Re: [CTRL] THE LOOTING OF AMERICA - FOREIGN AID [d.c.thieves]
-Caveat Lector- Bard wrote: -Caveat Lector- "I am for free commerce with all nations; political connection, with none; and little or no diplomatic establishments." -- Thomas Jefferson Americans will be first at the scene to help victims of natural disaster from Kurdistan to Honduras. But the steady siphoning of $30 million a day and $17 billion a year in foreign aid from a depleted U.S. Treasury must come to an end. Do you think they do it because they are nice? It's PR. Today, one-fourth of America's national debt is traceable to foreign aid, yet we continue to dig deeper into debt to fund "friends" -- three-quarters of whom more often than not vote against the U.S. in the UN. Do you think they do it because they are nice? It's how the US elites transfer bribes to foreign elites to set up deals. Usually arms sales that go right into the pockets of the defense industry. The looting of America for the construction of the New World Order must end. Not as long as you pay taxes and vote for a DemocRAT or Republican. America needs a policy that phases out foreign aid and focuses instead on forgotten Americans here at home. Not as long as you have a capitalist system where the local markets are saturated. The time has come for dependent nations to quit presuming upon American benevolence and begin paying the full cost of their own development and defense. Dependent nations seldom receive the help unless it's as a photo op. Dependent nations' elites get the money. Joshua2 You can help Pat right now while you are online! USE YOUR CREDIT CARD or SEND A CHECK [Letter] [Profile] [Issues] [Statements] [Articles] P. O. Box 2000, Dunn Loring, Virginia 22027 Web: http://www.gopatgo2000.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 703-734-2700 Buchanan 2000 - Scott B. Mackenzie, Treasurer ©1999 Buchanan 2000 Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The U.N. CAN Help Save The World.
-Caveat Lector- One thing I've noticed about the population control/reduction advocates: They never volunteer themselves or their own families for reduction, only other people's. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. new policy on ENCRYPTION / U.S. lobbies EU on behalf of MONSANTO
-Caveat Lector- Remember the fact that we recently discovered the NSA encryption key built into Windoze products? Here's a VERY interesting related (imho) development ! This is from a U.S. government briefing on cyberwar trade war between U.S and EU. U.S. new policy on ENCRYPTION / U.S. lobbies EU on behalf of MONSANTO [ http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/lates tf=99092002.wltt=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml ] (note: the URL above may become broken in transit. paste ALL of the text between [brackets] above to read the original full briefing transcript, which also contains information on the U.S. government's continuing lobbying efforts on behalf of MONSANTO's rGBH and other GM/GE genetically modified FRANKENFOODS .. the transcript is pretty long, but shows the U.S. government's VERY STRONG commitment to pursuing a trade war with Europe on behalf of Monsanto.) There is an EXTREMELY clear aspect of class-warfare involved in the Frankenfood issue- "lower" class- poorer, less educated, persons with less options (unnecessary baggage to the elitists) will never know what hit them when their diets are invaded by Frankenfoods NWO Malthusian practice in action.) Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart 20 September 1999 Transcript: Aaron, Morningstar, Siddiqui Briefing in Brussels Sept. 17 (U.S. officials "encouraged" by meetings at European Commission) Representing the United States were Under Secretary of Commerce David Aaron, Ambassador to the European Union Richard Morningstar, and Special Assistant for Trade Issues at the Department of Agriculture Isi Siddiqui. The three men held a joint press briefing afterwards at the U.S. Mission to the European Union (EU) to report on the meetings and to answer questions about the issues. Following is a transcript of the briefing: (begin transcript) U.S. MISSION TO THE EUROPEAN UNION PRESS BRIEFING AMBASSADOR DAVID AARON, UNDER SECRETARY OF COMMERCE DR. ISI SIDDIQUI, SPECIAL ASSISTANT FOR TRADE ISSUES, US DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AMBASSADOR RICHARD MORNINGSTAR, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE EUROPEAN UNION SEPTEMBER 17, 1999 BRUSSELS, BELGIUM UNDER SECRETARY AARON: I'll just say a very few words on each on the issues. I understand that you have been briefed on who I've met with so far today, and I might just go down and just give you a sense of the character of the discussion. [Excerpt] Q: The U.S. Government has announced something on encryption, export controls on encryption equipment. Can you say what's happened there and what the impact on U.S. exporting firms might be? UNDER SECRETARY AARON: Yes. Under the new policy that was announced yesterday, essentially, after a one-time review, encryption products of any key length will be exportable throughout the world, except to the "terrorist seven", as they call them, but they will be able to go to any civilian entity, business, non-governmental institution, so forth, without restrictions. We think this is a useful step, an important step, that will strengthen the opportunities for electronic commerce, that will provide greater security and privacy, and that it's a necessary step in view of the evolution of both the technology and the marketplace. At the same time, we will be seeking authority from the Congress to take certain steps in regard to computer security within the United States. But as far as the export control dimension of this is concerned, I think this is going to be a dramatic simplification, and streamlining of the procedures and should go a long way toward meeting some of the concerns that both customers and the industry itself have been expressing over time. Indeed, I spoke to a European representative of an American firm today, at lunch, who told me that they were quite pleased, and they felt that this would put them in a much stronger position to compete effectively in this market. [SNIP] Q: A quick question on the hormone-treated beef. The sanctions you now have on European products - could one imagine that this will go on for years if there is no new proof? DR. SIDDIQUI: Our position has been that before those sanctions, or withdrawal of concessions, went down on July 27, our efforts were to avoid that, if we could get some kind of date-certain lifting of the ban on hormone-treated beef. That was not coming, the proposals to compensate for this market loss, that was not forthcoming, so essentially we were forced into that situation. We are hoping that we can resume trade of hormone-free beef, which was going on to the tune of about 25 to 30 million dollars a year, that was stopped in July. That's the hormone-free beef, and then of course, because of the ban, we are hoping these 17 studies will be completed. Our scientists believe that there is no new information forthcoming. It may be a new interpretation of existing
[CTRL] 1st Yenta visited Mystic
-Caveat Lector- I am much afraid that schools will prove to be the great gates of hell unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures, engraving them in the hearts of youth. I advise no one to place his child where the scriptures do not reign paramount. Every institution in which men are not increasingly occupied with the Word of God must become corrupt. -- Martin Luther Bard -Original Message- From: Vikki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hillary's Question Hillary's Question During a recent publicity outing, Hillary sneaked off to visit a fortune teller of some local repute. In a dark and hazy room, peering into a crystal ball, the mystic delivered grave news. "There's no easy way to say this, so I'll just be blunt: Prepare yourself to be a widow. Your husband will die a violent and horrible death this year. "Visibly shaken, Hillary stared at the woman's lined face, then at the single flickering candle, then down at her hands. She took a few deep breaths to compose herself. She simply had to know. She met the fortune teller's gaze, steadied her voice, and asked her question: "Will I be acquitted?" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] militarization of law enforcement - planning/escalation/propaganda stages
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart 21 September 1999 US national newspaper, September 21, 1999 Federal Commission Predicts Increasing Threat of Terrorism By STEVEN LEE MYERS WASHINGTON -- The United States faces increasing threats from terrorism in the next 25 years and is likely to be compelled to intervene in other conflicts like Kosovo and East Timor even as its military shrinks, a federal advisory commission warned in a report released on Monday. The report makes grim predictions about crises and threats at home and abroad. The commission, headed by former Sens. Gary Hart and Warren B. Rudman, warns in the 143-page report that the country "will be vulnerable to an increasing range of threats against American forces and citizens overseas, as well as at home," from terrorists or rogue states. "While conventional conflicts will still be possible, the most serious threat to our security may consist of unannounced attacks on American cities" by terrorist groups using germ warfare, said a summary of the report. "Another may be well-planned cyber-attack on the air traffic control system on the East Coast of the United States as some 200 commercial aircraft are trying to land safely in a morning's rain and fog." The commission predicted that the American military will increasingly be called upon to conduct humanitarian missions and what the Pentagon calls "operations other than war" in trouble spots around the world. But its status and influence will fuel resentment toward the United States, making it a target for attacks at home and abroad. In one of its grimmest predictions, the report added, "Americans will likely die on American soil, possibly in large numbers." The commission said the United States is not prepared to defend itself against terrorist threats at home. That, its report concluded, will lead to more pressure on the military to expand its scope into domestic law enforcement as the lines between foreign and domestic threats is blurred. The commission's effort is the latest in a series of reviews undertaken inside and outside the government over the last few years to try to assess threats to the United States in the post-Cold War era. Many of its findings echo those made by the Pentagon's own Quadrennial Defense Review in 1997 and a Congressional group, the National Defense Panel, which issued a report a year later. Still, the commission is expected to influence the debate over funding for the Pentagon and its programs for dealing with new threats, including a stronger focus on chemical and biological weapons and a missile defense system. At a news conference last week previewing the report, Rudman said he hoped the commission's work would ultimately lead to a rethinking of the organization of the nation's national security agencies -- the way similar reviews after the end of World War II led to the creation of the Air Force, the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Council. "We believe that with the world changing as it has, the essential force structure of the United States defense establishment, although it has changed in many ways, structurally has remained very much like it was intended to be" after World War II, Rudman said. The commission stopped short of offering prescriptions, saying it would offer those in its subsequent reports. In surveying the possibilities for the future, the commission said that, while Russia and China are likely to be competitors to the United States in global influence -- with China's economy likely to surpass the United States' by 2020 -- it is also possible that Russia and China could disintegrate. In looking ahead, the commission was not entirely gloomy. The spread of democracy, advances in medicine and technology and new economic opportunities raise the prospect of increased stability and security around the world, it said. But some of the same trends have less benign consequences. The increasing integration of the world's economy will mean that economic crises that were once local might spread, while scientific advances could hasten the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, as well as missiles to fire them. The reliance on computers and other technologies will also create new vulnerabilities to attack from those unable to take on the American military directly, the commission said. The United States, like other advanced countries, could also face serious security threats from economic crises that touch off social unrest or conflicts. The report noted that the Asian economic crisis in 1997 and 1998 was soon followed by the political upheaval in Indonesia and the fall of President Suharto's government. "For most advanced states," the report said, "major threats to national security will broaden beyond the purely military."
[CTRL] EU Parliament study on surveillance, imprisonment, undetectable torture: technologies of political control.
-Caveat Lector- European Parliament- an ongoing study of "political CONTROL" - including methods of surveillance, imprisonment, undetectable torture, and other "technologies of political control." excerpt below, full document at this link: http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm (email me if you do not have web access, I'll email it to you (it's VERY LONG). Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT _ SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL OPTIONS ASSESSMENT STOA AN APPRAISAL OF TECHNOLOGIES OF POLITICAL CONTROL Working document (Consultation version) Luxembourg, 6 January 1998 PE 166 499 Directorate General for Research --- Cataloguing data: Title: An appraisal of technologies for political control Publisher: European Parliament Directorate General for Research Directorate B The STOA Programme Author: Mr. Steve Wright - Omega Foundation - Manchester Editor: Mr. Dick Holdsworth Head of STOA Unit Date: 6 January 1998 PE Number: PE 166 499 This document is a working document. The current version is being circulated for consultation. It is not an official publication of STOA or of the European Parliament. This document does not necessarily represent the views of the European Parliament. AN APPRAISAL OF THE TECHNOLOGY OF POLITICAL CONTROL ABSTRACT The objectives of this report are fourfold: (i) to provide Members of the European Parliament with a guide to recent advances in the technology of political control; (ii) to identify, analyse and describe the current state of the art of the most salient developments; (iii) to present members with an account of current trends, both in Europe and Worldwide; and (iv) to develop policy recommendations covering regulatory strategies for their management and future control. The report contains seven substantive sections which cover respectively: (i) The role and function of the technology of political control; (ii) Recent trends and innovations (including the implications of globalisation, militarisation of police equipment, convergence of control systems deployed worldwide and the implications of increasing technology and decision drift); (iii) Developments in surveillance technology (including the emergence of new forms of local, national and international communications interceptions networks and the creation of human recognition and tracking devices); (iv) Innovations in crowd control weapons (including the evolution of a 2nd. generation of so called 'less-lethal weapons' from nuclear labs in the USA). (v) The emergence of prisoner control as a privatised industry, whilst state prisons face increasing pressure to substitute technology for staff in cost cutting exercises and the social and political implications of replacing policies of rehabilitation with strategies of human warehousing. (v) The use of science and technology to devise new efficient mark-free interrogation and torture technologies and their proliferation from the US Europe. (vi) The implications of vertical and horizontal proliferation of this technology and the need for an adequate political response by the EU, to ensure it neither threatens civil liberties in Europe, nor reaches the hands of tyrants. The report makes a series of policy recommendations including the need for appropriate codes of practice. It ends by proposing specific areas where further research is needed to make such regulatory controls effective. The report includes a comprehensive bibliographical survey of some of the most relevant literature. AN APPRAISAL OF THE TECHNOLOGY OF POLITICAL CONTROL EXECUTIVE SUMMARY The objectives of this report are fourfold: (i) to provide Members of the European Parliament with a guide to recent advances in the technology of political control; (ii) to identify. analyze and describe the current state of the art of the most salient developments; (iii) to present members with an account of current trends, both in Europe and Worldwide; and (iv) to develop policy recommendations covering regulatory strategies for their management and future control. The report includes a large selection of illustrations to provide Members of Parliament with a good idea of the scope of current technology together with a representative flavour of what lies on the horizon. The report contains seven substantive sections, which can be summarised as follows: THE ROLE FUNCTION OF POLITICAL CONTROL TECHNOLOGIES This section takes into account the multi-functionality of much of this technology and its role in yielding an extension of the scope, efficiency and growth of policing power. It
Re: [CTRL] 1st Yenta visited Mystic
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am much afraid that schools will prove to be the great gates of hell unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures, engraving them in the hearts of youth. Which holy scriptures? The Koran? That's engraved on the hearts of many - in Muslim theocracies. The Gitas? The Sutras? Hebrew, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, Mormon, Adventist scriptures? The Principia Discordia? So many scriptures, so little agreement... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The U.N. CAN Help Save The World.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thing I've noticed about the population control/reduction advocates: They never volunteer themselves or their own families for reduction, only other people's. Incorrect. I've had a vasectomy. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- It seems to me that what we have in the way of real choices is just a choice between differing forms of fascism and the means with which the NWO agenda will be advanced. Consider: George Dubya- Elitist, right wing, has made money in Narcotics and in Oil. I see him as having a base of power in SEA with the Chinese as a lesser entity. He will promote NWO agendas that conform to this goal additionally he will shape foreign policy along the lines of increasing the Military expenditures and farming out our troops in just the same way his dad and Clinton have done. I think he harbors in his mind the idea of a USA as the spearhead for the NWO, but just as much about promoting the idea of International Cooperation and economic subjugation. His policies will also conform to his elitist principles, in that the rich will grow fat and the poor will die, all the while professing compassion. He will expand the use of Military force in law enforcement and will take full advantage of EO's to get the job done, by-passing a continued inept and unwilling congress. The Police State will grow by leaps and bounds, because he will be in favor of the 2nd amendment and thus people will still have guns (at least for a while) and he would have to strengthen the police forces to be able to cope with the threat. Gore- Follows in Clintons camp as a China led NWO supporter. Seeing the Chinese in charge in the east and as main players, even superior to the US perhaps. He will continue to promote the same agenda of taking away liberties and attacking the same institutions that his predecessor has. Gun control will be big, the police state will grow as terrorist threats (some real, some phony) make it "necessary". He will be a figurehead for Chinese expansion and consolidation, Taiwan will fall. He is elitist too and thus will support much of what GWB would. Buchanan- Fascism of the Nationalist variety. Very appealing these days. Isolationist talk means that we would disengage OVERT international connections and use backdoor deals where the money will come from. Subtle racism in domestic and foreign policy. Guns are allowed but the military will rise and military involvement in law enforcement will increase. I see Buchanan as someone who wants the NWO in a way in which the US leads and dominates through economic control and strategic use of our military. Not much choice really. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Campaign to DEMONIZE (and Police) the Internet, U.S. State Dept.
-Caveat Lector- Excerpted from: [ http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/lates t/f=99092211.wltt=/products/washfile/newsitem1.shtml ] -- all one LONG URL between [ ]. Isn't it interesting that the government has such a fascination with pedophilia and drugs? U.S. C_I_A (cocaine importing agency) has been implicated heavily in BOTH areas (protecting their territory?) look for MKUltra on the web for info on C_I_A / ritual child abuse... entering the letters "CIA" and the word cocaine will cause your search engine to cough up a THOUSAND or two links, many of which will detail ongoing smuggling operations... Please repost this to any and all INFOWAR email lists. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart 22 September 1999 Text: Amb. Hall Salzburg Speech on Ending Online Child Pornography (No country, family, child is safe from dangers of cyberspace) (3,850) [excerpt:] To continue the international efforts I've just mentioned and put the problem into 'hyper space mode', a joint U.S.-EU sponsored conference will be held in Vienna on September 29th through October 1st to combat child pornography over the Internet. Initiated last year by U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Austrian Foreign Minister Wolfgang Schuessel, the conference brings together policy makers, Internet Providers, hotline providers, enforcement and justice officials. ** *Our goal is to facilitate an international framework for policing the Internet* **, encouraging the Internet providers to self-regulate while preserving fundamental liberties. [translated from DOUBLESPEAK:] The U.S. government wants to censor the internet, and gain international cooperation to do so. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Mark McHugh wrote: -Caveat Lector- C Davis wrote: Annunaki.. The Space Gods return! -- Mark McHugh Yep. And, the Sumerian Glyph for the word Annunaki translates to "The Lofty Ones!" = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Phineas' Priest
-Caveat Lector- www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America : US Violence Fort Worth, Texas gunman linked to fascist group By Martin McLaughlin 22 September 1999 Back to screen version The gunman who murdered seven people at a Fort Worth church September 15 had ties to extreme-right-wing groups in Texas, according to reports first published in the Houston Chronicle. Larry Ashbrook, 47, killed four teenagers and three adults before taking his own life. Writer John Craig is co-author of a 1997 book, Soldiers of God, which examines white supremacist and Christian fascist organizations in America. He told the newspaper that he had spoken to Ashbrook in 1997 while interviewing members of the Ku Klux Klan for the book. Ashbrook told him he was a member of the "Phineas Priests," one of the far-right tendencies which are collectively known as "Christian Identity." The Phineas sect is named after a Biblical high priest who murdered a Jewish prince for taking a non-Jewish lover. Its membership consists of self-appointed "race warriors" who pledge to kill Jews, racial minorities, gays, abortion providers and whites who marry across racial or religious lines. The fascist gunman Buford Furrow, who attacked a Jewish community center in Los Angeles last month and later murdered an Asian-American postal worker, was also associated with the Phineas Priests. Craig suggested that Ashbrook may have targeted the Westbrook Baptist Church for violence because the Southern Baptist Convention, to which Westbrook is affiliated, recently announced a campaign to convert Jews to Christianity. While this campaign was criticized by Jewish groups, the announcement was denounced by violent anti-Semitic elements as well. "To a Phineas priest or white supremacist that is the ultimate blasphemy," Craig said, "because they believe that they are the children of Israel." According to the Klanwatch Project, which monitors ultra-right-wing activity, the Phineas Priests are not so much an organized group as a title assumed by individual terrorists who operate like the Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh, or Benjamin Smith, who went on a shooting rampage against Jews, blacks and Asians in Illinois and Indiana over the July 4 weekend. "To become a Phineas Priest means to commit armed robbery, arson, sabotage, kidnapping and murder," a spokesman for Klanwatch said. "It is a commitment to a holy war." In 1997 four men calling themselves Phineas Priests were convicted in Spokane, Washington of a series of bombings and bank robberies during the previous year, including bomb attacks on the offices of Planned Parenthood and the Spokesman-Review, the Spokane daily newspaper. Three were sentenced to life in prison and one to a term of 55 years. Craig said he had notified the FBI after his interview with Ashbrook and other supporters of right-wing terrorism in 1997, and that he called the Fort Worth police department "repeatedly" in the days after the Westbrook killings, but neither agency has shown any interest in evidence that right-wing politics may underlie the massacre. FBI officials said they had no plans to pursue Craig's story and Fort Worth police spokesman David Ellis was unaware Craig had even called the department. Another city spokesman dismissed interest in this aspect of the case, indicating that with Ashbrook's suicide, there was no point in looking into his background. "We're not doing a biography on this subject," he said. There is no question that Ashbrook was a deeply disturbed individual, likely a schizophrenic, from descriptions of his behavior by neighbors. The unemployed Navy veteran lived at home with his elderly parents and was socially isolated after their deathshis mother in 1990, his father two months ago. His conduct was increasingly erratic, and included agitated letters to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, and even a visit to the newspaper's office, where he met the city editor, as well as a telephone conversation with a writer at the alternative FW Weekly in which he claimed, "My life has been destroyed by these peopleAir Force personnel, Tarrant County sheriff's deputies, the Klan." The fact of his derangement does not, however, render irrelevant the political connections which he seems to have formed during the last years of his life, and which certainly contributed to the homicidal form of his mental breakdown. Despite the report in the Houston Chronicle, later amplified by the Los Angeles Times and Reuters news agency, the fascist connections of the Fort Worth gunman have been generally ignored by the mass media, including the television networks and the New York Times. Instead, there has been an effort to utilize the Fort Worth tragedy to win sympathy for Christian fundamentalist groups and portray them as the target of hate crimesthe slant taken by
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #4
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990922d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : Several nabobs of negativism nattered during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Bombs for Beginners: http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/index.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Discoveries At Teotihuacan's Pyramid Unlock Ancient Mysteries. (SD) Some unexpected new discoveries in the ongoing excavation beneath the Pyramid of the Moon at Teotihuacan may provide critical clues in reconstructing a 2,000-year old history still mysteriously missing from the ruins of the ancient master-planned metropolis, located 25 miles from current Mexico City. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/09/990921071513.htm # Shuttle reveals island's secrets. (BBC) Space Shuttle technology has been used to uncover details of life on a Scottish island in the 12th century. Researchers discovered an archaeological site on the Hebridean Island of Islay. They found previously unknown and largely buried roads or "hollow ways" surrounding the island HQ of the Lords of the Isles at Finlaggan Castle, who were known to be the main economic, military and political power in the Irish Sea during the early Middle Ages. Multispectral radar: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/scotland/newsid_453000/453747.stm : What are your favorite ancient mysteries? Are you solving them with techno magic? Does real magic work better? Are old mysteries better than new ones? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Antarctic Lake Isolated 40 Million Years To Be Explored. Scientists are to explore one of the world's last uncharted natural wonders, a lake trapped beneath the Antarctic ice. Lake Vostok, a body of water the size of Lake Ontario resting more than two miles under the East Antarctic ice cap, is one of the world's 10 largest and one of about 80 lakes that underlie 10% of the Antarctic ice. It may have been isolated for millions of years, giving an opportunity for life to develop along a separate evolutionary path. Black Lagoon creatures? http://sightings.com/politics4/40mil.htm : Would you like to have developed along a separate evolutionary path? What would you be like? Should you be gene-modified to simulate odd evolution?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ozone hole opens again. (BBC) The ozone hole that forms over the Antarctic each year between August and early October has reappeared. Observations made with the Total Ozone Mapping Satellite (TOMS) show that it is near its greatest ever extent, about 26 mln square kilometres (10 mln square miles). http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_454000/454514.stm : Have your HAARP experiments contributed to ozone depletion? Was that your intent? Do you want to fry earth life? Will we be better off dead? For who? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Universe may be newer than thought. (AP) - The celestial yardstick most commonly used for measuring the universe may have to be recalibrated. If a new astronomical analysis is correct, the universe may be expanding faster and be somewhat younger than currently thought. Back to the draw- ing board: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561273855-344 : Do you feel young again? Are the world, the galaxy, the universe, young fresh vital? Is it springtime in Patagonia? Have you reset your clock yet? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sterilised planets - Newly-discovered planets are mostly giants. (BBC) Could our Sun suddenly experience a so-called "superflare" on its surface that could wipe out all life on Earth? That is the possibility, albeit a remote one, that emerges from observations of nearby stars similar to our Sun. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_454000/454265.stm : Are you concerned that a sunflare could wipe out all of life as we know it? Do you look forward to this? Do you work to encourage sunflares? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ I wrote about my experiences of being targeted by a harassment group. I was struck that night by a burst of ultrasonic sound waves to the head after posting it to my web page. They never hit me that hard before so I assumed it was a warning to take down the web page. I wanted to report that I got hit straight between the eyes by some kind of narrow focused sound wave beam this morning. I happened around 3:50 am this morning. It was incredible. My vision went white for about 1 second and you could feel it strike the front of my head. The shot came from the house in the back of mine. It must be around a hundred feet. This targeting system works great, pinpoint accuracy. I guess this was my second warning to take down my web page. Please copy the files at my web page just in case I somehow disappear. This technology really works! See my web pages: http://members.aol.com/ultra21753/ultra.htm
[CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices
-Caveat Lector- Interesting post from Tenebrous. "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety." Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety. There are indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and anti=semitism (2) economic nationalism (3) militarism (4) the strident leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi threat (7) rigid statist social views. As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian. No change for us Interesting too is Perot support for Buchanan if you link this to the post about the Perot-Clinton-Bush coalition. Not surprisingly Perot turns out to be for Hegelian statism and not individual freedom. The inefficiency of the system worries Perot, not so much the basic nature of the system . Useful freedom choices: Paul, Ventura, (Trump?) . Not Buchanan, Perot or Dole.. We need new faces not re treads and certainly not Hegelian re-treads.. ASU DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #5
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990922e - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : I dreamed I saw Saint Augustine during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Multicolor-Text Art: http://www.orchy.com/dictionary/bigdic-t.htm @ AnaCam AnaGram: http://anacam.com/anagram1/index.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Abductions - The Truth. Since the modern era of abductions began with the Barney and Betty Hill UFO close encounter of September 19, 1961 in New Hampshire, ufology has never been the same. Before the Hills' encounter, UFO sightings were investigated in a prescribed, straight forward manner that involved gathering supporting evidence while simultaneously trying to disprove a witness's account. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/abduct2.htm : Is disproof impossible? Does only a moron try to prove a negative? Have you gathered sufficient evidence? Have you gone to another place and time? @ UFOs Through The Ages... A Timeline: http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/historyofufo.htm @ FIRE OFFICERS GUIDE - Disaster Control and UFOs: http://www.channel1.com/users/cci/disaster.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Group promotes standards for 'connected home'. NEW YORK (Reuters) It may not be the Jetsons, but building a "wired" home is becoming easier than you think. A major consortium claims to have devised an easy, affordable standard for wiring homes to efficiently handle everything from heating to lighting to Internet access. "Wiring America's Homes" for less than $2000; see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561271212-ba9 : Would you rather wire your house, your head, a head for a reservation, the White House, the Kremlin, Buckingham Palace, the celestial city, eels? Why? # Taiwan Quake hits computer chip plants - prices to rise: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561271602-c75 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ IF WE BUY BODY ORGANS, WHO IS GOING TO SELL THEM? If we pay for egg and sperm donations, and if people are dying waiting for a new kidney, why shouldn't a kidney donor or donor's family get some compensation as well? http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17307 @ WILL THE CLONERS PUT THE ORGAN SELLERS OUT OF BUSINESS? Yes, if cloning research is allowed to advance without restrictions, then we could develop the ability to grow new organs - and make debates on buying/selling organs moot. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17284 : What body parts would you like to buy, sell, rent, lease? Would you prefer to clone or be cloned? What's your favorite organ? Electric or acoustic? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 2100 AD - Cornell Study Warns Of A Miserable Life On Overcrowded Earth. ITHACA, N.Y. -- 100 years from now, democratically determined population- control practices sound resource-management policies could have Earth's 2 billion people thriving in harmony with the environment. Lacking these approaches, a new Cornell U. study suggests, 12 billion miserable humans will suffer a difficult life on Earth by the year 2100. Only you can prevent overbreeding: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/miserable.htm : Do you like lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of neighbors? Eh? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # North Bay rattled by 4.2 magnitude earthquake. ROHNERT PARK, Calif -- A moderate earthquake measuring 4.2 in magnitude rattled Sonoma County on Wednesday, but no damage or injuries were reported. Full USGS report: http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40105370.html : I was 3 miles from the epicenter when it happened - why didn't I feel it? Am I numb? Did my implant misfire? Did the mind-control rays hypnotize me?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ The First Hypertext Edition of The Dictionary of Phrase and Fable: http://www.bibliomania.com/Reference/PhraseAndFable/index.html @ Is the End near? Check out the track-record of doomsayers: http://www.primenet.com/~heuvelc/skeptic/predictions.htm # Pope pledges Holy Land visit - vows to exorcise demonic Muslims: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561271852-9b7 # Dolphins face uncertain future - hurricane renders them homeless: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561265295-624 # Americans Less Secure Against Terrorism - Threat Grows: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/terrorism_p.htm @ Office of Human Radiation Experiments (OHRE) (DOE) Home Page: http://tis-nt.eh.doe.gov/ohre/ Human Radiation Experiments Archives: http://hrex.dis.anl.gov/ Stakeholders: http://tis-nt.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/events/stakeholders/ # Feds Want Long Island's Plum Island To Be Deadly Test Center: http://www.sightings.com/politics4/fedswant.htm # Challenging UFO Secrecy
[CTRL] [Fwd: [theseries] ASSULT]
I went on the Sightings site (did not use the search - yet) and could not find this. Also, is this true as it is written? Pied Piper -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 Click here for 4 FREE TRIAL ISSUES of Sports Illustrated! If you're satisfied, your subscription will continue at the guaranteed lowest rate of $.75 an issue for 52 issues! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/678 eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/theseries http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications Title: SIGHTINGS SIGHTINGS New Executive Order On Federalism - Latest Assault On The Constitution Comment By Brad Bernards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amending the 10th Amendment -August 10, 1999- On August 5, President Clinton signed an Executive Order on Federalism, the division of power between Washington, D.C. and the States. The President claims Constitutional authority to turn our Constitution on it's head. This executive order, which I have read, seeks to guarantee the division of governmental responsibilities intended by the Framers of the Constitution. The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, part of the Bill of Rights, does not need to be clarified. I have quoted the Constitution before and I proudly do it again: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. That's the tenth amendment, and any attempt by President Clinton to improve on it will most certainly not be to the benefit of the states or the people. This is an outright attempt by the federal government to take from us power we have yet to claim but, nonetheless, is still ours under the Constitution. The Constitution enumerates the powers of the federal government - they are finite and limited intentionally. The President, through each and every agency, would like to impose federal rules and regulations absorbing powers that are, as of yet, unclaimed by the states. The previous attempt to steal away our power last year in Executive Order 13083 was met with much opposition after it was exposed. He had created the document without the input of those affected. It was later suspended, and now revoked as this EO replaces it. Amending the Constitution takes the congress and all 50 States but the President may do it, unnoticed, through an Executive Order The document is clever because it now has the input of many, although we don't know specifically who, and on the surface appears quite benign. The AP reports that state and local officials appear satisfied with the rewritten order. The language of this Executive Order is indeed deferential to the states. The document reads well until you discover that all the input gathered from state and local government, the consulting with state and local officials on developing standards and the opportunity for participation in rulemaking proceedings is just that much talk. I see nowhere in the document that any input be digested at all. Federal agencies will be able to do what they want provided they follow the prescribed method which is not much more than whoops to placate the intergovernmental organizations concerned. The federal government can and will put into force any rule they want with or without the approval of anyone. The White House's own press release says: ...the Order makes clear that federal action is appropriate in the presence of a problem of national scope or significance. This statement by itself admits that the Executive Branch can make anything their business and have an agency create federal rules to govern it. At a time when we need to pare back the federal government, they seem intent on grabbing any remaining power not nailed down by claim of the states or the people. The United States Constitution is a magnificent document and Clinton would do best to read it and follow it. Instead, he's going to fix it. He calls it strengthening the partnership. He says that the Federal government and State and local governments should work together
[CTRL] BATF explosives list from Federal Register
-Caveat Lector- Source: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html I wonder if little bells go off somewhere when all these explosive words go out on the 'net. Is it possible for the snoopers and spooks to be OVERLOADED with useless "information" ? Lot of stuff in the list I've never heard of... fulminate of mercury though... isn't that the stuff that was used with military precision on the Oklahoma Murrah building? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart 15 September 1999 Source: http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html - [Federal Register: September 14, 1999 (Volume 64, Number 177)] [Notices] [Page 49840-49842] From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr14se99-163] --- DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms [Notice No. 880] Commerce in Explosives; List of Explosive Materials Pursuant to the provisions of section 841(d) of title 18, U.S.C., and 27 CFR 55.23, the Director, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, must revise and publish in the Federal Register at least annually a list of explosives determined to be within the coverage of 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40, Importation, Manufacture, Distribution and Storage of Explosive Materials. This chapter covers not only explosives, but also blasting agents and detonators, all of which are defined as explosive materials in section 841(c) of title 18, U.S.C. Accordingly, the following is the 1999 List of Explosive Materials subject to regulation under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 40; it includes both the list of explosives (including detonators) required to be published in the Federal Register and blasting agents. The list is intended to include any and all mixtures containing any of the materials on the list. Materials constituting blasting agents are marked by an asterisk. While the list is comprehensive, it is not all inclusive. The fact that an explosive material may not be on the list does not mean that it is not within the coverage of the law if it otherwise meets the statutory definitions in section 841 of title 18, U.S.C. Explosive materials are listed alphabetically by their common names, followed by chemical names and synonyms in brackets. This revised list supersedes the List of Explosive Materials dated May 1, 1998 (Notice No. 360; 63 FR 24207) and will be effective as of the date of publication in the Federal Register. List of Explosive Materials A Acetylides of heavy metals. Aluminum containing polymeric propellant. Aluminum ophorite explosive. Amatex. Amatol. Ammonal. *Ammonium nitrate explosive mixtures (cap sensitive). [[Page 49841]] *Ammonium nitrate explosive mixtures (non cap sensitive). Aromatic nitro-compound explosive mixtures. Ammonium perchlorate explosive mixtures. Ammonium perchlorate composite propellant. Ammonium picrate [picrate of ammonia, Explosive D] . Ammonium salt lattice with isomorphously substituted inorganic salts. *ANFO [ammonium nitrate-fuel oil]. B Baratol. Baronol. BEAF [1, 2-bis (2, 2-difluoro-2-nitroacetoxyethane)]. Black powder. Black powder based explosive mixtures. *Blasting agents, nitro-carbo-nitrates, including non cap sensitive slurry and water gel explosives. Blasting caps. Blasting gelatin. Blasting powder. BTNEC [bis (trinitroethyl) carbonate]. Bulk salutes. BTNEN [bis (trinitroethyl) nitramine]. BTTN [1,2,4 butanetriol trinitrate]. Butyl tetryl. C Calcium nitrate explosive mixture. Cellulose hexanitrate explosive mixture. Chlorate explosive mixtures. Composition A and variations. Composition B and variations. Composition C and variations. Copper acetylide. Cyanuric triazide. Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine [RDX]. Cyclotetramethylenetetranitramine [HMX]. Cyclonite [RDX]. Cyclotol. D DATB [diaminotrinitrobenzene]. DDNP [diazodinitrophenol]. DEGDN [diethyleneglycol dinitrate]. Detonating cord. Detonators. Dimethylol dimethyl methane dinitrate composition. Dinitroethyleneurea. Dinitroglycerine [glycerol dinitrate]. Dinitrophenol. Dinitrophenolates. Dinitrophenyl hydrazine. Dinitroresorcinol. Dinitrotoluene-sodium nitrate explosive mixtures. DIPAM. Dipicryl sulfone. Dipicrylamine. Display fireworks. DNPD [dinitropentano nitrile]. DNPA [2,2-dinitropropyl acrylate]. Dynamite. E EDDN [ethylene diamine dinitrate]. EDNA. Ednatol. EDNP [ethyl 4,4-dinitropentanoate]. Erythritol tetranitrate explosives. Esters of nitro-substituted alcohols. EGDN [ethylene glycol dinitrate]. Ethyl-tetryl. Explosive conitrates. Explosive gelatins. Explosive mixtures containing oxygen-releasing inorganic salts and hydrocarbons. Explosive mixtures containing oxygen-releasing inorganic salts and nitro bodies. Explosive mixtures containing oxygen-releasing inorganic salts and water insoluble fuels. Explosive mixtures containing oxygen-releasing inorganic salts
[CTRL] z magazine archives, alpha listing by author
Title: Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart z magazine archives, alpha listing by author http://www.lbbs.org/ZMag/zarticles.htm A Jan Adams Proposition 187 Lessons David Adelson Pacifica Eqbal Ahmed Eqbal Ahmed Interview Michael Albert Impeachable Offense : Clinton as Desert Fox in the Henhouse Looking Back, Moving Forward Rorty the Public Philosopher Rorty the Politico Class, Race, Sex?! How Many People / OLS Universal Grammar Linguistics Evaluating Economics Theories of Evolution Chaos Theory Interview of Pat Scott The Second Media Conference The Stickiness Problem Cambodia Controversy What Makes Alternative Media Alternative The UPS Strike The Personal is Political My Generation Natural Capitalism? Glory Days Stop The Killing Train Resurrect The R Word Buying Dreams Mass Media: Theirs and Ours Albert Canadian Dimension Interview Conversations with Noam Chomsky Marketeers?! Back to Class Markets Uber Alles? Nobel Nuttiness Nobels and Us Dear Robert Rhetoric Versus Reality Participatory Economics Interview Participatory Economics Cuba Sí GoodBye Soviets? Revolutions In The East Earth and Taxes Deficit and Debt?! Convert To What? The Canon Rationalism Post-Modernism Sokal 2 Anti Rationalism Rationalism Catherine MacKinnnon and Pornography Conspiracy Theory JFK And U.S. Free Speech and Racism Same Old (White Boy's) Song Uncle Thomas Jackson Vs. Technocracy What Rainbow, Where? What Should Jackson Want? Million Man March Catch 22s David Duke and Domestic Fascism Hooked and Wired 1 Hooked and Wired 2 Population Problem?! The Chameleon Effect A Triumphant New Year Panama's Lessons After The "Turkey Shoot" Gulf War Pullout TV Guide?! At The Breaking Point? Can We Win? A Serious Left Electoral Program Funding Fiasco History's End: A Drug Den?! Live Outside The Law Shut It Down Take What's Ours We Can Win! We Will Disrupt Post-War Roundup Autonomy Within Solidarity Pacifica Introduction to Participatory Economics Lectures Participatory Economics Lecture 1 Participatory Economics Lecture 2 Participatory Economics Lecture 3 Participatory Economics Lecture 4 Participatory Economics Lecture 5 Participatory Economics Lecture 6 Participatory Economics Lecture 7 Participatory Economics Lecture 8 Participatory Economics Lecture 9 Participatory Economics Lecture 10 Ted Allen Be Fair: Reverse Discrimination Mark Anderson Achieving Libre John Anner Community Safety and Police Accountability Simon Archer Export, Eh Anthony Arnove An Interview With Allan Nairn David Austin Oh Canada B David Bacon The GM Strike Oaklland's Garbage Sweatshop A New Europe Unionizing at UCSF High Tech Transportation Workers Maquiladora Workers Elect Their First Independent Union Labor Organizing - The Revolt In The Asbestos West Coast Janitors Get Ready to Fight Labor Earthquake in LA Does the Border have to Feel Like Bosnia Under NAFTA the movement of money won't be stopped The Coming Electrical Wars Taking on the Tortilla King The War in the Teamsters Korean Workers Shut Down the Chaebols Still Hungry Eleanor Bader Beyond Gay or Straight Jeff Balch How Much Is Enough?: Daniel Barkley Immigration Joseph Barnes The End of Racism Skip Barry:
[CTRL] Waco - pied piper [1]
-Caveat Lector- I have had this in my drafts for a couple of weeks and even though all the research links are not in - thought I better post - while I have the time to. the Pied Piper little known fact: Bush Jr. has just bought land in McLennan county, close to the town of Crawford - which is also close to one of the major dairies in this area. This is important because * McLennan county is Waco, * the two year college in Waco is called McLennan Community College * Waco has had a running battle with dairy(s) waste in the water shed (Waco Lake) * Will he be testing Monsanto's GM seed on his acres? * How many herbicides and pesticides will he add? * There is (was in Aug and early Sept 1999) a billboard (in Belmead) a satellite town of Waco - That asks "Will U.N. troops come to Texas?" * the city line of Belmead is also the city line of Lacy Lakeview where Raytheon of (Raytheon Missile Systems) is also located. * the government has some chemical weapons - what delivery system do they use? Could Monsanto be one of the chemical companies, since Monsanto also produced Agent Orange? Could Monsanto, Raytheon, Bush, and the Branch Davidians be conected? * What nationality would the troops be? So, U.N. just thought to be U.N., or with the complete knowledge of the U.N.? * What religion were the branch Davidians practicing? with talk of children - people being burned and drowned? Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Child Abuse At Waco (2) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:10:50 EDT From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **Who did David Koresh have a shoot out with for control of the Branch Davidians? the person who was their leader had also run for US President and had to have some contacts at the government level. Could he have been thought of as one of the choices until Clinton came into the lime light? * in Texas it is our God given right to home school but look what and the Christian religion was not the start of homeschooling BUT That Home Schoolers Need to be under the Umbrella of a Church or Religious Group. http://www.home-ed-press.com/INF/FREE/hsinfo_far1.html * Bush Jr. is talking about taking money from the underachieving schools and giving it to private schools. America's private schools are primarily religious ones which have not really been under state or government control - unless they start using government funds (start using that cookie jar) * Bush Sr. pedophile [1] * Bush Sr. losing companies because he used them to help the Germans against America * Belgium pedophiles * Belgium NATO * shirk convention in Switzerland in 2000 Bottom line how do you control people in space to tie them to you where you would have control? * make it where they could not have young [1] Tarpley, Webster G. Anton Chaiktin. "The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush" 1992. 15 Apr. 99 "http://www.radix.net/~tarpley/bushb.htm#Table" This book follows the Bush family connections from 1914 to the present. From the time of George's grandfather, Samuel P. Bush, the Bush family has attempted to stay involved in politics. The book seems to show that since the family could not rate by having royal blood lines (or if they did that they were not of the best mind set) or by having a high degree of education, that they would try to control by a philosophy of "The one with the most money makes the rules." They believe in "racial cleansing" and have cultivated people like Adolph Hitler. Ewall, Mike. "It's no accident that Coors is the right beer in America." Corporate Accountability Project 12 Dec. 1995. 15 Apr. 1999 http://www.corporations.org/coors/index.html Mike Ewall's article Should be titled "The Other Adolph, Adolph Coors of Coors beer." This article details Coors connections with Ex-President Bush and how Coors and Bush both have a policy of "Racial Cleansing." Coors is anti-environmental, anti-gay and seemingly against anything and anyone that stands in their way of making money. Rockefeller Drug Censor Empire ftp://ftp.tetrahedron.org/pub/Rockefeller_Drug_Censor_Empire.txt Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL
[CTRL] Tyson poultry to irradiate some foods to neutralize bacteria
-Caveat Lector- (Maybe irradiation will help Tyson launder the profits from the drug smuggling operations in Arkansas? --SW) Tyson poultry to irradiate some foods to neutralize bacteria Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By CHUCK BARTELS LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (September 21, 1999 7:48 a.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - The nation's biggest poultry producer plans to test-market irradiated foods to consumers, joining a move to embrace a decades-old food safety process that astronauts have used but that has never been widely accepted on Earth. Tyson Foods Inc. said Monday it believes there is a market for irradiated food. It will sterilize its poultry from potentially harmful bacteria with a process that uses electron beams, rather than the other form or irradiation that relies on low-level doses of gamma rays. "We have come to the conclusion in our research and evaluation of consumer acceptance that now is the time to take this step," said Tyson spokesman Archie Schaffer III from the company's Springdale, Ark. headquarters. Tyson has contracted with San Diego-based Titan Corp., which will irradiate Tyson products at a facility in Sioux City, Iowa, set to open next month. Other food processors are to have meat irradiated at the facility as well, officials from both companies said. Tyson will be the first poultry company involved. Meatpacker giants IBP Inc. and Excel Corp. disclosed plans earlier this year to treat meat irradiated by Titan. Tyson and Titan are to spend the next several months developing packaging and labeling and testing products. Tyson said a market test could come early next year. Only a portion of Tyson products will be irradiated and they will be clearly labeled as such. Schaffer said the proportion and types of products have not been determined. In a statement, Tyson said it does not regard irradiation as a panacea for eliminating harmful bacteria from food and that consumers using its irradiated products will still have to handle the meat safely and make sure it is fully cooked. Caroline Smith DeWaal, director of food safety for the Center for Science in the Public Interest, said the group does not have any strenuous objection to the electron-beam method. "For consumers, irradiated foods are likely to contain many fewer bacteria and, potentially, no bacteria. It is safer from a microbiological standpoint than foods that have not been irradiated," DeWaal said. DeWaal said irradiation can result in some vitamin content being reduced but said that is of slim concern, assuming only a tiny portion of a person's diet is irradiated. The poultry industry would do better to make plants cleaner, rather than relying on irradiation to sanitize food on the back end of production, she said. Also, DeWaal said consumers want to know whether food has been irradiated. The government requires irradiated products be labeled. Tyson said it prefers informational labels rather than warning labels. Irradiation has been used for years on limited amounts of produce, spices, poultry and other foods. But only a few small retailers have offered irradiated products. On a space mission last year, John Glenn and his fellow astronauts ate irradiated food. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] EPA reconsidering decision to bury radioactive soil in Denver
-Caveat Lector- (Don't worry about humans, just bury it... :-( EPA reconsidering decision to bury radioactive soil in Denver Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By JUDITH KOHLER DENVER (September 21, 1999 3:54 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - Back in 1991, the Environmental Protection Agency thought a creative idea for entombing contaminated soil at the old Shattuck Chemical Co. plant had literally laid the problem to rest. Now that decision may come back to haunt the agency. Instead of digging up the more than 50,000 cubic yards of radioactive dirt and hauling it away, the EPA decided to mix it with concrete and fly ash and bury it on the spot under rock and clay, creating a tomb designed to last hundreds of years. City leaders and residents of the blue-collar neighborhood surrounding the Shattuck Superfund Site contend the waste is sinking and fear that contamination may have already seeped into water supplies. They are demanding the tomb be dug up and shipped out of state. "That's supposed to last 2,000 years," neighborhood resident Irma Zimmerman said as she stood, hands on hips, surveying the unmarked chain-link fence surrounding the 10-foot mound of rocks that stretches nearly two blocks. "But if it can't make it through one or two years, I don't know what's going to happen." Neighbors say photos and videotape of the "hot rocks" - as Zimmerman calls them - show that they are sinking. The EPA's ombudsman has launched an investigation to determine if the buried waste really is settling and whether it poses a health risk to the neighborhood, which is about four miles from downtown. In its preliminary findings, an independent firm, S. Cohen Associates of McLean, Va., found no immediate threat but said the EPA failed to address long-term effects, the extent of groundwater contamination and possible runoff into the nearby South Platte River. "The major concern here is the protection of the citizens of Denver and the people around the site, not just in the near term, but also in the long term," said Assistant EPA Administrator Tim Fields. Fields said he expects to decide by November what to do about the waste. "It's clear to me right now, at a minimum, some changes are going to have to be made," he said. From the early 1920s to 1984, Shattuck operated a plant at the site, processing uranium, radium, molybdenum and rhenium for such things as X-ray equipment and glow-in-the-dark clocks and gauges. The soil and groundwater became contaminated. EPA and state health officials initially proposed shipping the waste out of state but decided the best plan was to bury it on the site. The decision has been criticized ever since by residents and city officials. "We're not at all confident we know what's at the site," said Celia VanDerLoop, a city environmental-health supervisor. The city of Denver has filed notice of its intent to sue. Some neighbors believe the waste was buried rather than removed because it is a working-class neighborhood, home to modest bungalows and such businesses as lumber yards and auto-repair shops. That allegation is part of the EPA investigation. Officials with the EPA and Shattuck said the decision to bury the waste on the spot came down to cost and to uncertainty about the ability of the company that was managing the only place the radioactive soil could have been shipped, a waste dump in Utah. Federal law also gave preference to on-site solutions, said Rebecca Thomas, former EPA project manager. Shattuck officials will not object to waste removal; they just do not want to pay for it, said attorney John Faught. Shattuck paid more than $26 million for the cleanup. Removing the waste would have cost $46 million. The investigation itself has been fraught with controversy. EPA employees have refused to cooperate unless the interviews are off-the record. And Sen. Wayne Allard, R-Colo., held up Fields' appointment until the agency agreed to investigate. Allard wants EPA executives to promise to release all documents on Shattuck and to make staffers available for on-the-record interviews. "Why is it they're reluctant to share that information?" asked Allard, who hasn't taken a position on what should be done with the waste. Hugh Kaufman, the ombudsman's chief investigator on Shattuck, said: "The office has always had access to EPA personnel for on-the-record interviews. It's the first time it's been stonewalled by a regional office." EPA Regional Administrator Bill Yellowtail has said some information must remain confidential because of pending lawsuits. Last spring, EPA officials in Denver released some previously secret records, including one showing the agency's radiation-control expert believed burying the waste was the wrong choice. Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) Idea of the Week: The Software Solution For The
-Caveat Lector- These people have no idea what "Fair" taxation is about...they have shown us that already...if they get in they will never stop...they will be the mob on the internet...perhaps the lessening of budgets is good...if every body carried weaponry there would be a LOT less crime, and policing wasn't a thing until after the civil war and the consolidation of power by what was to become the Federal Reserve...if such a huge percentage of the taxation today wasn't wasted in pork we could do with about 25% of what they are taking now and lessen it even further through efficiency in another decade...the controllers understand economic strife as whip though, and utilize it to its fullest through glamour media, copyrighted law, and fearb Alamaine Ratliff wrote: -Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- The DLC Update Tuesday, September 21, 1999 * In this Update: * Idea of the Week: The "Software Solution" for the Internet Sales Tax * Under the Budgetary Big Top * Gore On Universal Health Care New Democrat Idea Exchange: Discuss the Idea of the Week and see what other New Dems are saying at http://www.dlc.org/idea/discussion.htm . New comments are posted weekly. * ***Idea of the Week: The "Software Solution" For The Internet Sales Tax*** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WAS HILL'S SCHOOL VISIT RIGGED?
