[CTRL] Humor: Pigs - Oh Happy Pigs!
If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you would have produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee. (Hardly seems worth it) If you fart consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb. (Now that's more like it) A pig's orgasm lasts for 30 minutes. (In my next life I want to be a pig) Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. (Still not over that pig thing) Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure. (Is that why Flipper was always smiling?) The strongest muscle in the body is the tongue. (Hm) Right-handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left-handed people do. (If you're ambidextrous do you split the difference?) The ant can lift 50 times its own weight, can pull 30 times its own weight and always falls over on its right side when intoxicated. (From drinking little bottles of...?) (Did the govt pay for this research??) Polar bears are left handed. (Who knew?,Who cares...?) The catfish has over 27,000 taste buds. (What can be so tasty on the bottom of the pond?) The flea can jump 350 times its body length. (It's like a human jumping the length of a football field. ) A cockroach will live nine days without it's head, before it starves to death.(Creepy) The male praying mantis cannot copulate while its head is attached to its body. The female initiates sex by ripping the males head off. (Honey, I'm home. What the?!) Some lions mate over 50 times a day. (In my next life I still want to be a pig... quality over quantity) Butterflies taste with their feet. (Oh, geez) An ostrich's eye is bigger than it's brain. (I know some people like that.) Starfish don't have brains. (I know some people like that too) After reading all these, all I can say is...LUCKY Pigs!!! Have A Great Day! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: Sweet Voices - These are GREAT!
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Subject: sweet voices Ever notice how a 4-year-old's voice is louder than 200 adult voices? Several years ago, I returned home from a trip just when a storm hit, with crashing thunder and severe lightning. As I came into my bedroom about 2 a.m., I found my two children in bed with my wife, Karey, apparently scared by the loud storm. I resigned myself to sleep in the guest bedroom that night. The next day, I talked to the children, and explained that it was OK to sleep with Mom when the storm was bad, but when I was expected home, please don't sleep with Mom that night. They said OK. After my next trip several weeks later, Karey and the children picked me up in the terminal at the appointed time. Since the plane was late, everyone had come into the terminal to wait for my plane's arrival, along with hundreds of other folks waiting for their arriving passengers. As I entered the waiting area, my son saw me, and came running shouting, "Hi, Dad! I've got some good news!" As I waved back, I said loudly, "What's the good news?" "Nobody slept with Mommy while you were away this time!" Alex shouted. The airport became very quiet, as everyone in the waiting area looked at Alex, then turned to me, and then searched the rest of the area to see if they could figure out exactly who his Mom was. - An acquaintance of mine who is a physician told this story about her then-4-year-old daughter. On the way to preschool, the doctor had left her stethoscope on the car seat, and her little girl picked it up and began playing with it. "Be still, my heart," thought my friend, "my daughter wants to follow in my footsteps!" Then the child spoke into the instrument: "Welcome to McDonald's. May I take your order?" - A certain little girl, when asked her name, would reply, "I'm Mr. Sugarbrown's daughter." Her mother told her this was wrong, she must say, "I'm Jane Sugarbrown." The Vicar spoke to her in Sunday School, and asked, "Aren't you Mr. Sugarbrown's daughter?" She replied, "I thought I was, but mother says I'm not." - A little girl asked her mother, "Can I go outside and play with the boys?" Her mother replied, "No, you can't play with the boys, they're too rough." The little girl thought about it for a few moments and asked "If I find a smooth one, can I play with him?" - A mother was teaching her 3-year-old the Lord's prayer. For several evenings at bedtime she repeated it after her mother. One night she said she was ready to solo. The mother listened with pride as she carefully enunciated each word, right up to the end of the prayer. "Lead us not into temptation," she prayed, "but deliver us some E-mail, Amen." - A Sunday school teacher asked her little children, as they were on the way to church service, "And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?" One bright little girl replied, "Because people are sleeping." - A little boy opened the big and old family Bible with fascination, he looked at the old pages as he turned them. Then something fell out of the Bible and he picked up and looked at it closely. It was an old leaf from a tree that has been pressed in between pages. "Momma, look what I found," the boy called out. "What have you got there, dear?" his mother asked. With astonishment in the young boy's voice he answered: "It's Adam's suit!!!" - At the beginning of a children's sermon, one girl came up to the altar wearing a beautiful dress. As the children were sitting down around the pastor, he leaned over and said to the girl, "That is a very pretty dress. Is it your Easter dress?" The girl replied almost directly into the pastor's clip-on mike, "Yes, and my mom says it's a bitch to iron." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe
Re: [CTRL] Plans to Attack Taiwan Reported In Official Chinese Newspaper
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Hi, I just looked on the USA Today website and didn't see this article. Can you please send a link. Thanks, Hilary -Original Message- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: [CTRL] Plans to Attack Taiwan Reported In Official Chinese Newspaper (fwd) -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- [It's startin't'get HEAVEEE, baby! --MS] Newspaper reports plan to attack Taiwan Threat of nuclear war, seizing U.S. assets mentioned By Antoaneta Bezlova and Paul Wiseman USA TODAY An obscure but official Chinese newspaper has described plans to invade Taiwan with a fleet of 200,000 fishing boats and to frighten the United States into staying out of the Taiwan Strait by threatening nuclear war, selling nukes to rogue states and seizing U.S. assets in China. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE LABELLA MEMO...
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Friday, March 17th, 2000 THE LABELLA MEMO... The story the networks won't talk about As reported by media watchdog Brent H. Baker in an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, ABC, CBS, NBC and MSNBC all completely ignored leaks of the now infamous "LaBella memo" on Friday, and have given the story short shrift since. The scandal revolves around a memo, long held secret by the Justice Department, that was prepared by Former campaign-finance investigator Charles LaBella. In it he concludes that Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore and Harold Ickes all received special treatment from Justice. FNC has been on top of this story from the moment the memo came to light. In fact, Hannity Colmes interviewed Mr. LaBella himself in August of '99, after he quit the Justice Department because his findings about campaign-finance abuses were being ignored. Mr. LaBella felt that a special prosecutor should be named to investigate the abuses: "The very low threshold in the (now defunct) Independent Counsel Act had been met, and I know that the director of the FBI came to the same conclusion." The Attorney General continues to ignore a congressional subpoena which calls for her to release LaBella's findings. Congressman Asa Hutchinson, speaking Wednesday night on The Edge with Paula Zahn, called Reno's actions a flagrant abuse of her position: "We're trying not to cast judgements in advance, but without the information, it's very difficult not to do so." Is all this a sign of Justice Department corruption? Fox News Channel was out front on this story. We'll pursue it until we get the truth. THE BALANCE SHEET IS A SERVICE OF FOX NEWS VIEWER SERVICES [EMAIL PROTECTED] CLICK HERE TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THIS NEWSLETTER © Fox News Network LLC. All rights reserved. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Mainstream Scientist Confirm Climate Change Due To Sun - so THERE! http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/March2000/0316mainstream.htm Okay, 'Uncle.' "I will not fake seizures." --Bart Simpson Hey! You just posted this one recently. I want a new one!!! Hilary A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DRUDGE: ABSURD CENSUS QUESTIONS CAUSE BACKLASH (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: MICHAEL SPITZER [EMAIL PROTECTED] X DRUDGE REPORT X WED MARCH 15 2000 21:52:09 ET X CENSUS BREAKDOWN: CITIZENS TELL SAM TO SHOVE IT OVER PROBING QUESTIONS; WILL PAY FINE A friend of mine is helping taking the census in the deeply rural areas around here. Legally, you don't have to answer the questions and I live in an area that is deeply "private" especially when it comes to government. If my friend is unable to get an answer on the long form she is to write down as much as she sees. The government has eyes!!! Hilary A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #1
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Pig Organ Transplants Raise Ethical Dilemmas. LONDON (Reuters) The cloning of pigs could relieve a global shortage of donor organs but critics chal- lenged the ethics of changing the genetic makeup of animal species using their organs in humans. So it's more ethical just to let people suffer die, eh? http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2315/sc/health_pigs_3.html Who gave humans the right to alter other species? Should animals endure suffering and cruelty so we can live longer? If you are going to serve up pig for dinner, I see little difference in herding a few together and messing with their genetic material so that humans can have pig-hearts. Ultimately, is this a good idea? Probably not, but at this stage of our medical know-how it's a good step provided that no nasties are transferred from the piggies to the humans. Will animal organs intrinsically change the people who receive them? Will we have pigmen? Pigwomen? Can animal viruses be transferred to humans and do they pose a threat to human health? This is the big question for me. Hilary A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ The State of Unclassified and Commercial Technology Capable of Electronic Mind Control Effects."Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electrical stimulation of the brain." http://www.raven1.net/uncom.htm : Do you control spies/generals/politicos/aliens? Do they control you? D'ya interact in formulaic ways? D'ya visualize your prospects, threats, options? Do you penetrate y'r opponents? Do they penetrate you? Is this sensual? Eh? I like to think that I control the various species growing in my refrigerator, but I believe I'm just kidding myself. Hilary A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Funny: Cold Hard Facts
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- A guy named David received a parrot for his birthday. The parrot was fully grown, with a bad attitude and worse vocabulary. Every other word was an expletive. Those that weren't expletives were, to say the least, rude. David tried hard to change the bird's attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, anything he could think of to try and set a good example. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird and the bird yelled back. He shook the bird and the bird just got more angry and more rude. Finally, in a moment of desperation, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird squawk and kick and scream. Then suddenly there was quiet. Not a sound for half a minute. David was frightened that he might have hurt the bird and quickly opened the freezer door. The parrot calmly stepped out onto David's extended arm and said, "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I will endeavor at once to correct my behavior. I really am truly sorry and beg your forgiveness." David was astonished at the bird's change in attitude and was about to ask what had made such a dramatic change when the parrot continued, "May I ask what the chicken did?" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gore, Bradley and Beijing's Nuclear Blackmailer
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "Of course, there will be no mention of Chinese Defense Minister Chi Haotian's recent prediction that "war with the United States is inevitable," as reported by Hong Kong's Cheng Ming newspaper earlier this month." Of course not. US citizens may actually want to beef up our military if that bit of news was broadcasted. Hilary http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/1/24/92443 Monday January 24, 2000; 10:22 AM Gore, Bradley and Beijing's Nuclear Blackmailer New York Times columnist William Safire has some profound advice for Democratic challenger Bill Bradley. If the former New Jersey senator wants to stay in the race after his expected loss to Vice President Al Gore in Monday night's Iowa caucuses, it's time he considered going "upbeat negative." Safire says there's one topic that's guaranteed to worry even the most committed Gore supporters. "In going upbeat negative, don't dredge up ancient history about Gore's first use of Willie Horton. In this week's debate, be realistic about the great danger to Democrats in the fall campaign: Gore's shameful record in abetting Clinton's 1996 political money corruption." And there's no more shameful aspect of that corruption than the millions in Chinese campaign cash the Clinton-Gore team raked in as Beijing's agents ran roughshod over US national security. If Bradley were to take Safire's advice seriously, he might begin right away by complaining about the event scheduled to take place in D.C. at the same time Iowans are deciding for whom they'll vote. As reported in this space exclusively two weeks ago, a senior Chinese general who once threatened Los Angeles with nuclear annihilation will be welcomed to Washington with open arms today by the Clinton-Gore adminsitration. People's Liberation Army Lt. Gen Xiong Guangkai will meet with Defense Secretary William Cohen and other senior American military officials to repair ties in the wake of last year's bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during US air attacks on Bosnia. The diplomatic mission is something of a new role for Gen. Xiong. He wasn't particularly interested in diplomacy four years ago when he delivered the nuclear ultimatum to former US Assistant Secretary of Defense Charles Freeman -- in the midst of Beijing's saber rattling over US ties to Taiwan. "Taiwan is a matter of vital interest to us," warned Gen. Xiong. "In the 1950s, you three times threatened nuclear strikes on China, and you could do that because we couldn't hit back. Now we can. So you are not going to threaten us again because, in the end, you care a lot more about Los Angeles than (Taiwan's capital) Taipei." (Washington Post, June 21, 1998) Xiong's nuclear threat came on the heels of his deputy Gen. Ji Shengde's promise of $300,000 in campaign cash to then-Clinton fundraiser Johnny Chung. "We like your President," Ji told Chung. "We want to see him reelected." During this week's visit, Beijing's nuclear blackmailer is expected to criticize US plans to sell advanced weaponry to Taiwan and tell the Clinton Pentagon that China opposes America's own missile defense efforts. Administration spinmeisters will no doubt pretend Gen. Xiong's efforts to derail US missile defense plans merely reflect China's desire to avoid a new worldwide arms race. Of course, there will be no mention of Chinese Defense Minister Chi Haotian's recent prediction that "war with the United States is inevitable," as reported by Hong Kong's Cheng Ming newspaper earlier this month. If Bill Bradley wants to stop Gore cold, he could start by explaining to Iowans the significance of Gen. Xiong's visit and Minister Chi's comments, as he shakes their hands during a final round of campaigning. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Pentagon, PLA to resume military exchanges today
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- "A provision of the fiscal 2000 defense authorization signed by President Clinton in October is aimed at preventing Chinese military intelligence from gathering defense technology through the Pentagon's military-to-military program with China." What more information do they need? Hilary January 24, 2000 http://www.washtimes.com/national/nation2-01242000.htm Pentagon, PLA to resume military exchanges today By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Meetings between Pentagon officials and a senior Chinese general this week will be the first test of a new law restricting U.S. exchanges with the People's Liberation Army. A provision of the fiscal 2000 defense authorization signed by President Clinton in October is aimed at preventing Chinese military intelligence from gathering defense technology through the Pentagon's military-to-military program with China. People's Liberation Army (PLA) Lt. Gen. Xiong Guankai, deputy chief of staff for intelligence, arrives here today to begin three days of meetings in the first military exchanges since Beijing broke off military exchanges after NATO's bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade last May. Gen. Xiong is scheduled to meet Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and other senior Pentagon officials, according to defense officials. A senior Clinton administration official said the talks are not expected to produce dramatic progress in military relations, which in the past have included visits to both countries by officials, ships and aircraft. Gen. Xiong is expected to criticize U.S. plans to sell advanced weaponry to Taiwan and also will oppose U.S. missile defense efforts. Defense officials say he also will ask for the names and punishment of the CIA officials blamed for giving NATO war planners the incorrect bombing coordinates for the Chinese Embassy. The general and other visiting PLA military officials also will be honored at private banquets sponsored by the Nixon Center, a think tank, the Pentagon and the Chinese Embassy through Wednesday.Some Pentagon officials hope the talks will open up the Chinese military to a visit to China later this year by Mr. Cohen. The defense secretary had planned to visit China last year, but the embassy bombing forced the trip to be canceled. "This is part of an effort, obviously, to rebuild our relationship after the mistaken attack," Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon told reporters. "It is an effort to rebuild contacts and discussions between the U.S. and the Chinese militaries." The guidelines limiting military exchanges with China were produced by Sen. Robert C. Smith, New Hampshire Republican, following reports last year that China obtained strategic technology covertly from the United States. The so-called Smith Guidelines state that Mr. Cohen may not authorize any military exchanges involving force projection operations, nuclear operations, advanced combined arms and joint combat operations, logistics activities, chemical and biological defenses, surveillance and reconnaissance operations. It also restricts the Pentagon from discussing any activities related to joint war-fighting experiments, military space issues, advanced military capabilities, arms sales and weapons technology. The guidelines also restrict any access by Chinese officials to Pentagon laboratories. The Pentagon views the military exchanges with China as part of the administration's diplomacy toward Beijing and has said they do not involve technology transfers. The Chinese regard the exchanges as a way to obtain militarily useful technology. Past exchanges have included Chinese military delegation visits to sensitive facilities, conferences on military logistics and demonstrations of military air traffic control. A report by the National Counterintelligence Center, an interagency security group located at CIA headquarters, warned in a report that China is continuing efforts to gather technology overseas. China's official Xinhua news agency in August stated that the Chinese Communist Party Central Committee and State Council announced plans to intensify "foreign cooperation" in technology innovation, primarily with the help of ethnic Chinese living or working abroad, the report states. Mr. Cohen's last visit to China took place in January 1998 when he was permitted to visit an aging air defense site. Some Pentagon officials complained that the Chinese refused to allow the defense secretary to visit more advanced military facilities. Leading the so-called "defense consultative talks" will be Undersecretary of Defense Walter Slocombe. "Discussions will cover a wide range of areas. We will compare our strategic assessments of the 21st century," Mr. Bacon said. "We will talk about the geopolitical conditions in the Asia-Pacific, about military modernization programs in the two countries, what sort of military
[CTRL] Congress blows $129 billion
