Re: [slim] How many controllers can there be?
Kuben72 wrote: 20 or 100.It doesn't really matter. It is has to be a big house before you need that many :) And then you'd need multiple access points, so that would divide the bandwidth. Also I doubt that a non-active SBC uses a lot of bandwidth. Unless you're running a hotel or something. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My Duet (Receiver) is *ALWAYS ON*!!!!
egd wrote: iPhone;290723 Wrote: Have you used your PC to turn it off? If I turn it off from inside SC from my iPhone or a web interface, the LED on the front is off. That may work, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be forced into that as a solution - if you're running headless or on a NAS it'd be a major PITA. Sounds like a bug to me. You could try the Powersave plugin. The name's not entirely correct, but it might do the trick. IMHO it's too much off a hassle to turn the SBR/SB3 off via the SBC menu. Now I just press pause and Powersave does the rest. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sound quality difference CD player vs SB3 FLAC playback?
If either of you guys have a Receiver it's be interesting to know if you experience the same perceived difference in sound quality. As we are talking about MP3/Lossless comparisons, I have the file mentioned in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32576, and would be quite happy to upload it to some free web space if someone wanted to give it a go (and could suggest where I might upload it to!). This assumes that the originator of the file is OK about (I need to ask him first as I have a feeling he might be a solicitor). MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44394 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Update firware: nb alloc failed in slimproto
Hi! I have fixed the problem now: -I had the SB3 on a switch, I changed that for a router, and did the update with no problem! Must be a adress-sharing problem(?) because of the switch? Arne K -- Cobra2 Cobra2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14019 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45604 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Password protection in SC7 and Controller
I'm aware of the fact that password in SC7 and Controller won't work. So when will this be fixed and what priority has it. I'm expecting my duet in about a week or two. Yes i know that that the password protection in SC7 is not much of security, but its better than nothing. My real security is that my music server is only that (no sensitive private data lying around), and I have backups . Interesting facts: Softsqueeze, winamp foobar honors the password. Squeezeslave just cut trough ? is it so good at emulating a hardware player that SC7 won't know the difference ? this is a potential security hole. rgds Mikael -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
I have had my duet now for a 12 days and most of the time it does work fine. However, at other times it is very difficult to get the SB to connect properly to my networked PC, and at other times (rarer) I get drop out of signal for several seconds. While playing, the music stops and the starts again say 10 seconds later. I'm not sure whether it is resuming where it left off or restarting the track. It has been suggested that my problems are due to weakness of wireless signal at the SB. I have been monitoring this (only when connected obviously!) and find that it can very between 2% and 49% without any apparent changes introduced by myself. This can occur over periods of minutes. I have tried channels 1, 6 and 11 and they all seem to be similarly variable. Someone has suggested I try a couple of boxes which can be plugged into a local mains socket and then connected with an ethernet cable to the router at one end and the SB at the other. Can anyone tell me whether this should work adequately for music streaming and also whether it does so in practice? What makes and models might be recommended? My router is a Linksys WRT54GL and my PC runs XP with a SiS 900-based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter card. My music is coming from iTunes. Any ideas welcomed. -- copernical copernical's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] best stand-alone seakers to connect a SB3 to?
EnochLight;290534 Wrote: With the stands this setup just looks *AWESOME* - and push at least 75-100 watts per channel and these fly.A little overkill for a study, not so? -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys can be taught to cut code, and world peace is utterly unrealistic... egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46115 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
mvalera;266460 Wrote: No, it will continue to ship with the backlit IR remote.When did the Transporter start shipping with a backlit remote? I purchased my Transporter back in the Slimdevices days and whilst my remote looks like that you've on display on your website it definitely isn't backlit. Before I order additional remotes, can you confirm what is meant by backlit - I'm looking for something I can use to control my SB3s and Transporter when I'm in bed and/ or a darkened room, without having to rely on finger memory as to what button it is I'm hoping to press. -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys can be taught to cut code, and world peace is utterly unrealistic... egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
I changed my PC to a new Apple last year and foundthat I experienced the same peoblem you mention. If I monitored the wireless signal, it stayed above 75% all the time, yet I still experienced hanging or drop out. The problem was exasperated if running more than 1 squeezebox at a time even though 1 is connected via ethernet! (strange). I decided to go down the Homeplug route to try to eliminate this. I bought 2 x 85mb from Maplins @ £39.99 each and can report that since then no drop out whatsoever. Its been great. I would also like to mention I upgraded to SC7 with no problems and am happily using IPeng on my I Pod touch which is amazing. Iain. -Original Message- From: copernical [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:59 Subject: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters? I have had my duet now for a 12 days and most of the time it does work fine. However, at other times it is very difficult to get the SB to connect properly to my networked PC, and at other times (rarer) I get drop out of signal for several seconds. While playing, the music stops and the starts again say 10 seconds later. I'm not sure whether it is resuming where it left off or restarting the track. It has been suggested that my problems are due to weakness of wireless signal at the SB. I have been monitoring this (only when connected obviously!) and find that it can very between 2% and 49% without any apparent changes introduced by myself. This can occur over periods of minutes. I have tried channels 1, 6 and 11 and they all seem to be similarly variable. Someone has suggested I try a couple of boxes which can be plugged into a local mains socket and then connected with an ethernet cable to the router at one end and the SB at the other. Can anyone tell me whether this should work adequately for music streaming and also whether it does so in practice? What makes and models might be recommended? My router is a Linksys WRT54GL and my PC runs XP with a SiS 900-based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter card. My music is coming from iTunes. Any ideas welcomed. -- copernical copernical's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sound quality difference CD player vs SB3 FLAC playback?
