[CTRL] Air Strikes -- India vs. Pakistan
-Caveat Lector- India Launches Kashmir Airstrikes .c The Associated Press NEW DELHI, India (AP) -- Indian Air force jets launched airstrikes Wednesday in the disputed mountains of Kashmir, where the army has been exchanging mortar and heavy artillery fire with Pakistani forces, a domestic news agency reported. It was not immediately clear which side of the poorly-defined border was under attack. India and Pakistan have fought two of their three wars over Kashmir, which is divided between them by a U.N-monitored cease-fire line. More than 15,000 people have been killed in fighting between rebels and security forces in Kashmir in the last 10 years. The use of Indian air force jets was the most serious escalation of the conflict since both countries tested nuclear weapons in May 1998, prompting fears of a nuclear arms race in the subcontinent. India says some 600 Pakistani infiltrators -- it won't say if they are soldiers or guerrillas -- have seized positions in the mountains at Kargil and Drass regions of Kashmir. Both nations claim the entire province. Earlier Tuesday, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee said India will take all steps necessary -- including airstrikes -- to flush out the infiltrators. Vajpayee's top aide, Brijesh Mishra, told a television interviewer recently that infiltrators had seized areas along the disputed border, hoping to eventually cut off a key road. Pakistan's armed forces were put on ``high alert'' Tuesday following a meeting of senior government and military officials, said the independent daily newspaper, The News, on Wednesday. Quoting an unidentified participant at Tuesday's meeting, The News said Pakistan was particularly concerned about air incursions by Indian jet fighters. Pakistan's Army Chief Pervaz Musharraf currently is on a visit to China, but before leaving he warned India against provoking Pakistan and against air incursions across the disputed border. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Censoring the Cox Report
-Caveat Lector- Censoring Sought for China Report By PETE YOST .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- Claiming a need for national secrecy, law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the Clinton administration initially sought to censor almost all of the first seven pages of a congressional report on Chinese espionage. Republicans on Capitol Hill blamed the proposal to obliterate pages of material on the Clinton White House. They circulated page after blacked-out page and a cover sheet titled: ``What the White House would let America know.'' The Republicans said a draft of the report's overview was sent two months ago to the White House, which sent it back with the blackouts. National Security Council spokesman David Leavy said the criticism was unfair. ``We worked in a bipartisan fashion with the committee on all declassification,'' he said. Among the few points that remained in the draft after the proposed deletions: ''A counterintelligence and security plan subsequently devised'' by the Energy Department ``in response to'' a presidential directive signed by Clinton ``is a step toward establishing sound counterintelligence practices.'' ''The Select Committee is concerned that the appropriate committees of the Congress were not adequately briefed on the extent of'' China's ``espionage program.'' The White House's role is ``to facilitate communication between'' the Cox committee, which released the report Tuesday, and the intelligence services, said the NSC's Leavy. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies are responsible for deciding what to reveal, he said. ``The White House's view was always that the appropriate law enforcement and intelligence agencies should work with the committee to properly identify the areas that need to be protected because of national security interests,'' said Leavy. ``It was a process that was completed in record time, performed to provide the public with the most information possible. Any attempts to score political points over the declassification process undermines the bipartisan spirit with which the issue is being dealt with by the administration and the Congress.'' ``It is unnecessary partisanship on an issue that both parties should agree it is in the national interest to work together to address,'' added Leavy. If the censored draft of the report had been allowed to stand, there would have been no language stating that China ``has stolen design information on the United States' most advanced thermonuclear weapons.'' Among the other language that would have been excised from the report: ''The stolen information includes classified information on seven U.S. thermonuclear warheads, including every currently deployed thermonuclear warhead in the U.S. ballistic missile arsenal.'' ''The stolen information also includes classified design information for an enhanced radiation weapon commonly known as the `neutron bomb' which neither the United States, nor any other nation, has yet deployed.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-25 18:03:15 EDT, Ric Carter writes: So, you're saying that all citizens of Russia and China, even if they're entrepeneurs, merchants, capitalists engaged in [hopefully profitable] business, are really Communists, dedicated to collective ownership of the means of production? Really? Communists being dedicated to collective ownership of the means of production is a dictionary definition. Communists are dedicated to taking over the world, making everyone go with their idea of government (ever read the Communist Manifesto) whether they like it or not. This of course, is the Elites idea, not the common working people's idea. One of my wife's coworkers, a COBOL programmer on insurance systems, is a Ukranian Jew, formerly resident in Moscow, who came with her family to the US in 1988. Her husband owns and operates a dry-cleaning business here now. When the USSR collapsed, their citizenship became Russian, and they keep those passports. But by your criteria, even though they're credit-card-carrying Capitalists, they're really Communists and should be deported, is that right? J'z... Yvgenia is a good programmer; if she's deported, your premiums may jump. Aside from the fact that COBOL is an ancient language and the insurance company you're speaking of is way behind the times ... having a credit card makes one a Capitalist? This would be a special case, they are not working with sensitive top secret nuclear devices, super computers, or high tech satellite communications. Also being Ukranian, they may not have the mindset of being hard-line Communists and are not scientists or government workers. Even if they were spys I don't think we have much to fear from a COBOL programmer or a dry cleaner. American citizens who are Communists should not be expelled from the country because they have the right to their own political beliefs. Naturalized as well as native-born citizens? I don't see any reason why not. _ _ _ _ _ Were the Rosenbergs convicted of ESPIONAGE or TREASON? The Rosenbergs were convicted of espionage. Treason is a betrayal of trust ... trust that a President, Congress, military people, and scientists working for the Defense department will not kill us, or set us up to be killed or have our government taken away by force. To me, Clinton, Bush, the bureau that let these people steal these secrets etc. were betraying a trust. BTW Jefferson Davis was indicted for treason, but not convicted. "Tokyo Rose" and "Axis Sally" were both convicted of treason, and imprisoned. Treason trials have been rare in the US since Aaron Burr, 1805. Interesting, but because treason has been a rare occurance does not mean that we should not prosecute traitors. IIRC a state of war usually must exist for treason can be committed - or a state of international hysteria, like The Cold War. So if the media whip up a popular frenzy, and/or Congress declares war on China, THEN charges of treason can be brought, against... somebody? The Constitution implies, but does not restrict treason to only wartime situations, it also mentions enemies, which I think would apply here. Clinton just survived an impeachment attempt - will Congress go after him for treason this year? As long as the economy looks to be thriving, will there be any popular support for treason trials? Ya sure... I believe he was impeached, just not removed from office? That impeachment was fixed from the beginning with Starr having ties to Mrs. Clinton in business dealings. It also showed that this was merely a dog and pony show for the uninformed and dumbed-down masses to make them think we still have a two party system. Notice how they put a spin (lies) on the whole affair ... treating it like it was just about sex, infidelity and being extremely stupid. Nothing was brought up by the prosecution about the sale of super computers, taking of bribes from Red China to finance his campaign, nothing about Whitewater, nothing about Filegate, nothing about Ron Brown, Vince Foster or a myriad of other real issues ... just sex. A pure bullshit trial. As far as the President being responsible for the economy ... more poppycock, many Americans are too stupid to understand that the Fed controls the money supply, not the President and the media just keeps promoting this lie. Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not
Re: [CTRL] Masters of DeCeit - Book by Dan Meador
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-05-26 03:35:59 EDT, you write: From: "Timothy I. McCrory" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: DanMeador [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of my favorite childhood stories was, "You can tell a Dutchman a story on Monday, and he will laugh in church on Monday." I happen to be Scotch, Irish, English, Cherokee and a few other things, with a little German in the background somewhere, but it took two or three days for me to figure the story out. Then I laughed. I was only nine years old when I heard the story, but it seems that I haven't improved much. Things don't always soak in immediately, so I don't always do what I should do when I should do it. As often as not, the oversight is to my detriment. Well, here is one of several things I've forgotten recently: Dale Pond has published my book, Masters of DeCeit, and is currently distributing it: http://www.svpvril.com/dmvid.html The basic text can be downloaded from the Kay County Patriots web site free -- it is my most comprehensive recent composition, Institutionalized Tyranny: The Character Color of Authority. http://www.kskc.net/public/tmccrory/ The hard copy book has advantages. For one, it has a summary chapter at the end that sharpens perspective so far as the overall Cooperative Federalism scheme is concerned. Additionally, Dale has laid text out, added graphics, and indexed the entire work -- Masters of DeCeit has something in excess of 260 pages. He set the page layout program up so text runs on 2/3 of the 8 1/2 x 11 pages, then used the outside third of each page for key conceptual statements to help with reader orientation. The arrangement leaves plenty of room for notes and comments, which is always important for me as I make liberal use of highlighters and column notes when I read material of this nature. Thanks to Dale and several other people who provided editing assistance, Masters of DeCeit is one of the more comprehensive efforts to address a broad range of subjects relating to Federal law, courts, etc., as they adversely affect the nation. Editing assistance by Dale and others made the darned thing about half way readable -- the reader doesn't have to be a legal scholar. The work is also somewhat unique in that I put five essential elements of authority in place to provide a solid platform before addressing individual subjects such as the character of Federal courts, the Federal law enforcement community, Federal tax and drug laws, etc. An 1825 decision written by former Chief Justice John Marshall (Wayman vs. Southard) significantly influenced the approach I took to writing the work. Marshall was confronted with two questions: (1) What does the Constitution authorize Congress to do, relative to Federal courts, and (2) what has Congress done? In a manner of speaking, I attempted to move from constructive to objective proofs. In other words, I focused on the second question: "What has Congress done?" That was the motive behind establishing the five key authorities, beginning with the Constitution. As I subsequently addressed each subject, I used these five key authorities to test conclusions based on the question, "What has Congress done?" Consequently, conclusions are consistent. The effort provides a reasonably good working model of Cooperative Federalism on the Federal side. The original offering is being reproduced by a professional photocopy service. It's nicely bound with a plastic cover sheet over the front cover. It's my understanding that investors have pledged funds for general publication, but Dale wants feedback with editing suggestions and the like before going to press with final copy. This is a somewhat unique situation as people who have Internet access can download the basic text without charge, so there can be an objective value test prior to purchase. Dan Meador What's everyone looking at? Check out the Top40 most requested stocks! Plus quotes, charts, news, portfolios, mutual funds, and discussion. All free, fast, and easy. Visit: http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/63 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/ice-bucket http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Student arrested for writing essay about bomb
-Caveat Lector- Published on May 24, 1999 Student arrested, threatened with expulsion for essay about bomb By Alice Warchol And Matthew Bowers VIRGINIAN-PILOT VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. -- A high school junior is fighting expulsion for writing about a bomb on a Standards of Learning essay test in March. Chris Bullock, 16, said he was merely following instructions to be creative when he penned a dark tale of a student presenting a nuclear bomb as a gift to an unnamed school. But test readers in Richmond, Va., raised concerns when they saw Bullock's test. They alerted Virginia Beach school officials. Bullock was arrested May 14 and charged with threatening to bomb a school -- two months after writing the essay. He was immediately released. "I think it is utter nonsense and hysteria to charge someone for answering an essay question using their imagination," said Moody E. "Sonny" Stallings Jr., an attorney representing Bullock. "This is pre-Columbine," Stallings said, referring to the April shooting in Colorado that left 15 people dead. "This would have never been brought to anyone's attention except for Columbine. How far back are we going to go?" Tallwood High School officials said they could not comment on the essay because they haven't seen it. A rash of school bomb threats has led fire officials to arrest 22 students since the April shooting. "Yes, we are taking a strict stand," said school spokesman Joe Lowenthal. He said that Bullock, a track athlete, has a disciplinary hearing scheduled for Thursday. Bullock said he hopes to be allowed back into school. He also wants to compete in a regional meet on Friday. "This is going to affect him getting into college, getting a scholarship," said Stallings, a former state senator. A fan of authors Stephen King and Dean Koontz, Bullock said he appreciates stories that mix fantasy with reality. For his essay, he was asked to describe a gift he would give the school. Bullock wrote about a fictional student giving a speech. The student describes his gift in hints to the school audience. In the last paragraph of the essay, the student reveals that he has a nuclear bomb strapped to his chest. Bullock said the reader is left wondering whether the bomb goes off. "If they're going to charge me with a felony, then they need to charge the movie directors and authors who mix reality with imagination," he said. Bullock's mother, Beverly Bullock, is a teacher in Portsmouth, Va. She said she believes fire authorities overreacted. "As a teacher myself, we have to instill in the children to be creative, as well as to have the mechanics together," she said. "He's always been very creative. He's always loved to write." Cameron M. Harris, assistant state superintendent for assessment and reporting, said test readers report anything questionable to the local division testing director. "If a reader encounters a paper that would indicate what we call an alerting situation -- if there something in the paper indicative of a student doing harm to themselves or some type of abuse -- if that occurs, we have a procedure where they go directly to the school division with this information," Harris said. Bullock is at least the second student in the greater Hampton Roads area to be charged based on answers to the writing portion of the Standards of Learning test. A 17-year-old Gloucester High School student was arrested this month for threatening to bomb a school. "It's what I call 'subzero tolerance,"' said Kent Willis, executive director of the ACLU of Virginia. "'Subzero tolerance' is where punishment is given for behavior not even violating any rules." Willis said that the American Civil Liberties Union, which defends free speech and other Constitutional rights, has fielded dozens of telephone calls and e-mail messages from across Virginia in the month since the shooting at Columbine High School near Littleton, Colo. The inquiries are coming from students suspended from schools for their words, writings or dress, such as trenchcoats and black makeup. Schools are given greater latitude than the rest of society in controlling students' behavior when it comes to protecting safety, Willis said. But a "genuine threat to school safety" should be shown, he said. Willis said there has been an overreaction from schools since Littleton. "These are the musings of young students," Willis said. "They do not always use appropriate language. It is the schools' obligation to differentiate between that which is a serious threat and that which is merely inappropriate language." Taking the "easy route" and kicking out all students who use certain words without determining whether true threats exist erodes students' confidence in government and authority, Willis said. "It may do more harm than good," he said. "It's happening all over the state. It's hard to say at this point whether or not it's an
[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist: Black Out Blues
-Caveat Lector- Sasa Rakezic P.F. 163 26000 Pancevo Yugoslavia (Serbia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 25th 1999 Hello ! Past few days, troubles with the black outs were the things that most of the people here were talking about. After the use of special , brand new bombs with carbon filaments, NATO has been day after day destroying the basic infrastructure (with "old fashioned" bombs) used in the production and distribution of power in Serbia - power plants, transformer stations, etc. As many of you probably never experienced major black outs, maybe it's good to describe how does it look like, actually... First of all, most of the people do not have a water during the black outs, as the pumps can not distribute the water. And even when the aggregates are being used, the people living in the upper floors of the apartment buildings (like Gordana and I do) are left without water. Also, freezer food supplies are being spoiled, and have to be thrown in the dump, in the midst of the crisis. Many people in Belgrade are donating the food which is not edible any more ( for the humans, at least) to the local zoo. Not to mention the problem of hospitals, bakeries, factories, or plain families with new born babies, being cut off from power . Can you imagine what is it alike when somebody who's living in a tall building DIES during the black outs? (Yes, it happens). Spending many hours in dark, every night, while the aircrafts are bombing your town, it's a kind of creepy experience. They don't even have to switch out Serbia from the internet, as the internet connections in this situation are becoming more and more disrupted. ( By the way, if you E-mailed me and the message bounced, please be patient, and send it again !!!) The funny thing is that if you leave almost entire country in the dark, it simply does not sound as awful, as killing people with the bombs, so that destruction of the power network will never cause the big sensation in the Western media, even though it is a measure which hurts millions of people. " The covers of all the magazines here have pictures of the "Star Wars" movie -- no mentions of Yugoslavia", wrote Chris Ware, in his most recent letter." I wish I could say "the world's gone nuts" but I think that it's always been this way; it's just an endless variation on a theme and we're simply artists who are silly enough to think that things should be different" ... See you Sasa DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [A-M] Cox Report
AUDREY'S MISSILES A newsletter dedicated to the peaceful reform of the United States government. NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON It was calm morning in June of 1953 when the executioner at Sing Sing prison in New York State pulled the lever that released the lethal jolt of electricity that killed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Convicted of treason because they had passed information concerning the Manhattan Project (first atomic bomb), they paid with their lives. Prosecutors argued that they were responsible for the 50,000 American deaths in the Korean War and that their crime was worse than murder. It was the first execution for treason in this country since Mary Surrat was hanged for complicity in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Will we have another trial and execution? The big news this week was the release of the Cox report (http://www.washingtontimes.com.), a seven-hundred page detailed analysis of just how China has stolen, and in the some cases was given, top U.S. secrets. Portions of the report have been omitted from the version the public will see because the White House bargained with Cox to delete some parts. The reason cited is national security, and some security may be involved, but the main White House effort was to try and salvage the Clinton presidency. Clinton is clinging to the office in spite of the fact that he is a self-confessed liar; despite overwhelming evidence that he is a criminal, and despite the bi-partisan Cox report that accuses him of treason. (He signed the export documents that gave away some of the sensitive information. He removed license requirements for others.) Let's ask just a few questions: Why didn't Congress impeach Clinton when the criminal evidence was overwhelming? Why is blame for Chinese espionage being put on Janet Reno rather than squarely on Clinton where it belongs? Why did the San Jose Mercury News retract the series of articles, "Dark Alliance", (which established a link between the CIA and the cartels) when it was true? Why is there a news blackout on stories relating to large scale drug importations? Why is there a news blackout on some news unfavorable to the current government? Perhaps this testimony from a defendant on trial in Federal Court in Los Angeles has a bearing on the answers to our many questions: "A 28-year-old stockbroker from Mexico City testified Wednesday that she was tricked into joining a scheme to launder money for the Cali drug cartel and feared she would be killed if she backed out. When I heard they were Cali cartel, I knew I had no way out. I had to do what they said,' Katy Kissel Belfer told jurors." (Los Angeles Times, May 13, 1999 by David Rosenzweig, Times Staff Writer). We have heard this story before from both Monica Levinsky and Linda Tripp. The Clinton scandal stories contain numerous mentions of threats, intimidations, and even murders. What will happen now? Probably very little right away, but long term effects could be catastrophic. Some of the minor players will be indicted, leaving the kingpin in office. Illegal drugs will continue to pour into this country. If there is no successful effort to remove him it looks as if Clinton will contrive some emergency, attempt to seize additional powers and cancel the coming elections. He has no intention of leaving office when his term expires. Our best hope of avoiding either dictatorship or armed insurrection now lies with Judge Starr. Have the thugs been successful in intimidating him also? Full text of the Cox report http://www.washingtontimes.com or try http://www.tullahoma.net/coxreport/index.htm on some servers and http://www.reformparty.org/cox/ READ THIS NEWSLETTER AND THEN GIVE IT TO A FRIEND. No copyright on the content of AUDREY'S MISSILES is claimed since it is our hope that the information in this newsletter will be copied and distributed widely. Topics covered are those which are not adequately treated on TV or in the press. If you live in the 209 calling area end a request to 209 847-7588 for a free fax subscription. E-mail is free anywhere. Paid subscriptions are not accepted. Comments may be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]/99 (Treason) == [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an moderated maillist about government reform. To join or leave send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: -- (un)subscribe audreys-missiles Visit http://www.uwsa.com Support UWSA.COM at http://www.uwsa.com/UWSACOMintro.html
[CTRL] Harry S Truman and the origins of the national security state.