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Congress blows $129 billion Funds 137 unauthorized federal programs in FY 2000 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/2124_xex_congress_blo.shtml By Mike Catanzaro When Republicans took control of Congress in 1994, one of the pillars of their reform agenda was vigorous oversight of federal programs. But after nearly five years of a GOP majority, Congress has allowed some of the most liberal federal programs to go unauthorized for years, while continuing to feed them with taxpayer dollars. That was the troubling conclusion highlighted in a recent report by the Congressional Budget Office, which shows that Congress provided nearly $101 billion in fiscal year 1999 for 198 government programs that either have never been authorized or whose authorization expired. In the following year, Congress provided $129 billion for 137 unauthorized programs. CBO's report also found that 49 program authorizations, totaling $293 billion, will expire before the end of FY 2000. Supposedly, there can be no money appropriated for unauthorized purposes. "This is simply an outrage," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R.-Colo., who, along with members of the Conservative Action Team and the Citizen Legislators' Caucus, is trying to make Congress do its job. Some of the more egregious examples include the Legal Services Corp., which underwrites a hard left-wing legal agenda. The LSC, to the chagrin of many conservatives, was last authorized in 1979, but got $305 million this year. Neither the National Endowment for the Humanities, nor the National Endowment for the Arts -- which continues to fund pornography -- have been authorized since 1993. But this year they received a total of $213 million. Tancredo said that turning a blind eye to unauthorized appropriations contributes to the "loss of congressional oversight and responsibility." A fresh example of that occurred last year, when it was revealed that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting had exchanged donor lists with the Democratic Party. No matter -- Congress forked over $360 million, while giving it a free ride for the last seven years. The Justice Department, which thwarted an independent investigation of the Chinese money laundering scandal in 1996, has escaped congressional authorizers during the entire reign of the Clinton administration. But Congress nonetheless gave Janet Reno $14 billion this year. Budget rules prohibit spending on unauthorized appropriations. But for years, members have supported floor rules that waive points of order against such spending. To put a stop to that, Tancredo says this year he will lead the charge to oppose any rules that allow for unauthorized programs. In addition, other conservatives, including Rep. Tom Coburn, R.-Okla., Rep. Mark Sanford, R.-S.C., Rep. Pat Toomey, R.-Pa., and Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R.-Mich., will pitch in with "Dear Colleague" letters and floor speeches, as well as raise the issue at leadership meetings. If "all else fails," they say, these conservatives will encourage appropriators to at least limit funding for unauthorized programs to only 90% of their current levels. But Tancredo conceded that conservatives are waging "a long-term battle." Over the past few weeks, their plan was informally reviewed by Speaker Dennis Hastert, R.-Ill., and Majority Whip Tom DeLay, R.-Texas. While they offered support in principle, both Hastert and DeLay said they had doubts about its implementation. But Tancredo believes he has a silver bullet in his arsenal. He and his conservative allies will make the case that avoiding dipping into the Social Security surplus, a major Republican pledge, will be very difficult because of the $20 billion in spending that, in order not to run a deficit, the GOP Congress last year pushed over into fiscal year 2001. With the White House and the congressional leadership having abandoned all support for keeping the 1997 balanced budget caps in place, the pressure for higher spending will be great and Social Security will serve as the new spending threshold. "If we can cut back on some of these programs, then we can pay for last year's forward funding and not dip into Social Security," Tancredo said. Though appropriators have much of the power on Capitol Hill, a reinvigoration of congressional oversight can bring some balance back to Congress, and maybe even a smaller federal Leviathan. "Getting attention to this problem is extremely important," Tancredo said, "because this is a means of making a more conservative, limited government." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright
[CTRL] Humor: Classified Ads
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- From James: FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER. 8 YEARS OLD. HATEFUL LITTLE DOG. -- FREE PUPPIES: 1/2 COCKER SPANIEL - 1/2 SNEAKY NEIGHBOR'S DOG -- FREE PUPPIES...PART GERMAN SHEPHERD - PART STUPID DOG -- GERMAN SHEPHERD 85 lbs. NEUTERED. SPEAKS GERMAN. FREE. - FOUND: DIRTY WHITE DOG. LOOKS LIKE A RAT... BEEN OUT AWHILE.. BETTER BE REWARD. --- 1 MAN, 7 WOMAN HOT TUB -- $850/offer AMANA WASHER $100. OWNED BY CLEAN BACHELOR WHO SELDOM WASHED. -- SNOW BLOWER FOR SALE... ONLY USED ON SNOWY DAYS. --- 2 WIRE MESH BUTCHERING GLOVES: 1 5-finger, 1 3-finger, PAIR: $15 -- TICKLE ME ELMO, STILL IN BOX, COMES WITH ITS OWN 1988 MUSTANG, 5L, AUTO, EXCELLENT CONDITION $6800 -- COWS, CALVES NEVER BRED... ALSO 1 GAY BULL FOR SALE. 83 TOYOTA HUNCHBACK -- $2000 - STAR WARS JOB OF THE HUT -- $15 - SOFT GENITAL BATH TISSUES OR FACIAL TISSUE 89 cents --- FULL SIZED MATTRESS. 20 YR. WARRANTY. LIKE NEW. SLIGHT URINE SMELL. --- FREE 1 CAN OF PORK BEANS WITH PURCHASE OF 3 BR 2 BATH HOME. -- FOR SALE: LEE MAJORS (6 MILLION DOLLAR MAN) - $50 --- NORDIC TRACK $300 HARDLY USED, CALL CHUBBIE - BILL'S SEPTIC CLEANING "WE HAUL AMERICAN MADE PRODUCTS" -- SHAKESPEARE'S PIZZA - FREE CHOPSTICKS -- HUMMELS - LARGEST SELECTION EVER "IF IT'S IN STOCK, WE HAVE IT!" --- GET A LITTLE JOHN: THE TRAVELING URINAL HOLDS 2 1/2 BOTTLES OF BEER. --- HARRISBURG POSTAL EMPLOYEES GUN CLUB - GEORGIA PEACHES CALIFORNIA GROWN - 89 cents lb. -- NICE PARACHUTE: NEVER OPENED - USED ONCE SLIGHTLY STAINED -- AMERICAN FLAG 60 STARS - POLE INCLUDED $100 --- TIRED OF WORKING FOR ONLY $9.75 PER HOUR? WE OFFER PROFIT SHARING AND FLEXIBLE HOURS. STARTING PAY: $7 - $9 PER HOUR. - EXERCISE EQUIPMENT: QUEEN SIZE MATTRESS BOX SPRINGS -$175. - OUR SOFA SEATS THE WHOLE MOB AND IT'S MADE OF 100% ITALIAN LEATHER. --- JOINING NUDIST COLONY! MUST SELL WASHER DRYER $300. -- LAWYER SAYS CLIENT IS NOT THAT GUILTY. - ALZHEIMER'S CENTER PREPARES FOR AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER GAS CLOUD CLEARS OUT TACO BELL. -- OPEN HOUSE BODY SHAPERS TONING SALON FREE COFFEE DONUTS -- KELLOGG'S POT TARTS - $1.99 box --- FULLY COOKED BONELESS SMOKED MAN - $2.09 lb. --- FOR SALE BY OWNER Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes. Excellent condition. $1,000.00 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married last weekend. Wife knows everything. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Hillary Beat the Rap
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- -Original Message- From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] How Hillary Beat the Rap -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 01/11/2000 12:56:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . In it, Watkins quoted Hillary demanding that he fire the Travel Office staff because "we need those slots for our people." I've never figured out the problem. I think they changed chefs too. The Travel Office people work at the pleasure of the president (and probably his wife as well; I know Nancy R had a lot of push around there). Billy Dale had been under investigation through several administrations, because of his habit of taking the funds home and putting them in his personal account. No one wanted to do the ugly job of firing him, because the press loved him. He gave them wonderful perks, and they really appreciated it. Clinton's years in the White House would probably have been very different had he not given Billy Dale the boot. They're still getting even. If there's any sign they should hang on that "bridge to the 2lst century," it's one reading, "Don't p___ off the press." I don't know who finally cleaned out the White House Travel Office, but it would have happened two administrations before, if anyone had had the nerve to act. Prudy If true then Billy Dale should have been fired for reasons of corruption. If the Clinton's cleaned up the Travel Office for legitimate reasons why is there all this cloak and dagger stuff around it? Hilary A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ALGERIAN TERRORISTS LINKED TO BIN LADEN
ALGERIAN TERRORISTS LINKED TO BIN LADEN By NILES LATHEM POST EXCLUSIVE -- The Algerian terror group whose members were caught allegedly smuggling explosives into the United States joined forces with Osama bin Laden's network and planned to strike here on his behalf, The Post has learned. Law-enforcement agencies in Seattle and New York have established a number of connections between bin Laden and the Algerian Armed Islamic Group, four of whose members were arrested on immigration, explosives and conspiracy charges last month. Sources told The Post that a key piece of the puzzle was a chilling communiqu issued in September by a senior commander of the Algerian Armed Islamic Group, which goes by the initials GIA in French. The communiqu celebrated the second anniversary of the bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, an operation credited to bin Laden's al Qeda organization -- and warned of more attacks. We say to all the enemies of God in France and the U.S. and elsewhere that the explosions that took place in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam prove that we carry through on our threats. Do not think it is bin Laden alone who is behind this, the communiqu said to be written by GIA senior commander Antar Zouabri said. This involves children from the Armed Islamic Group who will poison you. So expect more acts. U.S. counter-terrorism officials interpreted the communiqu, recently obtained through intelligence channels, as a possible explanation for why GIA members appeared to be targeting the United States. It is now becoming increasingly clear that there was a plan to launch a major attack in the United States and that an Algerian cell was activated for the job, said Yossef Bodansky, staff director of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism. It is also clear that the Algerians are now part of the big family of world Islamicists that is headed by Osama bin Laden. Attorney General Janet Reno is expected to decide soon that separate arrests of GIA members last month in Washington state and Brooklyn are part of one conspiracy and that the case will be tried in federal court in New York. http://www.nypostonline.com/news/21693.htm
[CTRL] Pyongyang 'up to old tricks' in reactor deal
Give an extortionist what he wants and he'll come back for more. Where's the surprise here? Hilary Tuesday, January 11, 2000 KOREA Pyongyang 'up to old tricks' in reactor deal ROGER DEAN DU MARS in Seoul A month after the North Korean light water nuclear reactor deal was finally sealed, Pyongyang has again resorted to brinkmanship to extort more money - with an eye to for upcoming talks with Washington - say observers. Pyongyang is demanding pay be increased from US$110 (HK$854) to US$600 a month for 200 labourers at the Keumho construction site. The nuclear facility is being built by the Korean Energy Development Organisation (Kedo). Pyongyang said the wages were unfairly low, citing workers' pay in South Korea of about US$2,000 for the same tasks. Analysts said the wages were high by North Korean standards and workers would probably never see the pay rise, which Pyongyang would pocket. Last month Seoul, Washington, Pyongyang and Tokyo - the members of the consortium primarily responsible for funding construction of the reactors - signed an agreement designed to cap North Korea's ambitions of developing a nuclear arsenal. Created a year after the 1994 Agreed Framework in Geneva, the Kedo project had been routinely delayed. The December signing was considered a major marker in taming the bellicose and outspoken Stalinist regime. Although North Korea had been threatening to withdraw the workforce and disrupt the Kedo project, analysts said Pyongyang was up to its old tricks again. Pyongyang is doing what it typically does, pushing the envelope by making unreasonable demands to test the resolve of Kedo members to extort more money, Professor Lee Chung-min, of the graduate school of international studies at Yonsei University, said. When North Korea argued for the wage rise last October, Kedo executive director Dusaix Anderson sent a letter to Pyongyang explaining that a written agreement in 1997 explicitly established the fixed wages. Analysts say North Korea is not expecting immediate capitulation to its demand. That kind of demand is not accepted, especially with all the countries involved, North Korea expert Lee Jong-heon said. The Kim Jong-il regime is placing a barricade in front of the project to prepare for future Kedo negotiations and for the upcoming Pyongyang/Washington talks. Vice-Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan and US special envoy Charles Kartman are due to meet in Berlin on January 22 to discuss bilateral issues. This demand is a wake-up call for members, Professor Lee said. Kedo is a cash cow for North Korea and it's not going to walk out of it. The countries involved should see this as a litmus test. http://www.scmp.com/News/Asia/Article/FullText_asp_ArticleID-2111025455826.asp
[CTRL] How Hillary Beat the Rap
Monday January 10, 7:44 PM How Hillary Beat the Rap By the spring of 1996 the legal picture looked very bleak for First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. So bleak, in fact, that predictions of her imminent indictment were everywhere. Clinton's long-subpoenaed Rose Law billing records, complete with her fingerprints, had just materialized in the White House Book Room. For an explanation, Independent Counsel Ken Starr had brought Hillary before his Washington grand jury, an historic humiliation for a sitting president's wife. But perhaps the most dangerous development for Mrs. Clinton was the emergence of a smoking gun memo written by top White House aide and longtime Clinton friend David Watkins. In it, Watkins quoted Hillary demanding that he fire the Travel Office staff because we need those slots for our people. Watkins' contemporaneous notes made it amply clear that when Mrs. Clinton denied under oath that she pushed for the Travel Office firings, she was lying. Instantly the three-year-old document became known as the Hell to Pay memo. Watkins wrote that if Mrs. Clinton's order to fire the Travel Office staff wasn't followed, there would be hell to pay for himself and his co-worker-friend Vince Foster. Accounts from other White House staffers corroborated Watkins' version, blatantly contradicting Mrs. Clinton's. Barbara Olson, whose new best-selling Hillary biography takes its title from the Watkins memo, was the lead investigative counsel for the House Travelgate Committee. In October 1996, her boss, committee chairman William Clinger (R-Pa.), handed up criminal referrals for a myriad of top Clinton aides. But, to the shock of many familiar with Hillary's legal vulnerabilities, he did not name Mrs. Clinton. Chairman Clinger thought long and hard about that, Olson told NewsMax.com last week. He just felt as though it was improper to name her in a criminal referral. Did Clinger believe that the first lady had committed perjury? He felt that there was a conflict between her testimony and certain evidence, Olson explained diplomatically. We had lots of evidence that showed Mrs. Clinton not only had a hand [in the Travel Office firings] but that she was the driving force. Like what? We not only had David Watkins' notes, explained Olson, we had Mack McLarty's memo talking about 'HRC pressure,' we had Vince Foster's notebook talking about all his conversations with Hillary, we had material from Harry Thomason. We had a lot of other evidence. McLarty was cited by Clinger's committee for possible perjury and obstruction of justice, along with White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum, associate counsel Bill Kennedy, deputy counsel Jane Sherburne and even Harry Thomason, the Clintons' Hollywood producer friend. The committee also referred Craig Livingstone and Anthony Marceca to the Office of Independent Counsel on possible charges related to Filegate, an outgrowth of the Travelgate probe. But in deference to the Office of the First Lady, Clinger spared Hillary Clinton. On the day after the Travelgate referrals were announced, the Washington Times reported: Committee sources said last night that Mrs. Clinton's name was omitted to avoid White House and media criticism of such a citation, and they noted pointedly that Mr. Starr, and not the panel, has the authority to bring criminal charges. Apparently the Office of Independent Counsel has accorded Mrs. Clinton the same deference she won from Chairman Clinger. But reports that a draft Whitewater indictment was prepared for Starr indicate just how guilty the first lady looked to investigators. In 1998, Starr's Little Rock grand jury shut down without indicting either Bill or Hillary on Whitewater charges, indicating the end of that phase of his investigation. But Starr's successor Robert Ray has yet to officially close the Travelgate probe, leaving the possibility of a indictment there open - if only technically. In fact, the legal momentum to criminally charge Hillary Clinton evaporated long ago. It's now plain that neither Congress nor the OIC was willing to face the public relations nightmare that an indictment of a sitting first lady would have sparked. Hillary Clinton has beaten the rap. And quite a rap it is. Travelgate prober Olson gave NewsMax.com. a guided tour through some other areas that concerned her committee's investigators. As the lead lawyer probing the case, it was Olson's job to prepare interrogatories for the first lady in an attempt to clarify Clinton's previous Travelgate testimony supplied to the General Accounting Office. Some of Olson's questions touched on the suspected removal of possible Travelgate evidence from Vince Foster's office shortly after he died. Newly unearthed phone records revealed a flurry of calls on the night Foster died between Mrs. Clinton, her chief of staff Maggie Williams, her New York operative Susan Thomases and Foster's boss Bernard Nussbaum.
[CTRL] Humor: Three Proofs
THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS JEWISH He went into his father's business.He lived at home until he was 33.He was sure his Mother was a virgin, and his Mother was sure he was God.THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS IRISH He never got married.He was always telling stories.He loved green pastures.THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS PUERTO RICAN His first name was Jesus.He was bilingual.He was always being harassed by the authorities. THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS ITALIAN He talked with his hands.He had wine with every meal.He worked in the building trades. THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS BLACK He called everybody brother.He liked Gospel.He couldn't get a fair trial.THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS A CALIFORNIAN He never cut his hair.He walked around barefoot.He started a new religion.THREE PROOFS THAT JESUS WAS A WOMAN He had to feed a crowd, at a moments notice, when there was no food.He kept trying to get the message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it.Even when he was dead, he had to get up because there was more work to do.
[CTRL] Humor: Church Bloopers (some old, some new)
These are GREAT! from James: 1. The Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.2. Ladies Bible Study will be held Thursday morning at 10. All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S. is done.3. The pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake breakfast next Sunday morning.4. Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM. Please use the back door.5. The pastor will preach his farewell message, after which the choir will sing, Break Forth Into Joy.6. A songfest was hell at the Methodist church Wednesday.7. Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community.8. The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The Congregation is invited to attend this tragedy.9. Thursday night Potluck Supper. Prayer and medication to follow.10. The rosebud on the altar this morning is to announce the birth of David, the sin of Rev. and Mrs. Adams.11. Tuesday at 4 PM there will be an ice cream social. All ladies giving milk will please come early.12. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow.13. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be What Is Hell? Come early and listen to our choir practice.14. Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the First Presbyterian Church. Please use large double door at the side entrance.15. Mrs. Johnson will be entering the hospital this week for testes.16. Please join us as we show our support for Amy and Alan who are preparing for the girth of their first child.17. The Lutheran Men's group will meet at 6 PM. Steak, mashed potatoes, green beans, bread and dessert will be served for a nominal feel.18. The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing campaign slogan last Sunday: I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours.19. Our next song is Angels We Have Heard Get High.20. Don't let worry kill you, let the church help.21. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs.22. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the altar.23. The service will close with Little Drops of Water. One of the ladies will start quietly and the rest of the congregation will join in.24. Eight new choir robes are currently needed, due to the addition of several new members and to the deterioration of some older ones.25. The senior choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys sinning to join the choir.
