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Russia deploys bombers near Alaska

 Moscow has deployed several of its TU-95 bombers to bases in eastern
Siberia-within striking distance of Alaska, Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon
said Thursday. "We are monitoring it very closely," he said. "The Russians
do this from time to time."
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Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., acknowledges that the election cannot become "an
endless count."


Gore under pressure from both sides


Concern grows in his own camp
over sustaining election challenge


By Ceci Connolly and David S. Broder
THE WASHINGTON POST



Nov. 29 â  Vice President Gore pleaded again for patience from the American
public yesterday amid growing concern in his own camp over how long he can
sustain support for his unprecedented challenge of the Florida election
results.





 âThis is a search for an accurate count, but it cannot be an endless
count.â
â SEN. BYRON L. DORGAN
(D-N.D.)  IN THEIR PUBLIC statements, party leaders were still
backing Goreâs last-ditch push for the presidency. But privately many
Democrats-including Gore senior advisers-said he is running short on time.
   âThis is a search for an accurate count, but it cannot be an endless
count,â said Sen. Byron L. Dorgan (D-N.D.). âThere has to be a circumstance
here where one person congratulates the other.â


   As his lawyers raced from one courtroom to the next, Gore was being
buffeted by an array of pressures. Liberal activists who worked hard for his
campaign and dread a second Bush administration grow fiercer by the day in
saying that Gore must not surrender. Several planned news conferences,
rallies and e-mail blitzes for this week.

POLLS SHOW AMERICANS WEARYING
   Yet Sundayâs certification of the Florida vote and new polls showing a
majority of Americans tiring of the presidential saga have led many allies to
conclude that without some obvious boost in the coming days, it will be
difficult to hold the critical political middle.




   âThereâs an inherent fear that if we donât get a [court] victory,
theyâll not only soften but slide away,â said one chief strategist. âSo far,
surprisingly, nobody is defecting.â
   One critical event is the U.S. Supreme Court hearing Friday on Texas
Gov. George W. Bushâs claim that the Florida Supreme Court overstepped in
allowing the hand recounts to begin. âWe can hold politicians until the
Supreme Court rules,â one Gore adviser said. âAll bets are off after that.â
   And for the first time yesterday, some of the people close to Gore
began talking about his political prospects beyond 2001.

âHE IS MAKING BUSH STRONGERâ
   âThe biggest challenge for him is to hold on to the American people,
and he isnât,â said one informal adviser who cited a new poll showing 60
percent think Gore should concede. âBy the end of the week, it will be in the
seventies. At that point, he is making Bush stronger, and he in effect
destroys his ability toâ pursue the White House in 2004.
   Less than 12 hours after Goreâs nationally televised address Monday
night, his team was lobbying on several fronts. The vice presidential
nominee, Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.), worked the airwaves and telephones
as Democratic fundraisers issued an urgent request for more money to pay the
legal bills. At midday, Gore posed for pictures with Treasury Secretary
Lawrence H. Summers, painting a picture of a calm, understated transition.
   Most notably, he took questions from the media for the first time
since Oct. 29, relinquishing control of the agenda to a press corps he and
aides view as unsympathetic if not outright hostile. Reporters pressed him
for evidence that Republicans tried to intimidate Miami-Dade County
officials, and Gore said video of the incidents speaks for itself.
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 A campaign strategist, acknowledging that âwe need a sense of
momentum by the end of the week,â said Gore was likely to repeat his pitch
every day.
   âThere are no better advocates for their position than them,â senior
adviser Tom Nides said, referring to Gore and Liebermanâs personal
intervention. âThey feel passionately about this.â
   âThe question is, can they sustain the legal battle politically?â
said one congressional Democrat. âSo far they are, but in three or four more
days will it be sustainable?â

DEMOCRATS FLOODED WITH FEEDBACK
   Many Democratic offices on Capitol Hill reported being flooded with
messages urging Gore to end his legal challenges and concede. The Capitolâs
Internet server buckled under the crush of the burden, which an official said
was the heaviest since President Clintonâs impeachment days.
   Some said they believed conservative talk show hosts had encouraged
listeners to target Democratic senators up for reelection in 2002, because a
high percentage of the messages were from states other than their own. Others
said the calls were clearly coming from Republicans and sounded scripted.
   Sen. Tim Jo

[CTRL] Earley joins filing for Bush


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 Nov 29, 2000


Virginia Attorney General Mark L. Earley joined attorneys general from two
other states yesterday in filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court in
support of Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush.

The Bush campaign has asked the high court to reverse a decision by the
Florida Supreme Court that allows a manual recount of ballots in three
Florida counties. The U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments in the
case on Friday before making a decision.

Bush has a slight lead in Florida over Democrat Al Gore in the popular vote,
but Gore sought the recounts in an effort to overturn the Florida vote. He
claims that not all the votes have been counted. Whoever wins Florida's 25
electoral votes will win the presidency.

The friend of the court brief filed by Virginia, South Carolina and Nebraska
argues that if Gore electors are seated from Florida, their votes will
"effectively disenfranchise the states whose votes they wrongfully offset."

It also argues that allowing the Florida Supreme Court's decision to allow
the recounts to go unchecked would invite "similar - perhaps competing -
misconduct in future elections" and perhaps undermine confidence in the
outcome of the election.

The brief states that the Florida court's decision had the effect of
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Fla. Lawmakers OK Special Session

By DAVID ROYSE, Associated Press Writer

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - A committee of the Republican-controlled Florida
Legislature called on Thursday for lawmakers to meet in special session ``as
soon as practicable'' to consider appointment of a slate of electors in the
state's contested presidential election.

The vote came over the objections of Democrats, who said there should be no
interference in the election controversy.

No date was set, although the plan was for lawmakers to convene sometime
before Dec. 12, the day fixed in law for appointment of presidential electors.

The committee's action represented a key ingredient of George W. Bush (news -
web sites)'s plan to close out Al Gore (news - web sites)'s challenge for the
White House.

Even before the committee acted, Gore's lawyers filed papers in the U.S.
Supreme Court (news - web sites) challenging the right of the legislature to
intervene.

``What the hell is going on here? You know and I know it, this is not the
right thing to do,'' said Senate Minority Leader Tom Rossin.

But the new House speaker, Rep. Tom Feeney, is pressing forward.

``I don't believe there's an option at this point and I'm prepared to go,''
said Feeney, who along with the Senate president has the power to call a
special session. ``I'm standing on the playing field ready to put my helmet
on.''

The committee was expected to decide that the Legislature should name its own
slate of voters to the Electoral College (news - web sites).

``I can't believe that the people of Florida want to see the expression of
their will taken away by politicians,'' Gore told CNN. ``I think you'd see
quite a negative response to it.''

An ABC News-Washington Post poll released earlier this week found that by a
2-1 margin, Americans disapproved of Florida's Legislature getting involved
in determining the winner.

Republicans say the U.S. Constitution allows them to step in because the
legal wrangling over who won Florida could drag past the Dec. 12 deadline for
naming voters to the Electoral College, putting in jeopardy the state's
participation.

Democrats contend it's nothing more than a Bush campaign backup plan to
assure his electoral victory, even if Gore's legal challenges make him the
court-declared winner of the election.

Sen. John McKay, president of the Senate, has said it was a ``reasonable
conclusion'' that the Legislature would name its own slate of electors. But
he was moving cautiously.

``This is too important an issue to be taken lightly,'' he said. ``We're
going to give it the attention and the respect that it deserves.

McKay said he had not decided for sure whether a session was needed, and was
waiting for a report from the committee looking into the issue. ``If I didn't
wait for the report that would be hypocritical,'' he said.

If the state's 160 lawmakers - 102 of them Republicans - do name a slate of
25 electors pledged to Bush, it could put Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in an odd
position. He would be asked to sign off on a measure that could effectively
make his brother the president.

However, it was not clear whether the Legislature would have to pass a law
appointing electors, or could do so via a concurrent resolution that would
not require a gubernatorial signature. Roger Magnuson, majority council to
the state senate, said at a hearing Wednesday that he thought a concurrent
resolution would be the way to go.

Jeb Bush said it would be ``an act of courage'' for lawmakers to go into
special session and that he would sign legislation naming a separate slate of
electors ``if it was the appropriate thing to do.''

``I admire them for at least, on a contingency basis, accepting that
responsibility and duty,'' Bush said outside a Cabinet meeting. ``If there is
uncertainty, the Legislature has clear delegated authority from the U.S.
Constitution to seek the electors.''

But Bush added that he would bow to the U.S. Supreme Court if it ultimately
decided Gore won the election. ``If the U.S. Supreme Court disagrees with the
Florida Legislature, I think the United States Supreme Court trumps the
Legislature,'' the governor said.

A House Democratic leader said the ultimate decision on whether the
Legislature weighs in could end up coming from outside the Capitol.

``The shots are going to be called by the Bush campaign. If the Bush campaign
wants it to go, it'll go,'' Rep. Lois Frankel of West Palm Beach said.

McKay said he has relied on the opinions of legal scholars who say the
Legislature has the power under the Constitution to name electors if there is
a chance the state's voice will note be heard in the Electoral College.

``What I've heard so far is if all the contests are not concluded by the
12th, the Legislature has a responsibility to create a safety net,'' McKay
said. ``If that's our responsibility, that's our

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By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 30, 2000; Page A35



Two major U.S. military commands, one in the Air Force and the other in the
Army, recently warned their personnel that it is a crime for officers to
express contempt for the nation's political leaders, either in speech or in
e-mail correspondence.


Brig. Gen. Jack Rives, the top lawyer for the Air Force's Air Combat Command,
said he acted on Nov. 21 after reading in news stories comments from military
officers who were upset by Democratic Party challenges to military absentee
ballots cast in Florida. He sent out a message to people in his command,
which includes 89,000 troops at 17 major bases, telling them that "this is
not the time to send e-mails or otherwise get involved in an improper or
unprofessional manner with the continuing controversy over the presidential
election."


Col. James Rosenblatt, the staff judge advocate for the Army's Training and
Doctrine Command, said he decided to send out his own lengthier message after
seeing the Air Force message.


Citing "the swirling political process associated with the presidential
elections," Rosenblatt sent an e-mail reminding the command's generals and
lawyers that Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice forbids
military officers from using "contemptuous words against the President, Vice
President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military
department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature
of any state." (Rives noted that the article forbids officers from being
contemptuous of governors and legislatures only of states in which the
officers are physically on active duty.)


Rosenblatt, the top lawyer in his command, which has about 67,000 soldiers
and civilian employees at 15 major bases, concluded his message by suggesting
that the current situation may provide an opportunity for commanders to
conduct educational sessions "on the question of civilian control of the
military."


With 28 years of service in the Army, Rosenblatt said it was the first time
he ever felt it necessary to remind officers that it is against military law
to express contempt for political authorities. However, Rives noted that
parts of the military have issued similar reminders twice in the past decade
after military personnel publicly criticized President Clinton.


A violation of Article 88 can result in dismissal and one year's
imprisonment. But prosecutions under the article are rare, and Rives and
Rosenblatt said they weren't aware of any in recent decades.


Spokesmen for the Navy and Marine Corps said their services have not issued
similar warnings in recent days.




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|   IMC NEWS BLAST  |N30 anniversary edition   |

ANTI-GLOBALIZATION ONE YEAR LATER

With the anniversary of the Seattle WTO Ministerial protests just
a scant year ago, Independent Media Centers have put together
a collection of essays, photographs, videos, and audio from the
most tremendous year of activism in decades.

| Articles |

1. Do Not Forget Ideas are Also Weapons, by SUBCOMANDANTE MARCOS
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11239

2. Critique of globalization from a living systems point of view --
   http://www.ratical.org/LifeWeb/Articles/globalize.html

3. A chilling summary of increased state activity to neutralize
   anti-corporate-globalization activism.  "Keeping an eye on
   protesters International authorities are sharing information
   -- not all of it accurate -- about anti-globalization activists."
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11240

4. From Melbourne to Prague: The struggle for a deglobalized world
   by: Walden Bello
   Part 1: http://praha.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=1996
   Part 2: http://praha.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=1997

5. Capitalism and communism look equally bad in Prague,
   by Naomi Klein
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11242

6. "What's wrong with 'free' trade?; the GATS and Electronic
   Commerce -- by Sid Shniad -- Telecommunications is now seen as
   the modern trade route. Deregulated e-commerce has the potential
   to increase corporate power. Trade agreements make it difficult
   for citizens to exercise democratic control.
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11246

7. What's New at WTOWatch.org - lists a number of different
   wto-related stories with links to stories off site.
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11249

8. 'Become the Media', by Alex Kelly and Jason Gibson - a piece by
   australian journalists, looking at melbourne activism and the
   indymedia site.
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11250

9. The Body As a Weapon for Civil Disobedience,
   by Jesús Ramírez Cuevas
   http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11252

10. The African grassroots and the global movement, By Patrick Bond
http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11253

11. Reclaiming the Cities, By Cindy Milstein
http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=3035

12. Did We Fail as a Movement? by Chis Crews
http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=2903

13. GUATEMALA: Manifestacion en apoyo a los Medios de Comunicacion
Comunitaria
article: http://mexico.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=466
photo: http://mexico.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=467

14. Articles about Indymedia: quite a lot has been written
in the corporate press about various IMC's over the last
year. We've compiled a short list of some of the articles.
http://process.indymedia.org/articles_about_indymedia.php3

15. IMC-UK covered MayDay 2000, placing Public Terminal in the
middle of action, allowing participants to report for themselves
via two bycycle powered laptops conected to the web
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/newsite/index2.php3

16. The Zapatistas are preparing to break their long silence according
to
today's press release. A major press conference is planned for
Saturday
to respond to the new Fox PAN government
http://www.indymedia.org/display.php3?article_id=11990

| Audio|

Live streaming of N30 audio from:
http://www.microradio.net
http://www.blackballradio.com4
http://seattle.indymedia.org

1. The Streets of Seattle: Looking Back at N30
   A 30 minute sound collage that vividly documents the events
   of a year ago produced by Seattle IMC and Bruderhof Radio.
   MP3 http://clients.loudeye.com/imc/mayday/sea.imc_bruderhof.mp3
   realaudio http://clients.loudeye.com/imc/mayday/imc_bruderhof.ram

2. Noam Chosky on Colombia and Israel in an interview with
   Radio IMC - NYC
   http://www.nyc.indymedia.org/audio/nycradio.html

3. Audio witness of gas and grenades by Ted Lockery Dec 2 '99
   While reporting on non-violent protesters of the WTO linking
   arms to repel would-be looters, a reporter is caught in a barrage
   of tear gas and percussion grenades.
   http://clients.loudeye.com/i

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> Please copy and distribute to other interested individuals and groups
>
> **
>
> An interesting post below suggesting the widespread psychiatric drugging of
> children is catching intensive criticism from both ordinary parents and
> some politicians, in of all places, Texas.  Psychiatric diagnoses such as
> "Oppositional Defiance Disorder" really take the cake, and smack of
> ideology similar to a communist dictatorship ("hooliganism" was a crime
> carrying prison time in the old Soviet Union, and it could be used against
> any kind of behavior that upset the old guard.)  It is amazing that
> children who rightfully rebel against authoritarian parental and teacher
> sadism in the USA get this and similar "diagnoses" of "mental disorders",
> but we Americans are happy and cheer when we hear about students rebelling
> against communist dictators overseas.  If the Chinese dictators had Ritalin
> and our other psychiatric drugs, then they would never have to worry about
> any "student democracy movement", nor protests from their slave labor
> camps.  Hopefully, Americans are now getting aware how fast our culture is
> slipping down the same slope. The best advice to schoolkids is "Just Say No to
> All Drugs", and spit out the damn pills.
>
> James DeMeo
>
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> +
>
> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:18:58 -0800 (PST)
>
> - Forwarded message --
>
> RITALINREACTIONTEXAS   STYLE
> The best adverse reaction to RITALIN seen yet
>
> Not long after the massacre at Columbine School in Colorado the State Board
> of Education sent a memo to all teachers in the state suggesting they ease
> up a bit on breaking laws against practicing medicine without a license and
> intimidation.  It had been S.O.P. in Colorado and every other state, for
> teachers to pressure parents to have their kids tested to see which
> dangerous mind bending drug for ADD would SUB (subdue unwanted behavior)
> best.  Ritalin has been at the top of the charts for years.  It is now
> rapidly being replaced by Adderal, Concerta, Paxil, Prozac and other drugs
> even more harmful than Ritalin.  What was PT Barnums second most famous
> quote?  Never underestimate the stupidity of the American People.
>
> Texas is known for doing things bigger but this time they did it better.
> The State BOE passed a resolution November 2, 2000 that even Ranger Cordell
> Walker, Dr. Ron Paul, Zig Ziglar and Dr. John Breeding would gladly
> enforce.  After the 12 WHEREAS paragraphs the second resolved states :
> RESOLVED, That the State Board of Education encourage local boards and
> superintendents to require local school personnel to use proven academic
> and/or management solutions to resolve behavior, attention, and learning
> difficulties.  The State Board of Education suggests that programs such as
> tutoring, vision testing, phonics, nutritional guidance, medical
> examinations, allergy testing, standard disciplinary procedures, and other
> remedies known to be effective and harmless be recommended to parents as
> their options   I truly thank Rosie Collins
> Sorrells, Chase Untemeyer and all members of the Texas State Board of
> Education for taking a bold step.  I really think they "took the bull by
> the horns".  I sure wish to see Ohio and other states follow in their
> footsteps and together we can "arrest the psychiatric police"
>
> For More Information, including on the recent Texas decision, see:
>
> The Wildest Colts Make the Best Horses
> http://www.wildestcolts.com/
>
> and
>
> Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology
> http://www.breggin.com
>
>
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[CTRL] Fwd: Thompson Calls on Supremes to Nix Boies in Florida

2000-11-30 Thread Aleisha Saba





Thompson Calls on Supremes to Nix Boies in Florida
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=mb1075995

 Thursday, 30-Nov-00 12:45:01

  24.14.28.77 writes:

  With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

  For the story behind the story...


  Thursday November 30, 2000; 11:16 AM ET

  Thompson Calls on Supremes to Nix Boies in Florida

  The trial lawyer community, unwilling to offend the Democrats
  they depend on for so much business, has been largely silent on
  the ethical breaches of lead Gore attorney David Boies as the
  election crisis plays out in Florida.

  Not so NewsMax.com's Jack Thompson, an attorney who, unlike
  Boies, is licensed to practice in the Sunshine State.

  After filing a complaint Wednesday against Boies with several
  legal disciplinary committees in New York (the state where he
  actually is licensed to practice), Thompson is on the warpath
  again.

  Today he fired off this missive to the chief justice of the
  Florida Supreme Court:

  Dear Chief Justice Wells:

  As you know, New York attorney David Boies is not admitted to
  practice law in the State of Florida. He is doing so by special
  dispensation of this Court by means of his temporary pro hoc
  vice status. You must revoke that privilege.

  Why? On behalf of the Gore-Lieberman campaign, Mr. Boies put
  before you and the other six Justices an affidavit from a
  participant in Pullen v. Milligan, 561 NE2d 585 (Ill 1990),
  which has been proven false. Mr. Boies used that false affidavit
  to misrepresent to you all the ultimate resolution in Pullen.

  Additionally, aided by the false affidavit, Mr. Boies used
  dicta, or extraneous language, from the Pullen decision to make
  it appear as though "dimpled chads" were counted as votes, when
  in fact just the opposite was the result in Pullen.

  You cite prominently Pullen in your historic November 21 ruling.
  This ruling was relied upon by the Broward County canvassing
  board. You have been hoodwinked. The board was hoodwinked.
  America was hoodwinked.

  Let us be generous and assume Mr. Boies simply did not have the
  time or staff to research Pullen carefully. After all, his
  firm's web site (www.bsfllp.com) links to all the mainstream
  media's articles proving that he is the most brilliant lawyer in
  America, and surely such a lawyer was a victim in all this. A
  man of such reputation would not bend the truth for a client.

  Surely now, however, Mr. Boies knows the truth, now that the
  Chicago Tribune has proven that the affidavit upon which you
  relied is false and that the result in Pullen is the opposite of
  what Mr. Boies has told you.

  I have shared with Mr. Boies directly, in writing, his victim
  status in this regard, and I have pointed out to him his clear
  duty to come to you and admit the "mistake," upon which you all
  relied.

  Mr. Boies refuses to do so.

  Maybe his refusal is for lack of time. Mr. Boies was tied up in
  front of Leon County Circuit Court Judge Sauls insisting that
  the Judge sign an order on a ruling not yet rendered by Judge
  Sauls, so that Mr. Boies could appeal his non-decision to the
  Florida Supreme Court before there is even a hearing.

  Your Honor, I went to Vanderbilt Law School with Al Gore, and he
  dropped out before taking the mandatory third year course
  entitled "Legal Ethics," so he has an excuse for asking his
  lawyer to engage in the tactics that have made Mr. Boies a
  victim.

  But I would ask you to ask Mr. Boies what is his excuse for
  failing to admit to you all that you improperly relied upon
  Pullen.

  His mistake is no longer a mistake; it is now a calculation. He,
  by his knowing silence, has calculated that you seven Justices
  will not care that the most important judicial opinion of the
  year is based upon a lie.

  I respectfully ask the Florida Supreme Court to begin
  immediately, as you have the right to do, proceedings to revoke
  the pro hoc vice privilege of Mr. Boies to practice law without
  a license in our state, a state he has made the laughingstock of
  the world.

  In doing so, please afford Mr. Boies all the equal protection he
  has afforded the voters in our fair state who were foolish
  enough to live in Republican counties.

  By the way, today's NY Post reports that Mr. Boies is laboring
  under an ethics investigation in New York State, as he is
  presently accused of paying a fact witness to testify. You can
  read the story today at www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm on the
  Internet. A copy of the story is attached hereto.

  Please cleanse your ruling of its false foundation. Cleanse our
  state of Mr. Boies.

[CTRL] Skolnick-THE BREAKAWAY STATES IN AMERICA

2000-11-30 Thread William Shannon

THE BREAKAWAY STATES IN AMERICA
by Sherman H. Skolnick

In the beginning, this nation was referred to as the United States IN America. Somewhere along the way, this country came to be called the United States OF America. The American Civil War had something to do with it. So did the federal law in 1863 authorizing NATIONAL banks. Then there were the post-Civil War flip-flop decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court regarding Greenbacks, U.S. Currency. The U.S. Constitution took away from the States any right the inhabitants may have thought they had as independent states. For example, notice these provisions of the Constitution, Article I, Section 9 "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State. No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State be obliged to !
enter, clear, or pay Duties in another." More than whispers. Some are talking about the idea of an illegitimate CENTRAL GOVERNMENT in the United States. The consequence, so far, of the year 2000 Presidential Election is that one candidate won the plurality of the popular vote and the other claims to have won the Electoral Vote. Even those who are not conspiracy theorists have to recognize historical facts. The ruling elite in New York financed Leon Trotsky and the creation of the Soviet Union, in 1917, with V. Lenin and later, Josef Stalin. And following World War Two, the American aristocracy spread the anti-Soviet feeling in the U.S. with the Red Scare. it was a way of temporarily strengthening the U.S. central government and the perception of a "foreign enemy". All along, of course, the enemy of the ruling elite was actually the common folk of America. Among the cross-currents have been other events. Since at least the War of !
1812, Great Britain has vowed to overthrow the American central government and return this continent and its inhabitants to being British subjects in puppet colonies. The Brits fanned the flames of a natural and regional hostility between the South and the North, leading to the American Civil War. British ships ran the Union blockade, to bring weapons to the Confederacy. [After the war, a key official of the Confederacy fled to England and lived out his life there.] The Brits played a role in the political assassination of President Abraham Lincoln. In the 36 years after the War Between the States, as southerners call it, we had two presidents who greatly resisted British interference with the industrial and financial developments and aspirations of the U.S. One President, James Garfield, was assassinated with British connivance and falsely blamed on a lone assassin. The other, was President William McKinley, likewise so murd!
ered and blamed on a "lone nut". [I recognize that you may have read otherwise in your high school U.S. history textbook. And maybe relied on the falsely published accounts that a "lone assassin" killed President John F. Kennedy in 1963, his brother Bobby running for President in 1968, and their friend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., murdered as well in 1968.] By the late 1980s, the world government promoters, and their secret societies, set about to destroy their creature, the Soviet Union. They did this by attacking their government structure, fomenting natural, ethnic, and religious hostilities between the far-flung provinces. And by attacking their poorly designed banking system and currency. The Western press began calling the warring pieces of the Soviet Union, as breakaway provinces. These portions of the U.S.S.R. undermined the Central Government in Moscow, by refusing to forward taxes and fees that all along financed th!
e Soviet empire. The American CIA supplied modern weapons and financing to the opposition to the Soviets in their war against Afghanistan. The outcome, somewhat like the inglorious ending to the U.S. intervention in the Viet Nam civil war, resulted in great loss of confidence in the Central government. The result as war-losers, disgruntled, the soldiers of the Red Army at times have gone unpaid and live as vagabonds in tents. The British Monarchy, carrying out their anti-U.S. Constitution policies, have set about to effectively dismember, dismantle, and discredit the American Central Government in Washington. In the simplest explanation, William Rockefeller Clinton was chosen by the secret Bilderberg Group of world elitists to be president. As a then rather obscure southern governor, he was invited to be anointed at their 1991 meeting in Germany. A CIA darling since college age, he was put in 1992 as a massive fraud on the Americ!
an people, to run against his mentor, the former commissar of America's secret political police, George Herbert Walker Bush. They mutually agreed not to rattle each other's skeletons. Such as, Bush's Iran-Contra treason. Bush became vice president in 1980, by a secret traitorous meeting with the Iranians holding 52 U.S. Ame

[CTRL] Jeb And "Kat" Harris- How Close???

