Re: [slim] Suggestions for Squeezebox player replacement for a non-techie longtime SB user

2022-11-18 Thread GeeJay

I am not a techie.  Have no Linux knowledge at all.  Don’t have time to
tinker, but figured I’d at least give a raspberry pi a shot while I own
a workable SB Touch.  

After getting over the initial fear I bought a kit with a case, and
located the instructions on this site for how to load squeezelite.  I
can’t recall if it worked flawlessly the first time I turned it on, but
I did get it to work. In the past 2-3 years since I bought it I may have
have to reboot it twice.  It works flawlessly. 

As for multi-room, I decided to ditch the synchronized multi-SB setup I
used to have and started buying Denon HEOS speakers and a Marantz
HEOS-enabled network streamer. I was already going to upgrade my stereo
so that money was going to be spent anyway.  Synchronization is much
better than my old multi-SB network of players.  

The lesson here is don’t rule out the Pi if you can’t find something
else that fits your needs.  The hardest part, frankly, is getting over
the fear factor that you’re going to spend months having to figure out
how to make it work when it really doesn’t take that long once you
commit to it.



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Re: [slim] HEOS By Denon?

2021-05-23 Thread GeeJay

I do. I bought a Marantz AVR three years ago in large part because of
integrated HEOS. I have HEOS wireless speakers in several rooms in
addition to my stereo equipment.  

Multi room sync works well, and the sound is very good.  I still have my
raspberry pi running squeezelite and connected to a Marantz ND8006
network streamer/CD player via Coax and optical inputs (no reason to
have both, I just did it to see if there was any difference...there
isn’t). 

The HEOS software is stable. I suspect most folks who have problems with
it have network issues. I have a siriusxm subscription as well as Amazon
UltraHD, the latter of which streams a minimum of standard FLAC bitrates
up to 192/24. I have really good WiFi now, download speeds of 200mbs
minimum, so the streams are trouble free (I had 50mbs when I first
subscribed to Amazon UltraHD, and had frequent issues). 

The biggest negative is that the HEOS application is extremely basic.
Many of the features available on the Amazon UltraHD and Sirius apps are
unavailable through HEOS. 

I still use LMS quite a bit, and frequently stream throughout the house
through HEOS. It’s a little awkward, as I have to open HEOS first and
choose the digital input from my ND8006, then open iPeng to start LMS. 

I still have my Touch, too, which is hooked up to my family room Marantz
system via analog, using the Touch DAC. I’ve not tried any sort of
blind A/B comparison between the ND8006 DAC through which I run my Pi
(and listen in the family room via HEOS) and the Touch, but I think the
Marantz sounds a little better.

That’s a lot I tried to share in one post. If you have other questions
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Re: [slim] Music file storage advice

2020-09-24 Thread GeeJay

Is noise an issue with any of these solutions? I also use Mac mini (ten
heads old now) as my music server, with a Pi as my streaming device.
It’s. Quiet operation, which is necessary since it’s in the same room as
my main stereo.  

I’m looking to upgrade, since I’m starting to have performance issues
with the Mini. Would like to transition to something else before it
gives out or is hopelessly out of date. It’s been a wonderful host for
my local music and LMS for ten years, but I need to plan for the future!

Btw, cost isn’t a big issue for me...most concerned with ease of set up
and reliability.  I’m in an all-Apple household, fwiw. 


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Re: [slim] My New Hobby

2020-09-24 Thread GeeJay

mherger wrote: 
> > Thank you for your reply.  Would it better on a nuc or Mac Mini? 
> Would
> 
> If you are familiar with Linux then I'd go with it. There are important 
> cahnges to macOS ahead, and Apple has deprecated the scripting
> languages.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

This scares me.  I’m an all Apple house and was thinking about replacing
my ten year old Mac mini which hosts my LMS and local music files. 
Should I hold off? 

I hate changing anything, since I’ve been trouble free with my current
setup for many years, but want to retire my Mini before it finally gives
out on me...it’s already starting to be slow to respond.  


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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

2016-09-18 Thread GeeJay

It's good to know Roon is out there should LMS no longer have community
support, but $499 is steep.  Particularly if it closes up shop like SB
did (as a commercial venture, at least).

I've been very happy with my 2 Pi's.  I'm not technically gifted, and I
had little problem setting mine up.  I'll likely step up and purchase a
display at some point, although the one remaining "real" SB in my system
is a Touch and I don't have a real need at the moment for another
display.



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Re: [slim] Advice Please - FLAC to MP3

2016-05-08 Thread GeeJay

dbpoweramp for me, too.

It's been awhile since I've done this, but I think you can rip a CD to
both FLAC and mp3 at the same time if you know you want a lossy version.



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Re: [slim] poll: how many have AirPlay devices ?

2016-01-23 Thread GeeJay

Sync is so important to me that I've dismissed all the other commercial
alternatives.  I would answer 'yes' to all your questions, although
cross-fade is more important to me than fade in/out.



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Re: [slim] Spotify adding local music to playlist

2015-12-13 Thread GeeJay

How well does Spotify/Smart Mix work in a multi-player synced setup,
particularly with a mix of SBs and Pi's?



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Re: [slim] My last SB Classic just died...What to replace it with?

2015-08-23 Thread GeeJay

Not being a techie, I was a bit apprehensive putting together my first
Pi.  It really did turn out to be about as easy to set up as folks here
said.  It didn't work right out of the box, but it didn't take too much
work to figure things out and get it running.

I ordered parts for my second.  I'd like to eventually add a screen to
this one and mothball my fading SB3.



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Re: [slim] a 3D printable enclosure for raspi A+ / JiveLite / piCorePlayer ?

2015-08-20 Thread GeeJay

philippe_44 wrote: 
 Yes, I was thinking about the casing being capable of hosting a dac+ or
 digi+ board optionally and basically you choose what you want to build.
 There is a limit to the number of boards :-), but hopefully one for the
 display, the pi itself and an optional dac+/digi+ could fit decently. On
 the SD card, I will have to stick to the microSD of the pi that fits
 fully inside

This is what I think I'm looking for.  I've purchased the digi+ and the
pi, and would like a display to go with it.  Should I go with a
temporary option to tide me over until the officially supported screen
finally arrives?