I have my SB going direct to my Denon AVP5000 pre-amp via Wireworld Super Nova 5+ toslink cable. The cable is a high end (polished ends) fiber optic cable, this sounds best to me. Better than the digital coax out of the SB to my pcs' (XiFi Elite Pro) sound card. I have what's considered gourmet ears so I hear the differences in just about every cable made.I sometimes listen to DIFM Chillout when I get home from work at five a.m. so I wear headphones thru the digital coax from pc, as always this way is a little tight, quick transients, shrill highs, all instruments are very close together. It sounds good at first but I get ear fatigue fast. The Super Nova 5+ direct to the pre-amp then out the POA5000 via Transparent Audio Music Plus inter connects, then out to speakers using Wireworld Equinox speaker cables to Sony SS-LA500EDs and the sub thru Wireworld sub cable to Energy 12 250 watt powered subwoofer. The SB thru this method sounds much better and since I added the Wireworld Super Nova 5+ cable the instruments in the soundstage have a more wide open spatialness with what sounds like a more realistic placement of where each instrument actually was in the recording, especially true with orchestra recordings. I'm saving for the tube modded transporter as this is being written. I'll probably change out my inter connects to a wireworld product soon as well -- Limitless Limitless's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44394 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
Powerline ethernet is generally more reliable than wirless as it is less suseptable to outside interference. Actual performance however can vary a lot depending on the configuration of your mains layout. Having said this though, even poorly performing powerline ethernet should be able to handle the low bandwidth needs of streaming audio. Something else to try is moving your WRT54GL to a different location. even moving it from the floor to about the same height as the SB (assuming they are on the same floor etc.) can have a difference. It's worth playing around with that and experimenting, it doesn't cost anything for that :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Special Characters like #345; and �
I have found out that when I do not use the iTunes integration, everything works perfectly! So obviously there is a problem with reading special characters in the music library.xml file... -- Chris_Zug Chris_Zug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
Thanks for this funkstar. Maybe I should try putting the router on the floor. The SB is on the floor below but not in the room below. The signal has to go through one floor and two walls. I'll give it a go. funkstar;290876 Wrote: Powerline ethernet is generally more reliable than wirless as it is less suseptable to outside interference. Actual performance however can vary a lot depending on the configuration of your mains layout. Having said this though, even poorly performing powerline ethernet should be able to handle the low bandwidth needs of streaming audio. Something else to try is moving your WRT54GL to a different location. even moving it from the floor to about the same height as the SB (assuming they are on the same floor etc.) can have a difference. It's worth playing around with that and experimenting, it doesn't cost anything for that :) -- copernical copernical's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
Thanks for this Iain. Good to know someone has tried it successfully. [EMAIL PROTECTED];290865 Wrote: I changed my PC to a new Apple last year and foundthat I experienced the same peoblem you mention. If I monitored the wireless signal, it stayed above 75% all the time, yet I still experienced hanging or drop out. The problem was exasperated if running more than 1 squeezebox at a time even though 1 is connected via ethernet! (strange). Â*I decided to go down the Homeplug route to try to eliminate this. I bought 2 x 85mb from Maplins @ £39.99 each and can report that since then no drop out whatsoever. Its been great.Â* I would also like to mention I upgraded to SC7 with no problems and am happily using IPeng on my I Pod touch which is amazing.Â* Iain. -- copernical copernical's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Special Characters like #345; and �
7.01 scanner could not handle for example å ä ö but that was fixed lately. it could not handle Björk for example. not in folders or files. Afaik everything 18530 don't have this problem. I suggest that you start a new bug considering Special characters * and Itunes integration. *what would be the proper name ? extended latin alphabet ? -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Duet Software update
I'm experiencing strange behaviour with the controller. From time to time (from twice a day to every two day), at boot time, the controller show the Software Update screen demanding me to Begin update saying Updated software is available for this remote. (It may take a few minutes to update to version 7.0.1 r2223). I've seen in the forums that there is a problem with the advanced setting menu check for update, but I never use this function. I'm running SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0.1 - TRUNK updated from svn less than a week ago. What's wrong with my controller? Is it loosing last updated firmware when it runs out of battery? I really don't understand... -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Alternative to jRiver Media Center?
Thanks guys. I've downloaded and installed MediaMonkey. Seems fine. Perceptibly faster, features are about the same - for what I need - may not be for others, but I didn't need all the TV, photo, etc. stuff that MediaCenter layered on. BTW: MediaMonkey recognizes my devices reliably and in a third of the time that MC does. Thanks for the tips. -- utowana utowana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4204 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46194 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
The SB is on the floor below but not in the room below. The signal has to go through one floor and two walls. I'll give it a go. The signal from a router with normal straight antenna is doughnut shaped with a hole in the middle - so no signal directly above and below the router and a weak signal close to router if not on the same level. So if SB3 is not on the same floor as the router - try to get SB3 away from router horizontally and closer vertically to from the router. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Currently have SS 3.5.1
Thanks iPhone. Shall stay put for now. -- Grumps Grumps's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6384 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46225 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different to the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing the other, and more important problem: usability. Please, please, please can the issue of which tags, which version of tags etc but put aside for one thread. Can you please consider the users' perspective we don't care if the tag is Band, AlbumArtist or what ever. That is the angels on a pinhead issue. You are missing the mote in your eye: The fact remains that stated way of working: -if the album is natural compilation multiple authors and there is album artist it is listed under album artist. Irrespective of whether this is Band tag, ALBUMARTIST it doesn't matter, because this functionality is still broken! Such an Album is still found under: Home-Artists-Various Artists (albeit listed as by the album artist). And it is not listed under Home-Artists-album artist. Where it is wanted. For example: My Favourite Band, creates an album called Debut, all tracks are by My Favourite Band, the album by My Favourite Band, but the last track they are joined by Guest Artist Currently album Debut is listed as being by My Favourite Band. But because of the last track this album is found under Home-Artists-Various Artists - it's listed as Debut by My Favourite Band - but it's in the wrong place. If I navigate to Home-Artists-My Favourite Band album Debut is not there. This is the real problem, not the internal representation of the band's name. -- bullgod bullgod's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9916 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Throw out all your Monster stuff
Monster Cable Sues Blue Jeans Cable. Monster Cable has issued a Cease-and-Desist order to Blue Jeans Cable (Tartan Cable) over analogue cable connectors. This is another example of the great evil empire trying to roll over small companies. I have bought many of my cables from BJC. Fantastic guys, Fantastic Service, Worldwide delivery in less than a week. Generally, I get my stuff to Norway in 5 days!!! I'm following up and throwing out all my Monster stuff, anybody else? Ref: http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43065 Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop / SC7 - SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Krell KAV400xi - Meadowlark Kestrel2 / Duntech PCL-15 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
My understanding from talking to Logitech support whilst attempting to get a replacement backlit remote for my Transporter was that US Transporters came with a backlit one whilst International ones came with the standard remote. I bought mine directly from SlimDevices in the States. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller Performance Problem
I am now on Duet system 3 (the first 2 had hardware problems so were returned) and am still seeing the same lag issue when viewing tracks for an album. As previously described whenever I select an album (using the controller) that I havent previously looked at, it takes a minimum of 10 seconds before the track listing is displayed. When I go back to the same album, it takes about 1 second. This suggests that there is still something not quite right with the caching logic/performance. I have just installed SC on a new PC (Dual core/2GB RAM with wired connection to the router/NAS) and am running the latest versions of all relevant software/firmware: SBC firmware version: 7.0.1 r2223 SqueezeCenter version: 7.0.1 - 18702 Vista SBR firmware ver: 23 -- EliteAV EliteAV's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45121 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Laptop to SB3 via cable?