2000-11-30 Thread William Shannon

THE JEB AND KATHERINE HARRIS' AFFAIR AND CNN'S COVER-UP.  VOTERGATE IN GEORGIA.
VOTE TAMPERING IN GEORGIA AND A MEDIA COVER-UP IN FLORIDA?
By Bev Conover © Onlinejournal 11/29/00 http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Conover112900/conover112900.html
November 29, 2000 | In the ever-escalating revelations about Election 2000, two more potential bombshells for the Republicans turned up in our mailbox this morning: What appears to be vote tampering in Georgia and an effort by the media to cover up Florida Governor Jeb Bush's and Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris's alleged adulterous affair.
Apologies if this sounds like Drudge sludge, but, unlike the notorious Matt, we don't make this stuff up and the implications of a Jeb-Harris affair go beyond anything Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky did. The Florida governor, after all, is the brother of the Texas governor who has anointed himself president-elect thanks to Harris who certified him as the winner of Florida's 25 electoral votes. But first the Georgia incident in the words of our source: 
The machine they sent me to was not working properly.  That's the first time this has ever happened to me.  No matter how hard I punched, I couldn't get the needle to go through to make a hole at all (yet, curiously, there was a satisfying but erroneous sound as if the needle were going all the way through).  Then, imagine my surprise when I pulled out the only partially-punched ballot to check it, numbers against names, only to find that the machine had deftly misaligned my card so that I had voted for one person above each name I had actually intended, including that it made me vote for shrub for prez.  I was shocked beyond words!  I could NOT believe this had happened.  I immediately sought a new ballot, complained about the machine, and wondered what the hell was going on that they left an obviously defective machine in place all day like that...  The poll workers said that our poll had long lines all day; and that this machine had been "working fine all day -- as far as [they] knew." I've voted all over the country, never missed a chance once ever since I was legal to vote, and I'm 50 now -- such an odd thing has never happened.  Then, the poll workers said, no problem, they would tell people "'not to use the machine, that it indeed was broken."  Ah, but they did nothing to take it out of action (they did not move it back, cover it, put a sign on it, nothing).  It stayed right there in the middle of the other machines, obviously to be left in full use.  I felt powerless to do anything more about it.  The poll was rather busy and confused, so I took some names, as this distressed me. And as I left the poll, I had an eerie feeling.  I was quite struck by the whole thing in a very funny way (intuition?).  This was still election day (late afternoon), before all the other stories started pouring in.  You can imagine how I felt when I heard what had happened to others.  Do I believe there was a concerted effort to have some machines rigged so that the ballot goes askew, making you vote for the wrong candidate (such as Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan in [Palm Beach County] Florida)?  You bet.  Not a doubt in my mind that all of this cannot possibly be 'coincidence,' or old and imperfect machines, or confused people, or anything regular at all.  Not a doubt in my mind. 



An isolated incident? Coincidence? Either seems a stretch in view of what we know happened in Florida. The corporatist major media, though, are playing deaf, dumb and blind about what went on in other states, while letting every Republican hack repeat the lie ad nauseum how the Florida vote was counted, recounted and counted again – that is, when the media aren't beating the Bush drum to force Al Gore into conceding. 
Little by little, it's all seeping out. Florida. Texas. Georgia. Tennessee… 
The Tennessee Tribune reported: 

African-American voters in Nashville cited missing pages in books at Gra-Mar Elementary voting precinct.  African-Americans in Chattanooga, Brownsville, and Maury County reportedly went to vote at familiar spots, then found that suddenly these locations were no longer designated voting sites.  Some voters in Memphis have signed and submitted affidavits saying that they were turned away despite having proper credentials, and that rosters were being purged of eligible voters.  Memphis has also reportedly been one location where voters who participated in the motor-voter registration program were not allowed to vote either if they didn't know their particular precinct or their names couldn't be found on the list. 
There are also several reports of mistreatment involving students in Nashville and Wilson County.  Some student voters in Wilson County charged they were told to either remove NAACP signs from their vehicles or move their vans from the premises.  Nashville students assert they were denied the chance to vote although they were registered. 
Some voters have e

[CTRL] Kaffee Klatsch

2000-11-30 Thread PM Kansan1225

  Supermodel/actress Heidi Klum is really getting into her new
movie role as my West Coast associate Miss Jildau Van Nuys for
the upcoming major motion picture "Fight all CLuMs and especially
P. & U.K.E.", based on my latest book.

Heidi was in Los Angeles recently meeting with Jildau and Mrs.
Milagros Margolis at Milagros' house in Azusa.  After savoring
Mrs. M's chicken paprikosh with fried bananas, Heidi exclaimed:

"It's divine, it's simply miraculous!  I am sorry I can not have
any more, ve models must alvays vatch our figures."

Milagros Margolis:  "But, Heidi darling, you are so skinny,
have just a bit more."

H.K.:  "I have to verk very hard to keep like zis.  Exercise,
exercise all ze time."

Jildau Van Nuys:  "At least have some more of this heavenly
coffee.  What kind of exercise works best for you?"

H.K.:  "I have a regular regime and pay close attention to my
butt, my problem area.  It never ends.  Even ven I am in line at ze
movies, I sqveeze my cheeks, one at a time, or bos at ze same time.
Try it, it verks."

J.V.N.:  "But aren't you afraid that some of your fans in the line
may get overly excited by all these movements?"

H.K.:  "I get Ric, my husband, to cover me from behind."

M.M.:  "Well, all this hard work is paying off for you."

H.K.:  "Yes, and now I am getting more acting offers.  I am
really glad to be part of ze 'CLuM' movie.  By ze vay did you hear
vat zat creep, Captain Zodiac, vas spoonfeeding to Rhonda
Schlepper ze ozzer night?"

M.M.:  "It's all to be expected.  What I say is that if
Kansan1225 has Interpol, British Intelligence, the KBI, the FBI, the
KGB, and the MPD, all of them badmouthing him, he must be
doing something right."

J.V.N.:  "I was half expecting Zodiac to say that since Kansan
was a graduate student at a world-famous Institute here in Southern
California in the 1970s, he may have been responsible for slipping
the 'Face on Mars' photograph in the data stream coming back from
Viking 1 back in July 1976."

M.M.:  "That's right.  Kansan1225 may be responsible for the
AIDS epidemic, the Oklahoma City bombing, the attack on the
USS Cole, and Richard Hoagland."

H.K.:   "Ven I first became avare of Kansan, I sought he vas a
stalker veirdo.  Soon I realized he vas dschust a harmless little
shlemiel drooling over my photographs on ze Internet.  But vat an
intellect!"

J.V.N.:  "Yes, he is a great kidder, too."

H.K.:  "He keeps making fun of my accent.  Look who's
talking, zat hillbilly."

M.M.:  "We all have our little peculiarities.  Sometimes Kansan
reminds me of St. Anthony the Great, fighting off temptations in the
desert."

J.V.N.:  "What amazes me is how people, who see the clear
evidence of his truth, can be so blind."

H.K.:  "It is not zat surprising.  Remember ze generation zat
lived vit Jesus;  zey saw ze miracles, but most of zem did not
believe.  After all, es ist geschrieben, 'if zey hear not Moses and ze
prophets, neizzer vill zey be persuaded, zough one rose from ze
dead', Luke, chapter 16, verse 31.  Zat adulterous dscheneration
saw ze miracles, saw Jesus rising from ze dead, and still most of
zem did not believe."

J.V.N.  "Some people think that predicting the day of a terrorist
attack is as simple as predicting the outcome of a Presidential
election."

H.K.:  "Vell, let's look into zat."  Heidi reached into her
handbag and her long fingers pulled out her crimson lipstick.  She
wrote this formula on a napkin:

Information = - log (Probability)

H.K.:  "Ze value of ze information is inverse to ze probability of
ze outcome predicted.  In a Presidential election each outcome has
about a 50% probability.  Zerefore, if ve calculate ve get
Information = - log (0.50) = 0.3."  She said these words while
furiously pounding the keys of her calculator.  "Predicting an attack
for a particular day of a 30-day month has an information value of
-log ( 1/30 ) = 1.5.  You see, ze second kind of prediction is about
five times more informative."

M.M.  "Wow, Heidi querida, reading 'Contemporary
Indications of a Conspiracy' has really broadened your mind."

H.K.:  "I am really looking forvard to ze December issue,
especially ze section on ze Eleusinian Mysteries."

J.V.N.:  "Ah, Heidi, you're so vain.  You probably think that
section is all about you."

Re: [CTRL] Judicial Watch Because no one is above the law!

2000-11-30 Thread William Shannon

Judicial Watch is now looking out for us?? LMFAO!!! OK, I'll sleep tight tonight knowing that these fair-minded bastions of  non-partisanship are looking out for us...
Anyone got any Seconal???

Bill.

[CTRL] UPI: Pentagon rolls back anthrax program again


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http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=140237


Thursday, 30 November 2000 17:23 (ET)

Pentagon rolls back anthrax program again

By PAMELA HESS


 WASHINGTON, Nov. 30 (UPI) - With diminishing supplies and a
year-long delay in a new production facility, the Defense
Department has suspended anthrax immunization shots for soldiers
in Korea, according to spokesman Ken Bacon.

 Now only those soldiers deploying to areas around Iraq for more
than 30 days will receive the controversial inoculation. The move
saves about 12,500 doses of anthrax vaccine a month which will
help stretch the remaining supply over the next year, according
to Bacon.

 There are only about 60,000 approved doses left, according to
Bacon -- just enough to vaccinate the 5,000 service members that
deploy to southwest Asia.

 Only one company in the nation, BioPort of Lansing, Mich.,
produces the vaccine. But its new laboratory -- built with
Defense Department money -- has failed repeatedly to win Food and
Drug Administration approval. In November 1999 the FDA found more
than 30 shortcomings at the production facility.

 "We had hoped they'd be up and running by about this time,"
Bacon said at a Pentagon news conference.

 Bacon said BioPort could be approved by next fall or winter. In
the meantime, the Pentagon is taking measures to conserve what
doses it has left, reserving them for the area believed to pose
the most threat of biological weapons.

 In April of this year, the Pentagon awarded the troubled
manufacturer $12 million to help its new laboratory pass FDA
inspection. That money came on top of the $40 million it gave
BioPort to bail the company out of financial trouble last fall.

 As of September, there were 100,000 doses of anthrax vaccine
remaining. That number has dwindled to about 60,000. If used at a
rate of 5,000 doses a month, the supply could be made to last
another year.

 This is not the first time the Pentagon has had to limit the
program because of production delays. In July, Defense Secretary
William Cohen limited the immunization only to those deploying to
areas around Iraq and North Korea. Until then the immunization
had been compulsory for all service members.

 Almost half a million service members began the six-shot series;
Bacon said it is unclear whether they will have to repeat the
entire series once the vaccine becomes available.

 Roughly 350 service members have refused to take the shot
because of health concerns. Many of them have been discharged
from the military.

 In February, the Pentagon categorically rejected a call from the
House Governmental Affairs subcommittee on national security to
suspend its mandatory anthrax immunization program. Rep.
Christopher Shays, R-Conn., subcommittee chairman, had released a
report calling for the program to be halted until the effects of
the vaccine are more closely studied.

 About 10 countries, including Iraq and North Korea, are believed to have
"weaponized" anthrax, and more are working on developing Anthrax-based
weapons. The anthrax spore is a stable one. It can be used as an aerosol and
still maintain its lethality.


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[CTRL] JFK: the assassin who failed

2000-11-30 Thread Kelly


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(fwd from daev's blather-talk list)

http://www.newstatesman.com
JFK: the assassin who failed

by Philip Kerr
27th November 2000


Lee Harvey Oswald had a predecessor: a man who plotted
to kill Kennedy three years before Dallas. Philip Kerr
unearthed the story

Wednesday 22 November 2000 marked the 37th anniversary
of the death of John F Kennedy. This year, the anniversary
has been largely overshadowed by electoral events in
Florida, just as last year it was overshadowed by the death
in an air crash in July 1999 of his son, John F Kennedy Jr.

Although I was only seven at the time, my own memory of
that fateful Friday night is quite clear - and amusingly
mundane: the BBC had blacked out the Harry Worth show
as a mark of respect, a course of action that, to my young
mind, seemed quite out of proportion to something that had
happened in a place as far away as Dallas, Texas.

As I grew older, however, I started to become fascinated
with the assassination - and when I started writing novels, I
wondered how I might write a novel about it. I decided it
would be about a fictional attempt to kill JFK at some time
before 22 November 1963. There would be no Lee Harvey
Oswald, no Jack Ruby, no Dallas, not even a grassy knoll -
just a lone assassin, with a nod to Frederick Forsyth's
Jackal, bent on killing Kennedy in the earliest days of his
presidency. It would be called The Shot.

Incredibly, in the course of my meticulous research, I
discovered that there had been a real attempt to kill
Kennedy as early as December 1960; and that, but for John
Jr, JFK would have been assassinated before he was even
inaugurated. I discovered that even well-informed
Americans older than myself did not seem to know about
this.

This is the story of the first attempt to kill President-elect
John F Kennedy.

JFK won the 1960 election, defeating Richard Nixon by the
slenderest of majorities. Later on, Kennedy told a friend, the
journalist Ben Bradlee, that the election had cost his hugely
rich father, Joe, $13m - about $100m in today's money. Joe
Kennedy is best remembered as being the US ambassador
to Britain at the beginning of the Second World War. What
is less well known is that Joe, a former bootlegger, was
closely connected to the world of organised crime. Cardinal
Francis Spellman of New York once described him as "a
truly evil man". Joe would have liked to have been
president himself. But he had too many skeletons in his
closet. And there were too many others who shared
Spellman's low opinion of him.

One such man was Richard P Pavlick, a 73-year-old retired
postal worker from Belmont, New Hampshire, who had a
history of psychiatric problems. His neighbours, however,
mostly saw him as somewhat vocal at town meetings and
something of a local eccentric. He was also a prolific writer
of letters to the newspapers; and his favourite subject was
that Joe Kennedy was trying to buy the presidency for his
son. There was nothing Pavlick could do to prevent
Kennedy being elected, but he decided he could stop him
from ever being inaugurated as America's 35th president.

It is a peculiarity of American politics that an incumbent
president does not assume the office, nor occupy the
White House, until he has been inaugurated about ten
weeks later. Kennedy had won the election on 9 November
1960, but he would not be safely in the White House until
after 20 January 1961. The young president-elect spent the
intervening period at various Kennedy family homes in
New York, Georgetown, Hyannis Port and Palm Beach in
Florida, putting together his Cabinet.

In planning The Shot, I visited all of these properties,
equipped with a rifle-scope, to consider their fictional
feasibility as potential assassination sites, in the knowledge
that Pavlick had done the same. Finally, he decided that
Palm Beach provided him with the best opportunity, not
least because Kennedy was there so much. Kennedy
worshipped the sun, not to mention the local ladies, who
dubbed him "Mattress Jack" for obvious reasons. So JFK
enjoyed the last weeks of 1960 at 1095 North Ocean
Boulevard in Palm Beach, sunning himself, swimming,
playing golf, offering people jobs in his administration and
sneaking out of the house under Jackie's nose to get laid in
a private suite at the nearby Breakers Hotel.

The house was called La Guerida when Joe Kennedy
bought it for $100,000 back in the early 1930s. From the
road, there is very little to see - just an archway with a
heavy oak door in a big white wall and, beyond, the glimpse
of a white stucco corner and a red tile roof amid a whole
plantation of wind-bent palm trees.

The house looks as private as a camera-shy clam. From the
ocean side, it's a different story, and the house - swiftly
dubbed the "Winter White House" - can be seen for what it
is, if the local coastguards let you linger long enough. Even
today, they are a constant security feature around the
property. The 100ft-long,

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Table of Contents
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[1] Senate Judiciary Committee Presses FBI on Carnivore
[2] Court Protects Anonymity of "John Doe" Posters
[3] Council of Europe Releases Revised Cyber-Crime Proposal
[4] Supreme Court Issues Decision on Indiana Police Roadblocks
[5] ICANN Selects Seven New Top-Level Domains
[6] U.S. Courts Seek Comment on Privacy of Court Documents
[7] EPIC Bookstore - The Consumer Law Sourcebook 2000
[8] Upcoming Conferences and Events

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[1] Senate Judiciary Committee Presses FBI on Carnivore
===

Citing an internal FBI document released to EPIC through a Freedom of
Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, the Senate Judiciary Committee has
asked the Bureau to provide additional information on the capabilities
of the Carnivore Internet surveillance system.  The document, obtained
by EPIC on November 16, reports the results of an FBI test showing
that Carnivore "could reliably capture and archive all unfiltered
traffic" transmitted through an Internet service provider and store
the communications on a hard drive or removable disks.

In a November 21 letter to FBI Director Louis Freeh, Committee
Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and ranking member Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
ask the Bureau to "explain why Carnivore was tested to determine if it
was capable of intercepting and archiving unfiltered traffic through
an ISP, whether Carnivore in fact has that capability, and under what
circumstances it could ever be legitimately used to draw on that
capability."  They also request "complete and unredacted copies of the
documents produced thus far in response to the FOIA lawsuit together
with any other documents related to Carnivore's capability to
intercept and archive unfiltered traffic."  The FBI's public defense
of Carnivore has centered on the claim that the system only captures
traffic that has been isolated by a software filter that "minimizes"
collection and limits it to the particular information authorized for
seizure in a court order.

Hatch and Leahy told Freeh that "[s]kepticism about Carnivore is based
precisely on concerns about this program's capability and whether this
capability would be exploited to do more than just intercept narrowly
targeted pieces of information."

In other developments, an independent technical review of Carnivore
released on November 21 found that FBI agents operating the system can
inadvertently collect more private communications than permitted by
law, underscoring the potential dangers of the invasive technology.
The reviewers also reported that they "did not find adequate
provisions (e.g. audit trails) for establishing individual
accountability for actions taken during use of Carnivore."  The report
was produced by a review team from the Illinois Institute of
Technology and was sanitized for release by Justice Department
officials.  The Department has set a deadline of December 1 for the
submission of public comments on the technical review.

Selected Carnivore documents released as part of EPIC's FOIA lawsuit
are available at:

  http://www.epic.org/privacy/carnivore/foia_documents.html

The Carnivore review report is available at:

  http://www.usdoj.gov/jmd/publications/carniv_entry.htm

===
[2] Court Protects Anonymity of "John Doe" Posters
===

In a significant decision concerning anonymity on the Internet, a New
Jersey state court judge has ruled that a software company is not
entitled to learn the identities of two "John Doe" defendants who
anonymously posted critical comments on a Yahoo message board.  It is
the first known judicial decision denying the identification of such
defendants.

In a

[CTRL] RadTimes # 119


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RadTimes # 119 November, 2000

An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities.

"We're living in rad times!"
---
QUOTE:
" We understand that true liberty is not a matter of changing kings or
rulers. We know that the whole system of master and slave must go, that the
entire social scheme is wrong, that government and compulsion must be
abolished, that the very foundations of authority and monopoly must be
uprooted."
--Alexander Berkman, 'What Is Communist Anarchism'
---
How to assist RadTimes--> (See ** at end.)
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Contents:
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--Call For a United Revolutionary Presence at the Presidential Inauguration
--Mob Rule Wins for W
--When the government caves in to mob rule
--Election problem for big business
--Lessons from the Miami-Dade Rebellion
Linked stories:
*Democrats, liberals retreat in the face of Republican provocations
*The Napster Master Plan
*There's an antidote to this family feud: secession
*Carnivore review called 'whitewash'
*Dems' tactics create cynicism in the heartland
*Bitter fruit from seeds of hate [US war crimes]
*Legitimacy
*Bush supporters rally schedule
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Begin stories:
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Call For a United Revolutionary Presence at the Presidential Inauguration

WE ALREADY KNOW WHO WON CAPITALISM AND THE RULING CLASS

Take to the Streets of Washington Against Capitalism, Against the State, and
Against the Death Machine of Globalization

FOR CLASS WAR AND A CLASSLESS, STATELESS SOCIETY

On Saturday, January 20th, 2001 thousands of people
from all over the United States will converge on the
streets of Washington, D.C to protest against the
dictatorship of the corporate class, the circus of US
representative "democracy", and the international
death machine that is the US government.

 The demonstration in Washington the day of the
presidential inauguration is a great opportunity to
demonstrate our opposition, not only to whomever it is
that may eventually win the presidency, but to the
entire state system, from the dictatorship of capital,
to the sham of representative democracy, by making
Washington ours during inauguration day and disrupting
the ceremony of the ruling class. In the spirit of
the mobilizations of the past year, from Seattle, to
Washington, to Cincinnati, and everywhere in between,
we are calling for revolutionaries to stand together
as a bloc and refuse to serve as mere numbers for
reformist and authoritarian organizations that don't
represent our desires, aims, or aspirations.  Instead,
we propose a demonstration that not only highlights
our opposition to the present order, but also puts
forth revolutionary anti-authoritarian alternatives.

 Therefore, we are calling for anti-authoritarian
revolutionaries to bring their banners and flags, be
they black, red, red and black, black and green, or
whatever else and gather in Washington at 10 am on
Saturday, January 20th, 2001* under the slogan "Class
War Now...For a Classless, Stateless Society." We are
not calling for any particular tactics, simply for
revolutionary anti-authoritarians to come prepared to
march on the Presidential Inauguration and for a
festival of resistance, struggle, and revolutionary
alternatives to the capitalist system.

 It will take a lot of work to make this mobilization
a success and a show of force for the North American
revolutionary movement.  If you wish to help make the
January 20th initiative succeed, spread the word,
organize caravans to Washington, copy and distribute
this call,  make banners and flags, keep in touch as
details of the mobilization become available, contact
us to endorse the call, and come to Washington on
January 20th ready for a festival of resistance.

The Barricada Collective <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sabate Anarchist Collective (NEFAC)

*Location to be announced

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Mob Rule Wins for W



November 24, 2000

Texas Gov. George W. Bush appears to have sealed his claim to the White
House through a premeditated mob action that influenced the Dade County
decision to halt a crucial recount.
Egged on by Republican phone banks and heated rhetoric over Cuban-American
radio, a pro-Bush mob of about 150 people descended on the Dade County
canvassing board Wednesday as it was preparing to evaluate 10,750 disputed
bal

[CTRL] Call For a United Revolutionary Bloc at the Presidential Inauguration

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Inauguration
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:53:17 -0500 (EST)

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 http://www.ainfos.ca/

A Call For a United Revolutionary Presence at the Presidential
Inauguration...
WE ALREADY KNOW WHO WON CAPITALISM AND THE RULING CLASS

Take to the Streets of Washington Against Capitalism, Against the State, and
Against the Death Machine of Globalization

FOR CLASS WAR AND A CLASSLESS, STATELESS SOCIETY

On Saturday, January 20th, 2001 thousands of people
from all over the United States will converge on the
streets of Washington, D.C to protest against the
dictatorship of the corporate class, the circus of US
representative democracy, and the international
death machine that is the US government.

 The demonstration in Washington the day of the
presidential inauguration is a great opportunity to
demonstrate our opposition, not only to whoever it is
that may eventually win the presidency, but to the
entire state system, from the dictatorship of capital,
to the sham of representative democracy by making
Washington ours during inauguration day and disrupting
the ceremony of the ruling class.  In the spirit of
the mobilizations of the past year, from Seattle, to
Washington, to Cincinnati, and everywhere in between,
we are calling for revolutionaries to stand together
as a bloc and refuse to serve as mere numbers for
reformist and authoritarian organizations that dont
represent our desires, aims, or aspirations.  Instead,
we propose a demonstration that not only highlights
our opposition to the present order, but also puts
forth revolutionary anti-authoritarian alternatives.