My SB3 display is dying, so I need to come up with a decent solution in
the near future, then rethink the setup when all the right pieces become
available for finished-looking product.

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Re: [slim] Is this the Boom Mk2 that Logitech should have made ?

2015-06-27 Thread GeeJay

jimzak wrote: 
 I synced the avy with the boom sitting next to it.  The result was poor,
 producing a discernible echo.  I did not try any sync adjustments.
 
 

Bummer.  Thanks for the test report, nonetheless.



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Re: [slim] Is this the Boom Mk2 that Logitech should have made ?

2015-06-19 Thread GeeJay

Have you tried to sync it with other players?  If so, how does it
perform?

Thanks for the report, by the way.  It's good to finally see some new
products that can take advantage of LMS.



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[slim] Axiom Air Kickstarter

2015-06-12 Thread GeeJay

This is interesting:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/axiomaudio/axiomair-wireless-wifi-speaker-multiroom-sound-sys/comments

Raspberry Pi as the brain, so perhaps Squeezelite will work on it?

The Kickstarter price is in my range...looks like Axiom is going to try
and charge a lot more after it goes into regular production.



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Re: [slim] How Many Are Using Raspberry PI 2 to Replace Squeezebox?

2015-05-03 Thread GeeJay

I've been using one for several months to replace an SB Duet that was
part of my collection of 4 working SBs.  It's been flawless thus far.



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Re: [slim] Added to the long list of Squeezebox replacements....

2015-03-11 Thread GeeJay

SlimChances wrote: 
 Could Nest be the one that unseats Sonos?
 http://www.cepro.com/article/nest_audio_coming_soon/

I hope by innovative, they don't mean, doing what 50 other startups
are doing, and not offering meaningful differentiation from one another
or Sonos.

Or, put another way: It's the Software, Stupid!



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Re: [slim] Dummy Guide on DIY SqueezeBox based on RPie?

2014-12-18 Thread GeeJay

I think I need a guide for Someone who is too dumb to even use a dummy
guide.

I bought the parts, loaded the software on the card, plugged into
LAN...and I can't even find the RPie on my network.  I'm not sure where
to search in the PiCorePlayer thread for any similar issues.

Can anyone point me in a direction that might lead me down the right
path?



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Re: [slim] What is the best way to add a room to your server these days?

2014-11-24 Thread GeeJay

pippin wrote: 
 Which device and iOS/Android version was this?
 I know some Android devices (I think it depends more on the device than
 he Android version) have sync issues but iPeng on iOS should sync as
 well as a Squeezebox, at least from iOS 5 on.

iPhone 6, iOS8 and LMS 7.8.1.

I'll try again when I have some time in the coming days.  Maybe it was
just a one-time thing.  I only tried once, about a week ago.



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Re: [slim] What is the best way to add a room to your server these days?

2014-11-23 Thread GeeJay

pippin wrote: 
 Any spare iThingies or Android devices? With external speakers they make
 for pretty good players and one tends to have a few old ones around
 these days.
 The old IPeng can still be installed on devices with iOS 4.1.2 and newer
 and I believe SqueezePlayer on Android still supports some 2.x versions
 of Android.

pippin, I tried this the other day.  Unfortunately, it didn't sync well
with my other players.  I didn't try making manual timing adjustments,
but it was off by quite a bit.

Perfect sync may not be a requirement for the earlier poster, but if it
is I'm wondering if this is a good solution.



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Re: [slim] OnAir Player: New Streaming Platform

2014-11-08 Thread GeeJay

onairplayer wrote: 
 
 
 We are currently not yet supporting perfect-sync play across multiple
 devices, but we're working on it.

Let us know when you do, please.  That's one of the big reasons I'm
sticking with LMS and my SBs.  The other is Erland's plug-ins, which no
one outside the SB world seems to appreciate, and no one who currently
uses them wants to do without.



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Re: [slim] OnAir Player: New Streaming Platform

2014-11-05 Thread GeeJay

Can you sync multiple devices?



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Re: [slim] What else is out there?

2014-10-06 Thread GeeJay

Jeff_G wrote: 
 Wanboard? I googled it but as I am not so technically minded it doesn't
 mean much to me. I need to use my phone to select the music and radios
 from the Synology DiskStation.
 

I'm not technically minded, either, but have been monitoring the board
for developments in this regard, hoping that someone will offer me a
simple roadmap that even a non-techie can follow.  This is the closest
I've been able to find so far:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?102058-I-want-to-build-a-Squeeze-player



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-20 Thread GeeJay

cliveb wrote: 
 If you just want to be able to buy a piece of hardware that will
 integrate into your LMS system, pre-built RaspberryPi + HiFiBerry in a
 case packages are starting to appear on eBay. Here's are two examples on
 the UK eBay site:
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DBM-Network-Audio-Player-Music-Streamer-DLNA-UPNP-HiFiBerry-Squeezebox-/281427452471?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Otherhash=item4186622237
 and
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HifiBerry-DAC-Music-Streamer-/131292006075?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Otherhash=item1e919d06bb
 (Not cheap, but neither is Sonos).

Actually, that IS cheap compared to Sonos.  $200-$250 USD is right where
I want to be, although I certainly wouldn't mind paying less when I can.
Thanks for posting those links.

pablolie wrote: 
 i still miss a good primer on this. there's always a reference it's
 around somewhere, but is there an idiot's quide to building a community
 squeezebox replacement somewhere? or can we buy a packaged one? i don't
 want to compile, install and troubleshoot. i'd rather pay $200.

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Re: [slim] Logitech invests in the smart home with Harmony remote and hub

2014-09-17 Thread GeeJay

I recently bought the Harmony Hub, including the remote.  It's designed
primarily as a smartphone app, which is reasonably well designed, but I
wanted a remote with buttons to replace my Harmony One.  I like having a
remote that doesn't have a screen that can break (as occurred with both
my Harmony Ones), but the one aggravating negative to the remote that
comes with the Hub is there is no backlighting of the keys.  It's almost
an afterthought, as if everyone is just clamoring to use their iPhones
as remotes.

I might be tempted to step up to the new remote if they remedied that
problem, but otherwise I don't see much of a need for a 'home
automation' remote.  Although, if I ever upgrade my thermostats to wifi
models



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-17 Thread GeeJay

bpa wrote: 
 Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still
 accessible.  RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want
 proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security

I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out
of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't
understand most of what you guys are talking about.  Someone tells me I
can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I understand.



