Re: [slim] UPNP bridge
Logs are good, good job. What version of LMS do you have? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117327 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UPNP bridge
wiesiek wrote: > why UPNP bridge when i play flac file 192kHz 24bit it changes it and > sends WAV 192kHz 24bit, flac only sends to 176kHZ 24bit higher it > changes to WAV. It is set to no conversion and a limit of > 192kHz39615 Because Ive decided that such rates and depth make no sense :) More seriously, I dont know, set the conversion logging to info and post the extract of server.log. Also clean the bridge log, restart it and send the beginning LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117327 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > See photo > > Philipp asked that if yours is incorrect let him know he may have extra > parts. 18350x3 (boost) or 18500x2 are perfect fit to go inside the thick case LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > Question on flac file format stuttering. > > For some reason I have Pink Floyd:animals, ripped twice, AAC lossless > and flac. > > Its the flac version that is stuttering. > > Now I realize that I can just delete the flac version and move on. > > But just curious is there anything to debug, the flac files work when > played through a squeezebox radio. > > But stutters when played through squeezeamp. What is the bit depth and sample rate? Are you using the 32 bits version of SqueezeLiteEsp32? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
urknall wrote: > As we speak, boost versions should have bigger cases ;) > > Today my battery pack arrived, i definitely need another case :) > > > > CAUTION: THE POLARITY OF THIS BATTERY PACK IS WRONG, MAKE SURE TO CHANGE > IT BEFORE CONNECTING TO SQUEEZEAMP! The thick case magically fits is either 2 cells of 18500 (basic) 3 cells of 18350 (boost). Indeed if you use 18650 cells, its a different case. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > Yes, okay thats what the extra connector is for lol Will you be able to change it or do you need help? I should have offered the option before, but I was in a rush to ship everything before flying abroad LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > The ir functionality works great! > > I assumed that long press fwd, long press rwd would not work to seek and > scan within a song as I have been unable to get long press to work in > piCoreplayer. > > But long press works with squeezeamp!! The boost case has no opening for the battery because the battery is supposed to be inside. You should have received a straight spare connector for the battery so that you can replace the angled one and put the pcb inside the thick case. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Power cycle fails to start squeezelite
Are you sure the board does not have an issue when lowered cycles like the reset capacitor is too small? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117276 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
the_arm wrote: > Hi there! I built up my 3 new SqueezeAmps and so far so good while using > them to play when connected to unpowered speakers. I haven't checked out > the other outputs yet; that's on the to do list. The IR is working > great, which is super fun! > > One question - all 3 of these new SqueezeAmps report out ~8V on the LMS > Settings->Information page when plugged into a 12V power supply. My > SqueezeAmps from the previous run (which were boosts, I think?) all > report ~12V on the same interface / same supply. I'm guessing that's > expected and maybe a difference between basic and boost, but thought I'd > check in just in case. > > Other than that the only difficulty I had was the initial connection to > the SqueezeAmp. For whatever reason my windows laptop, when connected to > the SqueezeAmp's squeezelite wifi just would not resolve the > 192.168.4.1...or one time it did but then it just sat with a spinning > wheel as it was trying to load up the page with the wifis available > locally. I don't recall this happening last time, but it's also a new > laptop. I forgot to try the "laptop won't connect to airport wifi" trick > of using incognito mode so no idea if that would work, but instead was > able to connect to it on my phone by joining that wifi (with the default > password) and then selecting the notification that I needed to log in. > So, if anyone is struggling, that worked for me. > > Also, I noticed on the printing on board that the order of the polarity > for the speaker wire connections is different than the last run (or > maybe that's a boost vs basic thing?) - I assume the labeling is > correct? > > Thanks!! The polarity marking should now be correct, it was a mistake that one user mentioned for previous batch. The voltage is expected as I now measure the value at the battery pins. When there is no battery, its 8.4V for basic and 12.6 for boost. There is good and bad doing that, but previously the measuring point would only give me Vcc. For the casing youre right and I forgot about that, sorry. I had the option to put the IR receiver on the bottom side and I did not like it, so I opted for this solution but the casing should have been modified. You can reverse it but if you have a display, the missing honeycomb will be misplaced, and the opening for speakers header are a bit off. That still works though. The difficulty is that the case is made by the generosity of people around here and I dont want to abuse it. Still, Ill discuss @chill and @merlineng if we can make a batch of tops where the on/off opening is simply mirrored to be above the antenna. Meanwhile, I can send cases with no on/off holes if you prefer. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
You can also look on GitHub for SqueezeAMP LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
Jaca wrote: > Anyway all flashed OK.. Connected to WiFi and just tested .. I'm amazed > that such tiny board is running massive vintage wharfdale dovedale 3 > speakers.. Lol 49% volume and its pretty loud ..running of 12V > > Thank you Philippe! > > Just need to find better power adapter as one I tried jack barrel is not > sitting securely in socket.. Not sure why maybe it's slightly different > type. > > > OK time to assembly case I guess. Oh little bit confused with power > switch assembly is there any info on forums how to go about to? > Cheers > > Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using Tapatalk You can search for SqueezeAMP on Gitter. But you should have a preassembled small cable that fits in the 3 white headers. The on/off is the closest to the spdif plug LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
Paul Webster wrote: > I think Philippe shipped them pre-flashed ... Yes LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New approach to dead Boom / SB3 (Classic) / Transporter
JoeMuc2009 wrote: > Hey all, > > just wanted to let you know that the bipolar electrolytics are doing a > great job. I have compared to an SB3 with regular capacitors, having > both play a 1kHz sine wave in sync, and there is no measurable > difference between them. > Unfortunately, I forgot to measure voltages across the capacitor pads > before actually putting the capacitors back in. Sorry about that. Will > do that with the next repair as the device that was under repair > recently is already going back to its owner. > > Cheers, > Joe Hi Joe - I missed the original question but why not replacing them by same original electrolytics? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117140 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
Just a heads-up that I've almost shipped all my SqueezeAMPs. I have ~5 Basic left, no Boost (to my surprise). If you are interested, let me know because I'll be away until end of January starting next week. I know I've said that a couple of times, but it is more and more likely the last batch. Some parts are close to end-of life or are being incredibly difficult to find and I'm also close to run out of things like cases, cables, switches... I might do a last batch of ~20 but I'm not sure when, if ever. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
Do you think I should offer him to try a SqueezeAMP? It's tempting but first it is not a commercial venture (by no means) and second, it is very unlikely going to fit his expectations of audio quality so it might be a waste of time with frustration for everybody. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
MrC wrote: > If you have an extra, I would be interested in one. I'd like to have a > modern unit to eventually replace a Touch, should one of my 2 devices > succumb to old age. I'd like to get a head start coming up to speed on > the requirements for such a unit. > > I'm not concerned about the cost. I'd need simultaneous optical and RCA > out, Ethernet, but don't care about WiFi. I almost never look at the > display since it lives in my server cabinet with the whole house audio > amps and other equipment. Any reasonable case would be fine. I run LMS > on my Mac. > > I'm not a hardware guy, and although competent enough to do assembly, > I'd prefer to avoid breaking out in cold sweats trying to do anything > more than snapping parts together and basic wiring. > > I've read through this thread, and the others, but still feel uncertain > enough that I need to ask - would this unit meet these needs, and what > would you recommend? If you need Ethernet, then the SqueezeAMP is not going to work without a fair bit of hardware tinkering, so I would not recommend it LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New approach to dead Boom / SB3 (Classic) / Transporter
