Re: [css-d] navigate site

2013-07-16 Thread Bill Braun

My reference point is a galaxy s3, jellybean 1.4.2.

I like the general layout of the home page. Flows well and is pleasing 
to the eye. The menu icon gets attention immediately. Works well on s3 
and on desktop. Font size fits both s3 and desktop. Very effective.


I'd like to see the drop down menu icon div width confined to the size 
of the icon plus margins/padding (on both s3 and desktop the upper nav 
bar stretches the entire width, not a big deal on desktop but takes up a 
lot of real estate on s3). I think the icon can be smaller, reducing the 
height of the nav bar. With Russel's name to the right of the menu icon, 
his credentials can remain where they are (full width), and the content 
can move up toward the top of the physical screen.


Bill

On 7/15/2013 11:13 PM, David Laakso wrote:

Seeking constructive comments and suggestions on the method used to
navigate a responsive [desktop, tablet, and mobile] site.
html
http://ccstudi.com/russ/
css
http://ccstudi.com/russ/r/r.css

Best,
David Laakso



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[css-d] Use of brackets

2011-06-02 Thread Bill Braun

I am working with a style sheet that makes wide use of this syntax:

TABLE.BODY{
 border-style: solid;
 border-color: LOGOCOLOR;
 background-color: BGCOLOR;
}

I have done a good deal of searching on CSS sites without finding 
anything that addresses this. I assume that the brackets refer to a 
previously defined value, but I thus far I don't have any idea where to 
look.


Any suggestions?

Bill Braun


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Re: [css-d] Use of brackets

2011-06-02 Thread Bill Braun

Follow-on...

Pulled the trigger just a minute too soon. It was defined in another 
file using the str_replace() function. At least I assume this is where 
it is defined. It looks like this:


$text=str_replace(LOGOCOLOR,#.$logocolor,$text);

I have not yet tracked down the other variables.

Bill Braun


On 6/2/2011 5:57 PM, Bill Braun wrote:

I am working with a style sheet that makes wide use of this syntax:

TABLE.BODY{
 border-style: solid;
 border-color: LOGOCOLOR;
 background-color: BGCOLOR;
}

I have done a good deal of searching on CSS sites without finding 
anything that addresses this. I assume that the brackets refer to a 
previously defined value, but I thus far I don't have any idea where 
to look.


Any suggestions?

Bill Braun



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Re: [css-d] Use of brackets

2011-06-02 Thread Bill Braun

Apologies for the initial top post. Running too fast.

Michael, many thanks for the explanation, it has served to open some 
insights about the difference between generated and server code, which I 
had not understood clearly.


Bill

On 6/2/2011 6:55 PM, Michael Geary wrote:

It's an easy mistake to make.

Remember that CSS is a browser-side language, just like HTML and 
JavaScript. The code you're looking at on your server is not CSS code 
- it's a template (or PHP code, or whatever) that your server uses to 
*generate* HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.


The browser doesn't see any of that server code. It doesn't know about 
PHP or those substitution variables or anything like that. All it sees 
is the final output.


So if you're troubleshooting CSS, look at the generated CSS, not the 
server code. Use View Source or other browser tools so that you see 
what the browser is seeing. Then if something is amiss, you can refer 
back to the server template or code that generated your CSS.


-Mike

(top-posted for consistency with the existing thread)

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Bill Braun bbr...@hlthsys.com 
mailto:bbr...@hlthsys.com wrote:


Follow-on...

Pulled the trigger just a minute too soon. It was defined in
another file using the str_replace() function. At least I assume
this is where it is defined. It looks like this:

$text=str_replace(LOGOCOLOR,#.$logocolor,$text);

I have not yet tracked down the other variables.

Bill Braun



On 6/2/2011 5:57 PM, Bill Braun wrote:

I am working with a style sheet that makes wide use of this
syntax:

TABLE.BODY{
 border-style: solid;
 border-color: LOGOCOLOR;
 background-color: BGCOLOR;
}

I have done a good deal of searching on CSS sites without
finding anything that addresses this. I assume that the
brackets refer to a previously defined value, but I thus far I
don't have any idea where to look.

Any suggestions?

Bill Braun


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Re: [css-d] Drop-down navigation without javascript

2011-01-27 Thread Bill Braun

On 1/27/2011 5:27 PM, David Laakso wrote:

On 1/27/11 5:16 PM, Jess Hardy wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am currently looking for a solution for creating a single level 
drop-down that can be activated by the keyboard but does not use the 
standard suckerfish approach.


I had come across one previously but can not find the article.

This should be possible using the :focus and/or :active functions, or 
am I wrong?



I think TJK's drop-down may meet your requirement...
Script-free modern browsers / keyboard-friendly
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard_friendly_dropdown_menu/default.asp
Best,
   ~d


I cannot find it, but I thought that Gabriel Romanato offered up such a 
navigation bar not too long ago.


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[css-d] Span Style Inside Div with PHP Code

2010-12-03 Thread Bill Braun

Good Afternoon,

Everything I've research tells me this ought to be valid, but the span 
style seems to have no effect.


div class=registercolright
span style=padding-top:20px;
?php
// some code that writes an unordered list
?
/span
/div !-- close registercolright --

I am using this approach (rather than just change the registercolright 
class) because each page where that class is used requires some 
adjustment and I'd prefer, if possible, not to create a large number of 
similar classes.