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.cohums.ohio-state.edu/history/people/hogan.htm A HREF="http://www.cohums.ohio-state.edu/history/people/hogan.htm"Hogan/A - Ought to be interesting. Also this book should be also; Informal Entente: The Private Structure of Cooperation in Anglo-American Economic Diplomacy, 1918-1928 (1977) Anybody read? Om K - Michael J. Hogan; B.A., University of Northern Iowa, 1965; M.A., 1967; Ph.D., 1974, University of Iowa. Professor Hogan is a specialist in the history of recent American diplomacy and chair of the Department of History at The Ohio State University. He is also the editor of Diplomatic History, an international journal for specialists in diplomacy and foreign affairs. He is the author of Informal Entente: The Private Structure of Cooperation in Anglo-American Economic Diplomacy, 1918-1928 (1977) and The Marshall Plan: America, Britain, and the Reconstruction of Western Europe, 1947-1952 (1987). He is the recipient of the Stuart L. Bernath Lecture and Book Prizes of the Society for Historians of American Foreign Relations, the Quincy Wright Book Prize of the International Studies Association, and the George Louis Beer Prize of the American Historical Association. His last book was an edited volume on Hiroshima in History and Memory (1996). Professor Hogan is currently finishing a book on Harry S Truman and the origins of the national security state. His e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] He can also be reached at (614) 292-2674. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MYSTERY MEN: GEORGE LOUIS BEER
-Caveat Lector- from: a friend - MYSTERY MEN: GEORGE LOUIS BEER George Louis Beer (d. 1920)--Historian, Columbia University. Beer was the historian of the British colonial system before 1765.(1) The chief expert on colonial questions on Colonel House's Inquiry, which was studying plans for the peace settlements. Regional Specialist for Colonial Problems. U.S. Round Table Member from about 1912 (the first member who was not a British subject).(2) When the British Round Table Group, about 1911, began to study the causes of the American Revolution, they wrote to Beer, and thus began a close and sympathetic relationship. The Group's attention was first attracted to Beer by a series of Anglophile studies on the British Empire in the eighteenth century which he published in the period after 1893. A Germanophobe as well as an Anglophile, he intended by writing, if we are to believe The Round Table, to counteract the falsehoods about British Colonial policy to be found in the manuals used in American primary schools. He wrote the reports on the United States in The Round Table for many years, and his influence was clearly evident in Curtis's The Commonwealth of Nations. Beer served from 1915-18 as American correspondent for The Round Table. He gave a hint of the existence of the Milner Group in an article which he wrote for the Political Science Quarterly of June 1915 on Milner. Berr wrote: He stands forth as the intellectual leader of the most progressive school of imperial thought throughout the Empire. Beer was one of the chief supporters of American intervention in the war against Germany in the period 1914-1917. In 1916, Lionel Curtis, a traveling delegate for The Round Table, met Beer in New York and proposed setting up an American group to participate in Round Table discussions. Despite his own hope of English-speaking union, Beer turned down the idea on the grounds that Americans had no business belonging to a movement to federate the British Empire. The secret-society used Beer to establish a mandate system for the territories taken from enemy powers as a result of the First World War. In The Anglo-American Establishment, Carroll Quigley wrote that the mandate was first suggested by George Louis Beer in a report submitted to the United States Government on January 1, 1918, and by Lionel Curtis in an article called Windows of Freedom in The Round Table for December 1918. Beer was the American expert on colonial questions at the Peace Conference in Paris. With Lord Eustace Percy, he drew up the plan for the History of the Peace Conference which was carried out by Harold Temperley. The British Round Table group served at the conference as advisers to Prime Minister David Lloyd George. [The real behind- the-scene experts at the Paris conference included M. (Georges) Mandel (real name Jereboam Rothschild) (France), Phillip Sassoon (1888-1939) (England) and Bernard Baruch (U.S.).] Beer was named head of the Mandate Department of the League of Nations as soon as it was established. Beer was also one of the originators of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London and its American branch, The Council on Foreign Relations. Thomas W. Lamont, Isaiah Bowman, George Louis Beer and Whitney H. Shepardson approached Robert Cecil about planning a strategy for future joint ventures. They arranged for a party for fifty at the Hotel Majestic in Paris on May 30. 1919. At Paris the Royal Institute for International Affairs was created after WWI. The rather loosely organized group in the U.S. included George Louis Beer, Walter Lippman, Frank Aydetlotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Green, Erwin D. Canham (Christian Science Monitor) and others.(3) Beer's Round Table membership was revealed in the obituary published in The Round Table for September 1920. The American Historical Association offers the GEORGE LOUIS BEER PRIZE in recognition of outstanding historical writing in European international history since 1895. This $1,000 prize was established in accordance with the terms of a bequest by Beer to be awarded annually for the best work on any phase of European international history since the year 1895 that is submitted by a scholar who is a United States citizen. The phrase European international history since the year 1895 may be understood to mean any study of international history since the year 1895 with a significant European dimension. The American Historical Association has given the George Louis Beer Prize for European international history since 1895.(4) William Cohen is currently the chair of the Beer prize.(5) Bernadotte E. Schmitt (RS 1905) (b. May 19, 1886) wrote The Coming of the War: 1914 published in 1930. It won the George Louis Beer Prize in 1930 and the Pulitzer in 1931.(6) Schmitt was with the University of Chicago (1925-1946). (7) Christine White, Associate Professor of European History (who received a Ph.D. at Cambridge, 1988) won the 1993 Beer Prize
[CTRL] Cox vs China Internet
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:526470"Cox vs China Internet/A - Subject: Cox vs China Internet From: Ralph McGehee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, May 26, 1999 7:11 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --BA33493C9DB74E5FFC6E60C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --BA33493C9DB74E5FFC6E60C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Xerox1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Xerox1" COX vs China Internet Below is a brief quote from an item in the Los Angeles Times and Denver Post 16/17 May 1999 re Chinese Espionage. (The full report contains the observation that Internet demands a complete re-evaluation of intelligence procedures -- an observation probably lost on our intelligence services.) Ralph McGehee http://come.to/CIABASE - "China doesn't need to use spies anymore to obtain precise details and sketches of America's most modern thermonuclear weapons, ballistic missiles and reentry vehicles. Anyone armed with an Internet account or a library card can get some of the same military secrets that China is accused of stealing from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico." That might explain why the Chinese have tried to access a Maryland-based online service, called USNI Military Database, that offers estimates of such classified data as the explosive yield of U.S. nuclear warheads, the accuracy of the missiles that carry them and the names of the Navy warships and the locations of U.S. Air Force strategic wings responsible for the weapons. China has failed to (pay the $2,500 for a year's USNI subscription) while asking for free samples. USNI info comes from combing military journals, conference reports, arms control treaties, congressional testimony and other open sources. --BA33493C9DB74E5FFC6E60C5-- - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: ATF investigative techniques called unfair
Title: ATF investigative techniques called unfair BardVisit me at:The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Governmenthttp://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htmFederal Government defined:a benefit/subsidy protection racket! -Original Message-From: Mark A. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 5:30 AMTo: MarkSubject: ATF investigative techniques called unfair ATF investigative techniques called unfair Some lawyers challenge parolee project June 29, 1998 BY TIM DORANFree Press Staff Writer Some criminal defense lawyers say a federal sting operation that solicits ex-convicts for drugs and guns is aimed only at black parolees. Federal officials deny the accusation, and provide statistics. The lawyers say that the ex-convicts are offered rides, money, trips, jobs and drinks by an agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and this means the agent initiates a crime. "For the federal government to be using taxpayer money to actively encourage parolees to return to crime rather than to train or educate these individuals is shocking," wrote Jonathan Epstein of the Federal Defender's Office in Detroit. The ATF and U.S. Attorney Saul Green strongly disagree, citing statistics and judicial rulings on the issue. The bureau does not target blacks or any other groups, said Philip Horbert, assistant special agent in charge of the ATF in Detroit. Agents pursue parolees based on tips they have about them, Horbert said. Agents may offer a fee to the parolee who gets drugs or guns from a dealer, he said. The lawyers making the accusations "have cast a cloud over the agent as well as the agency by making these allegations," Horbert said. "We follow the law here." The sting operation is known as the parolee project. It was slightly modified several years ago to avoid any appearance of a problem. The U.S. attorney says he required all cases to be funneled to one prosecutor to ensure consistent prosecution. The program has taken dangerous criminals off the streets, and the courts have upheld the undercover investigative techniques, said Green and the ATF. Courts have upheld the undercover investigations, but some judges raised concerns. And a recent federal appeals court decision -- believed to be the first of its kind in the nation -- could mean less prison time for anyone who is convicted of selling crack cocaine and who has evidence of improper government conduct. In March, a three-judge panel of the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati said U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds in Detroit could consider the government's investigative techniques and the sentencing disparity between crack and powder cocaine at sentencing. Some federal lawmakers have unsuccessfully argued that the disparity between sentences for crack and powder is unfair and racist. Someone charged with selling five grams of crack faces a mandatory minimum federal sentence of five years. Five hundred grams of powder cocaine warrant the same sentence. Lawyers have asked judges to give less than the mandatory sentence, and the 6th Circuit decision appears to be the first to allow a departure if it is coupled with another reason, said Peter Henning, Wayne State University law professor. "They are struggling for some way to say the crack guidelines are unfair," Henning said. "They're looking for some way to get around the crack-powder distinction." The appeals court did not decide the merits of Reginald Coleman's claim that he was unfairly singled out. And, in a dissenting opinion, one of the justices said the ruling would open a Pandora's box as others raise issues to get less prison time. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Detroit has asked the full appeals court to reconsider the case. Coleman of Detroit was charged with selling crack to the agent five times between December 1994 and August 1995. Defense lawyers began challenging
[CTRL] China Says U.S. Charges Are Just Tall Tales
-Caveat Lector- China Says U.S. Charges Are Just Tall Tales BEIJING, May 26, 1999 -- (Reuters) China's Communist Party newspaper said on Wednesday that U.S. charges that Beijing donated to American election campaigns was a tale tall enough for the "Arabian Nights". "To paint China as an evil demon, the United States has made up all kinds of stories from the Arabian Nights," the People's Daily said in a commentary. That was the same phrase Premier Zhu Rongji used in March to describe allegations that China had stolen U.S. nuclear weapons secrets. The newspaper did not address the spying charge central to a special Congressional report which has further damaged relations already strained by disputes over human rights and trade -- and the NATO bombing of Beijing's embassy in Belgrade. The People's Daily focused its scorn on a charge in a report by a select House panel headed by Representative Christopher Cox, a California Republican, that China donated to the Democratic campaign in 1996 to gain influence. It said there was no evidence to back up the allegation, which "makes one laugh his head off". The Cox report said a network of "princelings" -- sons and daughters of China's political elite -- exploited commercial and political connections to obtain new military technology for China and funneled campaign donations to the U.S. Two of the most notable "princelings", Liu Chaoying and Wang Jun, became directly involved in illegal activities in the United States, including the 1996 Democratic fund-raising scandal, the report said. A $300,000 donation funneled by Liu from Chinese military officials to Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung in 1996 was meant to help position them to acquire U.S. computer, missile and satellite technologies, the report said. Liu, the daughter of a retired senior military officer, funneled the donation to Chung from the chief of Chinese military intelligence, Ji Shengde, in August 1996. Chung testified to another House panel earlier this month that he eventually gave only $35,000 of the amount from Ji and Liu to the Democrats. Liu is also a vice president of the Hong Kong subsidiary of China Aerospace Corporation, the organization that manages China's missile and space industry. The People's Daily commentary argued that donating just $300,000 to a U.S. election which costs billions of dollars would be "too cheap". "If China believed the United States is a country where money could move the ghosts to do anything, it is unlikely that China will just give $300,000 no matter how poor it is," its said. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhu Bangzao dismissed the espionage allegations on Tuesday as "groundless" rumors spread by people "with ulterior motives" and a Cold War mentality that needed an enemy now that the Soviet Union was gone. The People's Daily also slammed the U.S. defense that it mistakenly bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade because outdated maps were used. "This is too disgraceful to the United States -- the wealthiest, militarily strongest, technologically top-notch and the most efficient country in the world," the commentary said. The May 7 bombing, which killed three Chinese journalists, incensed China and set off three days of government approved protests, mainly directed at the U.S. embassy in Beijing, which turned violent. For U.S. media and politicians to play up the allegations in the wake of the bombing make it "seem like China is the one bullying the United States", the commentary said. ((c) 1999 Reuters) © 1999 European Internet Network Inc. All rights reserved. Send comments to feedback. Report problems to webadmin. CONNECTIVITY PROVIDED BY ILLUMINATI ONLINE. http://www.insidechina.com/news.php3?id=70389text Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] Witness at Columbine coerced after interview
-Caveat Lector- It makes complete sense really. Create a problem and then provide a "solution" (taking the guns). When it's really not the guns at all that are the problem. NWO advances. Next move. Jamie -Original Message- From: Teo One Thousand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Witness at Columbine coerced after interview -Caveat Lector- From another list. Teo1000 When reading remember how the government treats eyewitness testimony, especially in the TWA800 affair, and apparently this one as well. ALL witnesses who see what we deem is what happened are okey-dokey, all witnesses who see something else ARE JUST PLAIN WRONG, or delusional, mistaken, a conspiracy theorist, etc. . . Gotta love that gubmint. . . WITNESS PRESSURED BY AUTHORITIES AFTER STATEMENTS PUBLISHED!! ©1999 John A. Quinn NewsHawk Inc All Rights Reserved. (NOTICE-PLEASE DO NOT PHONE THE WISHER FAMILY!) Seattle radio talk-show host Mike Webb (710AM/KIRO) and myself devoted over an hourto the many troubling inconsistencies, peculiarities, indications of coverup regarding the Columbine tragedy and possible reasons for such on his show of 5/20/99. Webb had talked with Wisher himself prior to my conversation--described below--with Chris's mother on 5/19/99. Of particular concern in what Mike Webb relayed on the air was the following statement: that Chris had told Webb during their talk that subsequent to the publication of my original interview with Chris on 5/7/99, he was questioned again by investigators, who found it desirable to "help" Chris "understand that it may have been ONLY HARRIS AND KLEBOLD" he witnessed, and that he could have been confused and disoriented by the situation! How INTERESTING investigators made such a pointed effort to rearrange, distort and otherwise tamper with Chris's recollections AFTER publication of the interview with him! It should be noted as well that Chris's own mother stated that a GREAT NUMBER of Columbine students are aware that a MANY other perpetrators were involved in the mayhem at the school. I can prove through phone records and my recordings that I have talked with occupants of the Wisher household on 6 different occasions. Two of these times I talked with Chris, the first time for abut 40 minutes. What Chris said is what he said. He's the witness, not me. On 5/19/99 I talked to Chris Wisher's mother. Although a bit upset that my Internet article has generated a lot of phone inquiries to their house, she did spend about 15 minutes talking. She told me MANY of the kids from Columbine saw other people with weapons. She also told me that some of these kids just can't and won't go back to school because some of the people who were shooting are indeed there, back in school. She confirmed every major point Chris told me. She told me that many, probably a HUNDRED or more, Columbine students witnessed other gunmen in the assault and that MANY of these will not go back to class because some of these assailants are back in school. Unlike myself, she feels that with so many eyewitnesses to other assailants there is no way the police would be able to pull off a coverup, regardless of the reasons for doing so (we didn't really get into that). I hope she's right. I myself am not so sure, based on the most recent statements from investigators. Mrs. Wisher also said she had personal knowledge that a female student was pressured into changing her testimony by Sheriff's Dep't. investigators. Unfortunately I was NOT aware at the time of our conversation that HER SON had been re-contacted by investigators and subjected to THE SAME TACTICS! I doubt if she was aware of this either. Why are the cops trying to get students to change what they're saying about what happened? She didn't have an answer to that, but I do. Because if you put together the fact that there undeniably WERE so many other people involved, plus things like how other perpetrators GET AWAY; and get AWAY WITH IT?!, you can only come up with one logical conclusion. That the at least SOME of the other people involved were NOT even students, but people connected to the covert (of COURSE!) government. ©1999 John A. Quinn NewsHawk Inc All Rights Reserved. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] klintoonalgorehalfbright hyprocisy [SinCity not credible!]
-Caveat Lector- == "We determined some time ago that it was not a good idea to link human rights and trade." --- Madeline Albright on US policy towards China U.S. House Marks Tiananmen Amid U.S.-China Tension WASHINGTON, May 26, 1999 -- (Reuters) With U.S.-China tensions at new heights, the House of Representatives on Tuesday voted overwhelmingly to commemorate the 10th anniversary of Beijing's bloody Tiananmen Square crackdown and condemn China's human rights abuses. On the same day that a congressional report accused Beijing of extensive espionage at U.S. nuclear weapons laboratories, the House approved a non-binding resolution seeking an official Chinese inquiry into the army's June 4, 1989 crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators in Tiananmen and a reevaluation of its official verdict in the case. "We call on the Chinese government to show respect for human rights," said Representative Frank Wolf, a Virginia Republican and co-sponsor of the resolution. "I am convinced the Chinese government cannot last much longer." The 418-0 vote came as the release of a lengthy report on China's alleged efforts to steal U.S. nuclear and technological secrets cast a pall over U.S.-China relations, already strained by the NATO bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade this month and the resulting anti-American protests in Beijing. Lawmakers said the incidents provided a perfect opportunity for Congress and the Clinton administration to reevaluate the U.S. relationship with Beijing, particularly with the annual debate on renewing China's trade status looming this summer. "We shall not rest until China becomes a free and open and democratic society," said California Representative Tom Lantos, a Democrat. "The Chinese people deserve no less." In Beijing, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman criticized the resolution on Tuesday and accused U.S. lawmakers of vilifying China and "wantonly distorting" facts about the Tiananmen crackdown. "By making irresponsible remarks on China's internal affairs, they have fully revealed their anti-China political face," spokesman Zhu Bangzao told reporters. Hundreds and possibly thousands of people were killed in 1989 when Chinese troops crushed a month-long series of demonstrations in Tiananmen for greater freedoms and attacking government corruption. The congressional resolution asks China to establish an investigating committee to look into the massacre and to order prosecutors to open formal investigations designed to bring those responsible to justice. It also calls on Beijing to release dissidents from prison, compensate the families of those killed in the crackdown and allow Chinese exiles to return home. Chinese officials in Beijing have refused to reassess the action, saying the decision to use military force against unarmed demonstrators was correct and the conclusion would never be changed. In recent weeks, dozens of dissidents known to be organizing activities to mark the anniversary of the 1989 crackdown have been arrested, drawing protests from pro-democracy groups in Hong Kong, the United States and around the world. "The human rights situation in China has not improved," said Representative Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat and a prime sponsor of the resolution, which she said was "not about economics, not about politics, but about remembering." ((c) 1999 Reuters) © 1999 European Internet Network Inc. All rights reserved. Send comments to feedback. Report problems to webadmin. CONNECTIVITY PROVIDED BY ILLUMINATI ONLINE. http://www.insidechina.com/news.php3?id=70386text Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] World Bank Approves Loans For China Worth $250 Million [crime pays!]
-Caveat Lector- World Bank Approves Loans For China Worth 250 Million Dollars WASHINGTON, May 26, 1999 -- (Agence France Presse) The World Bank on Tuesday approved loans worth 250 million dollars for China for water-related projects. One loan, worth 100 million dollars, will support efforts to improve the performance of irrigation systems in the Guanzhong Plain of Shananxi Province. A second loan for 150 million dollars will be used for a project to achieve sustainable development in the Loess Plateau by boosting farm income and output and improving the ecology of tributary watersheds of the Yellow River. ((c) 1999 Agence France Presse) http://invest.insidechina.com/business.php3?id=70408text Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Washington Times - Investigative
Title: The Washington Times - Investigative Published in Washington, D.C.www.washtimes.com Other Sections**Front Page**AutomotiveBusinessCommentaryCulture, etc.DaybookEditorialsEmbassy RowEntertainmentHelpHow to Contact UsInternationalInvestigativeLettersMedia LinksMetropolitanNationOpinionPhoto GalleryPoliticsReal EstateResourcesSportsSubscribeTechnologyWeather-Advertiser IndexAdvocacy Advt.ClassifiedsInt'l SupplementsMarketplaceSpecial Sections The Cox ReportOverviewPRC Acquisition of U.S. TechnologyPRC Theft of U.S. Nuclear Warhead Design InformationHigh Performance ComputersPRC Missile and Space ForcesSatellite Launches in the PRC: HughesAfterword: U.S. Companies' motivations to launch satellites in the PRCSatellite Launches in the PRC: LoralTechnical Aspects of Technology Transfer During the Loral Failure InvestigationLaunch Site Security in the PRCCommercial Space InsuranceU.S. Export Policy Toward the PRCManufacturing ProcessesAppendices Automotive | Business | Culture | Entertainment | International | Investigative Metropolitan | Nation | Opinion | Politics | Sports | Technology TOP OF THIS PAGE | FRONT PAGE | LETTERS | SUBSCRIBE Copyright © 1999 News World Communications, Inc.
Re: [CTRL] Witness at Columbine coerced after interview
-Caveat Lector- You are right Jamie...those that left the Neutron bomb secrets lying around were responsible, not the Neutron bomb - right? See the pscychological parallels between what they are doing to Americans right to bear arms.it is a bigger cover for what they themselves have done. If I had a gun, or a neutron bomb, would I let it lie around where Chinese spies or kid could get at it? No, that is, unless I wanted them toand that would make me, the guilty party. Who left all those computers lying around with all that murderous materialthe secret to neutron bombs...so what rae they doing, they are killing kids to put the problem at our door, and not their doorthorugh their vicious drug program these mild altering drugs, and the black trench coats are a symbol of sickness of Al Gore and Clinton... Think about it..when he speaketh a lie, it is his ownyou shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you sick (my revision of John 8) Colleen By the way Jamie...is is such a simple psychological truththey accuse us, of what they have done and caused themselves.prescription drugs killed not only our children, but try Craig Buttons for an example.and what happened to the 5 bombs he carried Had these kids and Buttons lived through the hell they created under their mentors, they would not have remembered the incident.just like Sirhan, just like Oswald just like Ray, who had books on self hypnosisbut the dead give=a=way, was the diaries DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Maggie and Mommy Choose Prez in 2000
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/25/1999 4:44:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mrs. Reagan, Thatcher Praise McCain WASHINGTON (AP) -- Two grande dames of the conservative movement, Nancy Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, are giving Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign a boost. In a note beginning ``My dear senator,'' the former British prime minister praised McCain's speeches and writings on the conflict in Kosovo. ``I wanted to write and tell you how much I admired and agreed with their contents,'' read the note released by McCain's GOP presidential campaign. The Arizona senator has criticized President Clinton for ruling out the use of ground troops in Yugoslavia. Though she has not endorsed McCain, Thatcher wrote, ``I very much hope that the wise and courageous leadership you are offering on this vital issue impresses others in Washington as much as it impresses me.'' Nancy Reagan also has not endorsed McCain, though she did ask that the senator accept an award Wednesday night on behalf of her husband. The American Conservative Union will honor Reagan as the conservative of the century. ``I am honored and very grateful to have been asked to accept an award for that most eloquent, visionary, and steadfast apostle of freedom, President Reagan, and to have been encouraged by his staunch ally, Lady Margaret Thatcher, in my defense in the Balkans of the ideals they so ably advanced throughout the world,'' McCain said. Well of course anything that pleases Thatcher and Nancy must be just what we need. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] COVERUP! COVERUP! COVERUP! [gotta read this!]
-Caveat Lector- Brothers and Sisters, Vital you spread this far and wide! "FREE SPEECH! Use it, or lose it!" --- Ken Hamblin http://www.hamblin.com/ Published in Washington, D.C. 5am -- May 26, 1999 www.washtimes.com Damage in Clinton years 'cannot be made public' By August Gribbin THE WASHINGTON TIMES The unclassified, three-volume, 862-page "Cox Report" details China's smart, sophisticated and successful thefts of U.S. nuclear and missile secrets. But it conceals the extent of espionage during the Clinton years. So barring leaks that further breach U.S. security, the public won't learn exactly what China recently purloined and precisely how huge and damaging the security breaches might be. The administration says that's still secret. In fact, a third of the final report is secret. For example, the first section of the report states: "In the mid-1990s the PRC [People's Republic of China] stole, possibly from a U.S. national weapons laboratory, classified thermonuclear weapons information that cannot be identified in this unclassified report. Because this recent espionage case is currently under investigation and involves sensitive intelligence sources and methods, the Clinton administration has determined that further information cannot be made public without affecting national security or ongoing criminal investigations." On 24 different occasions, the report declares: "The Clinton administration has determined further information cannot be made public." Nonetheless, the report makes clear that information losses in the last seven years have been massive. The special House investigating committee that prepared the report found that "in the late 1990s" the People's Republic of China illegally obtained research and development "technology" that if properly deployed "could be used to attack" U.S. submarines and satellites. Also in the "late 1990s" China obtained basic research material and data on development regarding "electromagnetic weapons," a phrase that refers to neutron bombs and other atomic weapons. The enormously effective neutron bomb destroys mainly by radiation instead of blast. A one kilatron neutron warhead can, for instance, penetrate armor and kill tank crews while causing slight damage to the tanks. It will kill all within 1,310 yards in all directions of the explosion point. The committee concludes, "Such technology, once developed, can be used for space-based weapons to attack satellites and missiles." In 1997, China reportedly stole data telling how to develop "sensitive detection techniques that could be used to threaten U.S. submarines." The principal means of detecting submerged subs is via sonar, a system for hearing and identifying sound underwater. During the Cold War, when U.S. and Soviet submarines were constantly facing off in the depths, the United States made a serious effort to perfect its supersecret listening ability to thwart Russia's "silent running" subs. Carefully avoiding specifics, the report explains that in 1994, a company directly controlled by China's People's Liberation Army was unhindered in buying sophisticated "advanced machine tools" from McDonnell-Douglas. Presumably these tools were used for weapons production. But additionally the committee obtained evidence that "during the 1990s," China stole "technology data from U.S. industry valued at millions of dollars." The committee found that "the PRC used Chinese nationals hired by U.S. firms for that purpose." However, the report adds, "The Clinton administration has determined that no details of this evidence may be made public." In just one 1996-97 operation, the U.S. Customs Service seized $36 million in "excess military property" that was being shipped to China illegally. Included were: Thirty-seven inertial navigation systems for the U.S. F-117 and FB-111 aircraft. Thousands of computers and computer disks containing classified "top secret" information. Patriot missile parts. Five hundred electron tubes used in the U.S. F-14 fighter. Tank and howitzer parts. Twenty-six thousand encryption devices. The report states that Chinese representatives using American-sounding company names "have been the biggest buyers of sensitive electronic surplus material." The implication is that the seized shipment really indicates there were other equally sensitive shipments that escaped detection. For as the committee found, "The PRC has been able to purchase these goods because, in its rush to dispose of excess property, the Defense Department failed to code properly or to disable large amounts of advanced military equipment, allowing PRC buyers to pay for and take immediate possession of functional high-tech equipment.