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Re: [slim] Taking the plunge: Need advice on homemade SB

2014-09-15 Thread GeeJay

The iPeng route has a lot of appeal.  I'm about to get a new iPhone, so
I could use my old one.  I seem to recall a thread devoted to using
iThingies as players, so perhaps I should go dig it up.



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-15 Thread GeeJay

philippe_44 wrote: 
 I've been a user of many SB devices (3 Boom, 4 radio, 4 receiver, 1
 Touch, 1 SB3 ...) I really love these devices, but I have to confess, at
 the risk of receiving tomatoes, that I've now added 2 Sonos:1, 1 Sonos:3
 and 1 Sonos:5 and I was able to have them reasonably intregrated with
 LMS system. LMS is still the center, but I the Sonos:5 acts as a gateway
 between the 2 systems using the SB Touch and, to my real surprise, the
 synchronization between the 2 system is absolutely perfect. I'm really
 amazed as there is no audible lag between the 2 and it can last for
 hours. Of course, I have to move to Sonos controller when I want to
 switch on/off the Sonos speakers, but at the end, this is a really good
 setting - I still love my SB system (still improving it :-))

This is interesting.  So LMS controls the Sonos units (outside of power
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[slim] Taking the plunge: Need advice on homemade SB

2014-09-14 Thread GeeJay

I am not a techie, and don't have even rudimentary programming skills. 
Getting my existing SB ecosystem to work the way I wanted it to took me
several years.  Networking basics were a challenge, as well as
troubleshooting other issues as they came up.  I figured them out,
though, so I'm not a complete technical idiot.

I introduce myself that way so when seeking advice, you understand why I
don't understand most of the threads in the various developer forums
dealing with the latest designs folks are experimenting with these days.
I have a need, however, and am willing to invest a little time since
this isn't an urgent need.

I'm looking to add a SB to my study.  I'd be happy with a Radio-like
device, although I don't need the screen.  I will likely use small
amplified speakers (haven't settled on those yet, so I could use advice
there as well), and they can be wired or wireless.

I need the device to be both WiFi and Ethernet capable.  I have had
connectivity issues in the past with this particular room, variously
trying both power line and wifi without consistent success. I anticipate
the need to experiment with both before I settle on one.

I mainly stream from my local library, although on occasion I'll use one
of the free services like Pandora.  Sync is very important to me, as I
frequently play the same music on multiple devices.

Hope I covered all the important stuff.  Any advice on what I should do
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Re: [slim] OK. It's finally happened. My SB3 can barely play a single song without rebooting.

2014-09-13 Thread GeeJay

I assume you cleared the cache?  I experienced similar behavior about a
month ago.  After trying a number of other 'fixes', I finally got around
to that step and it has been working fine ever since.



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Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations

2014-09-11 Thread GeeJay

I am actively watching for a true replacement for SB.  There are some
interesting designs, but the software is so rudimentary, or the devices
don't sync, that it amazes me a commercial venture doesn't simply come
out with an LMS compatible device.  Hell, even highly-touted audiophile
quality devices that cost thousands of dollars can't do what I want
them to do.

I'll bide my time, and if one of my SBs break down I'll either buy a
used one on eBay (at a premium over what I paid, but still cheaper than
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Re: [slim] Alternative to Touch

2014-09-07 Thread GeeJay

)p( wrote: 
 They sell a device they call the id. Its basically an intel nuc with
 their Linux version of jrmc preinstalled and setup so it works out of
 the box.
 
 See:
 http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=89084.0

You can't sync multiple devices, last I read on one of the JRiver
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Re: [slim] Sonos reforms ....

2014-09-04 Thread GeeJay

I hadn't realized that LG and Samsung had entered the market.  Do they
really have a competitive product?



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Re: [slim] Johann Sebastian Bach - RIP

2014-07-28 Thread GeeJay

I was always a bigger fan of PDQ Bach.



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Re: [slim] So Long -- It's been Fun

2014-07-12 Thread GeeJay

audiomuze wrote: 
 What makes you think sync is an issue when using squeezelite?

Other folks stating they were having issues at the time.

Keep in mind that I posted that over a month ago.  I've seen quite a few
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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-07-10 Thread GeeJay

Commercial is not a dirty word, JackOfAll.  I'm glad you're finding an
opportunity to get back in the game, and hope at the very least you're
able to recoup what you have already invested.

Being a fervent capitalist myself, I hope you actually end up in the
black when all is said and done.  Thanks for the update, and I'll keep
my fingers crossed that we'll be seeing a viable product in the near
future.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-07-08 Thread GeeJay

JJZolx wrote: 
 
 
 This is why I'd love to see someone like John push a manufacturer to not
 just help with distribution, but to take up the reigns and really design
 a full commercial replacement for Squeezebox.

Me, too.  If it improves speed-to-market, and perhaps allows a larger
feature set, I'd pay a bit more to see someone profit off of Logitech's
mistake in dropping the line.

After all, if I seek out an alternative, I'm looking at replacing 4 SBs
and adding a 5th.  All of a sudden, a bit more than $200 for a single
unit isn't that big a deal any more.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-07-07 Thread GeeJay

audiomuze wrote: 
 I don't get why the broader community is in need of some hardware - just
 get a Wandboard or like device, install Squeeze on Arch and plug it in
 to virtually any asynchronous USB DAC of your choosing and you have a
 perfectly functional Squeezebox transport that's in many respects more
 capable than you have with a Touch.

Can I do this with zero knowledge of Linux, using my Mac computer?  It
took me years to figure out how to get my network and LMS to work right.
Not sure I can handle anything more complicated than that.

Plus, there is the whole it better not look like an eyesore factor to
deal with in my household.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-07-06 Thread GeeJay

ctbarker32 wrote: 
 Not to pile on but I was wondering what exactly this project hopes to
 accomplish over already existing solutions?
 
 I have recently been working with a Raspberry Pi and the Wolfson DAC
 addon board combo using the Squeezeplug distro and also the
 Picoreplayer. At least with Squeezeplug, which supports the Woflson
 board, I am getting high resolution support that sounds great into an
 external DAC. 
 
 I'm all for pushing the envelope but the current hardware I cited is
 here now and working at a competent level and can only be improved with
 software enhancements over time.