-Caveat Lector- WAS HILL'S SCHOOL VISIT RIGGED? By SUSAN EDELMAN and ROBERT HARDT Jr. A Board of Education mem-ber has accused Hillary Rod-ham Clinton of using White House influence to visit a Queens junior high on the first day of school to advance her likely Senate campaign. Board member Jerry Cammarata of Staten Island - an appointee of Mayor Giuliani, Mrs. Clinton's likely opponent in the race - complained that her exploratory campaign committee, which requested the visit, got a "possible inappropriate permission" after it asked the White House "to intervene." In a "confidential" memo to Chancellor Rudy Crew last week, Cammarata cited Board of Ed rules forbidding schools to take part in events "for the furtherance of any politically partisan interests." Cammarata did not say what evidence he had that the White House helped the first lady. He was said to be out of town and did return calls yesterday. Howard Wolfson, Mrs. Clinton's spokesman, called the accusations "totally and categorically false." "It wasn't a political event," Wolfson said of Clinton's return to Virgil Grissom JHS in South Ozone Park, where she had served as honorary "principal for the day" on April 29. "Politics wasn't discussed," Wolfson said of Cammarata's complaint. During the back-to-school visit Sept. 9, the first lady said she was keeping her promise to thrilled kids to return to the school. She also cited Virgil Grissom as an example of the problem of overcrowded schools. Sources close to the first lady acknowledged that the campaign committee arranged the visit - and that Crew gave his blessing to the event. "We were told that a visit would be fine, and the principal welcomed us - just as long as it wasn't disruptive," said one source, who asked not to be named. Crew asked Mrs. Clinton "to keep the number of press feasible," the source said, and the committee complied. One Board of Ed official, who asked to remain anonymous, said the school got a call directly from the "White House advance team." But Crew spokeswoman Karen Crowe denied the White House ever contacted the Board of Ed, saying it was arranged "locally" through the school. Crew was asked to review the proposed visit in advance - and did nothing to stop it, she said. "She is not a declared candidate," Crowe said of Mrs. Clinton. "As a first lady, she has a right to visit our schools, just as any public figure does." "Until there's a declaration of candidacy - and even after that - she still is the first lady," she said. "Just as if the governor decides to run for another office, he's still the governor, or if the mayor runs for another office, he's still the mayor and he's still going to be welcome in the schools. We're in a bind." Mayor Giuliani's press secretary, Sunny Mindel, had no comment on Cammarata's letter. The White House referred questions to Clinton's committee. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need
[CTRL] The End is Nigh
-Caveat Lector- Is the End near? Check out the track-record of doomsayers ... http://www.primenet.com/~heuvelc/skeptic/predictions.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: The Problem With Banks
-Caveat Lector- The following exchange was published in the British humour magazine, Punch, on April 3, 1957. It is reprinted here: Q. What are banks for? A. To make money. Q. For the customers? A. For the banks. Q. Why doesn't bank advertising mention this? A. It would not be in good taste. But it is mentioned by implication in references to reserves of $249,000,000 or thereabouts. That is the money they have made. Q. Out of customers? A. I suppose so. Q. They always mention assets of $500,000,000 or thereabouts. Have they made that too? A. Not exactly. That is the money they use to make money. Q. I see. And (do) they keep it in a safe somewhere? A. Not at all. They lend it to (their) customers. Q. Then they haven't got it? A. No. Q. Then how is it Assets? A. They maintain it would be if they got it back. Q. But they must have some back? A. Yes, usually about $500,000,000 or thereabouts. This is called Liabilities. Q. But if they've got it how can they be liable for it? A. Because it isn't theirs. Q. Then why do they have it? A. It has been lent to them by (their) customers. Q. You mean that customers lend banks money? A. In effect. They put money into their accounts, so it is really lent to the banks. Q. And what do banks do with it? A. Lend it to other customers. Q. But you said that money lent to other people was Assets? A. Yes. Q. Then Assets and Liabilities must be the same thing? A. You can't really say that. Q. But you've just said it. If I put $100 into my account the bank is liable to have to pay it back, so its Liabilities. But they go and lend it to someone else, and he is liable to have to pay it back, so it's Assets. It's the same $100, isn't it? Q. Then it cancels out. It means, doesn't it, that banks haven't any money at all? A. Theoretically.. Q. Never mind, theoretically. And if they haven't made any money where do they get their Reserves of $249,000,000 or thereabouts? A. I told you. That is the money they have made. Q. How? A. Well, when they lend your $100 to someone they charge him interest. Q. How much? A. It depends on the Bank Rate. Say five and a half per cent. That's their profit. Q. Why isn't it my profit? Isn't it my money? A. It's the theory of banking practise that... Q. When I lend them my $100 why don't I charge them interest? A. You do. Q. You don't say. How much? A. It depends on the Bank Rate. Say half of a per cent. Q. Grasping of me, rather? A. But that's only if you're not going to draw the money out again. Q. But of course, I'm going to draw the money out again. If I hadn't wanted to draw it out again I could have buried it in the garden couldn't I? A. They wouldn't want you to draw it out again. Q. Why not? If I keep it there you say its a Liability. Wouldn't they be glad if I reduced their Liabilities by removing it? A. No. Because if you remove it they can't lend it to anyone else. Q. But if I wanted to remove it they'd have to let me? A. Certainly. Q. But suppose they've already lent it to another customer? A. Then they'd let you have someone else's money. Q. But suppose he wants his money too...and they've let me have it? A. You're being purposely obtuse. Q. I think I'm being acute. What if everyone wanted their money at once? A. It's the theory of banking practise that they never would. Q. So what banks bank on is never having to meet their commitments? A. I wouldn't say that. Q. Naturally. Well, if there's nothing else you think you can tell me...? A. Quite so. Now you can go off and open a banking account. Q. Just one last question. A. Of course. Q. Wouldn't I do a lot better to go off and open up a bank? --- ONElist Sponsor Share your special moments with family and friends- send PHOTO Greetings at Zing.com! Use your own photos or choose from a variety of funny, cute, cool and animated cards. a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/zing9 "Click Here/a "He who has health has hope,and he who has hope has everything." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives
[CTRL] FBI WARNED PREZ OF NEW FALN TERROR
-Caveat Lector- From the NY Post, http://www.nypost.com/news/14397.htm - FBI WARNED PREZ OF NEW FALN TERROR By BRIAN BLOMQUIST WASHINGTON - FBI Director Louis Freeh warned President Clinton the Puerto Rican militants he was freeing "would likely" return to their violent ways, new papers reveal. Freeh warned that clemency "would likely return committed, experienced, sophisticated and hardened terrorists to the clandestine movement" known as the Armed Forces for National Liberation (FALN in Spanish), a group responsible for 130 bombings and six deaths. Freeh's strongly worded advice, which came out yesterday at a congressional hearing on the FALN uproar, shows that Clinton knew that future violence was a risk when he freed the Puerto Rican terrorists. "Few of the current prisoners have expressed remorse for their crimes or for their victims; rather, most remained committed to violence as a means to achieve Puerto Rican independence," Freeh advised the Justice Department, which sent along his advice to the White House. White House spokesman Jim Kennedy responded that "these cases are inevitably difficult and often controversial - and on any given clemency case there is likely to be some in law enforcement who just say no. That's understandable and we respect that." Freeh revealed his advice on the FALN controversy in a letter to House Judiciary Committee Chairman Henry Hyde (R-Ill.). That letter was unsigned, undated and never sent to Hyde because Attorney General Janet Reno ordered that it stay secret, FBI spokesman Dave Miller said last night. But Miller confirmed the letter's authenticity and said Freeh wrote it within the past few weeks, as Clinton was weighing whether to invoke executive privilege to conceal papers and gag aides on why he granted clemency. Clinton claimed executive privilege last week. Freeh's letter was handed out by Rep. Henry Waxman, the top Democrat on the House Government Reform Committee, which held a hearing on the FALN controversy. Waxman also handed out a letter from Clinton offering his first detailed defense of his clemency offer. In a five-page letter to Waxman, Clinton wrote that "political considerations played no role in the process" - an effort to douse speculation that he originally agreed to the clemency offer to help Hillary Rodham Clinton pick up the Hispanic vote in her presumed New York Senate campaign. Clinton pinned some of the blame on his counsel, Charles Ruff, who recently left his White House job to go back to a private law practice. Ruff played a major role in getting Clinton acquitted in his Senate impeachment trial. "The timing of my decision was dictated by the fact that [Ruff] ... committed to many of those interested in this issue that he would consult with the Department of Justice and make a recommendation in early August," Clinton wrote to Waxman. Clinton said he freed the convicted terrorists because they would have received a more lenient sentence under the sentencing guidelines that started after they were jailed - but Clinton said he "rejected" the claim that they were "political prisoners." Also at yesterday's hearing, a top Bureau of Prisons official said the White House never asked the bureau for its advice on whether to grant clemency to the 16 terrorists. Michael Cooksey, the bureau's assistant director of corrections, said some of the terrorists had an "extreme propensity to violence or escape." Neil Gallagher, the FBI's assistant director of national security, said, "I think they are criminals. They are terrorists, and they represent a threat to the United States." -- Dan S DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] It will happen,if WE MAKE IT HAPPEN!! [otherwise an AgeOfD
-Caveat Lector- Sno0wl wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 21 Sep 99, , Bard wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Linda, He's the son of a different clan, but he's Scotch-Irish to the bone and a true American, so I think he's as close to a modern day William Wallace as we're ever going to get. Of course, I'm talking about Pat Buchanan. Thanks to Pat's courage in abandoning a Republican Party that no longer even pretends to represent him or us, here's what we could see sometime in January, 2001 -- and all it will take is a Golden 35% of the electorate voting for Pat: The President of the United States, Patrick J. Buchanan!!! The idea is chilling to me. I mean, hey, I like it that he's against NAFTA and GATT and all that, but his attitudes towards people, his blatant racism and anti-Semitism, make his candidacy a pretty terrifying prospect to me. Don't we have someone who's against all the bad stuffand for some of the good stuff, too? sno0wl It's a tough call but if you want to stop the NWO and set it back a few years, only Buchanan will do it. He will dismantle those awful institutions that they have been building up all these years. Whatever you do, don't vote for a DemocRAT or Republican. Buchanan is a prick, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: b-b-b photo1
-Caveat Lector- What did the bumper sticker say. I couldn't get the file attachment because my juno account won't allow me. Thanks, Rooster On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:49:11 +1200 earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: cydonia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 5:58 PM Subject: Fw: b-b-b photo1 Hello Everyone, The following photo is from a Friend in Atlanta. This picture is very recent, Sept. Four pics total have been sent. These stickers are appearing on private vehicles in Atlanta. Friend investigated who and what these identify. The answer he has consistantly recieved is they belong to Law Enforcement. No further info is available at this time. If any of you see any of these in any other part of the US or Canada please pass teh word along. I will clean your amail and name off and pass them on to the group. Big THANX to FRIEND in Atlanta for this! Warmest regards, Roger - Original Message - From: Friend... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:21 PM Subject: b-b-b photo1 -- -- eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dragonslayers http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- Annunaki.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"? It has been proposed that the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that regularly impacted the earth from outer space. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"? It has been proposed that the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that regularly impacted the earth from outer space. I think it is called Panspermia. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Waco Resources [url's and two articles]
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[CTRL] Robert J. Samuelson comments
-Caveat Lector- NEW YORK -- For Newsweek (6 ix '99, 'Do We Care About Truth?'), the distinguished economics columnist Robert J. Samuelson considers the debate on the eugenic results of abortion which the New York Times took two weeks to report (McDNLs August '99). Samuelson agrees with Chicago biodiversity polymath Steve Sailer that some of America's crime decrease in the 1990's may instead have been due to inner-city addicts of crack cocaine having finished each other off in orgies of Black-on-Black shootings in the 1980's. But Samuelson is chiefly concerned with the East Coast media's repression of the story: "The Chicago Tribune broke the study with a front-page story, but most coverage has been minimal. The Washington Post ran a short story on page A-9; The New York Times story (on A-14) didn't appear for almost two weeks." Samuelson concludes: "it's delusional to pretend that something as common as abortion is without social consequences. We cannot find them unless we look. The trouble is that in modern America people often won't search for what they fear they might find." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/22/99 9:28:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"? It has been proposed that the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that regularly impacted the earth from outer space. I think it is called Panspermia. I believe you are correct. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Smyrna
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/17/1999 1:35:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just remember: a haggis in the hand is worth two in the bush... (Actually, a haggis in the hand is extremely messy!) Well if you hold it gently, it won't mind too much. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Temporary Autonomous Zones
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Re: [CTRL] Environment
-Caveat Lector- Imagine if we decided to run ourselves into the ground because we didn't like the fact that someone was going to profit from our purchases of solar panels, etc. Would that be principle or natural selection? If we decide to be that stupid then I am all for making more room for cockroaches. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Prozac Story SPIKED
The report that Prozac was found in the home of Larry Gene Ashbrook, who went on a murder spree in a Texas church, has suddenly changed. The AP reports that investigator "Lt. Mark Krey retracted his earlier remarks in which he said police found a vial of the antidepressant Prozac with Ashbrook's name on it." [1] The new story is that the only medications in the house were his fathers, but the father of Larry is named Jack -- two different names! How could police have mistaken a vial with the name "Jack" on it for one with the name "Larry" on it? The initial report states: "A doctor had prescribed the anti- depressant drug Prozac for Larry Gene Ashbrook ... police found a Prozac vial with Ashbrook's name and want to ask doctors why it was prescribed. ... FBI officials said they ALSO found nine vials of prescription drugs for Jack Ashbrook..." (emphasis added) [2] So the initial report clearly indicates that a distinction had been made between vials with "Larry" on them and vials with "Jack" on them, since nine vials belonged to Jack and one vial belonged to Larry. It also stipulates that since the Prozac vial was Larry's, they planned to take the next step of contacting the doctor who made the prescription, which indicates that they were really sure it said "Larry," not "Jack." Furthermore, the initial Star-Telegram report said that Larry's father was "his anchor to reality and his caretaker to ensure he took his medication." But now it seems that his father did not ensure he took his medication because it suddenly seems that he took no medication. There out is to say he took another medication. Gee, this certainly appears to have all the sings of a cover-up. In fact, such a dramatic change of story is prima-facie evidence of a cover-up. The WorldNetDaily recently reported that anti-psychiatry activist Dennis Clarke "...claims that pharmaceutical companies go to great lengths and expense to cover up the problems that take place. When an incident of violence occurs, the pharmaceutical "crash teams" go to work to keep things quiet, according to Clarke. Teams of psychiatrists are sent to the places where incidents take place and quickly work to see that medical records are kept sealed, doctors are convinced to remain silent, and victims are given monetary payments to prevent them from ever going to court. "It's all being covered up, and it's deliberate. There are billions and billions of dollars at stake here," explained Clarke. ..." [3] Think how easy it could be, a couple million dollars could change a lot of stories, like maybe the one that just changed. Such expenses could easily be less than the loses in sales that would occur if people realize that these drugs are harmful and if law suits start rolling in not only from users but the people they killed. Clearly, there needs to be an investigation of this now-we-found-it-now-we-didn't investigation. ___ [1] AP: Police retract remarks about drugs found: http://www.express-news.net/auth/ennews/ap/texas/d0645.html [2] The Star-Telegram: Prozac found at Wedgwood Baptist killer's house. By Kathy Sanders 9/20/99: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:METRO22/1:METRO22092199.html http://www.star-telegram.com/news/doc/1047/1:DFW2/1:DFW2092199.html [3] http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bresnahan/19990429_xex_doping_our_k.shtml GODDARD'S JOURNAL: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm
[CTRL] Fwd: Louisiana high school tags students
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990922_xex_louis iana_hi.shtml WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 22 1999 YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE... Louisiana high school tags students Security's the reason, but privacy activists don't like it By Stephan Archer © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com In an effort to tighten up security during school hours, administrators at Ruston High School in Ruston, La., have issued a policy that requires both students and faculty to wear identification badges complete with photograph, name and Social Security numbers encrypted at the bottom. According to Charles Scriber, principal at the high school, cafeteria workers, custodians and administrators must wear them as well. "It's like a name tag when you go to a conference," Scriber said of the badges. "On a campus such as ours that is fairly open from all sides, we want to be able to identify our students. It would be very possible for students (from other schools) to come on campus and get among our students, and we would not be able to identify them until some time later. But with the badge, at a glance, we can see if they are ours or if they are not ours." WorldNetDaily had reported earlier on a similar policy in Elkins, W.Va., where a teacher and a small group of students and parents protested their school's identification program on religious grounds. Besides being used for identification purposes, the badges are used by the students in the cafeteria and the library. It functions much like other ID cards carried by students with the difference being that this card has to be visible at all times during the students' or faculty members' time on campus. The Social Security number at the bottom of the card has been encrypted into a bar code, but according to Scriber, if the students feel uncomfortable with the bar code, they can either cover it up or have it removed. Even though the student body at the school has this option, some privacy advocates are concerned that forcing the more than 1,200 students to wear the badges may be little more than a conditioning to accept the idea of having less privacy. "I think it's a conditioning," said Lisa Dean, vice president for technology policy at Free Congress Foundation. "The whole issue of national ID is really at the center here." Dean is referring to the national identification card which was first reported by WorldNetDaily. The national ID card is the brainchild of the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, which requires, in part, that all states make their driver's licenses comply with certain guidelines including the use of the Social Security number and other digitized biometric information such as fingerprints, retina scans and DNA prints. But does Ruston High School policy violate the privacy of its students? Solveig Singleton, director of information studies at the CATO Institute, doesn't think so. "I don't think the Federal Privacy Act would be applied to a locally administered school," Singleton said. "You might be able to make an argument there because the Social Security number is involved - - it is federal -- but generally, I think the regulation of the schools would be left to the state." Singleton expressed concern, however, that from a philosophical point of view, the identification badge is very disturbing. "Once you create that kind of identifier, it just spreads throughout every day life and pretty soon, you can't walk down the street without it. That's an extreme example, but I think that's the serious issue here," said Singleton. Dean agrees with Singleton that the school is, in essence, creating a trend that could very easily spread to other aspects of American society. "Sooner or later, you're going to have a national identity card, and it will start in the high schools conditioning a generation of Americans to say that a national identity card is not only useful and convenient but necessary," said Dean. "That's the real privacy violation." "Things tend to start out small, but they end up getting larger. This is no exception," Dean added. Scriber told WorldNetDaily he got a legal opinion from one of the school's attorneys giving him the go ahead on the policy. He had looked at the Social Security Act as well and nowhere did he find any language pertaining to the use of Social Security numbers in encrypted codes. Nevertheless, at least one parent and two students have already complained about the policy. Scriber insists the new policy will help to achieve the school's goal of tighter security. Being able to identify a student and call them by name is a tremendous advantage, Scriber pointed out. Scriber said he has also noticed a difference in the students' behavior as it makes them feel more responsible. According to unverified reports which the principal himself had heard about, one student has been able to decipher the encryption. However, the principal doesn't believe this poses a security threat to students since it takes the student
Re: [CTRL] [SC] SmartOlogy
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Skeptics list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SkeptiChat list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ConspiracyTheory [EMAIL PROTECTED]; InTheShadows [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SC] SmartOlogy Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 5:49 PM - Original Message - From: ob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SC] Skeptic News - Tuesday #3 # Trial of Scientologists begins. MARSEILLE, France (AP) - http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561237002-143 : Are you human? Can your problems be solved by technology? Do you belong to a techno-church? Are you expensive? Do you defraud? Do y'r documents vanish? ...you best be carefull what you say about the scientologists or you'll be sending your skeptic news from bankruptcy court till they get your computer and domain name. You may notice that I was careful to merely quote from a published news source and ask some questions. YOU, OTOH, made the strategic blunder of actually using the name of the organization. Not prudent. For safety's sake, always refer to the group as SmartOlogy, and to its founder as ElRon HubbaHubba. Otherwise they'll devour you. Very wise, Ric. NO ONE would ever recognize SmartOlogy as that OTHER organization. Oh, wait, I just didh...I think your plan needs some work. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [InTheShadows] Free Energy