Is it possible to connect my laptop directly via a cable (a 10/100 i belive its called) to a squeezebox 3?, ie without a router. Did try it but the SB would not play... Thanks -- karlinamillion karlinamillion's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13106 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Laptop to SB3 via cable?
Yes, in that case i would use a crossover Ethernet cable and assign fixed ip's to both SB3 and the laptop, as there is no DHCP present. If SC is installed and working AND all firewall problems are solved, your good to go :) -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Laptop to SB3 via cable?
Ahhh!, A crossover cable!. Thats prob where its all going wrong! Cheers I shall have a go see if it sparks up -- karlinamillion karlinamillion's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13106 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Connection Reset by local host
Hi, Just installed Squeezecenter on new machine runing win 2k3 x64. All looks OK until I try to play anything. Player will play for a few seconds and then stops and says Connection reset by local host. The log files shows... [08-04-13 15:01:41.7076] Slim::Player::Source::errorOpening (1609) Error: While opening current track, so mark it as already played! [08-04-13 15:01:41.7081] Slim::Player::Source::errorOpening (1609) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Player/Source.pm line 1609) frame 1: Slim::Player::Source::errorOpening (/C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Player/Squeezebox2.pm line 605) frame 2: Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::failedDirectStream (/C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Slimproto.pm line 561) frame 3: Slim::Networking::Slimproto::_disco_handler (/C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Slimproto.pm line 381) frame 4: Slim::Networking::Slimproto::client_readable (/C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Select.pm line 243) frame 5: (eval) (/C:\Program Files (x86)\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Select.pm line 243) frame 6: Slim::Networking::Select::select (slimserver.pl line 503) frame 7: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 43) frame 8: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 851) frame 9: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0) frame 10: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0) Any ideas?? -- davidmoore2607 davidmoore2607's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] how to sort playlists with leading punctuation?
In iTunes (Mac) my playlists are named according to the style of music. Classical playlists are preceded by a period (.), jazz playlists are preceded by a tilda (~), and rock and pop by nothing. iTunes sorts them separately so I can separately browse through my music by style. But when I view my playlists in SqueezeCenter of the Duet controller, the leading periods are ignored and playlists are sorted by the first alphabetic character so all the styles are lumped together. Is there a setting to make SB sort this correctly, not ignore leading non-alphabetic characters? Or is there another solution short of renaming my playlists with leading alphabetic codes which I don't find as appealing? Thanks -- V-DiV V-DiV's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16098 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46250 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Throw out all your Monster stuff
Why would you even have any overpriced Monster stuff after being a BJC customer? -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different to the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing the other, and more important problem: usability. I'm sorry, but I disagree. I believe developers are very conscious of usability, and do a good job of catering for all people. I don't believe there is a big problem with usability. Whilst I sympathise with you about your problem (I'll try to help), it is a different problem to the one discussed in this thread. Please, please, please can the issue of which tags, which version of tags etc but put aside for one thread. I'm afraid not - it's kind of fundamental. Whilst a user may not want to care about tags, if music doesn't have tags, they can't really hope for songs to appear in the library 100% how they expect. If some tags are set (automatically when you rip them), music may appear reasonably well in a library, but may need some tailoring to be perfect for how *you* want them to appear. This is likely to be the case for your problem. It's likely that you Can you please consider the users' perspective we don't care if the tag is Band, AlbumArtist or what ever. From a users' perspective, you must appreciate that you need to set something in your tags for it to look correct in your library. If you don't then you shouldn't care if it doesn't work 100% how you want it. The fact remains that stated way of working: -if the album is natural compilation multiple authors and there is album artist it is listed under album artist. I don't quite understand what you mean in that sentence. The album is deemed to be a compilation album if not all of the artists on all songs are the same, and thus will appear as album artist=Various Artists. Irrespective of whether this is Band tag, ALBUMARTIST it doesn't matter, because this functionality is still broken! Don't understand what you mean. Such an Album is still found under: Home-Artists-Various Artists (albeit listed as by the album artist). If you are looking in Home Artists Various Artists, all albums listed in there are by album artist = Various Artists. You won't see any album artists within Various Artists. And it is not listed under Home-Artists-album artist. Where it is wanted. Then fix your tags! No other music library software that I have used will interpret this correctly either. In fact, most other software wouldn't let you have multiple artists. You must have tagged that song specifically to have two performing artists, so you must already know something about tagging. If you'd not set the guest artist, the album would have been detected with album artist = My Favourite Band. Actually, I suspect that you haven't actually defined two artists on the song, but one artist called something like My Favourite Band and Guest Artist. For example: My Favourite Band, creates an album called Debut, all tracks are by My Favourite Band, the album by My Favourite Band, but the last track they are joined by Guest Artist That last track makes the software think that the album is a compilation album, because the last song isn't by the same artists as all of the other songs. That is why you need to set an albumartist tag. The scanner doesn't second-guess how you want that album to appear. This is the real problem, not the internal representation of the band's name. This is your problem, caused by the information in your song tags. Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Throw out all your Monster stuff
Pale Blue Ego;290929 Wrote: Why would you even have any overpriced Monster stuff after being a BJC customer? I didn't know better at that time... Never bought any Monster after I discovered BJC There are some people out there now who will have some campfires where they burn all their Monster cables and broadcast it on YouTube, sounds like a good idea to me... -- haraldo Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop / SC7 - SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Krell KAV400xi - Meadowlark Kestrel2 / Duntech PCL-15 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
I use the higher end Netgear powerline adapters (the '200 MB' ones that can do HD video speeds). I have my Duet Receiver connected to one, works perfectly. I agree with the other comment that you shouldn't need the high end ones I'm using for the SB (I already had them from another experiment). The slower speed ones should be fine. The only realy rub is that you can't really use them across major electrical breaks. If the circuits are on the same main, you will probably be OK. I would buy locally and test them first though, that way you could return them if needed. Jason -- JasonJoel JasonJoel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
bpa;290895 Wrote: The signal from a router with normal straight antenna is doughnut shaped with a hole in the middle - so no signal directly above and below the router and a weak signal close to router if not on the same level. So if SB3 is not on the same floor as the router - try to get SB3 away from router horizontally and closer vertically to from the router. Yup, or change the orientation of one or both of the router's antennas. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does SC need a separate, simplified, stylised user interface?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46157 Question: Does SC need a separate, simplified, stylised UI? - Yes, and making it 3D would give it a real competitive edge - Yes, but it doesn't have to be that flashy. 2D would be fine. - No, the existing interfaces are enough - It might be nice but I would never use it My answer would be yes to a simple 3D interface. I looked at the sooloos and they look cool. Essentially I have the same set up today using a laptop with a wireless connection (although its not touch screen) but your limited to use the web interface. This is not bad but for someone that has never seen it before its a little too much. I think an easy to use java applett would do the trick...similar to softsqueeze. I think the biggest use case would be a simple interface that a casual user could use to browse the artwork and add music to a playlist. If the 3D looked and worked like iTunes then user adoption would be fantastic. -- theStimmer theStimmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7136 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46157 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Freecom MyPal Slimserver
Hi, does nobody own a MyPal or can nobody tell me the difference between a internet radio stream and the stream generated by Slimserver? Any hints are really welcome! -slutz -- slutz slutz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46167 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Throw out all your Monster stuff
