Question re:Debian and ppp...

1998-01-10 Thread smorrill
I have Debian 1.3 (from the Boot magazine cd) installed on my amd 586,
and most things are working well...got XFree86 running, starting to
learn my way around but still doing a lot of thrashing, and have rtfm'd
til the wee hours.

I'm trying to get a ppp connection to my ISP going and have run into
some problems.
I think I've got all my ppp files setup up correctly, using pon and
poff, modem's dialing out, everything looks good until;

(When I do a tail -f /var/log/messages, this is what I see...)

(I didn't include all the prior chat...the dialout script seems to be
ok...)

Jan 9 14:37:00 ariel chat [289]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Jan 9 14:37:00 ariel chat [289]: send (ATDT477-4400^M)
Jan 9 14:37:00 ariel chat [289]: expect (ogin)
Jan 9 14:37:16 ariel chat [289]: ATDT477-4400^M^M
Jan 9 14:37:16 ariel chat [289]: CONNECT 31200/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: ^M
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: ^M
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: port50 login -- got it
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: send (smorrill^M)
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: expect (word)
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: : smorrill^M
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: Password -- got it
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: send (??)
Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel pppd [199]: Serial connection established.
Jan 9 14:37:19 ariel pppd [199]: Using interface ppp1
Jan 9 14:37:19 ariel pppd [199]: Connect: ppp1 --- /dev/ttyS1
Jan 9 14:37:33 ariel pppd [291]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Jan 9 14:37:33 ariel pppd [291]: Using interface ppp0
Jan 9 14:37:33 ariel pppd [291]: Connect: ppp0 --- /dev/ttyp0
Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Connection terminated
Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:

Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Exit

Any suggestions here?  When it appears the ppp link is up (like when it
says Connect: ppp1, I try starting lynx, I get cannot access startfile
http://www.oro.net; (my ISP) When I try ping, I get network is
unreachable...  Can anybody tell from this log if I've actually made a
ppp connection? (Sorry if this is a _really_ stupid question...I'm real
new at this!) The tech support guy at my ISP said I didn't need to do
anything special to start ppp...but he did tell me I needed to do this
from Xwindows...He's a umsdos linux'r. Oh yeah, and they're not using
PAP.  Oronet is using Debian linux for their server, btw!

Also, I'm not on a network, I'm just a standalone box dialing into my
ISP. Should my machine name be the same as my ISP username? or does it
make a difference?

Any help greatly appreciated!!
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Re: Internet access with Debian --long reply

1998-01-10 Thread john
Jameson Burt writes:
 ...there is the Debian way which gets at this file's contents through
 other files, in particular /etc/chatscripts/provider.

Actually, this is the pppd-2.3 way.

 ...
 My comments may refect my installed ppp package, version 2.3.1-6.

They do. They also apply only to Debian-unstable.  1.3 comes with pppd-2.2,
which uses a different set of config files and does not support the 'call'
option.

 I altered his code to assure that pon starts no second pppd daemon and
 poff stops all pppd daemons.
 ...
 And essentially my poff is
   /usr/bin/killall -q -TERM pppd chat
   sleep 1
   /usr/bin/killall -q -QUIT pppd chat

This will kill at most two pppd's.  You also don't need to kill the chat.
pppd kills its process group before exiting.

You might want to look at my improved poff.  It does what you want while
remaining backward-compatible.

 I would like to hear of another approach to viewing ppp connection speed.

You can use chat's report string faciliy to log the connect string reported
by the modem to a file.

 I feel debian needs much more documentation for the ppp user.  Running
 ppp is more complicate than running full-time ethernet, yet the ppp home
 user has much less experience than the ethernet user.

I agree.  I think dunc-2.3 would have saved you many of those hundreds of
hours. Too bad it is only available via email from me.
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How to boot multiple OS

1998-01-10 Thread whkye
Hi!

Now I try to install the debian 1.3.1 package.
It seems that the debian liloconfig  does not support multiple
OS boot. It does not ask me the other partition
information.
I look forward to attach the appropriate tag to distinguish other
OS partition as done in the slackware dist.
It there a solution?

Thanks , in advance



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All Package install

1998-01-10 Thread whkye
Hi!

I would like to install all package with debian 1.3.1.
How can I set in the dselect menu to select all package?
Thanks In advance

whkye


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Re: Re: help with tSCSI imeout problem

1998-01-10 Thread Ken Gaugler
Hi Bill.

About the SCSI timeout problem I have been having, simply trying
a new kernel will not solve this problem; I get the same behavior
running Win 95 and NT, both of which I need to use on this system.

At this point I need to figure out some other motherboard - this
no-name one is highly suspect in my mind.  Cheap, and worth it too.

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RE: Upgrade to libc6...

1998-01-10 Thread John Marter

:On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:
:
:: Hi!
:: 
::   Just wondering how to uprade to libc6? Do I just install
the libc6 package,
::   or do I have to reinstall my hole system? ...
::  
::  http://www.debian.org/devel/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
:: 
:: Ok ... but I just have a little problem (i think!) :)
:: 
:: the libc6 package conflicts with libc5,and when i tries to
remove 
:: libc5 a lot of programs depends on that...
::  
:
:Read the last paragraph of Scott Ellis's FAQ (section 4.6).
The URL is
:cleverly hidden in this email message.
:
:
I read that and I was wondering what exactly the conflicts are.
It
mentions 'locales' and the 'format of utmp/wtmp'.  What kinds of
problems are caused by these conflicts?

VAResearch had me upgrade to libc6 and override the conflict
so that I could add another package I needed.  After two days, 
I haven't noticed any problems (other than I now have both 
libc5 and libc6 in memory, I presume, when I am running X.)

I have grabbed the libc5_5.4.33-3.deb package that the
FAQ suggests as an alternative, but I haven't installed
it yet.  Is there anything I should look for?

Thanks,
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Re: All Package install

1998-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
whkye wrote:
 I would like to install all package with debian 1.3.1.
 How can I set in the dselect menu to select all package?

Go to the Select screen, and search for the line that reads Available
packages (not currently installed) (it comes immediatly after the list of 
packages you already have installed) ,move the highlight to that line, and
press +. 

** WARNING ** : You will then get a huge list of dependancy problems. You 
cannot really install all packages, because some conflict with others. Dselect
will detect that and make you chose to only install one package out of a set
of conflicting packages.