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/07/2000 9:54:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't suspect for one moment, Hillary that you have both honor and integrity. You may also have a substantial amount of cash. Good luck on rebuilding this nation. Prudy Sorry Hillary, I seem to have left out the word "don't" tha should be placed between the you and have. I consider you a pretty good sort. Must have been startling. I know that it startled me. Prudy Thank goodness it was a typo Sweetie! Indeed I was startled. I couldn't imagine what bee got in your bonnet. I've enjoyed our banter and that we usually disagree on every subject, but that was the first time you had ever said anything like that. Whew! I am relieved. And NO, I'm not one of the Rich to say the things that I do. I emphatically believe *stomping of feet* in personal responsibility and accountability if you are a housewife or a CEO. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: You start by reducing the resources YOU use, joining programs that feed children, shopping wisely, and using your voice to halt "bomber crews to rain death on anyone who stands in the way of our rulers' profits." I do all that and more. So should you. I do. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I do all that and more. So should you. I do. So now all we gotta do is convince these other people, eh? Bingo! It's going to take the masses to pull this one off. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 5:10 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/06/2000 8:03:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, we are back to individual choice, responsibility and accountability. It's pretty simple if you stick to an honorable "formula." You can throw all the confusion you want at it, but it boils down to individual choice. The question is then, did he/she make a good choice, an honorable choice? I can't disagree with what you say, but from the gitgo, it appears that good and honorable choices were scarce, and that continues to this day. Choices are made with maximum profit in mind. If you want to study a microcosm of all this, read Winona LaDuke's "All Our Relations: Native Struggles for Land and Life." The real tragedy of corporate control is that decisions are not only profit based, but essentially stupid as well. The "business mind" could be forgiven its lack of honor, if it could be relied upon for intelligence. Unfortunately that is not the case. The corporate view of the world is both narrow and astigmatic. When the corporate types sits down with elected government officials (usually former business people or attorneys), the welfare of the world gets short shrift. Everything becomes expendable--people, environment, justice--when it comes up against the bottom line. Prudy Prudy, Sweetie - "I can't disagree with what you say, but from the gitgo..." This is a big, fat 'Yes, BUT...' Furthermore, you are side-stepping with the stupid factor. Stupidity isn't a crime; it's just an assault to the senses. The first order of any business is to survive. How they choose to do that, at some point, boils down to individual choice - people yeaing or naying at meetings, a wink behind closed doors - whatever. If we are to rebuild this nation with honor and integrity it begins at home (that means you and me). While big, nasty corporations may do stupid, mean-spirited or even illegal acts to survive and excel, WE have a choice to support that or not. NO business can survive if they cannot sell their product even if that product is a service. As a consumer, you have power because you have the money businesses want. Another simple formula. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: If we are to rebuild this nation with honor and integrity it begins at home If we are to rebuild this nation with honor and integrity we must rebuild the world. What honor and integrety can we have if we consume the bulk of the world's resources while children the world over go hungry? What honor and integrety can we have if we dress in clothing made by virtual slaves working in sweatshops? What honor and integrety can we have if we hire bomber crews to rain death on anyone who stands in the way of our rulers' profits? You start by reducing the resources YOU use, joining programs that feed children, shopping wisely, and using your voice to halt "bomber crews to rain death on anyone who stands in the way of our rulers' profits." And you stop blaming everyone else for the part you play in this, keeping the problem(s) is some realm of being out of your control to address and therefore, why bother? Now, you may be doing all of these things, but your response didn't indicate that and suggests that it's the fault of the masses and the government and this is true, but ending the cycle begins with YOU and ME. I hear a lot of spewing on this list, but very little accountability. In short, I hear a lot of hot-air getting blasted around, but very few viable suggestions and little to no reporting on actions that are taken to rectify the issues that the individual postee spews about. I simply do not believe that anyone on this list is so helpless that he or she cannot effect some change. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/07/2000 10:50:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we are to rebuild this nation with honor and integrity it begins at home (that means you and me) I don't suspect for one moment, Hillary that you have both honor and integrity. You may also have a substantial amount of cash. Good luck on rebuilding this nation. Prudy I am unsure how you have concluded that I lack both honor and integrity by advocating individual responsibility and accountability. I think you need a dictionary. I don't blame corporate America for the pitfalls in my life. I make choices and I accept the consequences of those choices. And I would much prefer to rebuild this nation with those who are responsible and accountable for their actions than with those who only want to whine about it. If you don't like what is happening around you, change it - do something about it. Spending your time blaming and name calling only spews more hot air and doesn't accomplish anything constructive. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- "Hilary A. Thomas" wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- "Hilary A. Thomas" wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: A.C. Szul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:03 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay According to many economic and business indicators, more people today are better off financially than ever before. One of the reasons that the economy is doing so well is that people are spending more money than they make. A large percentage of the US population owes a significant amount of money (usually credit cards). This is a situation that will implode at some point. What happened to the concept of "cash and carry?" Hilary Cash and carry was much too limiting to satisfy the astonishing greed of the capitalists. Cash and carry was simply not an efficient enough system to transfer money from everyone to the rich. That is why everything moved to credit. With credit, the capitalists could reach into your future to extract wealth. It doesn't even matter if the system becomes unstable or even destroyed. Greed is easily satisfied by short term gratification. If society falls apart, what the hell do the rich care! They have enough of a wealth buffer to survive. Joshua2 That may be the plan for all those rich, evil capitalists, but they are not the ones in debt. It's individual choice to spend more money than one gets paid not those nasty suits. Responsibility and accountability. If we are demanding these qualities from our political leaders than we too have to own up to our stuff. I'm not dumping on you Joshua, it just bugs me when I hear everything blamed on big hairy corporations. Hilary But is is the fault of the Big Hairy Corporations. Under a capitalist system corporations overproduce. Easy credit allows people to spend what they don't have to buy stuff that they don't need because corporations NEED to get rid of their stuff. That includes loans. Well, do you NEED all that stuff? While it is ultimately true that the decision to buy on credit is made by the individual, it is unfair to shift the blame to the borrower/buyer because corporations ADVERTISE constantly. This is like putting a bottle in front of an alcoholic and blaming him for getting drunk. Oh please. Are you so helpless that you can't stop spending money on stuff you don't need or can't afford? Show a little backbone! Face it Hillary. The system sucks big time Of course the system sucks big time, but everytime you fork over a dollar to an undeserving company you hand over your power. Buisness lesson 101 - NO buisness can survive if they cannot sell their product. Really, I'm not making this stuff up. and soon we Americans will pay the price that the rest of the world has been paying for many years. This very well may be true. The source of all evil are the Rich elites. Yes, yes, yes. It's everyone else's fault. And no, I'm not one of the Rich. I count my pennies like everyone else. I just don't whine about it. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: Shopping at Wal-Mart
From James: Things people do at Wal-Mart while waiting while their honeys take his/her sweet time shopping..1. Get the boxes of condoms randomly put them in peoples' carts whenthey are not looking.2. Set all the alarm clocks to go off at 10 minute intervals.3. Make a trail of orange juice on the floor to the rest rooms.4. Walk up to an employee and tell him/her in an official tone, Ithink we have a Code 3 in house wares, and see what happens.5. Turn all the radios to a polka station, then turn them all off andturn the volumes to 10.6. Challenge other customers to duel with tubes of gift wrap.7. Put MM's on layaway.8. Move CAUTION-WET FLOOR signs to carpet areas.9. Set up a tent in the camping department; tell others you'll onlyinvite them if they bring pillows from the bedding department.10. When someone asks if they can help you, begin to cry and ask Whywon't you people leave me alone?11. Look right into the security camera and use it as a mirror while youpick your nose.12. Take up an entire aisle in toys by setting up a full scalebattlefield with GI Joe's and X-Men.13. Ask other customers if they have any Grey Poupon.14. While handling guns in the hunting department ask the clerk if heknows where the antidepressants are.15. Switch signs on the men's and women's bathrooms.16. Dart around suspiciously while humming the theme from MissionImpossible.17. Set up a Valet Parking sign out front.18. In the auto department practice your Madonna look using differentsize funnels.19. Hide in the clothing rack and when people browse through say, PICKME! PICK ME!!20. When an announcement comes over the loud speaker assume the fetalposition and scream, NO! NO! It's those voices again.21. Go to the food court, get a soft drink, tell them you don't get outmuch and would they put one of those little umbrellas in it.22. Go into the fitting room and yell real loud ...Hey we're out oftoilet paper in here!...Have a nice time at Wal-mart!
[CTRL] Top 12 Things Not To Say To A Cop
from Jeff: Top 12 Things Not To Say To A Copl. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.2. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.3. Aren't you the guy from the Village People?4. Hey, you must've been doin' about 125 mph to keep up with me. Good job!5. Are you Andy or Barney?6. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical condition to be a police officer.7. You're not gonna check the trunk are you?8. I pay your salary!9. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning too!10. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.11. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there are no other cars around. That's how far ahead of me they are.12. When the Officer says Son, Your eyes look red, have you been drinking? You probably shouldn't respond with, Officer, your eyes looked glazed, have you been eating donuts?
Re: [CTRL] Feral Dogma
-Caveat Lector- Got my vote. I'm really not interested in reading a bunch of Bible quotes tossed around. If I want some good old fashion Bible thumping, I'll call my brother. Kris can you hear me? Hilary -Original Message- From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Feral Dogma -Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Anybody in favor of making CTRL a dogma-free zone? Aye The list appears to need someone like Robert Anton Wilson with his finger on the buzzer. A capital suggestion. Why don't you ask him? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- "Hilary A. Thomas" wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: A.C. Szul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:03 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay According to many economic and business indicators, more people today are better off financially than ever before. One of the reasons that the economy is doing so well is that people are spending more money than they make. A large percentage of the US population owes a significant amount of money (usually credit cards). This is a situation that will implode at some point. What happened to the concept of "cash and carry?" Hilary Cash and carry was much too limiting to satisfy the astonishing greed of the capitalists. Cash and carry was simply not an efficient enough system to transfer money from everyone to the rich. That is why everything moved to credit. With credit, the capitalists could reach into your future to extract wealth. It doesn't even matter if the system becomes unstable or even destroyed. Greed is easily satisfied by short term gratification. If society falls apart, what the hell do the rich care! They have enough of a wealth buffer to survive. Joshua2 That may be the plan for all those rich, evil capitalists, but they are not the ones in debt. It's individual choice to spend more money than one gets paid not those nasty suits. Responsibility and accountability. If we are demanding these qualities from our political leaders than we too have to own up to our stuff. I'm not dumping on you Joshua, it just bugs me when I hear everything blamed on big hairy corporations. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 01/06/2000 5:45:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it just bugs me when I hear everything blamed on big hairy corporations. Why, Hilary? Almost everything bad can honestly be blamed on big "hairy" corporations. Politicians work for them and are well paid in the bargain. They are responsible and accountable to the corporations. Prudy Then these politicians are making individual choices to place their loyalties in the corporations and not to the people they are ostensibly in office to serve. I'm in no way denying that this is occurring - quite the contrary in fact. This is why I believe that these politician need to actually be held accountable for their actions - as all individuals need to be. Just because an offer is made by a corporation doesn't mean that the politicians, or anyone for that matter, has to accept it. So, we are back to individual choice, responsibility and accountability. It's pretty simple if you stick to an honorable "formula." You can throw all the confusion you want at it, but it boils down to individual choice. The question is then, did he/she make a good choice, an honorable choice? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: A.C. Szul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 12:03 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Media Bias Against Business Here To Stay According to many economic and business indicators, more people today are better off financially than ever before. One of the reasons that the economy is doing so well is that people are spending more money than they make. A large percentage of the US population owes a significant amount of money (usually credit cards). This is a situation that will implode at some point. What happened to the concept of "cash and carry?" Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y2K non-event
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, January 01, 2000 3:48 PM Subject: [CTRL] Y2K non-event -Caveat Lector- I must say that while I AM happy that I have power, my water is running, the Internet didn't crash, I have heat, and my cable still works, along with the phones, I must say that I am damned disappointed that civilization as we know it did NOT come to an end and that the moneyed elite and banks did not crash and burn because of widespread outages and the like. Damn! Just when you start to think that something is going to happen, it turns out to be another insignificant event, perhaps exploited or even arranged by the powers that be to foster some new agenda. Oh, well, I guess I gotta go back to work tommorrow. . . . Don't despair. There are still plenty of doomsday events to believe in!!! Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Signoff CTRL
-Caveat Lector- Happy Birthday and Holiday season. I too will miss your posts, but I do understand well the need for an occasional break. Rest well and come back soon! Hilary In a message dated 12/24/99 5:36:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, it's the holidays (Y2K is my birthday) and I'm busting my goat-butt at work with little time left over, and I seem to be plagued each day now with a barrage of e-mails from outraged proponents of crackpot "experts" like Sitchin, and now this "Acharya," who's vowed to personally bombard me with her spurious arguments and quasi-facts until I "give in" or else give up -- which to her would mean I'd "given in" -- and I just don't have the time, energy, or inclination anymore to waste what little is left of my "life of the mind" in sparring matches with inmates of that "information-age" insane asylum called the Internet ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China spy manual backs Cox report
-Caveat Lector- MONDAY DECEMBER 20 1999 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19991220_xex_china_spy_ma.shtml WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS China spy manual backs Cox report Describes techno-theft through bribery, hacking, recruitment © 1999 Human Events Editor's note: Each week, in conjunction with the hard-hitting Washington, D.C. newsweekly Human Events, WND brings you this special report. Readers can subscribe to Human Events, at a special discounted rate, through WorldNetDaily's online store. The Chinese government has confirmed - in writing - that it relied on information derived from U.S. sources to develop its nuclear weapons technology. When a similar conclusion was unanimously reached by the special select committee on Chinese military technology acquisitions chaired last year by Rep. Chris Cox, R.-Calif., it was criticized by the Clinton administration and, more recently, by a committee of professors sponsored by Stanford University. A report in the Dec. 23 issue of the Far Eastern Economic Review reveals that U.S. intelligence experts are now studying a 361-page Chinese government publication titled, "Sources and Methods of Obtaining National Defence Science and Technology." The book was written by Huo Zhonwen and Wang Zongxiao, who describe themselves in the preface as teachers at China's National Defense Science and Technology Information Center, which is a People's Liberation Army-run school in Beijing that instructs Chinese intelligence agents in how to gather technology intelligence wanted by the Chinese military. Amazingly, the book was openly published and sold in the Chinese language in 1991 and went unnoticed by U.S. intelligence agencies for eight years. "Analysts who have seen the book describe it as 'shocking,' and as one of the most important intelligence documents to have emerged on China's military espionage activities since the country launched economic reforms in 1978," reports FEER. "It belies China's claim that it uses indigenous research to develop military technology. It also details how China maintains a thorough system of gathering intelligence from abroad for military purposes, and that the U.S. is the prime focus of that effort." The authors write that the book was put together "with the help of many comrades at the center's liaison office" and that "one of the most important purposes of the book" is "as a reference for those involved in gathering national defense science and technology materials." The authors concluded that about 80 percent of the technology intelligence needed by the Chinese military could be found in open sources, but that 20 percent could be discovered only in classified sources. They paid special attention to U.S. government agencies, including the Energy Department, which overseas U.S. nuclear weapons laboratories. "Detailed explanations are given of technical information sources in the U.S. government," reports FEER, "including Congress, the Department of Defense, the Department of Energy, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and the National Technical Information Service. The types of reports issued by each are listed, as well as details of the classification levels of the reports based on their serial numbers." "Classified materials, it says," according to FEER, "can also be obtained through personal relationships, bribes or computer hacking. It describes how at the time of writing, Beijing's DSTIC was setting up a database of 'famous scientists' overseas, including details of their home addresses and 'whether they have ever visited China.'" FEER goes on to say, "The book also provides a glimpse into China's decision in the early 1980s to abandon attempts to develop indigenous military technologies in favor of a massive effort to obtain such technologies from abroad." A federal prosecutor in New Mexico last week indicted Wen Ho Lee, a scientist at the Energy Department's Los Alamos laboratory (who had once visited China), on charges that he had criminally mishandled some of the nation's most sensitive nuclear secrets. Lee denies that he was a spy for the Communist Chinese or gave secret data to anyone. © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com, Inc. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] Did humans lose a sixth sense?
-Caveat Lector- From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about ESP, but I can personally attest to the FACT that we DID NOT LOSE the effectiveness of the pheromone sensing organ. I had an intense relationship with a woman I lived with for a few years. We eventually broke up and she returned a work shirt of mine which she wore a lot. Of course she had laundered it first, but I easily detected her scent. This may not seem unusual, but I could continue to do that for YEARS afterward even after normal usage as a work shirt by me. I speculate that the sense is always there and at work, but is overlaid by our regular sense of smell. Joshua2 Research has shown that the one constant in partners staying together is liking each other's personal aroma. Conversely, couples tend to split if they don't like how their partner smells. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Free Anti-virus Y2K Fix-it Downloads
-Caveat Lector- Hi All, I've collected some links to various downloads from people who posted the information. 1) InnoculateIt is a free anti-viral program that runs in real time (thus continually) and will scan on boot-up. This is not a demo and free upgrades are available by going to the website. The link is below. Go about half way down the page and click onto: Free Antivirus For Personal Use http://www.cai.com/products/inoculateit.htm 2) Free Y2K Fix it program. Remember you will have to run and execute some files once you complete the install. If you have done it correctly, when you re-boot the fix-it program will state and you will be told that it has completed successfully. Software that fixes both your computer software and your hardware is now FREE. Your entirely FREE full version of Y2KPro2000: http://www.affiliatepro.com/referral.cfm?RID=AP2019 3) Free program if you use Windows 95 or 98 - Makes your Internet access up to five times faster. SkyLam Intelli-Dial-UP 2.51 Free 1,900K Get it now: http://sites.netscape.net/skylam88/Disable35T.zip More Info: http://members.home.net/skylam/2000/intellidialupmain.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] what to say at job interviews
-Caveat Lector- These are some of the best I've seen so far. Thanks, Hilary -- From: Taylor, John (JH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] what to say at job interviews Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 5:51 AM -Caveat Lector- THESE ARE TAKEN FROM REAL RESUMES AND COVER LETTERS AND WERE PRINTED IN FORTUNE MAGAZINE: 01. "I demand a salary commiserate with my extensive experience." 02. "I have lurnt Word Perfect 6.0 computor and spreasheet progroms." 03 "Received a plague for Salesperson of the Year." 04. "Wholly responsible for two (2) failed financial institutions." 05. "Reason for leaving last job: maturity leave." 06. "Failed bar exam with relatively high grades." 07. "It's best for employers that I not work with people." 08. "Let's meet, so you can 'ooh' and 'aah' over my experience." 09. "You will want me to be Head Honcho in no time." 10. "Am a perfectionist and rarely if if ever forget details." 11. "I was working for my mom until she decided to move." 12. "Marital status: single. Unmarried. Unengaged. Uninvolved. No commitments." 13. "I have an excellent track record, although I am not a horse." 14. "I am loyal to my employer at all costs Please feel free to respond to my resume on my office voice mail." 15. "I have become completely paranoid, trusting completely no one and absolutely nothing." 16. "My goal is to be a meteorologist. But since I possess no training in meteorology, I suppose I should try stock brokerage." 17. "I procrastinate, especially when the task is unpleasant." 18. "Personal interests: donating blood. Fourteen gallons so far." 19. "As indicted, I have over five years of analyzing investments." 20. "Instrumental in ruining entire operation for a Midwest chain store." 21. "Note: Please don't misconstrue my 14 jobs as 'job-hopping'. I"ve never quit a job." 22. "Marital status: often. Children: various." 23. "Reason for leaving last job: They insisted that all employees get to work by 8:45 am every morning. I couldn't work under those conditions." 24. "The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers." 25. "Finished eighth in my class of ten." 26. "References: none. I've left a path of destruction behind me." THESE QUOTES WERE TAKEN FROM ACTUAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS: 01. "Since my last report, this employee has reached rock bottom and has started to dig." 02 "His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity." 03. "I would not allow this employee to breed." 04. "This associate is really not so much of a has-been, but more of a definitely won't be." 05. "Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a rat in a trap." 06. "When she opens her mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there." 07. "He would be out of his depth in a parking lot puddle." 08. "This young lady has delusions of adequacy." 09. "He sets low personal standards and then consistently fails to achieve them." 10. "This employee is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot." 11. "This employee should go far - and the sooner he starts, the better." THESE ARE ACTUAL LINES FROM MILITARY PERFORMANCE APPRAISALS OR O.E.R.s (OFFICER EFFICIENCY REPORTS): 01. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. 02. Got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching. 03. A room temperature IQ. 04. Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thingy to hold it all together. 05. A gross ignoramus -- 144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus. 06. A photographic memory but with the lens cover glued on. 07. A prime candidate for natural deselection. Bright as Alaska in December. 08. One-celled organisms out score him in IQ tests. 09. Donated his body to science before he was done using it. 10. Fell out of the family tree. 11. Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming. 12. Has two brains; one is lost and the other is out looking for it. 13. He's so dense, light bends around him. 14. If brains were taxed, he'd get a rebate. 15. If he were any more stupid, he'd have to be watered twice a week. 16. If you give him a penny for his thoughts, you'd get change. 17. If you stand close enough to him, you can hear the ocean. 18. It's hard to believe that he beat out 1,000,000 other sperm. 19. One neuron short of a synapse. 20. Some drink from the fountain of knowledge; he only gargled. 21. Takes him 1-1/2 hours to watch 60 minutes. 22. Wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used
[CTRL] Russia Launches Missile, Warns West... Whaaaa???