JoeMuc2009 wrote: > Hi all, > > just wanted to let you know that I had some interesting experiences > recently. It started with a shock when once again I had done SMD > capacitor replacement on multiple SB3s and the dropout rate was extreme. > Five separate devices, all would boot but crash and reboot once they > were commanded to start playback. Three of them "died" somewhere between > the moment I detached the CPU board to do the capacitor replacement and > the moment I put it back together to test. Three! They would do what > every dead SB3 does, show a very dim TOSLINK, no connectivity, no > display. And that despite the fact I hardly ever touched the CPU board > at all. > I still can't explain how it got to this three times in a row (even > five times in a row earlier which had me so depressed I would almost > quit). I wore a grounding wrist strap all the time. I discharged the > capacitors before replugging the CPU board. Used current limiting for > the first startup to ensure that a short won't blow anything up. Used an > IR camera to look for hotspots during powerup. So that was a bit > awkward. The devices were sent to me for repair and shortly after the > repair they would fail and be much worse than they initially were. One > of them had run a firmware update, then restarted and was normal for a > short period of time before it failed. Which brought me to an idea. > Just out of curiosity I extracted the Flash EEPROM from one of them and > put it in my reader. Compared to a known-working SB3 there were a lot of > differences, at least in the first blocks and, expectedly, where the > configuration is held. But I would not assume that the bootloader or > whatever is read first from the Flash is very different between > identical devices. So I attempted to flash the working image to the > EEPROM that was suspected corrupt, with erase first and eventual > verification of course to ensure that it isn't the chip itself that is > at fault. Then soldered the chip back in and, what do you know, two out > of three SB3s were recovered! A Boom PCB is under repair currently, I'll > try the same thing there as the hardware arrangement around the CPU is > similar to that of the SB3. It looks like what I used to call "CPU > death" actually isn't the CPU but the Flash memory for some reason. I > don't know why it happens. It should only be written to during > configuration and during firmware updates, but something during the > repair seems to cause a partial corruption. It's a pity that the EEPROM > needs to be desoldered and put back in place as this can only be done > once or twice before the board gets damaged. But it's way better than > attempting to reflow the CPU which I never succeeded at, and most of the > time it might not even be the component at fault. The EEPROM is not easy > to handle thanks to its 0.5mm (or so) pin pitch but way easier than the > BGA stuff under the CPU. > I have too little experience yet to document this or proclaim it as one > of the first measures to fix, and due to the complexity of the operation > it should rather be considered a last stand, but still. There is a lot > of new hope for the stack of failed SB3s and Booms I have around, and > I'll let you know how I fare with it. > > Cheers, > Joe That's excellent news! I wrongly thought that you already compared flash content in the past. I don't have my programmer here but I'll try as soon as I can get it LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117140 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
39263 +---+ |Filename: IMG_7541.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39263| +---+ LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
The AMPs are still with DHL in custom's clearance, although they should have been delivered Thursday... but they are less than 10kms away :) With the responses I have, there are 45~48 over the 60 being already sold, so 10~15 remaining. I'm not worried at all for these, but just to remind that I don't make those builds often (as always, it's not a business: I buy the components, pay for assembly and taxes, buy boxes and bags and that's what you pay for + shipment). So next lot, if any, is a year away at least. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
But at the time, wasnt it a gigantic leap in term of ease of use to navigate a library? I found it fantastic LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Darko Audio's recent video tribute to the Squeezebox (GOAT)
cfuttrup wrote: > Congrats! > > I agree with John Darko that 'Random Album' is a GREAT feature of the > system. > > Sorry to say, I also wasn't blown away with the quality of the sound > from the Duet. On my website, in 2009, I wrote "The Squeezebox Duet is > not a real Hi-Fi piece of equipment. I may be a bit sharp here, since > probably 80 % of the population (the average consumer) can live with it > the way it is. The Duet combo is a low-cost lifestyle piece of > equipment, and I guess that's where the money is for Logitech." > > With kind regards, > Claus But you have to give credit to the remote part of the duet. I think it was absolutely amazing for its time LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117071 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
the_arm wrote: > How exciting!! I didn't receive an email from you, so I just wrote you > directly; we've emailed before when I bought from your original batch. > Thanks! -Aaron Got it LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
I've sent an email for all who expressed interest for the new batch as it will be here this week. If you have not received anything from me, please send an email to philippe_44 at outlook dot com. Here is the content of the email I've sent. I don't have final price, but should be around 80USD. Code: - name and address - quantity - basic or boost (I only have 10 boost), see website to understand the difference - slim case, large case (for battery) - top case option (bear with me for a bit) => please look at pictures here https://github.com/philippe44/SqueezeAMP 1- normal, 7 honeycomb holes, no room for display 2- for small display (see pictures), missing 2 honeycomb holes to accommodate display 3- as 1- but with holes for an on/off switch 4- as 2- but with holes for an on/off switch note that options with on/off switch should be the normal choice if you selected the large case (with battery) - do you want a small display (limited quantity) - do you want cables to build your own extension and add on/off switch (limited quantity) I can't guarantee that there will be the exact case choice you want. I don't ship batteries. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > Awesome! Now do they come with the acrylic case or do I need to order > that(then)? > > Thanks again I think I have enough cases LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
Batch has been sent to me yesterday LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
KeBul wrote: > Yes > > Your initial interest/order will have been for basic or boost, I believe > you can change some components on a basic to bring it up to boost > specification - but these things are > tiny as are some of the components, so decent soldering skills with the > right tools for smd soldering and steady hand and heart would be > required. > No that would not work. The boost is a different PCB with a voltage converter that "boosts" the input voltage to whatever is needed to charge batteries. What can be changed on every PCB (basic and boost), by swapping a few components, is the number of battery cells (2 or 3) it is supposed to work with. By default, basic is 2 cells and boost is 3 cells. But basic does not boost input voltage an cannot acomodate any charger to charge batteries. > > If I remember correctly when Philippe receives the batch he will contact > you to confirm your requirements and advise of payment details (was via > PayPal for both my batches), I guess if you wanted to change from basic > to boost you can ask at that stage if he has any boost available. Of > course Philippe would have to confirm this - I'm not officially speaking > on his behalf. > Indeed, I will contact everybody soon :) > > Philippe/Sébastien have added ethernet support to the SqueezeESP project > but the hardware required is not included in SqueezeAMP builds at the > moment as that would change the form factor and require another > re-design of the layout. In this latest batch Philippe has managed to > add the IR receiver without making the unit any larger, so no need for > re-design of cases. That would not be the case if an ethernet socket was > added. > Kev 100% correct LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > On the GitHub it lists different supported displays like the SSD1322 > > What is the recommended display for the build? That fits in the case and > provides the most functionality? It really depends what you want. You can have tiny displays that fits inside the case, like 2 lines of 128 chars, or very large 5', B or grayscale, of have color screens 240x320 to have the artwork LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
philippe_44 wrote: > Regarding the batch, it will be shipped in the coming few days > Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk I know it's taking forever, but it should leave China real soon now :) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Regarding the batch, it will be shipped in the coming few days Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > @w3wilkes > @KeBul > > Thanks for the quick responses! Always something to learn! IR comes built in and works with a Logitech SB remote. To use other mode, you need a configuration of LMS to translate codes. Re airplay, I did the shairtunesw plugin and airplay ridge and squeezeamp with its associated firmware but I have disabled (AFAIR) the possibility to turn an airplay/squeezeamp into a SB using the bridge but you can still turn an SB/squeezeamp mode into airplay using shairtunes2w Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
bengaldave wrote: > Hello, > > While we wait for the build to be completed, how are you planning to > setup your new devices? > > Directly to speakers? Optical out to a stereo? > > I will start with directly to speakers Is this a general question? Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
yeomanspc wrote: > Will you be contacting people who registered interest? Any outlook for > when they might be ready? > > > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes I will write to everybody who sent me a mail. Id say about a month from now. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Strange behaviour of volume on synced players
mherger wrote:
> Could you please try whether one of the following would change
> behavior?
>
> - turn off Spotify Connect for a while. Also turn on INFO logging for
> plugin.spotty to see whether you see any volume notification around the
> time when this happens.