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: FL800: Donaldson Before Congress
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist FL800: Donaldson Before Congress Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 06:43:50 AM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking before the U.S. House of Representatives, retired Navy crash investigator Commander William Donaldson refers to the persecution of journalist James Sanders and TWA pilot Terrell Stacey (who removed evidence from the crash of Flight 800 for independent investigation), stating: "This rabid behavior to GET Stacey and Sanders at any cost and make an example of them, with the arrest the week before NTSB's Public Hearing, was tailored for maximum intimidation and is in stark contrast to the Justice Department's indifference in the case of Chinese espionage that could eventually threaten every American. If this wasn't a partisan political witch-hunt, what is?" He also made the Congressional Committee aware of a case of blatant whistle-blower suppression, which the major media forgot to tell you about: "...Mr. Hall [NTSB head] wanted Linda Kuntz, another exceptionally talented and respected TWA crash investigator arrested after she pointed out NTSB employees were changing passenger seat location data to conform to NTSB's nonsense theory. Linda had presence of mind to use two NYPD officers to help her photograph her evidence. TWA attorneys sent Mr. Hall a letter citing these facts. He backed off, but was still able to force Ms. Kuntz out of the investigation." So the whistle-blowers get fired or arrested (http://users.erols.com/igoddard/eo13039.htm) and missile evidence is seized or disappears (http://www.erols.com/igoddard/coverup3.htm). Donaldson covered many other important facts: = Retired crash investigator Commander William Donaldson (USN) speaks before The Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure U. S. House of Representatives Subcommittee on Aviation (May 6, 1999): Mr. Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Committee, based on the performance of the NTSB and the actions of the Justice Department while investigating the unexplained loss of TWA Flight 800, I no longer believe the NTSB is capable of fulfilling its aviation mission. It's abuse of power used to muzzle witnesses and Interested Parties simply to promote the Administrations agenda proves that it has become so politicized that the Board itself has become an Aviation hazard. The solution would be to recast the Aviation duties of the NTSB as a completely independent body, like the Federal Reserve, staffed with aviation professionals from every military and civilian career field, overseen by a joint committee of congress. At a minimum, the current leadership should be replaced and the portions of Title 49 and Title 18 that have been used by the Chairman to muzzle and abuse the Interested Parties must be reformed. Under the current law, the NTSB leadership has basically mislead the American people since July 17, 1996. They did this through unfettered access to the media, unending pursuit of nonsense junk science theories without budgetary constraint, common sense or air crash investigation protocol. They have used aerodynamically impossible CIA cartoons, fraudulent videos of hydrogen filled fuel tanks exploding on television, and fear mongering appearances by Administration officials pitching a non-existent 747 flight hazard. All of this goes unanswered by Parties already cautious and severely constrained because of the nature of their highly regulated industries. Their bottom line depends first on government bureaucracy's good will. The severity of current sanctions invites political abuse by barring far more competent independent investigations or even public statements by the Parties until after the NTSB Final Report. Silence by the parties is woefully misinterpreted by the media and the public and easily exploited by partisan politicians. In this incident, 15 weeks before the 1996 election, where Mr. Clinton had motive to cover-up a successful missile attack, that he had clear forewarning of as early as October 11, 1994, the abuses are unprecedented. An author of three books and his wife, James and Liz Sanders are now Felons, tried and convicted last month in federal court for receiving worthless passenger seat fabric. Captain Stacey, a no-nonsense TWA check pilot and Flight 800 crash investigator, gave them this material for outside laboratory analysis of a chemical stain. He admitted in court that he committed this heinous crime because he had lost all faith in
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: STUNNED MAXXAM MANAGEMENT GETS WAKEUP CALL FROM SHAREHOLDERS
Well done. Prudy Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist From: Headwaters Update [EMAIL PROTECTED] H E A D W A T E R S . F O R E S T . U P D A T E Weekly Update 05-24-99 STUNNED MAXXAM MANAGEMENT GETS WAKEUP CALL FROM SHAREHOLDERS Hundreds descend on shareholders meeting to push alternate slate Although Maxxam is no stranger to controversial board meetings, this year's was by far the rowdiest. Environmentalists were joined by 230 United Steelworkers, most of them holding a single share of Maxxam stock apiece, who travelled from Spokane and other cities to attempt to change the Maxxam board that controls Kaiser Aluminum. Word is that when Houston hotels heard about the planned rally, they blackballed the shareholders. Maxxam was forced to move the meeting two hours north to a country club in a Texas town aptly known as Point Blank. Although none of the dissidents were able to secure a room at the exclusive resort, hundreds showed up for the shareholders meeting, including prominent members of the Democratic Party, environmentalists, attorneys, national labor leaders, noted environmentalist David Brower, and the mother of fallen Earth First! activist David "Gypsy" Chain. The coalition backed a slate of two independent directors who pledged to stand up to Maxxam Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Charles Hurwitz and change how the company treats the environment, labor, and its shareholders. The two well-known Democrats, former Ohio Senator Howard Metzenbaum and former federal judge and White House attorney Abner Mikva received a stunning one million votes, for an estimated 15 percent of the total tally. The vote far surpassed the three percent that independent candidates received in 1997, and represents 25 percent of the shares outside of Hurwitz' control. Speaker after speaker said the board had "better start listening to shareholders." Investment specialist Nell Minow of Lens Investment Management remarked that this vote is a wake-up call for Maxxam to reform its way of doing business. "Maxxam's management cannot ignore this important vote for Judge Mikva and Senator Metzenbaum. The board will have to address shareholder concerns ranging from questionable leadership and poor performance to the company's conflict-ridden history." Over the past three years, two California-based environmental foundations, the Rose Foundation for Communities and the Environment and As You Sow Foundation, have waged shareholder campaigns resulting in increasing support. As You Sow's Conrad MacKerron summed up their three year campaign: "We have always maintained that Maxxam can be more profitable by saving old-growth redwoods than by cutting them down. The voting results show that a lot of shareholders agree with us." T H E S E . U P D A T E S . are prepared by Headwaters Sanctuary Project and distributed by Bay Area Action www.baaction.org. Others may repost in entirety at will; please include all contact info. http://www.HeadwatersForest.org | info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O . S U B S C R I B E . send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] S U B J E C T blank B O D Y subscribe Headwaters Yourfirstname Lastname Affiliation * You must send the subscription request from the account at which you wish to receive the Weekly Update Alert, since the ListProcessor program reads your incoming email address to create your subscription. Explore the Web for sites in News Publications from Looksmart! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/300 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/konformist http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990526a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No flights of fancy were attempted during production of this bulletin. * SKEPTINEWS CONTRIBUTORS/EDITORS WANTED * TOMORROW MAY/WILL BE TOO LATE * _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # JIM BAKKER: THE SKY WILL SOON FALL? Former televangelist Jim Bakker says the much-discussed threat of the Y2K computer bug will be a "Sunday picnic" compared to the asteroid he envisions crashing into the Earth and blocking out the sun and moon. "All I say is don't fall in love with this world." : Would you rather that Earth be destroyed by asteroid, supernova, creeping crud, alien attack, nuclear winter, me? Has anyone correctly predicted The End Of The World? Why should such predictions be believed? Are you ready? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Reform Jews debate new principles. PITTSBURGH (AP) - The governing body of Reform Judaism, the biggest and most liberal branch of American Jewry, debated a new set of principles that would represent a return to traditional practices such as keeping kosher and praying in Hebrew. Under the new platform, ancient rituals scoffed at or ignored in Reform communities and usually associated with Conservative or Orthodox Jewry would once again be embraced. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559684695-58f : Does your belief system contain sects with differing rituals? Are sects other than your own all heretics? Do aliens control the dissidents' minds? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Militia leader given 40 years. KALAMAZOO, Mich. (AP) Militiaman Bradford Metcalf, convicted of plotting to blow up government buildings and planning to murder federal officers, was sentenced to 40 years in prison without the possibility of parole. In a rambling, 90-minute speech before sentencing, he accused the judge, the jury and prosecutors of conspiring against him. Bradford was one of three North American Militia members arrested last year as part of a plot to blow up TV and radio stations, electric transformers and federal buildings, including the Internal Revenue Service office. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559684636-98e : Do you want to blow up gov't facilities? Is the legal system conspiring against you? Have you been infiltrated? Do you kill spies? Do you ramble? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Spinach Power for Integrated Circuits and Fuel Cells. Oak Ridge, Tenn. -- Popeye ate spinach leaves for strength. Now researchers at Oak Ridge Nat'l Lab use microscopic spinach proteins for electronic devices. Spinach leaves are blenderized and ground down to microscopic proteins called chloroplasts that convert light into chemical energy. The next step is a scientific breakthrough - put the spinach proteins into a platinum solution to get a metal coating. This marriage between the plant and mineral world could make silicon chips obsolete in another 10 years. www.earthfiles.com/earth002.html : Will Silicon Valley be replaced by Spinach Valley? Will you be told to eat your spinach to improve your data-processing capabilities? Is broccoli next? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # JAPAN ACCUSES U.S. OF HYPOCRISY IN ALLOWING WHALE HUNT. Tokyo charged Washington with hypocrisy for allowing a native American tribe to hunt whales while refusing the same right to traditional whalers in Japan. http://cnn.com/NATURE/9905/25/whaling.conference.ap/index.html *** Whalers say hunt now more humane. "It's more humane than a (cattle) slaughterhouse, where the animal has to be taken out of its environment, transported and wait a long time before it is killed." See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559681143-99c : Does your belief system promote whaling? What endangered species would you like to humanely slaughter? Is humane slaughter a waste of time, adrenaline? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Shroud of Turin - Dematerialization of the Body? Thaddeus Trenn, Ph.D. says the body inside the Shroud experienced a dematerialization due to the influx of intense energy that overcame the strong forces that bind protons and neutrons, and released the matter into energy -- instantly. Evidence that the Shroud images are x-rays - see http://earthfiles.com/earth024.html @ Also: Shroud of Turin - Blood Tests: http://earthfiles.com/earth026.html : Do you want to be Xray-photographically reproduced on a shroud? Would this be evidence of your divinity? Do you want to be divine? Who'd worship you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** E-mail earthquake rumor jolts Peru. LIMA, Peru (AP) - Hundreds of people slept in the streets of the Peruvian capital Tuesday, fearing their houses would fall, after computer messages warned of a massive earthquake. People slept wrapped in blankets along with jugs of water and food in front of their mud-brick homes in the poor Lima districts of Rimac, Barrios Altos, Surquillo and
Re: [CTRL] Seedlessness
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/26/1999 1:39:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After two months of NATO bombing, the daily struggle of most Serbs to put food on the table has become so severe even the regime media has had to acknowledge it. And garsh darn it. I think the Kosovars are having troubles too. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Turkish Views
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/26/1999 1:39:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the West, Turkey's arch-rival Greece and its ally Serbia stand in the way. Turkey is therefore deliberately using the war against Yugoslavia to secure its domination in the Balkans in opposition to Greece. On May 21 a commentary along these lines appeared in Hürriyet, shortly after it was made known that Turkish bombers would not just act as escorts, but actively take part in the bombing: And don't forget, Turkey is taking the side of Moslems, just as Greece and Russia are taking the side of the Orthodox Catholics. Not exactly a surprise is it? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] COVERUP! COVERUP! COVERUP! [gotta read this!]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 05/26/1999 1:31:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The unclassified, three-volume, 862-page "Cox Report" details China's smart, sophisticated and successful thefts of U.S. nuclear and missile secrets. But it conceals the extent of espionage during the Clinton years. So barring leaks that further breach U.S. security, the public won't learn exactly what China recently purloined and precisely how huge and damaging the security breaches might be. I don't remember when the public was ever informed about espionage by other countries (either successful or failed). Sometimes many years later someone puts something into a book. We did find out when Israel got the atomic secrets, but nobody got upset at all. The Russian trawlers sat off Okinawa listening to every word that went off the island in any direction. George Bush was our China man for some years, and he didn't get hysterical about the Chinese trying to "steal" our secrets. Most intelligence agencies use the very fact that thefts are taking place to plant false information. I just wish I knew what Congress is pulling while diverting the public with this "stolen secrets" stuff. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- Which then brings up another point, just what the hell are we giving so many good deals to the RED Chinese, when they are IN FACT OUR ENEMY?! Money is thicker than blood. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- Did Metcalf actually follow through on any plan? Would't it be fair to say, that he seemingly needed medical help, and not persecution in the Courts? Can you blame him for being afraid for his country, afraid enough that he would arm up? Was the third man, the agent provacutuer, often sent in to do the real damage? Why did the Court let Metcalf represent himself when it was obvious he needed a good attorney. It is not the sentence to which I object, it is the length of time..this man believed what he was doing was right? Was he given equal protection of the law? It is okay for Clinton to send bombs on children in the Balkans and Reno to Butcher the innocents at Waconot to forget Ruby Ridgenever forget Ruby Ridge. Now we are told that through Clinton's criminal acts, Chinal has the neutron bomb secret.is Clinton to be charged to causing the possible destruction of the American people. Somewhere, out there, there must be good and decent attorney, such as the one I once had - who will come to Metcalf's aid. And maybe along the way, they will find out there was a Judas, a Brutus, and a Spy.and a victim overwhelmed by the monstrous deeds of our government, so much so that he decided to protect himself. Now had he blown up the IRS building, that would have been a different matter; but I wonder, who would have all stayed home from work that day, like in Oklahoma, while their buddies went down. This thing to me, is unbelievable. Metcalf was pushed over the edge, by his own government. They murdered Koresch and I believe the Halle Bopp, for trying to expose the evil deeds of the Clinton regime.. Someone, can you not help this Metcalf at least get a fair trial, and the medical attention he needs? He was obviously mentally distraught on the verge of a breakdown. I guess now they not only shoot horses, but citizens being pushed over the edige. Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- We have met the enemy, and it us us.. Well, maybe not you, not me.but that pack of garbage sitting in our White House playing sex games and war games, these people are the enemy to the American people. Vote the whole bunch out..some are out now looking for your vote.Jesse Ventura at the present time, is my candidate. He looks like he could take care of himself and us, at the same time.and I do believe, he would put America first. Colleen Let us say, Ventura is a real man; Clinton has been probably on Viagra with Dole for a long time. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Can We Blame all on Guns?
-Caveat Lector- We can however, remove guns from the equation. How, praytell? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Can We Blame all on Guns?