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: ob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SC] Re: Skeptic News - Tuesday #2 # International Tesla Electric Company 1999 Technology Tour. Live Demonstrations of Free Energy. ... The primary reason for this tour is to get the word out to people that this technology exists and that we plan SOON to come forth with a product that can set them free of the central power grid. In order to do that we need a grass roots mandate from the people. http://www.teslaelectriccompany.com/free_look.htm What's your take on this device and Denis Lee? Hilary Anything that's free is generally worth every penny. TANSTAAFL. Or else we get "The Tragedy Of The Commons" - "free" stuff is wasted. ...hi, first- before moving to california- i was originally from westmilford nj - thats the same township as newfoundland - and a. there isn't no such company b. dennis lee looks an awfull lot like john wilkes booth and c. i did searches on the company, a reverse lookup on the fax number and none are listed in any way shape or form. Well, actually, a friend of mine lives out that way and has toured the facility so, it does exist. However, you may be on to something about the John Wilkes Booth thingBut, back to my original question, What's your take on this device and Denis Lee? "Many are scammed but few are listed." Hey, the whole approach of needing a "public mandate" to get "free of the central power grid" is bogus. Ya want grid freedom? Put up solar cells. Then sell your excess power *to* the grid. In my coastal county north of San Francisco, I've heard reports that an investment of US$10,000 will give a return of $5K per year. I'm very likely to do just that next year. For more info, surf over to http://www.realgoods.com/ Thanks, I'll check it out. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] miscellany
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty_com/19990922_x cjod_liberals_d.shtml WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 22 1999 Liberals don't solve problems Plus: Has Annan lost his mind? © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com So, you're still a liberal after seven years of Bill Clinton and decades of liberal activists making your life miserable from the bully pulpits of the bureaucratic agencies? That's too bad; maybe this story will finally change your mind. According to the Associated Press, the San Francisco Unified School District is ready to embark on another nonsensical policy to further integrate and "diversify" their public schools. The concept is called a "diversity index," and it is designed to make sure that an equal number of ethnic groups are represented at each school. Students are screened upon -- among other things - - their ethnicity, income, test scores and English proficiency. "A student whose 'individual profile will contribute to increasing the diversity of (a) school will have priority for assignment/admission to that school,' according to the plan, worked out over the summer by a 27-member committee of district employees," wrote AP. Now, a federal judge (no, not a state judge) will consider this proposal at a Nov. 5 hearing. This plan will replace earlier school integration policies, which barred schools "from having more than 45 percent of students from any one ethnic group and required (schools) to have at least four ethnic groups represented." That policy, according to AP, was initially created because the NAACP -- sensing that blacks weren't afforded equal opportunities to go to certain public schools -- sued the school district and won. But that suit "also prompted another lawsuit, filed in 1994, in which several Chinese-American families claimed their children were being unfairly excluded from some schools -- including one of the city's most prestigious," the report said. "School officials, the NAACP and lawyers for Chinese-American students and parents agreed to a settlement in February which said, in part, that 'race or ethnicity may not be the primary or predominant consideration in determining ... admissions criteria.'" And yet, the new rules -- if ordained by a High and un-Holy Federal Judge -- will force the school district to do precisely what these group leaders have said they wouldn't do, which is admit students based on a racial and ethnic set of realities. "Ethnicity, English proficiency, test scores, and income." Oh, heck no -- there's not going to be any bias in determining those factors, unless you're white or you speak English well. Flaming liberals have infested our government schools at every level of leadership. But that wasn't good enough because now some of their own are still challenging every damned thing they do. If it weren't so sad, it'd be funny. Liberalism in this country has fostered lawsuits like this one -- mostly from other liberals -- and has created an environment where the insanity of pure democracy (everyone has an equal say) has been fully implemented. Such circumstances turn very simple concepts (like attending school) into legal quagmires and public relations nightmares because the reality is you simply cannot accommodate everyone all the time. Getting an education in this country shouldn't be a political issue, nor should it be an issue driven by a selfishly grandiose agenda or statistical data. It's no wonder Americans are getting their kids out of public schools when they can. All of this serves the liberals right -- they created this mess. But unfortunately all kids involved in the incubus of today's public education system are suffering from the stupidity of liberal parents and adult education peers. This is yet another example of how socialistic liberals create more problems than they ever solve -- especially when they upset the natural order of things. Has Kofi Annan lost his mind? Being Secretary General of the United Nations must be a really tough job, because I think Kofi Annan has lost his mind. In a story published yesterday, the U.N. leader pronounced that he foresees increasing international intervention in trouble spots like East Timor as the world moves "from a culture of reaction to a culture of prevention." Stupid me; I still believed the world was mostly filled with nations who'd rather take care of their own problems -- just like the hypocrite western nations who champion this lunacy called "globalism" and who would never allow, say, China, to deploy their "peacekeepers" in our streets. In a speech delivered to the U.N. body on Monday, Annan said state sovereignty is being redefined by the forces of globalization and international cooperation and declared, "The state is now widely understood to be the servant of the people, and not vice versa." In his dreams. Traditional considerations of national sovereignty will no longer be taken into account, Annan said, and governments "must not allow divisions within the Security
Re: [CTRL] Allan Nairn's Arrest Situation and Statement, and the ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/18/1999 4:38:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am pro human rights, pro democracy, and anti TNI/ABRI. I am a supporter of the people of East Timor, Aceh, West Papua, and Indonesia, and an opponent of the officials who have repressed and exploited them. This won't make him any money with our Republican controlled Congress. After all it was Ford and Kissenger who started this whole thing 25 years ago. Now if he could come up with a way to smooth things so that a comfortable exploitation by our oil companies could take place, the folks in Washington might start thinking about his release. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Women's Campaign Keeps Mother Out of Jail (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/18/1999 4:41:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This case exposed the hypocrisy of a system that will prosecute a young, oppressed, single mother while denying her child medical care. It showed that while the state is quick to persecute and vilify poor people, it exonerates the government officials responsible for providing decent health care. It also showed that health care itself is in jeopardy for many and that there are limitations and dangers inherent in privatized medical care. Nothing has changed. They still are punishing her, and the government officials responsible are still skating. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Computer amateur discovers Y2K bug solution
-Caveat Lector- The Jerusalem Post Newspaper: Online News From Israel http://www.jpost.com/ Computer amateur discovers Y2K bug solution Byline: JUDY SIEGEL Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 Publication: Daily Page: 01 Section: News Keywords: Computer, Time, Ben-Etzion Yaron A computer amateur, who took a six-month programming course 27 years ago and has since learned applications during his IDF reserve duty, has found a solution to the Y2K computer bug that is applicable to all databases. The revolutionary solution, for which patents have been applied in the US, compresses four digits for the 21st century into two symbols, without interfering with any years from the 20th century. It accomplishes this by using special algorithms for expanding two symbols into four digits and compressing four digits into two symbols. The achievement belongs to Ben-Etzion Yaron, head of manpower and payroll in the Hebrew University's department of computerized information systems. It has already proven itself in checking for and fixing computer bugs in the department's listing of faculty sabbaticals scheduled for the 21st century. Yaron received a Kaye Prize for Innovation from the HU last June for a program that identifies the bugs in programs running only on VAX computers. Realizing that this limitation would restrict the use of his invention, he worked day and night over the past two months to expand the application to all computers and computer languages. The only Y2K bugs it cannot fix, he said, are those in computer components embedded in equipment, such as medical devices. The result of his work is Sapir 2000, which makes possible the analysis of computer programs written in COBOL, used in the 1970s and '80s for databases that its developers thought would be abandoned by the end of the century but remained, with repairs over the years, to cause the Y2K bug. Yaron's invention can even identify errors in other programs that have already been revamped to cope with Y2K and make corrections, thus providing a kind of 'second opinion' to ensure that chaos does not ensue after January 1. Sapir 2000 can also be applied to other situations requiring expansion of existing information to incorporate additional digits. It is estimated that the time needed by Yaron's program to make databases compatible with the next century is 15 percent-20% of the time required using other solutions. Yaron said his program would not become obsolete after January 1. Many programming errors will appear for years afterward, he explained, 'and Sapir 2000 is extremely flexible so it will deal with problems that we can't even realize today.' HU vice president and director-general Moshe Vigdor said that the university's research and development arm, Yissum, has signed a contract with Magic Software Enterprises, an international firm that supplies computerized solutions for companies. Magic's local subsidiary is MSE-Israel, whose president and CEO Jack Dunietz and managing director Oren Inbar were present at yesterday's unveiling of Sapir 2000. MSE-Israel will initially market and distribute the new product in Israel and, if all goes well, the product will be sold worldwide, mainly via the Internet. Inbar said that potential customers may ask MSE-Israel to convert parts of programs on a trial basis free and pay only if they are satisfied and want more work done. MSE- Israel has decided to donate $100,000 worth of development kits, study material, lectures, and consultancies to HU to promote advancement of students at its new School of Engineering and Computer Sciences, which is due to open its academic year next month on the Givat Ram campus. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- C Davis wrote: Annunaki.. The Space Gods return! -- Mark McHugh Sizhu i bormochu... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DENNIS LEE
-Caveat Lector- hILARY DENNIS LEE ? Weve followed Dennis Lee for years in Future Technology Intelligence Report.. We have had nothing but complaints from subscribers., a rip off. He refuses to get his devices tested independently and continues to take in other peoples money. Ask him about his rap sheet in two (or is it three) states for fraud. We know about New Jersey and Calif) . Hilary, run dont walk,to the nearest exit. FREE LUNCH ? No such thing as a free lunch? Sure in economics thats true, its a closed system... . But this is a frontier of new science.(we call it 4-space), tapping energy from space. There 's a free lunch oot there once you figure out to tap the energy. FTIR PO BOX 2903, SACRAMENTO CA 95812,. FTIR po bOX 2903 sACRAMNETO ca 95812 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Small Bomb Explodes at Florida AM
-Caveat Lector- SEPTEMBER 22, 13:00 EDT Small Bomb Explodes at Florida AM TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) A small pipe bomb exploded today in a restroom at Florida AM University, the second blast in less than a month at the historically black school. No injuries were reported. Damage seemed minor and there was no fire, said fire Capt. Cindy Dick. The bomb went off on the first floor of Perry Page Hall, which has four floors of laboratories, offices, classrooms and the Navy ROTC office. Page Hall and two nearby buildings were evacuated, said university spokesman Eddie Jackson. Jackson said today's explosion appeared to be bigger than an Aug. 31 blast that did minor damage in a first-floor men's room at an administrative building. No one was injured. In that case, a caller gave a warning 10 minutes before the blast, using a racial slur and indicating he wanted to ``get rid of'' some of the people at the college. Authorities would not immediately say if there was a warning call today. A $10,000 reward was offered after the first bombing. ``Everyone is pretty upset,'' said senior Olevia Robinson. ``The next time someone might definitely get hurt.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Crying in the Kitchen with Jane -Reply
-Caveat Lector- Shipping jobs overseas leaves few entry level positions where Americans can make enough to meet our cost of living... They must do something... Many wind up in jail for one reason or another, but in any case managed by $60,000 per year attendents.. Another point frequently overlooked is that under our current tax system, only American workers and Corporations pay the cost of all of our Government... If we used a paperfree National Retail Sales Tax, everything sold in the United States would pay an equal amount of our costs regardless of where or by whom it was made Ron Wilson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TIme Present, Time Past
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/19/1999 9:54:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can be that if he does really give a damn, the powers that be will never allow him to be elected president. Those tomatoes you canned care more about the good of the country than whichever slimy insider we end up with as president will care. I wish I could say you were wrong. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DENNIS LEE
-Caveat Lector- Right. Its not free lunch...its utilization of an untapped energy source through greater understanding/technology, which overall increases entropy but is nowhere as debilitative as say a tidal dam whose turbines gain energy directly from the tidal movement of seawater. That actually takes energy from the Earth, and each time very slightly removes energy from the rotation processes, slows the globe if you will. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- hILARY DENNIS LEE ? Weve followed Dennis Lee for years in Future Technology Intelligence Report.. We have had nothing but complaints from subscribers., a rip off. He refuses to get his devices tested independently and continues to take in other peoples money. Ask him about his rap sheet in two (or is it three) states for fraud. We know about New Jersey and Calif) . Hilary, run dont walk,to the nearest exit. FREE LUNCH ? No such thing as a free lunch? Sure in economics thats true, its a closed system... . But this is a frontier of new science.(we call it 4-space), tapping energy from space. There 's a free lunch oot there once you figure out to tap the energy. FTIR PO BOX 2903, SACRAMENTO CA 95812,. FTIR po bOX 2903 sACRAMNETO ca 95812 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] miscellany
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberals don't solve problems Plus: Has Annan lost his mind? © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com So, you're still a liberal after seven years of Bill Clinton and decades of liberal activists making your life miserable from the bully pulpits of the bureaucratic agencies? That's too bad; maybe this story will finally change your mind. What, *more* disinfo purporting that the Dixiecrat reactionary, corporate tool, Bill Clinton is a *liberal* ??? G'z... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990922a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No Mongol Hoards over-ran Moscow during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Beautiful Legs: http://www.erato.atr.co.jp/DB/Robot.photo/legs.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # LSD-fueled "good girl," 14, plotted to kill family. The former church- going goody-two-shoes was disciplined by her folks after she started running with a bad crowd and hanging out with a 22-year-old guy. Cops say the teen cooked up the murder plan after her parents took away her phone privileges. "This is a good-girl-gone-bad story,'' says a detective. http://www.herald.com/content/today/news/dade/digdocs/031828.htm : Have you ever been a church-going goody-two-shoes? Did you stop? Why? Have you ever plotted to kill your family? Did the voices in your head insist? Do you recall the hypnosis sessions, the alien implant, the hallucinogens? Why? @ A Dantean voice for a kind of hell: Primo Levi trusted reason and morality to grasp the world and shape in it a fitting place for us. thenewrepublic.com/magazines/tnr/archive/0999/092799/bernstein092799.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Sears drops 'Columbine doll'. HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill. (UPI) Sears, Roebuck and Co. will drop its "modern villain figure" from its Christmas Wish Book because of complaints the doll resembles the Trench Coat Mafia, whose mem- bers were responsible for the April shootings at Columbine High School. According to the catalog: the "12-inch villain is equipped with ski-mask head, trench coat, body armor, shotgun, and rifle." Sears media flak Peggy Palter said they decided to drop the doll last week when execs realized it was "inappropriate." "America's Finest" series of collectible figures - see http://news.excite.com/news/u/990921/21/news-columbine-sears : Do you collect/create icons about mass-murders? Are they sacred? Have you ever planned or performed a mass-murder? Is it fun? Have you designed/sold any icons related to mass murders? Are they profitable, appropriate, cute? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE ASTROLOGERS FUND: Investing By The Stars. Celestially terrestrially, we expect the stock market to be "fall challenged." Looking forward, we have the annual October Scare, Y2K, plus the second pass of Jupiter Square Neptune October 11 and Saturn Square Uranus November 14. Together this suggests that the "fearless" US investor may begin to exercise caution, if not fear, for the first time in the recent bull market. http://afund.com : Do you base your investments, plans, life, on astrological forecasts? Are you broke or rich yet? Which astrological system works best? Anything else? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Giant London Morgue Prepped For New Year's Disasters. A SPORTS centre with room for up to 1,000 bodies has been set aside as a makeshift mortuary in case of a disaster in London on millennium night. More than 2 mln people are expected to line the banks of the Thames to fete the arrival of the 21st century. Emergency planners fear many could end up in the river, on purpose or by accident. http://sightings.com/politics4/morgue_p.htm : Do you plan to murder anyone at a millennium party? Will many die then? Is there a perfect alibi? Are there enough morgues? Will you rent morgue space? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ PC-WORLD Y2K-A-RAMA: * Millennium Bug Kit - This utility will make your PC year 2000 ready. Its power on-off Real-Time Clock tests your computer's internal clock, and the utility fixes any inconsistencies in the BIOS without reprogramming the chip. http://www.pcworld.com/r/shw/1%2C2087%2C6619%2C00.html * IntelliFIX 2000 - Check each component of your PC for Y2K-compliance. IF2K diagnoses and repairs all of your computer's BIOS date problems corrects your computer's CMOS real-time clock, so your PC is permanently free from future date conflicts. http://pcworld.com/r/shw/1%2C2087%2C6618%2C00.html * DateReport - Excel 97 add-in analyzes your spreadsheet to find potential Y2K problems. http://www.pcworld.com/r/shw/1%2C2087%2C6117%2C00.html * Attack of the Y2K Bug - See the dreaded Y2K bug wreak havoc on your desktop in this humorous screen saver. Cute little "Y2K" bugs demolish your screen. http://www.pcworld.com/r/shw/1%2C2087%2C6447%2C00.html * Norton 2000 BIOS Test and Fix - Compare your PC against a database of known Year 2000 problems. The utility generates a bootable diskette that tests your system, then provides a comprehensive report of its findings. It tests your system's BIOS, real-time clock and system clock, and more. http://www.pcworld.com/r/shw/1%2C2087%2C6097%2C00.html * Office 95 Year 2000 Update - This update addresses known Year 2000-related issues in the programs included in Microsoft's Office 95. Years entered as
[CTRL] OEN 9/22/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson from Temples of Chance by David Johnston Much of [Donald] Trump's apparent wealth was illusory, the result of complex financial engineering that had come to resemble not the smooth-running money machine Trump endlessly hyped, but a Rube Goldberg contraption constantly in need of more cash to avoid collapse. It had been true almost from the start of his career. Now nothing showed this better than the Trump Princess, which added millions of dollars per year to the drain on his cash flow, plus $29 million in new debt since, as usual, he put no money down. He assumed these new obligations shortly before he was due to fulfill promises to pay down the balances on bank loans and on casino mortgage bonds--money he did not have. = Money Laundering Summers Says Russian Organized Crime Threatens America Therefore we should give the Russians more money, and Americans more privacy-invading laws. Lawrence Summers, US Treasury secretary, yesterday said Russian organised crime had become a threat to the integrity of the US and global financial systems. "Russian organised crime has emerged as a powerful corrupting force - a force that challenges Russia's political and economic development," he said. "It has also become a global threat, one that poses a challenge to the integrity of our financial system." However, as the first witness in a series of hearings about US policy towards Russia since the start of criminal investigations in the US and Switzerland into Russian corruption and money-laundering, Mr Summers said continued economic aid to Russia was vital to the US national interest. In a lengthy but restrained session of the House banking committee yesterday, Mr Summers stressed that economic aid to Russia by the International Monetary Fund and other multilateral lenders was important to the US but conceded that the administration was often faced with difficult choices in its efforts to combat corruption and money-laundering. "We have supported continued IMF engagement with Russia. . . not because we expected that Russia would be rapidly transformed into a market economy or that corruption would be eliminated overnight, but rather on the view that to quarantine, contain or write off Russia as too corrupt would ill serve our national interest," he said. Responding to suggestions that the government viewed Russia as "too big to fail", Mr Summers said that the administration had aimed to strike a balance between "what would be economically best and what would be politically realistic. You have to choose, if you like, between different degrees of unsatisfactoriness." Mr Summers told the committee that Treasury policymakers first heard in April of allegations that billions of dollars in suspect Russian funds were laundered through accounts at the Bank of New York. He said the reports reinforced the Treasury's already serious concerns about the use of official finance by the Russian government. Mr Summers said the administration plans to unveil this week new proposed legislation aimed at clamping down on money-laundering. James Leach, the chairman of the banking committee, said he also planned to introduce legislation that appeared to have bipartisan support. Mr Leach said that Congress had been concerned about co-operation between the various US agencies in combating money-laundering. "The Congress does expect to have substantially greater co-ordination within the executive branch," he said. The Financial Times, Sept. 22, 1999 Digital Society Paul Krassner Retires The Realist What was that again about Lyndon Johnson and Kennedy's throat wound? The man credited with being the father of the American underground press is to close the paper that smashed taboos and helped start the hippie movement more than 40 years ago. Paul Krassner, once described by the FBI as a "raving, unconfined nut", says that social change and the arrival of the internet means the Realist is no longer needed. He has decided that his newspaper, which covered and exposed scandals from the Kennedy assassination to the Monica Lewinsky case with a mixture of muckraking and satire, will cease publication by the end of the year. It marks the end of an era for the man who took LSD with Groucho Marx, edited Lenny Bruce's autobiography, helped form the Yippies with Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin, and attracted the ire of everyone from the FBI to the Church of Scientology. The Realist has achieved its function, he says. "Irreverence has become an industry and there are two novels I want to write." Many of the subjects previously only covered in the underground press now appear in the mainstream media and the growth of the internet means that subversive ideas can be swiftly communicated. "The internet is pure democracy because little Mabel down the street is able to get as