 Therefore, we are calling for anti-authoritarian
revolutionaries to bring their banners and flags, be
they black, red, red and black, black and green, or
whatever else and gather in Washington at 10 am on
Saturday, January 20th, 2001* under the slogan Class
War Now...For a Classless, Stateless Society. We are
not calling for any particular tactics, simply for
revolutionary anti-authoritarians to come prepared to
march on the Presidential Inauguration and for a
festival of resistance, struggle, and revolutionary
alternatives to the capitalist system.

 It will take a lot of work to make this mobilization
a success and a show of force for the North American
revolutionary movement.  If you wish to help make the
January 20th initiative succeed , spread the word,
organize caravans to Washington, copy and distribute
this call,  make banners and flags, keep in touch as
details of the mobilization become available, contact
us to endorse the call, and come to Washington on
January 20th ready for a festival of resistance.

The Barricada Collective
Sabate Anarchist Collective (NEFAC)

*Location to be announced
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[CTRL] Al (Gagme) Gore (fwd)

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Subject: Al (Gagme) Gore

Al Gore in his book "Earth In The Balance," writes:

"Refusing to accept the Earth as our Sacred Mother, these Christians
have become a dangerous threat to the survival of humanity."

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"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as
sacred as the law of God, and that there is not a force of law and
public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence." -- John
Adams

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  This is an interesting speculation. .
In fact one a 'beat cop and I hadia
lively discussion over back in
89.

   John Vincent to his credit has shined the light of  day
on the activities of  the drug vigilante cults that operate
across this grand continent.  Let me tell you
a story in that vain and also  related to abemarf  speculation.

  Well way back then. There was a guy on the block
in downtown brooklyn,  who was considered different
because he was a 'bro' who wore a suit, and talked without
an accent(even ole joe here has a trace of an exotic combo
chicago/arkansas brogue) and kept to himself and his ole
lady(wife I assume)

The precinct was the 84th. Well one day the young man was
alledgedly  making runs from his apartment every 45 minutes and
going to the 'drug' cop spot(timeframe 1:00am) .In these pre-wide
-spread electronic MC mayhem, some of the local yokels bashed
the poor guy upside his head with a bat. They didn't take his money.
They just didn't approve of his lifestyle.

After all he probably wasted as much on drugs that night than they
had to live on for the week. A classic case of  the non-platonic form of
envy.

 I talked to him(the victim) after it happened he was scared. Most of the
locals
knew who did it. but no one said anything.

   A note on the nabe, Some of these local claimed and it was verified by
others,
that they ran  Billy Crystall out of the hood. Because they didn't like him
way
back when. Since I don't want to be controversial I will say it was classic
case
ant-semitism.

   Maybe I could have helped him (the accountant not Billy Crystal),
but I had a problem with him because he was a bean counter and
I worked the systems side of  the fence and I just got a thing about
people who check figures (numbers). and quite honestly I could
not afford his kind of friendship.


   Well the  guy recovered and went back to work. Later though
as the economy went into  a slump, the guy lost his gig. His job was
taken over by an accounting software package.  But he still had the bucks.


  By this time the local 'crackbusters'  had evolved into the lucid
dream hustlers. Some folks called them 'The Midnight Cabaleros'.

 Finally Rockefeller Center started hiring a lot of these locals
(humanitarian hiring programs) and in that spirit they started borrowing
 a lot of   gizmos(NDTE)  from the gig, bringing  this suff into
apt buildings where they suspected 'crack dens'  to be set up.
This included pot smokers, who were now redefined as crack heads.
 .
Finally both he and his wife started  catching heavyweight hell. Let's
face it  she is sleeping next to hinm  in the same bed.

   Later they guy grew so frighted he slept with a bat under the mattress
Well one night, right after a session with the guys who  took freud's
statement
'visit them in the night'  very seriously. The  lucid dream, these  'night
riders of
the new age' put on the ole boy woke him up in a rage, and as you would have
it, he thought his wife's head was either a raging beast or a softball, and
he killed her.

   People in that building new exactly what had occured. The local beat cops
were up on these 'therapy by night' sessions, and no one said a thing. The
guy
took a murder rap.  I believe he was out of prison by  the middle of Billy
Clinton's
first term.

  The local  'good guy therapist knew about this crap.  They just stood in
awe when
it was being used without a death. Then when his wife was killed they
scampered into
woodworks and claimed they new nothing and let ole Leeroy take the fall..




 A local paper the Fort Green e  Digest ran this story. It was called


THE SECRET REHAB


  This one I know about first hand

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[CTRL] Luna cut - photos, video and press

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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:39:28 -0800
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Photos of Luna's cut:  http://earthfilms.org/luna.html

32" deep cut, sliced 19 feet around the circumference of the tree.
Sanctuary Forest expects that Luna may fall in the next big storm, which is
due to hit the area tomorrow. They are going to make some effort to
shore-up Luna. It's doubtful the tree will be able to withstand 100 mph
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:12:28 -0800
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Subject: SRPD: Vandals slash Julia Hill redwood

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/local/news/28tree_a1empirea.html

Vandals slash Julia Hill redwood

Chain saw left 19-foot gash in ancient tree famed for activist's 738-day
sit-in

November 28, 2000

By MIKE GENIELLA
THE PRESS DEMOCRAT

HUMBOLDT COUNTY

Chain saw-wielding vandals have sliced a gaping wound into the ancient
redwood tree that was saved from logging after environmental activist Julia
Butterfly Hill lived among its branches for 738 days.

The attack was discovered by environmentalists over the long Thanksgiving
weekend, and is believed to have occurred recently, judging from fresh
sawdust found surrounding the tree.

After inspecting the damaged tree Monday, investigators for the Humboldt
County Sheriff's Department said those responsible, if apprehended, could
face felony vandalism charges. "We are treating this as a serious crime,"
said sheriff's spokeswoman Melba Paris.

A team of forestry experts today will attempt to determine whether the
tree, estimated to be between 600 and 1,000 years old and measuring 38 feet
in circumference, can survive the assault. On Monday, authorities
determined that a chain saw had been used to cleanly slice a 32-inch deep
arc reaching 19 feet around the old tree's base.

Despite the assault, there was optimism Monday that the tree Hill and her
supporters call "Luna" may survive. The giant redwood is located in
southern Humboldt County on a ridge top overlooking Highway 101 and the Eel
River hamlet of Stafford.

"We believe the tree will live if we can find a way to protect it from
winter winds," said Rondall Snodgrass, a representative of a Humboldt
County land trust that actually owns the tree and a surrounding two-acre
buffer zone. Because redwood trees of any age are shallow-rooted, they are
vulnerable to being blown down during fierce winter storms that buffet the
North Coast.

Pacific Lumber Co. had planned to cut the tree before Hill climbed up its
trunk on a moonlit night in 1997, starting what would become the longest
tree protest in history. Now the company has pledged to provide ground
equipment and technical assistance if the team of experts today concur on a
plan to keep the tree alive.

"I think the company is as shocked and horrified as we are about what's
happened," said Snodgrass.

Pacific Lumber spokeswoman Mary Bullwinkel said Snodgrass' assessment is
accurate.

"We're cooperating in any way we can," she said. "We're very sorry this has
happened."

Hill, who was in seclusion Monday in Florida where she spent the long
Thanksgiving holiday with family, was described by supporters as
"devastated."

"Luna is the greatest teacher and best friend I have ever had," she said in
a prepared statement. "I gave two years of my life to ensure that she could
live and die naturally. I feel this vicious attack on Luna as surely as if
the chain saw was going through me."

Hill climbed down the tree a year ago to become an international
environmental celebrity after striking a deal in December 1999 with Pacific
Lumber to put the redwood off-limits to company loggers. Hill and her
supporters made a $50,000 contribution to Humboldt State University's
forestry department on Pacific Lumber's behalf in return for a covenant
protecting the tree and a surrounding two-acre buffer

[CTRL] RadTimes # 118


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RadTimes # 118 November, 2000

An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities.

"We're living in rad times!"
---
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"In the larger life of society, the people are made to submit to the orders
of those who were originally meant to serve them--the government and its
agents. Once you do that, the power you have delegated will be used against
you and your interests every time. And then you complain that your leaders
"misuse their power." No, my friend, they don't misuse it; they only use
it, for it is the *use* of power which is itself the worst misuse."
--Alexander Berkman, 'What Is Communist Anarchism?'
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How to assist RadTimes--> (See ** at end.)
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Contents:
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--Free Speech In America -- If You Dare?
--The Republican right prepares for violence
--Vote of No Confidence [how to steal elections]
Linked stories:
*The US election crisis: why is Ralph Nader silent?
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Begin stories:
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Free Speech In America -- If You Dare?

From: Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In Military Style--Police NOW SWEEP America's streets and buildings for
law--abiding protestors: Increasingly, police interrogate and arrest
citizens who police believe are planning to attend demonstrations. Is it
now, Free Speech In America--If You Dare?

How Far Can Law Enforcement Go--TO CRUSH POLITICAL DISSENT? During the
2000 Republican Convention in Philadelphia, Police Squads arrested on
streets and private property, law--abiding protestors, bystanders and
tourists--to prevent them from attending demonstrations. LAPD on
10--22--00 used clubs and rubber bullets, to attack and run off
lawful--demonstrators supporting the (October 22nd Coalition) PROTEST
against--police brutality. The coalition had secured a city permit for the
demonstration. In American, police now--arrest, jail, and execute, a
citizen's (Right To Free Speech and Assembly).

When Do Demonstrators Become--Terrorists? The Anti--Terrorist Act of 1996
appears aimed at public dissent: The Act contains language which can
charge law--abiding citizens of being agents or affording support to
terrorist organizations: Broadly written--intent to commit terrorist acts
is defined: (Appeared To Be Intended Toward Violence or Activities Which
Could Intimidate or Coerce a Civilian Population; or To Influence the
Policy of a Government). (18USC Sec. 2331): Any picket line or
demonstration, alleged by police to have blocked or obstructed public
access, could qualify as Terrorist Activities to intimidate or coerce a
civilian population: Terrorist charges make it possible for police to
forfeit attending demonstrators' homes used for meetings and the vehicles
they used for transportation to the event. Concern: Police agencies may
selectively charge a person or organization with either a low level
offense, or Terrorist Offense, for the same illegal act: Example: A fist
fight between union demonstrators and persons crossing a picket line, can
be upgraded by police to charge union members with (Terrorist
Activity).The 1996 Anti-Terrorist Act, broadly--redefined (Terrorist Acts)
as (involving any violent act or acts dangerous to human life that are a
violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state). The
violent or physical act need not cause bodily harm: The Act can be used by
police to target any group of persons--that would dare demonstrate for or
against any issue.

Secret Hearings--Secret Witnesses: U.S. Police routinely purchase court
testimony to convict defendants: Under the 1996 Anti-Terrorist and Death
Penalty Act, prosecutors may use secret/paid informants, secret testimony,
secret witnesses, and other hidden evidence to convict citizens for
terrorist acts: Defense against government terrorist charges, even against
the Death Penalty, may be difficult where citizens have no access to know
the alleged evidence against them or the right to cross examine government
secret witnesses: Secret--Hearings, Witnesses, Jurors: can be invoked by
Government to allegedly protect national security, government
investigations, jurors and witnesses. Conviction for terrorist activities
can result in huge fines, property forfeiture, prison sentences and
execution. Should citizens be allowed to have access to the evidence the
U.S. Government is using to convict them? Are secret--witnesses, hearings,
and jurors, in the best interests of a free society?

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An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities.

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inevitable, or humanity will become extinct by simple maladaptation...the
rejection of power is the first step in any such intelligent reversal."
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Contents:
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--Reclaim the Cities: from Protest to Popular Power
--Bush & the Law
--Seminole County: 15,000 Absentee Ballots at Stake as Lawsuit Gains
--Anti-election activities in Montreal and Quebec City
Linked stories:
*Report Shows U.S. Arms Monitoring Improperly Implemented
*'Are You Listening, Dear?' Gender May Matter
*Brothel on the stock exchange?
*A look at the election through cartoons
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Reclaim the Cities: from Protest to Popular Power

by Cindy Milstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Perspectives on Anarchist Theory - Vol. 4, No. 2 - Fall 2000

"Direct action gets the goods," proclaimed the Industrial
Workers of the World nearly a century ago. And in the short
time since Seattle, this has certainly proven to be the
case. Indeed, "the goods" reaped by the new direct action
movement here in North America have included creating doubt
as to the scope and nature of globalization, shedding light
on the nearly unknown workings of international trade and
finance bodies, and making anarchism and anticapitalism
almost household words. As if that weren't enough, we find
ourselves on the streets of twenty-first-century
metropolises demonstrating our power to resist in a way that
models the good society we envision: a truly democratic one.

But is this really what democracy looks like?

The impulse to "reclaim the streets" is an understandable
one. When industrial capitalism first started to emerge in
the early nineteenth century, its machinations were
relatively visible. Take, for instance, the enclosures.
Pasture lands that had been used in common for centuries to
provide villages with their very sustenance were
systematically fenced off - enclosed - in order to graze
sheep, whose wool was needed for the burgeoning textile
industry. Communal life was briskly thrust aside in favor of
privatization, forcing people into harsh factories and
crowded cities.

Advanced capitalism, as it pushes past the fetters of even
nation-states in its insatiable quest for growth, encloses
life in a much more expansive yet generally invisible way:
fences are replaced by consumer culture. We are raised in an
almost totally commodified world where nothing comes for
free, even futile attempts to remove oneself from the market
economy. This commodification seeps into not only what we
eat, wear, or do for fun but also into our language,
relationships, and even our very biology and minds. We have
lost not only our communities and public spaces but control
over our own lives; we have lost the ability to define
ourselves outside capitalism's grip, and thus genuine
meaning itself begins to dissolve.

"Whose Streets? Our Streets!" then, is a legitimate
emotional response to the feeling that even the most minimal
of public, noncommodified spheres has been taken from us.
Yet in the end, it is simply a frantic cry from our cage. We
have become so confined, so thoroughly damaged, by
capitalism as well as state control that crumbs appear to
make a nourishing meal.

Temporarily closing off the streets during direct actions
does provide momentary spaces in which to practice
democratic process, and even offers a sense of empowerment,
but such events leave power for power's sake, like the very
pavement beneath our feet, unchanged. Only when the serial
protest mode is escalated into a struggle for popular or
horizontal power can we create cracks in the figurative
concrete, thereby opening up ways to challenge capitalism,
nation-states, and other systems of domination.

This

[CTRL] Fw: [ NSP ] Colombia, Vietnam, and Kosovo

2000-11-30 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic


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Subject: [ NSP ] Colombia, Vietnam, and Kosovo


> Colombia, Vietnam, and Kosovo
>
> Colombia: another Viet Nam? was the subject of a public meeting at
> Leiden
> University. Organized by: Interlatina, Latin America Studies Society of
> the University. It was on Thursday 30 November, main building,
> Cleveringaplaats 1, hall 028.
>
> The packed big hall listed attentively to the two orators: Sebastian
> Linares and Carolina García, both representatives of the Colombian
> revolutionary movement FARC-EP. A video by Dutch TV journalists was
> shown,
> interviewing a farmer whose banana plantation had been sprayed by US
> airplanes, supposedly "anti-drug" planes, with poisonous chemicals,
> killing his baby daughter, and making it now impossible for the farmer to
> grow anything but coca leaves to survive.
>
> Sebastian Linares explained a ten point peace plan by FARC, and told how
> his movement wanted peace; however, not the peace of the grave, as in
> previous instances when dead squads had used armistices to kill guerilla
> fighters who had lain down arms. FARC, he said, had been founded in the
> 1960s, by peasants, after their attempts at peaceful resistance to
> exploitation had met with deadly state violence.
>
> He criticized the bases for US warplanes going to Colombia on the
> Netherlands Antilles islands. There should be peace between Colombians.
> However, the US government and Clinton's militaristic "Plan Colombia" and
> maybe other NATO governments in their wake threatened to wreck this;
> somewhat similarly to Vietnam.
>
> Sebastian Linares also compared Plan Colombia to NATO strategy
> around the
> Kosovo war. Like with the bombing of Yugoslavia, the big money of Plan
> Colombia was mainly money for destructive war, to be paid by the US
> taxpayers. Reconstruction after the war was supposed to be paid by the
> people of Yugoslavia and Western Europe; and in Colombia by the people
> of
> Colombia and Western Europe.
>
> The meeting lasted over four hours, with many questions asked. At the end,
> with the audience applauding, the chair of Interlatina gave the FARC
> representatives each a Dutch cheese as a present.
>
> Met vriendelijke groet/Best wishes,
> -
> Herman de Tollenaere
> - My
> Internet site on Asian history and "new" religions:
>
> http://homes.dsl.nl/~hermantl/
>
> See also SIMPOS, information on occult tendencies' impact on society:
>
> http://www.stelling.nl/simpos/simpoeng.htm
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Re: [CTRL] Laird Wilcox Editorial Research Service

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In a message dated 11/30/00 11:09:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Kris, this sounds an awfull lot like the republican party faithfull to
>me.  Did you catch Victor's show on wednesday?  On Monday he sounded as
>if he supported the republican stand (which he mostly does), and received
>some email that made logical/ideological arguements against his stand.
>On tuesday all he said was that Al Gore is not lying(as republican
>spokespeople are saying) when he says that some votes have not been
>counted yet, but that the legal time limits are expired and GW should be
>the winner.  He received over 200 what can only be described as hate
>emails (some of the tamer ones he read on the air) just for saying the
>Gore is NOT lying about that one issue.

 No, I dunna listen to Vic much anymore,
he gots to be such a bore.
for those who wonder he is the local tlak radio allowed in Eugene Oregon.

He is a strange bird. Alot of what you hear on the air about effects he is
having and people being stacked-up at times is "stage." I have been in the
studion during the show and have seen with my own eyes untrue staging.

Looks as if he is leaving us, to go to Portland 12/8 anyway.

The whole Gore lying was and is an issue that was chosen by strategists early
on and has become a "mantra" among the "faithful."

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Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics


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>From: Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:56:03 -0800
>
>-Caveat Lector-
>
> >In any system you will ALWAYS have an elite who due to personality
>disorders have an obsessive need for power and wealth.
>
>This is only true in the case of systems in which money is used and
>people respect power. There are numerous, successful cultures in which
>neither happen. Hierarchy is not inevitable.
>
>Read up. Start with People Without Government by Harold Barclay, ISBN
>0-900707-75-5
>
> >The only way to minimize the effect of the Power Elite is to minimize
>the power of government over its citizens.
>
>The greatest amount off power exercised by the elites is exercised not
>through government but through economics.

confirmed by the simple fact that people's buying power is recognized as
more solid than their voting power...

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Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics


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>From: flw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 09:44:20 -0500
>
>-Caveat Lector-
>
>Eric Stewart says in part:
> >>Roughly speaking we can distinguish five degrees of government:
>
>  (1) Unrestricted freedom
>  (2) Direct democracy
>  (3) Delegate democracy
>  (4) Representative democracy
>  (5) Overt minority dictatorship
>
> >>Overt dictators may sometimes be overthrown, but the real rulers
>in democratic regimes, the tiny minority who own or control virtually
>everything, are never voted in and never voted out. Most people dont even
> >>know who they are. . . .
>
>Some comments.
>
>Unrestricted mass democracy can be as dangerous, bloody and
>evil as any tyrannical dictatorship. Democracy has been defined as
>3 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

even in a case where there are three sheep and one wolf, two of the sheep
are likey to go along with the wolf because of the wolf's known disposition
and capabilities...

>
>I agree that the "real power" in the world's democratic states are the
>hidden elite who own the politicopaths who serve their interest.
>
>In any system you will ALWAYS have an elite who due to personality
>disorders have an obsessive need for power and wealth. The only way
>to minimize the effect of the Power Elite is to minimize the power of
>government over its citizens.

or maximize the accountability of government to its citizens and maximize
the accountability of the wolf to the other 99 sheep [a more realistic ratio
i believe]

>
>A casual study of American History clearly demonstrates that the Power
>Elite depend on Government to further their interests.

any system in which a mandate is created will have the power elite AND the
powerless looking to government to mediate...it should be the role of
government to level the playing field...

>From the early Land Speculators, to the
>Railroad Magnates to the Corporate Robber Barons - all
>needed the power of government in order to thrive. In that way they operate
>very much like the Power Elite of of all political systems, whether they be
>"the Nobility"; the
>"Monarchists"; the"Capitalists" or the "Socialists."
>
>If you want to stop the Government Bulldozer from smashing down the
>peaceful villiage and rolling over the inhabitants, smash the engine.
>Then the driver of the dozer will sit in frustrated, helpless fury while
>the
>people point and laugh.

i love makida drills...

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[CTRL] US Democracy in Crisis

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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:40:08 -0800

Independent Media Center
http://www.indymedia.org

US Democracy in Crisis Monday 27 Nov 2000
author: Brian Oliver Sheppard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

summary
US election crisis: int'l opinion as surveyed from world press; contrasts US
stance on similar crises in western hemisphere.

Reaction to US Election Crisis
by Brian Oliver Sheppard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
11-27-2000

No Real Democracy in the USA

The US Presidential election has resulted in many peoples' worst suspicions
being confirmed: the US has no real democracy in any meaningful sense, and
to the extent that it does it is hated by elites who see it as a nuisance,
infringing upon their entitlement to rule without interruption or
distraction. The Electoral College, the two party system (actually two
factions of the Business Party), media manipulation, soft money
contributions - all these add up to a rather unsavory picture of how the
American system operates. Although many people have been arguing for decades
that the U.S. system is unfair, is not democratic, and is not a reflection
of trust in the people's ability to govern themselves, it is interesting to
see so many newcomers get turned onto these ideas.

In June of the year 2000, elections in Peru were marred by allegations of
fraud, backroom dealings, etc., just as US elections are now. This was
considered a crisis in the Western Hemisphere by the Organization of
American States (OAS). The US reacted swiftly and held several press
conferences to condemn undemocratic practices in Peru. A press briefing
issued by the US State Department (available on the web at
http://www.usinfo.state.gov/regional/ar/peru/oas5.htm) states that the US
felt it best to "send a mission to Peru in the aftermath of that country's
recent controversial presidential election." Former Florida Governor and
Clinton Administration special envoy to the Americas Kenneth McKay warned
everyone that "the state of democracy in one country inevitably affects us
all" and that "[w]hen one country's democracy is weakened, the entire
inter-American system suffers." The US, as always, had no qualms about
stepping into the fray as self-appointed expert on democracy, to arbitrate
and manage another country's affairs. The US always does this, all the more
so when there is a buck to be made by US corporations or when the interests
of geopolitical power can be strengthened.

Undersecretary of State Thomas Pickering remarked that Peru's election fraud
was "the most critical issue the Organization has faced this year." (His
comments at this press conference are online at
http://www.usinfo.state.gov/regional/ar/peru/pick5.htm) He said that
"profound systemic weaknesses in Peru ... led to the deficiencies in the
electoral processes" there. He stated that the allegations of fraud
reflected a "crisis of credibility" in Peru's democratic structure. He also
stated that the US was perhaps not perfect itself, and that "we hope that in
fact this organization [OAS] which has devoted so much time and attention to
democracy will also be there to lend a hand when any of us need help and
assistance and support." This seems to suggest that if the US had an
electoral crisis that the OAS, the Electoral Observation Mission, the
Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, and others might step in and
"help" us out as well - and that, in fact, such an action would be welcomed
by the US State Department.

International Reaction to US Elections is Sarcastic, Cynical

No doubt Undersecretary of State Pickering was suggesting that other
countries might need to dispatch delegations to "any of us" when we ran into
election trouble so that the appropriate veneer of humility and
egalitarianism would be provided. This display of humility surely makes US
meddling seem more tolerable. The US intervenes abroad regularly, whether
overtly or covertly, whether welcomed or not, because the US doesn't
tolerate anything that even hints at a hatred for democracy, or so the
prevailing sentiment seems to be. Democracy and freedom were what our
forefathers fought and died for, and, by God, it really irks us to see
others suffering under undemocratic regimes. But apparently we are irked
only if the ones suffering under an undemocratic regime aren't us common
folk here at home.

The Association of Democratic Nigerians Abroad: "May we suggest that a
delegation from the Organization of African Unity be dispatched forthwith
[to the USA] to investigate? And as in Africa, where political reform has
gone hand in hand with structural adjustment, the OAU can pass on the
lessons we have learned under the tutelage of the World Bank and the IMF,
beginning with an end to agricultural subsidies, cuts in defense spending
and social services, drastic reductions in tariff barriers, and above a

[CTRL] Fwd: (Fwd) New Slogans for Florida


In a message dated 11/30/2000 3:35:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< New Slogans For Florida!

  FLORIDA: If you think we can't vote, wait till you see us drive.

  FLORIDA: Home of electile dysfunction.