-Caveat Lector- We could have a National Rosy O'Donnell Day. Jamie -Original Message- From: nessie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] How Can We Blame all on Guns? -Caveat Lector- We can however, remove guns from the equation. How, praytell? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Issue #9: Rosie O'Doll consumes children, Dog killed by children, Magazines want JonBenet's body
Well, here it is.my web has been cutting out all daysorry. http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7995/news_9.htm
[CTRL] Urban Preparedness Exercises
-Caveat Lector- Maryland is invaded. The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance "In a age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell -- From: Vincent Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: P.S. Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 4:13 PM Additionally, A fellow office mate mentioned that in Chester, where he resides, the Army conducted "Urban Preparedness Exercises" in the projects this past weekend. The residents of course were not happy. Hmmm, could there indeed be some truth to the rumor concerning "military takeover of cities" in the fall. VL DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] GOP candidates denounce Clinton for 'security lapses'
-Caveat Lector- TOP POLITICAL STORY GOP candidates denounce Clinton for 'security lapses' By Donald Lambro THE WASHINGTON TIMES Picture: The Republican candidates for the 2000 presidential nomination accused President Clinton yesterday of endangering America's national security by failing to take steps to prevent China from stealing U.S. nuclear technology. In a blizzard of statements reacting to the Cox report's disclosures that China has obtained valuable nuclear-missile information, the candidates blamed Mr. Clinton for the administration's lax security at the Energy Department's Los Alamos, N.M., nuclear labs. They also made it clear by their responses that the security issues raised in the report of the bipartisan panel headed by Rep. Chris Cox, California Republican, will be at the top of their agendas in the 2000 presidential campaign. "It is very alarming that these serious allegations of spying activities were known for some time and compromised our national security, yet the Justice Department refused to investigate them," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican. He said "too little action was taken too late by the administration, resulting in the fact that the Chinese may have been able to build nuclear weapons comparable to ours." Mr. McCain said the administration was to blame for a "complete failure to effectively bring these breaches of security to a halt." "Questions will be asked why, in the face of overwhelming evidence that these operations were taking place, didn't the Justice Department and this administration do more to stop it?" he said. "The public deserves a swift and honest response." "Every American should be outraged by the security lapses at our national laboratories and the subsequent failure of the Clinton-Gore administration to deal with this breach," said Elizabeth Dole, another GOP contender for the White House. Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination, likewise attacked Mr. Clinton for not taking action to halt the theft of information even after the administration was aware of the problem. "Presented with detailed information about China's espionage, this administration apparently did not take it seriously, did not react properly and it is still trying to minimize the scope and extent of the damage done," Mr. Bush said as he called for a full-scale congressional investigation. Mr. Bush acknowledged that China's espionage has been going on for years, including during the administration of his father, former President George Bush, but he said that did not excuse Mr. Clinton from his responsibility to keep strategic military secrets out of the hands of America's adversaries. "It's unfortunate that China has been stealing secrets during Carter, Reagan, Bush and Clinton. But there is only one administration that has been given the news. Only one administration knew -- and that's the Clinton administration. The interesting question is, when did they know?" Mr. Bush also called for "a full and serious review of export controls" to prevent further U.S. technology from helping China militarily. Magazine magnate Steve Forbes said the spying went unheeded because of what he called the administration's "hear no evil, see no evil and speak no evil" policy toward China, which "has deeply wounded the U.S.'s ability to defend itself." Mr. Forbes called for suspending all U.S. armed forces cooperation with the Chinese military, slapping "stiff sanctions" on People's Liberation Army companies doing business in the U.S., fully funding a missile-defense system, and rejecting China's membership in the World Trade Organization. "This is going to be a big issue in next year's campaign," said another GOP candidate, Gary Bauer, who has made U.S. relations with China a major issue in his presidential bid. "I've been in eight states in the last couple of days, and the anger level over this is unbelievable," Mr. Bauer said. "When I say we are likely to give China most-favored trading status, there are boos in the audience." **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990526c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Several small cute fuzzy animals were tortured to produce this bulletin. * SKEPTINEWS CONTRIBUTORS/EDITORS WANTED * TOMORROW MAY/WILL BE TOO LATE * _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Seahenge' moves on. (BBC) A Bronze Age circle of wooden posts, known as "Seahenge", is being removed from the sands on the Norfolk coast. All wet: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_353000/353337.stm # Also: Ancient 'tool factory' uncovered: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_336000/336555.stm # Fences come down at Stonehenge: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_326000/326499.stm # Ancient tomb captured both Sun and Moon: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_313000/313720.stm # Ancient tomb captured the winter sun: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_298000/298999.stm : Did aliens build underwater landing beacons? Would you? Are they fakes? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ This Wide Wide Weird World of Sex. Many say there is nothing unusual under the sun. Maybe so, but then perhaps they have not done much research in the world of sex. "The pilgrimage to Mecca is not perfected save by copulation with the camel." See http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/5840/wws.txt : Would you rather have sex with a camel, Reptilioid, Republican, Borg, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # BRITS KEEP CRYPTO KEYS. The Blair gov't decides the key-crypto encryption plan would do little for security, and harm e-commerce. Will Congress agree? www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/business/story/19885.html # Israeli pirates shut airport. A battle of the airwaves has broken out bet- ween up to 150 pirate radio stations and the nation's international airport. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_352000/352642.stm # PIRACY STILL RAMPANT IN RUSSIA. Although software piracy is on the decline worldwide, more than 90% of warez in Russia, China and Vietnam is pirated. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/politics/story/19866.html : Do you prefer to attack entities electronically, digitally, commercially? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # No Mir flight for British businessman. The British businessman who claimed he would fly on the Mir Space Station has had his training programme halted. Bother. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_353000/353467.stm # Few on Earth are excited about the International Space Station. Bridge to the future: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559687371-26a # Lift-off for Indian space rocket. India launches its first commercial rocket - and says it will be able to compete on price for future launches. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_352000/352890.stm : What would you do to go to space? What would you pay? When do you leave? Would you fly an Indian spaceship? Might it accidentally fall on Pakistan? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # AUSTRALIA POISED TO BURY PORN. Legislation imposing stiff fines on ISPs hosting adult Web sites is close to becoming law. If that happens, Oz will have one of the toughest online anti-porn laws in the world. No bloody fun: www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/politics/story/19888.html # Gov't retreat on e-commerce. The UK gov't is withdrawing plans for tough new laws for electronic commerce designed to boost security and cut fraud. news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/the_economy/newsid_353000/353416.stm # POLS DRAW A BEAD ON CHILD PORN. Congress begins debating a law targeting online pedophiles. Any child who logs onto the Net is a potential victim?? www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/politics/story/19873.html : What restrictions would you like to impose on the Net? Would they work? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # A cosmic mistake. (BBC) Mankind's first serious message to the stars con- tained two errors say embarrassed scientists. More alien disinformation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_353000/353409.stm # Also: Interstellar message says 'ET call Earth' - use British TeleCom: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_351000/351461.stm # Two Antarctic Ice Shelves Almost Gone. Global warming could see drowning of coastal cities, regions by 2050. http://earthfiles.com/earth020.html # Also: GW and Traumatic Precipitation: http://earthfiles.com/earth007.html # Magazine disputes Chinook tragedy cause. (BBC) Computer software, not pilot error, is blamed for a helicopter crash in which 29 people died. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_353000/353063.stm @ Links: Computer Weekly: www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwmain/cwhome.asp @ Air Accident Investigations Branch: www.open.gov.uk/aaib/aaibhome.htm : Will misled ETs be mad? Would you rather be killed by angry students or aliens, clumsy programmers,
[CTRL] Scientists Say Dolly Has Slight DNA Damage
-Caveat Lector- Wednesday May 26 4:28 PM ET Scientists Say Dolly Has Slight DNA Damage By Patricia Reaney LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists who created Dolly the sheep, the world's first cloned mammal, said Wednesday she has slight DNA damage that could have an impact on how cloning technology is used in the future. Dolly and two other cloned sheep have shorter telomeres -- the tiny strands of DNA at the end of chromosomes that scientists believe may hold the secrets to youth and aging. Telomeres shorten each time a cell divides and are progressively eroded as an animal ages. As the telomeres shorten the chromosomes can become unstable and prone to damage. Researchers from Edinburgh's Roslin Institute and PPL Therapeutics said Dolly, who was cloned from a cell taken from a six-year-old sheep, had telomeres that were about 20 percent shorter than those of other sheep of a similar age. ``We don't see any signs of any problem in Dolly and the other animals but perhaps it is too early to note such a problem. We just don't know,'' PPL's Alan Colman said in an interview. The finding, reported in a letter to the science journal Nature, is not unexpected. Scientists know that cell culture leads to a shortening of telomeres and cells used for Dolly and the other sheep were cultured in the laboratory. In Dolly's case the shortening was compounded because she was derived from a cell from a middle-aged animal. ``This telomere erosion is just one form of DNA damage. People have speculated for years that as we get older our cells accumulate mutations individually. When you make an animal from one of those cells it is possible that you are transferring that,'' Colman said. Although the research does not appear to have any consequences for cloning livestock it could have implications in other uses of the technology. ``It reminds people this is an issue that should be called into account in any of the proposals for, not so much agricultural cloning, but some of the uses in human therapeutic cloning where extensive time periods of culture in vitro would be necessary. It could be an issue,'' he added. Therapeutic cloning to improve treatments for serious diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's or to create cloned tissue and organs would involve the use of adult cells. ``Human therapeutic cloning, if it ever does come about, is going to use human adult cells. That's the whole purpose,'' said Colman. The research could be particularly important in sequential cloning -- cloning a clone of a clone -- which could lead to progressive shortening of telomeres. But Coleman and his colleagues said problems, if they do arise, may not be insurmountable. Scientists can use embryonic cells for cloning and could also cut the cell time in culture which could reduce telomere shortening. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Perspectives on China and Spying
-Caveat Lector- Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ P.M. Wednesday, May 26, 1999 PERSPECTIVES ON CHINA AND SPYING MIKE MOORE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bullatomsci.org/issues/1999/mj99/mj99schwartz.html Editor of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Moore said: "What the Chinese are doing is developing a survivable second-strike force -- that is the ability to respond if they are attacked. To do this, they need to miniaturize their nuclear warheads to fit them on mobile missiles. To do that, you need to do a lot of nuclear testing, which the U.S. and others have done, but the Chinese have not. So, instead, they may have stolen some of the data." LISBETH GRONLUND, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior staff scientist at the Union of Concerned Scientists and research fellow at MIT's security studies program, Gronlund said: "We need some perspective on this... China has less than two-dozen warheads that can reach the U.S., while the U.S. has thousands that can reach China... One of the things that the Chinese are concerned about is the credibility of their nuclear deterrent, particularly with all the talk in the U.S. of building national missile defense -- which China sees as targeted at China." SAM DAY Day was managing editor of The Progressive magazine when it was taken to court by the government for publishing an article, "The H-Bomb Secret," which challenged nuclear weapons secrecy. Today he said: "The notion that the Chinese have stolen vital nuclear information is obviously not true and is part of an agenda on the part of people who seek to embarrass the administration and to invent new enemies to replace the Soviet Union." JAY TRUMAN, http://www.downwinders.org Director of Downwinders, Truman said: "I find it very hypocritical for us to -- a year ago -- complain about the Indians and Pakistanis developing nuclear weapons while we aided the Chinese in developing theirs. Meanwhile, we have insisted on developing deadlier nuclear weapons. Real leadership would be in stopping -- not pushing -- the arms race. This is reminiscent of when the U.S. helped the Soviets use nuclear explosions for so-called 'peaceful' purposes, but the real goal was to undermine efforts for a test ban." STEVEN AFTERGOOD, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.fas.org Research analyst at the Federation of American Scientists, Aftergood said: "The tone of the discussion has far outpaced the available facts. The Cox Report claims that Chinese nuclear technology is 'on a par' with the United States. That is manifestly untrue." ROBERT WEIL, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Author of "Red Cat, White Cat: China and the Contradictions of 'Market Socialism,'" Weil said: "China has consistently called for universal nuclear disarmament and a pledge of no-first-use of such weapons, positions that the U.S. rejects... It is the U.S., not China, that maintains the largest spy agencies in the world and is the one that is launching missiles at various countries -- including being at least careless enough to hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade." For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] War Powers
-Caveat Lector- From www.house.gov/paul/press/press99/pr052699.htm FOR RELEASE: May 26, 1999 Clinton in violation of law Had 60 days to pull-out of Kosovo or get approval -- neither has happened WASHINGTON, DC -- As of 12:01 am Wednesday, May 26, President Clinton will be in clear violation of the 1973 War Powers Resolution. This is the first time a president has violated the resolution since its enactment. "President Clinton has nothing left to claim: he is in complete violation of the Wars Powers Resolution, there is simply no other interpretation," said US Rep. Ron Paul (R, TX). Rep. Paul is one of 26 Members of Congress who have filed a lawsuit in federal court against President Clinton in regards to his violation of the War Powers Resolution and the US Constitution. "No one can argue that a president must, when there is a direct, clear and present danger to American lives, take defensive actions to protect our national interest. However, 60 days ago this president decided to take agg ressive action against a sovereign nation; and has since had congressional authorization rejected by a vote of 427 to 2," said Rep. Paul. Under the War Powers Resolution, a president may engage in hostilities for 60 days without congressional approval. At the end of the 60-day period, however, the president must have either received a Declaration of War, re ceived authorization to continue the action for another set period of time, or begin withdrawing the troops. Since the bombing of Yugoslavia began, the president has been denied a declaration of war and authorization. "Once again, though, President Clinton is demonstrating his utter disregard for the Constitution and laws of this nation. He apparently views himself as a king, rather than the president of a constitutional republic; he m ust believe that his will is the law, rather than the Constitution and acts of Congress," said Rep. Paul. "To say this president is anything but dangerous and reckless would be a gross understatement." Rep. Paul said that while many presidents have violated, with the unspoken consent of Congress, the constitutional responsibility for the initiation of war, President Clinton has done so more frequently and brazenly than any other this century. "While I am hopeful this president will change his course, recent history has shown this president holds no more respect for court orders than he does for the Constitution or the War Powers Resolution. If he shows the same contempt as in the past, our nation faces serious trouble." From WorldNetDaily Kiss those rights goodbye By Joel Miller © 1999 WorldNetDaily According to the War Powers Resolution Act of 1973, the president is permitted a limited period of time in which he can send American troops to far-flung lands and have them shoot people. When that time draws nigh, he's s upposed to do what the Constitution says and get Congress' permission to shoot those people. Should Congress refuse to grant such permission, the commander in chief is suppose to call the troops home and turn his attentio n to more domestic matters -- like milking Littleton, saving Social Security, and salvaging his legacy. Well, Bill's 60-day "Kill-the-Slavs-for-free" pass ran out yesterday. Now, theoretically, Clinton faces an interesting dilemma: either he calls the troops home before they've finished whatever it is they're doing in Yugos lavia, or pleads with Congress to give him a formal declaration of war so he can go on molesting the Serbs and any unfortunate Albanian bystanders. Of course, constitutionally this is good and proper, and it's truly heartening to see Congress actually remember that it's supposed to read and follow that old document every now and then, but I've got to say, this doesn' t necessarily bode well for any of us. Let's say that Clinton chooses to impale himself on the first horn of the dilemma and calls the troops home. It might look like he lost -- but maybe not. Let's just say that he declares a victory -- we don't actually have to win for Clinton to claim we did. Besides, lying and making it look good is how this guy survives. After the cogs of the Clinton spin machine start cranking and the talking heads have bumped gums on the Sunday morning yammer shows, Republicans might well look like genocide fans for forcing Clinton bring home the guys in cammie pants. Even if Clinton pulls the troops and somehow manages to look like a winner, the other choice is bleaker still. Congressmen are saying that we need to force the president to abide by the Constitution. I'm all for it. But i s anyone worried about what a formal declaration of war would look like -- provided Congress decides to grant it? Despite all the bold heroics and John Wayne movies, wars mean one thing for certain -- clamping down on liberties stateside. The government's powers are expanded
[CTRL] (Fwd) ZNet Commentary May 26 - Brian Dominick
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Michael Albert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:ZNet Commentary May 26 - Brian Dominick Date sent: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:09:30 +0100 Here is today's ZNet Commentary Delivery from Brian Dominick. The attached file is the same material in nicely formatted html so that you can read it in your browser if you wish. To pass this comment along to friends, relatives, etc. please note that the Commentaries are a premium sent to monthly donors to Z/ZNet and that to learn more about the project folks can consult ZNet (http://www.zmag.org) and specifically the Commentary Page (http://www.zmag.org/Commentaries/donorform.htm). Here then is today's ZNet Commentary... -- Sorry this one is arriving late -- no good excuse, I just forgot to click to send last night, after preparing it. Sorry again -- ZNet Commentary May 26, 1999 That's Some Catch: NATO Washington Beyond the Brink by Brian Dominick "Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions If he flew them he was crazy and didn't have to; but if he didn't want to he was sane and had to" --Joseph Heller, _Catch-22_ As the NATO rampage continues in Yugoslavia, Western military and political leaders seem to be drifting slowly away from what can be fully explained by institutional analysis. While it's relatively clear why NATO got itself into the current mess, inflating the crisis exponentially to establish a new post-Cold War role for the "alliance" (TM, LucasArts), the logic employed by NATO strategists in their day-to-day rhetoric and actions grows increasingly murky. All told, many hundreds of civilians of all regional ethnicities have been killed in the nightly raids. Meanwhile, I have counted more than 40 mornings in nine weeks when NATO officials or affiliates have announced or "called for" an "increase" in the quantity and strength of the aerial attacks -- even and especially right after accidental catastrophes like refugee bombardments and the Chinese Embassy missile mishap. These demonstrations of Western resolve are used to counter what should be shameful humiliation over vicious blunders. The latest example of such arrogance was the "accidental" bombing of a KLA barracks, immediately followed by an announcement of intensification. Of course, referring to collateral damage as accidental is like telling Gramma you "mistakenly" dropped her favourite vase while tossing it about. NATO's latest attempt at half-assed diplomacy has been to invoke the ultimate Catch-22. They told Milosevic, if he wants "peace," he must extract his troops from Kosovo. But he must do so visibly. However, NATO has admitted that all Serbian forces spotted moving in any direction will be attacked from above with extreme prejudice. "That's some catch, that Catch-22," a reporter reportedly commented. "It's the best there is," replied a Pentagon official speaking on conditions of anonymity. Still hoping to bomb into submission the same population which defeated eight divisions of Third Reich infantry during World War II, NATO's pipe dreams are regurgitated in the corporate media, the latter by now almost fanatical in its willingness to sugar-coat even the most absurd among the military's stances, in ostensible support of forces to which reporters regularly refer as "our troops." A few days after Germany announced, in one of the most refreshing turns of events in more than two months of unchecked aggression, that it would definitely not allow NATO to stage a ground invasion of Kosovo, the BBC web site ran a headline "Allies United on Kosovo Troops." The headline was misleading, to say the least. In reality, the UK and US, at least according to their respective foreign ministers Cook and Alrbight, are gung-ho to invade, even under "non-permissive" conditions. (You may recall such "non-permissive" environments as Japan and Vietnam). In reality, NATO is a schitzophrenic headcase over the issue of a ground war, not least as a result of popular pressure in Italy, Greece and now Germany, where the divided Green Party finally took a stance in favor of de-escalation. In an almost unique display of momentary bias against NATO practice, CNN reported last week on a UN Security Council document claiming Western forces have dropped more than 15,000 cluster "bomblets" (4 out of 5 kids agree they're cuter than their name!) on Yugoslav soil. This saturation has resulted so far in the deaths of over 200 people and wounded 450 more in Kosova/Metohija alone, leaving countless more bomblets waiting to explode. CNN itself referred to the employment of cluster bombs, in addition to depleted uranium ammunition, as the "use of banned weaponry." According to my own research, DU and cluster bombs,
[CTRL] Fwd: S99-90, Day 64 (May 26, 5:00PM EDT) - A Special TiM GWBulletin on NATO's War on Serbia
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins on NATO's war on Serbia, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. Issue S99-90, Day 64 --- May 26, 1999; 5:00PM EDT HEADLINES Washington 1. Second Russian Spy Ship Sails to Ionian Sea Washington 2. German Foreign Minister: Russia Might Abandon Serbia; Next Two Weeks Crucial London3. Radioactivity in Macedonia 8 Times Above Normal Vlore 4. Albanian Gangs Abduct Kosovo Refugee Girls for Prostitution; Some Are Killed If They Resist 1. Second Russian Spy Ship Sails to Ionian Sea WASHINGTON, May 24 - The second Russian spy ship, the Kilden, which left the Black Sea port of Sevastopol on May21, arrived in the Ionian Sea over the weekend to begin electronic eavesdropping and other surveillance of NATO's war against Yugoslavia, the Pentagon sources told the Washington Times on May 24. The Kilden joins the Limen, which has been monitoring the NATO electronic traffic in the Adriatic since early April (see Day 8, Update 2, Item 4, Mar. 31). "The Kilden's presence there will mark the first time since 1991 that two Russian intelligence ships have operated in the same area," one Pentagon intelligence official told the Washington Times. The Limen is expected to sail to the Syrian port of Tartas in the next few days for refueling and resupply and probably will return to the Ionian, the officials said. Serbia's military also provided wreckage of a crashed U.S. F-117 stealth fighter to Moscow, the Times said.. A classified report by the National Counterintelligence Center, an interagency group within CIA headquarters, stated in March that Russia was recruiting spies, collecting technology and sabotaging international peacekeeping activities in the Balkans. The report, made available to the Times, said current and former Russian intelligence officials were cooperating with the Serbs. The increase in Russian spying on NATO follows an earlier intelligence report from Moscow indicating the Russian government has ordered all military officers to sever ties to U.S. and Western defense attaches. 2. German Foreign Minister: Russia Might Abandon Serbia; Next Two Weeks Crucial WASHINGTON, May 25 - Despite the reports about the alleged intelligence sharing between the Serbs and the Russians, such as that implied in the previous story, the German foreign minister thinks that when the push comes to shove, Russia will abandon Serbia. Speaking in a joint news conference with Madeleine Albright, the secretary of state, during his official visit to Washington, Germany's Joschka Fischer (yes, the one who got red paint in his ear from his Greens - see S99-77, Day 51, Update 2, Item 1, May 13), said the Russian government "might abandon Milosevic and side with the West." The Russians, Fischer said, "did not have a lasting interest in having their relationship with the West sidelined by the Kosovo war." --- TiM Ed.: Well, the NWO quisling-Russians of the Boris Yeltsin and Viktor Chernomyrdin ilk may feel that way, as we've pointed out in our earlier reports (see S99-69, Day 45, item 1, May 7 and S99-73, Day 49, Update 1, Item 3, May 11). But a vast majority of Russians are outraged by NATO's unprovoked attack on Yugoslavia (see S99-70, Day 46, Update 1, Item 3, May 8). And many of them are doing something about it, such as the Russian volunteers in Serbia (see S99-88, Day 62, Item 5, May 24). With Yeltsin being as frail and apparently out of it mentally, it is far from certain as to how things may shake themselves out in Moscow in the end. --- Meanwhile, "we are in a very decisive situation in the conflict, because within the next two weeks, we will see whether we get a political solution or not," Fischer told reporters at a breakfast meeting at the Germany embassy in Washington, according to the New York Times (May 26). 3. Radioactivity in Macedonia 8 Times Above Normal LONDON, May 25 - TiM's sources in Britain say that Channel 4, a major TV network in the U.K., reported during its May 15 prime time newscast radioactivity in Macedonia, a neighboring country to Serbia, has been measured to be eight times higher than normal, due to NATO's bombing of Serbia. The lab tests were carried out in Bulgaria, the Channel 4 said, also citing opinions by scientists, such as Dr. Klaus Dodds of the London University. The Channel 4 reported linked the increased radioactivity to NATO's use of the depleted uranium bombs. It also said that the air in many Balkan states around Serbia has been contaminated with carcinogenic toxins released into the atmosphere following NATO's bombing of chemical plants in Serbia. The British TV
[CTRL] Reagan GuatemalaÕs Death Files