Some of us are looking for a piece of hardware that is ready to go out
of the box.  I've been checking in on the Raspberry Pi, et al, threads,
and I'm totally lost.  I'm the guy that thinks Linux is a character in
Peanuts.  I don't understand any of the technical jargon, and want
something pretty to set up on top of the stereo cabinet.

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Re: [slim] Problem to synchronize different devices

2014-06-26 Thread GeeJay

pippin wrote: 
 My experience is that recentlySqueezeLite on Linux syncs pretty well,
 too.
 On Windows, I'm sure you'll needs to use an ASIO driver to ever get
 decent sync, I believe there's a SqueezePlay build that supports it.
 
 With Android sync quality depends on the device on iOS it works on all
 devices newer than 4 years or so (anything that supports iOS 5)
 
 Overall, sync quality for software players is improving with Windows
 generally being the element with it's non-deterministic driver timing.

It's been awhile since I tried to sync any of my iOS devices.  I need to
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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2014-06-16 Thread GeeJay

Thanks for the update, bibendum.  I've been following the comments on
their website and noticed the same things you've observed.  The
manufacturing issues you've mentioned make sense...once you switch to
overseas factories it is really tough to stay on top of build quality,
particularly if you don't have experience in the country of
manufacture.

I'm hoping Olive gets past this and finally start building some
momentum.  They really need to prioritize such basic functionality as
device sync (I guess they have to get to the point where they can ship
more than one unit per customer first) before they can move on to some
of the more advanced capabilities we enjoy with our SBs.

I'm now following several user forums for devices that *might* be
suitable replacements for my SBs, should I need to go that route.  It is
simply amazing how not one of them contain the entire package at a
similar price point...primarily deficiencies on the software side. 
Maybe, just maybe, some commercial outfit will negotiate a licensing
deal with Logitech and use LMS as the basis for another product.

Then I won't have to follow all these other companies that can't seem to
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Re: [slim] So Long -- It's been Fun

2014-06-08 Thread GeeJay

If I wasn't worried about syncing players, which is one of my
have-to-haves, I would really look hard at some of the other
alternatives to Sonos.  

Actually, if I didn't have to worry about sync, then I wouldn't even buy
another dedicated streamer, at least for awhile.  I'd try out one of the
software or DIY solutions that so many people on this board are
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Re: [slim] Yet another thread on replacing squeezebox devices

2014-06-03 Thread GeeJay

jimmypowder wrote: 
 I'm waiting for my Auralic Aries Streamer to arrive the end of June. 
 
 I will give everyone a small review of this device when I get it and
 have played with it for about a week.
 
 We will see if it's any good.
 
 I'm afraid of the Olive one. Company is a very poor communicator and
 never lives up to its promises. 
 
 The owner of Auralic is very communicative ,has great equipment and
 doesnt mind posting details
 in the Computer Audiophile forum

I checked out the Aries, too, but saw the price tag and moved on. Since
I need a multi-room solution, the bill would be astronomical for me.

It is a cool looking unit, though.  I'll be interested in your report,
even if I can't afford to act on a positive review!

PS: Agreed on Olive.  I can't believe how uncommunicative they've been. 
Makes one suspicious, and at the least glad I didn't invest at the
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Re: [slim] What happened to communitysqueeze.org

2014-06-02 Thread GeeJay

Well, I bet they don't feel any better about the way things turned out
than you do.

And do we really know how things would have worked out had Logitech not
bought Slim?  Who knows what their (Slim's) financial viability might
have been?  It's quite possible they were at the point that they
couldn't have gone on without a deep-pockets partner, and might have met
their demise even sooner without the capital provided by Logitech.

I'm disappointed, too, but you know what?  My SBs have given me
tremendous joy over the past 7 years, and I expect they still will for
at least a little longer until hopefully something else comes along. 
That's a pretty good return on my investment, and I'm happy that I at
least had a 7-year period where I enjoyed a system that perfectly met my
needs.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2014-05-31 Thread GeeJay

Still monitoring

Communication has been awful.  They haven't updated their Facebook page
(where they encourage folks to go for news) since March.  If you check
out the Olive One user forum, you'll see a lot of folks asking for
updates on delivery.  Many of these folks contributed to the original
Kickstarter campaign back in 2011.  It leads one to believe that Olive
has been having problems on the manufacturing end.  That surprises me
given that Olive is an established company.

The good news, however, is that some units appear to be getting
delivered.  A few user reviews have been posted, although not enough
detail to get a good feel for the product's capabilities.  Assuming
these are legitimate users, at least they aren't encountering setup
issues.

Checking out the feature requests, it appears that syncing multiple
devices is still on the drawing board.  I think the software is pretty
rudimentary (compared to LMS and it's suite of plug-ins).  This is based
on several questions I posted on the Facebook page about features I
consider must haves for any device I adopt.  The company at least is
asking for input on future development, so if they ever get this thing
off the ground, maybe they'll do a better job on that front than I've
seen with Sonos.

I'd be curious if anyone has observed anything different than what I've
seen to date?



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-05-31 Thread GeeJay

Reading between the lines of the last several pages of that thread, it
sounds as if there could be some for-profit enterprise that may be
getting involved.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that is the case, as
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Re: [slim] JRiver Id: New Media Player?

2014-05-30 Thread GeeJay

I've seen negative references to dlna in these forums, but am not
technical enough to really understand the issue.  Is it that there is
some fatal flaw with dlna to make it impossible to have the
functionality of LMS/SB, or is it just faulty execution?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that syncing devices has been an
issue, which would be a showstopper for me if a manufacturer can't
figure out how to do it as well as my SBs.  Not enough has been written
yet about the Id to know if they even claim to have addressed that
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[slim] JRiver Id: New Media Player?

2014-05-29 Thread GeeJay

As I was performing my periodic search for new products that may
eventually replace my SBs, if/when they ever wear out, I came across
this item that was apparently posted just yesterday:

http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=89498.0

Has anyone else heard of this product?  It looks like JRiver tried to
introduce a same-named product back in 2011, but this appears to be
totally different.

Seems to be very under the radar, or at least I've not been able to
find much press on it so far.