-Caveat Lector- http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991214/ts/russia_missile_test_3.html Tuesday December 14 8:08 PM ET Russia Launches Missile, Warns West By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV Associated Press Writer MOSCOW (AP) - Russia launched a new strategic missile Tuesday and used the occasion to warn the West against criticizing its campaign in the breakaway republic of Chechnya. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who witnessed the test, said Russia ``will use all diplomatic and military-political levers in its disposal,'' to confront Western opposition. Putin's comments came in a speech to military officers at the Plesetsk launch pad in northwestern Russia, after the successful test-firing of a Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missile. The missile was launched from Plesetsk and flew across Russia, hitting its target on the Kamchatka peninsula, some 3,400 miles to the east. ``The diplomatic levers are clear, and as for military ones, Tuesday's successful launch of the Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missile is one of them,'' Putin said, according to Russian news agencies. Putin's warning followed last week's tough statement from President Boris Yeltsin, who reminded President Clinton that ``Russia is a great power that possesses a nuclear arsenal.'' Yeltsin was reacting to U.S. criticism of the Chechnya campaign. Putin at the time sought to moderate Yeltsin's statement, saying that Russia and the United States have good relations, but his statement Friday sounded as harsh as Yeltsin's. ``No one can accuse the government of inappropriate use of anti-terrorist measures in Chechnya, call Russia an aggressor or an occupier,'' Putin said. The United States and other Western nations have criticized Moscow for excessive use of force in Chechnya, causing civilian casualties and the exodus of over 230,000 refugees. ``Some nations and blocs under cover of international organizations are interfering into affairs of independent states, and trying to speak to them in the language of force,'' Putin said. ``We are not used to such language, since Russia has a nuclear shield.'' Putin also warned the United States against trying to modify the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty to build anti-missile defenses. Washington says such a defense system is intended to protect the United States from possible missile attacks by rogue nations and wouldn't be capable of deflecting a massive nuclear attack of the kind Russia is capable of launching. But Moscow dismisses the argument and warns that attempts to amend the treaty could trigger a new arms race. The Russian military has said that fitting multiple warheads to the Topol-M missiles would be a part of Moscow's response if the United States walks out of the treaty. Russia is pinning the future of its missile program on the Topol-M. Most of its other long-range missiles are either past their service lifetime or will have to be dismantled if the country ratifies the START-II nuclear disarmament treaty. Unlike Russia's older missiles, the Topol-M is a relatively small, mobile missile designed to be fired from trucks or other vehicles, making it difficult for potential enemies to locate and track. Earlier Stories Russia Launches Strategic Missile (December 14) Russia Test-Fires Ballistic Missile (December 14) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] TVA approved to make bomb material at commercial reactor
-Caveat Lector- Some time last year I did some research and came across TVA. I've since deleted all my files and don't remember the details, but I seem to recall that I found a connection between TVA and Richard Mellon Scaife. Hilary -- From: Richard Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] TVA approved to make bomb material at commercial reactor Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 11:49 AM -Caveat Lector- http://www.oakridger.com/stories/120899/stt_1208990027.html Story last updated at 12:29 p.m. on Wednesday, December 8, 1999 TVA approved to make bomb material at commercial reactor by Duncan Mansfield Associated Press DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Neurotoxic Symptoms In Chemical Warfare Casualties At Seattle WTO Meeting
-Caveat Lector- Why would neurotoxins be used? If gas masks were "outlawed" tear gas would take care of the job. I've read a number of posts about neurotoxins, but there is no mention of why...It seems like an extreme measure to me... Hilary Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/wto/chemwar.htm Neurotoxic Symptoms In Chemical Warfare Casualties At Seattle WTO Meeting by Kirk James Murphy, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10:04am Tue Dec 7 '99 Direct Action Network Medical Collective members provided first aid and other care for thousands of casualties of chemical warfare during the Seattle WTO protests. Collective members identified a subset of casualties with symptoms consistent with exposure to neurotoxins which disrupt acetylcholine. Irritant agents do not explain the symptoms. The Direct Action Network Medical Collective was organized to provide first aid and other health services to activists and others (onlookers, media, residents, and anyone else requesting assistance) in Seattle for the WTO meeting last week. The Collective members rovided care for literally hundreds of chemical warfare casualties on both November 30 and December 1; hundreds more have requested information and treatment in subsequent days. As one may imagine, Collective members have acquired extensive expertise in the recognitio and treatment of symptoms arising from exposure to pepper spray (OC) and "tear gases" (CS and CN). Individuals exposed to chemical weapons in the late afternoon and evening of December 1st at two locations downtown blocks adjacent to Pike Place Market and the Seattle neighborhood of Capitol Hill evinced and reported a pattern of symptoms which is inconsistent with the pattern of symptoms which may be ascribed to irritating agents. This "atypical" pattern of symptoms includes the rapid onset of: mydriasis (pupillary dilation) with resultant impairment of visual acuity; tachycardia (rapid heart rate) with some palpitations; new-onset hypertension (high blood pressure) in one individual; nausea, vomiting, diarrhea (persisting for days after exposure); abrupt or immediate onset of menstruation (asynchronous with usual menstrual cycle); muscular fasciculation (twitches); muscular dyscoordination; lethargy, confusion, disorientation, diminished concentration, nocturnal hallucinations. Moreover, some casualties reported an abrupt experience of loss of muscular tone and strength that sometimes (but not always) immediately preceded a loss of consciousness; one observer of these affected individuals reported uncontrolled, spasmodic movements in those affected. Some individuals exposed in the Pike Place Market area reported that the aforementioned symptoms came immediately after exposure to a non-irritating agent which was did not cause pain, lacrimation, or burning on mucous membranes. At least one individual complaining of fasciculations and cognitive impairment days after exposure reported resolution of both symptoms for a duration of approximately five to six hours within twenty to thirty minutes after treatment with 10 mg of the specific antidote dicyclomine (Bentyl) - an anticholinergic medication which crosses the blood-brain barrier and hence can relieve central nervous symptoms of excessive cholinergic activity as well as relieving peripheral symptoms of the same etiology. The pattern of symptoms is not consistent with known mechanisms of action of the irritant chemical weapons OC, CS, or CN. The pattern, however, is consistent with disruption of neurotransmitter activity. Lamentably, the single most compelling explanation for the observed findings is the (deliberate or accidental) inclusion of "incapacitating agents" which disrupt neuronal function in the chemical munitions discharged by law enforcement agencies in Seattle during the WTO protest. While direct cholinergic effects or indirect (inhibition of acetylcholinesterase) effects arising from synergistic combinations (of OC, CS, and CN) cannot be ruled out at this time, the experience and observations Medical Collective members, together with the aforementioned information, appears to most robustly support the hypothesis that the casualties described above resulted from exposure to cholinesterase inhibitors used as chemical weapons in crowd control. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported on December 4 that the Seattle Police Department had to replenish its chemical weapons stocks by going to outside sources. Various individuals have reported being told by individual law enforcement officers that chemical weapons in addition to OC, CS, and CN were deployed by various entities; these anecdotal accounts are not yet confirmed. Any information regarding the use of chemical munitions in addition to OC, CS or CN, as well as information regarding the discharge of chemical weapons by agencies other than the Seattle Police
[CTRL] Calories Burned Calculator
-Caveat Lector- Calories Burned Calculator http://www.drkoop.com/tools/calculator/bmi.asp Body Mass Index Calculator http://www.drkoop.com/tools/calculator/bmi.asp DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: Politically Correct Season's Greeting
-Caveat Lector- Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all . . . A n d a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2000, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "AMERICA" in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee. (By accepting this greeting you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.) DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NSA Drafts 'Memoranda of Understanding' To Work With FBI in the U.S.
-Caveat Lector- Newsweek: National Security Agency Drafts 'Memoranda of Understanding' To Work With FBI in the U.S.; NEWSWEEK This is the cover for the December 13 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, December 6 ). Newsweek looks at last week's WTO meetings in Seattle and the new face of protests in the U.S. There are also reports on the Internet "Brain Drain" and its effects on main stream businesses, troubles at the National Security Agency behind the "techno-curve," rapper Jay Z's arrest after last week's stabbing of a record executive, Columbine principal speaks about his school's recovery from last spring's shooting rampage and the mystery surrounding the death of billionaire Edmond Safra. (PRNewsFoto)[KI] NEW YORK, NY USA 12/04/1999 May Be Falling Behind the Techno-Curve in Surveillance Techniques NEW YORK, Dec. 5 /PRNewswire/ -- The National Security Agency is now drafting "memoranda of understanding" to clarify ways in which it can help the FBI track terrorists and criminals in the United States, territory in which it is generally off-limits, Newsweek has learned. The FBI, never known for its technical know-how, welcomes the help from the high-tech NSA, but some senators are uneasy about letting the NSA eavesdrop more in the United States, report Washington Correspondent Gregory Vistica and Assistant Managing Editor Evan Thomas in the current issue of Newsweek. (Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19991204/HSSA003 ) While a secret court must approve any national-security wiretaps on U.S. citizens, there is still the risk of abuse. Under pressure to perform better, the NSA and CIA could overreach. Under the existing rules, the NSA and CIA are supposed to spy on foreign threats while the FBI tends to crime at home. But the Internet has blurred boundaries, and as the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 demonstrated, foreign terrorists have targeted the United States. But the NSA may be losing its grip on the technology front. "The agency has got to make some changes," because "by standing still, we are going to fall behind very quickly," concedes Air Force Lt. Gen. Mike Hayden, the new chief of the NSA, in an interview with Newsweek. The old tools, such as spy satellites and global-listening stations to pick up broadcast transmissions and massive computers to sort and decipher them, are relatively ineffective on the new Info Highway. The agency's problems have already been costly. The intelligence community's failure to predict that India would test a nuclear weapon in 1998 suggests that the NSA is becoming hard of hearing. Some intelligence experts speculate that Washington has had difficulty finding its most-wanted terrorist, Osama bin Laden, because Islamic extremists use European-made encrypted mobile phones, reports Newsweek in the December 13 issue (on newsstands Monday, December 6). SOURCE Newsweek Web Site: http://www.newsweek.com Photo Notes: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19991204/HSSA003 or NewsCom, 213-237-5431; AP PhotoExpress Network, PRN1; PressLink Online, 800-888-6195 http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/12-0 5-1999/0001088875EDATE= ©1996-1999 PR Newswire. All rights reserved. Redistribution, retransmission, republication or commercial exploitation of the contents of this site are expressly prohibited without the written consent of PR Newswire. These pages have been optimized for Netscape v.2.0 or later DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Aggravating email chain letter humor from Jeff Rense
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If you have ever received an aggravating email chain letter, the
following commentary/rant will probably be fun... (note: the
expletives and racy words have been sanitized in this version)
Hello, my name is Basmati Kasaar. I am suffering from rare
and deadly diseases, poor scores on final exams, extreme
virginity, fear of being kidnapped and executed by anal
electrocution, and guilt for not forwarding out 50 billion
chain letters sent to me by people who actually believe that
if you send them on, that poor 6 year old girl in Arkansas
with a breast on her forehead will be able to raise enough
money to have it removed before her redneck parents sell her
off to the travelling freak show. Do you honestly believe
that Bill Gates is going to give you and everyone you send
this email to $1000? How stupid are you? Ooooh, looky here!
If I scroll down this page and make a wish, every Playboy
Bunny in the magazine'll visit me! What a bunch of B.S.!
So, basically, this message is a big * to all the people
out there who have nothing better to do than to send me
stupid chain mail forwards. Maybe the evil chain letter
leprechauns will come into my apartment and terrorize me in
my sleep for not continuing the chain which was started by
Jesus in 5 A.D. and was brought to this country by midget
pilgrims on the Mayflower and if it makes it to the year
2000, it'll be in the Guinness Book of World Records for
longest continuous streak of blatant stupidity. If you're
going to forward something, at least send me something
mildly amusing.
I've seen all the "send this to 50 of your closest friends,
and this poor, wretched excuse for a human being will somehow
receive a Nickel from some "omniscient being" forwards about
90 times. I don't give a damn! Show a little intelligence and
think about what you're actually contributing to by sending
out forwards. Chances are it's your own unpopularity.
THE FOUR BASIC TYPES OF CHAIN LETTERS:
Chain Letter Type 1:
(scroll down)
Make a wish!!!
Keep Scrolling
No, really, go on and make one!!!
Oh please, they'll never go out with you!!!
Wish something else!!!
Not that, you pervert!!
STOP
Wasn't that fun? :)
Hope you made a great wish :)
Now, to make you feel guilty, here's what I'll do. First of
all, if you don't send this to 5096 people in the next 5
seconds, you will be assaulted by a mad goat and thrown off
a high building into a pile of manure. It's true! Because,
THIS letter isn't like those fake ones, THIS one is TRUE!!
Really!!! Here's how it goes:
*Send this to 1 person: One person will be pissed off at you
for sending them a stupid chain letter.
*Send this to 2-5 people: 2-5 people will be pissed off at you for
sending them a stupid chain letter.
*Send this to 5-10 people: 5-10 people will be pissed off at
you for sending them a stupid chain letter, and may form a
plot on your life.
*Send this to 10-20 people: 10-20 people will be pissed off at you
for sending them a stupid chain letter and will napalm your house.
Thanks Good Luck!!!
Chain Letter Type 2
Hello, and thank you for reading this letter. You see, there
is a starving little boy in Baklaliviatatlaglooshen who has no
arms, no legs, no parents, and no goats. This little boy's life
could be saved, because for every time you pass this on, a dollar
will be donated to the Little Starving Legless Armless Goatless Boy
from Baklaliviatatlaglooshen Fund. Oh, and remember, we have
absolutely no way of counting the emails sent and this is all a
complete load of B.S. So go on, reach out. Send this to 5 people in
the next 47 seconds. Oh, and a reminder - if you accidentally send
this to 4 or 6 people, you will die instantly. Thanks again!!
Chain Letter Type 3
Hi there!! This chain letter has been in existence since 1897. This
is absolutely incredible because there was no email then and
probably not as many sad jerks with nothing better to do. So this
is how it works... Pass this on to 15,067 people in the next 7
minutes or something horrible will happen to you like:
*Bizarre Horror Story #1
Miranda Pinsley was walking home from school on Saturday. She
had recently received this letter and ignored it. She then
tripped in a crack in the
[CTRL] Secret Evidence Stereotypes
-Caveat Lector- Secret Evidence Stereotypes Dateline: 12/02/99 The Nasser Ahmed affair, recently resolved, illustrates two horrible aspects of American law: first, the notion that secret evidence is permissible in a democratic society; second, that some kinds of discrimination are still allowed in the United States. If you havent been following this story, Ahmed is an Arab who had been held until November 30 in solitary confinement by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) pending a judicial order for deportation based on his alleged association with a known terrorist organization. Since 1996, he had been held, having never been charged and never permitted to confront the evidence presented against him. Finally, the evidence was presented to a federal immigration judge (although never to Ahmed or his lawyer) who ordered his release. Even after the Board of Immigration Appeals sided again with Ahmed, the INS continued its appeal, asking the Attorney General, Janet Reno, to overrule the two judicial entities. Ultimately and without stated reason, the INS gave up its appeal and allowed Ahmed to go free. This is a major threat to the liberty of all people living in the United States. The idea of the government being able to present secret evidence that you cannot review ought to scare you to death. It is also a perversion of the Constitutional protections guaranteed to all who appear in American courts. The Sixth Amendment guarantees that all accused persons in criminal trials shall have the right to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him. U.S. Const. amd. VI. It is true that deporting a non-citizen is not a criminal trial, but the proceeding is so similar to a criminal trial (complete with a penalty for those found guilty) that it ought to be treated as such constitutionally. As important as the constitutional issues are the societal issues raised by this case. For some reason, discrimination against some groups is acceptable in the United States. Of course it has probably always been that way -- Polish jokes have been circulating for years, for example. But when that discrimination rises to the level of imprisoning members of the group for no cause other than what would be shown by secret evidence if only they could show it to you, an unacceptable barrier has been breached. The Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee reports that almost all of the individuals facing deportation without charge and on the basis of secret evidence are Arabs. This situation is intolerable. It is a threat to everybodys liberty that the government is permitted on the basis of secret evidence and racial stereotypes to imprison or deport anybody. Although it is easy to disagree with the American Civil Liberties Union in many cases, they are correct in labeling this case a tragedy. http://arabculture.about.com/culture/arabculture/library/weekly/aa120299.ht m DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israel Builds China's First AWACS Aircraft
-Caveat Lector- Let me see if I have this correct. We pour billions of dollars in Israel and they build war machines for China. China has been toying with the US for years re: going to war and may yet pull us into one via North Korea. Well, isn't this just dandy... Hilary -- From: Bill Kingsbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://208.138.42.193/forum/a3846aad804bf.htm Israel Builds China's First AWACS Aircraft Source: Aviation Week Space Technology Published: November 29, 1999 Author: David A. Fulghum DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.N. crimes court gets support without U.S.