  FLORIDA: We count more than you do.

  FLORIDA: If you don't like the way we count then take I-95 and
  visit one of
 the other 56 states.

  FLORIDA: Relax, Retire, ReVote.

  FLORIDA: Viagra voters do it again!

  FLORIDA: What comes after 17,311?

  FLORIDA: Where your vote counts and counts and counts.

  FLORIDA: This is what you get for taking Elian away from us.

  FLORIDA: We don't just cheat in football.

  FLORIDA: We're number one!  Wait! Recount!

 Palm Beach County: So nice, we let you vote twice.

 Palm Beach County: We put the "duh" in Florida.

 Sign on I-95 : Florida this way, no that way, 5 miles, wait -- 10
 miles. >>





--- Forwarded message follows ---

New Slogans For Florida!

 FLORIDA: If you think we can't vote, wait till you see us drive.

 FLORIDA: Home of electile dysfunction.

 FLORIDA: We count more than you do.

 FLORIDA: If you don't like the way we count then take I-95 and
 visit one of
the other 56 states.

 FLORIDA: Relax, Retire, ReVote.

 FLORIDA: Viagra voters do it again!

 FLORIDA: What comes after 17,311?

 FLORIDA: Where your vote counts and counts and counts.

 FLORIDA: This is what you get for taking Elian away from us.

 FLORIDA: We don't just cheat in football.

 FLORIDA: We're number one!  Wait! Recount!

Palm Beach County: So nice, we let you vote twice.

Palm Beach County: We put the "duh" in Florida.

Sign on I-95 : Florida this way, no that way, 5 miles, wait -- 10
miles.


--- End of forwarded message ---
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[CTRL] Judicial Watch Because no one is above the law!

2000-11-30 Thread Amelia




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http://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/krupp_family.htmhttp://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/fritz_index.htmToday,
the intrigue of the Illuminati to secretly prepare for their takeoveris
monumental in proportions. However, it is following many of the tried
andtested tactics of the Krupps. Before W.W.I, the Krupps created a
Dutchcompany in Hague with the English name Blessing and Company. Blessing
& Co.was used only every now and then by the Krupps. After W.W.I, it was
soldwith all its assets to the Hollandsche Industrie en Handel
Maatschappij(another Dutch front), and then its name was changed to Siderius
A.G. It wasthen used as a holding company for 3 Dutch shipyards, their names
being PietSmit in Rotterdam, Maschinen en Apparaten Fabrik in Utrecht,
andIngenieur-Kantoor voor Scheepsbouw in the Hague. At that time two
Kruppdirectors quietly held all the shares in Siderius. In this way, a
frontcompany was created that no one even suspected of being a Krupp
company.Later, select Dutchmen were sold the shares of the company that the
Kruppdirectors had had. This completed the subterfuge. By the time
alliedintelligence in 1926 caught on and asked the Dutch government to
intervene,Queen Wilhelmina of Holland curtly informed allied intelligence
that hergovt. would in no way interfere with a private dutch corporation.
When onestudies the machinations George Bush and Bill & Hillary Clinton,
they toohave worked with front companies. The CIA is great at creating
frontcompanies which are sold to other fronts, and whose control eventually
getshidden and obscured. Three examples of Illuminati families with a great
dealof power but who have their extensive financial holdings obscured are
thePayseurs, the Springs, and the Van Duyns. The national media of America
havecontinually run expert damage control for George Bush and Bill &
HillaryClinton. The Whitewater scandal, Vincent Foster and the Waco incident
shouldhave sunk the Chintons but the media has run excellent propaganda
campaignsthat have stood the truth on its head. Under the appearance of
doingunbiased investigations, the New World Order’s media has really
donesophisticated damage control. If we look at the history of the Krupps,
wecan see that mankind hasn’t learned from history. The Kingpins of
theIlluminati were above the law and still are. Friedrich Alfred
Krupp(1854-1902) was the head of the Fried. Krupp Industrial Empire. He
waspediophile who liked little boys for sex. When he travelled to various
largecities he would obtain boys. Conrad UhI, proprietor of the Hotel
Bristol inBerlin found out about Friedrich (Fritz) Krupp’s lust for boys
when he wasforced by Krupp to supply him with young boys at the Hotel.
Conrad UhI, didn’t like being forced into his role as pimp and went to the
Berlin police.who promptly told him to keep quiet. Krupp was above the law,
no one wouldtouch Krupp especially not even the King of Germany Wilhelm, who
was best offriends with the Krupps. The police commissioner
Meerscheidt-Huellessem whoran damage control for the Krupps and others died
before political opponentsof Krupp could get police records out to the
public.In Capri, Italy a grotto was transformed into Krupp’s private sex
club wherea countless numbers of young italian boys regularly sexually
serviced Krupp.This was at the Quisisana Hotel. The owner was also a
prominent politicianwho could protect Krupp’s activities. Solid gold pins
shaped like artilleryshells or two crossed forks (both designed by Krupp)
were given to the youngboys if they performed well. Krupp would have
skyrockets shot off when hehad his orgasm, and porn photos taken of his
activities. The porn picturesgot out into the public domain and this and all
the witnesses to Krupp’scriminal sexual activities, caused the Italian
government to order Krupp toleave Italy. Any common person would have been
arrested and the key to theircell thrown away--but Krupp was simply asked to
leave. However, the press inItaly had gotten ahold of the juicy story for
their italian readers and soonall of Europe knew of Kru pp’s paedophilia
except in Germany where thegovernment and the controlled media kept it
secret. A few german newsmentried to get the story out in Germany but were
arrested. When Krupp’s wifelearned of the scandal she was upset and went to
authorities who thenthrough the System using physical force threw Krupp’s
wife in a mentalhospital in Jena. However, throwing Krupp’s wife Margaretha
into a mentalhospital wasn’t going to put a cap on the scandal, and suing
the newsmenwasn’t going to work, and trying to run a coverup as big and
violent as theJFK assassination coverup was started but it was obvious that
it would haveto be such a large and violent coverup that it would be
difficult to pulloff. In the view of all these difficulties, on November 21
or 22, 1902Friedrich (Fritz) Krupp committed suicide. The suicide w

[CTRL] THE KRUPPS & THE ILLUMINATI - F.Springmeier 1/2

THE KRUPPS & THE ILLUMINATI - F.Springmeier 1/2
THE KRUPPS & THE ILLUMINATIhttp://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/krupp_family.htmhttp://user.tninet.se/~gbl020q/fritz_index.htmOne
of the big lessons from history is that mankind doesn’t learn fromhistory.
The history of the Krupp family which is in the llluminatj wouldprovide the
world with a loud and clear warning for today. The first lessonthat could be
learned is how a military buildup and military intentions canbe totally
concealed for decades. Today, the New World Order has brought inhundreds of
thousands of foreign troops into the United States, they havebrought in
thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of guillotines forexecutions, they
have built a network of unused concentration camps acrossthe U.S., they have
built crematoriums next to these concentration camps,and yet most Americans
appear to believe the lies of President Clinton andothers just like they
believed the lies of Krupp, and the German ChancellorsBEFORE Hitler, and the
German military leaders who were all well aware ofthe secret German buildup
that began immediately after W.W. I ended! We areabout to go into a New
World Order that will be worse than Hitler’s NewWorld Order, but the power
behind the scenes is the same -- the Illuminatigetting their power from
their centuries-old generational satanic practices.One ex-Illuminati thinks
that the Krupp family became part of the Illuminatiin 1836. The Halbach and
Bohlen families had united in marriage prior to theCivil War. The Halbach
family had large holdings of coal around Scranton,PA. I believe the Halbach
family was part of the Illuminati, and the Halbachfamily married into the
Krupps in 1906. ft appears that 1836 date can not befar off, because the
record shows that the Krupp family began getting allkinds of favors from
governments beginning late in the 1830s. Prior to thistime period, too many
things went the wrong way for the Krupp family forthem to had any prominent
role in the Illuminati leadership. In the summerof 1838, Alfred Krupp, head
of the Krupp Factories left his business andwent to Paris and then on to
Liverpool. He quit travelling the Midlands ofEngland that winter and lived
in Liverpool, England for 5 months with anenglish family named Lightbody. By
the summer of 1839, he was back in Essen,Germany. After that trip to
England, the Krupp fortunes began to turn. TheAlchemists were occultists who
worked with chemicals and metals. Thealchemists tie in with the Rosicrucians
and the early renaissanceresearchers into chemistry.The Krupps
because they were involved in metalurgy also have been involvedwith
chemicals. The first Krupp known about was Arndt Krupp who appeared outof no
where (it is speculated he came from Holland) and arrived at Essen in1587 a
man of means and became a merchant in the area. His son Anton becameone of
the military arms dealers of the times. Anton’s father-in-law ran agunsmith
trade where he made guns. By about 1650, the Krupps were EssenGermany’s
uncrowned kings" (according to the german book Die KRUPPS writtenby Norbert
Muehlen. Frankfurt am Main: 1960, p. 13). They controlled thecity
government. In 1800, the Krupps went into steel and coal, and
producingcannon. During the age of discovery when the New World was being
exploredthe powerful occult oligarchies of Europe set up trading companies
to carveup control of the world. The East India Company was one of the more
notableof these elite controlled trading companies. These trading companies
tie inwith the occult world’s leadership and the formation of drug cartels
duringthe age of discovery. The 13 Illuminati families were participants in
thenarcotics cartel that was set up clear back before the United States
becamea nation. The roots of the cartels, go back to Knights Templars, the
Knightsof Malta and some of the Italian oligarchies who had been involved
innarcotics trade for centuries.That drug cartel has continued down
through the centuries. I.G. Farben hasbeen a 20th century part of the German
element of the cartel. Clear backduring colonial days, each of the various
secret ruling occult families fromEngland, Germany, France and the
Netherlands were given a piece of thenarcotics/chemical trade. The full
story of the Krupp family would includehow they tie in with I.G. Farben and
the worldwide chemical monopoly thatthe Illuminati families have. It is
clear that Gustav Krupp was informed ofI.G. Farben’s secret research into
synthetic nitrates prior to W.W.I,because Gustav told the great German
chemist Emil Fischer not to worry aboutthe guncotton problem caused by low
nitrate supplies. The Krupps faced abigger problem during W.W.II in getting
enough high grade animal fat forholding the cotton in place for explosives.
This was solved by using the fatof people killed in the concentration camps.
Since the Illuminati’s Chemicalcartel and I.G. Farben and Krupp were
involved in the use of human

[CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER/Should Europe become more independent of US defense policy


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USA is also running Danish defense/military policy. The danes (and the rest of Europe) 
are being dragged into the New World Order by the US, and that is a sad story. We are 
being set up to assist in international operations, which certainly is not in the 
danish national interest. Could you please tell your president, or whoever runs the 
show, to stop this.

Sincerely, Ole Gerstrom, Copenhagen, Denmark


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From: Jayson R. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] "DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER" 29 November 2000 Part 1


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:02:12 EST Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >-Caveat Lector-
> >I am interested in the following feedbacks for next week:
>
> >* Should Europe become more independent of US defense policy? How
> >should we adjust?
>
> Europe, and the rest of the world too, should definately NOT look to the
> U.S. for leadership in defense issues, social issues, nor any other
> issues.  It is time for the U.S. to mind it's own business, stop meddling
> in the affairs of others, and tend to it's own problems.  These problems
> have been glossed over for far too long by the "Greater Urgency" of
> foreign affairs.  We are exporting our schizoid policies by forcing them
> on everyone else in order to make ourselves look better.  Let's take a
> "time out" and get our own house in order.  Let's let the rest of the
> world figure things out for themselves, in their own way.  One size does
> not fit all.
>
> >* Do you agree with the Army going LIGHT?
>
> Yes.  We are currently light years ahead of everyone else in hitech
> military gadgets, and new technologies are making our BILLIONS of
> investment  in "wonderous gadgets" worthless even before they are
> fielded.  No one is going to "nuke" the U.S. as we are rapidly making
> ourselves irrelevant.
>
> >Do you foresee duplication problems
> >with the Marines or do you suspect the Army wants to make peacekeeping
> >its primary "business"?
>
> Their missions are different.
>
> >* Do you think another Kosovo flare-up is inevitable?
>
> Yes.  Untill we understand that our demarcation of Europe based on
> geopolitical lines is and always was destined to fail, and that the
> people will, in the end, sort themselves out along ethnic lines, there
> will be continual conflicts in that area.
>
> >Whoever wins this election, and it looks like it will be GW, won't
> >make much of a splash for the future because of the ideological residue.
>
> >Politicians will continue to play party-line follies versus working for
> the common
> >good.
>
> I do not think that GW will prevail in the end.  Tho I did not vote for
> either of these two bozo's I am now ernestly hoping that Gore wins the
> "Contest" for a number of reasons. First, if Gore succeeds it will bring
> out the rotten underbelly of the republican party in full revolt.  That
> way we can identify and deal with them as the lunatic fringe that they
> are.  I agree with much that the republicans stand for, but am totally
> turned off my the religious zealots who insist on making every issue a
> moral issue.  Let's flush them out then flush them down the drain.
>
> >Real change won't come until the next election, hopefully through a
> >strong third party that embodies our American ideals, opposed to the
> >influence by special interests.
>
> YES!!!
>
> >Our Native American ancestors always cautioned that men who desire
> >power are generally not good men, and good men generally don't desire
> > power. Not desiring power is the trait of a good leader, for he will
> step down
> >when he has accomplished his mission.
>
> So true.
>
> >It shouldn't be impossible to find good leaders for America. After
> >all, this country motivated idealists like Jefferson, Washington,
> Lafayette,
> >Steuben, Lincoln and others.
>
> >There isn't a good reason to become like Rome, even when the new
> >president offers us 180 days of games.
>
> Unfortunately those in power are not willing to give it up without a
> fight, and many in this country are so fat, dumb and happy right now that
> they are not willing to make the sacrifices necessary for real change.
>
> >(c) R.W. Zimmermann, LandserUSA
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Jayson R. Jones
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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[CTRL] FW: KTRU press release ver. 1

2000-11-30 Thread Mike Switzer

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-Original Message-
From: D.L.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/30/2000 11:28 AM
Subject: KTRU press release ver. 1

_

At 8:00am CST on Nov. 30, student-controlled programming at KTRU 91.7fm
in
Houston was abruptly brought to an end by the administration of Rice
University. This was done in response to a protest by student djs of
increased athletics broadcasting on KTRU. The incident in question was
the
broadcasting of music over the second half of Nov. 28th's basketball
game.
While not all djs agree with this course of action, it is clear that the
majority believe that Rice athletics has no place on KTRU.

KTRU has been controlled and run by the students of Rice University
since
its inception over 30 years ago. However, the consolidation of the radio
market has increasingly left Rice athletics with fewer broadcast
options.
Over the past few years, the student management of KTRU has grudgingly
ceded air time to Rice athletics in the hopes of reaching an acceptable
compromise. Unfortunately, in the last few months the athletics
department
has proceeded to continue to push for more air time with the backing of
the
Rice administration.

KTRU holds an educational license from the FCC, and the students of KTRU
take that concept very seriously, believing we have a role in the
education
of the audience as well as ourselves. We play a diverse assortment of
music, focusing on underexposed genres and artists. We fail to see the
educational value of broadcasting mainstream athletic events. In
addition,
the proposed increase in athletics programming is essentially being
mandated by the administration of Rice University, with little to no
regard
for the traditions or opinions of KTRU.

We are sad to see this occur, but we believe in student control of KTRU.
As one of the last bastions of free radio, we will continue to fight for
what we believe.

Dennis Lee
Operations Manager
Hip-Hop Director
KTRU 91.7fm
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For more information on the history of KTRU:
http://www.rice.edu/projects/thresher/issues/88/00.10.27/current/feature
/index.html

To express your concern, send comments to:
KTRU 91.7fm
Rice University
6100 S. Main St.
Houston, TX 77005

or

Dr. Zenaido Camacho (Vice president for student affairs)
Rice University, MS-6
6100 S. Main St.
Houston, TX 77005
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Re: [CTRL] The Time for Talk Is Over

2000-11-30 Thread Nessie


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>There is "Common Sense", and most people have far more of it than the
politico's believe.


Common sense is what tells us the earth is flat.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Scientists say anti-Ebola vaccine works on monkeys

2000-11-30 Thread mirage


-Caveat Lector-

'Tis true that many of these diseases have a long history, yet many have been
found to be 'variants', never before seen until recently.  There is the
possibility that they have mutated or that the techniques to identify them are
better.  Having done a great deal of study in this area, I find it difficult to
believe all these variants could be natural.  The recent WNV is a variant of the
original and there is ample evidence that Plum Island was working on this and
the Japanese variety as early as the 70s.  Of course a pharmacuetical firm is
working on a vaccine for this now.

Whether released accidentally or purposefully, I feel that the new  vWNV was
from Plum Island.  And Donald Scott's research into CFS posits, with much
careful documentation, that the brucellosis bacteria was combined with the
coxsacckie virus to produce a debilitating 'retro-virus';  released for testing
in a school in Tahoe, North Yorkshire and Skull Valley, Canada in '84.  This
caused an illness that had no definitive set of symptoms so MDs initially just
told the sufferers it was 'in their heads', prescribing SSRIs and tri-cyclic
anti-depressants (an article I have informs that the result of a study shows
that use of Paxil, a SSRI very similar to Prozac, will raise a womans risk of
breast cancer by 2 times and that Elavil will raise the risk 7 times...  Elavil
is often prescribed to women with FM) while some had neurological impairment to
such an extent they could no longer walk  some even died of this devastating
and painful condition.  It took Britain 3 years to admit that there was
something to claims of the terrible and disabling illness that broke out in
Bradford, N.Yorkshire in 1984.  It is also difficult to believe that BSE which
is a variant of Mad Cow Disease is a natural occurance.

Hanta virus has been listed in ProMED as a variant, at least some of the new
cases.

When looking into the nature and history of biowarfare development, the goals
and generous funding, it's easy to assume that many of today's new diseases are
caused by government/pharmaceutical chimeras.  And then the 'cures' from the
same people will often create other health compromising conditions.  Either way
this industry is profiting.

Somewhere in my files I have information on a mysterious outbreak of HepC in New
Hampshire.  The state was in a large panic, mandatory vaccination measures were
proposed in the state legislature, but fortunately defeated.  How did that
pathogen suddenly manifest as an epidemic.  Of course new vaccines were ready
and given to a majority of the population.  I'm so cynical that I believe it may
have been a social experiment.  HepC, from what I've learned is like HepB in
that it is only communicated by blood;  sex, needles.  The genetically
engineered viruses used for some vaccines are questioned, even by vaccine
advocates, since no one is really sure how they interact with native DNA.

Now the word on BSE is that some people have it at a subclinical level and could
be carriers.  This has the potential of being used as an excuse for government
control and abuse of medical rights and privacy.  We live in a time and society
where the rights and freedoms of the individual may clash with mandated public
health measures, which may or may not be necessary, or based on anything more
than a manufactured event or publicly disseminated disinformation.

Count me overly suspicious.  But who knows?  I could not say with certainty
either way.

I agree that anecdotal information should be considered, not discounted because
it isn't empirical.  But science generally is too arrogant to consider it as a
means to further their findings.  How many people have suffered and even died of
some condition that didn't officially exist, while their MDs told them it was
'all in their heads'?  They do not value anecdotal information, even when they
can see their patients are ill.

   ~ M
 --
> Ebola isn't new.  When I was about l4 years old, I read a book by Attilio
> Gatti.  In it he spoke of the "tabu lands" a huge area in about the center of
> what was then the Belgian Congo.  The natives refused to enter the area.
> They said that if one went into the tabu lands, he and his entire family
> died, sometimes his entire village.  The book even showed a map of the area.
> When ebola became noticed and the brains that try to discover what's going
> on, I managed to get the book (months of interlibrary loan searching) and
> send copies of the pertinent pages to Atlanta.  At the time they were
> searching for the carrier.  I imagine they threw my stuff into the first
> trash can, but I could relax, knowing I had offered it.   I don't believe
> they've discovered yet which creature passes it along without having any
> problems of its own.  Gatti wasn't interested in diseases; he's the guy that
> finally brought out the okapi (which had been considered a figment of some
> native's imagination).  He wanted to go i

[CTRL] Fwd: How Bush Family Plotted Fraud


-Caveat Lector-

>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000
>From: virtual agent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Conspiracy Digest: How Bush Family Plotted Fraud
>
>CONSPIRACY DIGEST EXCLUSIVE:
>HOW BUSH FAMILY PLOTTED FRAUD
>
>In a bombshell story the Bush Family is trying to
>suppress, Lt. Cmdr. Al Martin, US Navy (Ret) reveals
>how the Bush Family plotted fraud after fraud after
>fraud during the Iran-Contra era.
>
>This exclusive investigative report,
>"Double-Crossed: Black Ops, Beltway Bandits and the US
>Shadow Government," by Uri Dowbenko is at Conspiracy
>Digest (http://www.conspiracydigest.com).
>
>"What would you do if Ollie North and his covert
>Iran-Contra network owed you $200,000?" the article
>begins. "All things considered, you might have better
>luck collecting from the Gambino or Colombo Family,
>the New York based mob syndicates. At least they claim
>to be men of honor."
>
>"And that's Al Martin's dilemma. He's been placed
>in what he calls the 'jack box,' the untenable
>position of being owed money by an illegal black ops
>network of Iran-Contra players. This outfit includes
>military and intel officers, governmentbureaucrats,
>and "beltway bandits," fraudsters and so-called
>"consultants" who feed at the trough of corrupt
>Washington politics and dirty deals. In short, Al
>Martin has been double-crossed."
>
>Because of his failing health, Al Martin has
>decided to go public and tell the whole story of the
>Iran Contra Conspiracy.
>
>This provocative and highly controversial article
>details some of the various frauds committed by Bush
>Family members, including real estate fraud,
>securities fraud and banking fraud.
>
>Al Martin tells the whole story of explosive
>allegations and insider crimes in his new memoir,
>"The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran Contra
>Insider," available at the Al Martin Raw website.
>(http://www.almartinraw.com)

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Re: [CTRL] The Time for Talk Is Over

2000-11-30 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:28:23 EST Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>
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>Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!

>The Time for Talk Is Over

>Richard Poe
>Nov. 28, 2000

>Bush has won Florida. But the Gore team fights on. For the first time
>in our history, Americans face the possibility that the president we
elected
>may not be allowed to serve.
>The question is: What are we going to do about it?

What we are going to do about it is:  a) count the votes.   b) since it
is highly probable that Gore will win, we are going to attempt to install
him as (rightfully) the next president.  c) watch carefully when the
right wing extremists riot in the streets and in government.  d)deal with
the crisis in a meaningfull way (I hope).

>And so the arguments raged. Endlessly. Pointlessly. Unresolved. Just
>like the arguments we Americans are having today over the vote count in
>Florida.

Yes, that is true.  But hopefully the vast number of people realize that
the votes must be counted, and woo be onto anyone who says different.

>The Nazi press confused people by charging Hitlerâs opponents with
>every crime that Hitler himself committed.

Let's see, hmmm.  How many Speakers of the House (and how much
credibility) did the republicans lose in their persecution of Clinton?

>Leni Riefenstahl was correct, in one regard. It is not so easy to pick
>the right side. There is no crystal ball to tell us whom to follow or
whom
>to believe.

There is "Common Sense", and most people have far more of it than the
politico's believe.

>Each of us must make that choice alone, in the solitude of his own
>heart. I have made it for myself. And you, gentle reader, have no doubt
made it
>too.

"The theory that regards the absense of all direct or coersive government
as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary
association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized
society."

>But restraint is no virtue when freedom hangs in the balance.
>Republicans and Democrats alike must accept that the time
> for talk has ended.

Since we have lost most of our freedoms BECAUSE of the democrats and
republicans making major and minor end runs around the Constitution, it
is time for them to fight to the death.  Only then can we pick up the
pieces and get on with the "Great Experiment" started by the Founding
Fathers.

>Now we will see who has the courage to prevail.

It will take more than courage to prevail, tho courage is very important.
 When the rubber meets the road, it is who is more prepared to go to the
wall for their beliefs.

>Richard Poe is editor of David Horowitz's Web site
>FrontPageMagazine.com. To

Jayson R. Jones

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Re: [CTRL] Laird Wilcox Editorial Research Service

2000-11-30 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:50:18 EST Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>-Caveat Lector-

>Laird Wilcox on Extremist Traits
>
>[The Hoaxer Project Report, pp. 39-41]

>Robert F. Kennedy wrote:

>"What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not that
>they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what
they
>say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents."
>
>In analyzing the rhetoric and propaganda of several hundred militant
>"fringe" political and social groups across the political spectrum, I
have
>identified a number of specific traits or behaviors that tend to
represent the
>extremist "style"...
>1. CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.