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Re: [slim] What happened to communitysqueeze.org

2014-05-26 Thread GeeJay

I sure hope the disclosure in #2483 doesn't mean that litigation was
being contemplated over this.  It would be a shame if folks weren't
allowed to fill the vacuum Logitech left, particularly if no company has
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Re: [slim] Computer as a player?

2014-05-23 Thread GeeJay

Isn't sync problematic?  Even a slight delay would be a deal-killer for
me, since I have several within earshot of one another.



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Re: [slim] New Device - Beep

2014-05-23 Thread GeeJay

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 According to their website, Beep currently does not yet support local
 music. 
 It looks like a sexy product though.
 

Looks like they fixed that problem:

http://site.thisisbeep.com/blog/2014/2/14/announcing-computer-library-support

I'd likely find the software lacking, as is the case with every other
product I've seen to date (other than SB), but I'm officially putting
Beep on my watch list.



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Re: [slim] Need recommendations for music subscriber service

2014-05-22 Thread GeeJay

Well, I was able to get Pandora to work again using the web interface
instead of trying to get it going through my remote.  Not sure what the
issue was, but I'm going to set up a few Favorites and see if that works
better.

I'm not thrilled with the sound quality at 128k (one of my must-haves). 
I suppose I can pay for the subscription and get better quality,
although that only gets me to 192k.

Of more importance is getting rid of the commercials.  Unlike the
previous poster, I am getting them every 4-5 songs.

Erland, I do have OSX and iPeng using iOS7, so that won't be an issue
once I settle on a service I like.

Qobuz looks to be much more expensive than the other services, even if I
can figure out how to get it in the US.  Cost needs to be less than
$10/month for me to feel it's worth it.

I'm leaning towards Pandora One.  At $4.99/month it probably fits most
of my needs at a wallet-friendly price, and I already have a few
stations set up through the free account I've had for years.  Truth be
told, 192k is probably good enough sound quality, particularly since
most of our listening will be outside by the pool.

Thanks for the ideas so far.  I'll be checking in periodically to see if
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[slim] Need recommendations for music subscriber service

2014-05-20 Thread GeeJay

The kids are home from college, and I'm tired of hearing them play music
through their iPhone and bluetooth speakers when we're together at home.
The problem seems to be that I'm not subscribed to a music service.  

I had the free version of Pandora (which I rarely used), but that
doesn't appear to be supported any longer.  I've almost stepped up and
paid for, at various times, MOG, Pandora's premium service, Spotify, and
probably a number of others whose names escape me at the moment.  The
thing that has kept me from pulling the trigger is that each one seemed
to have some missing piece that made it not worthwhile for me to pay for
it.

So, I'm seeking the best solution, with the following must-haves:

Works with my SB3s, Duet and Touch
Must be able to sync on multiple devices
Needs to have a large library, mostly mainstream pop, country, classic
rock, etc., although for me I like to stray from the hits.
Must sound good on my mid-fi system...I don't need lossless, but I don't
want 128k, either.
Needs to still be able to do all of this a year from now.

Like-to-haves:

Smart Mix compatible
Ickstream compatible (maybe they'll let me start testing it if I get the
right service!)

I think I've covered everything.  I'm hoping to get some good
suggestions before everyone shows up for the Memorial Day weekend!

Thanks,
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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-05-03 Thread GeeJay

RussellMrgn wrote: 
 I am really interested in how this project is going and how close you
 are to a unit that can be bought ready assembled ie a finished unit.
 
 Just recently my father passed, and he had a sonos system (play3 
 bridge) that I decided to try out. Well it sounded okish, but I ran into
 the problem of its file memory.
 Truth is I love my squeezebox system, and would never trust Logitech
 again because of what they so stupidly did to what was and still is a
 truly fantastic system. They had the whole world of music streaming in
 their hands, and threw it all away. There is nothing that comes even
 close today to what they had back then.

Every time I go researching the latest systems, I come away thinking the
same thing.  What a waste.

I'm anxiously awaiting developments on this front.  I don't need another
unit at the moment, but plan to buy several nonetheless.



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Re: [slim] Still Love My Squeeze But Hardly Use Logitech Kit Now

2014-04-05 Thread GeeJay

Not surprised that Erland's plugins are perhaps the main reason you
stick with LMS. It DOES surprise me, however, that with all the new
products coming on the market, not one appears to be putting any effort
in replicating some of the functionality he brought to the table.



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Re: [slim] Poor old Logitech ....

2014-03-21 Thread GeeJay

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
 If you want the equivalent of a Squeezebox made by Apple then I'd say
 Sonos is pretty close.
 

My thought exactly.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2014-03-04 Thread GeeJay

Looks like this thing may get off the ground yet:

https://olivemediainc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201101764--Update-Mar-4-2014-Manufacturing-of-the-ONE-is-revving-up



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Re: [slim] MOG was the last straw: Moving to the dark side (Sonos)

2014-02-23 Thread GeeJay

Thanks, garym. Can't see myself settling for something with so much less
functionality.



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Re: [slim] MOG was the last straw: Moving to the dark side (Sonos)

2014-02-15 Thread GeeJay

Viventis wrote: 
 Sonos natively allows the creation of a queue mixing music from your
 home collection and streaming services.  I just created a short mix of
 music from my hard drive, MOG and Amazon Cloud.  I did it from the PC
 interface in a couple minutes.  It's playing as I type this.

Has Sonos introduced the concept of rating music and creating dynamic
playlists based on those ratings?  That's the thing that kept me away
before.  I think it's pretty cool how mherger was able to integrate
Smart Mix with erland's suite of plug-ins.



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Re: [slim] MOG was the last straw: Moving to the dark side (Sonos)

2014-02-04 Thread GeeJay

I'm curious if Ickstream will eventually allow folks who use streaming
services to continue using their SBs, regardless of the rapid-fire
changes in the industry.  I'm more tied to my local music collection, so
this has never been the hot button for me, although I've almost pulled
the trigger on Spotify a few times.  The possibilities of integrating my
local music and Spotify through the Smart Mix app is what has me
seriously considering subscribing.

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Re: [slim] OT: Bluesound as a Slimdevice replacement?