Amen! I am a longtime fan of BJC... great products, great value, and great customer service. If you read the A'holics thread you'll find out the owner of BJC is a retired attorney, and former BIG-TIME litigator, so I'm hoping Monster has bitten off more than they can chew with their latest bullying tactics! -- sleepysurf main system: sb2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac-1 modwright swl 9.0se belles 350a reference ml summits. blue jeans cables. secondary sb3 systems in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speakers) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers). sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Throw out all your Monster stuff
sleepysurf;290948 Wrote: Amen! I am a longtime fan of BJC... great products, great value, and great customer service. If you read the A'holics thread you'll find out the owner of BJC is a retired attorney, and former BIG-TIME litigator, so I'm hoping Monster has bitten off more than they can chew with their latest bullying tactics! They're not Monster Cable anymore, they changed their name to Bully Cable -- haraldo Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop / SC7 - SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Krell KAV400xi - Meadowlark Kestrel2 / Duntech PCL-15 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46246 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
I bought my TP in UK, and it definitely has a backlit remote. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
If you're running a beta version (like 7.0.1) you can expect the Jive software to get updated pretty frequently. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
The back lighting on the remote is subtle. I had to take mine into a completely darkened room in order to see the back lighting in action. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
Thanks for the information... I'll double check next time, but I'm pretty certain software update demands happen even when I haven't updated SC via svn. (I've seen a firmware in one of my checkouts, but I may have been forced to update controller maybe ten times, while I barely did three svn updates :-/ ) Is it worth filling a bug report if I continue experiencing this problem without svn updating? -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
If you have Settings-Advanced-Software Updates = Automatically Check for Software Updates, then SqueezeCenter will download the latest jive update binary at least every time the server restarts, and likely daily. If you have that setting set to Don't Check.. ..then you shouldn't be prompted to do the updates. I wouldn't think that running the battery flat would prompt an update either. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Changing SB Receiver from wireless to ethernet
I had my Squeezebox Receiver set up via wireless while I was doing various experiments. I now want to deploy it in its final position, and connect it by ethernet. I naively assumed that all I needed to do was plug in an ethernet cable, hold the front button to reset it, and when going through the setup procedure it would ask whether I wanted to go wireless or ethernet. But no: it just re-connected to the wireless network without asking me. So then I tried power-cycling the Receiver. Interestingly, the ethernet port doesn't show any lights, and the switch that it's plugged into doesn't register any connection. I have tried a different ethernet cable in case the cable was faulty (one I know works, because it's usually used for a PC), but that was the same. I vaguely remember something about a Forget This Player option somewhere, and thought perhaps that's what is needed. But I cannot find it anywhere in SC7.0 or on the Controller's menus. Any ideas? -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different to the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing the other, and more important problem: usability. I'm sorry, but I disagree. I believe developers are very conscious of usability, and do a good job of catering for all people. I don't believe there is a big problem with usability. Whilst I sympathise with you about your problem (I'll try to help), it is a different problem to the one discussed in this thread. ... Hi Philip. It does indeed look like this thread is becoming too broad to be effective, and that there are a lot of various issues with tagging that concern a customer. I'm deliberately not going to use a term 'average', 'typical' 'advanced' e.t.c., just a customer - person who doesn't need to concern themselves with the internal workings of SC. However, I'm assuming here that anybody with complex tagging needs would be willing to separate tagging as a step in 'music obtaining process', use dedicated tagging program and do some custom tagging. While I'm sure that developers do their best to make very usable code, they will do it within the bounds of their musical interests, experiences and musical collections, probably do the testing the same way and slowly drift off. Surely, there are people in SC's customer base who's needs (or wants) are more complex than what the developers could imagine. So, how about creating some form of case study - a separate thread (best in 'ripping/tagging' forum) that would discuss various tagging scenarios and provide solution(s) to the best approach? Ideally, make it a sticky and set up some rules how to present a scenario and how to suggest a solution. Maybe make somebody powerful enough to go in there from time to time and swipe the noise. If we find some scenario that doesnt' have good solution, then raise a ticket or enhancement request. I wouldn't mind making serious contribution there as I have a library of a couple of thousands meticulously tagged classical tracks and there I have encountered most of the real world scenarios one is likely to hit. Now, back to the internals of the code. There are two things that are purely developers prospective/error (IMO) here that I could see going through the code: - scanner. Last time I mentioned that its functionality to recognize changed tracks isn't good enough - does it solely based on file update date vs last scan date. I suggested doing it also based on size, archive attribute or checksum. Well, going through the code, surprise, surprise - there's a comment there that states: # When rescanning: we need to find files: # # * That are new - not in the db # * That have changed - are in the db, but timestamp or size is different. A code following it handles timestamp but not size. So they even knew that there was a problem but for some reason choose not to solve it. - concept and handling of 'track artist' contributor type. Basically, if there is ALBUMARTIST defined for the album, then all ARTISTs become trackartists. There is no connection between the guy who is ARTIST on one and trackartist on another album. It is not possible to flow (or drill down) in SB menu system from trackartist to artist. Now, that might be how the code works, but from real world prospective makes little sense. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
So do BOTH the receiver and the handset get updated automatically? -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
- scanner. Last time I mentioned that its functionality to recognize changed tracks isn't good enough - does it solely based on file update date vs last scan date. Is that not good enough? If tags or actual song data change, most tools that write the content back will cause the last changed timestamp to be updated. - concept and handling of 'track artist' contributor type. Basically, if there is ALBUMARTIST defined for the album, then all ARTISTs become trackartists. There is no connection between the guy who is ARTIST on one and trackartist on another album. It is not possible to flow (or drill down) in SB menu system from trackartist to artist. Now, that might be how the code works, but from real world prospective makes little sense. I always thought that the track artist contributor type was a little strange, or at least that artists performing on a song when there is no album artist should also be called track artists. Not sure why there is a distinction, but I'm guessing it is to do with whether a user wants to show all track artists in the browse by artist list, or to only show album artists. Phil ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
gharris999;290969 Wrote: I would say, yes, if you have the auto update setting set to don't and if the SBC update prompts happen more then once between SC svn updates. That sounds like a bug to me. I saw no auto update setting in the controller, but I have: SqueezeCenter-Settings-Advanced-Software Updates set to Automatically check for software updates According to the popup help, it only displays message when a new version is available... is this what you were talking about? Anyway, I'm looking closer as this problem and report it as soon as it happens again. -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
Still my Controller won't setup. I upgraded to 7.0.1 r2178, disabled power management, upgraded to r2223, did a factory reset, but still my controller doesn't connect to my computer. The receiver works fine (through my computer), but I can't use the controller. The controller finds my wireless network, it finds the receiver, it connects to my network (The Squeezebox is connected to your network), then I choose my computer as the Music Source to get the message Problem Connecting; couldn't connect your Squeezebox to your wireless network... which doen't make sense to me, since it first did connect to the network. When I choose the option Skip this step, I return to the Set Up Sqeenzebox. So I cannot use the Controller and don't see any other option then returning the Controller. Do you? -- Armand Armand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16749 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing SB Receiver from wireless to ethernet
