-- this is what i want --

data   !-- this is what i DONT want --
 dt text dt
 age data age
/data

Am i doin something wrong or is it a bug??




Not a bug. CInclude does not support selecting just a portion of your XML
model (and neither does XInclude).

E.g. your @select above does nothing.

To do what you want to do, just add a XSLT tranformer _after_
  

your CInclude,


then in that XSLT logic either:

- match the elements you want with identity templates,

- or, create a generic identity template and use empty matchers for the
elements you _don't_ want.

XSLT makes a clean, generic filtering language.

Note: Cocoon's FilterTransformer does something similar but in a very
restricted way (it basically only is used for paging through
  

data models).


Per


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Re: CInclude bug???

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Specifically:

http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=CInclude

-Andy

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

 Will do.

 For now see:

 http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp

 I could have sworn I did it, but I must have left the documentation 
 dir out of my patch.  In 3 weeks when
 I send in my refactoring of CInclude/XInclude I'll submit that as well.

 -Andy

 Per Kreipke wrote:

 Incorrect.  This is a bug and the @select does work in Cocoon 2.1.x.
   


 Ah.

  

 I have a fix on my local drive but I haven't submitted it yet.  Will do
 so very soon.
   


 While you're at it, how about updating:

 http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/cinclude-transformer.html 


 on which I based my answer.

 Per

  

 to make the long story short:

 the output has the whole xml file after the section of
 the xml file i want to include.

 i.e

 cinclude:include
 src=../../commons/contents/ATTRIBUTES.xml
 select=data/AGE/* /

 outputs:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 age data age  !-- this is what i want --

 data   !-- this is what i DONT want --
 dt text dt
 age data age
 /data

 Am i doin something wrong or is it a bug??


   

 Not a bug. CInclude does not support selecting just a portion of 
 your XML
 model (and neither does XInclude).

 E.g. your @select above does nothing.

 To do what you want to do, just add a XSLT tranformer _after_
 

 your CInclude,
   

 then in that XSLT logic either:

 - match the elements you want with identity templates,

 - or, create a generic identity template and use empty matchers for 
 the
 elements you _don't_ want.

 XSLT makes a clean, generic filtering language.

 Note: Cocoon's FilterTransformer does something similar but in a very
 restricted way (it basically only is used for paging through
 

 data models).
   

 Per


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Loading data in an Action with XMLForm

2002-08-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi all,

I'm trying to make all the forms on 
www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/ support a modify 
mode.  In order to do that I need to let the user enter his name and 
password, submit, and then retrieve the rest of the data and populate it 
into the next page's form.  I've been trying to do this by putting a 
call to getForm().setValue(/street,123 cherry tree lane) in the call 
to public Map perform(); but that doesn't seem to be working.  Nor does 
((UserBean)getForm().getModel()).setStreet(123 cherry tree lane).

So how do I populate data in the next form during the process of the 
previous?

Thank you kindly,

-Andy

Relevant excerpts:

 /**
   * Invoked after form population
   *
   * Semanticly similar to Struts Action.perform()
   *
   * Take appropriate action based on the command
   *
   */
  public Map perform ()
  {

// get the actual model which this Form encapsulates
// and apply additional buziness logic to the model
UserBean  jBean = (UserBean) getForm().getModel();
//jBean.incrementCount();

// set the page control flow parameter
// according to the validation result
if ( getCommand().equals( CMD_NEXT ) 
  getForm().getViolations () != null )
{
  // errors, back to the same page
  return page( getFormView() );
}
else
{
  // validation passed
  // continue with control flow

  // clear validation left overs in case the user
  // did not press the Next button
  getForm().clearViolations();

  // get the user submitted command (through a submit button)
  String command = getCommand();
  // get the form view which was submitted
  String formView = getFormView();

  if ( formView.equals ( VIEW_BUYERREG ) ) {
if ( command.equals( CMD_NEXT )  isModify() == false ) {
  return page(  VIEW_CONFIRM );
} else if (command.equals( CMD_NEXT ) ) {
  UserBean  bean = (UserBean) getForm().getModel();
  if ( loadBuyerReg(bean) ) {
 Map  page = page(VIEW_BUYERREG);
 page.put(/email,[EMAIL PROTECTED]);
 return page;
  } else {
 return page(VIEW_MODIFY);
  }
}
  }

  // apply control flow rules
  if ( formView.equals ( VIEW_CONFIRM ) ) {
if ( command.equals( CMD_NEXT ) ) {
  try {registerUser(jBean);} catch (Exception e) {
 e.printStackTrace();
 return page( VIEW_FAILED );
  }
  return page(  VIEW_THANKS );
}
  }
}

// should never reach this statement
return page( VIEW_BUYERREG );

  }



  private boolean loadBuyerReg(UserBean userbean) {
  Form form = getForm();
  userbean.setUserName(BlaBla);
  form.setValue(/userName,blabla);
  userbean.setEmail([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
  form.setValue(/email,[EMAIL PROTECTED]);
  form.save ( getObjectModel(), getFormScope() );
  userbean.setStreet(123 bla);
  userbean.setState(FL);
  userbean.setZip(13456);
  return true;
  }





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Re: SQLTransformer good, ESQL bad

2002-08-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

From the information provided it is not immediately apparent to me what
your problem is.  But from crude benchmarking I've done.. ESQL is
SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the SQLTransformer..  To experience this, use
apbench on the http://localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/poi/statetax.xls and
statetax2.xls (filenames are approximate) examples that come with
cocoon.  The statetax2 example is more complicated and has groupings and
stuff, but its STILL several times faster than the SQLTransformer
version.  I found my results to be consistent when used other ways as
well.

SQLTransformer is slow.

-Andy 

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 17:13, Jan Willem Penterman wrote:
 I'm sorry to the spam the list like this, but now I've got the feeling
 I'm really getting somewhere:
 
 I've set up cocoon-2.0.3 binary release for j2sdk1.4 and added a pool
 for MySQL Connector/J .
 
 Now I've actually managed to get some row data from a MySQL database
 using SQLTransformer!
 
 But with ESQL it still fails in:
 
 org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Exception in
 ServerPagesGenerator.generate(): java.lang.RuntimeException: Error
 opening connection to dburl: : No suitable driver
 
 Now besides being curious about solving this error, I'd like to know why
 or why not I should stickt with SQLTransformer. In other words, why
 should I care about ESQL?
 
 JW
 
 P.s. I'm not going to post the pool setup, since SQLTransformer clearly
 got a connection from it so it works.
 
 query.xsp:
 --
 
 ?xml version=1.0?
 xsp:page
   language=java
   xmlns:xsp=http://apache.org/xsp;
   xmlns:esql=http://apache.org/cocoon/SQL/v2;
   root
   esql:connection
   esql:execute-query
   !-- connection information --
   esql:poolmysql/esql:pool
   
   !-- SQL query --
   esql:query
   select something from that 
   /esql:query
   !-- result processing elements --
   esql:results
   esql:row-results
   that
   
 esql:get-columns/
   /that
   /esql:row-results
   /esql:results
   esql:update-results/
   esql:no-results/
   esql:error-results/
   /esql:execute-query
   
   /esql:connection
   /root
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 ?xml version=1.0?
 
 !-- sitemap for mysqltest --
 
 map:sitemap xmlns:map=http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0;
 
   !-- === Components === --
   map:components
 map:generators default=file
 map:generator label=content,data
 logger=sitemap.generator.serverpages name=serverpages pool-grow=2
 pool-max=32 pool-min=4
 src=org.apache.cocoon.generation.ServerPagesGenerator/
   /map:generators
 map:transformers default=xslt/
 map:readers default=resource/
 map:serializers default=html/
 map:selectors default=browser/
 map:matchers default=wildcard
   map:matcher name=wildcard
 src=org.apache.cocoon.matching.WildcardURIMatcherFactory/
 /map:matchers
   /map:components
 
   !-- === Pipelines === --
   map:pipelines
 map:pipeline
map:match pattern=index.html
   map:read src=documents/static/index.html
 mime-type=text/html/
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map:match pattern=esqltest.xml
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Re: sexy open source

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver


 Hey, come on,  today is offtopic day! See all these messages fly? None 
 of them are Cocoon related ;-P

In that case in response to a previous posted, I'd like to offer this gem:

EJBs in factwellthey suck.

-Andy


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Re: sexy open source

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Why don't forget that you need Jakarta POI to output to Excel or the 
HSSF Serializer for Cocoon.  ;-)

-Andy

Vegan Portal wrote:

Hi Andreas,
 --- Andreas Hochsteger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 
  

* UML Modeling:
  ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/)
* Version Control System:
  CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/)
  Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!)
* IDE:
  Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/)
  Netbeans (http://www.netbeans.org/)
* Job Scheduling:
  Quartz (http://www.part.net/quartz.html)
* Workflow Management (continued):
  OSWorkflow
(http://www.opensymphony.com/osworkflow/)
* Search Engine:
  Apache Lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/)
* Regression Testing:
  JUnit (http://www.junit.org/)
  JXUnit (http://jxunit.sourceforge.net/)
  JMeter (http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter)
* Build Framework:
  Ant (http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/)
  Krysalis Centipede
(http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/)
* Project Site Management:
  Apache Forrest (http://xml.apache.org/forrest/)


Thank you for jumping in!
Almost all of your proposals I know already, some are
on my (getting long) task list to download and test
out. All are probably of great use to establish open
source based development company. I've kept them out
in my initial post, because it would be twice that
long mentioning them.
Some Remarks:
ArgoUML seems to be dead as open source, evolving to
free and/or commercial Poseidon edtions available at
www.gentleware.com. Nevertheless, it is probably the
most evolved (almost) freely available UML engine with
some very interesting features (critiques, for
example) not available elsewhere. Even in free
edition, it produces XMI, that could be further
processed with open source to generate DB, EJBs and
documentation. That's why I've mentioned it. Getting
little angry here, I just don't understand why open
www.omg.org specifications don't go also open or free
regarding their implementation in leading products
like Together, Rational or Embarcadero, just to get
more customers for consulting, the key concept behind
sale of open source. That's why I recommend free yer
lame Poseidon, because I think the UML-based
engineering is of great use in almost every serious
project.
Regarding Lucene, I'm definitely eager to use it as
advanced search engine in Cocoon, I hope it easy to be
integrated.
I had not to do any testing so far, but I'll
definitelly have to look at engines proposed from you
above, regarding how far are they able to benchmark
various possible Cocoon configurations and placement
inside oher frmeworks.

  

If I find some more projects in my huge unmanaged
link mail folder I'll let 
you know ;-)


Well, I thought I'm quite experienced with actual open
source roadmap, but I see there are many applications
I was not aware of, so keep on posting your proposals,
possibly with short comment on them.
Eager for your next responses,
Peter.

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Re: [Fwd: Encoding in HSSF (XLS) Serializer]

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

You know...  I don't think it does yet.  It would make sense to set the 
underlying encoding to unicode (16-bit) if
per chance the locale isn't set to us/uk/austrailia.  (we use the locale 
for numbers)

I'll fix this when I get a chance if someone else doesn't beat me to it. 
 (Its a very simple fix)

-Andy

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:



  Original Message 
 Subject: Encoding in HSSF (XLS) Serializer
 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:16:14 +0500
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Hi



 I try to use HSSF (XLS) Serializer for creating a spreadsheet in the 
 Excel.

 I have problem with cyrillic character, when I try show it I get other
 letters.

 Is there an encoding on HSSFSerializer?



 Any ideas, tips, or help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks very much!

 Hill

 (Cocoon-User)



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Re: Cinclude crashing catalina...?

2002-08-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Sorry. The pipeline you included didn't have it.

Alexander Smirnoff wrote:
 Of cause I included transformer! Even if I don't, - it should not crash the server...
 As I understand from mail archive it should work with cocoon:/ protocol. But
 it works fine with static xml files and *crash* catalina if I use cocoon:/ 
protocol...
 
 Alex.
 
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 You have to include the cinclude or xinclude transformer in your 
 pipeline.  Instructions for CInclude may be found
 here:
 
 http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=AddCIncludeToMinimalSitemap
 
 Alexander Smirnoff wrote:
 
 
FYI. The same thing happenning with xinclude...

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*Subject:* Cinclude crashing catalina...?

I do not know exactly what happening, it is first time I
experimenting with cinclude, but
it seems crashing Tomcat 4.0.1.
 
Cocoon 2.0.2 has declared in source xml:
 
cinclude:include src=cocoon:/message/
 
with correspondent pipeline:
 
map:match pattern=message
map:generate src=xsp/message.xsp type=serverpages/
map:serialize type=xml/
/map:match
 
Logs are clean in Catalina as well as in Cocoon...
 
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Re: How to Lock and specify the Width of Cells using POI..

2002-08-02 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

You cannot currently lock cells (assuming you mean ether protect via 
encryption or freeze in place).

Look at:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html

Specifically gmr:ColInfo as well as the webapp/cocoon/samples/poi 
examples (under Legacy Formats
from the menu).

-Andy

Kommineni, Sateesh (IndSys) wrote:

Hi,

I am using POI's HSSF implementation for generating Excel Sheets from my
Java Program.
How can we lock the Cells in a sheet and how to specify the Width of the
Cell..
Pls let me know how to achieve the above details...

Thanks a lot...

-Sateesh


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Re: Excel generator

2002-08-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Sven Kuenzler wrote:

 About the Source vs Generator issue: I found a post by Sylvain [1]. It 
 does not separate the Source and Generator concepts completely but the 
 bottom line seems to be
 - If you have a format with some natural xml respresentation, it's a 
 source (Like Excel-MS's Excel-XML?) 

Its not *that* natural.  There is an amount of parsing/etc that would 
have to happen.


 - If you have a binary format which needs to be parsed to XML, it's a 
 generator (Like XLS - Gnumeric?)

makes sense.



 Sven

 [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=102576977207135w=2

  Andrew C. Oliver schrieb:

 Explain, elaborate.

 2 Why would you want to do it at the transformation point?

 Sven Kuenzler wrote:

 Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an 
 ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source 
 instead? That way you could use it with SourceWritingTransformer and 
 friends, not only as pipeline starting point.

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Re: how to generate Excel

2002-08-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Have you looked at the examples?

Samples-Legacy Format

or under
webapp/cocoon/samples/poi/

or the docs -

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html

-Andy

Abhishek Goel wrote:

Hi,
I am having a xml file ,xslt for that xml.
Could any one suggest me how to define a pipeline for generating an excel sheet
from this xml.
Regards
Abhishek
  

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Re: Excel generator (Vadim Autoresponder please read)

2002-07-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver



Sven Kuenzler wrote:

 Good question. ATM, I only could give artificial scenarios.