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/ A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/"The Consortium/A - May 26, 1999 Reagan Guatemalas Death Files By Robert Parry Ronald Reagan's election in November 1980 set off celebrations in the well-to-do communities of Central America. After four years of Jimmy Carter's human rights nagging, the region's anticommunist hard-liners were thrilled that they had someone in the White House who understood their problems. The oligarchs and the generals had good reason for the optimism. For years, Reagan had been a staunch defender of right-wing regimes that engaged in bloody counterinsurgency campaigns against leftist enemies. In the late 1970s, when Carter's human rights coordinator, Pat Derian, criticized the Argentine military for its "dirty war" -- tens of thousands of "disappearances," tortures and murders -- then-political commentator Reagan joshed that she should "walk a mile in the moccasins of the Argentine generals before criticizing them. Despite his aw shucks style, Reagan found virtually every anticommunist action justified, no matter how brutal. From his eight years in the White House, there is no historical indication that he was troubled by the bloodbath and even genocide that occurred in Central America during his presidency, while he was shipping hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to the implicated forces. The death toll was staggering -- an estimated 70,000 or more political killings in El Salvador, possibly 20,000 slain from the contra war in Nicaragua, about 200 political "disappearances" in Honduras and some 100,000 people eliminated during a resurgence of political violence in Guatemala. The one consistent element in these slaughters was the overarching Cold War rationalization, emanating in large part from Ronald Reagan's White House. Yet, as the world community moves to punish war crimes in the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda, no substantive discussion has occurred in the United States about facing up to this horrendous record of the 1980s. Rather than a debate about Reagan as a potential war criminal, the ailing ex-president is honored as a conservative icon with his name attached to Washington National Airport and with an active legislative push to have his face carved into Mount Rushmore. When the national news media does briefly acknowledge the barbarities of the 1980s in Central America, it is in the context of one-day stories about the little countries bravely facing up to their violent pasts. At times, the CIA is fingered abstractly as a bad supporting actor in the violent dramas. But never does the national press lay blame on individual American officials. The grisly reality of Central America was most recently revisited on Feb. 25 when a Guatemalan truth commission issued a report on the staggering human rights crimes that occurred during a 34-year civil war. The Historical Clarification Commission, an independent human rights body, estimated that the conflict claimed the lives of some 200,000 people with the most savage bloodletting occurring in the 1980s. Based on a review of about 20 percent of the dead, the panel blamed the army for 93 percent of the killings and leftist guerrillas for three percent. Four percent were listed as unresolved. The report documented that in the 1980s, the army committed 626 massacres against Mayan villages. "The massacres that eliminated entire Mayan villages are neither perfidious allegations nor figments of the imagination, but an authentic chapter in Guatemala's history," the commission concluded. The army "completely exterminated Mayan communities, destroyed their livestock and crops," the report said. In the north, the report termed the slaughter a "genocide." [WP, Feb. 26, 1999] Besides carrying out murder and disappearances, the army routinely engaged in torture and rape. "The rape of women, during torture or before being murdered, was a common practice" by the military and paramilitary forces, the report found. The report added that the "government of the United States, through various agencies including the CIA, provided direct and indirect support for some [of these] state operations." The report concluded that the U.S. government also gave money and training to a Guatemalan military that committed "acts of genocide" against the Mayans. "Believing that the ends justified everything, the military and the state security forces blindly pursued the anticommunist struggle, without respect for any legal principles or the most elemental ethical and religious values, and in this way, completely lost any semblance of human morals," said the commission chairman, Christian Tomuschat, a German jurist. "Within the framework of the counterinsurgency operations carried out between 1981 and 1983, in certain regions of the country agents of the Guatemalan state committed acts of genocide against groups of the Mayan people, he added. [NYT, Feb. 26, 1999] The
[CTRL] The US-Guatemala File
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/ A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/"The Consortium/A - May 26, 1999 The US-Guatemala File By Robert Parry The modern Guatemalan tragedy traces back to 1954 and a CIA-engineered coup against the reform-minded government of Jacobo Arbenz. But other lesser-known chapters in the blood-soaked saga -- spanning 40 years -- also feature American officials in important supporting roles. Newly released U.S. government documents describe in chilling detail, often in cold bureaucratic language, how American advisers and their Cold War obsession spurred on the killings and hid the horrible secrets. In the mid-1960s, for instance, the Guatemalan security forces were disorganized, suffering from internal divisions, and possibly infiltrated by leftist opponents. So, the U.S. government dispatched U.S. public safety adviser John Longon from his base in Venezuela. Arriving in late 1965, Longon sized up the problem and began reorganizing the Guatemalan security forces into a more efficient - and ultimately, more lethal - organization. In a Jan. 4, 1966, report on his activities, Longon said he recommended both overt and covert components to the military's battle against "terrorism." One of Longon's strategies was to seal off sections of Guatemala City and begin house-to-house searches. "The idea behind this was to force some of the wanted communists out of hiding and into police hands, as well as to convince the Guatemalan public that the authorities were doing something to control the situation." Longon also arranged for U.S. advisers to begin giving "day-to-day operational advice" to Guatemalan police. On the covert side, Longon pressed for "a safe house [to] be immediately set up" for coordination of security intelligence. "A room was immediately prepared in the [Presidential] Palace for this purpose and Guatemalans were immediately designated to put this operation into effect." Longon's operation within the presidential compound was the starting point for the infamous "Archivos" intelligence unit that became the clearinghouse for political assassinations. Longon's final recommendations sought assignment of special U.S. advisers to assist in the covert operations and delivery of special intelligence equipment, presumably for spying on Guatemalan citizens. With the American input, the Guatemalan security forces soon became one of the most feared counterinsurgency operations in Latin America. Just two months after Longon's report, a secret CIA cable noted the clandestine execution of several Guatemalan "communists and terrorists" on the night of March 6, 1966. By the end of the year, the Guatemalan government was bold enough to request U.S. help in establishing special kidnapping squads, according to a cable from the U.S. Southern Command that was forwarded to Washington on Dec. 3. By 1967, the Guatemalan counterinsurgency terror had gained a fierce momentum. On Oct. 23, 1967, the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research noted the "accumulating evidence that the [Guatemalan] counter-insurgency machine is out of control." The report noted that Guatemalan "counter-terror" units were carrying out abductions, bombings, torture and summary executions "of real and alleged communists." The mounting death toll in Guatemala disturbed some of the American officials assigned to the country. One official, the embassy's deputy chief of mission Viron Vaky, expressed his concerns in a remarkably candid report that he submitted on March 29, 1968, after returning to Washington. Vaky framed his arguments in pragmatic, rather than moral, terms, but his personal anguish broke through. The official squads are guilty of atrocities. Interrogations are brutal, torture is used and bodies are mutilated, Vaky wrote. In the minds of many in Latin America, and, tragically, especially in the sensitive, articulate youth, we are believed to have condoned these tactics, if not actually encouraged them. Therefore our image is being tarnished and the credibility of our claims to want a better and more just world are increasingly placed in doubt. I need hardly add the aspect of domestic U.S. reactions. This leads to an aspect I personally find the most disturbing of all -- that we have not been honest with ourselves. We have condoned counter-terror; we may even in effect have encouraged or blessed it. We have been so obsessed with the fear of insurgency that we have rationalized away our qualms and uneasiness. This is not only because we have concluded we cannot do anything about it, for we never really tried. Rather we suspected that maybe it is a good tactic, and that as long as Communists are being killed it is alright. Murder, torture and mutilation are alright if our side is doing it and the victims are Communists. After all hasn't man been a savage from the beginning of time so let us not be too queasy about terror. I have literally heard these
[CTRL] Russia's Prime Minister and October Surprise
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/ A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/"The Consortium/A - May 15, 1999 Russia's Prime Minister and October Surprise By Robert Parry On May 12, U.S. reporters rushed out stories about Russia's new prime minister-designate Sergey V. Stepashin and the new crisis confronting Russia's democracy. But the reporters didnt mention Stepashin's role in a troubling chapter of American "lost history," an omission suggesting that Russia's is not the only democracy in trouble. In 1992-93, as chairman of the Supreme Soviet's Committee on Defense and Security Issues, Stepashin oversaw an official investigation into what Moscow's intelligence files revealed about Republican secret activities in 1980 aimed at undercutting President Carter's desperate efforts to free 52 American hostages held in Iran. The long-simmering allegations of Republican sabotage were known as the "October Surprise" controversy, named after GOP suspicions that Carter was hoping to free the hostages right before the November elections. Instead, according to a variety of Iranian officials and foreign intelligence operatives, Republican emissaries, led by Ronald Reagans campaign director William J. Casey, negotiated a secret deal to delay the hostages' freedom. The hostages were freed on Jan. 20, 1981, minutes after Reagan was sworn in. Stepashin undertook the review of Russia's intelligence files at the request of Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Ind., who was head of a congressional task force assigned to examine the controversy in 1992. Hamilton sent Stepashin the request on Oct. 21, 1992, presumably because some members of the bipartisan House task force suspected that the October Surprise story might have originated as Soviet "disinformation." By fall 1992, under pressure from then-President George Bush and other Republicans, Hamilton already had settled on a finding that there was "no credible evidence" to support the charges that the Reagan-Bush campaign had sabotaged Carter's hostage negotiations. But on Jan. 11, 1993 -- just two days before Hamilton was scheduled to announce his conclusions -- Stepashin reported back with the results of his internal Russian investigation. Translated by the U.S. Embassy in Moscow and forwarded to Congress, Stepashin's six-page report stated that Moscow possessed detailed information about secret initiatives undertaken by the Reagan-Bush campaign to negotiate a delay in the hostages freedom. Stepashins findings implicated George Bush, Ronald Reagan, William Casey and Robert Gates in the pre-election machinations. "William Casey, in 1980, met three times with representatives of the Iranian leadership," Stepashin's report read. "The meetings took place in Madrid and Paris." At the Paris meeting in October 1980, "R[obert] Gates, at that time a staffer of the National Security Council in the administration of Jimmy Carter, and former CIA director George Bush also took part. In Madrid and Paris, the representatives of Ronald Reagan and the Iranian leadership discussed the question of possibly delaying the release of 52 hostages from the staff of the U.S. Embassy in Teheran." Stepashin's report also described President Carter's secret offers to Iran. One key meeting occurred in Athens in July 1980 with Pentagon representatives agreeing "in principle" to deliver "a significant quantity of spare parts for F-4 and F-5 aircraft and also M-60 tanks via Turkey," according to Stepashin's report. In return, Iranians "discussed a possible step-by-step normalization of Iranian-American relations [and] the provision of support for President Carter in the election campaign via the release of American hostages." Stepashin wrote matter of factly about this geopolitical bartering. He observed that both the Reagan campaign and the Carter administration "started with the proposition that [Iran's leader] Imam [Ruhollah] Khomeini, having announced a policy of 'neither the West nor the East,' and cursing the 'American devil,' imperialism and Zionism, was forced to acquire American weapons, spares and military supplies by any and all possible means." The Republicans just won the bidding war. Nevertheless, President Carter had the constitutional authority to conduct negotiations with foreign powers. The Republican campaign did not. Stepashin also described how the Reagan administration fulfilled its debt to Iran. "After the victory of R. Reagan in the election, in early 1981, a secret agreement was reached in London in accord with which Iran released the American hostages, and the U.S. continued to supply arms, spares and military supplies for the Iranian army," Stepashin wrote. The deliveries were carried out by Israel, often through private arms dealers, his report said. Spares for F-14 fighters and other military equipment went to Iran from Israel in March-April 1981 and the arms pipeline stayed open into the mid-1980s. "Through the Israeli conduit, Iran in 1983
[CTRL] ÔLike I WasnÕt President at AllÕ
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/ A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/"The Consortium/A - May 26, 1999 Like I Wasnt President at All By Robert Parry In 1992, less than four years after leaving the White House, Ronald Reagan claimed to have forgotten virtually every fact about the Iran-contra scandal, according to a newly released transcript of a formal deposition. "It's like I wasn't president at all," Reagan said in response to one inquiry. Iran-contra special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh accepted that Reagan's memory loss was a consequence of the ex-president's Alzheimer's disease. But the deposition also reveals that Reagan answered in rich detail when questioned about coincidental events not connected to alleged Iran-contra crimes. Despite Reagan's unresponsive answers, the deposition offered a look at unreleased Reagan diary entries that were read into the record. The diary demonstrated that Reagan was intimately involved with the Iran-contra operations and fully aware that some of his actions violated the law. Yet, when Walsh and his prosecutors questioned Reagan about even basic facts that connected to the scandal, the ex-president asserted a near-total lack of memory. Asked if George Shultz was secretary of state in Reagan's second term, Reagan answered, "I think so, but I can't swear anymore." "During your second term was Bud McFarlane the national security adviser?" asked a prosecutor. "I can't tell you or remember when Bud left that job," Reagan responded. Robert "Bud" McFarlane resigned on Dec. 5, 1985, nearly a year into Reagan's second term. On more substantive questions, Walsh's team read entries from Reagan's diary to refresh his memory about the Iran-contra arms-for-hostage deals, but that didn't help. Walsh asked about a Feb. 26, 1985, entry in which Reagan wrote, "Assad seems to be making effort to get four kidnap victims back from Hezbollah." Reagan answered, "You know something? I'm trying to remember now who was Assad." Hafez Assad, of course, was the president of Syria. At another point, Reagan was reminded that "you had a task force on counter-terrorism. Do you remember? I think Vice President Bush headed it." Reagan answered, "I had forgotten about that." When asked a question about a late July 1985 diary entry about "P.M. Nakasone sending emissary, very hush hush," Reagan needed to be reminded that Yasuhiro Nakasone was then prime minister of Japan. "I don't know what that would have been about," Reagan said. "All right, sir," Walsh said. "I'm very embarrassed," responded Reagan. "I'm sorry. It's like I wasn't president at all." Reagan, however, did acknowledge that he approved a plan to have Israel ship U.S. weapons to Iran and then have Israel restocked by the United States, a key question in the legal issue of whether Reagan violated the Arms Export Control Act in 1985. "I have a dim memory of, through Israel, they would make available the weapons to the Iranians, but we would replace the weapons to Israel," Reagan said. "I do remember that we did something of that kind and we replaced with Israel what they had sent the Iranian people." But Reagan's memory was clearer about non-Iran-contra events that occurred in the same time period. When Walsh tried to question Reagan about a key Iran-contra discussion in Geneva in mid-November 1985, Walsh set the stage by mentioning the summit there with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. The ex-president suddenly launched into a detailed account of the Gorbachev meeting. Gorbachev "replied to our people in the invitation that no, he wanted it in a neutral country. ... He didn't say no to a summit meeting, but he wanted it neutral. We said yes and he was the one that then said by virtue of that, in Switzerland we have the meeting and so we agreed on that. "We had quite a meeting there with him and his people. I can remember a few things about that because of the oddity of it. We decided that the subject of the summit meeting would be mutual reduction of armaments and he agreed on that Then the first meeting with him, real meeting, it was going to be the first meeting in a big home along Lake Geneva and at a table like this only a little longer he and his team on one side and me and my team on the other to deal with the weapons. "I told my people what I was going to do so they wouldn't be surprised. As everybody started to sit down, I looked across the table at him and I said, 'Why don't we let our two teams start this discussion about the reduction of the weaponry and all, and why don't you and I get some fresh air? He was out of his chair before I finished that sentence, and there he was. So, he and I left and we walked about a 150 yards down across the lawn to the lake where there was a beach house, and again I had told our people about this. "It was cold, a real wintry day and that beach house had a big roaring fire going in the fireplace. We entered and in there were the two
[CTRL] Echelon Eavesdrops Around the World Without Warrant or Court Order
-Caveat Lector- Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-URL: http://jya.com/usa-rfa.htm X-URL: http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/stoa_cover.htm X-no-archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Echelon Eavesdrops Around the World Without Warrant or Court Order (Salt Lake Tribune; 05/08/99) You may not have heard of Echelon, but if you've called over to Europe lately, it has probably overheard you. Echelon is a global communications surveillance system that allows our government to listen in on international phone calls and intercept e-mail and faxes, all without a warrant or court order. In addition to spying on criminal and espionage activities, Echelon also has been known to eavesdrop on Princess Diana and Amnesty International. And stealing proprietary secrets from European corporations is one of its stocks in trade. This may all sound like a bad movie by Albert Broccoli -- American spy agency run amok -- but the nightmare scenario is true. According to two recent reports made to the European Parliament, Echelon tries to intercept all international cellular, fiber-optic, microwave and satellite traffic from around the world, including North America. The voice and data communications are then sent through a filtering system that is programmed to look for certain code words and phrases, like names of individuals and organizations. The filters also search for particular people using voice recognition technology. Anything flagged by the filters is then sent to the intelligence agency that requested it. Echelon is a joint operation between the U.S. National Security Agency and the intelligence agencies of England, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. If the reports about the extent of spying are accurate, then American overseas conversations and data transmissions are being intercepted without any form of judicial or legislative oversight. With Echelon, the NSA may have the largest domestic surveillance system of any spy agency in the United States, including the FBI, yet it's subject to none of the legal constraints. So far, Echelon has been operating under the radar screen of the American public. Internationally, though, government watchdogs and the media have been on to it for years. As early as the 1970s, British researchers uncovered information on a burgeoning international surveillance network. They discovered this by simply connecting the dots -- visually connecting the posted microwave towers in the United Kingdom, which were situated on hilltops always in line of sight to each other. After mapping this transmission path, they were arrested and charged with violating Britain's Official Secrets Act. In 1996, Echelon was further revealed in a book by New Zealand author Nicky Hager. Secret Power exposed the massive reach of Echelon and the fact that, as opposed to Cold War spy networks, it was designed to eavesdrop primarily on non- military targets: businesses, political organizations, governments and individuals. Echelon is particularly disturbing to nations that are competing economically with its members. This month, in the Electronic Telegraph International News, Tony Paterson reported from Berlin that the United States is using Echelon to conduct industrial espionage against German businesses. A former NSA employee who refused to be identified appeared on German television last year and disclosed that the American government has spied on the German energy company Enercon. Satellite information was used to monitor phone and computer transmissions between the company's research facility and its production plant. Information on Enercon's secret invention, which turned wind power into electricity much more efficiently, was then turned over to an American firm, according to the NSA source. When Enercon attempted to market its product in this country, it found the American company had already obtained a patent on the idea and sought a court order to ban the sale of Enercon's products. "Washington has instructed its security services to collect information for the benefit of American industry," wrote Paterson. And according to Hager, Echelon has been used to give negotiators an edge in trade talks. For example, he reported that there was stepped-up monitoring of all nations participating in GATT, or General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade, negotiations. But it's not just governments and businesses that have to worry. Apparently, international charities and human rights groups have been targets of Echelon's big ears. A British intelligence operative told London's Observer that both Amnesty International and Christian Aid have been spied on. Before her death, the NSA had been collecting the personal conversations of Princess Diana. An intelligence expert suggested it was possibly because our government didn't like her activism in support of a treaty to ban land mines. Because Echelon is steeped in secrecy, the
[CTRL] US Asks Venezuela-Colombia Buffer
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/ A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/"The Consortium/A - May 8, 1999 US Asks Venezuela-Colombia Buffer By Tony Bianchi The Clinton administration is reaching out to Venezuela's new populist president, testing whether he will let his oil-rich nation be drawn into the front-lines of an alliance against expanding leftist guerrilla armies in Colombia. In March, Gen. Charles Wilhelm, chief of the U.S. Southern Command, broached the idea of a U.S.-run military outpost on Venezuela's frontier with Colombia, according to Venezuelan officials familiar with the discussions. The proposal was raised in private meetings involving Wilhelm, Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez and Chavezs national security advisers. The U.S. rationale for the base would be to block the passage of Colombian guerrillas and drug smugglers into Venezuela. The sources said the United States wanted an American-run base as part of a string of outposts in countries bordering Colombia. When that proposal was flatly rejected, the sources said, Wilhelms delegation countered with a plan for a Venezuelan base that would involve American military advisers and hi-tech U.S. equipment, including a computer center, a satellite link, radar and other electronic hardware. While the Americans would control the technology, Venezuelan officers would have free access to the compound, the sources said. An American source said Chavez agreed to give this second option serious consideration. If approved by Chavez, the Venezuelan base would become one of a small network of U.S. listening posts around Colombia. Venezuelan sources said similar U.S.-supported outposts are in the works in Peru and Ecuador to Colombia's south and Panama to Colombia's northwest. Venezuela, however, has the longest common border with Colombia, stretching some 1,000 miles from mountainous terrain near the Caribbean to the jungles of the Amazon Basin. The fifth country that borders Colombia is Brazil. The base proposal accompanied Wilhelms blunt assessment of the deteriorating situation in Colombia, according to the sources. The general argued that the Venezuelan base was needed because the Colombian army had failed to bring the insurgencies there under control. He said the Colombian conflict now was threatening to spill over into neighboring countries. Retired Venezuelan Gen. Jose Antonio Olavarria said Wilhelm told Chavez that the Colombian army was unlikely to defeat the guerrilla forces that have been fighting for more than 40 years and now control many rural areas. Nor does the Pentagon think that a negotiated settlement between the guerrillas and Colombian President Andres Pastrana is likely. As evidence that the guerrillas have no intention of accepting Pastrana's peace initiatives, the U.S. general cited the Colombian guerrilla role in the slaying of three American environmentalists who were on a scientific mission with the indigenous U'wa tribe in early March. Their bodies were found across the border in Venezuela. A commando of the Revolutionary Forces of Colombia [FARC] admitted shooting the Americans for having "entered the U'wa region without authorization." FARC leaders, however, called the shooting an "error" and announced plans to try the commando for murder. On March 17, at the end of his three-day visit, Wilhelm tempered his public remarks about the Colombian situation. In a press release, Wilhelm simply praised Venezuela's support for the peace process in Colombia. "After talks with President Chavez, I am convinced that Colombia has two friends [the United States and Venezuela] who are ready to help," the general said. Though Chavez reportedly was giving a hard look at Wilhelms information about the Colombian threat, some of Chavezs top aides dismissed Wilhelm's alarms. "All this about guerrilla invasions is a lot of BS invented by the Americans to establish a base in our country," complained Interior Minister Luis Miquilena, a former Venezuelan guerrilla fighter himself. "We have plenty of resources to stop them [the Colombians] from crossing the border." But Foreign Minister Jose Vicente Rangel sounded at least sympathetic to Wilhelm's warnings. "We have very disturbing information which leads us to believe that the Colombian armed conflict tends to get more complicated [and] we have to take the firm determination to stop the contamination, but it is practically impossible to prevent certain Colombian violent manifestations from spilling into Venezuelan territory." To demonstrate Venezuelan resolve against that spreading violence, Chavez himself donned a military uniform and traveled to the border. His message was that Venezuelan troops would take action to seal off the frontier against incursions by the warring Colombian factions. But Colombian authorities are clearly suspicious of Chavez. They have accused Venezuela of granting sanctuary to Colombian guerrillas, especially in the
[CTRL] [7] Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Secret Germany - Stauffenberg and the Mystical Crusade Against Hitler Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh,(C) 1994 PENGUIN BOOKS Published by the Penguin Group Penguin Books Ltd. 27 Wrights Lane London W8 3TZ, England Penguin Books Ltd, Registered Offices: Harmondsworth, Middlesex, England First published by Jonathan Cape 1994 Published in Penguin Books 1995 3 5 7 9 10 8 6 4 AD rights reserved The moral right of the author has been asserted Printed in England by Clays Ltd, St Ives plc Except in the United States of America, this book is sold subject to the condition that it shall not, by way of trade or otherwise, be Lent re-sold, hired out, or otherwise circulated without the publisher's prior consent in any form of binding or cover other than that in which it is published and without a similar condition including this condition being imposed on the subsequent purchaser --[6]-- 6 The New Reich Whatever personal chord it may have touched in him, 'der Bamberger Reiter' did, in fact, portend something of Claus von Stauffenberg's destiny. On I April 1926, at the age of nineteen, he entered the regiment in which his uncle had served: the 17th Bavarian Cavalry, also known as the Bamberg Cavalry and with its depot in that town. Having been so drastically reduced in size by the Treaty of Versailles, the Reichswehr was all the more stringent in its training programmes. Candidates for officers' commissions had first to serve in the ranks as ordinary soldiers, and the young aristocrat did not always find this congenial. 'For our kind,' he wrote in a letter to his father a few weeks after his induction, 'it is not easy to play among the common people for long periods.'[1] He also stated that he had never expected the early phases of his military service to be enjoyable; and there was never any question of his failing to 'stick it out'. He was to be promoted to lance-corporal on 18 August 1927; to NCO on 15 October 1927; to sergeant on 1 August 1928; to staff-sergeant on 1 August 1929; to second lieutenant on 1 January , and to full lieutenant on 1 May 1933. Among other things, his association with the Bamberg Cavalry allowed Stauffenberg to indulge his love of horses. He had a real passion and an inborn skill for riding and handling horses. When he was billeted on a farmer, he one day came across a young mare among the draught-horses, 'an enchanting personality', as he put it. He bought the mare, trained her to perform the passage and levade and won a prize with her in the difficult dressage test.[2] In later years, he was to buy shares, along with his father-in-law, in a foal named Jagd, which he chose from a stud farm and trained personally. He was to become one of Germany's most prominent horsemen, standing as a candidate for the country's Olympic dressage team. And a decade later, as war drew nearer, he was to prepare for the Staff College in Berlin two markedly different papers that reflected the contradictory aspects of his character, one oriented presciently towards the future, the other rooted firmly in tradition and the past. The first of these papers was a striking and revolutionary advocacy of the deployment of paratroops in a combat role - something unheard of at the time, yet soon to be a' cornerstone of the most advanced military thinking and implemented by the Wehrmacht in such theatres as Holland and Crete The second paper, with an archaic chivalry verging on quaintness, passionately advocated and tried to rationalise the continued use of mounted cavalry in contemporary warfare. In October 1927, as a candidate for a commission, Stauffenberg was posted to the infantry training school in Dresden, where he first met his later co-conspirator, Merz von Quirnheim, and began to learn Russian. In 1928, he received a new posting, to the cavalry school at Hannover, where only the most highly rated sergeants were sent. During the winter of 1927-8, he travelled frequently to Berlin, where he would meet Berthold and Alexander and attend poetry readings at Stefan George's apartment. At the cavalry school in Hannover, he first met one of his future divisional commanders, Major (later Lieutenant-General) Friedrich-Wilhelm, Freiherr von Loeper, who, on the basis of his glowing reports, nominated Stauffenberg course leader. In this capacity, he quickly earned the confidence of both colleagues and superiors. He was an expert at settling differences, acting as a go-between and smoothing out quarrels; he looked for and found the good side to everybody and had an extraordinary knack of making the best of everything.[3] And again, his fierce tenacity and concentration of will displayed itself. He himself had originally wondered whether the illnesses which had debilitated him in childhood might impede his military career. Some of these ailments still occasionally recurred, and as late as 1931, he was compelled to spend time at a spa hospital. All the same, he refused to let
Re: [CTRL] COVERUP! COVERUP! COVERUP! [gotta read this!]