> - turn off the fixed volume on the Touch
> - make sure you don't have volume sync enabled
Might be here in StreamingController
Code:
# Bug 18165: master's volume might not be the right one to use
my $masterVol;
foreach my $player (@{$self->{'players'}}) {
next unless $prefs->client($player)->get('syncVolume');
$masterVol = abs($prefs->client($player)->get("volume") || 0);
last;
}
my $startedPlayers = 0;
my $reportsTrackStart = 0;
# bug 10438
$self->resetFrameData();
# fade-in has precedence over crossfade only player is stopped
$self->{'fadeActive'} = $fadeIn < 1 && $self->{'playingState'} ==
STOPPED && $prefs->client($self->master)->get('fadeInDuration');
foreach my $player (@{$self->{'players'}}) {
if ($self->{'playingState'} == STOPPED) {
# Bug 10310: Make sure volume is synced if necessary
my $vol = ($prefs->client($player)->get('syncVolume'))
? $masterVol
: abs($prefs->client($player)->get("volume") ||
0);
$player->volume($vol);
# can't fade_volume here as we might not be playing yet
so ramp-up would be lost
$player->volume(0,1) if $self->{'fadeActive'};
}
I changed that a while ago to make sure we use the volume of the a
proper player (one that is supposed to propagate sync and sync master
might not) but maybe in addition we should check that the selected
player has not fixed volume. Although, that's really a user's fault IMHO
LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch,
1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha
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Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
mark wollschlager wrote: > Is the base ESP32 the same? Just curious, the one I have is weak in the > wifi department ( within 5m of the access point ). It rarely has better > than 80% signal strength according to LMS. Yes it has always been my base for developing squeezeesp32 software LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
Julf wrote: > I would be interested in 2, but is shipping from Canada? I am in the > Netherlands... Yes, shipping can be done anywhere, its always around 10USD LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My Squeezebox Classic
notechyet wrote: > Thanks@bpa > I have checked the cable, which has been in place for a couple of years > and it did not work. > Tried another one and the cable works as I tested though no sign of the > unit showing any twinkle of live. By the way, I know why it felt warm > the other day. It was on top of another warm item. > I have read your links below and I need to re-read. I prefer to not > getting into the box as I'm not good enough on the electronics. > As I'm down-under the options of finding parts are not looking promising > though I will give a try. I have a few fixed classic that I offer in exchange of the broken one LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116077 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New modified SqueezeAMP batch?
Dear all - Ive made a small modification to SqueezeAMP to add IR w/o modifying size. So never say never, if there are about 30 people , friends, or « distributors », Im ready to redo another batch. It will have the nice casing made by @chill with cable goodies. I dont know how components coat has evolved, but Ill try to maintain it at 65. If nobody wants battery/chargeur, I can reduce that probably below 45 or even 40 (but that has to be nobody). As always, it is at cost. Let me know [image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220308/127cb12899978bb13a4df1a12c4f4b1e.jpg] LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116084 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos-Google lawsuit
po...@lns.com wrote: > If there is Prior Art that shows that someone came up with the idea > before Sonos registered for the patent, the patent would not be > considered novel and therefore not valid. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art > > Keep in mind, folks are awarded patents all the time where there is > prior art. Patent reviewers typically can't find every nook and cranny > to determine if a patent should be awarded. > > Slim devices was sold in late 2006, so it would have been good for Slim > Devices to have challenged this particularly if there was question about > > a patent by a competitor that could affect the value of the company when > > selling it to Logitech. > > Tim > > On 1/10/22 11:12 AM, chicks wrote: > > > > ftlight wrote: > >> I posted a link to the patent earlier in this thread: > >> https://patents.google.com/patent/US8588949B2/en > >> > >> Slim Devices clearly had sold products with this facility earlier > than > >> even the June 2003 priority date claimed by Sonos in the 2013 patent > >> above that is the basis of their claims against Google. > > > > If they didn't patent it, though (and I can't find anything assigned > to > > Logitech that indicates they did), it's a moot point. > > > > > > > > piTouch⢠w/JustBoom DigiHat -> RME ADI-2 DAC FS -> JBL 305P MkII > > monitors; LMS 8.2 on piCorePlayer/Pi 4; Material Skin. > > > > > chicks's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71798 > > View this thread: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115721 > > > > > > You would be amazed by the number of times where there is prior art and still you will not get patent invalidated because of what I mentioned previously, peculiar wording. Its all about wording, and not « common sense » at all. Getting something out of inter partes review is hopeless. And ultimately, in the US its jury trial and quite often in Marshall, Texas - good luck there :) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos-Google lawsuit
chicks wrote: > If they didn't patent it, though (and I can't find anything assigned to > Logitech that indicates they did), it's a moot point. > > If they DID patent it, why haven't they sued SONOS, Google, etc? Because every time you do that you have an enormous risk of backfire up to a point you wish you did not start that nuclear war. In addition, patents are not about the "big idea" most of the time but about ridiculously tiny details of wording of the context of use. It's not the land of educated engineers, but the realm of peculiar grammarians LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sonos-Google lawsuit
Sad example of misuse of patents original intent. At the end, only lawyers get richer but hey, thats fine, just dont look up LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Choppy playback on certain FLAC tracks to Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox2)
StewLG wrote:
> The docs in convert.conf are confusing. Here it says specifically that I
> can't be very specific, I just have to say "squeezebox":
>
> >
Code:
> >
> # : currently slimp3, squeezebox, or *.
> # The * is a wildcard that matches all device
> # types.
>
> >
>
> but above it suggests there are more types:
>
> >
Code:
> >
> # : Destination music format: Generally mp3, or
> # possibly aif or others depending on the types
> # your player supports. SliMP3 supports only
> # MP3. Squeezebox currently supports mp3, aif
> # and pcm. Squeezebox2 adds support for Flac and WMA.
>
> >
>
> I've been digging around in the code for a bit, and it seems like this
> might come from model { }, so can I say "squeezebox2" for my two
> problematic players?
>
> Is the full list of possible entries something like this:
>
> slimp3
> receiver
> Squeezebox
> squeezebox2
> squeezebox3
> squeezeplay
> squeezeslave
> transporter
> boom
> softsqueeze
> controller
> baby (Squeezebox radio)
> fab4 (Squeezebox touch)
Yes, the exact list can be found bys earching for "sub model( in the
code) but I think squeezebox/boom/receiver is what you are looking for
AFAIR
LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch,
1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha
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Re: [slim] Choppy playback on certain FLAC tracks to Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox2)
StewLG wrote:
> Ah, ok. Thank you.
>
> So I lifted that transcode entry, and just stuck it in
> custom-convert.conf:
>
> >
Code:
> >
> root@waffle:/etc/squeezeboxserver# cat custom-convert.conf
> flc flc * *
> # IFT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}E:{NOSTART=I}
> [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ --force-raw-format --sign=signed --endian=little
-- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t raw --encoding signed-integer -b $SAMPLESIZE$ -r
$SAMPLERATE$ -c $CHANNELS$ -L - -t flac $RESAMPLE$ -C 0 -
>
> >
>
One thing you can do is limit that to the players / models you really
need it for
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1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW,
2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha
WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3
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Re: [slim] Choppy playback on certain FLAC tracks to Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox2)
I checked the code to help my fading memory :) and the option to force flac to flac transcoding is at the discretion of plugins. We did that with Michael and it is enabled (and only for Boom/SB3/Duet) with streaming services like Tidal where user has no choice of how the file was encoded. The idea is that a problematic local file should be re-encoded by the user, instead of penalizing all systems with a transcode process (at the end, users don't lose anything my moving to a lower flac compression ration, the difference is small). LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115583 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Choppy playback on certain FLAC tracks to Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox2)
I would need to look at the code when we added that but Im sure there is a forced flac to flac re-encoding for SB exactly for that compression level. Michael, you might have a better memory than me? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115583 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Choppy playback on certain FLAC tracks to Squeezebox Classic (squeezebox2)
There was a fix sometime ago where we enforce transcoding on flac for classic for that reason, AFAIR. What version do LMS and convet.conf do you have. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115583 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Powernode 2i with Squeezebox
Apesbrain wrote: > I don't think that BluOS supports DLNA/UPnP. Powernode 2i has both > analog and optical inputs so you could connect your SB that way. Pretty > sure you'd need LMS with Spotify plugin to be running somewhere on your > network to do what you've described. It as AirPlay 2, so I guess it supports AirPlay 1 as well and you can use my AirPlay bridge then. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115415 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squezzebox Classic V3 Switch off and reboot mid song...again
Smiler33 wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I may try this on my old one first. Thanks, Smiler33 wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I may try this on my old one first. Thanks, If you are in EU, @JoeMuc2009 can replace the capacitors LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 5g wifi speakers? sick of 2g squeezebox issues but still want to continue using LMS..