 The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used the 
 Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet 
 which is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a response but a side 
 effect to the request. In C2 this is called a sink (or will be).

Okay I got that part...but it sounds kind of like an action to me.

 If I wanted to port that app to Cocoon, I thought of using a 
 Transformer. Then again, probalby I would not really need a 
 WriteableSource for that. IIRC, there is a Transformer which could  
 take a Serializer to produce the Excel output.

Okay so the issue is that you have *two* outputs of sort.  One is to 
email, one is to the browser.  The Excel is to email and probably HTML 
to the browser.

In my mind this doesn't justify *breaking* the logical model of the 
sitemap.  It seems you need an Action that makes a seperate internal 
request of sorts and emails the output.  So the action would make a 
request to a different pipeline and email that, where the user response 
would be in HTML.

Does that not sound reasonable?  Any thoughts from you Vadim?


 Sven






 Andrew C. Oliver schrieb:

 Explain, elaborate.

 2 Why would you want to do it at the transformation point?

 Sven Kuenzler wrote:

 Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an 
 ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source 
 instead? That way you could use it with SourceWritingTransformer and 
 friends, not only as pipeline starting point.

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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Explain, elaborate.

2 Why would you want to do it at the transformation point?

Sven Kuenzler wrote:

 Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an 
 ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source 
 instead? That way you could use it with SourceWritingTransformer and 
 friends, not only as pipeline starting point.

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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Ryan do note that the HSSFSerializer is already part of cocoon:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html

-Andy

Ryan Hoegg wrote:

 Hi,

 You might check out the POI project (hunt around for the HSSF stuff). 
 They claim to be working on Generators and Serializers for Cocoon for 
 all the formats.

 http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/index.html

 Ryan

 Michael Wechner wrote:

 Hi

 Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
 some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
 documents into some useful XML?

 Thanks  a lot

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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah in short:  Its a Cocoon Serializer.  While I appreciate this
feedback, I personally have no use cases for the Serializer outside of
Cocoon.


??? you don't ;-)
the use case is very simple: create a xls-file out of an gnumeric-file. ;-)
don't see any cocoon stuff here. i guess that would be like m$ saying
there is no use case for calculation outside excel.
but ok. i guess i know what you mean.
  

I mean currently, I don't personally have any uses for the serializer 
outside of Cocoon.  HA, I'll be writing that Excel calculation engine soon.

  

This makes it impossible for me to support a non-cocoon version
of the Serializer.  It would take a motivated individual who knew what
to do in order to support such a project.  My continued personal
interest is in generating reports via Cocoon and the HSSF Serializer.


i would like to do that, but since i realy dont have any clue about
the inner workings of cocoon this seems almost impossible for me at the
moment.
  

Look at the StateTax2 sample.  under Welome-Legacy Formats.

  

Cool!  Would you mind writing up a case study for POI?
 http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/casestudies.html


i'll see that i'll have time somewhere within the next
3-4 weeks (granted that the custumer oks this).
  

Cool!  Well tell them that I'll send them a T-Shirt (yourself as well) 
once we decide on a logo and I get the shirts printed.

  

I'll look through what Sven did.  My only concern is whether you'll end
up with Cocoon anyhow as your project scales up.


this might be the case indeed. but at the moment and for the foreseeable
future (3-6 month) this wont happen and so the discussion is a moot one.
  

humm..

Well one thing I don't recommend is generating the gnumeric format
directly once you know what you're
doing.  Meaning come up with an interim format.


this isn't possible either cause the invoice-format is still very
young and there are a lot of changes going on for the next several
months. it is impractical to let those changes be made by programmers.
the people from the billing-dept. should do them but i simply cannot
force them to programm a bill in some xml-format. the maximum
i can give them is linux-box with gnumeric installed on it (and even
this is not so simple since this is a windowsshop).
  

Wha?  Its not stored in the database?  You see with XSP/ESQL, you could 
query it from the database, output XML, transform it via your 
stylesheets and serialize it via HSSF Serializer.  

How are you currently getting them out in XML?

on the otherhand transforming a given gnumeric-file into an stylesheet
is realy no fun and very brittle to do.
  

Look at the HSSF Serializer doc that explains what it actually cares about.

  

makes it into a Gnumeric workbook.



but what i want to do later to is to create a pdf-file instead of an
  

excel-
  

file. i'll be using xsl-fo for that and i see some hard times coming to
first create an xsl-fo file out of gnumeric.


  

I don't think it has to be if you do as above.


as said before the only practical solution is to get an allready formated
gnumeric-file from the billing-dept.
  

humm...

  

You prefer this to the Excel xml format?


havent had a look on xls-xml.

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Re: [Morphos] Starting the code :-) (was Re: Excel generator)

2002-07-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver


 I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis 
 in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell 
 I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the 
 volume is soo great that it would triple my current email volume 
 and probably bring my ISPs flaky email server down anyhow!
 Others probably feel similar.


 Andy, the discussion has been going on already on that list, so I 
 would really like to continue there.
 I promise that I will make the mails prepended with [Morphos], so you 
 can filter them. 


Dude, you don't understand.  I'm only getting like 50% of my emails, in 
part due to the amount of traffic I get.  I physically cannot subscribe 
to commons.  If I do that I'd pretty much never get any mail from 
anywhere else. The traffic on Commons is REDICULOUS.  There's no way we 
can split it?  I mean I just can't.

I tried to help my LUG get a SMTP server set up but they're all a bunch 
of Sysadmin types who are trying to set up a REALLY COOL SMTP server 
(still trying after 6 months) rather than a functional one in the near 
future!

I intend to set up my own SMTP server on my server, but it won't be in 
the near future.

Regardless, I know a couple other people (of your acquantenance) who 
might help out if the list were seperate.

Hell we created a list for cocoon-doc


  From there we can plan an approach for the generator. 


 This was exactly the proposed plan.

yes.


 It would probably be faster too, my patches get applied too slow to 
 work on it very efficiently here. (no offense)


 Yup, it's time :-)

 Who managed to make the serializer work out of Cocoon, can you please 
 send me the zip?
 I can thus checkin preliminary stuff in CVS.

 Thanks :-)





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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Manos Batsis wrote:

  

From: Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 



  

Therefore I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his 
Excel and I 
generate an XML,
which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel, 
such that 
he can work on it.



Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice idea is utilizing
the office 2002 XML formats, specifically the one of Excel.

Just my 0.02 or less.

Manos
  


Explain the advantage?  This is what I brought up, so far its unanimous 
the other direction.  Why would you prefer this over an XSLT page that 
accomplishes the same thing?

-Andy

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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Manos Batsis wrote:

From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 



  

Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice idea is utilizing
the office 2002 XML formats, specifically the one of Excel.
  

Explain the advantage?  This is what I brought up, so far its 
unanimous 
the other direction.  Why would you prefer this over an XSLT 
page that 
accomplishes the same thing?



I'm not sure we understand each other here.
What I had in mind is removing the work needed to produce XML from Excel
files and just use the XML output abilities of the application.
One can use that XML directly with the Excel application or use XSLT to
produce a web-based interface. 
  

Okay.  So do that.  That doesn't have much to do with the HSSF 
Serializer/Generator does it?

Not sure what the argument here is.

Manos


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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:


 Geoff Howard wrote:

 I didn't think there was, but the POI site 
 (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
 claims that there is, so you may want to check more carefully in 
 scratchpad.
 I assume you know about  the transformers and serializers for Excel 
 format
 using the POI/HSSF work from Apache Jakarta.  Using their work, it 
 should be
 fairly easy to create a generator if one doesn't already exist in
 scratchpad.


 It's already in the core, and is also already in 2.0.3, with examples.

Wait I'm confused. Here I was posting a long old response about why I 
haven't done a
generator, and he meant serializer.doh.



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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

But the more important part of my answer was What do you want on your 
generator, and
what do you wish you had on your serializer  --  would you like fries 
too?  Meaning I need ideas!  
I'm on the fence,  I want some input.

-Andy

Sven Kuenzler wrote:

 Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel (xls) file
 some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
 documents into some useful XML?


 I think the previous responses missed the *from* (my emphasis) :-)
 So, read Andy's answer on the dev list. In short: No, there is no 
 HSSFGenerator (yet).

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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Geoff Howard wrote:

Well, I'll make a stab at what I would think could be useful for a generator
from an excel file.  I can think of two logical directions people would want
to go.

1) If you are serializing to some display format (html, pdf, etc) you'd want
to reproduce the data and formatting as it would appear viewed in, or
printed from excel.

You can of course do an approximation of this in any format via a 
stylesheet.  Granted it won't look *eactly* the same due to differences 
(HTML borders are vastly different from Excel's).  

2) If you are using excel as a make-shift database, you would want to
preserve the data structure so that it can be transformed and acted on or
displayed.
  

Yes.

I would assume that both of these uses could be accomplished by just
outputting the format that would have created the same style sheet to begin
with, except possibly for the option to output formula results instead of
the formulas.  Most users would assume the formats and behaviour to be close
to symetric - if start with an .xls file, run it through the generator and
serializer, I ought to wind up pretty close to where I started if not
exactly where I started.
  

great.

Does that work for a discussion starter?
  

Yes so the question I guess is assuming you can transform it via XSLT to 
whatever you like given the effort.  What format (XML tag format) makes 
most since?  Preserving the gnumeric compatibility?  A custom format 
that makes more sense?  Striving for Excel 2000 XML format compatibility?  

Currently the serializer shares the gnumeric tag language.

-Andy

Geoff

  

-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Excel generator


But the more important part of my answer was What do you 
want on your 
generator, and
what do you wish you had on your serializer  --  would you like fries 
too?  Meaning I need ideas!  
I'm on the fence,  I want some input.

-Andy

Sven Kuenzler wrote:



Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel 


(xls) file


some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML?


I think the previous responses missed the *from* (my emphasis) :-)
So, read Andy's answer on the dev list. In short: No, there is no 
HSSFGenerator (yet).

Sven





  

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Re: Excel generator

2002-07-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver



Yes, and it may be good to provide a standard out of the box stylesheet
that does this.
  

Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind 
of a chicken and the egg scenario.  The serializer is there, the samples 
are there but we can't more because we don't have any usage scenarios 
except for mine (translation: lots of people are using POI but few 
people are using the serializer).  But that may in itself be the reaons 
that we don't.

Are you using the serializer?  For what?  how?  

...and then bug reports and requests could drive the development a bit more.

  

Yes so the question I guess is assuming you can transform it 
via XSLT to 
whatever you like given the effort.  What format (XML tag 
format) makes 
most since?  Preserving the gnumeric compatibility?  A custom format 
that makes more sense?  Striving for Excel 2000 XML format 
compatibility?  

Currently the serializer shares the gnumeric tag language.



I haven't been able to find the current gnumeric tag language documented
either at gnome.org, or at the poi site at jakarta.  If the new native Excel

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/serializers/xls-serializer.html
http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gnumeric/gnumeric.xsd
http://www.object-refinery.com/jworkbook/index.html
ftp://213.253.31.132/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf  (Just reappeared after 
being gone for awhile, I'll put this in the docs soon)

format is great, that'd be worth considering, but I don't see much of a

Well it actually kinda sucks and is probably hard to hand generate.  It 
probably actually sucks more than
the Gnumeric format, but it more cleanly maps to the file format.

reason that it would matter what the intermediate format is - you either
want to go from an excel spreadsheet or to an excel spreadsheet (or both),
but what it is in the middle doesn't matter much (except for those writing
any transformation process in the middle).  The only vote for the new native
excel xml would be that the total universe of people who will be familiar
with it will likely vastly out number those familiar with gnumeric.
  

Great feedback.  I appreciate it!

Thanks,

-Andy


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Re: building 2.0.3

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Mike,

So since Cocoon is a servlet this means you need servlet.jar in order to 
build Cocoon.

-Andy

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

Hi Mike,

you did nothing wrong, except that you found a bug ;)
No, seriously, thanks for finding this problem,
I will fix it for the next release.

Thanks
Carsten

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-Original Message-
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To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: building 2.0.3


If I remove all of the optional jars and try to build I get errors about not
finding the servlet stuff, in the optional directory is the servlet jar.  So
my question is should the servlet jar be in the core directory or am I doing
something wrong?


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Re: Debugging buggy XSL code

2002-07-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi Lajos,

Generally you can have these errors spit out on a nice error page, but 
you probably also see errors regarding not being able to find some error 
stylesheet thing.  I believe its called error2html.xsl or maybe 
error2document.xsl.  You'll notice cocoon is looking for this somewhere 
other than where it actually is located.  If you copy this to where it 
is looking for it then you'll get a pretty helpful error page.  I'm not 
sure if this is a bug or what, but its certainly annoying.

thanks,

-Andy

Lajos Moczar wrote:

 Hi all -

 At various times (or versions), I though I have seen Cocoon spit out 
 messages about XSL errors, like The element type xsl:if must be 
 terminated by a matching end-tag. In 2.0.2, these messages come at 
 the Tomcat console window or logs. Wouldn't it be helpful to capture 
 these messages and add them to Cocoon error page? It would certainly 
 help me - the Transform error: null pointer exception doesn't mean 
 very much.

 If someone has an idea of where the change needs to be made, unless it 
 has already been done, I'll gladly look into doing it.

 Regards,

 Lajos





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Re: HSSFSerializer

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Yes...note HSSF logging decreases performance by at least 100x

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hallo sven,

i tried it. works very well. thanks.
just one more question: how can i deactivate
the log-msgs?

ciao robertj

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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: HSSFSerializer


  

Sven Kuenzler schrieb:




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

i want to use the HSSFSerializer which if i have understood
correctly serializes an gnumeric (xml) - document into
a excel-file.

the problem is that i solely want to use this class without
all the other cocoon-stuff. is that possible?


I have done this. If you can wait until tuesday, I could post a code
snippet. Otherwise, search the dev-list for the away mission thread
  

;-)
  

I have uploaded

http://www.tzi.de/~svenk/poimorpher.zip

The project structure was ripped of an old project of mine, so it may
need some adjustments.

Normally, build test should generate a poimorpher.jar and  two test
Excel files in a work directory. If so, have a look at
morphos.poi.test.HSSF to learn how this can be deployed in your app.