-Caveat Lector- "The United States has resigned itself to the eventual creation -- over Washington's objections" That would be Clinton. "Mr. Scheffer said the U.S. delegation was still hoping to secure language in the treaty that would provide protection for Americans..." In other words, we'll sign it as long as we are not held accountable. This also sounds like Clinton. "In voting against the court's creation, the United States was joined by a curious collection of nations: Iraq, Libya, Israel, Russia, China and India." Well, doesn't that say it all.. Hilary Source: The Washington Times http://www.washtimes.com/ U.N. crimes court gets support without U.S. http://www.washtimes.com/internatl/internatl1.html By Betsy Pisik THE WASHINGTON TIMES NEW YORK The United States has resigned itself to the eventual creation -- over Washington's objections -- of a U.N. International Criminal Court to be modeled after war crimes tribunals for Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia. Even if the United States does not ratify the treaty, American citizens will be subject to arrest and trial as the treaty document is now drafted. International backing for the court became apparent this week as legal experts gathered at the United Nations to discuss fine print in a treaty that would establish the world judicial body. David Scheffer, assistant secretary of state for war crimes issues, acknowledged that the court is on track, even in the United States. "We expect many nations to ratify by the end of next year," he told The Washington Times. He also said that the presence of many U.S. allies on the court would ratchet up pressure on the United States to join, but added: "We're never going to sign a treaty we can't support." The United States voted against creating the court last summer, saying that the structure of the tribunal would not protect American troops from frivolous or politically motivated indictments and prosecutions. Although 90 nations have already signed the treaty, only five have formally ratified the document. Ratification by 60 nations is required for the tribunal to begin working -- something experts expect to happen within the next two years. Mr. Scheffer said the U.S. delegation was still hoping to secure language in the treaty that would provide protection for Americans -- enough that the United States could eventually join. He said negotiators were hoping to make strong provisions for national prosecutions that would pre-empt the international tribunal's jurisdiction. They are also hoping to define agreed-upon crimes and rules of procedure in such a way that U.S. troops would be highly unlikely to ever be called before the court. Mr. Scheffer said Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright was discussing the tribunal with her counterparts in numerous foreign ministries. In voting against the court's creation, the United States was joined by a curious collection of nations: Iraq, Libya, Israel, Russia, China and India. But supporters range from Germany to South Africa to Australia: an increasingly diverse and powerful bloc of nations that experts say will provide the political leadership and financial heft to ease concerns of smaller and more cautious nations. All of the European Union has signed the treaty, and Italy has ratified it. The German government on Tuesday announced that it would ratify the treaty but did not say when. France has committed to ratifying it within the next few months. The governments of Britain, Canada and the Netherlands say they will complete ratification within the next year. The entire European Union is expected to approve the statute by the end of 2000, said a statement read by a diplomat from Finland. Finland currently holds the rotating EU presidency. The European Union has promised financial and legal assistance to the court, to be located in The Hague. The court will prosecute allegations of war crimes, genocide and other crimes against humanity, and will do so without direct authorization of the U.N. Security Council, where the United States holds a veto. Although it has no enforcement mechanism, all nations -- including the United States -- would be subject to the international court's jurisdiction, the treaty document says. This means that all nations will be required to comply with the court's demands for information, evidence, witnesses and suspects, the treaty says. "We cannot recognize the court's competence in bringing prosecutions against U.S. personnel engaged in official actions when the U.S. government is not a party," Mr. Scheffer told the U.N. legal committee in October. The court will not be retroactive, but the existing tribunals for Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia will eventually be rolled under its umbrella. The financing of the court has not been decided, but many nations hope that the bulk of the court's expenses -- particularly in the start-up years -- will be paid from the U.N. regular budget. This means that
[CTRL] Chernobyl nuclear reactor closed after radioactive leak
-Caveat Lector- Now here's a surprise! Hilary Chernobyl nuclear reactor closed after radioactive leak Source: AFP | Published: Friday December 3 3:39:41 AM KIEV, Dec 2 - The newly re-opened third reactor at Chernobyl, the site of the world's worst nuclear disaster in 1986, has been shut down because of a malfunction in its emergency cooling system, a plant spokesman said today. "A leak was detected Wednesday night in the pipes transporting radioactive water and used to cool down the third reactor," the Chernobyl spokesman said, adding however that no increase in radioactivity was recorded. Reactor number three, which is the only one in operation at the plant, was reopened on November 26 after five months of work to ensure the plant's safety. The repair work included checking and reinforcing the reactor's pipe system, which was discovered in recent years to be riddled with hundreds of cracks. An environment ministry official said the leak proved the dilapidated plant was a ticking time-bomb that threatened the whole of Europe. "We're shocked. The plant has got to be shut down for safety reasons. We cannot put the lives of the population in danger," Vadim Grichenko said. Grichenko said Kiev was still waiting to find out if it would receive the $US3.1 billion ($A4.75 billion) dollar compensation handouts promised by the G7 group of industrialised nations, in return for closing the plant by the year 2000. "It is vitally important for us to know whether we are going to get this money. However, for now the safety issue has to over-ride all financial considerations," Grichenko said. The plant spokesman said the reactor was scheduled to start functioning again on December 8. An independent expert said the lack of funds meant the repair work carried out on the reactor had been shoddy. "Everything has been done in a hurry," Georgy Kochinsky said. Reactor number four melted down on April 26, 1986, spreading a radioactive cloud over much of Europe and claiming between 3000 and 12,000 lives, according to Ukrainian authorities. Reactor number two was shut down in 1991 after a fire, and reactor number one was taken out of service in 1996 as part of an international agreement to decommission the plant. http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/9912/03/A13929-1999Dec3.shtml DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FDA Contradicted Own Experts in Approving Genetically Engineered Foods
-Caveat Lector- Lawsuit Uncovers Disagreement Within FDA Over Safety of Biotech Foods Agency Contradicted Own Experts in Approving Genetically Engineered Foods Misrepresented Facts in Order to Promote U.S. Biotech Industry Statement by Steven M. Druker, JD, executive director of the Alliance for Bio-Integrity, coordinator of the lawsuit against the FDA to obtain mandatory safety testing and labeling of genetically engineered foods, and an attorney on the case (in collaboration with the legal department of the Center for Food Safety in Washington, D.C.) Prying Out the Facts Through Litigation In May 1998, a coalition of public interest groups, scientists, and religious leaders filed a landmark lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to obtain mandatory safety testing and labeling of all genetically engineered foods (Alliance for Bio-Integrity, et. al. v. Shalala). Nine eminent life scientists joined the coalition in order to emphasize the degree to which they think FDA policy is scientifically unsound and morally irresponsible. Now, the FDA's own files confirm how well-founded are their concerns. The FDA was required to deliver copies of these files--totalling over 44,000 pages--to the plaintiffs' attorneys. Full story: http://www.biointegrity.org/FDADeception.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lawsuit Uncovers Disagreement Within FDA Over Safety of Biotech Foods
afe through testing prior to marketing. While the FDA admits that bioengineered organisms fall under this provision, it claims they are exempt from testing because they are "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS), even though it knows they are not recognized as safe even by its own scientists let alone by a consensus in the scientific community. Further, the statute prescribes that additives like those in bioengineered foods can only be recognized as safe on the basis of tests that have established their harmlessness. But no such tests exist for gene-spliced foods. So, although the GRAS exemption was intended to permit marketing of substances whose safety has already been demonstrated through testing, the FDA is using it to circumvent testing and to approve substances based largely on conjecture--conjecture that is dubious in the eyes of its own and many other experts. Consequently, every genetically engineered food in the U.S. is on the market illegally and should be recalled for rigorous safety testing. The FDA has deliberately unleashed a host of potentially harmful foods onto American dinner tables in blatant violation of U.S. law. For more information contact: Steven Druker (515) 472-5554. http://www.biointegrity.org/FDADeception.html --- ONElist Sponsor GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/gator4 "Click Here/a InTheShadows is a discussion list dedicated to keeping up-to-date with new technologies, advancements in medicine, environmental concerns, 'conspiracy theories', politics, and, of course, UFO stuff. Discussion is encouraged. Bashing and soapboxing will get you bounced off the list. To subscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Moderator: Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Earn 50 cents an hour viewing ads on your screen. Go to: https://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refrid=EPA-317 Earn cash viewing ads on your screen. Go to: http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911 View more ads and get paid. Go to: http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refld=161855 Earn money with a mini browser and still keep your current one. Go to: http://valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary Money for reading email: Go to: http://www.moneyformail.com/home.asp?ref=HilaryT More $ to read mail. Go to: http://www.totale-mail.com/referralentry.asp?Referrer=HilaryT Thanks! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LANDMARK LAWSUIT CHALLENGES FDA POLICY
, Professor of Molecular Biology at Maharishi University of Management. Recipient of Research Career Development Award from the National Cancer Institute. Has written extensively on the hazards of genetic engineering. Gained world-wide attention in 1994 when he returned a $613,000 grant to the NIH as an ethical stand against genetic engineering. Dr. Liebe Cavalieri, Molecular Biologist, Professor, Division of Natural Sciences, State University of New York at Purchase. Has written extensively on biotechnology issues. Dr. David Ehrenfeld, Professor of Biology, Rutgers University. Has written on the dangers of genetically engineered foods. Dr. David Fankhauser, Professor of Biology and Chemistry, University of Cincinnati. Hanif Khalak, Computational Biologist, The Institute for Genomic Research, Rockville, MD. Though he does research that facilitates applications of biotechnology for curing human disease, he thinks that the current applications of biotech in food production are based in scientifically flawed assumptions. Dr. Gary Kaplan, MD, PhD, Director of Clinical Neurophysiology, North Shore University Hospital; Assoc. Professor of Clinical Neurology, NYU School of Medicine. Dr. Rama Dwivedi, Associate Director, Targeted Mutagenics, Department of Pediatrics, Northwestern University Medical School. Although he performs biotechnology for medical purposes, he believes that the program to genetically reconfigure food organisms, as currently conducted, is unsound. PLAINTIFFS WITH RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS TO GENE-ALTERED FOODS There are seventeen plaintiffs who object to consuming genetically engineered foods on the basis of religious principle. Many of them are listed below. Christian Clergy 1. The Rev. Dr. Colin B. Gracey, (Episcopalian) head of the Religious Life Office at Northeastern University in Boston and University Chaplain. 2. The Rev. Dr. Donald B. Conroy, (Roman Catholic) President of the North American Coalition on Religion and Ecology, Washington, D.C. 3. The Rev. Dr. Margaret Mitchell, (Baptist) The Olivet Health Education Institute, Cleveland, OH. 4. The Rev. Paul C. Kucynda, Pastor of Holy Spirit Orthodox Church, Wayne, NJ. 5. The Rev. Samuel Kedala, Pastor of Holy Spirit Orthodox Church, Wantage, NJ. 6. The Rev. Dr. John Reigstad, pastor of the Evangelical American Lutheran Church (ELCA), Jesup, Iowa; Lecturer in Religion at Wartburg College, Waverly, Iowa. 7. The Rev. Dr. DeWitt Williams, director of the Health Ministries (North American division) of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Jewish 8. Rabbi Harold S. White, (Reform) Director of Jewish Chaplancy and Lecturer in Theology, Georgetown University, Washington, D.C. 9. Rabbi Alan Green, (Conservative) Beth Israel Synagogue, Winnipeg (a U.S. citizen). 10. Rabbi Jossi Serebryanski, (Orthodox) A kosher supervisor for O.K. Labs, Brooklyn, NY. Buddhist 11. Dr. Ron Epstein, Chancellor of the Americas Dharma Realm Buddhist University; Research Professor, Institute for World Religions, Berkeley, CA. Hindu 12. Gayatri Pariwar-Yugnirman, a Hindu religious organization in the Chicago metropolitan area with a membership of approximately 1,000. http://www.biointegrity.org/Lawsuit.html InTheShadows is a discussion list dedicated to keeping up-to-date with new technologies, advancements in medicine, environmental concerns, 'conspiracy theories', politics, and, of course, UFO stuff. Discussion is encouraged. Bashing and soapboxing will get you bounced off the list. To subscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Moderator: Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Earn 50 cents an hour viewing ads on your screen. Go to: https://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refrid=EPA-317 Earn cash viewing ads on your screen. Go to: http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911 View more ads and get paid. Go to: http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refld=161855 Earn money with a mini browser and still keep your current one. Go to: http://valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary Money for reading email: Go to: http://www.moneyformail.com/home.asp?ref=HilaryT More $ to read mail. Go to: http://www.totale-mail.com/referralentry.asp?Referrer=HilaryT Thanks! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. =
[CTRL] Declaration of Dr. Richard Lacey re: GM Foods
-Caveat Lector- From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Note: This document (in html format) is formatted to closely resemble the original, with the same wording. This is not a photocopy, which accounts for why there is no signature at the end, as there is in the original.] UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ALLIANCE FOR BIO-INTEGRITY, et al. Plaintiffs v. DONNA SHALALA, et al. Defendants. ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )Civil Action No. 98-1300 (CKK) P. DECLARATION OF Dr. Richard Lacey, M.D., Ph.D. I, Richard Lacey, state: 1. I reside at Carlton Manor near Yeadon, Leeds, 197BE, United Kingdom. 2. I earned both a B.A. in biochemistry and an M.D. from the University of Cambridge and a Ph.D. in genetics from the University of Bristol. Since 1971, I have been a member of the Royal College of Pathologists, and since 1983, I have been Professor of Medical Microbiology at the University of Leeds. (I have been on Emeritus status since 1995.) 3. I am an expert in food safety issues, and my background makes me especially qualified to assess the potential risks of genetically engineered food products. I served four years on a U.K. government advisory panel on food as it relates to human and animal health, and I have written five books on food safety, including one published by Cambridge University Press in 1994 containing a detailed discussion of genetically engineered food. (This book has been translated into Japanese and Polish.) In addition, I have written over 200 articles published in standard scientific journals and attended and spoken at numerous scientific conferences both in the U.K. and abroad. (A list of my publications and honors is attached.) 4. In 1989, I anticipated that there could be serious health risks to the British cattle and human populations from the practice of feeding cattle rendered meat from sheep and other animals. I published my warnings in Food Microbiology, 1990. In this article, I explained the nature of the malady that could result. This was the first prediction of what eventually became the "mad cow" epidemic in the United Kingdom. Unfortunately, the governmental authorities were slow to respond to my warning. Had they properly assessed and acted upon the information I presented, much hardship would have been avoided, and the citizens would not have been subjected to as high a degree of risk. (Because of the long latency period between exposure to the infectious agent and development of symptoms, there is a potential for widespread incidence of infection within the British public over the next forty years.) 5. It is my considered judgment that employing the process of recombinant DNA technology (genetic engineering) in producing new plant varieties entails a set of risks to the health of the consumer that are not ordinarily presented by traditional breeding techniques. It is also my considered judgment that food products derived from such genetically engineered organisms are not generally recognized as safe on the basis of scientific procedures within the community of experts qualified to assess their safety. Paragraphs 6 through 10 explain why these new foods entail higher risks, and paragraphs 12 through 15 explain why none of them is generally recognized as safe. 6. Recombinant DNA technology is an inherently risky method for producing new foods. Its risks are in large part due to the complexity and interdependency of the parts of a living system, including its DNA. Wedging foreign genetic material in an essentially random manner into an organism's genome necessarily causes some degree of disruption, and the disruption could be multi-faceted. Further, whether singular or multi-faceted, the disruptive influence could well result in the presence of unexpected toxins or allergens or in the degradation of nutritional value. Further, because of the complexity and interactivity of living systems -- and because of the extent to which our understanding of them is still quite deficient -- it is impossible to predict what specific problems could result in the case of any particular genetically engineered organism. Prediction is even more difficult because even when dealing with one variety of a food-producing organism and one particular set of foreign genetic material, each insertion event is unique and can yield deeply different results. 7. The mechanics and risks of recombinant DNA technology are substantially different from those of natural methods of breeding. The latter are typically based on sexual reproduction between organisms of the same or closely related species. Normally, entire sets of genes are paired in an orderly manner that maintains a fixed sequence of genetic information. Every gene remains under the control of the organism's intricately balanced regulatory system. The substances produced by the genes are those that have been within the species for a long stretch of biological time. (In cases whe
[CTRL] Declaration of Philip Regal, Ph.D. re: GM Foods
-Caveat Lector- From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] [[Note: This document (in html format) is formatted to closely resemble the original, with the same wording. This is not a photocopy, which accounts for why there is no signature at the end, as there is in the original.] UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ALLIANCE FOR BIO-INTEGRITY, et al. Plaintiffs v. DONNA SHALALA, et al. Defendants. ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )Civil Action No. 98-1300 (CKK) P. DECLARATION OF PHILIP J. REGAL, Ph.D. I, Philip J. Regal, state: l. I am a biologist in the College of Biological Sciences and am Professor of Ecology, Behavior and Evolution at the University of Minnesota (St. Paul), where I have been on the faculty since 1970. 2. I have made several important contributions to the study of plant biology, particularly in the area of how genetics relates to adaptability and organization of organisms. I have nine publications on this particular topic among my contributions to the peer reviewed scientific literature. (A list of my publications and key presentations is attached.) 3. Since 1983, I have closely studied various safety issues concerning the use of recombinant DNA technology (RDNA technology; genetic engineering) to develop new plant varieties. My involvement has been both intensive and extensive. I have attended and sometimes organized scientific biosafety workshops for government agencies and scientific societies, presented at conferences, and published articles on agricultural genetic engineering in the scientific literature. I have consulted for and worked closely with government regulatory agencies, Congressional staff, scientific organizations, private corporations, and public interest groups. 4. It is my professional opinion that utilizing RDNA technology in production of food-producing organisms can be very powerful biologically and very different biologically from conventional forms of breeding. It entails a set of risks to human health that are not ordinarily associated with the latter. Such use of RDNA technology has the well-recognized potential to interfere with the normal activities of the engineered organism, for example so as to generate unexpected and unknown toxins, carcinogens, allergens and other anti-nutritive substances. 5. My own analyses, as well as a substantial body of published research, clearly establish that these types of unintended side effects are risks that cannot be lightly discounted. Moreover, although I have kept abreast of developments in biotechnology and have regularly read the relevant scientific literature, I am not aware of any reliable study published in the peer-reviewed scientific literature which demonstrates that these risks are categorically either (1) negligible or (2) no greater than in the case of conventionally produced organisms. Nor am I aware of even one such peer-reviewed, professionally published study which has detailed scientific criteria for testing and evaluation and gone on to demonstrate that even one particular genetically engineered food is reasonably certain to produce no harm when eaten by a human being. 6. Rather, it is my considered judgment that the evidence to date, in its entirety, indicates there are scientifically justified concerns about the safety of genetically engineered foods and that some of them could be quite dangerous. Further, in the absence of reliable toxicological tests, it is not possible to determine which of these new foods are dangerous and which are not. 7. It is also my observation that there is not general recognition of the safety of genetically engineered foods among those members of the scientific community qualified to make such a judgment. In fact, it has been my personal experience over numerous years that many of those experts who publicly subscribe to the position that these foods are as safe as their natural counterparts privately admit they have serious doubts. For instance, when I attended a conference on biotechnology in Annapolis, Maryland in 1988, at which many officials from federal regulatory agencies (including the FDA) were present, I was shocked to learn the extent of uncertainty. In informal discussions at meals and on walks, government scientist after scientist acknowledged there was no way to assure the safety of genetically engineered foods. Several expressed the idea that, in order to take this important step of progress, society was going to have to bear an unavoidable measure of risk. 8. Consequently, I am deeply troubled by the FDA's decision to permit the widespread marketing of untested genetically food products based on a stated presumption they are, in the general case, equivalent to, and thus are as safe as, their natural counterparts. As I have pointed out, there is no sound scientific basis for such a presumption and the weight of the evidence is against it. It is my considered opinion that such a presumption can on
[CTRL] Presentation for FDA Public Meeting, 11-30-1999
-Caveat Lector- From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alliance for Bio-Integrity Home ALLIANCE FOR BI0-INTEGRITY Dedicated to Preserving the Safety of Our Food, the Health of Our Environment, and the Harmony of Our Relationship with Nature P.O. Box 110, Iowa City, Iowa 52244-0110 Voice: (515) 472-5554; Fax (515) 472-6431 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Web: www.biointegrity.org PRESENTATION FOR FDA PUBLIC MEETING, NOV. 30, 1999 WASHINGTON, D.C. Panel on Scientific, Safety, and Regulatory Issues Steven M. Druker, J.D. Executive Director A. Introduction I am very pleased to be here, and I commend you, Commissioner Henney, for holding these meetings. I am also somewhat surprised to be here, since I am one of the strongest critics of your agency's policy on bioengineered foods and have coordinated a major lawsuit against it--a suit which is pending in U.S. District Court. The fact you have invited me indicates not only that you are interested in hearing from all sides, but suggests that you are also open to making meaningful changes. B. FDA Policy is Scientifically Unsound This is encouraging, since current FDA policy is sorely in need of change. While it claims to be science-based, it is seriously out of line with the standards of science -- and with the requirements of federal law. 1. Eminent Scientists Fault the Policy for Ignoring Biological Reality Numerous experts both here and abroad have criticized FDA policy as scientifically flawed, and nine of these experts are so concerned about the extent to which they view it as unsound and irresponsible that they have taken the unprecedented step of becoming plaintiffs in the lawsuit my organization is leading to amend the policy and institute mandatory, rigorous safety testing of all genetically engineered foods. These scientist-plaintiffs are eminent, and their concerns deserve attention. They include a professor of molecular and cell biology at the University of California at Berkeley, a respected molecular biologist at the State University of New York, and the associate director of targeted mutagenics at Northwestern University Medical School. This latter scientist routinely employs bioengineering in the medical field, but is troubled it is being used in food production without adequate safeguards. Also included is Professor Philip Regal, an internationally renowned plant biologist at the University of Minnesota, who has stated in a sworn declaration to the court "... there are scientifically justified concerns about the safety of genetically engineered foods and some of them could be quite dangerous." Why are our nine plaintiffs and so many other scientists so concerned about FDA policy? They think the agency is disregarding the well-recognized potential for recombinant DNA techniques to produce unexpected toxins and carcinogens in a different manner and to a different degree than do conventional methods. For one thing, the foreign genetic material invariably disrupts the region of host DNA into which it wedges, and this can adversely alter cellular function. Another source of potential problems is the routine practice of fusing powerful promoters from viruses or pathogenic bacteria to the transferred genes. This is necessary because genes ordinarily do not express well when implanted within a foreign cellular environment. However, besides boosting the foreign genes, these promoters can cause overexpression (or even suppression) of surrounding native genes. Further, these foreign promoters cause the transgenes to act independently of the host organism's intricate control mechanisms and to express their products in an essentially unregulated manner. This unregulated flow of foreign substances can upset complex biochemical feedback loops. Moreover, these powerful agents can activate metabolic pathways that are ordinarily inactive. Each of the above types of disruption can induce unexpected toxins, carcinogens or allergens -- or degrade nutritional value in an unpredictable manner. Unfortunately, the FDA's official position ignores this heightened potential for unpredictable negative side effects. Rather, the agency focuses almost exclusively on the factors that are known: the transferred genetic material and the substances it is known to produce. In effect, it is evaluating each transgenic substance as if it were an ingredient mixed into a pre-existing food rather than as a factor that can cause unpredictable deleterious changes in the developmental process of a food organism. As one of our plaintiffs, the respected molecular biologist Dr. Liebe Cavalieri has stated, such an approach is "simplistic if not simple minded." 2. Numerous FDA Scientists Have Warned About the Risks of Bioengineered Food What is especially troubling is that the risks the FDA is systematically ignoring are not only recognized by eminent experts outside the agency but by numerous scientists on its own staff. This came to lig
[CTRL] Really Weird. Insights Would Be Appreciated
-Caveat Lector- Hi All, Something really weird just started. Somehow private mail being sent to Capitol Hill Blue is ending up in my mail box. When I write back to the person or to Capitol Hill Blue it is sent to someone else. So, I don't even know if my message is getting through to Capitol Hill Blue. Help! Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What Happens When Robots Smarter than Humans are Roaming the Net?