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Re: new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems

1998-01-10 Thread Damir J. Naden
Yup, this took care of this little problem. I still have problems with
my fetchmail, though. In this (new) version of the smail a new (?)
variable is added to the /etc/smail/config file named 'more_hostnames'
wher it includes 'localhost'. My guess would be that should take care of
the earlier problem with localhost and hostnames (but I'm not sure).
What I can do:
1-- telnet to 'inforamp.net smtp' from a VC and get a 220--banner thingy
2-- telnet to 'localhost smtp' from a VC as a user and get a 220--banner
3-- my fetchmail, when invoked, sees the number of messages on the
remote server (it is giving me a feedback with the number of mails), but
my machine seems to be refusing the SMTP connection attempt by fetchmail
( error says something about 'SMTP connection refused by
my_machine_name').
So, my guess is it has something to do with permissions to allow the
access, but I don't know where to look...

Any help appreciated
Damir

John Boggon wrote:
 
 I had the same problem as this today after upgrading last night
 
 Check the last line in your /etc/smail/config file. Mine had the last   in 
 the wrong place. Move it back one space and all should be ok.



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Re: hamm CD in area NL?

1998-01-10 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Maarten Boekhold wrote:

 : is there somebody in (or close to) the netherlands who has the means to
 : burn a CD with the current hamm-distribution (main/contrib/non-free)? And
 : then ofcourse send it to me. I can't do this, and downloading the whole
 : thing on 28k8 is no fun and costs a fortune. Running around with floppy
 : disks ain't fun either :)

Don't know if Cistron burns 'hamm'-CD's too, but you could checkout
http://www.cistron.nl/debian/ for information.


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More SCSI timeout problems

1998-01-10 Thread Ken Gaugler
Still trying to debug this situation with my AHA-2940 timing out.

Background on this is I took my Intel Zappa Motherboard with the
Pentium-90 out of the box, and put in this new mystery motherboard
made by eurone with 200MHz Cyrix MMX cpu, and now during long
file transfer operations, I get timeouts and SCSI resets.

Everyone suggested I check my termination and cabling, (which was not
changed when the new motherboard was put in) and I didn't see anything
out of whack. Just in case I put in a SCSI cable with only 2 connectors,
one end in the AHA-2940 and the other in a terminated hard drive. Lo
and behold if I try to transfer large (  1 or 2 megs) files, the
timeouts occur. Here are the error messages:

Dec 31 21:32:42 keng-ppp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout
: pid 3803, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x0a 01 3a 15 f4 00  
Dec 31 21:32:42 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (abort) Aborting scb 1, TCL
0/0/0 
Dec 31 21:32:42 keng-ppp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout
: pid 3804, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x0a 01 3b 09 f4 00  
Dec 31 21:32:42 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (abort) Aborting scb 0, TCL
0/0/0 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout
: pid 3803, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 0x0a 01 3a 15 f4 00  
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (abort) Aborting scb 1, TCL
0/0/0 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 3803) timed out
- resetting 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0
channel 0. 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (reset) target/channel 0/0 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (abort_reset) scb state 0x1,
Data-Out phase, SCSISIGI = 0x4 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_device) target/channel
-1/A, active_scb 1 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (match_scb) comparing
target/channel -1/A to scb 0/A 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_device) aborting SCB 0,
TCL=0/0/0 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (match_scb) comparing
target/channel -1/A to scb 0/A 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (match_scb) comparing
target/channel -1/A to scb 0/A 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_channel) Resetting
current channel A 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_channel) Channel reset,
sequencer restarted 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (done_aborted_scbs) Aborting
scb 0, TCL=0/0/0 
Dec 31 21:32:59 keng-ppp kernel: aic7xxx: (done_aborted_scbs) Aborting
scb 1, TCL=0/0/0 
Dec 31 21:33:01 keng-ppp kernel: scsi0: Target 0, channel A, now
synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset 15. 


At this point I believe there must be some fundamental incompatibility
between the
2940 and this motherboard.

Should I run out and buy something different? This is getting expensive
!! Is anyone
using a 2940 with a ASUS SP 97 board successfully? I as because they are
available here
for around $350 with 200MHZ Intel Pentium.

I would appreciate any reports and/or suggestions on how to get back on
the air here.

Thanks!

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Re: LILO stopped working

1998-01-10 Thread Steve Millard
 Date:  Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:02:08 -0500
 From:  Bruce Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:   LILO stopped working

 I normally leave my computer on all the time.  Just the other day I
 rebooted and LILO would not work.  It prints LI on the screen and then
 freezes.  I have not rebooted my computer in a few weeks and much has
 changed.  I am running 2.0.33 with LILO 20-0.1.  I have tried running
 LILO off of a floppy and that does not work.  The drive is a Quantum
 SCSI disk of 3.2 gb with a 2.0 gb linux partition at the beginning.  Any
 one have any ideas?
 

Bruce, 
This has happened to me a few times, ususally because the kernel has been
touched, either moved or compiled. LILO has in effect a pointer to the sector 
where the kernel resides. Doing anything to the kernel will usually result in 
it being in a different sector. Time to dig out the emergency disk, mount the 
disk partition that is root on / and do LILO again. For what its worth, I 
decided a long time ago to direct LILO to put it's stuff on a floppy. I got 
into too many scary senario's dickering with the MBR.

Good Luck, Steve
 Stephen Millard
Websmith Enterprises Inc.
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Re: Good Linux books??

1998-01-10 Thread Britton

On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Rick wrote:

 I am looking for some good books, that introduce linux and provide a good
 reference for the begginer, but will still be a usefull reference later on.

I found Linux in a Nutshell from O'Reilly to be helpful.  It is a sort of
plain english command reference, like man pages only way more readable.
It covers user, sysadmin, and networking commands, and talks briefly about
shells.  It is good for just helping you figure out what is out there as
well as how it works.  I also read Learning the Bash Shell (O'Reilly)
which was definately worthwhile.

 I am unsure about the 'xxx for dummies' books, as i have recently found at
 my cost, they assume you really are dumb and the first half focuses more on
 background history, basic concept of whatever the book is about, and
 useless information, while the second half explanes only a few of the
 really basic concepts, taking 200+ pages to do it. (i am refering to Java
 for dummies, but the other books in this range i have looked at seem
 similar).
 
 I am looking for a book that lets you 'get dirty' right from page 1, and by
 the finish makes you feel like you've actually learnt something you hadn't
 figured out for yourself.
 
 Thanks
 Rick
 
 PS, I recently recived a spam mail (nothing unusual abou that!) but the
 signature text at the end was the same as the debian lists. Is this group
 moderated?, and if not, why not!

The volume makes it a pain I guess.

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Re: bash shell script questions

1998-01-10 Thread Rob S. Wolfram
David Stern wrote: 
 I know this isn't a bash shell script news group, but the fact is I 
 can't find one.  Since bash is the default linux shell, I was hoping 
news://comp.unix.shell

 someone could answer a few pretty simple questions.
 