[CTRL] LaRouche: the KGB librarian hoa
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:61"LaRouche: the KGB librarian hoax/A - Subject: LaRouche: the KGB librarian hoax From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 September 1999 11:32 AM EDT Message-id: 7saspk$dhr$[EMAIL PROTECTED] THE KGB LIBRARIAN HOAX The following LBW Candidate's Statement was released by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. today: September 21,1999. A recent book by an Oxbridge Professor pretends to unveil a wonderful story of Soviet spies galore, alleged caught red-handed. The basis for this hoax is allegedly a collection of documents conduited into Britain by a former KGB librarian, one Vasili Mitrokhin. No elaborate investigation is needed to show that the Andrews book is a hoax, basically a manure-pile of frauds with a few kernels of fact included to assist in deluding the wishfully credulous. The circumstances are sufficient to prove conclusively that the Mitrokhin legend is a British intelligence services' concocted hoax. Unfortunately, the hoax is of the type likely to be treated as fact by some American fools in the Congress or Vice- President Al Gore's cronies of the Principals Committee. Look at the bare facts, as reported by Professor Andrews and other relevant British sources themselves. The following items are crucial for assessing the story being spread. The crucial facts are as follows: 1. According to Professor Andrews, et al., Mitrokhin, a KGB librarian, approached first U.S. and then British intelligence services, offering to defect to the NATO powers. Ostensibly, the U.S. turned down this worthless creature, but the British Foreign Office, true to its Benthamite heritage, took a different view of the matter. The Foreign Office is an expert in the business of salvaging something salable from even mere trash. 2. Mitrokhin defected as arranged. But, according to the British account, he left a treasure-chest of papers, tucked under his dacha, back in the Soviet Union. The tale continues, reporting that it was none other than British MI-6's celebrated Tomlinson who retrieved that chest of papers, and brought them to Merrie Olde England. 3. The British do not claim that these papers were KGB documents, but, rather, personal papers on which Mitrovkhin made note of his knowledge of certain actual KGB documents. Immediately, the competent U.S. counterintelligence specialist begins wondering about the dating of the writing of the original note- papers which Tomlinson presumably delivered back to Merrie Olde England. Anyone wish to volunteer to pick out the kernels of corn from a stinking manure- pile? Maybe avowed manure specialist Al Gore? 4. Things then become, as Alice said, "curiouser and curiouser." "Why wasn't this reported!" screamed the British parliamentarians to the offices of MI5. "All these years?" they are reported to have pointed out. 5. It might appear that Oxbridge had suddenly revealed entire nests of Soviet spies which MI6's work had identified, and for whom MI5 had covered up all these passing years. Are you fool enough to believe any of this? 6. If you were seated at a banquet, and a British Oxbridge type, disguised as a waiter in full dress, were to deliver such a plateful of manure to your seat, might you not challenge the purported innocent waiter, at the very least, "Why you bring this crap to the table just now?" 7. Let us all suddenly grow up. The Blair monarchy, abetted by fools among both Bush Republicans and Gore Whatevers, are engaged in escalated the global strategic situation along the lines repeatedly proposed by lunatic Zbigniew Brzezinski and his political "Leperello," Samuel P. Huntington. The highly artificed Mitrokhin Flap is purely and plainly one of those hoaxes, even less believable than the Gordievsky swindle, which comes along whenever British sheep-herders take to stampeding enragable American political sheep. Watch carefully now! Watch to see which mass-media channels, which foaming-mouth Republicans, and which Gore cronies are going to now quote the Mitrovkhin papers of Professor Andrews as authority for another anti-Russia, anti- Clinton scandal? Down the line, the possibility of actual exchanges in nuclear weapons, in the Central Asia theater, and even beyond, are waiting to greet the fools, perhaps at the Gates of Hell itself. http://www.larouchecampaign.org Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread
[CTRL] Panspermia
-Caveat Lector- Origin of Life and the Panspermia Theory http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/20hist11.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alternative science links (over 200 links)
Title: Alternative science links(don't miss http://www.trufax.org ) Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart POST-QUANTUM PHYSICS-can we travel through wormholes, can we travel to the past, is mind a field, can we travel faster than light? ? "BIOVILK" Research Program-Research in the area of energy fields surrounding the human body and their impact on human health. THE MAD SCIENTIST'S LAIR -to collect information on alternative technology and 'free energy' machines, and to present it in such a way as to be useful to experimenters. ULTIMATE REALITY - synthesis of particle physics, cosmology and vedanta, aiming at a quantum field theoretical description of consciousness. THE ULTIMATE UNIFICATION THEORY-describes the basic fundamental axioms of our cosmos, for it's physical, mental as well as spiritual manifestations. FEDERATION OF AMERICAN SCIENTISTS-is a privately-funded non-profit policy organization. This site is loaded with files to research. THE MILLENNIUM MATTERS-repository for things millennial; for information on, sources regarding, and personal revelations about the times just ahead of us. TAOS HUM - that low throbbing sound heard in quiet locations throughout the US. The source is still a mystery. ENERGY SCIENCE.COM-secrets of the new energy science-the 21st century will witness a revolution on the energy front. PORE-Public Orgone Research Exchange - an opening through which orgonomy information can flow. CLIMATE REPORT-a shift in our planet's weather patterns and changes in climate are already underway. BEAM ME UP-An experiment confirms that teleportation is possible--at least for photons. SCALAR TECHNOLOGY-and some of its applications. NO PULL ONLY A PUSH -a non-mainstream general model for the mechanics of gravitation. DISTANT STAR - The Electronic Magazine of the First Millennial Galaxy - A lot of information on everything. KARAL STUDIOS-developments with crystalline technology, real items, not mere thoughts from some book. THE MONTAUK PROJECT-excerpts from Preston Nichols book on the subject. This will stretch your mind a wee bit. THEORIES OF THE AETHER-to draw together in the one place various theories of, or reference to, the "ancient cosmic aether". THE ENERGY MACHINE OF JOSEPH NEWMAN-Presents extensive information about the revolutionary energy machine technology innovated by Joseph W. Newman SCIENCE CAN BECOME HOLISTIC-a possible Utopia-article by David S. Devor, Project Mind Foundation KEELYNET-Free Energy, Gravity Control Electronic Health PROJECT OMICRON is "the first serious gravity control research project on the Internet." AMERICAN HYDROGEN ASSOC.-dedicated to the promotion of inexpensive, clean and safe hydrogen energy systems. DEVELOPMENTS IN COLD FUSION-Testing of the Yusmar in Johnstown Pa. NEUROPHONE- Dr. Patrick Flanagan's electronic device transmits sound through the skin, by-passing normal hearing. MORE ON THE NUEROPHONE FLANAGAN Technologies-more on Flanagan's work AMERICAN SOCIETY OF DOWSERS-organization has helped thousands of people to learn the ancient art of dowsing. DOWSING-what is it? It is an ancient art of searching for hidden things. COLD FUSION Technology Homepage-News and articles from the frontier of new energy technology! Cold fusion is alive and well in respected laboratories across the world. LAYMANS GUIDE TO BRAIN CHEMISTRY-the title says it all. "Joy, grief, love are all biochemical". Well worth a visit. HIMAC-suppressed info on a "super carburetor". SENSATIONAL FIND IN RUSSIA- have we received visitors from space?-first published report of the discovery. THEORIES OF THE AETHER- 46 online articles relating to the emergence of scientific theories of the cosmic aether. CROP CIRCLES EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY-Gerald Hawkins' workon Crop Circles and their diatonic ratios. FIBONACCI NUMBERS AND NATURE-if you are, or ever where, interested in Fibonacci Numbers, this is a must visit site. SCALAR TECHNOLOGY-and one of its applications, from "Extraordinary Science", Vol. 2, No. 1, 1990 by Warren York TAPPING ZERO POINT ENERGY-by Moray B. King-the possibility of tapping energy directly from the fabric of space. AETHER
[CTRL] Y2K May Spark Downturn - U.S. Senate Panel
-Caveat Lector- From http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990922/ts/yk_days_1.html - Wednesday September 22 2:56 PM ET Y2K May Spark Downturn - U.S. Senate Panel By Jim Wolf WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Year 2000 computer glitch is likely to trigger international supply-chain disruptions that may end more than eight straight years of U.S. economic growth, a Senate panel studying the problem said Wednesday. With 100 days left to the year change, the Special Committee on the Year 2000 Technology Problem said it was ``greatly concerned'' about the international Y2K picture for strategic as well as economic reasons. ``Severe long- and short-term disruptions to supply chains are likely to occur'' as a result of Y2K-related system failures, it said in its 288-page report. ``Such disruptions may cause a low-to-moderate downturn in the economy, particularly in industries that depend on foreign suppliers,'' the panel said. The U.S. economy, a locomotive for the world, has been expanding since March 1991. But John Koskinen, President Clinton's chief adviser on Y2K, said he expected Y2K to have no ``significant'' impact on the U.S. economy, citing what he called a consensus of forecasters. At worst, Y2K-related tangles might shave one or two tenths of a percentage point off U.S. economic growth in the first quarter of 2000, he said in a telephone interview with Reuters. Most of U.S. trade was with developed countries, ``and they're doing relatively well'' in preparing, Koskinen added. ``While the committee has become increasingly confident about U.S. Y2K preparedness, it has become increasingly concerned about international preparedness,'' said the report, the panel's last before the clocks tick over to 2000. At issue is the coding glitch that could cause older computers and embedded chips to mistake 2000 for 1900 starting Jan. 1. Unless fixed, this could play havoc with everything from cash machines to telephones to power grids. GREATEST OVERSEAS CONCERNS The committee listed its greatest concerns as China, Russia, Italy plus a handful of U.S. oil suppliers: Venezuela, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Colombia and Kuwait. ``Several important U.S. trading partners are severely behind in addressing the Y2K problem ... and are not likely to avoid significant disruptions,'' the report said. Other countries' Y2K-related problems may wash up on U.S. shores ``in the form of recession, lost jobs or requests for international assistance,'' it added. Committee Chairman Robert Bennett, a Utah Republican, cited a ``strong possibility'' that Y2K would tip the rest of the world, along with the United States, into a ``slight economic downturn.'' In addition, Bennett foresaw a ``slight'' possibility of a global recession -- at least two straight quarters of negative growth -- due to Y2K-related disruptions, committee spokesman Don Meyer said in an e-mail reply to a query from Reuters. At a news conference, Bennett compared Y2K's potential domestic fallout with the harm to U.S. farmers sparked by the Asian economic crisis that began in Thailand in July 1997. Prices for many U.S. crops are at their lowest in decades because of huge supplies and weak foreign demand. ``I think that would be the model that we could look to as to what could happen,'' he said. ``But there is no really reliable model because the world has never gone through anything like this before.'' U.S. SHORTCOMINGS The committee, which has held about 30 hearings and heard testimony from more than 150 witnesses, voiced deep concerns about the lack readiness of U.S. health care facilities, state and local government operations, schools and small businesses. In addition, it said local and regional power outages remained a ``distinct possibility'' in some parts of the United States. Both Koskinen and the chief trade group for U.S. electricity suppliers disputed this assessment. All available data suggest any Y2K-related outages ``will be highly localized and of short duration,'' said John Castagna of the Edison Electric Institute, which represents most major electricity suppliers. Panel vice chairman Christopher Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut, said a major U.S. concern remained the Medicaid system, the combined federal and state health-care program for the poor, elderly and disabled. It ``still needs some work in about 23 to 25 states,'' he said. The panel also highlighted fears about possible ``trap doors'' that could have been stitched into the millions of lines of U.S. computer codes overhauled overseas to clean up Y2K issues. If a ``trap door'' were inserted into key network software under the cloak of a Y2K repair, for instance, an adversary could gain access for years without anyone being the wiser, the panel said. ITALY CITED AS CONCERN The panel cited Italy as a particular concern, partly because of the throngs expected to converge on the Vatican to mark the 2,000th anniversary of the birth of Christ. Specific areas of concern are water, electric
[CTRL] algore/geew supports IMF which sucks our blood[goPatgo]
-Caveat Lector- Knowledge of the Enemy is your ammunition to kill it! What Is the International Monetary Fund? http://www.imf.int/ Folks, Get educated NOW so you'll know who to vote for in 2000. It's beyond me why a Voter would vote for a person who supports the very organization that sucks his/her blood, then deposits that blood in foreign criminals, then we, the stupid taxpayers have to pay back the IMF/big banks because of loan guarantees. Bard http://www.gopatgo2000.org/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [InTheShadows] Free Energy
-Caveat Lector- At 09:42 AM 9-22-1999 -0600, Hilary wrote: What's your take on this device and Denis Lee? Forwarded Message From: "Jerry W. Decker" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:52:41 -0500 Subj: Re: $200 free energy device? Hi Folks! Thanks to everyone for your fast and accurate response!!! Here is a compilation of some of the emails showing this $200 thing is just Dennis Lee milking Tesla's name, funny how when he was here in Dallas, he stood up on the stage at yet another bogus show and said the now defunct International Tesla Society was doing nothing but playing with the bones in Tesla's graveyard...in general disparaging the ITS. I hear he spent $5000 to buy what was left after they went out of business, now he has created an Tesla Electric Company and is playing in that same graveyard...he smells money...I'll give him one thing, he has great marketing savvy... What follows are comments from emails pinning this one down; -- Joseph Newman's Page has a warning to his readers about another Dennis Lee scam, and it mentions the USA Today ad. I'm not sure if this is the one you're referring to, but I thought I'd pass it along. http://www.josephnewman.com -- Jerry, This is a Dennis Lee promotion. He is already starting a new tour through the U.S. The schedule is in the USA today ad, (Last friday's issue, I believe.) He has invited anyone to come and look, test, and/or measure to validate his claims. I wonder if this one really will work? -- USA Today of Sept 17 has the full page add by Dennis Lee! Gives information on a nation wide tour; places and dates. Showing but not teaching several devices. -- I am pretty sure this is another one of Dennis Lee's scams. Eric Krieg sent a post to the free_energy list saying he had seen a full page ad in USAToday by Dennis Lee. This was either 09-17-99 or 09-16-99. I am not sure if free_energy digest their list but you should be able to find it on Onelist. That's not much info I know but hope it helps. -- ...From a friend who knows a guy who just put in $200 to get a chance for having one of the 15KW generators installed into his house. He read the USA ad and it IS Dennis Lee and his Better World Technologies. There is of course an 'aggreement' with the local distributor (which my friend read and continues with) It is pure Dennis Lee and an obvious scam. The USA today, full page, ad must have cost some big bucks. Friggen Lee, muddying the water for something legit. Makes it harder for a legit to come out. -- International Tesla Electric Company 1999 Technology Tour Live Demonstrations of Free Energy (Sponsored by UCSA) http://www.teslaelectriccompany.com/ Shows begin promptly at 7 pm. We recommend arriving at 6:30. Please fill out the Admission Coupon on this site, and bring it with you to the show to avoid lines and guarantee seating (you MUST arrive at 6:30 for guaranteed seating). Please tell all of your friends and relatives across the USA about this schedule for the show in their area of the country. The primary reason for this tour is to get the word out to the people that this technology exists and that we plan SOON to come forth with a product that can set them free of the central power grid. In order to do that we need a grass roots mandate from the people. Come and see what this is all about and then get involved in spreading the word. Also stay tuned to this site for any changes in schedule that may occur as we tour the country. If there are any changes we will notify everyone through this web site. Come to the show and see for yourself what is exciting about this. -- Jim Logue said the following, has anyone heard what it is about? There is a free energy ad in Nuts and Volts Jul 99 prob. I dont know it its the one your asking about. I called 800 no. They want $39.95 + 8.00 for a VHS. John Anderson JAE Associates POB 1219 Carrolton GA 800-668-1878 -- Thanks again for pinning this down...another one bytes the dust -- Jerry Wayne Decker / [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://keelynet.com / "From an Art to a Science" Voice : (214) 324-8741 / FAX : (214) 324-3501 KeelyNet - PO BOX 870716 - Mesquite - Republic of Texas - 75187 - To leave this list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body text: leave Interact list archives and on line subscription forms are at http://keelynet.com/interact/ - . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990922c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : They're coming to take me away during production of the next bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Beating an Idea to Death for Dummies: http://www.corynet.com/dummy/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Area 51. About 190 km north-west of Las Vegas, in the Nevada desert, the offical map stops. There's lots there - roads, creeks, mountains, bunkers, buildings and a massive 9.5 km runway - but on paper these things don't exist. It is as if all human activity has ceased across an area the size of Switzerland. Public access to this zone is forbidden. 'Use of deadly force authorized', warn the signs. Its airspace is the most sacred in the U.S. This is Nellis Air Force Range and Nuclear Test Site, more commonly known as Area 51 (a name given for one section of the base on old government maps). ALIEN TECH? http://channel1.com/users/cci/Area51.htm : Have you been to Area 51 lately? Were you there voluntarily or otherwise? Do you use/design/probe alien technology? Have you blasted any planets? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # World Circling Spaceship. (P3N) U.S. Military Uses of Space, 1945-1991. 2 May 1946, RAND Corp published a Preliminary Design for an Experimental World Circling Spaceship. The 324-page study, the result of a crash effort commissioned by the Army Air Forces, focused on the utility of a satellite for gathering scientific data on cosmic rays, gravitation, geophysics, terrestrial magnetism, meteorology properties of the upper atmosphere. The report also identified potential military missions for a satellite: missile guidance, weapons delivery, weather reconnaissance, communica- tions, attack assessment and "observation." http://caus.org/pn092299.htm : How many world-circling spaceships does Earth need? Are there too many? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ REPTILICUS: Reptiles/Serpents/Lizards in History/Mythology/Religion. Ongo- ing Archive of "reptilians" in History - Interesting Facts about Terrest- rial Reptiles - Excerpt from "reptilians at Denver airport" interview - Commentary from Diabolic - http://www.channel1.com/users/cci/reptiles.htm : Are you Reptoid? Were you in Denver lately? Do you slither? Does everyone? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UFO REPORTs - Gray Disc Over Power Transformers. 23 Aug 1999, I witnessed a silver-gray disk hovering over my residence. I was sitting in my office at my residence, using the Internet, and listening to my police scanners. The Christian County Sheriff's office dispatcher started having problems communicating with all of their patrol cars in the field. freq. 155.565 transmit/receive) I heard a humming sound that was effecting the radio and I could hear the humming in my office. http://caus.org/mu092299.htm : Have you ever been buzzed? Did a UFO do it? Do you hear humming sounds? Do you hum? Do you scan cop radios? Do you have a life? Are you haunted? How?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Alien Types: A Tentative Breakdown. Alien Type I: Grey Type A,B,C - Alien Type II: Reptilians - Human Alien Type: Human Type A,B,C - Other Classes: Non-Earth Born Humans, Earth Born Humans, Ancient, Modern, Genetically Altered EarthBorn Humans, Workers, Technicians, Greys, Human/Grey Hybrids, Sasquatch - see http://www.channel1.com/users/cci/alien.htm : Are you alien? What type are you? Are you on this list? Why are you here? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # UK Ufologist Max Burns Convicted On Drug Charges. Former disc jockey and noted UFO doyen Maxwell Burns is behind bars waiting sentence after a jury convicted him of possessing almost a thousand amphetamine tablets. By day, harmless UFO buff Max Burns wrote about his own ''alien abduction." But by night the Sheffield city centre DJ was involved in the seedier world of drug dealing. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/maxburns_u.htm : How many UFOlogists use/sell/make dope? How can you tell? Are you UFOnian? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ The Krill Report. 1) Animal Mutilations and UFOs - General Observations - Mystery Choppers 2) Observations by a Visiting Nordic 3) Men in Black - Grey Physiology and Anatomy - Real Esoterica -- Sirius MIB - "Goblin Universe" - "Extra-Terrestrials Among Us" 4) History Ops -- Operation Trojan Horse - Physical Evidence - Charting the Enigma - The Other Side of the Coin - Gravitational Propulsion: http://trufax.org/trans/krill.html : Have you ever been reported upon? Have you written any reports? True ones? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Faked Moon Landings? The last men to set foot on Luna were the astronauts of Apollo 17, in December 1972. But even before this, a set of conspiracy theories were spreading, the most radical of which claimed that NASA had faked all the lunar landings - that Man in fact never landed on the moon.