Apologies for not supplying a URL; I am in the middle of development and 
there are a host of PHP related issues that I'd rather were not set 
loose by testing the page.


Thank you,

Bill

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Re: [css-d] Span Style Inside Div with PHP Code

2010-12-03 Thread Bill Braun

Many thanks, Thierry. Will settle for additional classes.

Bill


On 12/3/2010 12:41 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:

Everything I've research tells me this ought to be valid, but thespan
style  seems to have no effect.

div class=registercolright
span style=padding-top:20px;
?php
  // some code that writes an unordered list
  ?
/span
/div  !-- close registercolright --


vertical padding will not create vertical space on inline elements


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Re: [css-d] Span Style Inside Div with PHP Code

2010-12-03 Thread Bill Braun

On 12/3/2010 12:51 PM, Climis, Tim wrote:

I am using this approach (rather than just change the registercolright
class) because each page where that class is used requires some
adjustment and I'd prefer, if possible, not to create a large number of
similar classes.

Then don't  Apply multiple classes instead.

div class=registercolright lotsOfSpace

div class=registercolright littleSpace

div class=registercolright oodlesOSpace

The point here is that your registercolright class stays the same and gets 
called everywhere, and then you apply a second class to the div that applies 
varying amounts of whitespace.

You do have lots of very similar classes, (they're all margin-top: something), 
but they're also very small.


Thanks, Tim. Yes, you are quire right about the proliferation of 
classes, and I did not know about applying a second class. This has been 
the result of learn as I go and it seemed easier (at the time) to 
simply copy a class and make a few adjustment.


Your point is well taken and I'll use it in the future.

Thank you,

Bill

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Re: [css-d] Span Style Inside Div with PHP Code

2010-12-03 Thread Bill Braun

On 12/3/2010 12:51 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:

Hi Bill,


Many thanks, Thierry. Will settle for additional classes.

Actually, you should not have a list/list items in that span. So rather than
adding a class you'd better replace that span with a div (which will take
the padding).

As a side note, do you need that additional wrapper? Can't you style 
registercolright  with some padding-top?


Hi Thierry,

Tim's comments apply here, I think. I use registercolright on multiple 
pages, but the padding requirements of each page vary a little based on 
the content that is being written by the PHP code. In some cases I want 
the ul to write near the natural top of the div 
class=registercolright and on other pages to write farther down from the 
natural top.


Bill
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[css-d] Stumped on font style

2010-08-24 Thread Bill Braun
I am adapting a Word Press style to integrate a blog into my web site. I 
have just about everything except the top navigation font style.


This is the reference style:

http://basicbusinesssim.com/

This is the blog page I am trying to match:

http://www.basicbusinesssim.com/bbsimblog/

Note that the horizontal letter spacing in the top navigation in the 
reference style is narrower, and the horizontal letter spacing in the 
top navigation on the blog page is wider.


I've concluded that I am simply missing the obvious, but I cannot spot it.

Any pointers?

Best regards,

Bill B


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Re: [css-d] Stumped on font style

2010-08-24 Thread Bill Braun



David Laakso wrote:

Bill Braun wrote:
I am adapting a Word Press style to integrate a blog into my web 
site. I have just about everything except the top navigation font style.


This is the reference style:
http://basicbusinesssim.com/
This is the blog page I am trying to match:
http://www.basicbusinesssim.com/bbsimblog/
Note that the horizontal letter spacing in the top navigation in the 
reference style is narrower, and the horizontal letter spacing in the 
top navigation on the blog page is wider.


I've concluded that I am simply missing the obvious, but I cannot 
spot it.







They receive a different font-family.



I'm thoroughly embarrassed to say that I checked the font-family styles 
- but not extensively enough. Thank you, David, and to Patricia also.


Bill B

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Re: [css-d] Absolute Positioning for all page containers okay?

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Braun


Anne McKinsey wrote:
 Greetings,

 I'm setting up numerous web pages with a jquery photo gallery that  
 needs AP for its main images. Is it okay to set up every container on  
 the page with AP or are there potential problems with doing so? The  
 pages look okay on various browsers and no errors on W3C validator,  
 but I can't help but think I'm doing something horribly wrong.

 Here is a page:
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio-knit- 
 process.html
 http://www.amckwebandprint.com/macdonald/portfolio/portfolio.css

 Your advice is much appreciated,

 A. McKinsey
   

The trade off is between precision design and the wide variety of 
preferences users have in how they configure their browsers. What looks 
great to you based on the screen size, screen resolution, and browser 
settings you used during design and coding may look unsightly to people 
who have different monitors and browser preferences.

I use absolute positioning myself. No one so far has complained, but I 
suspect that the easier response from people who find your site (or 
mine) unsightly is to simply leave. I am actively considering removing 
absolute positioning in the next site redesign.

Bill B
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Re: [css-d] styling text inside a div

2010-07-12 Thread Bill Braun
Andy B. wrote:
 I have some questions about creating styles for 3 lines of text that are in
 a div that is 298px wide and 75px tall.