>2. NAME-CALLING AND LABELING.

>3. IRRESPONSIBLE SWEEPING GENERALIZATIONS.

>4. INADEQUATE PROOF FOR ASSERTIONS.

>5. ADVOCACY OF DOUBLE STANDARDS.

>6. TENDENCY TO VIEW THEIR OPPONENTS AND CRITICS AS ESSENTIALLY EVIL.

>7. MANICHAEAN WORLDVIEW.

>8. ADVOCACY OF SOME DEGREE OF CENSORSHIP OR REPRESSION OF THEIR
>OPPONENTS AND/OR CRITICS.

>9. TEND TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF WHO THEIR ENEMIES ARE: >WHOM
THEY HATE AND WHO HATES THEM.

>10. TENDENCY TOWARD ARGUMENT BY INTIMIDATION.

>11. USE OF SLOGANS, BUZZWORDS, AND THOUGHT-STOPPING CLICHES.

>12. ASSUMPTION OF MORAL OR OTHER SUPERIORITY OVER OTHERS.

>13. DOOMSDAY THINKING.

>14. BELIEF THAT IT'S OKAY TO DO BAD THINGS IN THE SERVICE OF A "GOOD"
>CAUSE.

>15. EMPHASIS ON EMOTIONAL RESPONSES AND, CORRESPONDINGLY, LESS
>IMPORTANCE A TTACHED TO REASONING AND LOGICAL ANALYSIS.

>16. HYPERSENSITIVITY AND VIGILANCE.

>17. USE OF SUPERNATURAL RATIONALE FOR BELIEFS AND ACTIONS.

>18. PROBLEMS TOLERATING AMBIGUITY AND UNCERTAINTY.

>19. INCLINATION TOWARD "GROUPTHINK."

>20. TENDENCY TO PERSONALIZE HOSTILITY.

>21. EXTREMISTS OFTEN FEEL THAT THE SYSTEM IS NO GOOD UNLESS THEY >WIN.

Kris, this sounds an awfull lot like the republican party faithfull to
me.  Did you catch Victor's show on wednesday?  On Monday he sounded as
if he supported the republican stand (which he mostly does), and received
some email that made logical/ideological arguements against his stand.
On tuesday all he said was that Al Gore is not lying(as republican
spokespeople are saying) when he says that some votes have not been
counted yet, but that the legal time limits are expired and GW should be
the winner.  He received over 200 what can only be described as hate
emails (some of the tamer ones he read on the air) just for saying the
Gore is NOT lying about that one issue.

>Aloha, He'Ping,
>Om, Shalom, Salaam.
>Em Hotep, Peace Be,
>All My Relations.
>Omnia Bona Bonis,
>Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
>Amen.
>Roads End

All the foregoing and a hearty "Have a Good Day" to you
Jayson R. Jones

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Re: [CTRL] "DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER" 29 November 2000 Part 1

2000-11-30 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:02:12 EST Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>-Caveat Lector-
>I am interested in the following feedbacks for next week:

>* Should Europe become more independent of US defense policy? How
>should we adjust?

Europe, and the rest of the world too, should definately NOT look to the
U.S. for leadership in defense issues, social issues, nor any other
issues.  It is time for the U.S. to mind it's own business, stop meddling
in the affairs of others, and tend to it's own problems.  These problems
have been glossed over for far too long by the "Greater Urgency" of
foreign affairs.  We are exporting our schizoid policies by forcing them
on everyone else in order to make ourselves look better.  Let's take a
"time out" and get our own house in order.  Let's let the rest of the
world figure things out for themselves, in their own way.  One size does
not fit all.

>* Do you agree with the Army going LIGHT?

Yes.  We are currently light years ahead of everyone else in hitech
military gadgets, and new technologies are making our BILLIONS of
investment  in "wonderous gadgets" worthless even before they are
fielded.  No one is going to "nuke" the U.S. as we are rapidly making
ourselves irrelevant.

>Do you foresee duplication problems
>with the Marines or do you suspect the Army wants to make peacekeeping
>its primary "business"?

Their missions are different.

>* Do you think another Kosovo flare-up is inevitable?

Yes.  Untill we understand that our demarcation of Europe based on
geopolitical lines is and always was destined to fail, and that the
people will, in the end, sort themselves out along ethnic lines, there
will be continual conflicts in that area.

>Whoever wins this election, and it looks like it will be GW, won't
>make much of a splash for the future because of the ideological residue.

>Politicians will continue to play party-line follies versus working for
the common
>good.

I do not think that GW will prevail in the end.  Tho I did not vote for
either of these two bozo's I am now ernestly hoping that Gore wins the
"Contest" for a number of reasons. First, if Gore succeeds it will bring
out the rotten underbelly of the republican party in full revolt.  That
way we can identify and deal with them as the lunatic fringe that they
are.  I agree with much that the republicans stand for, but am totally
turned off my the religious zealots who insist on making every issue a
moral issue.  Let's flush them out then flush them down the drain.

>Real change won't come until the next election, hopefully through a
>strong third party that embodies our American ideals, opposed to the
>influence by special interests.

YES!!!

>Our Native American ancestors always cautioned that men who desire
>power are generally not good men, and good men generally don't desire
> power. Not desiring power is the trait of a good leader, for he will
step down
>when he has accomplished his mission.

So true.

>It shouldn't be impossible to find good leaders for America. After
>all, this country motivated idealists like Jefferson, Washington,
Lafayette,
>Steuben, Lincoln and others.

>There isn't a good reason to become like Rome, even when the new
>president offers us 180 days of games.

Unfortunately those in power are not willing to give it up without a
fight, and many in this country are so fat, dumb and happy right now that
they are not willing to make the sacrifices necessary for real change.

>(c) R.W. Zimmermann, LandserUSA
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[CTRL] 'Midnight' Regs: Clinton Readies an Avalanche of Regulations

2000-11-30 Thread mirage


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http://www.latimes.com/news/front/20001126/t000113578.html


Sunday, November 26, 2000

Clinton Readies an Avalanche of Regulations

Policy: Transitions spur a flurry of last-minute actions. The push this year
is on the environment, labor, health care.

By ROBERT A. ROSENBLATT, ELIZABETH SHOGREN, Times Staff Writers


 WASHINGTON--The Clinton administration is striving mightily to pour
forth regulations on the environment, labor, health care and other
controversial topics before Jan. 20 brings a new occupant to the White
House.
 The end of every presidential term brings a flurry of last-minute
activities, and a transition from one party to the other generally triggers a
blizzard of what has become known as "midnight regulations."  After this
year's close and bitterly contested election, whose winner still has not been
determined, the mere prospect of a Republican administration headed by
George W. Bush is making the Democrats who are now in control all the
more determined to leave a lasting imprint on public policy.
 Here are some of the more controversial regulations that the
administration is likely to put into effect before Jan. 20:

 * A 95% reduction in the amount of sulfur in diesel fuel, which powers
the trucks that transport most of the goods Americans consume. Advocates
hail it as the biggest pollution cleanup since lead was removed from
gasoline. Business opponents blast it as the equivalent of a hefty new tax that
would cripple diesel fuel production and send prices soaring.
 * Tighter privacy standards for electronic medical records. Individuals
want to keep their records confidential and to be able to sue if their privacy
is violated. Employers and health plans say they need the information to
improve health care delivery.
 * Designation of the Alaskan Wildlife Range as a national monument,
which would make oil drilling in the area virtually off limits.
Environmentalists want it, but Alaska's congressional delegation is staunchly
opposed.
 * The blacklisting from federal contracts of companies accused of
violating federal labor, environmental and health laws. Labor unions call this
a long-overdue reform. Business complains that the threat of losing
eligibility to bid for contracts can encourage business rivals or union
organizers to lodge false and frivolous complaints.
 The Jimmy Carter administration became renowned for stuffing the
Federal Register with 23,000 pages of regulations during the three months
before Ronald Reagan took office in 1981. The Mercatus Institute, a research
organization at George Mason University, estimates that the Clinton
administration is on course to fill 29,000 pages.

 'Rules, Rules, Rules,' Complain Republicans
 And congressional Republicans, despite controlling both the House and
the Senate, are powerless to stop the rules, which have the force of law. The
constitutional separation of powers between the branches of government
leaves Congress responsible for passing laws but gives the executive branch
exclusive authority to adopt the regulations it deems necessary to administer
them.
 That has left some Republican lawmakers fuming.
 "The Clinton administration's approach to government can be summed up
in three words: rules, rules, rules," said Rep. J.C. Watts Jr. of Oklahoma,
chairman of the House Republican Conference.
 "This administration's primary goal is to increase bureaucracy and the
size of government until it invades every cubicle and every workplace in
America. These last-ditch efforts are the last gasps of an administration bent
on increasing the size and scope of government at every level."
 And if Bush becomes president, he will not be able to simply cancel the
rules left behind by Clinton. Federal rules may take effect only after a
formal process: hearings, comments by interested parties, a proposed rule,
more comments and a final rule. The law protects that process.
 The new administration could order new rule-making processes that
could lead to modification or perhaps repeal of the old rules. But that might
take months or even years.
 The power of the presidency and the limits of Congress were vividly
illustrated earlier this month when the administration said it would restrict
commercial logging and road building in national forests. There was little
congressional Republicans could do except fulminate.
 Sen. Frank H. Murkowski (R-Alaska) called the administration's plan,
which would severely restrict timber harvests in the Tongass National Forest
in Alaska, an "outrageous exercise of arbitrary decision-making."
 Murkowski and three other Republican lawmakers--Sen. Larry E. Craig
of Idaho and Reps. Don Young of Alaska and Helen Chenoweth-Hage of
Idaho--sent a letter last week to the General Accounting Office, an
investigatory arm of Congress, calling for a review of the new forest rules
"under the provisions of the newly enacted Truth in Regulating Act."

Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics


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Nessie wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >In any system you will ALWAYS have an elite who due to personality
> disorders have an obsessive need for power and wealth.
>
> This is only true in the case of systems in which money is used and
> people respect power. There are numerous, successful cultures in which
> neither happen. Hierarchy is not inevitable.
>
> Read up. Start with People Without Government by Harold Barclay, ISBN
> 0-900707-75-5
>
> >The only way to minimize the effect of the Power Elite is to minimize
> the power of government over its citizens.
>
> The greatest amount off power exercised by the elites is exercised not
> through government but through economics. The government doesn't run
> this country. Corporations run this country. Corporations run this
> planet, and rule almost all of the people who live here.  They also run
> its various governments, all of whom are corporate puppets, except for
> the handful of remaining bolshevik states in which the government itself
> functions as a corporation. Even they are beholden to the IMF/MB/WTO de
> facto world government
>
> The governments are fronts for the corporations. The corporations are
> fronts for the plutocrats. We must take great care not to be decieved.
> make no mistake about it. We live in a global plutocracy.
>

YOU GO GIRL!!!

J2

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Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics

2000-11-30 Thread Nessie


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>In any system you will ALWAYS have an elite who due to personality
disorders have an obsessive need for power and wealth. 

This is only true in the case of systems in which money is used and
people respect power. There are numerous, successful cultures in which
neither happen. Hierarchy is not inevitable.

Read up. Start with People Without Government by Harold Barclay, ISBN
0-900707-75-5

>The only way to minimize the effect of the Power Elite is to minimize
the power of government over its citizens.

The greatest amount off power exercised by the elites is exercised not
through government but through economics. The government doesn't run
this country. Corporations run this country. Corporations run this
planet, and rule almost all of the people who live here.  They also run
its various governments, all of whom are corporate puppets, except for
the handful of remaining bolshevik states in which the government itself
functions as a corporation. Even they are beholden to the IMF/MB/WTO de
facto world government

The governments are fronts for the corporations. The corporations are
fronts for the plutocrats. We must take great care not to be decieved.
make no mistake about it. We live in a global plutocracy. 

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Nazi Origin of U.S. Gun Control


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Aleisha Saba wrote:
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> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Here you go Joshua (or is it Jaws2)..some of the idiots who created
> the so called myth..
> I reproduce the story - might add the NRA keeps this alive - Zionists
> however arm Israelies, and talk about a little tail trying to wag big
> Arab Nation Dogs..
>
> You see Joshua, this is AshkeNAZI Zionists at work, and this group knows
> the enemy..ADL who gave Moe Dalitz, Jewish Mafia and killer, an
> award..anything for the buck
>
> Saba

You get dumber every day. You're even dumber than Colleen.
It's a miracle. Hallelujah.

J2

>
> JPFO - Mission & Member Benefits
>
> Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc.
> P.O. Box 270143
> Hartford, WI 53027
> Phone (262) 673-9745
> Fax (262) 673-9746
> JPFO's Mission: to destroy "gun control" as an intellectually
> respectable position.
> Membership in Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) is
> open to ALL law abiding firearms owners who believe that ownership of
> firearms is a CIVIL RIGHT, not a privilege as a drivers license is. The
> annual dues is $20.00 and is deductible from your Federal Income Tax.
> The fact that we are a Jewish organization enables us to criticize
> Jewish Leaders such as the Anti -Defamation League and Elie Wiesel who
> support prohibitions on the civilian ownership of firearms. JPFO can
> criticize these people and organizations without fear of being labeled
> anti-Semitic. We also attack non Jewish gun prohibitionists such as
> Sarah Brady whose falsehoods erode the Constitution's protections that
> are most vital to all Americans. JPFO is a non profit educational
> organization that uses intellectual research in the fight to destroy
> "gun control."
> Right now, if you become a member, you will receive all 5 Gran'pa Jack
> booklets, and receive the latest Firearms Sentinel magazine. This is an
> $21.00 value. But it does not stop here. You will continue to receive
> your free subscription to the Firearms Sentinel, and receive our
> anticipated NEW releases of Gran'pa Jack booklets, free of charge. Time
> magazine would fail to tell you of our "Gran'pa Jack" cartoon booklet
> series. For more info on Gran'pa Jack booklets, go to: JPFO Books &
> Booklets
> We are offering all of the above by simply becoming a member of JPFO,
> which is $20.00 per year. That comes to 0.05 cents per day. Remember,
> your financial contributions to JPFO are tax deductible.
> To become a member, go to: Membership Information There you will see a
> printable member application, along with info on membership. If you
> wish, you can become a member using our Secure On-Line Application.
> Membership IS open to ALL Law abiding citizens.
> Unless we build a strong membership, and show that "gun-control" is a
> very evil public policy, "gun-control" will prosper. And the American
> gun owner will, slowly, be erased.
> As stated, our members also receive the Firearms Sentinel quarterly,
> past issues have included:
> The Battle of Athens Tenn. This article explains how McMinn County
> residents took up arms against a corrupt local government. This did not
> happen in the Colonial Era, it occurred in 1946. Some World War 2 vets
> were concerned about the way elections were controlled and decided to
> run candidates. When the local political bosses saw that they were going
> to lose they tried to steal the ballot boxes. This is when the shooting
> started. A synopsis of this article may be found at this Web Site.
> JPFO has published 2 books:
> The Mitzvah Sadly, the majority of Jews in America do not embrace all of
> the Bill of Rights for all Americans. The Mitzvah was written in the
> hope of changing that. A "mitzvah" is a good deed or a blessing. Many
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> Dial 911 and Die Anti-gun lobbyists get away with proposing to
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> to protect anyone.
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> in most places do not even have to come when you call.
> We will press our offensive against all those who, by disarming the
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> If you agree than JPFO is for you!
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1) Just the fact that Saba claims it, should cause you to assume that the
opposite is true.

2) As I originally stated... it's a righist myth.

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[CTRL] President, shmesident. Why all the fuss?


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 11/30/00

"To the extent that the United States was
governed by anyone during the decades
after World War II, it was governed by
the President acting with the support and
cooperation of key individuals and groups
in the executive office, the federal
bureaucracy, Congress, and the more
important businesses, banks, law firms,
foundations, and media, which constitute
the private sector's 'Establishment'."

- Samuel P. Huntington, in "The Crisis of
Democracy: Report on the Governability of
Democracies to the Trilateral
Commission," 1975

 The book that explained to the US Ruling Elites that YOU have too
 much influence in how the country is run.

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[CTRL] Presiden, shmesident. What's all the fuss. Pt.2


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   " Since trade ignores national boundaries and the manufacturer insists on
having
the world as a market, the flag of his nation must follow him, and the doors of
the
nations which are closed against him must be battered down. Concessions obtained
by
financiers must be safeguarded by ministers of state, even if the sovereignty of
unwilling nations be outraged in the process."

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[CTRL] The political parties." Not 350 billion dollars worth of difference."


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 PM Friday, October 27, 2000

 MILITARY SPENDING AND POLICY

WILLIAM HARTUNG, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms, http://www.progressive.org
President's fellow at the World Policy Institute, Hartung said today: "When
Gore and Bush have addressed the Pentagon budget, they have talked about
how much to increase it, not whether to do so. That is remarkable if you
consider that at $311 billion per year, the United States is already
spending more on its armed forces than the next seven largest military
powers combined. After dropping under the Bush administration and the
beginning of the Clinton administration, the Pentagon budget has increased
for the last several years. We are currently spending 22 times the combined
military budgets of the so-called rogue states: Iran, Iraq, North Korea,
Syria, Libya and Cuba. Our military budget is almost ten times that of
China. Gore and Lieberman have underscored that they plan to increase the
military budget by $10 billion per year, while Bush-Cheney plans 'only' a
$4.5 billion per year boost for the Pentagon. Meanwhile, the two major
parties have raked in millions from military contractors. January 2001 is
the 40th anniversary of President Dwight Eisenhower's farewell address to
the nation in which he warned of the 'undue influence' wielded by the
'military industrial complex.' His warning is even more apt today."

CECILIA ZARATE-LAUN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.colombiasupport.net
Co-founder and program director of the Colombia Support Network,
Zarate-Laun said today: "Both Bush and Gore agree on spending $1.3 billion,
mainly for military hardware, for the Colombian military. Ostensibly, this
is to fight against drug trafficking, but if you look closely, they are
ignoring the northern part of Colombia where the headquarters of the
paramilitaries -- which are heavily involved in drug trafficking themselves
-- are located. Instead, the U.S.-backed military effort is focusing on the
south of the country, where leftist guerrillas -- who only indirectly
profit from drug production -- control the territory. The U.S. is in fact
backing a counterinsurgency war."

SAM DAY, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Former editor of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Day said: "Bush and
Gore are for more military spending, only Nader is for decreasing the
military budget. Similarly, both Bush and Gore favor the continued bombing
of Iraq and the sanctions which are killing thousands of innocent Iraqis.
Bush wants a more vigorous missile defense program than Gore, while Nader
is against it altogether. Both Gore and Bush have been unflinching in their
backing of Israel... Gore is in favor of the comprehensive nuclear test ban
treaty; Bush is against, but has not talked about it much since foreign
policy has been marginal in the campaign."

For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167

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[CTRL] NM: Washington Post Probing Katherine Harris Sex Rumor


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Newsmax-Inside Cover

Wednesday November 29, 2000; 11:06 PM ET

Washington Post Probing Katherine Harris Sex Rumor


The Washington Post, which deep-sixed its Paula Jones exclusive
in 1994 because editors claimed the story wasn't solid enough, is
now digging for sexual dirt on Florida Secretary of State
Katherine Harris.

 On Nov. 22 Neal Travis, gossip columnist for the New York Post,
reported, "I hear that some major magazines - and I don't mean
the tabloids - are delving deeply into what, if any, relationship
exists between Florida Governor Jeb Bush and his secretary of
state, Katherine Harris."

Now the New York Observer's Ron Rosenbaum says insiders at the
New York Times are "buzzing" over a rumor about Harris' private
life. In this week's edition, he notes one cryptically written
sentence in a Nov. 20 Times report about the woman who certified
the presidential election for George W. Bush on Sunday:

 "She is reviled by some as Gov. Jeb Bush's ignorant puppet
(actually, far more unflattering terms have been used) and
heralded by others as an icon of grace and courage."

 Rosenbaum adds, "The rumor - which I'm told is now being
investigated by the Washington Post and other newspapers and
newsweeklies - [remains] buried in those parentheses for now,
except to add this item from Neal Travis' Nov. 22 column. ..."

 The Washington Post clearly has it in for Ms. Harris, allowing
its style reporter to savage her in a notorious profile 10 days
ago that claimed her makeup reflected an inability to do her job.

 The media's interest in rumors about Harris' private life seem
based on little more than its intense dislike of her. Reporters
and editors undoubtedly view her as someone whose steadfastness
cost the candidate they endorsed, Al Gore, the presidency.

 What's more, the elite media's full-bore pursuit of prurient
details in Harris' background seems even more hypocritical in
light of journalists' tepid treatment of even the most famous
Clinton sex scandals.

Paula Jones. Michael Isikoff, then with the Washington Post,
secured exclusive rights to her story for a period of three
months in February 1994. Though Isikoff had the facts dead to
rights, the Post declined to publish until Jones filed her sexual
harassment lawsuit, well after the paper's exclusive had lapsed.

 Four years later, the Jones case resulted in the first
impeachment of an elected president in American history.

Monica Lewinsky. Once again, Isikoff had the exclusive. But when
his new employer Newsweek (Isikoff left the Post over the Jones
debacle) delayed publication, cyberjournalist Matt Drudge broke
what would become the story of the decade.

Juanita Broaddrick. The Washington Post interviewed the Clinton
rape accuser months before the the Wall Street Journal actually
published the first print interview in which Broaddrick detailed
her attack. But once again, the Post sat on the story.

 The New York Times covered Broaddrick's rape charge in a single
report buried deep in the paper's inside pages. The Times story
turned out to be less of a hard news report than an explanation
of why Times editors didn't want to cover the story.

 Now the Times, the Washington Post and the major newsweeklies
are "buzzing" about Harris' sex life?

 You can bet the first inking they get of anything untoward about
the heroic Florida official will wind up on their front pages.


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[CTRL] Murder As A Conditioned Response.....

2000-11-30 Thread Martin F. Abernathy


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Why are there so many incidents in this country where people are
commiting acts of violence such as murder and arson, and after being
apprehended, they explainthat "voices' ordered them to commit these
crimes ?

If a person was targeted by someone (military/police/CIA ? ) using mind
control technology, and the target of the attack was unaware of the true
nature of the assault; it would be possible to produce some very
*interesting* results.

What would happen if an unsuspecting person was bombarded day and night
by voices and unpleasant noises which only s/he could hear and from
which there was no escape ? What if this targeted individual was
deprived of sleep for days on end by these voices/sounds ?

What if this "target" was also subjected to high levels of pain
(electromagnetically induced using top-secret high-tech weapons) day and
night for weeks/months on end ?

What if, after months of torture, the "voices" start telling the
"target" to KILL a particularperson(s) ? What if the "voices" tell the
target that if s/he does as s/he is told, the electronic
torture/harassment would stop ?

Is it possible to condition a person to respond to a certain STIMULUS
(an electromagnetically induced "voice" which only the target can hear,
and from which there is no escape) with a specific RESPONSE (e.g.
murder, arson, rape, assault) ?

Is it possible to cover-up the TRUE nature of these events by labelling
the person who was *forced* to commit the crime as "mentally ill"
(paranoid/schizophrenic/delusional) ?


The answers to these questions *might* be found in the incidents listed
below:


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DEKALB TEEN COMMITTED FOR KILLING TEACHER : YOUTH ALLOWED TO PLEAD
NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY IS ORDERED SENT TO STATE MENTAL
HOSPITAL FOR INDEFINITE PERIOD.

Atlanta Constitution , Thursday, March 25, 1999
by Celia Sibley
Page number B2

The Stone Mountain youth who shot and killed a DeKalb Alternative School
teacher in 1996 pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity Wednesday and
was committed to a state mental hospital indefinitely. A paranoid
schizophrenic, David Dubose will be evaluated annually and remain there
until doctors and the courts are convinced he is no longer a danger to
himself or the community.

Testimony before Superior Court Judge Linda Warren Hunter, who accepted
the plea, indicated there is little chance that Dubose, now 18, will be
released any time soon. Dubose continues to have delusions and
hallucinations, despite strong medication, mental health experts
testified Wednesday. He is terrified of worms in his body, hears voices
and was certain English teacher Horace "Bucky" Morgan was going to kill
him that day, Sept. 25, 1996, witnesses said.

His violent act came without warning. He called out to the English
teacher and then shot him in both shoulders, the back and abdomen. He
was standing over the body and starting to reload the gun to fire again
when a school official told him to put the gun down on the floor and
slide it to him, according to testimony. Once Dubose was restrained, Tim
Staley, a school disciplinary official, demanded, "Why did you do that?"
Staley testified Wednesday. The boy replied, "Mr. Staley, Dr. Morgan was
going to kill me, so I had to kill him first."