[CTRL] THE LOOTING OF AMERICA - FOREIGN AID [d.c.thieves]
-Caveat Lector- "I am for free commerce with all nations; political connection, with none; and little or no diplomatic establishments." -- Thomas Jefferson Americans will be first at the scene to help victims of natural disaster from Kurdistan to Honduras. But the steady siphoning of $30 million a day and $17 billion a year in foreign aid from a depleted U.S. Treasury must come to an end. Today, one-fourth of America's national debt is traceable to foreign aid, yet we continue to dig deeper into debt to fund "friends" -- three-quarters of whom more often than not vote against the U.S. in the UN. The looting of America for the construction of the New World Order must end. America needs a policy that phases out foreign aid and focuses instead on forgotten Americans here at home. The time has come for dependent nations to quit presuming upon American benevolence and begin paying the full cost of their own development and defense. You can help Pat right now while you are online! USE YOUR CREDIT CARD or SEND A CHECK [Letter] [Profile] [Issues] [Statements] [Articles] P. O. Box 2000, Dunn Loring, Virginia 22027 Web: http://www.gopatgo2000.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 703-734-2700 Buchanan 2000 - Scott B. Mackenzie, Treasurer ©1999 Buchanan 2000 Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990922b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : 4'33" of silence was shattered during production of this bulletin. urp _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Geckos for Beginners: http://www.geckoranch.com/beginners.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Video technology advances raise privacy questions. OSLO (Reuters) - A leading US supplier of image sensors said technological advances allowing entire workings of video cameras to be compressed onto a single silicon chip had emphasized the need for debate on privacy laws. Eric Fossum, chairman and chief scientist of Pasadena-based Photobit, said the increasing availability of lower-cost video technology could widen people's horizons on the world but spur fears of big-brother surveillance. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990921/11/ca-tech-photobit-privacy : Would you like to have video-camera chips embedded in your body? Have ETs already implanted these in you? Are they pleased with your imagery? Why not? # Cellphones pose no health risk? (BBC) Mobile phone use poses no health risks but the UK govt isn't spending enough on crucial research, say MPs. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_politics/newsid_454000/454502.stm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE... Louisiana high school tags students. Security's the reason, but privacy activists don't like it. The new policy requires both students faculty to wear ID badges complete with photo, name and Social Security numbers encrypted at the bottom. '666' tattooed on foreheads: http://worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990922_xex_louisiana_hi.shtml : Do we all need ID cards? Should we be implanted with ID chips? Under the guise of storing our medical info in us, will this be done soon? D'ya fret? # Bribes Invalidate Thousands Of Divorces. NEW YORK Thousands of Manhattan divorces over the last 7 years any subsequent marriages by the sundered partners could be invalidated by crimes linked to their divorce papers. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990922/10/odd-divorces _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CRYPTOCIDE. Govt officials seeking to exploit ignorance and panic over the Internet used to be the chief proponents of regulating Internet speech. Now, commercial interests, helped by a number of scholars, have shouldered them aside. They campaign under the banner of saving the children, warding off govt regulation or "mainstreaming the Net." But the bottom line seems to be making the Internet safe for commerce. In their zeal to "balance" freedom of expression with commercial convenience, they overlook the fact that they will be strip-mining the Net. When it's all over, what once was a vibrant and inviting environment will be nothing but a scarred and barren landscape. http://freedomforum.org/first/1999/9/20ombudsman.asp : Are you strip-mining the Net? When it's totally wasted, where will you go next? Will meta-Nets evolve? Will you be meta-wired? Are you meta-physical? # Having trouble sleeping? Move your clock radio. Powerful mind-control device: http://www.icaadvertising.co.uk/www.etonhall.com/hot4.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ 'Too Good to Be True: The Colossal Book of Urban Legends' (CNN) Alligators in the sewers? A pet in the microwave? A tragic misunderstanding of the function of cruise control? No, it didn't really happen to your friend's sister's neighbor: it's an urban legend. And no matter how savvy you think you are, you are sure to find in this collection of over 200 tales at least one story you would have sworn was true. Don't nuke the Chihuahua. http://www.cnn.com/books/beginnings/9909/urban.legends/index.html : Have you released any alligators into sewers lately? Did you nuke the dog? Did the voices in your head insist? Did the coyote run under your pickup?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Call Girls Out Of The Phone Box And On To The Web. LONDON (Reuters) UK prostitutes, who have traditionally advertised their services in the nation's red telephone boxes, are now touting for business on the Internet. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990922/10/odd-prostitutes : Do you advertise for sex? Do you respond to sex ads? Do you contribute to population increase or control? Are you wired for sex? Are you offshore?? # World population still climbing. (BBC) The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) says the number of people in the world has doubled since 1960. World population will reach six billion during 1999, if it has not already done so. UNFPA is observing 12 October as "the day of six billion". Move over: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_453000/453680.stm : How many people are enough? When will Reptilioids/Republicans start harv- esting? What are you doing to reduce population growth? Do you patronize sex surrogates? Have you been clipped? D'ya use
[CTRL] IOWA PILOT SEES FLYING TRIANGLE SEEDING CLOUDS
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [prj] [Fwd: IOWA PILOT SEES FLYING TRIANGLE SEEDING CLOUDS] Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:01:11 -0400 From: "Mark A. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free Rare/Out-of-Print Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** END Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:48:28 -0700 From: Leanne Housden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Patient Coalition for Naturpathic Physicians Subject: Re: [Fwd: [AEF] New twist on chemtrails]ALERT!! FLYING TRIANGLE SEEDING CLOUDS?..*** : 1) IOWA PILOT SEES FLYING TRIANGLE SEEDING CLOUDS Dubuque, Iowa -- An airfreight pilot flying a twin engine Beech Baron BE-58 aircraft reports that on August 23, 1999, he spotted a thumbnail sized triangular object. The craft was maneuvering at approximately 5000 feet above my altitude of 5500 feet Mean Sea Level (MSL). The Flying Triangle was depositing material into small cumulous clouds north of Dubuque. During a moon rise in the eastern sky at 11:20 PM, an object caught my attention moving at an unusually high rate of speed. As I looked upward and focused in on the object, I made out a dark blue or almost black triangular craft flying grid patterns in a north to south and east to west pattern. I estimate his altitude was 5000 feet higher than my cruising altitude or 10,000 feet MSL. As I watched more intensely, I noticed the craft was leaving behind it's travel path a gray misty contrail, that seemed to be slowly falling into small puffy clouds between myself and the craft. When the Flying Triangle made a change of direction, it was done very abruptly. Ninety degree turns were made with no gradual change of direction, they were instantaneous. I estimated it's rate of travel to be in the 500 to 800 knot range. Nearly 10 times that of my rate of speed. The craft had no lights, the only way I could see it was by the reflection of the moon light since it was a near full moon last night. After losing the craft behind a bank of clouds I no-longer saw it. After flying for an additional 12 minutes, I witnessed particles descending or falling past my aircraft. They almost looked like snow flakes, but the air temperature was near 50 degrees Fahrenheit, according to my outside air temperature probe. The particles appeared to reflect a gold light when tumbling in the moon light. I traveled through the particles for 20 minutes at 5500 feet with visibility dropping from 10 to 3 statue miles forward visibility. During this time period my lungs began to feel inflamed and irritable. I also felt a burning sensation and tried to keep my breathing rate at a low rate during this time. My symptoms disappeared once I left the particles. I never saw the craft during the rest of my four hour trip. It was very strange. This is the only report I am making as of today as I fear for my job security by reporting this sighting. Thanks to Peter ** IAHF:(International Advocates for Health Freedom) PO Box 625 Floyd, Virginia,24091, USA 800-333-2553, overseas: 540-745-6534, 540-745-6535 fax, http://www.iahf.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help Get a Codex Oversight Hearing: Call Beth Clay at 202-225-5074 House Government Reform and Oversight Committee- See Codex Oversight Section of IAHF website for more info. If You Belong to NNFA- Ask Them Why They Oppose Having a Codex Oversight Hearing, and Ask Why They Don't Enforce Article 14.3 in their Bylaws: (Conflict of Interest) Ask why they don't kick Warner Lambert and the rest of the drug cartel OUT of NNFA! Ask Why they endorse the NAS paper "A Risk Assessment Model For Establishing Upper Levels for Nutrients" when it is being used illegally by the FDA to break past the consumer generated impasse at Codex. [See Codex Oversight Section http://www.iahf.com] +++ -- Join the Militia of Montana Email Alert List by writing to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with SUBSCRIBE in the Subject Line! M.O.M. Archived posts at: http://www.montana.com/militiaofmontana Visit our web site at: http://www.montana.com/militiaofmontana to stay informed with the latest news on the topics of MARTIAL LAW; UN TROOPS; GUN LEGISLATION; UNAMERICAN ACTIVITIES, plus much more. Visit our Patriot Calendar of Events at: http://www.montana.com/militiaofmontana/calendar.htm to stay abreast of all the great meetings, conferences and expos that are held nation-wide. Check out your state listing. For the latest in great survival, preparedness and politically incorrect materials visit our Online Catalog at: http://www.montana.com/militiaofmontana/catalog.htm Some great deals
[CTRL] John McCain - The Dark Side [skeleton closet]
Title: John McCain - The Dark Side John McCain's Skeleton Closet John McCain is a maverick senator and former Vietnam veteran and prisoner of war for 5 years in North Vietnam. On the positive side, he is a rare exception to the partisan bitterness in Washington these days, often crafting bipartisan approaches to issues such as smoking and campaign reform. Here are some negative allegations: - McCain was one of the "Keating Five," congressmen investigated on ethics charges for strenuously helping convicted racketeer Charles Keating after he gave them large campaign contributions and vacation trips. Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion. His convictions were overturned on technicalities; for example, the federal conviction was overturned because jurors had heard about his state conviction, and his state charges because Judge Lance Ito (yes, that judge) screwed up jury instructions. Neither court cleared him, and he faces new trials in both courts.) Though he was not convicted of anything, McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating after Keating gave McCain at least $112,00 in contributions. In the mid-1980s, McCain made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center; the Phoenix New Times called it a "sweetheart deal." - Mafia ties: In 1995, McCain sent birthday regards, and regrets for not attending, to Joseph "Joe Bananas" Bonano, the head of the New York Bonano crime family, who had retired to Arizona. Another politician to send regrets was Governor Fife Symington, who has since been kicked out of office and convicted of 7 felonies relating to fraud and extortion. - At least one veteran's group (U.S. Veteran's Dispatch) really hates him, and accuses McCain of cooperating with the North Vietnamese while he was their prisoner. They also sketch McCain's ties, through his wealthy father-in-law, to various Arizona scandals including the murder of reporter Don Bolles.Check out their version at the US Veteran's Dispatch web site. - Family troubles: McCain has a reputation as a politician who has difficulty keeping his pants zipped, according to Republican sources. He acknowledges that his adultery broke up his first marriage. His second wife Cindy, the daughter of a wealthy Budweiser beer distributor, was addicted to prescription narcotics and even stole hard drugs from a medical charity that she ran. McCain acknowledges that she didn't want him to run, and only agreed once he promised that she doesn't have to go to New Hampshire or Iowa. Quotes: - "Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." -- John McCain - Leonardo DiCaprio is "an androgynous wimp." -- McCain. Sources:"The Pampered Politician", by Amy Silverman, The Phoenix New Times, May 15, 1997 "See John Run Off at the Mouth", Phoenix New Times, October 1, 1998 "Opiate for the Mrs.", Phoenix New Times, September 8, 1994 "Flashes: What's Up, Murdoch?", Phoenix New Times, September 17, 1998 the US Veteran's Dispatch web site. "Symington Gets Slammer", Phoenix New Times, February 2, 1998 Election 98: Arizona Governor, Fox News web site "Keating Gets New Trial", CNNfn Web Site, December 2, 1996 "No More Wagging,", (editorial) by Maureen Dowd, The New York Times, January 3, 1999 BACK TO SKELETON CLOSET Paid for by Real People For Real Change and not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. Copyright 1999 Real People For Real Change
Re: [CTRL] miscellany
-Caveat Lector- Billy da prez clinton is just the banks boy isn't he? An administrative page for the haves who wants more than anything to have more than he can keep track of, too. Ric Carter wrote: -Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberals don't solve problems Plus: Has Annan lost his mind? © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com So, you're still a liberal after seven years of Bill Clinton and decades of liberal activists making your life miserable from the bully pulpits of the bureaucratic agencies? That's too bad; maybe this story will finally change your mind. What, *more* disinfo purporting that the Dixiecrat reactionary, corporate tool, Bill Clinton is a *liberal* ??? G'z... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FW: Crying in the Kitchen with Jane -Reply
-Caveat Lector- If Every One paid equal taxes we could collect 1% on ALL transactions and gain more money than we do now...the controllers have controlled it so they don't have to pay, just collect from usthey do not and will not pay their fair share, and think they are doing us a favor by snowing us with corrupt media and setting up a slavery-like work system. "Ronald L. Wilson." wrote: -Caveat Lector- Shipping jobs overseas leaves few entry level positions where Americans can make enough to meet our cost of living... They must do something... Many wind up in jail for one reason or another, but in any case managed by $60,000 per year attendents.. Another point frequently overlooked is that under our current tax system, only American workers and Corporations pay the cost of all of our Government... If we used a paperfree National Retail Sales Tax, everything sold in the United States would pay an equal amount of our costs regardless of where or by whom it was made Ron Wilson DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove wrote: -Caveat Lector- Strangely enough, Abraham served meat and milk to his Guests (Genesis 18:8 JPS TNK). This is true. However, the guests were there to announce God's covenant with Abraham (and the imminent appearance of Isaac), the beginning of Judaism. Since Judaism was in its embryonic state at this time, the laws forbidding "seeth[ing] a kid in its mothers milk" had not yet been codified. That wasn't done until Moses' time, several hundred years later. Perhaps Joshua or Michael can fill in some more details Tenorlove Probably much later than that. The clerics didn't start complicating things until they became well established. Probably after the destruction of the first temple when the population was enslaved and taken to Babylon where the Rabbis created a framework of cultural rules to keep the exiles intact. I think this is correct, but I'm not sure. Joshua2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] *NEW* algore proposes total handgun ban *NEW*
-Caveat Lector- If the choice is Al Gore or George W., there is really no choice at all. The first will take you to hell in the fast lane, the other will take you there in the slow lane. Either way, your destination is the same -- you're still on the highway to hell. -- NRA-ILA News Releases 1-800-392-8683 News Release -- Sept. 17, 1999 Gore Calls for Banning Handguns NRA members, gun owners outraged after Gore proposes total handgun ban on "Larry King Live" (WASHINGTON, DC) -- Al Gore flatly called for a total ban on handguns during last night's appearance on CNN's "Larry King Live" and, in the process, riled up gun owners and NRA members a year before the critical Presidential election. "Al Gore wants a total ban on lawful ownership of handguns," said James J. Baker, executive director of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action. "He didn't mince words. He didn't stumble. He said what NRA members have suspected all along, that he believes firearms have no place in our society, that he wants to ban them and take them away from lawful American citizens." During the September 16 program, Gore referred to 9 mm and .380 caliber handguns -- two of the most popular handgun calibers, owned by millions of law-abiding Americans. "I think that we should ban so-called junk guns. I think we should ban assault weapons like the weapons used here, yes. I think that the kinds of weapons that have no legitimate use for hunting or the kind of weapon that a homeowner would use, I think they should be banned, yes, those kind of weapons ... These semiautomatic handguns ... they really have no place in our society," Gore told Larry King. Baker said Gore should do his homework before calling for a total handgun ban. "Apparently, Al Gore does not know that literally tens of millions of Americans own these very popular handgun calibers, for personal protection, sport shooting and other lawful purposes," Baker said. "Indeed, these very common firearms hold a valuable place in the hands of peaceful citizens who exercise their Second Amendment right to own a firearm." NRA members and law-abiding, gun-owning voters are paying attention to Gore's proposed ban, Baker said. "Our phones have been ringing off the hook," Baker said. "Our members and gun owners in general heard Gore's message loud and clear. He wants to ban handgun ownership in America and that is a message that lawful Americans who value their rights will reject at the polls. When given the choice, Americans vote for their rights and their freedoms, a lesson Al Gore has apparently not yet learned." Posted: 1999-09-17 http://www.nraila.org/ Bard Reform Party News (http://www.reformparty.org) Libertarian Party (http://www.lp.org) U.S. Taxpayers Party (http://www.ustaxpayers.org) The assumption behind that question is that all the votes in 2000 belong to Republicans and Democrats that they own them ... Votes belong to individual citizens, to the American people, none of whom have cast them yet. Pat Buchanan - 09/17/99 http://www.gopatgo2000.org/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Wall St. Journal cuts pensions (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/21/1999 6:17:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But Journal reporters say that their contract -- which expired on Aug. 31 -- specifies a 35-hour work week and that its language seems to acknowledge the relevance of overtime to their jobs. "Overtime shall be worked only when authorized by a supervisor or when reasonably required to complete work assigned by a supervisor," reads the contract, portions of which were provided to The New York Times by a Journal reporter. Skinner's memo, which arrived in e-mailboxes as reporters were leaving for the weekend, left some reporters fuming. Robert Langreth, who covers pharmaceuticals and who put in for more than 10 hours of overtime last week, said that both the message and its impersonal electronic delivery meant "management is saying, 'We don't care about you. Well, you know how it is! The Wallstreet Journal is a really "conservative" outfit. Just a preview of what is to come, wouldn't you say? Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Smyrna
-Caveat Lector- I shouldnt reveal this secret, but what do you think the witches were making in Macbeth, but the occult secret recipe for making the living Haggis, the terror of the hills, the fear of the scotsmen in their kilts. anyway between jewish cheesburgers and the malevolent haggiss are we a conspiracy group of a food circle (and dont forget the theological implications of the haggis) John -Original Message- From: Prudence L. Kuhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 September 1999 04:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Smyrna -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/17/1999 1:35:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just remember: a haggis in the hand is worth two in the bush... (Actually, a haggis in the hand is extremely messy!) Well if you hold it gently, it won't mind too much. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] St. Paul rape victim's brother perpetrator, not rescuer, cops say
-Caveat Lector- Published Wednesday, September 22, 1999 St. Paul rape victim's brother perpetrator, not rescuer, cops say Heron Marquez Estrada / Star Tribune Police investigating the rape of an 8-year-old St. Paul girl by a group of elementary school boys in an abandoned house said Tuesday that her 9-year-old brother took her into the house and participated in the attack. The siblings first covered up the attack, which occurred more than a week ago, then told police that the boy had tried to rescue his sister from six boys ranging in age from 6 to 13 who had sexually assaulted her for about an hour. Police talked to the other alleged assailants Tuesday and all six admitted the attack but said the brother had instigated it. After interviewing the victim and all the suspects, police ruled out the possibility that the attack was gang-related or connected to a series of rapes during the past two years that were part of local gang-initiation rites. Although no arrests have been made, the girl will look at photos today to see if she can identify her attackers, police said. Also, the case will be turned over today to the Ramsey County attorney's office for possible prosecution. Several of the boys allegedly involved in the attack, including the girl's brother, are under 10 years old, the minimum age for criminal prosecution in Minnesota. "The child's conduct would be addressed in the child protection system," Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner said. She said a defendant under 10 could be placed in a treatment or rehabilitation center. The remainder of the boys are under 14 and cannot be tried as adults. If convicted, they could be confined in a juvenile institution, but only until they turn 19. Police spokesman Michael Jordan said the girl was expected to see a doctor last week to be examined, but she didn't. He said police had "no question" that she was telling the truth about the rape. Sgt. Jon Loretz also said that he is "absolutely convinced" that a sexual assault took place, but that it remains unclear exactly when. The youngsters involved have been unable to recall specific dates, but police believe it happened during the Labor Day holiday or the following weekend. Police said the children are playmates who live within several blocks of each other in the Frogtown neighborhood. The attack took place in a house on Sherburne Avenue near Chatsworth Street. It was abandoned last September following a foreclosure. The city condemned it pending a possible sale, but it has been on the market for months. "We're wondering why this happened," Loretz said Tuesday after interviewing the kids. "There was some peer pressure going on. It's almost like the snowball [effect] just kept getting worse." Police said there is no history of police calls or interventions at the family home. According to the other boys, the group was inside the house playing hide-and-go-seek, riding skateboards and trading Pokemon cards when the girl was brought inside by her brother, who was allegedly the first to assault her. The other boys then either penetrated the girl or fondled her genitals, according to police reports. One 9-year-old told police he only observed. © Copyright 1999 Star Tribune. All rights reserved. http://www.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=rape22 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Conjunction Movie
-Caveat Lector- This page shows a QuickTime animation of the motion of the planets during the time period surrounding 5/5/2000. If you are using a Windows based computer you will need Apple's QuickTime for Windows package installed before you can view it. You can download it for free from Apple. It was created using StarryNight for PowerMacintosh, v. 2.1.3, from Sienna Software. http://drumright.ossm.edu/astronomy/movie.html Enjoy, Bard Are you... beginning to think violent rebellion might be the ultimate, dreaded answer? Stop! Wait! There are a lot more things you can do! --from Don't Shoot the Bastards [Bitches] (Yet) by Claire Wolfe http://www.curleywolfe.net/cw/Lodge.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 93 arrested in crackdown on Mexican drug cartel
-Caveat Lector- To be published Thursday, September 23, 1999 93 arrested in crackdown on Mexican drug cartel Associated Press ARLINGTON, Va. -- Ninety-three people have been arrested in a crackdown on one of the largest drug cartels in Mexico, federal law enforcement officials said today. Nearly $20 million in cash and $7 million in other assets were seized during the two-year investigation, dubbed ``Operation Impunity.'' The campaign was conducted by the FBI, Drug Enforcement Administration and Customs Bureau. Key to the success was apprehension of three alleged ``cell heads'' running the drug trafficking organization that remained after the death of Amado Carrillo Fuentes, officials said. He was known as the ``Lord of the Skies'' because of his use of large aircraft to move drugs. Carrillo was considered Mexico's No. 1 drug lord until he died in July 1997 while recovering from plastic surgery. ``The impact of Operation Impunity is significant. By targeting the cartel's importation, transportation and distribution network we have substantially hindered their ability to move cocaine and other drugs into and around this country,'' Attorney General Janet Reno said in a written statement. The three cell heads- Arturo Arredondo, Jesse Qanilla and Jorge Ontiveros-Rodriguez - directed the Carrillo cartel's operations in U.S. cities, according to the Justice Department. The department said Arredondo had overall responsibility for U.S. transportation and distribution of the organization's drugs, while Qanilla managed the cartel's distribution of Mexican cocaine in Chicago and Ontiveros-Rodriguez was responsible for operations in San Diego. In addition to cash and other assets, agents seized more than 12,000 kilograms of cocaine and 4,800 pounds of marijuana. U.S.-Mexican relations worsened in May 1998 after U.S. officials announced that a sting operation had snared some 160 people suspected of laundering drug profits, including two dozen Mexican bank executives who had been lured to the United States and arrested. The disclosure of the three-year probe known as ``Operation Casablanca'' provoked stern criticism by Mexican officials, who objected to the use of U.S. undercover agents in Mexico without the government's knowledge. U.S. law enforcement officials said they didn't notify Mexico because they feared endangering undercover agents. Mexico's anti-drug operations often are infiltrated by drug gangs. With sovereignty a touchy subject among Mexicans, politicians denounced the intrusion and threatened to suspend cooperation in anti-drug efforts. The Foreign Relations ministry filed a formal protest and said it could seek to extradite and prosecute the agents who had operated in Mexico without authorization. President Clinton expressed regret for not consulting with Mexican authorities and Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo pledged to continue anti-drug cooperation. © Copyright 1999 Associated Press. All rights reserved. http://www.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=drug23 Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Smyrna
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/22/1999 6:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I shouldnt reveal this secret, but what do you think the witches were making in Macbeth, but the occult secret recipe for making the living Haggis, the terror of the hills, the fear of the scotsmen in their kilts. Well of course, one should never wear kilts around the living Haggis. You know how they are. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] why no cheeseburgers
-Caveat Lector- I believe the various documents that make up the Torah was set down in writing during the reign of King Josiah ca. 6th centure BCE. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] {FWD}The Spittle is Flyin' Now!