 1. For each line of text, what container would you use? For an example, p,
 div or span?
 2. I need to create the styles, but don't quite know where to start.
 Line 1: The text Eternity Records presents should:
 - Be horozontally centered in the div containing it.
 - Be black in color.
 - Be on a line all by itself.
 - be significantlly larger than the rest of the text on the page.
 - have it's font-family be sans serif.
 Line 2: The text In Him should:
 - Be the color #60.
 - be the same font as line 1.
 - be horozontally centered in the div below line 1
 - Be on a line all by itself.
 - be 25% smaller than line 1.
 Line3: The text For in Him we move and live and have our being... (Acts
 17:28) should:
 - Be #60 in color.
 - Be the same font as line 1 and 2.
 - Be horozontally centered in the div below line 2
 - Be on a line all by itself.
 - Be the same font size as the text on the rest of the page.

 How would I make these styles?
   
For a very rudimentary explanations of different approaches to styling 
see http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_howto.asp.

My response is germane to using an external style sheet. I would create 
one  p selector for properties that are common to all three (if in 
fact there are common properties). I would create three classes, one for 
each line described above.

p {
add properties here common to all lines;
}

.plineone {
add properties unique to line one here;
}

.plinetwo {
add properties unique to line two here;
}

.plinethree {
add properties unique to line three here;
}

Use p class=[insert class name her]/p for the content for each 
line. All in all:

div

p class=.plineoneBlah blah blah line one./p

p class=.plinetwoBlah blah blah line two./p

p class=.plinethreeBlah blah blah line three./p

/div

The div itself can had an ID or a class, as befits your overall design.

Bill B

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Re: [css-d] help needed

2010-06-09 Thread Bill Braun
TriState Advantage, Kris Jacobson wrote:
 I have been trying to improve my CSS. Several times I have downloaded layouts 
 from layout Gala to jumpstart my web pages but then I have to take time to go 
 through the layout and identify the div's and change them accordingly. 
 So this time I tried to create my own CSS stylesheet. I am trying to get a 
 centered page. I have a div around the page with 800px size and auto margins 
 but it isn't centered.
 I did validate the css and html just to double check and they came up clean.
 I also went back to my layout gala templates and compared CSS but that didn't 
 tell me anything either. So I have to be missing some attribute.
 Can you tell me what I am missing in centering this page?
 This page is just in the beginnings so I don't have a lot of content yet.
 http://www.tristateadvantage.com/woolynpurses/index.html

 http://www.tristateadvantage.com/woolynpurses/woolynstyles.css

 Thank you for any help you give me. This list has been a great help in trying 
 to comprehend CSS and I still have long way to go.
 Kris J
   

In what browser is the page not centering? FF 3.6.3 seems to render it 
properly, including changing the size of the browser window.

Bill B

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Re: [css-d] re-need help

2010-06-09 Thread Bill Braun
TriState Advantage, Kris Jacobson wrote:
 Message: 18
 TriState Advantage, Kris Jacobson wrote:
   
 I have been trying to improve my CSS. Several times I have downloaded 
 layouts from layout Gala to jumpstart my web pages but then I have to take 
 time to go through the layout and identify the div's and change them 
 accordingly. 
 So this time I tried to create my own CSS stylesheet. I am trying to get a 
 centered page. I have a div around the page with 800px size and auto margins 
 but it isn't centered.
 I did validate the css and html just to double check and they came up clean.
 I also went back to my layout gala templates and compared CSS but that 
 didn't tell me anything either. So I have to be missing some attribute.
 Can you tell me what I am missing in centering this page?
 This page is just in the beginnings so I don't have a lot of content yet.
 http://www.tristateadvantage.com/woolynpurses/index.html

 http://www.tristateadvantage.com/woolynpurses/woolynstyles.css

 Thank you for any help you give me. This list has been a great help in 
 trying to comprehend CSS and I still have long way to go.
 Kris J
   
 

 In what browser is the page not centering? FF 3.6.3 seems to render it 
 properly, including changing the size of the browser window.

 Bill B

 I am using IE8. I also checked IE6 with the same result.
 I did not check Firefox as the layout gala templet I am trying to emulate 
 worked in IE8. Is there a fix for IE that I am missing?
 Kris J
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This is a roundabout, and may not get you where you want to go.

Are you perchance using Firefox? If so, there is a marvelous add-on, Web 
Developer 1.1.8, that has a very nice CSS feature. When you are viewing 
a web page, you can view style information for a particular element by 
clicking on it. The corresponding CSS code is displayed at the bottom.

Using this with the template that does work may lead you to the code 
that will make your edited template likewise work.

Bill B

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Re: [css-d] Firefox wont align content in a table properly -- SAFARI issue

2010-06-02 Thread Bill Braun
Matthew wrote:
 Is this the how dare you make so many HTML/CSS violations and still 
 seek our knowledge?!?!11? missive?
 If so, sorry for wasting your time. If not, please help me understand why my 
 site doesn't work in Safari. Your message does nothing to help! Thanks!

 The eternal CSS n00b,
 Matthew
   

It may or may not be, depending on your interpretation.

Inclusive of your feelings on the subject, validating your site it is 
excellent advice. Seeking knowledge is just fine, but rejecting part of 
that knowledge (validating your site first) and expecting people to sort 
through an unvalidated site to help you fix your problem is off course.