I'm pretty sure that Forget this player doesn't exist in SC7, though I forget the reason. Is this a purchased SBR or one from the beta program? There was a batch of beta SBRs that had bad ethernet jacks, and the lack of lights at the SBR ethernet port and the router would be consistent with that. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 SPDIF question
Hi to all! I'm happy SB3 owner and i wanna make step higher to better sound. In that manner i wanna connect it through SPDIF out to external 24bit/96Khz capable dac. I know that SB3's internal dac not supporting such hi-resolution format, but what about SB3's SPDIF out? Can i play such files (like LINN Records studio master FLAC) uncorrupted through SB3's SPDIF out or I will get resampled signal to lower resolution? If its SPDIF out don't support such high resolution, how high can it go? Thanx! -- sd_user sd_user's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing SB Receiver from wireless to ethernet
aubuti;290985 Wrote: I'm pretty sure that Forget this player doesn't exist in SC7, though I forget the reason. It definitely existed in earlier releases of SC7.0, because I've just found an old thread where I posted that I had used it! But it seems to have disappeared now - or at least I can't find it. aubuti;290985 Wrote: Is this a purchased SBR or one from the beta program? There was a batch of beta SBRs that had bad ethernet jacks, and the lack of lights at the SBR ethernet port and the router would be consistent with that. It's from the beta program, but I have definitely had it running on ethernet in the past. I suppose it's possible that in the meantime the ethernet port has died, but that seems unlikely. Is there an official sequence of events to follow to change from wireless to ethernet? If so, please can someone describe it so that I can follow exactly the right steps. (I'm hoping it doesn't involve a factory reset of the Controller: it takes me quite a long time to reset everything after doing one of those). (If it's relevant, the Receiver is running firmware 22, the Controller is running r2097, and SqueezeCenter is Version: 7.0 - 17793 - Windows 2000 - EN - cp1252). -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 SPDIF question
It's not the dac it's the other stuff thats not up to it. so 24/48 it is. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
HectorHughMunro;290975 Wrote: So do BOTH the receiver and the handset get updated automatically? To answer my own question (should have RTBM! It's in the appendix on page 30), yes the receiver does auto update. The button flashes white to let you know it's doing it. -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 SPDIF question
this is one of the only gripes i have with the duet, why o why did'nt they make the spdif 24/96 ? I did order one and will be a proud owner anyway, but why ? I know there's a very marginal market for this, but the cost would not be that high would it ? no highfidelity dac's and other parts , thats the transporter i know that :-) only a 24/96 enabled spdif ? Good evening -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeCenter Unable to Write To: when startup
When I start up SqueezeCenter on my Windows Vista PC, I get a Unable to Write To: error message. It does not say what it is unable to write to. Can someone advise how I can debug the problem? My SqueezeCenter had worked fine until last week after I upgraded my 2007 Norton 360 to 2008 Norton 360 Premier Edition. At first, SqueezeCenter couldn't start because it couldn't find a file. So I re-installed SqueezeCenter. Now, it is giving me the Unable to Write To: error message when I first start up the software. Everything seems to work fine except PowerSwitch II plugin. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. -- vett93 vett93's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13301 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46258 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing SB Receiver from wireless to ethernet
Press and hold the button on the Receiver until its light is flashing red, then choose it in Choose Player and you should be walked through setup again. -- dean dean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suitability of Network Powerline Adapters?
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=219368C=MaplinU=SearchTopT=powerlinedoy=13m4 Just a quick heads up but maplin are doing a four port version of the homeplugs for £19.99. It's been confirmed that they work in pairs and can connect up to four pieces of equipment so works out cheaper. Not sure how long the offers on for so best to get in quick. Bear in mind you need two of these to make a network -- davidcotton davidcotton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46241 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: The discussion of tags and their interpretation is entirely different to the main problem, there are too many developers here who are missing the other, and more important problem: usability. I'm sorry, but I disagree. I believe developers are very conscious of usability, and do a good job of catering for all people. I don't believe there is a big problem with usability. Whilst I sympathise with you about your problem (I'll try to help), it is a different problem to the one discussed in this thread. Perhaps, but is this thread not the continuation of a thread that I began? Do you want me to start an other thread? As each time I do it get hijacked by discussion of internal representation. Look I believe there is a major problem of usability. It has nothing to do with the internal representation of the band or album artist, and every time I try to bring it up, the discussion misses the point, and goes off on the matter of tags. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: Please, please, please can the issue of which tags, which version of tags etc but put aside for one thread. I'm afraid not - it's kind of fundamental. Whilst a user may not want to care about tags, if music doesn't have tags, they can't really hope for songs to appear in the library 100% how they expect. If some tags are set (automatically when you rip them), music may appear reasonably well in a library, but may need some tailoring to be perfect for how *you* want them to appear. This is likely to be the case for your problem. OK. I will try to clarify, again. If it turns about to be a problem with my tags I will accept that. However I strongly, not very strongly believe that tags are not the problem. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: Can you please consider the users' perspective we don't care if the tag is Band, AlbumArtist or what ever. From a users' perspective, you must appreciate that you need to set something in your tags for it to look correct in your library. If you don't then you shouldn't care if it doesn't work 100% how you want it. Yes, tags should be correct. Garbage in, Garbage out. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: The fact remains that stated way of working: -if the album is natural compilation multiple authors and there is album artist it is listed under album artist. I don't quite understand what you mean in that sentence. I was paraphrasing a previous post where it was stated that: if not all of the artists on all songs are the same, and thus will appear as album artist. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: The album is deemed to be a compilation album if not all of the artists on all songs are the same, and thus will appear as album artist=Various Artists. I know this is what it currently does. Where is that specified and what is the mechanism for changing it? What I'm asking for is for something different because this is SO broken I don't know where to start, but I'll try. It's also open to interpretation: then album might appear under Home-Artist-Various Artists, but there it is listed as being by the Album Artist. And if such an album is listed as by Album Artist, would not a more sensible place for it to appear be under Home-Artist-Album Artist ? Snip Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: Such an Album is still found under: Home-Artists-Various Artists (albeit listed as by the album artist). If you are looking in Home - Artists - Various Artists, all albums listed in there are by album artist = Various Artists. You won't see any album artists within Various Artists. Not True. See attached image. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: And it is not listed under Home-Artists-album artist. Where it is wanted. Then fix your tags! No other music library software that I have used will interpret this correctly either. In fact, most other software wouldn't let you have multiple artists. iTunes. I'm not talking about multiple artist tags, just multiple artist in one tags. Nonetheless, iTune is still bright enough to list and sort by Album Artist. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: You must have tagged that song specifically to have two performing artists, so you must already know something about tagging. If you'd not set the guest artist, the album would have been detected with album artist = My Favourite Band. Actually, I suspect that you haven't actually defined two artists on the song, but one artist called something like My Favourite Band and Guest Artist. Yes! So? this is perfectly valid. But here's the problem. Doing so makes the Album Artist almost entirely pointless. And makes the album a Compilation. This is broken. Philip Meyer;290932 Wrote: bullgod;290899 Wrote: For example: My
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
Thanks for your responses, there's definitely nothing backlit about mine. NFI what the thinking is behind packaging different remotes to different regions, you'd think stumping up for a Transporter would at least get you the backlit remote. Even better I cannot order a remote from Logitech or the AU distributor - Logitech AU won't bring them in. -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys can be taught to cut code, and world peace is utterly unrealistic... egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Upgrade to SC7 - Server will not start now
I take it you have done a clear library and full rescan ? James -- coupesport coupesport's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller won't wake up ?