2014-01-16 Thread GeeJay

margava01 wrote: 
 I just received two bluesounds ( node and power ) and my first review
 about them compared with squeezebox touch:
 - better sound for the bluesounds ( the audio quality is strong ) and it
 is a better product than Sonos for audio. The sound is clear and bold.
 - far away from the flexibility of logitech media server. They will have
 a hard time to reach the level of experience and development of
 slimdevice's team and know how. I had a hard time setting a NAS sharing
 with my above 60,000 songs. Long time for indexing them was terrible.
 The app has issues with iphone and works well with ipad.
 
 If I had the funding I would suggest to bluesound to support LMS and use
 ipeng as middleware. It would be a Sonos replacement from day one and a
 nice migration path from a squeezebox fan like me.
 
 Would I buy a bluesound or a Sonos to replace in the future my amazing
 squeeze box players? Bluesound ! Well I didn't test voco or pioneer n50

Thanks for the report.  The search continues….



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2014-01-14 Thread GeeJay

Usually, when a company is missing deadlines AND unresponsive, that's a
sign of trouble.  Even if they ship a few units, my instincts are to
wait for awhile before jumping on board…assuming the product even meets
my needs.

Many thanks to the last few posters for confirming what I already
thought.



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Re: [slim] OT: Bluesound as a Slimdevice replacement?

2014-01-14 Thread GeeJay

olc wrote: 
 
 
 And if you are happy with how SB works, the VOCO stuff may be more
 similar to what we have now.

Have you tried it yet?  What are your impressions? Does the software
offer the same flexibility we currently enjoy?

The latter seems to be the thing that none of the other competitors seem
to get, which is the reason I'm more likely to go with some of the
community-supported projects currently underway.  I'm keeping my fingers
crossed, however, that a commercial outfit will come along and win my
business.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2014-01-10 Thread GeeJay

I wonder if this product is ever going to come to market.  It's now been
over six months since it's scheduled release date, and…nada.



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Re: [slim] Ok to sell Squeezebox equipment here?

2013-11-01 Thread GeeJay

I'm also curious as to how you used your old system, and if there is
anything missing in Sonos you wish you had. 

Personally, I can't live without some of the features in Erland's suite
of plug-ins. Afaik, there is no other product with ratings-driven
dynamic playlists, although I'm still searching. 

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Re: [slim] whole home audio syncronization: Squeezelite performance vs. real Squeeze Device

2013-10-04 Thread GeeJay

garym wrote: 
 One more data point. I sync several real squeezebox players (including
 one setup where there are two systems in the same large room, where
 being off would be very noticeable). They are rock solid with no
 skips, hiccups, or drifting off sync.

Same here. I have a duet, touch and classic that are usually synced, all
three of which are often within earshot of one another. I had some
problems in my earlier SB years getting perfect synchronization, but
somewhere in or around version 7.0 the company finally got it right. 
It's been quite some time since I have experienced any drift. 

That is among my biggest concerns switching to another system, or
replacing a dead SB with a software/homemade setup.



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Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server 7.7.3 released

2013-10-04 Thread GeeJay

Thanks for the upgrade, Michael. I have been running 7.7.3 on OSX for
the past month, and it boots and runs flawlessly!



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox is (not) dead... One year later.

2013-10-04 Thread GeeJay

JohnSwenson wrote: 
 We ARE working on it! See the Community Squeeze project
 (www.communitysqueeze.org). We hope to have our first player in beta
 test this year. The software can already be used with a Wandboard if you
 wish to hook up to a USB DAC or HDMI. Our first player is going to be a
 headless receiver type unit so we can get something out there as soon
 as possible. Other incarnations will be coming out later. 
 
 John S.

I haven't been following developments that closely, so I REALLY
appreciate the work y'all have done to consolidate all the efforts on
one site. Even if I don't need a player when some of these get to the
production stage, I plan to purchase just so I can keep up to date...and
support the community. 

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Re: [slim] Current performance of ALAC?

2013-07-13 Thread GeeJay

I switched over to Mac at the beginning of the year, and am also using
XLD for ripping. I miss dbpoweramp, but XLD at least gets the job done.
Plus, it will rip to FLAC, too.



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Re: [slim] Logitech divesting from some product lines

2013-06-22 Thread GeeJay

I can't stand using my iPhone as a remote. I had to do so when my
Harmony broke and I was awaiting another. The lack of hard buttons, the
need to click the home button to turn the thing on...I can't be the only
one that prefers a dedicated universal remote?



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Re: [slim] Alternate Universe or Nightmare?

2013-06-10 Thread GeeJay

My stuff works fine for now, so I enjoy checking in every few weeks on
the progress of the various hardware and software projects that are in
the works. It sounds like there will be some viable products by the end
of the year, and some of the software development (notably ickstream)
may allow further advances on the software side of things. 

In the long run, this call to arms may turn out to be a good thing,
spurring innovation that Logitech couldn't muster since the Touch came
out.



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Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-04-07 Thread GeeJay


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200

Question: What should we call this new device?

- Open Music Box 
- Melodia 
- Phoenix 
- Harmonic 
- None of the above


autopilot wrote: 
 Everyone's suggestions are equally bad.

Agreed.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream

2013-04-06 Thread GeeJay

aubuti wrote: 
 This is very welcome news indeed, all the more so because of who is
 involved. I haven't been in any hurry to worry about what happens
 post-mysb.com, but I've signed up on your site and am looking forward to
 following your progress with ickstream. Good luck with it!

My sentiments exactly.  I'm glad you guys announced when you did, so
those of us sitting on the sidelines can continue to demonstrate
patience until you're able to introduce your product. 

I'm hopeful I won't soon have to answer the question, but how will I
replace iPeng and Erland's plugins?



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Re: [slim] How would you like your social music life to be integrated with music listening ?

2013-03-23 Thread GeeJay

Most of my friends have crappy taste in music, so no.



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Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-03-23 Thread GeeJay


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200

Question: What should we call this new device?

- Open Music Box 
- Melodia 
- Phoenix 
- Harmonic 
- None of the above


I like Community Squeeze, at least better than anything else mentioned
to date.



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Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo

2013-03-20 Thread GeeJay

I like the cassette with hearts, too. And Community Squeeze gets the
idea across that this is a user-driven project.



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Re: [slim] Syncing wired SB3 with Powerline Homeplug SB3

2013-03-18 Thread GeeJay

My own experience with powerline adapters is mixed. Your success will
depend on the wiring in your house. They tend to work well if the
sending and receiving devices are on the same circuit, but may not work
as well otherwise. I also found that I had buffering problems if someone
was running other appliances in the house that pulled a lot of power. If
my wife was on the treadmill while I was trying to listen to music,
forget about the music for awhile!