-Caveat Lector- So, they've made a big mistake and ... 1. they don't want you to know 2. they don't know themselves 3. they don't give a shit 4. they can legally prove that they haven't 5. they can legally prevent you from proving it 6. they made the 'mistake' intentionally These people are almost completely unaccountable and unassailable The only possible way to deal with them is to move and integrate information faster and in greater volume than they can. There is nothing new in the above definitions of human self interest, which shows today that this Roman Empire still has the vulnerability of complacency, and lead in its pipes. Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/26/99 1:33:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May be they want China to be strong enough to replace the USSR as a cold war adversary? Howard Davis That is part of the paradigm most assuredly. In a world devoid of powerful "enemies" in which the US can justify huge secret budgets for war materiel and clandestine operations it would be only natural for us to try and make a new "enemy" that we can point to for such things. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 5/26/99 2:03:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which then brings up another point, just what the hell are we giving so many good deals to the RED Chinese, when they are IN FACT OUR ENEMY?! Money is thicker than blood. Of course you are right, and lest we forget, which I am apt to do on occasion, there are many paradigms at work here and it is important to remember that. Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN Statement of Lt. Jack Daly [hot issue of back burner]
-Caveat Lector- "FREE SPEECH! Use it, or lose it!" --- Ken Hamblin http://www.hamblin.com/ Statement of Lt. Jack Daly INTRODUCTION Mr. Chairman, and esteemed members of the Committee, good afternoon. I would like to thank you for providing me this very rare opportunity to appear before this distinguished panel today. It is a great honor and truly a privilege to be included in a process that will determine our nations policies. I sincerely hope that my appearance here today will prevent what has happened to me from happening to any other service man or woman, I would not wish the pain I have experienced for the last 22 months on anyone. This statement is submitted for inclusion in the Congressional Record of the 106th congress of the United States of America. The purpose of this statement is to provide evidence regarding the use of lasers as weapons by documenting the personal experience of Lieutenant Jack Daly, United States Navy, based on the facts surrounding the events of April 4th, 1997 and its aftermath. An effort will be made to show that notwithstanding current agreements and treaties, specifically "Protocol IV of the 1980 Certain Conventional Weapons Convention (CCWC)" agreed to in 1995 and entered into force July 30th, 1998; lasers still pose a significant threat as inhumane weapons. Despite the fact that "Protocol IV of the CCWC" bans the use of blinding lasers, loopholes in the definition of the term "blinding laser" are being exploited. By definition a laser is only considered banned under the current treaty if it causes permanent blindness; however, lasers not included under this definition are still capable of causing serious injuries and unnecessary suffering as well as being potentially blinding. Some of the devices are considered as being designed for commercial vice military usage, yet when directed at a human being can cause indiscriminate effects which can result in permanent damage to the human eye. Laser devices labeled as "dazzlers" may in fact actually be blinding lasers in disguise designed with the intent of causing permanent blindness. Even the laser pointer, an inexpensive and popular briefing and presentation tool has become, in effect, a weapon, due to its injurious effects. Numerous documented cases regarding the use of lasers against aircraft, civilians and military personnel exist, as well as does an all too lengthy list of the injuries that have resulted from the accidental and intentional misuse of the these devices. As a direct result of numerous reports of lasers being directed at commercial airliners during takeoff and landings, the concern has been raised that this in fact may be a new form of terrorism. Lasers are easily obtainable and can be self-manufactured weapons in the terrorist arsenal which essentially can effect a soft kill solution and leave virtually no detectable evidence. Other laser systems are in fact very beneficial to society such as those that are used in industry and medicine. Some military applications have also proven their usefulness; in a defensive role as envisioned in the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI); the development of laser guided precision munitions has aided in minimizing collateral damage, unnecessary injury and loss of life. Lasers in and of themselves do not pose a threat. It is how they are employed that causes the greatest risk. Certain laser devices can and do represent a clear and present danger to not only military equipment and personnel but also to the civilian population as well. Ignoring these events serves no purpose other than increasing our vunerablity to them and promoting their continued development and use in an illegal manner. It is imperative that the United States take a firm stand against the proliferation of these hazardous, inhumane laser devices and protest their use as weapons. PERSONAL EXPERIENCE My name is Lieutenant Jack Daly. I am an active duty regular U.S. Naval Intelligence Officer who, prior to my transfer to San Diego last year, was stationed at the Canadian Pacific Maritime Forces Command Base, Esquimalt, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. My intelligence liaison assignment with the Canadian Armed Forces was under the auspices of the Chief of Naval Operations/Intelligence Directorate (CNO/N2) Foreign Intelligence Liaison Officer (FILO) program, managed by the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI). On 4 April 1997, I, along with a Canadian Air Force pilot, Captain Patrick Barnes, were wounded aboard a Canadian CH-124 helicopter when we were lazed (shot/targeted with a laser) while on an ONI tasked surveillance mission. This surveillance mission was tasked against the Russian merchant ship KAPITAN MAN, which was located five nautical miles north of Port Angeles, Washington in the Strait of Juan de Fuca. As a result of this lazing, both Captain Barnes and I suffered irreparable eye damage resulting in permanent retinal damage (see appendix A). Captain Barnes has
[CTRL] Treachery in Our Midst
-Caveat Lector- Treachery in Our Midst, A Biblical response to 'Blinded by Might' (a new book by Cal Thomas and Ed Dobson-- no relation to Dr. James Dobson) by Randall Terry, founder of Operation Rescue -- It is with grief I tell you that we are once again being betrayed and sold out to our ethical, cultural and political opponents - by Christian leaders. There is treachery in our midst. I have just finished reading the new book, Blinded By Might; Can the Religious Right Save America. Have you seen it, or read it? Blinded By Might was written by Cal Thomas, syndicated newspaper columnist and radio commentator, and Ed Dobson, pastor of Calvary Church in Grand Rapids Michigan, (no relation to Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family). Both men were high level leaders in the Moral Majority. Both were close associates of Jerry Falwell. Their book is a "mia-culpa" for having been involved in the political realm, and a challenge to the Church, Christian pastors, and individual Christians to abandon the culture wars. I know this is hard to believe. I still can hardly believe it. But I have read the book slowly and thoroughly. That is why I am so grieved. I give you Cal Thomas' own words: "We have tried to build a strong case for the church to lay down its impotent weapons of political activism in exchange for the greatest force we have to change the world: the gospel of Jesus Christ." (Page 191) I believe this book is in many ways more dangerous than the child-pornography at Barnes and Noble; and certainly more deplorable (in content and aim) than some of the most villainous books of history. Furthermore, the interview the authors did on 60 Minutes was tragic. I ask you for the opportunity to present my case, quote from their book, and then refute their arguments using scripture and logic. Allow me to make some opening remarks. The Grief First, writing this is grievous because these men are Christians. They are brothers in Christ, and I do not relish drawing swords with Christians. Secondly, however grievous, I must respond. Too much is at stake. These men are using out-of-context Bible verses and fatally flawed logic to emasculate and disembowel the Church, her pastors, and ultimately the rank and file. They seek to gut us of courage and vision; they seek to pervert or dismiss our duty; and they seek to justify cowardice, retreat, and escape - all in the name of Christ. Third - I must confess, I am angered: They have falsely represented Jesus, and they have spoken treacherously concerning our duties as Christians. They have said Jesus is not political - yet the scriptures teach he is King of kings, Ruler of the nations, that all thrones were created by Him and for Him, that the government is upon His shoulder, that the increase of His government and peace will have no end. He warns kings and judges to obey him, or he will strike them down if His wrath flares up (Psalm 2). They have said Jesus does not have a "political agenda" concerning laws and government and the judiciary - yet the scriptures show that God has clear laws and guidelines for thieves, murderers, rapists, and those committing assault; The word of God deals at length with legal/judicial questions. He says of Himself there is one Lawmaker - Him. I am grieved that they have changed Christ, the Man of war, into the cosmic coward; that they have painted the one who has a two-edged sword and a rod of iron into one bearing articles of surrender; they have denied the political and cultural crown rights of King Jesus, and have made Christ, His law, and His church subservient to wicked politicians and governments. I am distressed that they use the Bible to further their agenda of glorious defeat, courageous cowardice, and commanded surrender. Like Satan's temptation of Christ in the wilderness, they misquote the Bible for an unbiblical end. They use out-of-context verses and horrible Bible interpretation, while they ignore volumes of Scriptures dealing with our duty in the civil realm. In this dark hour, the church militant - in other words Christians and Christianity that are sweeping and victorious in their sphere and authority; a Christianity that serves, leads, and prevails in the political, judicial, educational, business and cultural realms - the church militant is under attack. Obviously we are attacked by the enemies of God - but far worse; we are under siege from theological traitors and assassins in our midst. These are those that misuse God's Word like a surgeon's knife to castrate us of our will to fight, and disembowel us of our hope for victory. We expect cries for our surrender from the enemy's camp. However, the cries of "Amen," and the raising of white flags tattooed with Bible verses from our chaplains is something new. The Red Cross used to be our rear guard, caring for the wounded: under the leadership of Cal Thomas and Ed Dobson, it would be the vanguard, announcing our intention to lay down our arms.
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN [pentagon cover-up]
-Caveat Lector- Thursday February 11, 1999 Navy officer criticizes probe into eye-injuring laser incident Ed Offley/Seattle Post-Intelligencer Lt. Jack Daly is looking for some answers to a mysterious laser incident 22 months ago that left him in constant pain and has wrecked a once-promising career in U.S. naval intelligence. Daly was serving as a liaison officer to the Canadian Maritime Defense Force at Esquimalt, B.C., in the spring of 1997 when he went on a routine surveillance flight to photograph a Russian freighter suspected by U.S. and Canadian officials of snooping on the Trident ballistic missile submarines based at Bangor, Wash. While photographing the M/V Kapitan Man, Daly and the Canadian helicopter pilot, Capt. Pat Barnes, were struck by a laser beam that caused serious lesions to their eyes. ``I haven't had a pain-free day since the incident,'' Daly said in a recent interview. Today, Daly is scheduled to tell his story to a congressional committee examining the threat to military personnel from lasers and other high-tech weapons. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., has summoned the intelligence and research chiefs from each of the four armed services to testify about high-tech weaponry and the Pentagon's proposed countermeasures. Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services procurement subcommittee, is also concerned about alleged espionage by Russian commercial ships inside U.S. waters, according to his press secretary, Harald Stavanas. Daly, a 40-year-old Philadelphia native, says he is glad to have the opportunity to testify about laser threats, particularly since two U.S. military personnel were similarly injured in Bosnia last fall. But his satisfaction is bittersweet. ``My career is down the toilet,'' said Daly, who enlisted in the Navy in 1982 and won an officer's commission seven years later. He said his downfall came after he and Canadian officials submitted incident reports on the April 4, 1997, laser firing. The Kapitan Man was five miles west of Port Angeles in the eastbound shipping lanes of the Strait of Juan de Fuca when the Canadian helicopter bearing Daly and Barnes approached to take pictures. By the time the laser burn symptoms appeared the next morning, the ship had entered the Port of Tacoma to unload and take on cargo, Daly and Barnes said in separate interviews. The Pentagon ordered a search of the ship but the boarding team didn't appear until more than 72 hours had gone by, Daly said. No evidence of a laser was found. A Pentagon investigation confirmed the officers had been struck by a laser beam but said it could not determine if the laser was fired from the Russian ship. Daly claims the investigation into the incident was poorly conducted and that it tried to disprove that the two men had been injured by a laser. He filed an official report challenging its findings. Since then, Daly says, he has been passed over for promotion and faces the likelihood of having to retire from active duty this year. Pentagon officials would not comment on whether there was political pressure to warn the Russians of the search and downplay the incident, as Daly claims. Daly alleged the Pentagon and the Canadian military halted the surveillance flights of the Russian ships immediately after the 1997 laser incident. 367Memo: One senior member of the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time told the Post-Intelligencer there was ``a great desire to have this incident go away'' because the Clinton administration was concerned about its relations with Moscow. Daly has undergone extensive treatment for the burns to his eyes at the Brook Army Medical Center in Texas. He says it is not known whether his eyes will fully heal or whether the pain from the lesions will subside. http://www.spokane.net/stories/1999/Feb/11/S529586.asp Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN [cover-up finalized!]
-Caveat Lector- June 30 Laser attack on Canadians By G.F. Bain Washington, D.C. On May 20 I posted a note "Russian Lasers and Questions Unasked". The Pentagon has now issued a "final" report on the incident - as follows (Washington Post 6/27): "The Pentagon disclosed last month that it believed the Russian ship Kapitan Man fired a laser at a Canadian military helicopter on April 4, causing temporary eye damage to the pilot and an American officer on board...two medical examinations of the officer, Lt. Jack Daly, concluded that his injury was consistent with damage that would be expected from exposure to a low powered laser.. 'There is no evidence, however, to pinpoint the source of the laser'..'Specifically the investigation could not link the officer's eye injury to a laser on the Kapitan Man or to any other location." "You have to describe this as a mystery", said Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon. This is dissimulation of the highest order inasmuch as the injury was sustained during an overflight of the ship, which was monitoring the departure of a U.S. nuclear sub from Bremmerton, and no other ships were in the area. The photos of the incident have NOT been released. The incident occurred during the U.S./Russian negotiations about NATO expansion and were, in my view, deliberately played down by U.S. and Canadian authorities to avoid embarrassment to those negotiations. I received a communication from a Vancouver maritime lawyer denying the incident. Ted Campbell Look West, Young Man, and Woman G.F. Bain Laser attack on Canadians Ted Campbell Legitimate lasers Peter F. Dawson Defending Glen Clark is defending Canada Back to the top of the page We welcome your feedback. Copyright © 1996, The Globe and Mail Company ® All rights reserved. http://forum.theglobeandmail.com/globenet/globeandmail.our-place-in-the-worl d/article/_3C5p6unv$o8s_40forum.theglobeandmail.com_3E.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which then brings up another point, just what the hell are we giving so many good deals to the RED Chinese, when they are IN FACT OUR ENEMY?! Money is thicker than blood. Of course you are right, and lest we forget, which I am apt to do on occasion, there are many paradigms at work here and it is important to remember that. Just how 'red' China is now is debatable - AFAIK the place is run by a clique of monopolist capitalist moneygrubbers, with no pretense of Maoism, Marxism, etc. But I digress. Of COURSE "money is thicker than water", it always HAS been for arms merchants, the "masters of war". Murkan munitions dealers have sold to hostiles for a LONG long time - this wasn't invented by the Dixiecrat Clinton. And the US has ramped-up into major-league arms-dealing status over the last few administrations, like since Eisenhower at least. But now we get down to the conspiracy stuff. If China DID steal a slew of critical nuclear secrets, we'd better nuke'em, a pre-emptive strike, to make sure they don't do us first. If we don't have the national will for that move, then strong measures are indicated. Since almost any Murkan could serve as a channel for such secrets, the federal gov't needs to increase surveillance on EVERYONE. Tap all phones; no strong crypto; no unmonitored assembly on citizens, non-citizens, and/or possible foreign agents. Open all mail; search all cars, computers, homes, offices; plug all leaks. But maybe China didn't steal anything, just assembled information that was publicly available; most of the info cited in the Cox report WAS openly published. So this whole Chinese spy scenario is just a script, a justification to impose the fascist restriction I mentioned above. Who organized this? Who's pushing the story? What do they stand to gain? As long as the US economy stays strong-looking, the GOP has about zero chance of winning presidential and congressional elections in 2000. Think about it. The only way they can retake control is to wreck the country, demoralize the population, create panic. Just as the Oklahoma City bombing was part of the GOP plan to dismantle the federal gov't, building by building, so this China flap is a cynical political ploy to terrorize US voters. Bother... * no amphibians were eviscerated during production of this email * DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN [dod cohen pledges investigation]
-Caveat Lector- Thursday, 27-May-1999 00:01:24 CDT Laser Incident Sheds Insufficient Light WASHINGTON, DC--Cover-up. Fishy. Suspect. That's how the news media characterized an April 4 incident off the coast of Washington state when a US Navy intelligence officer flying onboard a Canadian helicopter was evidently injured by a laser onboard the Russian trawler Kapitan Man. The confrontation wasn't revealed until The Washington Times reported it on May 14. State Department spokesman Nicholas Burns then disclosed that the United States had "protested" the incident "forcefully" to the Russian government. "I would be concerned any time there might be a violation of agreements pertaining to the use of lasers," Secretary of Defense William Cohen said, pledging a renewed investigation. Cohen's order went out because six weeks after the incident the particulars of what happened remain ambiguous. An authoritative source who was involved in examining the helicopter crew reports that the Navy lieutenant received "mild retinal injury" characteristic of laser exposure. The source called the injury "minimal but conclusive." (The crew was examined by a Canadian doctor the day of the incident and then flown to Brooks Air Force Base, San Antonio, TX.) Search finds no laser Yet when the Coast Guard conducted a standard search of the ship on April 7 after it anchored in Tacoma, WA, no laser turned up. And according to a US Navy officer intimately involved in the crisis, though there was photographic evidence of a "red spot" on the bridge of the Russian ship, some interpreted it as the port running light rather than a laser. "It happened, because the guy is injured," a State Department lawyer says. "But it's not the Cold War, we have to look at other expla-nations, and because we can't prove anything, it's hard to know what agreements apply." Maybe the Russians threw the laser overboard, sources say, or even transferred it to another Russian ship moored adjacent to it in Tacoma. As part of the protest lodged by Washington, Moscow is being urged to cooperate in an investigation. Background The Soviet use of lasers to thwart American surveillance was a staple of Cold War cat-and-mouse games during the 1980s. The worst illuminations occurred in October 1983 and October 1989, according to a heavily censored report of the Defense Intelligence Agency. The hazardous illuminations led in part to the Agreement on Prevention of Dangerous Military Activities (DMA), concluded in 1989 during a period of unprecedented military-to-military cooperation. One of four dangerous military activities it identifies is "using a laser in such a manner that its radiation could cause harm to personnel . . . " However, the DMA only applies to navies. Similarly, the 1973 Incidents at Sea Agreement, which says that ships "shall not simulate attacks," only applies to the high seas and may not cover ship-against-aircraft incidents. Though Pentagon spokesmen hinted to the media that the 1995 protocol banning the use of lasers to permanently blind was somehow applicable, there is no connection. Only the general seagoing rules of the road and the law-of-the-sea admonition against creating hazards cover both the circumstances and geography. Though Russian trawlers are not known to carry lasers, lasers are finding increasing civilian applications at sea. The April 4 incident, if it indeed involved a laser being shot from a Russian ship, is an example of what falls through the cracks. Recognizing loopholes, the USA is already involved in quiet discussions with the Russian government to strengthen incidents-at-sea restrictions, including discussions regarding lasers. Military lasers, because they signify futuristic capabilities, also tend to be cloaked in secrecy. This fact, and the Cold War history of potentially dangerous laser incidents, ultimately fueled speculation and distrust in the news media. Ultimately, human safety suffers.--William Arkin, Contributing Editor http://www.laserfocus.com/lfw/archive/1997/06/0623news.html Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN [Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-CA]
-Caveat Lector- Congressman Hunter in the News... Printed in The San Diego Union-Tribune February 12, 1999 Hunter backs local Navy officer nearly blinded by Russian laser by Otto Kreisher COPLEY NEWS SERVICE WASHINGTON -- A San Diego-based Navy officer whose eyes were damaged by an apparent laser beam from a suspected Russian spy ship said yesterday he was injured by what was an act of war, terrorism or criminal conduct. But, Lt. Jack Daly told a congressional panel, nothing happened to the Russians while his Navy career is in jeopardy because of official objections to his claims. However, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-El Cajon, praised Daly for his "good service to the country" and said he would insist that the Navy treat the eye damage "as a service-related injury in every aspect, including its effect on his career." Hunter, who led a successful fight last year to keep a Chinese shipping company from leasing space at the former Long Beach Naval Station, also said he might try to bar Russian ships from ports with sensitive military installations. The incident involving Daly occurred April 4, 1997, in the Strait of Juan de Fuca, near the U.S. submarine base at Bangor, Wash. The Navy intelligence officer was flying in a Canadian helicopter monitoring the Russian merchant ship Kapitan Man, which appeared to be shadowing a U.S. ballistic missile submarine. A suspected laser device fired from the Kapitan Man left him and the Canadian pilot "victims of what could be argued was a hostile act in an undeclared war, an act of terrorism, and, at a minimum, a federal crime," Daly told Hunter's House Armed Services subcommittee on procurement. He and Canadian Air Force Capt. Patrick Barnes have since suffered persistent pain and deteriorating eyesight, Daly said. Although the use of a laser that blinds is a violation of international laws, "no formal or thorough investigation has ever been conducted into the incident," said Daly, now with Amphibious Group 3. Daly said officials from the State Department and the White House insisted on notifying the Russians that the Kapitan Man would be inspected a day later and severely restricted the search. No laser device was found. The Poway resident said he has been accused of fabricating the entire incident, his loyalty has been questioned and he was passed over for promotion. Daly, 40, began his service as a Navy enlisted man and has 16 years of service. If he again is denied promotion this year, he could be forced from active duty, less than four years short of eligibility for retirement pay. But Hunter said he would speak directly to Adm. Jay Johnson, the chief of naval operations, to insist that Daly's career be protected. Hunter said Daly's experience led him to hold the hearing, which examined protections for military personnel from unconventional threats. Senior officers at the hearing displayed the latest protective devices, including a variety of goggles or visors to protect against lasers. But none of those protective devices was available to Daly or to the U.S. Army helicopter crewmen who were injured by a laser device over Bosnia last year. They now are being supplied to troops where the threat of laser attack exists, officials said. http://www.house.gov/hunter/LtDaly.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [ma] 1999 G8 Summit Online: Open Registration