Is this just me or does anyone else get this ? Thanks James -- coupesport coupesport's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
vrobin;290981 Wrote: I saw no auto update setting in the controller... There doesn't seem to be any way to control this behavior from the CONTROLLER settings, only in SC settings. Again, if SqueezeCenter-Settings-Advanced-Software Updates==Automatically.. ..then new controller software is automatically downloaded by SC7, perhaps as often as once per day depending on the version of SC7 you are running (7.0, 7.0.1, 7.1) and the controller will then prompt for an upgrade accordingly. On my system, the downloaded binary lands in: /var/lib/squeezecenter/cache Look for jive.version and jive_7.1_r2224.bin or some such. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
Maybe I should have made it clear that Logitech support fulfilled my request for a replacement remote (and more). Try them. I thought the service was superb. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing SB Receiver from wireless to ethernet
dean;291003 Wrote: Press and hold the button on the Receiver until its light is flashing red, then choose it in Choose Player and you should be walked through setup again. That's exactly what I've already tried. Given that it reconnected to the wireless network without offering me the option of ethernet (even though there's an ethernet cable plugged in), does this mean that the ethernet port might be dead? Do I need to do a factory reset on the Controller? -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46254 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music stops but controller still thinks it's playing
I've been seeing this same problem with a friends system. Randomly during tracks there will be very small static burst and then the audio quits. The controller still counts down. Skipping to the next track or restarting the current track and then it will be fine. In his case slimserver 7.0.1 is transcoding WMA Lossless. Anyone have any ideas? -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46099 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Software update
Ok, thank you very much! I see things clearer now :). The automatically check for updates does more than the pop-up help says. I verified and there is a firmware update in SC cache: $ ls -l /var/cache/slimserver/jive_7.0.1_r2223.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 slim slim 11433024 2008-04-12 22:28 /var/cache/slimserver/jive_7.0.1_r2223.bin So this should be the point. I'll take a closer look at version and dates on firmware downloaded by SC the next time controller asks for an update. No bug report should be needed. -- vrobin vrobin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46245 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller won't wake up ?
I've been having the same issue. I will set the remote down and when I pick it up several hours later the buttons are lit, but the screen never comes on. Holding the home button down usually will turn the remote off for me, then I can turn it back on. It doesn't seem to happen more than once a day and it seems to be at night that it locks up like this. I'm running the 7.01 beta on XP. -- casonbang casonbang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1459 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
If I understand correctly, it sounds to me as though bullgod's requirements could be met with the following additional logic: If every track has TRACKARTIST=Artist X (even if some tracks have multiple TRACKARTIST tags) and ALBUMARTIST is not already set, then set ALBUMARTIST=Artist X. You'd want to exclude the extreme cases where there is more than one artist that every track is tagged with. -- smc2911 http://www.last.fm/user/smc2911/ smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter Remote
ModelCitizen;291040 Wrote: Maybe I should have made it clear that Logitech support fulfilled my request for a replacement backlit remote (and more). Try them. I thought the service was superb. MC Thx, I'd already emailed them explaining the situation after my rant. Hopefully there's a simple solution to this. -- egd Internet forums: conclusive proof depth of gene pool is indeed variable, monkeys can be taught to cut code, and world peace is utterly unrealistic... egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43173 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection
I've also been involved in several wide-scale customer-facing implementations, and I can say that unless you have internal numbers (including real sales/delivery numbers) from Slim Devices/Logitech, then there is no way of being able to make any valid commentary on whether this product was rushed or not. Anyone with real experience in this realm would know this. Also keep in mind that looking at this particular forum as a litmus test for the scale of an issue is not a good idea. Chances are those with issues are more likely to wander in here to make a post, vs. those who have no issues. If someone were to say hey, everyone who's posted here has had issues! my response would be, well...duh. :) Anyway, I had some of the same issues. Blue icon, red icon, lost connection to the server, spinning arrow. Upgraded to SC 7.01, and now at remote v 2223. No issues so far, definitely much improved. Graeme -- gboz13 gboz13's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45031 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
I've been using album artist to keep albums together and artist so that I could see who is on the track. I started with Itunes, then went to Media Monkey and I use mp3tag to correct everything. It was with mp3tag that I discovered that I had to use band to see album artist. I didn't know about mp3 standards, just didn't know that it was my job to find out that my programs didn't use standards correctly. Now after wondering why some of my albums end up as Various Artists and trying to fix, I find out that one different track artist will make that happen no matter what you have in album artist. Someone earlier had said: As stated earlier, give as clear set of rules and I'll adjust. No problem - SC is my most important application and I'll adjust mu use of tags to it. Just don't make me change it again and again and force me to numerous recans just to try to figure out how it works using try and miss method. This would have been nice and maybe it's there somewhere, but I can only read and search so much. I think an option to have squeezebox scan differently would be a good thing. I don't use Itunes anymore so I don't use that switch but I think a lot of people organize by Album Artist so they can keep the artist tag accurate to the song. Anyway I'll adapt, but just need to know how to adapt the right way. -- Nonreality *-If the rule you followed brought you to this, what good is the rule.-* Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
Hey I just became a member instead of a junior member! Pops cork! OK I'll leave now. :) -- Nonreality *-If the rule you followed brought you to this, what good is the rule.-* Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 3 + Apple Time Capsule + Wireless = no love?
what bitrate is the music stored at? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44165 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to turn off annoying crossfade?