You can also use some pi4 or clones (I think the radxa zero is 5GHz as well) or at least use some squeezelite-esp32 based device to use 802.11n which is still 2.4 but still much better. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115333 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Left and Right Balance Control Without a Preamp
slartibartfast wrote: > It doesn"t look like it. There is no balance setting for Chromecast or > UPNP players. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk You could only have balance in "transcoding" mode so I've disabled it for simplification LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Outside speakers wireless fed by lms and sync possible?
lssartin wrote: > I remodeled and did not wire speakers to my outside patio. My booms (2) > work great unless I move them, the power supplies require a jiggle > for 10 minutes to come alive and stay good unless moved or vibrated. I > prefer put up some wireless outdoor speakers powered by an outlet and > have an extra duet receiver I could feed them with, however, no home > theater receiver for that area. I do have a quality ht receiver close > by but no speaker wired to the patio. My perfect setup would be have > some speakers outside to sync to the main room adjoining patio but no > speaker wires are present and difficult to impossible to get to the > right place. I have a modern receiver with bluetooth/airplay. I have > synced bluetooth to Ipeng on a Ipad to a bluetooth speaker on the patio > with success and the sync is almost right, the sound quality suffers. > > > I ask if anyone has some thought on getting powered wireless speakers > onto my lms to sync with my inside speakers? I am stumped, bluetooth is > working but not quite perfect, curious if anyone has a solution. I wish > I had sent speaker cables from inside to outside, problem solved but > stupid me did not. Thinking this is good place for suggestions. > > Thanks for any responses peeps. I have probably misunderstood your objective, especially the " I prefer put up some wireless outdoor speakers powered by an outlet and have an extra duet receiver I could feed them with, however, *no home theater receiver for that area*" But if this is just a wireless amplifier you need, too bad you did not ask before, you could have used one or two on my SqueezeAMPs https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111328-ANNOUNCE-the-SqueezeAMP-next-generation-squeezeboxen-amplifier-receiver :). Maybe Polyvection will build a built-in amplifier one day. Meanwhile, you can also buy some boards based on esp32. Of course a piZero with a Hat does the work with PcP. Now, you can also use an AirPlay enabled speakers and use my AirPlay bridge. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115126 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic V3 dead?
pablolie wrote: > Amen. > > Today my bedroom Squeezebox Boom seemed to fail. Switched power supply. > Works like a charm. To me it has always been the darn power supplies. I > wonder how many people have assumed their squeezeboxen are "dead" and > acted drastically, when in fact it was just a failing power supply. It happened to me yesterday on a duet. It was an original Logitech power supply and its trie that Ive replaced many of these over time. The most robust from far seems to be the Boom 12V LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115078 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Testers wanted
slartibartfast wrote: > My Radio doesn't convert it to FLAC but the upnp mpd player does. Maybe > I need to add another native format in the upnp/dnla plugin. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Yes, the codec is 'ogf' and that let the player unwrap flac from an Ogg container LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115087 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Testers wanted
slartibartfast wrote: > I wonder why yours refers to OGF Radio and mine OGG Radio. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk There is a lot of confusion in naming Ogg, Vorbis and friends. Normally, Ogg is a container and Vorbis is a codec. So you can put Vorbis in Ogg or Flac or Opus. Unfortunately, most of the time people name things "ogg" and think it is vorbis inside. So Ogg radio is correct, and obviously you have flac in it, to it's ogf. Even the mimetype is confusing as "audio/ogg" is vorbis in ogg but to specific other formats it's "audio/ogg codec=flac" or "audio/ogg codec=opus". Not great LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115087 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
justwords wrote: > I also have a slimp3 (first one from 2000 or 2001). As I read that LMS > 8.2.1 supports slimp3 again, I connected it to my system. The displays > shows playback, but there is no sound. Some have suggested a new pus. > What is this? I originally had some Sony remote that came with it, might > there be some special settings? With lms i cannot find anything special If it says it plays but there is no sound its unlikely a power supply issue, but rather a problem with connection to amplifier or a non updated LMS version (I left an issue with the first 8.2 release that should be corrected now in nightly 8.2.1) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Some SqueezeAMP remaining.
Hi - I still have about 10 SqueezeAMP left. Let me know :) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114678 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Use LMS to "bridge" google cast to DLNA
typhoe wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible for LMS to be used to allow a DLNA player to receive a > stream using google cast protocol? > > Ex: > + I use an app that only allow to stream to google cast compatible > devices > + I have a device with only DLNA renderer capabilities > > What I would like to do: > Random app or device allowing only to stream to google cast compatible > devices > -> > LMS (used to present our DLNA player as able to receive the googlecast > stream) > -> > DLNA renderer device > > So far, I can use LMS to play to my DLNA device (using UPNP/DLNA bridge) > but don't know how (or if it's really possible) to present LMS as a > google cast compatible device? > > Thank you! It is not possible due to the way CC device work. Basically, a "receiver'" application (JS/HTML), signed by Google, must be loaded inside the CC and then is ran from there. This is typically the way 3rd parties secure their content delivery. For example, Netflix would have their own auth (and more) verified and authenticated app loaded inside your CC and that's what communicates with their servers to grab the content. Spotify probably does the same. There is a "default receiver" that you can load and I'm using in CastBridge but if you create a CC emulator, all you'd be able to emulate is that default receiver and that's not much. As soon as you're being asked to load the Spotify application (for example), this would fail. So that's mostly a dead end and this is the reason why I've never tried to do that LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115039 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Security risks of old Squeezeboxes(?)
philchillbill wrote: > But dont forget that the Chinese baby monitor or IP cam you > bought and connected up on your LAN is constantly phoning home to pick > up potential malware. The attacker doesnt have to target your > home specifically. Targeting the manufacturers website is a > single point of attention for a hacker. If successful, the millions of > IOT devices phoning home will pick up the malware with no need for a > targeted attack on anybody specific. The Chinese use off the shelf IOT > stacks they dont necessarily understand too well and many of > those are riddled with vulnerabilities. All my untrusted devices run on a separated WiFi network that has its own public IP (my ISP allows me to have two) because I agree with you, all these gadgets are, intentionally or not, security disasters. Re SB, one other thing is that you're stuck to older WPA and your WiFi is subject to KRACK or similar attacks vectors. One option is to run your SB system in the same "dirty pool" as your other gadgets. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115017 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hardware volume control
Frapicore wrote: > At the moment LMS is controlling the volume digitally. Is it possible to > control the hardware volume instead? When I put 80% of volume I would > like to control the ALSA volume (hardware volume of my dac) instead than > the digital one. I cannot find the way to do it in pCP, but I think it > should be possible as it is possible with other player. > > Thanks!! bpa wrote: > What do you mean "controlling the volume digitally". LMS sends the > volume level to the player and the player works out how to get the > volume. > > Looking at the squeezelite code - it seem volume control for squeezelite > is via ALSA amixer (i.e volume control is done via ALSA not within LMS) > . > > Check using logging output set to DEBUG Yes, when there is a volume mixer, squeezelite uses it, otherwise it applies soft gain LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114827 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Reinstalling LMS: How to keep preferences?