MAN CAN'T STAND TRIAL
Augusta Chronicle , Wednesday, May 10, 2000
Associated Press  PAGE   A07

PITTSBURGH - A court psychiatrist testified Tuesday that a man accused
of killing five people in a racially motivated shooting spree is
incompetent to stand trial. Dr. Christine Martone said Richard
Baumhammers, 34, is a paranoid schizophrenic who hears voices, is
delusional and suffers other mental problems. She said Mr. Baumhammers
seemed so detached in two interviews last week that she thought he would
not be able to help his lawyers in his own defense.

---


DEFENSE TELLS JURY THAT HAFNER IS SCHIZOPHRENIC
Morning Call (Allentown, PA) THURSDAY June 18, 1992
Page number  B09


Defense counsel Dennis Charles asked a Lehigh County jury yesterday to
acquit Michael Hafner outright or find him "not guilty by reason of
mental infirmity" for the shotgun slayings of his parents in their
Coopersburg home. He described Hafner as a schizophrenic who, for at
least a decade, was bedeviled by this "worst" mental disability.

Charles said one possibility is that Hafner did not do the killings. And
he noted his client denies having anything to do with them. But he said
that if Hafner did slay his parents, as the prosecution claims, he was
not mentally responsible for his actions. He said there was no intent on
the defendant's part to deprive his 71-year-old father and his
66-year-old mother of their golden years. "Michael had peculiar beliefs
that had no basis in reality. He saw dark shadows out of the corner of
his eyes and got strange messages from television. He has memory loss
and confusion."



SLAYING SUSPECT HEARD VOICES EX-WIFE SAYS HIS MENTAL CONDITION
DETERIORATED
Morni

[CTRL] NYO: WEISS: Penny-Loafer Republican Populists Mob Gore's House


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http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/frontpage6.asp

THE NEW YORK OBSERVER
November 30, 2000|10:15 AM


Penny-Loafer Republican Populists Mob Gore's House; This Time
G.O.P. is Playing Smarter Than in 1998

by Philip Weiss


America loves a mean winner. Katherine Harris in her tight red
bodice screwing Palm Beach County is the sexiest woman in the
country. George Bush floating up to the TV screen impaled waxily
on a tele-prompter is the most potent man. Monday, the day after
their spiteful victory speeches, I went to the corner of 34th and
Massachusetts in Washington, across from Vice President Al Gores
house, and a mother had brought her two tykes and their three
cousins in from suburban Virginia to wave signs at the losers
windows.

Little nothings, 5 to 9, waving mean, hateful signs they did
themselves on construction paper.

Al Gore Is a Baby, said the 7-year-olds sign. Cry Baby Gore
Cry, said the 9-year-old blond boys. The 9-year-old girls
said, Hey Gore I Have One Word For You, W! Taped to
branches blown down by the wind.

I talked to Mom. I brought them here so they can learn, and be
part of history. She was made-up and pretty. Had her hair done
to make it with history.

Who is Al Gore? I asked the kids.

The 5-year-old with a Bowie knife twisted up his square little
blue-eyed face, not knowing. A liar, said the 7-year-old. But
the 9-year-old boy in a fit of mildness said, The Vice
President.

Then a chant startedGet out of Cheneys house!and the kids
cut me off.

History lessons. Al Gore has never looked so good as he does
bloodied, holding on to a principle, fairness. The other night,
he finally seemed to get down off his emotional stilts and speak
with a hint of plainness. The same thing happened to the other
side during the Clinton scandals, when the martyrs started piling
up, from Waco on. Robert Livingston and Newt Gingrich resigned
over a principle, honorable losers. But Bill Clinton won in
meannesswon and rubbed it in, keeps rubbing it in. And now that
George Bush seems to have won, the Impeachment cup of bitterness
is coming round to the other side of the table. The Gore people
are humbled with the taste of bile in their mouths.

On Sunday, the two crowds across 34th Street chanted at one
another, spontaneous street theater conducted by two alien
cultures.

We Won! You Didnt! the big Bush crowd said with mirth and lust
from the southeast corner.

On the northeast corner the Gore people countered, D.U.I.!
D.U.I.! D.U.I.! D.U.I.!

This made the Bush people laugh, with mean slice grins on their
faces.

Nah Nah Nah NahNah Nah Nah NahHey He, Good Bye! they
sang. They banged pots with wooden spoons, blew noisemakers at
the Vice Presidents windows, trying to unnerve him. A man drove
up and down Massachusetts Avenue in a red van with Bush-Cheney
stickers, its back doors open, giant speakers almost falling out
the back, blaring disco music.

Disco? The music was so wrong, but the energy you couldnt argue
with. It was insurgent angry American energy.

Al Gore Pack Your Trash!

Get Out of Cheneys House!

I went around talking to the demonstration virgins, Republican
men in their 40s, standing on the curb with lopsided grins.

I didnt agree with what the hippies did when they went out and
protested and carried on like this, said a 48-year-old history
teacher. But they were entitled to do it, and it turned out they
were right.

Didnt wear Levis till I got to high school. Always wore penny
loafers and button-down collars. Always clean-shaven, said Greg
Foley, holding a 36-ounce gocup with a shaft-like straw.

Whats in the cup?

Coke on ice. Not a drop of liquor.

The Democrats got to hope we dont end up liking this, Barry
Wood, in a hooded sweatshirt, told me. We used to just watch it
on TV and get angry. Now if that changes, its going to be a
cruel world for them.

Im enjoying myself, said another man. No, Im not
embarrassed. Im too old to be embarrassed.

When I asked the Gore people who was on the Bush side of the
street, they said, Gun-lovers and Christian right. O.K., its
true, they sure were there, the gunnies and abortion people with
their horrible fetus pictures and stack-em-up offspring in
megastrollers, the people talking about sodomy. But something
else was there, too, the winds of change, that weird American
unsettling wind, glorious and violentremember how the Panthers
and acidheads scared you at demonstrations in the 70s? I met a
vegan on the Bush side, and two men who conducted a respectful
interview till one yelled at me, Were gay!

When you asked the Bush people who was on the other side of the
street, they said, The elite. The government class.

Good populist answers, and they were right, too. The Gore people
had a privileged, sleek air about them. A little too comfortable
to be demonstrating on a chilly afternoon. If you walked around
among them, you couldnt help looking at their clothes. You

[CTRL] NYO: CONASON: Right-Wingers Praise Antics of Bush Thugs


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http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/conason.asp

THE NEW YORK OBSERVER
November 30, 2000|10:21 AM


Instead of urging their disorderly minions to behave, George W.
Bush and his running mate Dick Cheney reportedly joked about the
Dade disruption.

Right-Wingers Praise Antics of Bush Thugs

by Joe Conason

During the nations last great political crisis, Republican
politicians and pundits repeated a certain phrase over and over
again, as if they were droning their gurus favorite mantra.
Whenever anyone thought to question their zeal for impeachment,
they would draw themselves up and intone those four righteous
words: "the rule of law."

Just how little that concept actually means to the Grand Old
Partys public philosophers and assorted goons, however, has
become painfully obvious over the past few weeks. Among
Republican partisans, respect for the rule of law dissolved as
soon as the legal tide turned against them in the Florida Supreme
Court.

Rather than accept the decision of that states highest legal
authority to reconcile contradictory statutes in favor of
ensuring that every ballot counts, the Bush campaign disparaged
the integrity of the seven honorable judges, encouraged
obstruction of their orders, and even organized a brief but
violent assault on the Miami-Dade County officials who were
attempting to comply with the courts decision.

That lawless incident was the "bourgeois riot" of Nov. 22,
incited on the airwaves by Rush Limbaugh and a Cuban-American
radio station, and then praised on the editorial page of The Wall
Street Journal the next day by Paul Gigot (who also regularly
appears on the very civilized and genteel PBS Newshour).
According to Mr. Gigot, the white riot that stopped the manual
counting of votes in Miami-Dade was sparked by a command to "shut
it down" from Representative John Sweeney of upstate New York. In
other words, an elected Republican Congressmanwho took an oath
to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United
Statesunashamedly incited a mob.

What Mr. Gigot omitted from his eyewitness account of that event
showed up in the pages of The New York Times, which reported that
"several people were trampled, punched or kicked" during a fracas
outside the office of the county supervisor of elections that
continued until sheriffs deputies restored order. Republican
thugs also assaulted the Democratic county chairman because they
mistakenly believed that he had absconded with a single ballot.

Neither George W. Bush, the self-styled President-elect, nor any
of his handlers and advisers, had a calming word to say in the
wake of the disgrace done in their campaigns name. And why would
they call for calm, when it was they and their allies on Capitol
Hill who recruited, transported, fed, housed and directed the
invasion of those "idealistic, enthusiastic young Republicans"?
Subsequent newspaper reports have established that many members
of the roving gang were in fact on the payroll of Republican
members of Congress, including at least five dispatched from the
office of House Majority Whip Tom DeLay.

Instead of urging their disorderly minions to behave, Mr. Bush
and his running mate Dick Cheney reportedly joked about the Dade
disruption over the speaker phone at a Thanksgiving dinner in a
local hotel, where their G.O.P. posse was celebrating its
victory.

The latest revelations about the all-white Republican mob lent a
touch of racial irony to CNN commentator Mary Matalins charming
description of the mostly black and entirely peaceful Miami
demonstrators led by Reverend Jesse Jackson as "rent-a-rioters."
Apparently African-Americans who know their place should only
raise their voices while singing and dancing at the Republican
convention. The "compassionate conservatives" have made sure that
tens of thousands of votes cast by citizens of all colors went
uncounted as they rammed through a dubious "victory" that thwarts
the intentions of the electorate.

Meanwhile, Mr. Bush has yet to explain why he signed an election
law in Texas that provides for manual re-counting of punch-card
ballots, dimpled and otherwiseand why he thinks that law should
be observed in his home state but flouted in his brothers state.
Mr. Cheney has some explaining to do, too, about his campaigns
casual flouting of a Constitutional provision that prohibits
electors in any state from voting for Presidential and Vice
Presidential candidates who reside in the same state. He and Mr.
Bush both reside in Texas, although Mr. Cheney attempted to
create a fictional domicile for himself in Wyoming, where he
hasnt actually lived for many years.

The rule of law is beautiful, of course, but thats no reason to
let it get in the way.

* * *

The recent death of Lars-Erik Nelson is devastating not only to
those of us who were privileged to know him, but to the
profession he loved. In an era that rewards gossips and windbags,
he stubbornly insisted on old-fashioned journalistic virtues. His
columns for

[CTRL] AP: Gore Says Fla. Can't Name Electors


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Gore Says Fla. Can't Name Electors

By Anne Gearan
Associated Press Writer
Thursday, Nov. 30, 2000; 10:11 a.m. EST


WASHINGTON  Al Gore's lawyers argued to the U.S. Supreme Court
Thursday that the Florida Legislature does not have authority to
appoint its own slate of presidential electors.

Congress set Election Day as a uniform national date for
selection of electors, Gore's lawyers wrote in the latest round
of filings.

The brief, filed a day ahead of a showdown session in the high
court, argued that Florida made its presidential choice on Nov.
7, "although by a vote so close and under a counting process so
flawed that the state's courts are still attempting to ascertain
... what the choice was."

Gore's paperwork was a response to a filing Tuesday By George W.
Bush, who wants the high court to forestall what he called a
potential constitutional crisis over appointment of electors.

Bush's separate reply is also due Thursday.

"Any state legislative attempt simply to appoint electors after
the fact would appear to be federally pre-empted," Gore's lawyers
wrote.

The Electoral College meets Dec. 18. Florida's 25 electoral votes
will be decisive, since neither Bush nor Gore has a majority
without them.

A legislative committee in Florida has held hearings this week
into the possibility of stepping into the disputed presidential
election. The Republican-led Legislature may decide to appoint
its own slate of electors to the Electoral College if the issue
is still unresolved by Dec. 12, the federal deadline for setting
a state's electors.

Democrats also say they are concerned the Legislature might act
if Gore prevails in his court challenges in Florida and captures
the current slate of electors.

Bush wants the Supreme Court to rule that Florida's high court
was wrong to extend a state deadline for counties to turn in
their vote totals, and that the results of late hand recounts
should be omitted from the state tally. That could roll the
election clock back in Florida and give Bush a 930-vote lead
instead of his current 537-vote margin.

The Florida court gave three counties an extra 12 days to recount
ballots by hand at Democratic request. One county finished, one
did not and one decided to stop for lack of time.

Because the recounts are over, at least for now, some scholars
have said the Supreme Court has little useful role in the
fast-changing legal drama at this point.

But in his court filings Tuesday, Bush urged the court to put its
stamp of finality on the election, and raised the possibility of
dueling slates of electors  one with the imprimatur of the
courts, the other set by the Legislature.

"By acting now to reject the Florida Supreme Court's unwarranted
intrusion into the regulation of the manner of appointing
electors, this court will eliminate the potential for a
constitutional crisis arising out of an unseemly conflict among
Florida's legislative and judicial branches regarding the
appointment of electors," Bush wrote then.

Copyright 2000 The Associated Press


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[CTRL] Smart crooks carry mobile phone guns


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from:
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q&pg=/et/00/11/30/wmob30.html
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rrq&pg=/et/00/11/30/wmob30.html">Smart crooks carry mobile phone guns
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Smart crooks carry mobile phone guns
By Hannah Cleaver in Berlin






'Mobile phone' guns seized [27 Oct '00] - Ananova


GERMAN police are being put on their guard when dealing with criminals
carrying mobile phones after border guards discovered some carrying
"phone-guns".

They appear to be normal mobile phones but can fire four bullets in quick
succession. Officers have been advised to be ready to draw their weapons when
stopping a suspect carrying a mobile phone. Birgit Heib, of the German
Federal Criminal Investigation Agency said: "You cannot tell these mobile
phones are weapons. It is only when you have one in your hand that you
realise that they are heavier."

Click to enlargeTen of the .22 calibre phone guns were confiscated in Germany
when a Croatian gun dealer was arrested trying to smuggle them into
Switzerland. The gun's bullets are fired by pressing the phone buttons from
five to eight. Konrad Freiburg, head of Germany's police union, said: "This
completely new kind of weapon presents a monstrous danger to every police
officer. It can only mean for my colleagues that they have to draw their
weapons whenever a person being checked pulls out their mobile phone."

Airports are increasing their security measures. Peter Dittel, from the
border police at Frankfurt airport, said: "Mobiles being carried in hand
luggage will now have to be checked more carefully."

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[CTRL] Suspicious Banking Activities:Possible Money Laundering by U.S .Corporations Formed for Russian Entities


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from:
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Click Here: http://cryptome.org/gao01-120.htm">Suspicious Banking
Activities: Possible Money L
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United States General Accounting Office







GAO





Report to the Ranking Minority Member,

Permanent Subcommittee on

Investigations, Committee on

Governmental Affairs, United States

Senate









October 2000

SUSPICIOUS BANKING

ACTIVITIES





Possible Money

Laundering by U.S.

Corporations Formed

for Russian Entities















GAO-01-120



United States General Accounting Office

Washington, D.C. 20548





October 31, 2000

The Honorable Carl Levin

Ranking Minority Member

Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations

Committee on Governmental Affairs

United States Senate

Dear Senator Levin:

On February 25, 2000, you expressed concern that foreign individuals or
entities can create U.S. corporations, open bank accounts in the name of the
U.S. corporations, and use these bank accounts to launder money through the
use of correspondent banking services.1 You identified certain corporations
that had engaged in suspicious banking activity indicating possible money
laundering. Each of these corporations had been formed in the state of
Delaware for unknown foreign individuals or entities. The suspicious banking
activity involved correspondent bank accounts and wire transfers of funds
from Eastern European banks through U.S. banks to other Eastern European
banks. You initially requested that we investigate these Delaware
corporations to determine how they had been formed.





1 A bank or other financial organization that regularly performs services for
another financial organization in a place or market to which the other does
not have direct access is referred to as a correspondent bank.



We began our investigation by reviewing relevant statutes regarding the
chartering of corporations in Delaware and records of the Delaware Division
of Corporations pertaining to the corporations that the Subcommittee
identified. We then contacted various registered agents for these
corporations and identified Euro-American Corporate Services, Inc., as a
Delaware-registered agent that together with a related company, International
Business Creations (IBC), created corporations for Russian brokers and
established bank accounts for those corporations. We brought this information
to the attention of the Subcommittee. It focused its request more narrowly on
Euro-American and asked us to (1) describe how it was formed and operated,
(2) determine how Euro-American entered banking relationships with Citibank
of New York and Commercial Bank of San Francisco, and (3) investigate the
extent to which these banking relationships resulted in suspicious activity.

We reviewed state of Delaware, Department of State, Division of Corporations'
files concerning the list of companies the Subcommittee had provided to us.
We contacted Delaware-registered agents for information about those companies
and interviewed the Division of Corporations' Incorporation Section
Administrator, who oversees corporation filings. We also spoke with a member
of the Delaware State Police Intelligence Division. In addition, we reviewed
relevant provisions of the Delaware Code. Further, we interviewed officials
of IBC, Euro-American, Citibank, and Commercial Bank. The Permanent
Subcommittee on Investigations, Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs,
issued subpoenas to obtain certain bank records of IBC, Euro-American, the
three principals of those corporations, and IBC/Euro-American-created
corporations. We analyzed those bank records. We conducted our investigation
from March to October 2000. It was performed in accordance with the quality
standards for investigations as set forth by the President's Council on
Integrity and Efficiency.





Results in Brief





Euro-American formed corporations pursuant to the General Corporation Law of
Delaware. The corporations were granted corporation status by the state after
Euro-American---as the registered agent---prepared, signed, and filed a
certificate of incorporation containing very limited information. For
example, Delaware law, as in some other states, has no requirement that the
certificate of incorporation contain information about the principals, the
principal place of business, or the specific business activity of the
corporation.

We also determined that Euro-American had formed three of the Delaware
corporations identified by the Subcommittee, as well as approximately 2,000
others, for Russian brokers. From 1991 through January 2000, more than $1.4
billion in wire transfer transactions was

[CTRL] Lockerbie acquittal plea is rejected


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ISSUE 2015  Thursday 30 November 2000

Lockerbie acquittal plea is rejected
By Auslan Cramb in Camp Zeist, Holland


THE judges hearing the Lockerbie trial yesterday rejected a motion to acquit
one of the two Libyans accused of the bombing.
Richard Keen, QC, defending, had argued that there was "no case to answer"
against his client and "not a jot" of evidence linking him to the bombing of
Pan Am Flight 103. But Lord Sutherland, the presiding judge, said the court
had to take the prosecution evidence "at its highest" and took four minutes
to reject the application that could have freed Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, 44.
The defence case will now proceed next week with both accused still facing
charges of murder, conspiracy to murder and breaching an aviation security
Act. Fhimah, in traditional white Libyan dress, leant forward while the judge
made the ruling, and sat back in his chair without expression when the motion
was refused.
Relatives of those who died welcomed the decision and said it would allow
them to hear in full the defence version of events, which will incriminate
Palestinian individuals and terrorist groups. Mr Keen had argued on Tuesday
that the case against Fhimah, an alleged Libyan secret agent, was entirely
circumstantial and had failed to tie him to most of the accusations in the
complex charges.
The judges considered the matter overnight and Lord Sutherland told the court
that the panel of three judges was not satisfied there was no case to answer.
He said they were rejecting the plea in particular because of entries in
Fhimah's diary, referring to the need to acquire Air Malta tags, his
association with the first accused and, "crucially", the evidence of Abdul
Majid Giaka, a Libyan double agent.
Giaka, who was dismissed during defence cross-examination as a Walter Mitty
character, told the CIA that he saw Fhimah carry a brown, Samsonite suitcase
through the airport at Malta on the eve of the bombing.
The charges against Fhimah and Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, 48, state
that they put a suitcase containing a bomb on an Air Malta flight from Malta
to Frankfurt, with tags routing it to London and Flight 103.
The trial continues.

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A commission created to examine the future of the National Reconnaissance
Office (NRO) wants that agency to set up a highly classified office to
spearhead advanced research.

The commission also concluded that the NRO -- arguably the largest
intelligence agency in the United States in budget terms -- should outsource
more of its satellite intelligence from commercial companies.

The National Commission for the Review of the NRO recommended that an Office
of Space Reconnaissance be established that would be granted top-secret
procurement status, with oversight by only the highest levels of government.

The plan is drawing criticism from some groups, who warn that increasing the
secretive nature, scope, and budget of the NRO without instituting new
accountability measures is risky.

Created in 1960 to manage space-based reconnaissance programs, the NRO today
commands a classified annual budget believed to exceed $6 billion, placing it
ahead of the CIA and the National Security Agency in fiscal size, although
not in head count. The NRO review commission, co-chaired by Sen. Bob Kerrey
(D-Neb.) and Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.), was created in response to a budget
scandal in 1995 to 1996 that prompted the resignation of the NRO's director
and deputy director after the organization was unable to account for more
than half its annual budget. The secrecy regarding the budget at the time was
deemed excessive.

In its executive summary, the commission report suggests the NRO faces
unprecedented threats to its mission from the global pace of technological
advancement and the agency's increasing exposure to public scrutiny. The
government did not publicly acknowledge the agency's existence until 1992,
although published reports on the NRO and its structure have surfaced
periodically for more than 20 years.

"Widespread knowledge of the NRO's existence and public speculation on how
NRO satellites are used [have] aided terrorists and other potential
adversaries in developing techniques of denial and deception to thwart U.S.
intelligence efforts," the report says. "Similarly, other technologies, such
as fiber-optic communications, render certain NRO capabilities obsolete."

The only way to maintain a lead in space technology, the commission
concluded, is to get key White House officials directly involved in the
creation of an Office of Space Reconnaissance, which would operate in
separate, secure facilities away from the NRO's Chantilly, Va., headquarters.
In short, the commission said the NRO must have the consistent attention of
the U.S. president, the secretary of defense, and the director of central
intelligence if it is to succeed.

Early spy satellite missions were successful precisely because the president
and the CIA director played a direct role in shepherding them through the
budget process, the report states.

"This would require that the secretary of defense grant this [new space
reconnaissance] office special exemptions from standard DOD acquisition
regulations," the report concludes. "It would rely heavily upon the DCI's
[director of central intelligence] special statutory authorities for
procurement.

"It would be under the direction of the NRO director but would operate in
secure facilities separate from NRO activities. It would create and defend a
separate budget element within the National Foreign Intelligence Program and
have its own security compartment."

One option the commission rejected was the development of an "NRO statute" in
Congress that would give the agency special authority in Washington. Getting
Congress involved in defining such a statute might make matters worse, the
commission concluded.

The Federation of American Scientists was quick to react to the report. Steve
Aftergood, director of FAS' Secrecy Project, warned that a call for expanding
the agency's size, without explicitly spelling out how accountability will be
improved, lays the groundwork for future abuses of the classification
process.

"There is a good rule of thumb that if you are going to increase the power
and authority of a government organization, then you also need to increase
its accountability accordingly," Aftergood said. "The commission proposes to
increase the NRO's budget and procurement authorities but fails to provide
any corresponding increase in accountability."

The commission cited recent terrorist acts, such as the Nairobi embassy
bombing and the attack on the U.S.S. Cole, as evidence that intelligence
needs have expanded significantly in scope and complexity since the end of
the Cold War. But the absence of a unified adversary like the Soviet Union
has made it difficult for the agency to get the budget it needs, the
com

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LONDON, Nov 29 (AFP) -

An Internet transmission of pop star Madonna's live show here smashed the
record for webcast audiences with nine million people logging on to see it,
organisers claimed on Wednesday.

That trumped the previous record of three million, for a webcast of a concert
given by former Beatle Paul McCartney last year.

MSN, the Internet subsidiary of Bill Gates' Microsoft, transmitted the
concert, which Madonna put on for 3,000 fans at the Brixton Academy venue in
south London on Tuesday night.

They installed 21 cameras inside the venue to relay her half-hour performance
live to two websites.

However, reports of technical problems took some of the shine off what had
been billed as the "biggest Internet event ever."

"The sound, when you could get it, was fine, but within seconds, gremlins
would rear their heads and ruin it all," complained a reviewer in the Daily
Express newspaper.

"The screen would go blank, you would walk away and then all of a sudden,
there she would be, singing her heart out again."

According to the Independent newspaper, many fans were initially unable to
access the webcast because Microsoft's Internet server was overloaded by the
huge demand.

Once logged on, the software needed to view the webcast was cumbersome and
took an age to download, said the newspaper.

"Once upon a time you just turned on the television to watch a concert," it
said. "Now you have to be a software engineer able to understand digital
rights management."

Microsoft is reputed to have spent 30 million pounds (42 million dollars, 50
million euros) promoting the concert.

Madonna, meanwhile, is likely to have made a killing from the merchandise
advertised over the Internet.