-Caveat Lector- Remember: AntiWar.CoM is a division of the Centre for Libertarian Studies. Also a chance to be enlightened by "The Donald". --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Linda Muller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:22:02 -0400 Subject:[BRIGADE] The Spittle is Flyin' Now! PJB vs War Party: An Epic Battle Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Brigade, "The war cries of the media lynch mob are stunning in their vehemence and their variety: "Isolationist!" "nativist" "racist" "fascist" "Hitler-lovin' Nazi" the string of epithets is endless, and you can feel the spittle on your face as the words, propelled by hyperventilated outrage, leap off the page. All are all piling on Pat in a frenzied (and barely coherent) attempt to not only rebut his case but to completely discredit and banish the subject from public discussion permanently, if possible" Another GREAT column by Justin Raimondo - http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j092299.html GO PAT GO Linda -- September 22, 1999 BUCHANAN VERSUS THE WAR PARTY: AN EPIC BATTLE by Justin Raimondo Pat Buchanan's blockbuster book, A Republic, Not an Empire, the magnificent manifesto of conservative noninterventionism reviewed in my last column has the War Party in a panic. Both the "right" and "left" wings are up in arms, howling for the blood of the heretic. How dare he challenge that holiest of interventionist holies, World War II, the crucible of the Soviet Empire and the creator and guarantor of the modern Welfare-Warfare State! THE LYNCH MOB GATHERS From such worthies as Bill Kristol, William Safire, Charles Krauthammer, and all the usual suspects on the neoconservative "Right," to Chris Matthews, the Anti-Defamation League, Salon Magazine, and what remains of the Popular Front coalition of the 1930s, the chorus of condemnation is not only loud: these people are practically frothing at the mouth. This impressive display of Left-Right unanimity underscores the narrowness of the politically permissible and the reality of the ideological dictatorship we are living under. The war cries of the media lynch mob are stunning in their vehemence and their variety: "Isolationist!" "nativist" "racist" "fascist" "Hitler-lovin' Nazi" the string of epithets is endless, and you can feel the spittle on your face as the words, propelled by hyperventilated outrage, leap off the page. All are all piling on Pat in a frenzied (and barely coherent) attempt to not only rebut his case but to completely discredit and banish the subject from public discussion permanently, if possible. A TEST CASE For the War Party, this is a test case. If they can defeat and destroy Buchanan on this issue, then their job is made all that much easier the next time they want to launch a "humanitarian" invasion of a sovereign nation. The argument will go something like this: THE ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION "So, you oppose sending U.S. troops to, say, Colombia, or to the Caucasus what are you, some kind of isolationist-nativist-racist-Nazi Buchanan-loving subversive? What about World War II? What about Hitler?!" There will be no argument, no debate over the merits of the issue because the goal of Pat's opponents is to make rational discussion of foreign policy a hate crime. The War Party has big ambitions for the new millennium, and they aren't going to let the American electoral process trifle with their plans. TRUMPING HISTORY The desperation of these people, in their frantic flailing at Buchanan, reached comic proportions when they pulled out their real trump card Donald Trump! Known as "The Donald" to those New Yorkers who have come to know and disdain him over the years, the multimillionaire casino operator and real estate developer has had a reputation as a man-about-town with a remarkable penchant for vulgarity both in his architectural tastes and his personal life but never, until this moment, as an historian. THE PLAYBOY HISTORIAN Alas, the New York playboy's debut as a social
Re: [CTRL] FW: [apfn] FROM: DAVID KORESH, ATTY IN FACT GARY HUNT
-Caveat Lector- Is there any way of reading this attachment without spending $40 bucks for software to unzip it? Perhaps it could be sent RTF? Thanks in advance for your help. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- Try searching on "Arrhenius" and "Panspermia". -Original Message- From: earthman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth -Caveat Lector- Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of life on earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and it is has a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and it is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a site is that has this.. I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish. Peter. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] PJB: Arguments Based on History
-Caveat Lector- The crucial point at which Western intervention against Hitler would have aborted all of the Nazi schemes was in 1934, when Hitler rearmed the Rhineland. Virtually the entire Reichswehr--not yet the Wehrmacht--was committed to the sham "show of force" by Berlin. *Literally* the entire Luftwaffe was deployed, with planes circling again and again to give the impression of unstoppable aerial armadas--when in reality Germany had no more than a squadron of fighter aircraft. Had the French moved against the Germans at this point, Britain would have had no option but to join them. The French, however, were governed by a United Front (Socialist/Communist) government, nearly pacifist in inclination, which took one look at the German "armies" and ordered all French forces withdrawn from the Rhineland. Even the appearance of an armored brigade would have forced Hitler to pull his troops back immediately; but, as so often with the Third Reich, the "civilized" powers of the West took the Germans at face value, and assumed that because Hitler *behaved* as if he had overwhelming military strength, he actually *did* have overwhelming military strength--at a time when the German General Staff was forecasting that they would not be adequately rearmed until 1942 at the earliest. -Original Message- snip My argument that it was a mistake for Britain to give a "war guarantee" to Poland in the spring of 1939 is based on history. Not only did the guarantee fail to save Poland, it led to total disaster for Poland and to a Nazi invasion and occupation of Western Europe. snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The End is Nigh
-Caveat Lector- What's the line on the End of the World at Ladbroke's these days? -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] The End is Nigh -Caveat Lector- Is the End near? Check out the track-record of doomsayers ... http://www.primenet.com/~heuvelc/skeptic/predictions.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Police Say 9-Year-Old Boy Led Gang Rape of 8-Year-Old Sister
-Caveat Lector- Police Say 9-Year-Old Boy Led Gang Rape of 8-Year-Old Sister ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- A 9-year-old boy instigated and then participated in the gang rape of his 8-year-old sister, police said Tuesday. The boy persuaded his sister to enter an abandoned house and "to some degree directed the activities of the others," the St. Paul Police Department said. He admitted that he raped his sister, police spokesman Michael Jordan said. Seven boys -- ages 6 to 13 -- are suspected in the attack. Police questioned three Monday at an elementary school and the other four Tuesday. The victim and her attackers were "playmates," police said. Police said four of the boys raped the girl, including her brother. "It's a bad situation," Jordan said. "It's a terrible impact certainly on this little girl and possibly some of the boys." No arrests have been made. A photo lineup was planned for Wednesday for the victim to identify her attackers. The attack occurred on Sept. 7 or 8, but wasn't reported to police until last week by the victim's mother. Originally, the girl had told police that one of her brothers heard her cries and tried to help, but at least two of the suspects stopped him. That brother then left to get an older brother, who was able to rescue her, she told police. After questioning seven boys who were in the vacant house at the time of the attack, police determined that her brother had been involved and had told her not to tell her mother what happened. Copyright 1999 The Associated Press . All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. === Robert F. Tatman Computer Help Desk Desktop LAN Services Systems Department Philadelphia Newspapers, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 215.854.2729 215.854.2788 The contents of this message represent the opinion only of the writer, and may not be construed to indicate the endorsement of Knight-Ridder, Inc.; Philadelphia Newspapers, Inc.; The Philadelphia Inquirer; or the Philadelphia Daily News. "Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nigeria: Routing Cultism
-Caveat Lector- From The News (Lagos, Nigeria), via Africa News Online... Routing Cultism Lagos (The News, August 16, 1999) - It would have been a miracle of sorts if the secret cult phenomenon had not reared its head in our various tertiary institutions, given the various desperate developments in the larger society these past 15 years. We had it coming all along. True, the seeds had always been there, but the society has, in recent times, provided the fertile soil and nurtured the seed of brigandage to unfettered growth. Rather than acknowledge where we missed the boat, we have made a national pastime of pious pontifications on a problem which is only a mirror-reflection of our general social decay. In attempting to get to the bottom of the problem of campus cults and crimes, we should also examine the daily diet of violence we feed our youths through the media and everyday living. Our young people have come to learn that might is right. The god that controls their minds is always on the side of the bigger battalion. Words such as justice, truth and fairness don't exist in their lexicon. We have taught them that the end justifies the means. If we dig well enough, we may well discover that a good number of the so- called secret cultists in our higher institutions are children of the affluent. Children who were born but not bred. Children who failed JAMB only to be smuggled into the institutions on the stroke of their parent's executive pen. Children who live in their own evil world where, in the words of Malcolm Muggeridge, "the orgasm has replaced the cross as the focus of longing and fulfillment." A young boy who has been used to having his way all his life and whose daddy is always there to bend rules and give him all the support he does not deserve, will probably end up a criminal. He will visit violence on his immediate environment. He will enrol in the most dreadful of the cults. He will destroy whatever he perceives as standing between him and 'happiness.' His target may be a lecturer whose course he had failed; a female student who had rejected his amorous advances; or a fellow 'macho' who was claiming 'equality' with him. For him, 'happiness' means having his way at all times. Peer pressure also plays a part. In trying to keep up with the vogue, an otherwise level-headed student may be misled into joining one of the dreadful cults. In these days when those running our higher institutions seem to think that the best way to stem the crisis on campus is to ban, infiltrate or otherwise destroy the students' union, the rising wave of campus cults would probably teach them not to urinate in a well from which they might drink. It is better to deal with a students' union than to broker a truce between warring campus gangs of no fixed address. A strong students' union would never tolerate a group of gangsters forming a parallel government on campus. Considering that cultism - with its harvest of death, maiming, rape and destruction of property - is now threatening the very essence of higher educational institutions in Nigeria, it is time we dealt a death blow to the phenomenon. Enough is enough, or as Olatunji Dare the former Guardian columnist would put it, "Enough is already too much". Every self-respecting adult should feel affronted that a handful of criminally-inclined children are literally holding our higher institutions to ransom. vice-chancellors, rectors and other institutional heads should feel even much more so. Now to the question: How do we solve the problem? First, our higher institutions must be run as designed by the laws establishing them. Universities, polytechnics and colleges of education and technology are not academic cantonments or intellectual barracks where teachers must teach only 'what they are paid to teach' (apologies to Chukwumerije). We must run our higher institutions as they are run all over the world. Secondly, we must also encourage democratic culture in the larger society so that everyone gets used to dialogue, negotiation and civilised conduct. Those running the affairs of our institutions must learn to dialogue with their students, thereby making them part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Students are adults too. They must be encouraged to take responsibility by making input into decision-making and how the institution is run. I challenge all the vice-chancellors and rectors in this country to work hand in hand with their students' unions on the campus cult problem and watch if they would not achieve better results. The bee might be a small insect, but it does produce honey which is much more than you can say for the elephant. Permit me to share my personal experience as a student leader at the University of Ife. We had the cults, but they were all registered with the Students' union and with the Directorate of Student Affairs. They had fixed addresses. We knew their officers and advisers (who must be lecturers). Before my tenure, there had been
[CTRL] Bob Strauss, James Baker III and Bush Sr.
-Caveat Lector- What this article fails to mention is that Bob Strauss was the senior partner of Dallas lobbying law firm, Akin, Gump which hired Clinton's transition chief Vernon Jordan to find people to serve in the new "Democratic" administration. Strauss' law firm had offices in the RepublicBank Building in Dallas before moving across the street, within spitting distance of Dresser Industries. Bruce Rappaport was an insurance tycoon in Waco, Texas, contributing to the state's liberals. His name was mentioned during the Walsh investigation of Iran Contra. It turned out some of the money supposedly deposited into the North/Secord Lake Resources account ended up in Rappaport's numbered account. And if you want more information on Marvin Warner, he was the Cincinnati Democrat that Jimmie Carter appointed to be Ambassador to Switzerland. While Warner was in Switzerland, he left his Ohio banks in charge of a Miami banker, who later moved to Australia to work for Nugan Hand Bank. Does the term "CIA money-laundering" come to mind? Linda Minor http://www.larouchecampaign.org/pages/lhr08289release.html Vice President Al Gore's seminal role in protecting and abetting the kleptocrats and oligarchs who have looted Russia blind over the past seven years has been belatedly noted by the major American media, as a feature of the Bank of New York $15 billion Russian money-laundering scandal. But, to date, the media have failed to report that, long before Al Gore entered into his criminal partnership with former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin and others in the Boris Yeltsin Kremlin mafia, then-President George Bush helped usher in the decade of looting of Russia's national patrimony in league with his British nanny, Margaret Thatcher. Nothing more clearly symbolized Bush's commitment to the free market and International Monetary Fund looting of Russia than his June 5, 1991 appointment of longtime Texas Democratic Party fixer Robert Strauss as his ambassador to Moscow, replacing Jack Matlock. Lyndon LaRouche would dub Strauss the "Prince of Thieves,'' the man George Bush dispatched to Moscow to teach the Russians oligarchs how to more professionally loot the country of its raw material wealth, drain its banks of cash, and dismantle its once-powerful military-industrial-scientific complex. Strauss had long-standing ties to the Bush-Baker duo. Indeed, all three men were products of the Brown Brothers Harriman "invasion'' of Texas, a generation earlier. In 1980, while he was running Jimmy Carter's failed reelection campaign, and James Baker III was a central figure in the Reagan-Bush campaign, Strauss and Baker, along with Strauss' son, were co-owners of a California brewery. Strauss and his wife were intimate personal friends of George and Barbara Bush. The two couples spent long hours together at the White House during the height of Bush's early 1991 Desert Storm war against Iraq, when, according to Presidential biographer Bob Woodward, Bush was near nervous breakdown. At the time of his appointment to the Moscow posting, Strauss was the attorney and a board member for Dwayne Andreas' Archer Daniels Midland grain cartel; he held similar positions with RJR Nabisco, the tobacco and food cartel owned by the family of Bush White House general counsel C. Boyden Gray; and he was also a director of Conrad Black's Thatcherite media cartel, the Hollinger Corporation--along with Thatcher and Henry Kissinger. One of Strauss' most pressing missions, during his tenure in Moscow, was to assure that Russia and the other nations in the Commonwealth of Independent States were drawn into the International Monetary Fund--to assure that no measures were taken to interfere with the wholesale looting of Russia. Bush made Russian enslavement to the IMF a major theme of his 1992 State of the Union speech, and a subsequent Washington summit with the newly anointed Russian ruler, Boris Yeltsin. Strauss had arrived in Moscow during the final months of the Soviet Union, and he and Bush were on hand for the imposition of the first "shock therapy'' treatments, by a combination of foreign predators and already-corrupted Russian "reformers.'' Bank of New York's access to the fast and loose Russian financial structures came top down, via one of the most notorious of the Western "bankers'' who had built a "special relationship'' to corrupt elements of the Soviet era "nomenklatura,'' Bruce Rappaport. From 1980, at the latest, BONY had been absorbed into the hot-money empire of the Swiss-based wheeler dealer. First, Rappaport bought an 8% stake in Bank of New York, giving him the largest single stake in the bank. In 1990, Bank of New York purchased 28% of Rappaport's Geneva bank, Inter Maritime, in effect, transforming it into the private banking arm of BONY. In fact, significant portions of the $15 billion in Russian cash laundered into the BONY, first passed through Bank of New York-Inter Maritime in Geneva. Throughout the
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Bill. It was not the piece I was referring too but very interesting anyway. Hmmm does it mean we should or should not eat mushrooms? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth -Caveat Lector- The first time I saw that proposition was in a book called Magic Mushroom Cultivation...one of the first written, from the seventies...it told first person, from a mycelial networks point of view, of the code it carries from planet to planet via fungus spores. This idea has since been propounded enormously and that is a good thingthe coverings of fungus spores, which are microscopic, are made of the hardest biological material knownit is supposed these vastly miniature seeds, each carrying within itself 90% of the DNA of everything alive here today, can even withstand even the rigors of space...they of course migrate through the atmosphere, and some even get out of the atmosphere, to be blown along by the slight but extremely persistent solar windand awy we go...there is one mycelial growth out west that covers many hundreds of acres, all underground of course, and has been estimated at 1500 years old I think earthman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of life on earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and it is has a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and it is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a site is that has this.. I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish. Peter. We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
[CTRL] BRITAIN SELLS MILITARY JETS TO JAKARTA ANYWAY
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Michael Eisenscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: BRITAIN SELLS MILITARY JETS TO JAKARTA Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:05:21 -0500 (CDT) The Globe and Mail Monday, September 20, 1999 BRITAIN SENDS MILITARY JETS TO JAKARTA Labour government says deal was done before European Union imposed arms embargo on Indonesia London -- The government of Prime Minister Tony Blair came under a hail of criticism yesterday over the imminent delivery of British military planes to Indonesia despite an EU embargo resulting from the East Timor crisis. Three Hawk ground-attack aircraft at the centre of the upset, bound for Indonesia, were grounded in Thailand, officially because one of the transit pilots was ill. The government said it was powerless to stop delivery of the Hawks to Indonesia because the contract was signed before the European Union decreed an arms embargo last week. The Conservative opposition used the occasion to attack the Labour cabinet for not living up to its promises of "ethical diplomacy." But "delivery was taken by the Indonesians before the embargo, indeed before the current crisis" in East Timor, the Labour junior defence minister John Spellar said in a televised interview. "Obviously, in the spirit of the embargo, we would prefer that they did not go to Indonesia," he said. Mr. Spellar noted that the three Hawk jets currently are in Thailand and that Britain no longer was responsible for them. "Delivery has already been taken by the Indonesian government and they are in Thailand, which is a sovereign independent country, and they are owned by another sovereign independent country," he explained. The EU issued the arms embargo against Indonesia on Sept. 13, in response to attacks by militias backed by Jakarta's forces against East Timorese who voted overwhelmingly for independence on Aug. 30. Mr. Spellar noted that the original contract had been signed by the previous Conservative government. Menzies Campbell, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs and defence spokesman, said: "The Indonesians have broken the conditions upon which these aircraft were to be supplied. There is no legal or moral obligation for Britain to continue to fulfill the contract." He said the British government was responsible for the confusion, leaving "itself open to accusations of complicity in the genocide in East Timor, both by arming the Indonesian generals and its refusal to revoke the licenses for the Hawks." The affair was revealed by The Sunday Times newspaper, which said the planes were grounded in Thailand after an intervention by Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, and not due to the ill health of one of the pilots. A total of nine Hawks were granted export licences by the former government. They are among a batch of 16 ordered in 1996, the key component of an estimated $715-million arms deal. There has been concern that Indonesia has flown some of the already delivered Hawks over East Timor despite assurances that it would not. Far closer to the distressed territory, East Timorese rebel leader Jose Alexandre (Xanana) Gusmao has left Indonesia for Darwin, Australia, officials in Jakarta said yesterday, raising speculation he would soon return to his homeland. Mr. Gusmao, widely expected to become the first president of independent East Timor, had been staying at the embassy since the Indonesian government released him from house arrest earlier this month. He had served nearly seven years in prison. Mr. Gusmao will lead a meeting in Darwin next week on East Timor's transition from an Indonesian province to a sovereign nation, Indonesia's Antara news agency reported. His Indonesian lawyer said he left his British sanctuary because he was worried about his security if he remained in Jakarta. "It could endanger his life if he stayed longer in the British embassy compound. The compound is inside Indonesian territory," said Hendardi, who, like many Indonesians, uses only one name. Protest marchers in Jakarta in the past week have angrily denounced Mr. Gusmao, calling for him to be hanged and pasting the front of the British embassy with anti-Gusmao posters. Hendardi said Mr. Gusmao is unlikely to go to East Timor until peacekeeping forces had quelled violence there. "It would be good if [Mr. Gusmao] can finally go to East Timor to help with reconciliation," he added. Before his arrest, Mr. Gusmao led a two-decade guerrilla war against the Indonesian occupation of East Timor. Indonesia invaded the former Portuguese colony in 1975 and annexed it in 1976. In Fatima, Portugal, East Timor's Nobel Peace Prize winner, Bishop Carlos Belo, said yesterday he would return to Dili when the city was calm and a multinational peacekeeping force had been deployed across the territory. AFP, AP and Reuters || In accordance with Title
[CTRL] NYC: Updated Spraying Schedule as of 9/20/99 amp;amp; responses to spraying
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: NYC: Updated Spraying Schedule as of 9/20/99 responses to spraying Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:26:41 -0500 (CDT) To send an email message to the Mayor or any other major official in NYC go to: http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/misc/html/giumsg.html#list You can individually type in your message for each or, using your right mouse button, paste in a pre-written message. Let them know what you think of their Malathion Marathon continuing. Most Current Spraying Schedule Provided by Mayor's Office of Emergency Management FROM: http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/oem/html/spraying_sched.html See the Department of Health's information regarding Encephalitis (St. Louis) Outbreak. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Sunday, September 19, 1999 Contact: Sunny Mindel/Matt Higgins 212-788-2958 Matt Furman-OEM 212-442-2031 REVISED SCHEDULE MAYORS OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ANNOUNCES FULL SCHEDULE FOR MOSQUITO SPRAYING Please note that this schedule is weather dependent. High winds, fog or rain can force the City to postpone spraying. Additionally, the only insecticide being used during ground application is Resmithrin and the two being used by helicopter are Sumithrin and Malathion. The City has modified its spraying schedule for logistical reasons in an effort to maximize its resources. Please note that some communities have been moved up from Tuesday to Monday and others moved from Sunday or Monday to Tuesday and the method of distribution has changed for some. SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 18, 1999 AIR APPLICATION 5:00 P.M. TO 9:30P.M. BROOKLYN Greenpoint, Northside, Southside, Ridgewood, Bushwick, Vinegar Hill, Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn Heights, Downtown Brooklyn, Fort Green, Clinton Hill, Cobble Hill, Boerum Hill, Bedford Stuyvesant , Stuyvesant Heights, Ocean Hill, Prospect Heights, Red Hook, Carroll Gardens, Gowanus, Park Slope, Weeksville, Wingate, Rugby, Prospect Park, Prospect Lefferts Garden, Glenwood Heights, Windsor Terrace, Sunset Park, Mapleton, Ditmas Park, Parkville, Flatbush, Prospect Park South, Kensington. QUEENS Fort Totten, Bay Terrace, Auburndale, Bayside, Douglas Manor, Douglaston, Little Neck, Fresh Meadow, Oakland Garden, Hollis Hill, Queensborough Hill, Pomonok, Kew Gardens Hills, Hillcrest GROUND APPLICATION QUEENS Sunnyside, Woodside, Steinway, East Elmhurst, Corona, Elmhurst, College Point, Malba, Whitestone, Beechurst, Linden Hill, Murray Hill, Flushing, Lindenwood, Howard Beach, South Ozone Park, Springfield Gardens, Laurelton, Brookville, Rosedale, Cambria Heights, Jackson Heights SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 19, 1999 AIR APPLICATION 5:00 P.M. TO 9:30 P.M. BRONX Throgs Neck, Edgewater Park, Schuylerville, Eastchester Bay, Country Club, Spencer Estates, Middletown, Pelham Bay, Unionport, Bruckner, Bronx River, Parkchester, West Farms, Van Nest, Morris Park, Westchester Square, Bronxdale, Pelham Parkway, Allerton, Pelham Gardens, Soundview Park, Baychester, Olinville, Co-Op City, Williamsbridge, Pelham Bay Park, Edenwald, Wakefield, Eastchester, City Island BROOKLYN Marine Park, Mill Island, Bergen Beach, Georgetown, Paedergat, Canarsie, Remsen Village, Brownsville, Starrett City, Spring Creek, New Lots, East New York, Highland Park, Cypress Hills, City Line, Flatlands SUNDAY - GROUND APPLICATION: 10:00 P.M. to 6:00 A.M. BRONX Port Morris, Huntspoint, Soundview, Harding Park, Closson Point, Castle Hill. MANHATTAN: ALL MONDAY SEPTEMBER 20, 1999 AIR APPLICATION 5:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M BRONX University Heights, Fordham, Morris Heights, Tremont, Belmont, East Tremont, Mount Hope, Mount Eden, Bathgate, Bronx Park South, Highbridge, Concourse, Clairmont Village, Crotona Park East, Morrisana, Concourse Village, Melrose, The Hub, Longwood, Motthaven QUEENS West Maspeth, Maspeth, Middle Village, Glendale, Rego Park, Woodhaven, Ozone Park, Briarwood, Jamaica Hills, Jamaica Estates, Holliswood, Jamaica, South Jamaica, Hollis, Bellaire, Queens Village, Bellrose, Glen Oaks, Floral Park MONDAY - GROUND APPLICATION 10:00 P.M. to 6:00 A.M. QUEENS Ditmars, Astoria, Ravenswood, Queensbridge, Dutch Kills, Long Island City, Hunters Point, Blissville, Forrest Hills, Kew Gardens, Richmond Hill BRONX North Riverdale, South Riverdale, Riverdale, Fieldstone, South Riverdale, Kingsbridge, Marble Hill, Spuyten Duyvil, Van Cortlandt Village, Kingsbridge Heights, Bedford Park, Norwood, Woodlawn, Van Cortlandt Park TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 21, 1999 AIR APPLICATION 5:00 P.M. TO 9:30 P.M. BROOKLYN Sheephshead Bay, Manhattan Beach, Brighton Beach, Seagate, Gravesend, Ocean Parkway, Mill Basin, Midwood, Williamsburg, East Williamsburg, Borough Park, Bay Ridge, Fort Hamilton, Dyker Heights, Bath Beach, Bensonhurst, Homecrest, New Utrecht, Coney Island, Gerritsen Beach QUEENS (The Rockaways) Breezy Point, Roxbury, Neponsit, Belleharbor, Rockaway Park, Seaside, Hammels, Arverne, Sommerville,
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- I don't think the dude I am corresponding to is ready for that one yet..LOL Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: C Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth -Caveat Lector- Annunaki.. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FARC criticizes suspected alliance of US, Colombian governments
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Colombian Labor Monitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: FARC criticizes suspected alliance of US, Colombian governments Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:36:10 -0500 (CDT) Monday, 20 September 1999 FARC criticizes suspected alliance of US, Colombian governments -- BOGOTA -- The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) have criticized an alleged alliance between President Andres Pastrana and the US government to fight the rebels, saying it casts doubt on Colombia's peace efforts to end the country's decades-old conflict. "Pastrana's alliance with the United States of America to intensify the war in Colombia against FARC, which has been disguised as an attempt to fight drug trafficking together, casts doubt on the government's intentions for peace," the rebel group said in a statement Sunday obtained by AFP. FARC said the US and Colombian governments were applying "pressure to close us into a political position where we are forced through intimidation to accept conditions for coming to the negotiating table." Peace talks between the guerrillas and Andres Pastrana's government collapsed after the FARC threw out a government demand for an international force to monitor rebel activity in a 42,000-square-kilometer (16,000-square-mile) demilitarized zone under FARC control. The zone has been under rebel control since last November when Pastrana handed it over to the rebels in a bid to advance the peace process. Both sides resumed direct talks on September 10, but the issue remains unresolved. Peace commissioner Victor Ricardo said Saturday that the government was trying to bridge the gap over the zone. Earlier on Tuesday, the Colombian army deployed a US-trained anti-drug unit to cut the ties between rebels and drug trafficking in the southern part of the country. Many believe the army's greater involvement in the drug trafficking fight marks the start of larger military action against the rebels with participation of Washington. Copyright 1999 Agence France Presse * CLM-NEWS is brought to you by the COLOMBIAN LABOR MONITOR at * *http://www.prairienet.org/clm * * Email CLM at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or * * Dennis Grammenos at [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To subscribe send request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * subscribe clm-news Your Name * || In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. || http://www.angelfire.com/mi/smilinks/thirdeye.html || __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- Yep I think I am referring to that.. I have seen that theory floating around lately too, buggar it.There is a scientific term for it too. Heck it makes sense though doesn't it?. Thanks Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth -Caveat Lector- Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"? It has been proposed that the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that regularly impacted the earth from outer space. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- Thank you thank you, that is what it is called. Woo hoo. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"? It has been proposed that the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that regularly impacted the earth from outer space. I think it is called Panspermia. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- You don't happen to have their ETA do you? Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage Bargain Books http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186bfpage=b - Original Message - From: Mark McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth -Caveat Lector- C Davis wrote: Annunaki.. The Space Gods return! -- Mark McHugh Sizhu i bormochu... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you be talking about the "Star Seed Theory"? It has been proposed that the necessary ingredients for life were deposited here from comets that regularly impacted the earth from outer space. That's the "tradition" that is common to all ancient holy texts, even before Sumerian Cuniform and Arcadian texts. Ever heard of Sir Fred Hoyle, or Grote Freeber (BOTH on my hero list, i.e., prominant cosmologists that agree with my views of the universe). Hoyle is the one that came up with Panspermia Thesis, and the 20th century's version of Static Universe late last century, (i.e., the real deal), and Grote is the "father of radio telemetry" (i.e., invented radio telescopes, currently biulding the largerst antenna array in the world down under), and has almost single handedly advanced Hoyle's model of The Static Universe to account for ALL modern finds in cosmology, i.e., he was intigral to the confirmation of quasars, and is a quasar expert. Not only is most "New Age" stuff based on what all ancient holy texts before the Common Era advance, Hoyle's and Freeber's modern cosmological theories seem to be *exactly* what ALL ancient texts that I am aware of seem to be talking about, i.e., BIG BANG IS WRONG, and "Evolution" (with a cap E) is also WRONG, like a big dawg. In other words, "New Age science," currnent trends in modern science (from cosmology to geopaleoarcheology), and ancient texts seem to me to suggest that our evolution from basic life forms to advanced intelligent beings DID NOT occur *without* intervention. FYI: panspermia panspermia, noun The theory that microorganisms or biochemical compounds from outer space are responsible for originating life on Earth and possibly in other parts of the universe where suitable atmospheric conditions exist. [Greek, mixture of all seeds : pan-, pan- + sperma, seed. See sperm1.] Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved. Best regards, Mike = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The U.N. CAN Help Save The World.