You are coming across as cherry picking the knowledge you think you want 
and then getting testy when people challenge you on that.

Expecting you to validate your site (HTML and CSS) as a precursor to 
offering other help is a very reasonable request. Take it, you will like 
the results.

Bill B

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Re: [css-d] Top Menus and Positioning Bookmarks

2010-05-13 Thread Bill Braun


Dixie Dean wrote:
 Hi everyone

 I have a mobile device version of a web based product that has a div
 which appears across the top of the page with a menu in it.  Currently,
 if the user clicks on a hyperlink in a page which goes to a bookmark in
 that or another page, the bookmark by default appears at the top of the
 page, which will, of course, be hidden under the menu.  In fact the menu
 hides the first two lines of any page but only when it is scrolled
 upwards.  The page is normally displayed as starting immediately below
 the menu.

 Does anyone have any thoughts as to how the top of the page might be
 shifted down by the depth of the div area?

 Dixie Dean
   

Can you provide a URL?

If I understand what you describe, try placing something like this at 
the top of the page.

pnbsp;/p

You may, based on circumstances, want to place that in its own div:

div
pnbsp;/p
/div

This is obviously an HTML solution, not a CSS one. It may be enough to 
accomplish what you want.

 From a CSS point of view, you can consider the position property value.

.topspacer {
position: absolute;
top: Npx;
}

div class=topspacer
stuff/stuff
/div

where N equals the number that will achieve the spacing you want.

Bill B

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Re: [css-d] Drop downs behind content

2010-04-30 Thread Bill Braun


Shanna Cramer wrote:
 On some versions of Win7/EI8 the drop down menu falls behind the content. I
 have two (probably three) websites this is happening on. I have raised the
 z-index to 9 and it still happens. This is something that I can¹t see.
 The Win7/IE8 PC I have access to does not show this issue. Customers are
 telling me about it.

 The websites I have gotten complaints on are:
 http://titanoutletstore.com/  - menu falls behind the video
 http://www.valleyseniorservices.org/  - menu falls behind the content

 Is this something I can fix? How?
   

FF 3.5.9
XP, SP3

I can duplicate what you describe for titanoutletstore but not for 
valleyseniorservices. Related but different...on vallyseniorservices the 
menu for Sargent is chopped off on the right side by the body container.

Bill B


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Re: [css-d] doctype

2010-04-02 Thread Bill Braun
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 As a side note, one advantage of XHTML over HTML is that XHTML allows
 authors to use an ID on html (which can be handy).
   

That's another mystery to me. Could you unpack a few details?

Thank you,

Bill B


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Re: [css-d] doctype

2010-04-01 Thread Bill Braun
I have struggled for the longest time to understand the obvious. For 
some reason the differences between HTML 4.01 and XHTML were completely 
lost on me.

And now? Eureka, the dawn finally breaks. Thanks to Chris, Norman, 
Thierry, MB, and Philip. I don't know that you said anything terribly 
different that what I've read before, but it was laid out in a real 
clear manner.

And thanks to Chris for the initial post.

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Re: [css-d] Unwanted horizontal scroll in IE 7/6

2010-04-01 Thread Bill Braun


Tom Livingston wrote:
 List,

 Can anyone see where the horizontal scrollbar is coming from in IE 6
 and 7 at this address? I can't find it and i'm going nuts...

 http://www.mlinc.com/products/zpache/

 Thanks!
   
I was only able to duplicate this in IE Tester, simulating IE7. I have 
IE6 installed that I use for testing; I was not able to duplicate the 
horizontal scroll bar.

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Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Bill Braun

MB wrote:
 Bill Braun said:
   
 Setting aside the moral implications, having made a transition from a 
 site built completely around tables to one based on div, the latter, 
 in my experience and opinion, takes much better advantage of CSS. I have 
 been able to do everything using div as I did using table, in a much 
 more flexible manner, and, again in my opinion, with a slight edge in 
 favor of design aesthetics.
 

 Based on divs? Hello? What about based on structural semantic markup
 and CSS-layout techniques?

 You guys - Bill, Claude - sound like you have contracted divitis* in
 your migration to CSS-layout techniques. Better find a cure.
   

Your interpretation is a bit on the literal side, but I am grateful for 
your kind words nevertheless.

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Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Bill Braun


Ed Seedhouse wrote:
 And I close with a recommendation to read the links provided by Bill.
   
Credit goes to MB for the links.

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Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-30 Thread Bill Braun

MB wrote:
 Bill Braun said:
   
 Your interpretation is a bit on the literal side, but I am grateful for 
 your kind words nevertheless.
 

 My apologies. I forgot the smiley. Digital communication can be
 difficult when writing on the run.
   

I've impaled myself on that hook a time or two...

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Re: [css-d] New to css

2010-03-29 Thread Bill Braun


Lineberger, Scott wrote:
 Thanks, Tim, that did the trick and put me on the right track.  Now, if I 
 could only decide is tables are really all that evil!

 Thanks,
 Scott

   

Setting aside the moral implications, having made a transition from a 
site built completely around tables to one based on div, the latter, 
in my experience and opinion, takes much better advantage of CSS. I have 
been able to do everything using div as I did using table, in a much 
more flexible manner, and, again in my opinion, with a slight edge in 
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Re: [css-d] fix border on some list items?