This package was done to prepare migration of the Gnumeric2Excel stuff
into a Jakarta commons project. As it stands, I only stripped off the
Cocoon interfaces and removed some of the Avalon contracts (which mostly
weren't executed anyway).

Let me know if this works for you.

Sven




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Re: Java packages

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

cocoon/WEB-INF/classes or cocoon/WEB-INF/libs  (for jar files)

-Andy

Robert Bourdeau wrote:

I think there was a thread on this, BUT it appears that the
cocoon-users archive is not indexed, there is no web archive, and 
I can't keep all the Cocoon-user messages. So, apologies in advance
if this question was recently asked. (I did check the FAQ, nothing there).

Ok, I want to utilize application specific java classes in my XSPs
that, using JSP, I would normally location within the appdir/WEB-INF 
directory. I'm quite familiar with the Tomcat 4 class loaders, but Cocoon is
its own Tomcat servlet, so it would seem that I'm forced to utilize
a WEB-INF directory within the cocoon dir? 

Suggestions or pointers?
Using:
   Cocoon 2.0.1-dev
   Tomcat 4.0.1, Apache 1.3.24 with WARP
   JDK 1.3.1
   Solaris 2.7 on a Sparc platform


Thanks

--- Bob


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Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I still don't think I'm explaining this correctly..   I want to get the 
value of an HTTPRequest parameter that called the XMLForm
but was *not* part of the XMLForm into the XMLForm or into the bean.

http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer.html?itemNo=3

So when I call that, I want the (not hidden now, but hopefully will be again) itemNo 
to be populated
with the 3.  From the form, how do I get itemNo into the model or the form, without 
making the calling
screen part of the XMLForm?

-Andy




Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

I assume your cinclude transformer substitures the actual value.

This is what you could do:

xf:hidden ref=myprop
  xf:valueci:include link=.../xf:value
/xf:hidden

Now after cinclude substitues the value, the XMLFormTransformer will not
(should not) use the value of the bean property, but the explicitly
specified value in the markup instead.

How is that?


  

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:



Seems like you extended the framework to support xmlform-model ;)
This has been discussed before, maybe we should check it in.

  

I didn't do it... It must already be there...?



Of course this is a little delicate, because the model can be a DOM node.

As to your question, why don't you use xf:hidden? See the most recent
XMLForm demo.


  

Right, but how do I get the value into the hidden from OUTSIDE the
xmlform pipeline?  meaning how do I pass a parameter into the
xmlfrom-based pipeline and get it INTO the xmlfrom.  I made it textbox
so I could see it was always 0 instead of 3.

-Andy



Ivelin

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else




  

Sure.

here is the offer action (which loads the form)

map:match pattern=action/postoffer.html
map:act type=OfferAction
  map:parameter name=xmlform-id value=offer-form/
  map:parameter name=xmlform-scope value=session/
  map:parameter name=xmlform-model value=OfferBean/
  map:generate src=content/form/{page}.xml/

  map:transform type=cinclude/
  map:transform type=xmlform label=xml/
  map:transform src=stylesheets/form2html.xsl/
  map:transform




src=context://stylesheets/xmlform/xmlform2html.xsl/


  

  map:serialize type=html/
/map:act
/map:match

here is the url which calls it






http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffe


r
  

.html?itemNo=3


  

Where the screen calling the form is not itself an XML form.  However it
needs to pass a parameter to be stored
in a hidden field (or otherwise poke it into the OfferBean attached to
the form).

You can actually go here:





http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiqu


e
  

s/3.html?category=Antiques


  

and see what I mean (click on Make An Offer)

-Andy


Ivelin Ivanov wrote:





Myabe I misunderstand the problem.

Can you send your sitemap and some more details.




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else






  

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:







The name of the parameter has to represent the XPath to the bean




  

property.




  

See the html source of an xmlform page to see how element names are
translated into widgets @name attributes.

Does this help?






  

I don't think so.  I need to pass the data into the pipeline from
outside.  If I just pass the same parameter as a propery it
is not picking it up.  Or at least its not ending up in the form.

-Andy







Ivelin


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Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:50 AM
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Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

on









http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Anti


q
  

  

u


  



e




  

s/3.html






  

I want to be able to have the user click
make an offer









http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postof


f
  

  

e


  



r




  

.html?itemNo=3






  

which will pass to an XMLForm based action.

The problem is I need itemNo to end up in my OfferBean.java along


with
  

the user populated fields in the form.  How do I take
an http parameter and get it into the bean attached to an XMLForm?

Thanks,

Andy

Re: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the info you cantakein one night about POI and the C

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Derek Hohls wrote:

Any chance that *all* the links off of:

http://www.trilug.org/~acoliver/poiPres18.html

could be updated to point to a 'non localhost' machine
(eg cvs.apache.org)

Thanks!
  

The 8080 links point to a local installation of Cocoon.  Is there a 
remote installation of Cocoon that I should point them to?  

I'd point them at my server but the POI samples aren't working at the 
moment,  I'm waiting for my patches to upgrade to the
latest POI and for the problems in the head to be fixed before upgrading 
my server.

Sorry,

-Andy

PS. Just install Tomcat and Cocoon and the links will work :-)

  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/07/2002 04:37:25 


http://www.trijug.org/ -

Monday night, if you're not doing too much and you live on the US East

coast, why not come on down (or up to North Carolina),
we'll have lots of nutritious Hawaiian poi!  We'll have pizza, pop as 
well for those of you who are not into eating mushed tarro root.

We'll go over the POI project, how to use it, what it is, etc.  We'll 
tackle some basics of Cocoon (as applies to using the HSSF Serializer 
and reporting), and I'll answer lots of questions.

We should have some great information sources on hand.  You'll have me

(your humble poi-servant), Marc Johnson (who won't come on stage but
you 
might be able to corner him before or afterwards) and author of an 
upcoming book, Conrad D'Cruz, who can talk to you in more detail about

Cocoon, life, the universe and everything.

Hope to see anyone who can make it!

-Andy





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Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver



can I do ?/itemno=x  

okay, I'll try it.


Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

The name of the itemNo attribute has to have a / prefix: /itemNo.

I will make a change in the Form impl to tolerate parameters without leading
/.


Send me the code of your action if this doesn't work.



Ivelin



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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else


  

I still don't think I'm explaining this correctly..   I want to get the
value of an HTTPRequest parameter that called the XMLForm
but was *not* part of the XMLForm into the XMLForm or into the bean.




http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer
.html?itemNo=3
  

So when I call that, I want the (not hidden now, but hopefully will be


again) itemNo to be populated
  

with the 3.  From the form, how do I get itemNo into the model or the


form, without making the calling
  

screen part of the XMLForm?

-Andy




Ivelin Ivanov wrote:



I assume your cinclude transformer substitures the actual value.

This is what you could do:

xf:hidden ref=myprop
 xf:valueci:include link=.../xf:value
/xf:hidden

Now after cinclude substitues the value, the XMLFormTransformer will not
(should not) use the value of the bean property, but the explicitly
specified value in the markup instead.

How is that?




  

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:





Seems like you extended the framework to support xmlform-model ;)
This has been discussed before, maybe we should check it in.



  

I didn't do it... It must already be there...?





Of course this is a little delicate, because the model can be a DOM
  

node.
  

As to your question, why don't you use xf:hidden? See the most recent
XMLForm demo.




  

Right, but how do I get the value into the hidden from OUTSIDE the
xmlform pipeline?  meaning how do I pass a parameter into the
xmlfrom-based pipeline and get it INTO the xmlfrom.  I made it textbox
so I could see it was always 0 instead of 3.

-Andy





Ivelin

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else






  

Sure.

here is the offer action (which loads the form)

map:match pattern=action/postoffer.html
   map:act type=OfferAction
 map:parameter name=xmlform-id value=offer-form/
 map:parameter name=xmlform-scope value=session/
 map:parameter name=xmlform-model value=OfferBean/
 map:generate src=content/form/{page}.xml/

 map:transform type=cinclude/
 map:transform type=xmlform label=xml/
 map:transform src=stylesheets/form2html.xsl/
 map:transform






src=context://stylesheets/xmlform/xmlform2html.xsl/




  

 map:serialize type=html/
   /map:act
/map:match

here is the url which calls it








http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoff
  

e
  



r


  

.html?itemNo=3




  

Where the screen calling the form is not itself an XML form.  However


it
  

needs to pass a parameter to be stored
in a hidden field (or otherwise poke it into the OfferBean attached to
the form).

You can actually go here:







http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiq
  

u
  



e


  

s/3.html?category=Antiques




  

and see what I mean (click on Make An Offer)

-Andy


Ivelin Ivanov wrote:







Myabe I misunderstand the problem.

Can you send your sitemap and some more details.




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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else








  

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:









The name of the parameter has to represent the XPath to the bean






  

property.






  

See the html source of an xmlform page to see how element names are
translated into widgets @name attributes.

Does this help?








  

I don't think so.  I need to pass the data into the pipeline from
outside.  If I just pass the same parameter as a propery it
is not picking it up.  Or at least its not ending up in the form.

-Andy









Ivelin


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Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

Q: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically 
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

on 
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiques/3.html 
I want to be able to have the user click
make an offer
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer.html?itemNo=3
which will pass to an XMLForm based action.

The problem is I need itemNo to end up in my OfferBean.java along with 
the user populated fields in the form.  How do I take
an http parameter and get it into the bean attached to an XMLForm?

Thanks,

Andy




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---BeginMessage---

Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically 
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

on 
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiques/3.html 
I want to be able to have the user click
make an offer
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer.html?itemNo=3
which will pass to an XMLForm based action.

The problem is I need itemNo to end up in my OfferBean.java along with 
the user populated fields in the form.  How do I take
an http parameter and get it into the bean attached to an XMLForm?

Thanks,

Andy





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Re: Looking for help in the upcomming release

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Giacomo Pati wrote:

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

  

Just an update to the procedure:

If you use the latest CVS step 3 - setting the targetted jvm -
is done now automatically by the build system. It detects the
compiler version you use and chooses by itself the correct target.

So, everything is getting easier.



Nice work, Carsten.
  

+1

Giacomo


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Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

The name of the parameter has to represent the XPath to the bean property.
See the html source of an xmlform page to see how element names are
translated into widgets @name attributes.

Does this help?
  

I don't think so.  I need to pass the data into the pipeline from 
outside.  If I just pass the same parameter as a propery it
is not picking it up.  Or at least its not ending up in the form.

-Andy

Ivelin


- Original Message -
From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: Q: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else


  

Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

on



http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antique
s/3.html
  

I want to be able to have the user click
make an offer



http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer
.html?itemNo=3
  

which will pass to an XMLForm based action.

The problem is I need itemNo to end up in my OfferBean.java along with
the user populated fields in the form.  How do I take
an http parameter and get it into the bean attached to an XMLForm?

Thanks,

Andy




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Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Sure.  

here is the offer action (which loads the form)

map:match pattern=action/postoffer.html
 map:act type=OfferAction
   map:parameter name=xmlform-id value=offer-form/
   map:parameter name=xmlform-scope value=session/
   map:parameter name=xmlform-model value=OfferBean/
   map:generate src=content/form/{page}.xml/

   map:transform type=cinclude/
   map:transform type=xmlform label=xml/
   map:transform src=stylesheets/form2html.xsl/
   map:transform src=context://stylesheets/xmlform/xmlform2html.xsl/
   map:serialize type=html/
 /map:act
/map:match

here is the url which calls it

http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer.html?itemNo=3

Where the screen calling the form is not itself an XML form.  However it 
needs to pass a parameter to be stored
in a hidden field (or otherwise poke it into the OfferBean attached to 
the form).  

You can actually go here: 
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiques/3.html?category=Antiques

and see what I mean (click on Make An Offer)

-Andy


Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

Myabe I misunderstand the problem.

Can you send your sitemap and some more details.




- Original Message -
From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else


  

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:



The name of the parameter has to represent the XPath to the bean
  

property.
  

See the html source of an xmlform page to see how element names are
translated into widgets @name attributes.

Does this help?


  

I don't think so.  I need to pass the data into the pipeline from
outside.  If I just pass the same parameter as a propery it
is not picking it up.  Or at least its not ending up in the form.

-Andy



Ivelin


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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: Q: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else




  

Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

on





http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiqu


e
  

s/3.html


  

I want to be able to have the user click
make an offer





http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffe


r
  

.html?itemNo=3


  

which will pass to an XMLForm based action.

The problem is I need itemNo to end up in my OfferBean.java along with
the user populated fields in the form.  How do I take
an http parameter and get it into the bean attached to an XMLForm?

Thanks,

Andy




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Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

Seems like you extended the framework to support xmlform-model ;)
This has been discussed before, maybe we should check it in.

I didn't do it... It must already be there...?

Of course this is a little delicate, because the model can be a DOM node.

As to your question, why don't you use xf:hidden? See the most recent
XMLForm demo.
  

Right, but how do I get the value into the hidden from OUTSIDE the 
xmlform pipeline?  meaning how do I pass a parameter into the 
xmlfrom-based pipeline and get it INTO the xmlfrom.  I made it textbox 
so I could see it was always 0 instead of 3.

-Andy

Ivelin

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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else


  

Sure.

here is the offer action (which loads the form)

map:match pattern=action/postoffer.html
 map:act type=OfferAction
   map:parameter name=xmlform-id value=offer-form/
   map:parameter name=xmlform-scope value=session/
   map:parameter name=xmlform-model value=OfferBean/
   map:generate src=content/form/{page}.xml/

   map:transform type=cinclude/
   map:transform type=xmlform label=xml/
   map:transform src=stylesheets/form2html.xsl/
   map:transform


src=context://stylesheets/xmlform/xmlform2html.xsl/
  

   map:serialize type=html/
 /map:act
/map:match

here is the url which calls it




http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoffer
.html?itemNo=3
  

Where the screen calling the form is not itself an XML form.  However it
needs to pass a parameter to be stored
in a hidden field (or otherwise poke it into the OfferBean attached to
the form).

You can actually go here:



http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antique
s/3.html?category=Antiques
  

and see what I mean (click on Make An Offer)

-Andy


Ivelin Ivanov wrote:



Myabe I misunderstand the problem.

Can you send your sitemap and some more details.




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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else




  

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:





The name of the parameter has to represent the XPath to the bean


  

property.


  

See the html source of an xmlform page to see how element names are
translated into widgets @name attributes.

Does this help?




  

I don't think so.  I need to pass the data into the pipeline from
outside.  If I just pass the same parameter as a propery it
is not picking it up.  Or at least its not ending up in the form.