-Caveat Lector- From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Matrix" was also the term coined by the CIA-sponsored Remote Viewing program for the place from which information is derived. It was defined then as "something from within which something else takes form, or develops." Dan S I found that a fascinating piece of information when I first heard it. Years ago, some friends and I would practice calling in The Matrix. We were friends and we also did a lot of projects together. Whenever there was a "personality-conflict" and a stalemate on how to proceed with some aspect of the project we would get into comfortable positions (usually lying down) and call in the Matrix. I could actually sense or feel it lowering. When it did lower we would individually communicate with it (I know this sounds wacky - But very true). At the end of the session, there would be consensus on how to proceed with the project - no more disputes about that issue. The funky part is that we would all get the same answer from the Matrix on how to proceed. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] An interesting way to choose a canidate...
-Caveat Lector- http://www.selectsmart.com/PRESIDENT/ interesting way to choose a canidate... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Pakistan not Y2K ready
-Caveat Lector- India must be dancing a jig over this one. Hilary -- From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] From Nando Media, http://www.nando.net/noframes/story/0,2107,500062879-500103959-500457354-0,0 0.html - Y2K trouble predicted for Pakistan's vital services Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press By KATHY GANNON DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2 Date: Friday, November 26, 1999 1:55 PM -Caveat Lector- Perhaps we reincarnate into reverse time, and our future lives are actually in the present-time past. Thus science-fiction writers are the only ones who actually remember the past, which at the moment is still in the future. Yep. Would that be the time line when JR wasn't shot and the shower scene really was dream? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico
-Caveat Lector- I can't open these files. Can you send the text not as an attachment, but within an email? Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Despite international protests, Ukraine restarts Chernobyl
-Caveat Lector- Despite international protests, Ukraine restarts Chernobyl Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press http://www.nandotimes.com/healthscience/story/0,1080,500061725-500102010-50 0437107-0,00.html By MARINA SYSOYEVA KIEV, Ukraine (November 26, 1999 7:19 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - The Ukrainian authorities Friday restarted the last working nuclear reactor at the Chernobyl power plant, ignoring strong international pressure to shut it down. Reactor No. 3 was restarted at 5:30 a.m. Friday after almost five months of repairs. It was initially running at about 5 percent of capacity and was gradually increasing its output, said a spokeswoman for the plant who declined to give her name. She would not say when the reactor was expected to reach full power. Officials at Chernobyl insist that reactor No. 3 is safe and is free of any potential Y2K bugs - the glitches where a computer might misread the last two digits of a date and mistake the year 2000 for 1900. Western governments and environmental groups have long urged Ukraine to close the plant, and a 1995 agreement between Ukraine and the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations said the plant should be closed by the year 2000. "We're completely opposed to restarting Chernobyl," Ben Pearson, an anti-nuclear campaigner in the Amsterdam office of the environmental group Greenpeace, said earlier this week. "Chernobyl is probably the most dangerous reactor in the world." The Ukrainian government says it is planning to shut down Chernobyl sometime next year. But the government says it needs $1.2 billion from the West to finish construction of two new reactors to replace the output that will be lost by closing Chernobyl. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, which has played a leading role in the discussions on financing, was supposed to make a loan decision in September. But it has taken no action, and other potential lenders are expected to wait for the EBRD before they commit any money. The Chernobyl plant originally had four working nuclear reactors. However, reactor No. 4 exploded in April 1986, spewing radiation over much of Europe. Ukrainian authorities have blamed 8,000 deaths on the world's worst-ever nuclear accident. That reactor has been encased in a steel-and-concrete sarcophagus, and the two others have been permanently shut down. One was destroyed in the 1986 accident. Meanwhile, workers have begun repairs on the sarcophagus, which was hastily constructed after the accident to prevent additional radiation leaks. The workers will strengthen the sarcophagus' concrete beams, working through December from both inside and outside the huge structure. Ukraine continues to operate 14 reactors at five power plants, which supply about 40 percent of the country's energy. While some Ukrainians want to see Chernobyl and other Soviet-designed nuclear plants shut, Ukrainian authorities face much greater pressure from governments and environmental groups in the West. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton's appeasement of N. Korea
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's this imminent threat that is either totally unrecognized by the Clinton administration or, for reasons unknown, is being ignored. You don't have far to look Bill. China likes N. Korea...ring any bells? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S., U.N. Posts Watch For Bin Laden Attacks
-Caveat Lector- U.S., U.N. Posts Watch For Bin Laden Attacks By Colum Lynch http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-11/24/070l-112499-idx.html Special to The Washington Post Wednesday, November 24, 1999; Page A20 UNITED NATIONS, Nov. 23The State Department and the United Nations are tightening security at their outposts in Pakistan and throughout Central Asia after receiving warnings that Islamic militants with links to Osama bin Laden may be planning attacks in the region, U.S. and U.N. officials said today. An internal memo circulated by the office of the U.N.'s security coordinator, Benon Sevan of Cyprus, cited "reliable reports" that supporters of the Saudi militant might attack U.S. or U.N. targets in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan or Turkmenistan in retaliation for trade sanctions imposed by the U.N. against Afghanistan. "We have good information that U.S. and U.N. interests could be attacked by supporters of bin Laden," a U.N. staff member told senior officials at a security briefing Monday, according to a participant in the closed-door meeting. Bin Laden, who is living in Afghanistan under the protection of its ruling Taliban militia, has been indicted by a New York grand jury on charges of conspiracy and murder in the August 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, which killed more than 220 people. The United States has offered a $5 million reward for information leading to his arrest. Trade sanctions went into effect last week after the Taliban refused to expel bin Laden. The sanctions, which call on U.N. members to freeze the Taliban's foreign assets and bar all flights by the Taliban's airline, were approved by a unanimous vote of the U.N. Security Council's 15 member nations, including China and Russia. While the memo and the briefing provided no details on the source of the warnings, officials said Sevan's office was taking them seriously enough to place U.N. relief workers in the region on alert and to hold down their numbers. There are now about 40 U.N. relief workers in Afghanistan. On Nov. 12, the State Department also reminded U.S. embassies around the world that sanctions against the Taliban were going into effect and urged all posts to "review their security situation and take additional measures if necessary," according to a State Department spokesman. That day, militants fired rocket-propelled grenades at the U.S. Embassy and the U.N.'s local headquarters in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital. Protesters subsequently attacked several U.N. facilities in Afghanistan, including an office in the town of Farah that was burned to the ground. Last week, however, the Taliban's leader, Mohammad Omar, appealed to the Afghan public to halt the demonstrations against the United Nations. The U.N., in turn, began to consider increasing its relief work. "What we might need to do is freeze that," a U.N. official said today. "The U.N. staff members in Afghanistan were resuming normal duty. Then we get this memo." © Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: Answers to 6th grade history test: (These are GREAT!)
-Caveat Lector- Answers to 6th grade history test: 1. Ancient Egypt was inhabited by mummies and they all wrote in hydraulics. They lived in the Sarah Dessert. The climate of the Sarah is such that the inhabitants have to live elsewhere. 2. The Bible is full of interesting caricatures. In the first book of the Bible, Guinessis, Adam and Eve were created from an apple tree. One of their children, Cain, asked, "Am I my brother's son?" 3. Moses led the Hebrew slaves to the Red Sea, where they made leavened bread, which is bread made without any ingredients. Moses went up on Mount Cyanide to get the ten commandments. He died before he ever reached Canada. 4. Solomom had three hundred wives and seven hundred porcupines. 5. The Greeks were a highly sculptured people, and without them we wouldn't have history. The Greeks also had myths. A myth is a female moth. 6. Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of that name. 7. Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people advice. They killed him. Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock. After his death, his career suffered a dramatic decline. 8. In the Olympic games, Greeks ran races, jumped, hurled biscuits, and threw the java. 9. Eventually, the Romans conquered the Greeks. History calls people Romans, because they never stayed in one place for very long. 10. Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king. Dying, he gasped out: "Tee hee, Brutus" 11. Nero was a cruel tyranny who would torture his subjects by playing the fiddle to them. 12. Joan of Arc was burnt to a steak and was cannonized by Bernard Shaw. 13. Finally Magna Carta provided that no man should be hanged twice for the same offense. 14. In midevil times most people were alliterate. The greatest writer of the futile ages was Chaucer, who wrote many poems and verses and also wrote literature. 15. Another story was William Tell, who shot an arrow through an apple while standing on his son's head. 16. Queen Elizabeth was the "Virgin Queen." As a queen she was a success. When she exposed herself before her troops they all shouted "hurrah" 17. It was an age of great inventions and discoveries. Gutenberg invented removable type and the Bible. Another important invention was the circulation of blood. Sir Walter Raleigh is a historical figure because he invented cigarettes and started smoking. And Sir Francis Drake circumcised the world with a 100-foot clipper. 18. The greatest writer of the Renaissance was William Shakespeare. He was born in the year 1564, supposedly on his birthday. He never made much money and is famous only because of his plays. He wrote tagedies, comedies, and hysterectomies, all in Islamic pentameter. Romeo and Juliet are an example of a heroicouplet. Romeo's last wish was to be laid by Juliet. 19. Writing at the same time as Shakespeare was Miguel Cervantes. He wrote Donkey Hote. The next great author was John Milton. Milton wrote Paradise Lost. Then his wife died and he wrote Paradise Regained. 20. During the Renaissance, America began. Christopher Columbus was a great navigator who discovered America while cursing about the Atlantic. His ships were called the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Fe. 21. Later, the Pilgrims crossed the ocean, and this was called Pilgrim's Progress. The winter of 1620 was a hard one for the settlers. Many died and many babies were born. Captain John Smith was responsible for all this. 22. One of the causes of the Revolutionary War was the English put tacks in their tea. Also, the colonists would send their parcels through the post without stamps. Finally the colonists won the War and no longer had to pay for taxis. 23. Delegates from the original 13 states formed the Contented Congress. Thomas Jefferson, a Virgin, and Benjamin Franklin were two singers of the Declaration of Independence. Franklin discovered electricity by rubbing two cats backwards and declared, "A horse divided against itself cannot stand." Franklin died in 1790 and is still dead. 24. Soon the Constitution of the United States was adopted to secure domestic hostility. Under the constitution the people enjoyed the right to keep bare arms. 25. Abraham Lincoln became America's greatest Precedent. Lincoln's mother died in infancy, and he was born in a log cabin which he built with his own hands. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves by signing the Emasculation Proclamation. On the night of April 14, 1865, Lincoln went to the theater and got shot in his seat by one of the actors in a moving picture show. The believed assinator was John Wilkes Booth, a supposingly insane actor. This ruined Booth's career. 26. Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time. Voltaire invented electricity and also wrote a book called Candy. Gravity was invented by Issac Walton. It is chiefly noticeable in the autumn when the apples are
[CTRL] Humor: The Ten Commandments of Government
-Caveat Lector- From: "J.J. Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Ten Commandments of Government (..if only they had their way) Written By J.J. Johnson - 11/21/99 .. And lo, he walketh up to Capitol Hill, and the Government spake all these words, saying: 1 We are your Government, which have brought thee into the economic house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Especially in schools, and non-501(c3) churches. 2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image of Government, or any likeness of any thing that is graven about government, no matter how graven it really is. Thou shalt bow down thyself to us, and serve us. For we are the Government, and we're here to help thee. 3. Thou shalt not take the name of the thy Government in vain: for the Courts will not hold him guiltless that taketh this name in vain. Ye shalt be eternally labeled as anti-government. 4. Remember the sabbath day, and keepeth the receipts. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work, but the seventh day is thy day to nurse thy hangover, hide part of thy taxes in a church plate (we'll find it anyway), and watch us parade a bunch of liars on the morning talking-head shows. We are the Government. Everything is under control. 5. Honor thy President, his wife, and his mistress(es); that thy days may be long upon the earth, and not found dead in Arkansas. 6. Thou shalt not kill, unless approved by thy Government, and with thy Government's blessings. 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery, unless it's done in private among consenting adults, on public time and money; and opinion polls show the public doesn't really care. 8. Thou shall not steal. That's our department. We hateth the competition. 9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, unless he is a conservative, gun owner, smoker, SUV owner, or believes in the Constitution. If so, for Government's sake, bear all the false witness thy can! 10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's tax break, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's privilege of being a Government employee, nor their agents, nor their lawyers, nor their weapons, nor their arrogance, nor any thing that is thy Government's. J.J. Johnson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coming weekend: "Letters From a Broken Heart" on www.jj-johnson.com Site updated often. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Funny
-Caveat Lector- A man was getting a haircut prior to a trip to Rome. He mentioned the trip to the barber who responded, "Rome? Why would anyone want to go there? It's crowded and dirty and full of Italians. You're crazy to go to Rome. So, how are you getting there?" "We're taking TWA," was the reply. "We got a great rate!" "TWA?" exclaimed the barber. "That's a terrible airline. Their planes are old, their flight attendants are ugly, and they're always late. So, where are you staying in Rome?" "We'll be at the downtown International Marriott." "That dump! That's the worst hotel in the city. The rooms are small, the service is surly and they're overpriced. So, whatcha doing when you get there?" "We're going to go to see the Vatican and we hope to see the Pope." "That's rich," laughed the barber. "You and a million other people trying to see him. He'll look the size of an ant. Boy, good luck on this lousy trip of yours. You're going to need it." A month later, the man again came in for his regular haircut. The barber asked him about his trip to Rome. "It was wonderful," explained the man. "Not only were we on time in one of TWA's brand new planes, but it was overbooked and they bumped us up to first class. The food and wine were wonderful, and I had a beautiful 28 year old stewardess who waited on me hand and foot. And the hotel-it was great! They'd just finished a $25 million remodeling job and now it's the finest hotel in the city. They, too, were overbooked, so they apologized and gave us the presidential suite at no extra charge. "You didn't see the pope, of course." "Actually, we were quite lucky, for as we toured the Vatican, a Swiss Army Guard tapped me on the shoulder and explained that the pope likes to personally meet some of the visitors, and if I'd be so kind as to step into his private room and wait, the pope would personally greet me. Sure enough, five minutes later the pope walked through the door and shook my hand! I knelt down as he spoke a few words to me." "Really?" asked the Barber. "What'd he say?" He said, "Where'd you get the shitty haircut? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] SkeptiNews 991123a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question # TIMELESS. Surely nothing is possible without time? But a physicist sez it doesn't even exist. (NewSci) TIME SEEMS TO BE the most powerful force, an irresistible river carrying us from birth to death. To most people it's an inescapable part of life, a fundamental element of the Universe. But time may be an illusion. Physicists struggling to unify quantum mechanics and Einstein's general theory of relativity have found hints that the Universe is timeless. http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19991016/timeless.html Humanity does tend to equate time with degeneration which, in fact, are two separate issues. Got about halfway through the article and lost my time-space coordinates... Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Nothing was done to produce this bulletin. It spontaneously coalesced... Another blackout? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Out of the phlogiston, like maggots appearing spontaneously on rotten meat in a vacuum jar? Robert, sometimes your mind seems a very scary place to be...:-) Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] # 'Y2K: THE MOVIE' - NEW YEAR MEETS MURPHY'S LAW. The premise behind NBC's Sunday-night special, "Y2K: The Movie," is simple: If everything can go wrong, it will. Murphy's Law is the star of this show, a fictional account of coming Y2K havoc that includes food and cash shortages, power outages, a plane falling out of the sky, even a prison riot. Never mind all those pronouncements from govt and the private sector that widespread mishaps are unlikely. The movie devises as many as it can. "Paranoia is our most important product" - see http://cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9911/18/nbc.y2k.ap/ Having watched this movie last night I don't see what all the uproar was about. This flick was too boring for words and in MHO had a zero fear-factor. Ken Orlin as the mighty hero limped and whined his way through a tedious and predicable plot. The only thing believable about this movie was the be-glittered teenage daughter who had a penchant for sneaking out at night, playing one parent against the other, and basically doing a GREAT job of expressing adolescence in that annoying way that teens are apt to do. My overall rating for this movie: One Big Yawn. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #4
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] # Tape: Call on JFK wasn't Oswald. WASHINGTON (AP) Hours after Pres. Kennedy was assassinated, FBI agents reportedly listened to a tape of a phone call that a man identifying himself as "Lee Oswald" had placed to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City. They made a startling discovery: The voice on the tape was not Oswald's, govt records say. This controversial tape has been a question mark in the assassination investigation since JFK was killed. The assassination occurred 36 years ago Monday only now have new details about the tape come to light. CIA said years ago that the tapes on which it recorded the call were erased. Documents released in recent years said otherwise. And bets on the date the press release will come out stating that the above information is incorrect? # Phone-sex operator wins masturbation injury claim. The woman, 40, said she developed carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands from masturbating as often as 7 times daily doing hot-chat with callers. She'll get benefits for the injuries. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991119/13/fl-life-phonesex I'm speechless... Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y2K Movie Tonight
-Caveat Lector- Check your local listing for the much anticipated Y2K movie which airs tonight. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] test
-Caveat Lector- test DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: WHAT IF GOD HAD VOICE MAIL?