2010-03-25 Thread Bill Braun

Rory Bernstein wrote:
 Hello,

 http://dev.bossyfrog.com/

 I have a blue, horizontal nav bar on my site, the URL is above. You will see 
 that there are white borders that separate the items on the nav bar. They are 
 coded as an unordered list. The rule for the border is included in this style 
 info below:

 .nav li {
 border-right:1px solid #FF;
 color:#FF;
 display:inline;
 font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif;
 font-size:1em;
 margin:0;
 padding:0 10px;
 }

 I want the borders to be centered vertically, in line with the text-images. 
 How can I move those borders up so that they line up correctly?
   

Try using the pipe character | rather than styling the border to 
separate menu items, see if that makes a difference. You have two 
validation errors related to onMouseOver and onMouseOut. Correct those, 
see if they are contributing factors.

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Re: [css-d] fix border on some list items?

2010-03-25 Thread Bill Braun
Rory Bernstein wrote:
 hi Bill,

 Yes, I saw those validation errors for the mouseovers. I don't know 
 how to correct those... any suggestions?

 I like your suggestion about using the pipe character instead of 
 border. I will play with that. Thanks!


This might help.

http://www.webdevelopersnotes.com/tutorials/javascript/changing_images_on_mouseover_mouseout_javascript.php3

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Re: [css-d] fix border on some list items?

2010-03-25 Thread Bill Braun


Rory Bernstein wrote:
 Thanks so much, Kata. I will try this!

 I am getting 2 of each emails from the list. Is this happening to others as 
 well?

 Rory
   

If people Reply-All the list and the OP receive a response.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Braun
CSS validation is pointing to a style sheet that cannot be found. Also, 
there are some HTML validation errors. About half refer to how the 
phrase b  b is being treated, but there are some div related errors.

Bill B

Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/
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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Braun
Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I have been working on this yesterday and today And I simply can't figure it 
 out.
 It is a wordpress site. And it just is giving me some very weird giant white 
 box display problems win IE6 and 7.

  http://test.grantstinn.com/
 __
   
I'll tread very lightly here, Sarah. There seems to be a lot of styles 
that are either redundant or conflicting. I did not examine them with 
any rigor, it is a first impression. Also, it looks like you are linked 
to five different external style sheets. Are they all necessary? There 
may be conflicts between/among them that would be hard to track down.

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Re: [css-d] IE problem

2010-03-19 Thread Bill Braun

Atkinson, Sarah wrote:
 I'll tread very lightly here, Sarah. There seems to be a lot of styles
 that are either redundant or conflicting. I did not examine them with
 any rigor, it is a first impression. Also, it looks like you are linked
 to five different external style sheets. Are they all necessary? There
 may be conflicts between/among them that would be hard to track down.

 Bill B

 Those have to do with Wordpress Plugins... Some of the plugins auto load 
 their own stylesheets.
 Wordpress is a decent CMS but it does have issues with massive amounts of 
 loaded files and it makes a mess of CSS files and JS files.
   


Can you remove the link rel=stylesheet... references from your HTML 
documents?

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Re: [css-d] Image text box

2010-03-15 Thread Bill Braun

Brian M. Curran wrote:
 Brian M. Curran wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 I've never done this before... I made a bordered text box around an 
 image using a paragraph. It can be found here:

 http://www.draftingservices.com/building_survey.html

 Would this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?

 Sincerely,
 Brian

   
 David Laakso wrote:
 Then I guess all I can suggest is that you do it differently and change 
 the css/markup following the above provided tutorial?
 

 Why would I do that, if what I've done works. ...This basically harkens back 
 to my original question.
   

I don't mean this as nit-picking...your original question was Would 
this be considered acceptable CSS or make-shift?, not whether it works 
or not. That is the question to which David is responding.

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Re: [css-d] Background color

2010-02-23 Thread Bill Braun
Tom Livingston wrote:
 List,

 What is the reasons for using:

 background: #fff;



 instead of:

 background-color: #fff;



 I've seen this lately, and wonder why the preference for the first
 one. I've only used 'background' as shorthand for something like:

 background: #fff url(images/image.png) left top no-repeat;

 Which is better or more correct?
   
Background is for HTML markup and is reserved for images, 
background-color is for CSS.

HTML:

html
body background=your_image.jpg
h1Hello world!/h1
/body
/html

To control background color in HTML use bgcolor:

html
body bgcolor=#fff
h1Hello world!/h1
/body
/html

See http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_body.asp for a summary of HTML 
attributes for the body tag.


CSS:

body {
background-color:#fff;
}

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Re: [css-d] Background color

2010-02-23 Thread Bill Braun

Tom Livingston wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Bill Braun bbr...@hlthsys.com wrote:
   
 Tom Livingston wrote:
 
 List,

 What is the reasons for using:

 background: #fff;



 instead of:

 background-color: #fff;



 I've seen this lately, and wonder why the preference for the first
 one. I've only used 'background' as shorthand for something like:

 background: #fff url(images/image.png) left top no-repeat;

 Which is better or more correct?

   
 Background is for HTML markup and is reserved for images,
 background-color is for CSS.