 1.) How do I insert a newline character in a double-quoted string?
If you mean when using bash's built-in echo command, use 
echo -e Test\nMoreText

 
 2.) What is a good method to reassign variables interactively?
read VAR

[snip]

 #!/bin/sh
You should use '#!/bin/bash' really, because now sh is just a link
to bash, but you are not guaranteed that in a future version it will
be another shell, or that bash _will_ act more (dumb) Bourne like in
the future when called as 'sh' (I for one would appreciate it).
 # David's Backup Utility (dbu) v. 0.1
 # David Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 # Tue Jan  6 15:31:01 PST 1998
 
 dbu_list=/root/dbu_list
 destination=/backup2
 device=/dev/sdb2
 copymethod=safecopy2
 option=0
 
 echo  ; echo David's Backup Utility v. 0.1. ; echo  ;
 while [ $option -ne 7 ] 
  Do surround vars in a test in double quotes, to protect the empty
  string, like in: while [ $option -ne 7 ]

 do
   echoSelect a backup operation 
   echo  
   echo1. Change source list.
   echo2. Change backup destination base directory.  
   echo3. Change backup device.  
   echo4. Change copy method.
   echo5. Format backup destination device.  
   echo6. Backup selected files to $destination. 
   echo7. Quit.  
   echo  
   echoSource list is $dbu_list  
   echoDestination directory is $destination 
   echoBackup device is $device  
   echoCopy method is $copymethod 
 ; echo  ;
  ^ I suppose this belongs to the last line?
  
   read option
   case $option in
 1)
   echo   Change source list.
   echo   How do I interactively reassign \$dbu_list ? ; echo  ;
read dbu_list
Or maybe you want to use another var, test its validity and eventually
reassign your old one with $SECONDVAR ?

 ;;
 2) 
   echo   Change backup destination base directory.
   echo   How do I interactively reassign \$destination ? ; echo 
  ;
 ;;
 3)
   echo   Change backup device.
   echo   How do I interactively reassign \$device ? ; echo  ;
 ;;
 4)
   echoChange copy method.
   echoHow do I interactively reassign \$copymethod ? ; echo 
  ;
 ;;
 5) 
   echoFormat backup destination directory. ; echo  ;
 #  mke2fs -v $device
 ;;
 6) 
   echoBackup selected files to $destination .
   for source in `cat $dbu_list`
 do
   if [ -d $destination$source ] # helper
 then 
   echo$destination$source exists.
 else
   echo$destination$source does not exist.
 # mkdir $destination$source
   fi
   echo$copymethod $source ... $destination$source ; echo 
  ;
 # $copymethod $source $destination$source
 ##echo  ; echo ls $source; echo  ; ls $source ;
 done
 ;;
   esac
 done

Politically biassed advice: man cpio

Cheers,
Rob
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Re: Unix qulifications...

1998-01-10 Thread Rob S. Wolfram
Robert Moody wrote: 
 Hi there,
 
 This might be a little off topic but it is on the subject of Unix based
 system and I thought you helpfull Debian users might be able to help
 me. What I want to know is if there are any Unix based qulifications,
 similar to Novells CNA, CNE and Microsofts MCSE. If there are could
 someone point me in the right direction.
 
SCO has one (check www.sco.com and look for ACE Certification)
As I heard Redhat seems to develop something too. Also Mark Grennan
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) did set up an LCSE mailing list. This would be
some sort of 'freeware' Linux Certification via the Web.
I don't know if it still exists, I'm not on the list. His web site:
( http://okcforum.org/~markg/markg/ ) said nothing about it last
time I looked.

HTH,
Rob

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Re: Upgrade to libc6...

1998-01-10 Thread David Z. Maze

John Marter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JM I read that and I was wondering what exactly the conflicts are.
JM It mentions 'locales' and the 'format of utmp/wtmp'.  What kinds
JM of problems are caused by these conflicts?

libc6 has its own locales package, so there aren't any problems caused 
by conflicting with the libc5 version of same.  The utmp/wtmp problem
is a little trickier, though: it causes libc5 programs that directly
write to the wtmp file to break the 'last' command, and using
incompatible versions of libc.so.5 with glibc can also break the utmp
file and the 'who' commands and friends.  Using the libc5 package in
hamm gets around at least this last problem.

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Re: Question re:Debian and ppp...

1998-01-10 Thread bhmit1
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, smorrill wrote:

 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: port50 login -- got it
 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: send (smorrill^M)
 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: expect (word)
 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: : smorrill^M
 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: Password -- got it
 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel chat [289]: send (??)
 Jan 9 14:37:18 ariel pppd [199]: Serial connection established.
 Jan 9 14:37:19 ariel pppd [199]: Using interface ppp1
 Jan 9 14:37:19 ariel pppd [199]: Connect: ppp1 --- /dev/ttyS1
 Jan 9 14:37:33 ariel pppd [291]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
 Jan 9 14:37:33 ariel pppd [291]: Using interface ppp0
 Jan 9 14:37:33 ariel pppd [291]: Connect: ppp0 --- /dev/ttyp0
 Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
 Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Connection terminated
 Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
 
 Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
 Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Exit

Hmmm... ppp1 and ppp0?  Oh, 2 different pppd sessions.  /dev/ttyp0 is
wrong, did you call ppp some funny way?  I would try minicom, dial in by
hand, and see what happens when you get past the login.  Also, make sure
/etc/resolv.conf is set up correctly.  You should see something like:

Jan  9 20:19:53 cnhobbes pppd[320]: local  IP address 209.96.153.139
Jan  9 20:19:53 cnhobbes pppd[320]: remote IP address 209.96.152.32

after the connect.  Then you will have a route to the host and can do your
networking.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: LILO stopped working

1998-01-10 Thread bhmit1
Quick lesson in LILO from /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz:

LILO start message
- - - - - - - - -

When LILO loads itself, it displays the word LILO. Each letter is
printed 
before or after performing some specific action. If LILO fails at some 
point, the letters printed so far can be used to identify the problem.
This 
is described in more detail in the technical overview.

Note that some hex digits may be inserted after the first L if a 
transient disk problem occurs. Unless LILO stops at that point, generating 
an endless stream of error codes, such hex digits do not indicate a severe 
problem.

  (nothing)  No part of LILO has been loaded. LILO either isn't installed 
or the partition on which its boot sector is located isn't active. 
   L error ...   The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started, 
but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error 
codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section Disk error 
codes.) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry 
mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section Disk geometry). 
   LI   The first stage boot loader was able to load the second stage boot 
loader, but has failed to execute it. This can either be caused by a 
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/boot.b without running the map 
installer. 
   LIL   The second stage boot loader has been started, but it can't load 
the descriptor table from the map file. This is typically caused by a 
media failure or by a geometry mismatch. 
   LIL?   The second stage boot loader has been loaded at an incorrect 
address. This is typically caused by a subtle geometry mismatch or by 
moving /boot/boot.b without running the map installer. 
   LIL-   The descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a 
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map 
installer. 
   LILO   All parts of LILO have been successfully loaded. 