ModelCitizen wrote: > I've had various attempts with Squeezeserver and linux over the last two > decades, none of them successful and all of which took up shed loads of > my time. So I'm not going there. > Next step for me is likely to be with be Polyvector's DAC32 Gateway (and > yes, I know it's Linux), when the price for 1tb SD cards comes down > > Anyway. I tried so it by just copying over server.prefs and the > castbridge and upnpbridge config files but it wasn't successful and led > to a bit of a mess. Copying over the whole of C:\Program Data\Squeezebox > was though and now I'm good to go. > > Thanks. What I always do is copying the prefs directory with a bit of tweaks on server.prefs LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114786 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox Classic (SB3) power supply problem
Otherwise, I'd set a 5V power supply with current limit at 0.25A max. Connect it (it will drop of course). Then (when off) remove the WiFi board. Retry, if Vcc drop is less, try limit Icc a bit less. Remove the CPU board (ground yourself), and do the same. If Vcc still drops at 0.5A+, start removing some capacitors (twist and turn), with the ones closed to the plug (a few 220uF), continue till you find the short. Use a good regulated current-limited supply. When Vcc drop stops, you have found the short. Ask Joe, myself for a repair or eBay for spare parts. Good Luck! LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox Classic (SB3) power supply problem
jjdk wrote: > Hello. > > I have a Classic, that is dead - uses 2 amps... > > Not short circut - not possible to figure what uses all the power, so I > need some help. > Anyone have the schematics for the power supply part of the SqueezeBox > Classic (SB3) > > Have to figure what part og the power supply uses all the power to be > able to repair it. > > Sure, I can just start with changing all the capaitors, but I want to be > sure it works after that... There is no schematic. Best is you contact Joe here in this forum, but you can never be sure of the result of a repair LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Some SqueezeAMP remaining.
I have shipped all current requested SqueezeAMPs and I have about 20 basic and 10 boost left. Anybody interested please let me know. I'm taking the liberty to post on the general thread forum to maximize reach. You can find the details of SqueezeAMP here: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111328-ANNOUNCE-the-SqueezeAMP-next-generation-squeezeboxen-amplifier-receiver. As said there, it can be used out of the box, no need to tinker with wires, do soldering or have a special download kit. Of course, you can extend it a lot, but's up to you. I'll ship a box and an amp, all you need to do is put the box together. It's 65USD + ~10USD for shipment and this is a non-profit project. I dont make any gain of any kind. My time, equipment and all sort of things are not counted. This is really a rounding of the material+shipment+taxes cost. I'd like to sell them all to not lose too much money :) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114678 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New Logitech Squeezebox 2020 Edition
dolodobendan wrote: > The installation process isn't much fun, true. The same goes for the > AirPlay bridge (that's the one I use). But once set up, it works really > well. I wrote myself a step-by-step installation guide for LMS which I > now just follow blindly. Here's the AirPlay part (for AirPlay, I think > it looks pretty much the same for UPnP): > > AirPlay Bridge: > > > 1. Select Binary: ~static > 2. Apply > 3. Configuration file: Generate > 4. Wait > 5. [Common Parameters] - Select player: Player information: Choose > name > 6. Network interface: Use LMS' network interface > 7. Apply > 8. Start the Bridge > 9. Apply > > You might have to delete upnpbridge.xml and upnpbridge.prefs > (/SlimServer/ and /SlimServer/prefs) and restart LMS before trying this > (That's if you want to try this AGAIN, which you probably and > understandably don't want to.) I think Ill remove the generate option because its an optional step but everybody seems to think its mandatory. All you need to do is select the helper and start. Other steps are tweaks LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111449 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of codecs in LMS
w3wilkes wrote: > A little off topic, but I think higher bitrate mp3 is quite good and > shouldn't be discounted so quickly. About 8 years ago @archimage (a user > here) did some double blind testing of FLAC vs higher bitrate mp3 and > the outcome of that test can be found here; > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98010-RESULTS-Blind-Test-MP3-vs-Lossless-out-now > I think several of the players in this challenge are members on these > boards. > > I thought Archimago laid things out fairly well for this challenge > > Initial Survey - > http://archimago.blogspot.com/2012/12/high-bit-rate-mp3-survey-is-up.html > Preamble - http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/01/ > Part 1 - > http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/02/high-bitrate-mp3-internet-blind-test.html > Part 2 - > http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/02/high-bitrate-mp3-internet-blind-test_3422.html > Part 3 - > http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/02/high-bitrate-mp3-internet-blind-test_2.html > Part 4 - > http://archimago.blogspot.com/2013/02/high-bitrate-internet-blind-test-part-4.html Yes you are correct, 320kbp mp3 is pretty good. Its just the opus gives you more for half :) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of codecs in LMS
mherger wrote: > >> It would seem to me that any lossy codec chosen for "focus" should > be > >> natively supported by existing Squeezebox hardware and Squeezelite. > > > > No for SB, yes for Squeezelite. No for SB because we want to "look > > forward" and we can't if we limit to existing codecs 10 years ago, so > > support will be by transcoding. > > I'm sorry to say, but I still don't understand what challenge you're > trying to address... what is the purpose of this initiative? Why would > we want to change what we stream to the players? Is this for the > transcoding case only? zordaz wrote: > I am confused now. Imho transcoding within LMS from lossy to lossy is > only suitable for specific use cases and not something to implement as a > possible default for 'legacy codecs'. When transcoding legacy codecs is > needed it should be to a lossless format. > > So I think Michael Herger has a point: the purpose of this initiative / > this thread needs more clarification. I'm not changing anything and there is no urgency of any kind. I have no intention (and not in charge anyway) or removing support of codecs in LMS. Now, as somebody who had to port many codecs to a new type of hardware (esp32), I can tell it was painful (and still is). So I was wondering, for example: if I had to create a brand new device and I would have to chose only one lossless and one (or two) lossy, which ones would I take? This would mean that LMS would have to be very good at transcoding from anything to one of these codecs, including accepting various inputs like stdin, url, file and doing resampling, sample scaling, seeking and then spitting out the right format with the proper headers (I've done that as well and it's easier said than done when you include all these requirements). So is this a better option to let players deal with the variety of codecs or is this better to reduce their scope and force LMS to do all the proxying/transcoding work. Maybe we should have dedicated helpers for doing that job. That question, as said in 1st post, was also triggered by the request or creating a lossless ./stream.xxx URL because today we only have mp3. Lossless was flac but then I thought what about adding another lossy b/c mp3 is not the best quality, has still IPR potential issues, and is a format of the past. So what should we chose then? Now this post is just to start a conversation about long-term directions, nothing more really. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of codecs in LMS
coyrls wrote: > It would seem to me that any lossy codec chosen for "focus" should be > natively supported by existing Squeezebox hardware and Squeezelite. No for SB, yes for Squeezelite. No for SB because we want to "look forward" and we can't if we limit to existing codecs 10 years ago, so support will be by transcoding. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Future of codecs in LMS
bpa wrote: > what is the "http capable client" that you will be using that make opus > preferable over say flac ? The vague terme I used for htttp client was just an example which is not really the main question. I just meant that if a codec is our focused one, then for example we would have a /stream.xxx url available as we have today /stream.mp3, but it was a minor illustration LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Future of codecs in LMS
I've been working for a while to try to improve codecs support in LMS and recently @philchillbill asked for the possibility to have a /stream.flac instead of /stream.mp3 so that one can stream lossless to any HTTP-capable client. I've made a first version, not yet complete but I was wondering at that occasion about the direction of codecs support in LMS. I'm talking about where to put *focus* not about removing support for others. Focus means where we make thinks extra seamless, or for example we have rules to transforme *everything* into the focused codecs, no matter what is the source. Please, if you want to discuss about CPU usage influence on SQ or that bits are not bits, refrain from answering that post, this would be wasting everybody's time Obviously, we can separate the question in two; lossless and lossy. Let's try with the easy one, lossless. FLAC has a good compression ratio, a free & open implementation, reasonable CPU requirements and can handle 24 bits at "any" sample rate. It can be streamed as each block is independent, it can be put inside an Ogg container to have in-band metadata and is widely supported, so flac is the winner, no debate. Things are bit more complex for lossy, although I have a strong preference there and this is Opus. Opus is very good quality, excellent compression ratio, fixed output sample rate at 48kHz which is perfect. It also has a free and open source implementation, reasonable CPU requirements and (big plus), can be streamed inside an Ogg container as flac. There is one thing I don't like about it is that (AFAIK) it is not streamable independently (in blocks), as mp3/flac are. It needs a header to be added at the beginning of every playback. Still, I think the future of lossy is opus, so that would be my preference. I did not mention that before, but mp3 is a dead dish, IMHO. Now, maybe here we need a second player and I was thinking of aac as a necessary evil. It has the benefit of being streamable in ADTS frames and seems to be adopted a lot (YT content is always a good indicator). Now, I don't like it; it is not free, it consumes a lot of CPU, there is no good open implementation. I know there is faad2, but it it so CPU & stack expensive that I gave up trying to port it on squeezelite-esp32. I also don't like aac for the other encapsulation method which is mp4 I personally dislike a lot mp4 as it is cumbersome, designed by a committee (a camel) where people doing the spec were obviously on the side of the source, not destination. As the result, they had fun with lot of permutations and combinations to do the a lot/the same things (it' s like dash/mpd IMHO) as the source can always decide what it likes where the poor destination, which is usually the most resource limited has to support every option! So, I'm a bit hesitant on lossy, is this opus only or opus + aac, aac being the unpleasant uncle at family dinners. It's all about choices, so thoughts? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2 keeps disconnecting
VFRBOB wrote: > Well thanks very much I have ordered the 25 capacitors from Digi-Key in > Canada for the grand total of $25.00. There are some out parts out of > stock so it may be a while before I get them, I noticed that the ones > listed did not include the much larger capacitors I can see on the > board. > > Regards > > Steve Ive never these larger ones fail so far LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] disable volume change during pause/resume?