-Caveat Lector- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- /\/\eta-axio/\/\ Mailing List -=-=-=- Source: a-infos Sender: belgrave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Look at this! Go ask some irritating questions. Don't tell 'em I sent you. johnk Forward: eCollege.com (www.ecollege.com) and the G8 Research Group at the University of Toronto (www.g7.utoronto.ca) are joining forces to present The 1999 G8 Summit Online (http://www.g8online.org). We invite you to participate in this unprecedented interactive dialog with the world's top leaders at the G8 Summit. Attendees will interact on the Internet with others around the world, debating issues such as the monetary and financial architecture of the global economy, economic and social policies of an evolving world, and educational needs for a world community. eCollege.com with the research leaders at the University of Toronto bring you exclusive content via the power of the Internet - direct from the G8 Summit. This special Internet event is open to the world. Professors, students, media and all interested parties will have direct access to quality analysis of Summit history and current proceedings provided by top scholars from the G8 Research Group at the University of Toronto. Registration is OPEN NOW and FREE of charge. There is room for only 5000 participants - be one of them. Register now at http://www.g8online.org and be part of one classroom, one world. Thank you for your time. Colt Alton Project Director [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.g8online.org The A-Infos News Service COMMANDS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] REPLIES: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ainfos.ca/ INFO: http://www.ainfos.ca/org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- /\/\eta-axio/\/\ Mailing List ~~ PROFIT COPYRIGHT ~~ a [S]F[M]H[P] Project http://sfmhp.pasdex.com.au/meta-axiom -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sarah on the radio Thurssay, Idaho
-Caveat Lector- Those of you who live in (or near) Idaho may be interested in the following: I'll be appearing on radio tomorrow, Thursday, May 27 at 5:30 PM Mountain Time to discuss gun control at the Olympics. My hosts will be Halli and Trish Stone. The show is heard on the following stations: KID 590 AM - Idaho Falls KWIK 1240 AM - Pocatello KLIX 1310 AM - Twin Falls KIDO 630 AM - Boise The show does take callers, so please feel free to call! I hope to hear from at least a few of you! Sarah Sarah Thompson, M.D. http://www.therighter.com PROTEST the Gun Ban! NO-lympics 2002! Check out http://www.therighter.com/nolympics And now you can link directly to the Nolympics page and join the nolympics mail list! - To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the line unsubscribe righter-list in the body. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Root of All
-Caveat Lector- News Law From www.lawnewsnetwork.com Begin excerpt Quayle: Lawyers Are The Root of All Evil Kelly Flaherty The Recorder/Cal Law May 20, 1999 Presidential hopeful Dan Quayle appears to have shifted his target from Murphy Brown to Ally McBeal as the reason for the erosion of family values in America. At a speech to the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco Wednesday, Quayle blamed much of the country's problems on a "legal aristocracy" that he said has undermined parental authority, school discipline and religious freedom. "Every baby boomer with a teenager has heard the words 'I can sue you, Mom' or 'I can sue you, Dad. Where do they get that? From society," Quayle said, adding that the legal system has helped erode the role of religion in American life. Copyright ©1999 NLP IP Company -- American Lawyer Media. All rights reserved. End excerpt Begin Fed. Court Doesn't Buy Into Plaintiff's Repressed Memory Claim Picture Discovery rule not applicable to toll statute of limitations Danielle Rodier Pennsylvania Law Weekly May 17, 1999 The 3rd Circuit has essentially told a plaintiff to forget about pursuing her 20-year-old claim against the psychiatrist she said abused her in therapy sessions for 19 years. The plaintiff claimed the discovery rule applied to toll the statute of limitations because she did not remember that the doctor sexually abused her until years later, nor did she realize until after she left the doctor's care how inappropriate his treatment was. But the court said it did not believe that argument because the plaintiff openly admitted through the years that the doctor was hurting her and many other people the woman had contact with alerted her to the same problem. Copyright ©1999 NLP IP Company -- American Lawyer Media. All rights reserved. End AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN ['lazing']
-Caveat Lector- Russia Reform Monitor No. 591, February 22, 1999 American Foreign Policy Council, Washington, D.C. White House Wanted to Free Russian Spy Ship after Laser Attack; Lt. Daly Accuses Navy Intelligence of Helping Cover Up Incident February 11 Lt. Jack Daly, the U.S. Navy officer who suffered permanent eye damage when shot by a laser from a Russian spy ship in American territorial waters in 1997, tells a congressional panel about the attack and the subsequent cover-up. The Clinton administration wanted to avoid holding Moscow accountable. The panel is chaired by Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA). What follows is a summary of Lt. Daly's full testimony: http://www.afpc.org/issues/daly.htm Lt. Daly was stationed as an intelligence liaison officer with the Canadian Armed Forces on a program managed by the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence to monitor Russian and other spy ships that operated against American strategic ballistic missile submarines and aircraft carrier battle groups in the waters of Washington State and British Columbia. On April 4, 1997, Lt. Daly was ordered on a helicopter surveillance mission to track the Russian cargo vessel Kapitan Man. In American waters, the Kapitan Man was tracking the U.S.S. Ohio, a strategic ballistic missile submarine based at Bremerton, Washington. Lt. Daly and his Canadian pilot, Capt. Patrick Barnes, suffered permanent eye damage when the Kapitan Man fired a laser at -- "lazed" -- the helicopter. A U.S. inspection in 1993 found antisubmarine warfare (ASW) equipment on the Kapitan Man, and a subsequent U.S. inspection found hidden sonobuoys. The FESCO line is known to conduct work against the United States for Russia's GRU military intelligence, according to Lt. Daly. The State Department and the White House National Security Council (NSC) took charge of the case: "Documentation exists that reveals that Mr. Robert Bell of the NSC and then-Ambassador-designate [now current Ambassador] to Russia, James Collins, were involved in the decision making process on how this incident was to be handled." Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and President Clinton were both briefed and consulted, Lt. Daly says. The U.S. notified the Russian Embassy that evening of its intent to board the Kapitan Man, giving the Russian crew 24 hours' notice. "Additional reports indicate that initially the NSC and State Department wanted to allow the Kapitan Man to leave Tacoma, WA without being searched at all, but insistence by the Pentagon delayed the departure and forced a search." "The State Dept. directed . . . [that] the combined U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Naval intelligence team limit the actual time of the search to no more than two hours and further restricted it to 'common areas' of Kapitan Man only," according to Lt. Daly. The Customs Service and INS were not warned of this, "further limiting the search by minimizing the jurisdictional benefits of these two law enforcement organizations." [Editor's note: When the Washington Times broke the story in 1997, the State Department declined to say whether the Kapitan Man was a spy ship.] "As a result of this 'lazing,' both Captain Barnes and I suffered irreparable eye damage resulting in permanent retinal damage. . . . Captain Barnes has been permanently grounded as a result of this incident and has lost all flight qualifications. He will never fly again. The statement that the Pentagon released to the press on June 26th, 1997, that our injuries were healed, was erroneous. . . ." [Editor's note: This misleading statement was released by same Pentagon office that employed Monica Lewinsky and illegally leaked derogatory information from the private personnel file of presidential critic Linda Tripp.] Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) officials "opposed and misrepresented" important "factual findings, medical evidence of the world renowned experts in laser bio-effects from the U.S. Army Medical Research Detachment (USAMRD)" at Brooks Air Force Base in Texas, according to Lt. Daly. "ONI altered and ignored evidence, failed to consult experts within and outside the organization and then published false results of their 'investigation' [the report of which] was publicly released via the Internet and the press." --J. Michael Waller Copyright © 1999, American Foreign Policy Council. All Rights Reserved. http://www.afpc.org/rrm/rrm591.htm Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That
[CTRL] KAPITAN MAN [Lt.Daly's career is down the toilet,]
-Caveat Lector- Laser beam destroys a Navy career Officer seeks answers about high-tech arms Wednesday, February 10, 1999 By ED OFFLEY SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER MILITARY REPORTER Lt. Jack Daly is looking for some answers to a mysterious laser incident 22 months ago that left him in constant pain and has wrecked a once-promising career in U.S. naval intelligence. Daly was serving as a liaison officer to the Canadian Maritime Defense Force at Esquimalt, B.C., in the spring of 1997 when he went on a routine surveillance flight to photograph a Russian freighter suspected by U.S. and Canadian officials of snooping on the Trident ballistic missile submarines based at Bangor. While photographing the M/V Kapitan Man, Daly and the Canadian helicopter pilot, Capt. Pat Barnes, were struck by a laser beam that caused serious lesions to their eyes. "I haven't had a pain-free day since the incident," Daly said in a recent interview. Tomorrow, Daly will tell his story to a congressional committee examining the threat to military personnel from lasers and other high-tech weapons. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., has summoned the intelligence and research chiefs from each of the four armed services to testify about high-tech weaponry and the Pentagon's proposed countermeasures. Hunter, chairman of the House Armed Services procurement subcommittee, is also concerned about alleged espionage by Russian commercial ships inside U.S. waters, according to his press secretary, Harald Stavanas. Daly, a 40-year-old Philadelphia native, says he is glad to have the opportunity to testify about laser threats, particularly since two U.S. military personnel in Bosnia were similarly injured in Bosnia last fall. But his satisfaction is bittersweet. "My career is down the toilet," said Daly, who enlisted in the Navy in 1982 and won an officer's commission seven years later. He said his downfall came after he and Canadian officials submitted incident reports on the April 4, 1997, laser firing. The Kapitan Man was five miles west of Port Angeles in the eastbound shipping lanes of the Strait of Juan de Fuca when the Canadian helicopter bearing Daly and Barnes approached to take pictures. By the time the laser burn symptoms appeared the next morning, the ship had entered the Port of Tacoma to unload and take on cargo, Daly and Barnes said in separate interviews. The Pentagon ordered a search of the ship but the boarding team didn't appear until more than 72 hours had gone by, Daly said. No evidence of a laser was found. A subsequent Pentagon investigation confirmed the two officers had been struck by a laser beam but said it could not determine whether the laser was fired from the Russian ship. Daly claims the investigation into the incident was poorly conducted and that it tried to disprove that the two men had been injured by a laser. He filed an official report challenging its findings. Since then, Daly says, he has been passed over for promotion and faces the likelihood of having to retire from active duty later this year. Pentagon officials would not comment on whether there was political pressure to warn the Russians of the search and downplay the incident, as Daley claims. Several other intelligence officials, who requested anonymity, have said the Kapitan Man and other ships in the Russian Far Eastern Shipping Co. fleet have attempted to track Trident submarines ever since Puget Sound ports were opened to vessels from the former Soviet Union eight years ago. Rep. Norm Dicks, D-Wash., says he has received briefings confirming the Pentagon's suspicion. Daly alleged the Pentagon and the Canadian military halted the surveillance flights of the Russian ships immediately after the 1997 laser incident. One senior member of the staff of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the time told the Post-Intelligencer there was "a great desire to have this incident go away" because the Clinton administration was concerned about its relations with Moscow. Daly has undergone extensive treatment for the burns to his eyes at the Brook Army Medical Center in Texas. He says it is not known whether his eyes will fully heal or whether the pain from the lesions will subside. http://www.seattle-pi.com/national/lase10.shtml Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990526d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Several gun-control foes were shot during production of this bulletin. * SKEPTINEWS CONTRIBUTORS/EDITORS WANTED * TOMORROW MAY/WILL BE TOO LATE * _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Secret exposure. (BBC) Former East German dissidents claim the secret police exposed them to radiation. Leukemia a major weapon of the Stasi: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_352000/352461.stm # Pressure produces gene therapy breakthrough. (BBC) Putting organs under pressure is key to a remarkable new approach to gene therapy, the medical treatment which works by altering a patient's DNA. Squeeze the wheeze: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_352000/352358.stm : "That which does not kill us, only leaves us feeling bad." Is stress good? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Teacher Loses Job After Class Loses Clothes. (Reuters) - A Vancouver community college thought an instructor went too far when he persuaded his class to strip naked, although the students themselves apparently did not mind. Langara College fired the instructor and canceled the adult class on shamanism after a school official recently heard about the April incident in casual conversation. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990526/17/odd-naked : Would you trust a clothed shaman? Would you get naked in school? Have you? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # War transformed attitudes to disability. (BBC) War - long associated with giving an impetus to the feminist movement - also played a major part in transforming people's views of disability. Maimed victims need acceptance: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_353000/353682.stm # Groups clash over alcohol strategy. (BBC) Drinking among women and teenagers has dramatically increased in recent years and a tough national strategy is needed to tackle the problem, says a leading alcohol charity. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_352000/352425.stm : Are your attitudes about disability and alcoholism formed by exposure, propaganda, experience, mind-control rays, alien implants, hypnotism, me? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Company Plans To Test 'Flying Car'. LONDON (Reuters) A US aviation firm plans to test a revolutionary new "flying car" that will hover above the ground and could change the way people travel in the future. The Batmobile shaped vehicle will seat four people, do about five miles per liter of gas, have a top speed of over 370 miles per hour and will take off and land vertically. Holy Honda! http://news.excite.com/news/r/990526/17/odd-car : Have you long awaited the skycar? Are experimental skycars mistaken for UFOs? Will more be misidentified in the future? Are skycars alien devices? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Is Dolly old before her time? (BBC) Dolly the Sheep may be susceptible to premature ageing, new research suggests. Baaa-aaad news for clonemeisters: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_353000/353617.stm # 'Ageing molecule' secrets revealed. (BBC) Mice that died early and got cancer more often have revealed the first intriguing insights in live animals of how an "ageing molecule" leads to the body's deterioration. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_29/290937.stm : Should clones have short expirations? Do you wanna live forever? Why not? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mysterious Deaths of Harbor Porpoises on East Coast. Solomons Island, MD Between March and April 1999, more than 160 porpoises washed up dead or dying along the East Coast of the United States. The number of deaths tripled over 1998. Marine scientists are baffled about why the porpoises are dying in such numbers and plan to have a meeting in early June 1999 to compare research findings. http://earthfiles.com/earth001.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Raw garlic tackles cancer. Doctors have established how much garlic they think a person would have to eat each day to gain from its anti-cancer pro- perties. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_353000/353507.stm # What to eat to beat cancer. (BBC) Diet plays an important role in helping the body resist cancer, but which foods really cut the risk of cancer? news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/medical_notes/newsid_353000/353669.stm : What would you ingest to prevent cancer? What would you avoid? What do the voices in your head tell you? Is cancer caused by food, chemicals, aliens? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Rosie O'Donnell toy pulled from shelves due to hidden cannibalism feature: # Dog starves to death after kids renege on promise to feed him: # People magazine and National Enquirer call for JonBenet Ramsey's body to be exhumed for photo-shoot: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7995/news_9.htm # Sabotage at Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant near Washington DC: # Global warming - upsurge in traumatic
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Monday #1
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: beltek [EMAIL PROTECTED] # CIA CLEARED TO 'DESTABILIZE' YUGOSLAV GOVERNMENT. http://cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9905/24/kosovo.01/ : What govt's would you like to destabilize? Is it easier to destabilize the Yugo, US, UK, Utah or Uranus gov't? Considering the CIA's penchang for messing up nearly everything they do, Yugoslavia is probably safer from them than from anyone else. Of course, we don't hear about the CIA's successes, since they are secret - only the failures are there to be laughed at or to embarrass the U.S. Obviously, all the operations we've never heard of were successful. Just think of everything you don't know, and CIA gets the credit. This simplifies the analysis enormously. * no hidden cameras were harmed during production of this message * DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [8] From Major Jordan's Diaries
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: From Major Jordan's Diaries George Racey Jordan©1952 All rights reserved LCCN 52-6448 Western Islands 395 Concord Avenue Belmont. Massachusetts 02178 PRINTING HISTORY Harcourt, Brace edition published 1952 Free Enterprise edition published 1958 American Opinion edition published 1961 The Americanist Library edition published 1965 170pps out-of-print --[8]-- CHAPTER EIGHT A Look at Lend-Lease In his Twenty-First Report to Congress on Lend-Lease Operations, President Truman says: "Total Lend-Lease shipments to the Soviet Union amounted to $9.5 billions."[1] It is this figure of nine and one-half billions, covering shipments only,[*] that I intend to examine.[ * The figure of eleven billions for Russian Lend-Lease, which is generally cited, includes services as well as shipments or goods transferred. For example, we spent $127 million for "servicing and repairs to ships"; this would appear in the eleven billion figure but not in the nine and one-half billion figure covering what we actually shipped to Russia, which alone is under discussion in this chapter.] I am sure that most people are under the impression that by far the greater amount of Russian Lend-Lease shipments were munitions. But from the Government's own figures in the Twenty-First Report, we learn that the contrary is true. The lesser part, or 49%, was for munitions. The greater part, or 51%, was for non-munitions! Here are the figures: Munitions $4,651,582,000 49% Non- Munitions 4,826,084,000 51% TOTAL $9,477,666,000 100% What exactly is meant by "munitions" and how much did we spend in each classification? The Twenty-First Report breaks down all Russian munitions under Lend-Lease into these five classifications, with the following expenditures: All Munitions 1. Aircraft and parts $1,652,236,000 2. Motor vehicles and parts 1,410,616,000 3. Ordnance and ammunition 814,493,000 4. Tanks and parts 478,398,000 5. Water craft* 295,839,000 TOTAL $4,651,582,000 [2] [ *In addition to a merchant fleet, we gave the Russians 581 naval vessels. Though they agreed to return all the ships at the conclusion of war, they are still holding most of them. Among the few returned: the radar-equipped light cruiser Milwaukee, 4 frigates, and a couple of badly used icebreakers. The original list included 77 minesweepers, 105 landing craft, 103 subchasers, 28 frigates, 202 torpedo boats, 4 floating drydocks, 4 250-ton pontoon barges, 3 icebreakers, 15 river tugs, and the light cruiser.] Few citizens, if any, would cavil at the sums expended in any of the foregoing categories. Most, like myself, would probably say "Well spent!" But now let's take a look at the greater category, the 51% of non-munitions. We find that they break down into: All Non-Munitions Petroleum Products $ 111,075,000 Agricultural Products 1,674,586,000 Industrial Materials Products 3,040,423,000 TOTAL $4,826,084,000[3] Since we gave the Russians planes, tanks, ships and motor vehicles, it is easy enough to grant that "Petroleum Products," the necessary oil and gas and fuel, are a justifiable wartime expenditure. Though the Government does not do this, to my mind the $111,075,000 could logically be included under "Munitions." But what about the rest of this greater part of Lend-Lease? In the spirit of humanity, let us pass over the enormous figure of $1,4674,586,000 for "Agricultural Products," even though we never got so much as a formal "thank you" from the Russian people or their leaders, and even though the dislocations and shortages caused in our own domestic economy by these tremendous shipments of foodstuffs are only too vivid in our memories. There still remains the largest figure of all, $3,040,423,000. We now discover that one-third of the whole of our nine and one-half billions of Russian Lend-Lease comes under the heading of "Industrial Materials and Products." It is this category which conceals a multitude of sins, run-ning the gamut from such military secrets as uranium and other atomic bomb ingredients, down to the Moscow amuse-ment park which I will show you was paid for by Lend--Lease. And under which of President Truman's four main headingsMunitions, Petroleum, Agricultural, or Industrial- could the following items legitimately be listed? Cigarette cases Fishing tackle Phonograph Dolls records Bank vaults Household Ladies' compacts furnishings Sheet music Lipsticks, Playground perfumesequipment Yet these are things which we sent to Russia under LendLease, as I shall shortly show you in detail. And just to mention at this point several other fantastic items, we also sent pianos and other musical instruments; antique furniture; calendars; 13,328 sets of teeth;
[CTRL] [3] The Right People
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Right People - A Portrait of the American Social Establishment Stephen Birmingham©1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1968 Little, Brown and Company Boston-Toronto LCCN 68-11525 360pps. out-of-print - Early Larry and the 'Greys'. . . Funny joke . . . ? New York Social Register's private little army. . . In the ranks of the Greys, in uniformed anonymity, have marched tiny Rockefellers, Roosevelts, Vanderbilts, Van Rensselaers, and Harrimans, not to mention pint-sized Twomblys, Goulds, Fishes, Burdens, Blagdens and Schwabs, to say nothing of lilliputian Dodges, Morgans, Swopes, Sloans, Hamiltons, Reads, and Reids. Om K - --[3]-- 3. "How Shall We Tell the children?" THOUGH each set of parents has its own specific formula, one of the most controversial issues in Society is the question of at what age, and how, to make the children aware of the special benefits and duties of their status. Some families, such as the Rockefellers, have traditionally made it a point to keep their children in the dark about the meaning of Rockefellerdom for as long as possible, and Rockefeller governesses were instructed to remove, from locked closets full of toys, only one toy per child daily, lest the young be overcome by the trappings of great wealth. In at least one Rockefeller nursery, a miniature kitchen was built adjoining where the children were taught to cook simple, unaffected dishes such as hamburgers, fried potatoes, and spaghetti. Once a week, furthermore, the children entertained their parents in the nursery for an evening meal the children had prepared. "I learned what it meant to be a Rockefeller long after I learned there was no Santa Claus," says one of the family. What was his reaction? "It frightened me terribly. I had nightmares for weeks. I was certain that someone would try to kidnap me." The Aldriches, who are related to Rockefellers by marriage, are similarly minded, and Lucy Aldrich Devens recalls that it was "many years before I realized that there was any money around." She was so strictly and carefully reared that she actually thought the Aldriches were poor. Some families are more direct, and a Connecticut mother believes in taking her small children with her on her regular rounds of personal charity, visiting her "favorite unfortunates" and delivering Christmas turkeys, toys, and hand-me-downs so that the children can see, without having it painfully explained, "the difference." To some, the difference is made clear at an extremely early age. A passenger in the nursery school car pool in Westchester was awed, recently, by the size of the home of one of his schoolmates. "Wow!" be cried. "You live in a castle!" The young man replied crisply, "It's not a castle. It's a mansion." A youth at the Hotchkiss School was, however, sixteen years old before he realized that everyone in the world was not precisely in his family's circumstances. He had managed to wheedle, from the family's cook, the promise of a bottle of whiskey to take to a party, and he had arranged to call at her Harlem apartment to pick it up. The young man had known the cook in terms of the coziness of the family kitchen and the starched amplitude of her white uniform. The squalor of the Harlem apartment, and the realization that the preparer of so many delicious family meals actually lived in such a place, was shock enough. But he says, "The door to her only closet was standing open, and inside, hanging neatly, were all my mother's old dresses. The sight of those cast-off dresses nearly knocked me over. Nothing could have brought home the gap the gulf between us with more impact. She gave me the bottle, and I could barely bring myself to look at her, I was so close to crying." But most families prefer that their children make the discovery in less dramatic fashion, that the dawning of the idea of "difference" come gradually and painlessly by a kind of social osmosis. The theory is that if a child is placed in the proper mixture of the right schools, the right dancing classes, the right parties, resorts, and summer camps, the desired result an unsurprising marriage to someone of the same class will inevitably take place. Of course this formula is not foolproof (even the most carefully brought-up young lady may fall in love with an Italian ski instructor), but in general it can be relied upon to work. The same osmosis principle is trusted when it comes to imparting political values, philosophies, and eventually party affiliation. Though one cannot guarantee it, one hopes that one's children will grow up to be right-thinking Republicans by simply following the example of their parents. In this endeavor, the right schools are supposed to help, but, again and again it is a shock to parents to discover that most schools make no attempt at all to instill political ideas. In fact, many prep school teachers take a sly delight in trying to "liberalize" Republican-oriented