-Caveat Lector- Source: Cornell University (http://www.news.cornell.edu) Date: Posted 9/22/99 A.D. 2100: Cornell Study Warns Of A Miserable Life On Overcrowded Earth If Population And Resources Are Not Controlled ITHACA, N.Y. -- One hundred years from now, democratically determined population-control practices and sound resource-management policies could have the planet's 2 billion people thriving in harmony with the environment. Lacking these approaches, a new Cornell University study suggests, 12 billon miserable humans will suffer a difficult life on Earth by the year 2100. "Of course, reducing population and using resources wisely will be a challenging task in the coming decades," says David Pimentel, lead author of the report titled "Will Limits of the Earth's Resources Control Human Numbers?" in the first issue of the journal Environment, Development and Sustainability. "It will be much more difficult," Pimentel says, "to survive in a world without voluntary controls on population growth and ever diminishing supplies of the Earth's resources." Even at a reduced world population of 2 billion in A.D. 2100, life for the average Earth dweller will not be as luxurious as it is for many Americans today. But the lifestyle won't be as wasteful of resources, either, the Cornell ecologist predicts. Some observers are seeing early signs that nature is taking a hand at reducing human populations through malnutrition and disease. According to the report, global climate change is beginning to contribute to the food and disease problems. "With a democratically determined population policy that respects basic individual rights, with sound resource-use policies, plus the support of science and technology to enhance energy supplies and protect the integrity of the environment," the report concludes, "an optimum population of 2 billion for the Earth can be achieved." Then the fortunate 2 billion will be free from poverty and starvation, living in an environment capable of sustaining human life with dignity, the report suggests, adding a cautionary note: "We must avoid letting human numbers continue to increase and surpass the limit of Earth's natural resources and forcing natural forces to control our number by disease, malnutrition and violent conflicts over resources," the report says. Among the key points in the report: -- The world population is projected to double in about 50 years. -- Even if a worldwide limit of 2.1 children per couple were adopted tomorrow, Earth's human population would continue to increase before stabilizing at around 12 billion in more than 60 years. The major reason for continued growth is "population momentum," due to the predominantly young age structure of the world population. -- The U.S. population has doubled during the past 60 years to 270 million and, at the current growth rate, is projected to double again, to 540 million, in the next 75 years. Each year our nation adds 3 million people (including legal immigrants) to its population, plus an estimated 400,000 illegal immigrants. -- Increasing U.S. and global population will place restrictions on certain freedoms: freedom to travel and commute to work quickly and efficiently, freedom to visit and enjoy natural areas, freedom to select desired foods and freedom to be effectively represented by government -- Today, more than 3 billion people suffer from malnutrition, the largest number and proportion of the world population in history, according to the World Health Organization. Malnutrition increases the susceptibility to diseases such as diarrhea and malaria. -- One reason for the increase in malnutrition is that production of grains per capita has been declining since 1983. Grains provide 80 percent to 90 percent of the world's food. Each additional human further reduces available food per capita. -- The reasons for this per capita decrease in food production are a 20 percent decline in cropland per capita, a 15 percent decrease in water for irrigation and a 23 percent drop in the use of fertilizers. -- Biotechnology and other technologies apparently have not been implemented fast enough to prevent declines in per capita food production during the past 17 years. -- Considering the resources likely to be available in A.D. 2100, the optimal world population would be about 2 billion, with a standard of living about half that of the United States in the 1990s, or at the standard experienced by the average European. The study was funded by Cornell University. In addition to Pimentel, authors of the Environment, Development and Sustainability report include Owen Bailey, Paul Kim, Elizabeth Mullaney, Joy Calabrese, Laura Walman, Fred Nelson nd Xiangjun Yao, all students at Cornell University. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with
Re: [CTRL] mind control
-Caveat Lector- Below please find a website with many links on the topic of mind control. My apologies to those that already know about this site. Sincerely, Neil Brick PS This may be triggering for survivors of RA/MC. Excerpts from http://www.aches-mc.org/mind_control.html Since at least 1945, hundreds, if not thousands of American and Canadian victims (primarily female) have been physically and sexually tortured, locked in cages, sadistically brainwashed with electricity, drugs and experimental military technologies, and programmed to perform specific tasks including crimes. Some were selected before birth, and tortured throughout infancy. For others the process began later in childhood or adulthood. Survivors' stories are remarkably similar, and it is believed that we are now entering an era where third generation human subjects are being subjected to torture to induce mind control programming that begins in infancy. All of this is done in the name of "National Security". The documented acts of torture and atrocity carried out by Nazi physicians under the Third Reich have been systematically exceeded by those conducting covert mind control experiments on human subjects in North America since the end of the last World War and beginning of the Cold War. While publicly condemning the race hatred and death camps of the Third Reich, the American and Canadian governments have been harboring a concentration camp without walls on this continent. Survivors, now in their thirties, forties and fifties are discovering themselves to be functioning as multiple personalities -- intentionally created to serve (body, mind and soul) as "Manchurian Candidates". Once selected, we have been used as human lab animals -- some of us have been used throughout our lifetime in one externally controlled and monitored experiment after another. These experiments are in total defiance of the laws of nature, the Nuremburg Code (which has been "official" American policy since 1946), the Hippocratic Oath, and the judicial system. They are also in total defiance of the guidelines for federally funded biomedical and behavioral research involving human subjects. However, members of the medical and behavioral research communities (bound by vested interests and threats to their professional, if not physical, lives) have been reluctant to publicly and academically address this situation. Consequently, at this moment, an aristocratic few (those most knowledgeable about behavior control and mind manipulation) are allowed to reach among those less privileged and select their experimental fodder. In March of 1995, Valerie Wolf, M.S.W., and two of her clients who had been subjected to mind control experimentation since early childhood appeared before the President's Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments. After consulting with forty other therapists across the country (the majority of whom remained anonymous for reasons of personal safety), Ms. Wolf documented in writing the names of the research projects and the names of the people involved. The two survivors, Claudia Mullen and Chris DeNicola Ebner, testified that as victims they experienced electric shock, hallucinogens, dislocation of limbs, sadistic acts of pedophilia, hypnosis and sensory deprivation. Often they were locked in cages for long periods of time. At the conclusion of the Presidential Hearing, the Committee recommended further exploration of the mind control experimentation on unwitting human subjects. It has been over a year and a half since this recommendation was made, but nothing further has been done by the President's Advisory Committee. You will not be surprised to learn that there has been no coverage or investigation by the mainstream media despite the testimony provided by Wolf, Mullen and Ebner. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: Media Played Dumb on Official Waco Dissent Three Years Ago
-Caveat Lector- forwarded from U.S. House Rep. Bob Barr Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Barr, Press [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:09 PM To: Barr, Press Subject: Media Played Dumb on Official Waco Dissent Three Years Ago NewsMax.com Inside Cover Wednesday September 22, 11:33 AM "Media Played Dumb on Official Waco Dissent Three Years Ago" As Congress and the press take a second look at Waco, mainstream journalists and administration spokesmen (if that's not redundant) regularly remind us that all previous investigations are in basic agreement on one key point: the Branch Davidians were at fault. The Davidians shot first in the initial Feb. 28, 1993 BATF assault on Mt. Carmel and they started the fire that consumed their compound 51-days later, according to every investigation with legal jurisdiction to examine the matter. At least that's what the press is telling us now. But the notion that there hasn't been any official disagreement by Waco probers over the last six years has one serious flaw. It's not true. In fact, in a four page dissenting opinion to the House's August 2, 1996 report on the "Investigation into the Activities of Federal Law Enforcement Agencies Toward the Branch Davidians," many of the same nagging questions that have driven a month's worth of recent headlines on Waco were presented quite starkly. The extraordinairly prescient report, submitted under the name of the late Rep. Steven Schiff (R-NM) and actually authored by Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), critiques the findings of the majority of a joint House committee that probed Waco in 1995, asserting that the official conclusions failed to address "several extremely important matters that came to light during the hearings and which deserve far more scrutiny than accorded heretofore." Here are a few excerpts, which the establishment press didn't see as particularly newsworthy when Barr's report was first released. MILITARIZATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT "Unfortunately, we saw in the Waco tragedy the blurring of the lines between domestic law enforcement and military operations: an operation carried out pursuant to a strategy designed to demolish an 'enemy,' utilizing tactics designed to cut off avenues of escape, drive an enemy out, and run roughshod over the 'niceties' of caring for the rights of those involved. The protestations of the Attorney General to the contrary, that she authorized the injection of debilitating CS gas into closed interior quarters with no ventillation where dozens of women and children were concentrated out of concern for the children, do not match the Government's actions." POSSE COMITATUS AND MILITARY INVOLVMENT "I seriously question the role of military officers being involved in strategy sessions, as on sight 'observers' and the presence of foriegn military personnel, and the use of military equipment such as armored vehicles. Contrary to the conclusion of the (majority) report, I am not convinced that the separation between military operations and domestic law enforcement, codified in the U.S. Code's 'Posse Comitatus' provisions, was not violated in the Waco operation." FLIR TAPES AND WHAT THEY SHOW "The Government used the (Forward Looking Infrared Radar) tapes to buttress their arguments that no shots were fired on April 19 from the outside of the compound into the compound, and that the fire that destroyed the compound was not started from the outside or by the Government vehiclesOn further examination of the FLIR tapes, after the hearings and in discussions with private parties who have reviewed the tapes, I believe sufficient questions have been raised to warrant further study of these two issues: were there shots fired from outside the compound into the compound on April 19th, and were the fires started -- intentionally or unintentionally -- by the armored military vehicles or personnel therein." THE FIRE "While the (majority) report concludes that the evidence clearly establishes that the fire that eventually consumed the Branch Davidian structure was started inside by the Davidians, I think that the most that can be said is that the fire may have been started inside, and even if it did, the evidence that it was deliberately set is inconclusive.At least some of the fires may have been caused as a result of the demolishing efforts of the armored military vehicles." BREACH OF ETHICS AND POSSIBLE OBSTRUCTION "Government documents clearly show deliberate efforts by Government attorneys to stop the collection of evidence and possibly cover-up evidence the Government did not want to be available later onI consider it extremely serious, especially when considered with evidence that two of the ATF agents (were) first disciplined and fired and then later reinstated and (had their) records
[CTRL] FW: SLUG Deletion: HUD, Drugs, Mind Control How We Make Money
-Caveat Lector- forwarded. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 6:07 PM Subject: SLUG Deletion: HUD, Drugs, Mind Control How We Make Money Good question. This has been what I have been trying to figure out. HUD is an enforcement operation that gives the federal government tremendous authority to be in and engineer activities within communities, including those used to retail drugs and some money laundering, as well as to hand out fees to political constituencies to own and control land and real estate in the particular place. The usual good government and libertarian forces do not object as the branding on HUD communities has persauded all that what is happening is entirely the fault of the citizenry. So this is a great place for what is about to happen to all of us to be testedslow moving viruses, buying in all the guns, non-lethal weapons. Once the operations folks have worked out the kinds and established the precedents, they can move it upscale quickly and we can do little. In 1992-96, a series of decisions were made by the federal government to do ethnic cleansing in these communities, one of the goals of which was substantial real estate profits on gentrification. (Ex: See LA Times yesterday...modest apartments up in value in South Central by 100%). The way this is being done is part of the reason I believe that we are coming in to an effort to flip the business model back to legal drugs. Theoretically, HUD subsidies and financing could fund properties and property management teams that could spend their time doing these things in support of gentrification or a variety of private activities. Think of it as a back door way of financing covert "black op" teams all across the country. If any of the rumours are true on the acceleration of ethnic cleansing in the US whether by round ups, incarceration, plagues, etc, this would be a perfect "force" multiplier. For example, HUD is putting out substantial drug elimination grants. What is that about? Popular novels seem to be saying something like this. "Gideon", recently named by People Magazine as page turner of the week, has the high level assasin parked on the payroll of Astor Management property management company in NY. I read it and saidhmmm...sounds like the Operation Safe Home and HUD enforcement game. Take a look at the Urban Fraud Iniatitive, designed to drop major teams in on black mayors in 2000. Meantime, DOJ has a Memorandum of Understanding with DOD to develop/prototype non-lethal weapons for domestic application. Given the volume of the testing needed, where are they going to do it? HUD is a logical place. It has authority to ride around in surveillance vans, hand out cash to informants, and make arrests in local neighborhoods without any one noticing too much. Substantial efforts appear to made to cut local enforcement into multijurisdictional task forces which get a piece of the asset forfeitures and headlines that make this sweet for them. Meantime, there appears to be plenty of money laundering through HUD properties and mortgage related operations. When the company leading on Promis software is making a big push in the mortgage software business and Bank Of New York has big fees in mortgages while allegedly vaccumming cleaning the core capital of Russia, we know the mortgage markets can not be unaffected. That means HUD because HUD has little disclosure and no capacity to see or prevent financial fraud. HUD personnel are focused on supporting ethnic cleansing operations to feed prisons and real estate gentrification. Consequently, another alternative is that HUD and related federal parties make sure that folks are free to take a % of the cash to finance these harrassment operations for a variety of purposes. Last but not least, there are the reasons that we discuss. Trigger behavior, kill, etc. These are things that I am learning more about thanks to so many wonderful people on this list. (God bless you!) Again, I would advise using Solari analytics to map out the money in your place. Who can make money doing this and why? How much can they make versus how much does it cost. That will show you risks and incentives for a variety of parties. If you know how all the money works in your community you can probably figure it out. We should have our website up in October if you are interested. www.solari.com. If you check out the Operation Safe Home performance reports on the HUD IG piece of the HUD Home Page and track what places and what activies they are doing, you may see some patterns that inform your research and who HUD may be playing with. All info on HUD appreciated. We intend to stop this silly business. We are sitting here doing the business plan for something called the Solari Militia. The idea is to use the law and markets to cut off and seize
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Louisiana high school tags students
-Caveat Lector- On 22 Sep 99, , Kathleen wrote: On a campus such as ours that is fairly open from all sides, we want to be able to identify our students. It would be very possible for students (from other schools) to come on campus and get among our students, and we would not be able to identify them until some time later. But with the badge, at a glance, we can see if they are ours or if they are not ours." Privacy issues aside, it seems to me that anyone who was serious about getting onto the "campus" could find a way to come up with a badge. Just as those who are determined can find ways to get illegal weapons. There's really no way to lock up the henhouse...unless, of course, all the places where people work, study, and gather are fortified--like prisons, with every single person checked at the sentry gate, coming and going. And even then sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] USGS Earthquake report
-Caveat Lector- On 21 Sep 99, , USGS wrote: Magnitude 7.6 earthquake near TAIWAN 23.81N, 121.00E depth 33.0km Mon Sep 20 17:47:18 1999 GMT An earthquake has occurred. Following is information provided by the National Earthquake Information Service of the USGS. This information is preliminary and subject to correction. Time: GMT Mon Sep 20 17:47:18 1999 (EDT Mon Sep 20 13:47:18 1999) (PDT Mon Sep 20 10:47:18 1999) Magnitude: 7.6, determined using its moment Epicenter: 23.81N, 121.00E (TAIWAN) Precision: A, where A is fine and D is coarse. Depth of focus: 33.0km below sea level at the epicenter. Note that the depth of focus is given as 33.0km, indicating that the depth was known to be shallow but could not be determined precisely. For a map showing this event, please consult the web page http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/990920174718.HTML Further info can be obtained from the USGS National Earthquake Information Center at http://wwwneic.cr.usgs.gov/ or the USGS home page at http://www.usgs.gov/ Well, it looks like they have solved the Taiwan problem, one way or another. This particular 7.6 is, I think, merely an "aftershock." sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [CIA-DRUGS] BUSH CAMP FINANCES CLINTON CAMPAIGN
-Original Message- From: Brian Downing Quig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 2:16 PM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] BUSH CAMP FINANCES CLINTON CAMPAIGN Bob, Clearly you have not seen my article BUSH CAMP FINANCES CLINTON CAMPAIGN http://www.dcia.com/campaign.html. The name of this game is collusion --- or TV illusion take your pick. The clear fact of the matter is that the SKULL AND BONES guys have managed both presidential nominees for more than a hundred years and are clearly doing so this election. Brian Downing Quig http://www.dcia.com/campaign.html BUSH CAMP FINANCES CLINTON CAMPAIGN by Brian Downing Quig Clearly the big winners in this year's presidential election are Bush, Clinton and Perot. These candidates could not be more identical. In fact, they are all backed by the same interests. It was quite impossible for any of these three to expose the others without also exposing themselves. They all shared intimate knowledge of involvement in guns for drug deals with the Contras and concealed interest in ushering in as quickly as possible the New World Order future for all mankind. It saddens me to note that for the most part the American public saw in this literal three-ring circus some possibility of choice. Granted, the clues of grand deception were sparse...nonetheless they were there. In the May issue of MER we revealed one Jackson Stevens, the largest investment banker in Arkansas and one of the largest bankers on Wall Street, as the single largest financial backer of the "Bill Clinton for President Campaign." Stevens arranged a $3.5 million line of credit for Clinton at a time when, absent this windfall, Clinton would have been out of the race. Two elements made this gift highly significant. First, Stevens was solidly in the Bush camp. Ten months earlier Stevens had contributed $100,000 to the George Bush For President Campaign, assuring his position in Bush's Team 100. In 1988, Mrs. Stevens served as co-chairman of the George Bush for President Committee! Certainly it looks bad for one fat cat to be such a big contributor to both front runners. The killer was the fact that it was Stevens who first introduced Hassan Abedi, the founder of BCCI, to Clark Clifford and Bert Lance. This introduction turned out to be the initial act in BCCI's attempt to illegally take over American banking through First American, Washington, D.C.'s largest bank. A congressional investigation of this weird configuration would have yielded the ugliest scandal in presidential history. But this major scandal went otherwise unreported - all through the many months of the campaigns. Until October ! On this date, Thomas Petzinger, Jr. in the Wall Street Journal, published a five-column front page lead article confirming all elements of our June article in MER. (His article did not include an interview with Bill Clinton as ours did.) The Wall Street Journal, although controlled by CFR and Trilateralists, employs the best writers in the country. Anyone reading the Journal and Scientific American can consider themselves fairly well-informed - that is, if they know how to read between the lines. J.P. Morgan determined that he would acquire the 25 most influential newspapers in the nation so that he could "control public opinion." The Wall Street Journal was one of his acquisitions and remains in the control of his heirs along with Forbes and Barrons. The Rockefeller interests control ABC, NBC, CBS, and Time-Life through Chase Manhattan. It provide the news. Amplifying the disgrace of the Jackson Stevens affair was a Frontline special airing the very next night entitled, "Who Finances Campaigns?" Here the public learned that in addition to the $3.5 million line of credit, Jackson Stevens took Clinton by the hand and introduced him to those who mattered on Wall Street and thereby raised an additional $750,000 for the Clinton campaign! Astute readers are probably saying to themselves that this is getting just as bad as possible, but wait! It gets much worse. There were other notables arranging money parties for Clinton, and one in particular who represented the dead center of the Bush camp was Pamela Harriman. Pamela Harriman is the widow of Averell Harriman, former CEO of the same Brown Brothers Harriman money ship where Prescott Bush was a partner! Pamela was backing the Clinton campaign from the very first day. Please recall that the treasury of the super influential Yale secret society, "Skull and Bones," was managed by Brown Brothers Harriman. Pamela Harriman was the wife of Winston Churchill's son, Randolf Churchill, when she first met Averell. While the German bombs pounded away on the other side of London, Averell created one of the world's most shocking sex scandals as he stole the Prime Minister's daughter-in-law virtually in plain sight - holding hands under the table at state dinners and the like. Averell was the number one American