-Andy





Ivelin


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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: Q: passing a value into an XML form from somewhere else






  

Hi All,

I've got a situation where I have multiple items on a dynamically
generated page and I want to be able to allow the user to
click on a link and post an offer on them.  So for instance

on







http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/category/Antiq
  

u
  



e


  

s/3.html




  

I want to be able to have the user click
make an offer







http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postoff
  

e
  



r


  

.html?itemNo=3




  

which will pass to an XMLForm based action.

The problem is I need itemNo to end up in my OfferBean.java along with
the user populated fields in the form.  How do I take
an http parameter and get it into the bean attached to an XMLForm?

Thanks,

Andy




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Re: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the info you can take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Well if all you east coasters want to do something up here, I could 
possibly see if the Trijug could sponsor (by way of having access to a 
decent size auditorium) a Cocoonapalooza.  While this may seem somewhat 
self-serving (since I'd go no where ;-) ).  The advantage of NC is that 
its nearly equidistant between north and south (so the guy from Florida 
and the guy from NY both have the same distance to travel)..

http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=5426+Lake+Vista+Drcity=Durhamstate=NCcsz=Durham,+NC+27712-1925slt=36.084674sln=-78.955355name=zip=27712-1925country=usBFKey=BFCat=BFClient=mag=5desc=cs=9newmag=2poititle=poi=ds=n

Other notable figures in the NC area are POI committer and original 
archtiect of the HSSF Serializer, Marc Johnson.  Ken Coar of ASF and 
HTTPD fame, Sam Ruby of Jakarta, and some others who have slipped my 
mind at the moment.

-Andy


 



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Re: html entities and xsl

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

This sounds pretty specialized in one way and generic in another.  The 
problem being is that the insertion point is
content specific.  Meaning you'll need to at least insert some kind of 
tag into the file.

 From my limited understanding this is something that Velocity is pretty 
good at (provided you insert some kind of velocity tag).
 From my understanding Cocoon has a velocity generator that is nearly 
completely undocumented (but provided you could grok
velocity (http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/), I'm betting you could 
figure out the generator 
(http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/generators/velocity-generator.html).

A few alternatives come to mind off hand:
1. Write generators/transformers for cocoon that are content/style 
specific (which I bet you'll still have to put tags in the HTML)
2. Find a way to use the Velocity generator and add the tags
3. Work with your content-management group (assumption) who maintains 
the HTML, come up with something that is XHTML based and perhaps 
transitional.  They'll gain some new skills that they may value, and 
you'll get something cleaner.  You could probably
create a few not wonderful (from an achedemic standpoint) xml 
stylesheets that left you with seperation between your data and the 
(barely xsl) xhtml page without requiring them to become xsl geniuses 
overnight.  Basically have a big block of html with some xsl copy 
statements in it at the appropriate places.  Later you can move to 
greater seperation of data and style as the group picks up your
xml/xsl skills.

Or thats my thinking.  Someone please step in and correct me if I'm off 
base.

thankse,

-Andy

Albert Cervera Areny wrote:

Hi,
  I suppose this is a usual question but i've not been able to find its
  answer so far... how can I use html entities inside an xsl?... In fact I
  have an html file (not created by me) in which I have to insert dynamic
  information which cocoon will generate. The thing is thus that I'd like
  to leave the html (not xhtml thow i've converted into it) file untouched
  and insert data inside...  Any easy solutions? or at least... dose somebody know 
how to resolve the
  entities problem?
  Thanks in advance!



  





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ftp://213.253.31.132/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf - gnumeric file formatdoc relocated

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi all,

The new url for the gnumeric-xml.pdf doc from object-refinery.com is at 
ftp://213.253.31.132/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf.

Thanks,

Andy


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Re: Stream generator XMLForms

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

my appolgoies, I misunderstood the question.

Leszek Gawron wrote:

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 09:32:12AM -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
  

enlightenment on this question is found here: 
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/howto/xmlform-wizard/howto-xmlform-wizard.html


I do not think that is the solution for my problem. From what I have read(
maybe I'm wrong ) XMLForms are good for collecting data on server side for
example in DOM Node. What I would like to do is to send xml data to server
(prepared by client), do some businness processing and send response to
client.
In my case the client is a simple C++ application using MSXML
   ouzo

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Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the info you can takein one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

http://www.trijug.org/ -

Monday night, if you're not doing too much and you live on the US East 
coast, why not come on down (or up to North Carolina),
we'll have lots of nutritious Hawaiian poi!  We'll have pizza, pop as 
well for those of you who are not into eating mushed tarro root.

We'll go over the POI project, how to use it, what it is, etc.  We'll 
tackle some basics of Cocoon (as applies to using the HSSF Serializer 
and reporting), and I'll answer lots of questions.

We should have some great information sources on hand.  You'll have me 
(your humble poi-servant), Marc Johnson (who won't come on stage but you 
might be able to corner him before or afterwards) and author of an 
upcoming book, Conrad D'Cruz, who can talk to you in more detail about 
Cocoon, life, the universe and everything.

Hope to see anyone who can make it!

-Andy





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Re: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the info you can take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Sorry about that.  Maybe you can come when Conrad D'Cruz and I do our 
Cocoon talk in October.

I posted something about the talk earlier on the poi list but it didn't 
occur to me to post it to Cocoon until
I gave the talk to my wife tonight and realized it was just about as 
much about Cocoon as POI.

I plan to give the talk again, somewhere, sometime.  Got shot down for 
the ApacheCon version, but maybe
I'll use it as an excuse to get a free trip to some other JUG sometime.

-Andy

Argyn Kuketayev wrote:

I wonder how many ppl do Cocoon on East Coast? If more than 3 then it's
enough to have a sort of workshop on Outer Banks some time :)

I'd love to come, but it's no way to arrange a trip from DC on that short
notice

  

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: Monday Night: Free POI, lots of Pizza, And all the 
info you can
take in one night about POI and the Cocoon HSSF Serializer!


http://www.trijug.org/ -

Monday night, if you're not doing too much and you live on 
the US East 
coast, why not come on down (or up to North Carolina),
we'll have lots of nutritious Hawaiian poi!  We'll have pizza, pop as 
well for those of you who are not into eating mushed tarro root.

We'll go over the POI project, how to use it, what it is, etc.  We'll 
tackle some basics of Cocoon (as applies to using the HSSF Serializer 
and reporting), and I'll answer lots of questions.

We should have some great information sources on hand.  
You'll have me 
(your humble poi-servant), Marc Johnson (who won't come on 
stage but you 
might be able to corner him before or afterwards) and author of an 
upcoming book, Conrad D'Cruz, who can talk to you in more 
detail about 
Cocoon, life, the universe and everything.

Hope to see anyone who can make it!

-Andy





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Sitemap configuration parameters

2002-07-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi all,

Sorry if this question appears twice.  I tried to post it last night, 
but I've not gotten my email so I assume no on
else did either.

I've got a number of pages that render relative links, but my 
application's root is subject to change.  I could set the
link base in every document but that would be a bit painful (to say the 
least).  

Is there a way to set a parameter in the sitemap that can be accessed in 
all pipelines?  Or maybe some other way to
achieve the same thing?

for example:

   map:match pattern=category/*/*.html
map:aggregate element=page
 map:part src=cocoon:/itemlist/{1}.html?listid={2}/
 map:part 
src=cocoon:/catnav.xml?base=/cocoon/samples/bringmethis?parent=0/
 map:part src=cocoon:/static/logo.xml/
 map:part src=cocoon:/ads.xml?pageid=FRONTPAGE/
 map:part src=cocoon:/sitenav.xml?base=/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/
 map:part src=cocoon:/search.html/
 map:part src=cocoon:/jumpmenu.html/
/map:aggregate
!--map:transform src=stylesheets/sidebar.xsl/ --
map:transform src=stylesheets/document2html.xsl/
map:serialize type=html/
   /map:match


would it be possible for

 map:part src=cocoon:/sitenav.xml?base=/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/

to instead set that to some kind of sitemap-wide parameter?  

-Andy


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Re: Tomcat version

2002-07-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

oooh, can I have my beer in a clean glass as well? ;-)

David Vos wrote:

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
  

JDK1.3.1 + Tomcat 4.0.4 + Cocoon 2.0.3-jvm13 release
JDK1.4 + Tomcat 4.0.4LE + Cocoon 2.0.3-jvm14 release

Cocoon 2.0.3 releases are due in several days from now.



Is there going to be a clean build available?

David



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Please help, Broken Link on object-refinery WAS [Fwd: HSSF-GnumericXML file format - Unreachable URL, did anyone downl oad previously?]

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Dear Mr. Gilbert,

I'm a developer whom works on apache cocoon and apache POI.  We 
referenced a piece of documentation hosted on www.jrefinery.com 
ftp://www.jrefinery.com/pub/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf.  It is also 
still linked from this page:  
http://www.object-refinery.com/jworkbook/index.html.  Recently, 
jrefinery has of course become object-refinery.  However the link has 
not changed.  Do you know where this document currently lives and where 
we may retrieve a copy?  Would you be objectionable to us mirroring this 
document?

Thanks,

Andrew C. Oliver

---BeginMessage---

Hi all,

I found an old posting with pointers to documentation about the Gnumeric XML
file format, which is the one used by the HSSF serializer.

One link concerned a PDF file contained detailed notes on the XML file
format used by Gnumeric, at the following URL:
ftp://www.jrefinery.com/pub/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf

The URL is now completely unreachable. Did anyone successfully download that
file before it became unreachable? If so, could he/she either send it to me
or make it available to all in some other way?

Thanks in advance to all,


L.

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Re: R: HSSF-Gnumeric XML file format - Unreachable URL, did anyonedo wnload previously?

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

cool.  Can I get a copy?  I'll read through it and mirror it on my server.

Lorenzo De Sio wrote:

Thanks to Denis Thierry and Jens Lorenz for sending me the file!

L.
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Oggetto: Fw: HSSF-Gnumeric XML file format - Unreachable URL, did anyone
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Hi Lorenzo,

Here is the file ...

I cannot post it to the mailing list as the server does not accept large
emails ...

Regards,

Denis

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: HSSF-Gnumeric XML file format - Unreachable URL, did anyone
download previously?


  

Hi all,

I found an old posting with pointers to documentation about the Gnumeric


XML
  

file format, which is the one used by the HSSF serializer.

One link concerned a PDF file contained detailed notes on the XML file
format used by Gnumeric, at the following URL:
ftp://www.jrefinery.com/pub/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf

The URL is now completely unreachable. Did anyone successfully download


that
  

file before it became unreachable? If so, could he/she either send it to


me
  

or make it available to all in some other way?

Thanks in advance to all,


L.

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(now found at: http://www.superlinksoftware.com/gnumeric-xml.pdf)Re: Fw: HSSF-Gnumeric XML file format - Unreachable URL, did anyone downloadpreviously?

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi All,

Thanks to denis, we've recovered the document in question.  I've emailed 
David Gilbert, the author, and hopefully
he'll fix the link.  Until such time, you can find it at: 
http://www.superlinksoftware.com/gnumeric-xml.pdf.  

The doc is GPL so I suppose its safe for me to host on my server (of 
course I'm hosting it via tomcat...does that make tomcat
tainted ? ;-)  J/K -- tomcat's already tainted because I run linux on 
my webserver ;-) )

-Andy

Denis wrote:

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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 11:50 AM
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Hi Lorenzo,

Here is the file ...

I cannot post it to the mailing list as the server does not accept large
emails ...

Regards,

Denis

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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:17 AM
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download previously?




Hi all,

I found an old posting with pointers to documentation about the Gnumeric
  

XML


file format, which is the one used by the HSSF serializer.

One link concerned a PDF file contained detailed notes on the XML file
format used by Gnumeric, at the following URL:
ftp://www.jrefinery.com/pub/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf

The URL is now completely unreachable. Did anyone successfully download
  

that


file before it became unreachable? If so, could he/she either send it to
  

me


or make it available to all in some other way?

Thanks in advance to all,


L.

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Re: Serializer that writes to file

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Someone correct me if I' m wrong but...

At the moment, I think you'll have to write an Action for this.  AFAIK 
Serializers are currently tied to the
response output stream.  Personally, I think that cocoon should 
ultimately seperate the location concern and
allow multiple serializers in a pipeline.  (the rationale being that 
you'll need to display something as well).

However, one could conceptualize this instead as a transformer (although 
its dirty):

my inputtransformer (writes to file) -- different output 
displayed to user

But I don't like that very much.

Perhaps this isn't a serializer at all, perhaps its some other widget 
that uses a serializer, is passed a location (file in this case), and
provides status (which returns responsibility to the sitemap). 
 Questions remain for instance on whether it consumes the SAX events 
passed to it, etc.

But the short answer is  I don't think this is the appropriate place, 
at the moment, to use a serializer

-Andy
   

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getting started.  I know that you cannot pass in a parameter to a
serializer, but I don't know of another way to do it.  I have looked
through some of the different serializer source code and am still having
trouble.  Could anyone offer up a suggestion?  I have looked around for
some sort of a serializer writing how-to, but no luck.  Would it be best to
just have either an xsp or transformer somehow just enter in the filename
into the content?  That seems kind of a hack, but hey if it works, it works
:)  If this would be a good way, then how could a write a serializer that
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Sitemap parameters and configuration of pages

2002-07-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi all,

I've got a number of pages that render links and my application base is
subject to change.  I realize that one can set a link base in the
outputted html, but I'd rather configure it on some kind of site basis. 
Is there some way to set a global parameter in the sitemap to pass to
all pipelines?  Or maybe a better way to do this.

For example:

   map:match pattern=category/*/*.html
map:aggregate element=page
 map:part src=cocoon:/itemlist/{1}.html?listid={2}/
 map:part
src=cocoon:/catnav.xml?base=/cocoon/samples/bringmethis?parent=0/
 map:part src=cocoon:/static/logo.xml/
 map:part src=cocoon:/ads.xml?pageid=FRONTPAGE/
 map:part
src=cocoon:/sitenav.xml?base=/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/
 map:part src=cocoon:/search.html/
 map:part src=cocoon:/jumpmenu.html/
/map:aggregate
!--map:transform src=stylesheets/sidebar.xsl/ --
map:transform src=stylesheets/document2html.xsl/
map:serialize type=html/
   /map:match


only instead of ?base=/cocoon/samples/bringmethis I set that somewhere
in the sitemap, even if i have to pass it to every page that needs
links, that would be ok.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

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Re: XInclude/CInclude Issue (Re: including dynamic data with XMLForm)

2002-07-08 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Humm.  I'll try that.  I still hope someone will look at my patch to 
CInclude as:

1. I imagine that its faster
2. I like the syntax better
3. I don't know why it shouldn't support some form of element selection.