Good luck,
Brandon

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Re: bash shell script questions

1998-01-10 Thread David Stern
On Fri, 09 Jan 1998 23:01:54 +0100, Rob S. Wolfram wrote:
 David Stern wrote: 
[..]
 news://comp.unix.shell

I know now.

  1.) How do I insert a newline character in a double-quoted string?
 If you mean when using bash's built-in echo command, use 
 echo -e Test\nMoreText

I'll use that in the future.

  2.) What is a good method to reassign variables interactively?
 read VAR

Got it, thanks.
 
  #!/bin/sh
 You should use '#!/bin/bash' really, because now sh is just a link
 to bash, but you are not guaranteed that in a future version it will
 be another shell, or that bash _will_ act more (dumb) Bourne like in
 the future when called as 'sh' (I for one would appreciate it).

Noted.  However I thought that /bin/sh was more un*x-compatible, thus 
more extensible across other platforms where bash may not be available, 
therefore making /bin/sh preferred. True?/Not true?

(When, if ever, do you think use of /bin/sh is appropriate?)

  echo  ; echo David's BackupUtility v. 0.1. ; echo  ;
  while [ $option -ne 7 ] 
 Do surround vars in a test in double quotes, to protect the empty
 string, like in: while [ $option -ne 7 ]

Noted. Thankyou very much.

echoCopy method is $copymethod 
  ; echo  ;
 ^ I suppose this belongs to the last line?

I set email linewrap to 72, but allowed a few more in my code.

read option
case $option in
  1)
echo   Change source list.
echo   How do I interactively reassign \$dbu_list ? ; echo  ;
 read dbu_list
 Or maybe you want to use another var, test its validity and eventually
 reassign your old one with $SECONDVAR ?

Exactly.  Immediately following the original post, a number of thoughts 
I was having formed ideas, which dawned some realizations and I haven't 
really mapped out where I want to take this, because some of my ideas 
will require more error handling than I think is suited for a bash 
script.  Fortunately, I got it to work and added a few of my ideas, so 
it works well enough to pass proof test, which allows me to use it a 
little and see how I'd like it to develop.

 Politically biassed advice: man cpio

Although I'm not intimate with cpio yet, that's the agenda.  In any 
event, my default copy method (safecopy2) implements cpio.  I've 
intentionally made this modular so I don't have do any deathly hacking 
should I decide to make any changes.  Thanks to you all, it works 
pretty well. :-)

I more or less figure this is amateur code, but it works pretty well, 
so if anyone wants to use or mangle it, feel free to have a go at it. 
:-)


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 message/external-body;	name="/home/share/bin/dbu";	access-type=LOCAL-FILE;	site="localhost.localdomain": Unrecognized 
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exmh questions become exmh questions

1998-01-10 Thread maor
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the suggestion to look at GNUS and the other responses.
My setup is similar to what Daniel Martin? described on his web page.
I had to enter several lines in the frommap to correct what the different
mail programs considered to be the from address:

bradshaw  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw)

freefall is my host, and mindspring.com is my isp and is set in visible
name.

I'm still having a problem with local mail though.  I can send mail
to a username without problems, but replying to this mail generates an
invalid address.  For example, in elm a reply to a local message From:
bradshaw, would be addressed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED](none).  I could
qualify all from addresses even in the local transport so that replies
would be forced through the isp, but I'd rather keep the mail local.
I saw a suggestion to use someething like @home.net for local users.
The MUA's I've seen try to qualify the username and that dummy address
might be the thing to use.  Please send your suggestions, or I'll post
if I get things improved a little more.

Thanks,
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browser with strong encryption?

1998-01-10 Thread freefall!bradshaw
Hi,

Does anyone know of a browser with 128-bit encryption.  I need access to a
site that requires 128-bit encryption (it detects 40 or 56-bit encryption
and disables features on the site) and I'd hate to have to use win95.
Does netscape plan to make Navigator or Communicator available with
128-bit encryption for linux?  Are there any other options?

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Suck and Inn

1998-01-10 Thread Tony Schonfeld
hello everubody , 

Since my News provider has disable the NEWNEWS command i've decided
to use Suck with Inn.
How to use this package for full compatibility with Inn ? 
i've modified the get-news script to have -M flag and the 
target directory, because in the original version the articles 
are stored in /var/lib/suck/msg.hostname  and Inn don't look that.

tks for help 
Tony


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Re: browser with strong encryption?

1998-01-10 Thread Dan Hugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone know of a browser with 128-bit encryption.  I need access to a
 site that requires 128-bit encryption (it detects 40 or 56-bit encryption
 and disables features on the site) and I'd hate to have to use win95.
 Does netscape plan to make Navigator or Communicator available with
 128-bit encryption for linux?  Are there any other options?

I spoke to a friend at Netscape a few weeks ago about just that very
question, and he replied with something about a general lack of
attention to UN*X versions lately (he likes Linux...).  Linux receives
much less attention than IRIX or Solaris/SunOS, of course.

I thought I heard that caldera was supporting a linux version of some of
Netscape's products, including tech support.  Perhaps they are selling
the US version (which uses stronger encryption).

As for 128 bit, I assume you mean something like IDEA?  Or maybe
something like Triple DES, or RC5 with a 128 bit key?  I am not sure
what Navigator/Communicator use anymore... it's been a while.

Hope that helped a little, at least.

-dh


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Re: SEGMENTATION FAULT

1998-01-10 Thread William R Ward
Faiz ul Haque Zeya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 All the Xprograms (my own or  source) compiled  on my system (gcc) exits
 immediately showing  Segmentaion  fault when run . They however get compiled
 and linked without showinig any error  . Any help .

Sounds like a mismatch between your libc and your Xwindows libs.  I
had this too, and I had to upgrade just about everything to hamm
before things started working properly again.  Now everything works
except Netscape, which I can't possibly recompile!!! :(

--Bill.

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Re: SEGMENTATION FAULT

1998-01-10 Thread William R Ward
Faiz ul Haque Zeya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 All the Xprograms (my own or  source) compiled  on my system (gcc) exits
 immediately showing  Segmentaion  fault when run . They however get compiled
 and linked without showinig any error  . Any help .

Sounds like a mismatch between your libc and your Xwindows libs.  I
had this too, and I had to upgrade just about everything to hamm
before things started working properly again.  Now everything works
except Netscape, which I can't possibly recompile!!! :(

--Bill.

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socks 5 debian module?