 


 So in an article I was reading, this code example was shown when
 discussing a stylesheet:

 body {
  color:#000;
  background:#fff;
 }

 By your assessment, this is wrong. I find it hard to believe the
 author would not use correct syntax as he is fairly well known in the
 front-end/CSS world. Alas, he is human, but you know what I mean...
   

No, it is OK. In CSS you can use background and list a number of 
property values consecutively. See: 
http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_background.asp

Or you can break out background into separate properties:

background-color,
background-image,
background-position,
background-repeat


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Re: [css-d] Background color

2010-02-23 Thread Bill Braun


Tom Livingston wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM, David Laakso
 da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
   
 In CSS this

 background: #fff;

 is more lean and mean than this

 background-color: #fff;

 Both are valid CSS.

 ~d


 

 Thanks David. That says it all.
   

I see I misunderstood the initial question. David is quite right, and is 
the better answer.

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Re: [css-d] Background color

2010-02-23 Thread Bill Braun


Tom Livingston wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:38 AM, David Laakso
 da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote:
   
 In CSS this

 background: #fff;

 is more lean and mean than this

 background-color: #fff;

 Both are valid CSS.

 ~d
 

 Thanks David. That says it all.
   

I see I misunderstood the initial question. David is quite right, and is 
the better answer.

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Re: [css-d] IE6 doesn't see styles [solved]

2010-01-22 Thread Bill Braun


Peter Bradley wrote:
 Many thanks to everybody who replied and helped with this.

 I've re-written the page, using floats instead of absolute positioning, 
 and ems instead of percentages:

 http://www.peredur.net/swanwick

 It now doesn't need any conditional styles.  It's not going to win any 
 design awards, but it'll make a good demonstration, I think.

 Cheers, and thanks again,
   

Congrats, Peter. BTW, those writers sure look happy.

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Re: [css-d] Fraction bar

2010-01-21 Thread Bill Braun
Troy Harshman wrote:
 Although it may not be the best application for lists, I think using
 my method isn't too bad and it is attractive.
Try this, see if it works.

math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
  mfrac
mn2/mn
mn3/mn
  /mfrac
/math

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Re: [css-d] Fraction bar

2010-01-20 Thread Bill Braun
Eduardo Varela wrote:
 Hi, first time I write here. 
 I am Eduardo, from Buenos Aires.
 I have a site at
 
 http://notasdematematicaelemental.7p.com/matel_ejemplos.html#PotenciaDefinicion

   
Eduardo, Norton Internet Security is reporting 47 virus threats coming 
from this site. Are you aware of that?

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Re: [css-d] 4 part question about lining up 'boxes' of information

2010-01-15 Thread Bill Braun

Lisa Frost wrote:
 4. My biggest problem i am having with css, is that i know exactly how i
 want something to look, like in this case i just want a series of boxes
 lined up next and under each other and centered but then i have no idea how
 to do it and even less of an idea as to what to google for to point me in
 the right direction. I don't want to be emailing you all for every little
 thing that stumps me. Any tips on what to search for on the web for basic
 layout techniques such as this?
   

Lisa, some general resources that might be helpful (they helped me):

CSS Tutorial
http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp

CSS Reference by Categories of Properties
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference.asp

CSS Reference - Alphabetical
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_reference_atoz.asp

The Box Model
http://www.w3schools.com/CSS/css_boxmodel.asp


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Re: [css-d] Help with Horizontal List in IE

2010-01-13 Thread Bill Braun
Denise McLaurin wrote:
 Bill Braun wrote:
   
 Wild hunch - try separating the words Exam Master Online with 
 non-breakable spaces (nbsp;).

 Bill B
   
 

 Thanks Bill.  I dismissed that initially since this involves a CMS, but 
 decided to give it a try since the output is created by my own module 
 ... it worked!  Many thanks.
   

Thanks for letting us know.

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Re: [css-d] Screen shot or list an entire site

2010-01-07 Thread Bill Braun

 On 31.12.2009 12:44, Rob freeman wrote:
   
 Hi everyone,

 I am planning a new website, but first I would like to take a snapshot of
 the old site including all the pages as png/gifs if not graphics a list,
 like a site map
 So I can a keep a record of them.. does anyone know any software which can
 screen
 shot a whole site, like follow the links and snapshot each page
 automatically?
 
Adobe Acrobat can capture an entire site. Contact me privately if you 
want me to do that. Acrobat is a bit expensive just for one project.

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Re: [css-d] Screen shot or list an entire site

2010-01-07 Thread Bill Braun

 On 31.12.2009 12:44, Rob freeman wrote:
   
 Hi everyone,

 I am planning a new website, but first I would like to take a snapshot of
 the old site including all the pages as png/gifs if not graphics a list,
 like a site map
 So I can a keep a record of them.. does anyone know any software which can
 screen
 shot a whole site, like follow the links and snapshot each page
 automatically?
 

Another thought...

If the site is not large and you have the patience, you can do it with 
the software you already have. Point your browser to the page you want, 
press the Print Screen key, open paint.exe, Edit  Paste, then save 
the file. Depending on the size of the site, this could be laborious, 
but the price is right.

Regards,

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Re: [css-d] strict vs. transitional doctype and rendering differences

2010-01-04 Thread Bill Braun
For starters...http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_doctype.asp.