-Caveat Lector- WHAT IF GOD HAD VOICE MAIL? We have all learned to live with voice mail as a necessary part of modern life. But you may have wondered What if God decided to install voicemail? Imagine praying and hearing this: Thank you for calling My Father's House. Please select one of the following options: Press 1 for GENERAL REQUESTS Press 2 for THANKSGIVING Press 3 for COMPLAINTS Press 4 for HEALING Press 5 for HELP WITH THE IRS Press 6 for RAIN Press 7 for "JUST SAYING HI!" Press 8 for LOTTERY WINNING NUMBERS (good luck, we just guess too) Press 9 for ALL OTHER INQUIRIES Press 0 for this to all begin again What if God used the familiar excuse..."I'm sorry, all the angels are helping other customers right now. Please stay on the line. Your call is important to us and will be answered in the order it was received." Can you imagine getting these kinds of responses as you call God in prayer: "If you would like to speak to: Gabriel, Press 11. For Michael, Press 22. For a directory of other Archangels, Press 33." For a directory of Seraphim and Cherubim, Press 44 If you'd like to hear King David sing a Psalm while you are holding, please press 55, And then wait for the beep and then enter the Number of the Psalm. To find out if a loved one has been assigned to Heaven, Press 66, enter His/her social security number, then press the pound (#) key, then date of Birth, then press the pound (#) key twice. For reservations in one of the Many Mansions, press the letters J-O-H-N, then 3-1-6. For answers to nagging questions about dinosaurs, the age of the earth, where Noah's Ark is, Darwin, Hitler, the Pope, abortion, and UFO's please wait until you arrive here, they can only be understood from a "heavenly perspective". Lucifer, Press 666, and your call will be automatically transferred. Our computers show that you have already called once today. Please hang up and try again tomorrow. This office is closed for the weekend. Please call again on Monday after 9:30am. But before 4:30 ACST (Absolute Celestial Standard Time) Please call again soon, but never on Sunday, That is OUR day of rest. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: Bill Clinton and How He Got That Way
-Caveat Lector- http://216.46.238.34/commentmax/articles/Norman_Liebmann.shtml CommentMax Bill Clinton and How He Got That Way All Rights Reserved © NewsMax.com Norman Liebmann November 11, 1999 In order to understand more poignantly Bill Clinton's character, it is useful to recall the ancestors whose blood flows in his veins. Here is a list of some of Bill Clinton's antecedents, and the quotations by which they are best remembered and defined. Conclusions are irresistible: NATHAN HALE CLINTON: "My only regret is that I have but one pair of pants to drop for my country." JOHN PAUL JONES CLINTON: "I have not yet begun to fight and I plan to keep it that way." SAM HOUSTON CLINTON: "It may be the Alamo to you, but it looks like just another Taco Bell to me." PAUL REVERE CLINTON:"I hear the British are coming. Are my lips on straight?" GENERAL WILLIAM TECUMSEH SHERMAN CLINTON: "War is hell, but let's face it, nobody gives a shit about the Serbians." JACK FROST CLINTON: "Excuse me, Miss, I thought that was your nose I was nipping at." PATRICK HENRY CLINTON: "Give me liberty, or give me penicillin." GENERAL JOHN J. PERSHING CLINTON: "Tell Lafayette if I'm not there, go ahead without me." ABRAHAM LINCOLN CLINTON: "The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but you can bet some broad will tell a friend and next thing you know, it will be all over Gettysburg." CAPTAIN EDWARD SMITH CLINTON: (as his ship, the Titanic, went down) "Bimbos and lobbyists first!" PINOCCHIO CLINTON: "I'm going to say this one more time. I did not have sex with that woman, Mrs. Gepetto." SHERIFF OF NOTTINGHAM CLINTON: "The only things that are sure are death and taxes, but if I get my way about only one, you can bet it will be taxes. EDUCATOR JOHN HARVARD CLINTON: "How should I know? Go look it up." GENERAL DWIGHT DAVID EISENHOWER CLINTON: (to his troops before the invasion of Normandy): "I had hoped to go with you." ADMIRAL CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS CLINTON: Swim over to the Pinta and find out if anyone aboard has a Dramamine." SIR FRANCIS DRAKE CLINTON: "When the Spanish Armada arrives, sneak the crew over the border and register them as Democrats." O.J. CLINTON: "I never saw such a fuss over a sore throat." FREDERICK DOUGLASS CLINTON: "Will somebody please tell me what the "n" word that people keep referring to is." NEIL ARMSTRONG CLINTON: "One small step for man, one giant rip-off for the Clinton/Gore Campaign." ADOLPH HITLER CLINTON: "The fact that nobody in Arkansas wears shoes does not necessarily mean they're not Aryans." SIR EDMUND HILLARY CLINTON: "Whose idea was this? I'm freezing my ass off!" ADMIRAL DAVID FARRAGUT CLINTON: "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead! Let me know how it works out. I'll be in the Officers Club." "GAY" ADMIRAL PERRY CLINTON: "We have met the enemy and they are fun." F. LEE CLINTON: "Don't ask. Don't tell. Don't testify." GEORGIE WASHINGTON CLINTON: (At age nine) "I cannot tell a lie. I did not have sex with that cherry tree." FLETCHER CHRISTIAN CLINTON: "Who's for shuffleboard?" WILLIAM PRESCOTT CLINTON: (to the White House Press Corps) "Don't quote until you see the whites of my lies." ADMIRAL RICHARD BYRD CLINTON: "Anybody here know how to get it on with a penguin?" FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT CLINTON: "We have nothing to ooze but ooze itself." ST. PAUL CLINTON: "The wages of sin is herpes." CARRY NATION CLINTON: "I drank booze once, but I didn't swallow." ELI WHITNEY CLINTON: Why didn't someone tell me that white stuff is cotton. I've been trying to shove it up my nose." VIRGIN MARY CLINTON: I'm thinking of putting him up for adoption." WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON: "The coward dies a million deaths ... unless he gets an educational deferment." Norman Liebmann is a former Television writer (Johnny Carson, Dean Martin; wrote and produced Chico and the Man, and created the characters for The Munsters (who are all named after his relatives) and a brilliant and insightful columnist/humorist. Please visit his website Firehat, a treasure trove of Clinton and Media bashing. Reprint Information DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] SANTA AND THE SOLDIER - Peom
-Caveat Lector- Subject: Fwd: SANTA AND THE SOLDIER WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, HE LIVED ALL ALONE, IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE. I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE, AND TO SEE JUST WHO IN THIS HOME DID LIVE. I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE, NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, NOT EVEN A TREE. NO STOCKING BY MANTLE, JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND, ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES OF FAR DISTANT LANDS. WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, AWARDS OF ALL KINDS, A SOBER THOUGHT CAME THROUGH MY MIND. FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, IT WAS DARK AND DREARY, I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY. THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, SILENT, ALONE, CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME. THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, NOT HOW I PICTURED A UNITED STATES SOLDIER. WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I'D JUST READ? CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED? I REALIZED THE FAMILIES THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT, OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT. SOON ROUND THE WORLD, THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY, AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY. THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE. I COULDN'T HELP WONDER HOW MANY LAY ALONE, ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME. THE VERY THOUGHT BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE, I DROPPED TO MY KNEES AND STARTED TO CRY. THE SOLDIER AWAKENED AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE, "SANTA DON'T CRY, THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE; I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM, I DON'T ASK FOR MORE, MY LIFE IS MY GOD, MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS." THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP, I COULDN'T CONTROL IT, I CONTINUED TO WEEP. I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS, SO SILENT AND STILL AND WE BOTH SHIVERED FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL. I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT, THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR SO WILLING TO FIGHT. THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER, WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE, WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA, IT'S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE." ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH, AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT. "MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT." This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request. I think it is reasonable. PLEASE. Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can? Christmas will be coming soon and some credit is due to our U.S. service men and women for our being able to celebrate these festivities. Let's try in this small way to pay a tiny bit of what we owe. Make people stop and think of our heroes, living and dead, who sacrificed themselves for us. Please, do your small part to plant this small seed DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] HOW MUCH DOES PRAYER WEIGH??
-Caveat Lector- HOW MUCH DOES PRAYER WEIGH?? Louise Redden, a poorly dressed lady with a look of defeat on her face, walked into a grocery store. She approached the owner of the store in a most humble manner and asked if he would let her charge a few groceries. She softly explained that her husband was very ill and unable to work, they had seven children and they needed food. John Longhouse, the grocer, scoffed at her and requested that she leave his store. Visualizing the family needs, she said: "Please, sir! I will bring you the money just as soon as I can." John told her he could not give her credit, because she did not have a charge account at his store. Standing beside the counter was a customer who overheard the conversation between the two. The customer walked forward and told the grocerman that he would stand good for whatever she needed for her family. The grocerman said in a very reluctant voice, "Do you have a grocery list?" Louise replied, "Yes sir." "O.K., " he said, "...put your grocery list on the scales and whatever your grocery list weighs, I will give you that amount in groceries." Louise hesitated a moment with a bowed head, then she reached into her purse and took out a piece of paper and scribbled something on it. She then laid the piece of paper on the scale carefully with her head still bowed. The eyes of the grocerman and the customer showed amazement when the scales went down and stayed down. The grocerman staring at the scales, turned slowly to the customer and said begrudgingly, "I can't believe it." The customer smiled and the grocerman started putting the groceries on the other side of the scales. The scale did not balance so he continued to put more and more groceries on them until the scales would hold no more. The grocerman stood there in utter disgust. Finally, he grabbed the piece of paper from the scales and looked at it with greater azement. It was not a grocery list, it was a prayer which said: "Dear Lord, you know my needs and I am leaving this in your hands." The grocerman gave her the groceries that he had gathered and placed on the scales and stood in stunned silence. Louise thanked him and left the store. The customer handed a fifty-dollar bill to John as he said, "It was worth every penny of it." It was sometime later that John Longhouse discovered the scales were broken; therefore, only God knows how much a prayer weighs. POWER OF PRAYER When you receive this, say a prayer. That's all you're asked to do. There is nothing attached. This is powerful. Then send this on. Prayer is one of the best free gifts we receive. There is no cost but a lot of rewards. Let's continue praying for one another. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russia May Fly Nuclear Bombers to Cuba
-Caveat Lector- Well, this sounds familiar - deja vu time, I suppose! Does anyone remember building bomb shelters during the Cuban missile crisis? Hilary Source: Yahoo News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ Friday November 12 9:05 AM ET Russia May Fly Nuclear Bombers to Cuba http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19991112/ts/russia_cuba_1.html By Robert Eksuzyan MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia may fly nuclear-capable strategic bombers to Cuba and Vietnam next year, a Russian air force spokesman said Friday. The latest edition of the weekly military newspaper Nezavisimoye Voyennoye Obozreniye quoted the head of long-range aviation forces, Mikhail Oparin, as saying such missions were planned and would greatly surprise NATO. Asked to comment, air force spokesman Colonel Nikolai Baranov told Reuters: ``If the government considers it essential to do this, the military will do it.'' ``If they give us the money we will fly, if not we won't fly,'' he said. ``Such a possibility does not exist yet because the money is not there.'' Prime Minister Vladimir Putin vowed Friday to boost funding for Russia's armed forces despite an economic crisis that, for example, has kept flying hours to a bare minimum. Putin spoke after Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev told military commanders the United States was bent on weakening Russia. Earlier this year Russia sent strategic bombers on long-range exercises right up to Alaska and Norway for the first time since the Cold War ended. The defense weekly said those flights had made a big impression on NATO. ``It looks like the 37th air division will surprise the alliance's strategists even more next year,'' the newspaper said, referring to the unit which operates Tupolev-160 swing-wing supersonic bombers that can carry nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. ``According to the chief of long-range aviation, in 2000 it is planned to carry out a flight to the air base at Cam Ranh in Vietnam and also to fly to Cuba,'' it said. There was no suggestion that the planes would be based in Cuba or Vietnam, two Communist countries where Russia still has signals intelligence bases and military personnel. Flights Could Evoke Cuban Crisis Memories But even bomber flights to and from those countries could evoke memories of the Cuban missile crisis which ended in October 1962 when Moscow recalled Soviet missiles from the Caribbean island after a tense stand-off with the United States. The article in the military newspaper was about Russia's deal with Ukraine to swap Ukrainian gas debt for strategic bombers. Russia took delivery of the first three of 11 bombers from Ukraine last week. As well as the eight Tu-160s and three Tu-95MS turbo-prop bombers, it said the deal also included 575 cruise missiles. ``Now it is necessary to look at these aircraft and assess what condition they are in,'' said Baranov, referring to the first three flown to Russia this month. Ukraine handed Russia nuclear weapons after the Soviet Union collapsed but kept the aircraft. The newspaper said Russia aimed to establish a fully fledged unit equipped with 14 Tu-160 planes, which air force staff refer to as the ``nation's weapon.'' ``With one flight they can take off with 168 long-range cruise missiles and take them to the limit from which they can be fired at any state in the world,'' the weekly said. The newspaper said Russia was planning to test a new adapted non-nuclear cruise missile by the end of this month. A Tu-160 would be able to carry 12 of these missiles, it said, noting Russia had learned from NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia. ``The B-2A (U.S. bomber) carried out one percent of the combat missions and unleashed 11 percent of all the bombs and rockets used by NATO,'' it said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- # New, Deadly 'AIDS' Tree Virus Threatens Pennsylvania Crops: http://foxnews.com/scitech/111099/fruit.sml This gives new meaning the phrase, 'Hug a tree.' A side note: I just had a 'conspiracy-though.' If there were enough damage to crops in the US and Europe would GM food lines be more acceptable? I read recently that GM trees are being tested (grown) so, this venture is definitely going beyond your basic soybean and grain cropJust a thought Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- # 'AIR CULT' PAIR ON TRIAL OVER DEATH AGONY. An elderly couple are tried for manslaughter after the agonising death of a woman who believed she could live on air alone. Jim Eugenia Pesnak initiated Lani Morris into their cult, "breatharianism." When Lani went comatose after a week without food or water, Pesnak stuck a tube down her throat. He told cops he believed Ms Morris was suffering a "spiritual blockage." She died on a hospital life- support machine. http://www.ic24.net:80/mgn/THE_MIRROR/NEWS/P16S2.html : Does your belief system eschew nourishment? Will/should you die pure? Do you help others reach your state of grace? Do voices in your head help you? There are a few Breatharians in this area. They have all lost a tremendous amount of weight and look very sickly. There is a belief that Prana (an airborne substance or life force) can sustain the physical body. I have great faith in the potential of humanity so, this may in fact be true - I like to stay open minded about such things. There have been too many extraordinary feats performed by individuals and groups to summarily dismiss this concept of Prana or other belief systems - MHO. I do also believe that the individual must be truly prepared for any type of discipline and that by prematurely exercising a discipline it will be destructive rather than productive - again, MHO. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: Death by VIAGRA
To: Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: Death by VIAGRA Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:30 PM Thought you'd get a kick out of this! Deathb~1 (JPEG Image)
Re: [CTRL] Men Humor:
-Caveat Lector- From: Michael S. Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Men Humor: Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 3:41 PM Thanks, Hilary! Quite hilarious! (Of course, women can't write their names in the snow when they take a leak !) Take care!, Mike G. Hi Mike, This is, of course, one major drawback to the female anatomy. However, there are few woman who find fascination in such endeavors as evidenced by the lack of females igniting their butts during high periods of flatulence. :-) Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Men Humor:
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Michael S. Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Men Humor: Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 12:01 PM -Caveat Lector- Please re-post for me a copy of this message. It must have appeared just prior to my joining CTRL. Thanks!, Michael S Goodmann Here you go Michael From: "Hilary A. Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] OWCH!!! Do I feel sorry for them? Naa! What do you call a handcuffed man? Trustworthy. Why do only 10% of men make it to heaven? Because if they all went, it would be Hell. How are husbands like lawn mowers? They're hard to get started, they emit oxious odors, and half the time they don't work. How do men define a "50/50" relationship? We cook-they eat; we clean-they dirty; we iron-they wrinkle. How do men exercise on the beach? By sucking in their stomachs every time they see a bikini. How does a man show he's planning for the future? He buys two cases of beer instead of one. How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb? ONE..He just holds it up there and waits for the world to revolve around him. (OUCH) What did God say after creating man? I can do so much better. What do you call a man with half a brain? Gifted. What should you give a man who has everything? A woman to show him how to work it. What's a mans' idea of honesty in a relationship? Telling you his real name. What's the smartest thing a man can say? "My wife says..." Why do men become smarter during sex? Because they are plugged into a genius. Why don't women blink during foreplay? They don't have time. Why does it take 1 million sperm to fertilize 1 egg? They won't stop for directions. Why did God put man on earth? Because a vibrator can't mow the lawn. Why don't woman have men's brains? Because they don't have penises to put them in. What do electric trains and breasts have in common? They're intended for children, but It's the men who usually end playing with them. Why do men snore when they lay on their back? Because their balls fall over their assholes and they vapor lock. Why do men masturbate? It's sex with someone they love. Why were men given larger brains then dogs? So they won't hump women's legs at cocktail parties. Why did God make men before women? You need a rough draft before you have a final copy. Why is a man's pee yellow and his sperm white? So he can tell if he is coming or going. How many men does it take to put the toilet seat down? Nobody knows, it hasn't happened yet. Why do women rub their eyes in the morning upon waking up? Because they don't have any balls to scratch. --- ONElist Sponsor GRAB THE GATOR! FREE SOFTWARE DOES ALL THE TYPING FOR YOU! Tired of filling out forms and remembering passwords? Gator fills in forms and passwords with just one click! Comes with $50 in free coupons! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/gator4 "Click Here/a InTheShadows is a discussion list dedicated to keeping up-to-date with new technologies, advancements in medicine, environmental concerns, 'conspiracy theories', politics, and, of course, UFO stuff. Discussion is encouraged. Bashing and soapboxing will get you bounced off the list. To subscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Moderator: Hilary Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Earn 50 cents an hour viewing ads on your screen. Go to: https://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refrid=EPA-317 Earn cash viewing ads on your screen. Go to: http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911 View more ads and get paid. Go to: http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refld=161855 Earn money with a mini browser and still keep your current one. Go to: http://valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary Money for reading email: Go to: http://www.moneyformail.com/home.asp?ref=HilaryT More $ to read mail. Go to: http://www.totale-mail.com/referralentry.asp?Referrer=HilaryT Thanks! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/a
Re: [CTRL] Men Humor:
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Men Humor: Date: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:32 AM -Caveat Lector- Just in time for Husband Appreciation Week. I try to be timely. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it?