Committed fans could pick up rhinestone-studded tank tops decorated with the
logo from "Music", her current album, for 87 pounds and cigarette cases for
37 pounds.

Also on sale are yellow baby outfits for 10 pounds, presumably a concession
to the fact that the 42-year-old singer recently gave birth to her second
child, Rocco.

As to the concert itself, most of the reviewers who managed to get hold of
the sought-after tickets were suitably awestruck, though one or two were put
out by the brevity of her performance.

Madonna performed a total of six songs, mostly releases from the "Music"
album, and threw in a nostalgic rendition of her 1980s hit song "Holiday".

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28 November 2000





It is has become an increasingly heard refrain amongst market pundits that
finality and the elimination of political certainty is a more important
determinant of future stock market health, than a victory for George W. Bush
or Al Gore per se.  Each day on CNBC countless portfolio managers and market
strategists march before the cameras parroting the conventional optimism that
stocks will resume their upward trajectory the moment we conclusively
determine who the next President will be. Nor does the prospect of political
paralysis frighten these Panglossians.  Splits in the legislative branch will
ensure the maintenance of the Washington gridlock that financial markets
prefer, goes the argument.  This line of reasoning largely assumes the status
quo as far as economic policy making which, given their view of the current
buoyant state of the US economy, means less scope for political activism that
could undermine such prosperity.

 We wonder.  In a recent International Perspective, we cited the example of
Japan to illustrate that political gridlock can take on a much more malignant
quality if it develops in the midst of a deteriorating economic environment
in which more bold, pro-active policy making is required.   Indeed, it has
been our contention that the benign qualities ascribed to political gridlock
rest on two faulty assumptions: first, that the United States economy is
fundamentally sound, and, second, that the current expansion is largely
unthreatened in the absence of a major change in fiscal and monetary policy
(more likely in the context of political gridlock, according to this
analysis). In these circumstances, the thinking goes, no new policy is good
policy.

 We have long questioned the first assumption, instead characterising the
United States as a bubble economy in which apparent prosperity has been
largely fuelled by increasingly unsustainable credit expansion and record
private sector debt accumulation.   Given this inherently unstable condition,
we have long felt it possible that a precipitating event (possibly the
aftermath of the election itself) might be sufficient to engender a change in
investor psychology which would begin to refocus attention on these
vulnerabilities in the US economy, thereby creating a dynamic that adversely
affects the economic framework in which the new administration has to
operate.

 Columnist Jeff Madrick framed this issue very clearly in a recent New York
Times report:

 The presidential campaign was fought over how to distribute the spoils of
prosperity, but the new president will face different economic conditions
from those expected only a few months ago. The pace of economic growth is
slowing significantly, and some economists are beginning to discuss the
possibility of recession in 2001. The unemployment rate could rise, and the
projected budget surplus could dissipate. Moreover, the record trade deficit
and unusually high value of the dollar, which so many economists have brushed
aside as unimportant, could well tie the hands of the nation's policy makers.

 The case for slower growth begins with falling stock prices and rising oil
prices. Both are inhibiting consumer and corporate spending and raising the
costs of doing business. But it does not end there. With individual and
corporate debt so high, any slowdown in the growth of income can result in
cutbacks in spending to meet debt service payments. After having invested so
much in information technology, business may also be nearing the saturation
point, and consumers appear to be slowing their buying of personal computers.

 The evidence is, of course, not conclusive, but retail sales in general, and
auto sales in particular, weakened this fall; housing levelled off; capital
spending slowed; and profits were disappointing at many companies, including
high-technology leaders like Dell Computer.

 Of course, the bulls counter, there is always Alan Greenspan, ready to cut
rates at the first sign of market distress.  But the sheer quantities of debt
now outstanding in the US economy have rendered this instrument less
effective as the cycle has matured.  Aggressive monetary stimulus
increasingly has had an effect akin to pumping air into a leaking tire,
rather than expanding the overall economy.  As Madrick notes, rate reductions
had more impact when rates themselves were substantially higher, and debt
levels much lower, setting off a process of substantial mortgage refinancing
that provided so much buying power throughout the last decade.  By contrast,
Brian Reading of Lombard Associates has recently indicated that corporate
debt to GDP ratios in America are now at

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] INSTANTANEOUS TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION






I tendered a political science thesis entitled INSTANTANEOUS
TECHNOLOGICAL REVOLUTION my senior years at CORNELL COLLEGE
circa 1970.

Observing the obscene distribution of wealth in this country
and the world and the seemingly cancerous behavior of
depriving so many of our species the basic necessities to
live healthy lives and the obvious measures that the
oligarch families have taken to perpetuate this condition I
postulated that, as remote as it might be, if the family
oligarchs were ever over turned that it was unlikely that
they would ever reassert this order.

I also observed a public at the total mercy of corporate
mass media interlocked with the oil and banking industries
that by nature had to direct the rank and file to overt
purposes while short circuiting those instructions at the
top level.  The reporters are to to find narcotics
corruption but the publishers do not print the biggest
stories for one example.

My thesis was that this was an innately unstable system
capable of going renegade --- ie actually reporting real
unfiltered news.  As I observed improvements in
communications technology I foresaw that these innovations
would increase the instability.  I projected that triggered
by some unforeseen event INSTANTANEOUS TECHNOLOGICAL
REVOLUTION would be possible and that in historical
reference it would be practically instantaneous and
bloodless and unpredictable.

I personally favor the Baby Bush presidency.  Baby Bush is
not a mental giant.  He goes to pieces when ever he has to
say something that was not scripted by his dad's flack.  He
has looked like a dear caught in the headlamps from the
start of this campaign.  His handlers have not permitted
journalists to speak with the candidate and none have cried
WIMP!!

I think the Baby Bush presidency is giving the SKULL AND
BONES enough rope to hang themselves.  It will be far easier
explaining to a not too bright American public how the SKULL
AND BONES runs the presidency with Bush in office rather
than Gore.  Joe Six Pack does not appreciate the elegant
arguments Hopsicker makes about Tony Cohelo being the CIA
cocaine
Bush/ENTERPRISE cut-out for Barry Seal.  It is so much
easier pointing the SKULL AND BONES finger at Bush.

I expect the presidency under this Mongoloid idiot to be
intolerable.

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Putting aside my suspicion that JUDICIAL WATCH is another
intelligence front, this post below certainly adds weight to
my other suspicion that this TOO CLOSE TO CALL SKULL AND
BONES ELECTION is contrived by both candidates working
together.

Brian Downing Quig








Why are both parties afraid of an independent
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AL GORE/GEORGE W. BUSH VS. JUDICIAL WATCH 

Politicians Try To Prevent Judicial
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(Miami, FL) Al Gore and George W. Bush
are trying in court to prevent Judicial Watch from counting disputed
ballots from the presidential election in Palm Beach. Judicial Watch
began examining the disputed ballots at 10:00 am today. Circuit Court
Judge Jorge LaBarga ordered Palm Beach to give access to Judicial Watch
under Florida state law, which allows citizens to inspect ballots.
Johnson Lambert & Co., a public accounting firm with expertise both
in counting ballots and in fraud, will help oversee the Judicial Watch
effort. 

Gore is seeking to deny Judicial Watch volunteers access to over 3,300
ballots that the Gore forces believe are in dispute. Gore is seeking to
remove the 3,300 disputed ballots to Leon County, where they are in court
contesting aspects of the Florida presidential election. Gore does not
object to Judicial Watch examining any of the other ballots in Palm
Beach. (Under Florida state law, Judicial Watch will not be able to touch
ballots, but merely examine them.) George W. Bush is also seeking to
prevent Judicial Watch access to the ballots at this time.

Our examination is continuing as scheduled in Palm Beach. The fact that
both Gore and Bush are trying to stop us shows Judicial Watch must be
doing something right. What are Al Gore and George W. Bush afraid of? Our
examination is non-partisan, independent and under the guidance of a
certified public accounting firm. This ballot examination process will be
followed according to law -- and Al Gore and George W. Bush should stop
trying to thwart the American people s access to ballots. The American
people are rightfully tired of these legal games, stated Judicial Watch
President Tom Fitton.

Over 400 citizens from across the country have volunteered to help
Judicial Watch count the disputed and other ballots, such as absentee
military ballots. Judicial Watch

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Professor Thomas Hoban: Biotech's Leading Propagandist/Pollster in
the USA
PR Watch  Volume 6 #4 Fourth Quarter 1999

The Professor Who Can Read Your Mind

by Karen Charman

Tom Hoban is a man with a mission: to convince people to embrace
genetically
engineered food. I had the opportunity to experience this firsthand
at the
Biotechnology Industry Organization (BIO) annual conference in New
York City in
June 1998 while we were lining up for lunch. Seeing the press pass
dangling
around my neck, he made a beeline for me and proceeded to attempt to
educate me about the wonders of food biotechnology.

That might not seem strange--plenty of people push biotech--but Hoban
is
not a public relations flack or salesman at a company peddling biotech
food. He is a
professor in the sociology department at North Carolina State
University
(NCSU).
Hoban specializes in consumer behavior and the psychology of
conflict, a
position that gives him a veneer (but only a thin veneer) of
objectivity.

Industry promoters widely regard Hoban as the pre-eminent expert in
consumer
attitudes on gene-altered food, and he is listed in several industry
source
guides for journalists. Over the last ten years, he has conducted a
number
of government-and industry-funded surveys, which he says consistently
show
"two-thirds to three-quarters of U.S. consumers are positive about
food
biotechnology." Considering the controversy swirling around biotech
food
overseas and the likelihood that it will erupt on these shores, such a
finding must be comforting to industry. His data, however, is
questionable.

Hoban says he helped design the questions in a much-touted consumer
survey
conducted for the International Food Information Council (IFIC) but
carried
out by the Republican political and polling firm, the Wirthlin Group.
The
survey was first done in March 1997 and then repeated in February
1999,
ostensibly so that a trend could be established. Besides trumpeting
strong
support for genetically engineered food, the nine-question survey
indicates
that consumer awareness of biotech food is low. It also claims there
is
little support for labeling biotech foods.

The problem with the survey, however, is that the questions it asked
are loaded
with language designed to bias the answers. Examples include:

"How likely would you be to buy a variety of produce, like tomatoes or
potatoes, if it had been modified by biotechnology to taste better or
"fresher?"

"How likely would you be to buy a variety of produce . . . if it had
been
modified by biotechnology to be protected from insect damage and
required
fewer pesticide applications?"

"Biotechnology has also been used to enhance plants that yield foods
like
cooking oils. . . . Would this have a positive effect, a negative
effect, or no
effect on your purchase decision?"

"Some critics . . . say that any food produced through biotechnology
should be
labeled even if the food has the same safety and nutritional content
as other
foods. However, others, including the FDA, believe such a labeling
requirement has no scientific basis, and would be costly and
confusing to
consumers. Are you more likely to agree with the labeling position of
the FDA
or with its critics?"

James Beniger, a communications professor at the University of
Southern
California and past president of the American Association for Public
Opinion
Research, reviewed the IFIC survey and said it is so biased with
leading
questions favoring positive responses that any results are
meaningless.
UCLA communications professor Michael Suman agreed, adding that the
questions "only talk about the food tasting better, being fresher,
protecting food from insect damage, reducing saturated fat and
providing
benefits. It's like saying 'Here's biotechnology, it does these great
things for you, do you like it?'" The results might be different,
Suman
offers, if it contained questions biased in the other direction such
as:
"Some people contend that some foods produced from biotechnology cause
higher rates of cancer. If that is so, what effect would that have on
your
buying decision?"

Ignorance is bliss

Hoban's rap, either while presenting a paper at a biotech industry
conference or
in a one-on-one interview, is equally questionable. It goes something
like
this (my paraphrase): "The public is much more positive about food
biotechnology than the activists would have you believe. Most people
don't
know much about
biotechnology, but that's because it is not important to them.
Americans--unlike
Europeans who have been through traumatizing food scares--have great
trust
in the public

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JFK: the assassin who failed

by Philip Kerr
27th November 2000


Lee Harvey Oswald had a predecessor: a man who plotted
to kill Kennedy three years before Dallas. Philip Kerr
unearthed the story

Wednesday 22 November 2000 marked the 37th anniversary
of the death of John F Kennedy. This year, the anniversary
has been largely overshadowed by electoral events in
Florida, just as last year it was overshadowed by the death
in an air crash in July 1999 of his son, John F Kennedy Jr.

Although I was only seven at the time, my own memory of
that fateful Friday night is quite clear - and amusingly
mundane: the BBC had blacked out the Harry Worth show
as a mark of respect, a course of action that, to my young
mind, seemed quite out of proportion to something that had
happened in a place as far away as Dallas, Texas.

As I grew older, however, I started to become fascinated
with the assassination - and when I started writing novels, I
wondered how I might write a novel about it. I decided it
would be about a fictional attempt to kill JFK at some time
before 22 November 1963. There would be no Lee Harvey
Oswald, no Jack Ruby, no Dallas, not even a grassy knoll -
just a lone assassin, with a nod to Frederick Forsyth's
Jackal, bent on killing Kennedy in the earliest days of his
presidency. It would be called The Shot.

Incredibly, in the course of my meticulous research, I
discovered that there had been a real attempt to kill
Kennedy as early as December 1960; and that, but for John
Jr, JFK would have been assassinated before he was even
inaugurated. I discovered that even well-informed
Americans older than myself did not seem to know about
this.

This is the story of the first attempt to kill President-elect
John F Kennedy.

JFK won the 1960 election, defeating Richard Nixon by the
slenderest of majorities. Later on, Kennedy told a friend, the
journalist Ben Bradlee, that the election had cost his hugely
rich father, Joe, $13m - about $100m in today's money. Joe
Kennedy is best remembered as being the US ambassador
to Britain at the beginning of the Second World War. What
is less well known is that Joe, a former bootlegger, was
closely connected to the world of organised crime. Cardinal
Francis Spellman of New York once described him as "a
truly evil man". Joe would have liked to have been
president himself. But he had too many skeletons in his
closet. And there were too many others who shared
Spellman's low opinion of him.

One such man was Richard P Pavlick, a 73-year-old retired
postal worker from Belmont, New Hampshire, who had a
history of psychiatric problems. His neighbours, however,
mostly saw him as somewhat vocal at town meetings and
something of a local eccentric. He was also a prolific writer
of letters to the newspapers; and his favourite subject was
that Joe Kennedy was trying to buy the presidency for his
son. There was nothing Pavlick could do to prevent
Kennedy being elected, but he decided he could stop him
from ever being inaugurated as America's 35th president.

It is a peculiarity of American politics that an incumbent
president does not assume the office, nor occupy the
White House, until he has been inaugurated about ten
weeks later. Kennedy had won the election on 9 November
1960, but he would not be safely in the White House until
after 20 January 1961. The young president-elect spent the
intervening period at various Kennedy family homes in
New York, Georgetown, Hyannis Port and Palm Beach in
Florida, putting together his Cabinet.

In planning The Shot, I visited all of these properties,
equipped with a rifle-scope, to consider their fictional
feasibility as potential assassination sites, in the knowledge
that Pavlick had done the same. Finally, he decided that
Palm Beach provided him with the best opportunity, not
least because Kennedy was there so much. Kennedy
worshipped the sun, not to mention the local ladies, who
dubbed him "Mattress Jack" for obvious reasons. So JFK
enjoyed the last weeks of 1960 at 1095 North Ocean
Boulevard in Palm Beach, sunning himself, swimming,
playing golf, offering people jobs in his administration and
sneaking out of the house under Jackie's nose to get laid in
a private suite at the nearby Breakers Hotel.

The house was called La Guerida when Joe Kennedy
bought it for $100,000 back in the early 1930s. From the
road, there is very little to see - just an archway with a
heavy oak door in a big white wall and, beyond, the glimpse
of a white stucco corner and a red tile roof amid a whole
plantation of wind-bent palm trees.

The

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by Sherman H. Skolnick





In the beginning, this nation was referred to as the United States IN
America. Somewhere along the way, this country came to be called the United
States OF America. The American Civil War had something to do with it. So did
the federal law in 1863 authorizing NATIONAL banks. Then there were the
post-Civil War flip-flop decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court regarding
Greenbacks, U.S. Currency.

The U.S. Constitution took away from the States any right the inhabitants may
have thought they had as independent states. For example, notice these
provisions of the Constitution, Article I, Section 9

"No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State. No
Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the
Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or
from, one State be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another."

More than whispers. Some are talking about the idea of an illegitimate
CENTRAL GOVERNMENT in the United States. The consequence, so far, of the year
2000 Presidential Election is that one candidate won the plurality of the
popular vote and the other claims to have won the Electoral Vote. Even those
who are not conspiracy theorists have to recognize historical facts. The
ruling elite in New York financed Leon Trotsky and the creation of the Soviet
Union, in 1917, with V. Lenin and later, Josef Stalin. And following World
War Two, the American aristocracy spread the anti-Soviet feeling in the U.S.
with the Red Scare. it was a way of temporarily strengthening the U.S.
central government and the perception of a "foreign enemy". All along, of
course, the enemy of the ruling elite was actually the common folk of
America.

Among the cross-currents have been other events. Since at least the War of
1812, Great Britain has vowed to overthrow the American central government
and return this continent and its inhabitants to being British subjects in
puppet colonies. The Brits fanned the flames of a natural and regional
hostility between the South and the North, leading to the American Civil War.
British ships ran the Union blockade, to bring weapons to the Confederacy.
[After the war, a key official of the Confederacy fled to England and lived
out his life there.] The Brits played a role in the political assassination
of President Abraham Lincoln. In the 36 years after the War Between the
States, as southerners call it, we had two presidents who greatly resisted
British interference with the industrial and financial developments and
aspirations of the U.S. One President, James Garfield, was assassinated with
British connivance and falsely blamed on a lone assassin. The other, was
President William McKinley, likewise so murdered and blamed on a "lone nut".
[I recognize that you may have read otherwise in your high school U.S.
history textbook. And maybe relied on the falsely published accounts that a
"lone assassin" killed President John F. Kennedy in 1963, his brother Bobby
running for President in 1968, and their friend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.,
murdered as well in 1968.]

By the late 1980s, the world government promoters, and their secret
societies, set about to destroy their creature, the Soviet Union. They did
this by attacking their government structure, fomenting natural, ethnic, and
religious hostilities between the far-flung provinces. And by attacking their
poorly designed banking system and currency. The Western press began calling
the warring pieces of the Soviet Union, as breakaway provinces. These
portions of the U.S.S.R. undermined the Central Government in Moscow, by
refusing to forward taxes and fees that all along financed the Soviet empire.
The American CIA supplied modern weapons and financing to the opposition to
the Soviets in their war against Afghanistan. The outcome, somewhat like the
inglorious ending to the U.S. intervention in the Viet Nam civil war,
resulted in great loss of confidence in the Central government. The result as
war-losers, disgruntled, the soldiers of the Red Army at times have gone
unpaid and live as vagabonds in tents.

The British Monarchy, carrying out their anti-U.S. Constitution policies,
have set about to effectively dismember, dismantle, and discredit the
American Central Government in Washington. In the simplest explanation,
William Rockefeller Clinton was chosen by the secret Bilderberg Group of
world elitists to be president. As a then rather obscure southern governor,
he was invited to be anointed at their 1991 meeting in Germany. A CIA darling
since college age, he was put in 1992 as a massive fraud on the American
people, to run against his mentor, the former commissar of America's secret
political police, Ge

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Wednesday November 29 12:23 PM ET
NAACP Plans Suit Over Voting Biases 

By SHEILA HOTCHKIN, Associated Press Writer 

BALTIMORE (AP) - NAACP President Kweisi Mfume said
Wednesday that the nation's largest civil rights
organization plans to sue over alleged voting
irregularities in the presidential election in
Florida.

Mfume said the NAACP will sue the state and several
counties, seeking unspecified relief. The NAACP also
is asking local chapters to hold hearings into whether
voting irregularities occurred in other states.

The NAACP president said he already has presented the
Justice Department (news - web sites) with complaints
of voting irregularities, but the NAACP has received
only one telephone call in response, simply thanking
him for the referral.

``This is a strange stance from this Justice
Department, which continues to get colder as it nears
the end of its term,'' Mfume said.

The NAACP hopes to sue soon, perhaps by next week,
Mfume said.

The civil rights group also plans to organize
demonstrations nationwide protesting the treatment of
minority voters on Election Day, Mfume said.

Two days after the election, Mfume called for sweeping
federal involvement in the Florida presidential race,
asking the Justice Department to investigate
complaints of election irregularities and for federal
marshals to supervise the ballot recount.

NAACP field workers in Florida alleged then that four
ballot boxes in heavily black precincts, including the
Richmond Heights section of Miami, were not picked up.
Mfume also cited several other incidents at the time,
which he said suggested efforts to dilute the minority
vote in Florida.

*

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Gazette Staff/ New York City

GVG EXCLUSIVE! 
CHENEY'S WYOMING RESIDENCY IS CHALLENGED IN NEW
FEDERAL LAWSUIT

A federal lawsuit is being filed today by 1,915
citizens from all fifty states in the United States
District Court for the Western District of Texas,
Austin Division, challenging the legal status of Dick
Cheney's Wyoming residency that he declared in July
2000.

According to attorney Phillip J. Berg, of
Philadelphia, PA., who is representing the citizens
filing this action, Mr. Cheney "does not live in
Wyoming and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney both reside
in Texas." 

The lawsuit cites the Twelfth Amendment to the
Constitution which states that state electors cannot
vote for presidential ticket where both candidates are
"inhabitants of the same state."

Mr. Berg claims "the electors of Texas cannot vote for
two people from the same state. The court is being
asked to nullify the electoral votes from Texas since
Mr. Cheney does not meet the residency requirements in
Wyoming. There is no question that Mr. Cheney has
been and still is an inhabitant of the state of
Texas."

Wyoming law does specify that establishing residency
does require twelve months to finalize, even if, as in
Mr. Cheney's case, one has lived in the state in the
past as a legal resident. Mr. Cheney, originally from
Wyoming, moved to Dallas, Texas in 1995 when he became
Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton Company. Mr.
Cheney has also received special tax credit, under the
Texas Homestead Exemption Act, on his mansion in
Dallas
due to his current Texas residency status.

Mr. Berg thinks the law will prevail and that "George
W. Bush, Dick Cheney and James Baker have been talking
about following the Constitution and not creating new
laws, so I'm curious to how they will react to this
lawsuit, which goes to the heart of their argument of
following the Constitution."

*

Ballots are fed into the counting machine in the Seminole County city 
of Sanford on Nov. 9.


Another supervisor scrutinized
Seminole County prepares for its close-up, and an elections official 
faces accusations of needling Democrats and illegally abetting the 
GOP.

- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Jake Tapper

Nov. 28, 2000 | TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- In Florida, where all local 
politics is national, a losing Democratic candidate for commissioner 
in Seminole County has a grievance with the election supervisor that 
suddenly could have far greater importance. 

Dean Ray, 40, says that election supervisor Sandy Goard would not 
allow him to fix the petition signatures he submitted to her in order 
to run for office. And that complaint has some significance since 
Goard, a Republican, is being sued by a local Democrat, in a case set 
to be heard Wednesday in Leon County Circuit Court, that alleges that 
Goard illegally allowed GOP operatives to fill in crucial missing 
information on Republican absentee bal

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Scientists say anti-Ebola vaccine works on monkeys


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In a message dated 11/29/2000 11:14:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< What a racket!  Develop a new mysterious never before seen variant of
disease
 and get rich selling the vaccine.  And while they're at it they get
neurotoxic
 substances such as aluminum hydroxide, fluoride, aspartame, and mercury in
our
 bodies, as well as genetically engineered viruses. >>

Ebola isn't new.  When I was about l4 years old, I read a book by Attilio
Gatti.  In it he spoke of the "tabu lands" a huge area in about the center of
what was then the Belgian Congo.  The natives refused to enter the area.
They said that if one went into the tabu lands, he and his entire family
died, sometimes his entire village.  The book even showed a map of the area.
When ebola became noticed and the brains that try to discover what's going
on, I managed to get the book (months of interlibrary loan searching) and
send copies of the pertinent pages to Atlanta.  At the time they were
searching for the carrier.  I imagine they threw my stuff into the first
trash can, but I could relax, knowing I had offered it.   I don't believe
they've discovered yet which creature passes it along without having any
problems of its own.  Gatti wasn't interested in diseases; he's the guy that
finally brought out the okapi (which had been considered a figment of some
native's imagination).  He wanted to go into the tabu lands to search for
other species, and couldn't get the natives to go there no matter what he
offered.   Well, seems our Navajo knew about hanta virus.  Maybe the brains
should consider anecdotal information.  Prudy

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Wednesday November 29 8:19 PM ET

Energy Dept: Secrets Wrongly Mailed

By DAVID PACE, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Already shaken by security lapses, the Energy
Department is now acknowledging that 15 percent of classified
documents mailed from three government nuclear laboratories last
year went to addresses not approved to receive such material.