Ingo Chao wrote:
 Hi

 can someone point me to a reference about rendering differences
 between strict and transitional doctype?

 or: what would you expect?


 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
   http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
 html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en
 head
 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
 charset=utf-8;charset=utf-8 /

 titlestrict vs. transitional/title

 style type=text/css
   span {
   background: red;
   border: 1px solid black;
   display: inline-block;
   font-size: 12px;
   padding: 0 2px;
   }
   em {
   background: yellow;
   display: inline-block;
   font-style:normal;
   height: 24px;
   line-height:48px;
   }
 /style
 /head
 body
   divspanemText/em/span/div
 /body
 /html

 In Strict mode, the red span encloses the text - in transitional mode,
 it dosn't.
 Why?

 thanks,
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Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread Bill Braun
Hi David,

I particularly like the visual impact of the site. It is both engaging 
and minimalist at the same time. The upper part of each page is 
consistent. I have mixed feelings about large images (the lights) 
pushing content lower on the page. The images of the lights are 
attractive, but become tiring.

The About page includes (or will include) some examples of your work; I 
suggest they move to the Portfolio, and leave About straight-forward.

The Portfolio section loses the consistency of the upper part of the 
page. I had to check to see where I was, and pause for a minute and 
wonder what changed. I think I know what you want to accomplish with the 
smaller and larger images of sites you've designed, but I find it odd to 
view only part of a page. I suggest presenting the entire image.

The Resources part of the site, which I think is wonderful, also seems 
(to me) to visually fall apart. There is a mix of pages that are 
completely different (I realize this is a WIP) and links that just take 
me away from your site (sometimes inevitable). Most suggestions I would 
offer are arguably their own set of problems (open in separate window or 
tab, open in a frame, etc.).

Contact page likewise changes layout and is distracting.

Kudos for making address and phone accessible from every page. Not sure 
you need to repeat the bouquet image from above.

The expanding/contracting feature (on the Journal page, fro example) is 
counter intuitive for me. Personally I am comfortable with longer pages; 
they do not detract from attractiveness.

On the technical side, the Home and About links both point to /index.php.

I did not mean to dwell on the negative, David. There is a comfort to 
the design and the colors. The more time I spent on the site, the more I 
was attracted to its positive features.

Warm regards,

Bill B



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 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

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Re: [css-d] :: makeready ::

2009-12-22 Thread Bill Braun
When the Portfolio page is selected, and all the examples push out to 
the left, the content is nearly perfectly centered.

Bill B


Theresa Newman wrote:
 it seems to lean to the right (more white space on left than right)

 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:01 PM, David Laakso
 da...@chelseacreekstudio.comwrote:

   
 I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions on this site.
 http://chelseacreekstudio.com/

 Best,
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Re: [css-d] Div Open/Close [was Strange display in Safari]

2009-12-21 Thread Bill Braun

David Laakso wrote:
 I will try (even though your question has nothing whatsoever to do 
 with CSS).
Thank you. I realize that div is HTML markup code. I thought that the 
properties of the div - CSS - had a bearing on how they were displayed.

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Re: [css-d] Div Open/Close [was Strange display in Safari]

2009-12-21 Thread Bill Braun
David Laakso wrote:
 I will try (even though your question has nothing whatsoever to do 
 with CSS).
I just reread your post and now get why my question was OT. Apologies.

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[css-d] Div Open/Close [was Strange display in Safari]

2009-12-19 Thread Bill Braun
David Laakso wrote:
 It is often a painfully slow, laborious, and frustrating process to get 
 the divisions to open and close in their correct order.  The number of 
 open divisions must equal the number that close; and, they must do so in 
 the correct order. No need to take a coil of rope to the woods. Coffee 
 helps.
   
David, can you comment on div openings and closings a bit more, along 
the lines of general principles and practices? . New to CSS, and I 
suspect that I may be struggling with this.

Thank you,

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Re: [css-d] Strange display in Safari

2009-12-17 Thread Bill Braun
I think, but am not certain, that Column can be read as Character. So, 
it sound like it is drawing your attention to the fourth character, near 
the beginning of the line.

Bill


Andzia wrote:
 Hello,
 I reduced the number of errors to 9:
 http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Fklikerlab.pl%2F

 and now I have some questions. First, what is a column in this report?
 Like:  *Line 170, Column 4*. I found somewhere that it refers to the
 database, is that correct? Or does it refer to layout?

   

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Re: [css-d] Weird display in Safari

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Braun

Chris Blake wrote:
 Thanks David, I've been ignoring validation a bit too much recently.
   
I recently started using Amaya from W3 for markup 
(http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html). While it has its quirks and 
idiosyncrasies, it only gives the green light when the code (HTML and 
CSS) is valid.

Very handy.

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Re: [css-d] apply float:left and links stop working

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Braun
I'm not certain, but try this. Your HTML code refers to div 
class=box_clear_float_left. In your CSS you named the class 
div.box_clear_float_left {}. Remove the div from the CSS code so 
that it reads,

.box_clear_float_left {
float: left;
line-height: 1.2em;
font-style: italic;
color: #00;
border-color: #00;
border-width: 1px;
border-style: solid;
padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
margin: 0px 3px 20px 0px;
font-family: Californian FB, Times New Roman, serif;
font-size: 12pt;
font-weight: normal;
width: 256px;
}

Regards,

Bill B



Scott Brasted wrote:
 Greetings,

 http://www.stpeterswestfield.org/index.php
 http://www.stpeterswestfield.org/css/st_peters.css
 Both the page and the css validate.