Funny thing, but I started getting this on one of my players today. I was playing some random mix, turned crossfade on, and couldn't turn it off, or at least not for more than one track. Then I realized it was almost certainly the Transition Updater plugin that was taking over. Transition Updater looks at a playlist, and only crossfades for tracks that are not consecutive album tracks. My recollection was that on previous versions (for SS 6.x) if you turned off crossfade globally, it wouldn't crossfade anything, but that doesn't seem to be the case now. Or maybe I'm misremembering. As soon as I put on an entire album, I could turn crossfade off in SC settings, and it would stay that way. And if I try to turn crossfade when playing an album, Transition Updater turns it off again. Later I'll try to verify this diagnosis by switching off the Transition Updater plugin. I doubt this is the source of the OP's (benslim) problem, because with a new install and a clear dislike for crossfades, it's highly unlikely he would have installed the Transition Updater plugin. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45939 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller scratch
SilverRS8;282428 Wrote: I don't understand why they choose the glossy backcover. Very scratch sensitive, same as SB3 remote. Glad though that the Controller front is more scratch proof Actually I'm extremely disappointed with the front face ptotection . I've only had my Duet for 2 weeks and have many scratches. I would have thought that 1) the front face be made from glass , extremely scratch resistant or 2) use a scratch resistant coating or 3) offer face protectors or a case etc. Now with all that said there is no way I'm parting with Duet, it's a fantastic piece of equipment. I just wish the product design would have matched the user interface. -- pc4ever1 pc4ever1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3836 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45139 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
Philip Meyer;290980 Wrote: - scanner. Last time I mentioned that its functionality to recognize changed tracks isn't good enough - does it solely based on file update date vs last scan date. Is that not good enough? If tags or actual song data change, most tools that write the content back will cause the last changed timestamp to be updated. No it isn't good enough. Quite contrary. The most advertised tagging program here, mp3tag, allows not to change a file update date (preserves it, to be exact) when changing tags. Purpose of this would be that, when using New Music option (one very useful and well though of feature), album doesn't get to be included just because I changed a tag; New Music playlist remains filled in chronological order of ripping and adding to library. Even file size wouldn't cut it as it looks (at least in flac) that some tagging space is already allocated, so that file size isn't going to change with updating tags. Philip Meyer;290980 Wrote: - concept and handling of 'track artist' contributor type. Basically, if there is ALBUMARTIST defined for the album, then all ARTISTs become trackartists. There is no connection between the guy who is ARTIST on one and trackartist on another album. It is not possible to flow (or drill down) in SB menu system from trackartist to artist. Now, that might be how the code works, but from real world prospective makes little sense. I always thought that the track artist contributor type was a little strange, or at least that artists performing on a song when there is no album artist should also be called track artists. Not sure why there is a distinction, but I'm guessing it is to do with whether a user wants to show all track artists in the browse by artist list, or to only show album artists. Phil It works fine for not showing artists in the artist list if that is their only performance. However, it also doesn't allow you to go (following artist link, drilling down by tag) to other albums of that artist if there are any. For example (I'm repeating myself, but this was obviously missed before, and it clearly shows that the concept is incomplete): Album 'Genius Loves Company' by Ray Charles. Every track is performed as duet with some other (fairly known artist). So, there is a track with Diana Krall. Now, I tagged it with Ray Charles as ALBUMARTIST for every track (the whole album) and ARTIST on each track being the other performer. During the scan, those artists are converted (assigned role) to trackartist (that is not a tag per se, but a role and a literal in browser and in SB menu). Album will be listed by Ray Charles (fine), maybe under various artists too (fine), and none of the artists won't show in browse by artist listing (that's also fine). However, I have a couple more albums where Diana Krall is the artist (the only one, so albums are listed by Diana Krall). Problem is that Diana Krall from Ray Charles' album doesn't see her other albums if I browse by tag artist (trackartist, that is) while listening to that track. Interestingly enough, if I had another album where Diana is also a guest artist, those two albums would see each other (and still none of big albums by Diana). Now, there is solution to this problem, but not suggested on this site and not suggested in user documentation. I got to it analyzing the code, so it doesn't qualify as targeted to the end user. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Problem with album art - bit messed up
I have a new problem with my album art, on the Album list the covers are wrong on a few CDs, seem to be duplicates of other CD's. This is a new problem. The art is correct when I view the album - just not in the album list. The folder.jpg is correct, re-indexing did not solve (stopped and restarted SqueezeCenter. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks. -- afree afree's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46273 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
slimkid;291079 Wrote: No it isn't good enough. Quite contrary. The most advertised tagging program here, mp3tag, allows not to change a file update date (preserves it, to be exact) when changing tags. Purpose of this would be that, when using New Music option (one very useful and well though of feature), album doesn't get to be included just because I changed a tag; New Music playlist remains filled in chronological order of ripping and adding to library. Even file size wouldn't cut it as it looks (at least in flac) that some tagging space is already allocated, so that file size isn't going to change with updating tags. No way that's going to happen. There's no way to do it without examining the tags in every file. Who wants a scan for new music to take as long as a full scan, which is what would happen if every file is examined in detail? Just do a clear/rescan if you're in the habit of changing files without updating their mtime. If SqueezeCenter ever gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a split second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to do a full scan without first clearing the database. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement: a new PSP skin
Hi all, I am considering upgrading (or rewriting) the skin to work with the new SqueezeCenter 7.x. I've stalled on this because of all the work associated with it - at first blush it is not trivial. Let me do some more investigating. But thanks for your positive comments about the skin. I'm glad to hear others have found it useful. - Tim -- tmarti tmarti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5263 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35993 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
Philip Meyer;290980 Wrote: - concept and handling of 'track artist' contributor type. Basically, if there is ALBUMARTIST defined for the album, then all ARTISTs become trackartists. There is no connection between the guy who is ARTIST on one and trackartist on another album. It is not possible to flow (or drill down) in SB menu system from trackartist to artist. Now, that might be how the code works, but from real world prospective makes little sense. I always thought that the track artist contributor type was a little strange, or at least that artists performing on a song when there is no album artist should also be called track artists. Not sure why there is a distinction, but I'm guessing it is to do with whether a user wants to show all track artists in the browse by artist list, or to only show album artists. Strange. Inconsistent. Unnecessary. Take your pick. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