-Andy

Stephan Michels wrote:

On 7 Jul 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

  

xi:include
href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
parse=xml/

does this for me:

org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: Resource not found.:
org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceNotFoundException: Resource not found
file:/opt/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/content/form/cocoon:/categories_combo.xml

So it looks like I'm stuck with an additional transformation.  Which (as
a situation) bites.




I think the problem is the 'base' attribute. If you don't specify the
'base' the XInclude transformer takes the location from the document,
which is, I think,
'file:/opt/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/content/form/'

So, to prevent that, you could create an base attribute

xi:include xml:base=cocoon:/
href=categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
parse=xml/

  

On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 17:23, Stephan Michels wrote:


On 7 Jul 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

  

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.  This is very close to what I want.
So I'm almost there, but I have to have a root element on the
categories_combo.xml page.  Its xmlformcategories.  I only
want whats in between the root element.  CInclude appears to not
support the xpointer as it was trying to treat it as part of the URL.
I'd hoped that the element attribute of the cinclude:include tag
would allow this, but it actually seems to be for doing the opposite.
I suppose I can apply an additional layer of transformation that takes
the output, includes everything but the xformcategories and then
includes its children, but that is very inefficient and kinda of a pain,
etc.

Is there a more straightforward way to take only the children of the
xmformcategories, include them without including the xmlformcategories
tag?

basically

cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml
select=xformcategories/*/

or something to that effect


And whats the result of

xi:include
href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
parse=xml/

Perhaps you forget the 'parse' attribute?

  

source of requestform.xml:

?xml version=1.0?

document xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
  xmlns:cinclude=http://apache.org/cocoon/include/1.0;

  xf:form id=request-form view=requestform
action=postrequest.html

error
  xf:violations class=error/
/error

xf:selectMany ref=/category selectUIType=listbox
xf:captionCategory/xf:caption
cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml /
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:selectMany

xf:textbox ref=/title
xf:captionTitle/Item Name (no HTML)/xf:caption
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:textbox

 snip 


xf:textbox ref=/password
xf:captionPassword/xf:caption
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:textbox

xf:submit id=next class=button
  xf:captionNext/xf:caption
/xf:submit

  /xf:form

/document


output from categories_combo.xml:

xformcategories xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
xf:item

xf:captionOriginal Art/xf:caption
xf:value16/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionAntiques/xf:caption
xf:value0/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionBooks/xf:caption
xf:value1/xf:value
/xf:item

xf:item
xf:captionCars/xf:caption
xf:value2/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionCollectibles/xf:caption
xf:value3/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionComics/xf:caption
xf:value4/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionComputers/xf:caption
xf:value5/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionCrafts/xf:caption
xf:value6/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionElectronics/xf:caption
xf:value7/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionGifts/xf:caption
xf:value8/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionLoans/xf:caption
xf:value9/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionMusic/xf:caption
xf:value10/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionOffice Supplies/xf:caption
xf:value11/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionOther/xf:caption
xf:value12/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionToys/xf:caption
xf:value13/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionTravel/xf:caption
xf:value14/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionVideos/xf:caption
xf:value15/xf:value
/xf:item
/xformcategories


-Andy


On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 14:59, Stephan Michels wrote:


On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:

  

We could use some help from the XInclude/Cinclude experts for
the problem Oliver is trying to solve.


- Original Message -
From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cocoon users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: including dynamic data with XMLForm




Hi Ivelin,

Thanks

Re: XInclude/CInclude Issue (Re: including dynamic data withXMLForm)

2002-07-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.  This is very close to what I want.
So I'm almost there, but I have to have a root element on the 
categories_combo.xml page.  Its xmlformcategories.  I only
want whats in between the root element.  CInclude appears to not
support the xpointer as it was trying to treat it as part of the URL.
I'd hoped that the element attribute of the cinclude:include tag
would allow this, but it actually seems to be for doing the opposite.  
I suppose I can apply an additional layer of transformation that takes
the output, includes everything but the xformcategories and then 
includes its children, but that is very inefficient and kinda of a pain,
etc.  

Is there a more straightforward way to take only the children of the
xmformcategories, include them without including the xmlformcategories
tag?

basically

cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml
select=xformcategories/*/

or something to that effect


source of requestform.xml:

?xml version=1.0?

document xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
  xmlns:cinclude=http://apache.org/cocoon/include/1.0;

  xf:form id=request-form view=requestform
action=postrequest.html

error
  xf:violations class=error/
/error

xf:selectMany ref=/category selectUIType=listbox
xf:captionCategory/xf:caption
cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml /
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:selectMany

xf:textbox ref=/title
xf:captionTitle/Item Name (no HTML)/xf:caption
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:textbox

 snip 


xf:textbox ref=/password
xf:captionPassword/xf:caption
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:textbox

xf:submit id=next class=button
  xf:captionNext/xf:caption
/xf:submit

  /xf:form
  
/document


output from categories_combo.xml:

xformcategories xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
xf:item

xf:captionOriginal Art/xf:caption
xf:value16/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionAntiques/xf:caption
xf:value0/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionBooks/xf:caption
xf:value1/xf:value
/xf:item

xf:item
xf:captionCars/xf:caption
xf:value2/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionCollectibles/xf:caption
xf:value3/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionComics/xf:caption
xf:value4/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionComputers/xf:caption
xf:value5/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionCrafts/xf:caption
xf:value6/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionElectronics/xf:caption
xf:value7/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionGifts/xf:caption
xf:value8/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionLoans/xf:caption
xf:value9/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionMusic/xf:caption
xf:value10/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionOffice Supplies/xf:caption
xf:value11/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionOther/xf:caption
xf:value12/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionToys/xf:caption
xf:value13/xf:value

/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionTravel/xf:caption
xf:value14/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionVideos/xf:caption
xf:value15/xf:value
/xf:item
/xformcategories


-Andy


On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 14:59, Stephan Michels wrote:
 
 On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
 
 
  We could use some help from the XInclude/Cinclude experts for
  the problem Oliver is trying to solve.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: cocoon users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:17 PM
  Subject: Re: including dynamic data with XMLForm
 
 
   Hi Ivelin,
  
   Thanks for your reply.
  
   This isn't quite quite working.  It seems to insist on resolving to a
   file.
  
   ERROR   (2002-07-07) 09:08.29:743   [sitemap]
   (/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postrequest.html)
   Thread-45/XIncludeTransformer: Error in processXIncludeElement
   org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: Resource not found.:
   org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceNotFoundException: Resource not found
  
  file:/opt/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/content/form/categories_
  combo.xml
 
 If I unterstand you right, categories_combo.xml should be generated by the
 sitemap. But XInclude transformer tries to read the file from the
 filesystem.
 
 
   My xinclude statement reads currently as follows:
  
  
  
  map:match pattern=action/categories_combo.xml
   map:generate src=content/dynamic/categories.xsp
   type=serverpages/
   map:transform src=stylesheets/categories2combo.xsl/
   map:serialize type=html/
  /map:match
  
  
   my xform page reads:
  
   xf:selectMany ref=/category selectUIType=listbox
   xf:captionCategory/xf:caption
   xi:include
   href=categories_combo.xml#xpointer(/xformcategories)/
 
 I think you should use cocoon://categories_combo.xml instead, and
 use the CInclude transformer.
 
   xf:violations class=error/
   /xf:selectMany

Re: XInclude/CInclude Issue (Re: including dynamic data withXMLForm)

2002-07-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

xi:include
href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
parse=xml/

does this for me:

org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: Resource not found.:
org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceNotFoundException: Resource not found
file:/opt/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/content/form/cocoon:/categories_combo.xml

So it looks like I'm stuck with an additional transformation.  Which (as
a situation) bites.

-Andy


On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 17:23, Stephan Michels wrote:
 
 On 7 Jul 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for your reply.  This is very close to what I want.
  So I'm almost there, but I have to have a root element on the
  categories_combo.xml page.  Its xmlformcategories.  I only
  want whats in between the root element.  CInclude appears to not
  support the xpointer as it was trying to treat it as part of the URL.
  I'd hoped that the element attribute of the cinclude:include tag
  would allow this, but it actually seems to be for doing the opposite.
  I suppose I can apply an additional layer of transformation that takes
  the output, includes everything but the xformcategories and then
  includes its children, but that is very inefficient and kinda of a pain,
  etc.
 
  Is there a more straightforward way to take only the children of the
  xmformcategories, include them without including the xmlformcategories
  tag?
 
  basically
 
  cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml
  select=xformcategories/*/
 
  or something to that effect
 
 And whats the result of
 
 xi:include
 href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
 parse=xml/
 
 Perhaps you forget the 'parse' attribute?
 
 
  source of requestform.xml:
 
  ?xml version=1.0?
 
  document xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
xmlns:cinclude=http://apache.org/cocoon/include/1.0;
 
xf:form id=request-form view=requestform
  action=postrequest.html
 
  error
xf:violations class=error/
  /error
 
  xf:selectMany ref=/category selectUIType=listbox
  xf:captionCategory/xf:caption
  cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml /
  xf:violations class=error/
  /xf:selectMany
 
  xf:textbox ref=/title
  xf:captionTitle/Item Name (no HTML)/xf:caption
  xf:violations class=error/
  /xf:textbox
 
   snip 
 
 
  xf:textbox ref=/password
  xf:captionPassword/xf:caption
  xf:violations class=error/
  /xf:textbox
 
  xf:submit id=next class=button
xf:captionNext/xf:caption
  /xf:submit
 
/xf:form
 
  /document
 
 
  output from categories_combo.xml:
 
  xformcategories xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
  xf:item
 
  xf:captionOriginal Art/xf:caption
  xf:value16/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionAntiques/xf:caption
  xf:value0/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionBooks/xf:caption
  xf:value1/xf:value
  /xf:item
 
  xf:item
  xf:captionCars/xf:caption
  xf:value2/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionCollectibles/xf:caption
  xf:value3/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionComics/xf:caption
  xf:value4/xf:value
 
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionComputers/xf:caption
  xf:value5/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionCrafts/xf:caption
  xf:value6/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionElectronics/xf:caption
  xf:value7/xf:value
 
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionGifts/xf:caption
  xf:value8/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionLoans/xf:caption
  xf:value9/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionMusic/xf:caption
  xf:value10/xf:value
 
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionOffice Supplies/xf:caption
  xf:value11/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionOther/xf:caption
  xf:value12/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionToys/xf:caption
  xf:value13/xf:value
 
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionTravel/xf:caption
  xf:value14/xf:value
  /xf:item
  xf:item
  xf:captionVideos/xf:caption
  xf:value15/xf:value
  /xf:item
  /xformcategories
 
 
  -Andy
 
 
  On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 14:59, Stephan Michels wrote:
  
   On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
  
   
We could use some help from the XInclude/Cinclude experts for
the problem Oliver is trying to solve.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: cocoon users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: including dynamic data with XMLForm
   
   
 Hi Ivelin,

 Thanks for your reply.

 This isn't quite quite working.  It seems to insist on resolving to a
 file.

 ERROR   (2002-07-07) 09:08.29:743   [sitemap]
 (/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/action/postrequest.html)
 Thread-45/XIncludeTransformer: Error in processXIncludeElement
 org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: Resource not found

Re: XInclude/CInclude Issue (Re: including dynamic data withXMLForm)

2002-07-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Thanks but XInclude really likes files:

org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: Resource not found.:
org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceNotFoundException: Resource not found
file:/opt/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/content/form/cocoon:/categories_combo.xml



On Mon, 2002-07-08 at 00:38, Michael Wechner wrote:
 
  
  xi:include
  href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
  parse=xml/
  
  Perhaps you forget the 'parse' attribute?
 
 
 
 XInclude supports the cocoon protocol and XPointer. As I know CInclude
 does not support XPointer (which you already said, sorry), which would 
 mean you have to use XInclude. I don't think you need the parse 
 attribute but rather fix the XInclude call:
 
 xi:include 
 href=cocoon:/action/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(/xformcategories/*)/
 
 The other problem I think is why are you serializing 
 categories_combo.xml as HTML instead of XML?
 

good point.  changed that. (it was so it was easy to debug when I wrote
the stylesheet).

 Hope I am not more confusing than I actually intend to help
 
 Michael
 

I appreciate it!


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Re: XInclude/CInclude Issue (Re: including dynamic data withXMLForm)

2002-07-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 20:51, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
 I'm sure there must be a more elegant way to solve the problem.
 We just need to wait a bit to hear from the XInclude developers.


Down low, too slow.  Patch incoming.  New syntax implemented for
CInclude to allow xpointers.  Will need help testing as my CInclude
experience includes about 1 entire day of goofing with the sucker.  

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/createattachment.cgi?id=10540

I added a select attribute to CInclude that supports the XPointer
syntax without the XPointer() part (just what would go between the
()'s).  (This is cleaner than the #XPointer() url-suffix nastiness).

Hopefully, one of the CInclude geniuses will take a look at this and
make it better.  I was baffled by the tall inheritance tree.  Mostly I
borrowed the code from XInclude and made it look more like CInclude
without actually understanding Avalon.

Anyhow, if someone will kindly apply this or an even better version then
my issue will be satisfied and probably others who might want to
populate HTML lists, selects, etc in XMLForm webapps.  Plus it will
solve the hole in between XInclude and CInclude.

(anything in this email that sounds arrogant is actually a whole
day/weekend of frustration suddenly alleviated -- exuberance)

Thanks,

-Andy


 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: cocoon users [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:01 PM
 Subject: Re: XInclude/CInclude Issue (Re: including dynamic data
 withXMLForm)
 
 
  xi:include
  href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
  parse=xml/
 
  does this for me:
 
  org.apache.cocoon.ResourceNotFoundException: Resource not found.:
  org.apache.excalibur.source.SourceNotFoundException: Resource not found
 
 file:/opt/tomcat/webapps/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/content/form/cocoon:/cat
 egories_combo.xml
 
  So it looks like I'm stuck with an additional transformation.  Which (as
  a situation) bites.
 