 Bottom of the page, two clear (white background) div boxes side by side 
 on the left side of page (one title says TO OUR VISITORS and the other 
 Title is HOMEBOUND OR JUST ...). Float works fine except that when divs 
 are floated, the links in the right hand of the two boxes do not work. 
 Unfloat and voila', they work like a charm. Here is css for the 2 
 classes directly affecting the divs.

   div.box_clear_float_left {
   float: left;
   line-height: 1.2em;
   font-style: italic;
   color: #00;
   border-color: #00;
   border-width: 1px;
   border-style: solid;
   padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
   margin: 0px 3px 20px 0px;
   font-family: Californian FB, Times New Roman, serif;
   font-size: 12pt;
   font-weight: normal;
   width: 256px;
   }

   .sbar_link a:link {
   text-decoration: none;
   color: #4b0082;
   font-weight: bold;
   }

   .sbar_link a:visited {
   text-decoration: none;
   color: #800080;
   font-weight: bold;
   }

   .sbar_link a:hover {
   text-decoration: underline;
   color: #4b0082;
   border-bottom: none;
   font-size: 12pt;
   }

 Here is the html for the div boxes:
 div class=box_clear_float_left
   div class=sbar_link
   h3TO OUR VISITORS/h3
   pWe welcome you to our worship and to our 
 parish life. Please 
 know that whoever you are and wherever you find yourself on your journey 
 in faith there is a place for you here at St. Peter’s Episcopal Church./p

   pAll baptized persons are invited to receive the 
 sacrament of Holy 
 Communion. If you prefer not to receive communion, we invite you to come 
 to the altar rail, cross your arms on your chest and receive the 
 blessing of God. If you are unfamiliar with the Episcopal worship 
 service, ask someone for help, or merely relax and enjoy the beauty and 
 power of the service by observing what goes on. Come again . . . soon 
 and often./p

   pPlease join us in Bailey Hall immediately following 
 the service 
 for food, fellowship and fun./p
   /div !--end link--
 /div !-- end box/float --

 div class=box_clear_float_left
   div class=sbar_link
   h3HOMEBOUND OR JUST UNABLE TO ATTEND SERVICE?/h3
   pIf you were not able to join us this Sunday for 
 Church, you can 
 watch the service on Time Warner Cable - Westfield Channel 21 on 
 Tuesdays at 1:00 p.m. (thank you Tom). You can a 
 ref=../weekly_services/service.php title=Read This Week's Bulletin 
 read this week's service bulletin here/a or use it to follow along 
 with the service on Public Access. If you, or someone you know, is 
 unable to come to church and would like a clergy visit, please let the
 a href=mailto:ad...@stpeterswestfield.org; title=E-Mail your Request 
 to the Church Office church office know/a and the office will 
 schedule a clergy visit and bring communion if you desire./p
   /div !--end link--
 /div !-- end box/float --

 Anyone know why this might be the case?

 Puzzled,
   


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[css-d] Limit of content in an element

2009-11-23 Thread Bill Braun
I am new to CSS.

I am using an element as follows:

#spdisplay {
   width: 550px;
   float: right;
   display:block;
   margin-top: 10px;
}

#spdisplay .box {
   width: 545px;
   background: #F6F9FB;
   border: 1px solid #E1E1E1;
   padding:10px 10px 15px 10px;
   float: right;
}

#spdisplay .box a {
   margin: 10px 0 10px 0;
   color: #56677C;
   font-size: 0.625em;
}

#spdisplay .box p {
   margin: 5px 0 10px 0;
   line-height: 15px;
   font-size: 0.875em;
}

#spdisplay .box ul {
   padding: 0 0 7px 20px;
   margin:10px 0 10px 0;
}

#spdisplay .box li {
   margin-top:5px;
}

The element #spdisplay is contained in:

#content {
   width: 100%;
   margin-top:10px;
}

which itself is contained in:

#wrap {
   margin-left: auto;
   margin-right: auto;
   width: 730px;
}

I inherited this so I cannot explain the design.

In HTML it appears as:

div id=spdisplay

   div class=box

   a name=philosophy/a
   h2ITEM 1/h2

   pblah, blah, blah./p

   pblah, blah, blah./p

   h2ITEM 2/h2

   pblah, blah, blah./p

   pblah, blah, blah./p

   /div!-- end div box --

/div!-- end div spdisplay --

This works flawlessly until I exceed a certain amount of content in div 
class=box. It then causes the entire page to shift to the left about 
10px or so. I've ruled out bad markup by simply taking content that 
displays well and copying it to create more content. Same result.

I tested the same thing with minimal CSS:

#wrap {
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 250px;
display: block;
}

#content {
width: 100%;
margin-top:0px;
display: block;
}

#left {
width: 100px;
float:left;
display: block;
}

#right {
width: 100px;
float: right;
display: block;
}

Same result.

I'm baffled. Any suggestions on where to look?

Regards and thank you,

Bill B










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