1998-01-10 Thread William R Ward
Does anyone know why there isn't a socks5 debian module in hamm?  I
compiled it myself and have it in /usr/local but would rather have it
installed properly...

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patch for man command

1998-01-10 Thread Maurizio Marini
Hi,
i've installed debian 1.3 by
cd availeble on various zines.
someone knows how to patch the command man?
if hi enter :
#set PAGER less; export PAGER
i get this error:
sh: exec: pager: not found
man: command exited with status 32512: /bin/gzip -dc
'/var/catman/cat1/ftp.1.gz' | { export MAN_PN LESS; MAN_PN='ftp(1)';
LESS=$LESS\$-Pm\:\$ix8mPm Manual page $MAN_PN ?ltline %lt?L/%L.:byte
%bB?s/%s..?e (END):?pB %pB\\%..; exec pager -s; }


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Re: Help: System time lags CMOS time

1998-01-10 Thread William R Ward
Oz Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 My system time lags after the CMOS time. They start as the same
 time, but then through the day the system time lags. By 12 hours it
 is about one hour behind.
 
 This started since I have added a new SCSI-UW disk, I have transfered the
 linux root to the new disk, the old EIDE is still the master boot.
 
 Does anyone have any idea why, and how it can be fixed.
 Do I need to recompile linux on the new hard disk.

Slave your system to a trusted Net host using 'netdate' and then set
your CMOS clock from that using 'hwclock'.  I have a cron job that
does this nightly; you may wish to run it every 3 or 4 hours.  It's
probably due to your SCSI card stealing interrupts that would
otherwise update the clock.  You might be able to configure your SCSI
host adapter to use less interrupts or get a bus mastering adapter.

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Re: Help: System time lags CMOS time

1998-01-10 Thread William R Ward
Oz Dror [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 My system time lags after the CMOS time. They start as the same
 time, but then through the day the system time lags. By 12 hours it
 is about one hour behind.
 
 This started since I have added a new SCSI-UW disk, I have transfered the
 linux root to the new disk, the old EIDE is still the master boot.
 
 Does anyone have any idea why, and how it can be fixed.
 Do I need to recompile linux on the new hard disk.

Slave your system to a trusted Net host using 'netdate' and then set
your CMOS clock from that using 'hwclock'.  I have a cron job that
does this nightly; you may wish to run it every 3 or 4 hours.  It's
probably due to your SCSI card stealing interrupts that would
otherwise update the clock.  You might be able to configure your SCSI
host adapter to use less interrupts or get a bus mastering adapter.

--Bill.

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Re: misc questions: screen, version notation

1998-01-10 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, Jan 09, 1998 at 12:31:22AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 G. Crimp wrote:
  I am in an interrogative mood this evening.  There are two things
  that have often caught my eye when cruising the dselect selection
  browser.  The screen package is one.  From the description it seems to
  me to be pretty much the same thing as the virtual terminals that come
  part and parcel with Linux.  Are they the same, or do they provide
  something the VT's don't ?
 
 Screen is useful becuase you can use it in situation where you're not at the
 console -- telnet to a remote host and run screen therem run it in your
 xterm, or from a dumb terminal.
 
 It also has additional handy features, most notable is the ability to
 detach the programs running under screen, and reattach to them later, from
 elsewhere.
  
  How does one read the version numbers in the dselect window ?  Eg.,
  gsfonts 4.01-5.  What does the -5 stand for ?
 
 It's the debian version number.

Note that when the upstream version (i.e. 4.01) increases, then the debian
version starts from 1 again.

(just for completeness)
If a non-maintainer release is made (because the normal maintainer can't for
some reason), then the debian version is increase by 0.1 rather than 1.

Adrian

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Re: misc questions: screen, version notation

1998-01-10 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Wed, Jan 08, 1997 at 11:17:42PM -0600, Asher Haig wrote:
 G. Crimp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 1/8/98 10:51 PM
 
  I am in an interrogative mood this evening.  There are two things
 that have often caught my eye when cruising the dselect selection
 browser.  The screen package is one.  From the description it seems to
 me to be pretty much the same thing as the virtual terminals that come
 part and parcel with Linux.  Are they the same, or do they provide
 something the VT's don't ?
 
 Screen is more for over telnet sessions etc. It also provides the ability 
 to detach (either great, or evil, depending on who you ask) screens and 
 resume them later.

I have a DEC vt420 terminal hooked up and the screen package allows me to do
virtual terminals on that (including cutpaste between the terminals) :-)

Adrian

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Libc6 (again) - missing files

1998-01-10 Thread Michael \[badpixel/bad sector\]
Hi!

Now I'we got libc6 installed! :) ... but it still gives me some 
problems.

Here's one of them:

In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig]
Error 2

I show up, when I try to do make menuconfig or make xconfig I can 
do a make config thoug. AND compile and install the kernel. Am I 
missing som dev files?

Also ... when i try to install ie. Netscape 3, it runs a little 
script, but stop with the error: unknow function mulk That error 
also show when i try to install the enlightenment package...

Any ideas?

Thanks!


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Re: Question re:Debian and ppp...

1998-01-10 Thread Martin Bialasinski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean:
  
  Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0
  Jan 9 14:38:04 ariel pppd [291]: Exit
 
 Hmmm... ppp1 and ppp0?  Oh, 2 different pppd sessions.  /dev/ttyp0 is
 wrong, did you call ppp some funny way?  I would try minicom, dial in by
 hand, and see what happens when you get past the login.  Also, make sure
 /etc/resolv.conf is set up correctly.  You should see something like:
 
In addition to that:

The above lines from the logfile indicate, that your chatscript is too
short.
Do you have to enter ppp after entering your password in the terminal
window? You don't have such a line in your chatscript.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: new smail pkg (3.2.0.100-1.deb) problems

1998-01-10 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Damir J. Naden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 remote server (it is giving me a feedback with the number of mails), but
 my machine seems to be refusing the SMTP connection attempt by fetchmail
 ( error says something about 'SMTP connection refused by
 my_machine_name').
 So, my guess is it has something to do with permissions to allow the
 access, but I don't know where to look...

What does hostname --fqdn say? If it is something like mybox.inforamp.net,
then make sure you have a entry for this name in /etc/hosts or your box asks
your ISP's nameserver about the mybox host in the inforamp.net domain.
Then: a) the nameserver doesn't know about a host mybox or b) there is a
host with this name already at the domain, but it doesn't have the IP you
got on dialin.

In both cases your box refuses connection due to the ALL:PARANOID line in
/etc/hosts.deny.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: exmh questions become exmh questions

1998-01-10 Thread Martin Bialasinski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I saw a suggestion to use someething like @home.net for local users.
 The MUA's I've seen try to qualify the username and that dummy address
 might be the thing to use.  Please send your suggestions, or I'll post
 if I get things improved a little more.
 