I still use my netgear adapters successfully for other network
applications, but I eventually gave up on them as a consistently
reliable means of streaming music. But as I said at the outset, your
experience may be quite different since everyone's operating environment
is unique. 

You might start off as I did, and purchase a few used adapters off the
Internet. If they work for you, invest in new ones and keep the used
ones as backups.



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Re: [slim] Why shouldn't I jump ship to Sonos?

2013-03-04 Thread GeeJay

You say your fourth priority is SuperDateTime. That's a plug-in I use as
well, and I've not read that Sonos has anything like it. 

High on my list, probably #2 after multi-room sync, is ratings support
of random dynamic playlists. I have researched that, and Sonos doesn't
have it. For me at least, it's an easier decision to wait and see what
develops. If the community-driven alternative doesn't pan out, then
Olive One might, and the latter sounds like it could be at least as good
as Sonos. 

If online services were high on my priority list, I'd likely be feeling
a bit more anxious. As it is, I'm satisfied to wait and see what Olive
and the SB community offers up in the coming months. I'd rather make a
decision based on multiple alternatives than just one.



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Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)

2013-03-04 Thread GeeJay


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200

Question: What should we call this new device?

- Open Music Box 
- Melodia 
- Phoenix 
- Harmonic 
- None of the above


Well, if we're going to be inspired by Nick Lowe, couldn't we call it
the Jesus of Cool?



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Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 1)

2013-02-23 Thread GeeJay


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98148

Question: What should we call this new device?

- Vuvuzela 
- OpEncore 
- Melodia 
- Zela 
- Brikk 
- FLÄKK 
- Open Music Box


I opted for Open Music Box, since that at least gave some sense of
what the thing does. But I wasn't particularly enthralled with that
choice, either.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2013-02-02 Thread GeeJay

Plank wrote: 
 Can't you accomplish roughly the same thing as an Olive with an iPad
 mini and an Airport express?  I've been happy using iTunes match and
 about 10 internet radio apps.

Does sync work? My understanding is that is one of the main issues with
this kind of setup. I have several players within earshot of one
another, and if sync is slightly off it is unlistenable.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2012-12-23 Thread GeeJay

gruntwolla wrote: 
 +1
 
 ps Are you going to preorder one, or are you just going to watch like me
 and pay more next July!!

I'll wait and see how it develops. If the software isn't any good, it
doesn't matter how sexy the hardware is. 

I'm still confused about the specs. The discussion here is that there
doesn't appear to be a way to connect it to your hi-fi, but much of the
marketing material leads one to a different conclusion. They're billing
it both as a simple streaming device, or something that can be connected
to an integrated speaker. I need to email the company and ask how they
anticipate (or it they anticipate) users being able to use this with
their stereos when they start shipping the devices next year.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2012-12-23 Thread GeeJay

Scratch that last post. A more thorough reading of the entire site
reveals enough details that I understand the concerns raised here. You
would think they would recognize the market for a unit that can be
integrated into an existing stereo system, but apparently not.



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Re: [slim] Olive One - any downsides?

2012-12-21 Thread GeeJay

Well, I for one will be watching Olive One closely over the next year. I
like the approach: open source, community input, multi-room capability,
decent price point.  Let's face it, the odds that another product comes
along that does everything Squeeze does, and more, is highly unlikely.
I'll be satisfied if someone gets all the really important things right,
then takes it in a different direction that makes the thing viable in
the market.



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Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?

2012-12-13 Thread GeeJay

Looks like they are trying to raise capital, too. $200k, which doesn't
seem like much to me. 

Cool concept and design. I'm interested.



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Re: [slim] Thinking ahead: What alternatives exist for rating my music?

2012-12-03 Thread GeeJay

erland wrote: 
 Some questions (to you or anybody else reading this thread):
 1. On which devices do you use the ratings today, is it only on
 Squeezebox or also with some other kind of player hardware ?
 2. On which devices would you like to use the ratings in the future ? Is
 it only on Squeezeboxes and the devices that will eventually replace
 your Squeezeboxes or do you see a need on some other type of device also
 ?
 3. What file formats do you have in your music library ?
 4. Are you only interested in rating of tracks in your local library or
 also for rating tracks on online music from Spotify, Deezer, Rhapsody,
 MOG and similar services ?
 5. Are you only looking for free solutions or is it something you would
 be interested to pay for ?

1. Just the SB for now. If I had to switch to Sonos, I imagine I'd have
to create static playlists and import them into the Sonos system. I'm
hoping a better competitor comes along before then, of course, but
that's what I would do today if I had to. 
2. Whatever I buy to replace SB. 
3. Mp3 and FLAC. 
4. Just my local library, although I might one day subscribe to Spotify
or MOG.
5. I would be willing to pay for it.



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Re: [slim] Just One Question To The Original SD Team

2012-11-30 Thread GeeJay

castalla wrote: 
 Scared?  Are they frightened by anything else?

Scoff if you will, but I think they are representative of the broader
market Logitech has failed to reach. It really disappoints me that my
wife will plug in her iPhone to a set of external speakers rather than
use the SB in the same room.



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[slim] Thinking ahead: What alternatives exist for rating my music?

2012-11-30 Thread GeeJay

One of my biggest must haves once I am finally forced to replace my
SBs and LMS is the ability to rate tracks. I find myself very dependent
on Erland's suite of plug-ins for this purpose. I rate tracks, use
filters to create playlists that weight heavily towards highly rated
tracks, and really like the feature that automatically rates new tunes
and increases/decreases ratings when tracks are played or skipped. 

Is there an alternative I can consider switching to now that can provide
me with similar functionality? How can I best preserve my ratings such
that when the SB world finally goes dark I don't have to start over
from scratch? I used to import/export ratings from/to MusicIP, but given
that software is no longer commercially available, that doesn't appear
to be a great alternative. 

I know this isn't likely to be a real issue for several years, but
wanted to start researching the alternatives well in advance of when the
need arises.



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Re: [slim] Just One Question To The Original SD Team

2012-11-28 Thread GeeJay

I've owned and used Squeezeboxes for over 5 years. My wife and two
college-aged daughters are still scared of it. 