  -Andy
 
 
  On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 17:23, Stephan Michels wrote:
  
   On 7 Jul 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
  
Hi,
   
Thanks for your reply.  This is very close to what I want.
So I'm almost there, but I have to have a root element on the
categories_combo.xml page.  Its xmlformcategories.  I only
want whats in between the root element.  CInclude appears to not
support the xpointer as it was trying to treat it as part of the URL.
I'd hoped that the element attribute of the cinclude:include tag
would allow this, but it actually seems to be for doing the opposite.
I suppose I can apply an additional layer of transformation that takes
the output, includes everything but the xformcategories and then
includes its children, but that is very inefficient and kinda of a
 pain,
etc.
   
Is there a more straightforward way to take only the children of the
xmformcategories, include them without including the xmlformcategories
tag?
   
basically
   
cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml
select=xformcategories/*/
   
or something to that effect
  
   And whats the result of
  
   xi:include
   href=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml#xpointer(xformcategories/*)
   parse=xml/
  
   Perhaps you forget the 'parse' attribute?
  
   
source of requestform.xml:
   
?xml version=1.0?
   
document xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
  xmlns:cinclude=http://apache.org/cocoon/include/1.0;
   
  xf:form id=request-form view=requestform
action=postrequest.html
   
error
  xf:violations class=error/
/error
   
xf:selectMany ref=/category selectUIType=listbox
xf:captionCategory/xf:caption
cinclude:include src=cocoon:/categories_combo.xml /
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:selectMany
   
xf:textbox ref=/title
xf:captionTitle/Item Name (no HTML)/xf:caption
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:textbox
   
 snip 
   
   
xf:textbox ref=/password
xf:captionPassword/xf:caption
xf:violations class=error/
/xf:textbox
   
xf:submit id=next class=button
  xf:captionNext/xf:caption
/xf:submit
   
  /xf:form
   
/document
   
   
output from categories_combo.xml:
   
xformcategories xmlns:xf=http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xmlform/2002;
xf:item
   
xf:captionOriginal Art/xf:caption
xf:value16/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionAntiques/xf:caption
xf:value0/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionBooks/xf:caption
xf:value1/xf:value
/xf:item
   
xf:item
xf:captionCars/xf:caption
xf:value2/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item
xf:captionCollectibles/xf:caption
xf:value3/xf:value
/xf:item
xf:item

including dynamic data with XMLForm

2002-07-06 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hi All,

I'm trying to create a page where a multi-select list has options that
are populated from a database.  What is not immediately clear to me is
how I can create an XMLForm page where the list contents are dynamically
generated.  Any clues?

-Andy
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Re: can't start cocoon under root

2002-07-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Hummm.  I'm not running Apache as root (its running as nobody).  It 
responds on port 80.  
I'm starting it with apachectl.  

Its generally a better idea to run Apache in front of tomcat for 
performance reasons.  Tomcat is
actually pretty slow on the scale of things, where Apache is actually 
pretty fast (especially 2.xx).
If you let it handle the requests and forward them where appropriate 
you'll be a lot better off.  
Especially for images.

-Andy

Bruno Dumon wrote:

On Thu, 2002-07-04 at 21:09, Thomas Garger wrote:
  

but if i don't start tomcat as root, i can not run it under
the port 80 - because only the root user has access rights
to to ports below 1024.

am i wrong??



no, that's right.

  

or can i configure my linux system, that a normal-user (no root)
van start tomcat under the port 90?



Not that I know.

Usually Apache is put in front of tomcat (using mod_jk to connect the
two).

Apache, being a native application, can start as root (so it can bind to
port 80), and change the user id of the processes that handle the
requests to another user.

  





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Re: can't start cocoon under root

2002-07-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

True.  The processes handling the requests however run as nobody.  I
suppose one could still find a way to compromise the master process, but
I find it way more likely that they'd compromise the children. 
Furthermore, Its still a horrid idea to run tomcat as root, as you're
running *everything* under tomcat as root as well.  

-Andy

On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 14:17, Bruno Dumon wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-07-05 at 15:48, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
  Hummm.  I'm not running Apache as root (its running as nobody).  It 
  responds on port 80.  
  I'm starting it with apachectl.  
  
 
 If it responds to port 80, the main httpd process is running with root
 privileges. The user that is used for the childprocesses handling the
 requests is normally specified using the 'User' directive in the
 httpd.conf
 
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Re: can't start cocoon under root

2002-07-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

just for the record.  You really shouldn't run tomcat as root.  

Thomas Garger wrote:

hi!

i use tomcat 4.0.1, cocoon 2.0.2 and SUSE linux 8.0

if i start tomcat under a normal user (not root) everthing
works fine.

but if i start tomcat under root user - and i want to access cocoon

-there is an error message in my catalin.out like this:
Xlib: connection to 212.186.159.80:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

-the cocoon page puts out the following
org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Error compiling sitemap:
java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0.0'
as the value of the DISPLAY variable.
.
.
.

-my startup.sh looks as following :
export DISPLAY=212.186.159.80:0
BASEDIR=`dirname $0`
$BASEDIR/catalina.sh start $@

if i don't put in the line export DISPLAY=212.186.159.80:0,
than under a normal user it's also not working

why this works with a non root user and not with root?

greetings, tom


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Re: can't start cocoon under root

2002-07-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I can't say.  Why?  The set of possibilities are infinite.  This is a 
basic prinicipal of unix security.  Never run any
daemon as root.  I for one always create a special user for tomcat. 
 That way if tomcat is compromized, only that which tomcat owns
or can write to is compromized.  I usually create a special group as 
well and don't let tomcat own anything.

Asking what are all the security holes is the wrong question.  

Read: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO/index.html - while it is 
aimed at linux, some applies universally to other unicies as well.

Do you absolutely trust:
   1. tomcat to never have a security hole
   2. cocoon to never have a security hole
   3. all applications (servlets/etc) running under Cocoon/tomcat to 
never have security holes.
   4. if the answer to any of the above is no, then do you trust EVERY 
user on the network (for example the internet) to never ever
   do anything to try and exploit that.

An example: Say you have a servlet/xsp/action/whatever that based on the 
passed in username writes an new file in /opt/tomcat/userinfo as to when 
the user logged in/etc with the username as the filename.  You have two 
parameters, username and the message.  The servlet/xsp/action/whatever 
gets executed
on occassion as a service.  Usernames are permitted to have 
web-address-illegal characters in them so you url-encode them.  The 
message is anything.

So I being a savy hacker set my username to ../../../etc/passwd and the 
log message to andy:ptpasswd:  (can't rembmer the syntax but you 
get the point).  Well thanks for root access, I'll just telnet (DISABLE 
TELNET and use SSH) into your box and format the hard drive or use it to 
hack into the military or crash yahoo with flood attacks or something... 
 Those nice men in the black suits will be at your door shortly to 
question you about your internet usage...

Okay...a bit of an exaggeration...  Don't run tomcat (or anything else 
where you have a choice) as root.

-Andy


Thomas Garger wrote:

why not?
could there be some security problems? which one?

greetings, chris

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Sent: Donnerstag, 04. Juli 2002 18:33
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Subject: Re: can't start cocoon under root


just for the record.  You really shouldn't run tomcat as root.  

Thomas Garger wrote:

  

hi!

i use tomcat 4.0.1, cocoon 2.0.2 and SUSE linux 8.0

if i start tomcat under a normal user (not root) everthing works fine.

but if i start tomcat under root user - and i want to access cocoon

-there is an error message in my catalin.out like this:
Xlib: connection to 212.186.159.80:0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

-the cocoon page puts out the following
org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Error compiling sitemap:
java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using 
':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. .
.
.

-my startup.sh looks as following :
export DISPLAY=212.186.159.80:0
BASEDIR=`dirname $0`
$BASEDIR/catalina.sh start $@

if i don't put in the line export DISPLAY=212.186.159.80:0, than 
under a normal user it's also not working

why this works with a non root user and not with root?

greetings, tom


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Re: Samples as tools for learning and development (Was: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing)

2002-06-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver



I always look at samples and docs. The issue is that there's not enough of
them. And some people deny the very existance of this issue.
  

I have never heard anyone deny that.

However the docs are improving, and the message of this topic has been
gotten, at least by few developers. Others are still in denial mode, but
it's Ok. 
  

No, the bulk of the message I tried to deliver is:  everyone is aware of 
it, people are working on it, if
it truely bothers you, pay for your opensource software and be one of 
those people.

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Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver



After just a few hours of poking around I have decided that it will be 
much simpler for me to simply hand-code a whole hat-full of servlets 
than to try and pull any meaning out of Cocoon and it's documentation.
Fifteen hours on the Interstate wasn't as challenging as trying to 
figure out how one should check a Web Form this month but I didn't have 
that feeling of travelling backwards half of the time. I was also able 
to predict and achieve forward progress (for a change).
  

I hope you had a nice trip.  Web Form stuff is a bit beta at the moment, 
so you'll need to
excercise patience and a willingness to help.

Thanks guys, but no thanks. 
  

Maybe I'm getting old, but I really don't understand the need for all 
of the complexity and the lack of documentation in this product.
  

Perhaps its not a product at all, maybe its a software development 
community and a project all
wrapped up into one.

On the other hand, I used to feel the same way about the mind-numbing 
complexity of a certain thirty-year-old mainframe operating system 
(MVS) produced by IBM back in the sixties and it's patching system 
(SMP4). So it can't just be my age. 

Anyway, Cocoon has cost me far morte (a typo that's better than the 

You seem lively to me.

original word) time than it was worth. The chief problems appear to 
have been endlessly re-invented terminology for an overwhelming number 
of 'new concepts' and a complete lack of consistency between different 
components (i.e. functional code, non-functional examples, unbuildable 
documentation and a website that doesn't match up with any single 
released version of the project).
  

So did you fix them?  Did you raise these points and offer to help?

I have a lot of respect for the ability of the people who have built 
this project, but I want them to know that their project appears to be 
out-of-control and could become very difficult to manage. If 
experienced developers (like myself) can't figure out how to use enough 
features in the product to make it worth using, then penetration will 
be limited and all of your efforts will be wasted. There is more to 
this business than stuffing in features at the expense of documentation 
and testing. You have a lot of very good ideas, but the execution of 
the project as a whole seems to be suffering.
  

I'm significantly less experienced and I figured a large amount of it out.

You: Oh I can't figure it out I'm leaving

Me: How do I?   What is a?  And I'm working on creating an 
example webapp
(http://www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/index.html) 
that utilizes
forms, etc.  I'll accompany it (NOT RIGHT AWAY) with explanations and 
documentation
(written in plain English).

I know that I will often look at my JSP and servlet code and think 'XSP 
and Cocoon were sooo much better!' until I remember that I wasn't ever 
able to use enough of Cocoon to make a profit.


I run Cocoon in fairly low amount of memory.  Certainly more than JSP 
and a Servlet, but then again
when I load the Connection pooling, caching, and other services a 
serious JSP application would require,
I'm not so sure it comes that far ahead

While I agree with many of your criticisms, especially the Avalonian 
(language of the Avalon-
Cocoon developers) and lack of meaningful documentation, I adamntly 
believe that the problem here
lies within you.  

This is participatory software.  You didn't pay for it.  You don't get 
to call up Microsoft support and
scream at them and wonder why they come back at you 2 weeks later with 
the wrong answer and
wait for service pack 2 for a fix.  You fix it.  If you're lucky, you 
fix it in collaboration with others!

Next, as I get older I get more patient.  I'd hate to see how impatient 
you were at my age or Wow.
There are MULTIPLE books coming out on Cocoon, some by its very 
developers others by great
folks like Conrad D'Cruz.  In the next few months, such things will be 
clearer.

Personally, I think if you have this attitude If I can't figure it out 
it must suck and I'll take my cookies and
go home then I think you're contributing to this software development 
community in the best possible
way you ever could.leaving it before you break something.  If you're 
perhaps new to opensource
community-based development, maybe you should ask for help and take some 
more time to read up on the
subject.  You'll find if you expend the effort, folks can be downright 
friendly and helpful.  Of course
its up to you.  And psychological theory indicates you'll read this and 
disregard it.  So I'm more writing it
for the next person that comes along.  Hope this helps!

-Andy

Oh, well, at least all of my test systems have bags of memory now!

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Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I'm not saying there aren't issues.  I'm saying his attitude is wrong.   
You pay for this by participating.  If
the issue was unknown this would be valuable, but this issue is known. 
 Help fix it or accept it.  Or fund
someone else to help fix it.  If you see a nail sticking up, grab a 
hammer.  Don't whine, and
take you cookies and go home.  If this were a commercial piece of 
software, that would be your best course of
action as a customer.  Thats not the case here.

-Andy


What do you mean by better support? 




Maybe I'm suffering from dislexia, but reading the docs in
xml.apache.org/cocoon helped me only to understand the highest level
concepts. There were lots of tiny little issues which are not covered
anywhere  in the documentation. What's the best way to do this and this?.
No answers anywhere but here, in the mailing list. Ok, I have a habit to
look into sources when I've time, but sometimes there's no time. You came
here and ask a question, hopefully soon you get an answer. Then comes
another issue, then another and so on. Finally, you spend whole day on some
stupid problem which could be resolved with good FAQ. 

I have to admit that things are improving with docs. FAQs are becoming real
FAQs, not those short read mailing list as they were before. IBM's
tutorials are a very positive step, I recommend them to everybody. They help
a lot. Again, I'm not complaining I just want to say that there's an issue,
and I'm glad that the situation with documentation is improving. I think
that the biggest issue with Cocoon is its docs.

  

and better documentation. 

I'm not complaining, by the way. I'd love Cocoon become a mainstream
framework.
  

So, help us make it better. 



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Re: Giving up! Cocoon too big, slow and confusing

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver


 2) Documentation is not usefull - sorry.  I've tried and tried.  The 
 closest it has come to being useful is that after I've spent hours on 
 something and asked questions on the mail lists I have been able to 
 go back to it and say oh.. that's what they meant


 What documents were not helpful in what cases?
 What couldn't you find?
 How did you search for it?

I disagree, the documentation is in fact inadequate.

 4) Generally helpful but inconsistant responses from the mail lists. 
 You should seriously consider joining the two lists as all it is 
 doing right now is making me have to search both lists for everything 
 that i'm looking for.  Many of the questions were answered in a way 
 which built character but were much too cryptic to be helpful to 
 anyone who comes later.  (I'm sure this is because the really 
 knowledgeable people are spending too much time answering e-mails).


 We give help. *Not* complete solutions. We are not paid for it, it's 
 all free help.