This was my suggestion. This is *no* dummy address. This is a perfectly
legal domain for you intranet. If you have only one computer, let's call it
a net anyway. My first suggestion was home.net, but let me correct this:

Consider the case that you have no connection to the internet and only have
a intranet with a couple of hosts.

Then you have to specify a domainname and hostnames for the computers.

Now you chose a domain for the intranet. Let it be home.koeln. You have
three hosts named basement, office and entry. (FYI: koeln is the city
where I live.)

I have chosen a not-existent topleveldomain, so that there won't be any
trouble if there is (or will be) a legal home.net domain and you connect to
the internet.

Now setup /etc/hosts on the three hosts, so that they can resolve the names.
You could also set up a DNS Server for your home.koeln domain.

So you can send mail between the three systems and of cause between the
users on each host.

You now decide, that entry.home.koeln gets a modem to make a connection to
the internet. On dialin, entry gets an additional IP address and
host+domainame from your ISP. Entry is part of *two* domains.

So if you send mail from basement to

a) user
  it is delivered locally (pine will expand this to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

b) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  will work as before.

c) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  will be forwarded to your ISP's mailserver (if you chose a
  smarthost) or delivered directly by entry.

Read more about this in the Networkadministrator's Guide at the Linux
Documentation Project homepage.

For your case, you have to reduce this explanation to one host, but the
principle is the same. And maybe you will have more then one box someday.

You may want to browse the december archive of debian-user for some articles
about how to change your hostname and domain (you have to change multiple
files and I have never done this, so I don't know which :-) )

Ciao,
Martin


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netscape install - unknown function mulk (or mulc)

1998-01-10 Thread Michael \[badpixel/bad sector\]
Hi!

I have a litle problem with subject...

I am very sorry for asking all these stupid questions.


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make xconfig - unknown command: wish

1998-01-10 Thread Michael \[badpixel/bad sector\]
Hi!

Which package do i install know? :)


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Re: make xconfig - unknown command: wish

1998-01-10 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:

 Which package do i install know? :)

You need to install one of the tcl packages.

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Re: Graphics Board URGENT

1998-01-10 Thread Douglas Bates
Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The S3 Virge has been supported for a while under Xfree86 and is probably
 pretty stable by now.  Most any board should work in generic svga mode,
 ^^^
Not true.  The new Diamond Stealth II S220 based on the Verite' 2100
chip does not work even with xserver-svga.  It seems unlikely that
drivers will become available for it in the near future so watch out
for it.

I got caught in the situation of ordering a machine with the Diamond
Stealth thinking I would get the S3 card only to get this new Verite'
card.


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Re: Libc6 (again) - missing files

1998-01-10 Thread Martin Schulze
On Sat, Jan 10, 1998 at 01:00:07PM +, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Now I'we got libc6 installed! :) ... but it still gives me some 
 problems.
 
 Here's one of them:
 
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig]
 Error 2

curses.h not not part of the libc but of ncureses:

usr/include/curses.h 
devel/ncurses3.4-dev

You should install that package from the devel directory, too.

Regards

Joey
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Re:libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Igor Grobman

This version should be close to good enough.  The major change since the last 
one that was posted is the ability to upgrade from files in the current dir 
instead of a local mirror requirement. 

This script still needs testing.

--cut here--
#! /bin/sh

# upgrade a libc5 (bo) machine to libc6 (hamm).

# based on Scott Ellis' excellent Debian libc5 to libc6 Mini-HOWTO
# document at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html

# Author: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Copyright Status: This script is hereby placed in the public domain
#
# Revision History:
# v0.0: 1998-01-08 (morning)
#   - a rough transcript of scott's doc and my own experiences
# v0.1: 1998-01-08 (night)
#   - a few bugfixes
#   - i got unlazy and put in the right subdirectories for each package. 
# should run a lot faster.
#   - now checks for failure at critical points and exits with a different
# exit code for each failure.
#   - now uses 'binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)' instead 
# of 'binary-i386'.
# v0.2: 1998-01-09 
#   - fixed the perl-base/perl install (thanks Lindsay!)
#   - improved the DEVPACKAGES=$(dpkg --get-selections...) and added -dbg
# packages.
# v0.3: 1998-01-09 (p.m.)
#   - fixed some directories
#  -  changed -iB to -iBE so that if the script fails and is run again
#   it will not disturb things already in place.
#   - added a final dpkg --configure --pending.
#   - sanity check that we are in the right place added
# v0.4: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#-made it possible to place all packages in current dir.
#-added -pic packages to removal list.
#-make sure dpkg-dev does not get selected for removal.
#-moved dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mounted to the end.  
#v0.5: 1998-01-10 (Igor Grobman)
#-added a note about upgrading libraries 
#
#
# TODO: (probably by somebody else.  this script is mostly good enough imo)
#   - error checking

echo This script will install the packages necessary to ensure a safe
echo upgrade to hamm.  You need to either have a local or remote mirror
echo mounted, or have the following packages available in the current
echo directory: ldso, libc5, libc6, timezones, locales,  
echo ncurses3.0, ncurses3.4, libreadline2, libreadlineg2, bash, libg++272,
echo dpkg, dpkg-dev, dpkg-ftp, dpkg-mountable, libgdbm1, libgdbmg1, perl-base,
echo and perl.  If you are using a mirror, press 'm'.  If you have the files
echo -n if you have the files in the current dir, press 'c': (m/c) 
read answer


case $answer
in
m)  #local mirror available

# first, build up a list of installed -dev packages so that we can
# remove them.  remove wg-15-locale too.
#
# this is necessary even on machines which aren't doing libc6
# development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest version without
# removal of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other -dev
# packages like libdb1-dev and libdl1-dev if they are installed.

DEVPACKAGES=$( dpkg --get-selections | 
grep -v dpkg-dev |
grep -v deinstall | 
cut -f1 |
grep -- -dev$\|-pic$\|-dbg$ )

dpkg --remove -B $DEVPACKAGES wg15-locale || exit 1

# now install the new versions of things.  Just the bare minimum to let
# the user safely run dselect for the rest of the upgrade.