-Caveat Lector- You are welcome Terry. Glad you figured it out. Hilary -- From: Terry Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:22 PM :() Hilary!! I discovered the problem. Even though View/Address Bar was clicked, it didn't show. I clicked the border where it would be and moved/enlarged it. And LO. There the baby was. Thank you so much for the encouragement. Now I have use of the net again. THANK YOU MUCH. Terry - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? -Caveat Lector- Sorry Terry, I don't know what else to do other than to try clicking on and off the bars that you do have to see the difference. Also, look to see if there is an arrow next to any of them, as there might be some options that you can't see. Hilary -- From: Terry Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 7:39 PM Hilary, I click on view and only see Tool Bars, Status Bar, Explorer - Go to , stop, refresh ... I don't see "Icon bar". I ran RUN/System File Checker and all is in order. I tried clicking on view in both the OE email and the IE internew bar. Tired Terry - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? -Caveat Lector- Hi Terry, Click on View. Then make sure you put a check next to the "icon bar." Hilary -- From: Terry Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:51 PM I cannot see the bar where you are to type in an internet address. I tried Tools/View - nothing works to get it back. I follow instructions on Help but no luck. I sure can use any help anybody has. Thanks. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread thr
[CTRL] Colorado Humor
-Caveat Lector- Yikes, this is SO true! Hilary (dwelling in Colorado) Colorado Humor You might be from Colorado if ... ... You carry your $3,000 mountain bike on top of your $500 car. ... You thought "Californication" would be banned by Amendment 2. ... You think "South Park" is a place to stop for gas on your way to Buena Vista. ... You have a business degree and are frying burgers at a McDonald's in Vail. ... You have a fat tire in your refrigerator AND your garage. ... You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home from work and he stops at the day care. ... You own a big dog named Aspen, Buck, Cheyenne or Dakota that wears a bandanna. ... You cast out your fishing line while white-water rafting. ... You've never seen the tourist attractions in your own city. ... All summer you thought a redneck named "Bubby" was gonna be your quarterback. ... You think a pass does not involve a football or a woman. ... You are 82 years old and take up snowboarding. ... Your SUV tire size exceeds your IQ. ... Your real Y2K fear is running out of Celestial Seasonings tea and trail mix. ... The entire top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail. ... You personally wouldn't pay $10 per head to drive up Pikes Peak unless it was the only mountain on earth ... but you tell all your house-guests to do it. ... You can recite the entire Bible from memory, but can't remember to use your turn signal (oh those Colorado Springs folk). ... You get depressed after one day of foggy weather. ... You wear the latest fashions a year after they went out of style. ... You think that formal wear is ironed denim. ... North means "mountains to the left;" south is "mountains to the right;" and east and west are where all those damned liberals keep moving in from. ... You go anywhere else on the planet and the air feels "sticky" and you notice the sky is no longer blue. ... You consider a three-piece suit to be a pair of shorts, a sweatshirt and Birkenstocks. ... You see your East Coast relatives now more than when you lived there. ... You think gun control is not dropping it. ... Your bridal registry is at REI. ... You can run up 10 flights of stairs without huffing and puffing. ... You've stood on solid ground and looked down on an airplane in flight. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Maxygen Announces $6.7 Million Grant from DARPA toDevelopAerosolized Vaccines
-Caveat Lector- Thanks Steve, Hilary -- From: Steve Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Maxygen Announces $6.7 Million Grant from DARPA toDevelopAerosolized Vaccines Date: Friday, November 05, 1999 1:33 PM -Caveat Lector- Hilary, This was from the Maxygen company website, under "1999 Press Releases". Regards, Steve http://www.maxygen.com/webpage_templates/secondary.php3?page_name=1999_pr On 5 Nov 99, at 9:52, Hilary A. Thomas wrote: Steve, Where did you get this announcement from - the source? Hilary Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it?
-Caveat Lector- Hi Terry, Click on View. Then make sure you put a check next to the "icon bar." Hilary -- From: Terry Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:51 PM I cannot see the bar where you are to type in an internet address. I tried Tools/View - nothing works to get it back. I follow instructions on Help but no luck. I sure can use any help anybody has. Thanks. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it?
-Caveat Lector- Sorry Terry, I don't know what else to do other than to try clicking on and off the bars that you do have to see the difference. Also, look to see if there is an arrow next to any of them, as there might be some options that you can't see. Hilary -- From: Terry Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 7:39 PM Hilary, I click on view and only see Tool Bars, Status Bar, Explorer - Go to , stop, refresh ... I don't see "Icon bar". I ran RUN/System File Checker and all is in order. I tried clicking on view in both the OE email and the IE internew bar. Tired Terry - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? -Caveat Lector- Hi Terry, Click on View. Then make sure you put a check next to the "icon bar." Hilary -- From: Terry Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] I lost my internet bar, does anyone know how to fix it? Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:51 PM I cannot see the bar where you are to type in an internet address. I tried Tools/View - nothing works to get it back. I follow instructions on Help but no luck. I sure can use any help anybody has. Thanks. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [InTheShadows] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] SkeptiNews 991103a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. How about sense, logic, or reason? : No annoying commentators were harmed during production of this bulletin. Yes, and I find this damn annoying! Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hi
-Caveat Lector- Hi All, I've found a great get-paid online survey program. This is the best program I've found. The more surveys you fill out the larger your pay (in cash) its - literally hundreds of dollars. If anyone is interested contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll have a one-time letter sent to you. If you change your mind, ignore the letter. They will not contact you again. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Last Liberty Tree Imperiled - An Omen?
-Caveat Lector- Last Liberty Tree Imperiled By TOM STUCKEY .c The Associated Press ANNAPOLIS, Md. (Oct. 18) - The last of the liberty trees - where American colonists once incited rebellion against the British - has been so damaged by storms and decay it should be cut down, according to an expert who examined the 400-year-old tulip poplar. Winds from Hurricane Floyd fractured the trunk and the tree now endangers anything near it, arborist Russell Carlson said in a report to the state and St. John's College. The college, which has held its commencement under the tree for 200 years, will decide soon whether to remove the tree or try to save it, spokeswoman Barbara Goyette said. There were once 13 liberty trees - one in each of the original Colonies - where the Sons of Liberty met and plotted the Revolution. The tulip poplar on the St. John's campus is the last surviving liberty Tree. In a report submitted Oct. 9, Carlson said ''the entire tree now consists of a hollow shell of wood, sometimes only two or three inches thick.'' He estimated 85 percent of the wood has been lost to decay. Carlson rejected the use of extensive internal or external mechanical supports, which might prolong the life of the tree. ''It would be an obtrusive and ignominious life support system for this grand old champion,'' he said. ''Campers and wanderers, children and philosophers, vagrants and presidents, have all stood in the shade of this ancient giant. But finally, it is time to say goodbye to our old friend,'' Carlson wrote. Mike Morrill, spokesman for Gov. Parris Glendening, said the governor was ''extraordinarily sad that the arborist did not have better news.'' This spring, state officials arranged for cuttings to be taken from the tree so clones could be produced. Louise Hayman, director of the commission that handled the procedure, said scientists won't know until the end of the year if it will succeed. If it does, seedlings will be presented to the 49 other states, she said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Thank You.
-Caveat Lector- Thank you to all who have signed up for The Valuepay program. I make a general 'Thank You' as I have no way of knowing who signed up. I just did a quick calculation and if everyone uses it to the maximum (50 hours a month) I'll get a monthly check of $120. So, it really will pay for a few things. Sign up and refer some people and you too can make some money. Also check out the All Advantage program listed below: All Advantage: This is an advertising banner which shows up on your screen. It is up and running and ready to go. You can click it off when you don't want to see it. You can earn up to $20 a month (50 cents and hour). The real money is in getting other people to sign up under your account: Go to: https://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refrid=EPA-317 Valuepay. The software isn't ready yet and will be first come-first serve. So sign up now and get people under your account. This will be a MINI browser that you can use whenever you want and will NOT affect your current browser. The page is busy a lot so it it doesn't come up take again later. Go to: http://valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] More Get Paid to Surf Sites
-Caveat Lector- You're welcome. I'll have some more goodies coming later. Hilary -- From: piper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] More "Get Paid to Surf" Sites Date: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:34 PM -Caveat Lector- I tried one of these before and it tried to take over, but I took a look at the first one and it looks great. Thank You Pied Piper === Kindly use my MemberID while signing up, MemberID: Hilary To sign up, click here: http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary Hilary A. Thomas wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hi all, With the help of DanS, I've just located and signed up for a whole bunch of "get paid to surf" sites. I'm trying to organize the information as best as possible to make it easy for you. Sign up for none, one or all. Remember the address I used for these sites is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some sites ask for my reference number or email address. I'll just go right down the list to make it easy for you. This is a win-win for everyone, so jump aboard and earn some cash for hanging on the Net like I know you like to do anyway. Hitmaster (Data X Inc.): Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account: http://www.data-x.com/hitmaster/acc.asp?rid=21039 UtopiaAd: Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account: http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refId=161855 All community: Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account: http://AllCommunity.com/all.members/hilary/ DotAd: Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account: http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911 SharkHunt: Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account: http://www.sharkhunt.com/join/join.asp?shID=Hilary SendMoreInfo: Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account: http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/115670 PayBar. Use my ID# 1401181907 and go to: http://www.paybar.com I have some more to send out, but this should get you started. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Lots of Get paid stuff here
-Caveat Lector- Lots of Get paid stuff here. I've divided it into 4 categories: Have fun, Hilary 1) Redpen - They pay you to complete surveys. You also get entered into sweepstakes for prizes. Please use me as your referral. My referral ID is: 397667. Go to: http://www.redpen.com/overview/index.html 2) OneSight: http://www.onesight.com/reg.php3?ref_id=36659 3) My Points: Please use me as your referral - HilaryT. Go to: http://www.mypoints.com/ 4) All Paid For: Referral number - 12766. Go to: http://www.allpaidfor.com/index.cfm?referrernum=12766 5) Test Now: Referral: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.testnow.com/ 6) Voice of the Internet: Register and earn $5. Referral: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kcweb.com/vote/s_reg.htm 7) Market Profits: Go to: http://www.recommend-it.com/l.z.e?s=367276 8) iThink: Referral. Select other and put in my addy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ithinkinc.com/signup/regfrm.asp 9) InternetPoll: Referral: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.internetpoll.com/index.html 10) QuestionNet: Referral: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://questions.net/ Get Paid to Read EMail 1) Total e-Mail: Go to: http://www.totale-mail.com/referralentry.asp?Referrer=HilaryT 2) Net-4-Biz: Rererall number: 4534 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.net-4-biz.com/readmail.html Some clarification about the various "earn while you surf" programs I mentioned eariler. 1) Ignor SendMoreInfo. They want you to email everything through them. 2) All Advantage: This is an advertising banner which shows up on your screen. It is up and running and ready to go. You can click it off when you don't want to see it. You can earn up to $20 a month (50 cents and hour). The real money is in getting other people to sign up under your account: Go to: https://www.alladvantage.com/home.asp?refrid=EPA-317 3) Valuepay. The page is busy at the moment so, you may not be able to get on. The software isn't ready yet and will be first come-first serve. So sign up now and get people under your account. This will be a MINI browser that you can use whenever you want and will NOT affect your current browser. Go to: http://valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary 4) UtopiaAd. The software (Cashbar) isn't ready yet. Again, a first come-first serve situation. Go to: http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refld=161855 5) AllCommnuity. Has paid email program through my.yesmail. Need to wait about thirty days to get on lists for the email to start coming to you. Also has paid to surf stuff. Go to: http://allcommunity.com/all.members/hilary/ 6) DotAd. The software isn't ready yet. This will be a small icon (Harry). So, it's a good time to get people signed up under your account. Go to: http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911 7) DeskTopDollar. Software isn't ready to download yet. Go to: http://www.DesktopDollars.com/default.asp?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8) The Deal Viewer: Another earn as you go thingy. Go to: http://g1n.com/group_manager/members/Hilary.html 9) Hitmaster. Another pay as you go thing. Go to: http://www.data-x.com/hitmaster/acc.asp?rid=21039 10) ePipo. The software (Surf Window) isn't ready yet. You will get paid to look at ads on your screen. Go to: http://www.epipo.com/signup_form.asp?HilaryT Misc: 1) TargetShop. This is a ML referral program. You get $ for each purchase made downline on your account. My refferal number is 488118. Go to: http://www.targetshop.com/AboutTarget.asp DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [InTheShadows] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
-Caveat Lector-
Geez people. Kids like gross and disgusting things (especially little
boys). It's a toy/candy to them - nothing more. The account of this woman
fainting over a candy stick is hilarious and definitely (IMHO) a major
over-reaction.
Hilary
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Subject: [SC] Re: [InTheShadows] Skeptic News - Thursday #2
Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:31 AM
...hi,
a. i personally thought it looks like a tongue- i saw it in the store
weeks ago...but,personally even thats gross. but what is worse
is what i read in the article:
{One mother brought the toy home for her 3 year old son. She had no idea
what it was, because the demon's mouth was closed when she purchased it.
She
turned her head for an instant and when she looked back and saw her boy
sucking on the sex tongue, she fainted dead on the spot. It took a team
of
four paramedics to bring her round. The boy was punished, and the candy
destroyed. }
mom gives him the candy- but, the kid is punished. whats with that?
instead of worrieing about what kids might learn from some stupid candy
maybe they aught to worry about what their learning from bad parenting;
like punishing your kid because he did exactly what he was supposed to
do.
..ob
...a logician of the logos of
love
# GET YOUR JAR JAR BINKS SEX CANDY TODAY! The Baptists say that the
ten-inch tongue is really a male sex organ. I'll take their word
for that. http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0899/toy.html
: How long is your tongue? Do male/female humans/aliens/animals/robots
have
longer tongues? Do you prize long tongues? Do Baptists have short
tongues?
If I said you had a nice tongue, would you hold it against me? Where???
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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - HIATUS
-Caveat Lector- From: "ric carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] SkeptiNews 991001a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question Publication of SkeptiNews will suspended until further notice - probably resuming in 1.5 weeks, say on or after 11 October 1999, but don't try to hold me to that. Your hard-working editor/reporter/commentator will head up to the Arctic Circle to observe alien mating rituals, monitor Aurora Borealis displays, try some Tcl/Tk programming, and mind-meld with brown bears. Pity da bears. Remember, only YOU can prevent forests. Cya --Ric Whaaa No beer and tin foil hat? Have fun. I look forward to seeing your alien photos upon your return. Yes, I do pity the bears. Play nice. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco
-Caveat Lector- Oh, poor Timothy wanted a better way for the WACO situation and when that didn't happened he blew up a building. Yeah, that's a better way Hilary -- From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 7:48 AM -Caveat Lector- From The Oklahoman, http://www.oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/getarticle?ID=372785 - McVeigh's ex-attorney links bombing, Waco 09/09/1999 The Associated Press The attorney who defended Timothy McVeigh says he does not believe the Oklahoma City federal building would have been bombed had the entire truth about the Branch Davidian standoff near Waco, Texas, been told immediately. Attorney Stephen Jones said he agrees with federal prosecutors that the fiery end to the Waco standoff prompted the bombing. "Had the wheels of justice worked and there been an independent investigation and the responsibility assessed, there would have been no reason for an attack on the federal government in Oklahoma City," Jones told the Tulsa World for Thursday's editions. Prosecutors alleged that McVeigh was angry about how the government handled its attempt to arrest David Koresh at the Branch Davidian compound in 1993. -- Dan S DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hi All - what to make a buck?
-Caveat Lector- Hello all, I just joined with a new Internet Service that will pay up to $1.00 per hour to surf the Net with their new minibrowser called pIggy! pIggy! works ontop of your current browser, so there are no heavy downloads or changes you have to make. You dont have to visit any special sites or read any special emails. Just become a member, and continue surfing the way you normally do. Membership is FREE and takes only a few minutes. How does it work ? Well pIggy! displays mini-ads on the top right corner of your current unused space in your browser for which you are paid. Since ValuePay gets $$ for showing you these ads they split this income with you on an equal 50-50 basis. pIggy! is even intelligent and is capable of showing you only the ads you are interested in! Whats even better, is that for every person you tell about this offer and who joins, you will bepaid an additional $.10 for every dollar that they earn! Further, if the person you tell, tells someone else, then you will be paid an indirect referral fee of $.05 per dollar that they earn ... and so on upto 5 levels. This way your earnings can multiply exponentially! Kindly use my MemberID while signing up, MemberID: Hilary To sign up, click here: http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