Department officials insist the errant mailings, disclosed in a
new report from the agency's inspector general, did not
compromise security and that the problem has been fixed.

But that assessment was challenged Wednesday by the Senate
Intelligence Committee chairman.

``They don't know that,'' said Sen.  Richard Shelby, R-Ala.
``You can rationalize, justify just about anything, but at the
end of the day, you don't know what might have been lost.  You
have to fear the worst in a situation like that.''

The Energy Department keeps a computer database of addresses that
are eligible to receive classified data. Anyone mailing
classified data is supposed to check this list to ensure the
address is approved.

The report said the mailings to unauthorized addresses were
discovered in May, shortly after two computer disks containing
nuclear secrets disappeared from the Los Alamos National
Laboratory in New Mexico.  The disks reappeared three months
later behind a copying machine at the lab.

Department security officials alerted by the agency's inspector
general acknowledged that the mailings violated department policy
but concluded that no classified information was compromised.
They blamed contractors who did not have access to the list of
approved addresses.

But Inspector General Gregory H.  Friedman disagreed.  In his
report to Energy Secretary Bill Richardson, he blamed a
``breakdown in the execution of internal controls designed to
prevent transmittal of classified documents to inappropriate
recipients.''

Richardson's spokesman said agencies involved have recommended
ways to correct the shortcomings.  ``I'm confident that General
Gordon ...  will work to ensure the fixes are made so the
problems and errors are not repeated,'' spokesman Stu Nagurka
said.  Air Force Gen.  John Gordon heads the National Nuclear
Security Administration, created by Congress last year to oversee
the labs.

In a Nov.  14 memo to Friedman, Deputy Energy Secretary T.J.
Glauthier said the department is developing new rules under which
contractors could lose some contract payments and be fined up to
$100,000 if they fail to protect classified information.  He said
the new rules will be announced by May 31.

The investigation examined 177 mailings of classified documents
last year from the Los Alamos Nuclear Weapons Laboratory, the
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., and
the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland, Wash.

Investigators found that 27 of the mailings, or about 15 percent
of those reviewed, were sent to other federal agencies or federal
contractors that were not in the database of approved addresses.

Shelby has been an outspoken critic of security lapses at Energy
Department labs.  Last year, Los Alamos fired scientist Wen Ho
Lee (news - web sites), who was later indicted on 59 federal
felonies for improperly transferring nuclear secrets to portable
computer tapes.

Lee pleaded guilty to one count in September and was set free
after he agreed to cooperate with investigators searching for
missing computer tapes with nuclear weapons data.  FBI (news -
web sites) agents searched for the tapes this week in a landfill
near the Los Alamos lab.

The case against Lee stemmed from an investigation of possible
Chinese espionage at Los Alamos, but the Taiwan-born Lee denied
spying and was never charged with espionage.  While Lee was
imprisoned, the two computer disks disappeared and then
reappeared at the lab.

An FBI investigation into those computer disks is continuing.
The University of California, which manages the Los Alamos lab,
announced earlier this month it has disciplined workers because
of the missing disks, but the number of workers and the nature of
the discipline was not disclosed.



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Re: [CTRL] The Poverty of Electoral Politics

2000-11-30 Thread flw


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Eric Stewart says in part:
>>Roughly speaking we can distinguish five degrees of government:

 (1) Unrestricted freedom
 (2) Direct democracy
 (3) Delegate democracy
 (4) Representative democracy
 (5) Overt minority dictatorship

>>Overt dictators may sometimes be overthrown, but the real rulers
in democratic regimes, the tiny minority who own or control virtually
everything, are never voted in and never voted out. Most people dont even
>>know who they are. . . .

Some comments.

Unrestricted mass democracy can be as dangerous, bloody and
evil as any tyrannical dictatorship. Democracy has been defined as
3 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

I agree that the "real power" in the world's democratic states are the
hidden elite who own the politicopaths who serve their interest.

In any system you will ALWAYS have an elite who due to personality
disorders have an obsessive need for power and wealth. The only way
to minimize the effect of the Power Elite is to minimize the power of
government over its citizens.

A casual study of American History clearly demonstrates that the Power
Elite depend on Government to further their interests. From the early Land 
Speculators, to the
Railroad Magnates to the Corporate Robber Barons - all
needed the power of government in order to thrive. In that way they operate
very much like the Power Elite of of all political systems, whether they be "the 
Nobility"; the
"Monarchists"; the"Capitalists" or the "Socialists."

If you want to stop the Government Bulldozer from smashing down the
peaceful villiage and rolling over the inhabitants, smash the engine.
Then the driver of the dozer will sit in frustrated, helpless fury while the
people point and laugh.

flw

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<< The British journal Nature is rushing to release a study by
 Canadian researchers reporting that the butterfly ballot used in
 Palm Beach County, Florida in the recent presidential election
 "appears to cause systematic errors in the casting of votes." >>

Yeah well?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The Sun Sets Over 'Amerika'


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<< The elderly are a whole hellova lot better off without these phamaceutical
 toxins.  Many will live longer lives with greater health and quality if they
 manage to avoid the ministrations of standard allopathic medicine and take an
 active interest and responsibility for their own health.

 From what I know and have witnessed the last few years, the elderly have been
 and are being slowly and profitably euthanized by these 'medicines'.  Younger
 adults as well!  Why else would the 3rd or 4th leading cause of death in this
 country be due to allopathic 'medical care'? >>

I'm glad somebody noticed.  Isn't it interesting?  I've got friends who take
20 pills in the morning and 20 pills at night, and I just wish one was a
vitamin.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Reu: Palm Beach County Missed Deadline Due ot Bad Advise and Bad D...


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<<
 WASHINGTON -- Several missteps caused Palm Beach County in
 Florida to miss a deadline by hours to get its hand count
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 George W.  Bush's lead by Sunday night's certification. >>


And that's not even counting the instructions from Jebby Baby.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Lawsuit over missing military absentee ballots

2000-11-30 Thread kl


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ELECTION 2000, Day 10 Lawsuit over missing military absentee
ballots Texas firm to file action on behalf of disenfranchised
soldiers

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By Jon E. Dougherty
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A San Antonio, Texas-based law firm said it will file suit in federal
court in the western district of Texas next week on behalf of military
personnel who claim they requested absentee ballots for local and
national elections but did not receive them. According to Mathew
Finch, an attorney with the firm Campbell & Jones, the suit is
aimed at "protecting [military members'] fundamental right to vote."

"It is our position that denial of the right to vote constitutes not only
a violation of one's fundamental constitutional rights, but taxation
without representation," Finch said in a statement. "Our clients can
be made whole by flying their ballots to them immediately so that
their voices may be heard," action that would form the basis for
"injunctive relief."

Or, Finch said, members would settle for "pecuniary relief in the
form of their not having to pay taxes for their period of
disenfranchisement from the voting process, which would amount
to four years" -- or the period of time before the next presidential
election.

"Since we're filing this Monday," Finch said, "we need any other
military members experiencing the same problem to contact us
immediately."

Finch, who said his firm will be handling the suit pro bono, said the
cost of the case "could be extremely high since it will likely go all
the way to the U.S. Supreme Court." The firm is asking for
donations to help cover litigation costs.

At issue is a series of complaints made by military personnel --
some overseas and others stationed stateside -- who have said
they requested absentee ballots but never received them.
WorldNetDaily broke this story on Nov. 4.

Most affected military personnel have pointedly maintained that they
followed standard procedure in requesting the ballots themselves
and many added that this year's presidential election was the first
time they had not received ballots in time.

Some have complained, however, that they never received them at
all -- which is the focus of Finch's suit.

The firm said any parties to the suit must fax a notarized statement
attesting to the fact that they applied for ballots "through the
appropriate channel and did not receive the ballot in time to vote or
did not receive it at all," the statement said.

"Also, if any orderly room records annotating service members'
requests for ballots exist," Finch said, "we could use copies of
those -- or sworn affidavits from the appropriate supervisor."

The Pentagon has denied any culpability in delayed or missing
military personnel absentee ballots, though officials have
acknowledged that at some point in transit, the military is
responsible for actually delivering ballots -- and other mail -- to
overseas personnel stationed on land and at sea.


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[CTRL] Fwd: Intifada and Policy Situation Up-date

2000-11-30 Thread Tenorlove


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> > Special Dispatch - PA
> > November 30, 2000
> > No. 160
> >
> > Middle East Media and Research Institute (MEMRI)
> > P.O. Box 7837, Washington, DC 20038-7837
> > Phone: (202) 955-9070
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> > Website: www.memri.org
> >
> > [MEMRI holds copyrights on all translations. Materials may only be
> > cited
> > with proper attribution.]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Special Dispatch - PA
> > November 30, 2000
> >
> > No. 160
> >
> > Intifada and Policy  Situation Up-date
> > Situation of the Intifada
> >
> > Palestinian officials state that the Intifada will continue. Yasser
> > Arafat
> > himself said in Amman: "The embers of the Intifada will continue
> > until
> > Palestinian independence, the return of Jerusalem and Al-Aqsa to
> > Palestinian
> > sovereignty, and the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state
> > with
> > Jerusalem as its capital. The decision regarding the Intifada is in
> > the
> > hands of the brave Palestinian people, who decided to carry out
> this
> > battle
> > to achieve independence and to establish their state." (1)
> >
> > PA Minister of Refugee Affairs, As'ad Abd Al-Rahman, stated "The
> > danger is
> > not, as some believe, in allowing the Intifada to continue, but
> > rather in
> > stopping it without any accomplishments or appropriate political
> > guarantees
> > that satisfy the national Palestinian and Arab Minimum Plan: the
> > Right of
> > Return; self-determination on all lands of the West Bank and the
> Gaza
> > Strip;
> > and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with
> > Jerusalem as
> > its capital." (2)
> >
> > Othman Abu Gharbiyya, the Head of the PA's National Guidance
> > Directorate,
> > stated, "The Intifada will not stop half-way.  It will continue
> until
> > it
> > accomplishes the goals of our people... In the next stage, we will
> > achieve
> > our goals  the liberation of our land and the establishment of a
> > Palestinian
> > state whose capital is Holy Jerusalem." (3)
> >
> > On the Use of Firearms
> >
> > The debate concerning the limitation of the use of firearms
> continues
> > among
> > the Palestinians. PA Minister of Supplies, Abu Ali Shahin, for
> > example,
> > stated  "The Intifada is a liberation movement, and therefore all
> > means may
> > be used in order to accomplish its goal." (4)
> >
> > However Arafat's instructions to refrain from using firearms in
> > popular
> > demonstrations and from areas under PA control, known as Area A, in
> > order to
> > minimize the number of Palestinian casualties gave rise to voices
> > calling to
> > limit and even refrain from using firearms.  Dr. Saleh Abd
> Al-Jawwad,
> > Chairman of the Department of History and Political Science at
> > Bir-Zeit
> > University, argued, "The confrontations proved that the Palestinian
> > side
> > the PA, the opposition and Palestinian society  is not ready for a
> > military
> > confrontation [with Israel], despite its demonstrations of heroism
> > and
> > sacrifice. .These armed people, do not lack  faith or a complete
> > readiness
> > to sacrifice, but [they] lack weapons, ammunition, experience,
> > training and
> > information, [as well as] discipline. The participation of these
> > people [in
> > the demonstrations]. served our enemies and gave them a lead in
> [the
> > battle
> > for] public opinion, as well as an excuse to use tanks, helicopters
> > and
> > missiles in order to suppress the Intifada which is popular in
> > essence."
> >
> > "This strategy proved its utter failure and led to great and
> > unjustified
> > losses among the demonstrators. The claim that the [Israeli]
> > withdrawal from
> > 'Joseph's Tomb' proves the success of this strategy, is an example
> of
> > the
> > Palestinian's inability to learn lessons. The conditions
> surrounding
> > 'Joseph's Tomb' are different from those of other military bases
> and
> > settlements.Attacks on military sites or fortified settlements
> > located in
> > open areas, lead to nothing but great fatalities among the
> > Palestinians and
> > to grave strategic damage."
> >
> > "The use of guns during popular demonstrations amounts to political
> > and
> > military suicide. We must focus on [popular] means of action that
> > will deny
> > the enemy its primary force: its clear military advantage."
> >
> > "Likewise, we must find a strategy that will prevent direct
> > confrontation
> > with Israeli society, which would turn the conflict over
> Palestinian
> > land
> > into a civil war. The confrontation must be limited so that it is
> > conducted
> > between a defenseless people on one hand and an army of occupiers
> and
> > settlers on the other hand." (5)
> >
> > Targeting Settlements
> >
> > PA Information Ministry Director-General, Hassan Al-Kashef,
> explained
> > that
> > the Palestinian struggle must be focused on fighting the
> settlements.
> > "The
> > settlements' fields and factories are a target for the rage of the

[CTRL] Fwd: "Heading Toward Apartheid In Israel"

2000-11-30 Thread Aleisha Saba





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MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 11/30:
   It's taken a long time in the USA for someone in the journalistic establishment
to utter the word "Apartheid" in connection with Israel and the "Peace Process".
 What has been somewhat openly discussed in the Middle East, in Europe, and in
academic circles for many years now remains a taboo subject for the major American
media -- the big newspapers, television networks, and CNN.  And now, when the
word is finally uttered and the comparison with the South Africa of old is finally
made, it is done by a very retired journalist, as an "Opinion" piece, and in
a small not very well-read publication, the Christian Science Monitor.
   This article by Richard C. Hottelet is very inadequate, very incomplete, very
slanted toward the false notion that the U.S. has tried to play a positive role
over the years but just hasn't managed to convince the Israelis.  The terribly
needed criticism of U.S. policies; of the power of the Israeli/Jewish lobby in
Washington; of the complex connections between the U.S., Israel, and the Arab
"client regimes" that perpetuates the entire region's bondage...this is all overlooked.
 But even so, it's a small start in opening up public discussion of a very serious
subject that could have much effect on the future of the region and the entire
world.
   For Israel is not "heading toward Apartheid", it is implementing a new Jewish-Arab
variant of apartheid and doing so in conspiracy with the U.S., with the connivance
of Europe, with the acquiescence of the U.N., and in the guise of a miserably
deceptive "peace process".




 HEADING TOWARD APARTHEID IN ISRAEL

 By Richard C. Hottelet*

WILTON, CONN - Israel's role in the West Bank and Gaza was not meant to be that
of the oppressor. Yet today it is driving into apartheid.

When Israel succeeded in overrunning this territory in the Six-Day War of 1967,
it may have been as surprised as everyone else. In the following months, Israel's
Labor government was prepared to trade it all, except East Jerusalem, for a genuine
peace with its Arab neighbors. But the Arab answer came from a conference in
Khartoum, Sudan: No negotiation, no treaty, no peace with Israel.

Having the Palestinian land and its people, the Israelis created a stable scene
on the old pattern of colonial
mercantilism. Here was cheap labor and a growing market for Israeli goods. Of
course, competition with Israeli products was not permitted. The West Bank and
Gaza had valuable raw materials - and water. And they were easily kept in order
by military government. Gradually, the long-inert Palestinian people developed
a sense of nationhood. Peremptory security regulations were increasingly resented.
Israel closed off large areas for military use. Housing permits for a growing
population were arbitrarily denied, and new dwellings were bulldozed for having
no permit. Collective punishment expanded. Homes of families with a member accused
of active opposition were destroyed.

At the same time, the Labor government permitted and then promoted Jewish settlement.
Later, Likud governments subsidized it lavishly. Today, reportedly, up to 360,000
settlers live in the territories, most of them commuters in new towns just beyond
the 1967 line. They also include the deeply religious and the secular nationalists
who claim the territories as part of the land of Israel. Nearly 200 such settlements
are located strategically throughout the West Bank. Each has automatic weapons
and an Army guard post.  Even poverty-stricken Gaza, with 45 percent unemployment,
has Israeli settlements covering a seventh of its area, lovely beachfront homes
almost alongside squalid Palestinian refugee camps. Peace Now, the Jewish peace
organization, says the second quarter of this year showed a 51 percent increase
in building starts.

The settlers not only get constant direct military protection, but also a 1,500-mile
network of roads - connecting them and bypassing Palestinian villages - which
is patrolled by the Army. The military has drawn
a crisscross pattern which cuts the West Bank into small parcels, allowing it,
when it deems necessary, to cordon off Palestinian communities. All movement
is stopped, bringing the already feeble economy to a complete halt. After former
Prime Minister Shimon Peres visited Yasser Arafat to urge a ceasefire, he told
reporters that he was "appalle

[CTRL] Fwd: Election Solutions

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> 10 Gore is President Monday, Wednesday and Fridays, Bush Tuesday,
> Thursday, and Saturday and alternate Sundays. Bush gets Presidency
> for two
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> holy
> days.
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> 9 Laura Bush and Tipper Gore mud wrestle for Presidency live on pay
> per
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>
> 8 Get Martin Sheen to play the President, and outside of the
> improvement
> most people won't notice the difference.
>
> 7 Bush & Gore sue each other in Federal Court. Winner gets the
> Presidency. Winner's lawyer gets Oregon, Indiana and one of the
> Carolina's.
>
> 6 One round, paper scissors rock, no flinchies, no do-overs.
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> 2 Al Gore and George W. Bush ride Disney's Magic Mountain
> continuously
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> Nader is
> named the winner and gets to declare Disney ride unsafe at any speed.
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> to.
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[CTRL] Fwd: SERBIAN MINISTER IN CHARGE OF RECONSTRUCTION SPEAKS OUT

2000-11-30 Thread Tenorlove


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> http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/ivkovic1.htm
>
> Serbian Minister of Science Speaks out
> An Interview with Bane Ivkovic
>
> www.tenc.net
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>
> Bane Ivkovic is Serbian Minister of Science and Technology. He was
> forced from this position after the Oct. 5 coup d'etat.
>
> Mr. Ivkovic had been in charge of the highly successful program of
> rebuilding bridges, factories and homes destroyed by the NATO
> bombing.
>
> We interviewed Mr. Ivkovic at the end of October and again in early
> November. This is the first interview. The interviewer is Jared
> Israel, editor of www.tenc.net
>
> Interview with Bane Ivkovic
>
> Israel: I understand you were in charge of reconstruction after the
> bombing.
>
> Ivkovic: Yes. For four years I had been Serbian Minister of
> Construction and then starting in 1998 I was Minister for Science and
> Technology. During the bombing I organized a special group to help
> the 130,000 workers left jobless by NATO bombing their factories. We
> wanted to do more than just rebuild; we tried at the same time to
> restructure our economy, to increase the number of small and medium
> enterprises. We were able to set up 1050 such businesses. This
> created 33,000 new jobs.
>
> Israel: Private or public sector?
>
> Ivkovic: Mainly private. The Ministry developed relations between the
> [scientific and technical] Institutes and these displaced workers. We
> collected 2900 plans for small and medium businesses, programs to
> produce goods using Serbian resources instead of importing these
> products. To finance these new businesses, after the bombing we
> collected money by asking everyone with a job to give one or two
> day's pay and using this as well as money from the Serbian government
> we offered the displaced workers five year loans at excellent rates
> so they could set up their own production facilities.
>
> Israel: So these businesses were privately owned by groups of
> employees?
>
> Ivkovic: Yes. Up until then we had relatively few small and medium
> enterprises. We wanted to strengthen the small business sector,
> especially in the villages. It's our opinion that these small,
> profitable businesses are the way to stop the flow of young people to
> the towns.
>
> Israel: Just to get clear, these enterprises were privately owned by
> the people who worked there?
>
> Ivkovic: Yes.
>
> Israel: Not just by one man?
>
> Ivkovic: No no no by the people. Each unemployed worker could take a
> loan for himself, but several workers could get a collective loan and
> apply it to one business. 50 of them could get 50 times more money.
>
> Israel: So they could start something of some size.
>
> Ivkovic: Yes, but it would be their own. Their own factory. Their own
> enterprise.
>
> Israel: You know the Western propaganda says Yugoslavia was run so
> that a few people made a lot of money and everybody else got nothing.
>
> Ivkovic: It's not true. You must understand a couple of things here.
> First of all, there is private business in Serbia, and this is
> nothing new. After 1945 we had people who owned land in the villages,
> people who owned private enterprises. Not so much in the 1940s,
> 1950s, and 1960s. But in the 1970s and 1980s this became far more
> common. A lot of these people established their own small offices,
> markets, enterprises and factories and now I think 50% of our
> economic life is in the private sector and it's a very profitable
> private sector. These owners are people of varying political
> viewpoints.
>
> The second thing is, we have been under a United States imposed
> embargo for 8 years and during that embargo some people who had
> previously been criminals went into business exporting or importing
> goods which were under embargo, and they made a lot of money. Those
> people are not the socialist party. We are a party of over 500,000
> people, mainly ordinary working people. Of course whenever a party is
> in power it attracts some opportunists, some who are there for
> reasons other than principle; but those people have left us or are
> leaving us now and as for the ones who remain, what possible gain is
> there in it for them?
>
> Foreign investment
>
> Ivkovic: When I was Serbian Minister for Construction I proposed a
> Federal Law On Foreign investment. On the [Serbian] Republican level
> we have a concession law and a law for ownership transformation. But
> then came the embargo and we couldn't do as much as we wanted at that
> time.
>
> Israel: So you want foreign investment?
>
> Ivkovic: Yes, why not? In the past I was involved in negotiations
> with several very powerful groups of foreign investors about
> concessions in road construction and electric power production.
> Unfortunately everything that happened with Kosovo and Metohija put a
> halt to those negotiations. [Kosovo and Metohija is the Serbian name
> for what the West calls 'Kosovo.']
>
> Israel: I don't know if you read

[CTRL] SNET: This HAARP Is NOT For Angels...... (fwd)

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WASHINGTON'S NEW WORLD ORDER WEAPONS
HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRIGGER CLIMATE CHANGE...
Surprise!.

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   [Emperor's Clothes]

Washington's New World Order Weapons
   Have the Ability to Trigger Climate Change
   by Michel Chossudovsky [11-26-2000]

 Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa, author of The
 Globalization of Poverty, second edition, Common Courage Press,
 2000.

 The important debate on global warming under UN auspices provides but a

 partial picture of climate change; in addition to the devastating
impacts of
 greenhouse gas emissions on the ozone layer, the World's climate can
now
 be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated "non-lethal
 weapons." Both the Americans and the Russians have developed
capabilities
 to manipulate the World's climate.

 In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency
 Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars")
 Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests
that
 HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially
triggering floods,
 droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP
is
 a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument
of
 conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and
ecological
 systems of entire regions.

 While there is no evidence that this deadly technology has been used,
surely
 the United Nations should be addressing the issue of "environmental
 warfare" alongside the debate on the climatic impacts of greenhouse
gases...

 * * *

 Despite a vast body of scientific knowledge, the issue of deliberate
climatic
 manipulations for military use has never been explicitly part of the UN

 agenda on climate change. Neither the official delegations nor the
 environmental action groups participating in the Hague Conference on
 Climate Change (CO6) (November 2000) have raised the broad issue of
 "weather warfare" or "environmental modification techniques (ENMOD)" as

 relevant to an understanding of climate change.

 The clash between official negotiators, environmentalists and American
 business lobbies has centered on Washington's outright refusal to abide
by
 commitments on carbon dioxide reduction targets under the 1997 Kyoto
 protocol.(1) The impacts of military technologies on the World's
climate are
 not an object of discussion or concern. Narrowly confined to greenhouse

 gases, the ongoing debate on climate change serves Washington's
strategic
 and defense objectives.

 "WEATHER WARFARE"

 World renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military

 scientists ... are working on weather systems as a potential weapon.
The
 methods include the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor
rivers in
 the Earth's atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods." (2)
Already
 in the 1970s, former National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had
 foreseen in his book "Between Two Ages" that:

  "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major
  nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which
  only a bare minimum of the security forces need be
  appraised... [T]echniques of weather modification could be
  employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm."

 Marc Filterman, a former French military officer, outlines several
types of
 "unconventional weapons" using radio frequencies. He refers to "weather

 war," indicating that the U.S. and the Soviet Union had already
"mastered the
 know-how needed to unleash sudden climate changes (hurricanes, drought)

 in the early 1980s."(3) These technologies make it "possible to trigger

 atmospheric disturbances by using Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radar
 [waves]." (4)

 A simulation study of future defense "scenarios" commissioned for the
US
 Air Force calls for:

  "US aerospace forces to 'own the weather' by capitalizing on
  emerging technologies and focusing development of those
  technologies to war-fighting applications... From enhancing
  friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via
  small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete
  dominance of global communications and counterspace control,
  weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of
  possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary... In the
  United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of
  national security policy w

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