philippe_44 wrote: > It's an issue I've left in the bridge For UPnP, try dev version 1.49.14-dev3 LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114454 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] disable volume change during pause/resume?
wildgoose wrote: > I am running LMS 8.1.1 on PCP 7.01. The playback is simply a flac > playlist to the players. > > Yes issue is readily reproducible on a few of my players. > > - SqueezePad (iPad) > > Before I discovered Material skin, I was using this to playback on the > ipad. > > > > - start playback - change volume to comfortable level using squeezepad (When > adjusting volume, I see both the squeezepad's popup (number), as > well as iPad's build-in volume indicator change) - pause. I see ipad volume indicator drops to 0, then back to 1 > tick. however, SqueezePad volume bar remains unchanged (bug). - resume. playback starts at very low level, after a few sec, I see > SqueezePad volume bar drops (to reflect correct actual level). - at this point, I have to manually adjust volume to desired level. > > > > > At the time this looked like a bug on SqueezePad. > > After discovering Material Skin, I was like a kid who discovered Lego. > Been trying various device (computer, phone, etc), as well as the UPnP > / AirPlay plugins to see what I've been missing in the last few years. > > - UPnP Bridge on Yamaha receiver. > > In UPnP/DLNA bridge setting in Advanced, under "Player volume > management", for "LMS Volume changes": set to "ignore all changes". > > > > - start playback - pause. I see volume drops back to -76 (sometimes it shows mute, > sometime it shows -75) - resume. no change to volume, remains at very low level. (this is > correct based on my settings, but *why volume drop on pause?* who's > doing it?) > > > > > The problem looks exactly like the SqueezePad case, hence I thought > maybe this is something LMS itself is doing (rather than each player). > > The issue is on the "Pause". Who is dropping the volume to 0? (or > tries to, sometimes receiver shows MUTE, sometimes receiver shows very > close to 0, but not 0). > > Edit: when I set "LMS volume changes" to "only when playing" in UPNP > Bridge setting, it does restore the volume to what it was before (few > times I tried just now). But the volume transition happens too fast > and sounds very harsh. It would've been much better if the volume is > not messed with at all when pause/resume. It's an issue I've left in the bridge LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114454 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] disable volume change during pause/resume?
What players do you have? LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114454 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In ceiling setup with squeezeamp
ericj wrote: > But I think my major question also involves how to power the squeezeamp? > How can one get the 120 VAC power to the 12 or 16 volt DC needed? > > Thanks for the thoughts. I'm not sure I fully understand. The SqueezeAMP can take anything from 5V (not recommended) to 20V, ideally 12V. You can run this supply using normal cables, as you said you're not looking for an audiophile-type system (which is not SqueezeAMP anyway). Now, I would rather run the speaker cables to a cabinet, but that's really up to you. If the SqueezeAMP is "hidden", put it in a box like the acrylic one, it's better for heat & safety. But it should still remain accessible with reasonable efforts. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Free to a good home: SB3 with bad left analog channel
I'll take it and fix it for others LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114326 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB1 and 24bit flacs, how to configure LMS to downsample to 16-bit?
wildgoose wrote:
> I am trying to play a 24bit flac file on my squeezebox v1.
>
> When I stream regular 16bit 44.1k flac to my sb1 (which plays it
> perfectly fine), PiCorePlayer (htop) shows a flac decoding process, so
> likely the sb1 does not have native flac capability, so LMS decodes and
> sends it the PCM/wav file. When a 24bit flac is played, I only hear
> hiss. So the sb1 cannot handle 24bit PCM audio.
>
> I want to down sample all 24bit flac -> 16bit flac @ 44.1Khz.
>
> The custom-convert.conf I tried are
>
> >
Code:
> >
> #flc pcm * [SB1-MAC]
> # # IFD:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
> # [sox] -q -t flac $FILE$ -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
>
> flc pcm * [SB1-MAC]
> # IFT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v}D:{RESAMPLE=-r %d}
> [flac] -dcs --totally-silent $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav
- -t wav -b 16 -r 44100 -
>
> >
>
> Neither block works. I don't see 'sox' process being kicked off on the
> LMS server. Only the default flac decoding process being kicked off:
>
> /USR/LOCAL/SLIMSERVER/BIN/ARMHF-LINUX/FLAC -DCS --FORCE-RAW-FORMAT
> --ENDIAN=BIG --SIGN=SIGNED -- -
>
> Note this one does not have --totally-silent as I had above. So it is
> somehow still using the default settings in convert.conf.
>
> Yes I do see the new entry in Settings / Advanced / File Types, so the
> rule is being read.
>
>
>
> I did verify on the command line (on the PCP server) that the sox
> command does transcode the 24bit flac file to a 16/44.1 wav file. So
> in theory the sox and sox command alone should be enough. I don't need
> to have flac decode the stream as WAV to stdout, and pipe it to sox.
>
> But I also tried using both flac/sox, as above. Also didn't work.
>
> Just not sure why it did not do what the file says it need to do.
> Nothing interesting in LMS log either. How do I debug this further or
> enable more logging?
You should really attach here your full convert.conf and
custom-convert.conf. Then after that set "player.source" logging to
debug, it will be very verbose but will give us a good idea. I modified
a lot the transcoding rules in LMS 8+ and I probably have left issues.
LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet,
1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000,
ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi,
Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3
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Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
d6jg wrote: > I do agree that 192 is out of human hearing range so its a moot point. > > Do you think the spec reported on the PolyVection website is misleading, > I do? I think it's fine as it says clearly that resampling is done, so IMHO it does not really matter where it happens. It's unambiguous that the actual audio is not played at 192kHz LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
philippe_44 wrote: > In 16 bits mode, squeezelite-esp32 supports 192/24 but samples are > truncated to 16. Ive never tested extensively but I think flac and pcm > work although the cpu really suffers. > > In 32 bits mode, which I added recently, Ive not tried 192/24 but in > their fork, PolyVection has probably limited the supported rates to 96 > and this is likely wise. I will try later today what happens with > 192/24 > > So, 192/24 in DAC32 as of today AFAIK means downsample in LMS to 96/24 > which is only puncturing. > > Last comment b/c I cant help it :) but 192 is useless (I wont say > anything on 24) so you losing nothing anyway. I hesitated to leave it in > squeezelite-esp32 but I did for the fun of testing the limit of the cpu. Just did the test, I can confirm that 24/192 does not fly in 32 bits mode. I'll remove it in next release LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming 24bit 192Khz files
d6jg wrote: > I do think it might be worth asking again as the specs very clearly > imply client side downsampling and PolyVections answer to my question > was by Bob. He might be wrong and the specs are right. In 16 bits mode, squeezelite-esp32 supports 192/24 but samples are truncated to 16. Ive never tested extensively but I think flac and pcm work although the cpu really suffers. In 32 bits mode, which I added recently, Ive not tried 192/24 but in their fork, PolyVection has probably limited the supported rates to 96 and this is likely wise. I will try later today what happens with 192/24 So, 192/24 in DAC32 as of today AFAIK means downsample in LMS to 96/24 which is only puncturing. Last comment b/c I cant help it :) but 192 is useless (I wont say anything on 24) so you losing nothing anyway. I hesitated to leave it in squeezelite-esp32 but I did for the fun of testing the limit of the cpu. LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] possible to reverse L/R channels on a digital optical (TOSlink) connection?
aubuti wrote: > On second thought, feeding the analog inputs from the analog outputs > (and crossing L/R) probably wont work, because Im pretty sure both the > optical and analog inputs will be active. So the L speaker would get the > L channel from the optical and the R channel from the analog, and vice > versa for the R speaker. Ill double-check with the Audioengine folks, > but probably need to look at one of the other solutions. Can't remember if it was suggested before, but why not using sox with the swap option? LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] New batch of SqueezeAMP
Just wanted to use a bit the general forum to announce that the new batch of SqueezeAMP is now being shipped to me. You have the complete description in that thread https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111328-ANNOUNCE-the-SqueezeAMP-next-generation-squeezeboxen-amplifier-receiver. In a nutshell, SqueezeAMP has the following attributes - Runs a modified version of squeezelite, named squeezelite-esp32 that we have created with @sle118 - Build-in stereo class-D amplifier 2x20W - Analogue and SPDIF optical output - Battery or DC powered (5-20V) with battery charger (2 or 3 cells) - Can be used 'as is' but has many extension connectors if you want to tinker with it (display, rotary, IR, buttons) As a reminder squeezelite-esp32 now exists in 16 bits and 32 bits modes. In 16 bits, it supports sample rate up to 192kHz (recommended to limit to 96kHz though as SPDIF will be limited to 96kHz), resampling and equalizing. In 32 bits, maximum sampling rate is 96 kHz and SPDIF sample size is 20 bits. Resampling and equalizing are not available. All details of squeezelite-esp32 features are here https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112697-ANNOUNCE-Squeezelite-ESP32-(dedicated-thread) +---+ |Filename: IMG_5330.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33954| +---+ LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spontaneous volume reduction
d6jg wrote: > I asked about other players as I have seen it when using a upnp player > and switching back to a Pi UPnP players does not have the capability to change volume unless players have volume sync in which case it's normal LMS behavior when volume changes LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114230 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] possible to reverse L/R channels on a digital optical (TOSlink) connection?
aubuti wrote: > Maybe imaging isn't the best word here, but it would be playing the left > channel out of the speaker on the right and vice versa. I confess that > on much of my music I don't recall whether, for example, the lead > guitarist is stage-left and the rhythm guitarist or keyboardist is > stage-right. But on some of my best-loved recordings I do. > > These get flipped if I swap the speakers, because when using the optical > input the speaker with the amp will always play the left channel and the > passive speaker will always play the right channel. Back to your initial request, there is no provision for doing that in slimproto (the protocol between LMS and its players). You need to use a transcoder in LMS that will do the job or swapping channel (in other words you decode, swap, then re-encode on the server) or you replace the SB2 with a device (Pi or other) that has Optical and can do the swap locally by tweaking its output. I can do that easily in any squeezelite implementation if the sound driver (optical) does not let you do this, but it will e a custom version. LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] IMPORTANT: squeezelite / polarity inversion / balance
I left an issue in the new balance/combined channel options when used with polarity inversion for squeezelite that leads to volume being max'd when polarity is inverted. Please do not use polarity inversion with - squeezelite above 1364 - squeezeesp32 above 571 - DAC32 above 1.0.0 (I think) LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114171 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Favorite Internet Radio Station will No Longer Play on Logitech Media Server!
Matt Hooper wrote: > Thanks. > > I guess it's still a mystery as to why it won't work though. > > Unbelievable. Literally every radio station I can find works except the > single one I like to listen to! Try to disable certificate verification (settings/advanced/security) and it should work. That site seems to have an invalid certificate LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114121 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] possible to reverse L/R channels on a digital optical (TOSlink) connection?
RobbH wrote: > I am skeptical of that reasoning, but maybe that explains why this > option is available under audio settings. I could never understand why > anyone would want to invert polarity on both channels. There are > situations where inverting polarity on one channel might make sense, > because it's easier than redoing the wiring. Even LMS offers that ans squeezelite simply negates the gain value LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114112 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
slartibartfast wrote: > Will balance be maintained as volume is changed? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Yes, but per previous post the balance is a linear ratio between L & R while volume is a log evolution. I'll keep it like that LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
bpa wrote: > This may be a minefield. IIRC when developers were defining/modifiying > the curve - a lot of user feedback was that fine control at very low > volume was needed esp when listening at night/early morning typically in > bed. > When channels are not balanced then at some point in low volume one > channel will not be heard at all. Users will have to accept that or > else you'll have a complicated solution. ok, so I'll stay with the linear solution then LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
ralphy wrote: > Yes squeezeslave binaries and source are still available. However, in > the last 3 months it's only been downloaded 28 times and I've stopped > supported it, so I'd consider it obsolete. > > Softsqueeze, the java client, however is a bit more active at 1561 > downloads in the last 3 months and I've released one update in the last > 11 years. > > Does this even matter for the Balance feature? If the client doesn't > report the capability and they are not hardware players, the balance > code path shouldn't impact them? No, not really - Balance will not appear in the UI and I guess we can keep it like that LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
Ron F. wrote: > Philippe, your mistake is one that anybody could have made, anybody, > easy to do. It is NOT a big deal whatsoever! > > Things like this happen all the time. When you commit code, we are your > QA/Testing department, and we love to do it! > > I remember one of my "company name removed" stories, about somebody > driving a probe into the surface of Mars way too fast, due to a > trivial math error:) That blemish mankind left on Mars might be there > for millions of years. And now, I would like to introduce you to some > self-driving automobiles! If remember the Mars one at least they had the excuse of metric & imperial :) RobbH wrote: > Philippe, I don't want to make light of your distress. I sort of > understand, even though I'm not capable of doing the work you're doing > on LMS. I think you certainly should take a break, not as punishment, > but just to have an opportunity to take a few deep breaths and think > about things other than code for a while. > > But with all that, I'm still the sort of guy who can't resist a setup > like this, so I hope you'll at least get a smile out of it: > > > Code: > > Relax, man! It's just a mistake! No need to get all UNBALANCED about it! > > It worked :) Thanks guys LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