That tells me everything I need to know about why Logitech couldn't
advance the product line beyond the truly passionate music enthusiast.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread

2012-10-11 Thread GeeJay

I love volume control the way you have it. I hope you don't remove the
slider. 

I've often wondered why SB Touch doesn't have an option to show the year
of the album on the default Now Playing screen. I would love to see it
on iPeng.



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Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread

2012-10-09 Thread GeeJay

I like how the extra screen real estate allows you to use larger fonts
on the Now Playing screen, and not have to squeeze all the information
into the header bar as you have with the current version. Very nice!



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Re: [slim] iPeng 2.0 Teaser Thread

2012-10-04 Thread GeeJay

Cool! I just got the new iPhone, so I'm looking forward to a new iPeng.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-10-02 Thread GeeJay

erland wrote: 
 It seems like the some more blog comments now have been moderated, at
 least a few more is now visible including some answers. 
 
 There wasn't much news, but a few things were clarified:
 
 
 - They will not provide an upgrade path for the Touch or any other
 Squeezebox except for Squeezebox Radio. Hopefully this means they have
 an UE product without built-in speakers in their roadmap, if they don't,
 the UE Smart Radio line is more or less doomed at its current price
 level.
 - Most importantly, for the first time since 2009 when Sean left someone
 in the management actually seems to read AND respond to the feedback
 posted on the blog, at least some of the responses are posted in the
 name of the director of the new UE products.
 
 

I did find it interesting that in his response to my comment re: the
need for a product offering that speaks to the Touch/Classic/Duet user,
Ariel said that while they won't comment on what's in the pipeline, they
are working on products that they believe are compelling. That may
mean absolutely nothing, but if he really paid attention to what I was
saying, then perhaps there is something in the works that might be
worthy of our consideration.



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Re: [slim] Blog.Logitech: An Open Letter to Squeezebox Fans

2012-09-30 Thread GeeJay

gb115b wrote: 
 i guess sonos can have my money now...

I wish this was a viable option for me. Unfortunately, Sonos lacks some
key functionality that will require me to search for another alternative
once my current system gives out. I'm hoping Logitech will react
positively to Erland's request in the official forum (I provided my
support) so that I won't have to look too far.



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Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-22 Thread GeeJay

PasTim wrote: 
 Erland's tools, and the things you can do by adding to or modifying his
 basic tools, give you more control over what you want to play than
 anything else I have yet found :-)

And until someone replicates that, I will stick with my SBs until they
die and I can no longer find replacements.



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Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??

2012-09-17 Thread GeeJay

sander wrote: 
 2 details I've been curious about and I don't know if they've come out
 are:
 
 How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices?

I actually found a report from '06 that says they paid $20 million. I'd
provide a link but I'm too lazy to go search for it again.



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Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-14 Thread GeeJay

bobm wrote: 
 I think I am optimistic.  If Logitech comes out a a UE touch, I assume I
 will be able to play my local flac files with the new LMS (forget the
 name) and stream online content?  I wish they were backward compadablie
 with the current LMS but at least the road won't end for me.  Am I
 missing something?   Thanks  -Bob

The problem is, they haven't said they are coming out with a replacement
for the Touch. The closest thing we've heard is from mherger saying not
to expect a Touch as we know it. 

The other problem is that if you're enjoying the enhanced functionality
brought to you by 3rd party plugins, it is highly likely you will lose
much of that with UE. The only potential bright spot is that they are
apparently looking into adding Random Play, which is crucial to many of
us. 

If I could get back all the important functionality I currently enjoy, I
could get over the backwards compatibility issues (meaning I'd
eventually have to buy 4 new devices), and could even live with having
to access all my local music through the Internet (although I still
don't understand how that is more efficient).  I just haven't seen
enough yet to convince me that will end up being the case.



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Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?

2012-09-14 Thread GeeJay

erland wrote: 
 Which functionality do you feel is crucial that the UE Smart Radio adds
 to make you upgrade your whole system to the UE Smart Radio platform ?

It would have to retain the ability to run random playlists based on a
variety of factors, such as genres, years, ratings, etc. I would have to
be able to control it with a full functioning remote or iPhone app such
as iPeng. ReplayGain support and cross fade are important as well (I
haven't checked yet to see if these exist on the UE platform). Of
course, I'm assuming Logitech will come up with something other than the
Smart Radio to allow me to play music through my stereo, and have it
sound good. I'm also assuming UE players will sync as well with each
other as my current SBs do.

Even then, I wouldn't begin the process of upgrading until my existing
hardware gave out or they came up with a differentiating product that
was superior to what I already have.  But at least I would know I have
an upgrade path when those units start malfunctioning. 

If they can't find a way to give me the functionality I crave, I suppose
I'll be scrounging eBay and flea markets in years to come finding
replacements for my SBs as they die off.



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Re: [slim] LMS Future! What's version 10 of UE Music Library

2012-09-13 Thread GeeJay

mherger wrote: 
 
 There might soon be a workaround for Random Mix in the nightlies. It's
 not  
 as smart as on LMS, but probably good enough for many uses (queue up a 
 
 list of 100 random tracks - no automated renewal)
 

This is progress! A few days ago there was no mention of Random Mix at
all.



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Re: [slim] LMS Future! What's version 10 of UE Music Library

2012-09-13 Thread GeeJay

jimzak wrote: 
 It's progress until you consider that you can only listen in mono on the
 new radio unless you get two of them and play one channel on each ;)

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying all is forgiven yet. Logitech has a
long way to go before they get back in my good graces. The fact that
they are spending any time at all bringing back functionality relative
to my local music library gives me just a little hope that they aren't
completely forsaking loyal customers who still value that aspect of the
SB experience.



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Re: [slim] Crisis means opportunity

2012-09-13 Thread GeeJay

I've been holding off buying another Touch, watching the prices on
Amazon since the announcement. They had been holding steady at $239, but
I noticed tonight the price on new Touches inched up to $249.



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Re: [slim] Agh! When did this (end of SqueezeBox) start??

2012-09-09 Thread GeeJay

It was announced 8/29. Or rather, LogitechUE was announced. The only
mention of Squeezebox was the statement that the company would still
support LMS and mysb.com. They have retained the Radio, although the new
software focuses on ease of use vs flexibility/functionality.



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