Yes.  If you want commecial support for Cocoon, get commecial support 
for cocoon.


 2) I don't have time to read the source code - not because I can't or 
 won't from some misplaced belief that it shouldn't be necessary - 
 because I don't believe it would be time well spent - too much of a 
 lack of basic doco to make it worth the time.


 Sorry but I don't get it.
 We have *tons* of documentation. But you just gotta learn ;-)

You're both wrong.  From his part he must realize this is participatory 
software.  Understand your role, you're not a customer, you're
a:

1. Beta Tester
2. Developer
3. Documentor

of the software.  And ken is wrong, the documentation is in fact VERY 
lacking.

If you'd rather have a black box where you make phone calls and someone 
jumps, then you can pay someone and use Cocoon, or you can just blow 
some serious coin and get a commercial solution.  

-Andy


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RE: XMLForm Control of flow

2002-06-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I asked the exact same question.  So can we use this flowmap with
XMLForm?  I'd much rather.  The action classes I'm writing are very
stupid and redundant.

-Andy

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 04:46, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
 There is am Mail from Konstantin --
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-usersm=102380667528528w=2
 
 Regards,
 Reinhard
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Graaf, Edgar de (fin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:15 AM
  To: Cocoon-Users (E-mail)
  Subject: XMLForm  Control of flow
 
 
  People,
 
  I was experimenting with XMLForm and the Howto example. It works,
  but I have
  some question. I am hoping someone can answer them.
 
  1. Why is the flow controled with HowtoWizardAction? And not with
  help of a
  xml like struts-config?
  2. When I repeated the steps and unchecked the boxes. Then when I
  arrive at
  confirm input everthing is still true. Do I have to invalidate the session
  or something? Shouldn't that happen the moment you push finish?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Edgar
 
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Re: [Juglist] Struts 2x vs larval Cocoon?

2002-06-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

 
 Thomas L Roche wrote:
 
 Struts can do pure-XML: see
 
 http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-02-2002/jw-0201-strutsxslt_p.html
 
 But can Cocoon be made to handle JSPs? Why I ask:
 
 Yes, Cocoon is cool, and JSPs are icky-poo. If one is developing a new
 site, from scratch, Cocoon would seem to be the way to go. However,
 there are a lotta JSPs out there, and one can reasonably surmise that
 the vast majority of Java-ish websites have at least some legacy JSPs.
 So consider the possible thought processes of members of two groups of
 Javans as they plan future activity:
   
 
 Like this (haven't tried it myself)?
 
 http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/generators/jsp-generator.html
 
 * site developers/maintainers
 
   Unfortunately only a tiny minority are at present fully XML/XSL
   compliant. (I suspect: feel free to confirm/confront with real
   data.) One suspects the vast majority are vanilla Model 1, with a
   minority having gone to something like Struts, Velocity, etc. These
   folks aren't especially stupid or lazy, but they've got other things
   to do, and they've got legacy that is good enough.
 
   If a typical enduser is motivated enough to go XML-centric,
   wouldn't it be a lot easier and less risky to migrate toward
   something like Struts (2 or 2x), than to Big Bang straight to
   Cocoon? (I know about Struts--I neglect Velocity etc because I know
   so little about them.) Or is it Real Easy to migrate JSPs to XSPs?
   
 
 Cocoon is what I like to think of as 2.0-centric.  Meaning it has a 
 higher initial cost but if used well, should
 reduce your cost of maintaining it over time.  Its not the first release 
 that usually hurts, its the second...third...etc.
 Costs go up as your software continues to develop.  Cocoon can help with 
 this by more completely seperating
 your style, data, logic, etc.  (as you cross the learning curve of 
 Cocoon and use it in a couple apps, that learning curve goes down)
 
 Is Cocoon appropriate for you farm of dreamweaver users?  Probably not. 
  But Really if you think about it neither is JSP.
 (I hear Velocity is nice for that)  I suspect as the tools improve 
 Cocoon will be better for this as you can seperate your applications 
 more as far as logic and style and content, etc.  XSLT has a bit of a 
 learning curve, but I often wonder if I'd find it so hard if I were less
 of a programmer type.  I think there is a lot more opportunity for 
 non-programmers to work with the style XSLT in the end.  But case in 
 point. . . those tools aren't there yet.
 
 I don't feel that its any less risky to adopt Struts and migrate to 
 Cocoon than just goto Cocoon with maybe JSPs running through the JSP 
 generator (based on the assumption that the JSP generator is a workable 
 solution) and migrate those to XSPs/etc over time.  The areas I'm most 
 concerned with Cocoon have to do with performance under load.  Then 
 again, if its good enough for NASA.. (no mars lander jokes or you 
 get thwapped!)
 
 * tools builders
 
   I'd like to work on Cocoon tooling, and I suspect many managers
   would too. But they've gotta think about how much resource they can
   devote to any particular project, and what the market for their
   product would be. And, again, incrementality (of effort) and
   marketing (of product) would both seem (IMHO) to favor going toward
   Struts 2x.
 
 These concerns would be mitigated if there was an easier migration
 path to Cocoon. (I.e. a larval stage before going to pupa :-)
 Is there? Or am I missing something?
   
 
 Above, you see the JSP-generator.  Next I give you XML-Form which even 
 states that its heavily influenced by struts. 
  http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/howto/xmlform-wizard/howto-xmlform-wizard.html 
  -- Danger, its work in progress.  This is the last major hole in 
 Cocoon, its nearly plugged (hence the .81 version number), but it may 
 change a bit.
 
 * Principal flaws in Cocoon *
 
 The documentation is getting better but still sucks.  
 
 The community that supports it is composed of XML and Avalon folks who 
 only occasionally delve into english explanations of what the heck 
 things are, preferring to speak XML-ian and Avalonian most of the time. 
  (Watch a mail list and you'll see what I mean, in fact I don't think 
 any of them go a whole sentence without using SoC or IoC...and if you 
 don't know what those stand for well you'll feel pretty lost), where the 
 Struts folks are generally more geared towards the rest of us.  
 
 Marketing problem.  What is Cocoon?  An XML Framework?  (well your 
 sources nor your output, nor your transformations necessarily have to be 
 in XML...really only the sitemap has to be XML...but then again IIRC 
 struts has XML config files too...),  A publishing framework?  (that 
 begs the question on what is publishing), you can have forms and reports 
 coming out of  Cocoon.  
 Where, Struts is an MVC framework for JSPs simple to say.
 
 Heavy.  Cocoon is heavier than JSP 

Re: XMLForms. HOWTO bug?

2002-06-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

As soon as I figure out how to use it I plan to :-)

I've started my rewrite of this site: www.bringmethis.com using Cocoon 
(and hence XMLForm).   In the process I'll be happy to contribute a 
hello XMLForm example once I actually figure out how to get it working. 
 I'm a little slower than the rest of ya.

-Andy

Ivelin Ivanov wrote:


 Interested to write one ? ;)


 Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

 Yromem.com MailingList wrote:

 Hi,

 do you plan to write a simple way to use XMLForm when we need only 
 one Form :
with no need to write a javabean (or javacode)
 I trie to understand all the XMLForm, but it is difficult to me. 
 (the java part)

 Khalid.




 +1 -- We need a Hello XMLForm example.



 Ivelin Ivanov wrote:


 UserBean.java:
   private Node system;

 This an attribute which is of type org.w3c.dom.Node

 This is used in the FeedBack Wiazard demo to show how JavaBeans can 
 be mixed with dom nodes. It is referenced on the page where you 
 select Operating System, RAM, App server, etc.

 If you're not going to need DOM nodes in your Form model, you can 
 ignore   this attribute. Just delete it.

 I am not sure why it is in the HowTo though. Don't think it is 
 necessary. Heidi?


 Ivelin





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Re: XMLForms. HOWTO bug?

2002-06-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Yromem.com MailingList wrote:

 Hi,

 do you plan to write a simple way to use XMLForm when we need only one 
 Form :
with no need to write a javabean (or javacode)
 I trie to understand all the XMLForm, but it is difficult to me. (the 
 java part)

 Khalid.


+1 -- We need a Hello XMLForm example.



 Ivelin Ivanov wrote:


 UserBean.java:
   private Node system;

 This an attribute which is of type org.w3c.dom.Node

 This is used in the FeedBack Wiazard demo to show how JavaBeans can 
 be mixed with dom nodes. It is referenced on the page where you 
 select Operating System, RAM, App server, etc.

 If you're not going to need DOM nodes in your Form model, you can 
 ignore   this attribute. Just delete it.

 I am not sure why it is in the HowTo though. Don't think it is 
 necessary. Heidi?


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Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted

2002-05-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver



My e-mail is for pointing out that all our actions should be done only for
the improvement of cocoon. We all love cocoon: I have seen some people's
names for almost two years in the Cooon User List.
  

Dude, using Cocoon commercially for your own benifit, benefits Cocoon. 
 Writing a book and keeping the measly profit (that is in no way 
adequate compensation for the time and effort taken to write such a 
book), seriously benefits Cocoon.

If the book, as I hope, is published for promoting Cocoon, for improving it,
well I am proud to know Carsten and Matthew and I applaud them.
  

And I hope they make some serious Benjamins (or whatever the appropriate 
European slang term is for cash) in the process.  Though fat chance of that.

Don't get GNU-brainwashed, not everyone believes benefitting financially 
from opensource is immoral.

-Andy



Marco

+---+
Software engineer  Spinetti Marco
Italy
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- Original Message -
From: Konstantin Piroumian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted


  

From: marco spinetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]



One question: is the profit for the apache software foundation (ASF)?

If not, in my opinion it's against the open source apache philosophy.

Cocoon is borned as open source project and then all is free.
  

Yes, you don't pay to use Cocoon. But nobody prevents you to provide
commersial support for it. More over, if I understand the Apache license
correctly: you can even modify it and distribute if the license conditions
are met.



Are you a member of people that created Cocoon?
  

Don't tell this to Carsten Ziegeler [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] - Cocoon's
Release Manager - who is the co-author of the book. And Matthew Langham
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] is his boss, if my information is correct, aren't


you
  

Matthew? ;).



Have you received the assent from ASF or people as Stefano Mazzocchi?

If yes all is ok, otherwise in my opinion you are speculating on Cocoon.
  

Hm... In this case we are all speculating on Cocoon: one uses it to make
easier his paid work, another one to get some profit from consulting, the
thirds are writing books and every usage of Cocoon directly or indirectly
pays back to the community by promoting Cocoon, improving it, etc.

Konstantin



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From: Matthew Langham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: Cocoon book reviewers wanted


Hi Paul

  

By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that
accurate?

Yes.

Matthew

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-Original Message-
From: Paul Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cocoon book reviewers wanted


Hi Matthew,

I'm new to Cocoon but have many years software engineering experience. I
assume your book is of an introductory nature and, if so, I would be
  

keen
  

to


review some chapters.

By the way, Amazon states the book will be published on July 19. Is that
accurate?

Paul

- Original Message -
From: Matthew Langham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:35 PM
Subject: Cocoon book reviewers wanted


  

Hi,

together with our publisher (www.newriders.com), we are looking for


people


interested in reviewing chapters from our book. Hopefully you will


have
  

something positive to say and then your quote may be used in the book


or
  

to
  

promote it.

If you would be interested then please send me an email. Please note


that


we
  

will only be able to suggest (!!) reviewers - our publisher will


choose.
  

And
  

probably only a few of those in the end.

Thanks

Matthew

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Re: MS Excel

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Can you supply the XML you're using?  have you tried turning Logkit.conf 
in WEB-INF/conf to DEBUG for everything and looking in WEB-INF/logs/* 
for details?  

-Andy

Andrew Timberlake wrote:

I understand that the XSL Serializer is now Cocoon's domain instead of
POI.
I know that using Gnumeric to create initial xml for use through the
serializer should work.
I am using Gnumeric 1.0.4 on Redhat 7.3 to generate a basic spreadsheet
and then trying to serialize it but it is crashing MS Excel 2000?

Anyone got some ideas on what I may be doing wrong thanks.

PS. Cocoon 2.0.2a

  





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Re: MS Excel

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

cool I'll take a look at it.

Andrew Timberlake wrote:

Andy

I have attached the xml file, I typed 'bob' in cell A1 and saved as XML.
There are no errors or other in the logs files.

Andrew

On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 21:09, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
  

Can you supply the XML you're using?  have you tried turning Logkit.conf 
in WEB-INF/conf to DEBUG for everything and looking in WEB-INF/logs/* 
for details?  

-Andy

Andrew Timberlake wrote:



I understand that the XSL Serializer is now Cocoon's domain instead of
POI.
I know that using Gnumeric to create initial xml for use through the
serializer should work.
I am using Gnumeric 1.0.4 on Redhat 7.3 to generate a basic spreadsheet
and then trying to serialize it but it is crashing MS Excel 2000?

Anyone got some ideas on what I may be doing wrong thanks.

PS. Cocoon 2.0.2a

 

  



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Re: MS Excel

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Ahh...  Okay this makes sense.  I didn't read carefully enough about the 
version of Cocoon.
I'd highly suggest using a recent nightly build of the serializer if 
you're using gnumeric 1.0.3+ (the format changed).  A number of 
enhancements have been added recently as well as preliminary work on 
support for formulas.  

You can leave out formatting/style information.  The default style 
should be applied.  The serializer completely ignores printer 
information.  If you grab a recent build of Cocoon there is 
documentation on exactly what the serializer pays attention to and ignores.

If you decide to use the released version you'll need to use an earlier 
version of Gnumeric to match (pre 1.03 should work).

-Andy

 

Andrew Timberlake wrote:

Typically, as I posted my last message I thought of how I could fix it.
I changed the xmlns to xmlns:gmr=http://www.gnome.org/gnumeric/v7; and
added gmr:Content/gmr:Content around the content and it works.

I do still have one question. I want to produce a fairly complicated
spreadsheet through an XSL transformation, what information can be left
out of the gmr namespace and what cannot.
Can I just include cell information or do I need the style and print
information as well?

Thanks for any help

Andrew

On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 21:20, Andrew Timberlake wrote:
  

Andy

I thought I'd add that the Excel samples all work!

Andrew

On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 21:09, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:


Can you supply the XML you're using?  have you tried turning Logkit.conf 
in WEB-INF/conf to DEBUG for everything and looking in WEB-INF/logs/* 
for details?  