JJZolx wrote: If SqueezeCenter ever gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a split second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to do a full scan without first clearing the database. Clearly the database is already undesirable. We just haven't gotten folks to accept that. The database should be the repository of data, some from the tags, some from other sources. There is no possible way to handle the rich data needs of a complex library, especially for genres other than pop/rock/country with tags. All of these many discussions/threads and confusion will go away when we just stop thinking that the tags are the only source of data. Its a relational database. It can do nearly anything. There is no hope for a hierarchical tag based solution to do what we really need. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Password protection in SC7 and Controller
Mnyb;290834 Wrote: I'm aware of the fact that password in SC7 and Controller won't work. So when will this be fixed and what priority has it. I'm expecting my duet in about a week or two. Yes i know that that the password protection in SC7 is not much of security, but its better than nothing. My real security is that my music server is only that (no sensitive private data lying around), and I have backups . Interesting facts: Softsqueeze, winamp foobar honors the password. Squeezeslave just cut trough ? is it so good at emulating a hardware player that SC7 won't know the difference ? this is a potential security hole. rgds Mikael I've gone around the user/password issue by using the IP allow feature. The only flaky thing I've found there is that the full IP addresses must come first in the list with the range IP's following.. -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
Sorry, typo alert Pat Farrell wrote: JJZolx wrote: If SqueezeCenter ever gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a split second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to do a full scan without first clearing the database. Clearly the database is already undesirable. We just haven't gotten ^^ Should have been Clearing the database is already undesirable. We just haven't gotten folks to accept that. The database should be the repository of data, some from the tags, some from other sources. There is no possible way to handle the rich data needs of a complex library, especially for genres other than pop/rock/country with tags. All of these many discussions/threads and confusion will go away when we just stop thinking that the tags are the only source of data. Its a relational database. It can do nearly anything. There is no hope for a hierarchical tag based solution to do what we really need. The database should not be reset glibly. Its a data source. It needs to contain data that is not in the tags. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem with album art - bit messed up
I should add, this is not a problem on the remote, just in my browser - is tis a browser cache issue? -- afree afree's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46273 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
slimkid;290974 Wrote: A code following it handles timestamp but not size. So they even knew that there was a problem but for some reason choose not to solve it. Most likely removed to speed up rescans and because it isn't as useful as you would think. Most taggers pad. This is true not only of mp3 tags but also flac: By default metaflac tries to use padding where possible to avoid rewriting the entire file if the metadata size changes. Use this option to tell metaflac to not take advantage of padding this way. So it is very possible to change tags and not have the filesize change. In fact, in many if not most cases (unless you write a ton of tags, such as with Picard and all the MB tags), the file size won't change due to padding. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does SS6.5 support duet? Why my Duet controller often loose connection with server?
I'm keeping fighting with my buffalo Linkstation Pro these days, but didn't success with the installation of SC7 on it yet. On my PC side, after upgrading the SC to 7.01, seems the connection is much more stable now. -- skynet skynet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15562 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45890 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does SS6.5 support duet? Why my Duet controller often loose connection with server?
skynet;291093 Wrote: I'm keeping fighting with my buffalo Linkstation Pro these days, but didn't success with the installation of SC7 on it yet. If you look on the 3rd Party Hardware forum another user has written a very detailed how-to for installing SC7 on a LinkStation Pro. It's pretty complicated, but it has worked for at least a few users. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45890 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Scan stops part way through
I am running SC 7.0.1-18702 on an XP machine and have a repeated issue with scans not completing. I have ~5,000 tracks in MP3 and FLAC format. I do a 'Clear library and full rescan', but it doesn't complete, and stops at an apparently random point. I had the same issue with the previous version of SC 7.0.1. Any suggestions? -- Hopscotch Squeezebox Duet, Qnap TS-109Pro v2.0.1 0319T Hopscotch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46275 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scan stops part way through
Have you tried looking at the scanner log? It might help you track down the problem. C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\SqueezeCenter\Logs (assuming default installation). MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46275 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Threads dissapearing?
Are we loosing some discussions here or it's just me? I could swear that I took part it some talks about tagging, and that seems to be gone since last half an hour. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46276 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Threads dissapearing?
slimkid wrote: Are we loosing some discussions here or it's just me? I could swear that I took part it some talks about tagging, and that seems to be gone since last half an hour. I think so too. I edited one of my posts in Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags and now the thread is gone. Or seems gone. Maybe my typo fix caused the whole thread to go away? -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Threads dissapearing?
I restored the thread. -= Jim -- JimC well, she wasn't all of that, but she sure was some of that. -- BKlaas' college buddy JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46276 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Password protection in SC7 and Controller
IP allow would work on your local net ? (ip allow feature in SC ??) I'm accessing my server trough the internet, from random places like hotells. -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Artist vs. Band (TPE2) tags
pfarrell;291088 Wrote: JJZolx wrote: If SqueezeCenter ever gets to the point where clearing the database (which takes just a split second) is undesirable or unnecessary then add a third scan option to do a full scan without first clearing the database. Clearing the database is already undesirable. We just haven't gotten folks to accept that. No. There's nothing in the database right now that can't be destroyed and rebuilt from scratch with a library scan. At some point in the future maybe this will not be the case - such as for ratings. But even with ratings, developers are (wisely) devising schemes that will survive a complete wipe of the database. As to whether it's unnecessary... there are unfortunately still situations that require it. Artwork problems immediately come to mind. We still even have SD support telling people to uninstall, delete everything, and reinstall, to fix some problems. The database should be the repository of data, some from the tags, some from other sources. That might be nice. Like the plugin someone did to let you enter and manage sort strings for contributors that lives in a database outside of the tags. No need then for things like ALBUMARTISTSORT, COMPOSERSORT, BANDSORT. But when that day comes I'd imaging 'clearing' the database would then just selectively clear it. Keep the data in the ratings table, for instance, but delete all tracks and albums. There is no possible way to handle the rich data needs of a complex library, especially for genres other than pop/rock/country with tags. All of these many discussions/threads and confusion will go away when we just stop thinking that the tags are the only source of data. Its a relational database. It can do nearly anything. There is no hope for a hierarchical tag based solution to do what we really need. Perhaps. I certainly don't see any movement in the software, though, toward this end. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: Special Characters like #345; and �
I cannot handle Björk either ! Sorry for that, couldn't resist. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42512 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