wt0 wrote: > I'm not saying that the ratio matters, 25 is fine. It's the values that > are being sent by the server do not increase or decrease in a linear > manner. They follow the progression of that list of numbers and there > are 101 values. So, for example, it you set the volume to 96, instead > of sending 65536 * 0.96 = 62914, it sends 52224. So when the player > receives the value, instead of just dividing the raw value by 65536 to > get the gain, it looks for the closest value in the array and uses the > index of the item as the gain. > > For you to implement it, it's very simple. Just take the gain adjustment > multiply it by 100 and use the value at that index on the list. So, for > example, if the balance is set to 5, you'll use your formula, (25-5)/25 > = 0.8 multiply by 100 to get 80. Then just take the value at index 80 > from the array, which is 20992 I'm probably thick again but then I don't think this is the right thing to do then. The 0..100 to 16 bits is not tabulated but interpolated using parameters that are defined by squeezebox2.pm or its descendants (e.g. squeezeplay.pm and boom.pm define it differently). So if I force tabulation, I'll void what other descendants might do. Also, in your example, 5 means only use (25-5)/25=80% of volume for Left and 100% for Right but does not mean 20992 should be sent as gainL. If I really want comply to the segmented volume curve, the balance ratio should be applied to the dB volume (0..100) and then the get_volume and dBToFixed applied individually (i.e. 5 means I apply 80% of the required (0..100) volume to Left and still 100% to Right). Now, I never paid too much attention to that domain of audio, but is a log balance the right thing to do? I though back in the old days of analogue, linear potentiometers were used because we want a finer sensitivity of the balance around the center. Which also reminded me that SqueezeSlave is doing its own volume method implementation... crap. Is this still in use today? LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
wt0 wrote: > I didn't realize you meant you made a mistake in the code. I just > thought you made a typo in the post. No and this is what is sad: I just code something stupid and happily wrote the same... wt0 wrote: > I just downloaded the latest LMS update, and the values look like they > are corrected. However, the gainL/gainR values are normally based on > the volume curve of the SB Boom so 0.96 gain is actually 52224 not > 62914. I guess I could detect for balance changes and calculate the > gain differently when that happens, but I think having it the balanced > values be consistent with the normal values would be nicer. > > In case you need it, here's the array I use for converting the values: > > Code: > > > 0, 16, 18, 22, 26, 31, 36, 43, 51, 61, 72, 85, 101, 120, 142, 168, 200, 237, 281, 333, 395, 468, 555, 658, 781, 926, 980, 1037, 1098, 1162, 1230, 1302, 1378, 1458, 1543, 1634, 1729, 1830, 1937, 2050, 2048, 2304, 2304, 2560, 2816, 2816, 3072, 3328, 3328, 3584, 3840, 4096, 4352, 4608, 4864, 5120, 5376, 5632, 6144, 6400, 6656, 7168, 7680, 7936, 8448, 8960, 9472, 9984, 10752, 11264, 12032, 12544, 13312, 14080, 14848, 15872, 16640, 17664, 18688, 19968, 20992, 22272, 23552, 24832, 26368, 27904, 29696, 31232, 33024, 35072, 37120, 39424, 41728, 44032, 46592, 49408, 52224, 55296, 58624, 61952, 65536 > > > > This was copied from the SqueezePlay code. I just went for the simplest (or stupidest) but I think this does not matter much. The span of 25 is very arbitrary anyway. Do you really think that having the same ratio whatever the volume is will produce such an unpleasant effect, i.e. balance will sound good at some volume but bad at others? wt0 wrote: > I have a Transporter. Balance is working. > Thx LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
wt0 wrote:
> Yes I'm sure, I'm logging the raw values that I'm getting from the
> server. With volume set to 100 and a balance setting of 1, gainL is
> 1572864 and gainR is 65536. I even used Wireshark to sniff the network
> packets just to be sure. Here's hex dump + ascii from the audg packet:
> >
Code:
> >
> 10 7b 44 68 cc 37 00 d8 61 d3 20 a2 08 00 45 00 .{Dh.7..a. ...E.
> 0010 00 44 a5 9c 00 00 80 06 00 00 c0 a8 14 72 c0 a8 .D...r..
> 0020 14 67 0d 9b e3 d8 5a fa 44 36 7d 3b 3e db 50 18 .gZ.D6};>.P.
> 0030 04 02 e0 3a 00 00 00 1a 61 75 64 67 00 00 0c 00 ...:audg
> 0040 00 00 00 80 01 ff 00 18 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00
> 0050 00 00 ..
>
> >
> The hex value for gainL is "00 18 00 00" which is 1572864.
>
> Am I just not interpreting the data correctly?
>
> I'm using LMS 8.2.0 - 1614413430
No you are reading data correctly - per my previous post, it was me
LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet,
1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000,
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Re: [slim] Balance
wt0 wrote: > I think the server side implementation of balance for SqueezePlay > players is broken. When I added "Balance=1" to SB Player's HELO string, > the balance slider shows up in Player -> Audio. However when I adjust > the slider, the gainL/gainR values SB Player gets for the channel that > should be lowered changes from a 16.16 fixed point value between 0 and > 1.0, to between 0 and 24. philippe_44 wrote: > Are you sure? I just traced that on my squeezelite-esp32 and the value > I'm receiving is the gainL multiplied by a ratio of (25-Balance)/Balance > (if balance is negative, negate it and apply that to gainR). Where are > you tracing the gainL and gainR values from? You were obviously right. It's either time for me to retire or go back to school at grade < 5 LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
mherger wrote: > > ok, I'll wait for somebody with a transporter and will do then > > I haven't been near my Transporter for months... it's in the office :-( I'll assume it works as the other ip3k, except the Boom (for understandable reasons). I've pushed an update that also correct my grade 5 calculation error :( LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
Ron F. wrote: > I possibly lack any understanding of what is going on here, so please > forgive if that is the case... > > I assume a balance shift to the right channel is done with a positive > balance number, and if that is true, it is being done by dropping the > volume on the left channel? If 25 is the limit, then the multiplication > ratio for gainL should be (25-Balance)/25 ??? Yes sorry - very tired these days LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
ralphy wrote: > Yes, based on our testing I'd agree with that approach. ok, I'll wait for somebody with a transporter and will do then LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 ---- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
wt0 wrote: > I'm not talking about what you see in the browser. I'm talking about > what the player actually receives from server. I'm trying to add > balance support to SB Player and noticed that when the balance is not > zero, the gain value of the "audg" command of one of the channels is no > longer a fixed point value between 0 and 1.0 (which is an integer value > between 0 and 65536). Instead it changes to a fixed point value between > 0 and 24 (integer value between 0 and 1572864) Are you sure? I just traced that on my squeezelite-esp32 and the value I'm receiving is the gainL multiplied by a ratio of (25-Balance)/Balance (if balance is negative, negate it and apply that to gainR). Where are you tracing the gainL and gainR values from? LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
ralphy wrote:
> That's great. To keep the jive based players consistant I won't include
> the Balance capability in the next community firmware release and let
> LMS handle it.
>
> I noticed that the SB Classic in not in the list. I just tested one of
> mine and balance works with it as well. I don't have a transporter to
> confirm.
>
> For anyone who has a transporter and is comfortable changing LMS source
> code.
>
> This temporary change will enable Balance for ALL players, even if they
> don't support it.
> >
Code:
> > diff --git a/Slim/Web/Settings/Player/Audio.pm
b/Slim/Web/Settings/Player/Audio.pm
> index b8c8cc0a3..3a200b2a7 100644
> --- a/Slim/Web/Settings/Player/Audio.pm
> +++ b/Slim/Web/Settings/Player/Audio.pm
> @@ -111,9 +111,9 @@ sub prefs {
> push @prefs, 'outputChannels';
> }
>
> - if ($client->hasBalance()) {
> +# if ($client->hasBalance()) {
> push @prefs, 'balance';
> - }
> +# }
>
> return ($prefs->client($client), @prefs);
> }
>
> >
So it might be that the only ip3k for which it does not work is the Boom
then, right? I should make it a negative logic in that case
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Re: [slim] Balance
ralphy wrote: > That's probably a good option as that would remove the need to create a > patch installer package to enable it on a Touch with stock firmware. Good, so per my previous message, I have a PR ready for - duet (model:receiver) => balance - controller (model:controller) => balance - touch (model:fab4) => balance - radio (model:baby) => balance (works with headsets) - other squeezeplay : if capabilities include "Balance=1" => balance LMS 8.1.x on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 -------- philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
Duet has balance, so I need to detect model and apply as balance
accordingly. Can somebody edit Slim/Player/Client.pm and change
hasBalance{0} by hasBalance{1} to try with a transporter?
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1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000,
ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi,
Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3
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