# change this to prompt the user for the location of the debian archive.
cd /debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-$(dpkg --print-installation-architecture)

# sanity check that we are in the right place
[ -f base/libc6_* ] || exit 9

# libc
#
dpkg -iBE base/ldso_*.deb base/libc5_*.deb base/libc6_*.deb \
base/timezones_*.deb admin/locales_*.deb || exit 2

# libreadline, ncurses, and bash
#
dpkg -iBE libs/ncurses3.0_*.deb base/ncurses3.4_*.deb  || exit 3
dpkg -iBE oldlibs/libreadline2_*.deb  || exit 4
dpkg -iBE base/libreadlineg2_*.deb || exit 5

# paranoia says run ldconfig NOW. don't laugh, i've needed to do this on
# some libc5-libc6 upgrades. i know that the postinst scripts for the
# libs are supposed to do it but 
ldconfig
dpkg -iBE base/bash_*.deb || exit 6

# new dpkg
#
dpkg -iBE devel/libg++272_*.deb || exit 7
dpkg -iBE base/dpkg_*.deb  utils/dpkg-dev_*.deb

# perl
#
dpkg -iBE base/libgdbm1_*.deb devel/libgdbmg1_*.deb || exit 8
# paranoia says run ldconfig now.
ldconfig
dpkg -iBE base/perl-base_*.deb || exit 9
dpkg -iBE interpreters/perl_*.deb

# strictly speaking, dpkg-ftp and dpkg-mountable are not essential to
# upgrade right now but they're both very useful.
dpkg -iBE base/dpkg-ftp_*.deb admin/dpkg-mountable_*.deb


# paranoia says to run this at the end
dpkg --configure --pending

# paranoia says: run sync, so lets do it :-)
sync ; sync ; sync 
;;

c) #all packages in current dir

# first, build up a list of installed -dev packages so that we can
# remove them.  remove wg-15-locale too.
#
# this is necessary even on machines which aren't doing libc6
# development because libc5 can't be upgraded to latest version without
# removal of libc5-dev which also necessitates removal of other 

Re: libc5 to libc6 auto-upgrade script

1998-01-10 Thread Tim Sailer
Igor Grobman wrote:
 
 
 This version should be close to good enough.  The major change since the last 
 one that was posted is the ability to upgrade from files in the current dir 
 instead of a local mirror requirement. 

llug.sep.bnl.gov is a public nfs mount for debian. You can point the scripts
there if they are net connected too.

Tim

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upgrade to development kernel

1998-01-10 Thread G. Kapetanios

Hi,

Today for the first time I tried to compile a devwelopment kernel.
Using the kernel package everything went ok during compilation. I
installed the kernel at /boot as usual run lilo and did everything I
uisually do for a kernel upgrade. However when I rebooted 
and chose my new kenel it said something about kernel 2.1.78 as usual and
then rebooted immediately as it started loading the kernel. Anybody has
any ideas ???
 Thanks
 George 


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The Debian Gnu logo?

1998-01-10 Thread Michael \[badpixel/bad sector\]
Hi!

Is there a site, where I can get the Debian logo in different 
sizes/formats?


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Package Installation....

1998-01-10 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Hi!
I just downloaded StarOffice 3.1 from Caldera, and debianized the RPMs
with Alien. (Thanks for the help with my Alien problem, it works now!).
When I try to install it, it wants to install onto /opt/StarOffice-3.1.
But my root partition doesn't have enough space for 100mb's of
staroffice!! Any ideas or pointers to relevant documentation on how
I can get it to install onto my /usr partition like everything else?

I could just install the .rpms with RPM, because RPM seems to have an
option to set destination directory, but the rpm man page says I should
use Alien for .rpms unless you know exactly what your doing...
Could I break anything by using RPM to install it?

Thanks!
Timothy


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Re: Package Installation....

1998-01-10 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Timothy M. Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
I just downloaded StarOffice 3.1 from Caldera, and debianized the RPMs
with Alien. (Thanks for the help with my Alien problem, it works now!).
When I try to install it, it wants to install onto /opt/StarOffice-3.1.
But my root partition doesn't have enough space for 100mb's of
staroffice!! Any ideas or pointers to relevant documentation on how
I can get it to install onto my /usr partition like everything else?

Create a /usr/opt and make /opt a symlink to it (ln -s /usr/opt /opt)

Mike.
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Re: Package Installation....

1998-01-10 Thread David Stern
Hi Timothy,

Why not use the .deb with the staroffice tarballs in /tmp?

---
  Package: staroffice3
  Version: 3.1-4
  Maintainer: Martin Schulze
  Depends: libc5 (= 5.4.4-0)
  Filename: dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/editors/staroffice3_3.1-4
.deb
  Size: 22054
  Description: Star Office 3.1 installer Star Office 3.1 is a suite of 
office productivity applications containing the following [..snip..]

  The StarOffice 3.1 binaries can be found in ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linu
x/staroffice/ They need to be placed in /tmp or $TMP respectively.


Also, StarOffice 4.0 should be released by months end (that's when the 
current beta expires), and hopefully it will have English menus.  It's 
considerably faster than StarOffice 3.1(static), looks like Office97.  
If you like all those features, it's very impressive, installs very 
cleanly with it's own installation script, and you can specify the 
directory.

If you can't read German and want to try out the German StarOffice 4.0 
Linux Beta, I have a webpage which outlines the procedure for getting 
that going:
  http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kotsya/staroffice.html

Regarding space, the staroffice install lets you select individual 
components if you choose the custom install method.  I think the 
minimum required space is around 30MB.  As mentioned, a symlink from 
/opt to /usr/opt also works.

Have fun! :-)
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Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-01-10 Thread Davide G. M. Salvetti
 w == Work-Needing and Prospective Packages.

[...]

 WNPP 3.  Orphaned packages

[...]

 WNPP Helmut Geyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

[...]

 WNPP o lacheck (libc5)

[...]

I will take care of lacheck as the maintainer.

Thanks,

Davide G. M. Salvetti - IW5DZC [JN53fr]
Take a look at Debian GNU/Linux: http://www.debian.org/.
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Re: Question re:Debian and ppp...

1998-01-10 Thread lucier
** Reply to note from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 9 Jan 1998 21:57:44 -0500 (EST)
   
 hand, and see what happens when you get past the login.  Also, make sure
 /etc/resolv.conf is set up correctly.  You should see something like:
   
 Jan  9 20:19:53 cnhobbes pppd[320]: local  IP address 209.96.153.139
 Jan  9 20:19:53 cnhobbes pppd[320]: remote IP address 209.96.152.32
   
 after the connect.  Then you will have a route to the host and can do your
 networking.

Perhaps you can clear up something for me...does the resolv.conf file
get erased before an ISP connection and then rewritten once the dynamic IP
connection is made?  Thanks:-)




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debian ftp crashes redhat

1998-01-10 Thread Berni Ernst

Hi,

I have a strange problem which may have to do with ftp services.

A RedHat Linux box (2.0.30) acts as a gateway to the internet.
I has a built-in ISDN card (avm fritzcard) and is connected to
a virtual ethernet with Linux, BSD, SCO and Minix machines.
Via ip forwarding the rest of the ethernet can do ftp, http etc.