[CTRL] Fwd: RMNews--The Cold War Returns--Radio Appearance--Smart Germs
= ==RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY === == http://www.rumormillnews.com == A HREF="http://www.rumormillnews.com/"Rumor Mill News /A Dateline:05.26.99 Rayelan Allan (Russbacher )will be a guest on The Lou Epton Radio Program Tomorrow Thursday, May 27th from 10PM to Midnight 840AM Las Vegas 50,000 Watts She will be discussing her new book, Diana, Queen of Heaven The New World Religion Soon to be URL http//www.dianaqueenofheaven.com Present location of Diana webpage A HREF="http://208.150.165.111/index.cfm"Diana Queen Of Heaven/A Lou says the show can be picked up from Canada to Mexico and into certain parts of California, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado. Give it a try, and call in Please!! * * * The Cold War is Returning (Where have We heard this before?) Back in December RMNews wrote an article called "The Cold War Returns". At that time, Clinton had just launched 200 missiles at Iraq. He did this the day before the House was to vote on Impeachment. Now, we are involved in a war in the Balkans. Many have asked if this war was started to derail an investigation into Chinese Espionage, Chinese funding of President Clinton, and Chinese Blackmail and/or bribery of President Clinton. The Cox Report has finally been released. What should we expect now that the war in Kosovo is no longer needed to keep the Cox Report from being released. * A negotiated settlement will soon be brokered. * Milosevic will probably settle in Greece or Russia, if he can get the war criminal charges dropped * Enough damage has been done in Serbia, especially to the Danube Waterway, that Serbia will have to be rebuilt as a modern city. The waterway will be improved to make it a true highway from the Black Sea to Central Europe. * This will help the economies of the area and give the refugees work But, not enough "War" has resulted to keep the world economies from crashing. Which means, the only way to keep the world out of a worldwide depression that could see half the world dying from starvation will be to start a war in which half the world MAY die from "accidental" bombings and forced population relocations. The war in Kosovo was created for more purposes than can be listed. Faction 1 and Faction 2 both have their own agendas. Faction TWO's Agenda in Kosovo 1. To bring back the Cold War which will derail the plans the New World Order has to create a One World Government by the year 2000 2. To get rid of Milosevic so Europe won't have a pirate raiding their ships on the Danube 3. To rebuild Serbia and make it part of the new European Trade Zone 4. To rebuild the bridges over the Danube insuring the shipping lanes can support the largest ships and barges, and handle maximum shipping traffic 5. To destroy NATO which has been infiltrated completely by the New World Order 6. Get rid of the socialists who are in power in many of the NATO nations, but especially Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Gerhard Schroder 7. To Create a new version of NATO free from the United Nations and the United States I am sure Faction 2 has other items on their agenda, I just haven't been given this information Faction One's Agenda in Kosovo 1. Show the world that NATO and the New World Order have the right to interfere in any sovereign nation 2. Convince the world that the concept of a "sovereign nation" is outdated and should be relegated to the Age of Dinosaurs 3. Show the sovereign nations of the world what will happen to them if they don't agree to go along with a One World Government devoid of sovereign nations 4. Keep Bill Clinton in power in the United States A. Keep the war going long enough to leak all the Chinese Espionage information B. Bomb the Chinese Embassy to create a reason for China to return to a hostile relationship with the United States 1. This takes the focus off the Chinese Espionage and the Clinton bribery/blackmail scandal 2. This gives China a reason to attack and claim Taiwan 3. Keep the war in Kosovo going long enough to be sure that China and North Korea have geared up to start the second phase of the Kosovo War which will be "Korean War Part Two" 4. Make sure that the "Korean War Part Two" lasts approximately 2 years or long enough to insure that the world's economies can be "retooled" so that the "World Economies", meaning the international bankers, don't go bankrupt. 5. If Kosovo fails to bring everyone in under a One World Government Umbrella, try to see that the Second Part of the war will go on long enough to wear down, or kill off, any opposition to the One World
[CTRL] (Fwd) DEFENDING AMERICA Newsletter, 1999-05-26-A
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:34:45 EDT Subject:DEFENDING AMERICA Newsletter, 1999-05-26-A To: undisclosed-recipients:; ***KOSOVO: ALLIED FORCE DAY 63 ** DEFENDING AMERICA ** ** 26 May 1999 ** * (To stop getting this newsletter, click the "reply" box, put UNSUB or DELETE in the Subject line, and hit "send." If your address is NOT in our mailing list, a third party is "redirecting" you a copy ~ which we have no control over, are not responsible for, and have no way to remove.) TABLE OF CONTENTS ARTICLES Hack's Column Veterans Have Paid the Price, But Have No Voice 1 Mac Notes 2 From The Field: I Am a Ground Troop 3 It Only Takes a Few To Make a Difference 4 Does This Make Sense and Save Money?5 Army Aviation Is a Hollow Force 6 Book Review: by Lt. Jack Daly, USN 7 Medal of Honor: Hammond, Francis C., Hospital Corpsman, USN 8 Attached: First Marine Division, Korea, 26-27 March 1953 Commentary: When Wars Fail, So Do Democrats, by Kevin Phillips 9 No Humor This Week = ARTICLE 1 ~~~ VETERANS HAVE PAID THE PRICE, BUT HAVE NO VOICE ~~~ By David H. Hackworth, 25 May 1999 While bombs rain down on Yugoslavia and politicians around the globe argue about expanding or ending that terrible conflict, America again honors its dead and living veterans from past wars on this Memorial Week. The ultimate reward for our living veterans who have "walked the walk" in the valley of death would not be more stale parades, perfunctory celebrations and recycled Memorial Day speeches, but only that we listen to their counsel regarding the most critical decision a country can make: to employ the military solution. Had President Clinton sat down with a group of veterans -- veterans who had stormed the beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima, stopped communist attacks on snow-covered mountains in Korea, waded through the minefields of Vietnam and whipped Saddam in the Gulf -- and asked their advice about jumping into a civil war in Yugoslavia, they'd have said, "Don't go there." And had he abided by their hard-won wisdom, America would not now be sinking in that quagmire or have kick-started another cold war with China and Russia. Unfortunately, President Clinton never calls upon our vets for advice about matters affecting the security of our country. Instead, he seeks counsel from advisors such as "It-will-be-a-short-war" Albright, "Just-give-us-a-little-more-time" Berger, and "We-are-prevailing" Cohen, an inner circle of dilettantes with a perfect record of fumbling badly in the life-and-death matters of war. Back in Arkansas, when Clinton's septic tank overflowed, I'm sure he had the horse sense to bring in a plumber rather than a lawyer. Smart folks like Albright, Berger and Cohen wouldn't know a plunger from a monkey wrench -- just as they can't possibly know a real war from an episode of "M*A*S*H". And while we assume Clinton's uniformed advisers know their job, so far they're performing that old familiar go-along-to-get-along dance -- much as the members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff did during the Vietnam War -- instead of standing tall and sounding off. After the bombing began, 2.8 million members of the American Legion did sound off. They called on President Clinton and Congress to pull United States military forces out of Yugoslavia immediately. Their commonsense stand didn't get much ink or tube time, and the majority of Congress gave it a miss, a clear indictment of just how much influence our veterans have in an America where so few members of the federal government or the media have worn our country's uniform. Today, school shootouts take up more tube time than repeated threats from the Russians that World War III is once again just a launch away! In the presidencies of war veterans Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower, the America Legion's message would have been carefully considered. It also would have been well-reported at the top of the news by the Edward Murrows and Walter Cronkites, reporters who saw combat and well understood the horror and waste of war. But today's news anchors -- among whom only Dan Rather has served our country in uniform (and he was medically discharged before finishing Marine boot camp) -- chose to ignore the veterans. Harold L. Miller,
[CTRL] Shea Zam !!!
-Caveat Lector- From wsws.org World Socialist Web Site www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis NATO's public face: Jamie Shea By David Walsh 27 May 1999 Back to screen version The following caption appeared in April under a photograph in the Washington Post: NATO spokesman Jamie Shea expressed regret over civilian losses from the bomb attack that hit a convoy in southeastern Kosovo. Regret? The photo doesn't appear to show a man expressing regret. Shea looks rather pleased, as though the value of his ten thousand shares of XYZ.com had increased by 5 percent or a rival had disgraced himself. In gene ral, NATO's public representative seems to take immoderate pleasure in describing scenes of violence and death. Does Shea's prominence as NATO's spokesman say anything about the war and those social layers supporting it? Each day the most powerful armed forces in the world are bombarding a defenseless smaller nation. Thousands of bombs and missiles are laying waste to industry, power facilities and transportation. Civilians die and the en tire region is plunged into abject misery. In other words, the great powers are once more pursuing their predatory aims. And this barbarism is carried out in the name of human rights and democracy. We are witnessing, more than witnessing, a new round of murderous humanitarianism. Upon whom will it fall to represent this festival of violence and hypocrisy in the public arena? Let us try to imagine the social and psychological type. First of all, he would have to be devoid of principles, a willing a nd eager tool of authority. A product of a reactionary time; let's say, a social climber. Someone who decided to throw his lot in with the establishment years ago and has had no qualms about it since. Once having taken the side of authority, he discovered there was something intoxicating about it. He enjoyed the sight of weaponry. In the presence of generals and admirals his personality blossomed. He felt powerful asso ciated with power, less like an accountant or a dental assistant. Had there been slights at some point in the past? He might take definite delight in inflicting pain, and even find that difficult to hide in public. A perp etual smirk, for example, might give him away. Shea seems the embodiment of the NATO operation, its fitting public face. He announces with relish the day's toll of destruction; he denies indignantly that the most recent bombs have struck civilian targets ... until the next day, when he admits that they have; he then regrets the latest deaths, which, however, are understandable and unavoidable considering the nature of the conflict, and so forth. Who is Shea? I assumed that he was some sort of low-level public relations man. Not so. He is a Senior Official on NATO's International Staff and considered something of an academic heavyweight in those circles. He was born in south London in 1953 of humble origins, attended Sussex University, where he earned a First in History and French, and Oxford, where he collected a doctorate. The title of his thesis? European Intellectuals and the Great War 1914-1918. Having gone to work at NATO in 1980, by November 1988 Shea had risen to the post of Assistant to the Secretary General for Special Projects. The position involved speechwriting, the ghostwriting of articles, press release s and official communiqués. He became Deputy Head and Senior Planning Officer, Policy Planning Unit and Multilateral Affairs Section of the Political Directorate in 1991. He was named Spokesman of NATO and Deputy Direct or of Information and Press in July 1993, the jobs he currently holds. Shea has served under three NATO secretaries-general. According to CNN, He was at the late Manfred Woerner's side when the NATO secretary-general gave the go-ahead for air strikes in Bosnia. He was also spokesman for Wi lly Claes, the Belgian social-democrat and NATO secretary-general, who had to resign after being implicated in a corruption scandal. Specializing in security matters and international politics, Shea has a career as well as an academic. He has taught at the Université Libre de Bruxelles [Free University of Brussels] and lectured to French military offic ers on international relations and NATO affairs at the University of Lille. He is an Associate Professor of International Relations, American University, Washington, DC; he has served as the director of its Brussels Overs eas Study Program. He has been an Adjunct Associate Professor at Michigan State University's James Madison College for a decade and directed its Summer School in Brussels. He is co-authoring a forthcoming book, NATO in th e 1990s, with Professor Michael Schechter of MSU. In reply to my communication, James Madison College's acting dean Dr. Norman Graham informed me that since 1989 Shea has
[CTRL] War Crimes
-Caveat Lector- And where would Slobo go after the war? Gee ... From Irish Times Thursday, May 27, 1999 Majority in Greece wants Clinton tried for war crimes -- A majority of Greeks wants President Clinton to face war crimes charges for his role in the Kosovo conflict, while just 14 per cent want President Slobodan Milosevic tried, an opinion poll showed yesterday. The poll showed 69.7 per cent of Greeks want Mr Clinton tried and 35.2 per cent want the British Prime Minister, Mr Blair, also charged over NATO's campaign of air strikes against Yugoslavia. But only 14 per cent believe Mr Milosevic should face international sanctions for his role in the repression and expulsion of Kosovo's ethnic Albanian population. The poll was carried out by the ICAP Institute, which questioned a representative sample of 1,000 Greeks between April 29th and May 5th. Around 13 per cent also want to see the NATO commander, Gen Wesley Clark, tried for war crimes and 9.6 per cent the NATO Secretary General, Mr Javier Solana. Nearly 85 per cent attributed the NATO operation to a US "show of force" and only 2.5 per cent saw it as a reaction to "ethnic cleansing". The poll published in Greek newspapers yesterday confirmed the overwhelming opposition of Greeks - 99.5 per cent - to the NATO action in Yugoslavia, which began on March 24th. The Greek press gives full coverage to NATO "atrocities" while glossing over the fate of the hundreds of thousands of ethnic Albanian refugees. Greece - a NATO member - enjoys good relations with Serbia and the majority of its people are Eastern Orthodox Christians. Faced with massive opposition at home, the Greek government has called for an end to the air campaign and for priority to be given to a diplomatic push for peace. Greece's ruling Panhellenic Socialist Movement (Pasok) has gained ground on the conservative opposition two weeks before the June European elections, but a large number of Greeks are still undecided, two opinion polls showed. A Metron Analysis poll published in the daily, Ta Nea, yesterday gave Pasok 29.4 per cent support and the opposition New Democracy 31.4 per cent. Some 36 per cent of voters said they had faith in Pasok to manage the economy best, compared to 24.3 per cent who thought New Democracy would do a better job. Another poll, by pollsters Opinion and published in Eleftherotypia, said Pasok had 27.4 per cent support and New Democracy 29.5 per cent, with 11.6 per cent still undecided. ~ After all, isn't the reportage suggesting a shortage of bombs? Thursday, May 27, 1999 Viagra curb is ruled unlawful -- Britain: The British government may face a multi-million-pound damages claim over the anti-impotence drug Viagra after its original decision to restrict NHS supplies of the drug was ruled unlawful by the High Court yesterday. Viagra's manufacturer, Pfizer, is considering suing the government for loss of profits. It may also mount a legal challenge to the current prescribing restrictions, which limit the drug to just 17 per cent of impotence sufferers. The High Court ruling could lead to other drug companies which have had their treatments restricted on the NHS also mounting challenges to the government. Mr Justice Collins ruled that interim guidance to GPs by the Health Secretary, Mr Frank Dobson, not to prescribe Viagra when it was first licensed in the UK last September broke domestic and European law. He said Mr Dobson had unlawfully interfered with a GP's ethical and contractual duty to exercise professional judgment on whether patients should receive the drug. The judge gave Pfizer leave to pursue a damages claim for loss of profit from the time the health service circular containing the guidance was sent out. ~~ From NY Times (Gallows humour from Serbia) Yet another joke asks, "Why will Bill Clinton become the next President of Yugoslavia?" The answer: "He's succeeded in uniting the Serbs and destroying the Albanians." AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to
Re: [CTRL] China Leaped When Clinton Elected Prez
-Caveat Lector- The only way they can retake control to wreck the country, demoralize the population, create panic. You are, of course, absolutely right. However, with Y2K bearing down on us as it is, I am reminded of the punchline from an Viet Nam era army joke about a certain incurable venereal disease: "No, no. Doctor wrong. No got to cut off. Leave on. Couple week, fall off by self." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) DEFENDING AMERICA Newsletter, 1999-05-26-B
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:37:03 EDT Subject:DEFENDING AMERICA Newsletter, 1999-05-26-B To: undisclosed-recipients:; DEFENDING AMERICA Newsletter, 1999-05-26-B ARTICLE 5 DOES THIS MAKE SENSE AND SAVE MONEY? SUMMARY: An Air Force warrior wants to know if any thought or proper assessment is given to "readiness" when all this maintenance "Ponzi" shuffling is through. Or is it just a congressional funding fox-trot? == By A USAF Warrior I have witnessed the closing of Kelly AFB in San Antonio, where the C-5 used to undergo programmed depot maintenance and modification. It is not only a very large aircraft, but also a very complicated heavy maintenance bird. We averaged about 2 completed aircraft a month at Kelly prior to its moving to Warner Robins AFB in Georgia. About 15 percent of the work force transferred with the work to WR. Now the average number of C-5's being completed each month there is between one half and one. We are currently in the mode of transferring the F100 engine from Kelly to Tinker AFB in Oklahoma. As you may know, this powerful engine is the workhorse of the F15 and F16. These planes are currently in use in the "conflict" in Serbia. About 1300 mechanics and support staff will need to be moved to Oklahoma in order to support this work. Current estimates are that about half will move up Interstate 35 to Oklahoma City. All of this work needs to be fully operational at Tinker by December of this year. Would you please explain in one of your columns how this giant shell game of moving huge workloads around the country is beneficial to readiness? The GAO bean-counters who said that this will save DoD money refused to look at how readiness would be affected. With the new Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS), civilian defense workers don't lose a penny of their retirement if they just quit DoD, like they would under the old Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). Therefore, just like the pilots who quit because they don't want to split up their family, so can civilian defense workers at the closing depots. Inexperience new-hires at the gaining bases will take 2-3 years of "reinventing the wheel" of old workloads. This is painfully evident from talking to my friends who moved to Georgia with the C-5. With future base closings in the news, someone needs to explain that they were originally to close old, outdated bases, not modern bases with huge workloads that are vital to readiness. ARTICLE 6 ~~ ARMY AVIATION IS A HOLLOW FORCE ~~ SUMMARY: The author takes aim at his own MOS and branch - Army Aviation. * By an Army Kiowa driver WE ARE BROKE: Army Aviation is broken from the ground up, we have NCO's who are brainwashed and worked to hard because they concentrate on playing Army instead of focusing on the specialized Aviation mission at hand, in fact while stationed at Ft. Drum while crucial work needed to be performed on our aircraft but the Division Command Sgt Major had the crew-chiefs watering the Division HQ's lawn and thought everything was just great..great..great, the sad thing is that our leadership said nothing for fear of rebuttal by the command on the coveted OER (officer evaluation report). Moreover, the (pilots) are given the task of performing duties like digging fox holes due to the crew-chief shortage during field exercises and rolling commo wire, in fact one pilot lacerated his cornea while at a JRTC deployment rolling commo wire after it popped from the spool, but it was no big deal because he was a commoner in the Army, nothing special, just another guy flying one of the world's most sophisticated aircraft -- and by the way we picked up trash on the side of the road when the rotation was over -- there are so many instances it's futile and absolutelyunbelievable. NOT SUFFICIENTLY VALUED OR REWARDED: Apache pilots are not alone in this fight, a majority the pilots are worn out regardless of what they fly and see their jobs as fruitless and with no reward monetarily or emotionally. Esprit De Corp has long been gone due to not being allowed to wear unit patches to promote unit cohesion and morale, and the newest "brainchild" of the Army with the advent of the unfashionable ABDU ensemble in lieu of a flight-suit and its getting worse. We have been called as one Infantry General said "Mud Soldiers! HOOAH!" but they will not be Mud soldiers for long. HOLLOW ARMY: Army Aviation is Hollow, we have mighty few Senior Warrant Officers(CW3's, CW4's and CW5's) in
[CTRL] Clinton to order 90,000 troops to Kosovo . . .
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/frontpage.html?999 A HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Times/frontpage.html?999"The Times /A - BALKANS WAR May 27 1999 Clinton to order 90,000 troops to Kosovo BY MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR PRESIDENT CLINTON is now ready to consider a full-scale land war against Serb forces in Kosovo, sending up to 90,000 combat troops from America, if no peace settlement emerges within the next three weeks. Although Nato is only officially planning for a peace implementation force of 50,000-60,000 troops, there is a growing feeling in Washington and London that the alliance must prepare itself for a much bigger operation, involving 150,000-160,000 troops. Mr Clinton's dramatic conversion, after weeks of apparent reluctance to send in ground troops, has emerged in the light of detailed briefings from General Wesley Clark, the Supreme Allied Commander, last week. A new sense of urgency has been injected into Nato's contingency planning because of a warning from the military that a decision will have to be made "by mid-June" if the alliance is to contemplate a ground offensive. The tight timetable is being dictated by the alliance's determination to start returning ethnic Albanian refugees to their homes in Kosovo before the winter. The huge number of troops required for such an operation will be a daunting challenge for Nato. However, alliance sources said that with Mr Clinton committed to defeating Mr Milosevic one way or another, the US would be expected to contribute more than half of the force. They estimated the US contribution could be about 90,000 troops who would be deployed from America, not from Germany. They might include the 12,500-man US 82nd Airborne Division, based at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, which was deployed in the Gulf War in 1991. Britain and France would also be expected to play a major part. Yesterday, George Robertson, the Defence Secretary, took the first step by announcing an extra 12,000 troops and support personnel for the peace implementation force, called Kfor. This will bring the total British military strength committed to the Kosovo crisis in Albania, Macedonia, Italy and the Adriatic to more than 19,000. Although Mr Robertson insisted that it was not an invasion force, Tony Blair indicated in the Commons that the troops could be used for a combat role. The alliance sources said that the size of an invasion force would depend on the amount of damage achieved by the airstrikes against the Serb troops in Kosovo over the next few weeks. Last week, it was estimated that the Serb strength in the province remained at about 40,000 in spite of two months of bombing. However, Nato still hopes that the intensified bombing campaign combined with Russian diplomatic efforts will persuade President Milosevic to agree to the alliance's five conditions for stopping the airstrikes. It is also recognised that if Nato were seen to be preparing for a land offensive, while backing Moscow's peace diplomacy, it could seriously undermine the already strained relations between Russia and the alliance. Another key factor is that the alliance itself has to be held together, and any formal request made to the 19 member states for authority to plan for a ground war could damage the unity that has been maintained so far. Germany indicated yesterday that it would not veto a move towards a ground war, although its troops would not take part. One resolve shared by the whole of Nato is that Mr Milosevic must not win, and the alliance sources said that if the air campaign and diplomatic efforts failed to get the Yugoslav leader to back down within the next three weeks, there would be no alternative but to prepare a ground offensive. The alliance sources admitted that the operation would be difficult, "but not impossible", and that a number of ways into the province were being studied. Next page: Extra soldiers 'not part of invasion force' Cook drums up support in Europe for land war Another 12,000 UK troops on standby Tribunal to indict Milosevic Balkans Summary Copyright 1999 Times Newspapers Ltd. This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard terms and conditions. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from The Times, visit the Syndication website. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of
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