-Andy

Andrew Timberlake wrote:

  

I understand that the XSL Serializer is now Cocoon's domain instead of
POI.
I know that using Gnumeric to create initial xml for use through the
serializer should work.
I am using Gnumeric 1.0.4 on Redhat 7.3 to generate a basic spreadsheet
and then trying to serialize it but it is crashing MS Excel 2000?

Anyone got some ideas on what I may be doing wrong thanks.

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Re: Cocoon 2 + Access

2002-05-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

+1

Torsten Curdt wrote:

Sorry, this will not help but...

If you want to stay away from problems, stay away from access...

Just my two cents...
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Re: ESQL HTML

2002-05-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Christian Haul wrote:

On 12.May.2002 -- 05:50 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
  

In order to do this I need to insert some html, and then I need to get
out some html.  Unfortunately, so far I'm getting coded HTML.  gt; and 
the likes.  Can someone point me to a method based on the below pages
that would accomplish this?  Its okay if another transformation is



Andy, you want to shove html to / from the database? If it was xhtml
esql:get-xml/ and the util logicsheet util:include-expr/ provides
the functionality.

If it is no xhtml, it needs to be converted e.g. by tidy.

   Chris.

  

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Re: [DOC] How to contribute documentation

2002-05-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

 the docs.
 
 And, of course, Nicola Ken is responsible for a very wonderful part of 
 the Forrest project, which among many other things, helps build static 
 versions of Apache-like web sites. When it is integrated into Cocoon, 
 you will have even more useful tools as a contributor. His build scripts 
 are a great way to take advantage of Cocoon's command line when you need 
 to generate static parts of your web site.  Among other things, this 
 static build process in Forrest includes a mechanism for checking links. 
 This could be very useful to Cocoon-doc effort, because it will help 
 contributors discover if their revisions impact other pages/links within 
 the site.
 


ss ...  It will go to his head.  :-D

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Re: [DOC] Cocoon Related Resources (attached)

2002-05-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I think these changes should follow the same procedure as patches.  Put 
in bugzilla and attach the files rather than send them to the list. 
 (save the bug, go back to the bug and attach, use [PATCH] in the subject)  

-Andy

Andreas Hochsteger wrote:

Hi!

I finally managed to get my text-only listing of cocoon related resources 
converted to the document XML format. All files are located in the directory 
src/documentation/xdocs/links.

I chose the following structure, all reachable via the menu entry Links:

* Main (../index.xml)
* Overview (index.xml)

Resources:
* Tips and Guides (tips_guides.xml
* Books (books.xml)
* Training (training.xml)

Sites:
* Cocoon Sites (sites.xml)
* Projects (projects.xml)
* Live Sites (livesites.xml)
* Cocoon Hosting (hosting.xml)

Related Links:
* XML (xml.xml)
* XSL/XSLT (xsl.xml)

I've attached the file xdocs.tar.gz which contains a modified book.xml 
(original file was just checked out) for the main menu and the directory 
links with all the other files. Simply replace 
src/documentation/xdocs/book.xml with the one in the attachment and copy the 
directory links to src/documentation/xdocs/. Now you should see the new menu 
entry.
I moved the menu entries 'Live Sites', 'Cocoon Hosting' and 'XML Links' to the 
new directory and split the links from the menu entry 'Cocoon Links' into the 
link categories where the fit now.

I'd be happy for your feedback, especially the wording of the menu entries 
(which I'm not yet very happy with in some cases).

  



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Re: Installing cocoon

2002-05-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Have you all read the installation instructions?  Getting it to work in
4.0.3 is a pain.  Either be happy with 4.0.1 or go to 4.0.4b2 both of
which are easy.  

I'd consider tomcat 4.0.2/3 duds overall anyhow.  I've not had time to
really look into what exactly is wrong with them, but things tend not to
work in them that work elsewhere.

Be advised that jdk 1.4 breaks database code.  You'll have to create
special compiles of avalon components to get that puppy to fly.  Sun
feels this only effects database vendors

-Andy

On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 09:36, Conrad F. D'Cruz wrote:
 Robert,
 
 I would not classify myself as a C2 expert by any long shot.  I have been
 bloodying my nose on Cocoon for about 5 months.  Every day is a new
 experience ... every step is a new experience.
 
 If I succeed in the install I will send you the steps.  If I fail ... you will
 hear
 about that too!!
 
 By the time I get done mastering Cocoon 2.0 maybe I will become a philosopher
 :)
 
 Conrad
 
 Bobrs wrote:
 
  Conrad,
  Thanks by your attention !!! I would like a lot of if you returned your
  steps to install the 4.0.3 + cocoon 2.0.2 + j2sdk 1.4.
So, like you have more experience with this softwares,  I would
  like to know if this is a better option to convert files xml to pdf !?!?!
Do you have some examples about this ?!?!
 
   Thanks, one more time !!
 
  Robert
 
  Conrad F. D'Cruz wrote:
 
   Bobrs,
  
   Yes I struggled with that one too.  You will have to download the
   cocoon-2.0.2-src.zip
   and that's where you will find the missing pieces.
  
   I did have trouble with J2DK1.4 ... so I backtracked to jdk1.3 + tomcat
   4.0.1 + cocoon 2.0.1 and everything worked okay.
  
   I am planning on revisiting the 4.0.3 + cocoon 2.0.2 + j2sdk 1.4 install
   sometime next week and I will document the steps (and/or frustrations and
   email them to you.)
  
   Hope that helps.
   Conrad
 
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Re: Can't connect to MySQL with Cocoon 2

2002-05-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

You can install *headless X* (Xvfb) which is BTW faster than X.  Or you
can just *not* install Batik (delete the batik jar and compile cocoon). 
The samples may have to be tweaked not to use Batik, but it will work.

Lastly if you're really industrious you can use PJAbut I couldn't
get the sucker to work with jdk 1.3.1.

-Andy


On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 10:03, Daniel Vogelheim wrote:
 Hello Zack,
 
 Apparently a lot of people have been having trouble getting mySQL+C2 to work
 with the 1.4 JDK. I'd try 1.3 and see if that helps any. HTH.
 
 Thanks; that solves it. With IBM's JDK 1.3 my setup worked right away.
 
 The reason I used JDK 1.4 is because I don't run X. According to the
 FAQ, only JDK 1.4 can run in 'headless' mode, and indeed with JDK 1.3
 Cocoon doesn't start unless I also run X. So my problem is solved for
 now, but I'm hoping for a better long-term solution (i.e., no X, and
 still MySQL access).
 
 Thanks everyone!
 
 Sincerely,
 Daniel
 
 
 [original problem was:]
  I have a problem connecting to a MySQL database with Cocoon. When I
  try to access a page that goes through the SQLTransformer, the browser
  doesn't deliver any result. There's no error message, the browser just
  sits there and waits for data. The Coccon core.log file contains an
  error message No valid Jdbc Connection class available. (More
  details follow below.)
  
  I've checked Google, the mailing list archive, and the FAQs, but
  didn't find anything that seemed to help. I'm surely missing
  something; aynone out there can help me?
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RE: HSSF serializer/ Gnumeric file format information

2002-04-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

if you have your cocoon nighly build or cvs copy there is also
documentation under the user manual.  This looks just like the site, but
I haven't figured out how to have it pushed to the site.  (sorry)
(actually I also haven't tried or even asked so my fault)

You can find the most info about the gnumeric format itself by reading
the schema which is in the root module of the gnumeric project.  (also
the sources are cvsweb'd)  goto www.gnome.org/gnumeric for details.  The
cocoon documentation on the serializer however explains the subset that
HSSF cares about.  

Of course the samples are as Darrell mentioned, the best way to learn.

-Andy

On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 18:19, Darrell Cumming wrote:
 Hi Micheal, 
 
 If you have a look in your COCOON_HOME/samples/poi/ 
 there is some sample xml docuemnts and stylesheets to get started with. =)
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Darrell
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Aracic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: April 30, 2002 1:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: HSSF serializer/ Gnumeric file format information
  
  
  Please forgive me for asking somewhat basic questions, but 
  I'm new to the list, and to cocoon. I've read a lot of the 
  online documentation, and I can't find anything detailed or 
  up to date about the HSSF serializer. I'm developing a 
  hands-off way to generate reports in excel format without 
  necessarily depending on windows hosted code. From what I've 
  read, the most platform-independent, flexible way of doing 
  this is currently using Cocoon's HSSF serializer. It sounds 
  like the simplest approach is to create an XSL stylesheet 
  that will transform our reporting program's XML output into 
  Gnumeric style XML, then run cocoon in command line mode, 
  reading in the XML reports. Cocoon will be configured to do 
  the transformation, then use the HSSF serializer to output 
  excel files. My questions are: 1. Have I overlooked anything 
  huge? 2. Where can I find information on HSSF or the Gnumeric 
  file format? I've used all the major search engines and 
  looked at all relevant project pages, and I haven't been able 
  to find what I need, which would include a description of the 
  Gnumeric file format, and exactly how the HSSF serializer 
  needs to be fed its input. 3. I imagine that the differences 
  between the XML that comes out of my reports program, and the 
  XML that is required by the serializer will be quite 
  profound. Are there any tools or resources that can help me 
  write the XSL stylesheet? I've read dozens of explanations of 
  how to transform different kinds of XML documents into HTML, 
  but very few about how to transform it into anything else. 
  Thanks, Michael Aracic
  
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gnumeric file format (HSSF) doc

2002-04-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

one of the more frequent questions about the HSSF Serializer is about the HSSF file 
format. 
 Obviously the samples are the best place to start but here is a pretty 
big hunk of information: 
ftp://www.jrefinery.com/pub/jworkbook/gnumeric-xml.pdf

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Re: NPE when using HSSFSerializer + big pipeline

2002-04-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

I've moved both your emails to a folder named tasks.  I will look at
this and get back to you.  By the looks of this error it looks like
invalid data (a null where it expects characters).

-Andy

On Wed, 2002-04-24 at 10:09, Seth Ladd wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm using the following pipeline:
 
 map:pipeline
 map:match pattern=*.xml
 map:generate src={1}.xml/
 map:transform type=sql
 map:parameter name=use-connection value=seclog/
 /map:transform
 map:transform src=test.xslt/
 map:transform src=output.xslt/
 map:transform src=convert.xslt/
 map:transform src=final.xslt/
 map:serialize type=xls/
 /map:match
 /map:pipeline
 
 Notice at the end, I use the HSSFSerializer.  I currently am getting a
 huge string of NPEs in the error.log (included below).
 
 When I change to the xml serializer or the html serializer, it works
 great.  Also, I've tested the output from final.xslt (saved as raw xml)
 and piped it directly into the HSSFSerializer which worked great.  I
 only get the NPEs when using the above pipeline.
 
 Does this NPE make any sense?  (note: I'm currently trying different
 permutations to isolate the error)
 
 Any tips or help would be greatly appreciated!  I'm so close. :)
 
 Thanks,
 Seth
 
 
 
 
 FATAL_E (2002-04-24) 09:42.28:545   [core.xslt-processor]
 (/notif/test.xml) tcpConnection--0/TraxErrorHandler: Error in
 TraxTransformer: javax.xml.transform.TransformerException:
 java.lang.NullPointerException
 javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: java.lang.NullPointerException
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemApplyTemplates.transformSelectedNodes(ElemApplyTemplates.java:434)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.templates.ElemApplyTemplates.execute(ElemApplyTemplates.java:226)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.executeChildTemplates(TransformerImpl.java(Compiled
 Code))
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.applyTemplateToNode(TransformerImpl.java:2069)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1171)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerHandlerImpl.endDocument(TransformerHandlerImpl.java:436)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.xml.AbstractXMLPipe.endDocument(AbstractXMLPipe.java:91)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.ResultTreeHandler.endDocument(ResultTreeHandler.java(Compiled
 Code))
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1182)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerHandlerImpl.endDocument(TransformerHandlerImpl.java:436)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.xml.AbstractXMLPipe.endDocument(AbstractXMLPipe.java:91)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.ResultTreeHandler.endDocument(ResultTreeHandler.java(Compiled
 Code))
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1182)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerHandlerImpl.endDocument(TransformerHandlerImpl.java:436)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.xml.AbstractXMLPipe.endDocument(AbstractXMLPipe.java:91)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.ResultTreeHandler.endDocument(ResultTreeHandler.java:190)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1182)
 at
 org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196)
 at
 
org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerHandlerImpl.endDocument(TransformerHandlerImpl.java:436)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.xml.AbstractXMLPipe.endDocument(AbstractXMLPipe.java:91)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.xml.AbstractXMLPipe.endDocument(AbstractXMLPipe.java:91)
 at
 
org.apache.cocoon.components.sax.XMLByteStreamInterpreter.parse(XMLByteStreamInterpreter.java:112)
 at
 
org.apache.cocoon.components.sax.XMLByteStreamInterpreter.deserialize(XMLByteStreamInterpreter.java:102)
 at
 
org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingEventPipeline.process(CachingEventPipeline.java:220)
 at
 
org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingStreamPipeline.process(CachingStreamPipeline.java:399)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.matchN10233(sitemap_xmap.java:1656)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(sitemap_xmap.java:1505)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(sitemap_xmap.java:1451)
 at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Handler.process(Handler.java:222)
 at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Manager.invoke(Manager.java:179)
 at
 org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.SitemapManager.process(SitemapManager.java:154)
 at 

Re: Does HSSF Serializer work?

2002-04-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver

Oh so I misunderstood.  It is working for you?  Thats quite pleasing. 
 I'd like to see more folks with non-roman alphabets involved in the 
project.  Its difficult to test/implement things for languages that you 
can't even tell if the right characters are used.

-Andy

Sozonnik Andrew wrote:

Look to my yesterday post. There I attach simple xml+xsl but with
national chars.
It works with Cocoon 2.0.2 JDK 1.3.1 Resin 2.0.5 Excel XP Win XP

I think you have to try to rollback to JDK 1.3 and/or replace servlet
container.
I faced with some troubles on Resin and moved to Orion.

With respect,
Sozonnik Andrew.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Does HSSF Serializer work?


Hello everyone,

Before I go delving into everything, I wanted to ask if people were
successful with using the HSSF Serializer.  Currently it generates XLS
files that crash Excel.

I am using the latest (as in tonight) nightly build of Cocoon, Resin
2.0.2 and JDK 1.4 on Linux 2.4.17.  The gnumeric XML file was created by
Gnumeric 1.04.  I recently saw a patch for HSSF serializer that said it
now works with 1.04+.  So far, it doesn't seem to make a difference.

Any hints or prior experience?

I'll keep looking into it.

Thanks very much for your help,
Seth




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