That of course basicly works. But:

my main workstation is a pentium with debian linux 1.3.1 (2.0.30).
When I do ftp to the internet via the gatway (redhat) the redhat
machines crashes totally. The last message is:

kernel panic: skpush: under: 001a4bf0:2 in swapper task - not syncing.

Now only a hard reset brings the redhat box back to live.
This happens not every time I use ftp via debian but very often.
And definetly it only happns from the debian box. Using FreeBSD,
SCO OpenServer, SCO Unixware or even Minix is OK over weeks and
months.

Any idea what can be the reason for my problem ?

Btw: network adaptors are WD8013 (redhat) and 3com509 (debian).

thx

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Compiling with libc5 under libc6 based system

1998-01-10 Thread Linux-Debian Team
I have upgraded my system to libc6 with not much troubles.
Now, it seems that some programs have to be compiled under 
libc5 anyway. Therefore altgcc and altdev-libc5 have been
loaded into the system.
Now i need some documentation about how to instruct 'make'
to use the alternative environment.
Is there any on line reference out there?
Thank you for your suggestions

Paolo Pumilia 


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[Q]Getting Error 111 when starting X srv

1998-01-10 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
Hello,
during debian installation I was prompted
to run XF86Setup, when configured my card and display
I hit the 'Done' button to start the server
but I was getting 
Xsomething something cannot connect to socket error (-111)

What can it be?  I had debian on my computer installed before
and X run just fine (I also configured it via XF86Config).

I remember seeing a message on this list regarding this 
problem but cannot find it now.



Thanks in advance for any help.

Vladislav


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FW: [Q]Getting Error 111 when starting X srv

1998-01-10 Thread Vladislav Papayan x285
This mail was returned somehow,
so I am resending it.




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From:  Vladislav Papayan  x285
Sent:  Saturday, January 10, 1998 4:00 PM
To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject:   [Q]Getting Error 111 when starting X srv

Hello,
during debian installation I was prompted
to run XF86Setup, when configured my card and display
I hit the 'Done' button to start the server
but I was getting 
Xsomething something cannot connect to socket error (-111)

What can it be?  I had debian on my computer installed before
and X run just fine (I also configured it via XF86Config).

I remember seeing a message on this list regarding this 
problem but cannot find it now.



Thanks in advance for any help.

Vladislav



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Re: Compiling with libc5 under libc6 based system

1998-01-10 Thread Ben Gertzfield
 Linux-Debian == Linux-Debian Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Linux-Debian I have upgraded my system to libc6 with not much
Linux-Debian troubles.  Now, it seems that some programs have to
Linux-Debian be compiled under libc5 anyway. Therefore altgcc and
Linux-Debian altdev-libc5 have been loaded into the system.  Now
Linux-Debian i need some documentation about how to instruct
Linux-Debian 'make' to use the alternative environment.  Is there
Linux-Debian any on line reference out there?  Thank you for your
Linux-Debian suggestions

It's actually quite simple. All you need to do is set your PATH to
have /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/bin at the beginning, and then make, gcc,
et all will use the -altdev packages.

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Re: [Q]Getting Error 111 when starting X srv

1998-01-10 Thread Ben Gertzfield
 Vladislav == Vladislav Papayan x285 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Vladislav Hello, during debian installation I was prompted to run
Vladislav XF86Setup, when configured my card and display I hit
Vladislav the 'Done' button to start the server but I was getting
Vladislav Xsomething something cannot connect to socket error
Vladislav (-111)

Do you have the xfntbase and xfnt75 packages installed and configured?

Make sure there's nothing showing up in any of the system logs
(/var/log/*)..

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HELP! Netscape under hamm??

1998-01-10 Thread William R Ward
Whenever I try to run Netscape, v3 or v4, under my HAMM system I get
'Segmentation Fault'... I suspect it's because it was compiled for
libc5 and I'm using libc6.  Any way I can get it to work

--Bill.

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ICQ for Java

1998-01-10 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Has anyone got ICQ for Java to work?
Mine goes fine until it has to contact the ICQ server for creating a new
account, whereupon it gives a warning message and then gets stuck in
some kind of a loop between the warning message and the last page of
info to fill out. It also screws up when I try to register an existing
account; it says error contacting the server, but that message comes up
so quickly that I don't think it actually tries.

Timothy


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Re: Graphics Board URGENT

1998-01-10 Thread Wojtek Zabolotny


On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Nico De Ranter wrote:

 
 Howdy,
 
 quick question:
 
   my supplier offers me the following boards:
 
   S3 TRIO PCI
   S3 VIRGE PCI
   Mystique
   Millenium 2MB
   Millenium 4MB
 
   no further information is given.  If I don't care about
   graphic performance and possibilities what should be the
   safest bet for Linux?
 

I'm using two different S3 TRIO PCI cards in my two Linux boxes without 
any problems.

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RE: Upgrade to libc6...

1998-01-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, John Marter wrote:

: 
:   :On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Michael [badpixel/bad sector] wrote:
:   :
:   :: Hi!
:   :: 
:   ::   Just wondering how to uprade to libc6? Do I just install
: the libc6 package,
:   ::   or do I have to reinstall my hole system? ...
:   ::  
:   ::  http://www.debian.org/devel/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO.html
:   :: 
:   :: Ok ... but I just have a little problem (i think!) :)
:   :: 
:   :: the libc6 package conflicts with libc5,and when i tries to
: remove 
:   :: libc5 a lot of programs depends on that...
:   ::  
:   :
:   :Read the last paragraph of Scott Ellis's FAQ (section 4.6).
: The URL is
:   :cleverly hidden in this email message.
:   :
:   :
:   I read that and I was wondering what exactly the conflicts are.
: It
:   mentions 'locales' and the 'format of utmp/wtmp'.  What kinds of
:   problems are caused by these conflicts?
: 
:   VAResearch had me upgrade to libc6 and override the conflict
:   so that I could add another package I needed.  After two days, 
:   I haven't noticed any problems (other than I now have both 
:   libc5 and libc6 in memory, I presume, when I am running X.)
: 
:   I have grabbed the libc5_5.4.33-3.deb package that the
:   FAQ suggests as an alternative, but I haven't installed
:   it yet.  Is there anything I should look for?
: 
:   Thanks,
:   John Marter  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 

I did this once, when the new Apache-SSL package came out and I wanted
to play with it.  It needed libc6, so I just installed that.  A few days
later I noticed that the system was (surprise) unstable ... Apache-SSL
segfaulted on a regular basis, and the whole system was generally weird.
So I nuked the whole thing and started over.  Following Scott's howto
worked flawlessly and the system's been solid as can be.

I would have to say that upgrading to libc6 in a non-standard manner
is playing with fire.

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